October 7, 2025 • 38 mins
To wrap up the last hour, the guys discuss the likelihood of Justin Tucker finishing off his suspension and coming back to a desperate team + FOX Sports Rules Analyst Dean Blandino joins the show and talks through some questionable plays around the league over the weekend + the Leftovers!
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clarification we have the the remaining bit on the I
would love.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, that's it. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So just for the new audience, we had a debate
yesterday about.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I didn't have a debate.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, there's just you know, a discussion about de Mercado.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Dropping the ball. Yeah, yeah, we're having a discussion with
there's no debate, he said, bait.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So we were kind of kicking the kicking it around, like, hey,
why just keep happening? What's the appeal here? It sounds
no good?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Got? Got? Got?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I asked a general question, would a why guy and
not understand a guy dropping the ball early before going
into the endzo I like it was a fair legitimate
question from him.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
In my defense, I asked it initially to everyone. It's
a general question, which is okay to say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's okay for you to say what you meant. Going back,
what's doing it. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
I'm just saying the truth shells you free.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
And it sucks because there's probably something out there in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I haven't seen it from a white dude. Yeah, because
there's because they just don't score as much as US.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I don't know. I mean, there's not as many opportunities
for for it.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
We've got McCaffrey, but ye do he holds that thing
high and tight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I got quarterbacks like you know. I mean, Trevor Lawrence
got in last night. He had to hold on to
it though you know it was you know.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Well, again it goes back to the separation.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
There's not really a Patrick Mahomes got in last night
too for y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Then y'all take Patrick Mahomes and we took Babrye fer trade.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah all right. So I don't know, man, you keep
living in the past.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
I just glad that that Q could free himself from
the bondage of not wanting to be all the way
truthful with what it was that he was insinuating. You know,
that's that was what was more important to me to
pull away from that. Those audio clips and I'm just
glad you agreed.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean, it wasn't a hat. It wasn't. I mean,
it was not a hard.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
One to debate. That's why I wasn't a debate. You
just needed to stand on your business.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's all. Stand on it.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
That's right, you put it out there, Just stand on it.
I don't as maybe because I'm a white guy, I
just don't understand it. And you know what, I don't
understand it as a black guy. But for some strange reason,
it has been my brother and that have made the mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean that I'm saying. You know who's probably.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Thrilled about the whole thing, though, Adie Mitchell, because he's like, man,
nobody's talking about me anymore, talking about this one. And
this one played out worse because he had Jonathan Gannon
assaulting the guy.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
On the sideline. He couldn't handle. He melted down over that.
It was such a close moment, too so close, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I was trying to explain, like we really probably
didn't get a chance in the broadcast. But you know,
Shane stiching with Adie Mitchell, he wouldn't have dressed this
past week if not for the Alec Pierce injury, but
they legitimately needed the bodies and talk with him about it.
He said, look, he goes, he made a mistake. His
young players got all the town.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In the world.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
He goes, He'll be fine, he goes, but he was
I have to hold everyone accountable. He's like, we have standards, right,
he goes, So if people in the locker room or
players in the locker room see that, he's not going
to face any consequences for that. When all the guys
are looking around saying, we should have won that game.
The colt should be five and zero, they should be
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undefeated right now, and he's like, if I don't hold
him accountable, what message does that send to the veterans?
What messages that send to all the other guys in
the locker room. I'm like, it's a valid point, and
so that's probably what you will expect out of Jonathan Gannon.
He's apologetic is how he acted in the moment. But
I mean, we'll see what Lesson, you know, is taught.
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Because they've got they're banged up in running back. I mean,
they need the mercado at running back. So we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It's gonna happen again. Though, it is a hell of
a run.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But yeah, I mean maybe that got maybe that got
a race about the conclusion of it, but a hell
of a run. You know, should have been a touchdown,
should have been you know, six added to it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But it happens. You do make, people make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
You live and you learn, and you just hope that
in those mistakes that you make, you don't cost yourself
or cost your team.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Who would have had the Colts and the Jags best
records in the NFL at this point in the year,
and this was the same division that LeVar refused to
pick last year because he was so disinterested.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Is it great for football? Oh? Probably not. It's why
it's not bad for football.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I mean, like I said last last hour, the way
college is playing out and the way teams are losing
and winning, it makes it to me, it makes it
more entertaining, like like, let's get out of the norm,
Like I expect this, this happens, like, Okay, you go
through the whole routine of it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, here we go, yep, saying.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You had the better games by far.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Absolutely, But I will say no, I wouldn't expect the
Jacksonville Jaguars to be this good. I would not have
expected the Indianapolis Colts with a Daniel Jones to be
this good.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's a great storyline.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
And Jacksonville is not a great market for a football team,
and yet it's a which probably one of the best
stories in the National Football League right now. So and
I mean the Colts, I think that's a great story too,
because you again, two years in a row, is somebody
else's trash, is somebody else's treasure from the same team
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that can't win.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
How you get rid of one.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Guy that could have helped your team when they go
win the Super Bowl? This man is yards and yards
away from getting a record breaking the age old record.
Then you do it again, you double down on it,
and you do it with the guy you got rid
of him four and Dan you Jones to QB, you
wouldn't win with him.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Now he's winning an.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Indy someday, right, something's wrong with New York If Eli
Manning and Tom Coughlin and them boys didn't win them
two super Bowls over the greatest possible football teams in
the history of the game. What else do you have
the lean on outside of saying the Giants are really no,
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not different from the Jets.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Well, by the way, were they with wild card teams
those years?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He and other than those years, the ELI never won
another playoff game. So he went on a run in
both in two thousand and seven twenty eleven, and then
other than that no playoff wins. Because he was also
part of the Odell Beckham yacht crew that was took
the picture on the yacht. Now, but he was probably
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he was probably driving.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
And if he was, let me tell you something, he
wouldn't be wearing Timberlands on a boat in South Florida.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
He would have had some like spirit tops. Dang, what
are you trying to say? I'm just saying he would
have wor who would where? So who's to say that's
not proper foot attire?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Timberland's in South Beach.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So what you're trying to say on a boat, We'll
just say it. Stand on it. You just stood on it?
Who does it? Who the hell wears Timberland's on a boat?
You tell me who does it? Two days? I don't
know we on two days in the road. Didn't that
Beckham did it? There you go? And what's Odell Beckham?
The wide receiver. Go ahead, Look you're coming out your mouth,
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Him to put this all on me.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You took the sorry all right about that?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I hate him?
Speaker 7 (09:57):
All right, We're gonna move on because I get c
work today. You did it two days in a row.
Cue god day, two days in a row. I mean,
all right, it's very topsiders can't understand tims on boats.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Why who where's Timberland's on a boat like that on
a cruising boat, beach.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
I can't figure it out because I'm a white guy,
can't relate to it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know who does that.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
It's the way you says that that makes it so funny, though,
Like who does that?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you know your.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Conclusion on the other side of it, because you know
who wore the Timberlands conclusion.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm the one asking the questions.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
You the Timberlands on the other side of the.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Question, who wore Odell? Yeah? What's Odell? What is he?
What is he? I should have been more specific?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Oh oh now, now, okay, now I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Black. Why are you saying like that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Man?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean, I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Man, y'all gotta stop it. It's it's like a game show, y'all.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Gotta stop this bath. You wanted to say something else? No?
What else? Did Jonas want to say?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Door number one, door number two, or door number three?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That OBJ is OBJ? No okay?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Door number two, that OBJ is ambedextrious no.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
And behind door number three, OBJ is left handed.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No, I think think of door number three. All right,
number go? Uh? He might be right. I'll got dough
number four. He's black? Oh man, yeah, racist? Okay? Why
are you being clear? Why are you clear your throat
when you hit the I can't help the way I talk.
(12:13):
I don't know. So that's how you were trained to
say that color saying again?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, in Jonas's defense, even how he says fox like
he emphasized the X.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Yeah, I mean, he definitely hits that c kme.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
On which it's kind of funny.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
There's a there's a group there's a group in Dallas
who does an impression of Greg Olsen calling games because
I guess Greg doesn't like properly pronounce or like I said,
it would be the better word the end of a word.
So if he's like, yeah, right here, the team must
take a shot instead of shot, right, Jonas is exactly the opposite.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It Like the way y'all say never, it's just instead
of never never never does.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's correct, That is correct.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
That word no just You're unbelievable, But you're right. You
got the gist of what I was saying. Hey, some
people say never, some people say never.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
You know, the you know in the you know, Brady
and the Colts can be called uh.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Hey, people might be too sensitive for this joke sessions.
So let's wrap it up. Man, wrap this one up.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, let's wrap it. Joking too, who's doing this? But
let's wrap it.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
This is a sports talk shop. Brady at least welcome
into a locker room. I mean, y'all was just in
the locker room. So there you go, what you get.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So Brady was on the call for the for the
Colts and the Raiders. He was on Sunday. He was
on that call. He definitely was. Yeah and uh and
so the Holts had an injury in that game. Spencer
Schrader ki, Yeah, So he's out for the year. And
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there was a report that came out over the weekend
that teams are closely monitoring the Justin Tucker situation.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
His suspension.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
His suspension is coming up here and I think less
than a month. I think, I think right around there,
and he's working out. He's posting videos of him making
and recreating all of his game winning kicks. I'm just saying,
is he in the lab right now?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He's in the lab.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's the kicking lab, not the grab He's not. He's
not in the handhouse, and he's not in the palm palace.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
He is not.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Instead there he is kicking. He is showing people that
he can still get the job done, even though he
had a difficult time last year in Baltimore on the field,
not off the field. And he's going to be scooped
up in a minute second he becomes available.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Why wouldn't you. I don't disagree.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I mean he served his time, he did his punishment.
If kicks are getting blocked left and right, and they're like,
we need a guy who's only had two or three
blocked in his entire career, let's scoop him up and
let's give him on the road.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Where's he at?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
As far as the legal status of all that stuff,
was there anything more?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't think so. He's he was suspended. I think
was it ten or eleven games by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And were there lawsuits though? I don't think so. I
don't think there were laws. There wasn't anything. They just
suspended them. Then that had been something I don't know. Yeah,
I think it's surfaced.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
But I'm glad you just want to talk about this
topic and then didn't have anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
What do I care about the lawsuits? I'm talking about
the guy on the field, all right. If he's got lost, yeah,
because it matters. He's not on the field because of lawsuits. Yeah,
but he's not on the field because he was suspended
by the NFL. That suspension is going to be up
in a month and he'll be back on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
And again he's suspended because of the lawsuits, which true
attention to his conduct off the field, which is why
he suspended.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And once the suspension is over, he'll be kicking again
in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Does it say lawsuits though, I think there were allegations
against him, but are.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Allegations as allegations allegations.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He's facing a class actual lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He is from six for massage therapists. Oh there you go.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, Well he's got to pay him somehow, So get
back on the field in the better month.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Seems pretty easy.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And he seems like he's going to be somebody that's
going to be in demand as soon as that becomes available.
So there's a quickly grabbing form.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
As that was over, Sam, he'll be tugging and pulling
for him. Here you look, yeah, I know where you
want to go.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm not I'm not going anywhere at this time. Just
you're a sick puppy.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
He's just saying, who does that? I mean when you
go there like full disclosure, Robert, I mean Robert Krafft.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
You know what I mean, Tucker, Yeah, but full disclosure
and LaVar you know this. Thank God, we'll give you
some different ideas. Right, I'll throw somebody. This was not
on my list of things to talk about. I'm pretty
sure it wasn't on Breeze. So I'm gonna put this
on one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Jonas, it wasn't me. And that's the thing. I know
it wasn't you, So I know it was Jonas. It's
not me. Well, there you go, just so you can
get in the palm Palace is on his way back.
He loves talking about it is the weird.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah, I don't know why you guys are so fixated
on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Man, just weird. You're the one to put in the
run that want to talk about it.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
But I'm just all i'm gonna say is as a
black guy, though I don't really understand the whole brad
lab deal.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I just don't understand it. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say.
You know, I got you. What do you mean by that?
Levarg you said a second ago. You guys could have
to show we didn't even offer a train. Let's talk
to prove my point.
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Speaker 12 (20:01):
Good morning guys. You know you know when I when
I hear that music, I'm actually sitting in my in
my library right now. I've got you know, just got
a couple of people around me. One guy just kissed
my hand. Yeah, you know, I'm just sitting there like
appacina and just ready to go.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You gotta get about it, you gotta. You had a
handgun hidden it behind the toilet, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, got a horse head and a.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
Bit horse said, it's never personal, so it's only there's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Nice, That's that's one way of putting it.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Well, you had the horse, you had the horse sound
ready to go? Good job.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Well we just talked about justin Tucker and as Jonas
would call it, the grab lab.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
That ye yeh, Dean, I've got a question from my game.
I'm still trying to figure this out. Do you know
where I'm going with this one? About the uh roughing
the kicker on the pah we had with Colts Raiders,
which then somehow when they instituted the penalty on the kickoff,
the Colts kicked out of bounds and meanwhile the Waters
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got penalized. Can you help explain that whole thing to me.
Speaker 12 (21:15):
So that's one of those deals where a kickoff out
of bounds is the penalty is twenty five the twenty
five yards in the spot of the kick right, So
normally we kick off from the thirty five kickoff out
of bounds, you get the forty, which is a great
field position. It doesn't change if the ball is moved
because of a penalty right fifteen yards for the carryover
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on the kickoff or on the pat it's still twenty
five yards. So it's actually a smart play by you know,
kicking it out of bounds.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
But the interesting thing was they didn't mean to, like,
I don't think they knew the loophole.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think there's some confusion.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
The officials seemed confused too.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
Yeah, I think you know, now, I think teams won't
will we'll figure that out that hey, and look that
that doesn't happen very often. One of the things when
they went to this new kickoff, because remember it used
to be the old kickoff. If you had a touchdown,
Like team throws a touchdown pass and there's rough of
the passer. A team could elect to take that on
the kickoff. Now you can't. You have to do it
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on the try because they want to avoid that that
situation moving the kickoff or back. But on the pat
there's nowhere else to put it. You have and you
have to enforce personal fouls. And so that's just one
of those weird kind of I don't know if it's
a loop. Well, it's just that's the rule.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's a loophole.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I mean, that's one that you'd have to think they'll
change in the off season, right, I.
Speaker 12 (22:38):
Think they'll they'll talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I think it's like the Raiders are sitting there thinking,
like they just kicked the ball of bounds and we
get penalized for it.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
Yeah, but they did, but they did foul, right, so
they they there should be some penalty to that because
of the foul. But yeah, I get it, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Know there was no penalty to it. Like, so what
happened was the Colts.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
It takes me back and when Brady was in the
studio and he would come up and we would argue
about rules and stuff. And I'd be like, yeah, you're right, dude,
you're right, and then he'd leave and I tell the
rest of the room he is so fully you know what.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Well, the funny thing about this is you were with
Tom Brady, so apparently didn't pay attention. Perreira goes, it'll
be on the tape next week, it'll most change, it
will most likely change next year, because.
Speaker 12 (23:21):
You're exactly right. You're exactly right.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I mean, by the way, I guess I understand now
why NFL fish things so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
This is what we've got. We've got guys that can't
give me a damn answer.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
We know you had a long weekend. We're just gonna
leave it there.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But you act like you gave an answer that would
make Raiders fans understand what the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They lost field position.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
But didn't they foul on the extra point?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, but they kept the p at the instituted. On
the kickoffs, they.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
Still fouled, So they should be put in at this vantage. Right,
Normally you get fifteen yards on that. That's the only
point I get what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I know they will at a disadvantage. And then the
kick play happens and that's a new play, right, and.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
That's a new play. Yeah sure right, yeah, So.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Okay, how are you penalizing the team then that wasn't
in that situation penalized.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Why do they have to?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
That's that's the rule. It's twenty five yards if you
want to then if you want to change it, okay,
if the ball's moved because of a penalty, that carries over.
Now now it gets more complicated, and we're going to say, okay,
it's not twenty five yards and that instance, maybe it's okay,
we still want to end up at the forty if
you kick it out of bounce and then they could
that could be a change, And you say, then in
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that instance, it's still going to be put at the forty.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I'd hope you understand what I'm saying, though, is they
kicked it out of bounds, and not.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
About on that play they fouled, and then they were
they were putting the reward seam found and they were
put in worse to the field position.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yep, well the Colts fould, but they were a reward
for it. Basically, how I'd put it simply, I got it,
I got.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It, I I got it.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
My godfather I'll send them over to you know, South Florida.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
But anyway, Dean I had something that probably won't make
Raider fans happy either. So last night the Chiefs pull off,
I guess a legal pick play near the goal line
on the Travis Kelcey touchdown, which was that was crazy. Well,
they threw the flag and all the Chiefs ran over
to let them know no, no, no, no, no, no no, that was
within the rules. It was the one yard, it was
the but you know, I think the rules analysts last
(25:28):
night was looking at it saying, yeah, I probably would
have thrown the flag there and kept it. That should
have been an illegal pick play. The narrative surrounding the
maybe that the Chiefs get away with more than other
teams do, or the officiate like, do you guys hear that?
And is there an emphasis like, hey, make sure we're
calling this the right way, because there's already a narrative
(25:49):
out there publicly that one team gets the benefit of
the doubt over others.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
In the NFL.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Yeah, I think, Look, officials are people, and they and
they not that they're trying to tell officials look stay
up for social media state, but they're not. They they live,
they work, they do different things. They see these things
that everybody talks about. It's not they're not immune to it.
But it doesn't We never said, hey, oh my gosh,
Steve t you know, the Patriots are winning all these
(26:15):
super Bowls, so the Chiefs are winning. We got to
make sure that we were extra careful during those games.
It's every game, right, you there's so much scrutiny. There's
the microscope is on the officiating all the time. So
they just want to get it right. I mean, that's
to play. It was close. The rule is one yard right,
you can you can legally pick within a yard of
the line of scrimmage official through the flag. They talked
(26:37):
about it. It's where the contact occurs. I thought they
should have left the flag down. But you know, as
far as narratives go, that they're just trying to get
the plays right and they're not worried about you know
which teams, and and and over time, and there's been
studies that ESPN just did a deal where they looked
at the last however many years, twenty years looking at
(26:58):
looking at penalties, and the Chiefs weren't on the on
the over that long a period. They It wasn't like
the Chiefs were getting more calls than their opponents or
less calls. It tends to even out over time. But uh,
the officials are just trying to go out and do
the best they can, and they're not worried about narratives
that are going out that are around around the you know,
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Dan, I'm gonna switch gears on you. And and this
is you know, I'm a defender. It pains me to
have to watch the game be called the way that
it is.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The protection of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Can we get to a point or where we just say,
maybe you tag off on the quarterback, maybe you grab
a flag. I know we're promoting flag football. I mean,
but at some point when you see what what happened
with with with Granderson in that Saints Giants game. Uh,
(27:56):
Cam Jordan went off about it. A lot of guys
were in sensed about it. How do you justify that play?
Even just some of the I've seen guys make make
hits on the quarterback, and even the way they are
allowed or able to fall is now being scrutinized very
(28:19):
very closely. But this one was so egregious. Can can
you give some clarity on the Carl Grandis and uh,
you know this sac on on the court on the
dark that.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
One look, it's the only justification is that it happens fast.
The official looks at it and and and in in
their judgment thought it was a foul. It's not right,
it's just and we see some of these hits and
it's become increasingly it's more difficult to tackle the quarterback
today than it's ever been because, like you said, there's
(28:50):
you can't hit. You can't go to the headneck area
and they're going to lean toward when it's close. It's
a foul. You can't go to the knee area below
you can when now when you even tackle the quarterback,
you have to get your body off to the side,
which which you know better than me.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's always easy to do.
Speaker 12 (29:07):
Exactly exactly to figure out how to try to tackle
like Josh Allen or or some of these big quarterbacks
and get him on the ground, it's going to be
hard to adjust your body. So I think the league,
the reality is the quarterback position does put that player
in a defenseless posture. Right you focus the downfield, so
(29:30):
we get that part of it. It is right, we
look at what's happening in Baltimore with Lamar out, look
at what happens when when a quarterback is out. Well,
you know that this is such an important position to
the to the health of this game. But I think
we've gone overboard in some instances. I really do. And
that's and I don't think the league is going to
(29:50):
back down. I think they say, Okay, well, we'll we'll
live with that, you know, a handful of bad calls
if it keeps our quarterbacks in the game. But it's
tough because that's a you know, it didn't affect that game,
but it could, and that's a you know, you want
to go to your officials and go what did you see?
Speaker 9 (30:06):
What?
Speaker 12 (30:06):
What did you you know? And then just correct that
going forward because it just wasn't a good call.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
The other play, I think a lot of fans, at
least on the Jacksonville Soer frustrated by was the non
defensive PI call Parker Washington who got blown up by
the Casey defender.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Did you just take me through what.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
The officials like, seeing how they go about trying to determine,
you know, defensive pass interference in that case or not?
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Yeah, I mean, that's a tough one because it all
happened so quickly. It's a bang bang play. And you
know we just talked about like that pick play with
on the Kelse touchdown. Okay, Well, is the receiver initiating
the contact? Is the defender initiating the contact? Isn't just
a collision because of the route and the defender going
to play the ball. So there's a lot happening. And
(30:50):
it's such a quick a quick short window. So look, yes,
when you watch it on film, he makes contact before
the ball arrives. Looks like heiates it. It's it's a foul,
but you know in real time. And then you have
multiple officials. Each receiver at the at the snap has
one official. Every eligible receiver has one official that that
(31:12):
starts with that receiver right and then and then depending
on the route and depending on on how the players run,
they there could be switches and they go they go
man the zone and then ball. In terms of the
officiating part of it, and uh, and so it's tough
and you have different angles from different different officials positions.
So not again not condoning that that oh they missed it,
(31:36):
and it's we got to get that call right, but
still it's it's it's easy to watch it on tape
and go, well, that's a foul versus live in real time,
seen it the first time from different angles, different officials,
and becomes you know, it's a tougher play to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Officiate, Dana.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
I hate to do this and stay on this whole
theme of us defenders are are villainized and the way
you guys call call games and stuff like that. But
I'm going to ask this I will never understand. And
this happened to me one time. I remember I was
trying to tackle Emmitt Smith, and EMMITTT. Smith grabbed me
(32:12):
by my face mask, and so I returned to favor
and grabbed him by his and we both went down
to the ground. I got a fifteen yard penalty for
a face mask.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why is it?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Why is it that a stiff arm is not the
same thing as a face mask?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Why is it?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Why is there a differentiation between a guy that gets
his like, okay, you're grabbing me to stiff army and
you've grabbed my face mask. Now, granted, I know that
the rules is that they should throw the flag, but
you and I both know the same type of action
you see from a running back or a quarterback in
their hand going to the face of a defender. If
(32:52):
the defender does that to an offensive player, they get
a flag that's automatic.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Why is that?
Speaker 12 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right in that in that
the rule is the same for both. The stiff farm
is legal. But if you grab the mask of the
defender that should be called. It doesn't get called as
much as it happens, whereas the defenders it's almost ninety
nine percent of the time that's going to get called.
And and this has been a discussion topic for the
Competition Committee, where you know, do you do you outlaw
(33:21):
the stiff farm because even right hands to the face,
if you go if a stiff farm, that same type
of action happens somewhere else. If it's an offensive lineman
block and the defensive lineman or vice versa with the
hands up to the that gets called hands to the face.
The stiff arm is legal. And the theory always was
at least the Competition Committee and the conversation was that
(33:42):
the ball carrier, the runner has has to have an
ability to protect themselves to ward off, to try to
to try to break tackles. So they didn't want to
put that ball carrier.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
At But the defender doesn't have the right to do
to say thing to protect themselves.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
No, and that's that is that is we we talk
about offensive and defensive balance, but the reality is that
the scales are always tipped. They're going to be tipped
to the offense. And that's one of those deals where
because we would see we'd see the stiff arm, and
and there are plays where instead of grabbing the mask,
the defender just grabs whatever they can and they end
(34:19):
up with a horse callar and the horse collar gets
called and they don't call the mask. So it's it's tough.
I don't think I don't have a great answer. I
don't think the competition Committe has a great answer. I
think they keep the stiff arm in the game other
than the officials have to call have to call it
on the runner when when he does grab the mask.
But you know that that doesn't get called as often,
like I said, as it should.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football rules analyst, Always
a good time here on a Tuesday morning, Dean, hell
of a job. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thanks you, Brady. I still love you. I love you, Dean.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I wait to watch the video where you gotta you know,
kind of run everything back.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
I'm doing the video this week so and that play
will not be on there.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
So well, here's the thing I don't understand is like
we have you guys there as a resource. Perero is
nowhere to be found, and obviously you're with the the crew.
So it's like, I'm like, all right, rode An Island
here trying to figure this out.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Wow, wow, all right, No, you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Just state how it is. Man. I'm sorry. You can't
handle the truth.
Speaker 12 (35:20):
You can now We're onto Now, We're onto FuGO.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Man, Wow, you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
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Speaker 2 (36:36):
Hi, Ray, Ray, what do we got?
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Okay, so we got some fun stuff in the news today.
I don't know if you saw this as a funny fan.
At the Patriots Bills game, a fan was able to
catch a ball that got thrown into the seated section,
and instead of staying and celebrating, he immediately got up
and he bounced.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He left left the stadium. He left the stadium with
my ball. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Ball, They try to get those things back.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Good for him.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Yeah, So I didn't realize they would take back the ball,
and a lot of other people didn't. But I like
what the sound people did here. Let's see if I
can get this sound right today?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh oh that do you hear this sound? Right?
Speaker 12 (37:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Okay, Well he goes on the fifteen and he's out
of there. That was a horrible sound. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Hey, listen, tomorrow's new day, you know, and have.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Music in the background.
Speaker 12 (37:31):
Just my luck.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Bomb, that's all right, what's next? What's oho with the ball?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's fine?
Speaker 8 (37:40):
Did you guys hear how bad the Panthers are?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
How bad are they?
Speaker 8 (37:44):
They are so bad that the Panthers podcasters are quitting
to spend more time with their family instead of wasting
their time watching the game.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, they did just win this week, though, So I mean, yeah,
they just won. Yeah, well, maybe they made the decision prematurely.
I don't think they're going to take it back though.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
They said that has been so disappointing watching these games
that they just don't see the point in wasting time
that they could be spending elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean, as Bryce Young improved, as he's shown them.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think he did last year.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
This year, it's kind of in a mixed bag, honestly.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
T Mat can play a little bit though.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Oh he's a beast. I hope they don't waste him, man.
I hope he I hope they either improve or let
him go so he.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Has a chance. You know, we feel too many wasted guys. Man.
I feel bad for t Max. Oh, guys, it's Taco Day.
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clarification we have the the remaining bit on the I
would love.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, that's it. That's all right.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
So just for the new audience, we had a debate
yesterday about.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I didn't have a debate.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, there's just you know, a discussion about de Mercado.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Dropping the ball. Yeah, yeah, we're having a discussion with
there's no debate, he said, bait.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So we were kind of kicking the kicking it around, like, hey,
why just keep happening? What's the appeal here? It sounds
no good?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Got? Got? Got?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I asked a general question, would a why guy and
not understand a guy dropping the ball early before going
into the endzo I like it was a fair legitimate
question from him.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
In my defense, I asked it initially to everyone. It's
a general question, which is okay to say.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's okay for you to say what you meant. Going back,
what's doing it. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
I'm just saying the truth shells you free.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
And it sucks because there's probably something out there in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
I haven't seen it from a white dude. Yeah, because
there's because they just don't score as much as US.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I don't know. I mean, there's not as many opportunities
for for it.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
We've got McCaffrey, but ye do he holds that thing
high and tight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I got quarterbacks like you know. I mean, Trevor Lawrence
got in last night. He had to hold on to
it though you know it was you know.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Well, again it goes back to the separation.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
There's not really a Patrick Mahomes got in last night
too for y'all.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Then y'all take Patrick Mahomes and we took Babrye fer trade.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah all right. So I don't know, man, you keep
living in the past.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
I just glad that that Q could free himself from
the bondage of not wanting to be all the way
truthful with what it was that he was insinuating. You know,
that's that was what was more important to me to
pull away from that. Those audio clips and I'm just
glad you agreed.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I mean, it wasn't a hat. It wasn't. I mean,
it was not a hard.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
One to debate. That's why I wasn't a debate. You
just needed to stand on your business.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's all. Stand on it.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
That's right, you put it out there, Just stand on it.
I don't as maybe because I'm a white guy, I
just don't understand it. And you know what, I don't
understand it as a black guy. But for some strange reason,
it has been my brother and that have made the mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean that I'm saying. You know who's probably.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Thrilled about the whole thing, though, Adie Mitchell, because he's like, man,
nobody's talking about me anymore, talking about this one. And
this one played out worse because he had Jonathan Gannon
assaulting the guy.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
On the sideline. He couldn't handle. He melted down over that.
It was such a close moment, too so close, you know.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
But I was trying to explain, like we really probably
didn't get a chance in the broadcast. But you know,
Shane stiching with Adie Mitchell, he wouldn't have dressed this
past week if not for the Alec Pierce injury, but
they legitimately needed the bodies and talk with him about it.
He said, look, he goes, he made a mistake. His
young players got all the town.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
In the world.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
He goes, He'll be fine, he goes, but he was
I have to hold everyone accountable. He's like, we have standards, right,
he goes, So if people in the locker room or
players in the locker room see that, he's not going
to face any consequences for that. When all the guys
are looking around saying, we should have won that game.
The colt should be five and zero, they should be
(05:20):
undefeated right now, and he's like, if I don't hold
him accountable, what message does that send to the veterans?
What messages that send to all the other guys in
the locker room. I'm like, it's a valid point, and
so that's probably what you will expect out of Jonathan Gannon.
He's apologetic is how he acted in the moment. But
I mean, we'll see what Lesson, you know, is taught.
(05:41):
Because they've got they're banged up in running back. I mean,
they need the mercado at running back. So we'll see
what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
It's gonna happen again. Though, it is a hell of
a run.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But yeah, I mean maybe that got maybe that got
a race about the conclusion of it, but a hell
of a run. You know, should have been a touchdown,
should have been you know, six added to it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
But it happens. You do make, people make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
You live and you learn, and you just hope that
in those mistakes that you make, you don't cost yourself
or cost your team.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Who would have had the Colts and the Jags best
records in the NFL at this point in the year,
and this was the same division that LeVar refused to
pick last year because he was so disinterested.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Is it great for football? Oh? Probably not. It's why
it's not bad for football.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I mean, like I said last last hour, the way
college is playing out and the way teams are losing
and winning, it makes it to me, it makes it
more entertaining, like like, let's get out of the norm,
Like I expect this, this happens, like, Okay, you go
through the whole routine of it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, here we go, yep, saying.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You had the better games by far.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
Absolutely, But I will say no, I wouldn't expect the
Jacksonville Jaguars to be this good. I would not have
expected the Indianapolis Colts with a Daniel Jones to be
this good.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's a great storyline.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
And Jacksonville is not a great market for a football team,
and yet it's a which probably one of the best
stories in the National Football League right now. So and
I mean the Colts, I think that's a great story too,
because you again, two years in a row, is somebody
else's trash, is somebody else's treasure from the same team
(07:40):
that can't win.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
How you get rid of one.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Guy that could have helped your team when they go
win the Super Bowl? This man is yards and yards
away from getting a record breaking the age old record.
Then you do it again, you double down on it,
and you do it with the guy you got rid
of him four and Dan you Jones to QB, you
wouldn't win with him.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Now he's winning an.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Indy someday, right, something's wrong with New York If Eli
Manning and Tom Coughlin and them boys didn't win them
two super Bowls over the greatest possible football teams in
the history of the game. What else do you have
the lean on outside of saying the Giants are really no,
(08:23):
not different from the Jets.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Well, by the way, were they with wild card teams
those years?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
He and other than those years, the ELI never won
another playoff game. So he went on a run in
both in two thousand and seven twenty eleven, and then
other than that no playoff wins. Because he was also
part of the Odell Beckham yacht crew that was took
the picture on the yacht. Now, but he was probably
(08:54):
he was probably driving.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
And if he was, let me tell you something, he
wouldn't be wearing Timberlands on a boat in South Florida.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
He would have had some like spirit tops. Dang, what
are you trying to say? I'm just saying he would
have wor who would where? So who's to say that's
not proper foot attire?
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Timberland's in South Beach.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So what you're trying to say on a boat, We'll
just say it. Stand on it. You just stood on it?
Who does it? Who the hell wears Timberland's on a boat?
You tell me who does it? Two days? I don't
know we on two days in the road. Didn't that
Beckham did it? There you go? And what's Odell Beckham?
The wide receiver. Go ahead, Look you're coming out your mouth,
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Him to put this all on me.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You took the sorry all right about that?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I hate him?
Speaker 7 (09:57):
All right, We're gonna move on because I get c
work today. You did it two days in a row.
Cue god day, two days in a row. I mean,
all right, it's very topsiders can't understand tims on boats.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Why who where's Timberland's on a boat like that on
a cruising boat, beach.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
I can't figure it out because I'm a white guy,
can't relate to it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know who does that.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
It's the way you says that that makes it so funny, though,
Like who does that?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you know your.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Conclusion on the other side of it, because you know
who wore the Timberlands conclusion.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm the one asking the questions.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
You the Timberlands on the other side of the.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Question, who wore Odell? Yeah? What's Odell? What is he?
What is he? I should have been more specific?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Oh oh now, now, okay, now I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Black. Why are you saying like that?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Man?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean, I'm trying to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Man, y'all gotta stop it. It's it's like a game show, y'all.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Gotta stop this bath. You wanted to say something else? No?
What else? Did Jonas want to say?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Door number one, door number two, or door number three?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That OBJ is OBJ? No okay?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Door number two, that OBJ is ambedextrious no.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
And behind door number three, OBJ is left handed.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
No, I think think of door number three. All right,
number go? Uh? He might be right. I'll got dough
number four. He's black? Oh man, yeah, racist? Okay? Why
are you being clear? Why are you clear your throat
when you hit the I can't help the way I talk.
(12:13):
I don't know. So that's how you were trained to
say that color saying again?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well, in Jonas's defense, even how he says fox like
he emphasized the X.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Yeah, I mean, he definitely hits that c kme.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
On which it's kind of funny.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
There's a there's a group there's a group in Dallas
who does an impression of Greg Olsen calling games because
I guess Greg doesn't like properly pronounce or like I said,
it would be the better word the end of a word.
So if he's like, yeah, right here, the team must
take a shot instead of shot, right, Jonas is exactly the opposite.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It Like the way y'all say never, it's just instead
of never never never does.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's correct, That is correct.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
That word no just You're unbelievable, But you're right. You
got the gist of what I was saying. Hey, some
people say never, some people say never.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
You know, the you know in the you know, Brady
and the Colts can be called uh.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Hey, people might be too sensitive for this joke sessions.
So let's wrap it up. Man, wrap this one up.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, let's wrap it. Joking too, who's doing this? But
let's wrap it.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
This is a sports talk shop. Brady at least welcome
into a locker room. I mean, y'all was just in
the locker room. So there you go, what you get.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So Brady was on the call for the for the
Colts and the Raiders. He was on Sunday. He was
on that call. He definitely was. Yeah and uh and
so the Holts had an injury in that game. Spencer
Schrader ki, Yeah, So he's out for the year. And
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there was a report that came out over the weekend
that teams are closely monitoring the Justin Tucker situation.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
His suspension.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
His suspension is coming up here and I think less
than a month. I think, I think right around there,
and he's working out. He's posting videos of him making
and recreating all of his game winning kicks. I'm just saying,
is he in the lab right now?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He's in the lab.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
It's the kicking lab, not the grab He's not. He's
not in the handhouse, and he's not in the palm palace.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
He is not.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Instead there he is kicking. He is showing people that
he can still get the job done, even though he
had a difficult time last year in Baltimore on the field,
not off the field. And he's going to be scooped
up in a minute second he becomes available.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Why wouldn't you. I don't disagree.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I mean he served his time, he did his punishment.
If kicks are getting blocked left and right, and they're like,
we need a guy who's only had two or three
blocked in his entire career, let's scoop him up and
let's give him on the road.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Where's he at?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
As far as the legal status of all that stuff,
was there anything more?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I don't think so. He's he was suspended. I think
was it ten or eleven games by the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And were there lawsuits though? I don't think so. I
don't think there were laws. There wasn't anything. They just
suspended them. Then that had been something I don't know. Yeah,
I think it's surfaced.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
But I'm glad you just want to talk about this
topic and then didn't have anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
What do I care about the lawsuits? I'm talking about
the guy on the field, all right. If he's got lost, yeah,
because it matters. He's not on the field because of lawsuits. Yeah,
but he's not on the field because he was suspended
by the NFL. That suspension is going to be up
in a month and he'll be back on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
And again he's suspended because of the lawsuits, which true
attention to his conduct off the field, which is why
he suspended.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And once the suspension is over, he'll be kicking again
in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Does it say lawsuits though, I think there were allegations
against him, but are.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Allegations as allegations allegations.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He's facing a class actual lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
He is from six for massage therapists. Oh there you go.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, Well he's got to pay him somehow, So get
back on the field in the better month.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Seems pretty easy.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
And he seems like he's going to be somebody that's
going to be in demand as soon as that becomes available.
So there's a quickly grabbing form.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
As that was over, Sam, he'll be tugging and pulling
for him. Here you look, yeah, I know where you
want to go.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm not I'm not going anywhere at this time. Just
you're a sick puppy.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
He's just saying, who does that? I mean when you
go there like full disclosure, Robert, I mean Robert Krafft.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
You know what I mean, Tucker, Yeah, but full disclosure
and LaVar you know this. Thank God, we'll give you
some different ideas. Right, I'll throw somebody. This was not
on my list of things to talk about. I'm pretty
sure it wasn't on Breeze. So I'm gonna put this
on one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Jonas, it wasn't me. And that's the thing. I know
it wasn't you, So I know it was Jonas. It's
not me. Well, there you go, just so you can
get in the palm Palace is on his way back.
He loves talking about it is the weird.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah, I don't know why you guys are so fixated
on this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Man, just weird. You're the one to put in the
run that want to talk about it.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
But I'm just all i'm gonna say is as a
black guy, though I don't really understand the whole brad
lab deal.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I just don't understand it. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say.
You know, I got you. What do you mean by that?
Levarg you said a second ago. You guys could have
to show we didn't even offer a train. Let's talk
to prove my point.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Nope, we just don't give him. List y'all can have him.
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Speaker 9 (18:38):
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Good morning, d.
Speaker 12 (20:01):
Good morning guys. You know you know when I when
I hear that music, I'm actually sitting in my in
my library right now. I've got you know, just got
a couple of people around me. One guy just kissed
my hand. Yeah, you know, I'm just sitting there like
appacina and just ready to go.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You gotta get about it, you gotta. You had a
handgun hidden it behind the toilet, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, got a horse head and a.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
Bit horse said, it's never personal, so it's only there's Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Nice, That's that's one way of putting it.
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Well, you had the horse, you had the horse sound
ready to go? Good job.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Well we just talked about justin Tucker and as Jonas
would call it, the grab lab.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
That ye yeh, Dean, I've got a question from my game.
I'm still trying to figure this out. Do you know
where I'm going with this one? About the uh roughing
the kicker on the pah we had with Colts Raiders,
which then somehow when they instituted the penalty on the kickoff,
the Colts kicked out of bounds and meanwhile the Waters
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got penalized. Can you help explain that whole thing to me.
Speaker 12 (21:15):
So that's one of those deals where a kickoff out
of bounds is the penalty is twenty five the twenty
five yards in the spot of the kick right, So
normally we kick off from the thirty five kickoff out
of bounds, you get the forty, which is a great
field position. It doesn't change if the ball is moved
because of a penalty right fifteen yards for the carryover
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on the kickoff or on the pat it's still twenty
five yards. So it's actually a smart play by you know,
kicking it out of bounds.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
But the interesting thing was they didn't mean to, like,
I don't think they knew the loophole.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think there's some confusion.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
The officials seemed confused too.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
Yeah, I think you know, now, I think teams won't
will we'll figure that out that hey, and look that
that doesn't happen very often. One of the things when
they went to this new kickoff, because remember it used
to be the old kickoff. If you had a touchdown,
Like team throws a touchdown pass and there's rough of
the passer. A team could elect to take that on
the kickoff. Now you can't. You have to do it
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on the try because they want to avoid that that
situation moving the kickoff or back. But on the pat
there's nowhere else to put it. You have and you
have to enforce personal fouls. And so that's just one
of those weird kind of I don't know if it's
a loop. Well, it's just that's the rule.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's a loophole.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I mean, that's one that you'd have to think they'll
change in the off season, right, I.
Speaker 12 (22:38):
Think they'll they'll talk about it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I think it's like the Raiders are sitting there thinking,
like they just kicked the ball of bounds and we
get penalized for it.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
Yeah, but they did, but they did foul, right, so
they they there should be some penalty to that because
of the foul. But yeah, I get it, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Know there was no penalty to it. Like, so what
happened was the Colts.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
It takes me back and when Brady was in the
studio and he would come up and we would argue
about rules and stuff. And I'd be like, yeah, you're right, dude,
you're right, and then he'd leave and I tell the
rest of the room he is so fully you know what.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Well, the funny thing about this is you were with
Tom Brady, so apparently didn't pay attention. Perreira goes, it'll
be on the tape next week, it'll most change, it
will most likely change next year, because.
Speaker 12 (23:21):
You're exactly right. You're exactly right.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I mean, by the way, I guess I understand now
why NFL fish things so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
This is what we've got. We've got guys that can't
give me a damn answer.
Speaker 12 (23:36):
We know you had a long weekend. We're just gonna
leave it there.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But you act like you gave an answer that would
make Raiders fans understand what the hell happened?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They lost field position.
Speaker 12 (23:48):
But didn't they foul on the extra point?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, but they kept the p at the instituted. On
the kickoffs, they.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
Still fouled, So they should be put in at this vantage. Right,
Normally you get fifteen yards on that. That's the only
point I get what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I know they will at a disadvantage. And then the
kick play happens and that's a new play, right, and.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
That's a new play. Yeah sure right, yeah, So.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Okay, how are you penalizing the team then that wasn't
in that situation penalized.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Why do they have to?
Speaker 12 (24:16):
That's that's the rule. It's twenty five yards if you
want to then if you want to change it, okay,
if the ball's moved because of a penalty, that carries over.
Now now it gets more complicated, and we're going to say, okay,
it's not twenty five yards and that instance, maybe it's okay,
we still want to end up at the forty if
you kick it out of bounce and then they could
that could be a change, And you say, then in
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that instance, it's still going to be put at the forty.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I'd hope you understand what I'm saying, though, is they
kicked it out of bounds, and not.
Speaker 12 (24:42):
About on that play they fouled, and then they were
they were putting the reward seam found and they were
put in worse to the field position.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yep, well the Colts fould, but they were a reward
for it. Basically, how I'd put it simply, I got it,
I got.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It, I I got it.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
My godfather I'll send them over to you know, South Florida.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
But anyway, Dean I had something that probably won't make
Raider fans happy either. So last night the Chiefs pull off,
I guess a legal pick play near the goal line
on the Travis Kelcey touchdown, which was that was crazy. Well,
they threw the flag and all the Chiefs ran over
to let them know no, no, no, no, no, no no, that was
within the rules. It was the one yard, it was
the but you know, I think the rules analysts last
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night was looking at it saying, yeah, I probably would
have thrown the flag there and kept it. That should
have been an illegal pick play. The narrative surrounding the
maybe that the Chiefs get away with more than other
teams do, or the officiate like, do you guys hear that?
And is there an emphasis like, hey, make sure we're
calling this the right way, because there's already a narrative
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out there publicly that one team gets the benefit of
the doubt over others.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
In the NFL.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
Yeah, I think, Look, officials are people, and they and
they not that they're trying to tell officials look stay
up for social media state, but they're not. They they live,
they work, they do different things. They see these things
that everybody talks about. It's not they're not immune to it.
But it doesn't We never said, hey, oh my gosh,
Steve t you know, the Patriots are winning all these
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super Bowls, so the Chiefs are winning. We got to
make sure that we were extra careful during those games.
It's every game, right, you there's so much scrutiny. There's
the microscope is on the officiating all the time. So
they just want to get it right. I mean, that's
to play. It was close. The rule is one yard right,
you can you can legally pick within a yard of
the line of scrimmage official through the flag. They talked
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about it. It's where the contact occurs. I thought they
should have left the flag down. But you know, as
far as narratives go, that they're just trying to get
the plays right and they're not worried about you know
which teams, and and and over time, and there's been
studies that ESPN just did a deal where they looked
at the last however many years, twenty years looking at
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looking at penalties, and the Chiefs weren't on the on
the over that long a period. They It wasn't like
the Chiefs were getting more calls than their opponents or
less calls. It tends to even out over time. But uh,
the officials are just trying to go out and do
the best they can, and they're not worried about narratives
that are going out that are around around the you know,
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Dan, I'm gonna switch gears on you. And and this
is you know, I'm a defender. It pains me to
have to watch the game be called the way that
it is.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The protection of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Can we get to a point or where we just say,
maybe you tag off on the quarterback, maybe you grab
a flag. I know we're promoting flag football. I mean,
but at some point when you see what what happened
with with with Granderson in that Saints Giants game. Uh,
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Cam Jordan went off about it. A lot of guys
were in sensed about it. How do you justify that play?
Even just some of the I've seen guys make make
hits on the quarterback, and even the way they are
allowed or able to fall is now being scrutinized very
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very closely. But this one was so egregious. Can can
you give some clarity on the Carl Grandis and uh,
you know this sac on on the court on the
dark that.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
One look, it's the only justification is that it happens fast.
The official looks at it and and and in in
their judgment thought it was a foul. It's not right,
it's just and we see some of these hits and
it's become increasingly it's more difficult to tackle the quarterback
today than it's ever been because, like you said, there's
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you can't hit. You can't go to the headneck area
and they're going to lean toward when it's close. It's
a foul. You can't go to the knee area below
you can when now when you even tackle the quarterback,
you have to get your body off to the side,
which which you know better than me.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's always easy to do.
Speaker 12 (29:07):
Exactly exactly to figure out how to try to tackle
like Josh Allen or or some of these big quarterbacks
and get him on the ground, it's going to be
hard to adjust your body. So I think the league,
the reality is the quarterback position does put that player
in a defenseless posture. Right you focus the downfield, so
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we get that part of it. It is right, we
look at what's happening in Baltimore with Lamar out, look
at what happens when when a quarterback is out. Well,
you know that this is such an important position to
the to the health of this game. But I think
we've gone overboard in some instances. I really do. And
that's and I don't think the league is going to
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back down. I think they say, Okay, well, we'll we'll
live with that, you know, a handful of bad calls
if it keeps our quarterbacks in the game. But it's
tough because that's a you know, it didn't affect that game,
but it could, and that's a you know, you want
to go to your officials and go what did you see?
Speaker 9 (30:06):
What?
Speaker 12 (30:06):
What did you you know? And then just correct that
going forward because it just wasn't a good call.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
The other play, I think a lot of fans, at
least on the Jacksonville Soer frustrated by was the non
defensive PI call Parker Washington who got blown up by
the Casey defender.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Did you just take me through what.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
The officials like, seeing how they go about trying to determine,
you know, defensive pass interference in that case or not?
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Yeah, I mean, that's a tough one because it all
happened so quickly. It's a bang bang play. And you
know we just talked about like that pick play with
on the Kelse touchdown. Okay, Well, is the receiver initiating
the contact? Is the defender initiating the contact? Isn't just
a collision because of the route and the defender going
to play the ball. So there's a lot happening. And
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it's such a quick a quick short window. So look, yes,
when you watch it on film, he makes contact before
the ball arrives. Looks like heiates it. It's it's a foul,
but you know in real time. And then you have
multiple officials. Each receiver at the at the snap has
one official. Every eligible receiver has one official that that
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starts with that receiver right and then and then depending
on the route and depending on on how the players run,
they there could be switches and they go they go
man the zone and then ball. In terms of the
officiating part of it, and uh, and so it's tough
and you have different angles from different different officials positions.
So not again not condoning that that oh they missed it,
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and it's we got to get that call right, but
still it's it's it's easy to watch it on tape
and go, well, that's a foul versus live in real time,
seen it the first time from different angles, different officials,
and becomes you know, it's a tougher play to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Officiate, Dana.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
I hate to do this and stay on this whole
theme of us defenders are are villainized and the way
you guys call call games and stuff like that. But
I'm going to ask this I will never understand. And
this happened to me one time. I remember I was
trying to tackle Emmitt Smith, and EMMITTT. Smith grabbed me
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by my face mask, and so I returned to favor
and grabbed him by his and we both went down
to the ground. I got a fifteen yard penalty for
a face mask.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why is it?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Why is it that a stiff arm is not the
same thing as a face mask?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Why is it?
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Why is there a differentiation between a guy that gets
his like, okay, you're grabbing me to stiff army and
you've grabbed my face mask. Now, granted, I know that
the rules is that they should throw the flag, but
you and I both know the same type of action
you see from a running back or a quarterback in
their hand going to the face of a defender. If
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the defender does that to an offensive player, they get
a flag that's automatic.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Why is that?
Speaker 12 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right in that in that
the rule is the same for both. The stiff farm
is legal. But if you grab the mask of the
defender that should be called. It doesn't get called as
much as it happens, whereas the defenders it's almost ninety
nine percent of the time that's going to get called.
And and this has been a discussion topic for the
Competition Committee, where you know, do you do you outlaw
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the stiff farm because even right hands to the face,
if you go if a stiff farm, that same type
of action happens somewhere else. If it's an offensive lineman
block and the defensive lineman or vice versa with the
hands up to the that gets called hands to the face.
The stiff arm is legal. And the theory always was
at least the Competition Committee and the conversation was that
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the ball carrier, the runner has has to have an
ability to protect themselves to ward off, to try to
to try to break tackles. So they didn't want to
put that ball carrier.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
At But the defender doesn't have the right to do
to say thing to protect themselves.
Speaker 12 (33:58):
No, and that's that is that is we we talk
about offensive and defensive balance, but the reality is that
the scales are always tipped. They're going to be tipped
to the offense. And that's one of those deals where
because we would see we'd see the stiff arm, and
and there are plays where instead of grabbing the mask,
the defender just grabs whatever they can and they end
(34:19):
up with a horse callar and the horse collar gets
called and they don't call the mask. So it's it's tough.
I don't think I don't have a great answer. I
don't think the competition Committe has a great answer. I
think they keep the stiff arm in the game other
than the officials have to call have to call it
on the runner when when he does grab the mask.
But you know that that doesn't get called as often,
like I said, as it should.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football rules analyst, Always
a good time here on a Tuesday morning, Dean, hell
of a job. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Thanks you, Brady. I still love you. I love you, Dean.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I wait to watch the video where you gotta you know,
kind of run everything back.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
I'm doing the video this week so and that play
will not be on there.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
So well, here's the thing I don't understand is like
we have you guys there as a resource. Perero is
nowhere to be found, and obviously you're with the the crew.
So it's like, I'm like, all right, rode An Island
here trying to figure this out.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Wow, wow, all right, No, you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Just state how it is. Man. I'm sorry. You can't
handle the truth.
Speaker 12 (35:20):
You can now We're onto Now, We're onto FuGO.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Man, Wow, you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
All right, la, all right there he is the Great
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Again.
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Speaker 9 (36:29):
Time to find out what's left tons incredible, here's the
left over?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Hi, Ray, Ray, what do we got?
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Okay, so we got some fun stuff in the news today.
I don't know if you saw this as a funny fan.
At the Patriots Bills game, a fan was able to
catch a ball that got thrown into the seated section,
and instead of staying and celebrating, he immediately got up
and he bounced.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
He left left the stadium. He left the stadium with
my ball. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Ball, They try to get those things back.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Good for him.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Yeah, So I didn't realize they would take back the ball,
and a lot of other people didn't. But I like
what the sound people did here. Let's see if I
can get this sound right today?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh oh that do you hear this sound? Right?
Speaker 12 (37:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Okay, Well he goes on the fifteen and he's out
of there. That was a horrible sound. Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Hey, listen, tomorrow's new day, you know, and have.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Music in the background.
Speaker 12 (37:31):
Just my luck.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Bomb, that's all right, what's next? What's oho with the ball?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's fine?
Speaker 8 (37:40):
Did you guys hear how bad the Panthers are?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
How bad are they?
Speaker 8 (37:44):
They are so bad that the Panthers podcasters are quitting
to spend more time with their family instead of wasting
their time watching the game.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, they did just win this week, though, So I mean, yeah,
they just won. Yeah, well, maybe they made the decision prematurely.
I don't think they're going to take it back though.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
They said that has been so disappointing watching these games
that they just don't see the point in wasting time
that they could be spending elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean, as Bryce Young improved, as he's shown them.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think he did last year.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
This year, it's kind of in a mixed bag, honestly.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
T Mat can play a little bit though.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Oh he's a beast. I hope they don't waste him, man.
I hope he I hope they either improve or let
him go so he.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Has a chance. You know, we feel too many wasted guys. Man.
I feel bad for t Max. Oh, guys, it's Taco Day.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
Eat a taco today, Taco Tuesday.
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