October 9, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, we got more drama out
of Chapel Hill. What is really going on with Bill
Belichick and North Carolina and that whole fiasco we will discuss.
We're also going to talk about another trade that took
place in the NFL involving one team who clearly is
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out of it, but they're still thinking for the future.
We're going to have a conversation as well too about
Thursday Night football and whether or not Brian dave Ball
was playing some mental warfare in their matchup against the
Philadelphia Eagles. Coming up later on, we do have panic
potentially in the world of Major League Baseball. We've got
another edition of Incation you misted. Albert Preer is going
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to stop by, and we've got the usual fun stuff.
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
There's been no How close are you guys in age
range to your like what's the age gap for you? Like?
Are you the middle child? Are you the oldest? Are
you the baby?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Which one are you?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Oh? No, it's a loaded question.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah no it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's a question. I'm the middle all right, I'm the
middle too. That's what I get. We get a lot
about you in one second. Yeah, there you go. See
what about you, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
So I always try to give you hugs when I
see you, you know, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Second to young wait for those huh second.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To the youngest. Yeah, what's the age.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Gap between me and my little brother or the.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Old Well yeah, yeah, because it matters with the younger
sibling every time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
My old my oldest brother was he's eighteen years older
than me. Yeah, and then my little brother, I'm three
years older than four years old.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Not bad, that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
What about you, q, I'm fifteen months younger than my
older sister. And then I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, let me do the math on this.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Would that be?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's not a big gap.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
But by the way, isn't it weird how my younger
sister her is there's a bigger gap to my How
old I am to her than my older sister?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
By the way, isn't it kind of weird? I you
have to almost think, like, wait, how old is everybody?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Again? The older you get, I'm six years older than
my younger brother, and I'm three years and four years
younger than my older brother and my older sister. So anyways,
I was just I was curious because the age gap.
When you have an age gap, a big one, they
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are diabolical to the younger one, like it is unspeakable
how I mean, there's times where there's really true love involved.
But like when you have like a six year you know,
like or more age gap, maybe even five. I don't know.
The way you treat that that baby is wild because
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it's not their kid, right, It's like you're you're my sibling,
but you're not my kid. And to see like when
they're like babies or a little bit younger, like wow,
they're still a baby, and the other one is like six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven years old, like you're like your older siblings. Jonas
treated you bad. Oh yeah, they did you bad. Yeah,
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they did you so bad.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I told you shot me in the head with a
bb gun. Yeah you did literally right, Yeah, pulled out
my dad's BB gun. I'm running on the hill to
try and get away from me, and he spots me
behind a bird cage and pops me and the bby
hits right behind my ear.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh right in the head, but in the head.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's cold blooded man. He was going for to kill.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Anyways, I was just having some funny stories about that. Yesterday.
It is some funny flashbacks because I did some wild
stuff to my younger brother, but I leave it unstated.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, but you can't do that now because then somebody
breaks out a cell phone camera and then it gets documented.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And no, not when I did services. Not when I
did it, I'm saying nowadays, it just napping.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Now, you know, older siblings probably can't beat anybody's ass
or else they're going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I was more strategic. I didn't beat him up. I
got him beat up. So I'll tell the story. So
there's this one time, right my dad. My dad is
very you know, military dude's very my daddy. They're very
particular about how they do things. If they leave something
a certain way, they do something a certain type of way.
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Like I don't know if it's with everybody, but a
lot of guys that I know, they're very particular about
their snacks or whatever it is that that that is
designated as their food. And one time my dad, we
order pizza and my dad was saving his pizza. We
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ate tore our pizza up, but he was saving his,
So I forgot that I did it, but it still
turned out to work in my favor because I was
able to deny it. I had that deniability aspect of it,
and it didn't seem like I was lying because I
forgot that I had did it. So it was like
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two thirty am in the morning and my dad just
screams like, hey, hey, everybody in the kitchen, and he
lined us up in the kitchen. Who ate my pizza?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And Eric?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I could see Eric was clearly shook. He might have
touched the pizza. And now I'm thinking about it, he
might have touched the pizza, so that's why he looked
so shook. But I ate the vast majority of pieces
of that pizza. And I wasn't into anchovies or anything
like that. Like it had black olives on it was gross.
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But I was so hungry that I went at it.
I faded the pizza. So my brother standing there and
he shook, so I knew he. I knew he was shook,
so I took a chance. I was like, man, ain't
nobody touching your nasty pizza. A pizza's nasty, them toppings
is nasty. I never eat it done right. My older
brother goes, Dad, you know, I didn't need your pizza.
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And then he gets to Eric, and Eric was like
froze up, like he couldn't answer it straight. Like it's like, well,
there you go, right there, look at him. They can't
even answer you, Like, hey, he's guilty. I'm going back
to bed. I got school tomorrow, right. So he's like, now,
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y'all ain't getting off that easy. Who ate my pizza?
So he finally he finally gets to the point of
where he knows nobody's going to give him a straight answer.
But he thought that my brother did it because of
the way he didn't answer, and you know, he scraped him.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
He scraped him and we had to stand there watch
him get a spanking for me for eating the pizza.
I mean he would do, was what bro?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
He hit He hit the fake convulsions to try to
get him to like stop you from from hitting me
with the spank. I just never we was having that conversation. Yes,
it was the funniest junk ever. It's like, dang, I
finally admitted after like forty years that I ate the
pizza like one of the little family gatherings. But yeah,
at least up to it though, you know, yeah, man,
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I mean I had to get that off my chest, man,
you know what I mean, Like I felt bad about
letting you, letting the little guy take take the little
the rap for it. But you gotta do your little
siblings bad sometimes, man. Sometimes they got had that experience
of being the younger sibling with a big gauge gap.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's all, you know, it is what it happens.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Age gaps.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hey, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, there's a significant age gap between Bill Belichick and
the players that he is currently coaching at North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And there's also well.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know, yeah, not everything, not that he minds based
on appearances.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But there was a report that came.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Out via Alie Connolly, a reporter who quoted yesterday, and
there's a lot here, and there's also a follow up
from Bill Belichick in North Carolina that we got to
get to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But this is from Allie Connelly yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Per sources, Bill Belichick has discussed buyout options with North
Carolina's hierarchy. Belichick has signaled a willingness to trigger his
own one million dollar buyout if he can find a
soft landing with another team or in media. Members of
Belichick's coaching staff have already spoken to other schools that
are expected to be in the College Football Playoff about
taking on roles during the postseason. From one coach quote,
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the rats are leaving the ship. Some staffers believe a
change will come within two weeks. There's reports of serious
recruiting violations that remain under investigation at North Carolina. Recruiting
and practice violations have already been proven by the school,
according to multiple sources, Using recruit violations to knock down
a coach his buyout has become a standard practice at
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Belichick cannot find a landing spot to trigger his own buyout,
He's expected to accept a greatly reduced compromise rate. Belichick's
communication with this staff in the past two weeks has
been described as quote weird and distant by multiple members
of North Carolina's coaching staff. Multiple coaches weren't unable to
get a hold of him during North Carolina's bye week.
From one North Carolina defensive assistant quote, what we've done
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to these kids is fed up now, followed up by
later on in the day statements from Bill Belichick and
North Carolina from Belichick quote, I'm fully committed to North
Carolina football on the program We're building here and from
Bubba Cunningham, who's the director of athletics at North Carolina,
quote coach Belichick as the full support of the Department
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of Athletics and university.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So what the f is going on? What is happening here?
Speaker 7 (11:06):
You?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I forget it.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, So let's just be clear.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
There was supposedly a board of regents who wanted to
hire Bill Belichick. That was the backstory to how he
got to North Carolina. Bubba Cunningham their athletic director. He
wanted to go to the conventional route, a guy who
could be a program builder, like a John Summer All type.
So Bubba Cunningham did have his way, as most athletic
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directors find out. You go to these schools and the
board of regents, the guys who've got a lot of
money who donate to the school, they really control it.
So that's how the operate air operation goes. So you
got to sign up for it. You also have to
put yourself in a position though, to be able to
insulate yourself from what could be a disaster, and this,
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by all all accounts.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Looks like a disaster.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
It's hard to figure out where exactly Bill Belichick missed
in all of this.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Is it just he doesn't care anymore?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Is that what this is about, between his relationship and
allowing her to be so intricately involved, which may not
be a bad thing, Maybe it is a bad I
don't know. I'm not in the program. I don't know
the details of the extent of her impact. So that's
the first thing I'm wondering. The second is this more
about just trying to coach ball? If it is, I
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felt like there would be more of a long term plan,
but it feels like this has gotten off to such
a bad start. I don't know if there is. I
think one of the hardest things was and I don't
know if Bill Belichick has said it so much as
Mike Lombardi, but.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
The whole thirty third NFL team.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Sounded great, although as we've heard mother accounts, I don't
think they knew what they were doing. I really think
that they can felt like they could bargain shop in
college football to put together a team, to then coach
them up, develop them and make them into a winner
because there is so far superior schematically, and once you
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again forget and this is what.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I said yesterday, I'll say it again today when like talent.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Is far superior to scheme, and it just it is
like you see it at the NFL level when you
have one of those generational talents where now all your
scheme is about stopping that generational talent. That's when we
look at the guys we go, that's a first ballot
Hall of Famer. That's what I always say. That's how
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I described I go, did he change your game plan?
Did you walk into that meeting room and go, all right,
what's our plan from Aaron Donald?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Every play?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
What's our plan for JJ Watt, whoever it is, whatever
edge rush are you gonna talk about?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
You know, what's our plan for Von Miller?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What's our plan for Max Crosby, t J Watt, Miles Garrett,
Micah Parsons, what's our plan run blocking?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Pass pro? Every play?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Like when that's at the NFL level, because you only
have a few of those guys, like we we tend
to sometimes over exaggerate certain players. Well they're really good players,
but it's all right, we'll leave it one on one.
You know, we're like, we're not that's a good quarterback.
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All right, We're still gonna throw our you know, one
on one go round against them, We're not scared.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Of that guy.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
So I think they drastically overestimated their ability to recruit,
develop and find like these diamond and the rough guys
that we're gonna make a difference. And that's why their
team lacks so much talent compared to everyone else. And
then see, I just I don't know, maybe they're not
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made for this this game. You know, as far as
the college football level.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think it was going to take time, certainly. I mean, listen,
what Dion was able to do. I think a lot
of things, A lot of factors had to play a
part in how that kind of played out, and which,
by the way, it wasn't the greatest of successes, right,
it didn't turn out to be, you know, them making
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the College Football Playoff or anything like that, or winning
their conference. But I think he did create a hope
and a measuring stick to be able to do what
it is that he was able to do. But keep
in mind, Dion was at Jackson State the first what
two years, I believe, so he you know, it was
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relatively obscure in the sense that it wasn't major college
football that he was coaching. When he first went to
college to coach for Bill Belliche. I think a lot
of what you're saying is is definitely like on point.
Like I think he felt as though we could come
in run this thing like an NFL franchise. I'd be
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in control of it, and we're going to bring in Uh.
We have this unlimited amount of talent, a wealth of
talent that we can draw from in the transfer portal.
So I'm gonna get rid of all the bad, all
the old, and I'm gonna bring in all the new,
all the things that I feel good about. The Only
thing is I just wonder in that estimation, when you
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went to, you know, replace what you had in the
transfer portal. There's two there's two different types of transfer
portal guys. In my estimation, one is out of necessity.
They they we'll say three, I'll say three. One is
out of success, out of necessity, you know, something something happened,
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they wanted to be close or the home, adad so
on and so forth. Coaches left one of those type
deals they went into the portal, don't know what's next.
The other one is it's a higher gun, and whether
people want to admit it or not, there's the ones
that go into the portal because they were advised to
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go into the portal because they have a deal looming,
and that's generally going to be probably your best player
that goes into the portal. But the chances of you
getting the best talent that goes into the transfer portal
is slim to none because they already have an idea
of what their deal is going to be and where
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they're going to go to play at their next school.
Unless there's a negotiation takes it the different to the
next place. But you're negotiating for that player. And then
the third one is just a guy that's second, third
on the depth chart, fourth on the depth chart. I
don't feel as though they're going to be good enough
to play at the place that they're at, and they
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want to get a new start, want to go somewhere else.
Could be like a fifty year senior, could be younger,
doesn't matter, but they're going to transfer because of one
reason or another. I don't think I'm going to play here,
the coaches don't like me, whatever, whoopedy woo. They go
into the transfer portal. I wonder how many from the
categories did North Carolina get Because I know for certain,
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one of the guys that they got from Penn State.
He wasn't an elite guy for Penn State. He definitely
was not a guy, but nonetheless they took him in
the portal and he became a part of their team.
I just wonder when you're doing because in some cases
this could be considered to be patchwork, you know, patch
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up work, and sometimes you don't get an opportunity to
see how good a coach can be, including Bill Belichick,
until they have a little bit of time to integrate
and implement. I was just saying this. I had conversation
with coach Franklin yesterday. Mind you you know where you know,
there's a lot of heat coming down on the coaching staff,
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on the coordinators, as it should, but this is this
is Jim Knowles's first season there, and he does run
a very complex pro style type of defense where it's
a very large playbook and can be confusing and daunting
to a college student. I wonder if that's an idea,
if that's a part of this, you know, is the
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scheme a daunting scheme? Is it a pro scheme where
you need time for guys to implement and integrate into
what it is that the playbooks look like on both
sides of the ball. I'm not sure certain what it is,
but I would hate for it to be the one
reason that you stated or cited that he doesn't care.
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I would hate for that to be the reason, and that,
to me, would be the only reason for conclusion of
thinking that you want to buy out. Right, Like I
chose to come here coach that college. I don't really
like it. I don't feel good about the way this
feels for me as a college coach. So yeah, I'm
okay with a buyout. I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It seems like there's been so much surrounding the program
that you know, you can dismiss one report like yeah, yeah, whatever,
that's just bs, and then you can dismiss like they
can't just be making this stuff up, like clearly there's issues, Clearly,
there's concerns. Clearly it's not going well, Like there's got
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to be some sort of either buyer's remorse or regret
going on there from either just North Carolina or both
North Carolina and Bill Belichick. And yet caught in the
middle are all those guys and we kind of kicked
it around yesterday, like man Mike Lombardi's telling donors and
everybody like, yeah, we're focused on the freshman class. Who's
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to say when it comes time for the portal in
January the freshman classes, and like, I gotta go, I can't.
There's too much going on here and it's it's kind
of sad to see that. This is what I mean,
you know this, We're talking the greatest coach of all
time and this is where we're at. And I don't
know if he just wanted to get back in so
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bad that he didn't think it all the way through.
But you just go back to had a second interview
with Atlanta, had an opportunity to get the Falcons job,
it didn't go well, and then was not interviewed the
next year. And I don't know if it was a
panic move, but jumped into this and it's been a disaster.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Man, Like it has not gone well.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Somebody in Atlanta tak about we dodged a bullet dog.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Let me have that. There's my question, what does this
but what does this do to this legacy? Does it
touch it? Does it hurt it? I mean, what does
it do.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I think it's a I think it's a blip. And
I think it's a blit. It's like, oh, LT, how
did LT finish his career? Does anybody know that he
tore an achilles tendent? Like I don't know that people
would ever mention that Lawrence Taylor tore his Achilles tendant
and the way he ended his career wasn't it wasn't
you know at the level that the LT we got
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to know. I think it's just a blip on his radar.
It's it'll be a cliff note, it'll be a side note,
like it'll be a trivia. Did you know that this
coach went to a college after pros and had a
girlfriend that was ninety years younger than him, and it
just it'd just be a blip on the on his
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resume radar. I don't think it does anything to hurt
his legacy.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It lends credence to the he couldn't do it without Brady,
And and that's probably an issue that without Brady, this
is what it was. Because now now you've got bookends,
you've got the time before the Patriots, and then you've
got the time with the pay after Brady and then
you've got this like it did. Like that's where I
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think this is kind of a bad look for it.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I will go a step further.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
If you think about some of the Super Bowls and
the impact that he directly had on them, like sitting out.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Malcolm Butler, maybe they would have won more without Bill.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It sounds crazy to say, but now looking at all
this and to your point, life after Tom Brady, New England,
life after Tom Brady, even in college, life before Tom
Brady in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It's kind of wild to say.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But again, I don't think there's a problem with asking
the question and having the thought of maybe they would
have won more if Bill wasn't a part of the picture.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And there was.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Nick Saban made a comment about he kind of criticized
the Patriots handling of Mac Jones based on Mac Jones'
performance with Kyle Shanahan and it's like that's his guy,
like Belichick's guy, and Belichick was largely responsible for that,
the fallout of Mac Jones. And we're talking about Joe
Shane and Brian Dayball and what it looks like when
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those guys leave there and they have success, and if
Mac Jones keeps dealing with the Niners Like that's another
one that you're gonna look back on and go, how'd
they f that up? Like he had potential and the
OC decisions and all it just, yeah, it's not gone well.
Last five years have not been great for him at all.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I will push back a little bit and say, Brady me, what, Yeah,
that is your younger brother. Damn push a younger yeah?
Uh out without them drafting him and without him getting
the opportunity no matter who drafted him, no matter who
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developed him. It was Bill Belichick's staff, and that was
already a really really dope team that that Brady went to,
Like more so on the defensive side of the ball.
I mean a lot of people don't really give that
New England Patriots defense the type of love and credit
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that they're deserving of. But you have Willie McGinnis, who
I believe like it's like the leader in sacks in
postseason something like that. He's like close to the leader
or is the leader in sacks and postseason play. You
got Ty law who's a Hall of Famer. From that defense,
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you had Lawyer malloy.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
As you're not making a case for Bill just because
they're there.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
He had a scouting department too.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, I'm making the point that that's his staff
though it's his staff, so he's never left and did anything.
I understand that. But they did it as at New England.
They they whatever it is, that the magic that they created.
And listen, you can you could play the contrary inside
of it, or you could play the pro side of
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it like I I You could go either way, but
I'm I'm going to say that's his staff. Whoever he
whoever he trusted and hired to be a part of
what he did. He delegated those those duties to the
people who did it, and they did it at the
level of where they had all those Super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So I think it's hard. It's Hardo changed over the years. Yeah,
it's it's hard to play the staff.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But once you've I would say, once you experienced the
level of success, and it's gonna change, right Romeo Crenell
Lev like Patricia Lev you know, McDaniel left like you're
gonna lose guys due to success, and they didn't do
very well once they left left New England. But with
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that being said, I think once you're it's just like Alabama.
Once you're in you're enjoying the type of success that
a program is having. People are going to come and go,
but your system is in place. And I think his
system in place yielded him a return of a ton
of success for the duration of time that it did.
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The well ran draft, you know, the milk went bad.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Tom Brady left and everything fell apart.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was starting to go, it was starting to go
bad before Tom left.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
It's always players before plays, man, it always has.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Good I always agree. I don't disagree with that. I
don't disagree with that, but I would just say I
still would take that into consideration that you had to
bring him in. And I mean that dude went so
late in the draft. It's not like you could sit
there and be like, all right, we knew that Tom
Brady was going to become the best football player to
(27:55):
ever play the game.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I mean that's even more damning is you can't take
credit for something that like you fell.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Into m I don't know, I could see. I could
see the perspective of it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
It's like buying a lot of ticket making a bunch
of millions and being like, yeah, I'm a great business man.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's like, no, you would and bought a lot of ticket.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's it's not an apples as you would say. It's
not an apples to apples comparison, because when you think
about you got a scout guys and sometimes the best players.
I mean, I don't know how many players that are unrestricted.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Here's the God's truth to the most coaches general managers
are not that involved in.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
The sixth seventh round.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It's usually assistant coaches of the guys who've actually done
a lot of the grunt work scouting with the scouts.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I mean, it's a higher staff that they're focused on.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I like, it's still their staff, though, like take credit
for it being his staff.
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you here. Coming up a result that you know, some
people probably not thrilled with in the world of sports.
It took place over the last twenty four hours. We'll
get into that for you coming up here in just
a couple of moments from now. But right now, it
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Speaker 11 (31:13):
Well one, two, swim, strike three, screaming flecks from Hoffman.
The Blue Jays hard back in the ALCS for the
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their own yard and they're the first team in Baseball's
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Speaker 2 (31:54):
But yeah, Yankees are gone. That's a wrap that'll do
it for the the New York.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yankees who were in a World Series last year and
are now out in the Alds unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I do have a bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Question for you guys.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Okay, okay, do you believe that the Red Sox fans
were rooting for the Blue Jays in that series.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No idea.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I do know this. That result is not good for TV.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It's not good for TV. I know that that's that's
the direction that I was going to go. It's not
a good not a good result for TV.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Because it just says something to believe that they were.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Now you're going to root against your your rivals even
though you're going to root for your rivals opponent.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Even though they're from another country. Yeah, so loyalty to
the country is secondary to loyalty to.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
The Loyalty to your country supersedes sports. Okay, but the
Blue Jays from Toronto, right, So you don't have to like,
I'm not comparing my loyalty or weighing my loyalty of
our country based off of wanting a team to beat
the team that I hate. Like, I don't care if
the team was from Africa, I would want them to
(33:07):
beat up on Dallas Cowboys. Mike closed, I would mean
I could have said Europe. That would sound a little boring.
I got people's attention when I said Africa. You know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Anyway?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
I didn't get TV network's attention that either.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm just being funny,
but yeah, I think that it has nothing to do
with what with your patriotism. It has everything to do
with your hate for for the team that you hate
and you want that team to lose. Period.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
By the way, if the Dodgers end up slipping up
in Game four, panic Panic Brothers are.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Coming out, right, are they coming out?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, Pats?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
What did the Panic Brothers sound like? You always reference that.
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So petros And is a radio partner Matt money Smith, Like,
they'll just stir the pot because Dodger fans.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
So what does that sound like? Dude, you're describing now
you're doing an impression.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I can't do an impression. But what's said that we can?
We can't can we can't sign onto this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I can't impersonate petros I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Pal, whatever you want, Pal, he's one of the It
is a great title, though, good time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Because the thing about Major League Baseball in the playoffs
is that you're on the edge of your seat for
every single pitch. That when things like Kershaw got absolutely
lit on fire last night, and Dodger fans are like watching, going,
what the f that might have been his final appearance
at Dodger Stadium and he got torched, And so that's
(34:42):
this first seed that gets planted. If they lose Game
four coming up later, then all of a sudden, that's
the next one.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And then you've got a panic plant growing. And if
they get to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Game five with everything on the line in back in Philadelphia,
Petros matter just going to feed it, like they're just
they're gonna and they're gonna get everybody going, and they're
gonna get stressed out. And if God forbid, the Phillies
come back and win that series. To Brady's point, now
you're out the Yankees and now you're out the Dodgers
in the playoffs. Not great, what's the likelihood of that happening?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Better after last night? Better after last night.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
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the results of what took place, unless you're a Red
Sox fan and you don't care about the country, Like
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Speaker 2 (39:31):
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Speaker 2 (39:49):
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Speaker 7 (40:11):
All right, guys, come on, all right, So we got
NBA guys.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
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Speaker 7 (40:22):
In a lot of trade rumors, you know, just for
the past literally ever the last couple of years. So
this one's new where well, he's saying that I'm locked
into the team right now for the Milwaukee Bucks. But
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and he feels if the team is not hitting that
(40:42):
direction by that point in time, he may start looking elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So what would we call this? Like the spring sweeps?
The spring sweeps? No one's I just see myself out.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's always something like there's just always something like nobody
nobody's ever happy in the NBA. They're always all about
the next move. What's the next move? What's what are
they going to do?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Is with the salary contracts. I'm just come on, man,
they got all the leverage, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I don't know. I don't know what six months means.
I just know that Milwaukee is they they gone, they go.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
But you got the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
They had their they had their opportunity and they had
their moment in time.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You got the Packers, Yeah, I mean they I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Just saying for the Bucks. They they were able to
bring a championship there. And Johann has had a great
run of being the m v P in the league
and has established himself as as a max contract guy.
So he's done everything he needs to do. But Milwaukee
they done. That's that's a rap on them being a
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competitor or contender.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
It's a rap are We got one more here for you, guys.
So we're gonna stay in the NBA. So All Star
Game do we have to? I guess? So in case
you missed it, guys, the NBA will still not move
the All Star.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Game out of l A.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
Uh, you know, with the whole because it's going to
be in the Clippers Stadium, not the Lakers side. But
with the whole Clipper investigation going on, they're not moving
the All Star Game out of LA. They're going to
keep it there still.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Wait, wait, so they're dividing up for the All Star
Game the side of that arena.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
No, no, no, I'm saying the Clippers Stadium, the new
the new Clippers into it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Does it's better than Crypto from what I hear. I mean,
it's supposed to be the probably real nice.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'm not a big fan of the You walk in
and there's facial recognition when you walk into a like
a mini Martin inside the.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Stadium, and you know, why don't you like that?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's just it's very invasive.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
What you're trying to hide? Yeah, nobody's database you I mean,
there were no databases when you came to the Earth.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Wait, why try to hide vampire.
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
There's been no How close are you guys in age
range to your like what's the age gap for you? Like?
Are you the middle child? Are you the oldest? Are
you the baby?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Which one are you?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Oh? No, it's a loaded question.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah no it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's a question. I'm the middle all right, I'm the
middle too. That's what I get. We get a lot
about you in one second. Yeah, there you go. See
what about you, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
So I always try to give you hugs when I
see you, you know, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Second to young wait for those huh second.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
To the youngest. Yeah, what's the age.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Gap between me and my little brother or the.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Old Well yeah, yeah, because it matters with the younger
sibling every time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
My old my oldest brother was he's eighteen years older
than me. Yeah, and then my little brother, I'm three
years older than four years old.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Not bad, that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
What about you, q, I'm fifteen months younger than my
older sister. And then I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, let me do the math on this.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Would that be?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's not a big gap.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
But by the way, isn't it weird how my younger
sister her is there's a bigger gap to my How
old I am to her than my older sister?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
By the way, isn't it kind of weird? I you
have to almost think, like, wait, how old is everybody?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Again? The older you get, I'm six years older than
my younger brother, and I'm three years and four years
younger than my older brother and my older sister. So anyways,
I was just I was curious because the age gap.
When you have an age gap, a big one, they
(03:34):
are diabolical to the younger one, like it is unspeakable
how I mean, there's times where there's really true love involved.
But like when you have like a six year you know,
like or more age gap, maybe even five. I don't know.
The way you treat that that baby is wild because
(03:58):
it's not their kid, right, It's like you're you're my sibling,
but you're not my kid. And to see like when
they're like babies or a little bit younger, like wow,
they're still a baby, and the other one is like six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven years old, like you're like your older siblings. Jonas
treated you bad. Oh yeah, they did you bad. Yeah,
(04:23):
they did you so bad.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I told you shot me in the head with a
bb gun. Yeah you did literally right, Yeah, pulled out
my dad's BB gun. I'm running on the hill to
try and get away from me, and he spots me
behind a bird cage and pops me and the bby
hits right behind my ear.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh right in the head, but in the head.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's cold blooded man. He was going for to kill.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Anyways, I was just having some funny stories about that. Yesterday.
It is some funny flashbacks because I did some wild
stuff to my younger brother, but I leave it unstated.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, but you can't do that now because then somebody
breaks out a cell phone camera and then it gets documented.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
And no, not when I did services. Not when I
did it, I'm saying nowadays, it just napping.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Now, you know, older siblings probably can't beat anybody's ass
or else they're going to get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I was more strategic. I didn't beat him up. I
got him beat up. So I'll tell the story. So
there's this one time, right my dad. My dad is
very you know, military dude's very my daddy. They're very
particular about how they do things. If they leave something
a certain way, they do something a certain type of way.
(05:37):
Like I don't know if it's with everybody, but a
lot of guys that I know, they're very particular about
their snacks or whatever it is that that that is
designated as their food. And one time my dad, we
order pizza and my dad was saving his pizza. We
(05:58):
ate tore our pizza up, but he was saving his,
So I forgot that I did it, but it still
turned out to work in my favor because I was
able to deny it. I had that deniability aspect of it,
and it didn't seem like I was lying because I
forgot that I had did it. So it was like
(06:21):
two thirty am in the morning and my dad just
screams like, hey, hey, everybody in the kitchen, and he
lined us up in the kitchen. Who ate my pizza?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And Eric?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I could see Eric was clearly shook. He might have
touched the pizza. And now I'm thinking about it, he
might have touched the pizza, so that's why he looked
so shook. But I ate the vast majority of pieces
of that pizza. And I wasn't into anchovies or anything
like that. Like it had black olives on it was gross.
(07:00):
But I was so hungry that I went at it.
I faded the pizza. So my brother standing there and
he shook, so I knew he. I knew he was shook,
so I took a chance. I was like, man, ain't
nobody touching your nasty pizza. A pizza's nasty, them toppings
is nasty. I never eat it done right. My older
brother goes, Dad, you know, I didn't need your pizza.
(07:22):
And then he gets to Eric, and Eric was like
froze up, like he couldn't answer it straight. Like it's like, well,
there you go, right there, look at him. They can't
even answer you, Like, hey, he's guilty. I'm going back
to bed. I got school tomorrow, right. So he's like, now,
(07:42):
y'all ain't getting off that easy. Who ate my pizza?
So he finally he finally gets to the point of
where he knows nobody's going to give him a straight answer.
But he thought that my brother did it because of
the way he didn't answer, and you know, he scraped him.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
He scraped him and we had to stand there watch
him get a spanking for me for eating the pizza.
I mean he would do, was what bro?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
He hit He hit the fake convulsions to try to
get him to like stop you from from hitting me
with the spank. I just never we was having that conversation. Yes,
it was the funniest junk ever. It's like, dang, I
finally admitted after like forty years that I ate the
pizza like one of the little family gatherings. But yeah,
at least up to it though, you know, yeah, man,
(08:31):
I mean I had to get that off my chest, man,
you know what I mean, Like I felt bad about
letting you, letting the little guy take take the little
the rap for it. But you gotta do your little
siblings bad sometimes, man. Sometimes they got had that experience
of being the younger sibling with a big gauge gap.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
That's all, you know, it is what it happens.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Age gaps.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Hey, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, there's a significant age gap between Bill Belichick and
the players that he is currently coaching at North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And there's also well.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know, yeah, not everything, not that he minds based
on appearances.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But there was a report that came.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Out via Alie Connolly, a reporter who quoted yesterday, and
there's a lot here, and there's also a follow up
from Bill Belichick in North Carolina that we got to
get to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But this is from Allie Connelly yesterday.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Per sources, Bill Belichick has discussed buyout options with North
Carolina's hierarchy. Belichick has signaled a willingness to trigger his
own one million dollar buyout if he can find a
soft landing with another team or in media. Members of
Belichick's coaching staff have already spoken to other schools that
are expected to be in the College Football Playoff about
taking on roles during the postseason. From one coach quote,
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the rats are leaving the ship. Some staffers believe a
change will come within two weeks. There's reports of serious
recruiting violations that remain under investigation at North Carolina. Recruiting
and practice violations have already been proven by the school,
according to multiple sources, Using recruit violations to knock down
a coach his buyout has become a standard practice at
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Belichick cannot find a landing spot to trigger his own buyout,
He's expected to accept a greatly reduced compromise rate. Belichick's
communication with this staff in the past two weeks has
been described as quote weird and distant by multiple members
of North Carolina's coaching staff. Multiple coaches weren't unable to
get a hold of him during North Carolina's bye week.
From one North Carolina defensive assistant quote, what we've done
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to these kids is fed up now, followed up by
later on in the day statements from Bill Belichick and
North Carolina from Belichick quote, I'm fully committed to North
Carolina football on the program We're building here and from
Bubba Cunningham, who's the director of athletics at North Carolina,
quote coach Belichick as the full support of the Department
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of Athletics and university.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So what the f is going on? What is happening here?
Speaker 7 (11:06):
You?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I forget it.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, So let's just be clear.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
There was supposedly a board of regents who wanted to
hire Bill Belichick. That was the backstory to how he
got to North Carolina. Bubba Cunningham their athletic director. He
wanted to go to the conventional route, a guy who
could be a program builder, like a John Summer All type.
So Bubba Cunningham did have his way, as most athletic
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directors find out. You go to these schools and the
board of regents, the guys who've got a lot of
money who donate to the school, they really control it.
So that's how the operate air operation goes. So you
got to sign up for it. You also have to
put yourself in a position though, to be able to
insulate yourself from what could be a disaster, and this,
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by all all accounts.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Looks like a disaster.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
It's hard to figure out where exactly Bill Belichick missed
in all of this.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Is it just he doesn't care anymore?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Is that what this is about, between his relationship and
allowing her to be so intricately involved, which may not
be a bad thing, Maybe it is a bad I
don't know. I'm not in the program. I don't know
the details of the extent of her impact. So that's
the first thing I'm wondering. The second is this more
about just trying to coach ball? If it is, I
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felt like there would be more of a long term plan,
but it feels like this has gotten off to such
a bad start. I don't know if there is. I
think one of the hardest things was and I don't
know if Bill Belichick has said it so much as
Mike Lombardi, but.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
The whole thirty third NFL team.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Sounded great, although as we've heard mother accounts, I don't
think they knew what they were doing. I really think
that they can felt like they could bargain shop in
college football to put together a team, to then coach
them up, develop them and make them into a winner
because there is so far superior schematically, and once you
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again forget and this is what.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I said yesterday, I'll say it again today when like talent.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Is far superior to scheme, and it just it is
like you see it at the NFL level when you
have one of those generational talents where now all your
scheme is about stopping that generational talent. That's when we
look at the guys we go, that's a first ballot
Hall of Famer. That's what I always say. That's how
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I described I go, did he change your game plan?
Did you walk into that meeting room and go, all right,
what's our plan from Aaron Donald?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Every play?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
What's our plan for JJ Watt, whoever it is, whatever
edge rush are you gonna talk about?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
You know, what's our plan for Von Miller?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
What's our plan for Max Crosby, t J Watt, Miles Garrett,
Micah Parsons, what's our plan run blocking?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Pass pro? Every play?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Like when that's at the NFL level, because you only
have a few of those guys, like we we tend
to sometimes over exaggerate certain players. Well they're really good players,
but it's all right, we'll leave it one on one.
You know, we're like, we're not that's a good quarterback.
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All right, We're still gonna throw our you know, one
on one go round against them, We're not scared.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Of that guy.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
So I think they drastically overestimated their ability to recruit,
develop and find like these diamond and the rough guys
that we're gonna make a difference. And that's why their
team lacks so much talent compared to everyone else. And
then see, I just I don't know, maybe they're not
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made for this this game. You know, as far as
the college football level.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I think it was going to take time, certainly. I mean, listen,
what Dion was able to do. I think a lot
of things, A lot of factors had to play a
part in how that kind of played out, and which,
by the way, it wasn't the greatest of successes, right,
it didn't turn out to be, you know, them making
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the College Football Playoff or anything like that, or winning
their conference. But I think he did create a hope
and a measuring stick to be able to do what
it is that he was able to do. But keep
in mind, Dion was at Jackson State the first what
two years, I believe, so he you know, it was
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relatively obscure in the sense that it wasn't major college
football that he was coaching. When he first went to
college to coach for Bill Belliche. I think a lot
of what you're saying is is definitely like on point.
Like I think he felt as though we could come
in run this thing like an NFL franchise. I'd be
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in control of it, and we're going to bring in Uh.
We have this unlimited amount of talent, a wealth of
talent that we can draw from in the transfer portal.
So I'm gonna get rid of all the bad, all
the old, and I'm gonna bring in all the new,
all the things that I feel good about. The Only
thing is I just wonder in that estimation, when you
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went to, you know, replace what you had in the
transfer portal. There's two there's two different types of transfer
portal guys. In my estimation, one is out of necessity.
They they we'll say three, I'll say three. One is
out of success, out of necessity, you know, something something happened,
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they wanted to be close or the home, adad so
on and so forth. Coaches left one of those type
deals they went into the portal, don't know what's next.
The other one is it's a higher gun, and whether
people want to admit it or not, there's the ones
that go into the portal because they were advised to
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go into the portal because they have a deal looming,
and that's generally going to be probably your best player
that goes into the portal. But the chances of you
getting the best talent that goes into the transfer portal
is slim to none because they already have an idea
of what their deal is going to be and where
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they're going to go to play at their next school.
Unless there's a negotiation takes it the different to the
next place. But you're negotiating for that player. And then
the third one is just a guy that's second, third
on the depth chart, fourth on the depth chart. I
don't feel as though they're going to be good enough
to play at the place that they're at, and they
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want to get a new start, want to go somewhere else.
Could be like a fifty year senior, could be younger,
doesn't matter, but they're going to transfer because of one
reason or another. I don't think I'm going to play here,
the coaches don't like me, whatever, whoopedy woo. They go
into the transfer portal. I wonder how many from the
categories did North Carolina get Because I know for certain,
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one of the guys that they got from Penn State.
He wasn't an elite guy for Penn State. He definitely
was not a guy, but nonetheless they took him in
the portal and he became a part of their team.
I just wonder when you're doing because in some cases
this could be considered to be patchwork, you know, patch
(18:48):
up work, and sometimes you don't get an opportunity to
see how good a coach can be, including Bill Belichick,
until they have a little bit of time to integrate
and implement. I was just saying this. I had conversation
with coach Franklin yesterday. Mind you you know where you know,
there's a lot of heat coming down on the coaching staff,
(19:08):
on the coordinators, as it should, but this is this
is Jim Knowles's first season there, and he does run
a very complex pro style type of defense where it's
a very large playbook and can be confusing and daunting
to a college student. I wonder if that's an idea,
if that's a part of this, you know, is the
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scheme a daunting scheme? Is it a pro scheme where
you need time for guys to implement and integrate into
what it is that the playbooks look like on both
sides of the ball. I'm not sure certain what it is,
but I would hate for it to be the one
reason that you stated or cited that he doesn't care.
(19:49):
I would hate for that to be the reason, and that,
to me, would be the only reason for conclusion of
thinking that you want to buy out. Right, Like I
chose to come here coach that college. I don't really
like it. I don't feel good about the way this
feels for me as a college coach. So yeah, I'm
okay with a buyout. I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It seems like there's been so much surrounding the program
that you know, you can dismiss one report like yeah, yeah, whatever,
that's just bs, and then you can dismiss like they
can't just be making this stuff up, like clearly there's issues, Clearly,
there's concerns. Clearly it's not going well, Like there's got
(20:33):
to be some sort of either buyer's remorse or regret
going on there from either just North Carolina or both
North Carolina and Bill Belichick. And yet caught in the
middle are all those guys and we kind of kicked
it around yesterday, like man Mike Lombardi's telling donors and
everybody like, yeah, we're focused on the freshman class. Who's
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to say when it comes time for the portal in
January the freshman classes, and like, I gotta go, I can't.
There's too much going on here and it's it's kind
of sad to see that. This is what I mean,
you know this, We're talking the greatest coach of all
time and this is where we're at. And I don't
know if he just wanted to get back in so
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bad that he didn't think it all the way through.
But you just go back to had a second interview
with Atlanta, had an opportunity to get the Falcons job,
it didn't go well, and then was not interviewed the
next year. And I don't know if it was a
panic move, but jumped into this and it's been a disaster.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Man, Like it has not gone well.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Somebody in Atlanta tak about we dodged a bullet dog.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Let me have that. There's my question, what does this
but what does this do to this legacy? Does it
touch it? Does it hurt it? I mean, what does
it do.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I think it's a I think it's a blip. And
I think it's a blit. It's like, oh, LT, how
did LT finish his career? Does anybody know that he
tore an achilles tendent? Like I don't know that people
would ever mention that Lawrence Taylor tore his Achilles tendant
and the way he ended his career wasn't it wasn't
you know at the level that the LT we got
(22:15):
to know. I think it's just a blip on his radar.
It's it'll be a cliff note, it'll be a side note,
like it'll be a trivia. Did you know that this
coach went to a college after pros and had a
girlfriend that was ninety years younger than him, and it
just it'd just be a blip on the on his
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resume radar. I don't think it does anything to hurt
his legacy.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It lends credence to the he couldn't do it without Brady,
And and that's probably an issue that without Brady, this
is what it was. Because now now you've got bookends,
you've got the time before the Patriots, and then you've
got the time with the pay after Brady and then
you've got this like it did. Like that's where I
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think this is kind of a bad look for it.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I will go a step further.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
If you think about some of the Super Bowls and
the impact that he directly had on them, like sitting out.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Malcolm Butler, maybe they would have won more without Bill.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
It sounds crazy to say, but now looking at all
this and to your point, life after Tom Brady, New England,
life after Tom Brady, even in college, life before Tom
Brady in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
It's kind of wild to say.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But again, I don't think there's a problem with asking
the question and having the thought of maybe they would
have won more if Bill wasn't a part of the picture.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
And there was.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Nick Saban made a comment about he kind of criticized
the Patriots handling of Mac Jones based on Mac Jones'
performance with Kyle Shanahan and it's like that's his guy,
like Belichick's guy, and Belichick was largely responsible for that,
the fallout of Mac Jones. And we're talking about Joe
Shane and Brian Dayball and what it looks like when
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those guys leave there and they have success, and if
Mac Jones keeps dealing with the Niners Like that's another
one that you're gonna look back on and go, how'd
they f that up? Like he had potential and the
OC decisions and all it just, yeah, it's not gone well.
Last five years have not been great for him at all.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I will push back a little bit and say, Brady me, what, Yeah,
that is your younger brother. Damn push a younger yeah?
Uh out without them drafting him and without him getting
the opportunity no matter who drafted him, no matter who
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developed him. It was Bill Belichick's staff, and that was
already a really really dope team that that Brady went to,
Like more so on the defensive side of the ball.
I mean a lot of people don't really give that
New England Patriots defense the type of love and credit
(25:20):
that they're deserving of. But you have Willie McGinnis, who
I believe like it's like the leader in sacks in
postseason something like that. He's like close to the leader
or is the leader in sacks and postseason play. You
got Ty law who's a Hall of Famer. From that defense,
(25:41):
you had Lawyer malloy.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
As you're not making a case for Bill just because
they're there.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
He had a scouting department too.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, I'm making the point that that's his staff
though it's his staff, so he's never left and did anything.
I understand that. But they did it as at New England.
They they whatever it is, that the magic that they created.
And listen, you can you could play the contrary inside
of it, or you could play the pro side of
(26:09):
it like I I You could go either way, but
I'm I'm going to say that's his staff. Whoever he
whoever he trusted and hired to be a part of
what he did. He delegated those those duties to the
people who did it, and they did it at the
level of where they had all those Super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So I think it's hard. It's Hardo changed over the years. Yeah,
it's it's hard to play the staff.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But once you've I would say, once you experienced the
level of success, and it's gonna change, right Romeo Crenell
Lev like Patricia Lev you know, McDaniel left like you're
gonna lose guys due to success, and they didn't do
very well once they left left New England. But with
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that being said, I think once you're it's just like Alabama.
Once you're in you're enjoying the type of success that
a program is having. People are going to come and go,
but your system is in place. And I think his
system in place yielded him a return of a ton
of success for the duration of time that it did.
(27:20):
The well ran draft, you know, the milk went bad.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Tom Brady left and everything fell apart.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It was starting to go, it was starting to go
bad before Tom left.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
It's always players before plays, man, it always has.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Good I always agree. I don't disagree with that. I
don't disagree with that, but I would just say I
still would take that into consideration that you had to
bring him in. And I mean that dude went so
late in the draft. It's not like you could sit
there and be like, all right, we knew that Tom
Brady was going to become the best football player to
(27:55):
ever play the game.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I mean that's even more damning is you can't take
credit for something that like you fell.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Into m I don't know, I could see. I could
see the perspective of it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
It's like buying a lot of ticket making a bunch
of millions and being like, yeah, I'm a great business man.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's like, no, you would and bought a lot of ticket.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's it's not an apples as you would say. It's
not an apples to apples comparison, because when you think
about you got a scout guys and sometimes the best players.
I mean, I don't know how many players that are unrestricted.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Here's the God's truth to the most coaches general managers
are not that involved in.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
The sixth seventh round.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It's usually assistant coaches of the guys who've actually done
a lot of the grunt work scouting with the scouts.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I mean, it's a higher staff that they're focused on.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I like, it's still their staff, though, like take credit
for it being his staff.
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It took place over the last twenty four hours. We'll
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Speaker 11 (31:13):
Well one, two, swim, strike three, screaming flecks from Hoffman.
The Blue Jays hard back in the ALCS for the
first time since twenty sixteen. They down the Yankees in
their own yard and they're the first team in Baseball's
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Speaker 2 (31:54):
But yeah, Yankees are gone. That's a wrap that'll do
it for the the New York.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yankees who were in a World Series last year and
are now out in the Alds unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I do have a bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Question for you guys.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Okay, okay, do you believe that the Red Sox fans
were rooting for the Blue Jays in that series.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
No idea.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I do know this. That result is not good for TV.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It's not good for TV. I know that that's that's
the direction that I was going to go. It's not
a good not a good result for TV.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Because it just says something to believe that they were.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Now you're going to root against your your rivals even
though you're going to root for your rivals opponent.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Even though they're from another country. Yeah, so loyalty to
the country is secondary to loyalty to.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
The Loyalty to your country supersedes sports. Okay, but the
Blue Jays from Toronto, right, So you don't have to like,
I'm not comparing my loyalty or weighing my loyalty of
our country based off of wanting a team to beat
the team that I hate. Like, I don't care if
the team was from Africa, I would want them to
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beat up on Dallas Cowboys. Mike closed, I would mean
I could have said Europe. That would sound a little boring.
I got people's attention when I said Africa. You know
what I mean?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Anyway?
Speaker 5 (33:21):
I didn't get TV network's attention that either.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm just being funny,
but yeah, I think that it has nothing to do
with what with your patriotism. It has everything to do
with your hate for for the team that you hate
and you want that team to lose. Period.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
By the way, if the Dodgers end up slipping up
in Game four, panic Panic Brothers are.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Coming out, right, are they coming out?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, Pats?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
What did the Panic Brothers sound like? You always reference that.
I have no idea what that means.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So petros And is a radio partner Matt money Smith, Like,
they'll just stir the pot because Dodger fans.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
So what does that sound like? Dude, you're describing now
you're doing an impression.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well I'm not.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
I can't do an impression. But what's said that we can?
We can't can we can't sign onto this.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I can't impersonate petros I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Pal, whatever you want, Pal, he's one of the It
is a great title, though, good time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Because the thing about Major League Baseball in the playoffs
is that you're on the edge of your seat for
every single pitch. That when things like Kershaw got absolutely
lit on fire last night, and Dodger fans are like watching, going,
what the f that might have been his final appearance
at Dodger Stadium and he got torched, And so that's
(34:42):
this first seed that gets planted. If they lose Game
four coming up later, then all of a sudden, that's
the next one.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
And then you've got a panic plant growing. And if
they get to.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Game five with everything on the line in back in Philadelphia,
Petros matter just going to feed it, like they're just
they're gonna and they're gonna get everybody going, and they're
gonna get stressed out. And if God forbid, the Phillies
come back and win that series. To Brady's point, now
you're out the Yankees and now you're out the Dodgers
in the playoffs. Not great, what's the likelihood of that happening?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Better after last night? Better after last night.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
But yeah, there's you know, probably people not thrilled with
the results of what took place, unless you're a Red
Sox fan and you don't care about the country, Like
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Speaker 4 (38:12):
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a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
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Speaker 1 (38:26):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
off top of next hour a little over ten minutes
from now. There's a team in the NFL. It's making moves.
They're not not any good, but they're making moves. We'll
get into the latest move they've made coming up here
a little over ten minutes from now. A reminder though,
before we get to another edition of in case you
(38:46):
missed it, with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us
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we'll always pop up at the top of your screen.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
For that, we turn it over to our executive producer
for today, the one and only Patrick sweek.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Boy makes a.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Boy, it's your boy.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
What's going on? Everybody?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Alright?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What a.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You know what is up? Agase?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You can't you can't control his last You can't control
that's fat, his biggest fly.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You can't control his laugh. I'm sorry, I'm laughing that.
Oh boy? Sweet lord?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
All right, guys, come on, all right, So we got
NBA guys.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
So in case you missed it, Jannisnte Tokumpo has been.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
In a lot of trade rumors, you know, just for
the past literally ever the last couple of years. So
this one's new where well, he's saying that I'm locked
into the team right now for the Milwaukee Bucks. But
he did say he revealed that his mind could in
fact change. He's gonna give them six or seven months,
and he feels if the team is not hitting that
(40:42):
direction by that point in time, he may start looking elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
So what would we call this? Like the spring sweeps?
The spring sweeps? No one's I just see myself out.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's always something like there's just always something like nobody
nobody's ever happy in the NBA. They're always all about
the next move. What's the next move? What's what are
they going to do?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Is with the salary contracts. I'm just come on, man,
they got all the leverage, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I don't know. I don't know what six months means.
I just know that Milwaukee is they they gone, they go.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
But you got the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
They had their they had their opportunity and they had
their moment in time.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
You got the Packers, Yeah, I mean they I'm.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Just saying for the Bucks. They they were able to
bring a championship there. And Johann has had a great
run of being the m v P in the league
and has established himself as as a max contract guy.
So he's done everything he needs to do. But Milwaukee
they done. That's that's a rap on them being a
(41:56):
competitor or contender.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
It's a rap are We got one more here for you, guys.
So we're gonna stay in the NBA. So All Star
Game do we have to? I guess? So in case
you missed it, guys, the NBA will still not move
the All Star.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Game out of l A.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
Uh, you know, with the whole because it's going to
be in the Clippers Stadium, not the Lakers side. But
with the whole Clipper investigation going on, they're not moving
the All Star Game out of LA. They're going to
keep it there still.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
Wait, wait, so they're dividing up for the All Star
Game the side of that arena.
Speaker 7 (42:29):
No, no, no, I'm saying the Clippers Stadium, the new
the new Clippers into it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Does it's better than Crypto from what I hear. I mean,
it's supposed to be the probably real nice.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'm not a big fan of the You walk in
and there's facial recognition when you walk into a like
a mini Martin inside the.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Stadium, and you know, why don't you like that?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
It's just it's very invasive.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
What you're trying to hide? Yeah, nobody's database you I mean,
there were no databases when you came to the Earth.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Wait, why try to hide vampire.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Hey, why are you sweating me? Bar, They're all be like,
whit he sweat for years.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
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