October 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by reacting to Penn State head coach James Franklin being fired after 12 seasons with the program. Next, the guys discuss Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin throwing shade at the Browns following his comments on the Joe Flacco trade. Finally, they dive into the situation at UNC and the future of head coach Bill Belichick. Tune in for all that and much more!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and
myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays
six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local
station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us
(00:22):
live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR
give this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Tuesday edition, of course, we're gonna have
Dean Blandino stop by. There's all sorts of questions we
got about some of the rules, some of the infractions,
some of the penalties called in the NFL and college football.
This weekend, we're also going to have a conversation about
(00:56):
double barrel action in the NFL. On Monday Night football
Bear's win. Was it a statement win for Ben Johnson
and what he's trying to pull off there in Chicago?
The Atlanta Falcons get it done. Bjon Robinson potentially the
best player in the NFL according to his head coach,
and are the Bills concerned? Plus Mike Tomlin's concern about
(01:17):
what the hell the Cleveland Browns are doing. We're also
going to have the very latest on the search for
a head coach in state college as well as Nashville.
All of a sudden, all of it is yours coming
up next here. It's two Pros and a cup of
Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You found love helmvar So listen closely. Sh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Issues Man, I didn't say conder man? An you right though?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Cuz dang.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Fox Sports Radio, Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
By the way, be sure to check out our brand
new YouTube channel for the show. Just search two pros
FSR on YouTube again. That's two pros FSR. Be sure
to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there at the
thumbs up icon. Comment away, let us know who on
the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong.
But checking out our new channel on YouTube again, just
(02:18):
search two pros FSR and subscribe.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So uh so uh so uh it's Jonas Knox here
Penn State.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you're really going to do it? Huh? We're still there. Huh.
Well I'm still doing this, still doing that. Huh.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Penn State is looking for a coach and lot going
on there. Pat Craft is talking about, you know, James
Franklin's record in big games being a problem, that they're
there to win national championships, very fired up. And then
you've got Matt Ruhle, former teammate of LeVar Arrington, now
the head coach of Nebraska, who, of course you knew
(02:56):
was going to be asked about the situation yesterday, and
so here what does the now Nebraska head coach, Matt
Ruhle talking about his fondness for his alma mater and
also where he stands with Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I love Penn State.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I met my wife. There's Milema Mater fan since I
was born. I was born I think probably at a
Penn State shirt where I was born. I love Pat
Craft and I'm really sad, really sad to see coach
Franklin go. When you think about what he did for
mile Ma Mater. You know the program was in peril, right,
I mean, if people remember, like the historic sanctions that
(03:31):
you could transfer out and could do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Bill O'Brien comes in.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Stabilizes it for two years. James takes over a program
in disarray and gives stability excellence. You know, see videos
of people like yelling at his kids, And I just
don't understand why in our country like well now, like
coaches are villains, Like you know how hard I worked
in Carolina and the things that were said to me
are you know how hard I work here? And some
of the things that are said, you know, our coaches
work here. Howard Satt worked last year. So I'm just
(03:55):
really sad about that part of it. I came here
for two reasons. I love the community here and wanted
to live here, and I love it here, and I
wanted to rebuild Nebraska football and Troy and I understand
the steps that you need to take to make us
Big Ten champions and national champions. This this place is elite.
I'm not going to talk a lot about job openings
when they come. Maybe it's been a while here, but
this is what happens when you win. I've dealt with it,
(04:16):
you know, We've won a temple, and I dealt with
it all the time dealt with Baylor. I'm not going
to talk about those things ever. I'm not going to
talk about my contract here. I'm going to talk about
the team. Yeah. I absolutely love it here, and I
just wanted I want us to continue to take the
steps needed for us to turn this thing into a
beast and players all across the country you want to
come here. We have the best facilities, we have elite fans,
and I'm just looking.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
At the future.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So it feels like this would be the one, like
if there was going to be like this feels like
a dream job for Matt Rule if he decided he
wanted to take it based on his comments about the program.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So what c not my albleter? You got it? You
got this? No, you always not true.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
That is not true.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Let's don't do this to me. Let's bring them home, Bar,
Let's bring him. Come on, bar, what y'all would come on?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Bar?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And me for why are you?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Why are you putting this on me?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's let's hear what you have to say.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Cut all right, and I'll say things I've told of
are behind the scenes, Like look, I think I think
hiring a coach who has previous experience at a school,
either as a student, but always better as a player,
(05:43):
is really important. And the reason why I said this
is because I think college football is more tribal, it's
more cultural than any other sport. And we can call
it professional sport however you want to describe where college
football is at.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's just the reality of it. Okay.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
People attach a really important, amazing part of their life
to that school because of the maturation process that happens
through it. So there's just a more a stronger feeling
towards that school, towards their alma mater. And so I
think someone who's got the perspective having gone through it,
(06:22):
it helps them understand exactly what they're signing up for.
You know, we just talked about Brian Callahan getting fired
with the Tennessee Titans when he signed that contract, when
he decided to become the head coach of the Tennessee Titans.
I guarantee you right now, all the thoughts going through
his head are drastically different than what was said to him,
(06:43):
what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Going into it less than two years ago.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
And I think when you've got the perspective of again
a coach who has played there been there, and he
goes back to his alma mater for example. In this case,
it helps him understand all the powers that be, what
that fan base is going to be like, you know, win, lose, etc.
All those things. He understands the recruiting landscape. There's just
(07:10):
so many things that it makes it a bit easier
in ways. But also it helps you get off on
the right foot right out the gate. You know you're
not having someone jump into a program that doesn't feel
like the right fit. And I say this being a
guy from Columbus, Ohio who watched John Cooper, who was
(07:32):
a Southern who come up to the Midwest, and it
just felt like it was never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
John Cooper was a really good coach.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Won a lot of football games.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
He's a Hall of Fame coach by the way in
college football, but he ultimately couldn't beat Michigan enough. He
ultimately couldn't win enough bowl games and get Ohio State
to where it needed to go. And watch Jim Trestle
when he was able to do that, and by the wait,
Jim trest was someone who understood the landscape like I
was there on a recruiting visit when he walked into
(08:01):
Saint John's Arena and he's literally said to the crowd,
We're gonna make you proud X amount of days, which
were the days leading up to that game against Michigan.
Like he knew right out the gate what he needed
to do and what he needed to say, and then
he catched the world on fire. I don't think his
first year, but but after that it became that right.
(08:25):
So my general point is, would Matt Rule be a
good fit for Penn State? Of course? You know, I
think you look at what he's done every third year
he's been with a college program, Temple, Baylor, now Nebraska.
You know, his first year five and seven. You know,
next year was seven and six. I believe now they
five to one, and when you really look at their schedule,
(08:48):
they could be eleven and one with the way this
thing's going so far and and what their schedule looks like.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So once again year three building it up.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
And I know it didn't work with the Carolina Panthers,
but quite honestly, like who is it really working for there?
With Carolina? My concern in this hire is, you know,
he hasn't been able to beat a top twenty five
team since he's gotten to Nebraska, like he hasn't been
able to win that kind of big game.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And that's exactly the issue.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
With why James Franklin is no longer there. Not only
could he not win that game, but then it became
an issue of you know, losing the UCLA, losing the
northwester or kind of a snowball effect. But that's the question,
like you're trying to answer, and so that is a
little bit of a concern. But I also, you know,
don't want to limit you know, what Matt Rule could
(09:43):
potentially do with the resources of everything else he has there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, again, there's a.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Lot of football if we played Matt Rule's got a again,
a team that may be biting for a playoff spot
in Nebraska. Sounds crazy to say, but it could be.
And so we'll see how things play out over the
course of the year. But to me, he would definitely
be one of the names that I would go after,
one of the names that makes a lot of sense
as far as a fit of the next head coach
(10:08):
at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You know, Matt and Pat have worked together before that.
You know, he was he was Pat. Pat was Matt's
a d I want to say at Temple, I believe
that that's where that's correct.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They cracked up.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And as far as as far as I'll just say
what I feel about Matt from my perspective, I won't
turn it into like this, this is the guy that's getting
hired or anything like that. I would just say what
what my understanding of Matt Rule is. He's an interesting
(10:43):
He's an interesting one because success has never changed him.
You know, He's if you were to meet Matt Rule
twenty years ago and you're hanging out with Matt Rule today,
you would think that being a head coach some of
the most prominent programs, even making it to the National
(11:04):
Football League, to be a head coach, you be a
little you'd be different. You know changes you. Success changes
you power, positions of power. They have the power of
changing you. And Matt Rule has never changed. He has
always been the dude that you see and you give
him the biggest hug, the biggest embrace, and you catch
(11:26):
up just like you didn't miss any time. So I
would say one, I've never met anyone who has had
anything ever bad to say about Matt Rule, not one person. Secondly,
I would say one of my interesting observations during my time,
(11:49):
you know, going to Penn State. I've never like when
Joe was coaching, our sideline was littered with guys that
played for Joe Paturna. Know, you didn't see that with
with Coach Franklin. You would see some guys from Coach
(12:10):
Franklin's days of coaching there, but there was not a
oh my gosh, like there's like one hundred two hundred,
you know whatever, it is, like crazy amount of lettermen
that are on the sideline. Recently, they there's been a real,
I guess, a real action to try to create that
(12:30):
and bring guys back. I don't know that you would
have that problem with Matt rule. And I'm not sure
how the Franklin the Franklin former players would view it
or see it, how they would handle things or how
they're going to handle things. But I know for certain,
(12:50):
you know, guys from the Joe Paterno era would probably
come back. They would come back around. There's a strong
possibility that supporters of Joe Paterno. And if you know
the Penn State politics, I call Penn State Rome. You
have the Senate, you have you know, you have the Emperor.
(13:12):
You you know you have the Caesar or whatever you have.
You have a lot of different levels of people doing
things and positions of power or positions of privilege, whatever
you want to call it. You have that set up
at Penn State, and a lot of people are gatekeepers,
(13:32):
and so it gets pretty interesting being able to navigate
from one place to another without somebody gatekeeping it and
making it difficult. Whether you work there or whether you're
a fan or whatever it may be, it's just weird.
It's a It's an interesting way of how culture is handled.
I think a guy that's familiar with what how the
(13:54):
mob works, you know, how how different different aspects of
intern on how things work, would be a benefit. Now,
how much of that does Matt Rule know at this point,
I don't know. Is he familiar with it one hundred percent?
So there is the politics side of it that if
(14:15):
you bring someone in and they don't understand whoever the
guy is that comes in, he has to understand or
or get up to speed very quickly on the landscape
of what Penn State represents, because if you do not
take that into serious consideration, your time will be it
(14:36):
will be very very limited, just because of the intensity
of the fan base, it'll be it'll be pretty, it
may be short lived. So I just think I think
Matt Rule is a guy that that again he can
unite instead of creating division. I just don't know if
(14:58):
it's a great like it always sounds it is great
to bring an alumni back, a guy who knows it
Da da da. I just wonder is there is there
are there drawbacks to that as well, Like you know,
I don't. I would never want to do it because
the same people that are are the ones that love
you now and have cheered you on through the years
(15:18):
and stuff like that. Get to some losing games, get
to a losing season and you'll be like, wait, wait,
like you you had my autograph on your jersey and
you're you're sitting there saying fire me, Like, I don't
want to go through those type of It's.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Wild, right, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I would never want to go through those mental emotional
gymnastics as to how can you go from loving me
to hating me?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
And dude, we used to play in this bookstore basketball
tournament at Notre Dame. It's it's I mean claim to
be the largest outdoor five on five basketball tournam in
the world. There's like some five hundred and six hundred teams.
It's any student, faculty, employee of the of the university.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Anyone could play in it. You can't play for.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
More than one team, but like there's all these different
rules and it goes on during the spring, like the
entire spring semester.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And I remember going from our spring game.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Like people are cheering you on you're at your spring game,
to then going to the basketball court and all these
dudes are talking trash and I'm like, what the what
in the world, Like what is going on? It always
it always gave me the perspective of like everyone loves
you until things aren't going the way that they want
(16:34):
them to go or you even you want them to go.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And the reality is, too is fans aren't your friends.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
And I think there's too often times players get, you know,
that confused because of you know, the love that they
get at times, and then the backlash that they'll receive
is that they're not friends. They're just fans. You know,
they like the team. They're gonna like the team after
you're there. They liked it before you got there. So
you have to have the proper perspective. But I'm really
(17:01):
curious to get Jonas's two cents on this, because I
think he's got he's got a little sit by the way,
going back to the big games for Matt rule, Matt
rule is not beaten, and I believe my research is
correct in this case. His record versus ranked teams is
two and twenty three, and it actually dates back to
his wins versus top twenty five teams.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He got one over.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
But state, well, it comes down to Temple.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I mean, like, you know, bad, bad record against top
teams sounds familiar. It feels like that that was the
problem last time. But my question for Lebar is this,
and then.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We want to take Yeah, we want we want to
ask why you an Annie up?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
First, give us your take. Then you're gonna ask some question.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
How what is pat Craft's standing within the program? Is
he love there? Does he yet like? Is he on
steady ground? Is there any conversation about pat Craft?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Potentially?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Ad?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah? No, he's good. Okay, he's good, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So if that's if that's the case, then let him
do what he sees fit for the program. Let him
go with the direction he wants to go with somebody
he's confident in somebody he has a relationship with somebody
who knows the program the way he does, and let
him do what it takes to bring in Matt Rule.
And if they're let him do what it takes to
bring in that rule. Like if he can, if he
can bring.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You've already concluded that he should bring in that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No not rule because Signette's a p A guy Okay, Pittsburgh,
but he's yeah, but he's not a Matt Rule PA
guy who was went to high school and state college.
Walked on Joas was a grad assistant after he left
state college.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Bring in Matt Rule, bring back he was. He was
like a grad assistant. He was like not a grad assistant,
but he was like a manager. You know.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's how he got on the team. Like the story
of him getting on the team is, Wow, he's a
walk on because if the way that you present it
is Joe didn't even want him to try out, and
he kept begging and begging and begging. They finally allowed
him to try out. The dude tries out and makes
the team. We like we were rag dolling Matt Rule,
(19:15):
rag dolling him and warm up and end period and
stuff like that. Dude found a way to make it
on the field as a special team specialist. Dude was
making plays on special teams like his His story's pre phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So it's kind Yes, so he was rudy, except it
wasn't embellished.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Dang.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, I don't know about all that, but but God like,
go finish your point.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
My thought is, if it can be done, make it happen.
If he's open to it, make it happen. And if
there's a Nebraska fan out there that looks at this
and has any sort of an issue with Matt Rule
wanting to take the gig, this feels like a dream opportunity,
a you know, come full circle moment for Matt Rule,
for his wife we met the I think this is
(20:01):
the one that he would look at and go, I'm
a stand up guy, you know, I love Nebraska. But
this opportunity is too good to pass up. And if
they if pat crafts on steady ground there and they
trust his direction with the team, with the program, with
athletics in general, then let him do what it takes
to bring.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Home that rule, that would be my move.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Was your question the pack Craft questions, So you asked
the question first, anyway, is that what you did there?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, you're a jerk.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I just wanted to know. And also, when you say
that a lot of the old time players weren't hanging
out around the program, was that that James Franklin wasn't
open to that or they just didn't view him.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
It doesn't feel like James would be the type of
coach to do that, like he Yeah, I don't know
that that is that my choice?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't. I probably would say it's by choice. Do
you think that.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Maybe some of the older guys are just like, man,
it's so damn hard to get in there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, I'm not dealing with that. That airport sucks because.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean, can I be honest?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Can I be honest?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The first thing I do as the head coach of
Penn State when I take over, is I am lobbying.
I don't know if it's a state, I don't know
who I need to lobby of the county. I'm making
that airport bigger. The fact that the team has to
drive to Harrisburg to fly out is ridiculous. And also
(21:26):
give yourself a chance to have I don't care which airline,
but find a partner, lobby, the lobby the state local
government to make that airport bigger, to make it even easier.
On recruiting, like you guys haven't been able to get
like really great blue chip wide receivers. There's been some guys,
Don't get me wrong. John Dotson is like the most
(21:48):
recent kind of comes to mind. So there's others. But
the reality is, as far as recruiting goes, the easier
you make it to get to a school for the
player and the parent, the easier it is for them
to make that decision. Like that is one of the
first things that I have no idea why that hasn't changed.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That's not why changed. That is the reason. You could
say it's not why. But if no, it's not. I'm
not talking about recruits.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You guys ask me why Letterman don't don't don't come
ome No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
All I'm saying is, though every single person that's a
Penn State of lum fan recruit what have you, they
would literally look at the coach and say thank you,
thank God, like thank god someone finally like brought me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You're not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Look, I'll be transparent. I said this to LeVar.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I was like, they need somebody who can bring you
into the twenty first century with how things are done.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now this is one of them. That's so funny.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We just we just started updating hotel rooms like now no,
but literally this year was like like like the last
couple of years has been the first times that we've
started updating things like like let's just say, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hotel and go oh whatever.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
It changes the entire experience, It changes haged mind.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I've been going there for years.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The amis the Amish rolled through on a horse and
buggy like hit it together.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Bro the hotel I went.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I stayed at the hotel that I stayed in when
I was a player at Penn State the night before games.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I went there a couple of times and was
staying there and on.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
God, outside of the TV, everything was the couches, the carpet,
everything was the same, like your artwork on the walls,
every single thing that the Primanni rapper you left there
twenty years ago with stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right there in the corner, right there in the corner.
Missed it. They missed it.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Telling you, man, they need to update that whole thing,
like they and I'll compare it to not.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And they are we are we are by the way.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, but even the airport in the sense of all
that just how you can go about doing it.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
But like Notre Dame, there was a kind of a
divide between Notre Dame the actual campus and then South Bend,
and I would say over the last like kind of
fifteen years ish, there has been more of a partnership
and then how they're trying to kind of revamp and
just make it safer, better for everyone involved, and everyone
wins in that case in a happy value.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm not saying that they have same issues.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
But there's definitely some similar things that they could do
to help make life easier on whoever that next head
coach is. All the fans, alumni, students, all that stuff,
even faculty, like all that stuff could be could be improved.
And I know people are like, why the hell are
you talking about this with the head coach, because literally
usually the head coach of that football program is the
(24:43):
top paid employee of the state. Like there's no one
who's gonna be paid more than Ryan Day and the
state of Ohio, there's no one's gonna be paid more
than the head coach at Penn State in the entire state.
So that's the person that's got that the actually voice,
the platform, the lobbying power to actually do it. So
(25:04):
that's why I bring that up because and it makes
a monumental change. Go look at Teatown, go ahead, and
Tuscaloosa when Nick Sabn first got there and what it
is now that entire place is transformed. Yes, success plays
a role in that, but his understanding of the bigger
picture played a role in that too, and it's one
of the reasons why they're still to this day recruiting
their ass off.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with that. I think
just going back to the simple, you know, response to
the question, I just think that guys want to feel
comfortable about where they're going, and regardless of where the
not the discomfort of it comes from.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I just know there's always been the undercurrent the conversations
of Joe Paterno era versus the New era of time.
I don't know why it turned into a thing, but
it did, and and it was always something that was
hanging over James Franklin's head. I find it to be
(26:08):
kind of petty and was unnecessary and still will continue
to be unnecessary. How how someone like Matt rule would
be received, I'm not sure I think it would be
a better situation, But there's always those ones, including Jay,
you know, Jay Paterno, Joe's son, that they they make
(26:31):
it a point to continue to flame and and create
a fire or keep the fire burning of there being
like this divide between the the Joe Paterno era and
the era of Penn State moving forward, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I don't know what they want.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know what that represents, but it has been
a determining factor in how people view the program, the
people involved in it, and at some point that's got
to come to an end. So there are bigger issues
that have to be addressed. But it'll be interesting to
see if the person they choose, outside of a Matt Ruhle,
who would probably understand how to navigate it. Outside of that,
(27:14):
would a Kurt Signette be able to do it? Like
would other guys be able to come in there and
navigate it, because that's a major part of what these guys,
you know, what.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
James Franklin had to navigate. Yeah, just don't hire a tool.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Speaking of which, get tools to perform at the highest
level on every job without compromise. When you shop Makda
at the home depot, when the job calls for the best,
call on Makda built to be the best available at
the home depot, How pros get more done?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Coming up next here, you're going to hear one coach
be very critical of a rival inside his division.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That will be yours here at FSR.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, you know what you can put on rivals, some
hot sauce, and you know what you do, Yeah, eat
them up. You know what I mean, Like, eat them
rivels right on up. If it tastes real good. You know,
food always tastes better when you win. Drinks are colder,
you know. But that hot sauce, man, it's a vibe,
and oh yeah, better be that original Louisiana hot sauce
because nothing brings that heat like your team getting that dub,
(28:11):
and nothing brings that flavor like that bold, hand crafted
kick straight out of Louisiana. That's right, it's that peppery
peppers kick, that vinegar kick, that salt kick from our
Louisiana flavor masters who have been blending perfectly for almost
one hundred years. It'll turn every good meal into a
(28:32):
great meal, and every great meal into a party. On
your plate, Nacho, Who's burgers, wings, you name, it doesn't matter.
Hit it with that original Louisiana Hot sauce after a
Sunday win or Saturday or Friday, and suddenly it's unbeatable,
like a touchdown. Dance on your tongue. And hey, if
(28:53):
your team didn't pull off a win this week, don't
worry about it. Pour some on anyway. It'll help ease
the pain. That's right, is what we call a victory formation.
On your taste buds, Lorena, the only original Louisiana Hot
sauce can get that done. So make sure it's Louisiana Hot.
You know, bye you.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
So be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Hi.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
This is Jay.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.
Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to
the show. I'm here to ask you Please don't listen
to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who
have the dumbest takes on sports magible. Don't listen to
the show so it can get Camper, get.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Him, Paully, Ignore that fool.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeart Radio
app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's still moving. Two pros and a couple of Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up in just a couple of moments
from now, we're going to tell you about well, there's
a coach in the NFL doesn't really understand what a
rival is doing. We'll get into that for you here
on FSR. By the way, at the home Depot, Makita
tools are built for the pros who show up early
with tools built to last job after job, year after year.
(30:20):
When the job calls for the best, call them Makita
available at the home Depot. How pros get more done.
So the Steelers and the Bengals will face off this Thursday.
That'll be your kickoff too. Week seven in the NFL,
and Mike Tomlin is still trying to figure out why
the Cleveland Browns traded Joe Flacco inside the division.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I totally agreed. I'm like, I totally agreed that when
it happened.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Is this the most common sense like way of summarizing
what happened.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
When we when I saw that that took place, I
think that's the first thing I asked, y'all, why why
would you allow him to go to Cincinnati with all
that talent?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like I take that so the first conversation we had.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So there's multiple ways of cutting this up. Like the
first thing.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
I'd say is you drafted two quarterbacks third and fifth round,
Dylan Gabriel, Shediver Sanders. If you were going to spend
which like goes without saying rookies need the most reps, right,
most development, most practice time, all that, if you were
going to spend the entire offseason all right with by
(31:46):
the way, two guys because they already dealt Picket. So
you had Flacco and Picket, and then you got two
rookies and you're you're doing this whole thing where you're
dividing up all these reps. How does it make any
sense to then waste all that time and energy on
two guys who weren't gonna be there past what week
(32:07):
six in the NFL? Crazy like that in and of itself.
So like, so forget the trade and where Joe Flacco went.
Just think about the fact that you had Picket, you
had Flacco, two guys who are battling to be your
starting quarterback, taking reps away from now to guys who
will be your quarterbacks moving forward for the bulk of
(32:31):
the season.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like that in and of itself.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Like, dude, it happened when I was there in two
thousand and seven, Charlie Frye was our starting quarterback. He
got benched after halftime of week our Week one game
versus Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They traded him after that week.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Do you know, Asinine, that is like to waste all
that time in reps, It's ridiculous, Like it's there's no
different than the conversation we just had about Brian Callahan
that like, if you're gonna wait and just do it
at this point in the season, why not doing the offseason?
Like what is the point? So to me, there's like
(33:11):
that and how ridiculous it is. And then the fact
that you're willing to do it within the division a
team that you know you're going to face later on,
which maybe tells you that's what they think about Flack
at this point. He can't get the job done for them,
I guess. I mean, it's that can be talked about
in its own right, but just it's almost like Mike
Tomlin's sitting there saying to you, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Not a serious organization.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And this is coming from.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
A Browns fan, a former Browns.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Player, But that's the reality of what Browns fans and
the organization's up against in Pittsburgh. A serious organization, a
track record of success once again leading the division, not shocking,
and consistency, whereas Cleveland's been the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Again, I just think Captain Obvious was a part of
what what Mike Tomlin had to say. And again, why
would you allow for him to go to a team
if you're willing to trade for him as the Bengals.
You want to get a hold of him because you
guys need a quarterback because the one you're using right
now isn't helping, isn't working. Why would you allow that
(34:19):
trade to take place? That's I can't. I couldn't get
past that answer for the life of me. But even
if the thought process is, you know, I don't. We
don't take Cleveland seriously, well, you probably take Cincinnati seriously,
and they have a seriously good roster. They just don't
(34:39):
have Joe Burrow right now. So why would you allow
for Joe Flacco, who you've seen prove that he can win,
still go to that team with all that talent and
you're the Browns. That says to me, the Browns have
an old terrier motive, Yes, a different okay, they have
a different agenda, then what the Stealers. The Steelers have
(35:02):
an agenda to try to win a super Bowl and
win the conference and go on to try to win
the division and well back to reverse right and and
Cleveland Browns are what trying to get the number one
overall picks Like, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
There you go. They don't care if they suck.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah, Well, which switch is crazy because when you have
to deal with a team that has that when they
had that type of.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean it's true though, like the Bears, the Jets,
the Browns, like it's the usual suspects.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Again, that's horrible when.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
If you have a team that's that that bad and
that's what they're going for and they're they're sabotaging other
people just for what it is that they're going to
just be bad. Anyway they get the number one overall pick,
they're going to get a quarterback, They're still going to
be bad.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They're going to be bad. So that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You're jacking up other people's opportunities potentially, and you're only
doing that to try to position yourself to get a
number one draft pick. It's not guaranteeing you that the
Cleveland Browns are going to be good or competitive after
they get this number one pick. It's just strange the
Jets and telling Aaron Rodgers, now we don't need you
(36:18):
or better off. You know, in an era where you've
got teams going for it on fourth down, like I
was thinking about this yesterday, actually, in an era where
teams are going for it on fourth down at at
a clip that we've never seen before. The punter in
the NFL has now become less valuable, and the Bears
(36:39):
drafted one with the fourth round pick, Like what sense.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Does that make?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And there was still players on the board. Bucky Irving
was on the board, like there were still players there,
and for some reason they just thought that was the move. Yeah,
we're gonna go take a punter in the fourth round, okay,
And that was I think that was their last pick
of their draft.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Like bat bad teams every year.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
We were talking earlier in the show, we don't know
who the best team in the NFL is, but like
if you yes quickly with without any thought at all,
Oh yeah, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Titans. Yeah we're good.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You know those names just familiar names with the same storyline.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Well, one thing I know for sure is the Browns
better not be sleeping on Joe Flacco, all right, because
you brought a little bit of a spark there. And
speaking of sleep, if you were losing sleep, every time
someone moves in bed, matches from sleep experts, they'll match
you with the temper luks adapt it's temper material absorbs
motion for undisturbed rest. Visit mattress from today and upgrade
(37:42):
to a temper repeting it makes sleep easy.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up next. Somebody's pushing back on some
rumors about their situation in the world of football. You'll
hear it next here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, coming
off top of next. Nowur a little over ten minutes
from now. One last glance back at double barrel action
in the NFL last night on Monday Night Football. That'll
be yours here on FSR. Nothing to see here, Bill
Belichick said yesterday, the reports about my looking for a buyout,
(38:34):
are trying to leave North Carolina is categorically false. There's
zero truth to any of that. I'm glad I'm here.
We're working toward our goals. We believe very much in
the process. We need to just keep working and grinding away,
and that's exactly what we're doing. So all of that
stuff last week, all of those reports about you know,
assistant coaches complaining, people feeling bad for the kids, We're
(38:57):
two weeks away from this thing ending. All of that
at all false, apparently according to Bill Belichick. And I
think it was Bruce Feldman who was on with The
Herd yesterday who pointed out that, you know, Mike Lombardi
maybe is the guy who's kind of, you know, steered
this thing in the wrong direction based on roster construction,
(39:18):
and as Bruce pointed out in an article last week,
that they kind of misread how to operate and how to.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Build a program at the college level.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
So apparently, though everybody's there and everybody wants to be there,
and so there's no end in sight for Belichick and
his time at North Carolina, no end in sight.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
I do love the fact though, that like Lombardi has
somehow flowing under the radar. Meanwhile, like he's the one
that kept calling the team the thirty third NFL team,
He's the one that's you know, in charge of the
evaluation roster construction, and then you see always reports about
how they're fighting for power.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Excuse me, a group of four, group of five guys.
It's just.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Random, you know, it's kind of random. And I'll be
curious to see if that relationship.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Continues or what they do to change the course moving forward,
if indeed he's going to be around past this year,
which we'll find out when it's all send them a
lot of football left to be played, though, but they've
got to improve mightily otherwise there's there's no chance this
team can even make a bowl game at this point.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You know, he's going to receive the benefit of the doubt.
His resume is too strong. I think it ultimately comes
down to what's the relationship between Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
The a D.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
What's the AD's relationship with the whatever whoever it is
that runs the school.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't know what title they would have at U
and C.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
But Bubba Cunningham's the AD, all right, So whatever whatever
that relatelationship is between Bubba and and Bill, and Bubba's
relationship with the person that that runs the school. And
and you know is you and see a private or
state that's state school, right, so they they he probably
they have to figure out how they're dealing with the
(41:17):
board and stuff like that. I mean, there's a there's
a few conversations that I feel as though have to
be taking place now in order for what Bill Belichick
may be intending to have take place be able to
stay on course, because there's obviously going to be conversations
as to is he doing things the right way based
(41:40):
off of what you're seeing as the results this year.
But he did say trust the process, And for some
strange reason, we've forgotten that sometimes it takes time to
build success. Like you don't you don't always come in
and have success right out of the gate. So for
for our our culture and our society to have turned
(42:03):
to that so so, I don't know, I think it's
so unrealistic to think that everybody's just going to have
success right from the start.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
They were people were the way it was covered, it
was almost, I don't want to say rooting for it
to fail from the jump, but it almost immediately everything
around Belichick and North Carolina was criticized, his girlfriend, the interview,
just all of it.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Wind blows hardest at the top of the flag pole. Man,
It's just what it is. Just how it works. It's
just how it works. You gotta get what's happening at
the bottom of that pole. You're just there. You're just there.
You're in the icing, you're just you're just like pole
humping going on. You're just deeply sunk into the icing
and you're just there. Damn with some pole humping.
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and
myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays
six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local
station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us
(00:22):
live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR
give this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Radio Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Tuesday edition, of course, we're gonna have
Dean Blandino stop by. There's all sorts of questions we
got about some of the rules, some of the infractions,
some of the penalties called in the NFL and college football.
This weekend, we're also going to have a conversation about
(00:56):
double barrel action in the NFL. On Monday Night football
Bear's win. Was it a statement win for Ben Johnson
and what he's trying to pull off there in Chicago?
The Atlanta Falcons get it done. Bjon Robinson potentially the
best player in the NFL according to his head coach,
and are the Bills concerned? Plus Mike Tomlin's concern about
(01:17):
what the hell the Cleveland Browns are doing. We're also
going to have the very latest on the search for
a head coach in state college as well as Nashville.
All of a sudden, all of it is yours coming
up next here. It's two Pros and a cup of
Joe on a Tuesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You found love helmvar So listen closely. Sh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Issues Man, I didn't say conder man? An you right though?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Cuz dang.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Fox Sports Radio, Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
By the way, be sure to check out our brand
new YouTube channel for the show. Just search two pros
FSR on YouTube again. That's two pros FSR. Be sure
to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there at the
thumbs up icon. Comment away, let us know who on
the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong.
But checking out our new channel on YouTube again, just
(02:18):
search two pros FSR and subscribe.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So uh so uh so uh it's Jonas Knox here
Penn State.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So you're really going to do it? Huh? We're still there. Huh.
Well I'm still doing this, still doing that. Huh.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Penn State is looking for a coach and lot going
on there. Pat Craft is talking about, you know, James
Franklin's record in big games being a problem, that they're
there to win national championships, very fired up. And then
you've got Matt Ruhle, former teammate of LeVar Arrington, now
the head coach of Nebraska, who, of course you knew
(02:56):
was going to be asked about the situation yesterday, and
so here what does the now Nebraska head coach, Matt
Ruhle talking about his fondness for his alma mater and
also where he stands with Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I love Penn State.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I met my wife. There's Milema Mater fan since I
was born. I was born I think probably at a
Penn State shirt where I was born. I love Pat
Craft and I'm really sad, really sad to see coach
Franklin go. When you think about what he did for
mile Ma Mater. You know the program was in peril, right,
I mean, if people remember, like the historic sanctions that
(03:31):
you could transfer out and could do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Bill O'Brien comes in.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Stabilizes it for two years. James takes over a program
in disarray and gives stability excellence. You know, see videos
of people like yelling at his kids, And I just
don't understand why in our country like well now, like
coaches are villains, Like you know how hard I worked
in Carolina and the things that were said to me
are you know how hard I work here? And some
of the things that are said, you know, our coaches
work here. Howard Satt worked last year. So I'm just
(03:55):
really sad about that part of it. I came here
for two reasons. I love the community here and wanted
to live here, and I love it here, and I
wanted to rebuild Nebraska football and Troy and I understand
the steps that you need to take to make us
Big Ten champions and national champions. This this place is elite.
I'm not going to talk a lot about job openings
when they come. Maybe it's been a while here, but
this is what happens when you win. I've dealt with it,
(04:16):
you know, We've won a temple, and I dealt with
it all the time dealt with Baylor. I'm not going
to talk about those things ever. I'm not going to
talk about my contract here. I'm going to talk about
the team. Yeah. I absolutely love it here, and I
just wanted I want us to continue to take the
steps needed for us to turn this thing into a
beast and players all across the country you want to
come here. We have the best facilities, we have elite fans,
and I'm just looking.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
At the future.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So it feels like this would be the one, like
if there was going to be like this feels like
a dream job for Matt Rule if he decided he
wanted to take it based on his comments about the program.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So what c not my albleter? You got it? You
got this? No, you always not true.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
That is not true.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Let's don't do this to me. Let's bring them home, Bar,
Let's bring him. Come on, bar, what y'all would come on?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Bar?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
And me for why are you?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Why are you putting this on me?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's let's hear what you have to say.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Cut all right, and I'll say things I've told of
are behind the scenes, Like look, I think I think
hiring a coach who has previous experience at a school,
either as a student, but always better as a player,
(05:43):
is really important. And the reason why I said this
is because I think college football is more tribal, it's
more cultural than any other sport. And we can call
it professional sport however you want to describe where college
football is at.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's just the reality of it. Okay.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
People attach a really important, amazing part of their life
to that school because of the maturation process that happens
through it. So there's just a more a stronger feeling
towards that school, towards their alma mater. And so I
think someone who's got the perspective having gone through it,
(06:22):
it helps them understand exactly what they're signing up for.
You know, we just talked about Brian Callahan getting fired
with the Tennessee Titans when he signed that contract, when
he decided to become the head coach of the Tennessee Titans.
I guarantee you right now, all the thoughts going through
his head are drastically different than what was said to him,
(06:43):
what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Going into it less than two years ago.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
And I think when you've got the perspective of again
a coach who has played there been there, and he
goes back to his alma mater for example. In this case,
it helps him understand all the powers that be, what
that fan base is going to be like, you know, win, lose, etc.
All those things. He understands the recruiting landscape. There's just
(07:10):
so many things that it makes it a bit easier
in ways. But also it helps you get off on
the right foot right out the gate. You know you're
not having someone jump into a program that doesn't feel
like the right fit. And I say this being a
guy from Columbus, Ohio who watched John Cooper, who was
(07:32):
a Southern who come up to the Midwest, and it
just felt like it was never gonna work.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
John Cooper was a really good coach.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Won a lot of football games.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
He's a Hall of Fame coach by the way in
college football, but he ultimately couldn't beat Michigan enough. He
ultimately couldn't win enough bowl games and get Ohio State
to where it needed to go. And watch Jim Trestle
when he was able to do that, and by the wait,
Jim trest was someone who understood the landscape like I
was there on a recruiting visit when he walked into
(08:01):
Saint John's Arena and he's literally said to the crowd,
We're gonna make you proud X amount of days, which
were the days leading up to that game against Michigan.
Like he knew right out the gate what he needed
to do and what he needed to say, and then
he catched the world on fire. I don't think his
first year, but but after that it became that right.
(08:25):
So my general point is, would Matt Rule be a
good fit for Penn State? Of course? You know, I
think you look at what he's done every third year
he's been with a college program, Temple, Baylor, now Nebraska.
You know, his first year five and seven. You know,
next year was seven and six. I believe now they
five to one, and when you really look at their schedule,
(08:48):
they could be eleven and one with the way this
thing's going so far and and what their schedule looks like.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So once again year three building it up.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
And I know it didn't work with the Carolina Panthers,
but quite honestly, like who is it really working for there?
With Carolina? My concern in this hire is, you know,
he hasn't been able to beat a top twenty five
team since he's gotten to Nebraska, like he hasn't been
able to win that kind of big game.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And that's exactly the issue.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
With why James Franklin is no longer there. Not only
could he not win that game, but then it became
an issue of you know, losing the UCLA, losing the
northwester or kind of a snowball effect. But that's the question,
like you're trying to answer, and so that is a
little bit of a concern. But I also, you know,
don't want to limit you know, what Matt Rule could
(09:43):
potentially do with the resources of everything else he has there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Now, again, there's a.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Lot of football if we played Matt Rule's got a again,
a team that may be biting for a playoff spot
in Nebraska. Sounds crazy to say, but it could be.
And so we'll see how things play out over the
course of the year. But to me, he would definitely
be one of the names that I would go after,
one of the names that makes a lot of sense
as far as a fit of the next head coach
(10:08):
at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You know, Matt and Pat have worked together before that.
You know, he was he was Pat. Pat was Matt's
a d I want to say at Temple, I believe
that that's where that's correct.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
They cracked up.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And as far as as far as I'll just say
what I feel about Matt from my perspective, I won't
turn it into like this, this is the guy that's getting
hired or anything like that. I would just say what
what my understanding of Matt Rule is. He's an interesting
(10:43):
He's an interesting one because success has never changed him.
You know, He's if you were to meet Matt Rule
twenty years ago and you're hanging out with Matt Rule today,
you would think that being a head coach some of
the most prominent programs, even making it to the National
(11:04):
Football League, to be a head coach, you be a
little you'd be different. You know changes you. Success changes
you power, positions of power. They have the power of
changing you. And Matt Rule has never changed. He has
always been the dude that you see and you give
him the biggest hug, the biggest embrace, and you catch
(11:26):
up just like you didn't miss any time. So I
would say one, I've never met anyone who has had
anything ever bad to say about Matt Rule, not one person. Secondly,
I would say one of my interesting observations during my time,
(11:49):
you know, going to Penn State. I've never like when
Joe was coaching, our sideline was littered with guys that
played for Joe Paturna. Know, you didn't see that with
with Coach Franklin. You would see some guys from Coach
(12:10):
Franklin's days of coaching there, but there was not a
oh my gosh, like there's like one hundred two hundred,
you know whatever, it is, like crazy amount of lettermen
that are on the sideline. Recently, they there's been a real,
I guess, a real action to try to create that
(12:30):
and bring guys back. I don't know that you would
have that problem with Matt rule. And I'm not sure
how the Franklin the Franklin former players would view it
or see it, how they would handle things or how
they're going to handle things. But I know for certain,
(12:50):
you know, guys from the Joe Paterno era would probably
come back. They would come back around. There's a strong
possibility that supporters of Joe Paterno. And if you know
the Penn State politics, I call Penn State Rome. You
have the Senate, you have you know, you have the Emperor.
(13:12):
You you know you have the Caesar or whatever you have.
You have a lot of different levels of people doing
things and positions of power or positions of privilege, whatever
you want to call it. You have that set up
at Penn State, and a lot of people are gatekeepers,
(13:32):
and so it gets pretty interesting being able to navigate
from one place to another without somebody gatekeeping it and
making it difficult. Whether you work there or whether you're
a fan or whatever it may be, it's just weird.
It's a It's an interesting way of how culture is handled.
I think a guy that's familiar with what how the
(13:54):
mob works, you know, how how different different aspects of
intern on how things work, would be a benefit. Now,
how much of that does Matt Rule know at this point,
I don't know. Is he familiar with it one hundred percent?
So there is the politics side of it that if
(14:15):
you bring someone in and they don't understand whoever the
guy is that comes in, he has to understand or
or get up to speed very quickly on the landscape
of what Penn State represents, because if you do not
take that into serious consideration, your time will be it
(14:36):
will be very very limited, just because of the intensity
of the fan base, it'll be it'll be pretty, it
may be short lived. So I just think I think
Matt Rule is a guy that that again he can
unite instead of creating division. I just don't know if
(14:58):
it's a great like it always sounds it is great
to bring an alumni back, a guy who knows it
Da da da. I just wonder is there is there
are there drawbacks to that as well, Like you know,
I don't. I would never want to do it because
the same people that are are the ones that love
you now and have cheered you on through the years
(15:18):
and stuff like that. Get to some losing games, get
to a losing season and you'll be like, wait, wait,
like you you had my autograph on your jersey and
you're you're sitting there saying fire me, Like, I don't
want to go through those type of It's.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Wild, right, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I would never want to go through those mental emotional
gymnastics as to how can you go from loving me
to hating me?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
And dude, we used to play in this bookstore basketball
tournament at Notre Dame. It's it's I mean claim to
be the largest outdoor five on five basketball tournam in
the world. There's like some five hundred and six hundred teams.
It's any student, faculty, employee of the of the university.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Anyone could play in it. You can't play for.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
More than one team, but like there's all these different
rules and it goes on during the spring, like the
entire spring semester.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And I remember going from our spring game.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Like people are cheering you on you're at your spring game,
to then going to the basketball court and all these
dudes are talking trash and I'm like, what the what
in the world, Like what is going on? It always
it always gave me the perspective of like everyone loves
you until things aren't going the way that they want
(16:34):
them to go or you even you want them to go.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And the reality is, too is fans aren't your friends.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
And I think there's too often times players get, you know,
that confused because of you know, the love that they
get at times, and then the backlash that they'll receive
is that they're not friends. They're just fans. You know,
they like the team. They're gonna like the team after
you're there. They liked it before you got there. So
you have to have the proper perspective. But I'm really
(17:01):
curious to get Jonas's two cents on this, because I
think he's got he's got a little sit by the way,
going back to the big games for Matt rule, Matt
rule is not beaten, and I believe my research is
correct in this case. His record versus ranked teams is
two and twenty three, and it actually dates back to
his wins versus top twenty five teams.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He got one over.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
But state, well, it comes down to Temple.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I mean, like, you know, bad, bad record against top
teams sounds familiar. It feels like that that was the
problem last time. But my question for Lebar is this,
and then.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We want to take Yeah, we want we want to
ask why you an Annie up?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
First, give us your take. Then you're gonna ask some question.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
How what is pat Craft's standing within the program? Is
he love there? Does he yet like? Is he on
steady ground? Is there any conversation about pat Craft?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Potentially?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Ad?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah? No, he's good. Okay, he's good, all right.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So if that's if that's the case, then let him
do what he sees fit for the program. Let him
go with the direction he wants to go with somebody
he's confident in somebody he has a relationship with somebody
who knows the program the way he does, and let
him do what it takes to bring in Matt Rule.
And if they're let him do what it takes to
bring in that rule. Like if he can, if he
can bring.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You've already concluded that he should bring in that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No not rule because Signette's a p A guy Okay, Pittsburgh,
but he's yeah, but he's not a Matt Rule PA
guy who was went to high school and state college.
Walked on Joas was a grad assistant after he left
state college.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Bring in Matt Rule, bring back he was. He was
like a grad assistant. He was like not a grad assistant,
but he was like a manager. You know.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
That's how he got on the team. Like the story
of him getting on the team is, Wow, he's a
walk on because if the way that you present it
is Joe didn't even want him to try out, and
he kept begging and begging and begging. They finally allowed
him to try out. The dude tries out and makes
the team. We like we were rag dolling Matt Rule,
(19:15):
rag dolling him and warm up and end period and
stuff like that. Dude found a way to make it
on the field as a special team specialist. Dude was
making plays on special teams like his His story's pre phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So it's kind Yes, so he was rudy, except it
wasn't embellished.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Dang.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, I don't know about all that, but but God like,
go finish your point.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
My thought is, if it can be done, make it happen.
If he's open to it, make it happen. And if
there's a Nebraska fan out there that looks at this
and has any sort of an issue with Matt Rule
wanting to take the gig, this feels like a dream opportunity,
a you know, come full circle moment for Matt Rule,
for his wife we met the I think this is
(20:01):
the one that he would look at and go, I'm
a stand up guy, you know, I love Nebraska. But
this opportunity is too good to pass up. And if
they if pat crafts on steady ground there and they
trust his direction with the team, with the program, with
athletics in general, then let him do what it takes
to bring.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Home that rule, that would be my move.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Was your question the pack Craft questions, So you asked
the question first, anyway, is that what you did there?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, you're a jerk.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I just wanted to know. And also, when you say
that a lot of the old time players weren't hanging
out around the program, was that that James Franklin wasn't
open to that or they just didn't view him.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
It doesn't feel like James would be the type of
coach to do that, like he Yeah, I don't know
that that is that my choice?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't. I probably would say it's by choice. Do
you think that.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Maybe some of the older guys are just like, man,
it's so damn hard to get in there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, I'm not dealing with that. That airport sucks because.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I mean, can I be honest?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Can I be honest?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The first thing I do as the head coach of
Penn State when I take over, is I am lobbying.
I don't know if it's a state, I don't know
who I need to lobby of the county. I'm making
that airport bigger. The fact that the team has to
drive to Harrisburg to fly out is ridiculous. And also
(21:26):
give yourself a chance to have I don't care which airline,
but find a partner, lobby, the lobby the state local
government to make that airport bigger, to make it even easier.
On recruiting, like you guys haven't been able to get
like really great blue chip wide receivers. There's been some guys,
Don't get me wrong. John Dotson is like the most
(21:48):
recent kind of comes to mind. So there's others. But
the reality is, as far as recruiting goes, the easier
you make it to get to a school for the
player and the parent, the easier it is for them
to make that decision. Like that is one of the
first things that I have no idea why that hasn't changed.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That's not why changed. That is the reason. You could
say it's not why. But if no, it's not. I'm
not talking about recruits.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You guys ask me why Letterman don't don't don't come
ome No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
All I'm saying is, though every single person that's a
Penn State of lum fan recruit what have you, they
would literally look at the coach and say thank you,
thank God, like thank god someone finally like brought me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
You're not wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Look, I'll be transparent. I said this to LeVar.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I was like, they need somebody who can bring you
into the twenty first century with how things are done.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Now this is one of them. That's so funny.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
We just we just started updating hotel rooms like now no,
but literally this year was like like like the last
couple of years has been the first times that we've
started updating things like like let's just say, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hotel and go oh whatever.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
It changes the entire experience, It changes haged mind.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I've been going there for years.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
The amis the Amish rolled through on a horse and
buggy like hit it together.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Bro the hotel I went.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I stayed at the hotel that I stayed in when
I was a player at Penn State the night before games.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I went there a couple of times and was
staying there and on.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
God, outside of the TV, everything was the couches, the carpet,
everything was the same, like your artwork on the walls,
every single thing that the Primanni rapper you left there
twenty years ago with stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right there in the corner, right there in the corner.
Missed it. They missed it.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Telling you, man, they need to update that whole thing,
like they and I'll compare it to not.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And they are we are we are by the way.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, but even the airport in the sense of all
that just how you can go about doing it.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
But like Notre Dame, there was a kind of a
divide between Notre Dame the actual campus and then South Bend,
and I would say over the last like kind of
fifteen years ish, there has been more of a partnership
and then how they're trying to kind of revamp and
just make it safer, better for everyone involved, and everyone
wins in that case in a happy value.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm not saying that they have same issues.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
But there's definitely some similar things that they could do
to help make life easier on whoever that next head
coach is. All the fans, alumni, students, all that stuff,
even faculty, like all that stuff could be could be improved.
And I know people are like, why the hell are
you talking about this with the head coach, because literally
usually the head coach of that football program is the
(24:43):
top paid employee of the state. Like there's no one
who's gonna be paid more than Ryan Day and the
state of Ohio, there's no one's gonna be paid more
than the head coach at Penn State in the entire state.
So that's the person that's got that the actually voice,
the platform, the lobbying power to actually do it. So
(25:04):
that's why I bring that up because and it makes
a monumental change. Go look at Teatown, go ahead, and
Tuscaloosa when Nick Sabn first got there and what it
is now that entire place is transformed. Yes, success plays
a role in that, but his understanding of the bigger
picture played a role in that too, and it's one
of the reasons why they're still to this day recruiting
their ass off.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah, I mean I don't disagree with that. I think
just going back to the simple, you know, response to
the question, I just think that guys want to feel
comfortable about where they're going, and regardless of where the
not the discomfort of it comes from.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I just know there's always been the undercurrent the conversations
of Joe Paterno era versus the New era of time.
I don't know why it turned into a thing, but
it did, and and it was always something that was
hanging over James Franklin's head. I find it to be
(26:08):
kind of petty and was unnecessary and still will continue
to be unnecessary. How how someone like Matt rule would
be received, I'm not sure I think it would be
a better situation, But there's always those ones, including Jay,
you know, Jay Paterno, Joe's son, that they they make
(26:31):
it a point to continue to flame and and create
a fire or keep the fire burning of there being
like this divide between the the Joe Paterno era and
the era of Penn State moving forward, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I don't know what they want.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I don't know what that represents, but it has been
a determining factor in how people view the program, the
people involved in it, and at some point that's got
to come to an end. So there are bigger issues
that have to be addressed. But it'll be interesting to
see if the person they choose, outside of a Matt Ruhle,
who would probably understand how to navigate it. Outside of that,
(27:14):
would a Kurt Signette be able to do it? Like
would other guys be able to come in there and
navigate it, because that's a major part of what these guys,
you know, what.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
James Franklin had to navigate. Yeah, just don't hire a tool.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Speaking of which, get tools to perform at the highest
level on every job without compromise. When you shop Makda
at the home depot, when the job calls for the best,
call on Makda built to be the best available at
the home depot, How pros get more done?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Coming up next here, you're going to hear one coach
be very critical of a rival inside his division.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
That will be yours here at FSR.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well, you know what you can put on rivals, some
hot sauce, and you know what you do, Yeah, eat
them up. You know what I mean, Like, eat them
rivels right on up. If it tastes real good. You know,
food always tastes better when you win. Drinks are colder,
you know. But that hot sauce, man, it's a vibe,
and oh yeah, better be that original Louisiana hot sauce
because nothing brings that heat like your team getting that dub,
(28:11):
and nothing brings that flavor like that bold, hand crafted
kick straight out of Louisiana. That's right, it's that peppery
peppers kick, that vinegar kick, that salt kick from our
Louisiana flavor masters who have been blending perfectly for almost
one hundred years. It'll turn every good meal into a
(28:32):
great meal, and every great meal into a party. On
your plate, Nacho, Who's burgers, wings, you name, it doesn't matter.
Hit it with that original Louisiana Hot sauce after a
Sunday win or Saturday or Friday, and suddenly it's unbeatable,
like a touchdown. Dance on your tongue. And hey, if
(28:53):
your team didn't pull off a win this week, don't
worry about it. Pour some on anyway. It'll help ease
the pain. That's right, is what we call a victory formation.
On your taste buds, Lorena, the only original Louisiana Hot
sauce can get that done. So make sure it's Louisiana Hot.
You know, bye you.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
So be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Hi.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
This is Jay.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.
Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to
the show. I'm here to ask you Please don't listen
to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who
have the dumbest takes on sports magible. Don't listen to
the show so it can get Camper, get.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Him, Paully, Ignore that fool.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeart Radio
app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's still moving. Two pros and a couple of Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up in just a couple of moments
from now, we're going to tell you about well, there's
a coach in the NFL doesn't really understand what a
rival is doing. We'll get into that for you here
on FSR. By the way, at the home Depot, Makita
tools are built for the pros who show up early
with tools built to last job after job, year after year.
(30:20):
When the job calls for the best, call them Makita
available at the home Depot. How pros get more done.
So the Steelers and the Bengals will face off this Thursday.
That'll be your kickoff too. Week seven in the NFL,
and Mike Tomlin is still trying to figure out why
the Cleveland Browns traded Joe Flacco inside the division.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I totally agreed. I'm like, I totally agreed that when
it happened.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Is this the most common sense like way of summarizing
what happened.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
When we when I saw that that took place, I
think that's the first thing I asked, y'all, why why
would you allow him to go to Cincinnati with all
that talent?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like I take that so the first conversation we had.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So there's multiple ways of cutting this up. Like the
first thing.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
I'd say is you drafted two quarterbacks third and fifth round,
Dylan Gabriel, Shediver Sanders. If you were going to spend
which like goes without saying rookies need the most reps, right,
most development, most practice time, all that, if you were
going to spend the entire offseason all right with by
(31:46):
the way, two guys because they already dealt Picket. So
you had Flacco and Picket, and then you got two
rookies and you're you're doing this whole thing where you're
dividing up all these reps. How does it make any
sense to then waste all that time and energy on
two guys who weren't gonna be there past what week
(32:07):
six in the NFL? Crazy like that in and of itself.
So like, so forget the trade and where Joe Flacco went.
Just think about the fact that you had Picket, you
had Flacco, two guys who are battling to be your
starting quarterback, taking reps away from now to guys who
will be your quarterbacks moving forward for the bulk of
(32:31):
the season.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like that in and of itself.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
Like, dude, it happened when I was there in two
thousand and seven, Charlie Frye was our starting quarterback. He
got benched after halftime of week our Week one game
versus Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They traded him after that week.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Do you know, Asinine, that is like to waste all
that time in reps, It's ridiculous, Like it's there's no
different than the conversation we just had about Brian Callahan
that like, if you're gonna wait and just do it
at this point in the season, why not doing the offseason?
Like what is the point? So to me, there's like
(33:11):
that and how ridiculous it is. And then the fact
that you're willing to do it within the division a
team that you know you're going to face later on,
which maybe tells you that's what they think about Flack
at this point. He can't get the job done for them,
I guess. I mean, it's that can be talked about
in its own right, but just it's almost like Mike
Tomlin's sitting there saying to you, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Not a serious organization.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And this is coming from.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
A Browns fan, a former Browns.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Player, But that's the reality of what Browns fans and
the organization's up against in Pittsburgh. A serious organization, a
track record of success once again leading the division, not shocking,
and consistency, whereas Cleveland's been the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Again, I just think Captain Obvious was a part of
what what Mike Tomlin had to say. And again, why
would you allow for him to go to a team
if you're willing to trade for him as the Bengals.
You want to get a hold of him because you
guys need a quarterback because the one you're using right
now isn't helping, isn't working. Why would you allow that
(34:19):
trade to take place? That's I can't. I couldn't get
past that answer for the life of me. But even
if the thought process is, you know, I don't. We
don't take Cleveland seriously, well, you probably take Cincinnati seriously,
and they have a seriously good roster. They just don't
(34:39):
have Joe Burrow right now. So why would you allow
for Joe Flacco, who you've seen prove that he can win,
still go to that team with all that talent and
you're the Browns. That says to me, the Browns have
an old terrier motive, Yes, a different okay, they have
a different agenda, then what the Stealers. The Steelers have
(35:02):
an agenda to try to win a super Bowl and
win the conference and go on to try to win
the division and well back to reverse right and and
Cleveland Browns are what trying to get the number one
overall picks Like, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
There you go. They don't care if they suck.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yeah, Well, which switch is crazy because when you have
to deal with a team that has that when they
had that type of.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean it's true though, like the Bears, the Jets,
the Browns, like it's the usual suspects.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Again, that's horrible when.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
If you have a team that's that that bad and
that's what they're going for and they're they're sabotaging other
people just for what it is that they're going to
just be bad. Anyway they get the number one overall pick,
they're going to get a quarterback, They're still going to
be bad.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
They're going to be bad. So that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You're jacking up other people's opportunities potentially, and you're only
doing that to try to position yourself to get a
number one draft pick. It's not guaranteeing you that the
Cleveland Browns are going to be good or competitive after
they get this number one pick. It's just strange the
Jets and telling Aaron Rodgers, now we don't need you
(36:18):
or better off. You know, in an era where you've
got teams going for it on fourth down, like I
was thinking about this yesterday, actually, in an era where
teams are going for it on fourth down at at
a clip that we've never seen before. The punter in
the NFL has now become less valuable, and the Bears
(36:39):
drafted one with the fourth round pick, Like what sense.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Does that make?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And there was still players on the board. Bucky Irving
was on the board, like there were still players there,
and for some reason they just thought that was the move. Yeah,
we're gonna go take a punter in the fourth round, okay,
And that was I think that was their last pick
of their draft.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Like bat bad teams every year.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
We were talking earlier in the show, we don't know
who the best team in the NFL is, but like
if you yes quickly with without any thought at all,
Oh yeah, Jets, Browns, Raiders, Titans. Yeah we're good.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
You know those names just familiar names with the same storyline.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (37:22):
Well, one thing I know for sure is the Browns
better not be sleeping on Joe Flacco, all right, because
you brought a little bit of a spark there. And
speaking of sleep, if you were losing sleep, every time
someone moves in bed, matches from sleep experts, they'll match
you with the temper luks adapt it's temper material absorbs
motion for undisturbed rest. Visit mattress from today and upgrade
(37:42):
to a temper repeting it makes sleep easy.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up next. Somebody's pushing back on some
rumors about their situation in the world of football. You'll
hear it next here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, coming
off top of next. Nowur a little over ten minutes
from now. One last glance back at double barrel action
in the NFL last night on Monday Night Football. That'll
be yours here on FSR. Nothing to see here, Bill
Belichick said yesterday, the reports about my looking for a buyout,
(38:34):
are trying to leave North Carolina is categorically false. There's
zero truth to any of that. I'm glad I'm here.
We're working toward our goals. We believe very much in
the process. We need to just keep working and grinding away,
and that's exactly what we're doing. So all of that
stuff last week, all of those reports about you know,
assistant coaches complaining, people feeling bad for the kids, We're
(38:57):
two weeks away from this thing ending. All of that
at all false, apparently according to Bill Belichick. And I
think it was Bruce Feldman who was on with The
Herd yesterday who pointed out that, you know, Mike Lombardi
maybe is the guy who's kind of, you know, steered
this thing in the wrong direction based on roster construction,
(39:18):
and as Bruce pointed out in an article last week,
that they kind of misread how to operate and how to.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Build a program at the college level.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
So apparently, though everybody's there and everybody wants to be there,
and so there's no end in sight for Belichick and
his time at North Carolina, no end in sight.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
I do love the fact though, that like Lombardi has
somehow flowing under the radar. Meanwhile, like he's the one
that kept calling the team the thirty third NFL team,
He's the one that's you know, in charge of the
evaluation roster construction, and then you see always reports about
how they're fighting for power.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Excuse me, a group of four, group of five guys.
It's just.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Random, you know, it's kind of random. And I'll be
curious to see if that relationship.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Continues or what they do to change the course moving forward,
if indeed he's going to be around past this year,
which we'll find out when it's all send them a
lot of football left to be played, though, but they've
got to improve mightily otherwise there's there's no chance this
team can even make a bowl game at this point.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You know, he's going to receive the benefit of the doubt.
His resume is too strong. I think it ultimately comes
down to what's the relationship between Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
The a D.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
What's the AD's relationship with the whatever whoever it is
that runs the school.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't know what title they would have at U
and C.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
But Bubba Cunningham's the AD, all right, So whatever whatever
that relatelationship is between Bubba and and Bill, and Bubba's
relationship with the person that that runs the school. And
and you know is you and see a private or
state that's state school, right, so they they he probably
they have to figure out how they're dealing with the
(41:17):
board and stuff like that. I mean, there's a there's
a few conversations that I feel as though have to
be taking place now in order for what Bill Belichick
may be intending to have take place be able to
stay on course, because there's obviously going to be conversations
as to is he doing things the right way based
(41:40):
off of what you're seeing as the results this year.
But he did say trust the process, And for some
strange reason, we've forgotten that sometimes it takes time to
build success. Like you don't you don't always come in
and have success right out of the gate. So for
for our our culture and our society to have turned
(42:03):
to that so so, I don't know, I think it's
so unrealistic to think that everybody's just going to have
success right from the start.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
They were people were the way it was covered, it
was almost, I don't want to say rooting for it
to fail from the jump, but it almost immediately everything
around Belichick and North Carolina was criticized, his girlfriend, the interview,
just all of it.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Wind blows hardest at the top of the flag pole. Man,
It's just what it is. Just how it works. It's
just how it works. You gotta get what's happening at
the bottom of that pole. You're just there. You're just there.
You're in the icing, you're just you're just like pole
humping going on. You're just deeply sunk into the icing
and you're just there. Damn with some pole humping.
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com