Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe,  Jonas, LaVar and Brady open this 'Best Of' edition of the show looking ahead to what's been the dubbed the "Icy Hot Bowl" as the Aaron Rodgers-led Steelers take on the Joe Flacco-led Bengals... Is two 40-plus-year-old quarterbacks facing off going to become more commonplace going forward, or is this a rarity? Then they move into Titans interim head coach Mike McCoy's opening press conference, discussing what the switch means for the rest of Cam Ward's rookie season. Later, the guys react to recent comments from Arch Manning on blocking out the noise. What's been going on with the Longhorns QB? Are the guys encouraged by what they've seen from him in recent weeks? Who has actually turned out to be the best quarterback in the country to this point?

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
Go.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
TODDSOS. That's a wrap.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
That's that serious. Yep, seeing the world serious.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Lado gold DODGEOS. This is your governor speaking. I'll be back.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
It's not just not going well for Milwaukee, which is
just a damn shame, just such a such a lovable
fan base, so much to like about that, that organization,
that fan base. So it's just wow, just a shame
is that coming from a Cubs fan.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I think he's being sarcastic. Love I heard in his voice,
love Pat Murphy. The fan base is a bit much,
my two cents.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
The TV stations are a bit much. Oh yeah, you gotta.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
We got we got being kid Napped dappings, we got
a home shoping network, you can get that for eight
and we got a TV evangelist on one. I just
you know, all right, Okay, that a lot going on. Man,
What do y'all be doing during the Ben Milor show?

(02:06):
Man like Ben? What are y'all doing? Man? Hard?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
So y'all don't see the TV? Don't watch them one bit? Okay,
Well there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
Sounds a lot like that series between the Dodgers and
the Brewers.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It definitely does good. Because I didn't watch it.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I certainly didn't have it on my TV screen.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know what, a couple more games get to the
World Series. I watched that.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I can manage one game at a time. Man, It's
that pretty good. But you guys go right ahead. I mean,
I know Q was a big time baseball player. You
know you your your son's going to be a big
time saw the film. He's going to be a big
time baseball not after yesterday. No, it went it went
downhill yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I mean he got back on the horse, so to speak.
But we I don't know why. I thought this was
a good idea. So it rained and.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
The park we play at was kind of destroyed, so
we couldn't actually go play yesterday. And so I said,
you know, we'll just go in the backyard and play catch.
So we'll just throw the ball around. That's fine, And
I got an actual baseball out because I thought, you know,
I think he's ready for this.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh no, and.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Right in the nose, right in the beat.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, you are a horrible bro.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Like they, I can't control the natural action I have
on my fastball, Like listen, some people just have that gift.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
And how do you have a natural fastball that would
hit him in his.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Nose because he thought it was going one place and
it went somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
You know, so y'all were playing catch, he wasn't swinging
a little two seam action if you will, and you're
and you're happy about it, like you're bragging about this.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Decent movement for you know that in a warm up session,
little bullpen session. It's a decent movement on that fastball.
But it hit him, just mistimed it, and uh, you know,
he was crying.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
He was very upset.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
And I waited until his mom left and I said,
you want to go back out there and try it again.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And he did and he caught the ball before him.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
But she was not She was not about that at
that point. So mom wasn't no, no, no, no, no.
She was what are you doing? Why'd you think that
was a good idea? And there's I have no response,
there's nothing. It's like everything she said is valid. Those
are fair questions. I don't know what I was thinking,
to be honest with you, I just you're not supposed

(04:41):
to get shamed for being a dad that's teaching his
young boy to be a young man. You can't get
shamed for that. That's what you're doing. Like you know,
kids have replaced baseball bats and hockey sticks for street
hockey and street baseball and basketball and at the neighborhood

(05:04):
gym and or at the neighborhood park with doritos and
remote controls and cell phones. Yeah, the kids don't go
outside anymore, man, They don't play, they don't do physical activities,
and then they end up being obese and overweight, looking like.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Me, damn, and.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Complaining about why life is Unflandrastically, where do we go?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Leave you to hell? Leave you, leave you the hell alone?
Let that.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Let let let little man get hitting the god dang face.
Know what pain feels like? Pain, Know what it feels
like to get through the pain and get back at it.
I'm just saying, yeah, well, hell, I'm just saying, if
he ends up with it, he ends up with a
deviated septum when he's older. You know that's we know

(06:00):
when it happened. I'm a doctor. True, So well, it
was worth it. Y'all had a father son moment. He'll
never forget it. It'll be a story daddy tales.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
By the way, speaking older, Yeah, what are your guys
thoughts on? I believe Cam Hayward came up with this
name for the Steelers Bengals game coming up on Thursday night,
The Icy Hot Bowl between Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.
A couple of forty plus year old quarterbacks going out
there slinging it. Last time this happened. Only time it

(06:31):
happened Tom Brady Drew Brees back in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So we got Rogers, we got Flacco.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Might as well pull Q in there. You want to
go get it?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
You want some of that C I'd throw like a
few passes, Yeah, I'd be about it.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Y'all have the same age, right, you same age as
like Aaron Rodgers, right.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Uh, he's older by like a year or two. I
think I think it was like two classes, but like
one year age wise, and then Flacco is a year
or two younger something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I'm somewhere in the middle, I guess. Okay, But my
question is, last one we saw was was Brady Breeze.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Will this become a more of a common occurrence to
you guys, or do you think actually this is a
rarity because you're just you're not gonna see guys play
as long in part, like, I look at.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
The style of play of some of the guys, and
I think.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
It was I think what we were talking about, but
maybe it was Baker Mayfield. There's any He's scrambled and
run more this year than ever before, and usually that
leads to you know, injuries and and everything that comes
along with with being outside the pocket where you're not protected.
And one of the reasons why I think guys are
able to play so long in the pocket is because

(07:47):
of all the protection that the NFL gives you. So
I'm not sure like which way this is gonna go.
Like I look at Flacco and the opportunity has been given,
and a lot of it's he's a super Bowl winning quarterback,
super Bowl MVP. He's played well enough for long enough
to be able to warrant the opportunity, But there's also still.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
A need because there's injuries.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
So I'm not sure if this is gonna be like
more of a common occurrence we should expect to see
this more often, or if we should appreciate it. Because
when Rogers is done, when Flacko decides to hang it up, like,
I'm not sure who that old head's going to be,
And in part two, like guys being paid up really well,
maybe to the point where they get to like year

(08:28):
twelve thirteen, they're like, yeah, I'm not doing this for
twenty years. Yeah, I'd rather just kind of move on
with life, That's what.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
I But y'all got it the easiest. Y'all got it.
The heart is but ye have at the idiot easiest.
You know, it's like, yeah, that is a.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Great point, but that doesn't change anything what I just said.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think it changes the idea of playing. As long
as you're going to play based off of I mean,
you're not going to get hurt. And it's even more
safer for quarterbacks. Now, why wouldn't you.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Just the case because like you know, when you get older,
like Aaron Rodgers, he runs out of the tunnel in
four plays, literally pops his achilles.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, well, if you're popping in achilles, I get that.
But if if you're not, you're okay to play. I'm
taking that bag and I'm gonna take it until I'm
like fifty years old.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
So Dak Prescott recently said that, you know something about
wanting to play into your forties.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I think he's thirty two, thirty three.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
And if your Dak, like he's got a whole other
decade where you're like, all right, let's say this.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Guy right, like, it's like another half of your career.
But they don't.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Let Yeah, bro, if they graze, if they if they
breathe on a quarterback, wrong these days, you're getting penalized.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
I mean it's I realize this is very frustrating for you,
the way they've made it.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, the reality is you get to pay for as
long as you want to play, as long as you
can throw.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah, but these guys probably are bigger, faster, stronger than
ever before, right, I mean, they're more explosive, they're better athletes.
Like I think you're kind of missing the point of
doesn't matter if they're protected. Dude's still getting injured. Guys
are still getting knocked the hell out.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Man, I'm not missing none of your points. Player, I'm
telling you right now, your mother efforts can play as
long as y'all want to play, because they out there.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
For with a defense. Man, we just got it so
hard over here.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, we do hold out here.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Defense hold out here for a player had many and everything. Yeah,
I mean, see how these spoiled ass brats be talking.
See see how it plays out now, y'all know what
goes on in the locker room. See what goes on
we're pale with a defense we do walking around with

(10:45):
their golf clubs and stuff like that. Hell yeah, hell yeah, sons, bitches. Yeah,
I don't even want to hear it, for that's the
only contact y'all be making. Yeah, balls and they kickers though, yeah,
kickers too, But no, the QBS be right with them.

(11:08):
They're all, you know, kickers, and yeah, they'd be right
with be right with them. In the season, definitely, maybe
maybe the off season. Spring, definitely the spring.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
But they be key keying about their swings.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
We be key keying.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
They'd be keying like crazy, man, like doing walkthroughs and
and training and running and stuff like that. And the
quarterbacks and then and the punters and the kickers they
be over there like yucking it up, you know, swinging clubs.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
There you go and then defend. Man, we want the club. Yeah,
that is what we do tonight. We got what we
gona do.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
You do?

Speaker 5 (11:52):
What do you want to do? I don't know it's code.
I don't know why what you were gonna do? We're
gonna do you want to do it? What time you wait?
When we're going with that? I pick you up. I'll
pick you up and we get showered. Give me twenty minutes.
I'ma meet you out front. All right, Cats come back
ca cats come backing out the door. Backwards, going down

(12:16):
the stairs of their their town home, looking around like
you're really about to go on a caper. You get
up in the car, you dap your boy yet, let's right,
that's right. And I got him too, by the way.
I go up in there with my QB. We rolling out.
I got ain't nobody gonna mess with. I protect him

(12:36):
better than the old lineman wood on the field. I
tell you that, don't message here.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
This other thing I'll say to LeVar about that point
is you go with a QB.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's gonna be a different experience. Oh, you get everything.
You get everything. I was always close with the QB's.
You get everything. When people be acting like they know
the quarterback. Hey man, I ain't doing good to see.
We got you set up. You're all good right here?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You ain't like all right, thanks man.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
And we get in there and it gets in there,
and all you got to do is be humble like
y'all can't all have me, y'all can't all have him,
And one of y'all gonna be bad as hell, and
you the odd man out, and I'm gonna be right
here to clean up man.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Right here.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Sorry, Brady's beautiful, but they all up on him. I
might be ugly, but I'm nice to talk to. There's
only one of him. I can console you from not
being aggressive enough to win. Clearly it played out and
you weren't on top. I could call you a loser,
but I'm gonna just say that you didn't get there

(13:39):
in time. I want to build you up. I don't
want to break you down. We can be friends, not
for a long time, but for a good time and
a short time. There you go. That's all with the QB.
Now we go in there by ourselves. It's like, hey man,
hey man, give me like you just use a Ricky line,

(14:03):
what I won't be here for a long time for
but for a good time, good time.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
You said something about like the never gonna. I don't
know if you said there gonna give you up or.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Let you down. I'm not here the well, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Literally, I was like rick lyrics a good song let
you down?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Is that the origin of rick rold Like that's where
they came from, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Is it? I don't even know what the hell that is.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Like when you pretend like you're gonna show somebody a
video and that song comes on it just jumps to
you most positive. Okay, and could you fact check that please?
I just want to make that's correct for sure. Okay, yeah,
Rick rold.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Oh yeah, this is that's when when all the girls
get taken.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Up by Brady.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
We're gonna make you that.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
One that got left by herself or two or three.
I'm gonna choose one of you three because now I'm
the chooser.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
We're no strangers to love. So when are we doing this?
We know the rules.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
You tried to get the Brady, you couldn't get to them,
and now you're here.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Someone gonna make this their opener for a minute.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Hey, you gotta wait a little while. I just want
to tell you how I'm feeling right now. Because you
got time, I can make you understand. Yeah, it get
the far not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna
ride around and desert you girls. Yeah, I'm not gonna
make you cry like Brady did. I'm not gonna say goodbye.

(15:48):
I'm not gonna tell you a lie and hurt you girl.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
We love you.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Hey, but I got my own little groupie club because
they couldn't.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Get the que winning winning.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
When the QB wants to Hey, all y'all young bucks
out there, when the QB wants to go hang out?
Which you go hang out? Which QB? Getting good? Which QB?
You ain't got to just be the WIAT receiver or
the center of the offensive line, get in good?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Which QB? Man? Because that is real life.

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another edition of in case you missed it coming up
here in about twenty minutes from now. Mike McCoy is
now the interim head coach for the Tennessee Titans. He's
got the task of trying to help develop le while
he's there. One cam Ward the number one overall pick
in the draft upon the firing of Brian Callahan and
Mike McCoy talked about that yesterday.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
That's gonna be our number one focus is you know,
how do how do we get Cam to be more efficient,
you know, and and have more success.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
But it's not just him.

Speaker 10 (19:17):
There's ten other guys in the field with him that
I've got to do their jobs better too, So it's
we got to we all have to do our job there, coaching,
playing everybody. But I think there's the good and the bad,
and as a young player, as a rookie, there's gonna
be some bumps in the road. It's it's going to happen.
I mean, it doesn't matter what position you're going to

(19:38):
play in this league, especially quarterbacks the hardest position to play.
So you know, there's there's some really good things and
then there's some things that you want to say, what
are we doing and what our The number one focus
has got to be, Okay, how do we minimize the
mistakes and get more of the good, you know, more production?
But that that's that's all eleven on offense working together

(20:00):
and being more.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Efficient Titans internmad coach Mike McCoy. There also should be
noted Brian Callahan's dad, Bill Callahan, no longer on the
staff as the offensive line coach. I can't imagine that
would have been very comfortable situation for anybody if his
son just got clipped and he's still the on lion coach,
there seems like yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
But at the same time, I mean, you know the
job you're signed up, right, Yeah, yeah, Like there's that
element of things. And I don't remember when Brian Callahan
got the job, many thought like, hey, that one of
the enticing things about Brian Callahan is he's the son
of Bill Callahan. He's one of the best offensive line
coaches in the league, and so there was a thought

(20:44):
that that was I don't want to say a package deal,
but that was definitely part of the upside of hiring
Brian Callahan, who is a you know again a young,
you know, well spoken, good offensive mind. He built up
his reputation from his time in Cincinnati, but you know,
clearly he wasn't given enough time to do much of
anything with this team or with with this roster.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I mean, even if you think about.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
It from the standpoint of all right, LeVar takes over
as head coach and year one he's got one general manager.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
In year two they already fired him. He's got another one.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Like, think about the conversations that you're having with that guy,
whoever that is. You know about how you go about
seeing you know, the quarterback, the attributes you're looking for,
building the offensive line, building you know, building out what
these players look like. So the whole thing, to me
is still a disaster. It's it's still a mess. I

(21:35):
do think the upside is for cam Ward. Look, Mike
McCoy played in this league. He's uh, he'd he played
for four or five years as a quarterback. He's been
in the league as a coach for a long time.
You know, I've spent time with him. He's a smart coach.
He's a good play caller. He will put cam Ward
in a position to help him grow and help him

(21:56):
hopefully succeed. But like I don't look at it and say,
all right, Brian Callahan was the issue with this team.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
This roster is not competitive enough.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
They've got some pieces and cam wort and throw to
Calvin Ridley all day, but that's only going to get
you so far in the NFL. So that's the tough
part is you're making a change for again. I don't
want to say change his sake, but whoever was in
the hiring process in the first place probably should have
looked themselves.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
In the mirror.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
And say, if we don't give the next guy, I
don't know, four years, we're never.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Gonna see what this thing can be.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
And it's going to be ugly early because we're not
in a position right now to win a lot of
football games.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
And then you have casualties, casualties from number one overall
draft picks to draft picks all through the draft, to
undrafted free agents that would have had fear opportunities to
have pretty decent careers, to better careers, to Hall of
Fame careers if they weren't drafted into a situation like

(22:58):
the one there in right now. Always going to be
casualties to these types of situations, Like you said, three
to four, four to five, that used to be standard
time for a coach to come in see what he
needs to see, evaluate the situation, make sure that you're

(23:20):
building a proper culture, like two to three years before
you start seeing the results of a buildout. You know,
people want homes to be built in a day. Like
if you're fortunate enough to ever design and build your
own home, I think you find out that the lesson

(23:41):
learned than that is patience and understanding, and you're not
going to get it when you want it, You're going
to get it when it's done. And people don't in
today's culture. They don't society. They don't understand time. And
I don't understand when this became a thing with ownership

(24:04):
to start making such quick, knee jerk reaction decisions on
on coaching staffs. There's only so many times you can switch,
Like when I was talking about Washington back in the
day before it became evident that that there was something
wrong organizationally speaking at the top with leadership. It's like

(24:28):
you bring in, like, listen to this this list of coaches.
I come in, I'm drafted. We have Norf Turner. North
gets released, relieved of his duties during the season after
we lost to Dallas. Terry Rabisky takes over. Terry Rabisky
takes over. Good dude. Then then comes Marty Schottenheimer. They

(24:51):
didn't like the fact that Marty didn't want them to
like get out of the way. Don't have me coaching
and managing you as owners while I'm trying to coach
and manage my team players and coaches. They ain't like that.
Get rid of him after one year. Then they bring

(25:12):
in Spurrier. He gets two years. Hey, nobody's fault didn't
work out. We're all pros, you know, the headball coach, Hey,
I'll take a leave. Then then they bring in Joe Gibbs. Now,
Joe Gibbs got further than anybody else. He made it
to the playoffs, but even he couldn't handle it and

(25:35):
he had to leave. Nobody could handle the conditions that
they were placed in while going to Washington.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
And then Jim Zorn got two years.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
When you get the bro it keeps going, and coaching
carousel kept going. The bottom line, God, God, no, God,
God no.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I'll just say I don't think people realize how good
of a coach Marty Schottenheimer was. Do you know he
coached and no stop was never below five hundred. The
only place San Diego, Kansas City, Cleveland, and then obviously
a year in Washington he was eight and eight. That's
the only place though where he finished with a five

(26:15):
hundred record. He was above five hundred at every destination
as a head coach.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
You want to know why we were eight and eight
because it took us literally five games to be in
the type of shape that he wanted us to be in.
Like guys had had playoff record. Guys had never worked
that hard, maybe ever in their lives. That he brought
in a due by the name of Red Man, that

(26:41):
that was his uh, the tobacco, his strength coach, Rid Man.
He was thrown off. That was when I was first
introduced to Olympic lifting, like hip thrusters, all that stuff,
and you, well, here's what's crazy, right, It did play.
I mean, my legs don't b but I mean we

(27:01):
were strong, clean, So we missed. We missed five games
because we weren't in shape. We won pretty much the
rest of the games because we were in shape. Dudes
weren't getting hurt. We were stronger than dudes. As the
season wore on, Marty had it going in the right direction,
but too many people were uncomfortable with him, and they
got rid of them. So the point I'm making is

(27:24):
that if ownership is too involved, if ownership has created
a culture that is corrosive and toxic to the team
having success, and and the worst thing about it is
is they don't know it. They don't realize how toxic
they are and how how they corrode or or take

(27:44):
away the ability to build culture within the locker room,
within the team, and the and the players and the coaches.
You're going to have situations that play out the same
exact way no matter what you do, because you're not
allowing somebody to be there long enough to change the tide,
change change the way the direction of this big ass
boat and the way that is going. And that's what's

(28:06):
taking place these days, Like a place like Tennessee is
not allowing for somebody to be in there long enough
to change the course of what what the franchise should
look like. I have a conspiracy theory. I would like
to uh like to throw you need the music? Ah, yeah, yeah,
there we go.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I believe that the reason the Titans pulled the plug
on Brian Callahan now is because Mike Rabel's coming to
town this week, and Mike Rabel is a reminder of
maybe we screwed that up. And so if we get
rid of Brian Callahan now, who was hired after Mike Rabel,

(28:46):
then it kind of gives us a little bit of
a built in excuse if we get wiped out, like hey, listen,
we're transitioning. We've got an interim head coach here, Because
if you were so uninspired by Brian Callahan as a
coach to where he to give up play calling duties.
Already you got rid of the front office guy who
brought him in. Then you don't want everybody to look

(29:08):
at what you are and what you could have been
had you just been a little bit more patient. So
at least this way, they've got a little bit of
a built in excuse, like, hey, look, we're going through
some things, we're developing. We've got an interim head coach.
It's not as bad as it seems. We've got some
plan here in some sort of direction. Otherwise, why are
you doing this? What five games into the season. What's

(29:30):
the point. We're not even at Halloween and they're out
of a coach. Okay, but five games into the season.
That's going to help develop your quarterback. You're number one
overall this that's going to help develop him.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
No, they got to find a person that's going develop him.
But it's okay to just let him get some some
real game reps until they do, just gi some of
these real game reps this year. We're going to bring
in somebody to help develop you in the off season,
and we're going to get things right. Same thing they
did with Caleb Williams. You know, give it is coach,
find a guy that wants to, you know, take on

(30:07):
that challenge, same thing they did with Tua like that.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Norm.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
I do wonder too if there was a little bit of.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Behind the scenes when you know, Brian Callahan may have
gotten frustrated with someone With cam Moore, he talked about it,
and I want to say one of his final press
conferences that just cam Ward needs to play better too.
And if you look at you know, some of the
guys who're they're kind of time to throw.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Who holds onto the football? Cam Ward holds onto the
football the.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Fifth most of any starting quarterback that qualifies. So basically,
if you're throwing fifty three attempts or more, you're in
this category. He holds on the football for almost three seconds,
which is is really long. Like usually you know, if
you look at for example, Rogers, there's some of the
top guys two and a half seconds, Mahomes two point

(30:59):
six seconds, and I know it's like, all right, we're
talking about like half a second. That half a second
is the difference between a sack, a tip ball, misthrow,
whatever happens. I mean, you could go in down the
lift Stafford two point six'. Eight so the general you,
know two point seven For. Baker the general point IS
i do wonder if there was a sense of frustration

(31:21):
with Cam warden his kind of style of, play how
he was, playing because you, know looking at him From,
miami looking at him At, tennessee you, know he's gonna
hold on the, football he's gonna try to make a,
play he's going to try to do. Something, unfortunately with
with the way THE nfl, is it's really hard to
do the same things you did in college in THE.
Nfl and there's gonna be times too where you just

(31:42):
get fly out sacked where you think you're gonna be
able to be a better athlete than the guys you're
going up against on, defense and you quickly realize these
guys are are much.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Better than what was at the other.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
Level SO i kind of wonder if there was like
a growing sense of frustration, where you, know maybe there
was an, argument maybe there was like a you, know
the the you, know he just kind of got to
a boiling point Between Brian callahan and camboredon.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
The whole thing behind the.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Scenes maybe didn't get, out but maybe that was like
one of the breaking points too for the organization saying all,
right like now's the, time.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Like we just we need to move. On this isn't
this isn't good for anyone.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Involved M i, mean they got a long road to
go to try to become a good and competitive team
and they probably are going to get that ass spanked
By Mike rabel and and The. Patriots it's interesting because
you gotta believe that he's petty.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Too you gotta Believe Mike rabel is going to be.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Petty so whatever it is he can do to stick
it in and then and then turn, it turn the.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Knife is that?

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Though, no you, know you know it, isn't but it
is right fired and get your get, back get your get,
right you know WHAT i. Mean but it could be
considered to be petty just the way he may do
something might be an extra, score might be a moment
where they call time out to get an extra you,
know a little few points on the, board or whatever

(33:05):
it may. Be but they did fire, you they, did
so you got to deal with what comes along with.
That and you gotta deal with. It what twice a
year they, played aren't they in the Same?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
No, No in The south A, South south And.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
East, yeah all, right well never, mind then you're gonna
have to deal with the work one.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
TIME i, mean maybe should The titans be?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
RELEGATED i Know brady's brought up the relegation system in, soccer,
like could maybe The titans just be, Relegated like who's
who's the best team in the A sec right?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Now that you could just slop.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Out miami Probably, Miami, yeah bring, up bring up The
hurricanes and.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Or maybe the punishment is is that if you're as
bad as The titans or The, jets you have to play.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Overseas LIKE i, mean if you're really.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Really looking into the, future if you're really looking in the,
future that is like kind.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Of an interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
THING i love, it, MAN i, Really i'm.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
SERIOUS i would love to see that where because because
that's what you have in.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
You, Know English Premier. League so he's their.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Leagues you have you, know bigger, cities you know who
are you, know able to pay you know more and
have bigger stadiums and all that for, somebody some smaller. Clubs,
somebody smaller clubs find their way up and then once
they get paid from THE tv you, Know metia rights,
deal they build on their roster and hopefully they stay
up there and continue to. Build it doesn't always happen that,

(34:29):
way but it'd be fascinating to, see like if all
of a, sudden one, day you, know you had like
The jets were relegated and The buckeyes were promoted up
in THE.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Nfl at one point in, TIME i believe it was
like in the. Eighties, WELL i forget exactly when.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Bust like the College All, Stars, yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
And All stars used to to play against a pro, Team,
YEAH i. REMEMBER i don't know if it Was belichick
that told the story with somebody that told story about
how they saw Sweetness Walter peyton playing in This All
star game AGAINST i want to, say The, steelers and
they said he was busting their. Asses they Said Walter

(35:19):
peyton was making them dudes like they were sitting there like.
Wow and he's a college, guy he's College all, star
small college guys, spanking, Spanking.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
AND i want to say that was like The Steel
curtain spanking.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Them, YEAH i mean that would be the. Seventies i'm
just saying it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
Wild BUT i mean to think where we are now with,
nil how long guys may stay in COLLEGE i mean
you have you you probably have a fair share of
guys that are in college that are older than guys
that are in the.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Pros that's. True it's not a, lot but it's.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
TRUE i mean, AGAIN i MEAN i don't at least
the same. Age you, know at least twenty one to
twenty two, range twenty, three old and.

Speaker 11 (36:11):
Dependable we're going out for you know on. Provo oh they're.
Old they go out on, there they go out on their.
Missions come back two years later.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
At twenty six years, old you, know.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Come, back get their game on thrown as.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Men they have.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
FAMILIES i was knocking on doors last. Week now Now
i'm knocking heads.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Next, Right, yeah there you.

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manning who came into the season as The heisman. Favorite
they open up At, Columbus they lose a game. There
it doesn't go, well hasn't played all that, hot but

(39:02):
they do win The Red river.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
RIVALRY i have to say that quick say a quick.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Hand well, done well.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Done let me try It River Red River.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
REVERIE i told YOU i can't do. It that's Like Scooby,
DOO i can't do. It it's a real pain in the.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Uh But Arch, manning The texas quarterback with the very
familiar last, name spoke yesterday about quote blocking out the.

Speaker 12 (39:35):
NOISE i feel LIKE i try to do my best
and blocking out the, noise and then you get one
hundred text messages keep blocking out the noise like there
must there must be a lot of. Noise so, YEAH
i try my. Best you, know may someone will call.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Me one of the biggest flops and college, football.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
And how do you deal with?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
That, YEAH i didn't know.

Speaker 12 (39:56):
THAT i can tell you.

Speaker 11 (39:57):
Now.

Speaker 12 (39:59):
Yeah, NO i, mean, LOOK i wasn't playing well AND i.
Am i'm going to continue to get. Better but you,
know everyone has their own, opinion and it's it's good About.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
America so you get to freedom.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
Speech so it doesn't bother.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Me so sounds sounds like just like.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
You, know what's you know what's tough about this, is you,
know he kind of carries the flag for the for
the a lot of quarterbacks who are draft eligible and
who are talked about, This And i'll be, honest his
throwing motion has not looked the same to me this
year than it did last, Year SO i don't know
if mechanically he's doing something different or he did something

(40:40):
different in the. OFFSEASON i don't know if it's due
to an injuries playing Through i'm not sure what it.
Is but his arm slot is a lot lower than
what it was last year for the couple of starts
he made and during the TIMES i saw him out.
There So i'm not sure what to make of any of.
That only Hes Steve sarkesian, knows but just from watching,

(41:03):
film it doesn't look the same as it did last,
year And i'm not sure. Why but to his, point
he didn't play well early in the. Season he's playing.
Better the offense as a whole is playing, better but
he's the one that carries the flag for the. Rest
like he's received the most kind of blame or criticism than.

(41:25):
Anyone and what's shocking is if you went and looked
at And jonahs tried to look this, up if you,
can like the pre college, football like you know quarterbacks
who are draft, ELIGIBLE i mean none of them have played.
WELL i mean not to kick a guy ways down
Because Drew aler got, hurt But Drew aller did not
have anywhere close to the year people were. Anticipating Penn

(41:46):
state fans were. Hoping if we're just being, honest not even.
Close Club nick has not played well For, clemson at
least not up to expectations at the beginning of the.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Year Leonora, sellers he was a hot. Name, yeah he
has not played well at.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
ALL i, mean, honestly like a lot of the guys
who are draft eligible IN nfl teams who, were you,
know lining up to try to put themselves in position
maybe to take, One they're gonna have a hard time
evaluating this class because it has not been a good
year so.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Far Meyerbeer meyer hasn't played as.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
WELL i, mean granted they don't have a run, game
AND i will see that the worst in THE, sec
but he's been.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Inconsistent Leonora sellers TIE i.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
MENTIONED i just just. Mentioned it's all, right it's all.
GOOD i, mean you, know you kind of get the general.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
Point Like dante more to me At Fernando mendoza of
the two guys so far this year have played the.
Best if you're just looking at the, tape those would
be your top two. Quarterbacks Carson beck as, well he'd
be there'd be, one, two, Three maybe maybe those three.
Guys maybe some teams see them, differently BUT i would
if someone challenged me and, said oh, no so, no

(42:59):
it's those two guys like those those three have played
the best who are draft.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Eligible NOW i keep throwing my GUY. Cj car and.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
There he's not draft eligible, yet but he's played really
well so far this year for a retro, Refreshment i'd
put his taper up first.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Anyone but, so is.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It just coincidental that all these quarterbacks who were top
prospects going into the season have struggled or is this
maybe people have to reconsider not only preseason rankings from
a team to team, standpoint but where you stack these
players going into the.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Year, dude here's the.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
Thing it's tough in the media business because you got
to say like these outlandish things for things to go
viral or for people to pay. Attention and so there's
people who really want to go out there on a
limb and make these grand, proclamations and it's tough because
that's the world we live.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
In, like it's tough to grab people's.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Attention if if you just, said, YEAH i think he's
going to be pretty good this, year BUT i want
to get four you on five.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Six games in the, season and they didn't go on.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Viral, No and by the, way who's, listening who's driving
right now listening to this? Show goes all, right man
really really big on, him, Right, LIKE i, mean think
about a Few compared that to, Dating, YEAH i don't,
know she's she checks all the, boxes BUT i want
to get on like five or six seven dates BEFORE
i really get an, idea like most of us to be, like,

(44:24):
well that's kind of, reasonable but they'd be, like, oh
she must not be that, hot she must not be that, cool,
RIGHT i mean that that's that's literally how it. Is
like people make it seem as if like if these
guys don't hit the ground running and they don't play
the way up to our expectations and throw for five
hundred yards and six like they're.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
They're not even. GOOD i mean that that's that's the
tough part about being a.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
QUARTERBACK i think in today's, world especially for the guys
who entered in the NFL's, Rookies like we talked about
Cam mordon and Then LaVar alluded to it like another
number one overall draft pick whose head coach gets fi
and then it throws his, development it throws where it
goes from, there uh like to the. Win like you
have no idea if he's gonna look out and hopefully

(45:09):
they find a coach who can help, him or if he's.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Not but like, that it's become not the same thing in.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
College And i'm not sure if it's because these kids
are getting paid and the expectation now, is, hey they're
professional football. Players you, know they're making seven. Figures they
should be, criticized they should be subject to. THAT i
don't know if it's that part of it or, what
BUT i do feel like we forget this is a developmental,
sport especially this. Level like these kids are still evolving

(45:39):
and that's. Okay they're gonna make, mistakes and we tend
to not be very welcoming to.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
THAT i, guess why do Preseason All americans?

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Exist, well they, should it. Exists preseason All america is
your body of. Work, WELL i, mean you're the same,
person so you should be in theory as a Preseason All.
American you're just basically saying we're highlighting who we believe
to be the most elite. Player, yeah but you could Have,
well you were good last, year, yeah, correct and your
perceivably yeah, right so perceivably you should be good this.

(46:12):
YEAR i mean it's just a. Foreshadow, Again it's just
like the Label jonas.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Before the season was a Preseason.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
American i've lived up to the. HYPE i, mean some
would say your bets have. Not this week was.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Nice i've been called And brady can attest to. This
somebody stopped me and, said you're The Jeremiah love Of
Fox Sports, radio AND i, said, thanks.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Man no one has ever said.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
That they never said.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
That.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Never there's never been a comparison to you And Jeremiah
love in your entire, life in any, capacity in any.
Environment never, ever nor will there.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Be i'll ask.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Him oh my, gosh, LISTEN I i THINK i think
we have created at you, know in football, culture you
almost have to be perfect to be the guy that
wins The. Heisman AND i think we measure and we
weigh more specifically, quarterbacks but we also do. It we're

(47:17):
guilty of doing it to the other position groups as.
Well we'll do it to running, Back we'll do it to.
Receivers we'll do it to them as it applies to
are you are you.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
In position to win The?

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Heisman SO i don't think that when we're judging these
players and their shortcomings or you, know what the standard
is supposed to. BE i think guys are trying to
live up to and the, public the general public is
looking at guys trying to live up to what that
standard has been, created you, know whether whether for fair or,

(47:53):
weather for for not fair, weather for for you, know
maybe being legit and accurate or being. Inaccurate it's all
based off of are you living up to what the
standard of winning The heisman. Is it's like you're always.
Trying if you've been deemed A heisman, candidate it's like

(48:13):
you're living with the blessing of being recognized that, way
but you're also living with the curse of every single
thing you do is going to be scrutinized and it's
going to be broken, down it's going to be, analyzed
and people are going to talk about. It and if
it's short up like this is what's. Crazy if it's

(48:34):
short of, spectacular then it's not good. Enough and that's
like kind of what it turns out to. Be but
why why set the expectations at that when an entire
season needs to play out before you see what's real
and what's. Not like Cam, ward nobody at Cam ward
is as A heisman candidate last.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Year like it's a SELLING i don't know if that's.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
TRUE i not on my.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
List well, yeah but there was some people Who washington
At Washington state and had him as like a dark.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
HORSE i just thought it's a it's a.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Selling it's a selling, point just like a preseason ranking
is a selling. Point it's a way for you to
sell the product even more develop the.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Product why do you need to do?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Market what do you? Mean it's?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Great why do you what? What it sells itself when
the game.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
Started here's the thing, is if, you're for, example if
you're not In, oklahoma not In texas OR i should
say not A Texas longhorn, fan do you care about Red?

Speaker 3 (49:34):
River?

Speaker 4 (49:35):
NO i mean, honestly, like do you? Care?

Speaker 5 (49:37):
No? No but if you throw some rankings, fan if
you're a big, fan you might. Yeah but but if
you throw.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Some rankings next to, him you market the fact that,
hey you know one of The, mannings you got the
Next manning coming, through he's getting a part of, this.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Which makes people better if you Say manning up for The,
heisman cause it's, LIKE i, know he's A. Manning that
makes it. Interesting if you're saying he's A manning that's
up for The, heisman then now you've given me the
message that he's going to be as, spectacular as as
impressive as his.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Uncles his.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Uncles, yeah he didn't have a chance to live up
to the hype this. Year you always have a, chance
that's the cool thing about. It but a lot of
times you don't live up to. IT i, mean that's just.
It that's the reality of.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
It in defense of Arch, MANNING i do feel like
it was astronomical and, honestly like we Had Ohio State.
Texas you, know we played a small role in. That
and then, Look i'll be, HONEST i was excited to
see him. Play and it Just i'm telling, you, man
something doesn't look right with his, motion the way he's you,

(50:44):
know throwing the football this year compared to what it
looked like last. Year And i'd have to go back and,
look but it just it does not look the. Same
the armslot looks, lower there's not as. Much, honestly WHEN
i watched his. Ball it doesn't rotate the way it
did Ye, like it's like there's not as many revolutions
on the, ball and So i'm not sure if that's

(51:05):
a byproduct of something he's changed his grip, is you,
know how he's throwing. It it just it doesn't look the.
Same my best guess would be there's a shoulder issue
that would need to be cleaned up in the, offseason
and he's playing through it.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
For a number of.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
Reasons it could be because you, know he wants to
tough it, out he wants to be the, leader he
wants to play through. This it could be that they
don't feel great about the depth they have there behind.
Him i'm sure there's a lot of guys who when
they went there that are, like, Well i'm not playing
anytime soon with arches.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Here so there could be some of, That but that's.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
That's the only THING i can think, of because you,
know typically if you look at the biomechanics of a throwing, motion,
right like everything from your feet up if you're, injured
is going to impact it to some. Degree but like
the snap at the end of it and then watching
the ball, spin you know that shouldn't be. Impacted it's
not impacted by anything for the lower, body it's impacted

(52:05):
by something from the torso up and it's just watching,
it it's just it's. Weird, again this is Not AND
i even went back and watched his starts last year
just to, compare Because i'm, like AM i seeing something
or AM i like making something?

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Up and there's just something. Off it doesn't look the.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
SAME i, think what even all that being?

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Said if he comes in with the type of hype
that was behind him and he plays well through in
spite of, it through it, all that's what it's like
for every story where you don't live up to the,
expectation or you you have a drop, off or it
doesn't play out the way that maybe people wanted it

(52:44):
to play. Out there are times it. Does there are
times where it does play out like you think about
like a.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Joke iven never seen a.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Dude it is hyped up as But Joe, BURROW i
think guys Are Joe burrow wasn't hyped up like That Joe.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Burrow's first year AT. Lsu but it was his first
seven eight games seed play that. Great it wasn't til
the second half of that season and then they really,
started like going through these tough games and he was
playing lights out and then that. Built but like there's there,
was there's never been as much hype as there was
for Arch manning a week one and before the season in.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
All, seriousness and that's not a detriment to.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
Him but, Dude, LeVar but trust, me people were talking
about him being the number one overall. Pick people talk
about being the Heavy heisman. FAVORITE i, mean it's it's
not even.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
CLOSE i don't.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
KNOW i, MEAN i think about guys Like Andrew luck
and going into their last, season not Even Andrew.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Luck, dude it's not a big enough. Brand this Is,
texas this is ut.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
And this is the team that, was by the, way
the odds on febite to win the national.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
CHAMPIONSHIP i would offer you the same.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Reason and you just said about the river. RIVALRY i.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
DON'T i, MEAN i don't think that applies an appeal
that's appealing THAT.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Everyonex fans are pretty.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
OBNOXIOUS i get it with their their, COMMUNITY i get.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
That but to say.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
That i'm telling you, this then, yes you're talking about
the last name a huge college brand studio with the
season started.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Two starts and he was the odds on favorite to
the two, starts and teams in THE nfl were going
to tank for his services next year off two.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
STARTS i get, that BUT i mean there have been
some much. Hype, EVER i, mean, you, okay you don't
have a problem with?

Speaker 5 (54:29):
It were you? GUYS i, mean if that's how y'all
want to roll with, it y'all roll with it that.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
WAY i don't.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
NECESSARILY i think there's been a lot of guys throughout
the years that have.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Been, truly truly truly hyped up athletes coming into the.
Season were you, guys regardless OF.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
I, was And i'm sure ca, listen the bottom line
is is that even if you are the most hyped,
ever LIKE i don't want to get caught up on
one one line item of being hyped up going there
have been plenty of guys that are hype going into a,
season no, worries and at the, end for, me either

(55:06):
you're going to live up to the hype or you're.
Not like that's ultimately How i've always looked at anybody
that's come into, it whether it's a, quarterback running, back.
RECEIVER i, mean that's what you're. SAYING i JUST i
just you gotta when you're on That heisman, list like
whether it was Was Johnny football Or.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Tim saying that in saying, that most guys who are
on That heisman, list To jonas's, point they've played.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Games he had started two.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
Games, No i'm not, Listen i'm not, disputing, like no
one's on A heisman list after starting two games the next.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Year it's just.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Very very rare as far as the, favorite like we're
not talking about he's on a, List LeVar like always
a preseason, no, no, no, no he was the betting. Favorite
texas was the betting favorite to win the national. CHAMPIONSHIP
i get.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
It it's it's but you still you still have to
prove out or. Not, yeah obviously by standard of what
what's being, Represented like nobody disputed. It nobody came out
from The manning. Family is, like, listen don't say nothing about.
Him he didn't come out and, say don't say nothing about.
ME i, mean And i'm not saying he needed to

(56:21):
or anybody else needed. To the hype is the. Hype
if you're able to hype train it and connect that
that caboose to to somebody that's going to carry, it
you do. It we had a fifth round draft pick
carrying an ENTIRE nfl. Draft if you if you find
something that you can hype up and you can link,
to you do. It that's All i'm. Saying and you

(56:41):
can live up to the hype where you. Cannot but
what was you what it was used?

Speaker 4 (56:45):
For it?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Worked there was a lot of. Hype it.

Speaker 6 (56:49):
Worked speaking of hype and the Whole jersey, RETIREMENT i
think they're just now Retiring Cordell, Stewart is that?

Speaker 3 (56:56):
RIGHT i don't know they decided to do.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
That huh, yeah it's, like let's have offset this a little,
bit LIKE i.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
THINK i have. To you can go.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Check someone had told me that BECAUSE i kind of
haven't been paying as much. Attention i've been watching them on,
film but obviously you, know see who's not getting as
much attention as they were last.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Year but it's and that's the whole nother.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
CONVERSATION i, guess, ummmm it's not been, retired but he's
in The Colorado Sports hall Of fame twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Class like it took that.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
LONG i think they're looking to retire it or. Something
would you watch Your jersey?

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Retire? Yeah, No jonas. Conversation you're not a part Of,
SORRY I.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
I, wouldn't only because LIKE i don't understand the. Significance
and also LIKE i remember being young and like there
was a reason why you wore the number ten at
my high, School like that was, significant that was. Meaningful,
unfortunately since, then it's kind of like lost its way
because you, know times change and kids want to have
their own. Number but like it's kind of like in,

(58:12):
soccer you know when someone is donning, ten you're, LIKE
i know that guy's.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Good it was like that too at my high.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
School so it had importance for me for like that
lineage of guys who came before me and then hopefully
guys who came, After and that was one of the
reasons WHY i was important.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
WHEN i was in.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
College are in That Notre? DAME i, Mean i'm not
sure how you put, that but, yeah a quarterback. Position hell,
YEAH i Mean Matt levekio was ten before. Me if
you remember, that, well, okay but that's kind of the general.
POINT i, mean there wasn't any All. Americans there weren't
Any player of The. Year that, sure all, right but

(58:53):
but but the point, is LIKE i wouldn't never want
to stop a kid who loves that, number who wants
to go, there and then you, know wants to wear
It like it's like if it was, Retired i'd, say
Then i'm. Retired let the kid wear.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
IT i Mean.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
Dame, chris who is a bigger recruit THAN i, was
when he came To Notre day he, Asked he's, like,
HEY i want to.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Wear the number.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
TEN i was, like, awesome, man go rocket, go you,
know create your own story you.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
Started ALL i know, is, man when you start a
number and you understand how important that number, is why
would you ever want it to be out of?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Circulation?

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Now the question is like you understand because of eleven right.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Now but the question, becomes do you play a part
and who wears that ten At Notre dame because, well
if you're the reason, why then you should be involved
with them in the process of wearingtons as a.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
Quarterback now as a, KIDS i just, said like one
of the big recruits Team, chris who came from Southern,
california he had come to me and it's, like, HEY
i want to wear the number.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Ten, yeah of course love that so.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Yeah for a period of, time but it's also like
twenty years, Removed So i'm kind of not that guy
WHERE i can turn the page AND i can say, like,
Hey we've got a couple of different coaches since.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Then i'm not going to go around being, like, hey,
man make sure you got that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Quarterback we're at.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Ten you, Know i'm Just i'm not that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Guy it works more organically than, that you know WHAT i? Mean, like,
right it's based off of the reputation of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
It they need to ask your. PERMISSION i, mean he
should be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Involved he definitely like where we're like where we're at
with the, nil where it's at, Now Like Brady quinn
should be making a residual off of every ten jersey
that is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Sold greed, like AND i.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Don't while we're egging him on and we're, joking, LIKE
i am making a serious point right. Now if you
were able to build a brand behind a, number and
that number is actually thriving and has become a part
of the fabric of that that culture and that fan,
base the people that built it should benefit from.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
It well that's and that's what mcwad's doing with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Eleven, yeah, see you're fighting, back but that's. Good that's
a good little that's a good little.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Fight that's called. For was going to you, know it's uncalled.
FOR i took it down a serious, lane but we
were A.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
I, KNOW i can't be serious, though you know it's
too early to be serious in the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
MORNING i have no issues With matt mcglowing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Either by the, way, QUARTERBACK i hope they would not
try to retire eleven based off Of matt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Mcglowing how about. That you think they'll retire In.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Tijuana they're not going to Retire. Jersey they're gonna retire
your mail block. Number that's what they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Retire.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
YEAH i was just gonna ask, that will they retire
the mic? Condom like a?

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
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Done there are some good things that, happen and there's some,
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good bad and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Ugly all, Right Ian, roddy who's got what this?

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
Week, yeah that's, right the, good the, bad and the.
Ugly let's start with. This let's start with the good
that this week belongs To Sheriff LeVar. Arrington what do we,
think LeVar oh, man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
What is good this?

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Week, Well i'll say, THIS i THINK i think our
college football has been, good even though it's been. BAD i,
mean it could have been a great week for me
to do ugly obviously what's taking place With Penn, state
but all in, all just looking at the way games
have played, out you, know looking at the WAY usc is.

(01:03:45):
Playing they just got a big, win seeing like the
parody and seeing some top top teams go down while
some teams not so highly rated have played well and gotten.
VICTORIES i think it's been a super super entertaining college
football season so. Far So i'll say that's a good,
thing all.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
Right next up the Bad Sheriff Jonas, knox what do
you got this week for the?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Bad in?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Sports we got to go all the way To london
for the bad because whatever THE nfl put on display
for those, fans and we talked about it On, monday
like it's you, know it's not about you, know the
quality of the, Game it's about the. Atmosphere what it's,
like the. EXCITEMENT i don't know who was excited watching
The broncos and The. Jets that game was, awful. Awful

(01:04:31):
The broncos defense is. Tremendous they get after the quarterback
better than anybody in THE. Nfl but whatever anybody Thought
Aaron glenn was going to do differently for that, organization
and whatever anybody thought That Justin fields could bring that
team That Aaron rodgers. COULDN'T i have no idea what
you were. Thinking that team, Stinks that game. Sucked that

(01:04:52):
was my bad for the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Week the field is still holding onto the football. Somewhere
but let's end.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
It let's end it with the Ugly Sheriff Brady, quinn
what you got for?

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Us what was ugly this week in? Sports All?

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
Right i'm not gonna say that The Penn state firing
Of James franklin's. Ugly what's ugly about it is how
people Treat James franklin his.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Family you, know that's the ugly sport part of all this.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Is And, LeVar i know you talked about, this Like
bill O'Brien was there for a couple of, years But
James franklin really came To Penn state after they received
probably the closest thing to a death penalty and helped create,
stability help build a, foundation help Make Penn state kind
of relevant. AGAIN i, mean they're playing for the national,

(01:05:45):
championship The planet semi, final and they were damn close last,
year and it's just it's crazy to me how fast
things can. CHANGE i was just talking to a, buddy
a neighbor whose wife went To Penn, state and we're,
like sixteen, days, man you're up a touchdown and, overtime
you win, that you're probably viewed as one of the
top two teams in college, football on a clear path

(01:06:06):
towards making the college football.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Playoff and sixteen days.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
You, know now eighteen days later or whatever it, is you,
know you lose a couple of games and now your
coach is fired and who knows the direction of the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Program but it goes back to the initial.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
Point just stop with the you, know comments On James
franklin and his family and like they don't deserve, That
like no one deserves. That you don't need to be
nasty about. It James franklin did the best job that
he could do while he was, there and no one
wanted them to win more than.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Him regardless of what you want to say about the.

Speaker 6 (01:06:39):
Buyout SO i just hope, people whether it's in person
people on social, media.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Can stop the ugliness with that. Stuff, man it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
DESERVED i was talking To LeVar about this On monday
when we were coming in that there's a scene where
after the game On, saturday he's walking off the field
with his daughter and she looks.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
Terrifying, oh they be saying some wild stuff to, him
bro maybe saying some wild, stuff and he generally tells
them not to walk With he tells her not to
walk with, him but she does.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
It she stands in there with. Him they be saying
some wild stuff, though