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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bye for the record, I've got my song picked out.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh to you. That's good.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, but it's only gonna be you guys said, two
weeks is the minimum. It's got to be on like
that'll time out?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
No just right, no, no, no, no, no. Two weeks is
not the minimum.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Can I change it? After two weeks?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is gonna get old quick?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Then do it after a week?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
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and subscribe. Kind of a wild year for arch Manning,
who came into the season as the Heisman favorite. They
open up at Columbus, They lose a game there. It
doesn't go well. He hasn't played all that hot, but

(01:04):
they do win the Red River rivalry. I have to
say that quick say, quick hand, well done, well done.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Let me try it. River Reverie, Red River Reverie.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I told you I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's like Scooby Doo.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I can't do it. It's a real pain in the uh.
But Arch Manning, the Texas quarterback with the very familiar
last name, spoke yesterday about quote blocking out the noise.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I feel like I try to do my best and
blocking out the noise, and then you get one hundred
text messages keep blocking out the noise like there must
there must be a lot of noise.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
So yeah, I try my best. You know, there's someone
will call me one of the biggest flops in college football,
and how do you deal with that? Yeah, I didn't
know that. I guess tell you now.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah No, I mean, look, I wasn't playing well and
I am.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I'm going to continue to get better.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
But you know, everyone has their own opinion, and it's
it's good about America, so you get to freedom speech.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
So it doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So it sounds sounds like just like you know, what's
you know what's tough about this is you know, he
kind of carries the flag for the for the a
lot of quarterbacks who are draft eligible and who are
talked about this, And I'll be honest, his throwing motion
has not looked the same to me this year than
it did last year. So I don't know if mechanically

(02:40):
he's doing something different or he did something different in
the offseason. I don't know if it's due to an
injuries playing through I'm not sure what it is, but
his arm slot is a lot lower than what it
was last year for the couple of starts he made
and during the times I saw him out there. So
I'm not sure what to make of any of that.

(03:01):
Only he knows. Steve Sarkesian knows, but just from watching film,
it doesn't look the same as it did last year.
And I'm not sure why. But to his point, he
didn't play well early in the season. He's playing better.
The offense as a whole is playing better. But he's
the one that carries the flag for the rest. Like

(03:23):
he's received the most kind of blame or criticism than anyone.
And what's shocking is if you went and looked at
and Jonahs tried to look this up, if you can
like the pre college football, Like, you know, quarterbacks who
are draft eligible, I mean, none of them have played well.
I mean not to kick a guy ways down because
Drew Aler got hurt, but Drew Aller did not have

(03:45):
anywhere close to the year people were anticipating. Penn State
fans were hoping. If we're just being honest, not even close.
Club Nick has not played well for Clemson at least
not up to expectations at the beginning of the year,
the North Sellers, he was a hot name. Yeah, he
has not played well at all. I mean, honestly, like

(04:06):
a lot of the guys who are draft eligible in
NFL teams who were you know, lining up to try
to put themselves in position maybe to take one, They're
gonna have a hard time evaluating this class because it
has not been a good year so far. Meyer Gerin s.
Meyer hasn't played as well. I mean, granted they don't
have a run game, and I will see that the

(04:26):
worst in the SEC, but he's been inconsistent less time. Yeah,
I mentioned. I just just mentioned. It's all right. I mean,
you know, you kind of get the general point. Like
Dante Moore to me at Fernando Mendoza of the two
guys so far this year have played the best. If

(04:47):
you're just looking at the tape, those would be your
top two quarterbacks. Carson Beck as well. He'd bet there'd
be one, two, three. Maybe maybe those three guys. Maybe
some teams see them differently, but I would if someone
challenged me, oh no, So I'm like, no, it's those
three guys, Like those three have played the best who
are draft eligible? Now I keep throwing my guy CJ.

(05:08):
Car and there. He's not draft eligible yet, but he's
played really well so far this year for a retro refreshman,
I'd put his taper up first anyone.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
But so, is it just coincidental that all these quarterbacks
who were top prospects going into the season have struggled
or is this maybe people have to reconsider not only
preseason rankings from a team to team standpoint, but where
you stack these players going into the year.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Dude, here's the thing. It's tough in the media business
because you got to say like these outlandish things for
things to go viral or for people to pay attention.
And so there's people who really want to go out
there on a limb and make these grand proclamations and
it's tough because that's the world we live in. Like

(05:56):
it's tough to grab people's attention. If you just said, yeah,
I think he's going to be pretty good this year,
but I want to get four you on five.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Six games in the season and they didn't go on viral.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, by the way, who's listening, who's driving right now
listening to this show? Goes all right? Man really really
big on him? Right, Like, I mean, think about if
you have compared that to dating. Yeah, I don't know,
she's she checks all the boxes, but I want to
get on like five or six seven dates before I
really get an idea, like most of us to be like, well,

(06:26):
that's kind of reasonable, but they'd be like, oh, she
must not be that hot, she must not be that cool, right,
I mean that's that's literally how it is. Like people
make it seem as if like if these guys don't
hit the ground running and they don't play the way
up to our expectations and throw for five hundred yards
and six like they're they're noting good. I mean that

(06:48):
that's that's the tough part about being a quarterback, I
think in today's world, especially for the guys who entered
in the NFL's rookies. Like we talked about cam Morden
and then LaVar alluded to it like another number one
overall draft pick whose head coach gets fired and then
it throws his development, it throws where it goes from there,

(07:08):
like to the win, Like you have no idea if
he's gonna look out and hopefully they find a coach
who can help him or if he's not. But it's
become not the same thing in college. And I'm not
sure if it's because these kids are getting paid and
the expectation now is, hey, they're professional football players. You know,
they're making seven figures. They should be criticized, they should
be subject to that. I don't know if it's that

(07:31):
part of it or what, but I do feel like
we forget this is a developmental sport, especially this level,
Like these kids are still evolving and that's okay. They're
gonna make mistakes, and we tend to not be very
welcoming to that.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I guess, why do preseason all Americans exist?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, they should, it exists. Preseason all America is your
body of work. Well, I mean, you're the same person,
so you should be In theory, as a preseason All American.
You're just basically saying, we're highlighting who we believe to
be the most elite player.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, but you could have well, you were good last year, yeah, correct,
and you're perceivably yeah right, so perceivably you should be
good this year.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I mean, it's just a foreshadow. And again it's just like.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Jonas before the season was a preseason.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I've lived up to the hype.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean, some would say your bets have not. This
week was nice.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I've been called and Brady can attest to this. Somebody
stopped me and said, you're the Jeremiah Love of Fox
Sports Radio, and I said.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Thanks man.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
No one has ever said that.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
They never said that.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Never. There's never been a comparison to you and Jeremiah
Love in your entire life, in any capacity, in any environment.
Never ever, nor will there be.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
I'll ask him, Oh my gosh, listen. I think I
think we have created at you know, in football culture,
you almost have to be perfect to be the guy
that wins the Heisman. And I think we measure and
we weigh more specifically quarterbacks, but we also do it.

(09:19):
We're we're guilty of doing it to the other position
groups as well. We'll do it to running back, we'll
do it to to receivers, We'll do it to them
as it applies to are you are you in position
to win the Heisman? So I don't think that when
we're judging these players and their shortcomings or you know,

(09:40):
what the standard is supposed to be. I think guys
are trying to live up to and the public, the
general public is looking at guys trying to live up
to what that standard has been created, you know, whether
whether for fair or weather, for for not fair weather,
for for you know, may being legit and accurate or

(10:02):
being inaccurate. It's all based off of are you living
up to what the standard of winning the Heisman is.
It's like you're always trying. If you've been deemed a
Heisman candidate, it's like you're living with the blessing of
being recognized that way, but you're also living with the

(10:23):
curse of every single thing you do is going to
be scrutinized and it's going to be broken down, it's
going to be analyzed, and people are going to talk
about it. And if it's short up, like this is
what's crazy. If it's short of spectacular, then it's not
good enough, and that's like kind of what it turns

(10:44):
out to be.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
But why why set the expectations at that when an
entire season needs to play out before.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You see what's real and what's not.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like cam Ward, nobody at cam Ward is as a
Heisman candidate last year.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's a selling I don't know if that's true. Actually
not on my list.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well yeah, but there was some people who washed them
at Washington State and had him as like a dark horse.

Speaker 6 (11:09):
I just thought it's a it's a selling it's a
selling point, just like a preseason ranking is a selling point.
It's a way for you to sell the product even more,
develop the product.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why do you need to do market?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
What do you mean? It's great?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Why do you what what? It sells you when the
game started?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Here's the thing is, if you were, for example, if
you're not in Oklahoma, not in Texas or I should
say not a Texas Longhorn fan, do you care about
Red River?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean honestly, like, do you care?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
But if you throw some rankings, if you're a big fan,
you might, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
But but if you throw some rankings next to them,
you market the fact that, hey, you know one of
the Mannings, you got the next Manning coming through. He's
getting part of this.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Which makes people better if you say Manning up for
the Heisman, cause it's like, I know, he's a Manning.
That makes it interesting. If you're saying he's a Manning
that's up for the Heisman, then now you've given me
the message that he's going to be as spectacular, as
as impressive as his uncles his uncle.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, he didn't have a chance to live up to
the hype this year.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
You always have a chance, that's the cool thing about it,
But a lot of times you don't live up to it.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, that's just it. That's the reality of it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
In defense of arch Manning, I do feel like it
was astronomical and honestly, like we had Ohio State Texas.
You know, we played a small role in that. And
then look, I'll be honest, I was excited to see
him play, and it just I'm telling you, man, something
doesn't look right with his motion the way he's you know,

(12:47):
throwing the football this year compared to what it looked
like last year. And I'd have to go back and look,
but it just it does not look the same, and
the armslot looks lower. There's not as much. Honestly, when
I watched his ball, it doesn't rotate the way it
did last year, Like it's like there's not as many
revolutions on the ball. And so I'm not sure if
that's a byproduct of something he's changed his grip is,

(13:10):
you know, how he's throwing it. It just it doesn't
look the same. My best guess would be there's a
shoulder issue that would need to be cleaned up in
the offseason, and he's playing through it for a number
of reasons. It could be because you know, he wants
to tough it out, he wants to be the leader,

(13:31):
he wants to play through this. It could be that
they don't feel great about the depth they have there
behind him. I'm sure there's a lot of guys who
when they went there, they are like, well, I'm not
playing anytime soon with arches here. So there could be
some of that, But that's that's the only thing I
can think of, because you know, typically if you look
at the biomechanics of a throwing motion, right like, everything

(13:53):
from your feet up if you're injured, is going to
impact it to some degree, but like the snap at
the end of it and watching the ball spin, you
know that shouldn't be impacted. It's not impacted by anything.
For the lower body, it's impacted by something from the
torso up and it's just watching it. It's just it's weird. Again,

(14:13):
this is not And I even went back and watched
this starts last year just to compare, because I'm like,
am I seeing something or am I like making something up?
And there's just something off. It doesn't look the same.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I think, what even all that being said? If he
comes in with the type of hype that was behind
him and he plays well through in spite of it,
through it all, That's what it's like for every story
where you don't live up to the expectation, or you
you have a drop off, or it doesn't play out

(14:44):
the way that maybe people wanted it to play out.
There are times it does. There are times where it
does play out. Like you think about like a Joe govern.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Never seen a dude. It is hyped up as but
Joe Burrow, I think guys are Joe Burrow wasn't hyped
up like that Joe Burrow's first year at LSU, but
it was his first seven eight games, he didn't play
that great. It wasn't until the second half of that
season and then they really started like going through these
tough games and he was playing lights out and then
that built. But like there's there was, there's never been

(15:14):
as much hype as there was for arch Manning a
week one and before the season in all seriousness, and
that's not a detriment to him. But dude, LeVar, but
trust me, people were talking about him being the number
one overall pick. People talk about being the heavy Heisman favorite.
I mean, it's it's not even close.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
I mean, I think about guys like Andrew Luck and
going into their last season, not.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Even Andrew Luck. Dude, it's not a big enough brand.
This is Texas, this is ut and this is the
team that was, by the way, the odds on favorite
to win the national championship.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
I would offer you the same reason. And you just
said about the River rivalry.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean, I don't think that applies an appeal that's
appealing that everyone EXAs fans are pretty obnoxious.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I get it in their their community, I get that,
But to say that to this, I'm telling you this.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, you're talking about the last name, a huge college
brand studio with the season started two.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Starts, and he was the odds on favorite to the
two starts, and teams in the NFL were going to
tank for his services next year off two starts.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
I get that, but I mean there have been some
much hype. Ever, I mean you, okay, you don't have
a problem with it?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Were you? Guys?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
I mean, if that's how y'all want to roll with it,
y'all roll with it that way. I don't necessarily. I
think there's been a lot of guys throughout the years
that have been truly, truly truly hyped up athletes coming
into the season.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Were you, regardless of pres I.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Was, and I'm sure c listen, the bottom line is
is that even if you are the most hyped ever,
Like I don't want to get caught up on one
one line item of being hyped up going there have
been plenty of guys that are hyped going into a season,
no worries, and at the end, for me, either you're

(17:08):
going to live up to the hype or you're not.
Like that's ultimately how I've always looked at anybody that's
come into it, whether it's a quarterback, running back, receiver.
I mean, that's what you're saying. I just, I just
you gotta when you're on that Heisman list, like whether
it was was Johnny Football Tall or.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Tim Okabe saying that in saying that, most guys who
are on that Heisman list, to Jonas's point, they've played games.
He had started two games. Yet No, I'm not listen,
I'm not disputing like, no one's on a Heisman list
after starting two games the next year. It's just very

(17:47):
very rare as far as the favorite, like we're not
talking about he's on a list, LeVar like always a
preseason no, no, no, no, he was the betting favorite. Texas
was the betting favorite to win the National champions I
get it.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
It's it's but you still you still have to prove
out or not. Yeah, obviously by standard of what what's
being represented, Like nobody disputed it. Nobody came out from
the Manning family. Is like, listen, don't say nothing about him.
He didn't come out and say, don't say nothing about me.
I mean, and I'm not saying he needed to or

(18:23):
anybody else needed to. The hype is the hype if
you're able to hype train it and connect that that
caboose to somebody that's going.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
To carry it. You do it.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
We had a fifth round draft pick carrying an entire
NFL draft. If you if you find something that you
can hype up and you can link to, you do it.
That's all I'm saying. And you can live up to
the hype or you cannot. But what was you what
it was used for?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It worked?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
There was a lot of hypt it worked.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Speaking of hype and the whole Jersey retirement, I think
they're just now retiring Cordell Stewart, Is that right?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I don't know they decided to do that.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Huh yeah, it's like, let's offset this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Like I think I have to you go check. Someone
had told me that because I kind of haven't been
paying as much attention. I've been watching them on film.
But obviously they you know, see who's not getting as
much attention as they were last year. But it's and
that's the whole other conversation.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I guess, ummmm, it's not been retired, but he's in
the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame twenty twenty six class.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like they took that long.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I think they're looking to retire it or something.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Would you watch your jersey retire? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
No, jonas conversation, you're not a part of Sorry.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
I.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I wouldn't, only because like I don't understand the significance.
And also, like I remember being young and like there
was a reason why you wore the number ten at
my high school, Like that was significant, that was meaningful. Unfortunately,
since then, it's kind of like lost its way because
you know, times change and kids want to have their
own number. But like it's kind of like in soccer,

(20:15):
you know when someone is donning ten, you're like, I
know that guy's good. It was like that too at
my high school. So it had importance for me for
like that lineage of guys who came before me and
then hopefully guys who came after, And that was one
of the reasons why I was important when I was
in college.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Are the original in that notre dame?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I mean, I'm not sure how you put that, but yeah,
a quarterback position, Hell yeah, I mean Matt Levekio was
ten before me if you remember yet. Well, okay, but
that's kind of the general point. I mean, there wasn't
any all Americans. There weren't any player of the year.
You're sure, all right, but but but the point is,

(20:56):
like I wouldn't never want to stop a kid who
loves that number, who wants to go there, and then
you know, wants to wear it. Like it's like if
it was retired, I'd say, then I'm retired. Let the
kid wear it. I mean Dane Chris, who is a
bigger recruit than I was, when he came to Notre
Day he asked, He's like, hey, I want to wear
the number ten. I was like, awesome, man, no rocket,

(21:18):
go you know, create your own story. You started.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
All I know is, man, when you start a number
and you understand how important that number is, why would
you ever want it to be out of circulation?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now? The question is like you understand because of eleven right.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Now, But the question becomes, do you play a part
and who wears that ten at Notre Dame because well,
if you're the reason why, then you should be involved
with them in the process of wearington as a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
As again, as I just said, like one of the
big recruits team, Chris, who came from Southern cal he
had come to me and it's like, hey, I want
to wear the number ten. Yeah, of course love that,
so yeah, for a period of time. But it's also
like twenty years removed. So I'm kind of not that
guy where I can turn the page and I can
say like, hey, We've got a couple of different coaches

(22:16):
since then. I'm not going to go around being like, hey, man,
make sure you got that quarterback. We're at ten. You know,
I'm just I'm not that guy.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
It works more organically than that, you know what I mean, Like, right,
it's based off of the reputation of it.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
They need to ask your permission. I mean, he should
be involved.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
He definitely like where we're like where we're at with
the nil, where it's at now, Like Brady Quinn should
be making a residual off of every ten jersey that.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Is soldreed, like, and I don't.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
While we're agging him on and we're joking, like, I
am making a serious point right now.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
If you were able to build.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
A brand behind a number and that number is is
is actually thriving and has become a part of the
fabric of that that culture and that fan base, the
people that built it should benefit from it.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I could, well, that's and that's what mcwad's doing with eleven.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yeah, see you're fighting back, but that's that's a good
little that's a good little fight.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's called for. Was going to you know, it's uncalled for.
I took it down a serious lane, but we were.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
A I know, I can't be serious though, you know
it's too early to be serious in the morning.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I have no issues with Matt mcglowing either.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
By the way, quarterback, I hope they would not try
to retire eleven based off of Matt mcglowing.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You think they'll retirement in Tijuana.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
They're not going to retire Jersey. They're gonna retire your
block number. That's what they're gonnaire.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah. I was just gonna ask that, will they retire
the mic condom?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Like a case that we totally went off the rails.

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and he's going to be a pro, very very radio pro.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Basically right now, one of the best players in the country.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I hate him.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
He is.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Jeremiah Love notre Dame running back with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jeremiah, good morning. How are we feeling.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
I'm going down?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
What's up? Playmaker?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Are you ready to go or what?

Speaker 8 (25:08):
Man?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's a big week.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I wish it would have fell down versus Penn State
last year. I hate that you made such a great
highlight and and such an inspirational video against my alma mater.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
But you know, hey, yeah, that's what great players do, right, Yeah,
they do so for people that aren't, you know, that
haven't been a part of the rivalry like you and
Brady obviously have been. What is this week like on
campus for you guys as you prepare for USC?

Speaker 8 (25:45):
I was, like I said, it's a rivalry game. So
we think of you know, every game we play, it's
just just the next game that we played. But this
game has a little bit some to it more. It's
against USC. You all fighting for that Jewish chi, you know,
so don't keep it where it belongs. But yeah, it's
just a little bit of extra energy, you know, flowing around,

(26:06):
a little bit of extra hype. But at the end
of the day, we think of it as another game
that we're gonna play and go out there and dominate.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Let's get some business out of the way. First, are
a Jeremiah Because you know, we do an early morning
radio show. We're always looking for like some sort of
way to get us like up and ready to go
for our show. You got like an energy drink, energy
drink or anything else you can help us.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
With, Yes, sir, Celsius healthier man. So recently, you know,
I partner with us Celsias. I'm proud to be a
part of your team. Celsia is this football season, Celseia
has really been like the energy drink of college football.
You know, it's just it's just an honor being a
part of such an impressive roster that they have of

(26:49):
talent this year. You got me kay club me from Clemson,
you know, Caleb Downs from Ohio State, and then I
think Bright's Underwood from Michigan. So Celsius is the energy
drink of college football, and it powers me through my day,
through my football, through my academics. Like it's just my

(27:09):
go to energy drink. So Celsius man.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
So you live fit is what you're saying.

Speaker 8 (27:15):
I live fit every single day. And they you know,
Celsius is different from other energy drinks. I feel like
it is an alternative you know, over like your typic
of energy energy drinks with all the sugar and stuff,
Like Celsius has zero sugar. It has good vitamins in there.
Like it's just different. And like you said, you live

(27:36):
fit every single day. You want to be fit and
I think it supports, you know, my lifestyle, trying to
be fit and be the best person of myself.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Every single day.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
If I drink celsius, I can run like you. I could,
I could like hurdle people like you.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Man. It might bring in it. You're in it. You're
in it superpowers. Man. It might just you know, spark
something like.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
You know what I'm saying. If it could do that, Man,
I'm on, I'm getting old.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Bro. You could tell him the truth. You can tell
him the truth. You can tell him the truth.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Hey, look, I'll just hand off to you the whole
time watch the show Man.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
You talked about that fit lifestyle.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
You're you're a part of what live dot fit dot
go dot campaign. Talk to me about Talk to me
about that, I mean, and how is your health? I
may mention of your run against my Penn State Nickney
lines last year you were dealing with a little bit
of I believe it was a knee at the time.
How is your health now and and how does that

(28:41):
play a part in your life? You mentioned your lifestyle.
You're part of this campaign with the Live Fit Go campaign.
Talk just talk to me a little bit about your
health and and how that campaign played a part or
plays a part in what what you represent.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
Yes, sir, So you know obviously Selsea is they lost
their Lifted Go campaign, which is basically just all about
inspiring the lift fit mindset, you know, and you know,
as an athlete, like you know, I strive to embody that,
and you know, I love that the brand is like
encouraging others to do the scame thing. You know, I

(29:18):
do this every single day. Like as a college athlete,
I'm like, I'm very very disciplined on what I put
into my body. So like you know, I work with
you know, my trains, my coaches and nutrition staff and
just all the people that you know have an impact
on my health in general to ensure that, you know,
I'm at my peak you know, all season long. And
Celsias is a part of that routine. Like I said,

(29:40):
it strides I mean, pushing me through my workouts, pushing
me through my day as like academically, Like if I'm
having a hard morning, you know, drinking Celsius, you know,
I'm energied up, I'm ready to go for the rest
of the day. But it's also just a more healthy
I mean, energy drinks are energy drinks, but Celsius, I
would say, is a more healthy energy drink or it's

(30:03):
an alternative to the energy drinks that are just stuff
with a bunch of sugar. So it's of course that
Live Fit, Go, you know, campaign, that campaign of being
fit and just just being better for yourself. This is
how I do it as an athlete.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
And yeah, okay, he is Jeremiah Love Notre Dame running
back joining us here on Fox Sports Radio two Pros
and a cup of Joe here on FSR. So with
it being the USC week, with it being Rivalry week, obviously,
you know this sort of highlights the pride you have
as a Notre Dame fighting Irish player and somebody who's

(30:42):
going to carry the flag for the program for the
rest of your life. What was it about Notre Dame
that sold you on wanting to make your college experience
there in South Bend?

Speaker 8 (30:53):
I would say to people, I feel like that's what
it really comes down to. If you're going to any place,
you want to be surrounded with good people and people
that have your best interests at heart, and Notre Dame
just was that for me. You know, I came in
with a great coach, like Deila McCullough, I had coach free,
you know, just a whole coaching staff that I trusted

(31:14):
in and I knew as they trusted me to, you know,
come in and work, put my head down and do
the things that I needed to do to get to
where I want to be. And also, you know, help
this team. You know, a change some teams, glory man.
You know, go out there and do some great things.
But at the end of the day, it was just
the people. The school is great itself, but I mean

(31:35):
you wouldn't have Notre Dame without the people there, you know,
the people that include Notre Dame. So yeah, I'm just
the people sold me on Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Hey, Jeremiah, talking to me a little bit about you
and Jadarian. Obviously everyone knows or at least a lot
of people obviously know your name. Jadarian too is very
capable as a back. I mean I look at you
two as a one twer combination as the best in
college football, and obviously you guys have bright futures ahead.
Just talk to me about your relationship, how you guys
go about kind of motivating each other and sharing the rock.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
Yeah, Jadarian, he's a great back. He's also a great
friend and just a great person to be around off
the field. Obviously, on the field, JD makes explosives like
he just is at any time that he needs to. Like,
he's just as an explosive back as me and I
would say, like, we just compliment each other very well.

(32:30):
I tell this to people a lot. So whenever we're
in a game, you know, say, you know, I go
out there and I see a certain look, and I
don't exculim that look like I should, Like say, I
don't get as many yards or score touchdown like I should.
You know, me and JD being so put together and
so like in tune with each other, I go back

(32:52):
to the bench tell JD what I see, and he
goes out there, sees the same look and creates an
explosive and he's just going to get shoot ten plus yards,
We're gonna get a touchdown. And it happens really literally
every single game. And we communicate so well, you know,
just during the game, and they're in practice pushing each
other top you know, be the best versions of ourselves

(33:13):
every single day. And uh that's just you know just
what being that notre dame means. I feel like, you know,
being surrounded by just guys that are going to push
you to be the best version of yourself every single day.
And that's just the relationship that me and Zadarian have,
just too big, two great backs, you know, trying to
put on for another dame, put on for our cities

(33:34):
at home, and put on for you know, our last names,
and just uh just do something great. But yeah, Jadarian
is a great teammate, great brother.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
And uh yeah, mister love you.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
You guys have a new running backs coaching Jay one Sider.
He's he is, that's my guy, Like he's the o G.
What's that been like working with him this year? Has
it Has it been in fitted you in what ways?

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Yeah, it's benefit of me a lot. Coach Cyter, you know,
I like him a lot. He's just he's a great
person to be around, a very funny person off the field.
I feel like all the running backs and just people
on the team in general connect with him really well.
You know. Coach Cider brings a new perspective to the
running back room. He played quarterbacks, so one of the

(34:25):
things that he preaches to us every day is that
in order for us to be complete, like football players,
we kind of just need to know what's going on,
you know, everywhere throughout the field. Like as running backs. Uh,
he wants us to be able to play from the
from the head, from our head and not just our instincts.

(34:47):
So he teaches us about, you know, how to uncovered
you know, coverages, just lots of things about what what
the quarterback sees which could help us. You know, whenever
we're split out wide and we gotta you know, run
a route that we're reading it the safeties and if
the safety is higher, it's covered two. Like are you
going to like run like a bendor route? Are you

(35:09):
gonna run like a little fade or whatever. He just
teaches this stuff like that, just bigger things. It's bigger
things than just being running back. He wants to understand
the full field. But yeah, in general, Cole Sider is
a great coach. I love him, and I just hope to,
you know, continue to build a great relationship with him

(35:30):
as a season goes on.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. So take me back, because obviously the
start of the season, you guys went bold, You had Miami,
you had Texas A and M on the schedule. As
it turns out, both those teams top teams in the country,
both two and four in the rankings right now, but
you fall short. So what is the vibe like, what's
the conversation like for you guys opening up the year

(35:54):
two tough losses, sitting at zero and two, knowing you
probably got to run the table if you want to
make noise in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
Yeah, so we we obviously we had a start to
the season that we didn't want to have start off
on too. But our mindset, you know, after those two games,
was just to keep going and keep and keep staying together.
As long as we do that week by week, you know,
we'll get to where we want to get to. But

(36:24):
it was hard, you know, starting off on two. But
we just put our head down and just worked every
single day, and that's what we're continuing to do. That's
the mindset, you know, block out the noise, like we're
together and the only opinions that matter is, you know,
the opinions in our team room and the opinions in
our position rooms, and that's where we live by We'll

(36:45):
just go out every single day and do the things
that we need to do to make sure that every
week we're all we're want to know. And that's what
we're gonna do this week. You know, we've been putting
our hands down this week, making sure that we're preparing
the right ways, making sure we're covering the right ways
so we can go out there and be and put
ourselves and put the team in the best position possible
to go out there and win the game. And that's

(37:06):
what it's gonna do every week.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Jeremiah, before we let you go, I do want to
ask you just who you are closest with on the
old line. Just give some love to those those big
boys up front off or paying the way for you.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
Guys, I'll posted all those guys. If I could say,
like the people that I that I'm like I talked
to the most, or like I joke around with the most.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Who's the biggest character, But who's the funniest guy?

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Yeah, I would say Billy, Either Billy or Ask And
those two are like when I first came in her name,
I thought those who were like twins. They look exactly
the same, they act the same, like they're always in tune.
And I play around with those guys a lot like
off the field, just joking around the locker room where
it's playing ping pong or whatever it may be. Like,

(37:52):
those guys are always just flying to be around. And
then uh, Nap too, he's a character off the field.
Nap a meal, definitely a meal and Gardy B two
like those, All five of those guys are just great
to be around, fun to be around off the field.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
What do you think about Elijah burs.

Speaker 8 (38:10):
Oh, he's great man. He put on a He put
on a show in spring ball and then he has
continued to evolve ever since. You know, he's been at
Notre Dame. I feel like he's going to be that
guy for Notre Dame whenever his time comes. He puts
his head down and works every single day. And you know,
I see it as coach sees it, and I feel

(38:32):
like everybody on the team sees it. But Elijah, he's nice.
He was nice as soon as soon as he was
making some crazy plays. So his feature is bright.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Jeremiah love Notre Dame. Running back with us here on
behalf of Celsius. We appreciate the time. Good luck this
weekend and good luck the rest of the way. Man
Joe Irish Josh Yeah, forty five to one, by the
way to win the Heisman. On draft kicks, he's on

(39:05):
the list.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I say you better lay that bet now because if
he goes off this week, it's only gonna go up
from there.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Guy's gonna be a first round draft pick.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
He's number two on Mel Kuiper's big board right now.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I don't know how much he you know, I think
he's the best overall player, you know, so I think
Kuiper's putting a premium on quarterbacks when I looked at it,
But I think you put him. Jeremih Smith isn't draft eligible,
but Caleb Downs is. I think him and Downs are
the two best players in college football.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
There was I saw somebody had sort of a mock
draft or projection as to where they think Jeremiah Love
could end up, and they're like, oh, perfect fit for
him would be the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
He's not last, could you imagine?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
But is he gonna last to the late twenties? Potentially?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
No, But also you can see them making a move
to go up and get him. I mean, the only reason,
the only reason he would is because the unning back position.
But one of the things he's done this year is
they've used him more out of the backfield as a
pass catching threat. So I mean, I imagine him in
that offense. I mean and honestly, like when when he
first got to Notre Dame, when I watched him, I

(40:15):
was like, oh, guys, like the closest thing we've had
to Reggie Bush, you know, as far as his explosiveness,
what he does when he gets to Knowmanfield, Like, he's
the type of player that takes your breathway you expect
him to score, you know it. It's that he's that
sort of player. So I can't wait to see, you know,
what he does this week really the rest of the season.

(40:36):
Him and Jendarian Price are so much fun to watch. Man,
those two are like two of the best running backs.
They're both gonna get drafted. They'll both you know, be
high in next year's NFL draft, but two just really
really good players.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Well, I'll tell you what, He's one of those types
of guys that is deserving of Yeah, some original Louisiana
hot sauce on his food, dud. Bet you might use
that on his pregame plate, you never know, but it's
the perfect balance of Pepper's vinegar and soap. Like I said,
you can put it on your wings, nachos, your burgers,
whatever it is you want to hit your tailgate, pregame meal,

(41:12):
whatever it is, whatever food you want tastes better. You
want to put that bold, hand crafted flavor of that
original Louisiana Hot sauce on it. That's Louisiana Hot.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. And speaking of hot, Yeah, Loreina's
got the leftovers come up next year.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
And what did you just do?

Speaker 8 (41:33):
There?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
There are what did you just do?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
There are dumb people, and then there's this guy. Find
out who we're talking about. It was right here ont FS.

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Speaker 1 (41:58):
It is two Pros and a Come with Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. Oh double up, LeVar Arrington, Jonas
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got you covered here on a Football Friday I.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Get to talk less. I can't like everybody be talking
about little more. You talk too much. Hey, bro, when
Q's here, I don't have to say anything. I just
say yeah, you're right, No you're wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I ran to the liquor store a couple of days ago,
came back still going.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Man, So don't don't be saying who cares? Like I
still get my check. I get to chill out, you
know what I mean. It's hanging, chilling man, hanging and
banging man hanging and banging, slanging and banging, dig dig
it all right?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
So, uh so it is a tradition every single Thursday,
but instead it's a special one. No, well, if we
want the Ohio State fight, so I'm probably that would
probably be fun.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yeah that was Notre Dame was or was that Michigan?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
That was that was all right?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
That was that was dangerous if you hit the Michigan.
But well with that, nobody likes Michigan around here. With
that said, we turn it over to the one and
only Albert Brier, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
At the MMQB.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
You can get them on x at Albert brier ab
Happy Friday, Happy Football Friday to you and.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
Yours Happy Friday guys. I uh yeah that first song
you were playing. Isn't there some sort of second Yeer
rivalry this weekend?

Speaker 8 (43:42):
Right?

Speaker 6 (43:43):
I think?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, yes, ye Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
Yeah that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yeah, it could be gone, could be uh could be
doing away with it.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
You know.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
I will say that sucks, like I can't believe that,
Like I can't believe that that's being allowed to happen.
And I mean I know it's like result of conference
re alignment and all that, but that just it just
sucks the idea of stuff like that to go away.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm sure Brady there right, well, no, he's not in
I think everybody would agree. It's like remember when Mike
Gundy was like, well, you know, the the Oklahoma Oklahoma
state rivalry is dead because they change conferences. It's like, man,
I feel like with non conference schedules, there was probably
a way that you could figure that one out to

(44:26):
still exist. Like it just feels like there's some ways
to do it, and yeah, it's a bummer.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Just do it. I mean that's the bottom line. You
just you play the game.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
There's just some things like would could you imagine if they're, oh,
we're going to do away with the Ohio State Michigan game,
like just doesn't make sense anymore. Like come on, man,
there's just certain things you just don't like. It's not
even worth a discussion.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
You just do it.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
There's nothing to figure out. You just do it.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
But right, doesn't like Penn State and pit used to
play every year.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Right, Yeah, that was a big that was a big deal.
But you got to keep in mind though we still
played a second fiddle to West Virginia and Pitt. The
Backyard Brawl was a real that was a real rivalry,
you know what I mean, Like Penn State.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
Yeah it was a thing, but it wasn't like it
did not weigh the Backyard Brawl, So you know what
I mean, Like there's there's a there's some like like
the Red River or or the what the fight for
Paul Bunyan's acts or whatever. Like when you create these
types of rivalries, and especially the ones that have lasted through.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Like time, like since the beginning, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm sorry, A coach cannot make that type of decision.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Just if you got to take that L, you take
that L like that's the bottom line.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
Might I might do that should not be like that
should not be in like some coach or TV executive.
That should not be under that.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
That would be gone.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Right, They'll be gone in a year or two, Like
maybe even even if they get a twenty thirty year run,
a forty year run of working doesn't matter, doesn't outweigh
what the rivalry represents. It's just it's crazy to me
that people allow people to get involved with business that way.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, I digress, Albert.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I got a question for you speaking. I know obviously
Ohio state near and dear to your heart. There was
a big game in Ohio last night, Bengals getting a
win over the Steelers in what makes that division a
little bit more competitive than what we thought it was
going to look like with all the injuries at quarterback
and whatnot. In the Steelers performance. When Mike Tomlin was
talking about Andrew Berry trading Joe Flacco within the division,

(46:39):
was that sort of him kind of throwing up a
flair gun like this could be a problem that guy
on that team with those receivers and those weapons, Like
I don't you know, like what was Andrew Berry thinking?
Because watching that game. It's like, man, all of a sudden,
you're feeling about the Bengals and their chances moving forward
have completely switch in a week.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
I agree. I mean, I personally think so Mike Tomlin
and Kevin Stefanski have a good relationship. I think it's
Mike Tomlin getting Kevin Stefanski's back and knowing that that
wasn't Stefanski's call and feeling like the coaches maybe got
like that this was something that like maybe the coaches

(47:23):
wouldn't have done, you know. And I think there's a
fraternity there with those guys where they can see when
these things happen and they feel for their colleagues, you know.
So I think that that's what that was. And I'm
with you. I think this changes the dynamic. Like I
I felt this way when they traded it for him.

(47:43):
You know a lot of people said like, oh, I
can't move anymore, and behind that offensive line, I'm like,
have you seen who he's going to be throwing to?
How long with those receivers do you think he's going
to have to hold on to the ball? Do you
actually think this is going to be like Jake Browning
where he doesn't he isn't he is deciphering what he's
seeing or do he's into forty year old quarterback's going
to be able to go in there and get rid

(48:06):
of the ball fast and put Jamar Chase and t
Higgins in the position to make plays. And that's what
it is. That's the Bengals saw, Well, it's okay, like
we've got a little bit of an offensive blind pop.
We still have the great weapons. How do we mitigate
that and how do we put together an offense in
the drop back game that's closest to what Joe Burrow
is doing so we can maximize the other ten guys

(48:27):
in the huddle. And that's why Joe made sense for them.
And really, they're not asking Joe to be Superman, although
he kind of was last night. What they're asking him
to do is just get them back to level ground.
And you know, I have a game December fourteenth circled
in my head, right, like the Bengals play the Ravens
that day, and that's thirteen games in for them. So

(48:51):
like to me, it's like that's three months after that's
three months to the day of Joe Burrow's injury. So
to me, I look at it, and I say, can
you get to that date? Can you get to that
date and be seven and six? Because if you can, now,
all of a sudden, you got Joe Burrow back in
the lineup, and are we talking about the Bengals are

(49:14):
really dangerous if they can get in it, you know
what I mean? Because the AFC is a little sideways.
So the whole idea in getting Placau was how do
we maximize the guys in that huddle? And can we
get to December and get Joe Burrow back in a
situation where we're still playing relevant games because every opportunity
you have to go into January with a quarterback like

(49:36):
Joe Burrow's gold. I think that's where they're at and
it came together last night. They've got the Jets, They've
got the Bears, then they've got their buy. They don't
play on the road for another month. I mean, you
can see them being five and four when they play
the Steelers again a month from now in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
What's it going to take to get cam Ward into
relevant games into the season.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
What's going to what is it going to take?

Speaker 7 (50:05):
I mean, I just think stabilities of Borrow and that's
the biggest thing, and it sucks for all the young
quarterbacks where this happened, it seems to happen over and
over again. I'm sure you guys saw that earlier this
week that the last four number one overall pick quarterbacks
have gone through mid seasons firings. This rookie, that's like
textbook how not to do it, you know what I mean,

(50:26):
organizationally when it comes to developing a quarterback. But that's
what it was for Trevor Lawrence when he was a
rookie with Urban Meyer. That's what it was for Bryce
Young when he was a rookie with Frank right, And
that's what it was for Caleb Williams last year when
he was a rookie with Betty's close And so you know,
the biggest thing I think for Cam is they that

(50:47):
the Titans have to find a way to stabilize the
situation around him and put in the infrastructure. And that
doesn't need to mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to hire uh Hadh's the quarterbacks guy. I mean,
last time chat, Drey is doing just fine with the
devested head coach right like in Mike Ravel. So you

(51:09):
know what it does mean is that you have to
I think create a stable situation around him, and that
canna start now, you know, with the boy being involved, obviously,
you know, like but you know, I think as far
as your long term planning goes, like, you have to
have a plan that's sustainable so you're not doing this
again to him in a year or two, you know,

(51:29):
And you want to try to create like the best
situation you possibly can for him, and and and now
they've got a lot of runway to do that, obviously.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, let
me ask you about Mike Rabel. Obviously he returns back
to Nashville levard I were speculating maybe he gets a
little petty while he's there. I just just remind me
again why they were better off without him, Like, how
did that go? Because upon further review, the Titans look

(52:01):
like a clown show based on their decision making with
not only that, but Derek Henry, who clearly still has
something left in the tank. What was the plan there?

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Well, I mean, the short answer is they weren't better off, right.
The longer answer is a little more complicated. So they
fired John Robinson. The owner does not like being embarrassed.
AJ Brown embarrassed the owner in the organization in twenty
twenty two in December he went for like eight one

(52:32):
sixty whatever it was, And so two days later the
owner decides he's firing the general mansistracture. So John Robinson
gets fired at the end of twenty two, and then
going into twenty three, they give Mike Brable a ton
of power, and for better or worse, there was a
feel in that organization that you were either a Mike

(52:54):
Brable guy or you weren't, and it was a little
siloed offs there. Right to hire a general man who
did that? Guize him and Brandon Carthon and they go
through the year and she more or less aside, I
don't like the way the building feels right now, and
I don't like destructure. I don't think this is the

(53:14):
right structure. And at that point you the only way
to take the power away from Mike Brable was the
fire him. So they kind of got themselves like tied up,
and it's like, Okay, well, I don't like the A. J.
Brown trade anymore, So I fired the GM, so I'm
gonna give the coach the power. Oh wait, I don't
like having a coach who has that much power. So

(53:37):
now I'm going to just blow the whole thing up completely,
and that's how they end up where they end up now.
I would argue John Robinson inherited a briand thirteen team
until it twenty sixteen was walked in with Marcus Mariota
as his quarterback. Well, he had inherited and he had
six straight winning seasons. Rayville came a board and a

(54:00):
third of those seasons he made the playoffs three times
in four years, won two division titles on to an
AFT title game. I think those guys aren't the right
to rebuild it right. The core there had aged out,
but she was so focused on what was six inches
in front of her face, which was what was happening
right now in both those circumstances that she wound up

(54:22):
tearing down, you know, a structure that was really working
for them, and then have built an identity there. And
you know, I think it's an owner's job in that
situation to me, at least when there is some issues,
you know, and when there are there is some that's important.

(54:42):
The way you heard the owner's job. The owners have
very many jobs in the football side. But making those
things work is one of them. And she, instead of
making it that work, started firing people, and now he's
steed the results.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Let me let me ask you about what's going on
in New New York. I believe Dan Campbell's record his
first year in Detroit was three and thirteen if my
memory serves me correctly.

Speaker 10 (55:11):
Yeah, and one. That's a horrible record, horrible record, and
most people won't recall that. That's how low the Detroit
line started off after that fiery presser that that Dan
Campbell delivered and bite kneecaps and punching ankle, you know,

(55:36):
ankles and stuff like that. Aaron Glenn's going through the
same thing right now, could possibly outdo three and thirteen
and one in New York. And you hear whispers and
murmurs and things coming out popping up. Should Aaron Glenn
be fired? How should fans be reacting to this?

Speaker 6 (55:59):
I mean, is this a place where the same thing
that happened in Detroit could actually happen again in New York?

Speaker 7 (56:11):
I think you have to be patient, LeVar, you know,
I think, like you said, like in Detroit they were
zero to nine, they were oh ten and one. And
they finished that season three and three, and if you remember,
like over the course that season, like you started to
see hope and that like a play style was emerging.

(56:35):
You started to see like, all right, like this is
a team that actually they have an identity and they're
not there yet from a roster standpoint, but we're starting
to see some things we like. And then it manifested
wins at the end of the year, and they had
some momentum going into the next year. And then the
next year didn't start out great either. If you remember what,
they caught fire in the middle of that year and

(56:56):
they were often running and now they are what they are.
I think that's what you're looking for now, right, is
all right, You've had your rough start, inherited a roster
that I thought was really good. I know some people
in that building feel like maybe it was a little
bit overrated, and so what you're looking for I think
the rest of the year is the play style and identity,

(57:19):
Like you want to see who they are and you
would hope by the end of the year that starts
to manifest and wins the way I did at the
end of the year in Detroit. So that's where the
hope is me is like Aaron Glen growing into the role,
but also like just starting to see what he wants
them to become. Because I think even when the Lions

(57:41):
were as bad as they were that first year, by
the end of that year, we had a good idea
of what Dan Campbell was trying to build. And so
that's what I'd be looking for if I were a
Jets fan right now.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Alpha Briers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, It's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on FSR SO trade deadlines coming
up in a couple of weeks, Alvin Kamara said, you know,
if you trade me, I'll just go drink Pina coladas.
So he seems to be off the table. Joe Flacco's
already been traded. What are we looking at? Are their
names out there to watch situations to monitor that you go,

(58:14):
you know, something could pop off there.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
Sure, I mean I think it's like the easy thing
to do is like just look at, like which teams
are gonna be waving the white flag now, you know,
Like last night's game is a good example, right, Like
there's a lot of talk about Trey Hendrickson. Thing goes
right down a little bit, like they've got two games
that are winnable between now and the trade deadline. I think,

(58:37):
like you look at that and say, Henry, it makes
sense for them to keith entrances, right, Like, So, like,
which teams are we looking at? I'd say the Saints
are once, although Mickey Loomans has always been very reluctant
to move guy. So like, is the Mario Davis valuable
to somebody? I can't imagine they would trade Cam Jordan.

(58:57):
It's just based on what he needs the franchise. But
at Crystal Lave, Like if you come and you ask
on Crystal Lave and they haven't signed him to a
long term extension, like maybe he's somebody who are looking
at The Jets would be another one, you know, Jermaine Johnson.
Could you find a way to pry him if they
aren't playing out signing him Lungs or brace Hall, that's

(59:18):
an obvious one, right, Like, I mean they don't have
him signed and uh, and he's a free agent after
the year. Miami, they're veteran pass rushers Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips.
So like I think you're looking at teams that have
some ask that you know, and like you look at
Tennessee also, but who does Tennessee have that he would

(59:39):
really be like, yeah, like let me go get him,
like maybe Calvin Ridley, right, like, So for those are teams,
I think you'd be looking at teams that maybe like
or in a position where they have to be a
little bit more realistic with themselves about where they are,
you know, and then you you you you look at
the guys contract situations that you go from there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I'm good, all right, Well, Albert, we've taken enough of
his time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
All paused like I was going to keep going like
we're good, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Well, I mean, uh, you know, now I got a question.

Speaker 7 (01:00:14):
Who's your coach going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
I don't know. Are you hopefully to coach that can
beat Ohio State?

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Are you an ex teammate of the Canvas? Is that right?
I think you are right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
I think that's right, right. I think my timeline right here,
I think that's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I do not I do not know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Yeah, might have been that same position, go as you.

Speaker 8 (01:00:39):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
I think I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Don't know who are you speaking of?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I never heard of it A be speaking of a
speaking of college.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
It is that time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Uh, We've got to ask you a question. So you know,
with that being said, you representing Columbus in the way
that you do, do you believe at the end of
this week's game against Wisconsin that Ohio State will have
won by more than twenty five and a half points?

Speaker 7 (01:01:09):
I do, I do, although I like, hey, look like
Lukepickles and a love figure in Columbus right and by
and day. I believe with the staff made of Lukes
for a year. So I don't think this is like
a foot on the gas in the fourth quarter game
for them, So like that'd be my one concern. Like

(01:01:31):
for me, I think they would. I think they cover,
but I'm not sure I would by this one if
I were them, because I could see the fuck coming
off the gas a little. That they're in the fourth
quarter with some sympathy for the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Oh so they're gonna show, They're gonna show some mercy there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
They're not a good team. Let's call it what it is,
a good team, but God is bad.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
Yeah, so you're right, well, not a good team. Yeah,
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
It's not it's not like Wisconsin used to strike fear
into you when you heard that name.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
It's not the same Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
So when we're talking about identity, you knew what they.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Were, right, you knew what they were coming in.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
They look like they were, I mean, the most the
toughest post physical teams play all year. They were that
for twenty five years, right, that's right, that's right, Mother
than that baby.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
So I heard there's not even enough people. I heard
there's not even enough people left by the fourth quarter.
Did you jump around anymore at those games?

Speaker 8 (01:02:29):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
No, I'm just I made that. That's just I'm just possible.
I mean, they probably just hang around just for that though.
That's probably the only thing that keeps them coming to
the games. The bar here, and I'm not one, and
I can't. I am not the pot calling the kettle
black right here, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:45):
But I just said, I say it's all a love
and appreciation in my heart. I mean, Camp Randa is
really just a big outdoor bar anyway, right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Yeah, Yeah, it is fun, ye you get it in
that's one of the best places to play a game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Was one of the hardest places to play game. But yeah,
not so much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
All right, there is ab We appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week.

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
All thanks, guys.

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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
You missed it, and for that we turn it over
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Patrick Sweeka. Patti speaks A.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah, what happen?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
It's a boy? What's up? Jonas LeVar Brady, what's going on? Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Oh man?

Speaker 11 (01:06:28):
Well, guys, in case you missed it, we got it.
We got a good one for us here. So I
actually have sound for this. But before I go into that,
it's about John Degannon. He was asked at a press
conference recently, uh with in lieu of the whole de
Mercado situation, with that whole you know, getting fine thing.
A reporter asked him, you know, Jonathan, how do you

(01:06:50):
figure out, you know, taking the emotion out of the game,
like you know, when you're coaching and you know what?
He responded with something like this.

Speaker 12 (01:07:00):
Or did you have to start trying to figure out
how to take the emotion out of coaching? As far
as when you when you have all these injuries and
you have all these different pieces, when's the first time
that you can recall it two thousand and seven when
our quarterback went to jail.

Speaker 11 (01:07:17):
Dail.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Coach, thank you? It's the coach, thank you? Is what
does it for me?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
That's a guy who knows he's on the hot scene.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
We also point out the obvious he's referring to his
time with the Atlanta Falcons when Michael Vick went to
jail for the legal dog fighting ring. That was what
he was referencing. But man, that made its rounds two
on hun social media yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:07:53):
He clearly hasn't learned to remove his emotions from situations.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Right, Oh that seems warm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, that's not that's not gonna end well for him.
They don't look good, man, Well, they don't look good.
And I don't think I don't think he was thrilled
with you know, is what what was the quote from
the one GM rival GM that said he got his
balls cut off in front.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Of the team. Just find that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
So it just feels like that's that's going in the
wrong direction in a hurry. Thank It's just so if
you watch the video of him, he's so matter of fact,
it's so uncomfortable and be like, hey, thanks coach.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
That really did really interview played just the ending again Patrick,
if you can like they didn't know, they didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
How to how you react to that?

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
Coach?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
All right? Got a swear h Brady, thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:09:06):
And leaves uh so that said we got another one here,
so we all know we have a new American pope, right,
Popo Leo? So let me tie it in here. He
is a White Sox fan, as as though everybody kind
of knows. So a little bit of some baseball rivalry
happened just recently. So, uh I guess he was Uh,
he was doing in the crowd and someone was chanting

(01:09:27):
to the pope, hey go Cubs, and you know, waving
at him. So he responded back in Spanish, mind you
han pardito and that is in English.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
They lost.

Speaker 11 (01:09:39):
He was taking a dig at the Chicago Cubs. Cuz again,
the pope is a white Sox fan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, he's disqualified from conversation on that, on basis, On
that basis alone, that's it. He's a white Sox fan
doesn't count. That's one of the worst teams in baseball historically.
He's not allowed to throw a shade.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
He's just doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
He have to be all the way neutral and have
no sides because he has been tasked with blessing all
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
He's on God's side, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
It's a good point. It's a good point. Like like
Sister Jean kind of became polarizing. We all loved her
for her fandom, but then you're like, all right, now
my team is playing against you. I kind of want
to beat Sister Jean's ass, you know, like you don't
want to you want to venture in that territory, right,
I have to say it, Like That's how people took
that I can't venture into the sports world otherwise it

(01:10:30):
gets nasty, throw their faith to the side, and they're like, no,
the whistle blew, we're in between the lines.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Anything goes yeah, yeah, well, you know, somebody, let the
pope know that the White Sox are forty two games
under five hundred this year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Let him know that. See what you see?

Speaker 8 (01:10:47):
What do?

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
He response back with an Italian, what a joke? Seems
a laughing stock of the city. And he's sitting there
throwing shade.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
You said an Italian?

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Was that Italian?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
He said in Spanish Spanish, Oh, I should have known that.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Oops, do better, Jonas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
I missed those vows asllwego. Hey, whatever you say, brother,
check you out? What is that? Check you out tomorrow?
See Poppy