October 27, 2025 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about Jonathan Taylor and the Colts improving to 7-1 and if they're the best team in the NFL, Brian Kelly getting the pink slip at LSU, the Ravens getting a win without Lamar Jackson, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
H he's pretty much got Offensive Player of the Year
wrapped up at this point. I would say MVP, but
they don't give that to running backs anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, yes, they was jocking him yesterday.
That's for certain. It's the best team in the league
right now. It's crazy to say they're up there. Yeah,
look very good. I mean when we say best team,
I mean, I know they're doing the best, but they're
like the number one overall team, right I don't know
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that that makes them the I mean, obviously they're the
best team statistic, I mean by by category of wins
and losses, But are they the best team right now?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Can they stand up against Buffalo or Kansas City? Can
can they win win?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Though?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Those games?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
They run the ball, they've gotten really good quarterback play.
They seem like they fit all the criteria and if
we're being honest, they should be undefeated. That game they
lost was against the Rams. That was when you know,
the dude dropped the ball Ady Mitchell before he crossed
the goal line. There's another holding call that wiped out
a Jonathan Taylor long run. So, yeah, you were saying,
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you know, teams, you know, it's a pass first league now,
But Jonathan Taylor has been fantastic, so overwhelming favor to
win Offensive Player of the Year right now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm just saying, and I'm I think that they're they're
a fine team, and they're showing that they can play
at a high level and they're doing well. But I mean,
outside of the Chargers, do they have a signature win?
Uh Denver? They should have lost that game. I mean,
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and that's well, what week is that? But what week
is that? I that was that ridiculous leverage call? What
week was this?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
What week was ridiculous? It's a rule, dude, it was
it was.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It was a it was a week call. It wasn't really.
I just I just feel like the way they had
them really beat I just I just don't know that.
I don't I don't know if the Colts are are
fools gold or not. I just don't know. They look good.
The record says they're good, but best team in the league.
(02:29):
I'm not ready to say best team in the league,
even though they look good. Jonathan Taylor runs for three yesterday.
I get all that he's having a great year. Is
Daniel Jones even in consideration for comeback Player of the Year,
because I don't even know what the hell the rules
on that is anymore like a back player of the year, Like, okay,
you went there what last year?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, as we've learned, when a guy almost dies on
the field, uh, that mean he's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Dang.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So I just I just don't understand which what definition
applies to comeback player?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
All right, So, speaking of that comeback player of the year,
who would you guys say right now on DraftKings is
the favorite for comeback to I guarantee you guys will
not get this because I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to try.
Joe Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Comeback player of the year favorite right now in the NFL,
according to DraftKings, Dak Prescott didn't he play last year? Yeah, okay,
I mean he was banged up a little bit. It
was banged up a little bit. But I mean we're
gonna I mean Daniel Jones is I mean, he didn't
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play much last year, That's.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What I'm saying. But was he what was he did
he go to the Colts last year or was this
his first year? We went to Minnesota. Yeah, see, I
almost feel like this should be comeback Like, isn't that
what happened with the one quarterback? That guy comeback player
of the year. He went to a different team. He
was playing, but he went to a different team, played well,
And the one comeback player of the year was like
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a quarterback when.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Flacco won it, he was he was he had wasn't
playing at all and they brought him in And.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Okay, that's different if he wasn't playing at all. Yeah,
there was one where he was playing and he came back,
he went to a different team. And one comeback player of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The year, Christian McCaffrey's second on that list, And that
would make a little bit more sense to me than
maybe Dak Preston.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Was he out for the season last year? McCaffrey, I
mean he missed a lot of pretty much, he missed
a lot. I just don't understand comeback player of the Year.
I don't understand like the parameters of it, where it starts,
where it is.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I don't think anyone does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's a mystery no one really understands.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, I just, I just I'm curious as to what
the Colts will do as as this season you know,
goes on. Like they have a manageable they have a manageable.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
They play in a bad division, let's just call what
it is.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Yeah, everyone looks at them as lesser because they plan
a bad division, and so we say their schedule is manageable.
But dude, they beat who they beat and by the way,
like they're not really allowing it to be close. Like
let's compare this to the college ranks. Okay, like there's
another team in the state of Indiana or Indiana who
seems to get this like same flack where they're like, well,
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they don't really play well, Like they beat the crap
out of the teams they play Like at some point,
and this is the NFL, like these guys are all
being paid and like they're still absolutely demolishing everyone that
gets in their way for the most part. Now again,
Broncos game was closed. There's a few close games in there,
but like, if you're gonna like, well, what they're doing
against the bad teams, they beat the crap out of them.
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I think they're a really good football team, Like I
think we're all waiting for like that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But are they the best right now?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yes, Like it's hard to say that because their quarterbacks
not Josh Allen, It's not Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson.
I get that, But Daniel Jones is playing really well.
And to Jonas's point, they've got potentially the offensive player
of the year. They have an offensive line that's played good.
They've got a defense that under lou Anarumo is like
taking its next step and really come around.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
They're they're a.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Good football team. Like they are the best right now
in the league. You got to give them credit for
who they've been, what they've done all Right, You saw
them and like Coop says, like, oh that Denver should
have won that, dude, they did on that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Denver's a good football team.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, Like that's a good one to throw the hooks.
Throw up the hooks, throw.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The hooks up. They shouldn't have beat us, Brady, you
saw the Colts up close and personal. Is this staying power?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Is this?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, that's a team that's going to be around for them,
Like in the playoffs to the playoffs. I know that
I know that trajectory is pretty obvious. The way they're playing.
I don't see them falling off of a cliff and
missing the playoffs. Do they have that ability to sustain
in the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yes, they can run, they can throw, they have a
quarterback who can take off make big plays. Like everyone's
just hesitating because again it's it's it's a little bit
about Daniel Jones to me, and they don't I don't
know if they believe in him.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Or anythink that's the biggest question mark and can we
believe that?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But the people want to see them against like better
teams and be able to beat those teams. Well, guess
what you got Pittsburgh. I believe next week right at Pittsburgh,
and then in a few weeks, I believe if they
get to buy then they go to Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's what I'm saying. I want to see and listen.
I'm not saying I'm prepared to say that there's fools
goal as a team if they lose to those teams.
I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying I don't
know if they had a real signature like the early
the early win against the Broncos. But that's early. I'm saying,
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now that we're into the swing of the season, who
have they who have they beaten? That is a note,
That's all I'm saying like that to me. And I'm again,
I'm not. I'm not gonna jump out here and be like, oh,
they I told you they stink like they couldn't beat
like this team. I'm not. I'm not prepared to say
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that either. I would just be more. I probably would
be more. I guess expecting that they they stumble against
one of those types of teams. I will say this,
whatever it is they do against like a team like
the Chiefs, that's gonna tell me a lot. Because if
you're dominating, you're winning by double, you know, two possession
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games against these these lesser teams, which that is what
they are. What does it look like when you get
up against a real like a real heavyweight, Like do
your punches do they hit the same?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Do they land the same? Are your body blows? Are
your are your big shots are Are they are they
really what we thought they were? Or are you you know,
are you now in the big pond playing with the
big fish and it doesn't work the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Have you guys seen Jonathan Taylor's touchdown celebration the like
stutter stutter man. He comes to like not a dead
stop obviously, but he slows down at a rapid pace
to throw that stutter on.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And I'm like, dude, whether that's people still trying to tackle,
that's so disrespectful. It is so dope.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, but I'm just like, man, is he gonna like
pull something or something?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
He's He's in a dead sprint and all of a sudden,
you know, that's kind of it's kind of fly. It
is kind of like if I tried to do that,
my knee would explode.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know what upsets me by the way shooting at
you don't see what I'm shooting at. That's a three
What you don't see what I'm shooting at? You you're blind, bro?
No you can't see bro anyway anyway, what was I saying?
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You're stupid? Bruh?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, yeah, this is the celebration. You know, you like
the celebration.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This is why I'm upset about Saquon still to this day.
You see how quickly it can shift. And Saquon had
a good little little game yesterday. No, he's as growing
as now sore, like he's a little sore. But here's
the thing. From year to year, especially at that position,
you're never gonna he's never gonna have anywhere near close
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to that type of season ever. Again, I know people
wanted to be positive and say, oh my goodness, he
could do this every single year. He can have that
type of success. That's so great what he did. He
was such a team player. Dad, this, that and the other.
Is Jonathan Taylor? Like I know he got to to
his yard is the third quickest or something like that.
There was some stat that they were saying, but is
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he having a better year than what Saquon was having
last year? I feel like Quon was having a I mean,
I know he was having a historical, historical year in
terms of being able to track down Eric Dickerson's you know,
single season rushing record. Is is Jonathan Taylor on any
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type of trajectory like that with what he's doing? Is
it touchdowns? Is it? Is it yards? You know, total yards?
What it like our rush yards? What like? Is he
doing anything that special? Because I'm not I'm not up
on it to that that degree.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think he's got twelve touchdowns so far, this year,
he's got close to a thousand. I think he's you know,
at like eight fifty. And yet we're talking about him
for MVP for the league. Well, offensive Player of the Year.
He's not gonna win MVP. Okay, Offensive Player the Year. Okay,
I about to say, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Not a running back award anymore. But if Sakwon Barkley
gets that record, he gets in MVP the League. Yeah,
and he's never gonna come close to that ever again.
So you could have knocked out the final week like
he could have played. He quit, well, they made him
sit down. They made him sit down. I just think
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he should have got I'm going to forever as long
as we do this show, when there's a comparable that
comes up at that position, I'm going to always wonder
why they did not go after that record. I get, oh,
we're trying to prepare for the super Bowl. I get
all that. Let's rest all of our guys. I get
all that. Then get him to get him to the
record as quickly as you can and get them out
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of there. But you're never going to get that close
to that record again if it's Sakwon Barkley, and that stinks.
That that you took that man's unselfish nature, selfless, selfless
approach to what he does, and you used it against him.
And now he'll never come close to that record again.
And he could have got MVP, and that could have
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went a long way, a longer way, having that accolade
on his resume, and I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
All right, Well, the numbers would show he sa Quan
is rushing for about twenty yards more per game than
Jonathan Taylor, So that would put Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
About at the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
And this is assuming that Jonathan Taylor played all seventeen games.
He would be about two hundred yards short, so he'd
be somewhere around like eighteen hundred yards. Doing other differences, though,
Jonathan Taylor's catching for about eight yards more per game,
so he as far as total yards from scrimmage, it
would be close.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
But Sae Kwon Wu still have gotten him.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, thank you for that.
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Speaker 3 (14:14):
Man, it wasn't even that long ago that Brian Kelly,
I ain't none me my family, I'm winning you.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Was taking victory laps and sideswiping Davos Sweeney after their
week one when in Clemson's death Valley, and now just
butt it of two months later, less than two months later,
that'll do it. Brian Kelly has been fired by LSU.
Apparently they're still working through how to figure out his
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fifty four million dollar buyout. But Brian Kelly and his
run at LSU has come to an end. And for
all the talk and all the gusto and everything that
he threw out there over the past couple of years.
Probably not the way I think a lot of LSU
fans thought this was going to play out because they
got their ass whooped my Texas A and M over
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the weekend.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Well, first off, like both both these things can be true.
The first is Texas A and M is a really
good football team.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Mike Elko, who is a.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Former defensive assistant under Brian Kelly while on Notre Dame,
is a hell of.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
A football coach.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
And I'll say this right now, Marcel Reid, their quarterback,
is a player that I've watched every week, and that
young man has continued to improve.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
He should be if you.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Want to place a long bit on the Heisman, like
I'd throw his name right now in the ring, you
should be able to get some good odds because they're
going to play a little more difficult schedule the rest
of the way. But he's gonna be a guy that's
draft eligible, and from watching what I see at him,
like he'd be a guy that I would say could
be a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I mean, he's got all the talent and skill.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
It just comes down to like development and taking that
next step, and from last year this year he's done that.
I mean, his mechanics is full work, Like everything's been
much improved. So Marcel reads a guy that like, I'm
keeping an eye on for the rest of the season, but
also to see what he does after this year, because
I think he's got a great chance of being one
of the top quarterbacks taken just on the field in
comparison to like Garret Nussmeyer, who look behind the scenes.
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When I talked to like different talent evaluators, everyone was
like afraid to say it publicly, but they kind of
like gushed about him. They loved nus and Marcel read
hands down outplayed him. It wasn't even close, Like wasn't
even close this past week. So if that gives you
any indication of what is going to happen the draft
next year, I would say this draft is, by the
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way as open as it's ever been for like who
potentially could be that number one overall pick right now.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I just think that it is a very, very volatile
time to be a coach at the college level at
a major university with a large contract. It's a it's
a it's a volatile time, and it's it's a unsettling
time because in il transfer portal all of these elements
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added extra elements of being able to pay players players,
being able to transfer is now turning into a job
that I don't I don't believe. I don't believe that
most of the coaches in the coaching industry have been
properly trained or equipped on being able to I don't
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know how you could be properly trained and equipped to
be able to handle where we are right now, so
to be able to get a team to play well,
play at a high level, stick together from season to season.
You know, these are these are the pressures that that
these coaches are facing these days, and you're starting to
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see those cracks show. You know, you're starting to you're
starting to see a lot of the characteristics of what
comes with when it's pay for play. And that's how
I see it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I think with Brian Kelly it was different because, like
you did, the impression that like he made when he
first got there, right, and everyone kind of thought.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That was cringe.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
It really like he's trying to be someone he's not
and he's almost like got this imposter syndrome. And then
as you saw, I mean at least early on they
were kind of close, but they could never quite get
over the hump to win the SEC or to get
in the college Football Playoff. And one of the things
that a lot of Notre Dame fans witnessed and saw
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is they always felt like there was more room for
him to do more in recruiting and all that. Morgus
Freeman has without a doubt proven that since he's taken
over as head coach.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
With the way he's grinded, the way he's recruitered built.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
That roster at Notre Dame for Brian Kelly, it's actually
been the exact opposite of what I think LSU fans
were getting.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Not only did did not get enough wins in the
win column.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
In comparison into ed Origeron or even less Miles in
their first four years, but also if you look at
the recruiting rankings like they've they've legitimately had taken a
step back. If you go through the first four years
of Brian Kelly's recruiting tenure, or I guess it's four
years it was at LSU, they were averaging about eight
point five as far as their team recruiting ranks. This
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is for high school student athletes, and again it's you
can't use nil on the transfer portal because obviously at Orgeron,
less Miles didn't have them. But ed Orisroon was averaged
about six. You know, that was usually where his class
was not higher. And in fact, he had classes that
were in the top five over the like those six years,
in four of the six, so they were actually above that.
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They only had really one down year. Less Miles his
last six years he averaged a little it was like
a little over seven, but same thing. He averaged more
often than not a class that was like in the
top six, you know, half that time. Brian Kelly's only
had one top five class in the four years he's
been there. Now, his transfer portal class was the best
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of any of this offseason. But I'm always a leery
of like throwing that out there sometimes because it doesn't
necessarily always equate to wins. It just means you bought
enough players who are talented enough and have been proven enough.
But you know, obviously the team they're leaving either doesn't
have the funds to keep them or they don't want
to pay him to keep them.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like, let's be real about that.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Some of these teams are okay letting go of players
that are asking for these astronomical numbers, where other teams
are saying like, we'll take that. That's a dire need
for us. And we see this happen all the time
in the NFL and free agency. Teams let a player
go someone else overpays and the guy might have a
good year or two, but he never usually equates to
that contract.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And that's what you're seeing at the college football level.
That's what you're.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Seeing from you know, LSU this year now, the greater
their defense has been improved from what it was a
year ago. They got awful last year, but it hasn't
equated to them being a better team. And so to
the point about money, Like, what I find most interesting
in that I've you know, talking to some different coaches
and guys who have different feelings on this is, you know,
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Philip Foehmer signed the first deal that was like a
million bucks per year.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
To go coach at Tennessee. And I bet if you
did a study.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
On the timeline now for college football coaches since that
point and you did the twenty years thirty years prior,
you probably saw a lot more turnover because I think
with these guys being paid more money, there's more, there's
higher expectations, and with those higher expectations when when things
don't work out, especially early on, or when you've got
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you know, this imposter syndrome where he says, you know,
something weird like that, or he's dancing with the recruit
that he doesn't end up even signing, or he's chewing
out his players, or he's getting cag with the media.
Like there's so many things that Brian Kelly has done
over his time at LSU that led him not to
be likable, like as a Notre Dame alum and fan
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obviously and someone who is the day he literally left
to say he could go win championships elsewhere and started
a collective like in twenty four hours after that. Like
the one thing I'd say that is the starkest contrast
between Marcus Free and Brian Kelly is Marcus is incredibly likable.
He's genuine and likable. Brian Kelly hasn't comed off as
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either of those at any point, neither genuine or likable.
And I think when you don't have the success on
the field, and you obviously don't want to work at
it and recruit the way your predecessors have or even
the guy who replaced you a notre dame has. It
becomes really revealing. LSU is not devoid of talent ness.
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Meyer can play. They've got talent on that team. There's
no doubt about it. They'll have some first round picks.
The head coach was a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Mm yeah, they struggling in Boulder too. I wonder how
that that's that's gonna go. I just I just think
that this this coaching world we're in right now at
the college level is going. You're and you're right, it
is going. It is about how the guy is perceived.
Like Marcus Freeman is is a likable guy. He does
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check off the boxes, good looking dude, speaks well, played
the game, you know, has has all the the attributes,
has a good looking family. He he stays in shape.
Like it's crazy to think all these little things matter
moving forward. You can't be a fat, slobbingly looking guy.
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And and when like I know, Elko is like on
that borderline of I'm damn, but you had better. You
had better have a superpower if you're not checking off
some of the obvious, some of the obvious things that
are on the checklist of being a college coach had
a major blue chip and you know, superpower in football.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And the problem for Brian Kelly and Brady alluded to
it was if you think about his tenure at LSU,
you don't think about any of the big wins, You
think about the fake Cajun accent, you think about the
outbursts going after Davo Swiney, just like, none of it
is on the field and none of it is performance based.
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He just comes across really unlikable, Like he's a really
unlikable guy. And that's why, you know, LSU fans were
chanting it, and you know, he's four years in. It's
not like he didn't win games. It's just he didn't
live up to the expectations that were there. And when
he came in, there was all this conversation the yeah,
the video with the recruit like, it's just the whole
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thing was odd and it never seemed like And that's
why I wonder was it just a money thing that
he left Notre Dame. Was there talk about Notre Dame
wanting to split with Brian Kelly or was it just
him simply seeing a better offer and he wanted to
jump ship and go get more money.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
All right, So one of the things that I think
becomes wearing for athletic directors.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And this is just my general observation of what I
see in this space.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
This is not like specific to any university or any
athletic director, but there's been a power shift in this
NIL era because the the you know, the board of
regents or whatever prominent alum who's got the deep pockets
that's bank rolling usually the collective or or how this
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is operating. You know, they're in essence kind of controlling
the whole thing. Right, They're the guy who's going to
buy out the coach or write the biggest check if
they're trying to buy out that coach. They're the guy
that's gonna write the check to go find that top
play they need, or retain a player if they're trying
to leave. And so it's almost bypassed now the athletic director,
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who's the guy who's in the position to oversee a
coach that's making five times what he's making. Like the
entire process is flipped. You know, when you look at
the structure of an NFL organization, usually the general manager
and the head coach are somewhat on even footing, you know,
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and maybe that's not going to be so much the
case of what the coach is being paid or compensated,
but it's not that far off. There is a huge
contrast between what the athletic director is being compensated and
then what the head.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Coach is being compensated for some of.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
These top programs now, and the problem that creates is
is as long as that deep pocketed donor, as long
as he's got you know, the head coach has his ear,
it's really all that matters. Because that athletic director is
not gonna to bite the hand that feeds them, and
that's that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
That's that alum.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
So like I look at it in this case and
I just I sit there and say, if you look
at a bunch of the different circumstances that have happened,
it's oftentimes out of these, you know, whoever that alum is,
whoever that donor is, that's essentially calling the shots and saying.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Nope, we're done.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Like this got to the point at LSU where the
governor of the State of Louisiana was involved.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Think about that for a second, Like.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You've got the governor of the state of Louisianas involved
in the in the firing of a head coach in
college football, the state employee, Right, So l s U
is a public school, correct it is, then that's that's
that's the that's probably their employee for the employee. But
that's a typical you don't hear about that very often.
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And and that's what makes it kind of unique, is
like there's obviously a lot of again deep pocketed donors
and the lums who wanted this to happen. They didn't
want to watch whatever is going to occur in Alabama,
what in a couple of weeks when they've got to
play him. They wanted him out now, and they want
to start that process. It's going to be a competitive process.
You have Penn State, You've got Florida. You know some
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are gonna you know, argue and jockey over will what's
the better job?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Lane Kiffin just keeps sitting there winning it whole miss,
and he looks newer and better looking, and he does.
I think it's Tan's got better, his teeth got wider, Like,
he just keeps looking better and better.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right, the longer this whole thing plays on, And.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
The interesting thing about that yeah, Hey, you look good
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I ain't just saying geez.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
I just think that's the biggest change right now in
college football that no one wants to really acknowledge is
the person with the most power is someone who is
not even necessarily operating within the confines of this college structure.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
And that's just the truth.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Like it's the deep pocketed donor someone on the outside
is running a business, has a ton of money, that
loves his school and wants to see them succeed. And
that's ultimately who's controlling it.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
We can say the athletic directors running the search firm
and all this stuff, and it's you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Connecting the few.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
But you better go get that guy to check off
the box of whoever you're going to hire, otherwise you're
not getting that check.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I think that this next round of coaches that will
eventually circulate through all of these schools, I don't think
anyone is safe. If you're in the SEC and you're
in the Big ten, I don't think any coach is safe.
And I don't know how how long some of these
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coaches will be in pockety.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Think about like Michigan State, melt Tucker signed a huge deal, right,
what Jonathan Smith get paid to go there, and they're
talking about he's maybe not gonna make it. I mean now, no, granted,
that's kind of the going great or price. And what's
crazy about this is if you're a really good football
coach and you're at any one of these schools, you're
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getting paid more because everyone's trying to poach you, and
every university has to sit there and be like, well,
we got to pay them more. So when you go
back to like what happened with Brian Kelly, every single year,
it becomes really difficult for that athletic director because if
you're a good football coach and you're one of the
top programs, the NFL is gonna come after you, other
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college program's gonna come after you. So what do you
think that agent's doing for his coach. He's saying, Hey,
many's they want to pay him this. I want to
pay him this. So as an athletic direct you're gonna
go back to the donor. You're gonna go back to
the school and say we got to pay more. We
got to pay more. Every year, every year there's someone
coming after him, whether it's from above or level playing
(31:01):
fielder in that league, like someone's trying to pay him more.
That gets wearing. I mean after a while too, you
kind of have to look at it and say, like,
all right, like where are we at? And you know,
could we find someone who we feel like I could
do an equal, if not better job. And in regards
to Brian Kelly and you know, Lincoln Riley, we've talked
about this. They both had the same agent at the time.
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I don't think Lincoln Riley's represented by Trace Armstrong anymore.
But you know, those deals were kind of set in
place and they kind of swapped and they ended up
where they ended up. And I don't know that Southern
calor LSU was happy with what they signed up for
what they're paying. You know, obviously LSU is not, but
what Southern Cal is paying, even Lincoln Riley and what
they're getting out of that. They had a tough one
this figure versus Nebraska. They're favored, but it's been actually
(31:46):
a crazy spot where you know, when when Lincoln Riley's
been favored as a s C, you know, they've.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Struggled on the road.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I think like he's won like three times or whatever,
or I should say covered like three times, and I
think two of those versus UCLA at the Rose Bowl,
Like I mean, so I think they're laying They're laying
seven points right now, and they're playing in Lincoln this week.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Has it been a good spot for him?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just think it creates such a dilemma, such a
dilemma because you gotta basically, in essence, walk up to
these coaches with a blank check in order to be
able to get them to come coach your team. You
gotta go to them with the blank check in order
to get them to leave where they're at or to
get them to come where you are over another school,
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and then you're locked in with them and you got
to do a buyout. Like it's it's a horrible time
in my estimation for coaches in terms of stability and
being able to stay out of place for an extended
amount of time. I'm not sure how that you know
how that will play out in terms of long tenured coaches,
But what we do know is is that there will
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be a lot of guys getting very wealthy in the
coaching field that will be basically bouncing around or you know,
I guess it's it's in contracts that they have to
within what is it, like good good faith, go seek
a different job try.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
And that actually applies to James Franklin.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
He's got mitigation in his contract, so like as soon
as he got fired, he asked to publicly say like, yeah,
I can't wait to go coach.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Somewhere else, right, because he has to actively see to
go coach.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah. So, and I don't even know how that's going
to offset what these guys are signing in terms of
guaranteed contracts for the amount of time that they're signing him.
Otherwise the coach says, Hey, I'm gonna just go over here.
And and these schools are now in position where they're
going to be leveraged exactly. I mean that's always been
(33:50):
how it is, leverage the next school to use it
against this school to get what it is that you want.
But I think it's even worse now.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Well because there's so many like there's obviously if you
compare it to the NFL, you know, and this is
where like the economics start to play a factor. Right,
So the NFL generates about ten billion annually from its
TV media rights deal. The big ten I believe is
the most expensive as of now that they generate about
over a billion, So there's a ten time difference between
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the two. So NFL teams can largely move on from
a staff because it's not just the head coach. You know,
you're signing up your coordinators to these handsome deals too,
But they can move on from them and kind of
start over because they are generating so much revenue, not
just when the TV media rights deal, but just to
give it a comparison, you know, for and by the way,
like think about the difference in well, they play seventeen games,
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so they're getting eight or nine home games a year.
Right with college football you're hopefully getting that maybe with
a playoff game, but you know, usually it's not that
many home games, so you're not getting as much ticket
sales as concessions all that. You know, these schools aren't
making quite as much from their TV media rights deal.
Whatever the revenue share break that is for the big
(35:00):
ten for each team, you can do the math on that,
or you know, Notre Dame is a good example because
it's the only team and I think they're getting a
little over a fifty some million a year for NBC
and then they get partial rev share from the acc.
So when you talk about like stroking a check for
fifty some million, and that's just the head coach, that's not.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
The coordinators too.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Now, granted they're not quite to that extent. Like but
for example, Penn State, Knowles wasn't cheap, gold wasn't cheap.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yes, not at all.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
You start looking at the numbers they add up and
you go, all right, how are we going to do this?
Like are we able to tap into the endowment? Now
that might be a conversation for down the road, but
you know, typically endowed funds they've got a general purpose.
You know, there is or I should say general, there's
a specific purpose, and so those funds have to be
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allocated towards you know where those funds were designated.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Now, now again.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
There's some gray area there, and somebody who's smarter than
I am would would tell you how that works. But
you know, there's the problem trying to point out as
the business model.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
College schools aren't equipped yet to be able to handle
the turnover that we're seeing. And that's why I keep
going back to it's not that the school probably doesn't
want to be in this position. It's the donors and
the alums, like they're the ones with the money where
the school just says, okay, you want, I'm gone write
to check, like like help us out then, because otherwise
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we're in a really, really tough spot and they'll just
threaten and say, well I'm not going to donate that.
It's like, well, okay, but then we can't move on
from them.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So we're gonna be in the same position every year
until you do something. You get a group of people
want to do something to be the difference. I mean,
there's some wild conversations that are happening right now behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, creating a lot of opportunities for business people too,
I mean, especially like former students and stuff like that
that have always dreamed about being a part of the
program at a higher level. Like a lot a lot
of those dudes was his name Shapiro as is name,
the guy, the guy that was out of Miami, Devan Shapiro,
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like those, There's going to be a lot of them
popping up a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
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Speaker 6 (37:29):
All right, all right, So Sunday morning, I walk out
into the garage and I was doing some stuff, and
I noticed there's a gigantic hole I shouldn't say gigantic,
but about the size of a bowling ball hole in
the drywall down where some electrical wiring comes into the
house for some exterior lights.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
And it's chewed through.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, this has to be
some sort of rodent mouse. But I was like, man,
my mouse is already chewed through like wires like that, So.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I think it like a rat.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
And as I'm looking around more and more, I'm like,
all right, I'm looking at what it got into.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
And so I'm sorting of say, okay, I.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Need to clear out the garage see if whatever's got
in is still here.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Now obviously, how did it get there?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Well, my wife likes to leave the garage door open
for like hours upon hours at times of the year
where it's not smart, so that's most likely the culper
because there's no like hole in the exterior or something.
So as I'm clearing this stuff out. I see this
little furry fellow, and he's not really that little. I'm
looking underneath and I still to this day do not
(38:36):
know if it's a beaver or a gopher.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
But because it's got a kind of great hair, it's
definitely not a groundhog. I know that. I know that.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
But what I ended up trying to flush it out
to one side of the garage to then push it
out this one garage door. Well what darted back towards
my wife as she's watching this, and instead of like
trying to stand her ground, like shoot it a certain direction,
she runs to run behind her car that's parked in
the garage. So what does it do? It runs up
(39:08):
underneath and crawls up up up under there. So then
she looks at.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Me, she's like, well, what do I do?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I go, well, back it out of the garage, like
I'm not I don't want that to sit in here.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So then it was like we're trying to spray it
and see if it came down she drove it around.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I don't even know it could still be up underneath
the carle we have no idea.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh wow, yeah, that's an ir for certain A car
might be on IR at someone your car's got beaver.
That road in is going beyond IR big cats the
right wire in there, that is do it, folks.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Nice beaver dang.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
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Speaker 2 (40:00):
The uh Baltimore Ravens saved their season yesterday with that win,
because it kind of feels for a.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Week, right, I mean, that was a super big, big
game for them, and and that was it was not
looking good knowing that Lamar Jackson wasn't going to play.
You know, I don't know how much confidence you know,
one would have in the ability to win a game
(40:29):
of this magnitude not having your your star quarterback in
so but it was a big win because they bought
themselves some time. And look the Beers, honestly, they're they're
not a bad team like they they look pretty pretty decent.
Like they were competitive. So I mean, I'm chunks.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Caleb Williams has gotten worse like as the season's gone on,
and and people will go, well, whatever the Cowboys game,
everybody throws for record yards against the Cowboys or defense.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Their defense is so bad.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's bad.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
They're so bad at Dallas. It's awful.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
I mean, I don't know how you don't make a
change at some point soon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
M I don't know, but I do believe that the
Ravens they're they're far from out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I thought I was going to get away with one
because we were we were working under the impression that
Lamar Jackson was going to be available because it was
trending that way. And you know, he uh practiced as
a full participant on Friday, and then afterwards retroactively the
Ravens listed him as limited the following day.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
They looked at the beers, they were like, you know what,
we could get through this one with snoop snoop.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
So come on, gonna do it. Who who messed up?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Though?
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Was the training staff? Was it the head coat? I mean,
who messed up on this one?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
John Harbaugh spoke about the quote unquote mix up after
the game yesterday.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
As a coach, what you do is you you ask,
you might you know, how is he doing?
Speaker 5 (42:12):
That's about as much as you do.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
How are we doing? And what do you think and
then you get the guys ready that are going to play.
Then when the guys come back to practice, you put
them in there, you practice, And that's how it works.
On the coaching side, coaches aren't involved with you know,
statuses and whether guys play or not.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
That's not a coaching decision.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean they don't have any say or any in
but on what's going on or how that whole thing
lays out. I know he's coming. I know they've got
a short week because they're playing the Dolphins this week,
and so I could understand the idea that, well, look
it's a short week, you know, why rush him back here?
You know haven't written. But there's seasons on the line
with every game. And I just wonder how many people there,
(42:51):
like maybe Lamar was like, no, I'm not ready, and
they thought he was. And so he's just going to
focus on Miami this short week as opposed to play
the Bear.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Seemingly he could take another week to get healthier. I mean,
you don't want to risk it, and like you could
brag about being a good enough team where you can't
you don't have to play your start quarterback. I mean,
they're they're at two wins. It's all hands on deck
at this point.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
They're for sure gonna get fined, like the organization's gonna
get fined.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Well, they should get fined. I mean, it's not that complicated.
Either he was a full participant or he wasn't. Coming
from someone who fully expected Lamar Jackson to play, I
was shocked, and I'm like, dude, this almost I mean,
this usually doesn't happen in the NFL. There's rare instances
when it does, or maybe there's a setback or something.
(43:44):
This they just try to be like, oh yeah, sorry,
are bad.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
It's bush league, man.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Well there's a lot of people, there's a lot of
people out there, like Jonas Knox who that might have
persuaded their bet to take the Chicago.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Bears for some reason.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Sure why, Like that's sitting at six and a half
after that news came out and the line dropped, and
I'm thinking, man, at time of the pick, like we
got it at six and a half and then it
didn't matter.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
It just didn't matter. Is that just just the Bears
aren't good? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
They can't throw the ball the job? I say, their
defense is pretty dang good. Man, they're aggressive. I thought
I thought there were a lot of calls that went
against them, you know, and in that game, but I mean,
I thought they were pretty competitive. I don't. I don't
believe the score is indicative of what this Bears team is.
(44:36):
And I think that if they were to correct some
of the things that they're defishing. In with with Williams,
I think they're like they're a team that can win,
like I do. I think they're a team that is
actually possibly developing into a team that can win, like
I Maybe you didn't like it the way uh, you know,
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Caleb Williams looked, but I didn't think the team looked
look bad at all. And they listen, I know Lamar
Jackson wasn't in the game, but I thought they played
played fairly well.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
So they beat the Raiders on a block kick, they
beat the Commanders because they were just giving away the football,
and then they beat the Saints and offensively they were
not good in that game.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Like that's just and the Cowboys stink. I don't.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't know, I don't see it like and listen,
I would love to look at this and go, oh,
you know, they're gonna be a wild card teams. I'm
pretty sure I had them as a wildcard team with
our picks, which is embarrassing upon further but I just
it doesn't It doesn't look like Caleb Williams is getting better.
(45:45):
It looks like it's either stagnant or maybe a little
bit worse as the season goes on.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I think that's harsh
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
H he's pretty much got Offensive Player of the Year
wrapped up at this point. I would say MVP, but
they don't give that to running backs anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
So Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, yes, they was jocking him yesterday.
That's for certain. It's the best team in the league
right now. It's crazy to say they're up there. Yeah,
look very good. I mean when we say best team,
I mean, I know they're doing the best, but they're
like the number one overall team, right I don't know
(00:43):
that that makes them the I mean, obviously they're the
best team statistic, I mean by by category of wins
and losses, But are they the best team right now?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Can they stand up against Buffalo or Kansas City? Can
can they win win?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Though?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Those games?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
They run the ball, they've gotten really good quarterback play.
They seem like they fit all the criteria and if
we're being honest, they should be undefeated. That game they
lost was against the Rams. That was when you know,
the dude dropped the ball Ady Mitchell before he crossed
the goal line. There's another holding call that wiped out
a Jonathan Taylor long run. So, yeah, you were saying,
(01:24):
you know, teams, you know, it's a pass first league now,
But Jonathan Taylor has been fantastic, so overwhelming favor to
win Offensive Player of the Year right now.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm just saying, and I'm I think that they're they're
a fine team, and they're showing that they can play
at a high level and they're doing well. But I mean,
outside of the Chargers, do they have a signature win?
Uh Denver? They should have lost that game. I mean,
(01:55):
and that's well, what week is that? But what week
is that? I that was that ridiculous leverage call? What
week was this?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
What week was ridiculous? It's a rule, dude, it was
it was.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It was a it was a week call. It wasn't really.
I just I just feel like the way they had
them really beat I just I just don't know that.
I don't I don't know if the Colts are are
fools gold or not. I just don't know. They look good.
The record says they're good, but best team in the league.
(02:29):
I'm not ready to say best team in the league,
even though they look good. Jonathan Taylor runs for three yesterday.
I get all that he's having a great year. Is
Daniel Jones even in consideration for comeback Player of the Year,
because I don't even know what the hell the rules
on that is anymore like a back player of the year, Like, okay,
you went there what last year?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, as we've learned, when a guy almost dies on
the field, uh, that mean he's gonna win.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Dang.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So I just I just don't understand which what definition
applies to comeback player?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
All right, So, speaking of that comeback player of the year,
who would you guys say right now on DraftKings is
the favorite for comeback to I guarantee you guys will
not get this because I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to try.
Joe Shador Sanders.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Comeback player of the year favorite right now in the NFL,
according to DraftKings, Dak Prescott didn't he play last year? Yeah, okay,
I mean he was banged up a little bit. It
was banged up a little bit. But I mean we're
gonna I mean Daniel Jones is I mean, he didn't
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play much last year, That's.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
What I'm saying. But was he what was he did
he go to the Colts last year or was this
his first year? We went to Minnesota. Yeah, see, I
almost feel like this should be comeback Like, isn't that
what happened with the one quarterback? That guy comeback player
of the year. He went to a different team. He
was playing, but he went to a different team, played well,
And the one comeback player of the year was like
(04:05):
a quarterback when.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Flacco won it, he was he was he had wasn't
playing at all and they brought him in And.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Okay, that's different if he wasn't playing at all. Yeah,
there was one where he was playing and he came back,
he went to a different team. And one comeback player of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The year, Christian McCaffrey's second on that list, And that
would make a little bit more sense to me than
maybe Dak Preston.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Was he out for the season last year? McCaffrey, I
mean he missed a lot of pretty much, he missed
a lot. I just don't understand comeback player of the Year.
I don't understand like the parameters of it, where it starts,
where it is.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I don't think anyone does.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's a mystery no one really understands.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, I just, I just I'm curious as to what
the Colts will do as as this season you know,
goes on. Like they have a manageable they have a manageable.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
They play in a bad division, let's just call what
it is.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Yeah, everyone looks at them as lesser because they plan
a bad division, and so we say their schedule is manageable.
But dude, they beat who they beat and by the way,
like they're not really allowing it to be close. Like
let's compare this to the college ranks. Okay, like there's
another team in the state of Indiana or Indiana who
seems to get this like same flack where they're like, well,
(05:25):
they don't really play well, Like they beat the crap
out of the teams they play Like at some point,
and this is the NFL, like these guys are all
being paid and like they're still absolutely demolishing everyone that
gets in their way for the most part. Now again,
Broncos game was closed. There's a few close games in there,
but like, if you're gonna like, well, what they're doing
against the bad teams, they beat the crap out of them.
(05:47):
I think they're a really good football team, Like I
think we're all waiting for like that.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But are they the best right now?
Speaker 6 (05:53):
Yes, Like it's hard to say that because their quarterbacks
not Josh Allen, It's not Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson.
I get that, But Daniel Jones is playing really well.
And to Jonas's point, they've got potentially the offensive player
of the year. They have an offensive line that's played good.
They've got a defense that under lou Anarumo is like
taking its next step and really come around.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
They're they're a.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Good football team. Like they are the best right now
in the league. You got to give them credit for
who they've been, what they've done all Right, You saw
them and like Coop says, like, oh that Denver should
have won that, dude, they did on that.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Denver's a good football team.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, Like that's a good one to throw the hooks.
Throw up the hooks, throw.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The hooks up. They shouldn't have beat us, Brady, you
saw the Colts up close and personal. Is this staying power?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Is this?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, that's a team that's going to be around for them,
Like in the playoffs to the playoffs. I know that
I know that trajectory is pretty obvious. The way they're playing.
I don't see them falling off of a cliff and
missing the playoffs. Do they have that ability to sustain
in the playoffs?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yes, they can run, they can throw, they have a
quarterback who can take off make big plays. Like everyone's
just hesitating because again it's it's it's a little bit
about Daniel Jones to me, and they don't I don't
know if they believe in him.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Or anythink that's the biggest question mark and can we
believe that?
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But the people want to see them against like better
teams and be able to beat those teams. Well, guess
what you got Pittsburgh. I believe next week right at Pittsburgh,
and then in a few weeks, I believe if they
get to buy then they go to Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's what I'm saying. I want to see and listen.
I'm not saying I'm prepared to say that there's fools
goal as a team if they lose to those teams.
I'm not saying that either. I'm just saying I don't
know if they had a real signature like the early
the early win against the Broncos. But that's early. I'm saying,
(07:54):
now that we're into the swing of the season, who
have they who have they beaten? That is a note,
That's all I'm saying like that to me. And I'm again,
I'm not. I'm not gonna jump out here and be like, oh,
they I told you they stink like they couldn't beat
like this team. I'm not. I'm not prepared to say
(08:16):
that either. I would just be more. I probably would
be more. I guess expecting that they they stumble against
one of those types of teams. I will say this,
whatever it is they do against like a team like
the Chiefs, that's gonna tell me a lot. Because if
you're dominating, you're winning by double, you know, two possession
(08:38):
games against these these lesser teams, which that is what
they are. What does it look like when you get
up against a real like a real heavyweight, Like do
your punches do they hit the same?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Like?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Do they land the same? Are your body blows? Are
your are your big shots are Are they are they
really what we thought they were? Or are you you know,
are you now in the big pond playing with the
big fish and it doesn't work the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Have you guys seen Jonathan Taylor's touchdown celebration the like
stutter stutter man. He comes to like not a dead
stop obviously, but he slows down at a rapid pace
to throw that stutter on.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And I'm like, dude, whether that's people still trying to tackle,
that's so disrespectful. It is so dope.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, but I'm just like, man, is he gonna like
pull something or something?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
He's He's in a dead sprint and all of a sudden,
you know, that's kind of it's kind of fly. It
is kind of like if I tried to do that,
my knee would explode.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
You know what upsets me by the way shooting at
you don't see what I'm shooting at. That's a three
What you don't see what I'm shooting at? You you're blind, bro?
No you can't see bro anyway anyway, what was I saying?
(09:59):
You're stupid? Bruh?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, yeah, this is the celebration. You know, you like
the celebration.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
This is why I'm upset about Saquon still to this day.
You see how quickly it can shift. And Saquon had
a good little little game yesterday. No, he's as growing
as now sore, like he's a little sore. But here's
the thing. From year to year, especially at that position,
you're never gonna he's never gonna have anywhere near close
(10:28):
to that type of season ever. Again, I know people
wanted to be positive and say, oh my goodness, he
could do this every single year. He can have that
type of success. That's so great what he did. He
was such a team player. Dad, this, that and the other.
Is Jonathan Taylor? Like I know he got to to
his yard is the third quickest or something like that.
There was some stat that they were saying, but is
(10:50):
he having a better year than what Saquon was having
last year? I feel like Quon was having a I mean,
I know he was having a historical, historical year in
terms of being able to track down Eric Dickerson's you know,
single season rushing record. Is is Jonathan Taylor on any
(11:12):
type of trajectory like that with what he's doing? Is
it touchdowns? Is it? Is it yards? You know, total yards?
What it like our rush yards? What like? Is he
doing anything that special? Because I'm not I'm not up
on it to that that degree.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think he's got twelve touchdowns so far, this year,
he's got close to a thousand. I think he's you know,
at like eight fifty. And yet we're talking about him
for MVP for the league. Well, offensive Player of the Year.
He's not gonna win MVP. Okay, Offensive Player the Year. Okay,
I about to say, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Not a running back award anymore. But if Sakwon Barkley
gets that record, he gets in MVP the League. Yeah,
and he's never gonna come close to that ever again.
So you could have knocked out the final week like
he could have played. He quit, well, they made him
sit down. They made him sit down. I just think
(12:05):
he should have got I'm going to forever as long
as we do this show, when there's a comparable that
comes up at that position, I'm going to always wonder
why they did not go after that record. I get, oh,
we're trying to prepare for the super Bowl. I get
all that. Let's rest all of our guys. I get
all that. Then get him to get him to the
record as quickly as you can and get them out
(12:25):
of there. But you're never going to get that close
to that record again if it's Sakwon Barkley, and that stinks.
That that you took that man's unselfish nature, selfless, selfless
approach to what he does, and you used it against him.
And now he'll never come close to that record again.
And he could have got MVP, and that could have
(12:46):
went a long way, a longer way, having that accolade
on his resume, and I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
All right, Well, the numbers would show he sa Quan
is rushing for about twenty yards more per game than
Jonathan Taylor, So that would put Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
About at the end of the season.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
And this is assuming that Jonathan Taylor played all seventeen games.
He would be about two hundred yards short, so he'd
be somewhere around like eighteen hundred yards. Doing other differences, though,
Jonathan Taylor's catching for about eight yards more per game,
so he as far as total yards from scrimmage, it
would be close.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
But Sae Kwon Wu still have gotten him.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, thank you for that.
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Speaker 3 (14:14):
Man, it wasn't even that long ago that Brian Kelly,
I ain't none me my family, I'm winning you.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Was taking victory laps and sideswiping Davos Sweeney after their
week one when in Clemson's death Valley, and now just
butt it of two months later, less than two months later,
that'll do it. Brian Kelly has been fired by LSU.
Apparently they're still working through how to figure out his
(14:45):
fifty four million dollar buyout. But Brian Kelly and his
run at LSU has come to an end. And for
all the talk and all the gusto and everything that
he threw out there over the past couple of years.
Probably not the way I think a lot of LSU
fans thought this was going to play out because they
got their ass whooped my Texas A and M over
(15:06):
the weekend.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Well, first off, like both both these things can be true.
The first is Texas A and M is a really
good football team.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Mike Elko, who is a.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Former defensive assistant under Brian Kelly while on Notre Dame,
is a hell of.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
A football coach.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
And I'll say this right now, Marcel Reid, their quarterback,
is a player that I've watched every week, and that
young man has continued to improve.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
He should be if you.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Want to place a long bit on the Heisman, like
I'd throw his name right now in the ring, you
should be able to get some good odds because they're
going to play a little more difficult schedule the rest
of the way. But he's gonna be a guy that's
draft eligible, and from watching what I see at him,
like he'd be a guy that I would say could
be a first round pick.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I mean, he's got all the talent and skill.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
It just comes down to like development and taking that
next step, and from last year this year he's done that.
I mean, his mechanics is full work, Like everything's been
much improved. So Marcel reads a guy that like, I'm
keeping an eye on for the rest of the season, but
also to see what he does after this year, because
I think he's got a great chance of being one
of the top quarterbacks taken just on the field in
comparison to like Garret Nussmeyer, who look behind the scenes.
(16:19):
When I talked to like different talent evaluators, everyone was
like afraid to say it publicly, but they kind of
like gushed about him. They loved nus and Marcel read
hands down outplayed him. It wasn't even close, Like wasn't
even close this past week. So if that gives you
any indication of what is going to happen the draft
next year, I would say this draft is, by the
(16:40):
way as open as it's ever been for like who
potentially could be that number one overall pick right now.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I just think that it is a very, very volatile
time to be a coach at the college level at
a major university with a large contract. It's a it's
a it's a volatile time, and it's it's a unsettling
time because in il transfer portal all of these elements
(17:10):
added extra elements of being able to pay players players,
being able to transfer is now turning into a job
that I don't I don't believe. I don't believe that
most of the coaches in the coaching industry have been
properly trained or equipped on being able to I don't
(17:32):
know how you could be properly trained and equipped to
be able to handle where we are right now, so
to be able to get a team to play well,
play at a high level, stick together from season to season.
You know, these are these are the pressures that that
these coaches are facing these days, and you're starting to
(17:53):
see those cracks show. You know, you're starting to you're
starting to see a lot of the characteristics of what
comes with when it's pay for play. And that's how
I see it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I think with Brian Kelly it was different because, like
you did, the impression that like he made when he
first got there, right, and everyone kind of thought.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
That was cringe.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
It really like he's trying to be someone he's not
and he's almost like got this imposter syndrome. And then
as you saw, I mean at least early on they
were kind of close, but they could never quite get
over the hump to win the SEC or to get
in the college Football Playoff. And one of the things
that a lot of Notre Dame fans witnessed and saw
(18:35):
is they always felt like there was more room for
him to do more in recruiting and all that. Morgus
Freeman has without a doubt proven that since he's taken
over as head coach.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
With the way he's grinded, the way he's recruitered built.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
That roster at Notre Dame for Brian Kelly, it's actually
been the exact opposite of what I think LSU fans
were getting.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Not only did did not get enough wins in the
win column.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
In comparison into ed Origeron or even less Miles in
their first four years, but also if you look at
the recruiting rankings like they've they've legitimately had taken a
step back. If you go through the first four years
of Brian Kelly's recruiting tenure, or I guess it's four
years it was at LSU, they were averaging about eight
point five as far as their team recruiting ranks. This
(19:22):
is for high school student athletes, and again it's you
can't use nil on the transfer portal because obviously at Orgeron,
less Miles didn't have them. But ed Orisroon was averaged
about six. You know, that was usually where his class
was not higher. And in fact, he had classes that
were in the top five over the like those six years,
in four of the six, so they were actually above that.
(19:45):
They only had really one down year. Less Miles his
last six years he averaged a little it was like
a little over seven, but same thing. He averaged more
often than not a class that was like in the
top six, you know, half that time. Brian Kelly's only
had one top five class in the four years he's
been there. Now, his transfer portal class was the best
(20:06):
of any of this offseason. But I'm always a leery
of like throwing that out there sometimes because it doesn't
necessarily always equate to wins. It just means you bought
enough players who are talented enough and have been proven enough.
But you know, obviously the team they're leaving either doesn't
have the funds to keep them or they don't want
to pay him to keep them.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like, let's be real about that.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Some of these teams are okay letting go of players
that are asking for these astronomical numbers, where other teams
are saying like, we'll take that. That's a dire need
for us. And we see this happen all the time
in the NFL and free agency. Teams let a player
go someone else overpays and the guy might have a
good year or two, but he never usually equates to
that contract.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And that's what you're seeing at the college football level.
That's what you're.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Seeing from you know, LSU this year now, the greater
their defense has been improved from what it was a
year ago. They got awful last year, but it hasn't
equated to them being a better team. And so to
the point about money, Like, what I find most interesting
in that I've you know, talking to some different coaches
and guys who have different feelings on this is, you know,
(21:12):
Philip Foehmer signed the first deal that was like a
million bucks per year.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
To go coach at Tennessee. And I bet if you
did a study.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
On the timeline now for college football coaches since that
point and you did the twenty years thirty years prior,
you probably saw a lot more turnover because I think
with these guys being paid more money, there's more, there's
higher expectations, and with those higher expectations when when things
don't work out, especially early on, or when you've got
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you know, this imposter syndrome where he says, you know,
something weird like that, or he's dancing with the recruit
that he doesn't end up even signing, or he's chewing
out his players, or he's getting cag with the media.
Like there's so many things that Brian Kelly has done
over his time at LSU that led him not to
be likable, like as a Notre Dame alum and fan
(22:06):
obviously and someone who is the day he literally left
to say he could go win championships elsewhere and started
a collective like in twenty four hours after that. Like
the one thing I'd say that is the starkest contrast
between Marcus Free and Brian Kelly is Marcus is incredibly likable.
He's genuine and likable. Brian Kelly hasn't comed off as
(22:29):
either of those at any point, neither genuine or likable.
And I think when you don't have the success on
the field, and you obviously don't want to work at
it and recruit the way your predecessors have or even
the guy who replaced you a notre dame has. It
becomes really revealing. LSU is not devoid of talent ness.
(22:53):
Meyer can play. They've got talent on that team. There's
no doubt about it. They'll have some first round picks.
The head coach was a problem.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Mm yeah, they struggling in Boulder too. I wonder how
that that's that's gonna go. I just I just think
that this this coaching world we're in right now at
the college level is going. You're and you're right, it
is going. It is about how the guy is perceived.
Like Marcus Freeman is is a likable guy. He does
(23:26):
check off the boxes, good looking dude, speaks well, played
the game, you know, has has all the the attributes,
has a good looking family. He he stays in shape.
Like it's crazy to think all these little things matter
moving forward. You can't be a fat, slobbingly looking guy.
(23:49):
And and when like I know, Elko is like on
that borderline of I'm damn, but you had better. You
had better have a superpower if you're not checking off
some of the obvious, some of the obvious things that
are on the checklist of being a college coach had
a major blue chip and you know, superpower in football.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And the problem for Brian Kelly and Brady alluded to
it was if you think about his tenure at LSU,
you don't think about any of the big wins, You
think about the fake Cajun accent, you think about the
outbursts going after Davo Swiney, just like, none of it
is on the field and none of it is performance based.
(24:35):
He just comes across really unlikable, Like he's a really
unlikable guy. And that's why, you know, LSU fans were
chanting it, and you know, he's four years in. It's
not like he didn't win games. It's just he didn't
live up to the expectations that were there. And when
he came in, there was all this conversation the yeah,
the video with the recruit like, it's just the whole
(24:58):
thing was odd and it never seemed like And that's
why I wonder was it just a money thing that
he left Notre Dame. Was there talk about Notre Dame
wanting to split with Brian Kelly or was it just
him simply seeing a better offer and he wanted to
jump ship and go get more money.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
All right, So one of the things that I think
becomes wearing for athletic directors.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
And this is just my general observation of what I
see in this space.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
This is not like specific to any university or any
athletic director, but there's been a power shift in this
NIL era because the the you know, the board of
regents or whatever prominent alum who's got the deep pockets
that's bank rolling usually the collective or or how this
(25:45):
is operating. You know, they're in essence kind of controlling
the whole thing. Right, They're the guy who's going to
buy out the coach or write the biggest check if
they're trying to buy out that coach. They're the guy
that's gonna write the check to go find that top
play they need, or retain a player if they're trying
to leave. And so it's almost bypassed now the athletic director,
(26:07):
who's the guy who's in the position to oversee a
coach that's making five times what he's making. Like the
entire process is flipped. You know, when you look at
the structure of an NFL organization, usually the general manager
and the head coach are somewhat on even footing, you know,
(26:29):
and maybe that's not going to be so much the
case of what the coach is being paid or compensated,
but it's not that far off. There is a huge
contrast between what the athletic director is being compensated and
then what the head.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Coach is being compensated for some of.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
These top programs now, and the problem that creates is
is as long as that deep pocketed donor, as long
as he's got you know, the head coach has his ear,
it's really all that matters. Because that athletic director is
not gonna to bite the hand that feeds them, and
that's that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
That's that alum.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
So like I look at it in this case and
I just I sit there and say, if you look
at a bunch of the different circumstances that have happened,
it's oftentimes out of these, you know, whoever that alum is,
whoever that donor is, that's essentially calling the shots and saying.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Nope, we're done.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Like this got to the point at LSU where the
governor of the State of Louisiana was involved.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Think about that for a second, Like.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
You've got the governor of the state of Louisianas involved
in the in the firing of a head coach in
college football, the state employee, Right, So l s U
is a public school, correct it is, then that's that's
that's the that's probably their employee for the employee. But
that's a typical you don't hear about that very often.
(27:57):
And and that's what makes it kind of unique, is
like there's obviously a lot of again deep pocketed donors
and the lums who wanted this to happen. They didn't
want to watch whatever is going to occur in Alabama,
what in a couple of weeks when they've got to
play him. They wanted him out now, and they want
to start that process. It's going to be a competitive process.
You have Penn State, You've got Florida. You know some
(28:19):
are gonna you know, argue and jockey over will what's
the better job?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Lane Kiffin just keeps sitting there winning it whole miss,
and he looks newer and better looking, and he does.
I think it's Tan's got better, his teeth got wider, Like,
he just keeps looking better and better.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right, the longer this whole thing plays on, And.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
The interesting thing about that yeah, Hey, you look good
to me.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I ain't just saying geez.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
I just think that's the biggest change right now in
college football that no one wants to really acknowledge is
the person with the most power is someone who is
not even necessarily operating within the confines of this college structure.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
And that's just the truth.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Like it's the deep pocketed donor someone on the outside
is running a business, has a ton of money, that
loves his school and wants to see them succeed. And
that's ultimately who's controlling it.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Now.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
We can say the athletic directors running the search firm
and all this stuff, and it's you know.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Connecting the few.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
But you better go get that guy to check off
the box of whoever you're going to hire, otherwise you're
not getting that check.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I think that this next round of coaches that will
eventually circulate through all of these schools, I don't think
anyone is safe. If you're in the SEC and you're
in the Big ten, I don't think any coach is safe.
And I don't know how how long some of these
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coaches will be in pockety.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Think about like Michigan State, melt Tucker signed a huge deal, right,
what Jonathan Smith get paid to go there, and they're
talking about he's maybe not gonna make it. I mean now, no, granted,
that's kind of the going great or price. And what's
crazy about this is if you're a really good football
coach and you're at any one of these schools, you're
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getting paid more because everyone's trying to poach you, and
every university has to sit there and be like, well,
we got to pay them more. So when you go
back to like what happened with Brian Kelly, every single year,
it becomes really difficult for that athletic director because if
you're a good football coach and you're one of the
top programs, the NFL is gonna come after you, other
(30:39):
college program's gonna come after you. So what do you
think that agent's doing for his coach. He's saying, Hey,
many's they want to pay him this. I want to
pay him this. So as an athletic direct you're gonna
go back to the donor. You're gonna go back to
the school and say we got to pay more. We
got to pay more. Every year, every year there's someone
coming after him, whether it's from above or level playing
(31:01):
fielder in that league, like someone's trying to pay him more.
That gets wearing. I mean after a while too, you
kind of have to look at it and say, like,
all right, like where are we at? And you know,
could we find someone who we feel like I could
do an equal, if not better job. And in regards
to Brian Kelly and you know, Lincoln Riley, we've talked
about this. They both had the same agent at the time.
(31:22):
I don't think Lincoln Riley's represented by Trace Armstrong anymore.
But you know, those deals were kind of set in
place and they kind of swapped and they ended up
where they ended up. And I don't know that Southern
calor LSU was happy with what they signed up for
what they're paying. You know, obviously LSU is not, but
what Southern Cal is paying, even Lincoln Riley and what
they're getting out of that. They had a tough one
this figure versus Nebraska. They're favored, but it's been actually
(31:46):
a crazy spot where you know, when when Lincoln Riley's
been favored as a s C, you know, they've.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Struggled on the road.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
I think like he's won like three times or whatever,
or I should say covered like three times, and I
think two of those versus UCLA at the Rose Bowl,
Like I mean, so I think they're laying They're laying
seven points right now, and they're playing in Lincoln this week.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Has it been a good spot for him?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just think it creates such a dilemma, such a
dilemma because you gotta basically, in essence, walk up to
these coaches with a blank check in order to be
able to get them to come coach your team. You
gotta go to them with the blank check in order
to get them to leave where they're at or to
get them to come where you are over another school,
(32:35):
and then you're locked in with them and you got
to do a buyout. Like it's it's a horrible time
in my estimation for coaches in terms of stability and
being able to stay out of place for an extended
amount of time. I'm not sure how that you know
how that will play out in terms of long tenured coaches,
But what we do know is is that there will
(32:56):
be a lot of guys getting very wealthy in the
coaching field that will be basically bouncing around or you know,
I guess it's it's in contracts that they have to
within what is it, like good good faith, go seek
a different job try.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
And that actually applies to James Franklin.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
He's got mitigation in his contract, so like as soon
as he got fired, he asked to publicly say like, yeah,
I can't wait to go coach.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Somewhere else, right, because he has to actively see to
go coach.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah. So, and I don't even know how that's going
to offset what these guys are signing in terms of
guaranteed contracts for the amount of time that they're signing him.
Otherwise the coach says, Hey, I'm gonna just go over here.
And and these schools are now in position where they're
going to be leveraged exactly. I mean that's always been
(33:50):
how it is, leverage the next school to use it
against this school to get what it is that you want.
But I think it's even worse now.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Well because there's so many like there's obviously if you
compare it to the NFL, you know, and this is
where like the economics start to play a factor. Right,
So the NFL generates about ten billion annually from its
TV media rights deal. The big ten I believe is
the most expensive as of now that they generate about
over a billion, So there's a ten time difference between
(34:18):
the two. So NFL teams can largely move on from
a staff because it's not just the head coach. You know,
you're signing up your coordinators to these handsome deals too,
But they can move on from them and kind of
start over because they are generating so much revenue, not
just when the TV media rights deal, but just to
give it a comparison, you know, for and by the way,
like think about the difference in well, they play seventeen games,
(34:40):
so they're getting eight or nine home games a year.
Right with college football you're hopefully getting that maybe with
a playoff game, but you know, usually it's not that
many home games, so you're not getting as much ticket
sales as concessions all that. You know, these schools aren't
making quite as much from their TV media rights deal.
Whatever the revenue share break that is for the big
(35:00):
ten for each team, you can do the math on that,
or you know, Notre Dame is a good example because
it's the only team and I think they're getting a
little over a fifty some million a year for NBC
and then they get partial rev share from the acc.
So when you talk about like stroking a check for
fifty some million, and that's just the head coach, that's not.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
The coordinators too.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
Now, granted they're not quite to that extent. Like but
for example, Penn State, Knowles wasn't cheap, gold wasn't cheap.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yes, not at all.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
You start looking at the numbers they add up and
you go, all right, how are we going to do this?
Like are we able to tap into the endowment? Now
that might be a conversation for down the road, but
you know, typically endowed funds they've got a general purpose.
You know, there is or I should say general, there's
a specific purpose, and so those funds have to be
(35:48):
allocated towards you know where those funds were designated.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Now, now again.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
There's some gray area there, and somebody who's smarter than
I am would would tell you how that works. But
you know, there's the problem trying to point out as
the business model.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
College schools aren't equipped yet to be able to handle
the turnover that we're seeing. And that's why I keep
going back to it's not that the school probably doesn't
want to be in this position. It's the donors and
the alums, like they're the ones with the money where
the school just says, okay, you want, I'm gone write
to check, like like help us out then, because otherwise
(36:24):
we're in a really, really tough spot and they'll just
threaten and say, well I'm not going to donate that.
It's like, well, okay, but then we can't move on
from them.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
So we're gonna be in the same position every year
until you do something. You get a group of people
want to do something to be the difference. I mean,
there's some wild conversations that are happening right now behind
the scenes.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, creating a lot of opportunities for business people too,
I mean, especially like former students and stuff like that
that have always dreamed about being a part of the
program at a higher level. Like a lot a lot
of those dudes was his name Shapiro as is name,
the guy, the guy that was out of Miami, Devan Shapiro,
(37:04):
like those, There's going to be a lot of them
popping up a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
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Speaker 6 (37:29):
All right, all right, So Sunday morning, I walk out
into the garage and I was doing some stuff, and
I noticed there's a gigantic hole I shouldn't say gigantic,
but about the size of a bowling ball hole in
the drywall down where some electrical wiring comes into the
house for some exterior lights.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
And it's chewed through.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, this has to be
some sort of rodent mouse. But I was like, man,
my mouse is already chewed through like wires like that, So.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I think it like a rat.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
And as I'm looking around more and more, I'm like,
all right, I'm looking at what it got into.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
And so I'm sorting of say, okay, I.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Need to clear out the garage see if whatever's got
in is still here.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Now obviously, how did it get there?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Well, my wife likes to leave the garage door open
for like hours upon hours at times of the year
where it's not smart, so that's most likely the culper
because there's no like hole in the exterior or something.
So as I'm clearing this stuff out. I see this
little furry fellow, and he's not really that little. I'm
looking underneath and I still to this day do not
(38:36):
know if it's a beaver or a gopher.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
But because it's got a kind of great hair, it's
definitely not a groundhog. I know that. I know that.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
But what I ended up trying to flush it out
to one side of the garage to then push it
out this one garage door. Well what darted back towards
my wife as she's watching this, and instead of like
trying to stand her ground, like shoot it a certain direction,
she runs to run behind her car that's parked in
the garage. So what does it do? It runs up
(39:08):
underneath and crawls up up up under there. So then
she looks at.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Me, she's like, well, what do I do?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I go, well, back it out of the garage, like
I'm not I don't want that to sit in here.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
So then it was like we're trying to spray it
and see if it came down she drove it around.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
I don't even know it could still be up underneath
the carle we have no idea.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh wow, yeah, that's an ir for certain A car
might be on IR at someone your car's got beaver.
That road in is going beyond IR big cats the
right wire in there, that is do it, folks.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Nice beaver dang.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
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Speaker 2 (40:00):
The uh Baltimore Ravens saved their season yesterday with that win,
because it kind of feels for a.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Week, right, I mean, that was a super big, big
game for them, and and that was it was not
looking good knowing that Lamar Jackson wasn't going to play.
You know, I don't know how much confidence you know,
one would have in the ability to win a game
(40:29):
of this magnitude not having your your star quarterback in
so but it was a big win because they bought
themselves some time. And look the Beers, honestly, they're they're
not a bad team like they they look pretty pretty decent.
Like they were competitive. So I mean, I'm chunks.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Caleb Williams has gotten worse like as the season's gone on,
and and people will go, well, whatever the Cowboys game,
everybody throws for record yards against the Cowboys or defense.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Their defense is so bad.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It's bad.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
They're so bad at Dallas. It's awful.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
I mean, I don't know how you don't make a
change at some point soon.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
M I don't know, but I do believe that the
Ravens they're they're far from out of the woods.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
I thought I was going to get away with one
because we were we were working under the impression that
Lamar Jackson was going to be available because it was
trending that way. And you know, he uh practiced as
a full participant on Friday, and then afterwards retroactively the
Ravens listed him as limited the following day.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
They looked at the beers, they were like, you know what,
we could get through this one with snoop snoop.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
So come on, gonna do it. Who who messed up?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Though?
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Was the training staff? Was it the head coat? I mean,
who messed up on this one?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
John Harbaugh spoke about the quote unquote mix up after
the game yesterday.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
As a coach, what you do is you you ask,
you might you know, how is he doing?
Speaker 5 (42:12):
That's about as much as you do.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
How are we doing? And what do you think and
then you get the guys ready that are going to play.
Then when the guys come back to practice, you put
them in there, you practice, And that's how it works.
On the coaching side, coaches aren't involved with you know,
statuses and whether guys play or not.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
That's not a coaching decision.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I mean they don't have any say or any in
but on what's going on or how that whole thing
lays out. I know he's coming. I know they've got
a short week because they're playing the Dolphins this week,
and so I could understand the idea that, well, look
it's a short week, you know, why rush him back here?
You know haven't written. But there's seasons on the line
with every game. And I just wonder how many people there,
(42:51):
like maybe Lamar was like, no, I'm not ready, and
they thought he was. And so he's just going to
focus on Miami this short week as opposed to play
the Bear.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Seemingly he could take another week to get healthier. I mean,
you don't want to risk it, and like you could
brag about being a good enough team where you can't
you don't have to play your start quarterback. I mean,
they're they're at two wins. It's all hands on deck
at this point.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
They're for sure gonna get fined, like the organization's gonna
get fined.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
Well, they should get fined. I mean, it's not that complicated.
Either he was a full participant or he wasn't. Coming
from someone who fully expected Lamar Jackson to play, I
was shocked, and I'm like, dude, this almost I mean,
this usually doesn't happen in the NFL. There's rare instances
when it does, or maybe there's a setback or something.
(43:44):
This they just try to be like, oh yeah, sorry,
are bad.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
It's bush league, man.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Well there's a lot of people, there's a lot of
people out there, like Jonas Knox who that might have
persuaded their bet to take the Chicago.
Speaker 5 (43:58):
Bears for some reason.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Sure why, Like that's sitting at six and a half
after that news came out and the line dropped, and
I'm thinking, man, at time of the pick, like we
got it at six and a half and then it
didn't matter.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
It just didn't matter. Is that just just the Bears
aren't good? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
They can't throw the ball the job? I say, their
defense is pretty dang good. Man, they're aggressive. I thought
I thought there were a lot of calls that went
against them, you know, and in that game, but I mean,
I thought they were pretty competitive. I don't. I don't
believe the score is indicative of what this Bears team is.
(44:36):
And I think that if they were to correct some
of the things that they're defishing. In with with Williams,
I think they're like they're a team that can win,
like I do. I think they're a team that is
actually possibly developing into a team that can win, like
I Maybe you didn't like it the way uh, you know,
(44:57):
Caleb Williams looked, but I didn't think the team looked
look bad at all. And they listen, I know Lamar
Jackson wasn't in the game, but I thought they played
played fairly well.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
So they beat the Raiders on a block kick, they
beat the Commanders because they were just giving away the football,
and then they beat the Saints and offensively they were
not good in that game.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Like that's just and the Cowboys stink. I don't.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't know, I don't see it like and listen,
I would love to look at this and go, oh,
you know, they're gonna be a wild card teams. I'm
pretty sure I had them as a wildcard team with
our picks, which is embarrassing upon further but I just
it doesn't It doesn't look like Caleb Williams is getting better.
(45:45):
It looks like it's either stagnant or maybe a little
bit worse as the season goes on.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I think that's harsh
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