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kind of a wild I don't know. Forty eight hours
twenty four to forty eight hours for the Dallas Cowboys,
(01:30):
Jerry Jones is talking about, you know, wheeling and dealing
and wanting to make trades. They go out on Monday
Night Football and get blasted by the Cardinals and a
backup quarterback Dak Prescott's frustrated. Afterwards, Troy Aikman's airing out
the team on the broadcast. Then it comes out today
that the short time ago, the Cowboys actually did make
(01:51):
a deal. They've acquired Logan Wilson from the Cincinnati Angles.
So there's Logan Wilson probably looking around and going can
I just go to a good defense?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is that possible? He goes from the worst defense in
Cincinnati to maybe the other worst defense in the league,
styles Cowboys. So there's that, And then there was also
this fun little exchange that took place. Jerry Jones was
talking with Steven A. Smith on Sirius XM, and he
(02:24):
was there alongside Michael Irvin and DeMarcus Ware, and you know,
he just sort of asked about, you know, what sort
of traits he looked for in players that he wanted
to give big contracts to, while those two guys were
sitting next to him, and it sounded like this, Not.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
One time, not even in the hottest of days in
two days in August in Texas, between eleven in the
morning or when they quit practicing or four in the afternoon,
did I never see any one of these two go
(03:03):
over and lay on a damn training table in front
of a million people.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Never.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's not in their makeup. They know, they's just not
in their makeup. And you'd like to think, if you're
gonna be pay the highest that's ever been paid for
something that in football.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And that's what you want, and that's what you want,
and what year is talking When you.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Don't don't have it and you pay the highest that's
ever been in football, you really got a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I agree with them, I mean, I think those are
all those are all valid points. I don't know how
I'd feel about giving that sort of money out to
a guy who's gonna lay down like that, IQ, that's
for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well why do I have to go ahead? This is
this is you.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
You were right in the middle of this whole debaca
before the season, So.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I mean I just got to say that is throwing
a well he's not strong enough to pick up a boulder.
That's that is throwing a rock that he can manage
through a glass a glass house. Like you have a player,
(04:18):
and I'm not going to try to I'm not I
don't want to put down a player to build another
one up. I'm just saying, like, don't be that guy
that makes it so easy to rebuttal as a nine comment,
It's like, Okay, you're saying that, So you rather him
have a house where he goes and and snorts cocaine
(04:41):
and you know, has has women over there and stuff
like that, Like you got the White House, Like you
rather have guys that are you know, doing other things
and and oh you're commenting on it, like you're actually
chiming in with the owner to say, that's right what
Jerry's talking about. Like, look her, Mike Irvin is one
(05:02):
of the greatest to ever do it, one of the
greatest to ever do it. But Did he have his
issues off the field?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Almost killed a teammate with scissors?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Did he have his issues off the field?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
The story, Yeah, he's getting the guy's getting his hair
his haircut and and Michael Irvin told the guy to
get up out of his chair and the guy was
like no. And it was like some lineman, did you
have and did you have?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Did you have a player on your roster that that
was paid handsomely to be on your roster that used
to not only lay on the table in the training room,
but sit on the table in the training room and
pleasure himself. Like, stop, stop with the madness. Bro Hey, Jerry,
(05:48):
just stop, he's gone. You didn't pay him, Like that's fine,
just move on from it here.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How do how do we know Charles Haley was playing
with him?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
So I didn't say no, James, I'm just telling you
what what I'm just telling you, like, all I know
is don't act like you didn't have some high profile
players that had some Hey, even Prime had his moments.
Everybody had moments like stop when there's receipts that are
(06:18):
out there.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Not one time that I ever had what it might
name one time you've heard of Michael Parsons in Dallas
getting into any legal trouble name one time. You can't
the dude don't get in trouble, Like I mean, there
was what happened at Penn State. But that's that's a
whole other conversation. I mean, if you know, if you
(06:43):
know the context of it, it's a little like that's wild,
that's wild. But Michael Parsons doesn't do anything to devalue
the brand. In fact, he's brought value. He brought prestige
more to it by being one of the best football
players right out of college, integrating into the league and
(07:04):
having great success at what he does. I saw another
article that just came out where they're, oh, he's below
average as a run stopper. Da da da, Like now
you can see why Jerry Jones didn't pay him the money.
Like cut that ass out man, Like like we just
talked about lazy reporting earlier. Like you guys played the hits.
Like that's like, be better, be better, Jerry, the dude
(07:29):
you're sitting next to talking crap on another player that
played for your team. He got in trouble from time
to time, Like stop acting like, oh well this was
such a low character guy. And what type of guy
is Michael Parsons to lay it lay on in front
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of millions of people and da da da da. Isn't
that man? Look here, bruh? What type of owner doesn't
pay one of the best defensive players that's still on
his rookie contract that's having numbers comparable to Reggie White
and Lawrence Taylor. You you you you you are, that's you.
(08:13):
So Like, if you want to focus in on what
I never never never, you you close to not never
have won winning a Super Bowl? Like, get closer to that,
cause you ain't done that since you had Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Took your teammate to get you to a Super Bowl player.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
I'm still trying to catch up with all the shenanigans
you were referring to in the Dallas Cowboys training room,
locker room, whatever the heck was going on?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What did I miss there? You recap that varg just
theired out.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So Jeff Pearlman wrote a book about the Cowboys and
in one of the details he found was and they
kept this stuff quiet so much so that Darren Woodson
actually like asked Jeff Parrol, like, where did you find
how did you find out about that. Nobody was supposed
to find out about it. And I guess the story
(09:06):
was that they were in line to get their haircut
and they had brought in a barber to cut their
hair and there was a lineman that was in the
chair getting his haircut and Michael Irvin told the guy
to get up out of his chair. The guy said no.
All the other linemen were kind of egging it on
and egging it on because Michael Irvin was one of
(09:29):
the stars of the team. He thought he could punk
this guy and the guy stood his ground. Michael Irvin
didn't like that. He got pissed off. There was an
altercation and Michael Clervin picked up the scissors off the
ground and cut the guy and I think he got
him in the neck if I'm not mistaken, if I
remember correctly, And they had to like cover it up
and they paid the guy off, and there was all
sorts like there's been a lot with Michael Irvin. So
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that's the first thing I thought was Jerry Jones using
that as the example of the model player you want
to build your organization around, and you know, sort of
condemning Michael Parsons because he laid on a training table.
It's just it's preposterous.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
It's ridiculous, hilarious because not only did you lay on
the table, you alleviated your stress while you was on
the table. And maybe you weren't in front of millions,
but you were in front of enough people.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, Charles Haley, that was also something else to where
he would just uh, you know what, it was batting practice.
It was batting practice. He was at about about a swing.
There's been some weird guys in Dallas. Didn't Greg Hardy
also play there?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well, yes, yeah, But I was just trying to name
big money contract guys. Charles Haley got a nice contract,
you know. Mike Irving, that's you directly compared to. You
compare them to Michael Irving and what Michael Irving did,
and then you did? Who else? DeMarcus DeMarcus Ware like
shots out, loved DeMarcus Wear, But what are he doing
(10:59):
the league? What are you doing? Elite?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Isn't the Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
The Marcus Ware is a Hall of Famous, not the
defensive end or the defensive tackles wear. I'm thinking of
the other one. Who's extra Lawrence, No, who's the one
that's on ESPN. Oh, that's Spears, the market Spears, isn't
it market Spears? Yeah? I get I get mixed up,
(11:25):
all right.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
The Marcus Marcus Spears were Andrea.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Ware, which one was with him? The Marcus Ware was
Marcus Spears. It was not Andre Ware, right, it was
Marcus Spears, right, it was not the Marcus Ware.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What do you try to say?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
They all say, no, I'm just saying the names is
the names run together a little bit. It's the guy
from ESPN that was doing it though, right, Marcus Ware
was doing the interview with with Jerry Jones. The Marcus Ware,
the Hall of Fame, the Marcus Ware, It wasn't Marcus Spears. Yes, okay,
all right, the Hall of Famer, the Hall, Well, that's different.
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That's that's a different conversation. And he is and he
is a model that is a model person, that is
a model citizen. But and and and maybe you balance
it out, and you even it out because you have
the credibility of a clean cut guy like him that's
representing your interests. But I heard Mike Irvin dropping in.
I heard Mike Irvin chiming then while Jerry Jones was talking,
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and he is the wrong beacon of truth for you
to be standing on that type of business in that moment.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No shade to my o G.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I'm telling you I love Mike and we I love
Mike Irving, but don't take swipes at Micah for for
whatever swipe you're doing it for. At the cost of
saying that's a line like that with Mike Irvin sitting there,
Mike should have told him, like, don't do that. Jerry.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
He hung out with a hooker from time to time.
Big deal. I mean, who has it at some point
in their life.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well, that's a lot of is Jerry want? I feel
like Jerry really just wants one thing. You know, he
wants to shit skits, get his butt checked out.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
What do you want? No, I thought he might want
to do. We don't have one right now? All right, Okay,
we have a drop that we There you go.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That's that's all he wants. That's not too much at Okay,
just a little bit about Mexico.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I I wonder if we're just kind of at the
point with with Jerry where it's like he losing it.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
First off, I told you all he's segued into being
that crazy grandpa where you just go, you know grandpa.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And today I don't say anything.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Just give him a hug, you know, try to make
sure he does a choke on his food and like
like old chopper, you know, just just you know.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Just take it with a grain of salt, you know.
I mean, he's the type that that would use the
he ain't gonna call He's not gonna call you a
black person. He gonna call you the other, the one
that what one all of them in a crayon box.
He's gonna be like, listen, I've never played one of those,
(14:11):
all them in the crayon box. Types of people that
would lay down on a training table in front of
millions of people. They'd be like Granddad, crazy Granddad. Granddad
just said in the crayon I was saying it so
(14:31):
bad too. I want to say it, but if I
if I come off to it way wrong, it might
go over way wrong. But I mean I'm old enough, listen,
I'm old enough where I had a coach that used
it as a normal term. It was like normal for
him to say, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Remember when I.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Was I was back in Brooklyn and.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I was walking to school and across the street I
saw some of the folks.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
I can't say it. I don't know. It just feels
funny if I say. You say it, God, you say it.
You know what. I'm sorry to color? Yeah, there you go.
What's war with that? D? D?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, I'm black's past color.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's what that one can go over? Way wrong. Bro,
you I didn't know that. You can't really joke. You
can't really be joking about certain terms. Man, Like you
got some old cats like, man, I remember some of
my some of my colored friends.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What did you just say?
Speaker 6 (15:46):
You do know?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You do know? This is the late nineties, like nineteen
ninety five, ninety eight, ninety nine, like, yeah, but we're
all a color if you think about it, that's what
they said. Well, I don't know. I mean, we're all
definitely darker than Jonas. I know that we're all in
the crayon box.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
There's different sheds, and uh, I'm on the light side
and we are all in the crayon box.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
That's for certain. You always got a wonder bed. That's that. Granddad,
though I could guarantee Jerry Jones Is said that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I can guarantee it and that's not a slur.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
That is not a slur. That's not a racial ship,
but it is. It is one of the most it's
one of the worst. It's one of the weirdest terminologies
that you could have, is what I would say.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So are you are you saying that you would be?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Never?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I never played a color that that laid down on
That's why I really, that's how I really wanted to
do my bit from the jump. I made this a thing. Really,
I've never seen a color laid down on a on
a on a training table and I paid them a
big large sum of money because that's just not what
good colors do. Like, that's what he wanted to say. Sorry,
(16:59):
So I said it. That's that's I said it. Yeah,
I said it. There you there you go, there you go,
said man, all right, that's out there. I can't pull
it back two pages out.
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We go to our man. Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL
(18:45):
Dean College Football rules Analyst. Now you're doing d You
can get them on X if you dare at Dean Blandino, Dean, Dean,
what's happening now you're doing?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Dean? How you guys going?
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Now?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Your mother? Dan?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Hey, don't talk about my mother? Why?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Why is that always part of the greeting, like, hey,
how's your mother? How's your mom?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Makes me pillow? Will Spith and not the guy that
hit the game winning home run in the World Series.
You have a night either not that Will Smith?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Right, Yeah, keep my mama's name out till mouth.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Dean. Was there?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Was there anything from this weekend NFL or college? Uh
that that sort of irked you? Maybe a play or
a call or.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
A rule they went one way or the.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Other that you look at and go, uh not not
a big fan of that anything. Jump out to you.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Well, Brady's back right, I'm here, brother, Thank you. We
missed you last week. Miss you know you you you
were there. I believe, I mean I saw you like
bullying on the broadcast.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
That's you know, everyone everyone who takes that approach I
think didn't understand it. Was all trying to distract Rob
so you wouldn't see Mark in the background.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Got it, got it, got it?
Speaker 5 (20:12):
He gets very he he always wants like pass the
buck to market. It's like, now we gotta let Mark
do his thing and you just be a professional and
do your job. But like then Rob gets you know,
he just stops what he's doing and he does just
like get the camera to look at Mark. It's like,
it's funnier if you just do your job and then
let Mark dance in the background.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
And then Mark. Yeah, no, I get it. I get Rob.
Robs used to doing like big events, like Rob does bowling.
Like Rob doesn't like that's you.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You know, God, do you really want me to get
Let me get off on a quick tangent here on
that on that moment. So he comes down to South
Florida to do an event. I think it was up there,
like del It was up in del Rey or Boker somewhere.
And he goes, oh, you should bring the family. I said, okay,
So we make signs. You know, we got ham Bone,
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Rob Stone and who do you think you are? I am,
like we have all these like for Pete and Pete Webber,
we have all these signs and we get there and
our girls are excited. They're like yelling and stuff, and
everyone kept having to call them to keep being quiet.
Apparently it's like golf, like they don't like people yelling
while they're bowling. And in fact, we were down more
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towards like the middle to end of the lane, and
we were holding the signs up because but because the lighting,
Apparently one of the bowlers thought there was like a glare,
so they walked over to our family by like, can
you please tell your kids to put the signs down.
So at this point, I'm like, why did Rob invite
us to this? Like it's not a family friendly event.
They don't want us to hold signs up for him,
for any of the player. Like the whole thing was
(21:42):
a disaster. So that was my rob Stone Bowling Store.
I'll never go back to another bowling event again after that.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I didn't realize that that bowlers were that like, because
you know, my my brother bowls. He's a big bowler.
And keep bulled at two ninety eight one time and
threw eleven strikes down brow and the whole bowling alley
stopped because it obviously hit the twelve one year Bowl
three hundred game and he got an eighty and it
was like, and this is in Long Island, like you know,
(22:08):
remember the Ryder Cup, Like those are my people, Like
we just everybody was heckling and screaming, and so I
didn't realize bowling was was that that type of that
type of the dean.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I actually did the opposite. I did eight and a
spare and then eleven straight strikes for a two ninety.
I swear to god, Yeah true story. Yeah, never count
close again.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I love Yeah Caleb. The Caleb downs play right, Like.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That's targeting.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
It's targeting. And this is where we've kind of like
sometimes it's it's it's frustrating for me because I work
with the college and the replay officials and all that,
and I think sometimes we go overboard and making something
that isn't targeting targeting, Like you know, the running back
and the linebacker and they meet in the hole and
(22:55):
they both lower their heads and then we end up
throwing the linebacker out because he dropped this had but
this is like everybody in the world down leaves his feet,
he launches, it's borderline late. He hits him in the
head neck area. And it's like, we're finding a way
to make that not targeting. And that was one where
if he if you want to put that in a
in a textbook for what is targeting, what it looks
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like that was it and that should have been should
have been confirmed.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
What I found interesting about is I looked at it,
I thought, oh, that's that's targeting. He's gonna be ejected.
I'll miss the first half of next week's game. And
then they took it off, but they kept the penalty,
and Clatt's like advocating for this, well you know the
intent and all the stuff, and I'm like, dude, he
was defenseless like that, that's not like subjective in this
case with the circumstances of that particular play. But he
(23:43):
kind of applauded it, and I thought, like, this is
not the right direction.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
We're not that's not the play. And I agree with
Joel on there are plays where, because of circumstances, it
should be fifteen and not an ejection.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Right, that was not one. That was not one.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
He was wrong and I don't know why he supported that,
But again he'll be calling in some more hot stake
Gammes later on.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Maybe that's something to do with it.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
You know what's funny is this segment has become one
in which we now get people who reach out via
social media with questions. And I think one of the
questions and one of the frustrations for NFL fans Dean,
is like, what is.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
A hip drop tackle?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Because we feel like there's a loose interpretation, that's a
ridiculous call. Well, but again, like, could you help us
define it, help us understand what the officials are singing,
how you guys go about looking for that?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Yeah, well, it's the definition of a hip drop tackle
is you you wrap up the ball carrier, you leave
your feet, you basically drop. In the rule book it
says unweight, which is like, I don't know, that's just stupid.
It's just you drop to the ground and you land
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on the legs or trap the legs of the runner.
Like that's that's the hip drop. And we've seen, you know,
we've seen some pretty you know, I think it was
I don't know if it was now going on on
on three years. It was in the playoff game the
running Backs of the Cowboys. He broke his leg, pollared
you know that that was you know, it's a dangerous one.
(25:15):
It's when it is an egregious flagrant one it it
can lead to pretty significant injuries. But this, this Frankie
Lulu thing was like crazy because I saw last night
somebody texting me, Hey, they suspended Frankie Lou. What did
he do? It was the repeated violations of the hip drop.
And then I watched the play from Frosty game Sunday night,
(25:37):
I'm like, what what like that? That's not like he's
momentums taking him like he's just trying to make a tackle.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
It happens so fast too, bro the angle, the angle
of which he came to make contact. If he lets
go so he doesn't hip hip drop, he misses the tackle,
it'll go down as a mistackle. But if he makes
the tackle, now labeled it a hip drop, like, it
doesn't necessarily make it a hip drop because his momentum
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was going forward. He makes contact with the shoulder pads.
If you're pulling the guy down by his shoulder pads, crazy,
You're supposed like you try not hip draw or dropping
your your level. It's like cow steer bulldogging, right, like
you gotta drop your weight, you gotta like, have you
seen what these guys squat, like, did you see what
(26:29):
Saquan squads? You have? You seen Derrick Henry's stiff arms
and the things he does in the weight room in
the offseason. Tell me, please explain to me how Lulu
gets a guy down if he's thinking about, oh, you
can't hip drop or you gotta fall a certain type
of way when you make contact with Sakwon Barkley or
Derrick Henry or any of these guys out, How does
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that work? How does that work?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
It doesn't work. And in this rule they put in,
and this is health and safety, you know, the health
and safety people at the NFL. And look, that's important,
we get it. It's it's it's it's really important. You
want to protect the players from unnecessary risk. But this
to me is like, this isn't This isn't Roy Williams
back in the day with the horse. It was intentional.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
It was I'm going to grab your collar and I'm
going to drop and I'm going to you know, and
and this is just trying to make a play and
that I mean it's to have a suspension and this
does not get caught.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
This has been called twice all year because it's such
a hard play to officiate. So they told the officials,
you know, you better be a thousand per cent sure
to throw a flag. And the two times they've thrown it,
it's like, you know, is that a foul? Is that
not a foul? So they're just strictly doing it during
the week on on tape. And you've got you've got
the health and safety people, you have the compliance people.
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John Runyon, you know he used to play for the Eagles.
I know LeVar, you know he I loved John, but.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Nasty, so he wasn't him.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Back in the day. So it's it's you know, it's hard.
I get it in terms of they want to protect
the players, but that's a tough one when you see
that and you say, Okay, he had a couple of others,
now we're suspending him. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think it's crazy to say we're protecting the players.
Here's two reasons why. One I gotta keep I gotta
keep pulling this one out and keep getting clarity on it.
And then the second one is what it is the
chip block. You are a defenseless defender. YEP. When a
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guy hides behind someone, he hides behind somebody and and
and comes out and hits you. That is a defenseless defender.
No different then Okay, I know if I'm going across
the middle and I have to catch the ball, I
know I'm going to get hit eventually. If I'm pass
rushing and I'm a good pass rusher, I know that
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there's probably going to be somebody who tries to block
me along with this guy eventually. But if I cannot
see you and I am engaged with someone else trying
to get around someone else, you have to buy rules
say it's the same exact thing. He is a defenseless defender,
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and then another thing, the second one that I'm seeing.
I'm sorry I'm speaking with so much passion because I'm
sitting here seeing guys get yoked up, jacked up, and
we're talking about player safety. It's the tight end crack,
the tight end crack like he is not detectable. And
if he is actually cracking down on a pass rusher
from a blitz, I mean from a shift or from
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a motion that is a defenseless defender. How is a
tight end able to crack a guy on the line
of scrimmage if we're talking about player safety, if he's
getting up the field, then he should at least you
should at least have a rule that says the defender
must be able to see you before you make contact
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with him. I mean, isn't that kind of the courtesy
that we're giving receivers no question?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
And look on the chip block and that's like, that's
a version of a blind side block. You don't you
know you could talk about Okay, you know there are
rules you could put in and say, if I'm engaged,
we know a chop block, right, if I'm engaged high,
you can't go low. Well, if I'm engaged and my
focus is on the guy in front of block and
somebody just ear holds me from the side, that that
should be a foul. That should be a whether it's
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a it's a version of a chop block, or you
have the blindside block rule already, and you know they
did look at this a couple of years ago. They
try to outlaw that that you know, that whatever you
want to call it, the wham block whatever. And if
you're going outside in like if I'm flax and I'm
a receiver and I'm outside the two yards at least
two yards outside the tackle, and I come outside in
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I can't go low. If I'm in motion going back
toward the ball, I can't go low. But if I'm
part if I'm if I'm the tight end and I'm
part of that, I'm part of that interior, I can
come across and I can go low. Or if I
cross the center, I can go low. So and like
you said, for those who are going to be the
defensive player can't see it, and then that could lead
to injuries. So I know they looked at that. And
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actually when I think it was the Jets, and that
was in a Robert solo that was a big thing
for him when he was with the Jets. They proposed it.
It didn't get a lot of traction. But I agree
with you when we're talking about player safety, don't seem
like things that are more, you know as an intentional block,
where this loving thing, he's just he's making a tackle
and the bodies just go that way as they go
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to the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Dean
watching the Bengals Bears game. There was a moment and
I don't know when this rule changed. I think, you know,
Adam Archiletta and Sparrodidas were also kind of confused by
it as well too. But andre Yosi Vosh caught the
ball for a touchdown on what was thought to be
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a touchdown, but it was ruled that he stepped out
of bounds and he was the first player to touch
the ball after coming back in bounds. I was always
under the impression that that was a penalty. Apparently it's
just an income complete pass. They just ruled an incomplete
pass and they picked the flag up. What is the
rule there? And did that change recently? And maybe we
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just didn't know about it.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
So the rule is if the receiver goes out of bounds,
either on their own or through legal contact, they can't
they can't come back inbounds and be the first to
touch and become You become back inbounds when you re
establish with both feet. So he goes out of bounds,
then he gets both feet back inbounds and he touches it,
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that's a foul. If he doesn't re establish and he
touches it, it's just an incomplete pass. So that's what
they ruled that he did. He didn't re establish with
both feet before the ball was touched, and they they
just picked up the flag made it an incomplete pass
versus versus the penalty when you actually touch it after
getting both feetback in interesting.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
One more thing from that game, Dean. Have you ever
seen a challenge where team is hoping it a touch
results in the oppony getting it? Is that the first
time we've ever seen that in a coach's challenge.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
It's happened before. It's happened before, and it's it's when
kind of like, oh my god, not not in a while,
it's I remember play. Oh man, this is going back
where it was. It was both it was it was
the Steelers and the Ravens, I want to say, and
it was a it was a it was a catch
rule to catch at the goal line, and they rule
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to catch. Forget. It was on defense. The defense wanted
to challenge that it was incomplete. The offense wanted to
challenge that it was a touchdown, and so the defense
ends up challenging that it's incomplete and they end up saying, no,
it's a catch, and guess what, it's a touchdown. So
it's one of those It's one of those deals where
it's like, Okay, coach, I got some good news and
I got some bad news, like what do you want? Like,
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you want it? You want the challenge, but.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Is that to you in your position or just having
knowledge of all this kind of on the guy up
in the booth or the box, who's got that TV
that he's looking at, who's should be giving his head
coach better, better instruction and direction at that point? Is
that who it falls on?
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Yeah? Yeah, And those guys they have a tough job
because you know, there the coach has got you know,
they want that information right away. They've got they've got
a video, they've got a video screen, and they've got angles.
They can't really control any of the angles, but they're
watching what the replayed booth is queuing up. And yeah,
that's on that person to say, okay, we you know,
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we don't want to challenge this because this this could
end up going the other way and this would be
this would be obviously a bad deal. And that's that's
what happened. But those guys have a tough job because
it's so you don't have a ton of time to
make those decisions.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Dean, where are you at this weekend? You got a
go on on the we were well.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
We were supposed to be this little little background of
on on how the scheduling works. We were supposed to
be in Washington for Detroit to the Lions and the Commanders,
but the Commanders have lost everybody and so now we're
we're switched to what we think is going to be
hopefully a better game the we're doing Seattle at the
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at the Niners.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Wow, Yeah, it should be a good game.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah yeah, Joys and Dean always fun Fox Sports College
Football Rules.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Rams at the Niners. I got my weeks next Rams
at the Niners.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, okay, yeah, still good game, good battle.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Somebody at the Niners. Somebody at the Niners could be
could be the Jaguars, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
We have fun the side of the Super Bowl, so
you know, have fun up there.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Dean.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
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Out what's left Ton's incredible.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Here's the leftover all right, fancy pants, fully.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
To be back.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Let's open this fridge wide open and get those leftovers
out today yesterday, technically, I learned something a little strange
about Charles Barkley thanks to the Manning Brothers.
Speaker 11 (37:10):
Let's give it a listen, Chuck, Chuck, we're pretty serious
journalists on this show. So I have a hard hitting question.
I need to get your answer. All I was doing
research for tonight and Chuck, is it true and you
burned all of your underwear almost twenty years ago and
haven't worn any sex.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (37:28):
I realized that underwear would they were not a necessity,
so I had a it was a big fire tooth Peyton,
So I'm always going Commanche is the commanche Commando, Commandando.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I've burnt Commando, I burned.
Speaker 12 (37:43):
I burned all my underwear about thirty years ago. I
could say it was a big fire. So I'm always
going to Mando for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
That's interesting. I did not need to know that.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I know it made for a great story, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
I just want to picture Charles Barkley and close, yeah
and closed, and not ever think about what's underneath.
Speaker 9 (38:09):
Yeah, now, but it did bring me to think.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
What did it bring you to think about?
Speaker 9 (38:13):
Trust me as former players?
Speaker 10 (38:16):
With your pants being so tight, I mean I feel
like I wouldn't want to be that constricted either.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
I might burn all mine too if that were.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
What was to say that you're constricted? Yes? Good, I
mean what you're making.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
I am making assumptions.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
There's hotline what you're looking to accomplish out of the segment.
There are hotlines for that.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
I don't know what you're talking about, Brady.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
Alright, my next story.
Speaker 10 (38:40):
I actually saw this one last week and I was
really excited because when she fell, it absolutely scared me.
I don't know if you know this acrobat artist. She
actually performs at a lot of NBA halftime shows. Red Panda,
Oh yeah, she felt. Yeah, she fell from seven feet
high back in July, and she's officially coming back to perform.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
That happen?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
What happened to it? Did they report the injuries?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (39:04):
She literally fell off her seven foot unicycle while doing
her patented act and the injury required a lengthy surgical
procedure and signlined her for the rest of the w
NBA season.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Don't you have to be able to get down off
of a seven foot unicycle.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Yeah no, but she like slipped.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I heard you. I heard she wasn't even injured. She
just didn't want to watch any more w NBA games.
What that's what I heard.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
This again?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Let me just fall on back, damn ACL, Let me
just fall him back out of a bitch. Just ACL
just doesn't seem right anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I mean, who can debut you to fall from a
seven foot You just reminds.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Me of the time when Jonas just looking at just
look at his kneehouse.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yes, exact same.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Thing, except pop back in and hit the shot afterwards.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I mean, the only difference was Jonas was jumping up
in and falling down from a ten foot rim, you know,
because he was dunking. And that's right, you know, right, Yeah,
that's how you blew his knee. I did win that. Yeah,
I had them hops.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
I hope that was on camera.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Okay, now it was Red Bunny. Glad you're back, Red Bunny.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
I do have one more for you.
Speaker 10 (40:12):
The highly anticipated anticipated fight between Jake Paul and Javonta
Davis has officially been canceled.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Of course, it has because Gervante was going to beat
the living hell out of out of him.
Speaker 10 (40:24):
To find something else to watch.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, that was like, that was a bad look because
that would have been his first fight and he would
have had to accept that he got his ass tore
out the frame by Jervonte, also tore out the frame.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
DeVante might have been roughing up, you know, somebody else.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well, that's what I'm saying. He knew he wasn't going
to take it easy on him.