Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn react to a surprisingly strong NFL trade deadline, highlighting the Cowboys and Colts taking advantage of a Jets firesale. The guys continue their reactions to the NFL trade deadline and discuss the Cowboys move to acquire Quinnen Williams to shore up their run defenese in the post-Micah Parsons era. FOX College Football Analyst and AM570 LA Sports Host Petros Papadakis joins the guys to discuss the Dodgers going back-to-back and debate if USC can return to prominence.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Joe with LaVar Airings and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knox
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Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're opening song, it just really reveals a lot about
who you are. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
If you know a band that is no Camara, I
don't care not Alvin Kamara, clearly Camara okay from Cleveland, Ohio?
Really yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
How about that? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I don't know how that made it any better? But uh,
you know, all.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right, all right, well, I don't know how this made
anything that much better. We had the NFL trade deadline
yesterday and there were some trades I don't recall a
trade deadline with, you know, maybe notable names going the
way that they went yesterday. But let's start with the
team who just decided, you know what, we'll just have

(01:52):
ourselves a good old fashioned fire sale. And that team
would be the awful New York Jets, who decided to
go ahead and trade cornerback Sauce Gardner to the Colts
in exchange for two first round picks twenty twenty six
and twenty twenty seven first round picks and wide receiver A. D.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
So the two first round picks and ad Mitchell go
back to the Jets, Saucegardner heads to the Colts, and
then they decided we're not done. They also decided to
trade three time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Quinn Williams to
the Cowboys for a second round pick in twenty twenty
six and a first round pick in twenty twenty seven,
along with defensive tackle Mazzie Smith. And there you go.

(02:35):
That's the New York Jets in a nutshell. And this,
by the way, the Sauce Gardner side of things. Right after,
during the offseason, they gave him and Garrett Wilson contract
extensions to keep them there as sort of the foundational
pieces of the franchise and organization.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Gohag you good.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
Well, I was gonna ask you, I mean, doesn't this
kind of Is this a rebuttal to your comments about
Micah Parsons.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is Jerry Jones just throwing us right back in your face?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Far?

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I mean, you're trying.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I think he heard you. He's attacking you, he's going
after Is.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
He coming after me?

Speaker 6 (03:10):
He might have heard us.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean, we are nationally syndicated show. People do listen
to us. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he
did hear us. But I mean that that doesn't to me.
That doesn't change up how I felt about it or
how I feel about it. Like listen, he's trying to
shore up the interior part of his line. He needs
a pass rush. Like I get it. You want to

(03:31):
stop the run, but you also need to be able
to get to the passer. And Quentnin is a fine
football player. He'll improve their their defensive front and it'll
improve their team. I think it's yet another another piece.
Strategically speaking, I can see that that Jerry Jones is

(03:52):
possibly potentially him and Stephen Jones are positioning themselves to
be able to get you know, uh, a pass rusher
out of the draft to go along with a strong interior.
I will say, if you got a dope interior line line,
a very very strong defensive tackle, three techniques, zero techniques,

(04:14):
whatever it is, it definitely makes life easier on on
the ends, on the edges because you you have to
use multiple guys on the interior. I mean, you think
about that Tampa Bay team that had Simeon Rice and
and and guys like that on the defensive line. I
mean you had Booger McFarland Chee Dahn two on the

(04:37):
other side. You but you have Booger McFarland and Warren
Sap on the inside that's two formidable guys, and it
always allowed for them to have that one on one
blocking scheme against them, which you're not going to block
a Simion Rice, you know, by yourself. So maybe that's
the direction that that Jerry Jones is taking himself in

(04:58):
by doing what he's doing. But I like that the
Colts were aggressive on trying to shore up their defense
because they had the type of team that can make
a run. I like, in fact, as crazy as it
may sound, I like that if you're going to declare
that it's a rebuild, then what better way than getting
rid of two of your biggest players, most productive players

(05:22):
on a failing team to get more draft capital to
try to maybe start a rebuild. So I'm I'm not
going to take a negative approach on New York. Maybe
this sparks the beginning of a conversation of a change,
a change in philosophy, a change in how they approach

(05:43):
things as a culture. Maybe this signifies the end of
what was in the beginning of what could be.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Possibly I put it.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
This way, I actually think it's how do I say this?

Speaker 7 (06:03):
I think I like it for the Dallas Cowboys because
it's a good, strong, aggressive, move clearly they know their
defense is struggling. You go up, you get a linebacker,
you trade to get Quinn Williams, You've already tried to
get Kenny Clark. They are a middle of the pack
team in regards to sacks. Just if you look at
the numbers, I think they're seventeenth in the league. You know, however,

(06:25):
they're their pressure percentage is actually higher than that. I
think they're like a top ten team, that's according to
if you're looking at PFF.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
But so I don't know that the idea that they
really need an edge, right I don't think that's the
problem for them.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
I think one of their biggest issues is like teams
are just able to do run throat whatever they want,
and I think that's more of the issue with the
defense right now, is they're allowing everyone to be balanced,
and I think they feel like if they stop the
run or do a better job of doing that, there's
a better chance that then they can actually, you know,
get even more pressure on opposing quarterbacks and more sacks.

(07:03):
So I don't I guess I like the fact that
Jerry's trying like this isn't a Dallas Cowboys team that's
just gonna be a bunch of hot air and talk
like they're making moves, they're trying. You look at the
Colts as you talked about, like the Colts feel like
they're in a window right now. That was a big
time deal when you look at what they've given up,
you know, two first round picks as well as Adie Mitchell,

(07:25):
who to me is a player who's got all the
ability in the world. And so for the Jets, they
get a guy who's got some to prove he's in
a new environment. You could be a nice compliment to
Gara Wilson. I mean, you legitimately could have two studs
if you can get Adie Mitchell mentally to be whereing

(07:46):
he needs to be, Like that's a that's a big
if because obviously this team moved on ever since the
fumble out of the end zone versus the Rams.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Like that's the reality of it.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
That play, that singular play, as incredible of a catch
and run as it was, that ended up being kind
of his last moment with the Colts, and they've been
mentally moving on ever since.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
And this is an example of that.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
So you know, they go get a player in sauce
Gardn who's going to be there for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
As Jonas mentioned, they just paid them.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
They feel like they have a window of right now
where they're trying to go win something in twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven. That's what that signified
to me. So I love the fact that we had
action before the trade deadline. I love the fact that
we've got teams that they're identifying what their weaknesses are,
they're trying to get better, like the Jets, for example,
kind of kicking the candle the future.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
It's not that far down the road to George the future.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
You start looking their draft capital for twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven, they can start making those changes immediately
and we'll we'll see where they stack up. But I
love the fact that we just had action. You know,
this trade dot deadline used to come and go and
we wouldn't have anything going on, and people would just
kind of be like, oh, yeah, it's football. It's really

(09:02):
hard for a player to you know, join the team
and get involved and learn the offense, learn the defense
like that. That was what you still always say, right,
I mean, it's just kind of awesome that now we
get some to talk about after the trade deadline and
teams are being more aggressive.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah. I don't remember one like yesterday to where you
had legitimate, big time names that were on the move.
It's always like trade deadline has always been more of
an NBA, MLB type thing, NHL, the NFL just kind
of other than when Garoppolo was traded to the Niners
years ago. But you know, it's not like he was

(09:37):
starting a bunch of games or anything like that. I
can't recall the last time we had big time names
like this on the move. I just think this proves
you can know the Jets should never be taken seriously
as an organization ever. Like they just in the same offseason,
you told Rogers we don't need you, and you told

(10:01):
Sauce Gardener we do need you, we want you here,
we're gonna pay you, and they're both gone, Like.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So, what was the what was it he didn't need
to have time to evaluate his talent. I mean, I
would think that that's legit, right. You gotta have the
opportunity to evaluate your talent.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Why'd you pay him? Why did you give Sauce Gardener
the contract? If you're just gonna trade him. And I
think Garrett Wilson's a little banged up right now. I
wonder if he wasn't banged up, would they have just
traded him too.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, here's what I started thinking about. When you talk
about a blockbuster deal that delivers that type of draft capital.
You know, Daniel Jones has totally galvanized the QB position
in in Indiana. We have not said the other name

(10:56):
in so long. They need a quarterback in New York.
I'm curious as to why, maybe maybe one of those
first round draft picks, maybe you just give us one
and give us Anthony Richardson. You think that was maybe
possibly on the table. I mean they sent sent away

(11:17):
like a lot of capital.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
He got his face caved in by a workout band.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I don't know that he's actually healthy.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Okay, if you could get maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Then if you could get a first round pick, like
if the Jets gave up a first round pick for
Anthony Ring. No, no, I'm saying they should be relegated.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm saying, instead of getting two first round picks from
the Jets, just take Anthony Richardson in one first round.
He's an ir though from Okay, all right, then that
makes sense because they need they need a QB.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, well they he fractures orbital bone.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
It's it's like, like, I don't some people have a
hard time, you know, saying stuff after coming back from that.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
So hmm, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
I mean, I know, we don't say his name at
Nobody says Anthony Richardson's name anymore, Like it's not even
a afterthought at this point. But he might still could
possibly be a quarterback that could be you know, I mean,
look at Daniel Jones. I wouldn't have thought he would
have been able to go do what he's doing now

(12:21):
after what went down in New York.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I don't disagree with his ability.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
I think the biggest difference between Daniel Jones and I mean,
Daniel Jones played a lot of football, Like, he had
a lot of experience, and he also had a year
where he played really really good football. I mean, he
took a team to the playoffs. So that's never been
the case for Anthony Richardson. I'm not saying that he
can at some point, but there's a lot of maturing

(12:47):
that needs to occur and development that needs to occur
before that's ever going to happen. And the hard thing
about the NFL is they're not waiting for him to mature,
you know, they're not.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
That's not their priority. This is a what can you
do to help me? Now? You know, what have you
done for me lately? League?

Speaker 7 (13:06):
So I again, not not even worth really talking about though,
only because he's he's on I R.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, I just that's what came to mind when
when I heard that they were just they were going
and what came to.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Mind when I watched all this and I was thinking, like, dude,
I can only imagine if you are a player on
that team. And look, I understand that there's the logic of, well, hey,
what you put on tape, that's your resume, but but
I also feel like there's gonna be some times where
there's gonna be players who are like, man, obviously we're
kicking the can down the road, like we've literally can't.

(13:40):
And by the way, I've been a part of teams
that are are you know, two win teams at this
point in time this season, and it is one of
the toughest things to do because you're you are constantly preaching, hope,
constantly preaching to guys about like playing for you know,
your resume, playing for all these things that are, but

(14:01):
you're not playing for a super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
You're not playing for any of that.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
And it gets really, really harder to motivate teams when
they get to this point, and especially after a trade
deadline and a bunch of deals that we saw in
the Jets yesterday.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean, Breist Hall, like there was talk he was
gonna get dealt.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
They were talking about Hall.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Stick around, Yeah, stick around and just swim in the
mud with the rest of us here and trying to
get too dirty. All right, man, how many games are left?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I mean, you definitely have have told your team that
we don't believe in any of y'all mother efforts. And
I'm just letting y'all know that we're going to finish
out this season. Y'all can win, y'all can lose, y'all
can do whatever it is y'all want to do. It's
almost kind of like a gangster move for real, for real,
because that like, that's a brain f if you're still

(14:51):
in that locker room games nine games, that's a lot
of games, man, God, that's a lot of games half
of the season.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I've I've told y'all, I've.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Now let y'all know, y're all on notice. You're you're
all on notice, Like you think you can't get it.
Quinnon's a good dude. He's a better man than most
of y'all in here. He had to go, sass. Gardner's
a cool cat. He had to go.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
So I'm just looking out all of y'all in this room.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Do you think I care about you? You better make
me care? Are you out of here?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I mean every once in a while, I mean, we
don't live in an era of time where scare tactics
really work with this generation of people. But I gotta
say one of the biggest motivating factors a part of
football with scare factors, scare techniques.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Hell yeah, scare you, and let me tell you something.
You want to know the reality of what's going on
and in the.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Jets building from here on out, I guarantee you you're
gonna see more inspired football bout the New York Jets
moving forward, because any of y'all can get it. And
we've just let y'all know. If we lose, we already losing.
We're already losing, y'all. Mother efforts have messed this up.
Y'all didn't know how good you had it until you

(16:19):
start seeing dudes like quinnin and saw us end up
somewhere else and you want a reality check.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
That's a hell of a reality check.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Now, what you're.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Gonna do with it? I gotta be honest to you.
I'll be transparent.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
So all this, while all this was going on yesterday,
I was I was, actually I was.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I was attending Nick Mango's funeral.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Oh man, so we Uh.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
The crazy thing.

Speaker 7 (16:46):
About it was it was really close to Floorham Park,
where their facility is. And by the way, they have
one of the best facilities in the league.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
They have some of the best.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
That little label lake Off, Little pawd Man made pawn
off to the side.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, well, I mean, no one's doing much there.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
I'm just saying, like everything they have at the facility
is incredible, the food, the people who work there, like everyone.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
It truly is like a really special place.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
Like the whole area around it, Madison, Morristown, those areas
are really really awesome places to like live and raise
a family and all that. But it was it was
crazy because you know, I'm seeing all these people now. Granted,
you know, past players and coaches and people who who
worked work for the organization. Still you know, we weren't seeing

(17:35):
like their current regime. But I was just thinking, how like,
all this stuff is going on while all these people
who have so many ties to the organization or even
some of the people who are working equipment or you know,
working the training with the training staff and all that
they're they're you know, here a part of this, and

(17:55):
it's it's got to be a shock to them too.
But on a separate note, super super sad day yesterday,
but also like pretty awesome. I've I've never I've never
heard of a yuleg if you will, or or a
remembrance from Alan Fannic who spoke and it was maybe

(18:16):
the greatest I ever heard like that man like I
obviously have always respected him as a you know, former player,
but the man that Alan Fannick is, And then when
he talked about Nick Mangold and obviously then man that
Nick Mangold was, you can tell why they were close
and you could tell why he was who they chose to,
you know, stand up and speak.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
It was it was pretty moving.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
It was pretty incredible, you would do.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
He still running marathons too.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
He looks fantastic, Like if you if you, if you
saw him, you would never guess that he played offensive
line ever, Like he looks fantastic and and these is
sharp and he's just like you can tell he's a
He's a Hall of Fame through and through and in
every capacity.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's how a lot of them are. Man, they lose
that weight, you know. You know, I mean not to
change subjects because that's a somber topic, but just to
get us off of being sad that the only way
that I would have probably.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
We're talking about the Jets is kind of hard.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, yeah, it went from sad to sad er though,
like saddest, you know, because that's a I mean, he's
a bright spot for that organization and he you know,
he got up out of here. Yeah, so that's like
really like kind of like dang, it's bad. But Hutchinson,
you know, the lineman, that the Hall of Fame lineman.

(19:40):
You know, we had a very very like turbulent type
of deal. Like since college, we we've always were like,
you know, he was that one dude that felt like
he was going to be the one that slams me
around and finished plays and go go after the whistle.
I decided I'd be his huckleberry, so I did the

(20:03):
same thing back to him. We was doing that even
when we went to the pros. Just hated each other,
like he was one of the players on my list
of people that we just we hated each other, like
literally hated each other. And when I saw him at
the College Football Hall of Fame, we're talking da da
da this that we're like chumming it up. But he's

(20:25):
looking at me like he still had this kind of
look at me, like you know, I'll bust your ass
type of look right. And I ain't understand it because
I ain't know who he was. I'm sitting there chumming
it up with a dude that I've hated for all
these years. He lost that much, he lost so much weight.

(20:46):
I thought I was talking to like a quarterback, like
we're having a good time. Tommy Fraser was there, Da
da Dad. We're sitting there at the bar where we're
having a good time. He's standing there with his wife.
His wife is slim, he's slim. We're sitting there talking
and I look at his hand and I'm like, hold
on a minute, that's a pro football Hall of Fame ring,

(21:06):
not a college football Hall of Fame ring. It looks
better than mine. Who is this? I looked at somebody,
and somebody said Steve. I was like, bitch, can't believe it.
I shook his head. After I realized that I was
talking to Steve Hutchinson. I shook his hand, he shook

(21:26):
my head. We looked at each other. We gave each
other a hug. I said, I guess we're family now,
so we got to get over whatever our hard feelings were.
And he was like, yeah, man, we gave each other
a hug. This was in Vegas. It's a magical moment.
Got to keep all shots out to the lineman, right.
It's cool little story. I had no idea who I
was talking to, man, and that was the only reason
why we even got close enough to even have that moment.

(21:50):
But anyways, it's just reminded me of like a cool
because Alan Fanica big fan of Allen Fanica, because obviously
I'm a big Steeler fan.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Joe Thomas lost a lot of way today. They all
lose a ton of weight.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Russell o'koon, have you seen have you seen the Pouncy Brothers,
Like all these dudes that were like three or four
hundred pounds, they look crazy.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Slim My guy, Orlando Franklin, I think it's lost the
most that I've ever seen. Like you wouldn't, You would
never recognize him, Like I played with him, and like
I remember seeing the picture.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I was like, who's that.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
One of my guys is like that's Olanda Franklin. Like
a holy cow, it's incredible. I mean, he's lost a ton.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
You'd be sitting there like are you sick? Like you've
lost too much. You've lost way too much. You know
who else got slim? Jared Allen got slim, like super slim.
Like guys are just I don't And I mean I
guess it's obviously for health purposes, Like there's so many

(22:49):
of your joints, all kinds of different things, cardiovasculars and
all kinds of different things, hypertension, that the silent killer,
heart attacks and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Like when you're that big, your.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Heart is working, your liver, your kid and he's are
working all crazy old time.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Franklin looks like an NBA player now pro look at
the pounces man.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Look I mean there's like, there's a long there's a
laundry list. Them dudes do the best.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
He's got them up point. Let me see.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, he looks.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, he looks very slim.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Very skin I'm just saying, if you even his face, like,
it's hard to like, it's like place it.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
At first he was.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
He was a thick one when he was playing. That's
him on the left when he was playing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
He's a big boy now too.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, probably definitely does.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Is this where you go? You always you always make
the transition too fast jokes. Give it a second to marinate, man,
like double give it a second to marinate.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
You know, it's like double dutch. Though, once you start,
you know, you start spending the ropes. You know, you
just got to take your time to get on in there, you.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
I know that cimes like Jonas never did double dutch
because he was like, well, there's my chance, I'm gonna
go out there.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
That's why I did do double dutch.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
When I was in grade scot and I was playing sports.
You do pop ups, quick feet, Well, that's why that's
why you had bad feet. That's why LeVar made it
to the NFL because he had good feet, because he
did double dutch and I got good rest too. He
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the way, is this gonna be man Man's first action
at home because he's been Uh.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, I've never seen him. I've never seen him on
the field, So.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, that's awesome, you accaid.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, I didn't even think about that because I thought
he was going to play against Ucla. He didn't get
on the field against Ucla because I I play, they
need to play their freshman.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Iowa was the first game, right, and then Ohio State
was the second.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
And now he's going to be an action this weekend
at home. Yeah, that's right, you got it. It's pretty sweet.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Can't wait to see you.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, I know. I wish you would have come to Columbus.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Would have been fun.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And I was I really was going to come to
I was really close to it. But you know what,
like I said, I needed to stick I needed to
stick around, you know. It was it was like an
anniversary deal where you know know, just some personal stuff.
I need to stick around with her. So it was good.
We had a really good time, you know, and and

(27:07):
you know, the baby you gotta you'll you'll realize as
your kids begin to like sprout and get older and
go in different directions, there's different ones that need more
attention at different times. And being there for Halloween with
pen was was probably the biggest priority because it's always like,
oh we got to go to Eugene, Oh we got

(27:28):
to go here to meet where Marley is. Oh we
got to go here. The twins are data die. We
gotta go to State college, like like she's got to
she gets home school because she can't even go to
regular school. Pen can't go to regular school because we're
always traveling to see the kids. So I felt like
I made the right decision, Like yeah, man, man, you
get in, you run down.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
The field, but let's keep it in perspective.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I had a game one time where I ran for
two hundred and ninety five yards. We won the game
with the last second heroic touchdown. And before I went
to film review the next morning, after seeing my accolades
on the news local news that Friday night, heading to

(28:09):
film review. On my way out, my mother and father
made sure to remind me that the trash cans needed
to go out and be set out before you before
you push to go watch film. So the point of
the moral of the story is is keep it all
in perspective, like you know what I mean, Like find
a balance. You're never as good as you think you are,

(28:30):
You're never as bad as you thought you were, so
keep it somewhere in the middle. It's cool that y'all
played D one, y'all d one level, but you know what,
I'm gonna go trick or treating with the little one
and see what she got going on.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm talking about that was important.
But I am pumped up to go see him run
down the field and maybe possibly maybe possibly put him
in so y'all could get a pass rush, you know,
go get a quarterback, you know, here and there, just
saying one thing he can do, he could get to
the quarterback. I'll tell you that. Anyway, I digress. What

(29:05):
are we talking about, speaking of stopping to run or
get to the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, because Brady kind of mentioned this half joking whether
or not Jerry Jones was listening to you following the
trades that went down. You know, they make the trade
for Quentin Williams yesterday, and I just I do wonder
seeing how active and aggressive they've been in re signing

(29:30):
players after the Micah Parsons trade, you know, getting as
aggressive as they were yesterday at the trade deadline. This
does prove to me that whatever falling out there was
between Micah and Jerry clearly was personal. It's overcompensating, right,
and clearly still his personal. It's overcompensingcause he's trying really

(29:52):
hard to win that trade. Yes, yes he is, And
I just yes he is, because this goes back to
the point, why couldn't you get a deal done? Like
when you if you're a Cowboys fan, man Quinn Williams
is awesome all these moves, you know, Kenny, that's awesome.
You made these moves to improve your your your run defense.

(30:13):
But I can't imagine there's a Cowboys fan in seeing
all these moves who isn't Like I'd rather have Michah Parsons,
Like I'd rather we just re signed him and then
just go into the season with that, because it feels
like you'd be in a better place. Name one.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Pass rusher and currently in the league right now, that
is the reason why their team is winning. This was
the exercise I did after the show yesterday. In my mind,
I was like kind of thinking about, can I think
of one pass rusher that this team is actually winning?

(30:52):
Even just interior line, right, Like if I think about
the team that won, you know, the Rams when Day won,
definitively say Aaron Donald was the reason why that team
was winning. Like there's there's like there's a few where
you can sit there and you can go down the
lists like this is why at vonn at the peak

(31:13):
of von Miller and what he had going on, and
it happened to be him and DeMarcus as well, like
they were the reason why the Broncos were winning. I
can't think of anyone in the league right now, and
that's sad because Males Garrett is as good as any
name you'll throw out there as a pass rusher, and

(31:35):
he is not the catalyst of his team winning for
one reason or another. How the game has evolved, what
the rules may be, I don't know what it is,
but there hasn't been someone that you look at and
you say, this dude is so dominant that the team
is winning because of how dominant he is and how
he's playing totally shuts down the offense and boom. All

(31:57):
they have to do on the other side of the
ball is put up, a couple touchdowns is done. So
it almost in a way, as the season is playing out,
it almost kind of justifies Jerry Jones not paying out
a tremendous, astronomical number to his premiere pass rusher.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
On the team.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So you're on Jerry's side now.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I'm really not saying I'm on his side. What I'm
saying is is that I know, I know, but it
just seems like logically speaking, and if you really think
about what he's trying to do, he's trying to establish
his interior front. And if you can establish a good
interior front that can handle things the way that they

(32:43):
need to handle it. I think we've had this conversation
at times before about how you can platoon. You can
actually get to a point of where you have a
nice active rotation of pass rushing edges or lined back
whatever you want to call them, and you can bring
them in and they can rush like this one might

(33:07):
be more of a speed rusher, this one might be
more of a power guy. This one might be more
of a play to run too power and two pass rushing,
whatever it may be. I think if you have a
strong interior line, it gives you a little bit more,
you know, flexibility on what you're doing with the edges.
So I don't know that he's going to do anything

(33:27):
to have won the trade. He certainly doesn't help his
case by doing things that seem like he's overcompensating for
what he didn't do with Michael Parsons. But I will
say he doesn't look like I can't say he looks
like a moron for what it is that he's trying
to do. It looks like he's doing it the right way,
you build it from the inside out.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I mean, I just isn't the whole goal to draft
and then pay your own if you hit on a
draft pick, which is why the Jets doing what they
did yesterday. I look at and go sweet, they got
more draft picks. So what's going to happen to those
guys after three or four years. I'm just gonna get
traded for more picks if they end up hitting like it,
just it feels like a deal could have been reached

(34:13):
with Micah Parsons and something fractured their relationship and Jerry
was out on him from a personal standpoint, maybe not
from a business standpoint. That's what it feels like to
me after all this.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
I'm one hundred percent with that because think about didn't
they paid deron plan and they paid someone else to
like right after they traded him, And so you're like, well,
clearly he wanted to you know, he was willing to
pay it, just he didn't want to pay Micah. I
don't know if it's something Micah said or did, or
between Jerry, maybe the agent you don't have.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
To deal with.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I don't know what it was, but it does feel
like there was something else behind the scenes that was
more personal than it was business, and that there was
a fracture there that couldn't be repaired. That's the only
thing that makes sense, I mean, to your point. LeVar agree.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I think most organizations feel like if.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
They can get more and pay out less or pay
out the same amount, you know, they would take that.
You know, they don't want to have to wrap up
too much of their salary cap into one player. That
one player gets hurt and now you're sitting there going okay, like,
was that really worth it, especially if they feel like
that player could be a headache of sorts or of

(35:25):
any type.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
But I don't know.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
I look at this, I still think if you're the
Dallas Cowboys, you're not changing your game plan if you're
going up against them because of any of the additions
they made. Now, Quinn Williams is different, Like Quinn Williams
is a different type of player. He's a problem, right,
Like you're gonna have to worry about him. I don't
know if you're gonna be getting off double teams anytime

(35:49):
soon to go up to you know, the second level,
you got to know where he's at.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
He's a tough matchup.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
There's probably some things interiorly that you can't do against
them because he's just he's a tough matchup for you.
So he to me, is a difference maker to the
magnitude of Micah and the way you can move mic
go around no. And that's that's to me what makes
me kind of lean more of why don't you just
pay Micah?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
He's a superstar.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
He changes the way teams play you just because of
his presence, just because of his ability to what he's
capable of. And all these players you brought in they
might help, But I don't know that the sum is
going to be greater than the impact that Micah has
out there on the field because of how special he is.

(36:35):
So I understand what Jerry and the Dallas Cowboys are doing.
It's made for great fodder and talk like this entire offseason,
you know, training camp, even into like the trade deadline,
like thank you, Jerry, Like you're giving us stuff to
talk about it. It's like a drama it's like we're
back on Landman, by the way, comes back November sixteenth
for fans out there.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, but it's like he's.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
Back on Landman again, you know, and like a real
life scenario here. So thank you for that, Jerry, But
I'm not sure you're better off trading away a guy
that every single team looks at and that whatever tackle's
got to go up against them, you know, whatever you know,
offensive line coach and offensive coordinator has to go up
against them, is you know, up at night trying to

(37:18):
figure out how they're gonna stop this guy.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
You know it was Bland. Tyler Smith was the other
one who got a deal.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
It just feels like there's a lot of activity post
trade that's sort of a well I'll show you and okay,
but they're not better off, Like they're not a better defense.
I mean, maybe maybe this will will improve them a
little bit. But Troy Aikman was, you know, making the
point on Monday Night Football. He's like, I don't know
that there's a player out there you're gonna get that's

(37:46):
gonna fix this. So like, what what are you planning
on doing at the trade deadline?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
That's as good a response as you could possibly give.
What Jerry did. I mean, let's be clear if if
if we're going to say, what what could you do
to make a difference? I have to trade did line?
Getting quinnin Williams is a hell of a response?

Speaker 5 (38:12):
All right?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Can we let's just cut the crap here?

Speaker 5 (38:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
What did mikel do to piss him off?

Speaker 6 (38:17):
All right?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (38:18):
No, man, what happened?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
This is you know what we need?

Speaker 7 (38:20):
We need some game show music. Yeah, because this is
where Jonas knock shines. Let's do it when he just
wildly Oh no, no, no no, this is where we're gonna
let you wildly speculate what you think Micah Parsons did
to tick off Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
This is this is your this is your category, buddy.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well anybody you know and and guys know this. There's
one thing that can really cause problems in a friendship
or relationship between guys, and that's a woman. And I
just wonder if Jerry sort of fancied himself as still
the same old Jerry Jones with all the money and

(39:00):
all the looks and everything that came along with it
in his twenties only to find out, Hey, Jerry, she's
not interested in you, She's interested in the other guy
that's actually in his twenties that's got gonna have all
that money coming up for him. And maybe they were
shopping in the same aisle and that ile decided to
pick Mica not Jerry. That would be my first guess
I had that happen to me, did you? Yes, Dan

(39:22):
Snyder took your chick.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
No, I was about to take his, and then I
was told I was I was told that, uh, he
should probably not take that one out, Like, okay, was
uh now that makes sense?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
That makes sense?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
That was the day I decided I needed to have
my own company, by the way, like this is this
is what you could do to stockpile your your workforce.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
Like I know that sounds horrible, but I was young.
Well there go throw it out there.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Don't you feel like there was.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
If there was a woman who's picking between you and
little Danny, that like, it's pretty pretty stark contrast, you know,
between what you're looking for in that experience, I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, I mean, obviously you're it's a different contrast than
what you're going to get out of the scenario.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I mean I obviously.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Had more to offer in some capacities, and he obviously
had more to offer in some capacities as well. I mean,
I mean we all had a lot to offer to
the situation.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
This depends on what it is that you wanted out
of it. I mean, was she worth the fight?

Speaker 10 (40:45):
I mean, hell yeah, by the way, I mean, while
we're at it, maybe there was the situation of because
I know how Mica is, if Mike's like he's touched sometimes, maybe.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Jerry Jones wondered and to the locker room at some point.
You never you never heard of the term touched. Y'all
never heard that, like like you know, like you like
do like weird things or you have like you know
what I mean, like touched, Like am I touched? Yes,
a little bit, not not not over top, but he's

(41:19):
a little touched. Lorena is totally touched. Like what are
you saying right now? Look up the term touched, Like
it's it's just it's just.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
A way slang term. We're doing your whole thing again.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
It's a slang term. Touched is a is a slang term.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
It's like almost like saying like you're you're like you're
silly or you know, touched like you know, you're a slappy,
like you're yeah, like slappy, right, touched?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Like so I can't call you a slappy, that is
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Uh you could, you know, you could just depends on
you know what.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
What do you do? You feel like you get a
little slappy every once in a while.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, So Mike, Mike is touched though, Yeah, like he
like he'll make you laugh just off of like a
look like, bro, what's wrong with you? Or the way
he eats his food, like, bro, you're touched, like, you know,
like weird stuff. Jerry walked into the lot, so Jerry
didn't walked into the locker room, and Mike's probably playing
ping pong or something like that, and then brought back
the old school cotton shorts you know with the white drawstring,

(42:19):
you know that that are really really short that they
used to actually wear and practices out there on the
practice field, and Michael was ping ponging but he wasn't
using either one.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Of his hands.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
He was actually all using blue chew and and and
it was coming out at the bottom of them short
cottons and Jerry Jones and that moment in time, felt
very very inadequate, you know, insecure, jealous. There were a
lot of emotions that ran through his body and his

(42:52):
mind at the time, and he said, I gotta get
rid of this guy. Big D does not stand for
Micah Parsons being the Big D in Dallas. I gotta
get him up out of here. So he walked in
and saw his belt bat. It was like, enough enough,
that's what I mean. Okay, there's really like you said.
You say it girls, So I'm gonna just play off

(43:12):
of it. Like there's something that made him very insecure,
and he did not want to communicate eye to eye
with Michael Parsons anymore after that interaction.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Who would exactly? You got a man that's touched.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
He just went to the Great Wall of China and
was he was sumo wrestling and all that.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Now I see him right here.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
He's beating up on my players on ping pong and
he's not even using his hands. He's he's the first
player I've ever seen with no hands win ping pong matches.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
He's gotta go send sending him to Green Band.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
He's got send him somewhere the coldest place I can
think of, because Hopefully he'll get the shrinkage because of
how cold it is, and they won't have to deal
with the same issues from this touch young man that
I'm dealing with right here in the Big d Hey,
I have.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
Never heard of two men talk about another dude's package
more than right now.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I'm just saying, y'all wanted to know why he didn't
want to pay him that money. That man has already
been blessed. Wow, I'm a be the one that continue
to add on to his blessings. Hey, you got enough
blessings for me? You get the hell up out of here.
Here you go, that's my suspicion.

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(45:19):
He is Petros Papadaeikas. He is the co host of
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Speaker 11 (45:32):
Good morning, Hello hi Pe, Hello hello hello.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
So, how biggest takeaway for you from the epic Dodgers
World Series win that looked like it was not going
to go the way the Dodgers several times, But what
was your big takeaway following back to back World Series
championships for your team, the La Dodgers.

Speaker 11 (45:56):
I guess all the hyperbole right. Everybody in town was
pretty locked in to.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
What was going on.

Speaker 11 (46:03):
And the Dodgers do really seem like the jewel of
Los Angeles, and they kind of have been for a
long time, doing millions and millions of fans every year.
Even when Frank McCord owned him. There was one year
there though that the fans kind of rejected him and
MLB removed the owner and then this guy Mark Walter

(46:24):
took over, and ever since that happened, the investment back
in the team from the money they make is astronomical,
and it seems like they do it correctly. I mean,
there's lots of teams that spent a lot of money,
but the Dodgers seemed to be able to do it
with the right people. And I mean, I guess what

(46:46):
you saw in the World Series was just how small
the margins are for victory in between victory and defeat,
and it was pretty special. It's hard to have perspective
because you see an eighteen inning game. You see a
guy go nine innings and then pitch the very next day. Obviously,

(47:09):
what shoe Otani does, nobody does. Nobody's done in many,
many years, decades, one hundred years, so it's hard to
kind of have perspective on what you're watching, but it's
certainly spectacular and something to celebrate in the city.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
So that's my takeaway.

Speaker 11 (47:26):
I mean, you drive home, you know what it's like
at night, Jonas you see in your neighborhood. Everybody's got
the game on or people are having gatherings to watch
the game.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
So every house, yeah, game on.

Speaker 11 (47:39):
So it sort of feels like, you know, the day
after Christmas, now that it's all over, but it was
a heck of a run again, and now they're going
to run back a team of a bunch of thirty
somethings because what else can they do. I mean, a
lot of these guys are under contract till like twenty sixty,
so it'll be interesting to see how things go down

(48:00):
to stretch. But it feels as if they just push
all the right buttons because they have great leadership in
the front office and the obviously Dave Roberts, who's one
of the most successful managers of all time now and
then you have Freddie Freeman, Shoeo Toddi, Mookie Bats, guys

(48:21):
like that, and and a lot of these Japanese players, well,
the two Roki Sasaki, the young guy who and Kasaki
he was no, He's like a no, that's Roku.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh oh oh my bad.

Speaker 11 (48:37):
He's a starter, but they made him a closer at
the end of the year. And then Yamamoto, who was spectacular.
It's been a it's been a good ride for the
station and for everybody in LA.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
That's the truth.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
That's awesome, man.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
Well, obviously happy for you, Happy for the Dodgers winning
back to back. Do you ever look at this series
and kind of wonder how it At times people kind
of talked about it it was David versus Goliath, and
I'm like, hold on. The Blue Jays won more games
of the regular season. They had like the fifth highest payroll.
It wasn't like there was, you know, that wide of
a gap. It's not like they're playing the Pirates or something.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (49:11):
Yeah, I think it's because the players aren't as recognizable.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
They're up there in Canada.

Speaker 11 (49:16):
Their style was super scrappy and they had a very
methodical way of approaching the Dodgers, which was very difficult
for the Dodgers to overcome. But it is interesting the
weird narrative that the Blue Jays were somehow the better
team throughout the series. I mean, you might be able
to say that in a football game where everything goes

(49:37):
wrong or a hoops game, but a seven game Major
League Baseball series where you had an opportunity to put
them away like three or four times and you didn't
do it. I mean, that's that doesn't seem like it's
a really winning sort of storyline.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
But that's just me.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Petros I was.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I was interviewing Mac Brown the other day and oh yeah,
oh man, what an amazing what an amazing dude. Man,
Like it got so good that I had like tears
in my eyes talking to him about some of the
topics that that we discussed. And one of the deals was,
you know, the National Championship game against that the Bush
push team.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Uh sorry, Brady, Uh.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
But I mean the things that he talked about and
just the you know, superlatives he used to talk about.
USC was was was football here at the height of
its popularity in some aspects with those teams? Or is
it overstated? And one way or the other. Is there

(50:45):
any chance for football college football? I guess more in particular,
is it any chance for it to gain more momentum
in LA?

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (50:55):
Well, I think that when USC is consistently great like
they were in those days, and the Bush Push team
that we are always talking about, I mean they lost
the championship. That's one thing a lot of people forget.
Another thing that people forget is after that notre name game,
they didn't they scuffled as the year went on. I

(51:20):
mean at the end of the year, I did a
Fresno State game where Fresno State should have beat them
if it wasn't for a pick six that the quarterback
threw and they were in the coliseum and Fresno State
put up like forty you know, people started to.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Put up points.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I remember that game.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
Yeah, it's the most watch game in the history of FSN,
back when we used to be on there. So people
kind of, you know, they lose perspective the team the
year before was really the most dominant team. But you're right,
college football is not as popular in town, and you
could point to the fact that USC hasn't been consistent.

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You could say that that killed West Coast football in
a lot of ways. I mean, certainly Oregon and Washington
are doing fine, but you could make that argument.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
But it's not just that.

Speaker 11 (52:08):
I think that it's the Chargers and the Rams being
in town as well. I mean back then USC was
you could legitimately say if you lived here in that
time and were covering sports, and I was very much
doing both. Those guys were bigger than Kobe, Linard and
Bush at the time. I mean they were the be's

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knees all over the country and in town.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
And I think you see that. I mean, USC has
so much.

Speaker 11 (52:38):
Influence and so many tendrils throughout the area that when
they activate and they're.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Really good and people believe in.

Speaker 11 (52:49):
The coach and all that they have, the city kind
of open up for them because movie producers, politicians, judges,
all kinds of people, owners of giant shopping centers, they're
USC people. So you see, if the football team is

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consistently good, you start to see that happen very rapidly.
But they've not been consistently good in decades now, so
you haven't seen it. You just haven't seen it. But
I think if they're good and they're consistent and dominant,
that is I believe what you would see again, and

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maybe down the stretch this team has a chance to
get a foothold.

Speaker 6 (53:35):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 11 (53:36):
I don't have that much faith in their ability to
beat Oregon and get in the College Football Playoff, which
would certainly excite some people, but they'd have to be
pretty dominant to sort of recreate those days.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I remember going to Washington. This is when Tyrone Willingham
was at Washington, a Washington at USC game at the Coliseum,
when those guys are still playing there and and you
had girls taking their tops off like it was wild.
It was a really wild seed and those guys were
because that was at the point to where you know,

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the the Shaq Kobe Lakers had disbanded and Shaq went
on to Miami at that time, and so there really
wasn't there, you know, there wasn't an NFL presence. It
really was USC like they were rock stars in this town.

Speaker 11 (54:25):
Yeah, and you know you could say Liner and Bush.
But after that they had Guy Sanchez, John David Booty.
I mean they had They were not championship teams, they
were Rose Bowl winning teams, but they were still still
pretty good. And two thousand and nine was Carol's last year.
They lost a few games and played in an Emerald

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Nut Bowl, and then he was he was gone to Theattle,
and then he was gone to good. Say what depends
on you know, what kind of level of salt you
want on them?

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Yeahs are sometimes, but you.

Speaker 6 (55:04):
Remember, I have a good Mac Brown story. What's the
back brown story?

Speaker 11 (55:09):
The Mac Brown? I have a good Mac Brown, let's
hear it. I was doing a game. I'd never been
outside the Pac twelve really for years and years or
Pac ten, and they put me on a Missouri game,
Missouri Texas and it was Mac Brown versus what was that,

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Gary Pinkel And it was a good game, and I
remember a guy got hurt, Josie badly hurt a running back,
and I was a sideline guy and it was right
before the half, so I was sort of displaced over
there checking out the injury when I was supposed to
interview Mac Brown going into the tunnel on TV, and

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I was out of place, and I looked at the
clock and it hit Zeros and I kind of panic,
like I'm gonna have to sprint across the field or
not get the interview or I'm not sure. And I'm
looking all around and freaked out, and next thing you know,
he's just standing right next to me. He just he
came over and found me on the other side of
the field from where he was supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
He was just right there. He was like and I
didn't ever I never met mac Brown or anything like that.
And he goes hello, Petros. I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 11 (56:24):
And they're like, you know, thirty seconds away or whatever,
you know, ten seconds and he's like, how's your daddy?
And I was like, oh my god, this guy's.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Unreal, Yo, daddy.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
You know that he is.

Speaker 11 (56:35):
I mean, I understand what you're saying, LeVar, because some
of those guys when they talk and the way they communicate.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
It's just magic. Yeah, and he's one of those guys.

Speaker 11 (56:44):
I'll never forget that bailing me out after I was
displaced and.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
A halftime thing. Hmmm, yeah, man, there's my mac Brown.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
That's a it's a great way of explaining. Some guys
just have a special aura with him. Mac Brown is
She's And I had been a fan of him. I
had heard so much about him growing up. He was
in that that you know, that conversation with the greats
like Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno and those names, and
but I had never really met him. And and then

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you know, we met and we talked. I was like,
holy moly. We was in forty minutes before. You know,
I just I had to cut off the interview because
we we would have probably went for another hour or so,
just the way the conversation was going. But you you
realize why guys win, you know, why teams win when
they had those those type of guys, you know, leading
the way. But I thought it was a great story,

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you know him the way he set the stage before
that game they played, because Texas almost lost that year
as well, and I think it was A and M
that almost knocked them off. They were losing at halftime,
so it both teams had moments where and I feel
like that's a it's a great commentary.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
There was so much.

Speaker 11 (57:58):
Yeah, well yeah, the Texas kind of crept in there
and Vince Young kind of crept in there and did
what they did.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yeah, and you can keep in mind Reggie Bush beat
Vince Young for the Heisman that year going into that game.
So yeah, it was interesting. Man, it is that great conversation.
But yeah, anyways, I thought.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
It was interesting, Like on the note on sc still
outside shot at making in the playoff if they if
they went out, sure, what do they have?

Speaker 6 (58:26):
North Coster?

Speaker 11 (58:27):
This week on a week night game, that's that's always
a little tricky. But they should win that, right.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
Yeah, it seemed like Lincoln was really frustrated with that
after a night game versus Nebraska having to play on.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
A short week, you seem to be frustrated with that
track game.

Speaker 11 (58:41):
Emplaining about the schedule doesn't help, you know, I got
to be honest, but it is interesting. I mean when
USC was in the Pac ten and then the Pac twelve,
one of the things they did not do well was
protect USC from themselves, right with the scheduling and stuff.
The way you see maybe Ohio State and Michigan respected

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by the Big Big ten or Alabama and the sec
LSU stuff like that. I mean, you don't see those
teams playing on a Friday night in Pullman in October
and it would happen to USC all the time and
they would have to navigate that. But I that'll be tricky.
Playing Oregon will be tricky. They they did show something.

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I mean, I didn't think I saw that environment at Nebraska,
and I remember the way they played at the game
that you were at Illinois and the way they played
at Notre Dame. And I thought Nebraska after Nebraska's first drive.
I thought Nebraska was gonna be able to control that
game physically, and then USC kind of stepped up and
it didn't happen, and they knocked out Rayola.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I believe, so.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Say if he if he finishes, I don't know that
they win, but you know, you never know.

Speaker 6 (59:49):
Yeah, you never know, and that's the way it played out.

Speaker 11 (59:52):
But I don't I don't think they'll be a college
football playoff team, but they certainly aren't proved from last year.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
What's the strategy for you? Petros? Now are you sort
of dreading the fact that you're going to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Have to I dread everything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Well, I'm saying, you know, now that the Dodger season
is over, and now you've got to maybe Tawny now
you got to deal with that whole circus again.

Speaker 11 (01:00:15):
Well that's fine, you know, I mean, I go back
into the world of sports talk radio or the way
that I do it, and I mean, the big story
we cover everything and it's not just my show.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
But I mean the.

Speaker 11 (01:00:27):
Story I did yesterday was the fact that Boise State basketball,
who won twenty six games last year and gets projected
to compete for the Mountain West title, lost to a
white team.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:00:39):
Hawaii Pacific, which is literally a strip mall. Hawaiian Pacific
University is a strip mall in Honolulu right across from
the water. They took over a strip mall with their
five thousand students. They have eight rows in their basketball gym,
and so I got into the history that universe a

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little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
You know, stuff like that is what we go back to.

Speaker 11 (01:01:03):
It's you know, it's hard when you cover something and
everybody's really into every moment and then it's over and
you just kind of go back to what you normally do.
But my strategy is just to go back to what
I normally do. I mean, we'll have college football today
and all that, and then we'll have the hot stove
with the baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Do you think you if something and I don't want
this to ever happened, but if something were to happen
to your lizard, have you thought about cloning it?

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
No.

Speaker 11 (01:01:29):
I heard about this with Tom Brady and it's just
another business fan.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
I mean Tom.

Speaker 11 (01:01:35):
Brady he hit us earlier in the year with the
flag football in Saudi Arabia or whatever, and that was
a big to do, a big announcement. This is another
business venture for him the cloning of your dog. It
costs fifty thousand dollars. So, yeah, that is another story
that we covered.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Are you getting to the.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Point where you're like, all right, is anything he'd does
genuine or is it all like a business investment behind it?

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
Well, that's our colleague.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
I mean, I don't I'm asking the question.

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Yeah, no, I agree, but like that's part of the
issue with this country is no one can ask questions anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
No, you're a question. How dare you ask?

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
I don't know him well, but yeah, he seems you know,
whenever somebody's teeth are that white, it's hard to trust him.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:24):
Freddy Freeman's the only guy with teeth that white that
you feel like you trust.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, those are veneers, right on, Freddy, He's got veneers. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
You look at his teeth when he was coming out
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I goven ears. Well, I was seeking of an
apple now I can't can't bind into an apple.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
I wish he had him to where he could close
his mouth though, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, sometimes you know the way those are put in
and they look like toilet lids, They just become way
too big for your mouth and it's hard to get
your top lip over him to cover them all the way.
So you just said it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:56):
When you have like a gnarly movie star tan somebody
literally cuts your hair every single day and you have
like teeth that's shone like the sun, and you're worth
billions of dollars or whatever it is. You know, it's
hard to relate to normal people. I don't know if
that's really relatable to tell everybody to spend fifty thousand

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dollars to clone their dog, especially in days like today.
You know, these days, it's it's hard to swallow. But
a lot of yeah, I mean there's people that don't
live in the world, you know, like like the rest
of us do, and Tom Brady's probably one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Can't you just go to a pet store and get
a new dog for like one hundred bucks or something.

Speaker 11 (01:03:35):
Or like a rescue I don't know, Yeah, I mean yes,
I mean those are all things you can do.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
But apparently you can also get it cloned, Like for.

Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
Is, dig up your old dead bull mastiff that's been
done for like twelve years, even though we still talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Fast on bone that's not worth the money, Like he
can stay where he's at.

Speaker 11 (01:03:56):
It's interesting though, I mean it does bring up certain
questions about Tom Brady's feel to read the room, but
I don't think he cares very much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Where you at the in Orlando this weekend?

Speaker 11 (01:04:10):
You get I'm in Orlando tomorrow. Yeah, never been to
Orlando before. So that'll be a UCF the Space Game
against Houston Frost, Yes, Scott Frost versus Willie Fritz. That'll
be fun on Friday night. And then I come back
to do Colorado State UNLV and then we'll be on

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from there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Next week.

Speaker 11 (01:04:32):
I'm gonna drive to Fresno because I'm not flying to Fresno.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Doesn't seem like it makes sense. So uh, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:04:41):
Yeah, I got a lot going on, a lot of
dishes to wash as the season finishes here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
What's that like?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Enjoy Orlando, by the way, I think you'll like UCF's canvas.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
I've never been.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Yeah you like it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Bounce House.

Speaker 11 (01:04:55):
Yeah, that's the name of their state. It's the Space
game too, which apparently they never lose, so something's got
to get They got to play Houston, and Houston's pretty
good and they just blew a terrible get lost to
West Virginia. So we'll see how my Houston Cougars can
bounce back, all.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
Right, P.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
That'd be dope if they if they won o P.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
You know, thank super dope if Houston Cougars could pull
it out in central central Orlando, the city of Central Florida.

Speaker 11 (01:05:26):
Yeah, I guess they call it UCF. They get really
mad if you call it Central Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
Now, well, just saying central Florida, I.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
Feel like geograph.

Speaker 11 (01:05:35):
Now I understand, but I don't know. I didn't know
that before I did that, I did UCF versus uh, Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
It's it's like it's like SC. They hadn't only been
called Southern cal.

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):
Well, they went back to Southern cal now because they
bought the rights to it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
So now that they have the rights that they're fine with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Oh makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I just I feel like it's confusing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
It's like referring to SC like I tried Google searching
one thing one time, and you know South Carolina, Kim, Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 11 (01:06:03):
Yeah, calling it SC is very West coast thing. But
I do think you know, when you compare South Carolina
to USC and the university's histories athletically, it's not much
of a contest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Dang jonas Hey facts or facts?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Women say they never had the program filmed on SC's campus.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah, that is true. The program was filmed at Williams
Bryce Petros.

Speaker 11 (01:06:28):
They have that going for yeah. So, and they have
you know, the whole hoodie and the blowfish.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Connection, and it's true. Somewhere there's a Joe Caine statue there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
From my understanding, Kine is able Caine is because we
all know that Kane is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That is the best football movie, correct, Petros? No, no
good one though, North Dallas forty.

Speaker 11 (01:06:48):
No, Well, that is a good movie. I would say
it's The water Boy really, Oh yeah, for sure?

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Uh The water Boy.

Speaker 11 (01:06:57):
Yeah, y'all remember when Bobby Bouche came back and time
and the mud Dogs won the Bourbon Ball.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Do you you kind of sound like that one coach
that that smoke you know, farmer fram Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
Yeah, I mean we had had ogeron on our staff
when I was playing, and we saw the water.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Like that. Yeah, okay, The water Boy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
The water Boy.

Speaker 11 (01:07:17):
What other movie do you have Lawrence Taylor stand there
and say, don't smoke crack.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
That's very true. I mean you did have him in
any given Sunday though, I don't know, man, the program
was like so over the top. Stereotypical is amazing horror.
It's hard to pick over top of the program Friday
right lights is up there though, that one is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
And then dude, any given Sunday is the best speech
of any.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I don't know. I don't know, bro.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Remember remember all time it's Team Wolf.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Oh, I would agree what.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
Michael J.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Fox?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, sports move you tripped out?

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
How does a d in the middle of the game
and everybody's like, okay, you're.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
That for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Just Team Wolf. Come on, bar surfing styles driving around
a van for some reason.

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
Yeah, listen to you guys talk crap about Team Wolf.
But you love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
We do know who Michael J.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Fox is. That's for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
We do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Again, all right, Petros, we will enjoy enjoy the weekend
in Orlando. All right, we're watching both games and we'll
do it again next week.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
Thank you. Night games on FS one, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
There he is, the great Petros Papadakis with us here
on Fox Sports Radio.