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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
For the love of.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
God, I just want to see it. You know, it's
like a blue whale breaching.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh my god, Let's.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
See what that looks like. You know, let it all
hang out. Let's see what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's like the kid when free Willy flies over his head.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Absolutely agree, right, I.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Mean, it's it's not anything other than just fascination and curiosity.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It probably would be a tad bit of a let down,
but you just never know.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
It could actually deliver.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, it could. It could be really pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's possible. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'll say this, do you need like a will burrow
to carry that? To carry that around. You know, like
what do you.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
All I know is the eyes and those hell like
they like that would like that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
That they didn't build those mounds. I'll tell you that
they was just created them. So you know, yeah it
is dumb trucks didn't have to deliver dirt there.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
It was just they were already there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Uh yeah, it's it's a real backbreaker. It is a
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By the way, how was how was Iowa City?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You were not awesome?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Ma'm not doing the show from a closet that Iowa.
Sam tried to tell you was somewhere else that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We do the show from which it was ironic that
the graduate thank you so much, in particular Steve too
for who was hooking it up. But they found a
conference room for us this time, LeVar, So it would
have been a much easier deal during that show than
the last time we endured when we had to do
it from a bar slash eight janitor's closet. So it
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was awesome. I'm willing to say this, and I don't
care really what the pushback is from anyone. Iowa City
is my favorite college town. It is awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's just it's like big enough but small enough. The
fans are die hard about the Hawks. Everyone there is
like super hospitable, super cool. It's just its own deal.
And it's it's a pretty campus. You know. Our setup
was right in front of the old Capitol building. Uh,
it's just a it's an awesome spot. And uh like
there are some good food spots there. I just I
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don't know. Every time I go there, like the Wave,
it's a it's a cool tradition. The way they're the
entrance into the stadium, you know, just they a C
D C. Just the whole thing. Man, It's just it's
an awesome, awesome place. If you've never been. Go go
to Iowa City to see a college football game. It
is a ton of fun. You'll you'll thoroughly enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Good game as well too.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
And that would that would play a good role with
you know, a good piece of it too.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So heart the one there. That's a big victory.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Dante more throw down the sideline on that final drive,
pretty impressive. I was bother way. I texted Iowa Sam
during that game. We never responded.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, he was probably what a j I won't I
won't tell you. Probably probably included a belt in some
Iowa haw guys.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Fruit of the looms?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Uh? Did you guys have a problem with the you
And upon further review now we find out that it's
not a legal play but USC dressing up rockyword Son
as the same number as the punter.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's a bit deceptive. If
you want to have the punter throw it, do it.
If you want to have the backup quarterback going and
act like he's punning and do it, do it. But
the whole I do tend to agree the multiple numbers thing.
I just I'm not sure how you're you're switching up
jerseys and all this stuff and how they're doing it.
It just it makes it really hard, and especially without
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you know, jerseys with names on the back. So I
don't like it. It seems deceptive. I know it's a
core to like college football. I'm just I'm not a
fan of it, man, I'm not a fan. And look
at by the way notre name. It is the same thing.
They do the same thing with their holder, so they
can run fakes out of their field goal pat team
if they need to. So there's like like Tyler Buckner,
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a backup quarterback and wide receiver. He you know, he's
in there for the holds. So it's just it always
lends itself to that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I thought you had to announce that, like the referees
have to. What is that where you have.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
When the guy's eligible?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
No, No, you one where you change your jersey, if
you change your jersey number, you got to announce that
this player has changed their jersey.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, that's what they're doing though they're not changing jerseys,
that's just the number.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
But I thought you can't have a jersey on the
same number, on the same on the same side of
the balls.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You just can't be on the field at the same time.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Oh that's wow. I didn't know that. That's today's year
old for me.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
So you could have two same numbers on the same
side of the ball, just can't be on the field
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well, yeah, because think about it. I mean, in reality,
you're gonna have guys who are like the duplicate numbers
who are playing special teams. Yeah, so they're not gonna
be do on the field at the same time, right,
but that the same time. Yeah, But like, but let's
say they're like, oh, that one guy, I would think
about it. I mean, you've got a guy who's technically
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technically upunter you think would be kind of offensive in nature,
right because you start like.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
For instance, if you have a running back that we're
the same number as a linebacker and both of them
are backups and they play special teams, Like, there's a
strong possibility that one of them but they one would
have to change their number because it's not like they
can both go on at the same time.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
That's confusing to me.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
But well that's what I'm saying, and that's why they
utilized it, because it is confusing. But that was just
one play.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean it's The Big Ten released a statement on Sunday.
They cited an NCAA rule under quote unfair tactics that reads,
two players playing the same position may not wear the
same number during the game.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
If a foul was identified when number eighty Johnson entered
the game as a punter, a team unsportsmanlike conduct penalty
would have been assessed, resulting in a fifteen yard penalty
from the previous spot. The Big Ten will continue to
review the situation with both institutions. Yeah, I mean, it
wasn't like that cost them the game. I would argue
the real swing in that game was the turnover the
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Jade and Mayava play where they fumbled the ball out
of the out of the end zone. That was a
bigger play in that game. But it's just, you know,
it is kind of a kind of a cheap way
to pull off a trick. And why not wait till
a bigger moment to do that if you're really planning
on that White pulled against Northwestern on a Friday night,
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you know, wait till a big game to do that.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
A bigger game. Yeah, well, they got Iowa this week.
That's a big game, and they got Oregon next week,
so they've got gonna have their opportunities to do it again.
I think the buy and large and the general takeaway
from this past weekend in college football, man is is
there the transfer portal? And this will be I'm sure
a study has truly truly leveled the playing field where
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And I'll make an analogy to golf. So I was
watching something the other day and they're basically talking about
Scotty Scheffler, how dominant he was, and like a lot
of people don't know how to put it into context
because everyone just compares it like to Ty like Tiger
Woods or Jack Nicholas, right, And the hard thing is is,
you know, it's numbers wise. It's hard to like help
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people understand. But but look at it this way. If
Scotty Scheffler is on average in every tournament playing seven
shots better than the number five guy on the PGA Tour, right, like,
that's pretty damn good. Like that's like just to give
a comparison, right like, that would be like you know,
someone hitting you know, two hundred points more in the
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in the Major League Baseball above everyone else. And then
what they said though, was like people don't tend to
understand that the fifth guy on the PGA tour to
like the one hundred and twenty fifth guy. That's how
far you'd have to go before you found the next
guy who's seven shots worse. And so you get this
like field of players who are really really close in
competitiveness and parody. Then you've got like your outlier, like
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you're Scottie Scheffler. It's like that in college football right now.
Like you get Ohio State, who to me looks to
be based on the eye test, now the resume hasn't
been quite as good as other teams, but looks to
be the best team, Like they look to be the
most sound, all around best team in college football. And
then you've kind of got this like group of other
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teams we're looking at going all right, Like I think
they're pretty good, but you know, anyone could beat anyone
on any given Saturday. It feels like, I mean, Auburn,
who just fired their coach, is taking Vandy at home
into overtime. Damn near beat them. You know, Wisconsin, who
just gave a vote of confidence for Luke Fickle who's
coming back next year, just knocked off at home. Washington,
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who had aspirations of going to the college football playoff,
I think those are dead now you look at Louisville.
Louisville's in a driver's seat. I think if they went
out of having a chance to go play in the
ACC Championship and they lose the cow at home in overtime,
like you go like game by game and you start
looking at the pieces wild.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Man, Listen, when when you have the opportunity to go
after players that you know other other schools would have.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
It's so interesting how elite players.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
That are getting recruited turned into some rate some reasons,
some strange, weird reason they're not good enough to play
where they're currently at. Or you get one who isn't
as happy at the place as they thought they were
going to be. This is a plethora of reasons as
to why, you know, these young young men choose to
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go into the portal. But it definitely provides the opportunity
for somebody be like, all right, well, look, you know,
you may not have known about Louisville, you know, and
you might not have known the perks and the benefits
of being in a town such as that to go
play football there. You know, and then you go there
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and it's like, well, I have a different perspective because
I went to this school that everybody goes to, or
it's the most popular to go to when you're a
four five star player. And then once that four or
five star wears off and you realize that it's about
being there, it's about being in classes, it's about being
on that practice field. Does this environment make me happy?
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Does this coach? Does this coaching staff fit the bill
for what I'm looking for?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
You know? And a lot of times it does.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And while I'm one to say figure out your environment,
make that environment work for you, I would also say
in some cases, you know what, in reality, you'll switch
job professions.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
What they say, like the studies is like it's more
than like twenty times.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
You're probably going to change your job profession during the
course of your lifetime. Like, so tell me, I don't
think that. Dang, you haven't done it twenty times. Jan
I mean, you've got lucky in profession. You settled into sports,
but a lot of jobs, radio.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
A lot of jobs. Yeah, when you work at Applebee's,
you're the rat. What else did you do? Janitor instruction?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Janitor uh tgi Fridays to toys, r us chuck E cheese.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
How many of those are out of business? By the way,
what rule you played in.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That waiter at a retirement home?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Jesus?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Where else? Somebod these aren't believable because I think you
just say them. None of this is such a likable guy.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, none of this is a.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Lie, guys, none of this is a lie. I'm Jonas
not had to work. This is what I do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I had to work.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I had to work, all right.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So it's saying five to seven times on this one
in their lifetimes before I could have sworn and said
like twenty, like twenty or more times. I did feel
like that was high. But it's saying five to seven
on this one regardless. It doesn't matter. The bottom line
is is that if you feel as though and you're
aware and you're inpowered to what what your situation offers you,
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then you take advantage of it. Right, And if I
can present something at one of these schools to start
getting guys to go there, then that's what you're going
to do, and it's going to help.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
You become a more competitive team. Like cash yeah, money yeah, girls,
you know, living facilities, food.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Are they starting to find out they're supplying girls school,
but no one's women.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's not on the books.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
You say that if you want to, for the sake
of I will definitely not on the books.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I did say they're traffic sound. Hey listen, I make
sure we're safe and sound to there long.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Before the transfer portal.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, but do those stories still Are they still necessary
with the money they're able to offer? Now, do you
really need all those other perks?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You don't? It's like, okay, so let's be clear. I
did not say they offer girls. Like, just so we're clear,
I did not say they offer girls. I said a campus,
may a campus has a lot to offer. And and
when you get there, like there are certain places where
you had been like I would have never thought about
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it that And there I go and you visit it.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
He got games all right, here you go and they
showed you.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yes, La Lav's World, Baby La La played a big
deal and and Rick Fox in that movie was a stone.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Here's the problem is like kids nowadays don't even know
what that movie is.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's weird. When you talk to college kids now and
the high school kids, I'm like, they don't know history,
like they don't know anything past like ten maybe fifteen
years ago. And it's sad though, because that's what I'm
saying is they don't care about it. And it's like, man, y'all,
you don't realize, like this is so cyclical, like everything
you think is happening in the world, it's like it's
it's happened in its own way in a different era,
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but it's happened, like we've gone through this before. Like
you can look at the cause and effect, you can
look at how it all worked out. But I want
to want to get on a tangent. What's what's interesting
to me about the whole college football world does when
you look at this, the next three weeks are going
to be wild. Like you look at the ACC right now.
I mean two weeks ago, Virginia was undefeated in conference play,
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Georgia Tech was undefeated in conference play. You now have
five teams Duke, SMU, Pitt, Virginia, Georgia Tech. There's gonna
be two of those five are gonna play for the
conference championship and a playoff spot, and they might not
get another team in besides who wins that game. So
a lot of drama that could ensue from there. The
AAC they have, in my opinion, they're the best conference
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in the group of six. Their conference champion is most
likely going to represent the group of six in the
College Football Playoff, depending on who wins. And you've got
East Carolina with only one loss, North Texas, Tulane, South Florida, Navy,
all those teams right now are biding for that position, which,
mind you, none of them are gonna be ranked at
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least I'm not sure if maybe North Texas would get
some votes coming into this week, But I look at
it now and just say, like, it's gonna be wild
to see down the stretch who can actually take it
over the Big Ten. It looks like Ohio State Indiana
are a collision, but everything everyone's looking forward to that matchup.
And then you look at Cincinnati BYU in Texas Tech.
Right now, all three of those schools have one loss
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in conference play, and you know there'll be some tie
breaking scenarios that play out, but there's still a lot
of football to be played. I think p YU played
Cincinnati not this upcoming week, but the following, so one
of those two teams will get knocked out and We'll
see how the rest of the conference fares, as we've
seen constant upsets in that conference. So I just I
love where college football is at. Although I do think that,
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and this might be a little controversial, if you had
a four team playoff, you probably would just you know,
be able to have those top four teams and there's
are the four best and those the four most deserved
to play off for it. Like like, I know we
want expansion, Like I want expansions just because I think
it's more fun for the fans. I think it's more
fun to be more inclusive, hot more teams as part
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of it. I don't know that we need it. I'm
just I'm being real with you. Like I think if
you had right now, I have State Indiana, Alabama and
uh Texas and m good, I'm good at Yeah. Well,
like I don't. I don't think you actually need to
throw in other teams. And that might have said Georgia
fans because they have one loss, and that might have
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some upset some other fan bases. But the reality is
like maybe in Texas Tech like sorry, like Senior in person,
like yeah, like your good football team and they're and
they're gonna have a chance to play for it. Well,
Joey MacGuire is going off on like independent schedules and stuff.
I'm like, dude, you guys don't play as difficult as
a schedule just because you're in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I mean, get it if you do think about it. Though,
in every sport there's you know, you have your playoff format,
but I think everybody, if we're being honest, looks at
it and goes. I mean, there's some teams that have
a legitimate shot and some teams that don't. What I
think is interesting about college football is that you mentioned
the parody and and how things have changed. Is it's
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not you know, a five a seven game format.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right, if you just series, not a five silliar series.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, if you just get a team who's having an
off day all of a sudden, you do have the
potential in a one off situation for an upset. So yeah,
the other eight teams in the playoff are just sort
of parting gifts like hey, great, great run. Probably not
a legitimate contender, but who knows. If you get somebody flat,
there could be an upset, and at least at least
it provides hope, Like it's fun, but I'm with you.
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I think you know, the top four teams are probably
the top four teams for a reason.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I'm okay with it being larger, though I push back
on y'all. I'm okay with it, but I understand where
you guys are coming from. And I would say the
reason why I would push back is because I do
think Cinderella story if one of those teams really did
heat up in that last playoff run, like if Boise
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State would have heated up and ended up playing and
winning it, like, I think it opens up the conversation
to a larger conversation of what.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Is what's next for college football?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
And I think that it builds It builds the potential
for more business, and it builds a business bigger because
you have a larger conversation because it's not just limited
to the three or four teams that that pretty much
do it every.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Year's right, That's what I would say.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I do believe there deserves to be a real Cinderella story.
Now do they have to make it into that top four?
Maybe that's what it is. But I think if you
have a larger field, you have the opportunity a better
opportunity for Cinderella team maybe to have a chance that
they might not have had, you know, in a different format.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, I think the hard part about that is it
only got more difficult with the changes they made this
offseason to the format, right, because you now don't get
those automatic buys to the four highest rank conference champions.
That's why Boise State got to buy. So they got
into that. You know, really, next.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Oh, you're talking about buys. No, I thought you were
talking about the whole field. You're not right, Okay, I
am talking about the whole field. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
They did away with the rule that allowed Boise State
to be in the position that they were in last year.
So they allow the College Football Playoff Committee now, regardless
of the whole conference champ and all that, just to
rank the four teams that they feel like are the
top four to get the buys. Mm hm, which is
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kind of why I think about it.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
It does.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
But at the same time, like, do you believe that
a team that you know, for example, let me just
play out this scenario, because they've understated o highest state
undefeated Indiana, should the loser of that game get a bye?
Because that's where it's heading, like let's say Indiana nat
off Ohio.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
State theory and theory yes, and theory yes, because if
they're one and two, who are you going to say
should be higher than a one and two team that
if one or two loss to one another, that the.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Question would be would you drop like Ohio to stay
from one to five or Indiana from two to five?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You can do it, right?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
How do you do it? But but then then it
begs this question, then why would you play any of
your players for that game? Like how meaningful is that
conference championship where you really could put Jeremiah Smith at
risk of injury, you win Santa risk of injury, all
these star studded players.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
If you've earned that game, the league does it.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
So maybe that's something that ends up If that's a
strategic move that you've earned because you don't lose, and
you're the number one, number two team and you're about
to play a number one, number two rated team. I mean,
you've put yourself in that position to do that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Do you think the do you think the voter right?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, I mean there's rewards to have another year
we don't lose.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
There is, But I think if you're basically saying, we
don't care about conference championships. Then you're getting to a
world where we probably don't need to have them, and
you'd rather make that the first round of the playoffs,
like the way I would.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I would love that. I would love that, And you
know why I would love that? Good go Fisher point good.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, I was just saying, but then what we do
is we would just use the regular season games to
determine who won. And maybe you get, you know, some
tie breaking scenarios where you've got teams that you know
ultimately share one or they win via a tiebreaker, but
you kind of get back to that world where it
still has some significance because you want the regular season
to have some significance. But if you're like sitting out
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players in a conference championship between number one and number two, yeah,
it literally goes against everything that's ever existed in.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Concha dig I could dig that, And what you just
said to me makes way more sense if you're talking
about what is the win in terms of if you
have a co champion and your conference, is that they
both have to be in the playoff. If one of
them were to make the playoff, then that becomes an issue.
But as long as both of those teams if they're
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co champs, like if it's Indiana who's number two, and
it's Ohio State that's number one, and they're co champs
based off of what the regular season holds, then great,
Because to me, it makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
It makes no sense to say, Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Ohio State wasn't even their conference champ, but they're the
national champ. It makes no sense to me, Like like
Oregon won won the Big Big Ten last year? Oh Oregon,
My Oregon. They came in their first year they win
the Big Ten? So what you didn't? A Big Ten
representative won it all?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Like, but that happens to the super Bowl. Teams win
their division they don't.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, but it just seems different to me in college.
It seems different, like the fact that a conference champion
in college can say, yeah, well we like, for instance,
I go back, which it's not where we're at in
that era of time anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
But I go back.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Penn State didn't even make it into the playoff one
year that they won the Big Ten, and a team
that didn't play in the championship game makes it into the.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Playoffs and they win.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It all like that's weird. Well, that's why I'm saying
there's the potential that you could get teams that don't
play in their conference championship weekend, but they get a buye.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah you know, I say just do away with the
conference championship outside of like you said, if there's a
tiebreaker or you're a co champ, I think that it
could play a part in and seeding, or it could
play a part in you making sure you're in the playoff.
You know, if you go undefeated or you have one
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loss in your conference and that one loss is to
the top team in your conference, then you put them
in accordingly.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
The problem is we could get into the weeds on
this because you could have a scenario where you have
a team that actually has only lost, you know, one game,
that plays for their conferencechampionship, but has multiple losses outside
of that. So, you know, again not to get too
much into the weeds. I mean, it's not a perfect format,
but like SMU is five and one in conference play,
but they've lost three games. Duke Douke actually be the
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better example. Their four and one in conference play and
they've they're five and four overall. So theoretically they could
actually end up playing off.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
For their compress. That's complete, that is complicated.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So that that's what I'm saying is you.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Should I guess for me, I'm just assuming you've handled
your business in out of conference games, but I guess
if you're playing a bigger game and then and then
there's the idea, like if you think about it, how
does that How does that shakeout for an independent like
Notre Dame?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
How does that shake out? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Like, again, it shakes out well either way because if
you really look at them, what you're grading on, what
teams get in the playoff, it's just off the regular
season schedule, which is no different like.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Exactly an independent. We should have stayed independent. We should
it never came to ten.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, and look, there might be more teams that become independent.
There's a lot of news right now around the.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
They don't have the well yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
No, Michigan and sc do have backing, but Michigan might
not be a part. They might not be a part
of the private equity deal that is on the table
right now, and there's a potential chance that the Big
Ten's going to sign it. Michigan and sc don't want
to be a part of it, and that could potentially
break off from their grand rights because it extends to
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twenty thirty six. So there's a lot of things that
could come into play out of what happens in that decision.
But again, we got to take a break.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well we did. We know there's two segments.
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the Washington Commanders in front of President Trump, all right,
who was on the call was on the call. He
was in the booth on Fox, you know, breaking down
the game and uh and talking Aman Ross Saint Brown
did the Trump Dance to him at some point during
that game, and it was just a total annihilation. The
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Lions looked really good. A story that kind of flew
under the radar though, as people know radar. Well, Dan
Campbell was calling plays and it's interesting because.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
We're annihilating Washington commanders.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So you know, John Morton, who was the first year
offensive coordinator, apparently Dan Campbell was not happy with the
way things were going. He decided to make the switch.
And Dan Campbell spoke about the switch afterwards.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You know, it was just let's let's try something a
little different, right, you know, and if I know what
I want to do, I know how I want to
do it. Now that being said, this is a collaborative effort, now,
I mean I was taking, you know, input from John
Morton that whole time and the other coaches.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So, hey, man, what do you think here? Third down?
All right?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
We get into this third and seven plus blah blah
blah blah blah, All right, where we at giving the
this is all encompassing. You know, we all worked together, coaches,
did a hell of a job. But I just wanted
to change it up a little bit. You know, let's
just see if maybe a different play caller can can
you know, maybe get us a little rhythm.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
That's all, And that's his that's his prerogative.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Okay, But like you basically cut John Morton's balls off.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
No, you did it. No, you did not. You didn't
cut it. You did it. I don't believe that that
does that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
We're ten weeks into the season. You've already taken the
job away from it. It's not like they're bad.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I don't think you've taken the job away from him.
You just it's a more collaborative effort, like he said,
it's it's more of a collaboration.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
As a head coach, you have the right to to
do that.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Like, yeah, and cut his balls off, like he said,
there's still call. He's still a part of the plays.
He's still the offensive coordinator. Did his title change, did
his paycheck change?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So he's not calling plays though he was called, but
he was calling plays and now he's not well.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And the truth of this, though is they probably always
were collaborative even when John Morten was calling the plays,
because that's how it usually works. Yeah, most play callers
take into consideration all of it. So I do I
do call in a question like all right? Then clearly
you want to put your own stamp on some of
the final decisions on what you were doing. And you
(32:00):
didn't like how the rhythm was with Morton, which is fine.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
That's more what it That's more what it is. I
don't think it's a ball chopping exercise. I just think
that maybe that's where he's at. But go at finish point.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But that's but that's Jonas. You know, Jonas wants to
castraight everyone it can geez, I uh well take it
away from me. Then I would say this, most most
play callers, they they don't know what their identity is
(32:31):
as a play caller, and until they until they actually
start calling plays. And what you end up finding out
is once you watch the tape, what's your true identity is?
You know how you really respond when your quarterback throws
a pick how or your running back fumbles? You know
how you respond if they're able to get pressure on
you multiple times? Like do you believe in the boys up?
Front to be able to hold up when you need
(32:51):
him to on third down and everyone knows you have
to throw in its third and a plus third and
seven plus. You know, you start to find those things
out about yourself as a play card. I don't know that,
you know, John Warnet had enough time to really call
plays to get a feel for that. But I think
I don't think Dan Campbell wanted to wait. I think
he's like, look, I know what our team is. I
(33:13):
know that the identity of our team. I've done this before.
I've done it for a while. Like I'd rather be
the one that ultimately has the final say because we're
right in the middle of the hunt for the division.
We're in the middle of the hunt for a playoff spot,
and I don't want games to slip away because I
feel like we're lacking finding a rhythm and I've got
the experience where I feel like I can get us
into one and clearly versus Washington they were able to
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do so.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Or he still had a red ass over that playoff
game against Washington last year and he wanted to make
a statement.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I mean, that's always possible as well.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
But again, just like he chose to call plays yesterday,
he could choose to go back to Oh see, it's
not like, oh, well, those balls is gone now, I
don't know we're going to do like No, it's not
that that doesn't work that way. It's a collaborative effort,
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meaning that I felt like we changed it up, needed
a little rhythm. I felt like I knew what I
wanted it to do. I took the information from him
the other guys that were involved, and this is what.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
We came up with.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It worked, like I'm pretty sure Andy Reid has done
that with his coordinators for a long time. Some guys
may call the game, you know, it might have been
Eric biene Me that was like, hey, these are the
plays we should call. Sometimes it was that Andy Reid said,
these are the plays we need to call. Whichever one
(34:36):
is finding the rhythm which you feel comfortable with doing
however it works.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
With the game plan.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
That's why you're a head coach, is to make decisions
that are ultimately going to lead to the success of
your team. You know, if somebody feels good about it,
you're feeling good about it. If it's not working, you
may want to You may get involved at halftime, you know,
like I'll take it from him. We'll go from here.
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
If you're tasked to make those decisions. Why'd you hire
him to be the play caller and then ten weeks
in you took it away from him. He cut his
balls off and threw it out the car windows.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
What happened? Geez?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I don't see it being that extreme. I just think
that this is what they had. This was the situation.
It worked, like having humility, being a good team player,
being able to work together well with others. Those are
the things. Those are the characteristics that play out for
successful teams, and no matter what the industry is, and
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I don't think that there should be this crazy approach
to ego in this type of circumstance. In fact, I
don't think it needs to be that large of a
conversation as it applies to him making that move the
way that he did it was a successful move. Sometimes
it isn't. Now I think it's more of a conversation
(35:57):
if you did it and it didn't work, because now
it's like, all right, what do you do? You felt
like we needed to change up, You changed it up
and you didn't win. Like, now that's a conversation. But
as far as what they did yesterday and how impressive
that victory was, I don't think that that turns into
a major conversation based off of the results. So he
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gets to walk forward and say, hey, we needed to
change up. That's what we did. Look at what our
results were. And the offensive coordinator, his balls are very
well intact.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
He's good to go.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
He's still to OC and maybe it's back to him
being the guy that calls the plays until he won. Listen,
I've done that before. I've done that before. Like I
was watching to get oh yeah, I took the play
calling duties for off of the offensive coordinator during the game.
Absolutely shouts out to my man Dean, great great coach,
great offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Like we talked about what we saw during the.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Course of the game and the headphones, what we're like,
what coverages they're running, you know, who's their best players,
like where are our matchups and stuff like that, and
you know, with the information that we had, I was
thinking of plays. The plays I were hearing weren't matching
the sets that I thought we could have success with.
So I said, let me take it. I'll take it
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from here. Like I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Your guys' relationship was never the same after that.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I mean, you know what I did. He did go
to a different school after.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
He did go to a different school after that season.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
But we did make it to the playoffs and we
only lost one game after I did stay to play caller.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I just took him over for that game. That was all,
you know. He was trying to throw the ball way
too much. Man.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
We needed like, like, listen, the run is there, Like
we got it, Like the run is there, We got
to do it. Like he kept throwing. I was like,
all right, let me take it from here. We did
end up winning the game too well.
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I will say, show you guys. I was sitting outside
at the fire pit all day. I was challenged to
make a fire yesterday. I was being made fun of, ridiculed,
even laughed at, and my fire turned out to be
an amazing fire. I still got my East Coast you know,
(39:20):
country boy, city boy type of approach. I could survive
in the wild. Well yeah, because I got country and city.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Men two sticks together? How do you make the fire?
Speaker 4 (39:30):
There's a little fusion there. I can give you my secrets.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Did you use pine cones?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I did not. I did not.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
I did find a nice amount of brush that was
dry because it had been raining. But nonetheless I created
a nice fire. And here's what what what? While I'm
watching the fly fire, thank you, I see a guy
go down.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
He's like digging, he's moving things. I'm like, what is
this guy doing? Next? Thing? You know?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I see him walking down with a lifeless dog like
was big. Yeah, so he ended up like he ended
up burying his dog. I told Trish, I want to
go investigate and see if it was like natural causes.
I want to like actually do an analysis.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
On the top of see yeah, on the dog.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So, see, do you think he killed the dog? I mean,
I don't just carrying like that.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I don't know him, so I don't know, but he
was carrying that life was dog to go burial.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
That's what I do now, bro, That is an ir right.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
I mean how many times do you sit out and
enjoy your fire and see somebody walk by with, like,
you know, a dog to go burial?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Did riverside carrying that dead dog.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
And then I heard the other dog that that apparently
they had multiple dogs.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
That dog was barking so hard.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Put that down.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
He knew what was going on. He knew that was
the final flight.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Can I put that down?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
I put that down. Dang