November 10, 2025 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about Aaron Rodgers looking tired and skittish in a loss for the Steelers against the Chargers, Dan Campbell taking over play-calling duties from OC John Morton, Pete Prisco joins the show to talk all things NFL, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar airings, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't want to be disrespectful because he's a Hall
of Famer, but it looks like Aaron.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Rodgers is scared to get tired, tired.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Like it looks like he's afraid.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
I said this to you guys last week.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He's tired.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Yeah, I said this to you guys last week. And
it's tough watching their offense because it looks like he
gets the shotguns snap and he's getting ball his hands
so as he can, and it's like, okay, like you've
got a seven man protection, you can hold onto it.
A little bit like what was the point of getting
DK Metcalf And you know, going to a team with
guys who got speed if you're not going to utilize them.
(00:51):
But his time to throw was tied for the fastest
in the league entering into this week, so clearly he's
consciously trying to get the ball out of his hand
quick and look and at the end of his career,
Tom Brady was doing something very similar to Tampa. If
you look at that same time to throw stat you
can find on next gen NFL next gen stats, you'll
find it. But the difference was they were putting up
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yards like they had production he'd won a super Bowl.
This feels different, Like to the point you're making Jonas
watching him, it's it almost feels like he does want
to get touched.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I mean well and even like the offensive lineman the
reaction to him jumping on his back and all that, like, yeah, right,
you know, I get it, Like I'm forty one. I
think he's forty one.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Probably hurt, but like.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Tom Brady was forty five, dude, Like what are we
talking about here, Like forty four to forty five at
the end of his career, probably was still going up
head button dudes.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It probably still it hurt Tom too. It probably hurts.
But if you remember, you know, them hurts hurt way
longer to older you get you know, yeah, you remember
it way longer.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Tom Brady's final year, there wasn't like a significant drop off,
like there was still talks that man, we could like
if you wanted to, you can make an argument for it,
because I think Aaron Rodgers ironically did win the MVP
that year, But there was talks that man, look at
the year, Brady ad it's not like he's really lost
that much off the fastball, so to speak. But Rogers
looks like, yeah, it's just not I don't I don't know,
(02:17):
like I and I don't like saying that because I
don't like seeing the great look the way they look
towards the end from time to time. But he just
seems like he like he wants that ball out as
fast as humanly possible so he can avoid any contact whatsoever.
And maybe it's just he's trying to play the long game,
but it just last night was ugly. Man, that did
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not look good.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't know that it was a good game for
either one. I mean, they they you know, the Chargers
ended up pulling away, you know, in the end. But
I don't know how I phil about the Chargers either.
I don't know that we were looking at like two
good teams. I think we were looking at two teams
that had winning a record. Damn, I don't know, That's
(03:02):
what I and and I just asked myself. I'm like,
I don't know what our picks were like because I
don't be logging it and I don't remember. But in
my mind. Did I go into this game with confidence
that Pittsburgh I felt like Pittsburgh money line? Money line?
I thought so, and they it wasn't out for me. Well,
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I mean it was an underdog's week. I don't you know.
You guys had a good week.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You actually picked you actually picked multiple favorites. We picked
a lot of underdogs. You picked multiple favorites and ended
up being underdog week.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It was underdog's week. Man, I don't like the Saints. Like,
what was that?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Did we all Steelers money line?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We did? LaVar is? Oh and five by the way
on the week? Yeah, well I'll take and five. I'm
on the right side of that and five. Wait really,
because if you would have put a gun to my
head and said, damn, make your pick or die, those
would have been the picks that I would have gave you,
and you know what, I would have lived. But I
just have to accept the fact that, you know what,
(04:08):
they weren't good enough on Sunday. They were the right picks.
They just didn't play the right football.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's right, Yeah, that is that's the Prisco approach. There
you goat has anybody ever.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Gone over in our picks? I don't think they have.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I have to look through it. Uh, so you have
to give me a second research. I don't know that
we've got an o fer. We've had a decent amount
of one firs, which you have done multiple times. I
don't think I could.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Or not.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But how many y'all get? How many y'all get? Right?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Jonas is three and three. I am four and three mm.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's whack gone.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
LaVar has gone six and oh eight and o like
he's hit some some big time weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Because I call it the right way when we call it, well, no,
it still was called the right way. It's just that
the teams didn't do what they were supposed to do.
That's all. You can't. You can't. You cannot predict. You
can predict a ball on a on a tilted, tilted
till plane is either.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Like a home run or striking out like that's but
no one's gone over in fact, only or only.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
When you put the mouse on, their science goes out
the door. I can't predict what the mouse will do.
I can predict what the ball will do by its weight,
get that the level of the incline, you know the
surface that it's rolling on. But you cannot predict with
science what the mouse will do, and picking games is
like trying to figure out where and how and how
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quickly will the mouse get to from point A to
point B. It may never get the point be That's
what happened yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Just ask for help.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
From some of the Cleveland Guardians pitching staff, and they
could probably help you out with some of this gambling
stuff based on how that.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, thanks, we're gonna get into that now wait till.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The later on.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean what I've read it didn't like it was
much money. That was kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I just don't understand how gambling just continues to
be the thing that pops up. Like I feel like
the penalties should be harsher the further out we get
from the first dummy that did it, Like if you're
if your dummy number one is like look at me,
like look at the dummy. Here's your example. That's a dummy.
(06:36):
Stop doing this, all right. The further we get out
and we're years out from the first dummies, you should
get the harsher penalties. I'm sorry, Like it should get
worse by by the day, by the day, because it's
gonna there's going to come a point in time where
something that hits it's like, I don't feel like the
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collective aspect of it, like all of it being collected
together is going to be the reason why it becomes
a real like detriment. But it's going to be something
like this basketball one, its latest basketball one is it's
it's it's kind of like that one. That one kind
of hurts. But I just feel like there's going to
be somebody that gets caught up and it's going to
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be like, all right, enough is enough. And I don't
know who that is. I don't know when that is.
I just don't understand why you would be okay being
that person doesn't make sense, man.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Big big picture. Back to the Sunday football game. Yeah,
the Steelers now at five and four, the Ravens with
a win this week, here they come like here they come,
just roaring back to try to get on top the
AFC North, and it does feel like, you know, we're
now at that point where you know, we're over halfway
through the season and it feels like the Steelers is
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just slipping through their hands. Like I don't know, if
you look at their schedule, how many more games you
want to factor in. And I think the other like
high level takeaway from yesterday was going to be the
Bills and what the hell was that that sort of
collapse versus Miami. And maybe we chalk it up to
the divisional opponents knowing each other well, But you don't
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see the Bills very often lay an egg. And that's
one of those that makes you scratch your head and go,
all right, maybe they're not going to win the division, like,
maybe they're not going to be one of those top seeds,
and maybe it is going to be the Patriots. You know,
there's a lot of doubters before the season who were
doubting the Patriots, and I think that's changed. I think
that's changed for a lot of those doubters.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And also, the AFC North is only going to get
one in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It feels like without if you look around it, it'll be
the division winner. Whoever wins that division.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Will get in.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The wild card spots are going to be gobbled up.
And there is and we talked about this a little
bit last week, that there is a world in which
the wild card teams are going to be Buffalo, Kansas City,
and Baltimore, which would be a nightmare scenario for anybody
hosting a playoff game early on. So, yeah, it just
feels like last night and the way Baltimore's playing like
(09:06):
it did seem weird that Baltimore was a four and
a half point favorite at Minnesota, and it's like, well,
and then you looked early on in the game, it
just wasn't It wasn't going.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All that well.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And then ultimately, you know, time ticks off, they run
away with it. Pittsburgh looks awful, and next thing you know,
the Ravens are making a run rough.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Here's their schedule the rest of the season. They host Cincinnati,
so they I mean, I wouldn't say that's a gimme
the way they're playing right now. I mean I would
say Cincinnati's got a more prolific passing attack with forty
year old Flacco than the Steelers do it with Rogers. Yeah,
they go to Chicago, probably will win, depending on who
you ask. The Bills they get the host at home,
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then they still have their two games versus Baltimore in
the division, so they have to go at Baltimore week fourteen.
Miami doesn't seem to be giving up. You're at Detroit,
and then at Cleveland, which at least has a good defense,
you can say. And then they finished the season week
A T versus Baltimore, which very likely before that one
playoff spot you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Let me see what the odds to make the playoffs
are from from either side or just I mean, if
we think that they're just going to be one team
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Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, Brady, you're you're pretty good at this. You
want to guess who the favorite is to win the
AFC North right now?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And what the line?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's definitely Baltimore, do you I would say? It's is
it plus money or is it almost had even money?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, it's definitely not plus money, like definitely really yeah,
definitely already yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
So what is it like minus one fifty ravens.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Hmmm, a little higher?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh wow, Baltimore is a minus two to ninety on
draft games to win the division.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Like there's uh, I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Why wouldn't they be the Browns stink? They they are
quietly one of the funkiest, funk funk stink teams in
the league.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Let me, let me, let me give you a stat
that really speaks to what just happened this past week.
I think they're the first team since they've been tracking
this in NFL history, that's held an opposing offense to
under one hundred and seventy total yards.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's crazy and lost the game. Yeah, they're good on defense.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Hey, look, Miles Garrett signed up for this. Sorry, he
was talking about super Bowls in the offseason. Then all
of a sudden, they threw a big check at him
and he said, you know what, that's not so bad here.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Hey, but hey, he is a Cleveland Brown And at
the end of the day, when you throw that type
of scratch somebody's way, I'll get over it. Yeah, Like what,
I don't want to live this way. I don't want
to be a loser. I don't want to be considered
to be a loser. But I'll get over it. I mean,
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what's the alternative, Like, go somewhere well, he would have
went somewhere else and got more money to get you
get gat money either way, but they stink. I don't know,
like it's a rat for Stefanski. I know, I know
it might not sound like like the popular thing to say,
but it's a rat like Cleveland Brown blow it up.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Here's all I ask you, guys. Did you guys see
how that game ended?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I did not. I did.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's fourth and four, the Jets have the ball, Browns
have a chance to get the football back down one
score and you can see Defanski push up the microphone
on his headset and he's yelling out like don't jump.
They're not throwing up, don't jump, jump and some moron,
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I forget who was it was. I forget who was
on there or in their D line, but he jumps
and and they they panned back to Stefanski and he
just he just shakes his head and he takes his
head set off, and I don't know exactly what was said,
but you could imagine the frustration of like that they
were never going to run a play. All they were
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doing were trying to get anyone on the defense to
jump off sides and Aaron Glenn celebrating. I mean, it
was like, again, just celebrating a birthday. And I don't
sit there and watching this going I feel bad for Stefanski,
but I really do because in that moment, you know,
I'm every single their defensive lineman. By the way, let's
looked over at him like you idiot, I can't believe
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you just did that. So again, you know, will he
potentially be out at the end of the season. Maybe,
but at some point these players got to start being
accountable for what they're putting out there. And and I'll
say this too, I think Schudor is gonna get a
shot soon because that was it was tough. I mean,
some of the you know, Dylan Gabriel struggle and I
know he's a rookie and I don't want to be
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too hard on him because you know, again there's there's
gonna be those growing pains. But man, there's just there's
just too many plays that are there to be made
and it is not worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I believe it was Cameron Thomas number ninety Thomas who
jumped in that spot, by the.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Way, you know, white guy. You know, I just didn't
think that'd be more discipline than that. You know, well,
the scouting report. I looked up the draft profile. It's
good technique, high motor discipline. Yeah, you know, high football
I Q. You know that's what That's what I said.
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It was coming out of San Diego State four years ago.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Sounds very Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'm just telling you what that was his that was
his draft prospect report. You know, you know, limited athlete,
but you know, smart football player, good technique, high motor,
brings his lunch pill to work.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I was like, well, then, sound like a guy who
would jump off sides in the one moment where you
know they're not going to run a play.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
By the way, speaking of San.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Diego, they better run a twenty three and.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Meter on him.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
He might have he might have something. Then there you know,
like what you go far enough back, you know. I mean,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's why he jumped off side and he's not not
legit twenty twenty three and me uh and speaking of
San Diego State, they got that work from Hawaii this weekend,
so maybe he was a little bit a little bit
shook up after that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Maybe that's why he jumped off side.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So there you go.
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and coming away. So, uh, yesterday the Detroit Lions annihilated
the Washington Commanders in front of President Trump all right,
who was on the call, was on the call.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
He was in the booth on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know, breaking down the game and uh and talking
Alman Ross. Saint Brown did the Trump Dance to him
at some point during that game, and it was just
a total annihilation. The Lions looked really good. A story
that kind of flew under the radar.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Though, as people know, flew under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, Dan Campbell was calling plays and it's interesting because.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They were annihilating the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So, you know, John Morton, who was the first year
offensive coordinator, apparently Dan Campbell was not happy with the
way things were going. He decided to make the switch.
And Dan Campbell spoke about the switch afterwards.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
You know, it was just let's let's try something a
little different, right, you know, and if I know what
I want to do, I know how I want to
do it. Now that being said, this is a collaborative effort. Now,
I mean I was taking you know, input from John
Morton that whole time and the other coaches. So hey, man,
what do you think here? Third down?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
We get into this third.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And seven plus blah blah blah blah blah, All right,
where are we at?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Give me to This is all encompassing, you know, man,
we all worked together. Coaches did a hell of a job.
But I just wanted to change it up a little bit.
You know, Let's just see if maybe a different play
caller can can you know, maybe get us a little rhythm.
That's all.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And that's his that's his prerogative.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Okay, but like you basically cut John Morton's balls off.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
No, you did it. No, you did not. You didn't
cut it. You did it. I don't believe that does that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We're ten weeks into the season. You've already taken the
job away from it. It's not like they're bad.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't think you've taken the job away from him.
You just it's a more collaborative effort, like he said,
it's it's more of a collaboration. As a head coach.
You have the right to to do that, like, yeah,
and cut his balls off, like he said, there's still call.
He's still a part of the plays. He's still the
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offensive coordinator. Did his title change, did his paycheck change?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He's not calling plays though he was called, but he
was calling plays and now he's not well.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
And then the truth of this, though, is they probably
always were collaborative, even when John Morton was calling the plays,
because that's how it usually works. Yeah, most play callers
take into consideration all of it. So I do I
do call into question, Like, all right, then, clearly you
want to put your own stamp on some of the
final decisions on what you were doing and you didn't
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like how the rhythm was with Morton, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's more what it That's more what it is. I
don't think it's a ball chopping exercise. I just think
that maybe that's where he's at. But go at finish point.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
But that's but that's Jonas. You know Jonas wants to
castraight everyone it can geez, I uh, well take it
away from me. Then I would say this, most most
play callers, they they don't know what their identity is
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as a play caller until they until they actually start
calling plays. And what you end up finding out is
once you watch the tape, what's your true identity is?
You know how you really respond when your quarterback throws
a pick how or your running back fumbles? You know
how you respond if they're able to get pressure on
you multiple times, like do you believe in the boys
up front to be able to hold up when you
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need him to on third down and everyone knows you
have to throw in its third and a plus third
and seven plus. You know, you start to find those
things out about yourself as a play card. I don't
know that you know, John Warnet had enough time to
really call plays to get a feel for that. But
I think I don't think Dan Campbell wanted to wait.
I think he's like, look, I know what our team is.
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I know that the identity of our team. I've done
this before. I've done it for a while. Like I'd
rather be the one that ultimately has the final say
because we're right in the middle of the hunt for
the division. We're in the middle of the hunt for
a playoff spot, and I don't want games to slip
away because I feel like we're lacking finding a rhythm
and I've got the experience where I feel like I
can get us into one and clearly versus Washington, they
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were able to do so.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Or he still had a red ass over that playoff
game against Washington last year and he wanted to make
a statement.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I mean, that's always possible as well. But again, just
like he chose to call plays yesterday, he could choose
to go back to to oh see, it's not like, oh, well,
those balls is gone now, I don't know what we're
going to do. Like, no, it's not that that doesn't
work that way. It's a collaborative effort, meaning that I
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felt like we changed it up, needed a little rhythm.
I felt like I knew what I wanted it to do.
I took the information from him the other guys that
were involved, and this is what we came up with.
It worked. Like I'm pretty sure Andy Reid has done
that with his coordinators for a long time. Some guys
may call the game, you know. It might have been
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Eric biene Me that was like, hey, these are the
plays we should call. Sometimes it was that Andy Reid said,
these are the plays we need to call. Whichever one
is finding the rhythm which you feel comfortable with doing.
However it works with the game plan. That's why you're
a head coach, is to make decisions that are ultimately
going to lead to the success of your team. You know,
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if somebody feels good about it, you're feeling good about it.
If it's not working, you may want to You may
get involved that halftime, you know, like I'll take it
from here, like we'll go from here. You know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
If you're tasked to make those decisions. Why'd you hire
him to be the play caller and then ten weeks
in you took it away from him. He cut his
balls off and threw it out the car windows.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
What happened, sheez. I don't see it being that extreme.
I just think that this is what they had, This
was the situation. It worked, like having humility, being a
good team player, being able to work together well with others.
Those are the things. Those are the characteristics that play
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out for successful teams, and no matter what the industry is,
and I don't think that there should be this crazy
approach to ego in this type of circumstance. In fact,
I don't think it needs to be that large of
a conversation as it applies to him making that move
the way that he did. It was a successful move.
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Sometimes it isn't. Now I think it's or of a
conversation if you did it and it didn't work, because
now it's like, all right, what do you do? You
felt like we needed to change up. You changed it
up and you didn't win. Like, now, that's a conversation.
But as far as what they did yesterday and how
impressive that victory was, I don't think that that turns
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into a major conversation based off of the results. So
he gets to walk forward and say, hey, we needed
to change up. That's what we did. Look at what
our results were. And the offensive coordinator. His balls are
very well intact. He's good to go. He's still to
OC and maybe it's back to him being the guy
that calls the plays until he won. Listen, I've done
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that before. I've done that before. Like I was watching
to get oh yeah, I took to play calling duties
from off of the offensive coordinator during the game. Absolutely
shouts out to my man Dean, great great coach, great
offensive coordinator. Like we talked about what we saw during
the course of the game and the headphones, what we're like,
what coverages they're running, you know, who's there best players, Like,
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where are our matchups and stuff like that, and you know,
with the information that we had, I was thinking of plays.
The plays I were hearing weren't matching the sets that
I thought we could have success with. So I said,
let me take it. I'll take it from here, like
I'll take.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
It your guys. Relationship was never the same after that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I mean, you know what I did. He did go
to a different school after He did go to a
different school after that season, But we did make it
to the playoffs and we only lost one game. After
I did stay to play caller. I just took him
over for that game. That was all. You know. He
was trying to throw the ball way too much.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
We needed like like listen, the run is there, Like
we got it, Like the run is there, we gotta
do it. Like he kept throwing. I was like, all right,
let me take it from here. We did end up
winning the game.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
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Speaker 3 (25:01):
I can hear Pete, Like in my mind, I get
a mental image of Pete Prisco playing the saxophone in
this this smooth Operator. So yeah, I don't know why.
I guess it's been connected to him so much coming
into the show. I can see him in my head
playing a saxophone. Can you play saxophone? Pete?
Speaker 6 (25:20):
What do you think? I'm Kenny g No, I.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Ain't gonna go that far. I ain't gonna you've played.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't played an instrument in my
entire life.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, but you probably put some Kenny gr while you're
getting to be a smooth operator.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
WHOA No, but I'll tell you this if I if
I was ever to play an instrument, I would be
a drummer.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Okay, why is that, Pete?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
You can take on aggression on that damn thing. You can.
That's why I would be a drummer.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
They call you little drummer, the drum What would.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
You I'd love to hear what instrument you would play?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know what's interesting, Pete. I played the clarinet as
a first instrument and was pretty good at it. And
then I played every saxophone all the way up until
the ninth grade. Uh, the alto sacks, the sax and
the baritone sacks, and actually was going to try to
I was going I was trying to figure out how
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I could be in the marching band and play football
at the same time. But I ended up choosing football.
So wow, that's a true store.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
So a dork and an athlete on one who knew.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Don't tell anybody, Pete, damn tell that for that. Oh No,
I was third seat. I wasn't I wasn't first seat.
I wasn't that good, but I was third seat. Now.
I was best with the baritone, like the big one.
I was really good played in the symphony like played
in a show.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
So wow, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Interesting trivia levard told me he plays the pocket flew best.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There you go. I mean generally I keep the flute
in the pocket. So ap.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Pete, what happened to your jaguars yesterday?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
They're not my jaguars. But that's one of the great
chokes in the history of football. I mean, my god. Up,
you're up nineteen in the fourth quarter against Davis Mills
and you can't hold that lead. I mean, my god,
it's a terrible, terrible loss. And they got a lot
of issues. They can't rush the passer. I mean they
put a lot of money and assets into that pass rush.
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They paid Josh heinz Allen, they drafted Javon Walker first overall.
And they can't get to the quarterback with four man pressure.
And when they blitzed, they have nobody in the back
end who can cover her. So it's a bad combination.
And Trevor Lawrens is't playing very well and you've got
major questions about him. Now does he process past enough,
does he get the ball out? Does he hold the ball?
It wasn't on him. He didn't lose that game. When
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you're up nineteen to the fourth quarter. You're supposed to
win that game, so they have issues, and that was
a game. If you win that, you're six and three
and you're sitting there saying, Okay, they can win, you know,
for the next seven games and become a playoff team.
Well now all of a sudden you're looking at it
and saying, well, probably not because they're not very good.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
On that note, did you think that maybe they should
have at least attempted the field goal? I think it
would have been like a seventy five yarder or something.
But was there ever a thought on that drive? Like
I kind of didn't like how they had called that.
Just the entire thing, even like the was a scramble
or sack that ended up Trevor want and I've taken it.
Just the whole thing down the stretch just seemed a
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little discombobulated.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
But did you think they should They would have had
a sixty yard field goal, remember, but then they had
to play callback for a hands to the face.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right the play before that, where I was kind of thinking,
like I, they're trying to get too much on one
of those plays instead of trying to get like a
quick five ten yards and just kick the field goal
like that kid showed he's got the leg to do it.
He's made one from seventy before, granted preseason.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But still, Brady, they were they couldn't. It would have
been like an eighty yarder. They weren't going to be
able to do that. I mean, if you know, look,
he scrambled to get what twenty something yards to get
it to play, and he threw that shot to the
sideline and he caught it and they got called back
for Hanson face.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And an alien seven seconds left, right, what we're saying
play on that final play though, they should have went
quick to the out of bounds, right, because you'll have
seven seconds. It's either going to be a hell Mary
from where they were or a quick out of bounds
and then you set up the field goal. And it
feels like they did kind of neither in that case.
But that being said, the fact that Houston kept playing
Manda Man down the stretch there and like they gave
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up obviously that run playing like one robber. I'm sitting
there going what are you doing? I mean, it was
almost a dramatic collapse by Houston. If jacksonvill would have
turn around to won that base in their defense. I
want to transition that game anyway, because it wasn't great. Buffalo,
What the hell happened to your bills yesterday?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Dang, you're jack wing your bills Prisco, Well that was
that was a.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Terrible defensive showing. And if they don't stop the run
any better than they've been doing, it doesn't matter what
they do on offense or what they do anywhere else,
because the teams will just gash them. I mean, two
hundred yards rushing from Miami. It can't happen. And it's
been on going problem. They give up the third most
yards in the league on the ground and it's been
it seems to have been an issue for a long
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long time now. They tried the trade for Quinn Williams.
The Jets wouldn't trade inside the division with them, so
they clearly know they have a problem there. And again, though, Brady,
in this league, we saw a couple we thought last
week with Green Bay losing to Carolina after they beat
the Steelers on the road, and you guys played the game.
Why is it so damn hard to get up two
weeks in a row? Why is that a problem? I
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don't I don't understand that for the.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Life of me, because the margins aren't as big as
you think. The margins between the best and the next
guy aren't as big as you and everyone else on
the outside things.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I agree with you. I agree with you, they're not
that different.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You don't know, Pete. You can't handle the truth, Pete.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I know the margins aren't that great. But why is
it that you can be what you are one week
and then what you're not the next week. That's why
what you are no go play.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I think the difference we've talked about this for the
difference to me has always been the floor of the
best is so much higher than the next guy. And
I think the problem is sometimes you get that next
guy playing at his best, and you get a guy
who's one of the best in the league playing at
his floor, and sometimes the lesser guy wins out. You know,
I think that's what you see sometimes, Like you, you
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do this whole. You are what you are. The problem
is for most players, they're not as consistent as the
very best, and so that's what you see as you
see these outlier games where guys play up to their ability.
They just can't play up to that as consistently well
as some of the best players, if that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah, but there's gotta be more to it. I mean,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Maybe it's retrograde or something like that that plays a
part and why guys are different from time to time.
Like it could be the gravitational pool. Some people may
be on their time, It could be you know, it
could this could be anything and everything that could be.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Or you get anybody ever put that one out there.
You're just not as focused in here, lazy in a
game like that. You're not as focused as you are.
Nobody ever puts that one out there. Well, that's the
reality of it. If and ultimately it falls at the
foot of the coach. If your team isn't ready to
play against a bad team and you lose that game,
that's on you. It's on the coach and it's on
the players. It just doesn't make sense to me. You're
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not supposed to lose those games in Buffalo was exhibit A,
and Green Bay was exhibit B last week when they
lost it home to that crappy Carolina team.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
You know, Pete, I'm a bird watcher from time to time,
and every once in a while, I'll see a woodpecker
like maybe you know, going after it, and I'm like, man,
look at the way that woodpecker is pecking that wood,
and you know what, the results are good and it
looks good and the whole looks good, and it's like, dang,
that woodpecker is pecking that wood. Right then you see
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another one is like that woodpecker is pecking, but that
wood isn't getting pecked the way I saw that other
wood pecker pecking that wood. But they're both woodpeckers beat
And you know what it was because it was a
different tree. So maybe it's just the team that they're
playing against, like something was different about the team they
were playing.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Pete, I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Going, is that still a woodpecker?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
How much? How much good would wood could a woodpecker
pack of the woodpecker? Would? I mean? Is that what
that was? What were you doing? Where were you going
with that? That one?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Hey, we could add, but I'm just telling you, Pete,
it just could be as simple as it was a
different team so you got different results. It doesn't mean
that it isn't the same player. They're the same player.
It's just that you were pecking on a different tree.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's all, Pete. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We thought that was pretty good. Guys, Pete, we.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Were talking about this earlier. I'm curious what your thoughts
are on this. When you watch Aaron Rodgers last night,
what do you see?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
It? Ish jumpy old quarterback, That's what I saw. It
didn't look like him. And that, by the way, that
was the first game where he really looked like that.
He looked disjointed, he looked like he was sped up.
He looked like he was missing throws. He looked frustrated
a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Where his ies coming down, Pete, Yeah, his.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Ice came down, of course they did. You saw that
one throw on the goal line where he had he
clearly chucked and duck on the one throw. I mean yeah,
his eyes came down. So it was a fair performance.
And it's weird. The Steelers good on offense for a while,
and then they were horrible on defense, And now the
defense started to play better, and now they're starting to
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get worse on offense. Like it's hard to figure that
team out. It really is.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I was gonna jump out and just ask you about
Jackson Dart fourth time. He's a bit evaluated for a concussion.
I mean, it feels like if he continues to play
this way, he's not gonna going to last for long.
Is that fair to say? From what you've seen.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Absolutely, he's reckless. He can't be reckless and play that position,
and it's got to be he's got to rein it in.
And by the way, ready, that one came in the pocket.
I mean, it wasn't like he was running on that one.
He got blasted inside the pocket. But what he was
doing was trying to stay alive. And you know, you
played the position at some point, you just going down.
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You know, you can't stay alive. You're not going to
break every tackle. They're grown men. You're not gonna get
out of five tackles all the time. So it's time
to go down. And he took that late, that shot
late in that whole process. So, yeah, he's reckless and
you can't play that way. It looks it's fun to watch,
it's fun to scheme up stuff with him to be
able to run the ball, but as you know, there's
some nasty, violent people on the other side of the
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ball that want to take your head off. You have
to be able to stand.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
One, Yeah, right, he was one two for sure, one two,
three four and get the ball out and then if
you got to check it down, you check it down.
A checkdown is always better than your quarterback getting outside
the pocket and being reckless. So I'm with you one
hundred percent. He can't he cannot have sustainable success playing
that position the way he's playing it right now.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
What about brisket Persette? You know everybody's trying to get
rid of Calum Murray for brisket. What would your take
on that? I mean, do you now reconsider bringing Kyler
Murray back over having brisket? Like?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Are we going he's out for a while?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Are we going turf? Like? What are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Well, they said he's out for a while. Now you
know the soft benching, They make it look like you're hurt.
That's what that was. And look, Jacoby Brissette, please, you
are what you are. Come high.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He's a backup?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
But we serious? Are we serious? With the look? Kyler
Murray is probably not the answer in Arizona either have
been very good, but we're not serious about Jacoby Brissett?
Or are we's a nice backup? You come in, you
do some good things and then all of a sudden,
it's levels off like it always does when you're a
backup quarterback, And so the reality is he's not the answer.
But they have a big decision to make on Kyler Murray.
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I don't think there's any doubt about that. Who do
you think is better Kyler Murray?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of course he is, but it doesn't sound like they
want him back.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Nobody who's making the Who's that making the noise that
you bring? Okay, what do you think? Who do you
think is better?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I mean again, I think Kyler Murray when healthy, adds
a different element that Brissette doesn't. But I do think
Brissett is he's been able to kind of hold his
own from the pocket. But I think again, if you're
devising an offense for Caler Murray when's one hundred percent,
he's just got more dynamic ability to do more. But
I don't think the margin again is as big as
people think it is.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, he held his own in the pocket yesterday, but
turning it over for two touchdowns for Demark Lawrence, I
mean you're using.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
A one game sample size. He he actually he actually
cowboy well hold on for a second in his career
because he qualified now for it. He actually had I
think coming into this past week the best like interception percentage,
like what the lowest in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Do you even know that?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Yes? Or you can. You can take all those stats
and twist them in where you want.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
There's no stats in twisting he was. He was at
one point three percent. Rogers was at like one point
four percent for his career. So I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He information, Pete. I don't use that information against you.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Do your eyes tell you he's a good quarterback? Yes?
Or no?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I think when he's got some help around him, Like
does it matter right now? Who's that quarterback for them?
Do you feel like that's a good offense?
Speaker 6 (38:24):
No? I do not.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
I do not, But I don't. I don't think he's
a good quarterback, and I don't think he's ever been
to a quarterback. I think he's a back quarter.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
I think in the I think in the right situation
and circumstance, he's he's gonna be able to play it.
He's gonna be able to to have, you know, a
successful career without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Let me ask you something, do you know how many teams.
He's been on, he's.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Been a lot, but he's also been on and viewed
as a backup like you do.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
So I mean he's a backup. He's a backup quarterback.
That's what he is. And look, he's a good backup.
It's nice to have a good backup. It's an okay job,
it's a great in fact, it's a great job. But
that's what you are. You're a backup quarterback. Anybody who
thinks Jacobe Presaid is a consistent started quarterback in the
NFL is way off base.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You said the same thing about Sam Darnold. You said
the same thing about others that have proven you wrong.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Pete, eat it there, pe.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
I don't want to be disrespectful because he's a Hall
of Famer, but it looks like Aaron.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Rodgers is scared to get tired, tired.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Like it looks like he's afraid.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
I said this to you guys last week.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He's tired.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Yeah, I said this to you guys last week. And
it's tough watching their offense because it looks like he
gets the shotguns snap and he's getting ball his hands
so as he can, and it's like, okay, like you've
got a seven man protection, you can hold onto it.
A little bit like what was the point of getting
DK Metcalf And you know, going to a team with
guys who got speed if you're not going to utilize them.
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But his time to throw was tied for the fastest
in the league entering into this week, so clearly he's
consciously trying to get the ball out of his hand
quick and look and at the end of his career,
Tom Brady was doing something very similar to Tampa. If
you look at that same time to throw stat you
can find on next gen NFL next gen stats, you'll
find it. But the difference was they were putting up
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yards like they had production he'd won a super Bowl.
This feels different, Like to the point you're making Jonas
watching him, it's it almost feels like he does want
to get touched.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I mean well and even like the offensive lineman the
reaction to him jumping on his back and all that, like, yeah, right,
you know, I get it, Like I'm forty one. I
think he's forty one.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Probably hurt, but like.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Tom Brady was forty five, dude, Like what are we
talking about here, Like forty four to forty five at
the end of his career, probably was still going up
head button dudes.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It probably still it hurt Tom too. It probably hurts.
But if you remember, you know, them hurts hurt way
longer to older you get you know, yeah, you remember
it way longer.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Tom Brady's final year, there wasn't like a significant drop off,
like there was still talks that man, we could like
if you wanted to, you can make an argument for it,
because I think Aaron Rodgers ironically did win the MVP
that year, But there was talks that man, look at
the year, Brady ad it's not like he's really lost
that much off the fastball, so to speak. But Rogers
looks like, yeah, it's just not I don't I don't know,
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like I and I don't like saying that because I
don't like seeing the great look the way they look
towards the end from time to time. But he just
seems like he like he wants that ball out as
fast as humanly possible so he can avoid any contact whatsoever.
And maybe it's just he's trying to play the long game,
but it just last night was ugly. Man, that did
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not look good.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't know that it was a good game for
either one. I mean, they they you know, the Chargers
ended up pulling away, you know, in the end. But
I don't know how I phil about the Chargers either.
I don't know that we were looking at like two
good teams. I think we were looking at two teams
that had winning a record. Damn, I don't know, That's
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what I and and I just asked myself. I'm like,
I don't know what our picks were like because I
don't be logging it and I don't remember. But in
my mind. Did I go into this game with confidence
that Pittsburgh I felt like Pittsburgh money line? Money line?
I thought so, and they it wasn't out for me. Well,
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I mean it was an underdog's week. I don't you know.
You guys had a good week.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You actually picked you actually picked multiple favorites. We picked
a lot of underdogs. You picked multiple favorites and ended
up being underdog week.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It was underdog's week. Man, I don't like the Saints. Like,
what was that?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Did we all Steelers money line?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
We did? LaVar is? Oh and five by the way
on the week? Yeah, well I'll take and five. I'm
on the right side of that and five. Wait really,
because if you would have put a gun to my
head and said, damn, make your pick or die, those
would have been the picks that I would have gave you,
and you know what, I would have lived. But I
just have to accept the fact that, you know what,
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they weren't good enough on Sunday. They were the right picks.
They just didn't play the right football.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's right, Yeah, that is that's the Prisco approach. There
you goat has anybody ever.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Gone over in our picks? I don't think they have.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I have to look through it. Uh, so you have
to give me a second research. I don't know that
we've got an o fer. We've had a decent amount
of one firs, which you have done multiple times. I
don't think I could.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Or not.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But how many y'all get? How many y'all get? Right?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Jonas is three and three. I am four and three mm.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That's whack gone.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
LaVar has gone six and oh eight and o like
he's hit some some big time weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Because I call it the right way when we call it, well, no,
it still was called the right way. It's just that
the teams didn't do what they were supposed to do.
That's all. You can't. You can't. You cannot predict. You
can predict a ball on a on a tilted, tilted
till plane is either.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Like a home run or striking out like that's but
no one's gone over in fact, only or only.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
When you put the mouse on, their science goes out
the door. I can't predict what the mouse will do.
I can predict what the ball will do by its weight,
get that the level of the incline, you know the
surface that it's rolling on. But you cannot predict with
science what the mouse will do, and picking games is
like trying to figure out where and how and how
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quickly will the mouse get to from point A to
point B. It may never get the point be That's
what happened yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Just ask for help.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
From some of the Cleveland Guardians pitching staff, and they
could probably help you out with some of this gambling
stuff based on how that.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, thanks, we're gonna get into that now wait till.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The later on.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I mean what I've read it didn't like it was
much money. That was kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, I just don't understand how gambling just continues to
be the thing that pops up. Like I feel like
the penalties should be harsher the further out we get
from the first dummy that did it, Like if you're
if your dummy number one is like look at me,
like look at the dummy. Here's your example. That's a dummy.
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Stop doing this, all right. The further we get out
and we're years out from the first dummies, you should
get the harsher penalties. I'm sorry, Like it should get
worse by by the day, by the day, because it's
gonna there's going to come a point in time where
something that hits it's like, I don't feel like the
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collective aspect of it, like all of it being collected
together is going to be the reason why it becomes
a real like detriment. But it's going to be something
like this basketball one, its latest basketball one is it's
it's it's kind of like that one. That one kind
of hurts. But I just feel like there's going to
be somebody that gets caught up and it's going to
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be like, all right, enough is enough. And I don't
know who that is. I don't know when that is.
I just don't understand why you would be okay being
that person doesn't make sense, man.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Big big picture. Back to the Sunday football game. Yeah,
the Steelers now at five and four, the Ravens with
a win this week, here they come like here they come,
just roaring back to try to get on top the
AFC North, and it does feel like, you know, we're
now at that point where you know, we're over halfway
through the season and it feels like the Steelers is
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just slipping through their hands. Like I don't know, if
you look at their schedule, how many more games you
want to factor in. And I think the other like
high level takeaway from yesterday was going to be the
Bills and what the hell was that that sort of
collapse versus Miami. And maybe we chalk it up to
the divisional opponents knowing each other well, But you don't
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see the Bills very often lay an egg. And that's
one of those that makes you scratch your head and go,
all right, maybe they're not going to win the division, like,
maybe they're not going to be one of those top seeds,
and maybe it is going to be the Patriots. You know,
there's a lot of doubters before the season who were
doubting the Patriots, and I think that's changed. I think
that's changed for a lot of those doubters.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And also, the AFC North is only going to get
one in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It feels like without if you look around it, it'll be
the division winner. Whoever wins that division.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Will get in.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The wild card spots are going to be gobbled up.
And there is and we talked about this a little
bit last week, that there is a world in which
the wild card teams are going to be Buffalo, Kansas City,
and Baltimore, which would be a nightmare scenario for anybody
hosting a playoff game early on. So, yeah, it just
feels like last night and the way Baltimore's playing like
(09:06):
it did seem weird that Baltimore was a four and
a half point favorite at Minnesota, and it's like, well,
and then you looked early on in the game, it
just wasn't It wasn't going.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All that well.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And then ultimately, you know, time ticks off, they run
away with it. Pittsburgh looks awful, and next thing you know,
the Ravens are making a run rough.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Here's their schedule the rest of the season. They host Cincinnati,
so they I mean, I wouldn't say that's a gimme
the way they're playing right now. I mean I would
say Cincinnati's got a more prolific passing attack with forty
year old Flacco than the Steelers do it with Rogers. Yeah,
they go to Chicago, probably will win, depending on who
you ask. The Bills they get the host at home,
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then they still have their two games versus Baltimore in
the division, so they have to go at Baltimore week fourteen.
Miami doesn't seem to be giving up. You're at Detroit,
and then at Cleveland, which at least has a good defense,
you can say. And then they finished the season week
A T versus Baltimore, which very likely before that one
playoff spot you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Let me see what the odds to make the playoffs
are from from either side or just I mean, if
we think that they're just going to be one team
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Speaker 2 (10:36):
All right, Brady, you're you're pretty good at this. You
want to guess who the favorite is to win the
AFC North right now?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And what the line?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's definitely Baltimore, do you I would say? It's is
it plus money or is it almost had even money?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
No, it's definitely not plus money, like definitely really yeah,
definitely already yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
So what is it like minus one fifty ravens.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Hmmm, a little higher?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh wow, Baltimore is a minus two to ninety on
draft games to win the division.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Like there's uh, I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Why wouldn't they be the Browns stink? They they are
quietly one of the funkiest, funk funk stink teams in
the league.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Let me, let me, let me give you a stat
that really speaks to what just happened this past week.
I think they're the first team since they've been tracking
this in NFL history, that's held an opposing offense to
under one hundred and seventy total yards.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's crazy and lost the game. Yeah, they're good on defense.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Hey, look, Miles Garrett signed up for this. Sorry, he
was talking about super Bowls in the offseason. Then all
of a sudden, they threw a big check at him
and he said, you know what, that's not so bad here.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Hey, but hey, he is a Cleveland Brown And at
the end of the day, when you throw that type
of scratch somebody's way, I'll get over it. Yeah, Like what,
I don't want to live this way. I don't want
to be a loser. I don't want to be considered
to be a loser. But I'll get over it. I mean,
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what's the alternative, Like, go somewhere well, he would have
went somewhere else and got more money to get you
get gat money either way, but they stink. I don't know,
like it's a rat for Stefanski. I know, I know
it might not sound like like the popular thing to say,
but it's a rat like Cleveland Brown blow it up.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Here's all I ask you, guys. Did you guys see
how that game ended?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I did not. I did.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
It's fourth and four, the Jets have the ball, Browns
have a chance to get the football back down one
score and you can see Defanski push up the microphone
on his headset and he's yelling out like don't jump.
They're not throwing up, don't jump, jump and some moron,
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I forget who was it was. I forget who was
on there or in their D line, but he jumps
and and they they panned back to Stefanski and he
just he just shakes his head and he takes his
head set off, and I don't know exactly what was said,
but you could imagine the frustration of like that they
were never going to run a play. All they were
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doing were trying to get anyone on the defense to
jump off sides and Aaron Glenn celebrating. I mean, it
was like, again, just celebrating a birthday. And I don't
sit there and watching this going I feel bad for Stefanski,
but I really do because in that moment, you know,
I'm every single their defensive lineman. By the way, let's
looked over at him like you idiot, I can't believe
(13:49):
you just did that. So again, you know, will he
potentially be out at the end of the season. Maybe,
but at some point these players got to start being
accountable for what they're putting out there. And and I'll
say this too, I think Schudor is gonna get a
shot soon because that was it was tough. I mean,
some of the you know, Dylan Gabriel struggle and I
know he's a rookie and I don't want to be
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too hard on him because you know, again there's there's
gonna be those growing pains. But man, there's just there's
just too many plays that are there to be made
and it is not worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I believe it was Cameron Thomas number ninety Thomas who
jumped in that spot, by the.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Way, you know, white guy. You know, I just didn't
think that'd be more discipline than that. You know, well,
the scouting report. I looked up the draft profile. It's
good technique, high motor discipline. Yeah, you know, high football
I Q. You know that's what That's what I said.
(14:48):
It was coming out of San Diego State four years ago.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Sounds very Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'm just telling you what that was his that was
his draft prospect report. You know, you know, limited athlete,
but you know, smart football player, good technique, high motor,
brings his lunch pill to work.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I was like, well, then, sound like a guy who
would jump off sides in the one moment where you
know they're not going to run a play.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
By the way, speaking of San.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Diego, they better run a twenty three and.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Meter on him.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
He might have he might have something. Then there you know,
like what you go far enough back, you know. I mean,
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's why he jumped off side and he's not not
legit twenty twenty three and me uh and speaking of
San Diego State, they got that work from Hawaii this weekend,
so maybe he was a little bit a little bit
shook up after that.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Maybe that's why he jumped off side.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So there you go.
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and coming away. So, uh, yesterday the Detroit Lions annihilated
the Washington Commanders in front of President Trump all right,
who was on the call, was on the call.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
He was in the booth on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know, breaking down the game and uh and talking
Alman Ross. Saint Brown did the Trump Dance to him
at some point during that game, and it was just
a total annihilation. The Lions looked really good. A story
that kind of flew under the radar.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Though, as people know, flew under the radar.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, Dan Campbell was calling plays and it's interesting because.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They were annihilating the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So, you know, John Morton, who was the first year
offensive coordinator, apparently Dan Campbell was not happy with the
way things were going. He decided to make the switch.
And Dan Campbell spoke about the switch afterwards.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
You know, it was just let's let's try something a
little different, right, you know, and if I know what
I want to do, I know how I want to
do it. Now that being said, this is a collaborative effort. Now,
I mean I was taking you know, input from John
Morton that whole time and the other coaches. So hey, man,
what do you think here? Third down?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
We get into this third.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And seven plus blah blah blah blah blah, All right,
where are we at?
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Give me to This is all encompassing, you know, man,
we all worked together. Coaches did a hell of a job.
But I just wanted to change it up a little bit.
You know, Let's just see if maybe a different play
caller can can you know, maybe get us a little rhythm.
That's all.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And that's his that's his prerogative.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Okay, but like you basically cut John Morton's balls off.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
No, you did it. No, you did not. You didn't
cut it. You did it. I don't believe that does that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
We're ten weeks into the season. You've already taken the
job away from it. It's not like they're bad.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I don't think you've taken the job away from him.
You just it's a more collaborative effort, like he said,
it's it's more of a collaboration. As a head coach.
You have the right to to do that, like, yeah,
and cut his balls off, like he said, there's still call.
He's still a part of the plays. He's still the
(18:31):
offensive coordinator. Did his title change, did his paycheck change?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
He's not calling plays though he was called, but he
was calling plays and now he's not well.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
And then the truth of this, though, is they probably
always were collaborative, even when John Morton was calling the plays,
because that's how it usually works. Yeah, most play callers
take into consideration all of it. So I do I
do call into question, Like, all right, then, clearly you
want to put your own stamp on some of the
final decisions on what you were doing and you didn't
(19:03):
like how the rhythm was with Morton, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That's more what it That's more what it is. I
don't think it's a ball chopping exercise. I just think
that maybe that's where he's at. But go at finish point.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
But that's but that's Jonas. You know Jonas wants to
castraight everyone it can geez, I uh, well take it
away from me. Then I would say this, most most
play callers, they they don't know what their identity is
(19:34):
as a play caller until they until they actually start
calling plays. And what you end up finding out is
once you watch the tape, what's your true identity is?
You know how you really respond when your quarterback throws
a pick how or your running back fumbles? You know
how you respond if they're able to get pressure on
you multiple times, like do you believe in the boys
up front to be able to hold up when you
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need him to on third down and everyone knows you
have to throw in its third and a plus third
and seven plus. You know, you start to find those
things out about yourself as a play card. I don't
know that you know, John Warnet had enough time to
really call plays to get a feel for that. But
I think I don't think Dan Campbell wanted to wait.
I think he's like, look, I know what our team is.
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I know that the identity of our team. I've done
this before. I've done it for a while. Like I'd
rather be the one that ultimately has the final say
because we're right in the middle of the hunt for
the division. We're in the middle of the hunt for
a playoff spot, and I don't want games to slip
away because I feel like we're lacking finding a rhythm
and I've got the experience where I feel like I
can get us into one and clearly versus Washington, they
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were able to do so.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Or he still had a red ass over that playoff
game against Washington last year and he wanted to make
a statement.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I mean, that's always possible as well. But again, just
like he chose to call plays yesterday, he could choose
to go back to to oh see, it's not like, oh, well,
those balls is gone now, I don't know what we're
going to do. Like, no, it's not that that doesn't
work that way. It's a collaborative effort, meaning that I
(21:10):
felt like we changed it up, needed a little rhythm.
I felt like I knew what I wanted it to do.
I took the information from him the other guys that
were involved, and this is what we came up with.
It worked. Like I'm pretty sure Andy Reid has done
that with his coordinators for a long time. Some guys
may call the game, you know. It might have been
(21:32):
Eric biene Me that was like, hey, these are the
plays we should call. Sometimes it was that Andy Reid said,
these are the plays we need to call. Whichever one
is finding the rhythm which you feel comfortable with doing.
However it works with the game plan. That's why you're
a head coach, is to make decisions that are ultimately
going to lead to the success of your team. You know,
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if somebody feels good about it, you're feeling good about it.
If it's not working, you may want to You may
get involved that halftime, you know, like I'll take it
from here, like we'll go from here. You know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
If you're tasked to make those decisions. Why'd you hire
him to be the play caller and then ten weeks
in you took it away from him. He cut his
balls off and threw it out the car windows.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
What happened, sheez. I don't see it being that extreme.
I just think that this is what they had, This
was the situation. It worked, like having humility, being a
good team player, being able to work together well with others.
Those are the things. Those are the characteristics that play
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out for successful teams, and no matter what the industry is,
and I don't think that there should be this crazy
approach to ego in this type of circumstance. In fact,
I don't think it needs to be that large of
a conversation as it applies to him making that move
the way that he did. It was a successful move.
(22:58):
Sometimes it isn't. Now I think it's or of a
conversation if you did it and it didn't work, because
now it's like, all right, what do you do? You
felt like we needed to change up. You changed it
up and you didn't win. Like, now, that's a conversation.
But as far as what they did yesterday and how
impressive that victory was, I don't think that that turns
(23:19):
into a major conversation based off of the results. So
he gets to walk forward and say, hey, we needed
to change up. That's what we did. Look at what
our results were. And the offensive coordinator. His balls are
very well intact. He's good to go. He's still to
OC and maybe it's back to him being the guy
that calls the plays until he won. Listen, I've done
(23:40):
that before. I've done that before. Like I was watching
to get oh yeah, I took to play calling duties
from off of the offensive coordinator during the game. Absolutely
shouts out to my man Dean, great great coach, great
offensive coordinator. Like we talked about what we saw during
the course of the game and the headphones, what we're like,
what coverages they're running, you know, who's there best players, Like,
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where are our matchups and stuff like that, and you know,
with the information that we had, I was thinking of plays.
The plays I were hearing weren't matching the sets that
I thought we could have success with. So I said,
let me take it. I'll take it from here, like
I'll take.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
It your guys. Relationship was never the same after that.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I mean, you know what I did. He did go
to a different school after He did go to a
different school after that season, But we did make it
to the playoffs and we only lost one game. After
I did stay to play caller. I just took him
over for that game. That was all. You know. He
was trying to throw the ball way too much.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Man.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
We needed like like listen, the run is there, Like
we got it, Like the run is there, we gotta
do it. Like he kept throwing. I was like, all right,
let me take it from here. We did end up
winning the game.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
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Speaker 3 (25:01):
I can hear Pete, Like in my mind, I get
a mental image of Pete Prisco playing the saxophone in
this this smooth Operator. So yeah, I don't know why.
I guess it's been connected to him so much coming
into the show. I can see him in my head
playing a saxophone. Can you play saxophone? Pete?
Speaker 6 (25:20):
What do you think? I'm Kenny g No, I.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Ain't gonna go that far. I ain't gonna you've played.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yeah, I haven't. I haven't played an instrument in my
entire life.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, but you probably put some Kenny gr while you're
getting to be a smooth operator.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
WHOA No, but I'll tell you this if I if
I was ever to play an instrument, I would be
a drummer.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Okay, why is that, Pete?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
You can take on aggression on that damn thing. You can.
That's why I would be a drummer.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
They call you little drummer, the drum What would.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
You I'd love to hear what instrument you would play?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know what's interesting, Pete. I played the clarinet as
a first instrument and was pretty good at it. And
then I played every saxophone all the way up until
the ninth grade. Uh, the alto sacks, the sax and
the baritone sacks, and actually was going to try to
I was going I was trying to figure out how
(26:19):
I could be in the marching band and play football
at the same time. But I ended up choosing football.
So wow, that's a true store.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
So a dork and an athlete on one who knew.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Don't tell anybody, Pete, damn tell that for that. Oh No,
I was third seat. I wasn't I wasn't first seat.
I wasn't that good, but I was third seat. Now.
I was best with the baritone, like the big one.
I was really good played in the symphony like played
in a show.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
So wow, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Interesting trivia levard told me he plays the pocket flew best.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
There you go. I mean generally I keep the flute
in the pocket. So ap.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Pete, what happened to your jaguars yesterday?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
They're not my jaguars. But that's one of the great
chokes in the history of football. I mean, my god. Up,
you're up nineteen in the fourth quarter against Davis Mills
and you can't hold that lead. I mean, my god,
it's a terrible, terrible loss. And they got a lot
of issues. They can't rush the passer. I mean they
put a lot of money and assets into that pass rush.
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They paid Josh heinz Allen, they drafted Javon Walker first overall.
And they can't get to the quarterback with four man pressure.
And when they blitzed, they have nobody in the back
end who can cover her. So it's a bad combination.
And Trevor Lawrens is't playing very well and you've got
major questions about him. Now does he process past enough,
does he get the ball out? Does he hold the ball?
It wasn't on him. He didn't lose that game. When
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you're up nineteen to the fourth quarter. You're supposed to
win that game, so they have issues, and that was
a game. If you win that, you're six and three
and you're sitting there saying, Okay, they can win, you know,
for the next seven games and become a playoff team.
Well now all of a sudden you're looking at it
and saying, well, probably not because they're not very good.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
On that note, did you think that maybe they should
have at least attempted the field goal? I think it
would have been like a seventy five yarder or something.
But was there ever a thought on that drive? Like
I kind of didn't like how they had called that.
Just the entire thing, even like the was a scramble
or sack that ended up Trevor want and I've taken it.
Just the whole thing down the stretch just seemed a
(28:26):
little discombobulated.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
But did you think they should They would have had
a sixty yard field goal, remember, but then they had
to play callback for a hands to the face.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Right the play before that, where I was kind of thinking,
like I, they're trying to get too much on one
of those plays instead of trying to get like a
quick five ten yards and just kick the field goal
like that kid showed he's got the leg to do it.
He's made one from seventy before, granted preseason.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But still, Brady, they were they couldn't. It would have
been like an eighty yarder. They weren't going to be
able to do that. I mean, if you know, look,
he scrambled to get what twenty something yards to get
it to play, and he threw that shot to the
sideline and he caught it and they got called back
for Hanson face.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
And an alien seven seconds left, right, what we're saying
play on that final play though, they should have went
quick to the out of bounds, right, because you'll have
seven seconds. It's either going to be a hell Mary
from where they were or a quick out of bounds
and then you set up the field goal. And it
feels like they did kind of neither in that case.
But that being said, the fact that Houston kept playing
Manda Man down the stretch there and like they gave
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up obviously that run playing like one robber. I'm sitting
there going what are you doing? I mean, it was
almost a dramatic collapse by Houston. If jacksonvill would have
turn around to won that base in their defense. I
want to transition that game anyway, because it wasn't great. Buffalo,
What the hell happened to your bills yesterday?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Dang, you're jack wing your bills Prisco, Well that was
that was a.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Terrible defensive showing. And if they don't stop the run
any better than they've been doing, it doesn't matter what
they do on offense or what they do anywhere else,
because the teams will just gash them. I mean, two
hundred yards rushing from Miami. It can't happen. And it's
been on going problem. They give up the third most
yards in the league on the ground and it's been
it seems to have been an issue for a long
(30:07):
long time now. They tried the trade for Quinn Williams.
The Jets wouldn't trade inside the division with them, so
they clearly know they have a problem there. And again, though, Brady,
in this league, we saw a couple we thought last
week with Green Bay losing to Carolina after they beat
the Steelers on the road, and you guys played the game.
Why is it so damn hard to get up two
weeks in a row? Why is that a problem? I
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don't I don't understand that for the.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Life of me, because the margins aren't as big as
you think. The margins between the best and the next
guy aren't as big as you and everyone else on
the outside things.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
I agree with you. I agree with you, they're not
that different.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You don't know, Pete. You can't handle the truth, Pete.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I know the margins aren't that great. But why is
it that you can be what you are one week
and then what you're not the next week. That's why
what you are no go play.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
I think the difference we've talked about this for the
difference to me has always been the floor of the
best is so much higher than the next guy. And
I think the problem is sometimes you get that next
guy playing at his best, and you get a guy
who's one of the best in the league playing at
his floor, and sometimes the lesser guy wins out. You know,
I think that's what you see sometimes, Like you, you
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do this whole. You are what you are. The problem
is for most players, they're not as consistent as the
very best, and so that's what you see as you
see these outlier games where guys play up to their ability.
They just can't play up to that as consistently well
as some of the best players, if that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah, but there's gotta be more to it. I mean,
you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Maybe it's retrograde or something like that that plays a
part and why guys are different from time to time.
Like it could be the gravitational pool. Some people may
be on their time, It could be you know, it
could this could be anything and everything that could be.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Or you get anybody ever put that one out there.
You're just not as focused in here, lazy in a
game like that. You're not as focused as you are.
Nobody ever puts that one out there. Well, that's the
reality of it. If and ultimately it falls at the
foot of the coach. If your team isn't ready to
play against a bad team and you lose that game,
that's on you. It's on the coach and it's on
the players. It just doesn't make sense to me. You're
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not supposed to lose those games in Buffalo was exhibit A,
and Green Bay was exhibit B last week when they
lost it home to that crappy Carolina team.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
You know, Pete, I'm a bird watcher from time to time,
and every once in a while, I'll see a woodpecker
like maybe you know, going after it, and I'm like, man,
look at the way that woodpecker is pecking that wood,
and you know what, the results are good and it
looks good and the whole looks good, and it's like, dang,
that woodpecker is pecking that wood. Right then you see
(32:50):
another one is like that woodpecker is pecking, but that
wood isn't getting pecked the way I saw that other
wood pecker pecking that wood. But they're both woodpeckers beat
And you know what it was because it was a
different tree. So maybe it's just the team that they're
playing against, like something was different about the team they
were playing.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
Pete, I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Going, is that still a woodpecker?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
How much? How much good would wood could a woodpecker
pack of the woodpecker? Would? I mean? Is that what
that was? What were you doing? Where were you going
with that? That one?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Hey, we could add, but I'm just telling you, Pete,
it just could be as simple as it was a
different team so you got different results. It doesn't mean
that it isn't the same player. They're the same player.
It's just that you were pecking on a different tree.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's all, Pete. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
We thought that was pretty good. Guys, Pete, we.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Were talking about this earlier. I'm curious what your thoughts
are on this. When you watch Aaron Rodgers last night,
what do you see?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
It? Ish jumpy old quarterback, That's what I saw. It
didn't look like him. And that, by the way, that
was the first game where he really looked like that.
He looked disjointed, he looked like he was sped up.
He looked like he was missing throws. He looked frustrated
a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Where his ies coming down, Pete, Yeah, his.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Ice came down, of course they did. You saw that
one throw on the goal line where he had he
clearly chucked and duck on the one throw. I mean yeah,
his eyes came down. So it was a fair performance.
And it's weird. The Steelers good on offense for a while,
and then they were horrible on defense, And now the
defense started to play better, and now they're starting to
(34:32):
get worse on offense. Like it's hard to figure that
team out. It really is.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
I was gonna jump out and just ask you about
Jackson Dart fourth time. He's a bit evaluated for a concussion.
I mean, it feels like if he continues to play
this way, he's not gonna going to last for long.
Is that fair to say? From what you've seen.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Absolutely, he's reckless. He can't be reckless and play that position,
and it's got to be he's got to rein it in.
And by the way, ready, that one came in the pocket.
I mean, it wasn't like he was running on that one.
He got blasted inside the pocket. But what he was
doing was trying to stay alive. And you know, you
played the position at some point, you just going down.
(35:12):
You know, you can't stay alive. You're not going to
break every tackle. They're grown men. You're not gonna get
out of five tackles all the time. So it's time
to go down. And he took that late, that shot
late in that whole process. So, yeah, he's reckless and
you can't play that way. It looks it's fun to watch,
it's fun to scheme up stuff with him to be
able to run the ball, but as you know, there's
some nasty, violent people on the other side of the
(35:33):
ball that want to take your head off. You have
to be able to stand.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
One, Yeah, right, he was one two for sure, one two,
three four and get the ball out and then if
you got to check it down, you check it down.
A checkdown is always better than your quarterback getting outside
the pocket and being reckless. So I'm with you one
hundred percent. He can't he cannot have sustainable success playing
that position the way he's playing it right now.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
What about brisket Persette? You know everybody's trying to get
rid of Calum Murray for brisket. What would your take
on that? I mean, do you now reconsider bringing Kyler
Murray back over having brisket? Like?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Are we going he's out for a while?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Are we going turf? Like? What are we doing here?
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Well, they said he's out for a while. Now you
know the soft benching, They make it look like you're hurt.
That's what that was. And look, Jacoby Brissette, please, you
are what you are. Come high.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He's a backup?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
But we serious? Are we serious? With the look? Kyler
Murray is probably not the answer in Arizona either have
been very good, but we're not serious about Jacoby Brissett?
Or are we's a nice backup? You come in, you
do some good things and then all of a sudden,
it's levels off like it always does when you're a
backup quarterback, And so the reality is he's not the answer.
But they have a big decision to make on Kyler Murray.
(36:49):
I don't think there's any doubt about that. Who do
you think is better Kyler Murray?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of course he is, but it doesn't sound like they
want him back.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
Nobody who's making the Who's that making the noise that
you bring? Okay, what do you think? Who do you
think is better?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I mean again, I think Kyler Murray when healthy, adds
a different element that Brissette doesn't. But I do think
Brissett is he's been able to kind of hold his
own from the pocket. But I think again, if you're
devising an offense for Caler Murray when's one hundred percent,
he's just got more dynamic ability to do more. But
I don't think the margin again is as big as
people think it is.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, he held his own in the pocket yesterday, but
turning it over for two touchdowns for Demark Lawrence, I
mean you're using.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
A one game sample size. He he actually he actually
cowboy well hold on for a second in his career
because he qualified now for it. He actually had I
think coming into this past week the best like interception percentage,
like what the lowest in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Do you even know that?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Yes? Or you can. You can take all those stats
and twist them in where you want.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
There's no stats in twisting he was. He was at
one point three percent. Rogers was at like one point
four percent for his career. So I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
He information, Pete. I don't use that information against you.
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Do your eyes tell you he's a good quarterback? Yes?
Or no?
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I think when he's got some help around him, Like
does it matter right now? Who's that quarterback for them?
Do you feel like that's a good offense?
Speaker 6 (38:24):
No? I do not.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
I do not, But I don't. I don't think he's
a good quarterback, and I don't think he's ever been
to a quarterback. I think he's a back quarter.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
I think in the I think in the right situation
and circumstance, he's he's gonna be able to play it.
He's gonna be able to to have, you know, a
successful career without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Let me ask you something, do you know how many teams.
He's been on, he's.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Been a lot, but he's also been on and viewed
as a backup like you do.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
So I mean he's a backup. He's a backup quarterback.
That's what he is. And look, he's a good backup.
It's nice to have a good backup. It's an okay job,
it's a great in fact, it's a great job. But
that's what you are. You're a backup quarterback. Anybody who
thinks Jacobe Presaid is a consistent started quarterback in the
NFL is way off base.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You said the same thing about Sam Darnold. You said
the same thing about others that have proven you wrong.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Pete, eat it there, pe.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Get it, Pete, Get him on X, get him on Exit. Prisco,
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