November 12, 2025 • 40 mins
In hour 2, the guys discuss Steelers HC Mike Tomlin answering questions about having concerns on the future of Aaron Rodgers, Bills HC Sean McDermott solidifying his belief behind OC Joe Brady + another edition of the Good, Bad & Ugly!
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And we started our three hour journey on Monday talking
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about what Sunday night football looked like, and it was
the Chargers dismantling the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers in particular
did not look good, looked a little skittish, looked a
little concerned, and we were just wondering, I mean, is
this going to be the norm moving forward? And so
Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, was asked about long
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term concerns about his quarterback and had this to say,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Going to talk it up to an off night, but
there are no long term concerns. I'm just not going
to allow your words to be my words. That's all.
Sunday night was what it was. But I have no
long term reservations about his ability to play the position
and play the position at a high level for us.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
All Right, So there's there's the head coach talking about
his quarterback of the for now first place Pittsburgh Steelers,
and I don't know man, I'm not surprised he said that.
It's not like he's going to come out and be like, yeah,
you know, we have real concerns about him moving forward.
But I just don't know. They don't really have any
other choice. He's their guy. They've got a role with this,
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and they've got to try and make sure that he
stays healthy and plays at a high level if they're
going to do anything, because their defense has not been
what I think a lot of people thought it was
going to.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Be this year. No, not for what they're they're paying
their defense. And I keep going back to this whole
time to throw stat because it was evident watching it,
like I seemed like as soon as Aaron Rodgers got
the ball in his hand, he wanted to get it out.
He leads the league in that he's gigging out faster
than any other quarterback. And then we I talked about
earlier in the week, and maybe it was a little
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bit mostly on Monday, Tom Brady was on the exact
same thing in Tampa. Now, granted, you know this is
back in what twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, you know,
those years when he was played laying at forty five,
forty four, forty three years old, so even more so
than where Aaron Rodgers is at now. Although we never
really came away saying like, okay, they like they don't
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take you know, shots or chunks down the field, like
their team was still pushing the ball down the field
vertically despite him getting out of the ball out his
hand fast. You know, the other quarterback that fell into
that category I had to go back a little bit
was in twenty twenty Ben Roethlisberger his final year. I mean,
he was getting the ball out with in about two
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seconds from the snap. And I don't know if you
remember this or not, but it was a combination of
the offense, the O line, and maybe even you'd say
at that point in time, you know, just you know guys,
you know, not getting open downfield. But it seemed like
the passing game was a little bit out of sync.
But he was adamant of getting the ball out of
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his hand quick. And I'm not saying that this is
like indirect relation to the fact that you know, Aaron Rodgers,
Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, all those guys were very very
late in their career and didn't want to get hit.
But I think that's a part of it. Like, even
though there's an element of, well, these guys know where
to go at the football because they've been playing for
so long, everything's moving in slow motion, there's also an
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element of they probably don't want to get hit. You know,
your most important ability is durability, and if you're out
there for the next series, you're out there to live
on to play the next down or live on to
play the next series. That's usually what makes you most
effective and is what's best for your team. So I'm
not knocking it. It's just the problem is when when
I'm watching the Steelers offense, there doesn't feel like there's
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much of a I want to say threat because with
DK Metcalf and some of the other speed they've got,
with Austin and Wilson a wide receiver, there's a threat
of them being able to go downfield. But it doesn't
feel like it feels like they're reluctant.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To do so, I mean, doesn't it Isn't it also
fair to say that it's their first year together, Like
you could understand maybe why it wouldn't look as fluid
up to this point if they haven't all played together.
I mean they worked out together in the off season.
I get all that, but I think there also is
that and yeah, I look, I don't I don't blame
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the guy for not wanting to get hit either. I've
said it to you before. I don't like the part
that would scare the f out of me if I
was a quarterback, is people at my feet, because I
would just assume, Oh, somebody's gonna roll into my knee
and it's just going to cave in, right. And you
know about my dislocated decap. I mean that's been chronicled
on this show for for years.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
It's such a tragic injury. I mean it is. No
one's ever had their kneecap dislocated do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Again, No, So I mean there's that, and there's also
the what you had happened to you to where you're
throwing through and you hit your hand on somebody's helmet.
Like both those things would just throw like I would
be awful. I'd either call for I checked down to
a handoff every single time, or I too would just
try and throw screen passes trying to avoid somebody's helmet
in front of me. So I get why he's skittish.
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I just wonder when they're talking about and there was
this report that came out a couple of years, a
couple of weeks ago where they're saying, you know, the
Steelers are definitely open for him coming back next year.
Can we just get through this year, Like, can we
just see where he's at this year? Because that Sunday
night looked problematic, Like and I know, like Mike Tomlin
can dismiss it and say, you know, I don't have
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any long term concerns, but it didn't look right. And
I think everybody had the same takeaway to where that
was one of the worst performances we've seen from Rogers optically.
It just didn't look right for him.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And I also keep going back to what the identity
of this team needs to be. Get back to running
the football, Like get back to you know, you don't
need to have Aaron Rodgers throw the football fifty times
a game. Like I don't want to keep making comparisons
to Tom Brady, but we're also in rarefy air where
you've got a guy who's you know, forty one doing
what he's doing. I mean, we can go look at,
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you know, what Joe Flacco's doing, but when Burrow comes back,
Burrow's starter. So it's really Rogers and you know, a
guy like Tom Britty and what they were doing in Tampa,
and they were a team that was reluctant to run
the football. And I'm not saying that that necessarily took
away their chance from winning more than one Super Bowl,
but at that point in time in his career, I
don't know. I was kind of looking at thinking, wouldn't
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you want to take some of the pressure off of him?
Or is your argument going to be like, hey, we
finally got this guy, like or if it's Pittsburgh, it's
been a while since we've had a Hall of Fame guy.
There's a gap between Ben Roethlisberger and now Aaron Rodgers.
So now that we've got him, we're gonna use him
and we're gonna throw the football as much as we
can because we trust him to make the right decision,
we trust him to get it out of his hands
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and not get hurt. So I do wonder how much
that plays into it, But you're right. I mean, it
is the first year in this offense. It's the first
time Aaron Rodgers has worked with Arthur Smith. I mean,
I I'm one who always tries to preach patience about this.
I think we lack patients in general. I think we've
all gotten more impatient with them as we've gotten accustomed
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to being able to do things at a rapid pace.
So that's that's a part of life, how we've all evolved,
and I think we've grown impatient with players being able
to get on the same page. But it's a difficult
task and the qualities that you have to have as
a quarterback in the NFL, where are throwing the football
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and you've got to anticipate you're throwing the spots where
those guys aren't there yet. You've got to be able
to gauge how they run, how they get an in
and out of cuts. Like think about DK Metcalf and
the Adonis that he is and how he runs an
incut versus Calvin Austin. It's dramatically different. I mean, I
would guarantee you without even having to break down much film,
Calvin Austin gets in and out of cuts fast, where
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DK Metcalf probably has to break down a bit more,
or at least throttle down when he's running a bit
more to make those turns to make those cuts, and
so that spot where you're putting the football is going
to be different for each one of those guys. And
it's not just a height thing, it's just how they
run their routes, how they get in an out of cuts.
So learning that nonverbal communication, learning that body language takes time,
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and you're not going to have enough time nowadays with
the cutdown off seasons. Even if they did work together
in the offseason to be able to win the ball
snapped in a real, live NFL game and you basically
having a quarterback who's getting out in two point five seconds,
it's gonna be really hard to make that look like
how it's supposed to look in year one, next year,
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different story. But like you look at Matt Stafford, who's
operating at an extremely high level. How long has he
been with Sean McVay now five years, yeah, six years?
Wherever it's been. I mean, he's playing at an MVP
right now would be the MVP. That's how well he's
playing in that system with a lot of things that
have been kind of static out around h Now Paku
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has been there for a couple of years. DeVante Adams
feels like he's he's mixed in well, but as far
as protection, what they're looking for the no look passes,
he's throwing no look passes because he knows guys are
going to be He's been in the system that long.
So yeah, it's there's definitely an element of that, But
there's gonna be a one to two from Rodgers, and
I think there's also got to be a to me
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at least, there's got to be more of a precedent
set on saying we need to establish the run, like
this is still Pittsburgh. We need to be a physical
offense that's going to run the football first and then
build everything off of that, even with Aaron Rodgers as
your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, I didn't realize they were thirtieth in the league
in rushing yards per game. I didn't realize that it
was that non existent there to where like when you're
you know, keeping company with Tennessee, like that's not good
on offense. And so I didn't realize that they were
so dependent because and by the way, if you were
to tell people, hey, through the first half of the year,
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Pittsburgh's going to be thirtieth in the league in rushing
yards a game. Is that a good recipe for Aaron
Rodgers at this point in his career. No, No, that
was one of the things when the Matt Lafloor higher
was made in Green Bay that I thought of, because
I remember we were talking about when they made the
higher for Matt Lafloor and it was like, well, you know,
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the Tennessee offense like wasn't really known for their passing attack.
They were more known for running the football. But as
it turns out, when they established the run there, they
were way better off to where it wasn't just him,
You had Aaron Jones, you had all like they were
way better off in Green Bay when they had a
consistent rushing attack. Pittsburgh doesn't have that, and so yeah,
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you're relying on him to stand back there and throw
the ball when you're one of the worst rushing teams
in the league.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's not going to go well well and not to
again keep making the comparison, but you go back to
twenty twenty two or the Tampa Bay Bucks right in
Tom Brady's last year there thirty second in yards in rushing,
So it feels like it's a very similar formula. And
again you've got that guy Hughes, a first ballot Hall
of Famer, and you'd like to be able to utilize
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him and you to be able to, you know, put
the bow in his hands as much as possible. I
just I feel like someone has to sit there and say,
you know, we know you're special, and we know what
you're capable of if we give you thirty thirty five attempts.
But what we'd like to do is say we're gonna
give you twenty to twenty five a game, and we
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want you in those twenty twenty five to be just
as special, right, and we feel like there'll be better
opportunities for our offense, better opportunities for everyone else around you.
And mind you like we're in Pittsburgh, you were in
Green Bay. You know how this works. Like the weather's
gonna be inclemented work, there's gonna be times when we're
gonna have to be able to, you know, have the
ability to run the football. And I just don't know
if they've established that quite yet.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Why do you think Joe Flacco's better than him right now?
What is it like playing playing at a higher level?
Like what is it? Is it just the receivers on
the outside.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Or so you also have like t Higgins and Jamar
Chase who are phenomenal, So it's no disrespect to DK Metcalf.
He also just got there, so he's trying to develop
chemistry with Aaron Rodgers, and he's trying to learn the
offense too, so that plays a role. But I would
say those two receivers play are a really big part
in that.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean, but Flacco, have you seen signs of him
looking like skittish at all, Like he's just slinging it.
It's almost like he doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
He's just he does. He does play with like a
very care free you know ways back there where he
just seems like impervious to like yeah, you know, whatever happens, good, bad, whatever,
Like he's he's seen it all at this point.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, it's like what whatever, I was just on the Browns,
What do I care? Like, let's just go throw the ball,
Like it's just not even there's no care in though.
It's almost like it's almost like jok like it we're
almost like we're watching that in the NFL to where
Flaco's just out there slinging it.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, I think about this dude. I mean, he's like
he's he's been a Super Bowl MVP, Like, he's been
to the pinnacle of the sport with a great organization.
He has then been replaced by a guy who's been
one of the most dynamic, talented quarterbacks we've seen in
Lamar Jackson. So he went through that. He then went
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through a period of time where he's kind of bounced
around and he's again seen it. He's kind of seen
it all. I mean, you go back to Anthony Richardson
last year basically, you know, trying to take off a
play and wave himself out. It's like, yeah, Flacco came
in and to basically take over for him the rest
of that season. Like he he got traded within the
division this year, Like how how often does that happen
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to any player, let alone a quarterback. So when you
really break it down, like, look, what's he going to
be surprised by. He's seen it all on the field.
It's happened all to him as a player, and so yeah,
he kind of just goes back there and it slugs
it around, man, and I love it like it is
it is. And he's such a good dude. And if
you talk to him too, you just have such an
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appreciation for his perspective and what he's done and how
like grounded he is. But he is one of the
And he's a funny guy too, man. I mean he's
a Philly guy, Soho's got a good sense of humor.
Good Win. But I just I think, I think you
look at his experience this point where I don't feel
like he had, like he feels like anyone owes him
anything or there should be any expectation. He just goes
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out in place. It feels different for Rogers. It feels
like he's got something to prove, whether it's to Green
Bay who moved on from him, or the Jets who
moved on from him. When I watch him play, it
feels like there's a bit of that weight or pressure
on him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And Flaco's like, oh, dude, like I played for the Jets,
I played for the Browns.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I know what that's like.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Like, I don't like, I mean you need to like
I had to come in off the couch because you know,
Deshaun Watson got injured. I had to sit and hear
all the storylines about shit or Sanders and training, Like
do you think I like, what do I care about this?
Just give me the ball, Let's go sling it around.
Like my family's back home. I'm sitting at you know,
bars by myself, you know, eating dinner in the in
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the middle of the week, just like dude, he just doesn't.
It just seems like, and I don't know how how
we're looking at his career. And I'm not saying that
Joe Flacco's a Hall of Famer. He's had a marvelous career.
He's had an unbelievable career where we're going to look
back on and go, you know what, Joe Flacco was awesome, Like,
he really was awesome. And if you go back to
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that Super Bowl, that was when Baltimore hadn't given him
the long term deal. And I still remember this because
it was basically, hey, Joe Flacco bet on himself and
in that playoff run, he was awesome and he was
actually a really good playoff quarterback. And look, I don't
think Cincinnati's going to the playoffs this year and Joe
Burrow is probably going to be back anyways. But if
you look at Joe Flacco's playoff numbers, there was a
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time where he was lights out in the postseason. Basically
bet on himself and the contract he got was like
twenty million dollars a year. Like we're going to look
back on Joe Flacco's career and be like, dude, he
was awesome and it's sort of understated and underrated because
he was in the AFC with Brady and all those
great quarterbacks and all the other ones that got all
the attention. But he's been fantastic man, And I watch
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him play and I'm like, there's no concerns, Like I
don't care, Like whatever you listen by, I throw three picks.
It is what it is. I'm gonna keep slinging it.
I don't care. What's the worst is going to happen
to me?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
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and subscribe. So Sean McDermott, the Bills head coach, Amazing
things happen when you're I think a seven and a
half point favorite and you go to Miami and you
get pistol whipped by the Miami Dolphins, who are an
awful team, and their head coach then trolls Bills fans
at the Elbow Room in Fort Lauderdale. Weird things happen,
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like people you know, start to ask questions about your
offensive coordinator, Joe Brady, and about what's going on there
in Buffalo from an offensive standpoint, and could there potentially
be a return to that same position from somebody who
now finds himself out of a job in the NFL.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Well, Joe's a good coach, he really is. We've got
a really good offensive staff. You know, they've had really
good games. You're gonna you're gonna have some games you
want back, some play calls you want back. Those happen,
so it's how you respond to them. And I'm fully
confident in our offensive staff and Joe is our leader
that we will we will make the adjustments we need
to make and move us forward.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I know the news is very very fresh, but with
what happened with Brian day Ball, given his history here
in Buffalo and his relationship with Josh, would there be
any consideration reaching out to him to see if he
had any interest in joining the staff and in.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Any way, Yeah, no, I understand why you're asking that.
Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to
him at this point. That's that's not under any type
of consideration.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So there you go. If anybody who was looking for
the reunion with the Buffalo Bills and Brian Dayball and
Josh Allen, they're gonna have to wait a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah. I just when does that ever happen where guy's
gotten fired as a head coach and immediately joins another team.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You imagine Sean McDermott's like, yeah, listen, I'm glad you
brought that up. He'll be here to today, Like.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, he's actually the back room right now, wait to
come out here. We're going to introduce you. What title
we giving him? Do you have offsets? All right, we'll
figure this out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Brian da Ball And he just comes down and I
just got fired.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, Hey, guys, wasn't that far of a trip, you know,
I was just uh down in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Body's not even cold. What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I don't know, man, I just is it that time
of the year where you know, reporters get bored or
was it more they just they sit in a room
by themselves and they just they think like, yeah, this
would be a good idea, this would be a good
question to ask, like this will yeah yeah, Like yeah,
he'll answer this like there's a chance this could happen.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I mean, why why would Brian Because I'm assuming, just
to entertain the conversation, I'm assuming if you were to
take the offensive coordinator job, which is just preposterous, I'm
assuming that would the Giants then be off the hook
for whatever they were paying him? Was Wasn't that part
of the reason why? I think it was why Matt
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Patricia was what didn't wasn't really given a label in
New England because if he was given a label in
New England to try, would would be wouldn't have to
be held responsible for paying him a portion of his
contract that was still remaining or something along the head lines. Correct,
So why would Brian da Ball give up money he's
getting for not doing anything to go take over as
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offensive coordinator in Buffalo in week eleven?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think the I mean, that's rather obvious, you know
why you wouldn't? I think the next questions more of
is or would Brian Dable be willing to take a
lesser role? In general, once you become a head coach,
and he was obviously a head coach for a few years.
It wasn't like he was a head coach for a
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year and got fired. You know, he was a head
coach for a while now to the point where he
wants another opportunity at it. He wants to go and
he wants to be able to do some things. I'm
sure a little bit different, but he'll probably look at
different situations and circumstances and think, if I was the
head coach, this is how what I've done things, and
I could make that team more successful. Like, once you
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get to a certain level or status, you don't want
to go back. I mean, that's the reality of being
a head coach is you have complete control, or at
least in that situation, you had complete control as the
head coach of what your staff, what your team's going
to do. So you don't want to have to go
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back to just being an OC or a DC or
a special teams coordinator. You know, that's a step back
in your mind. I think we all who are out
there working, we want to keep climbing. We'd like to
keep you know, moving past and moving beyond where we're
currently at, and to go take a lesser role, it's
it feels backwards. So I think that's the other thing
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about this that I mean, the guy is purely basically
his question off of you know, the past history that
Brian Dable and obviously the Buffalo Bills have had, but
for Brian Dabba, like why would he want that? I mean,
you know, he doesn't want to have to go back
to that and having to have someone else ultimately dictate
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his schedule for his life and ultimately dictate, you know,
what's going to happen to his career. I mean, think
about that, Like you're putting your hands in another guy's
career or you excuse me, your career in another guy's hands.
With how you go about choosing who you want to
coach for until you become a head coach, that's what
you're doing. Like is this guy going to be able
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to be a good leader? Is this guy not going
to mess things up? Like, think about any assistance out
there who signed on to be with a coach who
is a head coach he got canned in his first year.
Like you just uprooted your family, you just found a
place to live. You've just maybe gotten into a routine
at that city or in that city, and next thing
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you know, you're the rub getting rug gets ripped from
out underneath you. You got to coach fired halfway through the season,
and you've got the entire staff looking for the next job.
Your kids are now sitting there saying, like, Dad, are
we were going to be in school here next semester?
Next year, we're gonna hang around. We just I just
started to make friends. Like think about all those things
(25:15):
that impact your personal life. So again, I just I
don't know that he's gonna want to go back. I
think if anything, he'll you know, be patient and maybe
look for that next head coaching job, wherever that may be.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Do you think that he's somebody who needs a pit
stop as an OC in order to get considered for
another job.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Already did it? Already did it. He went back to
New England after he had stints in you know, Cleveland
and Kansas City and others. He did that. He went
to Bama. I mean you went to the both car washers.
I mean call plays in out you know, at all
Obama to get back up into the NFL. So you know, again,
once your head coach, I mean, you can go call
(25:57):
plays for someone you respect and all that. I mean,
Josh McDaniel, unless you get the head coaching job, He's
not going anywhere so, you know, and I'm not sure
Mike Grabil, you know, would how well he knows Brian
Dable and we would have won him. But you know,
Bill Belichick's out there anymore, and Nick Saban's out of coaching,
So I'm not sure where you go, you know, after
this and what role you take. But yeah, maybe, because
(26:20):
he's done it before, he would see that as an
avenue to get his name back out there and all
that maybe be TV. You know, Brian's a very charismatic guy.
He's a super smart, witty guy. He likes to have fun.
I think most people who cover, who covered the Bills,
who covered probably the Giants, probably enjoyed him, enjoyed taking
all he's a he's a great dude. Players you know,
(26:40):
love him as a person. It just it didn't work
out with New York.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, the Josh I've said this before, Drake May finds
himself in a pretty advantageous spot because I don't I
can't imagine Josh McDaniels is going to get another opportunity
to coach. I just can't.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
He will. It just will take some time.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Because and now you know what, he's back there, Drake
May is playing the way he's playing, and you know
he's just gonna he's gonna ride that. There's gonna be
no inconsistency. He's not gonna have to worry about him
leaving to go else where anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It just why do you keep saying that? Because he'll
he'll eventually get a head coaching opportunity. It was this league.
This league is starving for offensive minds. It's an offensive
league to lead their franchise, and eventually it'll come back around. Well,
they'll say, man, you know when Drake May just want MVP. Oh,
the Patriots just won a Super Bowl again. You know
with the Drake may Man that offense is so good,
(27:34):
maybe we shouldn't interview Josh McDaniels. Like it always comes
back around. And organizations that I'm not gonna say it
like desperate, but when they needed a head coach. They've
got a young, promising quarterback, and they see what Josh
mccannis is doing with Drake May, they will come knocking.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I mean, the Raiders was a disaster.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean that the way that holding, how are they
doing now?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, I would agree with you, but I think that
there was enough stories out of there that maybe people wonder,
you know, is he fit for the job. I'm not
saying he's not. I'm just saying I wonder if there's
enough people around the NFL to go. Denver went the
way that it went, The Raiders went the way that
it win. He had his chance.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I get that. And there's obviously the Colts story, which
you know, bothered people. Whatever what it was, signed signs snaff.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I don't know. That's how long we've been doing the
show together like that, we still remember the facts that
was in play for Josh McDaniels, who supposedly was accepting
the Indianapolis Colts job according to the Colts, except he
never actually signed on the dotted line, which is kind
of important, and the Colts just ran with the story
anyways on social media. That's a lot we've been doing
(28:43):
this show.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
But they found themselves now in a good spot, so,
you know, water under the Bridge. I would go back
and say this, Look, the Raiders have been in a
tough spot for a while, so I'm not sure you
put that fully on him, even though it again, it
didn't look good. The Broncos were off to a six,
and I was start it was hot, and then I
feel you know, I wasn't there. I don't know exactly
what happened. I know in year two, you know what
(29:07):
took place, and you know he was dismissed without you know,
finishing that season. And I think the tough thing is
in each one of those situations. And again I don't
care and speak to the Raiders, but you know, even
for the Broncos, you know, it took them going to
get you know, Gary Kubiak and Peyton Manning, and you
know that gave them that run of success with John
(29:27):
Fox and then into Kubiak, but you know, since then
then they kind of went through this lull. I'm trying
to figure it out again, and I feel like the
ownership was somewhat unstable, you know, during that time, and
mister Bowlan, who was a tremendous man and incredible owner,
but he wasn't, you know, at that point in time,
(29:48):
kind of overseeing it all. And so that that plays
a role in all of that. And I'm and again
the Broncs in a completely different position now and a
much better spot now, and they've got that stability with
Sean Payton is their head coach, and obviously with the
new ownership group but I do think that that probably
played a little bit of a role too, and how
(30:08):
some of the things went there in Denver looking back
on it now, So I don't know. Again, I think
he'll get another opportunity. Hopefully we'll work together long enough
to be able to see that opportunity where he does
sign the dotted line and you have to eat crow again.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm with you, man, Hey, I think we're coming up
on ten years together, like we're getting marks. Yeah, we're
coming up on a decade too long. Yeah, coming off
on a decade.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
LeVar is probably gonna kill it off when it's all
said done.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So yeah, that's going to be on his h on
his conscious that we had a ten year run going
and he spoiled the party. Like I mean, we're one
of the longest running duos at this network if you
think about it. That's impressed long and by the way,
longest tenured team that you've ever had.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
That is true. Yeah, who's actually been together longer than us?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think maybe Jasonson.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Not the Odd Couple, Yeah nothing, not the Odd Company.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
No, No, because I want to know part of Rob
after a while, I don't blame him. And then I
would say uh, Coveno and Rich, but not at this network.
They've been together a long time. Yeah, there's not a
lot man like, Yeah, Chris playing one, Arnie Spanier, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon. I don't know, but we're we're in contention.
(31:24):
We're definitely up there. I could like we've paid our dues. Also,
you know, I was thinking about when we're talking about
guys that were head coaches and at a certain point
they'll get an opportunity again. You know who I love
has handled it the right way. Adam Gase man up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hey, you
know what f this like, I'm just gonna go do
(31:45):
what I do. I don't even know what he's doing now,
Like what.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Is he his kids? Yeah, he's raising his kids for him,
which is admirable too because he'll have the opportunity to
get back into it when he wants to. But he's
been concer there's he's been still staying active and busy,
like doing film breakdown stuff like that. But you know,
he he's I think he had an earnout from the Jets,
(32:11):
so obviously he couldn't do anything. I think until that
earnout was finished, but he was just being a dad,
you know, getting you know, back healthy, raising his kids.
So he he kind of took some time away from it,
and we were just understandable too, Like I think people
tend to forget. Yeah, you're highly compensated, but you don't
realize the impact that it has on your kids and
on your family and the stress they go through and
(32:34):
the stuff they have to deal with on top of
that too. So uh, he's he's doing great though. I
actually I saw him probably about a year ago. It
looked like he was in really good spirits. So I'm
sure he'll get back to it again again. All these
young guys that you're like writing off just because the
prior head coaching experience didn't work, they grow and they
learn from this. It's not like it's gonna be the
(32:54):
same thing the next time around.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Why do I get labeled as a guy writing them
off simply.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Because you're the one I said, josh Daniels will not
be a head coaching.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Obso, like if I was a betting man, I would
say not. I like Joshua Daniels. But I just think
that there's a repida because.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Here's the other thing is you get like the first
time head coaches in the NFL who go into him
and when it is a disaster because they, again they
don't know what they're doing. You get teams that are like, well,
I don't want to do that, you know, I'd rather
find a guy who, like again Brian Callahan's time in Tennessee,
he was set up to fail in the first place,
(33:28):
but it did work out well. And when teams are
going to look at that and say, well, we are
scared of doing that, We'd rather bring in a guy
and even if he hasn't been the most successful, if
he's got prior head coaching experience, he knows what to expect.
We're going to have someone who's who's not here making
decisions for the first time, or we have to bring
in people to help him, like he's going to know
(33:48):
what to do.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, well, look, I hope they all get another opportunity,
and I hope we continue on because the fact that
the NFL continues to turn and burn six or seven
or eight coaches a year is still wild. Like it's
almost a third of the league gets clipped every single
year in the NFL, So you talk.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
About this is kind of crazy. If you think about that, right.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It doesn't like it's and nobody looks at that. They
just go, oh, well, you know who's getting It's like
we we almost celebrate Black Monday, like, oh well it's
Black Monday. It's like, okay, awesome, guys are getting fired
and they're getting their dream shattered. Yeah, they're making a
lot of money. Okay, Well you know when they were,
you know, making you know, four dollars an hour trying
to come up the ranks. You know, they weren't doing
(34:30):
it because of the pay. They were doing it because
they wanted to be a code. That was their goal.
And they get that opportunity and next thing you know,
they're out the door and it's like, well it's black Monday.
Who got fired again?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Like and then there's you got paparazzi that are now
following Brian Dayball. There's like pictures on the internet on
social media of Brian Dayball outside his home. Dude, they
did the same thing with jo Judge. Just let the guy,
Let the guy move on with his life. Okay, it
didn't work out, all right, stop, Let's let's let the
guy enjoy the holidays with his family and that's it.
(35:04):
All right, we don't need the Papa Rozzi following him
around because he's a Giants coach that got fired. And
if you're gonna do that, that's probably gonna happen with
the next guy that's gonna get clipped from the Giants.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
It's just I just I just searched this. There's some
d bag on Instagram and the title with the picture
is spotted at home. It's like, right, all right, moron,
where else do you I mean, like, yeah, we all
have a home, we live somewhere, like of course it's
a photo of him like outside his.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Home, like ok like he's diddy like spotted Like.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
It's just it's more like, okay, like where else did
you want him to be? Like at a coffee shop?
Or you're mad you didn't get a photo from there?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
By the way, I think I think in that picture,
if I'm not mistaken, day Balls weren't a Penn State sweater.
I think he's more like a Penn State hoodie. You know,
So I think there is that. So it just yeah,
the whole thing is, you know, it's kind of crazy. Also,
do we have a I don't know, should we save this?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
You know, I mean we'll actually, you know, let's just
let's just mention this here. This for some reason, this
was breaking news. I don't know there was that big
of a.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Deal, but.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Jamis Winston elevated to number two quarterback and expected to
start on Sunday in the event Jackson Dart doesn't clear
the concussion protocol. Per Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network,
Winston was moved ahead of Russell Wilson as interim coach
Mike Kafka informed them. So there is that.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I don't know why they didn't put Jamis Winston as
the backup for this most recent game, Like basically, since
they benched Russell Wilson, it should have been Winston the
rest of the time. I'm not really sure why that
move wasn't made before.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I mean, Russell Wilson man that I can't catch a break.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Well, it's not even that, it's just like, you know,
the head coach had kind of moved on. It felt
like maybe even the team had moved on to degree
and you know, Russell got his opportunity, Jackson got to
go in when he was hurt. You probably should give
Jamis an opportunity. Like, again, a very capable quarterback doesn't
have the same resume as Russell, but I mean doesn't
hurt to try, right, you.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Can go out there slinging it. It's gonna be Joe
Flacco again. It's gonna happen. He was doing it last year.
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Speaker 5 (38:03):
It cannot adjust.
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
All right, Bremiro, who's got what this week? All right?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
E Jonas, you're up, You're you got.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
The good first.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
So the good for this week is this show without LeVar.
I think it's been smooth. I think there's been a
real opportunity unities here to showcase our skill sets, and
I feel like this show has been better than any
show we've done this week, and it's pretty glaringly obvious
(39:11):
why that is. It's because LeVar is not here. So
that's my good for the week.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
All right, you ready, euroupe?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
You got the bad? The bad? Well, that would be
Kentucky last night losing the in state rival Louisville. As
some people know, I've been raised a big Kentucky Wildcat fan,
in particular for men's basketball, and uncle who played football.
There's Steve Slat's almost Steve, so you know, like any
(39:40):
other Bandwagon fan, they were really good when I was young.
My uncle went there, we grew up going down to Lexington,
so became a fan. I just they're so talented, man,
and I feel like they just they underachieved defensively. It
was a nightmare and the almost gave up one hundred
points of Louisville last night. So I don't know. I
don't know on the fence right now about Mark Pope,
(40:02):
I thought he was the guy. I thought he made
a lot of sense. I just I don't know. I
thought last night was one of those measuring stick games,
and clearly Kentucky basketball is now where it needs to be.
So last night that was bad. Almost actually as bad
as the take you just had.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
What do you mean bad? Like, I can end at
whatever reward I want.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I miss var, I miss him, man, I don't.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Alrighty and I have the ugly and so I'm going
to say my saint's fandom is pretty ugly because Tyler
Shuck played on any when they beat the Panthers, and
now I'm like rooting for Tyler Shuck even though I
was Spencer Rattler for the first like, you know, eight weeks,
nine weeks. So that's the ugly for me. Wow, I know,
I know, yeah, not loyal, not loyal at all.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I call that ugly, but it's not good
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Well mean, but you are low you still root for
the same I know that's true, but go Tyler Shuck.
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And we started our three hour journey on Monday talking
(01:14):
about what Sunday night football looked like, and it was
the Chargers dismantling the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers in particular
did not look good, looked a little skittish, looked a
little concerned, and we were just wondering, I mean, is
this going to be the norm moving forward? And so
Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, was asked about long
(01:37):
term concerns about his quarterback and had this to say,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Going to talk it up to an off night, but
there are no long term concerns. I'm just not going
to allow your words to be my words. That's all.
Sunday night was what it was. But I have no
long term reservations about his ability to play the position
and play the position at a high level for us.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
All Right, So there's there's the head coach talking about
his quarterback of the for now first place Pittsburgh Steelers,
and I don't know man, I'm not surprised he said that.
It's not like he's going to come out and be like, yeah,
you know, we have real concerns about him moving forward.
But I just don't know. They don't really have any
other choice. He's their guy. They've got a role with this,
(02:21):
and they've got to try and make sure that he
stays healthy and plays at a high level if they're
going to do anything, because their defense has not been
what I think a lot of people thought it was
going to.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Be this year. No, not for what they're they're paying
their defense. And I keep going back to this whole
time to throw stat because it was evident watching it,
like I seemed like as soon as Aaron Rodgers got
the ball in his hand, he wanted to get it out.
He leads the league in that he's gigging out faster
than any other quarterback. And then we I talked about
earlier in the week, and maybe it was a little
(02:49):
bit mostly on Monday, Tom Brady was on the exact
same thing in Tampa. Now, granted, you know this is
back in what twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one, you know,
those years when he was played laying at forty five,
forty four, forty three years old, so even more so
than where Aaron Rodgers is at now. Although we never
really came away saying like, okay, they like they don't
(03:13):
take you know, shots or chunks down the field, like
their team was still pushing the ball down the field
vertically despite him getting out of the ball out his
hand fast. You know, the other quarterback that fell into
that category I had to go back a little bit
was in twenty twenty Ben Roethlisberger his final year. I mean,
he was getting the ball out with in about two
(03:33):
seconds from the snap. And I don't know if you
remember this or not, but it was a combination of
the offense, the O line, and maybe even you'd say
at that point in time, you know, just you know guys,
you know, not getting open downfield. But it seemed like
the passing game was a little bit out of sync.
But he was adamant of getting the ball out of
(03:55):
his hand quick. And I'm not saying that this is
like indirect relation to the fact that you know, Aaron Rodgers,
Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, all those guys were very very
late in their career and didn't want to get hit.
But I think that's a part of it. Like, even
though there's an element of, well, these guys know where
to go at the football because they've been playing for
so long, everything's moving in slow motion, there's also an
(04:17):
element of they probably don't want to get hit. You know,
your most important ability is durability, and if you're out
there for the next series, you're out there to live
on to play the next down or live on to
play the next series. That's usually what makes you most
effective and is what's best for your team. So I'm
not knocking it. It's just the problem is when when
I'm watching the Steelers offense, there doesn't feel like there's
(04:41):
much of a I want to say threat because with
DK Metcalf and some of the other speed they've got,
with Austin and Wilson a wide receiver, there's a threat
of them being able to go downfield. But it doesn't
feel like it feels like they're reluctant.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To do so, I mean, doesn't it Isn't it also
fair to say that it's their first year together, Like
you could understand maybe why it wouldn't look as fluid
up to this point if they haven't all played together.
I mean they worked out together in the off season.
I get all that, but I think there also is
that and yeah, I look, I don't I don't blame
(05:15):
the guy for not wanting to get hit either. I've
said it to you before. I don't like the part
that would scare the f out of me if I
was a quarterback, is people at my feet, because I
would just assume, Oh, somebody's gonna roll into my knee
and it's just going to cave in, right. And you
know about my dislocated decap. I mean that's been chronicled
on this show for for years.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
It's such a tragic injury. I mean it is. No
one's ever had their kneecap dislocated do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Again, No, So I mean there's that, and there's also
the what you had happened to you to where you're
throwing through and you hit your hand on somebody's helmet.
Like both those things would just throw like I would
be awful. I'd either call for I checked down to
a handoff every single time, or I too would just
try and throw screen passes trying to avoid somebody's helmet
in front of me. So I get why he's skittish.
(06:01):
I just wonder when they're talking about and there was
this report that came out a couple of years, a
couple of weeks ago where they're saying, you know, the
Steelers are definitely open for him coming back next year.
Can we just get through this year, Like, can we
just see where he's at this year? Because that Sunday
night looked problematic, Like and I know, like Mike Tomlin
can dismiss it and say, you know, I don't have
(06:23):
any long term concerns, but it didn't look right. And
I think everybody had the same takeaway to where that
was one of the worst performances we've seen from Rogers optically.
It just didn't look right for him.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And I also keep going back to what the identity
of this team needs to be. Get back to running
the football, Like get back to you know, you don't
need to have Aaron Rodgers throw the football fifty times
a game. Like I don't want to keep making comparisons
to Tom Brady, but we're also in rarefy air where
you've got a guy who's you know, forty one doing
what he's doing. I mean, we can go look at,
(06:57):
you know, what Joe Flacco's doing, but when Burrow comes back,
Burrow's starter. So it's really Rogers and you know, a
guy like Tom Britty and what they were doing in Tampa,
and they were a team that was reluctant to run
the football. And I'm not saying that that necessarily took
away their chance from winning more than one Super Bowl,
but at that point in time in his career, I
don't know. I was kind of looking at thinking, wouldn't
(07:18):
you want to take some of the pressure off of him?
Or is your argument going to be like, hey, we
finally got this guy, like or if it's Pittsburgh, it's
been a while since we've had a Hall of Fame guy.
There's a gap between Ben Roethlisberger and now Aaron Rodgers.
So now that we've got him, we're gonna use him
and we're gonna throw the football as much as we
can because we trust him to make the right decision,
we trust him to get it out of his hands
(07:39):
and not get hurt. So I do wonder how much
that plays into it, But you're right. I mean, it
is the first year in this offense. It's the first
time Aaron Rodgers has worked with Arthur Smith. I mean,
I I'm one who always tries to preach patience about this.
I think we lack patients in general. I think we've
all gotten more impatient with them as we've gotten accustomed
(08:01):
to being able to do things at a rapid pace.
So that's that's a part of life, how we've all evolved,
and I think we've grown impatient with players being able
to get on the same page. But it's a difficult
task and the qualities that you have to have as
a quarterback in the NFL, where are throwing the football
(08:22):
and you've got to anticipate you're throwing the spots where
those guys aren't there yet. You've got to be able
to gauge how they run, how they get an in
and out of cuts. Like think about DK Metcalf and
the Adonis that he is and how he runs an
incut versus Calvin Austin. It's dramatically different. I mean, I
would guarantee you without even having to break down much film,
Calvin Austin gets in and out of cuts fast, where
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DK Metcalf probably has to break down a bit more,
or at least throttle down when he's running a bit
more to make those turns to make those cuts, and
so that spot where you're putting the football is going
to be different for each one of those guys. And
it's not just a height thing, it's just how they
run their routes, how they get in an out of cuts.
So learning that nonverbal communication, learning that body language takes time,
(09:07):
and you're not going to have enough time nowadays with
the cutdown off seasons. Even if they did work together
in the offseason to be able to win the ball
snapped in a real, live NFL game and you basically
having a quarterback who's getting out in two point five seconds,
it's gonna be really hard to make that look like
how it's supposed to look in year one, next year,
(09:28):
different story. But like you look at Matt Stafford, who's
operating at an extremely high level. How long has he
been with Sean McVay now five years, yeah, six years?
Wherever it's been. I mean, he's playing at an MVP
right now would be the MVP. That's how well he's
playing in that system with a lot of things that
have been kind of static out around h Now Paku
(09:50):
has been there for a couple of years. DeVante Adams
feels like he's he's mixed in well, but as far
as protection, what they're looking for the no look passes,
he's throwing no look passes because he knows guys are
going to be He's been in the system that long.
So yeah, it's there's definitely an element of that, But
there's gonna be a one to two from Rodgers, and
I think there's also got to be a to me
(10:12):
at least, there's got to be more of a precedent
set on saying we need to establish the run, like
this is still Pittsburgh. We need to be a physical
offense that's going to run the football first and then
build everything off of that, even with Aaron Rodgers as
your quarterback.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, I didn't realize they were thirtieth in the league
in rushing yards per game. I didn't realize that it
was that non existent there to where like when you're
you know, keeping company with Tennessee, like that's not good
on offense. And so I didn't realize that they were
so dependent because and by the way, if you were
to tell people, hey, through the first half of the year,
(10:49):
Pittsburgh's going to be thirtieth in the league in rushing
yards a game. Is that a good recipe for Aaron
Rodgers at this point in his career. No, No, that
was one of the things when the Matt Lafloor higher
was made in Green Bay that I thought of, because
I remember we were talking about when they made the
higher for Matt Lafloor and it was like, well, you know,
(11:10):
the Tennessee offense like wasn't really known for their passing attack.
They were more known for running the football. But as
it turns out, when they established the run there, they
were way better off to where it wasn't just him,
You had Aaron Jones, you had all like they were
way better off in Green Bay when they had a
consistent rushing attack. Pittsburgh doesn't have that, and so yeah,
(11:32):
you're relying on him to stand back there and throw
the ball when you're one of the worst rushing teams
in the league.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's not going to go well well and not to
again keep making the comparison, but you go back to
twenty twenty two or the Tampa Bay Bucks right in
Tom Brady's last year there thirty second in yards in rushing,
So it feels like it's a very similar formula. And
again you've got that guy Hughes, a first ballot Hall
of Famer, and you'd like to be able to utilize
(11:59):
him and you to be able to, you know, put
the bow in his hands as much as possible. I
just I feel like someone has to sit there and say,
you know, we know you're special, and we know what
you're capable of if we give you thirty thirty five attempts.
But what we'd like to do is say we're gonna
give you twenty to twenty five a game, and we
(12:19):
want you in those twenty twenty five to be just
as special, right, and we feel like there'll be better
opportunities for our offense, better opportunities for everyone else around you.
And mind you like we're in Pittsburgh, you were in
Green Bay. You know how this works. Like the weather's
gonna be inclemented work, there's gonna be times when we're
gonna have to be able to, you know, have the
ability to run the football. And I just don't know
if they've established that quite yet.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Why do you think Joe Flacco's better than him right now?
What is it like playing playing at a higher level?
Like what is it? Is it just the receivers on
the outside.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Or so you also have like t Higgins and Jamar
Chase who are phenomenal, So it's no disrespect to DK Metcalf.
He also just got there, so he's trying to develop
chemistry with Aaron Rodgers, and he's trying to learn the
offense too, so that plays a role. But I would
say those two receivers play are a really big part
in that.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean, but Flacco, have you seen signs of him
looking like skittish at all, Like he's just slinging it.
It's almost like he doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
He's just he does. He does play with like a
very care free you know ways back there where he
just seems like impervious to like yeah, you know, whatever happens, good, bad, whatever,
Like he's he's seen it all at this point.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, it's like what whatever, I was just on the Browns,
What do I care? Like, let's just go throw the ball,
Like it's just not even there's no care in though.
It's almost like it's almost like jok like it we're
almost like we're watching that in the NFL to where
Flaco's just out there slinging it.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, I think about this dude. I mean, he's like
he's he's been a Super Bowl MVP, Like, he's been
to the pinnacle of the sport with a great organization.
He has then been replaced by a guy who's been
one of the most dynamic, talented quarterbacks we've seen in
Lamar Jackson. So he went through that. He then went
(14:01):
through a period of time where he's kind of bounced
around and he's again seen it. He's kind of seen
it all. I mean, you go back to Anthony Richardson
last year basically, you know, trying to take off a
play and wave himself out. It's like, yeah, Flacco came
in and to basically take over for him the rest
of that season. Like he he got traded within the
division this year, Like how how often does that happen
(14:23):
to any player, let alone a quarterback. So when you
really break it down, like, look, what's he going to
be surprised by. He's seen it all on the field.
It's happened all to him as a player, and so yeah,
he kind of just goes back there and it slugs
it around, man, and I love it like it is
it is. And he's such a good dude. And if
you talk to him too, you just have such an
(14:44):
appreciation for his perspective and what he's done and how
like grounded he is. But he is one of the
And he's a funny guy too, man. I mean he's
a Philly guy, Soho's got a good sense of humor.
Good Win. But I just I think, I think you
look at his experience this point where I don't feel
like he had, like he feels like anyone owes him
anything or there should be any expectation. He just goes
(15:07):
out in place. It feels different for Rogers. It feels
like he's got something to prove, whether it's to Green
Bay who moved on from him, or the Jets who
moved on from him. When I watch him play, it
feels like there's a bit of that weight or pressure
on him. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
And Flaco's like, oh, dude, like I played for the Jets,
I played for the Browns.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I know what that's like.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Like, I don't like, I mean you need to like
I had to come in off the couch because you know,
Deshaun Watson got injured. I had to sit and hear
all the storylines about shit or Sanders and training, Like
do you think I like, what do I care about this?
Just give me the ball, Let's go sling it around.
Like my family's back home. I'm sitting at you know,
bars by myself, you know, eating dinner in the in
(15:50):
the middle of the week, just like dude, he just doesn't.
It just seems like, and I don't know how how
we're looking at his career. And I'm not saying that
Joe Flacco's a Hall of Famer. He's had a marvelous career.
He's had an unbelievable career where we're going to look
back on and go, you know what, Joe Flacco was awesome, Like,
he really was awesome. And if you go back to
(16:11):
that Super Bowl, that was when Baltimore hadn't given him
the long term deal. And I still remember this because
it was basically, hey, Joe Flacco bet on himself and
in that playoff run, he was awesome and he was
actually a really good playoff quarterback. And look, I don't
think Cincinnati's going to the playoffs this year and Joe
Burrow is probably going to be back anyways. But if
you look at Joe Flacco's playoff numbers, there was a
(16:33):
time where he was lights out in the postseason. Basically
bet on himself and the contract he got was like
twenty million dollars a year. Like we're going to look
back on Joe Flacco's career and be like, dude, he
was awesome and it's sort of understated and underrated because
he was in the AFC with Brady and all those
great quarterbacks and all the other ones that got all
the attention. But he's been fantastic man, And I watch
(16:56):
him play and I'm like, there's no concerns, Like I
don't care, Like whatever you listen by, I throw three picks.
It is what it is. I'm gonna keep slinging it.
I don't care. What's the worst is going to happen
to me?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
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and subscribe. So Sean McDermott, the Bills head coach, Amazing
things happen when you're I think a seven and a
half point favorite and you go to Miami and you
get pistol whipped by the Miami Dolphins, who are an
awful team, and their head coach then trolls Bills fans
at the Elbow Room in Fort Lauderdale. Weird things happen,
(19:25):
like people you know, start to ask questions about your
offensive coordinator, Joe Brady, and about what's going on there
in Buffalo from an offensive standpoint, and could there potentially
be a return to that same position from somebody who
now finds himself out of a job in the NFL.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Well, Joe's a good coach, he really is. We've got
a really good offensive staff. You know, they've had really
good games. You're gonna you're gonna have some games you
want back, some play calls you want back. Those happen,
so it's how you respond to them. And I'm fully
confident in our offensive staff and Joe is our leader
that we will we will make the adjustments we need
to make and move us forward.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I know the news is very very fresh, but with
what happened with Brian day Ball, given his history here
in Buffalo and his relationship with Josh, would there be
any consideration reaching out to him to see if he
had any interest in joining the staff and in.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Any way, Yeah, no, I understand why you're asking that.
Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to
him at this point. That's that's not under any type
of consideration.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
So there you go. If anybody who was looking for
the reunion with the Buffalo Bills and Brian Dayball and
Josh Allen, they're gonna have to wait a little bit.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah. I just when does that ever happen where guy's
gotten fired as a head coach and immediately joins another team.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You imagine Sean McDermott's like, yeah, listen, I'm glad you
brought that up. He'll be here to today, Like.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, he's actually the back room right now, wait to
come out here. We're going to introduce you. What title
we giving him? Do you have offsets? All right, we'll
figure this out.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Brian da Ball And he just comes down and I
just got fired.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, Hey, guys, wasn't that far of a trip, you know,
I was just uh down in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Body's not even cold. What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I don't know, man, I just is it that time
of the year where you know, reporters get bored or
was it more they just they sit in a room
by themselves and they just they think like, yeah, this
would be a good idea, this would be a good
question to ask, like this will yeah yeah, Like yeah,
he'll answer this like there's a chance this could happen.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I mean, why why would Brian Because I'm assuming, just
to entertain the conversation, I'm assuming if you were to
take the offensive coordinator job, which is just preposterous, I'm
assuming that would the Giants then be off the hook
for whatever they were paying him? Was Wasn't that part
of the reason why? I think it was why Matt
(21:53):
Patricia was what didn't wasn't really given a label in
New England because if he was given a label in
New England to try, would would be wouldn't have to
be held responsible for paying him a portion of his
contract that was still remaining or something along the head lines. Correct,
So why would Brian da Ball give up money he's
getting for not doing anything to go take over as
(22:16):
offensive coordinator in Buffalo in week eleven?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think the I mean, that's rather obvious, you know
why you wouldn't? I think the next questions more of
is or would Brian Dable be willing to take a
lesser role? In general, once you become a head coach,
and he was obviously a head coach for a few years.
It wasn't like he was a head coach for a
(22:42):
year and got fired. You know, he was a head
coach for a while now to the point where he
wants another opportunity at it. He wants to go and
he wants to be able to do some things. I'm
sure a little bit different, but he'll probably look at
different situations and circumstances and think, if I was the
head coach, this is how what I've done things, and
I could make that team more successful. Like, once you
(23:05):
get to a certain level or status, you don't want
to go back. I mean, that's the reality of being
a head coach is you have complete control, or at
least in that situation, you had complete control as the
head coach of what your staff, what your team's going
to do. So you don't want to have to go
(23:26):
back to just being an OC or a DC or
a special teams coordinator. You know, that's a step back
in your mind. I think we all who are out
there working, we want to keep climbing. We'd like to
keep you know, moving past and moving beyond where we're
currently at, and to go take a lesser role, it's
it feels backwards. So I think that's the other thing
(23:48):
about this that I mean, the guy is purely basically
his question off of you know, the past history that
Brian Dable and obviously the Buffalo Bills have had, but
for Brian Dabba, like why would he want that? I mean,
you know, he doesn't want to have to go back
to that and having to have someone else ultimately dictate
(24:09):
his schedule for his life and ultimately dictate, you know,
what's going to happen to his career. I mean, think
about that, Like you're putting your hands in another guy's
career or you excuse me, your career in another guy's hands.
With how you go about choosing who you want to
coach for until you become a head coach, that's what
you're doing. Like is this guy going to be able
(24:31):
to be a good leader? Is this guy not going
to mess things up? Like, think about any assistance out
there who signed on to be with a coach who
is a head coach he got canned in his first year.
Like you just uprooted your family, you just found a
place to live. You've just maybe gotten into a routine
at that city or in that city, and next thing
(24:55):
you know, you're the rub getting rug gets ripped from
out underneath you. You got to coach fired halfway through the season,
and you've got the entire staff looking for the next job.
Your kids are now sitting there saying, like, Dad, are
we were going to be in school here next semester?
Next year, we're gonna hang around. We just I just
started to make friends. Like think about all those things
(25:15):
that impact your personal life. So again, I just I
don't know that he's gonna want to go back. I
think if anything, he'll you know, be patient and maybe
look for that next head coaching job, wherever that may be.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Do you think that he's somebody who needs a pit
stop as an OC in order to get considered for
another job.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Already did it? Already did it. He went back to
New England after he had stints in you know, Cleveland
and Kansas City and others. He did that. He went
to Bama. I mean you went to the both car washers.
I mean call plays in out you know, at all
Obama to get back up into the NFL. So you know, again,
once your head coach, I mean, you can go call
(25:57):
plays for someone you respect and all that. I mean,
Josh McDaniel, unless you get the head coaching job, He's
not going anywhere so, you know, and I'm not sure
Mike Grabil, you know, would how well he knows Brian
Dable and we would have won him. But you know,
Bill Belichick's out there anymore, and Nick Saban's out of coaching,
So I'm not sure where you go, you know, after
this and what role you take. But yeah, maybe, because
(26:20):
he's done it before, he would see that as an
avenue to get his name back out there and all
that maybe be TV. You know, Brian's a very charismatic guy.
He's a super smart, witty guy. He likes to have fun.
I think most people who cover, who covered the Bills,
who covered probably the Giants, probably enjoyed him, enjoyed taking
all he's a he's a great dude. Players you know,
(26:40):
love him as a person. It just it didn't work
out with New York.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, the Josh I've said this before, Drake May finds
himself in a pretty advantageous spot because I don't I
can't imagine Josh McDaniels is going to get another opportunity
to coach. I just can't.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
He will. It just will take some time.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Because and now you know what, he's back there, Drake
May is playing the way he's playing, and you know
he's just gonna he's gonna ride that. There's gonna be
no inconsistency. He's not gonna have to worry about him
leaving to go else where anytime soon.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It just why do you keep saying that? Because he'll
he'll eventually get a head coaching opportunity. It was this league.
This league is starving for offensive minds. It's an offensive
league to lead their franchise, and eventually it'll come back around. Well,
they'll say, man, you know when Drake May just want MVP. Oh,
the Patriots just won a Super Bowl again. You know
with the Drake may Man that offense is so good,
(27:34):
maybe we shouldn't interview Josh McDaniels. Like it always comes
back around. And organizations that I'm not gonna say it
like desperate, but when they needed a head coach. They've
got a young, promising quarterback, and they see what Josh
mccannis is doing with Drake May, they will come knocking.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I mean, the Raiders was a disaster.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean that the way that holding, how are they
doing now?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, I would agree with you, but I think that
there was enough stories out of there that maybe people wonder,
you know, is he fit for the job. I'm not
saying he's not. I'm just saying I wonder if there's
enough people around the NFL to go. Denver went the
way that it went, The Raiders went the way that
it win. He had his chance.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I get that. And there's obviously the Colts story, which
you know, bothered people. Whatever what it was, signed signs snaff.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I don't know. That's how long we've been doing the
show together like that, we still remember the facts that
was in play for Josh McDaniels, who supposedly was accepting
the Indianapolis Colts job according to the Colts, except he
never actually signed on the dotted line, which is kind
of important, and the Colts just ran with the story
anyways on social media. That's a lot we've been doing
(28:43):
this show.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
But they found themselves now in a good spot, so,
you know, water under the Bridge. I would go back
and say this, Look, the Raiders have been in a
tough spot for a while, so I'm not sure you
put that fully on him, even though it again, it
didn't look good. The Broncos were off to a six,
and I was start it was hot, and then I
feel you know, I wasn't there. I don't know exactly
what happened. I know in year two, you know what
(29:07):
took place, and you know he was dismissed without you know,
finishing that season. And I think the tough thing is
in each one of those situations. And again I don't
care and speak to the Raiders, but you know, even
for the Broncos, you know, it took them going to
get you know, Gary Kubiak and Peyton Manning, and you
know that gave them that run of success with John
(29:27):
Fox and then into Kubiak, but you know, since then
then they kind of went through this lull. I'm trying
to figure it out again, and I feel like the
ownership was somewhat unstable, you know, during that time, and
mister Bowlan, who was a tremendous man and incredible owner,
but he wasn't, you know, at that point in time,
(29:48):
kind of overseeing it all. And so that that plays
a role in all of that. And I'm and again
the Broncs in a completely different position now and a
much better spot now, and they've got that stability with
Sean Payton is their head coach, and obviously with the
new ownership group but I do think that that probably
played a little bit of a role too, and how
(30:08):
some of the things went there in Denver looking back
on it now, So I don't know. Again, I think
he'll get another opportunity. Hopefully we'll work together long enough
to be able to see that opportunity where he does
sign the dotted line and you have to eat crow again.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm with you, man, Hey, I think we're coming up
on ten years together, like we're getting marks. Yeah, we're
coming up on a decade too long. Yeah, coming off
on a decade.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
LeVar is probably gonna kill it off when it's all
said done.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
So yeah, that's going to be on his h on
his conscious that we had a ten year run going
and he spoiled the party. Like I mean, we're one
of the longest running duos at this network if you
think about it. That's impressed long and by the way,
longest tenured team that you've ever had.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
That is true. Yeah, who's actually been together longer than us?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I think maybe Jasonson.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Not the Odd Couple, Yeah nothing, not the Odd Company.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
No, No, because I want to know part of Rob
after a while, I don't blame him. And then I
would say uh, Coveno and Rich, but not at this network.
They've been together a long time. Yeah, there's not a
lot man like, Yeah, Chris playing one, Arnie Spanier, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon. I don't know, but we're we're in contention.
(31:24):
We're definitely up there. I could like we've paid our dues. Also,
you know, I was thinking about when we're talking about
guys that were head coaches and at a certain point
they'll get an opportunity again. You know who I love
has handled it the right way. Adam Gase man up
and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hey, you
know what f this like, I'm just gonna go do
(31:45):
what I do. I don't even know what he's doing now,
Like what.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Is he his kids? Yeah, he's raising his kids for him,
which is admirable too because he'll have the opportunity to
get back into it when he wants to. But he's
been concer there's he's been still staying active and busy,
like doing film breakdown stuff like that. But you know,
he he's I think he had an earnout from the Jets,
(32:11):
so obviously he couldn't do anything. I think until that
earnout was finished, but he was just being a dad,
you know, getting you know, back healthy, raising his kids.
So he he kind of took some time away from it,
and we were just understandable too, Like I think people
tend to forget. Yeah, you're highly compensated, but you don't
realize the impact that it has on your kids and
on your family and the stress they go through and
(32:34):
the stuff they have to deal with on top of
that too. So uh, he's he's doing great though. I
actually I saw him probably about a year ago. It
looked like he was in really good spirits. So I'm
sure he'll get back to it again again. All these
young guys that you're like writing off just because the
prior head coaching experience didn't work, they grow and they
learn from this. It's not like it's gonna be the
(32:54):
same thing the next time around.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Why do I get labeled as a guy writing them
off simply.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Because you're the one I said, josh Daniels will not
be a head coaching.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Obso, like if I was a betting man, I would
say not. I like Joshua Daniels. But I just think
that there's a repida because.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Here's the other thing is you get like the first
time head coaches in the NFL who go into him
and when it is a disaster because they, again they
don't know what they're doing. You get teams that are like, well,
I don't want to do that, you know, I'd rather
find a guy who, like again Brian Callahan's time in Tennessee,
he was set up to fail in the first place,
(33:28):
but it did work out well. And when teams are
going to look at that and say, well, we are
scared of doing that, We'd rather bring in a guy
and even if he hasn't been the most successful, if
he's got prior head coaching experience, he knows what to expect.
We're going to have someone who's who's not here making
decisions for the first time, or we have to bring
in people to help him, like he's going to know
(33:48):
what to do.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Yeah, well, look, I hope they all get another opportunity,
and I hope we continue on because the fact that
the NFL continues to turn and burn six or seven
or eight coaches a year is still wild. Like it's
almost a third of the league gets clipped every single
year in the NFL, So you talk.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
About this is kind of crazy. If you think about that, right.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It doesn't like it's and nobody looks at that. They
just go, oh, well, you know who's getting It's like
we we almost celebrate Black Monday, like, oh well it's
Black Monday. It's like, okay, awesome, guys are getting fired
and they're getting their dream shattered. Yeah, they're making a
lot of money. Okay, Well you know when they were,
you know, making you know, four dollars an hour trying
to come up the ranks. You know, they weren't doing
(34:30):
it because of the pay. They were doing it because
they wanted to be a code. That was their goal.
And they get that opportunity and next thing you know,
they're out the door and it's like, well it's black Monday.
Who got fired again?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Like and then there's you got paparazzi that are now
following Brian Dayball. There's like pictures on the internet on
social media of Brian Dayball outside his home. Dude, they
did the same thing with jo Judge. Just let the guy,
Let the guy move on with his life. Okay, it
didn't work out, all right, stop, Let's let's let the
guy enjoy the holidays with his family and that's it.
(35:04):
All right, we don't need the Papa Rozzi following him
around because he's a Giants coach that got fired. And
if you're gonna do that, that's probably gonna happen with
the next guy that's gonna get clipped from the Giants.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
It's just I just I just searched this. There's some
d bag on Instagram and the title with the picture
is spotted at home. It's like, right, all right, moron,
where else do you I mean, like, yeah, we all
have a home, we live somewhere, like of course it's
a photo of him like outside his.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Home, like ok like he's diddy like spotted Like.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
It's just it's more like, okay, like where else did
you want him to be? Like at a coffee shop?
Or you're mad you didn't get a photo from there?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
By the way, I think I think in that picture,
if I'm not mistaken, day Balls weren't a Penn State sweater.
I think he's more like a Penn State hoodie. You know,
So I think there is that. So it just yeah,
the whole thing is, you know, it's kind of crazy. Also,
do we have a I don't know, should we save this?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
You know, I mean we'll actually, you know, let's just
let's just mention this here. This for some reason, this
was breaking news. I don't know there was that big
of a.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Deal, but.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Jamis Winston elevated to number two quarterback and expected to
start on Sunday in the event Jackson Dart doesn't clear
the concussion protocol. Per Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network,
Winston was moved ahead of Russell Wilson as interim coach
Mike Kafka informed them. So there is that.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I don't know why they didn't put Jamis Winston as
the backup for this most recent game, Like basically, since
they benched Russell Wilson, it should have been Winston the
rest of the time. I'm not really sure why that
move wasn't made before.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I mean, Russell Wilson man that I can't catch a break.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Well, it's not even that, it's just like, you know,
the head coach had kind of moved on. It felt
like maybe even the team had moved on to degree
and you know, Russell got his opportunity, Jackson got to
go in when he was hurt. You probably should give
Jamis an opportunity. Like, again, a very capable quarterback doesn't
have the same resume as Russell, but I mean doesn't
hurt to try, right, you.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Can go out there slinging it. It's gonna be Joe
Flacco again. It's gonna happen. He was doing it last year.
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Speaker 5 (38:03):
It cannot adjust.
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It's been it's just been doing it.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
You're an old dog man. They can't teach a new tricks.
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Just been doing it for so long, for so long,
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
All right, Bremiro, who's got what this week? All right?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
E Jonas, you're up, You're you got.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
The good first.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
So the good for this week is this show without LeVar.
I think it's been smooth. I think there's been a
real opportunity unities here to showcase our skill sets, and
I feel like this show has been better than any
show we've done this week, and it's pretty glaringly obvious
(39:11):
why that is. It's because LeVar is not here. So
that's my good for the week.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
All right, you ready, euroupe?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
You got the bad? The bad? Well, that would be
Kentucky last night losing the in state rival Louisville. As
some people know, I've been raised a big Kentucky Wildcat fan,
in particular for men's basketball, and uncle who played football.
There's Steve Slat's almost Steve, so you know, like any
(39:40):
other Bandwagon fan, they were really good when I was young.
My uncle went there, we grew up going down to Lexington,
so became a fan. I just they're so talented, man,
and I feel like they just they underachieved defensively. It
was a nightmare and the almost gave up one hundred
points of Louisville last night. So I don't know. I
don't know on the fence right now about Mark Pope,
(40:02):
I thought he was the guy. I thought he made
a lot of sense. I just I don't know. I
thought last night was one of those measuring stick games,
and clearly Kentucky basketball is now where it needs to be.
So last night that was bad. Almost actually as bad
as the take you just had.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
What do you mean bad? Like, I can end at
whatever reward I want.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I miss var, I miss him, man, I don't.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Alrighty and I have the ugly and so I'm going
to say my saint's fandom is pretty ugly because Tyler
Shuck played on any when they beat the Panthers, and
now I'm like rooting for Tyler Shuck even though I
was Spencer Rattler for the first like, you know, eight weeks,
nine weeks. So that's the ugly for me. Wow, I know,
I know, yeah, not loyal, not loyal at all.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I call that ugly, but it's not good
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Well mean, but you are low you still root for
the same I know that's true, but go Tyler Shuck.
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