November 12, 2025 • 40 mins
Jonas & Brady open hour 1 reacting to the new College Football Playoff rankings, then wonder why it took so long for the Mavericks to let go of GM Nico Harrison + coach vs reporter ICYMI!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, comeing up on
this Wednesday edition. Where is LeVar? We will explain and
why is State College to blame? Plus we're going to
have a conversation about the college football playoff rankings. There
could be craziness, especially in the ACC. We'll get into that.
We're also going to talk about the crazy move that
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was made in the NBA that costs somebody their job
less than a year later. We've got another edition of
In case you missed it. We've also got our Midweek
Awards and the old p Petris Papadaka stops by. We've
got another edition of the Leftovers as well too. And
what's left over from the Giants news when it comes
to firing Brian Daveball their head coach, Well, we've got
another quarterback change and apparently day Ball is going to
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concern about Aaron Rodgers not to Mike Tomlin. All that
is yours next here, Two Pros and a cup of
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Now it's just you and I today, Brady, It's just
us because well what happened LeVar. For some reason, that
man that travel back from State college just a real
pain in the ass. You know, the travel there is
a pain because you lose three hours and it takes
four days to get there without the time change the
travel back. For some reason, he always seems to hit
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a snag. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Let me sell you something. It is an advertisement to
not take that head coaching job. I'm trying to explain
to him, like you all got to do something about
the airport situation there. It literally takes away from the
entire experience and people can get upset who are Penn
State fans, But you know it. I know it. It's
hard to drive to, it's hard to fly into. There's
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not many options. You need a bigger airport. I'm sorry
you do. And so you're the biggest school, I would
say in the state. I think it's bigger in pitt
Go lobby the state, like, go, go figure out a
way of getting more funds to get a bigger airport,
to get more flights or better flights in there. It
is awful to get in and out of it. By
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the way, it's one of the only bad things about
Penn State though it's really just the airport situation. But
it does feel like every single time LeVar goes there,
he is embarking on the Oregon Trail and it just
takes some days to be able to get back.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah. So yeah, that's why he's not here. So we're
assuming he'll be back by tomorrow. We're assuming that's gonna happen,
and he will be here tomorrow. But nonetheless, there'll be
no LeVar, so no sticks here. It'll be Brady Quinn
and I had taken you all the way up during
this three hour journey. College football playoff rankings came out
Volume two Ohio State Indiana, Texas A and m Alabama, Georgia.
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Top five stays the same. What jumped out to you,
I was doing a little bit of a deep dive
trying to figure out what the.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Hell is going on To tell you what was the
deep dive. The ACC is confusing the hell out of it.
It's crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't understand, like there's I've seen like some potential
that maybe nobody gets in. I've seen like just people
are thrown out all sorts of scenarios trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's highly unlikely. And so just so people understand where
the ACC is at, there's five teams right now that
are in position to potentially play for the conference championship.
And that's significant for this reason. Duke, who sits with
four losses, only has one loss in conference play, so
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they can play spoiler. They can end up being a
team that ultimately with little help, ends up winning out
and then plays in the conference championship wins, it wins
the ACC. And the thought is that how it's stated
in the College Football Playoff is that the five highest
rank conference champions will get in, and everyone seems to
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think that or assume that it'll be the conference champions
of the Power for and then the highest rank group
of six. Although the AAC is another league that's highly competitive,
and in particular if it's Tulane, who I believe only
has one loss in conference play, If Tulane happens to
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win out and win the AAC, well, they beat Duke
head to head. So the College Football Playoff Committee, based
on their own criteria, would have to allow Tulane to
get in over Duke, given that they have a better
record and they actually beat him head to head and
they are a conference champ. And then the wild cards
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James Madison. Madison could go twelve and one, they could
win the Sun Belt, and that would be the other
team that you could potentially have higher ranked than Duke
at that point, just because Duke has four losses and
you know, again they'd be winning the ACC, but they
wouldn't have the head to head tie break over Tallane
and jam you obviously has a better record overall, So
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there's the thought that that could happen. I haven't looked
at enough of the models. I don't think it's going
to happen. I think Duke would be the fifth highest
ranked team in that regard, but we'll see. And by
the way, like Duke would have probably a couple more
quality wins in the eyes of the committee than James Madison.
But the problem is, you know, again the overall record,
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James Madison would have a twelve and one record, which'd
be pretty good. And they are a good football team,
by the way, like Indiana's essentially playing with a lot
of James Madison players that Kurt Signetty brought with him
to Indiana these past couple of years, and they're most
likely to get drafted in the NFL. So for people
who don't know about James Madison, they got a good
football team and they're probably gonna win the Sun Belt.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, it's wild man, And just to think that whatever
they roll out this week, things are gonna change next
week and we just continue on until we get the
final team.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What was I think what's most interesting is people are
still bitching about the whole Notre Dame where they're ranked
and Miami and Miami did move up a few spots
after the win this week, but look, I get it,
like there is the element of head to head play.
Miami beat Notre Dame, and there is something to be
said for that, So I do wonder when that comes
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into play in the final rankings if Miami wins out. Now,
Miami is a team that's lost twice in conference play.
I didn't mention them as one of those teams. It's
basically like everyone else's who's in contention for the ACC
besides Miami. But again, like Miami's ranked higher than Georgia Tech,
who's got a better chance of eight and one of
playing for the ACC championship. UVa's A and two. They've
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only lost once in conference play, though they're part of
that conversation. So there's a lot of teams that are
in the as you know, Louisville, for example, is not
one of those teams, but it will probably be Jeordia
Tech and UVA. By the way, But the arguments like
this whole and I get it, but you also have
to look at what Miami has done the last three weeks.
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I mean, got to win this past week, but you know,
they lost two of the last three before that or
whatever it was. Notre Dame has won seven in a
row and they're beating the crap out of teams. You know,
they just beat at what seven to one Navy team
that was a part of that conversation. AAC. AAC has
a lot of teams playing for it, so I'm not
sure how the committee views And i'd ask you, like,
how do you view at the end of the season,
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a team that's won, let's say Notre Dame wins out
the win ten in a row. How do you view
that amongst a team that's maybe lost, you know, twice
in the past six games.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I would take the team that's going that's hot at
the current moment as opposed to the team that won
a game back in September. I mean, it's it's look
in the NFL, the Raiders beat the Patriots in Week one.
Things change and I just look at it, and I say,
for whoever's complaining, you can't just win one game early
on and think that's just going to carry the weight
of your entire season. When you've come up short in
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other spots throughout the course of the year and the
other team goes on a heater. That's the part, and
I understand why people want to hold on to that,
but it sort of falls apart when you factor in
there's been two months of football since. You can't just
bank on that one win and say, well, that should
put us ahead of them. What happened after that? What
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did you do after that? And whatever they want to
complain about the schedule and whatnot. That's the part where
that's the advantage to scheduling those games early on, because
you have time to make up for it if you
do fall apart, much like what happened with Northern Illinois.
As it turned out at the end of the year,
Miami is one of the top two teams in the
country and we look back on that Northern Illinois game
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and go, well, yeah, what happened there, or we can
look at at what happened every other week after that
up until the College Football Champion like that. That's the
part that I think people you're just holding on to
one win and not focusing on the other opportunities to
win games throughout the stretch, which you came up shorted.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's how I feel about it. I do wonder how
last year's results in the playoff played a role in that.
You know, Ohio State was a team that made it
in but made it as an at large bid and
obviously got on a run and ended up and then
by the way, that was like trusting your eyes and
trusting the eye test. Because Ohio State was such a
talented team. We knew that, but they never really played
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up to it until they got into the College Football Playoff.
You know, Notre Dame was a team who ripped off,
you know, well to ten eleven whatever it was after
the Illinois game. And you know, they were one of
those hot teams that got in similar to Ohio State
and then kind of went on the run, even though
they finished the season like that. And I wonder if
they were looking at Notre Dame in a similar fashion, saying, hey,
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same head coach, the team actually looks like it's got
a more balanced offense. Their defense has improved mightily. Maybe
that's a team that we say, all right, we're putting
them in position because they don't play a conference championship
game that if they do went out like we want
them in there. We think they're one of the top
twelve best. And that's what you've tasked the committee with doing.
For people who get upset about it's like, the reality
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is they just want to try to put the best
twelve teams in there, and going back and looking at
last year, I'm sorry, SMU, they didn't feel like that
was a really great performance. You know, they felt like
they got in based on the resume and the ACC.
But the ACC you know, maybe doesn't stack up quite
as well as some of the others. And there's some
other teams too that they're probably looking at saying, yeah,
maybe we redo this again. That's why they've redone. How
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they're doing the buys where they're just gonna say, hey,
the top four teams that we think are the best
for they're gonna get the buys this year. We're not
doing this whole like the you know, four highest rank
conference champions. The other thing I point out is, and
it's kind of interesting to me, Oregan Organ's eight and
one fotball team. They got a good, gutsy win on
the road, bad weather in Iowa City, but i was
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probably their best I shouldn't say probably Iowa is their
best win, an eighteen six win over Iowa. Outside of that,
like that Penn State win doesn't look the same. I know,
Happy Valley's tough place to play. That was before James
Frank was fired. That was, you know, you know, back
when Drew Aller was there as their quarterback. But I mean,
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I don't know, Like I'm kind of looking Oregon. I
think they look like they're one of those talented teams,
but fir as high as their ranked, I don't really
get it. I mean, the meat of their schedule kind
of comes at the end versus sc in a couple
of weeks and then Washington. But I like, I have
more of a gripe, or I would have more of
a gripe if I was a you know, college football
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fan and looking at these rankings saying, why the heck
is organ ranked so high? I mean, I realize they
have one loss, but like, who have they really beaten?
And I'm not advocating, by the way, from the name
of ranked higher or anyone else, but I'm just saying,
you look at some of these teams and you look
at like what they've done, like Utah, you know Utah.
You know again, their resume as it stacks up, doesn't
stack up quite as well, but they've got them slow
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fied at thirteen. So there's there's a number of teams
that I'm kind of looking at saying the committee wants
them around or in the vicinity, either to find a
way of getting them in if all hell breaks loose
or because they wanted to make a case for some
of these other teams if that team gets knocked off
or beat.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, And I wonder, and it's a hypothetical because
the game played out, but I do wonder how far
would Indiana have dropped had they lost to Penn State. Like,
I wonder how much they would have been punished for that,
because they weren't punished at all. There was no movement,
and that was a game where they didn't look good
at all. And give credit to Penn State, but it
took a really impressive drive and a toe touch in
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the back of the end zone, one of the great
catches you'll ever see for them to win and beat
Penn State in Happy Valley. With all the injuries and
the coaching change and all that. I just wonder how
much they would have been punished for something like that
had they lost that game.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I think you could have made the case that
if there was a time to move Texas A and
M ahead of Indiana, And there are a lot of
sec you know, trumpers or you know, people who believe
that they should already be ahead. The hard thing is,
you know, again, going back to Texas A, and M's schedule.
You know, they beat Notre Dame, like that's there that
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if you now granted they've they've played through the SEC,
which if you're an sc SEC you know, biased fan,
you think it's the greatest conference in the world. Missouri's
not ranked. LSU's obviously not ranked anymore, like who is
am beaten outside of Notre Dame, which by the way,
probably should have lost with a guy with a holding
call and the final play that gave you that win.
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Otherwise you lose, you know. But some people would say that,
like they feel like Texas and m should be ranked higher.
A lot of people are trying to make that argument.
But if there was ever a week to do it, yeah,
this probably would have been that week to do it,
even though it was a great, gutsy win only because
of again how close that game was versus a team
that's really struggled. But I do think the committee looks
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at Penn State. It's like they're kind of a new
team now and they're starting to like find themselves offensively.
You know, going back and watching that tape, there's something
going on on offense, because the first half the offense
looked like it looked like with James Franklin, and the
second half they started throwing the football down the field.
And I'm wondering if the internead coach Terry Smith, if
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he had just said, hey, we're gonna take some shots here,
like what do we have to lose? Because it did
that LA offense in the second half look entirely different,
and it started to open some things up and sort
of to help out Penn and State become the team
that maybe they are destined to be this year and unfortunately,
for whatever reason, you just haven't been.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So DraftKings has this option where you can go on
there and you can find to make the college football
playoff or not. Give me a long shot, and I'll
tell you what the payout would be. Somebody that you
look at and go, nobody's paying attention to this team.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
James Madison. All right, James Madison will be an interesting
one to throw in there.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Plus two fifty so one n fifty if James Madison
makes the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay, let's do this again. Can you give me Duke.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Duke is plus six hundred so six to one.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, Wow, how about Tulane.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Plus six fifty?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Interesting? So there I mean and again JM. You giving
their record all that, maybe that's why some people feel
look feel confident and to the Duke point, like Duke plays.
You know, they got to play Uva, which will ultimately
decide if they beat Uva. You know, they got to
get through Virginia Tech. Excuse me, they got to get
through North Carolina Wake Forest. But if they beat Uva,
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they could be very well playing for the a SEC championship.
Now winning it's another another thing and another problem. But
that that, I mean, that scenario is out there. I
mean it's very very possible. I should put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Now, you mentioned a team yesterday. I only know this team,
I swear to God because I know their most famous
alma mater is or a famous alum is Stone Cold
Steve Austin because he played defensive end there North Texas,
North Texas. North Texas is plus two hundred. So they're sitting.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I mean victing it in. Whoever wins the AAC,
I would assume would make it in like they. I
mean maybe not. Maybe if the AC kind of blows
up the last you know, a few weeks and you've
got you know, a three loss conference champ I don't
see that being the case, but they've got they're very
similar to the a U. The ACC is the AAC.
They both have a ton of teams in the mix,
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and these final few weeks were kind of determine it.
So they look to be the most entertaining though. I mean,
anytime you have a quarterback who has a story like
mess to Maker, who I don't think he started for
his high school team, I mean he was a converted
converted into a quarterback, and this young man's throwing for
like over six hundred yards. Their offense is a ton
of fun to watch. I mean it's as high like
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high powered, fast paced. They have balanced too with what
they can do, but they can sling it all around.
So that's and then, by the way, Messa makers an
interesting prospect for the future as far as teams will
drool over him because they feel like there's so much upside.
He's he's big, he's got the porta table size, he's
a great athlete, he can run, and he's still evolving
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as a quarterback. So it's it's kind of a it's
a great story regardless, but also like he's going to
be a great story too when it comes to the draft,
which I believe. I don't think he's draft eligible yet,
but he might be. So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So he doesn't play at all in high school? He's
the backup in high school and he gets an up.
Was there an injury?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I mean, Ryan Tannehill was wide receiver before he became
quarterback at Texas A and M. It's not that uncommon.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And by the way, he had had a fairly good
career in kind a great career money wise, people thought
was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I would put him up there. I mean, there's Kirk Cousins,
all right. I mean Russell Wilson's up there too. I
think when we think about guys who are in the
Hall of Fame of Business in the NFL, you have
to throw into like at one point their career wasn't
where it like needed to but they wanted it to be.
But they're still making a ton of money. Obviously, Kirk Cousins,
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I think is the number one. He's the goat in
the Hall of Fame of Business in the NFL. You've
probably got Russell Wilson on there. You've definitely got Ryan
Tannehill on there. And there's a few other guys as well,
who are just completely I mean, Jacoby Rists getting up there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Ryan Tannehill has made one hundred and ninety five million
dollars in his career. Yeah, and that career was spent
in Florida and Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Good for you, Sid Income Sacks. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I didn't even realize that he had made that much money.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's all I'm saying. That he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
No wonder he hasn't come back yet. Remember there was
all this talk like wins Tannehal going to come back.
He's taking a year off. It's turned into two years.
Good for him, that's great. I mean, you know, Tennessee
hasn't been the same. They've been trying to figure out
quarterback ever since. Don't tell Prisco that because I know
a big Will Levis guy. But yeah, that's wow. That's impressive.
So there it is. There's your there's your volume two
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of the college football playoff Rankings. And then, uh, when
do we When do we head to Chicago to be
part of the extravagance at Wrigley Field this weekend? When's
that happening?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, it's it's a busy week I get to call
the Atlanta Falcons versus Carolina Panthers. So the Falcon's obviously
just getting back from Berlin, but I've got to go
visit the Panthers tomorrow for practice and meetings, and then
I'll eventually make my way to Chicago Friday and then
back to Atlanta Saturday. So a lot of moving parts,
a lot of moving parts going on right now.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, Well, you know, it just depends. Most people can't
handle that, but it depends on who you are. You can,
that's the best part.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well I can, but you know, I'm not sure if
you can. I know one person can. It's definitely LeVar.
LeVar definitely cannot handle that sort of travel. But one
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quick any here or twice?
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Speaker 2 (23:24):
It is very much to the point I was I
found myself stumbling upon a debate or not even a debate,
just a discussion between Dan Patrick and Reggie Miller, between
Shack and some of the other greatest centers of all
time in the NBA, you know, Kareem And then where
do you like throw in Nikola Jokic, Like, at what
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point do you start saying, like, Okay, he's making a
case for you know, being in there as one of
the top, you know, centers of all time. And I
think he's already made that case. But they were essentially
just saying, look, you want a couple more titles, another MVP.
It's rare there even in this era of the NBA,
only because you know, you've got to be able to
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
His problem is he looks like he's putting in little
to no effort while he does it, so people just
say whatever, you know, like last I think his stat
line last night was like thirty five and fifteen at
like nearly a triple double again, and it's just easy work.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's just it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He makes it look so easy that I think people
just sort of take it for granted when if you
ask other players, I forget who it was. Last year,
it might have been James Harden who said, look SGA
was the MVP. But everybody knows that Joker is the
best player in the league. Like everybody knows that, Like
the players know that, like everybody who watches him. We
just take it for granted almost because it's so he
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just does it so nonchalantly.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Great can I this though, does if you are a
center defensively doesn't have to kind of take part in
the resume to some degree. I mean it's part of
that conversation revolved around Shock during his time in Orlando,
who was a smaller, much more agile, and it was
kind of like this just you know, jaw dropping dunks, great,
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you know, great defense, like swapping the ball off the court.
I don't feel like that's Jokic's game. And that's where
I wonder if that's if that opinion changes because today's game, Like,
I don't know that defensive players are revered as much
as they used to be because we all we care
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about scoring and how the rules are. Well, I'm not
even sure you can play the type of defense that
most players would need to to limit or shut down
guys scoring. But I do feel like that's one of
those deals where you say, yeah, he's a great score.
Do we you know, still consider him one of the
best though, even if there's you know that that defense
is kind of lacking.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, that's the one flaw that Larry Bird had that
I mean, you know, in his health because he played
his style of play. I mean he was out of
the league I think thirty five. But Larry Bird, defensively
he was I mean minimal effort like that people talk
to just.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Scot twelve thirteen year career whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, I'm saying, look, and he's great for us. He
gave us hope, like you know, he put us on
the White guys put us off the map. Like with
that Larry Bird, I mean we we'd be non existent.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You wouldn't even picked up a basketball. No, god, no,
he said, why would I do that?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's not allowed? Yeah, now please, Yeah, we're the golf clubs.
Yeah no, it's just not you know, but defensively he
just wasn't wasn't great. But I think over time people
kind of did you know, they don't even talk about that.
It's just so I think over time, you know, they'll
they'll forgive him for whatever defensive laws he has, and
he's just going to continue to stack up numbers. He's
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I love watching him. It's like Tim Duncan, Like I
like watching Tim Duncan. But he was so nonchalant about
it that people were just kind of, yeah, this is boring,
it's whatever you want to call it. The guy dominates
and he's fantastic. What's not fantastic is what has happened
to the Dallas Maps post Luca trade, and all of
that came to an end yesterday where Nico Harrison, the
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GM of the Mavericks, was fired by the team as
general manager. Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont released a statement which
in part read quote, the decision reflects our continued commitment
to building a championship caliber organization, one that delivers for
our players, our partners, most importantly, our fans. He went
on to say, I understand the profound impact these difficult
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last several months have had. Please know that I'm fully
committed to the success of the Mavericks. Our goals to
return winning basketball to Dallas and win championships. Okay, so
then why did you trade away the guy that just
helped you get to the finals the year before?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Why'd you do that? Like?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Was he was never going to recover from that move.
He was never going to recover from that trade. And
apparently he convinced Dumont to sign off on the deal,
and that Dumont since then has had regrets about the trade,
which anybody could have told Nico, Harrison and Dumont at
the time, don't do the deal. What are you doing? Like, yeah,
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and we know it's a long term financial investment, but
he's a star. He wants to be there. He would
assigned the Supermax. Everybody knows that, and you build around him.
You don't trade away those type of players. And apparently
you know he did and a few months later he's
out the door.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. I think if you're looking at the Lakers and
they're actually building around Luca and almost kind of I
don't say moving on from Lebron, but kind of that
you look at the team now and this is where
they're headed, you get a sense for well, that was
how they viewed Luca as a guy who could replace
an all time goat, and now you've got you got nothing,
I mean, greted the conspiracy theory side of me looks
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at it and says, all right, it was this part
of the whole Cooper flag and finding a way to
making sure that he out on your roster by appeasing
you know, the NBA and the Lakers and giving them Luca,
Like does that ever factor in your head? Like maybe
he's just the fall guy for all that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I wanted to it makes the story more interesting. But
if that's the case, why did he get clipped you
know this soon afterwards?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Like just yeah, because now you know he's not you know,
he's not needed. It's not necessary, like we're gonna hold
on to him for another year and all that. Oh yeah,
he just happens to be the patsy and all this.
It's no different than obviously the whole gambling scandal. Like
heads are going to roll for the guys who are expendable.
Do you think we're really going to get every single
person within the NBA that had some piece or some
part in this whole gambling ring?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh god no, no, yeah no, you know how many
guys are out there wiping their phone and their laptops clean,
like like whoa, whoa, don't come near me. So you're
saying Nico Harrison's like Oswald, He's the Patsy into this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
He's just the essentially Yeah, I mean he's or a
fall guy and all that. Like, you know, at the
end of the day, I think when you look at
the end, the NBA is the one league that I
think you can be the most skeptical of and it'd
be one hundred percent okay, because of how the draft
lottery seems to always work out like it did last year,
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and them getting Cooper Flag like it did for the
Cleveland Cavaliers when they got Lebron and you can go
through the list of years where it seemed rather improbable,
yet they still somehow found a way to end up
with a way of like reconciling and reconciling their you know,
terrible tenure. But now the whole gambling thing, I mean,
just it feels like it's a league that is scripted
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more than any other. And it's funny because I don't
ever hear that as much for the NBA as I
do for the NFL. The NFL is the one that always, oh,
it's scripted, everything's scripted. It's like, well, I don't know,
the NBA feels like the most scripted there is, yet
we never really talk about that, or at least in
the same van as we do with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I just think people don't care as much, Like they
don't care at this point. I think people there's so
many games and just the way the product is presented
now and everything's a battle about the goat, the this
the that. I think people just look at it and go, dude,
can we just get to the postseason when some of
the stuff matters, Like, let's just we don't care about
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your NBA you know, the Cup, the in season tournament,
whatever you want to call it. We don't care about
that stuff. We want to get to the games that
matter and just watch good basketball. And there's there's good teams,
there's good players out there. Unfortunately, Dallas is just not
one of those good teams. Like they're just they're bad
and they made a regrettable decision. I also saw pictures
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of Anthony Davis with the MAVs this year. I'm assuming
it's AI. I can't imagine he's gained that much weight.
I think people are kind of manipulating some of the
pictures of Anthony Davis out there they're basically fat Shamingham
like the mas fat shamed Luca into getting into better shape.
And so now that's starting to starting to fly there
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in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So look, I mean, my good chance Anthony Davis get traded.
I mean, at this point, do you think that's where
this is going? Well, at this point, anything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean, if you're going to trade Luca, like, you know,
why would you hold on to Anthony Davis if this
is all about, you know, trying to recoup draft capital
so that you can, you know, potentially do something in
the draft or find that next great player I guess.
But to your point, with the draft lottery, there's no guarantees.
And the one guarantee you had was that Luca was
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a great player and on his way to a Hall
of Fame career, and you traded that guarantee away. That's
the part that doesn't make any sense. Also, you know
what I was thinking about when you mentioned the draft
lottery and the conspiracy theories when that whole gambling scandal
came out, the Blazers were trying to tank games intentionally
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to increase their odds because they wanted Wemby who By
the way, is on his way to be in the
best player in the league. He's unbelievable, and as it
turns out, they came up short. So not only did
they not even get Wemby while they were trying to
tank games, they now got popped for tanking games and
now look like a horse's ass in the eyes of
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the NBA and many of their fans who realize, oh,
this whole thing wasn't on the up and up to
begin with. So that's unfortunate for Portland.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But I wasn't gonna throw this out there though it is.
I know sometimes are you know, teams will try to
tank for a Wemby, for you know, maybe a Cooper
Flag maybe you know, obviously Lebron outside of that number
one overall player, maybe like outside of the top three
in the draft. How often times do you feel like,
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you know, you really can build through the draft In
the NBA, I feel like most of the time those picks
are bundled together to trade to some other organization who's
in cap hell, and so they kind of you know,
reboot or restructure their cap in exchange for a star
proven player. I feel like the NBA is one that,
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like again going back to the initial conversation. You don't
trade a superstar in Luka Doncic to then go hopefully
find another one. It's crazy, right, Like that just doesn't
make any sense. Like typically you bundle up years of
draft picks to throw it another team and then you
were taking their star player. So it's it's interesting, but
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it's it's one of the reasons why I kind of
listened to like, oh yeah, we're you know, bunding up
draft picks to build for the future. It's like, what
that that doesn't really work, Like this is the NBA.
You usually trade away those draft picks and let someone
else deal with it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It's they're a lot of scratchers, nobody, like there's no
guarantees on how these guys are going to look when
when they get to the NBA and whether or not
it's just going to be a developmental player. Like you
had somebody who who was a success who what you
were just in the finals? You were you were just
in the finals the year before. And I still think
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like that this is one of those moves to where look,
Nico Harrison might be involved in a front office somewhere,
but it's one of those moves that I don't think
he ever gets the opportunity to be a GM because
this is going to be on his resume and he's
never going to live it down ever. Like this is
the one people are going to look at. And it's
not like they haven't been good under his watch. I
mean he was the GM when they went to the finals.
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But when you trade away that guy, that's a stain
on your resume. He's never going to get out ever.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And what would be what would be the best excuse
you would use if you were Nico Harrison to get
out of that decision, Like you're you're walking into an
interview and you've got this on your resume and you're
doing everything you can to avoid having to talk about
that one decision.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh, you got to play something from the bottom of
the deck. I would go fat alcoholic, Like I would say, listen,
fat alcoholic. You saw us have to take a beer
from him. The guy had, you know, a bottle of
vodka in his locker at all times. Like I would
completely throw Luke under the bus completely, ok, gosh. And
I would say they were better silver living houses in
LA than there were in Dallas. And that's what we
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had to part with him. I was doing it for him,
not so much for the organization. I cared about the
player so much in that moment that I wanted to
get his fat drunk ass out of town and go
send him to LA to go being a sober.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Isn't that essentially what they did?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, and it didn't work. But you know, like if
you were really cranking up a notch, you could just
start name calling and go that direction. It works for me.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I feel like you just tried to play the playbook
that they tried. I did.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I just I got a little bit more vulgar with it.
So they were on the right path. They just didn't
successfully execute, you know, Yeah, they needed to.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
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head coach Aaron Gunn was asked about the injury and
he deflected the answer and said this.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I'm going to to pass on talking about the injuries
since you're rich. He's not here, has all the answers,
so you can, guys can get all the injuries from Rich.
So I go right into this, are gang, that's Rich. Well,
I'm telling you that's rich.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
He's not here.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well you better call him. No disrespect to you or rich.
But like, we want to hear it from you.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You guys have been here.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You guys have been hearing from me. But now since
we're just reporting stuff you know that I haven't said,
then maybe you should ask you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's a good way to handle it, is it?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Though?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I Mean I feel like that's like a keygy way
of I mean like, as a head coach, you've got
all the information and he's tried to use some things
to competitive advantages. He would say, I just you could
talk about it, like talk about what is going to
become out there. Anyway, the New York Jets have always
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had leaks. They've been an organization that's always had leaks
to the media, and so it's not surprising that you know,
you're hearing this stuff from other sources besides the head coach,
by the way, and it's not gonna stop with the
Aaron Glenn after one year. You know, he's got to
be there for a while. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
You brought this up yesterday and I totally forgot about it.
But the listening on the headset to Brian da Ball,
I forgot about that story when that came out that
that was like, how does that ever reach the light
of day that anybody would find out about it?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But because it's New York, say, man, well, it's it's
also because there's enough people who are in certain positions
they want to protect themselves, so they're trying to like
it could be an agent who's given that to Rich Somini.
That's the only other potential person who could get that
out there, or maybe even the player for that matter.
I don't think Gara Wilson would, but the agent might. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I just wonder how long the leashes for Aaron Glenn.
I don't think he's in trouble this year, but you know,
if next year looks similar to this, I just wonder
how much Whatdy Johnson is going to.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Put up with.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
So that's your Jets, man, that's your Jets.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's your Jets.
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Now it's just you and I today, Brady, It's just
us because well what happened LeVar. For some reason, that
man that travel back from State college just a real
pain in the ass. You know, the travel there is
a pain because you lose three hours and it takes
four days to get there without the time change the
travel back. For some reason, he always seems to hit
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a snag. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Let me sell you something. It is an advertisement to
not take that head coaching job. I'm trying to explain
to him, like you all got to do something about
the airport situation there. It literally takes away from the
entire experience and people can get upset who are Penn
State fans, But you know it. I know it. It's
hard to drive to, it's hard to fly into. There's
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not many options. You need a bigger airport. I'm sorry
you do. And so you're the biggest school, I would
say in the state. I think it's bigger in pitt
Go lobby the state, like, go, go figure out a
way of getting more funds to get a bigger airport,
to get more flights or better flights in there. It
is awful to get in and out of it. By
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the way, it's one of the only bad things about
Penn State though it's really just the airport situation. But
it does feel like every single time LeVar goes there,
he is embarking on the Oregon Trail and it just
takes some days to be able to get back.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah. So yeah, that's why he's not here. So we're
assuming he'll be back by tomorrow. We're assuming that's gonna happen,
and he will be here tomorrow. But nonetheless, there'll be
no LeVar, so no sticks here. It'll be Brady Quinn
and I had taken you all the way up during
this three hour journey. College football playoff rankings came out
Volume two Ohio State Indiana, Texas A and m Alabama, Georgia.
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Top five stays the same. What jumped out to you,
I was doing a little bit of a deep dive
trying to figure out what the.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Hell is going on To tell you what was the
deep dive. The ACC is confusing the hell out of it.
It's crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't understand, like there's I've seen like some potential
that maybe nobody gets in. I've seen like just people
are thrown out all sorts of scenarios trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's highly unlikely. And so just so people understand where
the ACC is at, there's five teams right now that
are in position to potentially play for the conference championship.
And that's significant for this reason. Duke, who sits with
four losses, only has one loss in conference play, so
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they can play spoiler. They can end up being a
team that ultimately with little help, ends up winning out
and then plays in the conference championship wins, it wins
the ACC. And the thought is that how it's stated
in the College Football Playoff is that the five highest
rank conference champions will get in, and everyone seems to
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think that or assume that it'll be the conference champions
of the Power for and then the highest rank group
of six. Although the AAC is another league that's highly competitive,
and in particular if it's Tulane, who I believe only
has one loss in conference play, If Tulane happens to
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win out and win the AAC, well, they beat Duke
head to head. So the College Football Playoff Committee, based
on their own criteria, would have to allow Tulane to
get in over Duke, given that they have a better
record and they actually beat him head to head and
they are a conference champ. And then the wild cards
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James Madison. Madison could go twelve and one, they could
win the Sun Belt, and that would be the other
team that you could potentially have higher ranked than Duke
at that point, just because Duke has four losses and
you know, again they'd be winning the ACC, but they
wouldn't have the head to head tie break over Tallane
and jam you obviously has a better record overall, So
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there's the thought that that could happen. I haven't looked
at enough of the models. I don't think it's going
to happen. I think Duke would be the fifth highest
ranked team in that regard, but we'll see. And by
the way, like Duke would have probably a couple more
quality wins in the eyes of the committee than James Madison.
But the problem is, you know, again the overall record,
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James Madison would have a twelve and one record, which'd
be pretty good. And they are a good football team,
by the way, like Indiana's essentially playing with a lot
of James Madison players that Kurt Signetty brought with him
to Indiana these past couple of years, and they're most
likely to get drafted in the NFL. So for people
who don't know about James Madison, they got a good
football team and they're probably gonna win the Sun Belt.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, it's wild man, And just to think that whatever
they roll out this week, things are gonna change next
week and we just continue on until we get the
final team.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
What was I think what's most interesting is people are
still bitching about the whole Notre Dame where they're ranked
and Miami and Miami did move up a few spots
after the win this week, but look, I get it,
like there is the element of head to head play.
Miami beat Notre Dame, and there is something to be
said for that, So I do wonder when that comes
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into play in the final rankings if Miami wins out. Now,
Miami is a team that's lost twice in conference play.
I didn't mention them as one of those teams. It's
basically like everyone else's who's in contention for the ACC
besides Miami. But again, like Miami's ranked higher than Georgia Tech,
who's got a better chance of eight and one of
playing for the ACC championship. UVa's A and two. They've
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only lost once in conference play, though they're part of
that conversation. So there's a lot of teams that are
in the as you know, Louisville, for example, is not
one of those teams, but it will probably be Jeordia
Tech and UVA. By the way, But the arguments like
this whole and I get it, but you also have
to look at what Miami has done the last three weeks.
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I mean, got to win this past week, but you know,
they lost two of the last three before that or
whatever it was. Notre Dame has won seven in a
row and they're beating the crap out of teams. You know,
they just beat at what seven to one Navy team
that was a part of that conversation. AAC. AAC has
a lot of teams playing for it, so I'm not
sure how the committee views And i'd ask you, like,
how do you view at the end of the season,
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a team that's won, let's say Notre Dame wins out
the win ten in a row. How do you view
that amongst a team that's maybe lost, you know, twice
in the past six games.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I would take the team that's going that's hot at
the current moment as opposed to the team that won
a game back in September. I mean, it's it's look
in the NFL, the Raiders beat the Patriots in Week one.
Things change and I just look at it, and I say,
for whoever's complaining, you can't just win one game early
on and think that's just going to carry the weight
of your entire season. When you've come up short in
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other spots throughout the course of the year and the
other team goes on a heater. That's the part, and
I understand why people want to hold on to that,
but it sort of falls apart when you factor in
there's been two months of football since. You can't just
bank on that one win and say, well, that should
put us ahead of them. What happened after that? What
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did you do after that? And whatever they want to
complain about the schedule and whatnot. That's the part where
that's the advantage to scheduling those games early on, because
you have time to make up for it if you
do fall apart, much like what happened with Northern Illinois.
As it turned out at the end of the year,
Miami is one of the top two teams in the
country and we look back on that Northern Illinois game
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and go, well, yeah, what happened there, or we can
look at at what happened every other week after that
up until the College Football Champion like that. That's the
part that I think people you're just holding on to
one win and not focusing on the other opportunities to
win games throughout the stretch, which you came up shorted.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's how I feel about it. I do wonder how
last year's results in the playoff played a role in that.
You know, Ohio State was a team that made it
in but made it as an at large bid and
obviously got on a run and ended up and then
by the way, that was like trusting your eyes and
trusting the eye test. Because Ohio State was such a
talented team. We knew that, but they never really played
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up to it until they got into the College Football Playoff.
You know, Notre Dame was a team who ripped off,
you know, well to ten eleven whatever it was after
the Illinois game. And you know, they were one of
those hot teams that got in similar to Ohio State
and then kind of went on the run, even though
they finished the season like that. And I wonder if
they were looking at Notre Dame in a similar fashion, saying, hey,
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same head coach, the team actually looks like it's got
a more balanced offense. Their defense has improved mightily. Maybe
that's a team that we say, all right, we're putting
them in position because they don't play a conference championship
game that if they do went out like we want
them in there. We think they're one of the top
twelve best. And that's what you've tasked the committee with doing.
For people who get upset about it's like, the reality
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is they just want to try to put the best
twelve teams in there, and going back and looking at
last year, I'm sorry, SMU, they didn't feel like that
was a really great performance. You know, they felt like
they got in based on the resume and the ACC.
But the ACC you know, maybe doesn't stack up quite
as well as some of the others. And there's some
other teams too that they're probably looking at saying, yeah,
maybe we redo this again. That's why they've redone. How
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they're doing the buys where they're just gonna say, hey,
the top four teams that we think are the best
for they're gonna get the buys this year. We're not
doing this whole like the you know, four highest rank
conference champions. The other thing I point out is, and
it's kind of interesting to me, Oregan Organ's eight and
one fotball team. They got a good, gutsy win on
the road, bad weather in Iowa City, but i was
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probably their best I shouldn't say probably Iowa is their
best win, an eighteen six win over Iowa. Outside of that,
like that Penn State win doesn't look the same. I know,
Happy Valley's tough place to play. That was before James
Frank was fired. That was, you know, you know, back
when Drew Aller was there as their quarterback. But I mean,
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I don't know, Like I'm kind of looking Oregon. I
think they look like they're one of those talented teams,
but fir as high as their ranked, I don't really
get it. I mean, the meat of their schedule kind
of comes at the end versus sc in a couple
of weeks and then Washington. But I like, I have
more of a gripe, or I would have more of
a gripe if I was a you know, college football
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fan and looking at these rankings saying, why the heck
is organ ranked so high? I mean, I realize they
have one loss, but like, who have they really beaten?
And I'm not advocating, by the way, from the name
of ranked higher or anyone else, but I'm just saying,
you look at some of these teams and you look
at like what they've done, like Utah, you know Utah.
You know again, their resume as it stacks up, doesn't
stack up quite as well, but they've got them slow
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fied at thirteen. So there's there's a number of teams
that I'm kind of looking at saying the committee wants
them around or in the vicinity, either to find a
way of getting them in if all hell breaks loose
or because they wanted to make a case for some
of these other teams if that team gets knocked off
or beat.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You know, And I wonder, and it's a hypothetical because
the game played out, but I do wonder how far
would Indiana have dropped had they lost to Penn State. Like,
I wonder how much they would have been punished for that,
because they weren't punished at all. There was no movement,
and that was a game where they didn't look good
at all. And give credit to Penn State, but it
took a really impressive drive and a toe touch in
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the back of the end zone, one of the great
catches you'll ever see for them to win and beat
Penn State in Happy Valley. With all the injuries and
the coaching change and all that. I just wonder how
much they would have been punished for something like that
had they lost that game.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I think you could have made the case that
if there was a time to move Texas A and
M ahead of Indiana, And there are a lot of
sec you know, trumpers or you know, people who believe
that they should already be ahead. The hard thing is,
you know, again, going back to Texas A, and M's schedule.
You know, they beat Notre Dame, like that's there that
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if you now granted they've they've played through the SEC,
which if you're an sc SEC you know, biased fan,
you think it's the greatest conference in the world. Missouri's
not ranked. LSU's obviously not ranked anymore, like who is
am beaten outside of Notre Dame, which by the way,
probably should have lost with a guy with a holding
call and the final play that gave you that win.
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Otherwise you lose, you know. But some people would say that,
like they feel like Texas and m should be ranked higher.
A lot of people are trying to make that argument.
But if there was ever a week to do it, yeah,
this probably would have been that week to do it,
even though it was a great, gutsy win only because
of again how close that game was versus a team
that's really struggled. But I do think the committee looks
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at Penn State. It's like they're kind of a new
team now and they're starting to like find themselves offensively.
You know, going back and watching that tape, there's something
going on on offense, because the first half the offense
looked like it looked like with James Franklin, and the
second half they started throwing the football down the field.
And I'm wondering if the internead coach Terry Smith, if
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he had just said, hey, we're gonna take some shots here,
like what do we have to lose? Because it did
that LA offense in the second half look entirely different,
and it started to open some things up and sort
of to help out Penn and State become the team
that maybe they are destined to be this year and unfortunately,
for whatever reason, you just haven't been.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So DraftKings has this option where you can go on
there and you can find to make the college football
playoff or not. Give me a long shot, and I'll
tell you what the payout would be. Somebody that you
look at and go, nobody's paying attention to this team.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
James Madison. All right, James Madison will be an interesting
one to throw in there.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Plus two fifty so one n fifty if James Madison
makes the college football playoffs.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay, let's do this again. Can you give me Duke.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Duke is plus six hundred so six to one.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, Wow, how about Tulane.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Plus six fifty?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Interesting? So there I mean and again JM. You giving
their record all that, maybe that's why some people feel
look feel confident and to the Duke point, like Duke plays.
You know, they got to play Uva, which will ultimately
decide if they beat Uva. You know, they got to
get through Virginia Tech. Excuse me, they got to get
through North Carolina Wake Forest. But if they beat Uva,
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they could be very well playing for the a SEC championship.
Now winning it's another another thing and another problem. But
that that, I mean, that scenario is out there. I
mean it's very very possible. I should put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Now, you mentioned a team yesterday. I only know this team,
I swear to God because I know their most famous
alma mater is or a famous alum is Stone Cold
Steve Austin because he played defensive end there North Texas,
North Texas. North Texas is plus two hundred. So they're sitting.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, I mean victing it in. Whoever wins the AAC,
I would assume would make it in like they. I
mean maybe not. Maybe if the AC kind of blows
up the last you know, a few weeks and you've
got you know, a three loss conference champ I don't
see that being the case, but they've got they're very
similar to the a U. The ACC is the AAC.
They both have a ton of teams in the mix,
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and these final few weeks were kind of determine it.
So they look to be the most entertaining though. I mean,
anytime you have a quarterback who has a story like
mess to Maker, who I don't think he started for
his high school team, I mean he was a converted
converted into a quarterback, and this young man's throwing for
like over six hundred yards. Their offense is a ton
of fun to watch. I mean it's as high like
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high powered, fast paced. They have balanced too with what
they can do, but they can sling it all around.
So that's and then, by the way, Messa makers an
interesting prospect for the future as far as teams will
drool over him because they feel like there's so much upside.
He's he's big, he's got the porta table size, he's
a great athlete, he can run, and he's still evolving
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as a quarterback. So it's it's kind of a it's
a great story regardless, but also like he's going to
be a great story too when it comes to the draft,
which I believe. I don't think he's draft eligible yet,
but he might be. So how does that work?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
So he doesn't play at all in high school? He's
the backup in high school and he gets an up.
Was there an injury?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I mean, Ryan Tannehill was wide receiver before he became
quarterback at Texas A and M. It's not that uncommon.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And by the way, he had had a fairly good
career in kind a great career money wise, people thought
was gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I would put him up there. I mean, there's Kirk Cousins,
all right. I mean Russell Wilson's up there too. I
think when we think about guys who are in the
Hall of Fame of Business in the NFL, you have
to throw into like at one point their career wasn't
where it like needed to but they wanted it to be.
But they're still making a ton of money. Obviously, Kirk Cousins,
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I think is the number one. He's the goat in
the Hall of Fame of Business in the NFL. You've
probably got Russell Wilson on there. You've definitely got Ryan
Tannehill on there. And there's a few other guys as well,
who are just completely I mean, Jacoby Rists getting up there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Ryan Tannehill has made one hundred and ninety five million
dollars in his career. Yeah, and that career was spent
in Florida and Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Good for you, Sid Income Sacks. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I didn't even realize that he had made that much money.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's all I'm saying. That he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
No wonder he hasn't come back yet. Remember there was
all this talk like wins Tannehal going to come back.
He's taking a year off. It's turned into two years.
Good for him, that's great. I mean, you know, Tennessee
hasn't been the same. They've been trying to figure out
quarterback ever since. Don't tell Prisco that because I know
a big Will Levis guy. But yeah, that's wow. That's impressive.
So there it is. There's your there's your volume two
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of the college football playoff Rankings. And then, uh, when
do we When do we head to Chicago to be
part of the extravagance at Wrigley Field this weekend? When's
that happening?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, it's it's a busy week I get to call
the Atlanta Falcons versus Carolina Panthers. So the Falcon's obviously
just getting back from Berlin, but I've got to go
visit the Panthers tomorrow for practice and meetings, and then
I'll eventually make my way to Chicago Friday and then
back to Atlanta Saturday. So a lot of moving parts,
a lot of moving parts going on right now.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, Well, you know, it just depends. Most people can't
handle that, but it depends on who you are. You can,
that's the best part.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
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you can. I know one person can. It's definitely LeVar.
LeVar definitely cannot handle that sort of travel. But one
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Speaker 2 (23:10):
Can we hear that again? I mean that was so
quick any here or twice?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, are you gonna give me this? I'll take it
and bury it. Come on now, I'll straight to the point.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It is very much to the point I was I
found myself stumbling upon a debate or not even a debate,
just a discussion between Dan Patrick and Reggie Miller, between
Shack and some of the other greatest centers of all
time in the NBA, you know, Kareem And then where
do you like throw in Nikola Jokic, Like, at what
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point do you start saying, like, Okay, he's making a
case for you know, being in there as one of
the top, you know, centers of all time. And I
think he's already made that case. But they were essentially
just saying, look, you want a couple more titles, another MVP.
It's rare there even in this era of the NBA,
only because you know, you've got to be able to
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be a perimeter shooter, a guy who can play from
the outside. Obviously Yogic can.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
His problem is he looks like he's putting in little
to no effort while he does it, so people just
say whatever, you know, like last I think his stat
line last night was like thirty five and fifteen at
like nearly a triple double again, and it's just easy work.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's just it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He makes it look so easy that I think people
just sort of take it for granted when if you
ask other players, I forget who it was. Last year,
it might have been James Harden who said, look SGA
was the MVP. But everybody knows that Joker is the
best player in the league. Like everybody knows that, Like
the players know that, like everybody who watches him. We
just take it for granted almost because it's so he
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just does it so nonchalantly.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Great can I this though, does if you are a
center defensively doesn't have to kind of take part in
the resume to some degree. I mean it's part of
that conversation revolved around Shock during his time in Orlando,
who was a smaller, much more agile, and it was
kind of like this just you know, jaw dropping dunks, great,
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you know, great defense, like swapping the ball off the court.
I don't feel like that's Jokic's game. And that's where
I wonder if that's if that opinion changes because today's game, Like,
I don't know that defensive players are revered as much
as they used to be because we all we care
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about scoring and how the rules are. Well, I'm not
even sure you can play the type of defense that
most players would need to to limit or shut down
guys scoring. But I do feel like that's one of
those deals where you say, yeah, he's a great score.
Do we you know, still consider him one of the
best though, even if there's you know that that defense
is kind of lacking.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, that's the one flaw that Larry Bird had that
I mean, you know, in his health because he played
his style of play. I mean he was out of
the league I think thirty five. But Larry Bird, defensively
he was I mean minimal effort like that people talk
to just.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Scot twelve thirteen year career whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
No, I'm saying, look, and he's great for us. He
gave us hope, like you know, he put us on
the White guys put us off the map. Like with
that Larry Bird, I mean we we'd be non existent.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You wouldn't even picked up a basketball. No, god, no,
he said, why would I do that?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's not allowed? Yeah, now please, Yeah, we're the golf clubs.
Yeah no, it's just not you know, but defensively he
just wasn't wasn't great. But I think over time people
kind of did you know, they don't even talk about that.
It's just so I think over time, you know, they'll
they'll forgive him for whatever defensive laws he has, and
he's just going to continue to stack up numbers. He's
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I love watching him. It's like Tim Duncan, Like I
like watching Tim Duncan. But he was so nonchalant about
it that people were just kind of, yeah, this is boring,
it's whatever you want to call it. The guy dominates
and he's fantastic. What's not fantastic is what has happened
to the Dallas Maps post Luca trade, and all of
that came to an end yesterday where Nico Harrison, the
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GM of the Mavericks, was fired by the team as
general manager. Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont released a statement which
in part read quote, the decision reflects our continued commitment
to building a championship caliber organization, one that delivers for
our players, our partners, most importantly, our fans. He went
on to say, I understand the profound impact these difficult
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last several months have had. Please know that I'm fully
committed to the success of the Mavericks. Our goals to
return winning basketball to Dallas and win championships. Okay, so
then why did you trade away the guy that just
helped you get to the finals the year before?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Why'd you do that? Like?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Was he was never going to recover from that move.
He was never going to recover from that trade. And
apparently he convinced Dumont to sign off on the deal,
and that Dumont since then has had regrets about the trade,
which anybody could have told Nico, Harrison and Dumont at
the time, don't do the deal. What are you doing? Like, yeah,
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and we know it's a long term financial investment, but
he's a star. He wants to be there. He would
assigned the Supermax. Everybody knows that, and you build around him.
You don't trade away those type of players. And apparently
you know he did and a few months later he's
out the door.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah. I think if you're looking at the Lakers and
they're actually building around Luca and almost kind of I
don't say moving on from Lebron, but kind of that
you look at the team now and this is where
they're headed, you get a sense for well, that was
how they viewed Luca as a guy who could replace
an all time goat, and now you've got you got nothing,
I mean, greted the conspiracy theory side of me looks
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at it and says, all right, it was this part
of the whole Cooper flag and finding a way to
making sure that he out on your roster by appeasing
you know, the NBA and the Lakers and giving them Luca,
Like does that ever factor in your head? Like maybe
he's just the fall guy for all that.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I wanted to it makes the story more interesting. But
if that's the case, why did he get clipped you
know this soon afterwards?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Like just yeah, because now you know he's not you know,
he's not needed. It's not necessary, like we're gonna hold
on to him for another year and all that. Oh yeah,
he just happens to be the patsy and all this.
It's no different than obviously the whole gambling scandal. Like
heads are going to roll for the guys who are expendable.
Do you think we're really going to get every single
person within the NBA that had some piece or some
part in this whole gambling ring?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Oh god no, no, yeah no, you know how many
guys are out there wiping their phone and their laptops clean,
like like whoa, whoa, don't come near me. So you're
saying Nico Harrison's like Oswald, He's the Patsy into this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
He's just the essentially Yeah, I mean he's or a
fall guy and all that. Like, you know, at the
end of the day, I think when you look at
the end, the NBA is the one league that I
think you can be the most skeptical of and it'd
be one hundred percent okay, because of how the draft
lottery seems to always work out like it did last year,
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and them getting Cooper Flag like it did for the
Cleveland Cavaliers when they got Lebron and you can go
through the list of years where it seemed rather improbable,
yet they still somehow found a way to end up
with a way of like reconciling and reconciling their you know,
terrible tenure. But now the whole gambling thing, I mean,
just it feels like it's a league that is scripted
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more than any other. And it's funny because I don't
ever hear that as much for the NBA as I
do for the NFL. The NFL is the one that always, oh,
it's scripted, everything's scripted. It's like, well, I don't know,
the NBA feels like the most scripted there is, yet
we never really talk about that, or at least in
the same van as we do with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I just think people don't care as much, Like they
don't care at this point. I think people there's so
many games and just the way the product is presented
now and everything's a battle about the goat, the this
the that. I think people just look at it and go, dude,
can we just get to the postseason when some of
the stuff matters, Like, let's just we don't care about
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your NBA you know, the Cup, the in season tournament,
whatever you want to call it. We don't care about
that stuff. We want to get to the games that
matter and just watch good basketball. And there's there's good teams,
there's good players out there. Unfortunately, Dallas is just not
one of those good teams. Like they're just they're bad
and they made a regrettable decision. I also saw pictures
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of Anthony Davis with the MAVs this year. I'm assuming
it's AI. I can't imagine he's gained that much weight.
I think people are kind of manipulating some of the
pictures of Anthony Davis out there they're basically fat Shamingham
like the mas fat shamed Luca into getting into better shape.
And so now that's starting to starting to fly there
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in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So look, I mean, my good chance Anthony Davis get traded.
I mean, at this point, do you think that's where
this is going? Well, at this point, anything's on the table.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I mean, if you're going to trade Luca, like, you know,
why would you hold on to Anthony Davis if this
is all about, you know, trying to recoup draft capital
so that you can, you know, potentially do something in
the draft or find that next great player I guess.
But to your point, with the draft lottery, there's no guarantees.
And the one guarantee you had was that Luca was
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a great player and on his way to a Hall
of Fame career, and you traded that guarantee away. That's
the part that doesn't make any sense. Also, you know
what I was thinking about when you mentioned the draft
lottery and the conspiracy theories when that whole gambling scandal
came out, the Blazers were trying to tank games intentionally
(32:53):
to increase their odds because they wanted Wemby who By
the way, is on his way to be in the
best player in the league. He's unbelievable, and as it
turns out, they came up short. So not only did
they not even get Wemby while they were trying to
tank games, they now got popped for tanking games and
now look like a horse's ass in the eyes of
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the NBA and many of their fans who realize, oh,
this whole thing wasn't on the up and up to
begin with. So that's unfortunate for Portland.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
But I wasn't gonna throw this out there though it is.
I know sometimes are you know, teams will try to
tank for a Wemby, for you know, maybe a Cooper
Flag maybe you know, obviously Lebron outside of that number
one overall player, maybe like outside of the top three
in the draft. How often times do you feel like,
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you know, you really can build through the draft In
the NBA, I feel like most of the time those picks
are bundled together to trade to some other organization who's
in cap hell, and so they kind of you know,
reboot or restructure their cap in exchange for a star
proven player. I feel like the NBA is one that,
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like again going back to the initial conversation. You don't
trade a superstar in Luka Doncic to then go hopefully
find another one. It's crazy, right, Like that just doesn't
make any sense. Like typically you bundle up years of
draft picks to throw it another team and then you
were taking their star player. So it's it's interesting, but
(34:22):
it's it's one of the reasons why I kind of
listened to like, oh yeah, we're you know, bunding up
draft picks to build for the future. It's like, what
that that doesn't really work, Like this is the NBA.
You usually trade away those draft picks and let someone
else deal with it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It's they're a lot of scratchers, nobody, like there's no
guarantees on how these guys are going to look when
when they get to the NBA and whether or not
it's just going to be a developmental player. Like you
had somebody who who was a success who what you
were just in the finals? You were you were just
in the finals the year before. And I still think
(34:56):
like that this is one of those moves to where look,
Nico Harrison might be involved in a front office somewhere,
but it's one of those moves that I don't think
he ever gets the opportunity to be a GM because
this is going to be on his resume and he's
never going to live it down ever. Like this is
the one people are going to look at. And it's
not like they haven't been good under his watch. I
mean he was the GM when they went to the finals.
(35:18):
But when you trade away that guy, that's a stain
on your resume. He's never going to get out ever.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
And what would be what would be the best excuse
you would use if you were Nico Harrison to get
out of that decision, Like you're you're walking into an
interview and you've got this on your resume and you're
doing everything you can to avoid having to talk about
that one decision.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh, you got to play something from the bottom of
the deck. I would go fat alcoholic, Like I would say, listen,
fat alcoholic. You saw us have to take a beer
from him. The guy had, you know, a bottle of
vodka in his locker at all times. Like I would
completely throw Luke under the bus completely, ok, gosh. And
I would say they were better silver living houses in
LA than there were in Dallas. And that's what we
(36:00):
had to part with him. I was doing it for him,
not so much for the organization. I cared about the
player so much in that moment that I wanted to
get his fat drunk ass out of town and go
send him to LA to go being a sober.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Isn't that essentially what they did?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, and it didn't work. But you know, like if
you were really cranking up a notch, you could just
start name calling and go that direction. It works for me.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I feel like you just tried to play the playbook
that they tried. I did.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I just I got a little bit more vulgar with it.
So they were on the right path. They just didn't
successfully execute, you know, Yeah, they needed to.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
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Speaker 4 (38:03):
So on Monday, it was reported by ESPN's Rich Samini
that Garrett Wilson was expected to miss at least like
three or four weeks with a sprain knee. So yesterday
head coach Aaron Gunn was asked about the injury and
he deflected the answer and said this.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I'm going to to pass on talking about the injuries
since you're rich. He's not here, has all the answers,
so you can, guys can get all the injuries from Rich.
So I go right into this, are gang, that's Rich. Well,
I'm telling you that's rich.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
He's not here.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well you better call him. No disrespect to you or rich.
But like, we want to hear it from you.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You guys have been here.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
You guys have been hearing from me. But now since
we're just reporting stuff you know that I haven't said,
then maybe you should ask you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's a good way to handle it, is it?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Though?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I Mean I feel like that's like a keygy way
of I mean like, as a head coach, you've got
all the information and he's tried to use some things
to competitive advantages. He would say, I just you could
talk about it, like talk about what is going to
become out there. Anyway, the New York Jets have always
(39:09):
had leaks. They've been an organization that's always had leaks
to the media, and so it's not surprising that you know,
you're hearing this stuff from other sources besides the head coach,
by the way, and it's not gonna stop with the
Aaron Glenn after one year. You know, he's got to
be there for a while. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
You brought this up yesterday and I totally forgot about it.
But the listening on the headset to Brian da Ball,
I forgot about that story when that came out that
that was like, how does that ever reach the light
of day that anybody would find out about it?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But because it's New York, say, man, well, it's it's
also because there's enough people who are in certain positions
they want to protect themselves, so they're trying to like
it could be an agent who's given that to Rich Somini.
That's the only other potential person who could get that
out there, or maybe even the player for that matter.
I don't think Gara Wilson would, but the agent might. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
I just wonder how long the leashes for Aaron Glenn.
I don't think he's in trouble this year, but you know,
if next year looks similar to this, I just wonder
how much Whatdy Johnson is going to.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Put up with.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
So that's your Jets, man, that's your Jets.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
That's your Jets.
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