November 20, 2025 • 43 mins
The guys are joined by Albert Breer as they talk about the Falcons for their rest of the season outlook and other various NFL insights. Plus the guys preview the Thursday Night Football game, The Leftovers, and more!
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Speaker 6 (01:29):
Good Thursday morning to you, sir.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Good morning guys. How we're doing.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Good morning, We're good.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Another day of you sitting the top the top the throne.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Huh does it get at this point?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I mean, you know it's you just don't want to
You don't want to lie yourself to become too comfortable
because it is comfortable up here. You know, I'm not
gonna lie, so you know, you just want to kind
of make sure you don't get too comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Now, now, speaking of comfortable, you would think that Jalen
Hurts would be comfortable in Philadelphia based on the fact
that he just won a Super Bowl, was a Super
Bowl MVP. He went to another Super Bowl Like, He's
done some pretty impressive things in his career. Yet there's
these reports that come out first from Diana Rassini, there
was another one that came out sort of corroborating that
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that players are not happy with sort of how he
performs within the offense there and they've grown frustrated with him.
And how much of this is just schematics and just
performance on the field, and how much of it is
just a personality thing and maybe they just don't like
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It's a little bit of both, and it has been
for a while. Like I think that you know, there
is the fact that you built an offense for for
Jalen Hurts that runs a certain way, that's set up
a certain way that maybe isn't conducive to everyone producing
at the highest level statistically, you know, and that could
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be fus straight for guys, because look, all these guys
are competitive about their individual performance the same way they
are from a team perspective, you know, So there's that
there's also kind of like this stoic way about him.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
That isn't for everybody, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
And I think the one thing that like, you know,
the Eagles have learned and having jail and Hurts for
six years is there's just a way that he is,
and you've got to manage it. You've got to deal
with it, you know. And like he's not going to
be everyone's best friend.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You know, he has a you know, kind of a very.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Like down the line way about him. And you know,
like to some people that can come off as being
a jerk. To other people, that comes off as being
still a caliber you want to slice it.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
That's just part of the package, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And so that's been what it's been, and I you know,
it's it's it's actually interesting because you know two years
ago you heard some of the same stuff.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
You didn't hear it in twenty two or twenty four
when they.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Were going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
So I think a lot of it's relative to the
team's success.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
How much of the change in offensive coordinator when you
talk about the offense that they've set up, has played
a roller factor.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean, in my mind looking at it, it's tough.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
You've got Kellam Moore's head coach and Steigan's head coach
was a Josh Johnson. I forget the name of the
coach that they they let go of after a year,
but he's had a lot of different guys. Brian Johns
play Brian Johnson say, excuse me, I think the quarterback.
But you know, you go through the list of other
guys who have been there and called plays. He's been
starting for what five years, It's been a lot of
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different guys in that episode.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, well, I mean you go through it, right, like
so like that first year, Shane Steigen was actually became
the play caller. I think, I want to say, like
it was like midway through that year, but Sirianni had
been the play caller, and then Sigan was the play
caller their Super Bowl year twenty Then it was Johnson
twenty three, then it was more in twenty four, and
now is Kevin Petulo in twenty five. So then then
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if you want to go back to when he was
a rookie, obviously that was you know, there was no
Stichen or or or Petullo or or or Sirianni or
any of them.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
It was Doug Peterson. So he's been through a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Of change, of course, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
And then there's part of that.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And and look, the standards.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Really high there.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And you know, one thing that I think shouldn't be
lost here is this part of the price of doing
business when you put a team together. The way they
put their team together, which you know, like is you know,
they having having you know, like a star stud a
roster like that where you've got a lot of guys
who are on big contracts, creates like a lot of
mouths to feed sort of situation, and that's and that
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can be challenging for for for any coach, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
And I think that's like honestly, like bradyes to this,
you guys said a few times.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think over the course of the last couple of months,
like you know, Aj Brown, like one of the nick
Sirianni's being able to manage.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
A guy like that, because I don't think any everybody can.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
You know, And there's a reason why they're able to
roll the dice on a guy like Jalen Carter, who
a lot of teams had off their draft board.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
It's it's it's just sort of the way that they've
set their roster up, and you know, and a big
part of why Siriani is valuable to them and has
brought so much value to them is because there's ability
to manage all that. So we'll see what it looks
like in the end, but you know, these sort of bumps,
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you know, with that group of players. This isn't the
first time, you know, so, and we'll see where it
goes from here.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is there the chance that Mike Daniel survives after this season,
survives Black what is Black Monday? Is like, he's still
back in Miami next season?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Yeah? I think yes. The answer is yes.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
And I I I don't want to say definitively is
he is going to But if you look at their
you look at their schedule.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
I believe the next two weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I'm going to look it up for you guys here
because I know how good how that's good radio when
somebody's googling something. Uh, But they're really at their schedule
the next two weeks with the Saints and the Jets,
and so they win those two games. Now all of
a sudden, you're six and seven going into Pittsburgh on
a Monday night in mid December, you know, And so
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like the opportunities there for Mike McDaniel. The owner likes him,
and I think that that's you know, obviously going to
be a big factor any in any one of these
And one of the things that I know that.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
The owner has heard for people is.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Is well, you know, this guy is going to be
great and his second chance as a head coach, which.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
You know, I think we get any owner thinking well.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
What about you know, the first chance that I'm giving him,
Why can't he be that now?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
So I think that that's I think it's gonna be
interesting to see where this goes. And and really, the
barometer here, because this is the biggest question, and this
goes back to September and October. The barometer here is
going to be his ability to hold onto that locker
room and and and and to get the best performance
possible out of all those players, because you know, if
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you go back to September and October, things were kind
of a mess and there have been a star driven
culture there before, and I think it was really petering on.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You know, does Mike still have have this Mike still
have these guys, you know?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Or is this thing about to implode? And now it
looks like they've gotten it back on the tracks. And so,
you know, can Mike continue to you know, can I
continue to compel.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
That that group of players?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
And you know, you again, you look at the schedule
going forward, with the six games they've got left It's
just it looks to me at least like this is
a team that could, you know, find itself right there
in the precipice of five hundred, you know, going into
going into Pittsburgh on that Monday night in mid December,
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and it'll be really interesting to see how they come
out of the buy because they do have some momentum now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Albert Berr joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Michael Pennix
junior out for the year. The Electa Falcons I think
have been a disappointment for a lot of people's expectations
going into the season. And now I just wonder what
is the feeling there about Raheem Morris because they kind of,
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I don't want to say they clowned Bill Belichick, but
they kind of made a spectacle of it. It went
the other direction, and yet here we are and they've
been really underwhelming under Raheem Morris.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Not only that, like Mike Frabel was kind of an
afterthought and approaching search they brought.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Him in, and like.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It was I mean, I think to some people it
almost felt like they were checking a box, you know,
so they passed on Mike Frabel, who I think they
very much could have had.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know, in twenty four.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
If if they choose to go down that route. So,
you know, I think you look at the opportunities they
passed on.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I think what's going to.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Be interesting here to me is how they assigned blame
for what happened what's happened at quarterback, right like, because
I think you you look at the investment and this
is real money, you know, like that the owner that
the owner's investing in, the real draft capital that the
owner's investing, and you just think about the impact of
what they've what they did in quarter a quarterback in
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twenty twenty four to make up for not having had
one a couple of years before that. Right, So, they
spend forty five million dollars per year on kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
If they cut them after the year.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
They'll have sung almost one hundred million dollars into them.
It's going to be like the number is going to
be a little bit pungible based on like on on offsets,
but around one hundred million dollars on kirk Cousins for
two years to be in and out of the lineup,
then they'll then they'll have they'll have spent the eighth
overall pick on Michael Pennix, who probably won't be ready
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for the start of the twenty sixth season.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Okay, so now you're saying, like, we.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Overinvest in twenty four to try to get this right.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Probably neither of those guys are.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Going to be in uniform for us at the beginning
of twenty twenty six. And then you look at like
the cost of doing what they did there and spending
that high draft pick. After spending that money, well, they
spent that high draft pick, they didn't get a pass rusher,
and then they had to trade their twenty six first
round pick to go back into the twenty five first
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round to fix the defense. So now they don't have
a first round pick in twenty six either.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
As a result of all of this.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
It's a ten car pile up, you know what I mean. Like,
so I think a lot of this for Raheem, for
Terry font No, the general manager is going to come
down to assessing the damage on what they did at
quarterback in the spring of twenty twenty four, And that's
oversimplifying it a little bit. Look, you still have some
games left to try and dig yourself out of this
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hole if you're Aheem. But it's not a great situation
the amount of capital that the owner invested in trying
to get that position right.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
And I can see that we talked about this a
little bit earlier. I think one of the things that
I thought was interesting is it was a risky move
back when they did it, only because of the investment
that they made. But you do have to give him
credit for trying, right, Like, that's the position you got
to figure out. Well, granted you can say, like, hey,
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do you want to invest that much money and Kirk
Cousins off in Achilles and then invest money into a
top ten pick for a guy who's got this sort
of injury history, Like there was definitely some injury concerns
there that obviously you know, again I don't know how
much Raheem and Terry Fond who played a role in that,
But is there any like grace for Hey, we went
after it hard, we tried, this is our plan. It
just it's just kind of blown up. Like Cousins obviously
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never has been able to get back to what he
was And then you know, for Penix, it's kind of
been up and down, but obviously the injury now really
eliminates any potential of seeing what the rest of the
season could be.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Like, I mean part of the risks of Brady right Like,
it's like what I remember, what I what I would tell.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
People after they did that, right was, look, if they
get it right, if one of these guys is the answer,
if they're in the play if they're in the second
round of the playoffs, er in a conference championship game
with one of these guys' quarterback, it's.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Not going to matter what they spent.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The position is that important, right like, so so like
whatever you.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Saw, but they were a game away last year, So
where do you factor that at?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
And that's the thing no one remembers. No one remembers
what the Chiefs gave up to get.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Patrick Mahomes, right, Like, no one.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Remembered it because because it's irrelevant, Like they have Patrick Mahomes,
you know, same with Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
The Bills you know, had to do all kinds.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Of things to move up in the draft order to
get Josh Allen. It was like a two year process
of getting.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
A position to take them.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
No one cares because they have Josh Allen. Now this
is the flip side of it, right, Like it's like if.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
You're going to do that, you better not strike out,
and you.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Know, like and I think that that's sort of the
cost of doing business at this level. And now again
I would say if you talk to people who are
there before twenty four, you know, Arthur Smith's plan going
into twenty three was like, all right, like, we don't
believe in the twenty three draft class and what was
available to us, which it would have been Anthony Richards
and so they were actually right, you know, in twenty three,
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like we don't believe like that there's an answer that's
available to us in this year's draft.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
So we're going to kick the can.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Down the road. The owner was on board with it,
and then the whole thing blows up because they don't
have a quarterback in twenty three, and then the reactionary
thing is to go all the way in the other
direction over invest in the position in twenty four.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
So there's actually like kind of like a trail of.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Things here, you know, like where you look at it
and it's like.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Does this go all the.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Way back to like hanging on to Matt Ryan he
or too long, you know what I mean, Like, it's
just it's a complicated thing, and I think, you know,
there are a lot of people who I would say
had like the proverbial blood on their hands, right, But
like at the end, like do your.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Question is do they have quarterback?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Or are we looking at a franchise that it's going
to be going back into the draft in twenty twenty
seven to get one And it looks like they could
be that team, which isn't a great place for the
decision to makers to be right, But.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Before we get two years ahead of ourselves, I guess
the question is there were a game away from being
a playoff team last year. Do they look at this
year and just say they've had a bunch of injuries.
I mean, now Pennix is on our you know, you
look at how decimated they've been. They've been tight, you
know in games. Arthur Blanks seems to be the type
of phoneo that's been patient, Like does that play out
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or just because that moves?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
And I think he should be with Raheem Like I
just I think too highly over him as a football coach.
And I know too many people that know way more
about football than I do. Or ever will that think
so highly of him, you know. I mean, I'll give
you too, Kyle san An Sean McVay, like you know,
like like I know too many people that just think
so highly over him as a football coach that I
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would be very careful about, you know, making any sort
of rash decision. And I'm with you on that, like
I think, like look like you know, like is this
and is this a screwed up situation now?
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Quarterback? Absolutely, and you know it's.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Not a great spot to be in. And I don't
know if Michael Pennix is going to be their quarterback
two years from now. We just don't have enough information.
Can you separate that from making a decision on the
head coach and what you think of the head coach
and what the head coach can be.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
For you for the next ten years?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like that's the real trick, right, Like.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
So can the owners do that?
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think Arthur Blank is shown in the past like
that he's got patients to make these sorts of decisions
in aterrational, interrational way. You know, we'll see because the
other thing.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Is, like you know, it's now been a while.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Since the Falcons were have been in the playoffs. I
think we're talking about what six or seven years now
since they were in the playoffs and the last team
that made the playoffs probably the year after they went
to the super Bowl in the seventeen season.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Seven years?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, So like it's been a long time. So now
does the owner have and I think this exists in
every market, right, does the owner have the sort of
armadillo skin to withstand the criticism which now is going
to be pointed at him, you know what I mean,
which is now going to be like the owner doesn't
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know what he's doing, you know, and a lot of
owners don't have don't have the don't have.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The wherewithal to do it.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I would say, like you give Arthur Blank the benefit
of the doubt because he generally has been pretty patient
as an owner.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
But sometimes it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
For those guys to take the sort of criticism that
comes their way when there's been you know, that long
period of failure, that's that that that that's.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Gone on under multiple coaches, which.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Again is how an organization winds up becoming destabilized.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Aby Man, last question for you is about the Commanders
one game away from the Super Bowl, a year ago
and this year he wins. I know, I know largely
in part due to just kind of how how Jaydeon
Daniel's health has played out. But it just kind of
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has this airly simular type of smell to it, like
RG three and some in some regards how should we
be you know, how should people be viewing the commanders
right now?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, I would say there's one big difference at the
very top of the organization and that I think it
would be tough to hang the failures of Daniel Snyder
around the neck of Josh Harris. We don't know how
Josh Harris is going to react to this.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
We do know how Daniel Snyder.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Did, and you know, like he was such a massive
part of the problem there, and that he empowered RG
three to carry himself a.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Certain way, and he empowered.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Him to I would say, do some things that undermine
what Mike Shanahan was trying to build there, which created
larger problems which ended up like resulting in that whole
thing blowing up.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I you know, I like.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Until further notice, LeVar, I think we can take this
as just a crappy year and some bad injury luck
and the Commanders had incredible injury luck last year, and
you know, like that swung back around and it got them,
you know, And.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
So I don't want to again. I don't want to
hang the.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Failures of Daniel Snyder around the neck of Josh Harris.
I don't want to hang the failures of Robert Griffin
the third around the neck of Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I don't think that's fair. You know.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I do think that there are real concerns, like and
I think one of them is they've gotten old very
very fast. You know, Adam Peterson and and and and
dan Quinn did an excellent job of finding veteran players
to patch holes, and the a lot of holes in
that roster when they got there. But a lot of
those guys were older, a lot of those guys were
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on one or two year deals, and there was a
lot longer rebuild required. And so you know, whether or not.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Like the Commanders come out of this, I think.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
It's going to depend on now their success with some
of the younger players that they drafted, Guys like Josh Connolly,
like Krossky Merritt, you know, like some of the guys
that that that have come into that building.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Over the course of the last couple.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Of years, Trey Amos, Mikey Sainer. Still, you know, can
those guys become frontline.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Players for them?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And then what do they do this year in the
draft with you know, a lot of their capitol drained
because they made trades for veteran players. It's those are
the real problems for the for the commanders to me,
like right that those are the things that they're going
to have to answer for. I think I think Jayden
Daniel is gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Be just fine.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I think Dan Quinn is going to be just fine.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And we have no reason to believe that Josh Harris
is suddenly going to morph into Dan Snyder.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Maybe, uh, one quick one before we get to your
uh the pick on the big game in college football
this weekend? What the hell is going on with Kean Coleman, Like,
what's happening? Is he just not shown up to meetings
or what?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
What?
Speaker 7 (21:11):
What's Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean, like there's there's a there's a ton of
stuff that they've had to deal with.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
I think the kid has to grow up. What they're
trying to do is they're trying to put them in
a position.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Where they're trying to they're they're they're they're trying to say, Okay,
like if you want to be part of this, like
you need to carry yourself differently. There's a level of
responsibility that we demand from all of your players that you're.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Not exempt from.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
And so, you know, I think this is sort of
their attempt to sound the alarm to the kid and
and and and get him on a path where he
can be you know, a real factor for them in
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
They need him, you know, like I.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
The receiver spot there between Shavers and Shakir and you
know what they've got right now is is just okay.
And you know, getting more out of a high second
round pick, you know, by the end of December and
then into January, it would be absolutely huge for them.
So to me, this is a swing and trying to
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weigh keon Coleman up a little bit and we'll see
if it works, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I never fel.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
We didn't have I don't well, I mean, what's sort
of ask he's gonna be start?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just figured it a top there.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, he's getting first team reps. Guys like I that it's.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Unbelievable how this is like blown into like a cultural war.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's it's it's weird, man, I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
It has like it's like people get all fired up
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's like, I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
This is no different than any other backup than now
is threat or string position.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean I was a backup. I was a starter.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
If I'm starting, I'm not giving away reps where you
don't get enough during the week to prepare as it is.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I'm sorry, I just I mean, you know what, Brady
I was thinking about this like that that The funny
thing about this is like you don't It doesn't even
need to be like we don't. You don't even need
to explain it to you from an NFL context, right,
Like to think about like a team you.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Were on in high school, Like how often was.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Your coach randomly throwing backups into the into the line.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm never getting ready for a game.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Never.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
It's like it should be relatable to anyone who has
a brain, has ever played football or been around football,
but somehow she won't to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
On the note of.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Coleman, it's just great injustice that it just doesn't make
any sense at all.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
But anyway, No, on.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The note of Coleman, though, wouldn't it be better to
keep this stuff in house?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Like you you You.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Let this stuff get out and we don't know how
it's gonna work. Maybe he understands what they're trying to
do and he grows up. Maybe he doesn't, but like
once it becomes public, it kind of hurts you the
trade value. You know, at some point, can't you just
kind of keep this stuff in house, not broadcast, address them,
just not play him and let him know what and
he understands what's happening.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I mean, I would say when you've already tried a
bunch of stuff, like you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean, what is the acting like a pennstated edge rusher?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 8 (24:17):
No, I'm just saying between Micah Parson's Abdual Carter, we
can have a lot of questions of LeVar.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
That was that was That was unbelievably wow.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I'm trying to wake up LeVar over there. I'm trying
to get him up off that hospital. Betty looks like
Hugh Freeze up in the press box calling the game
cold blooded?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Is this a heroic effort by LeVar today to make.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
It I'm just trying to get LeVar going.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Man, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going
to respond to to these people attempts to draw a
reaction out of me. I'm just I'm not going to
do it. And both of them happen to wear Levin too.
They they belonged to Stick City. You know, it is
what it is. You know, people should have the opportunity
to mature and grow up and make mistakes and you know,
(25:07):
make decisions. This is all all good.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Taking nap in a meeting, Alberta.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
People have fallen asleep in meetings. You know what I mean.
I mean, it's happened before you know, stand.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Up, I fall asleep. I fall asleep a lot of
weird random places.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So Alberta, stand up. Cool to sleep coming? You got
to stand up.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Quickly before we before we let you go. Uh Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Will they be better than Rutgers this weekend by more
than thirty one and a half points?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, I almost took them not to cover it myself
out of it last week, right, Like, so I'm not
going to talk myself out of this Swiss week?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Well, Well we will, we will be.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We will be.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Rolling into uh into an Arbor there.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
There you go, I'd be worried about Michigan, Brady, I
don't think so, right.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I mean, you guys were the biggest favorite in the
history of the series, right, and you guys lost the
home last year.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I think it's play concern.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
By the way, because because here's the thing is, like,
I know you probably feel really confident about this year.
That's kind of how I felt about that matchup last year.
I mean, Michigan threw for what sixty yards in that game?
They still won, right, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Like that was like a that was I mean, that
was totally like it was in our heads and it's
like that got the best of us.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I just don't think that's going to happen again, you know,
But I.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Guess I don't. I don't either, Bud. If I was
a betting man, I don't think it's going to happen.
I think the line's way too low. I would lay
the points easily with Ohio State there. But again, like
last year scarred me for life. We're I'll never be
able to look at this robbery again and say, yeah,
I don't care what the.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Point spread says. It's just usually going to be a
tighter game.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, but how do.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You feel about like a freshman quarterback against Matt Patricia.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, dude, trust me. Last week they had five turms
last week quarterback.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Yeah yeah, but so none of that matters, and Bowie Bowie.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I would expect him to run a lot more.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I would expect them to unleash that element because this
game is a college football playoff game for them. If
they don't win, well, obviously they've got to you know,
win this week, but if they don't win next week,
they don't get in. So I would expect them to
utilize his legs like Biff Pogi did earlier.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
But yeah, yeah, Ab, we always appreciate it. Get him
on ex at Albert Greer, Senior NFI reporter, lead content
strategist at the m MPB, and we'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
He happy Thanksgiving too.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
If we don't talk about there.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
He is, Yeah, there, he is a great autome by
the way, you know, Ab sounds like he was well rested.
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
I can't hear you? Are you is a volume? I
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Sounds like you're it sounds like you really have a
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(33:27):
don't know. I fell left out. I mean, I know
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Speaker 3 (33:32):
Then who doesn't feel left out?
Speaker 8 (33:34):
James Franklin because he's got a job now, at Virginia, Tay.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's not a Hall of Famer, though I'm a Hall
of famer.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Well, you know, he's one of only I think two
head coaches to ever coach in the Big ten SEC
and what is now the ACC. Can you name the
other coach who's coached in three different conferences?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Big ten?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Three different conferences.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Three different conferences, doesn't have to be the exact same
as James Franklin, but Urban Meyer, I'm gonna say Lane
Kiffen not well, urban coach in the Mountain West. We're
kind of taking like the big boys like power.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh okay, so now it's specilations on because.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Brian Kelly would have fallen into that too.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
And okay, all right, okay, big boys, let's see big
Boy four power for would it be Lane Kiffin?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It is not Lane Kiffin. M I mean that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He was close, though, wasn't he He's up to isn't
he two?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well then twice in the SEC? Yeah, maybe three times.
It was the Florida Times. I'll just give it to
you because we're kind running up against it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Lou Holtz, Oh coach coached everywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I mean he did, and that's why he falls in.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That literally coached everywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, so Minnesota good at it too.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
South Carolina the SEC he coached, Uh where did you coach?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
He coach the ACC before that.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
There's one of the school that's escaped me at the moment,
obviously Notre Dame, even though it's not a kind of conference.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
I always wanted to play for Lou holtz Man. Lou Holtz,
Bobby Bowden, and Joe Paterno, those were the three guys
I wanted to play play for and coach Robinson. Obviously
my mom went to an HBCU, so I always thought,
I'm like that.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Was the other school at state yea, the Minnesota, South Carolina,
actually Arkansas before that, although I think Arkansas at that
time was probably in the Big Eight.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm I'm a I'm a big fan of Lou Holtz Man,
I really am. I'm I really enjoyed watching Notre Dame
football when he was the coach of of of the team.
Like that was my era of time growing up and
super influential. You know, It's a lot of great players
that played for him. Yeah, man, that was that's he's
(36:06):
a dope coach.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
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Speaker 2 (36:07):
He is he in the Hall of Fame yet, I'm
sure he's in now. So yeah, I'm sure he's under
that now. In fact, maybe I've seen him at the event.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Maybe, How'm not Hall of Fame for low Olds was
in the College Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, blame Sports Reference.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
That's on them.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, I'm blaming you, Jonas. But anyway, I felt left out,
do we?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
At least James Franklin and his introduction.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
I want to thank Penn State. I had twelve years there.
It's very unusual in college football to get twelve years
at a place. Most importantly, the relationships the staff, the players.
The players here in Virginia Tech are going to find out.
I'm a player's coach. That's what it's all about for me.
(36:56):
That's what it always will be.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Am.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I play for him, dude.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
He is an awesome dude. He's a good coach too.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
And I know it didn't work out of Penn State,
but you know, I think the next head coach is
going to have the same issues.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You know, fix that damn airport, all right, Happy Valley.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
He talks about that too. You know, he touched on
that referenced.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
I'm telling you like I'm unbiased, I'm objective.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm telling you right now. It is one of the
things that you.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Hear from recruits, that you hear from players, that they'll
talk about how difficult it is to get there, like
I don't want to have my family, can't go there,
I can't, you know, It's just it's a whole thing,
and no one at Penn State seems to understand their
next head coach and the airport are intertwined together, like
figure it out. It's a legit problem for all parties involved.
But by the way he came out to enter Sandman,
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Speaker 13 (41:18):
Okay, I found this super fun story yesterday. You know
the pop tart bull from last year while it's coming
back to Torts Burbie. We all love a pop tart.
My favorite's probably the wild berry flavor. Yeah, with the
purple frosted sugar.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Cinnamon, cherry, sugar, strawberry, strawberries like strawberry.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
That's the classes.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Cherry's good too.
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Oh yeah, cherry, that's my stuff.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Oh well, you do.
Speaker 13 (41:43):
Get to pick which pop tart the team is going
to be able to devour. Yes, fans will decide which
edible mascot the team gets sacrificed.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (41:52):
The way they put that, Uh, they each with three
mascots face off in a flavor fueled showdown.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
As for word to vote, I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
But are they?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, the whole thing toaster, it's absurd, the whole thing
so cool, it's amazing.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
It's what makes college football great. Shonas spit on pop
Tart's like it's scout on, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It's not a bastard.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
It's not a real pop tart though. What comes out
is more like a cake.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's a gigantic pop tart. What do you think a
pop tart is essentially a.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Little toasted little more like a cake.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, well you're a cake eater, so no, what's you damn?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh goodness, put his face all up in.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Here, all up in it.
Speaker 13 (42:34):
Anyways, I guess we should move on.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Okay, I'm going to give you guys options. Do you
want to talk about a dog or cheerleaders?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I mean, choose between two?
Speaker 13 (42:45):
All right, obviously you want to go with cheerleaders.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
You did?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
You? Did?
Speaker 12 (42:49):
You?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Guys?
Speaker 13 (42:50):
See that Bill Belichick went to Jordan Hudson's cheerleading competition
a good boyfriend. Oh my gosh, it looks like toddlers
and tiaras.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
Say there was another guy, guy, you're missing the lead.
She's in an adult cheerleading competition. Like this is a thing.
Adults have cheerleading teams.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
It's the It's the loser version of Beer League softball.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Yeah, are we being I didn't know this existed.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Is this like a whole different world I've never heard of.
Speaker 13 (43:20):
It's terrifying.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
I don't want to be in it.
Speaker 13 (43:22):
If it does exist.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I've never heard of it, but I do have a
cheerleader daughter, so y'all try it lightly on this dime.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
I get that, but I'm saying I didn't realize there
was life after college for cheerleading the NFL.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
There's dancing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I will strike back if they want to. If they
want to chair as adults, let them cheer as adults.
Good for you, Bill, Say that means she's using the
muscles keeping that body tight. Enjoy
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Another day of you sitting the top the top the throne.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Huh does it get at this point?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I mean, you know it's you just don't want to
You don't want to lie yourself to become too comfortable
because it is comfortable up here. You know, I'm not
gonna lie, so you know, you just want to kind
of make sure you don't get too comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Now, now, speaking of comfortable, you would think that Jalen
Hurts would be comfortable in Philadelphia based on the fact
that he just won a Super Bowl, was a Super
Bowl MVP. He went to another Super Bowl Like, He's
done some pretty impressive things in his career. Yet there's
these reports that come out first from Diana Rassini, there
was another one that came out sort of corroborating that
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that players are not happy with sort of how he
performs within the offense there and they've grown frustrated with him.
And how much of this is just schematics and just
performance on the field, and how much of it is
just a personality thing and maybe they just don't like
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It's a little bit of both, and it has been
for a while. Like I think that you know, there
is the fact that you built an offense for for
Jalen Hurts that runs a certain way, that's set up
a certain way that maybe isn't conducive to everyone producing
at the highest level statistically, you know, and that could
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be fus straight for guys, because look, all these guys
are competitive about their individual performance the same way they
are from a team perspective, you know, So there's that
there's also kind of like this stoic way about him.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
That isn't for everybody, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
And I think the one thing that like, you know,
the Eagles have learned and having jail and Hurts for
six years is there's just a way that he is,
and you've got to manage it. You've got to deal
with it, you know. And like he's not going to
be everyone's best friend.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You know, he has a you know, kind of a very.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Like down the line way about him. And you know,
like to some people that can come off as being
a jerk. To other people, that comes off as being
still a caliber you want to slice it.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
That's just part of the package, you know.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And so that's been what it's been, and I you know,
it's it's it's actually interesting because you know two years
ago you heard some of the same stuff.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
You didn't hear it in twenty two or twenty four
when they.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Were going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
So I think a lot of it's relative to the
team's success.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
How much of the change in offensive coordinator when you
talk about the offense that they've set up, has played
a roller factor.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean, in my mind looking at it, it's tough.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
You've got Kellam Moore's head coach and Steigan's head coach
was a Josh Johnson. I forget the name of the
coach that they they let go of after a year,
but he's had a lot of different guys. Brian Johns
play Brian Johnson say, excuse me, I think the quarterback.
But you know, you go through the list of other
guys who have been there and called plays. He's been
starting for what five years, It's been a lot of
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different guys in that episode.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, well, I mean you go through it, right, like
so like that first year, Shane Steigen was actually became
the play caller. I think, I want to say, like
it was like midway through that year, but Sirianni had
been the play caller, and then Sigan was the play
caller their Super Bowl year twenty Then it was Johnson
twenty three, then it was more in twenty four, and
now is Kevin Petulo in twenty five. So then then
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if you want to go back to when he was
a rookie, obviously that was you know, there was no
Stichen or or or Petullo or or or Sirianni or
any of them.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
It was Doug Peterson. So he's been through a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Of change, of course, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
And then there's part of that.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
And and look, the standards.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Really high there.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And you know, one thing that I think shouldn't be
lost here is this part of the price of doing
business when you put a team together. The way they
put their team together, which you know, like is you know,
they having having you know, like a star stud a
roster like that where you've got a lot of guys
who are on big contracts, creates like a lot of
mouths to feed sort of situation, and that's and that
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can be challenging for for for any coach, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
And I think that's like honestly, like bradyes to this,
you guys said a few times.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I think over the course of the last couple of months,
like you know, Aj Brown, like one of the nick
Sirianni's being able to manage.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
A guy like that, because I don't think any everybody can.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
You know, And there's a reason why they're able to
roll the dice on a guy like Jalen Carter, who
a lot of teams had off their draft board.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
It's it's it's just sort of the way that they've
set their roster up, and you know, and a big
part of why Siriani is valuable to them and has
brought so much value to them is because there's ability
to manage all that. So we'll see what it looks
like in the end, but you know, these sort of bumps,
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you know, with that group of players. This isn't the
first time, you know, so, and we'll see where it
goes from here.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is there the chance that Mike Daniel survives after this season,
survives Black what is Black Monday? Is like, he's still
back in Miami next season?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Yeah? I think yes. The answer is yes.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
And I I I don't want to say definitively is
he is going to But if you look at their
you look at their schedule.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
I believe the next two weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I'm going to look it up for you guys here
because I know how good how that's good radio when
somebody's googling something. Uh, But they're really at their schedule
the next two weeks with the Saints and the Jets,
and so they win those two games. Now all of
a sudden, you're six and seven going into Pittsburgh on
a Monday night in mid December, you know, And so
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like the opportunities there for Mike McDaniel. The owner likes him,
and I think that that's you know, obviously going to
be a big factor any in any one of these
And one of the things that I know that.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
The owner has heard for people is.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Is well, you know, this guy is going to be
great and his second chance as a head coach, which.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
You know, I think we get any owner thinking well.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
What about you know, the first chance that I'm giving him,
Why can't he be that now?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You know?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
So I think that that's I think it's gonna be
interesting to see where this goes. And and really, the
barometer here, because this is the biggest question, and this
goes back to September and October. The barometer here is
going to be his ability to hold onto that locker
room and and and and to get the best performance
possible out of all those players, because you know, if
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you go back to September and October, things were kind
of a mess and there have been a star driven
culture there before, and I think it was really petering on.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You know, does Mike still have have this Mike still
have these guys, you know?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Or is this thing about to implode? And now it
looks like they've gotten it back on the tracks. And so,
you know, can Mike continue to you know, can I
continue to compel.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
That that group of players?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
And you know, you again, you look at the schedule
going forward, with the six games they've got left It's
just it looks to me at least like this is
a team that could, you know, find itself right there
in the precipice of five hundred, you know, going into
going into Pittsburgh on that Monday night in mid December,
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and it'll be really interesting to see how they come
out of the buy because they do have some momentum now.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Albert Berr joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Michael Pennix
junior out for the year. The Electa Falcons I think
have been a disappointment for a lot of people's expectations
going into the season. And now I just wonder what
is the feeling there about Raheem Morris because they kind of,
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I don't want to say they clowned Bill Belichick, but
they kind of made a spectacle of it. It went
the other direction, and yet here we are and they've
been really underwhelming under Raheem Morris.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Not only that, like Mike Frabel was kind of an
afterthought and approaching search they brought.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Him in, and like.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It was I mean, I think to some people it
almost felt like they were checking a box, you know,
so they passed on Mike Frabel, who I think they
very much could have had.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know, in twenty four.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
If if they choose to go down that route. So,
you know, I think you look at the opportunities they
passed on.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I think what's going to.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Be interesting here to me is how they assigned blame
for what happened what's happened at quarterback, right like, because
I think you you look at the investment and this
is real money, you know, like that the owner that
the owner's investing in, the real draft capital that the
owner's investing, and you just think about the impact of
what they've what they did in quarter a quarterback in
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twenty twenty four to make up for not having had
one a couple of years before that. Right, So, they
spend forty five million dollars per year on kirk Cousins.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
If they cut them after the year.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
They'll have sung almost one hundred million dollars into them.
It's going to be like the number is going to
be a little bit pungible based on like on on offsets,
but around one hundred million dollars on kirk Cousins for
two years to be in and out of the lineup,
then they'll then they'll have they'll have spent the eighth
overall pick on Michael Pennix, who probably won't be ready
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for the start of the twenty sixth season.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Okay, so now you're saying, like, we.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Overinvest in twenty four to try to get this right.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Probably neither of those guys are.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Going to be in uniform for us at the beginning
of twenty twenty six. And then you look at like
the cost of doing what they did there and spending
that high draft pick. After spending that money, well, they
spent that high draft pick, they didn't get a pass rusher,
and then they had to trade their twenty six first
round pick to go back into the twenty five first
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round to fix the defense. So now they don't have
a first round pick in twenty six either.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
As a result of all of this.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
It's a ten car pile up, you know what I mean. Like,
so I think a lot of this for Raheem, for
Terry font No, the general manager is going to come
down to assessing the damage on what they did at
quarterback in the spring of twenty twenty four, And that's
oversimplifying it a little bit. Look, you still have some
games left to try and dig yourself out of this
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hole if you're Aheem. But it's not a great situation
the amount of capital that the owner invested in trying
to get that position right.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
And I can see that we talked about this a
little bit earlier. I think one of the things that
I thought was interesting is it was a risky move
back when they did it, only because of the investment
that they made. But you do have to give him
credit for trying, right, Like, that's the position you got
to figure out. Well, granted you can say, like, hey,
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do you want to invest that much money and Kirk
Cousins off in Achilles and then invest money into a
top ten pick for a guy who's got this sort
of injury history, Like there was definitely some injury concerns
there that obviously you know, again I don't know how
much Raheem and Terry Fond who played a role in that,
But is there any like grace for Hey, we went
after it hard, we tried, this is our plan. It
just it's just kind of blown up. Like Cousins obviously
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never has been able to get back to what he
was And then you know, for Penix, it's kind of
been up and down, but obviously the injury now really
eliminates any potential of seeing what the rest of the
season could be.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Like, I mean part of the risks of Brady right Like,
it's like what I remember, what I what I would tell.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
People after they did that, right was, look, if they
get it right, if one of these guys is the answer,
if they're in the play if they're in the second
round of the playoffs, er in a conference championship game
with one of these guys' quarterback, it's.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Not going to matter what they spent.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The position is that important, right like, so so like
whatever you.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Saw, but they were a game away last year, So
where do you factor that at?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
And that's the thing no one remembers. No one remembers
what the Chiefs gave up to get.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Patrick Mahomes, right, Like, no one.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Remembered it because because it's irrelevant, Like they have Patrick Mahomes,
you know, same with Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
The Bills you know, had to do all kinds.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Of things to move up in the draft order to
get Josh Allen. It was like a two year process
of getting.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
A position to take them.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
No one cares because they have Josh Allen. Now this
is the flip side of it, right, Like it's like if.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
You're going to do that, you better not strike out,
and you.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Know, like and I think that that's sort of the
cost of doing business at this level. And now again
I would say if you talk to people who are
there before twenty four, you know, Arthur Smith's plan going
into twenty three was like, all right, like, we don't
believe in the twenty three draft class and what was
available to us, which it would have been Anthony Richards
and so they were actually right, you know, in twenty three,
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like we don't believe like that there's an answer that's
available to us in this year's draft.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
So we're going to kick the can.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Down the road. The owner was on board with it,
and then the whole thing blows up because they don't
have a quarterback in twenty three, and then the reactionary
thing is to go all the way in the other
direction over invest in the position in twenty four.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
So there's actually like kind of like a trail of.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Things here, you know, like where you look at it
and it's like.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Does this go all the.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Way back to like hanging on to Matt Ryan he
or too long, you know what I mean, Like, it's
just it's a complicated thing, and I think, you know,
there are a lot of people who I would say
had like the proverbial blood on their hands, right, But
like at the end, like do your.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Question is do they have quarterback?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Or are we looking at a franchise that it's going
to be going back into the draft in twenty twenty
seven to get one And it looks like they could
be that team, which isn't a great place for the
decision to makers to be right, But.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Before we get two years ahead of ourselves, I guess
the question is there were a game away from being
a playoff team last year. Do they look at this
year and just say they've had a bunch of injuries.
I mean, now Pennix is on our you know, you
look at how decimated they've been. They've been tight, you
know in games. Arthur Blanks seems to be the type
of phoneo that's been patient, Like does that play out
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or just because that moves?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
And I think he should be with Raheem Like I
just I think too highly over him as a football coach.
And I know too many people that know way more
about football than I do. Or ever will that think
so highly of him, you know. I mean, I'll give
you too, Kyle san An Sean McVay, like you know,
like like I know too many people that just think
so highly over him as a football coach that I
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would be very careful about, you know, making any sort
of rash decision. And I'm with you on that, like
I think, like look like you know, like is this
and is this a screwed up situation now?
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Quarterback? Absolutely, and you know it's.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Not a great spot to be in. And I don't
know if Michael Pennix is going to be their quarterback
two years from now. We just don't have enough information.
Can you separate that from making a decision on the
head coach and what you think of the head coach
and what the head coach can be.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
For you for the next ten years?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Like that's the real trick, right, Like.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
So can the owners do that?
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think Arthur Blank is shown in the past like
that he's got patients to make these sorts of decisions
in aterrational, interrational way. You know, we'll see because the
other thing.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Is, like you know, it's now been a while.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Since the Falcons were have been in the playoffs. I
think we're talking about what six or seven years now
since they were in the playoffs and the last team
that made the playoffs probably the year after they went
to the super Bowl in the seventeen season.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Seven years?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, So like it's been a long time. So now
does the owner have and I think this exists in
every market, right, does the owner have the sort of
armadillo skin to withstand the criticism which now is going
to be pointed at him, you know what I mean,
which is now going to be like the owner doesn't
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know what he's doing, you know, and a lot of
owners don't have don't have the don't have.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The wherewithal to do it.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I would say, like you give Arthur Blank the benefit
of the doubt because he generally has been pretty patient
as an owner.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
But sometimes it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
For those guys to take the sort of criticism that
comes their way when there's been you know, that long
period of failure, that's that that that that's.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Gone on under multiple coaches, which.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Again is how an organization winds up becoming destabilized.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Aby Man, last question for you is about the Commanders
one game away from the Super Bowl, a year ago
and this year he wins. I know, I know largely
in part due to just kind of how how Jaydeon
Daniel's health has played out. But it just kind of
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has this airly simular type of smell to it, like
RG three and some in some regards how should we
be you know, how should people be viewing the commanders
right now?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, I would say there's one big difference at the
very top of the organization and that I think it
would be tough to hang the failures of Daniel Snyder
around the neck of Josh Harris. We don't know how
Josh Harris is going to react to this.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
We do know how Daniel Snyder.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Did, and you know, like he was such a massive
part of the problem there, and that he empowered RG
three to carry himself a.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Certain way, and he empowered.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Him to I would say, do some things that undermine
what Mike Shanahan was trying to build there, which created
larger problems which ended up like resulting in that whole
thing blowing up.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I you know, I like.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Until further notice, LeVar, I think we can take this
as just a crappy year and some bad injury luck
and the Commanders had incredible injury luck last year, and
you know, like that swung back around and it got them,
you know, And.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
So I don't want to again. I don't want to
hang the.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Failures of Daniel Snyder around the neck of Josh Harris.
I don't want to hang the failures of Robert Griffin
the third around the neck of Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I don't think that's fair. You know.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I do think that there are real concerns, like and
I think one of them is they've gotten old very
very fast. You know, Adam Peterson and and and and
dan Quinn did an excellent job of finding veteran players
to patch holes, and the a lot of holes in
that roster when they got there. But a lot of
those guys were older, a lot of those guys were
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on one or two year deals, and there was a
lot longer rebuild required. And so you know, whether or not.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Like the Commanders come out of this, I think.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
It's going to depend on now their success with some
of the younger players that they drafted, Guys like Josh Connolly,
like Krossky Merritt, you know, like some of the guys
that that that have come into that building.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Over the course of the last couple.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Of years, Trey Amos, Mikey Sainer. Still, you know, can
those guys become frontline.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Players for them?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And then what do they do this year in the
draft with you know, a lot of their capitol drained
because they made trades for veteran players. It's those are
the real problems for the for the commanders to me,
like right that those are the things that they're going
to have to answer for. I think I think Jayden
Daniel is gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Be just fine.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
I think Dan Quinn is going to be just fine.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And we have no reason to believe that Josh Harris
is suddenly going to morph into Dan Snyder.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Maybe, uh, one quick one before we get to your
uh the pick on the big game in college football
this weekend? What the hell is going on with Kean Coleman, Like,
what's happening? Is he just not shown up to meetings
or what?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
What?
Speaker 7 (21:11):
What's Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean, like there's there's a there's a ton of
stuff that they've had to deal with.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
I think the kid has to grow up. What they're
trying to do is they're trying to put them in
a position.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Where they're trying to they're they're they're they're trying to say, Okay,
like if you want to be part of this, like
you need to carry yourself differently. There's a level of
responsibility that we demand from all of your players that you're.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Not exempt from.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
And so, you know, I think this is sort of
their attempt to sound the alarm to the kid and
and and and get him on a path where he
can be you know, a real factor for them in
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
They need him, you know, like I.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
The receiver spot there between Shavers and Shakir and you
know what they've got right now is is just okay.
And you know, getting more out of a high second
round pick, you know, by the end of December and
then into January, it would be absolutely huge for them.
So to me, this is a swing and trying to
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weigh keon Coleman up a little bit and we'll see
if it works, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I never fel.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
We didn't have I don't well, I mean, what's sort
of ask he's gonna be start?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just figured it a top there.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, he's getting first team reps. Guys like I that it's.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Unbelievable how this is like blown into like a cultural war.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's it's it's weird, man, I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
It has like it's like people get all fired up
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It's like, I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
This is no different than any other backup than now
is threat or string position.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean I was a backup. I was a starter.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
If I'm starting, I'm not giving away reps where you
don't get enough during the week to prepare as it is.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I'm sorry, I just I mean, you know what, Brady
I was thinking about this like that that The funny
thing about this is like you don't It doesn't even
need to be like we don't. You don't even need
to explain it to you from an NFL context, right,
Like to think about like a team you.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Were on in high school, Like how often was.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Your coach randomly throwing backups into the into the line.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm never getting ready for a game.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Never.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
It's like it should be relatable to anyone who has
a brain, has ever played football or been around football,
but somehow she won't to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
On the note of.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Coleman, it's just great injustice that it just doesn't make
any sense at all.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
But anyway, No, on.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
The note of Coleman, though, wouldn't it be better to
keep this stuff in house?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Like you you You.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Let this stuff get out and we don't know how
it's gonna work. Maybe he understands what they're trying to
do and he grows up. Maybe he doesn't, but like
once it becomes public, it kind of hurts you the
trade value. You know, at some point, can't you just
kind of keep this stuff in house, not broadcast, address them,
just not play him and let him know what and
he understands what's happening.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
I mean, I would say when you've already tried a
bunch of stuff, like you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean, what is the acting like a pennstated edge rusher?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Is that what's happening?
Speaker 8 (24:17):
No, I'm just saying between Micah Parson's Abdual Carter, we
can have a lot of questions of LeVar.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
That was that was That was unbelievably wow.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
I'm trying to wake up LeVar over there. I'm trying
to get him up off that hospital. Betty looks like
Hugh Freeze up in the press box calling the game
cold blooded?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Is this a heroic effort by LeVar today to make.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
It I'm just trying to get LeVar going.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Man, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going
to respond to to these people attempts to draw a
reaction out of me. I'm just I'm not going to
do it. And both of them happen to wear Levin too.
They they belonged to Stick City. You know, it is
what it is. You know, people should have the opportunity
to mature and grow up and make mistakes and you know,
(25:07):
make decisions. This is all all good.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Taking nap in a meeting, Alberta.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
People have fallen asleep in meetings. You know what I mean.
I mean, it's happened before you know, stand.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Up, I fall asleep. I fall asleep a lot of
weird random places.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So Alberta, stand up. Cool to sleep coming? You got
to stand up.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Quickly before we before we let you go. Uh Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Will they be better than Rutgers this weekend by more
than thirty one and a half points?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, I almost took them not to cover it myself
out of it last week, right, Like, so I'm not
going to talk myself out of this Swiss week?
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Well, Well we will, we will be.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We will be.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Rolling into uh into an Arbor there.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
There you go, I'd be worried about Michigan, Brady, I
don't think so, right.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I mean, you guys were the biggest favorite in the
history of the series, right, and you guys lost the
home last year.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I think it's play concern.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
By the way, because because here's the thing is, like,
I know you probably feel really confident about this year.
That's kind of how I felt about that matchup last year.
I mean, Michigan threw for what sixty yards in that game?
They still won, right, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Like that was like a that was I mean, that
was totally like it was in our heads and it's
like that got the best of us.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
I just don't think that's going to happen again, you know,
But I.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Guess I don't. I don't either, Bud. If I was
a betting man, I don't think it's going to happen.
I think the line's way too low. I would lay
the points easily with Ohio State there. But again, like
last year scarred me for life. We're I'll never be
able to look at this robbery again and say, yeah,
I don't care what the.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Point spread says. It's just usually going to be a
tighter game.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, but how do.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You feel about like a freshman quarterback against Matt Patricia.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, dude, trust me. Last week they had five turms
last week quarterback.
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Yeah yeah, but so none of that matters, and Bowie Bowie.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I would expect him to run a lot more.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I would expect them to unleash that element because this
game is a college football playoff game for them. If
they don't win, well, obviously they've got to you know,
win this week, but if they don't win next week,
they don't get in. So I would expect them to
utilize his legs like Biff Pogi did earlier.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
But yeah, yeah, Ab, we always appreciate it. Get him
on ex at Albert Greer, Senior NFI reporter, lead content
strategist at the m MPB, and we'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
All right.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
He happy Thanksgiving too.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
If we don't talk about there.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
He is, Yeah, there, he is a great autome by
the way, you know, Ab sounds like he was well rested.
LeVar not so much. And that's because LeVar doesn't have
a temper peedick. He's got to get the matches firm
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
I can't hear you? Are you is a volume? I
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Speaker 8 (32:57):
Sounds like you're it sounds like you really have a
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Two Hall of Famers on one station, Like I was,
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they going to say my name? And then they say
Colin and Dan. It's like wait, there's three And I
(33:27):
don't know. I fell left out. I mean, I know
I'm not a radio Hall of Famer and that will
be the conventional wisdom.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Then who doesn't feel left out?
Speaker 8 (33:34):
James Franklin because he's got a job now, at Virginia, Tay.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He's not a Hall of Famer, though I'm a Hall
of famer.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Well, you know, he's one of only I think two
head coaches to ever coach in the Big ten SEC
and what is now the ACC. Can you name the
other coach who's coached in three different conferences?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Big ten?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Three different conferences.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Three different conferences, doesn't have to be the exact same
as James Franklin, but Urban Meyer, I'm gonna say Lane
Kiffen not well, urban coach in the Mountain West. We're
kind of taking like the big boys like power.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Oh okay, so now it's specilations on because.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Brian Kelly would have fallen into that too.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
And okay, all right, okay, big boys, let's see big
Boy four power for would it be Lane Kiffin?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
It is not Lane Kiffin. M I mean that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He was close, though, wasn't he He's up to isn't
he two?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Well then twice in the SEC? Yeah, maybe three times.
It was the Florida Times. I'll just give it to
you because we're kind running up against it.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Lou Holtz, Oh coach coached everywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I mean he did, and that's why he falls in.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That literally coached everywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, so Minnesota good at it too.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
South Carolina the SEC he coached, Uh where did you coach?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
He coach the ACC before that.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
There's one of the school that's escaped me at the moment,
obviously Notre Dame, even though it's not a kind of conference.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He also coached the Jets for a time, so he
was in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I always wanted to play for Lou holtz Man. Lou Holtz,
Bobby Bowden, and Joe Paterno, those were the three guys
I wanted to play play for and coach Robinson. Obviously
my mom went to an HBCU, so I always thought,
I'm like that.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Was the other school at state yea, the Minnesota, South Carolina,
actually Arkansas before that, although I think Arkansas at that
time was probably in the Big Eight.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm I'm a I'm a big fan of Lou Holtz Man,
I really am. I'm I really enjoyed watching Notre Dame
football when he was the coach of of of the team.
Like that was my era of time growing up and
super influential. You know, It's a lot of great players
that played for him. Yeah, man, that was that's he's
(36:06):
a dope coach.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
He is he in the Hall of Fame yet, I'm
sure he's in now. So yeah, I'm sure he's under
that now. In fact, maybe I've seen him at the event.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Maybe, How'm not Hall of Fame for low Olds was
in the College Football Hall of Fame. Yeah, blame Sports Reference.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
That's on them.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, I'm blaming you, Jonas. But anyway, I felt left out,
do we?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
At least James Franklin and his introduction.
Speaker 12 (36:36):
I want to thank Penn State. I had twelve years there.
It's very unusual in college football to get twelve years
at a place. Most importantly, the relationships the staff, the players.
The players here in Virginia Tech are going to find out.
I'm a player's coach. That's what it's all about for me.
(36:56):
That's what it always will be.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Am.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I play for him, dude.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
He is an awesome dude. He's a good coach too.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
And I know it didn't work out of Penn State,
but you know, I think the next head coach is
going to have the same issues.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You know, fix that damn airport, all right, Happy Valley.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
He talks about that too. You know, he touched on
that referenced.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
I'm telling you like I'm unbiased, I'm objective.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I'm telling you right now. It is one of the
things that you.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
Hear from recruits, that you hear from players, that they'll
talk about how difficult it is to get there, like
I don't want to have my family, can't go there,
I can't, you know, It's just it's a whole thing,
and no one at Penn State seems to understand their
next head coach and the airport are intertwined together, like
figure it out. It's a legit problem for all parties involved.
But by the way he came out to enter Sandman,
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that was pretty badass.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
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He did lock out with his wife tones Man.
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Speaker 2 (41:15):
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There by Larairo. What we got?
Speaker 13 (41:18):
Okay, I found this super fun story yesterday. You know
the pop tart bull from last year while it's coming
back to Torts Burbie. We all love a pop tart.
My favorite's probably the wild berry flavor. Yeah, with the
purple frosted sugar.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Cinnamon, cherry, sugar, strawberry, strawberries like strawberry.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
That's the classes.
Speaker 6 (41:37):
Cherry's good too.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh yeah, cherry, that's my stuff.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
Oh well, you do.
Speaker 13 (41:43):
Get to pick which pop tart the team is going
to be able to devour. Yes, fans will decide which
edible mascot the team gets sacrificed.
Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (41:52):
The way they put that, Uh, they each with three
mascots face off in a flavor fueled showdown.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
As for word to vote, I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
But are they?
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Yeah, the whole thing toaster, it's absurd, the whole thing
so cool, it's amazing.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
It's what makes college football great. Shonas spit on pop
Tart's like it's scout on, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It's not a bastard.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
It's not a real pop tart though. What comes out
is more like a cake.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's a gigantic pop tart. What do you think a
pop tart is essentially a.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Little toasted little more like a cake.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, well you're a cake eater, so no, what's you damn?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh goodness, put his face all up in.
Speaker 6 (42:31):
Here, all up in it.
Speaker 13 (42:34):
Anyways, I guess we should move on.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
Okay, I'm going to give you guys options. Do you
want to talk about a dog or cheerleaders?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I mean, choose between two?
Speaker 13 (42:45):
All right, obviously you want to go with cheerleaders.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
You did?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
You? Did?
Speaker 12 (42:49):
You?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Guys?
Speaker 13 (42:50):
See that Bill Belichick went to Jordan Hudson's cheerleading competition
a good boyfriend. Oh my gosh, it looks like toddlers
and tiaras.
Speaker 8 (43:00):
Say there was another guy, guy, you're missing the lead.
She's in an adult cheerleading competition. Like this is a thing.
Adults have cheerleading teams.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
It's the It's the loser version of Beer League softball.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Yeah, are we being I didn't know this existed.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Is this like a whole different world I've never heard of.
Speaker 13 (43:20):
It's terrifying.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
I don't want to be in it.
Speaker 13 (43:22):
If it does exist.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I've never heard of it, but I do have a
cheerleader daughter, so y'all try it lightly on this dime.
Speaker 8 (43:28):
I get that, but I'm saying I didn't realize there
was life after college for cheerleading the NFL.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
There's dancing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I will strike back if they want to. If they
want to chair as adults, let them cheer as adults.
Good for you, Bill, Say that means she's using the
muscles keeping that body tight. Enjoy
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