November 26, 2025 • 45 mins
Today on the Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by reacting to Panthers safety Tre'von Moehrig being suspended after hitting 49ers WR Jauan Jennings with a low blow. They also discuss Lakers PG Luka Dončić’s comments on the new NBA Cup courts and share stories about their days playing on AstroTurf in another edition of “In Case You Missed It.” Next, they react to Bengals QB Joe Burrow’s return to the field this Thanksgiving and take a look at potential coaching vacancies that could emerge at the end of the season. Tune in for all that and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
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doing with them this morning? Mark?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Mark's old school like that, dude, that's our.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Old school pop blocking right. Yeah, that's the hardcore battle
dancing back then. That's how they They an't fight with
pipes and poles and chains and stuff like that. They
just used to dance. You know, this was battle music
right here. Huh huh.
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Blandino about this and he was correct. Spitting on somebody
(02:00):
is the same as a nut shot in the NFL
Trayvon Marrick Well, he was suspended one game without pay
for that nut shot that he delivered to Juwan Jennings
on Monday Night Football for the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The best part is he's going to appeal it. Now.
We had this.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Discussion about Jamar Chase when he spit on Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
What exactly is your argument here?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Are you appeal Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
When you can.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Clearly see him take a shot at the guy's balls
on television.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, social is unforgiving anymore too. By the way,
they capture this. I don't know how they be getting
these angles where they get it close closed up and
close up and zoomed in. He I mean he uppercuted
that man in his jangles unapologetically. I don't I don't
(02:54):
get the I don't get an appeal. I don't get
that at all.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I meant it as possible explanation for why he would
do what he did, because, as you point out, for
those who haven't seen this video, it is clear as
day he was going to punch him closed fist, not
a flick, not a backhanded t bag you know, tap, No,
he closed fist, uppercut, punched him right to the groin.
(03:23):
I mean it looked like he connected to like you
connected on that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Like lifted him off the ground. He made such contact
you could him that mass Nuts was screaming that one
street fighter.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That hurts?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm just I'm trying to figure out because it's
Derek Brooks and.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Hurt, bad looking for that man.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Who are going to hear the appeal? How long is
the appeal process? How long?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
What are we talking about here? Is this like a
fifteen to two seconds?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah? No, there's the video evidence.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, this one won't be long. I just wonder again
when they're appealing, are they appealing like for a lesser
of a penalty, or are they appealing, you know, to
try to say that they didn't mean it the way
that it was being being judged. That's what I wonder,
(04:29):
because this you can't be trying to say you're innocent
in this situation, Like there's no way even the spinning
one that was appealed. Is this just a formality? You
just got it, you have to appeal it. Like are
you doing it to get a lesser of a fine?
That's what I wonder in the details, Are you doing
it to get lesser of a penalty?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, I mean, he's you know, suspended one game without pay,
so I don't know like what portion of that paycheck
he thinks he's going to get.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Back, Like he just never know, you know what I mean.
I don't No, I don't know how that works. But
maybe that's what it is that he's appealing.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Though I also would think that maybe his argument could be, Look,
it was a punch, it's not as painful as like
a backhand flip. Like if you backhand flip somebody, there's
a lot of coverage.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
There, No that hurts.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
That hurts more than a punch, just does.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's not no way.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Backhand flip, a backhand flip, just like one of those
like you're just like smacking them backhand.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That hs. When I get back in studio, we're going
to do a demonstration and see which one hurts more.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Okay, but only yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
An upper cut punch or a backhand flip.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know what's interesting? Hold on, hold on, hold all right.
Maybe he's feels so emboldened to talk this way about
a nutshot because he actually paid off that bet that
he owed for Tony Romo. Maybe he finally paid it off,
and now he's like, yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Please go ahead there just bone yeah, yeah, perfect.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I'm not going to get taken out of context one
time on this network and then people got to play
the sound.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I wasn't here for it, so I don't you know,
that's y'all's thing. I wasn't. I wasn't around for that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That's your thing now, buddy, because.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You would have had to you You got to pay out,
like when you when you make a bet of significant
amount and portion in terms of what you're you're wagering,
you gotta pay, like if it's a and I mean,
I'll go as as much just saying even jerseys and
stuff like that, you gotta wear something. Then. I don't
(06:39):
know if me and Q did something for the Notre
Dame game, I don't know, but I just know, guys,
we're jerseys stuff. I don't think I'm glad we didn't.
I'm glad. I was very confident that we would win.
I was like, felt like I was protecting you. You know,
in the situation. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It was wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What was the bet between you guys?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It wasn't one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I guess there wasn't a bet.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm almost I don't know. Anyways, we know you had
a bet, and we know you didn't pay off the bet.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's that's by the way, if Tony gets ten million
dollars a year, I'm getting a sex change.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I can't here you go.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think Jonas paid it off.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Punching, Yeah, do whatever you want the time and place
and by the way, look around. I was ahead of
my time.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There's these kung fu dudes that like kick each other
that like that and get hit with logs that I've.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Seen that and they show like how how not allowed
to hurt?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes, that can't be real, right, it's real, it's real,
It is real.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
But how do you lose how do you lose feeling
down there? Enough?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Because I think they learn how to remove them from hanging,
and they're able to actually, you know, hold and suck
them in and hold the stance is what I think.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It's like a whack of them mole. They just suck
them up inside and they.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Suck them up bruh kick.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Have you seen what they'll do to train fighters. They'll
train their shins. They'll take a stick, you know, they'll
take a stick and they'll they'll just run it down
their shin constantly.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
So you lose this feeling in your ship.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Can you do that with you that's called grasping.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So you can't do that with your ballbag, I would assume.
So there's got to be some optical illusions for those
guys that are that are efforting that.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Or they just aren't endowed. Maybe I don't know, maybe
you have to be born into that to be able
to to practice that discipline, because I know I ain't
see no no brothers doing it. Man, I ain't see
no black folks doing it. Man, only well, what's that
supposed to be that Maybe that's just it just is
not possible for that discipline to apply to a brother
(09:03):
on the shoe.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't mean to go off on a complete tangent
of social media stuff that you come across and see
what he said there.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So he did.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But have you seen the guys who act like they're
using energy to like strike people and all that. Have
you guys seen that stuff? Wait? What Yeah, it's it's
like the stupidest content out there. But these guys act
like they they move energy in their body to then
like strike someone like very easily or simply.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I did see that, and he taught his pupil. It
was a good I believe he taught his pupil. And
then she multiple did it and then he passed out.
She hit him with so much energy that they had
to catchyep.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, really proved she hit him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
His body went lifeless. They had to catch master. Master
was falling to the floor, They had to catchep. They
was wiping his face. He started started sweating profusely. Finally,
when he putting that energy on him, Doug that sai.
(10:10):
It's a funny video. I do, I do recall that. Yes,
I've seen that she hit him with that energy build up. Boy,
if I could learn that, bruh. Imagine if somebody like
Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons or somebody learned that transfer
and of energy like that, and then you just come
off on the pass rush and you hit him with
(10:31):
that energy and they just dropped just three hundred pound
or just drop bloom. You know, then chip blocking wouldn't
wouldn't even matter anymore because you drop.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The NFL dang. I imagine Jonas is rushing off the
edge doing all that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I'd get there.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It'd be interesting to see like a guy built and
look like Jonas being able to like just own dudes
on the field. That would be interesting. Yeah, that supposed to. Man,
I'm just end.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You know, I wonder what Jonas would have liked his
trash talk would have sound.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know, you can't you can't envision one hundred and
eighty one pounds flying off the edge just lighting side.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I can not your one hundred and eighty one pounds.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, I think I weigh more than DeVante Smith.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
For what it's worth there you go.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
So it's a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah yeah, all right, Well I do know this skin
Hamore Pinkston, same team. I don't know who you think
who you think that one? It's pretty close you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Think your If your nickname is the slim Reaper, you
probably are even scarier than what a.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Show is on the media.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Gad And by the way, his diet, he eats garbage
if like Davante Smith has talked about it like he
doesn't like he's like we're talking fast food like constantly
and gets big poor. He just doesn't gain weight. He's
been the same weight since college. Like there's been no
he's player, but you can just ee whatever the hell
(12:02):
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Some news in the NBA. They're unveiling new courts. They
haven't vealed new courts for the NBA Cup. Have you
guys seen them?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, a lot of pain. So it's receiving last they did.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
They did something similar to it last year, but now
they have like they're very different in terms of very colorful.
So the Minnesota Tember will have a very neon green
wand or the Akers have a very yellow one. If
you look it up, you'll see them. They're not that great.
They have fallen victims to a lot of criticism from fans,
but just recently, actually tonight, after his forty three points
(15:12):
young against the Clippers, Lucas said this.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Which is the courts please, It's just slippery.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's fangerous.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So not only does it look bad, they also suck
and they're dangerous. So how do you guys feel about it?
They're slippery, but they they suck to play on. Yeah okay, yeah,
but he said they're slippery. Adjust the courts please, it's slippery,
it's dangerous. What do you guys think, Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean it's you know, anything to the court, anything
to for an NBA player to bitch, Like that's really
the whole goal, Like anything to complain about so they
can take a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Off what you're doing there. Some people think everyone's low management, Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Any excuse.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think if we're really like, if we actually cared
about player safety, we probably would have subjected football players
to playing on I don't know, astro turf back in
the day baseball fields where you've got like the diamond
slash and in a portion of the field and the
rest is like the grass.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Like, there's a number of things that I think we've
done throughout the course of time in the NFL, uh
and even other you know, professional sports that was didn't
really care about player safety, And it feels like the
NBA has fallen that same exact direction, like, let's not
worry about you know those guys out there slipping, you know,
guys who are large, flying high through the air. Let's
(16:40):
not worry about that. Let's just go ahead and paint
the floors. Because the fans that everyone really likes them
I can give two rips about whatever the court looks like.
I just want to watch the games.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
How bad? How bad was astro turf to play on?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, I thought it was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It was fast though, fast away.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That makes you feel really old because I look at
like other dudes who played on it like more than
I had to play. I only played on a couple
of times. But that makes you feel old when you
tell dudes like, yeah, I played on AstroTurf.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah I did. It was at the end though, I mean,
but I was fortunate enough to play on Three Rivers
Stadium astro turf for one of the last games. I
believe we lost, But I'm less I played. I played
on Pittsburgh Steel or astro turf as a pro, So
that was cool. I got to I got to feel
what it felt like to fall on that ground and
(17:40):
you know all that good stuff and get to burn.
It's the turf burns that's the worst, by the way.
I mean, when you fall on that concrete and carpet
and you slide for like five six yards and you
start to realize that if you go any further, you're
going to light up like a match going off of
a matchbook, Strike strike strip. But yeah, astro turf was
(18:01):
a thing.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Andrey Dawson when he played in Montreal at old Olympic Stadium. Uh,
he basically like, if you like, wrote a cheap check
to the Cubs to come play for them, even though
they were awful because the amount of damage that the
astro turf did to his knees running on that plane
in the outfield and he just wanted to get to
(18:22):
natural grass.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Makes sense now, Yeah, so not a.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
But listen makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Not too many publican plains, unlike the NBA, where you
know anything to do anything to gripe about, they will.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So it all makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Jonas, I agree, what up sticks? Crows and a couple
of Joe Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Bruh?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Up sticks? It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby
Joker and the Thief.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Trying to get you fired up?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I don't want to be fired up?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know. I got a volleyball game today, though,
fired up for that?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Are you in state college or you in Oregon?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's all over the place. Man, this dude's got the place.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I got Rutgers twice this week. So I got Rutgers.
I got Rutgers Saturday, and then all I have a Yeah,
I got volleyball in Maryland on Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So does the do you have Rutgers twice because of
the volleyball.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Team, Rutgers once because of volleyball, today, Rutgers twice on
Saturday because of football. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What's interesting about I'm noticing this trend is it almost
feels like the football team and the volleyball team like
move together.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, because Oregon Oregon played USC the same week. Yeah,
the football team did, I believe.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, there's been there's been another stop that we we
were on too, and there was a volleyball game against
that same team before that Saturday game. I can't recall
or remember who it was, but we were somewhere else where.
It was the exact same setup, which makes it cool.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I think, Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
When do you come back?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It was interesting these days man.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Never, I mean like this is like this is the
longest like road trip you've got on seeing the kidchen.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You know, it's interesting, like two weeks, just a little
I'll pull the curtain back a little bit. You know,
I've been working on something pretty cool with Schmiel Business
School at Penn State. And it's like on the final
you know, final like rundown, like like almost to the
finish line of completion of the whole you know, protocol
(20:47):
of everybody, each dean and uh decision maker has to make.
So yeah, I've been busy on this end. So it's
been pretty cool. I'm excited to have this opportunity, which,
by the way, I got a question for you guys.
All right, did you guys see did you guys see
the report on Shador Sanders where he did a deal
(21:12):
where if his content hits ten million views, it unlocks
a two million dollars something or other that he gets
paid for the content hitting that amount of views. Have
y'all seen that anywhere? Well, so I was checking it
out and I started thinking to myself, if this is
(21:35):
indeed true and you're actually able to leverage your brand
these days, because that is a very real thing, is
viewership Obviously, Like if you look at how things are
being monetized, a lot of it has to do it
in social media or on blog and you know, podcast
(21:55):
stuff like that. It's the viewership, right, it's the amount
of people that see it. So I guess, apparently understanding
how strong of a brand he's built in content, he
did this type of a distribution deal. Do you think
that that kind of complicates things?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Nil is one thing in college where you're taking your
name and likeness and you're building that name, image and likeness.
But in the league, the NFL, you build the name,
image and likeness off of the shield and everything else
is like kind of like a co star to the
shield and where to the point of where you sign
deals with the PA or whatever, with your likeness being
(22:37):
controlled by you know, the league, by the BA. Do
you think that changes if you're able to start making
your own deals and making your own money, how does
that look? Because I always felt like we were forced,
Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college.
I didn't. I did not sign with you know, my
(22:59):
life is in agreement. I didn't sign my likeness away.
I wanted to control my likeness and understand more about
how my name, image and likeness was being used. So
I had a whole thing with that, you know, with
my jerseys and cards and stuff like that. There was
a whole thing. But what does that do for athletes? Now?
You know, going into the league, if you if you're understanding,
(23:22):
you can use the league shield and use the league
as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that
alters the business of what the shield represent and represents
and how it's able to leverage the name, image and
likenesses of these these players that are coming in that
Oh oh oh oh, I'm just curious. I mean, is
(23:46):
it perfect timing? Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders
has now come into the league and it's taking it over.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I mean, he it is a takeover.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's a smart deal man that's.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Taking over this ship. Oh, I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I don't think it's the first deal of its type.
Maybe the first that we're made aware of, because Shador
and co. Seem to always make you aware of everything.
I do think like the deal in theory is great
and it's probably what a lot of deals have been
done in the past in regards to viewership on things right,
and that's typically how it works. All you're really doing
(24:24):
in social media is you're attributing. However, many views like
you talked about to then say you should want to
be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's
ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sure that brand can go through the player versus sving
to go through the team, you know, or the league
to get it done.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, but there's also there's also sponsors that aren't a
part of Like they're not an NFL sponsor, but they
could do that. I mean, they could do it in
college now, they can do that in the NFL. They
always could, you know, but if you're talking larger brands,
what if larger brand and large and larger brands would
have to do so they can select to do so,
but it depends on what the GLA states. But there's
(25:04):
still some one off campaigns of sponsors who only have
a single athlete in it. You know, you don't always
have to have a group of athletes to be a
part of that. But it all depends on if he
signed the GLA or not.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just I'm curious as to how that n I L.
I didn't I guess I never stopped to think about
how NIL could impact the National Football League, you know,
but this is some way, this is a way that
it could possibly impact it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What do you think is different that he's doing that
hasn't been done.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Before, well, because you don't have to. I guess it's
the control of the likeness of the player, like no
one's ever. Really, I don't want to say no one's ever,
But if you think about.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It, guys are the way you're outside of you know,
you just can't worry that your team or NFL logo.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's that's correct, But the usage of your your likeness
by the league or by the team like that's now
has to become a conversation because now I'm looking at
the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract,
you have to look at that contract and see what
that represents for how your likeness is being used. I
(26:16):
don't know that. Is there a ton of language and
I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language
in your player contract that talks about the usage of
your likeness.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My experience in all of that was like, if your
likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you
were going to be you know, contacted about that. There's
usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner.
It wasn't like they would just use it and you
wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be
a conversation there about that and how that would work
and if they if you wanted to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That or not. And what's that is that in the
con is that contractually stay separate couries?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Is that just a it's a separate contract.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So the team would have to bring a separate contract
altogether to you to represent a I.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Will give you an apples apples comparison. It's like right
now with Scott Shapiro emails you and says, we would
like to do this for FSR. And you know they're
using your dam in likeness to promote a product or
a good that we do on the show, and you
know it's within your contract. Right. So there's certain elements
of it, whether there maybe additional conversation or opportunity, and
(27:23):
there's certain elements that you're probably not receiving all of it,
right m M.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I just I find it to be interesting because if
you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness, where
does that Where does that line start? You know, where
does it begin? Where does it end as to how
you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever it may be.
I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how
(27:52):
it's how it is.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I don't think any of it's changed. I think what's
more likely to change is there to be more of
a grid blessing agreements the college level. But you know
that's that's more likely to change when they unionize and
there becomes greater steps towards a professional sport as opposed
to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood the college football
realm change is not NFL.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Maybe you can write a better song with all that
money you got.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, another song, because we only got this one?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Does he have other songs?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I want about Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah, because Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Is this one or LaMelo? Which one? Or li Angelo better?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get
like play both for Petros and see what he thinks.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
But I think he's gonna goell ball, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Think that you think so? I mean, that's his intro song.
He's tired of it though, little you should do perfect timing,
all right.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So Joe Burrow's back.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
The Cincinnati Bengals are taking on the Baltimore Ravens that
may or may not be part of our picks against
the spread coming up next hour on the show. And
so you know, the there is some optimism there with
Burrow back that that he's been a full participant and
he's gonna go ahead and try and give it a go.
(29:20):
And here's my question. If he goes out there and
they do what I think a lot of people expect
them to do and lose, then we're just gonna just
gonna keep on keeping on, just keep keep rolling him
out there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know
where people are going with this. I love the fact
that he's not gonna sit. He's you know, gonna play
if he's healthy enough to play, as you should. And
it would first off, it be tough for Zach Tiller
to watch his team out there not having their starter play.
If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his
(29:54):
demise as a head coach. But also for the fans,
you know, I think there's a real element of man
these fans by season tickets to see Joe Burrow play
in large part the rest of the team too, but
let's not be ignorant to it. They want to see
Joe Burrow, to Jamar Chase and t Higgins and they
want to watch that, you know, continue throughout the rest
of the season if he's healthy enough to go. So
(30:15):
I think if you're going to play the conspiracy theory
of why you'd sit him, obviously he's dealt with injuries,
so you don't want to have to have him suffer
something else that caused him to miss next year. But
there's also the thought of if you got three and
eight and this thing goes the right way for you,
maybe end up with a top five pick and you're
either drafting someone to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think
(30:35):
we all believe this is last year there. Yeah, so
you get an edge rusher potentially the best one coming
out of college, or you know, who knows whatever else
they need o line, you know, or think a trade back,
and then maybe a couple of players who end up
helping out this roster, in particular on defense that has
really really struggled. So there is some merit I think,
(30:56):
to like the thought of, well, it's not the worst
thing in the world. The Bengals finished with three or
four wins, but come on, man, like every fan out
there showering down skyline Chili with some greater's ice cream
after that, they were waiting to see Joe Burrow back
in that uniform.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
M Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a
little bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow,
like there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I
used to think it was just mcaulay cockin Cochin, but
it's kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this,
it's been a bad season for them. I think without
(31:34):
Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest.
He is clearly a difference maker. Uh and and so
getting him back I think does I guess serve the
purpose of the conversation that the North has been so
bad this year. I mean it's still it still does
(31:54):
maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the
season could end up being, you know, how can end
up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is
is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of
how he's paid, but I mean the way he plays
it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah,
(32:15):
I know, you guys, you know have said the defense
and you know that they're you can't outscore defense. That
can't stop an offense. I get that they're awful. They
aren't they aren't very good, and and Joe Burrow obviously
doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game.
But I do think there's a lot at stake. I
(32:36):
think there's a lot on the line. You know, they
they're paying out a lot of money to a lot
of these players that are on that offense side of
the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of
have justified things that way, you know, I think that
you have to show that you can be a better team,
even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just
(32:57):
got to show that your team is going in the
right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow
back out there on the field is probably the only
way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able
to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season, it.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Just feels like a wasted year.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It feels like a great quarterback and great players on
offense who have had another year wasted. And it doesn't
feel like the defense is one player away. It feels
like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and
maybe this is you know, a thought in the back
of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are
a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that
(33:37):
Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could
have won and had a lead in against the Rams,
and look at that and go, that's the closest we're
going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows
close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling
to get anywhere close to what they did that year.
And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've
(34:00):
got Lamar Jackson, You've got It's just such a daunting
task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to
where they were that year when they went to the
Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels
like another year down the drain, another year where he's
banged up. Can you think of the last time like
he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment,
(34:22):
like something's popped up, like he missed, you know, Jake
Browning had to start a bunch of games because he
missed significant time.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Last year. They were a disaster and whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
You weren't complaining about that when brown came out no.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I mean, listen, I think it's important to show the
family like they do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I mean, family, why can't you do last year? Last
year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games.
He didn't miss any time, so that that would have
been last year they were referring to.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean, and then last year what happened. They started
off the season poorly, and then they were scrambling to
try and make up ground. They were losing games again
on defense. It just it feels like there's always something
with this team. There's always an issue. Either he's banged
up or they struggle early in the season, and Zach
Taylor says, we're going to play him in the in
the preseason this year. We want our start to look differently,
(35:12):
and it's like, Okay, they win the first couple of games,
hurts his foot, and then it's just a downward slide
after that. It just feels like there's something. I don't
know if it's snake bit, but there's something that goes
wrong with this franchise every single year. And it was
noisy there in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff
and the contracts getting done. It just feels like they
had their opportunity. And I wonder if there are people
(35:34):
and you know, it wasn't Prisco one of those guys
who said they're going to go to all these super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't know, said they were going to win multiple
super Bowls in ten years. I just say, we're basically
going to be on year seven, you know, for him to.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Be able to clam it ain't gonna happen. That ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
He does sort of walk that back now, which is funny.
You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty
two season and there's many people at CBS will back
this up. On Prisco, he was already been just just
tell me I'm right, tell me all is right. Just
tell me all was right. We're like, Pete, they got
to the Super Bowl, they haven't won it. But he's like, no,
just tell me All was right. Like he wanted to
announce that he had predicted it right because he knew
(36:12):
they were going to lose in the Super Bowl and
he was gonna have to deal with the fallout. So
he was trying his best to make sure people would
contract be like nope, Like, yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right,
But that's Pete for you. You know.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back, because I
know it's hard to punish a guy verse quarters he
should be, but I mean they've missed the playoffs three
straight years and they're gonna miss this year.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
So that the three straight years they've.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Missed the playoffs. It just at some point, I know
they're patient. They gave Marvin Lewis h.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So so Q said he should be back. Should he
be back Jonas?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But
if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you
know what, we need to see more from this team.
We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted
job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait,
I can work with Joe Burrow. That's my starting point.
(37:13):
I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I would push back a little bit because I think
most coaches are taking jobs. Yes, they want to work
with Burrow. He's one of the best talents, no doubt
in the league. Jim Harball left to go to the
Chargers to work with Justin Herbert, and Justin Herbert is
one of the best talents in the league. The truth
in the matter is there's more than just the quarterback.
(37:37):
Like I would actually probably prioritize the ownership group. And
that's where, again not to take shots at the Bengals ownership.
You know they've done a good job with how much
money they put into it. They probably maximize more with
less than anyone else in the league. But there is
that always hanging over their head, and that is something
(37:57):
that like as much as attractive as it would be,
got to fix the defense. You have to rebuild up
that side of the ball. You have to figure out
what way to keep you know, Burrow healthy. Tough division
to plan, and you've got an ownership group that doesn't
want to spend a ton of money. Now they've done
so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase t Higgins,
but then you find, you know, the Trey Hendrickson deal
(38:18):
where they're basically going to have to kind of send
him on his way after this year. So I just
I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow, it's
without a doubt an attractive job, but I think you've
got to be careful too, of putting yourself in bed
with an organization that has tended to not want to
push the resources there or expand their scouting department to
be the same as other organizations out there that have
(38:39):
a very robust scouting department and all that goes along
with that. I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude,
they've got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like,
come on, like they literally you have to walk across
underneath the overpass and there's a bubble on the other side.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
It worse practice. Today, it's at the Bounce House. Temperatures
are in the thirties. We're gonna play in the Bouts
House today, all right. So let me ask you this
that you.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why can
do it though, that is what I would say, And
make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce,
you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it
on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food
in that facility into a winner, and it had to
turn your food into a winner as well. No matter
what day it is, no matter where you are, make
(39:25):
sure you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what
you're eating, add a little bit to it and that
Louisiana hot. Yeah, you will enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Make sure you buy you some both.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which
is a better job if the Bengals job opens up
Cincinnati or the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Giants, you have more talent and sensey, but you do
have the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership
situation in New York. And you know that New York
is MO devated to win as well. They they will,
(40:05):
they will do what they think it takes to to
build a winner. Now. I don't know what's happened as
of late. It could be the GM situation, Like I know,
it was much more it was much more stable under
(40:26):
the reign of Ernie A. Corsi and than he left
it to. I want to say, Reese, I believe I
think they they did a fine job. But I thought
there was a decline that started to take place. I
don't know that they've at any point really recovered from
that era of time and how they were bringing players
(40:47):
in or even you know, post like maybe you just
say post Tom Coughlin. You know, tenure there as well.
I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same, But
I think the opportunity to build it into a winner
is probably greater and better as an organization in New York.
(41:08):
But I don't know sincey that well, I just know
based off of what I listened to, you know, what
Q says about him. I mean, I have heard the
reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that plays
out in the media, but I mean, hey, I mean
giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know, and
I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we got
(41:29):
an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It sounded like,
you know, Mayor didn't want want to lose Saquon, but
he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions.
So I would say New York, but it seems like
since he has the better roster, at least has better
pieces to be able to build that. But some would
(41:52):
argue that, I don't know, they got a good defense.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I would say ownership group Giants probably with the
amount of money they've spent and what they're with their
track record, you say, I late, they've been through a
lot of head coaches, but at the same time they're
also trying to get find the answer and to get
it right. But I think the more attractive job would
probably be Cincinnati, and just because Burrow, I mean, unless
like coach feels really like he's really tied into Jackson Dart,
(42:19):
I don't you know, I'm not. He's so unproven at
this point as far as what he is. I think
you'd rather feel safer going to the Bengals, who've also
been patient in the past with some of their head coaches,
which is why I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor.
But I think, you know, the Burrow attracting this of
that would outweigh not having really any ability to bring
(42:43):
in your guy. I mean, that's one of the thoughts
behind it, is you're coming in there taking over a
team that you've got a quarterback. He's gonna be going
into a second year. I mean, he's in his rookie
year now, but he's going to a second year. You've
got him for another at least two three years, so
you better feel really, really good about it. Otherwise it's
gonna be hard to move on from him. If you
(43:03):
don't feel like he's your guy. And that's how most
of those head coaching changes, you know work. You know,
they want to bring in someone who they feel like
is their guy or have their pick at quarterback if
they're gonna be in bed with them.
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doing with them this morning? Mark?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Mark's old school like that, dude, that's our.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Old school pop blocking right. Yeah, that's the hardcore battle
dancing back then. That's how they They an't fight with
pipes and poles and chains and stuff like that. They
just used to dance. You know, this was battle music
right here. Huh huh.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
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Blandino about this and he was correct. Spitting on somebody
(02:00):
is the same as a nut shot in the NFL
Trayvon Marrick Well, he was suspended one game without pay
for that nut shot that he delivered to Juwan Jennings
on Monday Night Football for the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The best part is he's going to appeal it. Now.
We had this.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Discussion about Jamar Chase when he spit on Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
What exactly is your argument here?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Are you appeal Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
When you can.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Clearly see him take a shot at the guy's balls
on television.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, social is unforgiving anymore too. By the way,
they capture this. I don't know how they be getting
these angles where they get it close closed up and
close up and zoomed in. He I mean he uppercuted
that man in his jangles unapologetically. I don't I don't
(02:54):
get the I don't get an appeal. I don't get
that at all.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I meant it as possible explanation for why he would
do what he did, because, as you point out, for
those who haven't seen this video, it is clear as
day he was going to punch him closed fist, not
a flick, not a backhanded t bag you know, tap, No,
he closed fist, uppercut, punched him right to the groin.
(03:23):
I mean it looked like he connected to like you
connected on that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Like lifted him off the ground. He made such contact
you could him that mass Nuts was screaming that one
street fighter.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That hurts?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, I'm just I'm trying to figure out because it's
Derek Brooks and.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Hurt, bad looking for that man.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Who are going to hear the appeal? How long is
the appeal process? How long?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
What are we talking about here? Is this like a
fifteen to two seconds?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah? No, there's the video evidence.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, this one won't be long. I just wonder again
when they're appealing, are they appealing like for a lesser
of a penalty, or are they appealing, you know, to
try to say that they didn't mean it the way
that it was being being judged. That's what I wonder,
(04:29):
because this you can't be trying to say you're innocent
in this situation, Like there's no way even the spinning
one that was appealed. Is this just a formality? You
just got it, you have to appeal it. Like are
you doing it to get a lesser of a fine?
That's what I wonder in the details, Are you doing
it to get lesser of a penalty?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well, I mean, he's you know, suspended one game without pay,
so I don't know like what portion of that paycheck
he thinks he's going to get.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Back, Like he just never know, you know what I mean.
I don't No, I don't know how that works. But
maybe that's what it is that he's appealing.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Though I also would think that maybe his argument could be, Look,
it was a punch, it's not as painful as like
a backhand flip. Like if you backhand flip somebody, there's
a lot of coverage.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
There, No that hurts.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
That hurts more than a punch, just does.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's not no way.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Backhand flip, a backhand flip, just like one of those
like you're just like smacking them backhand.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That hs. When I get back in studio, we're going
to do a demonstration and see which one hurts more.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Okay, but only yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
An upper cut punch or a backhand flip.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You know what's interesting? Hold on, hold on, hold all right.
Maybe he's feels so emboldened to talk this way about
a nutshot because he actually paid off that bet that
he owed for Tony Romo. Maybe he finally paid it off,
and now he's like, yeah, go.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Please go ahead there just bone yeah, yeah, perfect.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I'm not going to get taken out of context one
time on this network and then people got to play
the sound.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I wasn't here for it, so I don't you know,
that's y'all's thing. I wasn't. I wasn't around for that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That's your thing now, buddy, because.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You would have had to you You got to pay out,
like when you when you make a bet of significant
amount and portion in terms of what you're you're wagering,
you gotta pay, like if it's a and I mean,
I'll go as as much just saying even jerseys and
stuff like that, you gotta wear something. Then. I don't
(06:39):
know if me and Q did something for the Notre
Dame game, I don't know, but I just know, guys,
we're jerseys stuff. I don't think I'm glad we didn't.
I'm glad. I was very confident that we would win.
I was like, felt like I was protecting you. You know,
in the situation. I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It was wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
What was the bet between you guys?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It wasn't one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I guess there wasn't a bet.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Are we sure?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I'm almost I don't know. Anyways, we know you had
a bet, and we know you didn't pay off the bet.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's that's by the way, if Tony gets ten million
dollars a year, I'm getting a sex change.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I can't here you go.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I think Jonas paid it off.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Punching, Yeah, do whatever you want the time and place
and by the way, look around. I was ahead of
my time.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There's these kung fu dudes that like kick each other
that like that and get hit with logs that I've.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Seen that and they show like how how not allowed
to hurt?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes, that can't be real, right, it's real, it's real,
It is real.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
But how do you lose how do you lose feeling
down there? Enough?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Because I think they learn how to remove them from hanging,
and they're able to actually, you know, hold and suck
them in and hold the stance is what I think.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
It's like a whack of them mole. They just suck
them up inside and they.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Suck them up bruh kick.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Have you seen what they'll do to train fighters. They'll
train their shins. They'll take a stick, you know, they'll
take a stick and they'll they'll just run it down
their shin constantly.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
So you lose this feeling in your ship.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Can you do that with you that's called grasping.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
So you can't do that with your ballbag, I would assume.
So there's got to be some optical illusions for those
guys that are that are efforting that.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Or they just aren't endowed. Maybe I don't know, maybe
you have to be born into that to be able
to to practice that discipline, because I know I ain't
see no no brothers doing it. Man, I ain't see
no black folks doing it. Man, only well, what's that
supposed to be that Maybe that's just it just is
not possible for that discipline to apply to a brother
(09:03):
on the shoe.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't mean to go off on a complete tangent
of social media stuff that you come across and see
what he said there.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So he did.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But have you seen the guys who act like they're
using energy to like strike people and all that. Have
you guys seen that stuff? Wait? What Yeah, it's it's
like the stupidest content out there. But these guys act
like they they move energy in their body to then
like strike someone like very easily or simply.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I did see that, and he taught his pupil. It
was a good I believe he taught his pupil. And
then she multiple did it and then he passed out.
She hit him with so much energy that they had
to catchyep.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, really proved she hit him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
His body went lifeless. They had to catch master. Master
was falling to the floor, They had to catchep. They
was wiping his face. He started started sweating profusely. Finally,
when he putting that energy on him, Doug that sai.
(10:10):
It's a funny video. I do, I do recall that. Yes,
I've seen that she hit him with that energy build up. Boy,
if I could learn that, bruh. Imagine if somebody like
Miles Garrett or Michael Parsons or somebody learned that transfer
and of energy like that, and then you just come
off on the pass rush and you hit him with
(10:31):
that energy and they just dropped just three hundred pound
or just drop bloom. You know, then chip blocking wouldn't
wouldn't even matter anymore because you drop.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The NFL dang. I imagine Jonas is rushing off the
edge doing all that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
I'd get there.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It'd be interesting to see like a guy built and
look like Jonas being able to like just own dudes
on the field. That would be interesting. Yeah, that supposed to. Man,
I'm just end.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You know, I wonder what Jonas would have liked his
trash talk would have sound.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
You know, you can't you can't envision one hundred and
eighty one pounds flying off the edge just lighting side.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I can not your one hundred and eighty one pounds.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, I think I weigh more than DeVante Smith.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
For what it's worth there you go.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
So it's a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah yeah, all right, Well I do know this skin
Hamore Pinkston, same team. I don't know who you think
who you think that one? It's pretty close you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Think your If your nickname is the slim Reaper, you
probably are even scarier than what a.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Show is on the media.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Gad And by the way, his diet, he eats garbage
if like Davante Smith has talked about it like he
doesn't like he's like we're talking fast food like constantly
and gets big poor. He just doesn't gain weight. He's
been the same weight since college. Like there's been no
he's player, but you can just ee whatever the hell
(12:02):
he wants and then not get fat. Apparently he's gifted
like that. He's probably a great skater as well too.
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Speaker 5 (13:55):
What up, what up? What up?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Guys, Thanks for having me again. It's the last I'll
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That's all right, done a bang up job.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Hopefully we won't miss your Shay. Yeah, what do you
say like that?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I don't know. I just feel bad for you guys
if you missed me. I mean, at least, why would
you feel bad if we missed you.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I don't see my exes, my mom and it really
breaks them, so I don't want to do it to
you guys. I mean, I go, oh, I get it, man,
and I'm trying to be nice.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, it was a nice thing. At least she showed up,
though Lorrain is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, I know, it's crazy day before too. It's still
a workday, guys. Come on, I'll be here on Thanksgiving anyway.
Some news in the NBA. They're unveiling new courts. They
haven't vealed new courts for the NBA Cup. Have you
guys seen them?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Yeah, a lot of pain. So it's receiving last they did.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
They did something similar to it last year, but now
they have like they're very different in terms of very colorful.
So the Minnesota Tember will have a very neon green
wand or the Akers have a very yellow one. If
you look it up, you'll see them. They're not that great.
They have fallen victims to a lot of criticism from fans,
but just recently, actually tonight, after his forty three points
(15:12):
young against the Clippers, Lucas said this.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Which is the courts please, It's just slippery.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's fangerous.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So not only does it look bad, they also suck
and they're dangerous. So how do you guys feel about it?
They're slippery, but they they suck to play on. Yeah okay, yeah,
but he said they're slippery. Adjust the courts please, it's slippery,
it's dangerous. What do you guys think, Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I mean it's you know, anything to the court, anything
to for an NBA player to bitch, Like that's really
the whole goal, Like anything to complain about so they
can take a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Off what you're doing there. Some people think everyone's low management, Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Any excuse.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I think if we're really like, if we actually cared
about player safety, we probably would have subjected football players
to playing on I don't know, astro turf back in
the day baseball fields where you've got like the diamond
slash and in a portion of the field and the
rest is like the grass.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Like, there's a number of things that I think we've
done throughout the course of time in the NFL, uh
and even other you know, professional sports that was didn't
really care about player safety, And it feels like the
NBA has fallen that same exact direction, like, let's not
worry about you know those guys out there slipping, you know,
guys who are large, flying high through the air. Let's
(16:40):
not worry about that. Let's just go ahead and paint
the floors. Because the fans that everyone really likes them
I can give two rips about whatever the court looks like.
I just want to watch the games.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
How bad? How bad was astro turf to play on?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, I thought it was terrible.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It was fast though, fast away.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That makes you feel really old because I look at
like other dudes who played on it like more than
I had to play. I only played on a couple
of times. But that makes you feel old when you
tell dudes like, yeah, I played on AstroTurf.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah I did. It was at the end though, I mean,
but I was fortunate enough to play on Three Rivers
Stadium astro turf for one of the last games. I
believe we lost, But I'm less I played. I played
on Pittsburgh Steel or astro turf as a pro, So
that was cool. I got to I got to feel
what it felt like to fall on that ground and
(17:40):
you know all that good stuff and get to burn.
It's the turf burns that's the worst, by the way.
I mean, when you fall on that concrete and carpet
and you slide for like five six yards and you
start to realize that if you go any further, you're
going to light up like a match going off of
a matchbook, Strike strike strip. But yeah, astro turf was
(18:01):
a thing.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Andrey Dawson when he played in Montreal at old Olympic Stadium. Uh,
he basically like, if you like, wrote a cheap check
to the Cubs to come play for them, even though
they were awful because the amount of damage that the
astro turf did to his knees running on that plane
in the outfield and he just wanted to get to
(18:22):
natural grass.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Makes sense now, Yeah, so not a.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
But listen makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Not too many publican plains, unlike the NBA, where you
know anything to do anything to gripe about, they will.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So it all makes sense.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Jonas, I agree, what up sticks? Crows and a couple
of Joe Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Bruh?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Up sticks? It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby
Joker and the Thief.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Trying to get you fired up?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I don't want to be fired up?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know. I got a volleyball game today, though,
fired up for that?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Are you in state college or you in Oregon?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's all over the place. Man, this dude's got the place.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I got Rutgers twice this week. So I got Rutgers.
I got Rutgers Saturday, and then all I have a Yeah,
I got volleyball in Maryland on Friday.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
So does the do you have Rutgers twice because of
the volleyball.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Team, Rutgers once because of volleyball, today, Rutgers twice on
Saturday because of football. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
What's interesting about I'm noticing this trend is it almost
feels like the football team and the volleyball team like
move together.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, because Oregon Oregon played USC the same week. Yeah,
the football team did, I believe.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, there's been there's been another stop that we we
were on too, and there was a volleyball game against
that same team before that Saturday game. I can't recall
or remember who it was, but we were somewhere else where.
It was the exact same setup, which makes it cool.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I think, Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
When do you come back?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It was interesting these days man.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Never, I mean like this is like this is the
longest like road trip you've got on seeing the kidchen.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You know, it's interesting, like two weeks, just a little
I'll pull the curtain back a little bit. You know,
I've been working on something pretty cool with Schmiel Business
School at Penn State. And it's like on the final
you know, final like rundown, like like almost to the
finish line of completion of the whole you know, protocol
(20:47):
of everybody, each dean and uh decision maker has to make.
So yeah, I've been busy on this end. So it's
been pretty cool. I'm excited to have this opportunity, which,
by the way, I got a question for you guys.
All right, did you guys see did you guys see
the report on Shador Sanders where he did a deal
(21:12):
where if his content hits ten million views, it unlocks
a two million dollars something or other that he gets
paid for the content hitting that amount of views. Have
y'all seen that anywhere? Well, so I was checking it
out and I started thinking to myself, if this is
(21:35):
indeed true and you're actually able to leverage your brand
these days, because that is a very real thing, is
viewership Obviously, Like if you look at how things are
being monetized, a lot of it has to do it
in social media or on blog and you know, podcast
(21:55):
stuff like that. It's the viewership, right, it's the amount
of people that see it. So I guess, apparently understanding
how strong of a brand he's built in content, he
did this type of a distribution deal. Do you think
that that kind of complicates things?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Nil is one thing in college where you're taking your
name and likeness and you're building that name, image and likeness.
But in the league, the NFL, you build the name,
image and likeness off of the shield and everything else
is like kind of like a co star to the
shield and where to the point of where you sign
deals with the PA or whatever, with your likeness being
(22:37):
controlled by you know, the league, by the BA. Do
you think that changes if you're able to start making
your own deals and making your own money, how does
that look? Because I always felt like we were forced,
Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college.
I didn't. I did not sign with you know, my
(22:59):
life is in agreement. I didn't sign my likeness away.
I wanted to control my likeness and understand more about
how my name, image and likeness was being used. So
I had a whole thing with that, you know, with
my jerseys and cards and stuff like that. There was
a whole thing. But what does that do for athletes? Now?
You know, going into the league, if you if you're understanding,
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you can use the league shield and use the league
as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that
alters the business of what the shield represent and represents
and how it's able to leverage the name, image and
likenesses of these these players that are coming in that
Oh oh oh oh, I'm just curious. I mean, is
(23:46):
it perfect timing? Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders
has now come into the league and it's taking it over.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I mean, he it is a takeover.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's a smart deal man that's.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Taking over this ship. Oh, I know that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I don't think it's the first deal of its type.
Maybe the first that we're made aware of, because Shador
and co. Seem to always make you aware of everything.
I do think like the deal in theory is great
and it's probably what a lot of deals have been
done in the past in regards to viewership on things right,
and that's typically how it works. All you're really doing
(24:24):
in social media is you're attributing. However, many views like
you talked about to then say you should want to
be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's
ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sure that brand can go through the player versus sving
to go through the team, you know, or the league
to get it done.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, but there's also there's also sponsors that aren't a
part of Like they're not an NFL sponsor, but they
could do that. I mean, they could do it in
college now, they can do that in the NFL. They
always could, you know, but if you're talking larger brands,
what if larger brand and large and larger brands would
have to do so they can select to do so,
but it depends on what the GLA states. But there's
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still some one off campaigns of sponsors who only have
a single athlete in it. You know, you don't always
have to have a group of athletes to be a
part of that. But it all depends on if he
signed the GLA or not.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just I'm curious as to how that n I L.
I didn't I guess I never stopped to think about
how NIL could impact the National Football League, you know,
but this is some way, this is a way that
it could possibly impact it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
What do you think is different that he's doing that
hasn't been done.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Before, well, because you don't have to. I guess it's
the control of the likeness of the player, like no
one's ever. Really, I don't want to say no one's ever,
But if you think about.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It, guys are the way you're outside of you know,
you just can't worry that your team or NFL logo.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's that's correct, But the usage of your your likeness
by the league or by the team like that's now
has to become a conversation because now I'm looking at
the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract,
you have to look at that contract and see what
that represents for how your likeness is being used. I
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don't know that. Is there a ton of language and
I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language
in your player contract that talks about the usage of
your likeness.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My experience in all of that was like, if your
likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you
were going to be you know, contacted about that. There's
usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner.
It wasn't like they would just use it and you
wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be
a conversation there about that and how that would work
and if they if you wanted to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That or not. And what's that is that in the
con is that contractually stay separate couries?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Is that just a it's a separate contract.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So the team would have to bring a separate contract
altogether to you to represent a I.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Will give you an apples apples comparison. It's like right
now with Scott Shapiro emails you and says, we would
like to do this for FSR. And you know they're
using your dam in likeness to promote a product or
a good that we do on the show, and you
know it's within your contract. Right. So there's certain elements
of it, whether there maybe additional conversation or opportunity, and
(27:23):
there's certain elements that you're probably not receiving all of it,
right m M.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I just I find it to be interesting because if
you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness, where
does that Where does that line start? You know, where
does it begin? Where does it end as to how
you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever it may be.
I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how
(27:52):
it's how it is.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I don't think any of it's changed. I think what's
more likely to change is there to be more of
a grid blessing agreements the college level. But you know
that's that's more likely to change when they unionize and
there becomes greater steps towards a professional sport as opposed
to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood the college football
realm change is not NFL.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Maybe you can write a better song with all that
money you got.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, another song, because we only got this one?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Right?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Does he have other songs?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I want about Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah, because Joe.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Is this one or LaMelo? Which one? Or li Angelo better?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get
like play both for Petros and see what he thinks.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
But I think he's gonna goell ball, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Think that you think so? I mean, that's his intro song.
He's tired of it though, little you should do perfect timing,
all right.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
So Joe Burrow's back.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
The Cincinnati Bengals are taking on the Baltimore Ravens that
may or may not be part of our picks against
the spread coming up next hour on the show. And
so you know, the there is some optimism there with
Burrow back that that he's been a full participant and
he's gonna go ahead and try and give it a go.
(29:20):
And here's my question. If he goes out there and
they do what I think a lot of people expect
them to do and lose, then we're just gonna just
gonna keep on keeping on, just keep keep rolling him
out there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know
where people are going with this. I love the fact
that he's not gonna sit. He's you know, gonna play
if he's healthy enough to play, as you should. And
it would first off, it be tough for Zach Tiller
to watch his team out there not having their starter play.
If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his
(29:54):
demise as a head coach. But also for the fans,
you know, I think there's a real element of man
these fans by season tickets to see Joe Burrow play
in large part the rest of the team too, but
let's not be ignorant to it. They want to see
Joe Burrow, to Jamar Chase and t Higgins and they
want to watch that, you know, continue throughout the rest
of the season if he's healthy enough to go. So
(30:15):
I think if you're going to play the conspiracy theory
of why you'd sit him, obviously he's dealt with injuries,
so you don't want to have to have him suffer
something else that caused him to miss next year. But
there's also the thought of if you got three and
eight and this thing goes the right way for you,
maybe end up with a top five pick and you're
either drafting someone to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think
(30:35):
we all believe this is last year there. Yeah, so
you get an edge rusher potentially the best one coming
out of college, or you know, who knows whatever else
they need o line, you know, or think a trade back,
and then maybe a couple of players who end up
helping out this roster, in particular on defense that has
really really struggled. So there is some merit I think,
(30:56):
to like the thought of, well, it's not the worst
thing in the world. The Bengals finished with three or
four wins, but come on, man, like every fan out
there showering down skyline Chili with some greater's ice cream
after that, they were waiting to see Joe Burrow back
in that uniform.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
M Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a
little bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow,
like there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I
used to think it was just mcaulay cockin Cochin, but
it's kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this,
it's been a bad season for them. I think without
(31:34):
Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest.
He is clearly a difference maker. Uh and and so
getting him back I think does I guess serve the
purpose of the conversation that the North has been so
bad this year. I mean it's still it still does
(31:54):
maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the
season could end up being, you know, how can end
up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is
is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of
how he's paid, but I mean the way he plays
it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah,
(32:15):
I know, you guys, you know have said the defense
and you know that they're you can't outscore defense. That
can't stop an offense. I get that they're awful. They
aren't they aren't very good, and and Joe Burrow obviously
doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game.
But I do think there's a lot at stake. I
(32:36):
think there's a lot on the line. You know, they
they're paying out a lot of money to a lot
of these players that are on that offense side of
the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of
have justified things that way, you know, I think that
you have to show that you can be a better team,
even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just
(32:57):
got to show that your team is going in the
right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow
back out there on the field is probably the only
way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able
to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season, it.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Just feels like a wasted year.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
It feels like a great quarterback and great players on
offense who have had another year wasted. And it doesn't
feel like the defense is one player away. It feels
like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and
maybe this is you know, a thought in the back
of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are
a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that
(33:37):
Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could
have won and had a lead in against the Rams,
and look at that and go, that's the closest we're
going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows
close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling
to get anywhere close to what they did that year.
And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've
(34:00):
got Lamar Jackson, You've got It's just such a daunting
task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to
where they were that year when they went to the
Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels
like another year down the drain, another year where he's
banged up. Can you think of the last time like
he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment,
(34:22):
like something's popped up, like he missed, you know, Jake
Browning had to start a bunch of games because he
missed significant time.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Last year. They were a disaster and whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
You weren't complaining about that when brown came out no.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I mean, listen, I think it's important to show the
family like they do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I mean, family, why can't you do last year? Last
year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games.
He didn't miss any time, so that that would have
been last year they were referring to.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I mean, and then last year what happened. They started
off the season poorly, and then they were scrambling to
try and make up ground. They were losing games again
on defense. It just it feels like there's always something
with this team. There's always an issue. Either he's banged
up or they struggle early in the season, and Zach
Taylor says, we're going to play him in the in
the preseason this year. We want our start to look differently,
(35:12):
and it's like, Okay, they win the first couple of games,
hurts his foot, and then it's just a downward slide
after that. It just feels like there's something. I don't
know if it's snake bit, but there's something that goes
wrong with this franchise every single year. And it was
noisy there in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff
and the contracts getting done. It just feels like they
had their opportunity. And I wonder if there are people
(35:34):
and you know, it wasn't Prisco one of those guys
who said they're going to go to all these super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't know, said they were going to win multiple
super Bowls in ten years. I just say, we're basically
going to be on year seven, you know, for him to.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Be able to clam it ain't gonna happen. That ain't
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
He does sort of walk that back now, which is funny.
You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty
two season and there's many people at CBS will back
this up. On Prisco, he was already been just just
tell me I'm right, tell me all is right. Just
tell me all was right. We're like, Pete, they got
to the Super Bowl, they haven't won it. But he's like, no,
just tell me All was right. Like he wanted to
announce that he had predicted it right because he knew
(36:12):
they were going to lose in the Super Bowl and
he was gonna have to deal with the fallout. So
he was trying his best to make sure people would
contract be like nope, Like, yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right,
But that's Pete for you. You know.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back, because I
know it's hard to punish a guy verse quarters he
should be, but I mean they've missed the playoffs three
straight years and they're gonna miss this year.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
So that the three straight years they've.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Missed the playoffs. It just at some point, I know
they're patient. They gave Marvin Lewis h.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
So so Q said he should be back. Should he
be back Jonas?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But
if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you
know what, we need to see more from this team.
We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted
job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait,
I can work with Joe Burrow. That's my starting point.
(37:13):
I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
I would push back a little bit because I think
most coaches are taking jobs. Yes, they want to work
with Burrow. He's one of the best talents, no doubt
in the league. Jim Harball left to go to the
Chargers to work with Justin Herbert, and Justin Herbert is
one of the best talents in the league. The truth
in the matter is there's more than just the quarterback.
(37:37):
Like I would actually probably prioritize the ownership group. And
that's where, again not to take shots at the Bengals ownership.
You know they've done a good job with how much
money they put into it. They probably maximize more with
less than anyone else in the league. But there is
that always hanging over their head, and that is something
(37:57):
that like as much as attractive as it would be,
got to fix the defense. You have to rebuild up
that side of the ball. You have to figure out
what way to keep you know, Burrow healthy. Tough division
to plan, and you've got an ownership group that doesn't
want to spend a ton of money. Now they've done
so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase t Higgins,
but then you find, you know, the Trey Hendrickson deal
(38:18):
where they're basically going to have to kind of send
him on his way after this year. So I just
I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow, it's
without a doubt an attractive job, but I think you've
got to be careful too, of putting yourself in bed
with an organization that has tended to not want to
push the resources there or expand their scouting department to
be the same as other organizations out there that have
(38:39):
a very robust scouting department and all that goes along
with that. I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude,
they've got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like,
come on, like they literally you have to walk across
underneath the overpass and there's a bubble on the other side.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
It worse practice. Today, it's at the Bounce House. Temperatures
are in the thirties. We're gonna play in the Bouts
House today, all right. So let me ask you this
that you.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why can
do it though, that is what I would say, And
make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce,
you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it
on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food
in that facility into a winner, and it had to
turn your food into a winner as well. No matter
what day it is, no matter where you are, make
(39:25):
sure you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what
you're eating, add a little bit to it and that
Louisiana hot. Yeah, you will enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Make sure you buy you some both.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which
is a better job if the Bengals job opens up
Cincinnati or the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Giants, you have more talent and sensey, but you do
have the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership
situation in New York. And you know that New York
is MO devated to win as well. They they will,
(40:05):
they will do what they think it takes to to
build a winner. Now. I don't know what's happened as
of late. It could be the GM situation, Like I know,
it was much more it was much more stable under
(40:26):
the reign of Ernie A. Corsi and than he left
it to. I want to say, Reese, I believe I
think they they did a fine job. But I thought
there was a decline that started to take place. I
don't know that they've at any point really recovered from
that era of time and how they were bringing players
(40:47):
in or even you know, post like maybe you just
say post Tom Coughlin. You know, tenure there as well.
I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same, But
I think the opportunity to build it into a winner
is probably greater and better as an organization in New York.
(41:08):
But I don't know sincey that well, I just know
based off of what I listened to, you know, what
Q says about him. I mean, I have heard the
reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that plays
out in the media, but I mean, hey, I mean
giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know, and
I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we got
(41:29):
an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It sounded like,
you know, Mayor didn't want want to lose Saquon, but
he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions.
So I would say New York, but it seems like
since he has the better roster, at least has better
pieces to be able to build that. But some would
(41:52):
argue that, I don't know, they got a good defense.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, I would say ownership group Giants probably with the
amount of money they've spent and what they're with their
track record, you say, I late, they've been through a
lot of head coaches, but at the same time they're
also trying to get find the answer and to get
it right. But I think the more attractive job would
probably be Cincinnati, and just because Burrow, I mean, unless
like coach feels really like he's really tied into Jackson Dart,
(42:19):
I don't you know, I'm not. He's so unproven at
this point as far as what he is. I think
you'd rather feel safer going to the Bengals, who've also
been patient in the past with some of their head coaches,
which is why I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor.
But I think, you know, the Burrow attracting this of
that would outweigh not having really any ability to bring
(42:43):
in your guy. I mean, that's one of the thoughts
behind it, is you're coming in there taking over a
team that you've got a quarterback. He's gonna be going
into a second year. I mean, he's in his rookie
year now, but he's going to a second year. You've
got him for another at least two three years, so
you better feel really, really good about it. Otherwise it's
gonna be hard to move on from him. If you
(43:03):
don't feel like he's your guy. And that's how most
of those head coaching changes, you know work. You know,
they want to bring in someone who they feel like
is their guy or have their pick at quarterback if
they're gonna be in bed with them.
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