November 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick off Hour 2 by reacting to Bengals QB Joe Burrow’s return to the field this Thanksgiving and taking a look at potential coaching vacancies that could open up at the end of the season. Next, they roll out new editions of “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly,” along with “Quinn’s Wins” for Week 14. Tune in for all that and much more!EP: Shayan Moghangard
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up on this Wednesday edition. It is
getaway day, day before Thanksgiving, and we've got all sorts
of picks to get into. We've got our Quinn's wins
in college football, He's got seventeen picks. But what would
a seventeen leg parlay payout? Stick around and find out
(00:22):
it's in the millions. We're also going to have our
picks against the spread in the NFL for Week thirteen.
The old p Petros Papadakas is going to stop by.
We've got our midweek Awards, and we've got the usual
fun stuff in Shenanigans. It's all yours coming up next here,
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Brah?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What up sticks?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby Joker and
the Thief.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Trying to get you fired up.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No, I don't want to be fired up. I don't know.
I got a volleyball game today though, fired up for that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are you in state college or you in Oregon?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's all over the place. Man, This dude's just got
reckers of the place. I got Rutgers twice this week.
So I got Rutgers tonight, I got Rutgers Saturday, and
then all I have a Yeah, I got volleyball in
Maryland on Friday.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
So does the do you have Rutgers twice because of
the volleyball team?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Rutgers once because of volleyball, today, Rutgers twice Saturday because
of football.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
What's interesting about I'm noticing this trend is it almost
feels like the football team and the volleyball team like
move together.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, because Oregon Oregon played USC the same week. Yeah,
the football team, did I believe.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah. Yeah, there's been There's been another stop that we
were on too, and there was a volleyball game.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Again.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's that same team before that Saturday game. I can't
recall or remember who it was, but we were somewhere
else where. It was the exact same setup, which makes
it cool.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think, Yeah, it's pretty cool when you come back.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was interesting these days, man.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Never I mean like this is like, this is the
longest like road trip you've got on seeing the kidchen.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You know, it's interesting, like two weeks, just a little
I'll pull the curtain back a little bit, you know.
I've been working on something pretty cool with Schmiel Business
School at Penn State. And it's like on the final
you know, final like rundown, like like almost to the
finish line of completion of the whole you know, protocol
(02:44):
of everybody each dean and uh decision maker has to make.
So yeah, I've been busy on this end. So it's
been pretty cool. I'm excited to have this opportunity. Which,
by the way, I got a question for you guys.
All right, did you guys see did you guys see
the report on Shador Sanders where he did a deal
(03:09):
where if his content hits ten million views, it unlocks
a two million dollars something or other that he gets
paid for the content hitting that amount of views.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Have y'all seen that anywhere?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, So I was checking it out and I started
thinking to myself, if this is indeed true and you're
actually able to leverage your brand these days, because that
is a very real thing. Is viewership obviously, Like if
you look at how things are being monetized, a lot
(03:46):
of it has to do it in social media or
on blog and you know, podcast stuff like that. It's
the viewership, right, It's the amount of people that see it.
So I guess, apparently understanding how strong it of a
brand he's built in content, he did this type of
a distribution deal. Do you think that that kind of
(04:07):
complicates things?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Nil is one thing in college where you're taking your
name and likeness and you're building that name, image and likeness.
But in the league, the NFL, you build the name,
image and likeness off of the shield and everything else
is like kind of like a co star to the
shield and where to the point of where you sign
deals with the PA or whatever with your your likeness
(04:33):
being controlled by you know, the league, by the BA.
Do you think that changes if you're able to start
making your own deals and making your own money, how
does that look? Because I always felt like we were forced,
Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college.
(04:53):
I did not sign with you know, my license and agreement.
I didn't sign my likeness away. I wanted to control
my likeness and understand more about.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
How my name, image and likeness was being used.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So I had a whole thing with that, you know,
with my jerseys and cards and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
There was a whole thing. But what does that do
for athletes? Now?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You know, going into the league, you, if you're understanding,
you can use the league shield and use the league
as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that
alters the business of what the shield represent and represents
and how it's able to leverage the name, image and
likenesses of these players that are coming in that Oh oh,
(05:37):
oh oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm just curious. I mean, is it perfect timing?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders has now come
into the league and it's taking it over.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I mean, he it is a takeover. It's a smart
deal man that's taking over this show. I know that.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I don't think it's the first deal of type, maybe
the first that we're made aware of, because Shador and co.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Seem to always make you aware of everything.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I do think like the deal in theory is great
and it's probably what a lot of deals have been
done in the past. In regards to viewership on things right,
And that's typically how it works. All you're really doing
in social media is you're attributing however, many views like
you talked about to then say you should want to
be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's
(06:29):
ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Sure that brand can go through the player versus having
to go through the team, you know, or the league
to get it done.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, but there's.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Also there's also sponsors that aren't a part of Like
they're not an NFL sponsor, but they could do that.
I mean they could do it in college now, they
can do that in the NFL. They always could, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
If you're larger brands, what if larger brand and large.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
And larger brands would have to do so they can
select to do so, but it depends on what the
gl states. But there's still some one off campaigns of
sponsors who only have a single athlete in it. You know,
you don't always have to have a group of athletes
to be a part of that. But it all depends
on if he signed the GLA or not.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I just I'm curious as to how that n I
L I didn't I guess I never stopped to think
about how nil could impact the National Football League. You know,
but this is some way, this is a way that
it could possibly impact it.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
What do you what do you think is different that
he's doing that hasn't been done before.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Well, because you don't have to, I guess it's the
control of the likeness of the player, like no one's ever. Really,
I don't want to say no one's ever, But if
you think about it.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Guys, are the way you're outside of you know, you
just can't that your team or NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Logo, that's that's correct, But the usage of your your
likeness by the league or by the team like that's
now has to become a conversation because now I'm looking
at the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract,
you have to look at that contract and see what
that represents for how your likeness is being used. I
(08:13):
don't know that. Is there a ton of language and
I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language
in your player contract that talks about my usage of
your likeness.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
My experience in all of that was like, if your
likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you
were going to be you know, contacted about that there's
usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner.
It wasn't like they would just use it and you
wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be
a conversation there about that and how that.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Would work and if they if you wanted to be
a part of that or not.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And what's that is that in the content? Is that
contractually stay separate couries?
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Is that just a it's a separate contract.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So the team would have to bring a separate contract
altogether to you to represent a I will give you.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
An apples apples comparison. It's like right now with Scott
Shapiro emails you and says, we would like to do
this for FSR. And you know they're using your dam
in likeness to promote a product or a good that
we do on the show, and you know it's within
your contract.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Right. So there's certain elements of it, whether maybe.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Additional conversation or opportunity, and there's certain elements that you're
probably not receiving all of it, right m.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
M. I just I find it to be interesting because
if you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness,
where does that where does that line start? You know,
where does it begin? Where does it end as to
how you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It may be.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how
it's how it is. I don't think any of it's changed.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I think what's more likely to change is there to
be more of a good blessing agreement at the college level.
But you know that's that's more likely to change when
they unionize and there becomes greater steps towards a professional
sport as opposed to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood
the college football realm change is not in NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Maybe you can write a better song with all that
money you got.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Well, another song, because we only got this one?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Does he have other songs?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
About Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, is this one? Or Lamello? Which one? Or li Angelot?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get like,
play both for Petros and see.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
What he thinks.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I think he's gonna go Jello ball, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think that's you think so, I mean, that's his
intro song.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's tired of it though it's a little bit should
do perfect timing, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So Joe Burrow's back, the Cincinnati Bengals are taken on
the Baltimore Ravens that may or may not be part
of our picks against the spread coming up next hour
on the show. And so you know, the there is
some optimism there with Burrow back that that he's been
(11:13):
a full participant and he's going to go ahead and
try and give it a go.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And here's my question.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
If he goes out there and they do what I
think a lot of people expect them to do and lose,
then we're just gonna just gonna keep on keeping on,
just keep keep rolling him out there.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know
where people are going with this. I love the fact
that he's not going to sit. He's you know, gonna
play if he's healthy enough to play.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
As you should.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it would first off, it be tough for Zach
Tiller to watch this team out there not having their
starter play.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his
demise as a head coach.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
But also for the fans, you know, I think there's
a real element of man these fans. By season tickets
to see Joe Burrow play in large part the rest
of the team him.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Too, but let's not be ignorant to it.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
They want to see Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase and
t Higgins, and they want to watch that, you know,
continue throughout the rest of the season if he's healthy
enough to go.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So I think if.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You're going to play the conspiracy theory of why you'd
sit him, Obviously he's dealt with injuries, so you don't
want to have to have him suffer something else that
caused him to miss next year. But there's also the
thought of if you got three and eight and this
thing goes the right way for you, maybe end up
with a top five pick and you're either drafting someone
to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think we all believe
(12:34):
this is last year there. Yeah, so you get an
edge rusher potentially the best one coming out of college,
or you know, who knows whatever else they need o
line well, you know, or they could trade back and
then maybe a couple of players who end up helping out.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
This roster, in particular on defense has really really struggled.
So there is some.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Narritive I think to like the thought of well, it's
not the worst thing of the world. The Bengals finished
with three or four wins, but come on, man, like
every fan out there showering down Skyline Chili with some
Greater's ice cream after that, they were waiting to see
Joe Burrow back in that uniform.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a little
bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow, like
there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I used
to think it was just Macaulay cockin Cochin, but it's
kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this,
it's been a bad season for them. I think without
(13:31):
Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest.
He is clearly a difference maker, uh and and so
getting him back I think does I guess serve the
purpose of the conversation that the North has been so
bad this year. I mean, it's still it still does
(13:51):
maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the
season could end up being, you know, how could end
up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is
is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of
how he's paid, but I mean, the way he plays
it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah,
(14:12):
I know, you guys, you know have said the defense
and you know that they're you can't outscore defense that
can't stop an offense.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I get that they're awful.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They aren't, they aren't very good, and Joe Burrow obviously
doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game.
But I do think there's a lot at stake. I
think there's a lot on the line. You know, they
they're paying out a lot of money to a lot
of these players that are on that offense side of
the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of
(14:44):
have justified things that way, you know, I think that
you have to show that you can be a better team,
even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just
got to show that your team is going in the
right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow
back out there on the field is probably the only
way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able
(15:08):
to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season,
it just feels like a wasted year.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It feels like a great quarterback and great players on
offense who have had another year wasted, and it doesn't
feel like the defense is one player away. It feels
like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and
maybe this is, you know, a thought in the back
of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are
a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that
(15:35):
Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could
have won and had a lead in against the Rams,
and look at that and go, that's the closest we're
going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows
close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling
to get anywhere close to what they did that year.
And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've
(15:57):
got Lamar Jackson, You've got it. Just such a daunting
task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to
where they were that year when they went to the
Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels
like another year down the drain, another year where he's
banged up. Can you think of the last time like
he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment,
(16:19):
like something's popped up, like he missed you know, Jake
Browning had to start a bunch of games because he
missed significant time. Last year, they were a disaster and
whenever you weren't complaining about that when Brownie came, no, I.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Mean, listen.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think it's important to show the family like they
do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I mean, family, why can't you pet last year? Last
year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games.
He didn't miss any time, so that that would have
been last year they were referring to. I mean, and
then last year what happened. They started off the season poorly,
and then they were scrambling to try and make up ground.
They were losing games again on defense. It just it
(16:56):
feels like there's always something with this team. There's always
an issue. Either he's banged up or they struggle early
in the season. And Zach Taylor says, we're going to
play him in the in the preseason this year, we
want our start to look differently, and it's like, Okay,
they win the first couple of games, hurts his foot
and then it's just a downward slide after that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It just feels like there's something. I don't know if
it's snake bit, but there's something that goes wrong with
this franchise every single year. And it was noisy there
in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff and the
contracts getting done. It just feels like they had their opportunity.
And I wonder if there are people and you know,
it wasn't Prisco one of those guys who said they're
gonna go to all these super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I don't know, said they were gonna win multiple super
Bowls in ten years. I'd just say, we're basically going
to be on year seven, you know, for him to
be able.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To clim it ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
He does sort of walked that back now, which is funny.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty
two season and there's many people at CBS will back
this up on Prisco, he was already been just tell
me I'm right, tell me All's right, Just tell me all.
We're like, Pete, they got to the Super Bowl, they
haven't won it. But he's like, no, just tell me
All was right. Like he wanted to announce that he
had predicted it right, because he knew they were going
(18:10):
to lose in the.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Super Bowl, then he was gonna have to deal with
the fallout.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So he was trying his best to make sure people
would contract be like nope, Like yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But that's Pete for you, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Because I know it's hard to punish a guy verse
quarters he should be, but I mean they've missed the
playoffs three straight years and they're going to miss this year,
so that three straight years they've missed the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It just at some point, I know they're patient. They
gave Marvin.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Lewis hit so Q said he should be back. Should
he be back? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But
if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you
know what, we need to see more from this team.
We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted
job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait,
I can work with Joe Burrow like that's my starting point.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I would push back a little bit because I think
most coaches are taking jobs.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yes, they want to work with Burrow. He's one of
the best talents, no doubt in the league. Jim Harball left.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
To go to the Chargers to work with Justin Herbert,
and Justin Herbert is one of the best talents in
the league. The truth in the matter is there's more
than just the quarterback. Like I would actually probably prioritize
the ownership group. And that's where, again not to take
shots at the Bengals ownership. You know, they've done a
good job with how much money they put into it.
(19:45):
They probably maximize more with less than anyone else in
the league. But there is that always hanging over their head,
and that is something that like as much as attractive
as it would be, you got to fix the defense,
you build up that side of the ball. You have
to figure out what way to keep you know, borrow healthy,
tough division to plan, and you've got an ownership group
(20:06):
that doesn't want to spend a ton of money. Now
they've done so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase
t Higgins, but then you find, you know, the Trey
Hendrickson deal where they're basically going to have to kind
of send him on his way after this year. So
I just I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow,
it's without a doubt an attractive job.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But if you've got to be.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Careful too, of putting yourself in bed with an organization
that has tended to not want to push the resources
there or expand their scouting department to be the same
as other organizations out there that have a very robust
scouting department and all that goes along with that. So
I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude, they've
got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like, come on,
(20:46):
like they literally you have to walk across underneath the
overpass and there's a bubble on the other side.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It worse practice today it's at the bounce house. Temperatures
are in the thirties. We're going to play in the
bounce houses today, all right. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
They should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why
can do it though, that is what I would say,
And make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce,
you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it
on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food
in that facility into a winner and had to turn
your food into a winner as well. No matter what
day it is, no matter where you are, make sure
(21:22):
you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what you're eating.
Add a little bit to it and that Louisiana hot. Yeah,
you will enjoy it. Make sure you balue some both.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which
is a better job if the Bengals job opens up
Cincinnati or the Giants.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You have more talent and sensey, but you do have
the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership situation
in New York. And you know that New York is
motivated to win as well. They will, They will do
(22:04):
what they think it takes to to build a winner.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I don't know what's happened as of late. It could
be the GM situation. Like I know, it was much more.
It was much more stable under the reign of Ernie A.
Corsi and than he left it to. I want to say, Reese,
I believe I think they they did a fine job,
(22:31):
but I thought there was a decline that started to
take place.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
They've at any point really recovered from that era of
time and how they were bringing players in or even
you know, Post like maybe you just say post Tom Coughlin,
you know tenure there as well.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
But I think the opportunity to build it into a
winner is probably greater and better as an organization in
New York. But I don't know sincey that well, I
just know based off of what I listened to, you know,
what Q says about him. I mean, I have heard
the reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that
(23:16):
plays out in the media, but I mean, hey, I
mean giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know,
and I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we
got an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It
sounded like, you know, Mare didn't want want to lose Saquon,
but he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions.
(23:39):
So I would say New York, but it seems like
since he has the better roster at least has better
pieces to be able to build that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But some would argue that, I don't know, they got
good defense.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, I would say ownership group giants probably with what
the amount of money they've spent and what.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
They're with their track record, you say, have late.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They've been through a lot of head coaches, but at
the same time they're also trying to get find the
answer and to get it right. But I think the
more attractive job would probably be Cincinnati, and just because
a Burrow, I mean, unless like coach feels really like
he's really tied into Jackson Dart, I don't you know,
I'm not. He's so unproven at this point as far
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as what he is. I think you'd rather feel safer
going to the Bengals, who've also been patient in the
past with some of their head coaches, which is why
I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor. But I think,
you know, the Burrow attracting this of that would outweigh
not having really any ability to bring in your guy.
I mean, that's one of the thoughts behind it is
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you're coming in there taking over a team that you've
got a quarterback he's gonna be going into a second year.
I mean in his rookie year now, but he's going
to a second year. You've got him for another.
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Speaker 5 (24:55):
So you better feel really, really good about it, otherwise
it's gonna be hard to move on from him. And
if you don't feel like he's your guy. And that's
how most of those head coaching changes, you know work.
You know, they want to bring in someone who they
feel like is their guy or have their pick at
quarterback if they're gonna be in bed with them.
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Speaker 1 (28:23):
But right now it is time. Yeah, right, yes, yes,
all right.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Last weekend there's a little recap for you.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Win eleven and four that was big for us overall,
getting closer to back to five hundred forty one forty
four and three.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
A lot of.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Games to pick from this week. Let's get it started,
all right, Friday Slate. We got to pick some earlier
games with the holiday, obviously, there's more games on Friday
spread out over the course into the weekend. We start
off with Air Force at Colorado State. The over under
set at forty five and a half. I like the
over in this case Air Force. They could be explosive,
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especially when they hit their shot plays and Coloriado State's
defensive struggled to get off the field, which creates a
good script for Air Forces drives. Plus the RAMS should
be able to take advantage of air Force secondary they
struggle this year. Take the over at forty five and
a half air Force at Colorado State. Next up Temple
at North Texas again over of sixty five and a half.
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North Texas is one of the top tier offenses, and
they're averaging about somewhere the forties. I think they can
put up fifty on Temple, and even though Temple's offense
has been competent, it's not great. Both teams combined, those
should be able to hit the over of that sixty
five and a half number. Next up, San Diego State
at New Mexico. New Mexico's one of the tougher outs
this season. Their defense has been a bit of a liability,
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but San Diego State's offense has been inconsistent this year,
which means I think the Lobos not only are going
to be able to cover the one and a half,
but should be able to win this one outright.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
So take in New.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Mexico plus one and a half taken on San Diego State.
Next up the Boise State minus three and a half.
They're headed to Utah State. Look, I feel like if
you look at the Boise State edge on this thing,
they should be able to take care of business versus
USA State control the tempo of the game, and so
I'd like Boise to win this one. Utah State's kind
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of a boomer bust team. I think this is a
bust for them, So lay the three and a half
with Boise on the road. ECU at FAU. The total
was sitting at sixty six and a half. I like
the under on this one. Neither offense has been really
explosive this year. They've kind of been bogged down by
penalties installed in the red zone. So you know, somewhere
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under that sixty six and a half number to me
looks good for both these teams, so again the under there.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Indiana at Purdue.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Indiana has been dominant in so far this season, but
you know, and particularly the margin against weaker teams like
Purdue so far. But I think this is more about
what they've got coming up next week in conference championship week.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I think Indiana will be able to take care of
business when this game comfortably.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
But at twenty eight and a half with the hook there,
I like Purdue and the points. As I would imagine
Kurt Signetti's thinking, maybe want to rest some guys too,
if we get up too much of this game, allow
some of the backups to play, get them ready for
Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
In two weeks.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Another one Arizona at Arizona State. The over unders said
at forty eight and a half. I love the over
of this one. Arizona's offense is usually you know, pushes
the tempo a bit more, and ASU's defense has leaked
some explosive plays like the sun Devils can throw enough
to punish that Wildcats attack. So I think somewhere over
that forty eight and a half is we're going to
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end up for that one. Next up, you saw at
Kansas Utah coming up that great comeback win versus Kansas
State last week. I think they struggle a bit with
this Kansas Jayhawk team. Then the line is set at
eleven and a half. I like the points here. Take
the eleven and a half with Kansas Utah is physical,
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but they can get stuck sometimes if their inability to
do too much. Devin dan Pierre had to put them
on their back last week. This Jayhawks team I think
could hang in there without eleven and a half spread.
Next up, Kent State at Northern Illinois. Northern Illinois is
laying four and a half here at home. Northern Illinois
has the superior run game and trench play, and given
the time of wather and what the weather should look
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like for this matchup, I love Northern Illinois laying the
four and a half points here to outright beat Kent
State cover that number. Moving on, Louisiana Monroe at Louisiana.
Louisiana's laying nine and a half points here. Look, Louisiana's
got the better, better roster, they're more consistent rivalry spot
here too.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
I just I like Louisiana in this spot.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
I think they'll be able to take advantage of them
some mismatches that they've got latethan nine and a half
points here. Next up, last one of the Friday slate
and Maryland plus four at Michigan State up in East Lansing.
Whether it could be a factor here, but Maryland's game
has kind of been that high ceiling something that Michigan
State is unable to find an uneven offense they've had
this year. The one concern is Maryland's rush defense. They
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have struggled. Whether it should be bad. I think they
step up for this one could be a tight game,
but I do think Maryland can cover the plus four
here on the road Saturday, Toledo at Central Michigan over
under set a forty four and a half. I love
the over of this one between these two teams. Toledo's
offense as usually very efficient, Central Michigan's defense has been vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
To some big plays too, So.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
If Central Michigan can contribute a little bit, I do
think this one creeps over that forty four and a
half despite some of the weather in the air for Saturday,
at least projected weather. Next up ECU at FAU. I'm
trying to think we've already done that one. I one
Miami and Pitts the next one. Sorry, Miami headed to Pittsburgh.
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We saw the big win by pitt last week to
put now in the ACC conversation. In the race, Miami's
in it too. The winner of this one still needs
some help. The play I like in this one is
the over of fifty and a half. If you're Miami
on the outside looking at playing that aec championship game,
if you do get up, you're gonna have to win big,
and we know that they can do that. Pittsburgh can
put up some points as well. So as much as
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I look up these old Pitt games with Pat and
Arduzi being defensive in nature, I think this is one
that has the chance of going over that number at
fifty and a half. So play that. Next up wake
Forest at Duke Duke Lane one and a half. Duke's
still in the conversation for the ACC as well. It's
a must win for them. I think Duke's got the
more reliable defense, obviously higher end quarterback as well. I
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think they can cover that number at home easily, even
though wake Forest has had a pretty solid season. Next
up Missoo Lane two and a half on the road
down in Failed vill versus Arkansas. Missouri's offense has been
an incredible especially with the mod hardy running the football
and Bo Perbula coming back to has been able to
help them. So I'd like Missoo here on the road
versus team that you know, to be quite honest, doesn't
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really much postseason aspirations here. Miszoo kind of on the
outside looking in that regard, but still has the opportunity
to cover what should be an easy number on the road.
Next up unlv Lands seven and a half at Nevada
Udo V's offense has been significantly ahead of where Nevada's
defense has.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Been this year.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
The Rebels, too, have been one of the better group
of six teams, so I love them laying seven and
a half on the road. And then finally Notre Dame
at Stanford. It's going to be late ten thirty Eastern
time on Saturday night. However, the over runners set at
fifty and a half. This thing is going to be
all Notre Dame, a little bit of Stanford. It's going
to be close. But I do think the fighting Irish,
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another team with no conference championship game to play in,
will put up a big number versus Stanford team that
is coming off one of its best wins last week
in the big game. Now they've got to turn on
and play Notre Dame on the best teams in the country.
Notre Dame will put up a big number. The over
of fifty and to a half in that one, and
that is Quinns wins for week four teams.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm talking about eleven, eleven and four last week on
a heater. So the E C U F A U
point total sixty six and a half. The only thing
I saw that may have changed was Louisiana Monroe and ull.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Is now eight and a half. So Louisian is an
eight point favorite. So there you go. Take that point.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I'll say, I'll take that point.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Now I'm going to build this parlay that I'm going
to build this parlay. What are your if you had
to guess, what do you think a one hundred dollars
payout on this parlay is going to be?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
As I as I this?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
You mean a one dollar bet on the pal of.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Bet or you can bet ten dollars millions? Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Million it has to it has to be over a million,
and then like one point five maybe two.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Yeah, it's eighteen games, right.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Because last week was just under one point six million
on the parlay we did crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
If they were to ever hit like, oh god, if
any of your you're like, if all of them were
to hit like you're four off.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Somebody probably did what you said last week. He did
four off.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They got clothes, they got real four off.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
So one gentleman actually tweeted at us he I think
picked thirteen of them.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Had gotten Miami at that.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
It ended up moving down to seventeen, not eighteen and
a half.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
He pushed that bet and then he lost one other
but other than that, he was right.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
There in it. He would one.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Because the other thing too is you know, maybe there's
people that listen to the podcast of the show and
by the time that goes out, some of these lines
could have changed. So you know, there's there's also that,
you know, when you're picking this far in advance, but
to go a lot.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
There's times when that that last final segment.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We used to do it at that wouldn't even go
out at all, depending on you know, the production.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
All that behind the scenes. It's been cleaned up though
in the past couple months.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Wow, all right, I mean, uh, you know, I think
we missed the weekend there on nobody's here to defend them,
so you know, it's what's the probably a.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Great week anyway, So what are you talking about?
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(39:18):
single one of your picks hits this weekend. You said
it was going to be one hundred dollars pays out.
What one point five million was the was the guest there?
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, try five point seven million.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Hell yeah, so one hundred dollars on a leg parlay
that are Brady Quinn's. Quinn's wins for the week in
college football will pay you out five point seven million.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That's crazy, man, I.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Mean one dollar will pay out fifty seven thousand.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
If you won, I'm splitting a million. Are you? Are you?
Are you doing it? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Are you doing this? When you hear these these things?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And then maybe adding your own little stink to it
when you do it.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
It's a little stank, no live. When we got the
first two last week on.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Friday, I was like, all right, we're on a little
roll here. Let's see what happens on Saturday. Nice damn
Miami almost lost sleep over it.
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And now it's time for this.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
All right, Shaye, we got to do this fast. Who's
got what? Lvar? You're the good?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
All right, let's go with my man Joe Burrow coming
back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's good. Also, stay in Ohio. We got sha Door Sanders.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
He's starting this week and we get to see him
against a team like the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, perfect timing, Baby.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Brady, you're the bad.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I'm gonna stay with the reaction to Shador Sanders starting
playing the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
It's like the guys a rookie. Can we let him play?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Can we not overreact about everything, whether you like him
or you don't like he's gonna throw picks. He's a rookie.
It happens. He's gonna throw touchdown passes. You know, in
some cases it's a screen not that difficult to do,
and it'll make some better throws better touchdown passes too.
On the good side, like, can we just not overreact
(41:35):
and get wild about all this? Can we just watch
him play as a quarterback and appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Jonas with the ugly I'm gonna go with the team.
The shud or Sanders beat and he didn't do necessarily
a whole lot. But the Las Vegas Raiders are maybe
the worst team in football. You can argue the Titans,
but I think people kind of expected the Titans to
be bad. I don't think anybody expected the Raiders to
be this bad. And poor Chip Kelly. He's got to
take his six million dollars a year and go back
(42:02):
to it the holidays.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
What a bummer.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Dang chip Ugly
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Brah?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
What up sticks?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby Joker and
the Thief.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Trying to get you fired up.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No, I don't want to be fired up. I don't know.
I got a volleyball game today though, fired up for that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Are you in state college or you in Oregon?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's all over the place. Man, This dude's just got
reckers of the place. I got Rutgers twice this week.
So I got Rutgers tonight, I got Rutgers Saturday, and
then all I have a Yeah, I got volleyball in
Maryland on Friday.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
So does the do you have Rutgers twice because of
the volleyball team?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Rutgers once because of volleyball, today, Rutgers twice Saturday because
of football.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
What's interesting about I'm noticing this trend is it almost
feels like the football team and the volleyball team like
move together.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yeah, because Oregon Oregon played USC the same week. Yeah,
the football team, did I believe.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah. Yeah, there's been There's been another stop that we
were on too, and there was a volleyball game.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Again.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's that same team before that Saturday game. I can't
recall or remember who it was, but we were somewhere
else where. It was the exact same setup, which makes
it cool.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think, Yeah, it's pretty cool when you come back.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It was interesting these days, man.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Never I mean like this is like, this is the
longest like road trip you've got on seeing the kidchen.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
You know, it's interesting, like two weeks, just a little
I'll pull the curtain back a little bit, you know.
I've been working on something pretty cool with Schmiel Business
School at Penn State. And it's like on the final
you know, final like rundown, like like almost to the
finish line of completion of the whole you know, protocol
(02:44):
of everybody each dean and uh decision maker has to make.
So yeah, I've been busy on this end. So it's
been pretty cool. I'm excited to have this opportunity. Which,
by the way, I got a question for you guys.
All right, did you guys see did you guys see
the report on Shador Sanders where he did a deal
(03:09):
where if his content hits ten million views, it unlocks
a two million dollars something or other that he gets
paid for the content hitting that amount of views.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Have y'all seen that anywhere?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, So I was checking it out and I started
thinking to myself, if this is indeed true and you're
actually able to leverage your brand these days, because that
is a very real thing. Is viewership obviously, Like if
you look at how things are being monetized, a lot
(03:46):
of it has to do it in social media or
on blog and you know, podcast stuff like that. It's
the viewership, right, It's the amount of people that see it.
So I guess, apparently understanding how strong it of a
brand he's built in content, he did this type of
a distribution deal. Do you think that that kind of
(04:07):
complicates things?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Nil is one thing in college where you're taking your
name and likeness and you're building that name, image and likeness.
But in the league, the NFL, you build the name,
image and likeness off of the shield and everything else
is like kind of like a co star to the
shield and where to the point of where you sign
deals with the PA or whatever with your your likeness
(04:33):
being controlled by you know, the league, by the BA.
Do you think that changes if you're able to start
making your own deals and making your own money, how
does that look? Because I always felt like we were forced,
Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college.
(04:53):
I did not sign with you know, my license and agreement.
I didn't sign my likeness away. I wanted to control
my likeness and understand more about.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
How my name, image and likeness was being used.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So I had a whole thing with that, you know,
with my jerseys and cards and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
There was a whole thing. But what does that do
for athletes? Now?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You know, going into the league, you, if you're understanding,
you can use the league shield and use the league
as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that
alters the business of what the shield represent and represents
and how it's able to leverage the name, image and
likenesses of these players that are coming in that Oh oh,
(05:37):
oh oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm just curious. I mean, is it perfect timing?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders has now come
into the league and it's taking it over.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I mean, he it is a takeover. It's a smart
deal man that's taking over this show. I know that.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I don't think it's the first deal of type, maybe
the first that we're made aware of, because Shador and co.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Seem to always make you aware of everything.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
I do think like the deal in theory is great
and it's probably what a lot of deals have been
done in the past. In regards to viewership on things right,
And that's typically how it works. All you're really doing
in social media is you're attributing however, many views like
you talked about to then say you should want to
be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's
(06:29):
ultimately what it's about.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Sure that brand can go through the player versus having
to go through the team, you know, or the league
to get it done.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Yeah, but there's.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Also there's also sponsors that aren't a part of Like
they're not an NFL sponsor, but they could do that.
I mean they could do it in college now, they
can do that in the NFL. They always could, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
If you're larger brands, what if larger brand and large.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
And larger brands would have to do so they can
select to do so, but it depends on what the
gl states. But there's still some one off campaigns of
sponsors who only have a single athlete in it. You know,
you don't always have to have a group of athletes
to be a part of that. But it all depends
on if he signed the GLA or not.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I just I'm curious as to how that n I
L I didn't I guess I never stopped to think
about how nil could impact the National Football League. You know,
but this is some way, this is a way that
it could possibly impact it.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
What do you what do you think is different that
he's doing that hasn't been done before.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Well, because you don't have to, I guess it's the
control of the likeness of the player, like no one's ever. Really,
I don't want to say no one's ever, But if
you think about it.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Guys, are the way you're outside of you know, you
just can't that your team or NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Logo, that's that's correct, But the usage of your your
likeness by the league or by the team like that's
now has to become a conversation because now I'm looking
at the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract,
you have to look at that contract and see what
that represents for how your likeness is being used. I
(08:13):
don't know that. Is there a ton of language and
I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language
in your player contract that talks about my usage of
your likeness.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
My experience in all of that was like, if your
likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you
were going to be you know, contacted about that there's
usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner.
It wasn't like they would just use it and you
wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be
a conversation there about that and how that.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Would work and if they if you wanted to be
a part of that or not.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And what's that is that in the content? Is that
contractually stay separate couries?
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Is that just a it's a separate contract.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So the team would have to bring a separate contract
altogether to you to represent a I will give you.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
An apples apples comparison. It's like right now with Scott
Shapiro emails you and says, we would like to do
this for FSR. And you know they're using your dam
in likeness to promote a product or a good that
we do on the show, and you know it's within
your contract.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Right. So there's certain elements of it, whether maybe.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Additional conversation or opportunity, and there's certain elements that you're
probably not receiving all of it, right m.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
M. I just I find it to be interesting because
if you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness,
where does that where does that line start? You know,
where does it begin? Where does it end as to
how you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It may be.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how
it's how it is. I don't think any of it's changed.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
I think what's more likely to change is there to
be more of a good blessing agreement at the college level.
But you know that's that's more likely to change when
they unionize and there becomes greater steps towards a professional
sport as opposed to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood
the college football realm change is not in NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Maybe you can write a better song with all that
money you got.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Well, another song, because we only got this one?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Does he have other songs?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
About Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, is this one? Or Lamello? Which one? Or li Angelot?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get like,
play both for Petros and see.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
What he thinks.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But I think he's gonna go Jello ball, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I think that's you think so, I mean, that's his
intro song.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's tired of it though it's a little bit should
do perfect timing, all right.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So Joe Burrow's back, the Cincinnati Bengals are taken on
the Baltimore Ravens that may or may not be part
of our picks against the spread coming up next hour
on the show. And so you know, the there is
some optimism there with Burrow back that that he's been
(11:13):
a full participant and he's going to go ahead and
try and give it a go.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And here's my question.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
If he goes out there and they do what I
think a lot of people expect them to do and lose,
then we're just gonna just gonna keep on keeping on,
just keep keep rolling him out there.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know
where people are going with this. I love the fact
that he's not going to sit. He's you know, gonna
play if he's healthy enough to play.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
As you should.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it would first off, it be tough for Zach
Tiller to watch this team out there not having their
starter play.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his
demise as a head coach.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
But also for the fans, you know, I think there's
a real element of man these fans. By season tickets
to see Joe Burrow play in large part the rest
of the team him.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Too, but let's not be ignorant to it.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
They want to see Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase and
t Higgins, and they want to watch that, you know,
continue throughout the rest of the season if he's healthy
enough to go.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So I think if.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You're going to play the conspiracy theory of why you'd
sit him, Obviously he's dealt with injuries, so you don't
want to have to have him suffer something else that
caused him to miss next year. But there's also the
thought of if you got three and eight and this
thing goes the right way for you, maybe end up
with a top five pick and you're either drafting someone
to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think we all believe
(12:34):
this is last year there. Yeah, so you get an
edge rusher potentially the best one coming out of college,
or you know, who knows whatever else they need o
line well, you know, or they could trade back and
then maybe a couple of players who end up helping out.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
This roster, in particular on defense has really really struggled.
So there is some.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Narritive I think to like the thought of well, it's
not the worst thing of the world. The Bengals finished
with three or four wins, but come on, man, like
every fan out there showering down Skyline Chili with some
Greater's ice cream after that, they were waiting to see
Joe Burrow back in that uniform.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a little
bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow, like
there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I used
to think it was just Macaulay cockin Cochin, but it's
kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this,
it's been a bad season for them. I think without
(13:31):
Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest.
He is clearly a difference maker, uh and and so
getting him back I think does I guess serve the
purpose of the conversation that the North has been so
bad this year. I mean, it's still it still does
(13:51):
maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the
season could end up being, you know, how could end
up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is
is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of
how he's paid, but I mean, the way he plays
it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah,
(14:12):
I know, you guys, you know have said the defense
and you know that they're you can't outscore defense that
can't stop an offense.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I get that they're awful.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They aren't, they aren't very good, and Joe Burrow obviously
doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game.
But I do think there's a lot at stake. I
think there's a lot on the line. You know, they
they're paying out a lot of money to a lot
of these players that are on that offense side of
the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of
(14:44):
have justified things that way, you know, I think that
you have to show that you can be a better team,
even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just
got to show that your team is going in the
right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow
back out there on the field is probably the only
way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able
(15:08):
to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season,
it just feels like a wasted year.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It feels like a great quarterback and great players on
offense who have had another year wasted, and it doesn't
feel like the defense is one player away. It feels
like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and
maybe this is, you know, a thought in the back
of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are
a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that
(15:35):
Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could
have won and had a lead in against the Rams,
and look at that and go, that's the closest we're
going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows
close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling
to get anywhere close to what they did that year.
And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've
(15:57):
got Lamar Jackson, You've got it. Just such a daunting
task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to
where they were that year when they went to the
Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels
like another year down the drain, another year where he's
banged up. Can you think of the last time like
he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment,
(16:19):
like something's popped up, like he missed you know, Jake
Browning had to start a bunch of games because he
missed significant time. Last year, they were a disaster and
whenever you weren't complaining about that when Brownie came, no, I.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Mean, listen.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think it's important to show the family like they
do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I mean, family, why can't you pet last year? Last
year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games.
He didn't miss any time, so that that would have
been last year they were referring to. I mean, and
then last year what happened. They started off the season poorly,
and then they were scrambling to try and make up ground.
They were losing games again on defense. It just it
(16:56):
feels like there's always something with this team. There's always
an issue. Either he's banged up or they struggle early
in the season. And Zach Taylor says, we're going to
play him in the in the preseason this year, we
want our start to look differently, and it's like, Okay,
they win the first couple of games, hurts his foot
and then it's just a downward slide after that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It just feels like there's something. I don't know if
it's snake bit, but there's something that goes wrong with
this franchise every single year. And it was noisy there
in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff and the
contracts getting done. It just feels like they had their opportunity.
And I wonder if there are people and you know,
it wasn't Prisco one of those guys who said they're
gonna go to all these super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I don't know, said they were gonna win multiple super
Bowls in ten years. I'd just say, we're basically going
to be on year seven, you know, for him to
be able.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To clim it ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
He does sort of walked that back now, which is funny.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty
two season and there's many people at CBS will back
this up on Prisco, he was already been just tell
me I'm right, tell me All's right, Just tell me all.
We're like, Pete, they got to the Super Bowl, they
haven't won it. But he's like, no, just tell me
All was right. Like he wanted to announce that he
had predicted it right, because he knew they were going
(18:10):
to lose in the.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Super Bowl, then he was gonna have to deal with
the fallout.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So he was trying his best to make sure people
would contract be like nope, Like yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But that's Pete for you, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Because I know it's hard to punish a guy verse
quarters he should be, but I mean they've missed the
playoffs three straight years and they're going to miss this year,
so that three straight years they've missed the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It just at some point, I know they're patient. They
gave Marvin.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Lewis hit so Q said he should be back. Should
he be back? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But
if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you
know what, we need to see more from this team.
We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted
job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait,
I can work with Joe Burrow like that's my starting point.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I would push back a little bit because I think
most coaches are taking jobs.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yes, they want to work with Burrow. He's one of
the best talents, no doubt in the league. Jim Harball left.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
To go to the Chargers to work with Justin Herbert,
and Justin Herbert is one of the best talents in
the league. The truth in the matter is there's more
than just the quarterback. Like I would actually probably prioritize
the ownership group. And that's where, again not to take
shots at the Bengals ownership. You know, they've done a
good job with how much money they put into it.
(19:45):
They probably maximize more with less than anyone else in
the league. But there is that always hanging over their head,
and that is something that like as much as attractive
as it would be, you got to fix the defense,
you build up that side of the ball. You have
to figure out what way to keep you know, borrow healthy,
tough division to plan, and you've got an ownership group
(20:06):
that doesn't want to spend a ton of money. Now
they've done so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase
t Higgins, but then you find, you know, the Trey
Hendrickson deal where they're basically going to have to kind
of send him on his way after this year. So
I just I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow,
it's without a doubt an attractive job.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But if you've got to be.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Careful too, of putting yourself in bed with an organization
that has tended to not want to push the resources
there or expand their scouting department to be the same
as other organizations out there that have a very robust
scouting department and all that goes along with that. So
I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude, they've
got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like, come on,
(20:46):
like they literally you have to walk across underneath the
overpass and there's a bubble on the other side.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It worse practice today it's at the bounce house. Temperatures
are in the thirties. We're going to play in the
bounce houses today, all right. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
They should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why
can do it though, that is what I would say,
And make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce,
you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it
on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food
in that facility into a winner and had to turn
your food into a winner as well. No matter what
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(21:22):
you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what you're eating.
Add a little bit to it and that Louisiana hot. Yeah,
you will enjoy it. Make sure you balue some both.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which
is a better job if the Bengals job opens up
Cincinnati or the Giants.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You have more talent and sensey, but you do have
the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership situation
in New York. And you know that New York is
motivated to win as well. They will, They will do
(22:04):
what they think it takes to to build a winner.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I don't know what's happened as of late. It could
be the GM situation. Like I know, it was much more.
It was much more stable under the reign of Ernie A.
Corsi and than he left it to. I want to say, Reese,
I believe I think they they did a fine job,
(22:31):
but I thought there was a decline that started to
take place.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
They've at any point really recovered from that era of
time and how they were bringing players in or even
you know, Post like maybe you just say post Tom Coughlin,
you know tenure there as well.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
But I think the opportunity to build it into a
winner is probably greater and better as an organization in
New York. But I don't know sincey that well, I
just know based off of what I listened to, you know,
what Q says about him. I mean, I have heard
the reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that
(23:16):
plays out in the media, but I mean, hey, I
mean giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know,
and I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we
got an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It
sounded like, you know, Mare didn't want want to lose Saquon,
but he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions.
(23:39):
So I would say New York, but it seems like
since he has the better roster at least has better
pieces to be able to build that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But some would argue that, I don't know, they got
good defense.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, I would say ownership group giants probably with what
the amount of money they've spent and what.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
They're with their track record, you say, have late.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They've been through a lot of head coaches, but at
the same time they're also trying to get find the
answer and to get it right. But I think the
more attractive job would probably be Cincinnati, and just because
a Burrow, I mean, unless like coach feels really like
he's really tied into Jackson Dart, I don't you know,
I'm not. He's so unproven at this point as far
(24:21):
as what he is. I think you'd rather feel safer
going to the Bengals, who've also been patient in the
past with some of their head coaches, which is why
I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor. But I think,
you know, the Burrow attracting this of that would outweigh
not having really any ability to bring in your guy.
I mean, that's one of the thoughts behind it is
(24:43):
you're coming in there taking over a team that you've
got a quarterback he's gonna be going into a second year.
I mean in his rookie year now, but he's going
to a second year. You've got him for another.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
At least two three years.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
So you better feel really, really good about it, otherwise
it's gonna be hard to move on from him. And
if you don't feel like he's your guy. And that's
how most of those head coaching changes, you know work.
You know, they want to bring in someone who they
feel like is their guy or have their pick at
quarterback if they're gonna be in bed with them.
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But right now it is time. Yeah, right, yes, yes,
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Speaker 6 (28:29):
Last weekend there's a little recap for you.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Win eleven and four that was big for us overall,
getting closer to back to five hundred forty one forty
four and three.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
A lot of.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Games to pick from this week. Let's get it started,
all right, Friday Slate. We got to pick some earlier
games with the holiday, obviously, there's more games on Friday
spread out over the course into the weekend. We start
off with Air Force at Colorado State. The over under
set at forty five and a half. I like the
over in this case Air Force. They could be explosive,
(29:00):
especially when they hit their shot plays and Coloriado State's
defensive struggled to get off the field, which creates a
good script for Air Forces drives. Plus the RAMS should
be able to take advantage of air Force secondary they
struggle this year. Take the over at forty five and
a half air Force at Colorado State. Next up Temple
at North Texas again over of sixty five and a half.
(29:24):
North Texas is one of the top tier offenses, and
they're averaging about somewhere the forties. I think they can
put up fifty on Temple, and even though Temple's offense
has been competent, it's not great. Both teams combined, those
should be able to hit the over of that sixty
five and a half number. Next up, San Diego State
at New Mexico. New Mexico's one of the tougher outs
this season. Their defense has been a bit of a liability,
(29:46):
but San Diego State's offense has been inconsistent this year,
which means I think the Lobos not only are going
to be able to cover the one and a half,
but should be able to win this one outright.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
So take in New.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Mexico plus one and a half taken on San Diego State.
Next up the Boise State minus three and a half.
They're headed to Utah State. Look, I feel like if
you look at the Boise State edge on this thing,
they should be able to take care of business versus
USA State control the tempo of the game, and so
I'd like Boise to win this one. Utah State's kind
(30:19):
of a boomer bust team. I think this is a
bust for them, So lay the three and a half
with Boise on the road. ECU at FAU. The total
was sitting at sixty six and a half. I like
the under on this one. Neither offense has been really
explosive this year. They've kind of been bogged down by
penalties installed in the red zone. So you know, somewhere
(30:40):
under that sixty six and a half number to me
looks good for both these teams, so again the under there.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Indiana at Purdue.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Indiana has been dominant in so far this season, but
you know, and particularly the margin against weaker teams like
Purdue so far. But I think this is more about
what they've got coming up next week in conference championship week.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I think Indiana will be able to take care of
business when this game comfortably.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
But at twenty eight and a half with the hook there,
I like Purdue and the points. As I would imagine
Kurt Signetti's thinking, maybe want to rest some guys too,
if we get up too much of this game, allow
some of the backups to play, get them ready for
Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
In two weeks.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Another one Arizona at Arizona State. The over unders said
at forty eight and a half. I love the over
of this one. Arizona's offense is usually you know, pushes
the tempo a bit more, and ASU's defense has leaked
some explosive plays like the sun Devils can throw enough
to punish that Wildcats attack. So I think somewhere over
that forty eight and a half is we're going to
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end up for that one. Next up, you saw at
Kansas Utah coming up that great comeback win versus Kansas
State last week. I think they struggle a bit with
this Kansas Jayhawk team. Then the line is set at
eleven and a half. I like the points here. Take
the eleven and a half with Kansas Utah is physical,
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but they can get stuck sometimes if their inability to
do too much. Devin dan Pierre had to put them
on their back last week. This Jayhawks team I think
could hang in there without eleven and a half spread.
Next up, Kent State at Northern Illinois. Northern Illinois is
laying four and a half here at home. Northern Illinois
has the superior run game and trench play, and given
the time of wather and what the weather should look
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like for this matchup, I love Northern Illinois laying the
four and a half points here to outright beat Kent
State cover that number. Moving on, Louisiana Monroe at Louisiana.
Louisiana's laying nine and a half points here. Look, Louisiana's
got the better, better roster, they're more consistent rivalry spot
here too.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
I just I like Louisiana in this spot.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
I think they'll be able to take advantage of them
some mismatches that they've got latethan nine and a half
points here. Next up, last one of the Friday slate
and Maryland plus four at Michigan State up in East Lansing.
Whether it could be a factor here, but Maryland's game
has kind of been that high ceiling something that Michigan
State is unable to find an uneven offense they've had
this year. The one concern is Maryland's rush defense. They
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have struggled. Whether it should be bad. I think they
step up for this one could be a tight game,
but I do think Maryland can cover the plus four
here on the road Saturday, Toledo at Central Michigan over
under set a forty four and a half. I love
the over of this one between these two teams. Toledo's
offense as usually very efficient, Central Michigan's defense has been vulnerable.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
To some big plays too, So.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
If Central Michigan can contribute a little bit, I do
think this one creeps over that forty four and a
half despite some of the weather in the air for Saturday,
at least projected weather. Next up ECU at FAU. I'm
trying to think we've already done that one. I one
Miami and Pitts the next one. Sorry, Miami headed to Pittsburgh.
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We saw the big win by pitt last week to
put now in the ACC conversation. In the race, Miami's
in it too. The winner of this one still needs
some help. The play I like in this one is
the over of fifty and a half. If you're Miami
on the outside looking at playing that aec championship game,
if you do get up, you're gonna have to win big,
and we know that they can do that. Pittsburgh can
put up some points as well. So as much as
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I look up these old Pitt games with Pat and
Arduzi being defensive in nature, I think this is one
that has the chance of going over that number at
fifty and a half. So play that. Next up wake
Forest at Duke Duke Lane one and a half. Duke's
still in the conversation for the ACC as well. It's
a must win for them. I think Duke's got the
more reliable defense, obviously higher end quarterback as well. I
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think they can cover that number at home easily, even
though wake Forest has had a pretty solid season. Next
up Missoo Lane two and a half on the road
down in Failed vill versus Arkansas. Missouri's offense has been
an incredible especially with the mod hardy running the football
and Bo Perbula coming back to has been able to
help them. So I'd like Missoo here on the road
versus team that you know, to be quite honest, doesn't
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really much postseason aspirations here. Miszoo kind of on the
outside looking in that regard, but still has the opportunity
to cover what should be an easy number on the road.
Next up unlv Lands seven and a half at Nevada
Udo V's offense has been significantly ahead of where Nevada's
defense has.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Been this year.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
The Rebels, too, have been one of the better group
of six teams, so I love them laying seven and
a half on the road. And then finally Notre Dame
at Stanford. It's going to be late ten thirty Eastern
time on Saturday night. However, the over runners set at
fifty and a half. This thing is going to be
all Notre Dame, a little bit of Stanford. It's going
to be close. But I do think the fighting Irish,
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another team with no conference championship game to play in,
will put up a big number versus Stanford team that
is coming off one of its best wins last week
in the big game. Now they've got to turn on
and play Notre Dame on the best teams in the country.
Notre Dame will put up a big number. The over
of fifty and to a half in that one, and
that is Quinns wins for week four teams.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm talking about eleven, eleven and four last week on
a heater. So the E C U F A U
point total sixty six and a half. The only thing
I saw that may have changed was Louisiana Monroe and ull.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Is now eight and a half. So Louisian is an
eight point favorite. So there you go. Take that point.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I'll say, I'll take that point.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Now I'm going to build this parlay that I'm going
to build this parlay. What are your if you had
to guess, what do you think a one hundred dollars
payout on this parlay is going to be?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
As I as I this?
Speaker 6 (36:42):
You mean a one dollar bet on the pal of.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Bet or you can bet ten dollars millions? Okay, all right, so.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Million it has to it has to be over a million,
and then like one point five maybe two.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Yeah, it's eighteen games, right.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Because last week was just under one point six million
on the parlay we did crazy.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
If they were to ever hit like, oh god, if
any of your you're like, if all of them were
to hit like you're four off.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Somebody probably did what you said last week. He did
four off.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
They got clothes, they got real four off.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
So one gentleman actually tweeted at us he I think
picked thirteen of them.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Had gotten Miami at that.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
It ended up moving down to seventeen, not eighteen and
a half.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
He pushed that bet and then he lost one other
but other than that, he was right.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
There in it. He would one.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Because the other thing too is you know, maybe there's
people that listen to the podcast of the show and
by the time that goes out, some of these lines
could have changed. So you know, there's there's also that,
you know, when you're picking this far in advance, but
to go a lot.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
There's times when that that last final segment.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We used to do it at that wouldn't even go
out at all, depending on you know, the production.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
All that behind the scenes. It's been cleaned up though
in the past couple months.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Wow, all right, I mean, uh, you know, I think
we missed the weekend there on nobody's here to defend them,
so you know, it's what's the probably a.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Great week anyway, So what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
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Speaker 7 (38:36):
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Speaker 1 (38:55):
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Speaker 2 (38:57):
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Pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours, Brady Quinn, I
have your answer for you, uh, the seventeen leg parlay
that are your Quinn's wins that you've made of every
(39:18):
single one of your picks hits this weekend. You said
it was going to be one hundred dollars pays out.
What one point five million was the was the guest there?
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, try five point seven million.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Hell yeah, so one hundred dollars on a leg parlay
that are Brady Quinn's. Quinn's wins for the week in
college football will pay you out five point seven million.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
That's crazy, man, I.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Mean one dollar will pay out fifty seven thousand.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
If you won, I'm splitting a million. Are you? Are you?
Are you doing it? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Are you doing this? When you hear these these things?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
And then maybe adding your own little stink to it
when you do it.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
It's a little stank, no live. When we got the
first two last week on.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Friday, I was like, all right, we're on a little
roll here. Let's see what happens on Saturday. Nice damn
Miami almost lost sleep over it.
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Speaker 1 (40:27):
And now it's time for this.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
All right, Shaye, we got to do this fast. Who's
got what? Lvar? You're the good?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
All right, let's go with my man Joe Burrow coming
back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's good. Also, stay in Ohio. We got sha Door Sanders.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
He's starting this week and we get to see him
against a team like the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, perfect timing, Baby.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Brady, you're the bad.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
I'm gonna stay with the reaction to Shador Sanders starting
playing the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
It's like the guys a rookie. Can we let him play?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Can we not overreact about everything, whether you like him
or you don't like he's gonna throw picks. He's a rookie.
It happens. He's gonna throw touchdown passes. You know, in
some cases it's a screen not that difficult to do,
and it'll make some better throws better touchdown passes too.
On the good side, like, can we just not overreact
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and get wild about all this? Can we just watch
him play as a quarterback and appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Jonas with the ugly I'm gonna go with the team.
The shud or Sanders beat and he didn't do necessarily
a whole lot. But the Las Vegas Raiders are maybe
the worst team in football. You can argue the Titans,
but I think people kind of expected the Titans to
be bad. I don't think anybody expected the Raiders to
be this bad. And poor Chip Kelly. He's got to
take his six million dollars a year and go back
(42:02):
to it the holidays.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
What a bummer.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Dang chip Ugly
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