November 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in for the guys as they talk about Frank Ragnow un-retiring and joining back up for the Lions and what that means for their playoffs aspirations, some questionable impersonations afoot, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh what is going on? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hope your day is off to a fantastic start. Hope
you eat lots of delicious food, enjoy some delicious.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ball if you will.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Triple Header looks to be succulent. As Jameis Winston said
earlier this week, we'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We got to close.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I normally don't promote what's happening at the end of
the show to begin the final hour, but here we are,
j Mart, how about this little thanksgiving vibe? What you
are thankful for and what you are not thankful for?
You know, you could go Sports World and you could go,
you know, off the beaten path if you would like.
You know, maybe you just feel like it's necessary to
(00:47):
say you're thankful for Mountain Dew at the end of
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna put words
in your mouth, but maybe you feel that.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We'll find out. I'll tell you what. We've got more
exercising to do, j Mart. We had our first two
choices in terms of who we think will eventually win
a national championship in college football. If you had two guesses,
who would be your top two picks. You went with Georgia,
Ohio State. I went Georgia, Notre Dame. We got to
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do the same exercise in the NFL here in a
couple of minutes, right, But there's one story I wanted
to hit on first with you. And it's funny, right,
because a lot of times we won't talk about these
stories that greatly impact wins and losses because it's just
it's not like a sexy story, if you will. It
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is Frank Ragnow. Yeah, the four time Pro Bowl center
of the Lions. He is coming out of retirement and
returning to the Lions. That is a huge deal because
Jared Goff. You've seen the stats, j Mart like Jared Goff.
His numbers when not pressured elite like outstanding. His numbers
(02:00):
when pressured, holy hell, like horror film, like, ah, you
can't run away from the chainsaw fast enough.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You know it's Halloween not Thanksgiving, man.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It really right, Yeah, it is the difference in his
numbers right there. But to get Frank Ragnow back and
to stabilize that interior offensive line and not let pressure,
you know, pressure up the middle with an immobile Jared
Goff is death and now you get Ragnow back, who
is magnificent. That's a big, big deal for the Lions
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right there.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I mean, that's gotta be just let's just keep the
holiday mochief going. That's an early Christmas present for Jared Goff.
That's a guy who needs him and a guy that
he trusts and a guy that he knows in Frank Ragnow.
And Ragnow said he's coming back because he just he
loves the game too much. It was only seven years
that he played in the career. In his career, he
he had dealt with a lot of injuries. This is
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a dude, I think we even talked about I think
you and I actually have even talked about this.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
But this man had a fractured threat.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I don't even want to like say that again. Yeah, right,
because it sounds so horrifying. He had a fractured throat.
Like he's he's dealt with injuries to say the least.
He had a peck injury and things like that. But
like he's also a warrior and known to be one.
Like he plays through a lot, but he's a vet,
he's a leader. He's somebody that like it's gonna raise
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the temperature in that locker room in a positive way,
Like it's kind of icy in there right now. This
is gonna bring it up nice room temperature. Things are
gonna feel a little bit more normal. It's gonna be
great for Jared Goff, but just an awesome story in general.
And look, Frank Ragnow is twenty nine. He's not like
coming back at forty five. Like, yes, it's a lot
of NFL years.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And he has taken a beating, but it's just kind of.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like it's a feel good story. He's still got time.
He decided he wanted to come back. He's welcome back
with open arms. The Lions have him for two years
contractually if they want him. So him coming back at
this point at a seven and four team, I mean,
he's coming back at a time where there's still very
much in the mix when it comes to potentially winning
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a championship, And maybe that plays a little bit into it.
If you're rag Now, you get a little deeper in
the season many maybe I wasn't done here after all.
And he's not coming back to a you know, one
in ten team or something like that. He's coming back
in a pretty good situation for him, certainly, but it's
a mutually beneficial choice as long as he's healthy enough
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and he's doing it for the right reasons. It's great
for the Lions, it's great for rag Noow and his
career where he is mentally. So it's just kind of
one of those kind of uniquely positive stories.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I guess that's the bigger picture too, is can
you see this sort of thing being more common in
the NFL where there was just a rumor and it
could be just a rumor. Literally last week where it
was like, hey, there are some whispers about Aaron Donald
coming back to the Rams, and you know who knows, man,
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that could be just complete hearsay. You know, you see
him at Pitt getting his number retired, and then he's
with the Rams for an event, and he's always gonna
be in good shape. I think, I think, like for life,
Aaron Donald will be in good shape. I can't imagine
that guy being fat and sluggish. The guy's just chiseled.
You know, he looks like he could step onto an
NFL field right now. I thought it would happen with Gronk.
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I really did. The first year that he retired. I
thought Gronk was gonna come back for the stretch run.
He was gonna be there for all seventeen games, but
I don't know, like mid November December, get a couple
of regular season games under his belt, and boom, there
he is for the playoffs. It's not gonna be just
like happening left and right. But do you think it's
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gonna happen a little bit more common?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Will you?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You will see a guy who might still be young,
who retired early, who all of a sudden comes out
of retirement and is there for the stretch run and
not the entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, is gonna become common?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Is it gonna become more common? Absolutely, because it's so
so rare in the first place. But I think the
biggest reason why you will see it happen more often
is because guys are making so much money so quickly
that they're looking at their quality of life and saying
that they can walk away from the game, and some
of them aren't looking at how they're wired like That
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was one of the things about when Tom Brady retired
the first time. I think the question that many of
us had, well, well, what is Tom Brady gonna do?
Because what is Tom Brady but football?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Right? Like, yeah, there's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Family, and I'm not trying to throw shite on that,
but like Tom Brady was football. That's what he ate
slept and breathed like all the time. So what is
he going to do when he doesn't have that. It's
why some people work, you know, until the day they
die at ninety, because they don't know what to do
with their time.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They have no idea what that's going to look like.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
So you leave because yeah, the run up to the
regular season and the practices during the week and stuff
are so brutal on you, and you're dealing with injuries
and you're waking up and all this kind of stuff.
But again, you get away from the game long enough
and you're watching it on a Saturday, on a Saturday
or a Sunday afternoon, and the itch is still there
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and you're twenty nine, like you are, Frank Ragnow, So
guys are retiring so early because they're looking at long
term health and they're looking at their bank accounts and saying, well,
I don't need to do this anymore. But I think
that what some of them are going to discover is, yeah,
but I want to do this more.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's the difference.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't need to, but I want to, and some
are gonna walk away and make really good decisions because look,
the longer you play the unfortunately, the greater the chance
that you're going to run into something rough when it
comes to your health, and that it's gonna affect you
down the road. But if you make that decision with
your family and I still want to play this game
because it's what I love to do, then it's hard
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to take somebody out of that when they're still at
an elite level. So again to your point, I don't
think that it will ever become like super common, but
it's gonna become much less like monumental as a storyline
just because it will almost inevitably happen more often because
guys are retiring earlier.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, it's funny because you go back. This is pretty
dated now, but remember when stray Hunt straighthan Michael Strahan,
he would basically like skip training camp, yep, but he
would be there for the whole.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Season when he really got up there in age.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's like that's different than this, you know, like Frank
ragnow being there for a handful of regular season games,
and then hopefully the playoff stretch for the Lions. That's
not like just skipping training camp. That's skipping training camp
in like the first like fourteen games or something like that.
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That's a lot different than just training camp. So I
think it's pretty interesting, like just being there for the
stretch run, and especially based on the position that you play.
Some of these positions. Man, we talk about football shape.
It's a real thing. You can't just come off the
couch and then you know, just play NFL middle linebacker
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and it's like you gotta ramp up. Man, you're playing
left tackle, you're playing center, you're playing edge rusher, you
know what I mean. Like, depending on the position that
you play, it's gonna be hard to just join a
team mid season or at the end of the season
for the stretch run.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But if anybody can do it, it's Frank rag Now.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I just think that's pretty interesting to see if this
could happen on a more you know, I don't even
want to say more consistent basis, because that sounds like
it's gonna happen yearly, you know, but more often than
it has. I could absolutely see that happening.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, And it's not a again. It's not a bad thing,
I think.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I think the only thing that you don't want to start
seeing is it happening multiple times to the same person.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Like it's very.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Easy when you're battered to walk away and say I
can't my body can't handle this anymore. Then you get
to let's look, it's November twenty seventh. You say, man,
you know, I'm feeling pretty good because you finally have
had time for your body to really recover because you
didn't have training camp, you didn't go through all of that.
Your body has literally been able to be at rest.
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Like I guess to whatever degree that you are not
exercising or whatever like that. Obviously you're doing some kind
of training in your own life to stay healthy, but
you finally are not putting your body through those.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Kind of paces again.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And you're feeling pretty good and you're watching that and
you say, I can still do this. The question becomes
when you come back and you do it for three
or four weeks and your body has that sticker shock again,
that thermal shock where it's like, oh, I forgot about this,
Then how do you feel about it? Because it can't
become an annual thing if you can back then come
on back, but the second time you go that probably
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needs to be the end, because it's like you're trying
to stop what your body is telling you, and that
that becomes a problem, and then you have some people
have to start saving you from yourself at that point.
But if right now comes back here at twenty nine
in place till he's thirty five, that's great.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean, if that's what he wants to do, that
that's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You just don't want it to become kind of a
revolving door of well, I'm actually feeling better than I thought.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Actually I'm still feeling better than I thought.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And then he keeps on doing it, and not that
I'm anticipating that's what's gonna happen, but that becomes kind
of the slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
All right, we got a lot more ball to get to.
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Speaker 2 (14:16):
Jane mart your top.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Two choices from the AFC to eventually win it all.
Your top two choices from the NFC to possibly win
it all this season. It is a tough, tough exercise
We'll get to that here in a few minutes, but
first I wanted to get this into the show. Joe
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Burrow back from injury, had the toe injury he suffered
very early in the season, what week two he went down,
hasn't been back until now. His team sucks. Their record
is brutal. Record is what three and eight and right
now they are twelfth in the pecking order in the AFC.
(14:59):
Right that's it's not a place you want to be
there looking up at the Dolphins, the Chiefs, who have
had their struggles this season. The Chiefs have three more
wins than the Bengals do right now, Right, it's not
a great place to be.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But Joe Burrow's coming back. And he was asked this week.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
By a reporter, Hey, when there's a lot of talk
about you're the franchise and maybe you shouldn't come back
and play and risk injury, what.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you think about that? And this is what Joe
Burrow had to say.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,
I'm healthy, but I don't think I don't think I
should go out there and play. That doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna live my
life and play this game scared of something happening, like, yeah,
something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's football.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Guys are gonna get hurt. Guys are gonna get concussions.
You're gonna break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense games.
That's part of this. And yeah, I've had injuries. There's
not a lot I can do about that. I worked
really hard to have that not happened. But what I
can do is when it does happen, I can control
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how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing
everything in my power to get back as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
That's what I did.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I love that Jason, and I would want Joe Burrow
to have that mentality like he just explained it. He's
not gonna be like, yeah, I'm healthy, but yeah, I'm
just gonna kind of sit out. This is a lost
season and I want to be healthy for next season.
I would want him to get back out there. I
would want him to be itching, to get out on
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the field and compete and do what he does. Players play.
And I actually want this from my organization too. I
get that the organization could look at this and say, yeah,
but what does it really accomplish. We're just risking further
injury or you suffer a significant injury and the next
season is in jeopardy. At least the start of it
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is like why for what? For a worst draft pick?
But the thing to me is, and I'm really curious
what you think about this. You don't just build through resting,
you know what I mean? Like this idea, I don't
know what it is, this fascination with I don't know,
just throwing players in mothballs and wrapping them in bubble wrap,
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where it's like only good can come from that, and I.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Just don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
There's a lot of bad that can come from just
resting and staying healthy. You're not building anything, You're not
out there with the rest of the team. What kind
of message does it send, like, yeah, I'm healthy now,
but I'm just gonna kind of sit out, or we
as an organization are just going to shut him down.
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But you guys are all full go, you know what
I mean? Like, what are you building exactly? Culture wise
and continuity wise, chemistry wise. Joe Burrows missed almost the
entire season and you're not gonna play him at all,
just because you're three and eight.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't buy that at all.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Where do you come out on this? Do you like
what the Bengals and Joe are doing here?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I do, because I think there are a lot more
examples of not of the bubble wrap mentality backfiring. Like
let's keep Zion Williamson in bubble wrap early on in
New Orleans that did not work out particularly well. Let's
keep Steven Strasburg in bubble wrap in Washington after we
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draft him that didn't either for the most part, Like
it hampers your career more than anything else, like there
was a tie.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And this, I think is why when you look at
the NBA load management thing.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
People really hate it, right because it seems to go
against the fiber of what you want an athlete to do,
which is you want him to view himself as you know,
somebody that is there to provide what you've paid for,
Like he's a superstar. I'm gonna take my family to
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see a game and I'm gonna see him play, and
if the team is not good this year, I still
get a chance to see this guy, as opposed to
he's gonna take the night off because it's it's not
really a big city doesn't really care about your town.
You know, just maybe maybe his knees not feel one
hundred percent, maybe it's ninety five. Like you never saw
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that kind of stuff in the NBA in the eighties.
It's just not a thing. It wasn't the mentality, and
so Burrow kind of has an old school mentality. I'm
worried about his health all the time because I think
that I think he's gonna battle injuries his whole career.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I just do.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think some guys are I'm not even calling injury
prone is something I don't like. But he's definitely somebody
that just he's found a way. Man like his body
has betrayed him a few times and he's been it's
been unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
It's been unlucky, and that sometimes happens.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
And I think it will continue to happen, but I
don't want And your culture point is even more important
because like Joe Burrow looks at his team and he says, guys,
I'm healthy. But look, I'm not calling you bums generally.
I'm just saying this year you played like bombs. So
next year we're gonna ride this thing. Out again, and
we're gonna take it to the Promised Land. But this year,
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y'all kind of on your own because there's no possible
way we can win. And I mean, let's look at
our future and buy our future. Just look at me.
I am our future. And so we're gonna worry about
next year. And so I'm gonna root you guys on
from the sidelines, but not gonna join you, because there's
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just no point in doing that to my body. For
you like you can't, that doesn't work. It just you
have to be all in or all out in this athlete.
I understand the business decisions and all this kind of stuff.
Spare me the changing landscape. Miss me with all of that,
because the truth of the matter is the guys that
are there to see Joe Burrow play, the ones that
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are in the seats, are working hard every day of
their lives for that opportunity, and Joe Burrow quite frankly
owes it to them, if you want to look at
it just from that perspective, but even past that, heels
it to the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And as somebody, I think more than anything.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You just hear right there. I love football I knew
what I signed up for. Yeah, I love this, I'm
good at it, I'm healthy, let's go. That's exactly the
mentality that I want my athlete to have.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, that's a great way to say it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And really we don't have a SoundBite of you know,
the load management athlete, no explaining the thought process.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
But I can tell you based on listening to it,
it probably sounds a lot like Kawhi Leonard's voice.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It might You're right, it's right, right, But imagine what
those sentences would sound like. Right, you just heard Joe
Burrow say what he said where I can't see myself
saying I'm healthy, but I'm not going to get out there.
I just I'm not wired that way. Imagine what the
load management SoundBite would be like. It'd be something like this,
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where it'd be like, well, you know, it's a it's
an eighty two game season. If I can take multiple
nights off and kind of like keep my body healthy
not only for the playoffs, but for.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
More years, I can earn more money.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And you just hear a bunch of I I me, me,
my my.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's like you remember Zion, You remember Zion saying like
Desion people were like, why is he not playing? And
he said something like I just gotta He's like, yeah,
I mean I'm feeling pretty good, but I just want
to start feeling like Zion again. He said something like that,
And it's just kind of like what what exactly does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Like what? What? What is our scale that we.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Are as fans or as media or as people to
consume this, Like what what Zion?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What exactly do you say you do here? Pal?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, No, it's the look man, the load management thing,
or the hey, I'm just gonna shut it down and
gear up for next year.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's all about you. That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You could try to spin it and be like, no,
it's it's still about the team.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It's a measured approach. No, no, No, it's about you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's about earning more money, playing more years, playing longer.
It's about you. That's what load management is about. Like
what Joe Burrows explaining is about more than just him.
That's about the team. That's about commitment to competing, to
being a professional, to try to be the face of
the franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
That's beyond him.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He was to get out there to be there for
his guys as well, and so I respect it man,
and I respect the Bengals allowing him to do it
because I think that's how you build. I don't think
that's said. He won't be in the playoffs this year. No,
he won't. He absolutely won't. And there are plenty of
That's why I find this so fascinating. There are plenty
of people that will hear us agreeing we're on the
same page, and they're.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Like, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What does it do? What does it accomplish? Exactly? I
just you can't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You go back to the remember the seven Giant and
they went on that run, the wild card run, and
they eventually beat the undefeated Patriots. They could have shut
it down the final game of the regular season. There
was nothing to gain in terms of playoff seating. Whether
they made the playoffs or not. They didn't move up
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or down. Nothing was gained in terms of that. They
only were like, quote unquote risking injury. But they went
out there at home and they tried to ruin the
Patriots perfect season, and they battled them and they only
lost by a field goal, and that was a big,
big deal for them. When they eventually met in the
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Super Bowl and Tom Coughlin was explaining that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
He was like, yeah, this hole.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, we're full go now, but now we're gonna shut
it down here.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But now we're full go again. He's like, that doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Work for me. You know.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's the truth with football, this idea of just shifting
gears and yeah, we're gonna throttle down to first gear
now the end of this like twenty TI twenty five
bangle season. But man, we're fifth gear come week one
next year. Man, baby, we're smoking out of the gates.
It's like, no, man, it doesn't work like that. You
gotta be grinding. I believe the whole time. Some people
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disagree with that, but I think football is a grinding sport.
You got to grind it out. If you don't embrace that, man,
you're gonna get swallowed up by the rest of the league.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah. No, I me think it's right.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I think that many cases, as a matter of fact,
when you overprotect, you actually make yourself more vulnerable. Yeah,
that's the other thing. Here's another pro wrestling analogy for you.
The times that guys get hurt the most are when
they're pulling their punches, not when they're making contact. When
guys are actually laying in their stuff, and it's what's
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called tight as opposed to being too loose and all
that kind of stuff. Like when you're throwing air punches
trying to kind of half speed it. That's when you
you know, throw a shoulder out or do something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Usually like yeah, you're gonna get a.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Black eye or whatever when you're making contact. But there's
something realistic there. As an athlete, you've trained your whole
life without load management, Like you've trained your entire life since.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You were a kid. You've been on the field.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Practice, practice, practice, practice, film room, all this other kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
There hasn't been.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
A whole lot of off seasons, There hasn't been a
lot of specialized training and all this other kind of
stuff that's been going on. Now you are telling your
body that you have gotten, you know, very familiar with
over time, that now we're going to start taking care
and for two days you're going to be off, and
then you're gonna be on for this and then you're
gonna be off for this month. But then you're gonna
come back and flip the switch and everything's going to change.
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Why then, should we be shocked when the body doesn't
know how to react anymore. Yeah, and you find yourself
more injured than you were before. Like when you try
to wrap yourself in bubble wrap, you can still fall
off a roof.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's right, that's well said.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'll add to it, maybe just like whip cream or
cherry on top. I'm not sure either. Maybe hopefully, But
that's what I've thought with the NBA for so long.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Just a quick point. I do want to make this
an NBA thing because this is a day of.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Ball, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But like I've always thought about, load management is sort
of like a treadmill. Like think of the regular season
as a treadmill, and we're not going on this steep
incline like it's the regular season. We're pacing ourselves a
little bit, right, it's not playoff intensity for eighty two games.
So the treadmills at a good speed and a very
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slight incline.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So if you're you're.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Playing game in game out right like slight incline, like
decent speed, you're gonna be in a better spot when
you ramp it up and all of a sudden, the
speed is faster, the incline is much higher, and it's
playoff time, baby.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It's like when you're.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Taking day after day off to try to stay healthier
and you're not conditioning your body for that grind, and
now you're going to try to just ramp it up
while taking all those nights off. I just don't think
it works as well as so many people think it does.
It's like there's so many people that think there's no
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downside to load management whatsoever. I just have never bought that.
You can't sell me on there's no downside. It's only
it's all good, all across the board. It's just not
it's silly.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And also just does it It doesn't breed I don't
think it breeds competitiveness in your mind, that's right.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Like I feel like to be a competitor, you can't
shut it off. Like to be a.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
True competitor at the elite level, you almost have.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
To be obsessive to that degree.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And I think that that's what you're getting from Burrow
and what he's saying there. And that's why, for example,
like a guy like a Tom Brady, that's why he
found such success because the competition couldn't shut off, Like
he didn't know how to shut it off. Michael Jordan
in the regular season. Couldn't shut it off guys like that. Like,
I think that's that's why when I hear Burrow say this,
I say, yeah, you know what, I'm still worried about
his health. I'm all, he's going to be worried about
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his health because it's just dogged him his whole career.
But at the same time, man, I want that to
be my quarterback, Like I want my quarterback to have
that mentality and go out there. I'd rather you ramp
it up and maybe get hurt and knock out a
couple of weeks here and there, as opposed to always
being up and down and your body you just never
being able to trust your body and your body not
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being able to trust you.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Okay, we've got more exercising to do. Right here is
a good segue. Right, We're just talking about pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Good none load management and embracing the line.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, let's okay. So we're looking at the NFL. So
let's go. Let's go AFC first. If I gave you
two stabs at figuring out who's coming out of the
AFC and who you're pinpointing to possibly win a championship
this season. Who's your first pick, who's your second pick?
If you get two shots at this.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
J Martin Man, I can't believe this, like because I
look at it and I want to make arguments.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's hard, is not so hard?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Bills in Chiefs man.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Bills in Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Honestly yes, like yes, I know the Bills are flawed
in terms of what they've done in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I said this before the year, I said it on
I said it after they lost their last game.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I don't care whether they I didn't care about their
regular season. They could go undefeated, wasn't gonna change my opinion.
They are made or broken by what they do in
January period doesn't matter. I don't care what their record
is now. I don't care that they've played up to
this team, down to this team, or whatever else. I'm
not getting caught up in it. If I said I
didn't care if they went undefeated, then I'm also not
gonna be you know, sky is falling Chicken little because
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they're you know, they've lost four games during the regular season.
I can't Josh Allen is still an alien, and I
know what they're capable of based on their talent. If
it all comes together for them, I see less flaws
in them than I do in some of the I
could poke holes in every roster.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And then when it comes to the Chiefs week to
week out.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
I said off the start of the show, I didn't
know what Chiefs team we were gonna get. But truth is,
I do know what Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have
done in the playoffs. I've seen it over and over
and over again. Outside of the Joe Burrow led Cincinnati team,
nobody's been able to do anything to that team in ages.
So why am I going to look at Baltimore the
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way they've played this year? Or I think the Patriots
are still a couple of years away, but they're certainly
building something really impressive down there. Anybody else Houston's offense, no,
I don't trust them. I'm a Denver Broncos fan. You
know this, Brian, but I don't trust our offense. I
don't trust bo Nicks in that scenario right now. And
the Chargers they still feel like the Chargers to me
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that they felt like for the last five years. So
if you ask me, I gotta go with the two
most obvious choices being the Bills and New Chiefs. Still,
even if I don't feel great about either one of.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Them, you know what, you might be right about the Patriots,
but I'm gonna go Patriots Chiefs. Those are my two
choices coming out of the AFC. The reason I love
the Patriots is because they're ten and two.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
They got a shot to be the one seed.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yes, the dude, if you're the one seed, you got
to win two games, two home games, and you're in
the ball. You're in the super Bowl. Baby. They they're
capable of doing it. I know a lot of people
it's very fashionable to oh, they beat this team. They've
got the first pick right now, they beat this day,
they have the second pick right now, this team has
a third pick. They beat all these bum teams. I'll
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tell you, they have beaten who aren't bum teams. They
beat the Bills on the road. They beat Tampa on
the road before Tampa's dropped a couple of games in
a row because they've been ravaged by injuries. Those are
two quality wins. You have a good defense, you have
a very good head coach, and you've got an MVP
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candidate as your quarterback. Like you got a lot to
work with right there. So I like the Patriots quite
a bit, and for all the reasons you mentioned With
the Chiefs, it's partially trust in them that they get
it going and partly a lack of trust with the
rest of the field. So I would go with Pats
Chiefs right there. How about the NFC? Who are your
top two choices to come out of the NFC?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Hard not to say the Rams right now? So I
think the Rams are probably number one.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
For me at this stage.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And look, I went Lions Ravens to open the season.
I think this rag now thing matters. I'm gonna stick
with Detroit being number two for me. So I got
Rams in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
There.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
There's just there's some other there's some things I don't
like about almost everybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That I could make an argument for right here.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, fair, that's exactly who I have. I think the
Rams are the real deal. They're very balanced man offense, defense,
top five in both. They're fantastic man, and I've got
the Lions. I think the Bears are total frauds man,
total frazy. They've beaten nobody. They've had five comeback wins
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when trailing like double digits in the fourth quar that
come on that's just not built to last whatsoever. And
who they've come back against, you know what I mean.
It's not like they're coming back against good teams. They're
coming back against bum teams. What happens when they get
down against good teams? Here, I don't buy the Bears
at all. So I think they're gonna slide and that
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gives the Lions opportunity to move up in the standings.
And I just think they're battle tested.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
That the road schedule this year was murderers row for
the Lions, and that can actually help them come playoff time.
Not a big Jared Goff guy, that's the drawback. But
maybe ragnow coming back, like you said, that can help
lessen some pressure, you know with pass rushes getting in
his face. And I can see the Lions being a
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very tough out come playoff time.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
How about that feels good to exercise a little bit here,
Hunt Jams.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It does very good, Yes it does, because we're going
to have to, you know, expand our belt size.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's absolutely right, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
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Speaker 2 (35:50):
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Speaker 3 (35:51):
We're in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, Jay Martin,
I thought it would be fun. Right, we're feeling fest
today on a Thanksgiving Thursday. What are you thankful for
in the sports world or beyond? What are you not
thankful for so I'll start us off here so there's
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plenty of time. I am thankful for the good impression
from our producer, Patty Sweeka of steven A.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I am probably more thankful for the hideous impression he
does of Colin Powhard.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
All right, are you buckled in? Are you ready for this?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've been waiting for this the whole show.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, Wait here we go now, Patty, Yes, hit
us with the stephen A. Just give a little taste,
all right, all.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Right, right, so this will be like steven A talking
to Lebron when they were having that beef about the
whole Bronnie thing, right, so like stop it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I just want you.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
Right now, stop it. I was having a conversation wait,
Lebron James, not as a basketball player, but as a
father who is very concerned about his son, Bronnie James
with the camera on me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
See now that that is really good. It's really good.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Now, Jason, with that in mind, how can you explain
how hideous this Colin coward impression is from Patty? You
take it away, Patty, let us let us hear it.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
Now you're seeing I'm with j J. Mart here and
Brian No, I'm calling coward, and we got J Mack
with the news, we got J Mart with just over
here too, and we got Brian No two pros and
a cup of No.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
That's what that's what the show is, right, Yeah, that
is indeed correct. That sounded like Ross Perrot.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
It does and you kept with a rhyme. I like that.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh man, it's I'm thankful for both.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I really am. Great job with Stephen a. Not not
great at all with thank you Coward, but very entertaining
both ways. All right, J Mart, anything on your list
and I you're thankful for or not thankful for?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Well man, thankful for football obviously, if we're just sticking
from the sports side, I'm thankful for, uh, just the
great slate of games that we're all gonna have and
some you know, we're gonna get some clarity here in
this next few days and that's gonna be nice. I'm
thankful for the I'm thankful this year. One other sports
thing I'll say is I'm thankful this year that I've
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discovered and just kind of become a.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Big F one fan. I've really enjoyed it all year.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
And we got two more races this season, and the
championship has gotten very interesting and just it wasn't because
the movie is because another friend of mine had jumped
into a years ago and for whatever reason, I said,
you know, I don't cover this, let me just watch it.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
And I started watching it just became something I loved.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
And you kind of had that same experience this summer
with the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
If I'm not the last two years, but I've been
all in with that frequently.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Good for you, better you than me. But yeah, yeah,
I would say those two are just kind of on
the on the sports side.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
And then certainly you know, my uh my beautiful wife
and two daughters and sharing another Thanksgiving with them today
and all made possible by a by a savior that
died so that I could live.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Honestly that that's.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That's my testimony, and that's what I'm gonna always be
most thankful for.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Very cool man Well said, that's awesome and it's funny.
I checked out the ticket prices for the F one
race here in Vegas, yeah, and I was like, holy yeah, hell,
like what the.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I got it? I want to get there, but yeah,
the money.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
If I just robbed the local Chase Bank. That wouldn't
be an I gotta rob free banks and down.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
My gosh, what is going on to night hotel in
Monaco just just two nights?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Is ten grand?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Wow? That's insane.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Man. Well, I'll tell you what I'm thankful for Jameis
Winston because he's so much man, he's adding so much
entertainment value, so fun. And he was asked about his uh,
his favorite thing Thanksgiving dish.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Just listen to this answer. Let it wash over you
favorite Thanksgiving dish?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Man. My wife, man, she makes some kale collar greens.
Some she got a little you know, her family from
New Orleans, so she she make a nice creole dressing.
It's unbelievable. And uh, one of her cousins and aunties
she always ship us some gumbo for us to start
off the day with some gumbo. So man, it's it's
a beautiful thing. Taysom Hill put me on this, on
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this turkey. I'm not a particular a ham person, but
Taysom Heill put me on this Uncle Ray's turkey. They
shipped this turkey right to Yo dough. You pop that
thing in the oven, and I'm talking of it is suckulent.
That thing is juicy. It is spicy. Oh my god,
it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
How great is that answer? It's not just the standard.
I like turkey, you know, a little deep fright turkey.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
I just love Jameis Winston generally, just like I even said,
I send this text to somebody on Sunday during the game.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I said, Man, this dude's so fun.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
His whole career. It's just a blast to watch. She
just looks like he loves life.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I'm also thankful for cam Ward's honesty, right the Titans
quarterback remember this earlier in the year.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, we're keeping a book right now, we ask. Yeah,
it's just the best line of the entire year. I
love this, so hilarious. This is so good. When was
the last time tennessee Warren? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's awesome. That's just tremendous right there, they were going
through it. They're actually improved.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They've played a little bit better lately, and but that's
just that's top chef. I'll tell you one thing I'm
not thankful for je mart I'm gonna sound a little
bit old, but I'm not thankful for constant Steph Curry's
shoe updates Okay, he's a shoe free agent. He left
under armor, and every day it's he's wearing Jordan's. Tonight,
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he's wearing some shocks. He's wearing some Halliburtons, he's wearing
some Travis Scott's. I don't care, Okay, Happy Thanksgiving,
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh what is going on? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hope your day is off to a fantastic start. Hope
you eat lots of delicious food, enjoy some delicious.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ball if you will.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Triple Header looks to be succulent. As Jameis Winston said
earlier this week, we'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We got to close.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I normally don't promote what's happening at the end of
the show to begin the final hour, but here we are,
j Mart, how about this little thanksgiving vibe? What you
are thankful for and what you are not thankful for?
You know, you could go Sports World and you could go,
you know, off the beaten path if you would like.
You know, maybe you just feel like it's necessary to
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say you're thankful for Mountain Dew at the end of
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna put words
in your mouth, but maybe you feel that.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We'll find out. I'll tell you what. We've got more
exercising to do, j Mart. We had our first two
choices in terms of who we think will eventually win
a national championship in college football. If you had two guesses,
who would be your top two picks. You went with Georgia,
Ohio State. I went Georgia, Notre Dame. We got to
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do the same exercise in the NFL here in a
couple of minutes, right, But there's one story I wanted
to hit on first with you. And it's funny, right,
because a lot of times we won't talk about these
stories that greatly impact wins and losses because it's just
it's not like a sexy story, if you will. It
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is Frank Ragnow. Yeah, the four time Pro Bowl center
of the Lions. He is coming out of retirement and
returning to the Lions. That is a huge deal because
Jared Goff. You've seen the stats, j Mart like Jared Goff.
His numbers when not pressured elite like outstanding. His numbers
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when pressured, holy hell, like horror film, like, ah, you
can't run away from the chainsaw fast enough.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
You know it's Halloween not Thanksgiving, man.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It really right, Yeah, it is the difference in his
numbers right there. But to get Frank Ragnow back and
to stabilize that interior offensive line and not let pressure,
you know, pressure up the middle with an immobile Jared
Goff is death and now you get Ragnow back, who
is magnificent. That's a big, big deal for the Lions
(02:30):
right there.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
It is.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
I mean, that's gotta be just let's just keep the
holiday mochief going. That's an early Christmas present for Jared Goff.
That's a guy who needs him and a guy that
he trusts and a guy that he knows in Frank Ragnow.
And Ragnow said he's coming back because he just he
loves the game too much. It was only seven years
that he played in the career. In his career, he
he had dealt with a lot of injuries. This is
(02:52):
a dude, I think we even talked about I think
you and I actually have even talked about this.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
But this man had a fractured threat.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I don't even want to like say that again. Yeah, right,
because it sounds so horrifying. He had a fractured throat.
Like he's he's dealt with injuries to say the least.
He had a peck injury and things like that. But
like he's also a warrior and known to be one.
Like he plays through a lot, but he's a vet,
he's a leader. He's somebody that like it's gonna raise
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the temperature in that locker room in a positive way,
Like it's kind of icy in there right now. This
is gonna bring it up nice room temperature. Things are
gonna feel a little bit more normal. It's gonna be
great for Jared Goff, but just an awesome story in general.
And look, Frank Ragnow is twenty nine. He's not like
coming back at forty five. Like, yes, it's a lot
of NFL years.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And he has taken a beating, but it's just kind of.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Like it's a feel good story. He's still got time.
He decided he wanted to come back. He's welcome back
with open arms. The Lions have him for two years
contractually if they want him. So him coming back at
this point at a seven and four team, I mean,
he's coming back at a time where there's still very
much in the mix when it comes to potentially winning
(04:08):
a championship, And maybe that plays a little bit into it.
If you're rag Now, you get a little deeper in
the season many maybe I wasn't done here after all.
And he's not coming back to a you know, one
in ten team or something like that. He's coming back
in a pretty good situation for him, certainly, but it's
a mutually beneficial choice as long as he's healthy enough
(04:30):
and he's doing it for the right reasons. It's great
for the Lions, it's great for rag Noow and his
career where he is mentally. So it's just kind of
one of those kind of uniquely positive stories.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And I guess that's the bigger picture too, is can
you see this sort of thing being more common in
the NFL where there was just a rumor and it
could be just a rumor. Literally last week where it
was like, hey, there are some whispers about Aaron Donald
coming back to the Rams, and you know who knows, man,
(05:02):
that could be just complete hearsay. You know, you see
him at Pitt getting his number retired, and then he's
with the Rams for an event, and he's always gonna
be in good shape. I think, I think, like for life,
Aaron Donald will be in good shape. I can't imagine
that guy being fat and sluggish. The guy's just chiseled.
You know, he looks like he could step onto an
NFL field right now. I thought it would happen with Gronk.
(05:26):
I really did. The first year that he retired. I
thought Gronk was gonna come back for the stretch run.
He was gonna be there for all seventeen games, but
I don't know, like mid November December, get a couple
of regular season games under his belt, and boom, there
he is for the playoffs. It's not gonna be just
like happening left and right. But do you think it's
(05:46):
gonna happen a little bit more common?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Will you?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You will see a guy who might still be young,
who retired early, who all of a sudden comes out
of retirement and is there for the stretch run and
not the entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, is gonna become common?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Is it gonna become more common? Absolutely, because it's so
so rare in the first place. But I think the
biggest reason why you will see it happen more often
is because guys are making so much money so quickly
that they're looking at their quality of life and saying
that they can walk away from the game, and some
of them aren't looking at how they're wired like That
(06:25):
was one of the things about when Tom Brady retired
the first time. I think the question that many of
us had, well, well, what is Tom Brady gonna do?
Because what is Tom Brady but football?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Right? Like, yeah, there's.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Family, and I'm not trying to throw shite on that,
but like Tom Brady was football. That's what he ate
slept and breathed like all the time. So what is
he going to do when he doesn't have that. It's
why some people work, you know, until the day they
die at ninety, because they don't know what to do
with their time.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They have no idea what that's going to look like.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
So you leave because yeah, the run up to the
regular season and the practices during the week and stuff
are so brutal on you, and you're dealing with injuries
and you're waking up and all this kind of stuff.
But again, you get away from the game long enough
and you're watching it on a Saturday, on a Saturday
or a Sunday afternoon, and the itch is still there
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and you're twenty nine, like you are, Frank Ragnow, So
guys are retiring so early because they're looking at long
term health and they're looking at their bank accounts and saying, well,
I don't need to do this anymore. But I think
that what some of them are going to discover is, yeah,
but I want to do this more.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's the difference.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't need to, but I want to, and some
are gonna walk away and make really good decisions because look,
the longer you play the unfortunately, the greater the chance
that you're going to run into something rough when it
comes to your health, and that it's gonna affect you
down the road. But if you make that decision with
your family and I still want to play this game
because it's what I love to do, then it's hard
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to take somebody out of that when they're still at
an elite level. So again to your point, I don't
think that it will ever become like super common, but
it's gonna become much less like monumental as a storyline
just because it will almost inevitably happen more often because
guys are retiring earlier.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, it's funny because you go back. This is pretty
dated now, but remember when stray Hunt straighthan Michael Strahan,
he would basically like skip training camp, yep, but he
would be there for the whole.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Season when he really got up there in age.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's like that's different than this, you know, like Frank
ragnow being there for a handful of regular season games,
and then hopefully the playoff stretch for the Lions. That's
not like just skipping training camp. That's skipping training camp
in like the first like fourteen games or something like that.
(08:59):
That's a lot different than just training camp. So I
think it's pretty interesting, like just being there for the
stretch run, and especially based on the position that you play.
Some of these positions. Man, we talk about football shape.
It's a real thing. You can't just come off the
couch and then you know, just play NFL middle linebacker
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and it's like you gotta ramp up. Man, you're playing
left tackle, you're playing center, you're playing edge rusher, you
know what I mean. Like, depending on the position that
you play, it's gonna be hard to just join a
team mid season or at the end of the season
for the stretch run.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But if anybody can do it, it's Frank rag Now.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I just think that's pretty interesting to see if this
could happen on a more you know, I don't even
want to say more consistent basis, because that sounds like
it's gonna happen yearly, you know, but more often than
it has. I could absolutely see that happening.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, And it's not a again. It's not a bad thing,
I think.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I think the only thing that you don't want to start
seeing is it happening multiple times to the same person.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Like it's very.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Easy when you're battered to walk away and say I
can't my body can't handle this anymore. Then you get
to let's look, it's November twenty seventh. You say, man,
you know, I'm feeling pretty good because you finally have
had time for your body to really recover because you
didn't have training camp, you didn't go through all of that.
Your body has literally been able to be at rest.
(10:27):
Like I guess to whatever degree that you are not
exercising or whatever like that. Obviously you're doing some kind
of training in your own life to stay healthy, but
you finally are not putting your body through those.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Kind of paces again.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And you're feeling pretty good and you're watching that and
you say, I can still do this. The question becomes
when you come back and you do it for three
or four weeks and your body has that sticker shock again,
that thermal shock where it's like, oh, I forgot about this,
Then how do you feel about it? Because it can't
become an annual thing if you can back then come
on back, but the second time you go that probably
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needs to be the end, because it's like you're trying
to stop what your body is telling you, and that
that becomes a problem, and then you have some people
have to start saving you from yourself at that point.
But if right now comes back here at twenty nine
in place till he's thirty five, that's great.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean, if that's what he wants to do, that
that's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
You just don't want it to become kind of a
revolving door of well, I'm actually feeling better than I thought.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Actually I'm still feeling better than I thought.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
And then he keeps on doing it, and not that
I'm anticipating that's what's gonna happen, but that becomes kind
of the slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
All right, we got a lot more ball to get to.
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Speaker 2 (14:16):
Jane mart your top.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Two choices from the AFC to eventually win it all.
Your top two choices from the NFC to possibly win
it all this season. It is a tough, tough exercise
We'll get to that here in a few minutes, but
first I wanted to get this into the show. Joe
(14:38):
Burrow back from injury, had the toe injury he suffered
very early in the season, what week two he went down,
hasn't been back until now. His team sucks. Their record
is brutal. Record is what three and eight and right
now they are twelfth in the pecking order in the AFC.
(14:59):
Right that's it's not a place you want to be
there looking up at the Dolphins, the Chiefs, who have
had their struggles this season. The Chiefs have three more
wins than the Bengals do right now, Right, it's not
a great place to be.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But Joe Burrow's coming back. And he was asked this week.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
By a reporter, Hey, when there's a lot of talk
about you're the franchise and maybe you shouldn't come back
and play and risk injury, what.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Do you think about that? And this is what Joe
Burrow had to say.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,
I'm healthy, but I don't think I don't think I
should go out there and play. That doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. I'm not gonna live my
life and play this game scared of something happening, like, yeah,
something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's football.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Guys are gonna get hurt. Guys are gonna get concussions.
You're gonna break bones, tear ligaments. It's a physical, intense games.
That's part of this. And yeah, I've had injuries. There's
not a lot I can do about that. I worked
really hard to have that not happened. But what I
can do is when it does happen, I can control
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how I'm attacking my rehab and attacking practice and doing
everything in my power to get back as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
That's what I did.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I love that Jason, and I would want Joe Burrow
to have that mentality like he just explained it. He's
not gonna be like, yeah, I'm healthy, but yeah, I'm
just gonna kind of sit out. This is a lost
season and I want to be healthy for next season.
I would want him to get back out there. I
would want him to be itching, to get out on
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the field and compete and do what he does. Players play.
And I actually want this from my organization too. I
get that the organization could look at this and say, yeah,
but what does it really accomplish. We're just risking further
injury or you suffer a significant injury and the next
season is in jeopardy. At least the start of it
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is like why for what? For a worst draft pick?
But the thing to me is, and I'm really curious
what you think about this. You don't just build through resting,
you know what I mean? Like this idea, I don't
know what it is, this fascination with I don't know,
just throwing players in mothballs and wrapping them in bubble wrap,
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where it's like only good can come from that, and I.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Just don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
There's a lot of bad that can come from just
resting and staying healthy. You're not building anything, You're not
out there with the rest of the team. What kind
of message does it send, like, yeah, I'm healthy now,
but I'm just gonna kind of sit out, or we
as an organization are just going to shut him down.
(17:41):
But you guys are all full go, you know what
I mean? Like, what are you building exactly? Culture wise
and continuity wise, chemistry wise. Joe Burrows missed almost the
entire season and you're not gonna play him at all,
just because you're three and eight.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't buy that at all.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Where do you come out on this? Do you like
what the Bengals and Joe are doing here?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I do, because I think there are a lot more
examples of not of the bubble wrap mentality backfiring. Like
let's keep Zion Williamson in bubble wrap early on in
New Orleans that did not work out particularly well. Let's
keep Steven Strasburg in bubble wrap in Washington after we
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draft him that didn't either for the most part, Like
it hampers your career more than anything else, like there
was a tie.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And this, I think is why when you look at
the NBA load management thing.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
People really hate it, right because it seems to go
against the fiber of what you want an athlete to do,
which is you want him to view himself as you know,
somebody that is there to provide what you've paid for,
Like he's a superstar. I'm gonna take my family to
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see a game and I'm gonna see him play, and
if the team is not good this year, I still
get a chance to see this guy, as opposed to
he's gonna take the night off because it's it's not
really a big city doesn't really care about your town.
You know, just maybe maybe his knees not feel one
hundred percent, maybe it's ninety five. Like you never saw
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that kind of stuff in the NBA in the eighties.
It's just not a thing. It wasn't the mentality, and
so Burrow kind of has an old school mentality. I'm
worried about his health all the time because I think
that I think he's gonna battle injuries his whole career.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I just do.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think some guys are I'm not even calling injury
prone is something I don't like. But he's definitely somebody
that just he's found a way. Man like his body
has betrayed him a few times and he's been it's
been unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
It's been unlucky, and that sometimes happens.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
And I think it will continue to happen, but I
don't want And your culture point is even more important
because like Joe Burrow looks at his team and he says, guys,
I'm healthy. But look, I'm not calling you bums generally.
I'm just saying this year you played like bombs. So
next year we're gonna ride this thing. Out again, and
we're gonna take it to the Promised Land. But this year,
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y'all kind of on your own because there's no possible
way we can win. And I mean, let's look at
our future and buy our future. Just look at me.
I am our future. And so we're gonna worry about
next year. And so I'm gonna root you guys on
from the sidelines, but not gonna join you, because there's
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just no point in doing that to my body. For
you like you can't, that doesn't work. It just you
have to be all in or all out in this athlete.
I understand the business decisions and all this kind of stuff.
Spare me the changing landscape. Miss me with all of that,
because the truth of the matter is the guys that
are there to see Joe Burrow play, the ones that
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are in the seats, are working hard every day of
their lives for that opportunity, and Joe Burrow quite frankly
owes it to them, if you want to look at
it just from that perspective, but even past that, heels
it to the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And as somebody, I think more than anything.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You just hear right there. I love football I knew
what I signed up for. Yeah, I love this, I'm
good at it, I'm healthy, let's go. That's exactly the
mentality that I want my athlete to have.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, that's a great way to say it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And really we don't have a SoundBite of you know,
the load management athlete, no explaining the thought process.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
But I can tell you based on listening to it,
it probably sounds a lot like Kawhi Leonard's voice.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
It might You're right, it's right, right, But imagine what
those sentences would sound like. Right, you just heard Joe
Burrow say what he said where I can't see myself
saying I'm healthy, but I'm not going to get out there.
I just I'm not wired that way. Imagine what the
load management SoundBite would be like. It'd be something like this,
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where it'd be like, well, you know, it's a it's
an eighty two game season. If I can take multiple
nights off and kind of like keep my body healthy
not only for the playoffs, but for.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
More years, I can earn more money.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And you just hear a bunch of I I me, me,
my my.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's like you remember Zion, You remember Zion saying like
Desion people were like, why is he not playing? And
he said something like I just gotta He's like, yeah,
I mean I'm feeling pretty good, but I just want
to start feeling like Zion again. He said something like that,
And it's just kind of like what what exactly does
that mean?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Like what? What? What is our scale that we.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Are as fans or as media or as people to
consume this, Like what what Zion?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What exactly do you say you do here? Pal?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, No, it's the look man, the load management thing,
or the hey, I'm just gonna shut it down and
gear up for next year.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
That's all about you. That's really what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You could try to spin it and be like, no,
it's it's still about the team.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
It's a measured approach. No, no, No, it's about you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It's about earning more money, playing more years, playing longer.
It's about you. That's what load management is about. Like
what Joe Burrows explaining is about more than just him.
That's about the team. That's about commitment to competing, to
being a professional, to try to be the face of
the franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
That's beyond him.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He was to get out there to be there for
his guys as well, and so I respect it man,
and I respect the Bengals allowing him to do it
because I think that's how you build. I don't think
that's said. He won't be in the playoffs this year. No,
he won't. He absolutely won't. And there are plenty of
That's why I find this so fascinating. There are plenty
of people that will hear us agreeing we're on the
same page, and they're.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Like, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What does it do? What does it accomplish? Exactly? I
just you can't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You go back to the remember the seven Giant and
they went on that run, the wild card run, and
they eventually beat the undefeated Patriots. They could have shut
it down the final game of the regular season. There
was nothing to gain in terms of playoff seating. Whether
they made the playoffs or not. They didn't move up
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or down. Nothing was gained in terms of that. They
only were like, quote unquote risking injury. But they went
out there at home and they tried to ruin the
Patriots perfect season, and they battled them and they only
lost by a field goal, and that was a big,
big deal for them. When they eventually met in the
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Super Bowl and Tom Coughlin was explaining that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
He was like, yeah, this hole.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, we're full go now, but now we're gonna shut
it down here.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But now we're full go again. He's like, that doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Work for me. You know.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's the truth with football, this idea of just shifting
gears and yeah, we're gonna throttle down to first gear
now the end of this like twenty TI twenty five
bangle season. But man, we're fifth gear come week one
next year. Man, baby, we're smoking out of the gates.
It's like, no, man, it doesn't work like that. You
gotta be grinding. I believe the whole time. Some people
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disagree with that, but I think football is a grinding sport.
You got to grind it out. If you don't embrace that, man,
you're gonna get swallowed up by the rest of the league.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah. No, I me think it's right.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I think that many cases, as a matter of fact,
when you overprotect, you actually make yourself more vulnerable. Yeah,
that's the other thing. Here's another pro wrestling analogy for you.
The times that guys get hurt the most are when
they're pulling their punches, not when they're making contact. When
guys are actually laying in their stuff, and it's what's
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called tight as opposed to being too loose and all
that kind of stuff. Like when you're throwing air punches
trying to kind of half speed it. That's when you
you know, throw a shoulder out or do something like that.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Usually like yeah, you're gonna get a.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Black eye or whatever when you're making contact. But there's
something realistic there. As an athlete, you've trained your whole
life without load management, Like you've trained your entire life since.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
You were a kid. You've been on the field.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Practice, practice, practice, practice, film room, all this other kind
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
There hasn't been.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
A whole lot of off seasons, There hasn't been a
lot of specialized training and all this other kind of
stuff that's been going on. Now you are telling your
body that you have gotten, you know, very familiar with
over time, that now we're going to start taking care
and for two days you're going to be off, and
then you're gonna be on for this and then you're
gonna be off for this month. But then you're gonna
come back and flip the switch and everything's going to change.
(26:40):
Why then, should we be shocked when the body doesn't
know how to react anymore. Yeah, and you find yourself
more injured than you were before. Like when you try
to wrap yourself in bubble wrap, you can still fall
off a roof.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's right, that's well said.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'll add to it, maybe just like whip cream or
cherry on top. I'm not sure either. Maybe hopefully, But
that's what I've thought with the NBA for so long.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Just a quick point. I do want to make this
an NBA thing because this is a day of.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Ball, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But like I've always thought about, load management is sort
of like a treadmill. Like think of the regular season
as a treadmill, and we're not going on this steep
incline like it's the regular season. We're pacing ourselves a
little bit, right, it's not playoff intensity for eighty two games.
So the treadmills at a good speed and a very
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slight incline.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So if you're you're.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Playing game in game out right like slight incline, like
decent speed, you're gonna be in a better spot when
you ramp it up and all of a sudden, the
speed is faster, the incline is much higher, and it's
playoff time, baby.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
It's like when you're.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Taking day after day off to try to stay healthier
and you're not conditioning your body for that grind, and
now you're going to try to just ramp it up
while taking all those nights off. I just don't think
it works as well as so many people think it does.
It's like there's so many people that think there's no
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downside to load management whatsoever. I just have never bought that.
You can't sell me on there's no downside. It's only
it's all good, all across the board. It's just not
it's silly.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
And also just does it It doesn't breed I don't
think it breeds competitiveness in your mind, that's right.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Like I feel like to be a competitor, you can't
shut it off. Like to be a.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
True competitor at the elite level, you almost have.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
To be obsessive to that degree.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And I think that that's what you're getting from Burrow
and what he's saying there. And that's why, for example,
like a guy like a Tom Brady, that's why he
found such success because the competition couldn't shut off, Like
he didn't know how to shut it off. Michael Jordan
in the regular season. Couldn't shut it off guys like that. Like,
I think that's that's why when I hear Burrow say this,
I say, yeah, you know what, I'm still worried about
his health. I'm all, he's going to be worried about
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his health because it's just dogged him his whole career.
But at the same time, man, I want that to
be my quarterback, Like I want my quarterback to have
that mentality and go out there. I'd rather you ramp
it up and maybe get hurt and knock out a
couple of weeks here and there, as opposed to always
being up and down and your body you just never
being able to trust your body and your body not
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being able to trust you.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Okay, we've got more exercising to do. Right here is
a good segue. Right, We're just talking about pretty.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Good none load management and embracing the line.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, let's okay. So we're looking at the NFL. So
let's go. Let's go AFC first. If I gave you
two stabs at figuring out who's coming out of the
AFC and who you're pinpointing to possibly win a championship
this season. Who's your first pick, who's your second pick?
If you get two shots at this.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
J Martin Man, I can't believe this, like because I
look at it and I want to make arguments.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's hard, is not so hard?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Bills in Chiefs man.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Bills in Chiefs?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Honestly yes, like yes, I know the Bills are flawed
in terms of what they've done in the regular season.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
I said this before the year, I said it on
I said it after they lost their last game.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I don't care whether they I didn't care about their
regular season. They could go undefeated, wasn't gonna change my opinion.
They are made or broken by what they do in
January period doesn't matter. I don't care what their record
is now. I don't care that they've played up to
this team, down to this team, or whatever else. I'm
not getting caught up in it. If I said I
didn't care if they went undefeated, then I'm also not
gonna be you know, sky is falling Chicken little because
(30:40):
they're you know, they've lost four games during the regular season.
I can't Josh Allen is still an alien, and I
know what they're capable of based on their talent. If
it all comes together for them, I see less flaws
in them than I do in some of the I
could poke holes in every roster.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
And then when it comes to the Chiefs week to
week out.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
I said off the start of the show, I didn't
know what Chiefs team we were gonna get. But truth is,
I do know what Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have
done in the playoffs. I've seen it over and over
and over again. Outside of the Joe Burrow led Cincinnati team,
nobody's been able to do anything to that team in ages.
So why am I going to look at Baltimore the
(31:19):
way they've played this year? Or I think the Patriots
are still a couple of years away, but they're certainly
building something really impressive down there. Anybody else Houston's offense, no,
I don't trust them. I'm a Denver Broncos fan. You
know this, Brian, but I don't trust our offense. I
don't trust bo Nicks in that scenario right now. And
the Chargers they still feel like the Chargers to me
(31:42):
that they felt like for the last five years. So
if you ask me, I gotta go with the two
most obvious choices being the Bills and New Chiefs. Still,
even if I don't feel great about either one of.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Them, you know what, you might be right about the Patriots,
but I'm gonna go Patriots Chiefs. Those are my two
choices coming out of the AFC. The reason I love
the Patriots is because they're ten and two.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
They got a shot to be the one seed.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yes, the dude, if you're the one seed, you got
to win two games, two home games, and you're in
the ball. You're in the super Bowl. Baby. They they're
capable of doing it. I know a lot of people
it's very fashionable to oh, they beat this team. They've
got the first pick right now, they beat this day,
they have the second pick right now, this team has
a third pick. They beat all these bum teams. I'll
(32:28):
tell you, they have beaten who aren't bum teams. They
beat the Bills on the road. They beat Tampa on
the road before Tampa's dropped a couple of games in
a row because they've been ravaged by injuries. Those are
two quality wins. You have a good defense, you have
a very good head coach, and you've got an MVP
(32:48):
candidate as your quarterback. Like you got a lot to
work with right there. So I like the Patriots quite
a bit, and for all the reasons you mentioned With
the Chiefs, it's partially trust in them that they get
it going and partly a lack of trust with the
rest of the field. So I would go with Pats
Chiefs right there. How about the NFC? Who are your
top two choices to come out of the NFC?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Hard not to say the Rams right now? So I
think the Rams are probably number one.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
For me at this stage.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And look, I went Lions Ravens to open the season.
I think this rag now thing matters. I'm gonna stick
with Detroit being number two for me. So I got
Rams in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
There.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
There's just there's some other there's some things I don't
like about almost everybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
That I could make an argument for right here.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, fair, that's exactly who I have. I think the
Rams are the real deal. They're very balanced man offense, defense,
top five in both. They're fantastic man, and I've got
the Lions. I think the Bears are total frauds man,
total frazy. They've beaten nobody. They've had five comeback wins
(33:56):
when trailing like double digits in the fourth quar that
come on that's just not built to last whatsoever. And
who they've come back against, you know what I mean.
It's not like they're coming back against good teams. They're
coming back against bum teams. What happens when they get
down against good teams? Here, I don't buy the Bears
at all. So I think they're gonna slide and that
(34:17):
gives the Lions opportunity to move up in the standings.
And I just think they're battle tested.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Man.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
That the road schedule this year was murderers row for
the Lions, and that can actually help them come playoff time.
Not a big Jared Goff guy, that's the drawback. But
maybe ragnow coming back, like you said, that can help
lessen some pressure, you know with pass rushes getting in
his face. And I can see the Lions being a
(34:44):
very tough out come playoff time.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
How about that feels good to exercise a little bit here,
Hunt Jams.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
It does very good, Yes it does, because we're going
to have to, you know, expand our belt size.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's absolutely right, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
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coming up next on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian. No, we're filling in for
the guys what we're thankful for and what we're not
thankful for on this Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
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Speaker 2 (35:50):
Though.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
We're in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, Jay Martin,
I thought it would be fun. Right, we're feeling fest
today on a Thanksgiving Thursday. What are you thankful for
in the sports world or beyond? What are you not
thankful for so I'll start us off here so there's
(36:11):
plenty of time. I am thankful for the good impression
from our producer, Patty Sweeka of steven A.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I am probably more thankful for the hideous impression he
does of Colin Powhard.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
All right, are you buckled in? Are you ready for this?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I've been waiting for this the whole show.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, Wait here we go now, Patty, Yes, hit
us with the stephen A. Just give a little taste,
all right, all.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Right, right, so this will be like steven A talking
to Lebron when they were having that beef about the
whole Bronnie thing, right, so like stop it.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I just want you.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
Right now, stop it. I was having a conversation wait,
Lebron James, not as a basketball player, but as a
father who is very concerned about his son, Bronnie James
with the camera on me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
See now that that is really good. It's really good.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Now, Jason, with that in mind, how can you explain
how hideous this Colin coward impression is from Patty? You
take it away, Patty, let us let us hear it.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
Now you're seeing I'm with j J. Mart here and
Brian No, I'm calling coward, and we got J Mack
with the news, we got J Mart with just over
here too, and we got Brian No two pros and
a cup of No.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
That's what that's what the show is, right, Yeah, that
is indeed correct. That sounded like Ross Perrot.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
It does and you kept with a rhyme. I like that.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh man, it's I'm thankful for both.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I really am. Great job with Stephen a. Not not
great at all with thank you Coward, but very entertaining
both ways. All right, J Mart, anything on your list
and I you're thankful for or not thankful for?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Well man, thankful for football obviously, if we're just sticking
from the sports side, I'm thankful for, uh, just the
great slate of games that we're all gonna have and
some you know, we're gonna get some clarity here in
this next few days and that's gonna be nice. I'm
thankful for the I'm thankful this year. One other sports
thing I'll say is I'm thankful this year that I've
(38:23):
discovered and just kind of become a.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Big F one fan. I've really enjoyed it all year.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
And we got two more races this season, and the
championship has gotten very interesting and just it wasn't because
the movie is because another friend of mine had jumped
into a years ago and for whatever reason, I said,
you know, I don't cover this, let me just watch it.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
And I started watching it just became something I loved.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
And you kind of had that same experience this summer
with the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
If I'm not the last two years, but I've been
all in with that frequently.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Good for you, better you than me. But yeah, yeah,
I would say those two are just kind of on
the on the sports side.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
And then certainly you know, my uh my beautiful wife
and two daughters and sharing another Thanksgiving with them today
and all made possible by a by a savior that
died so that I could live.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Honestly that that's.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That's my testimony, and that's what I'm gonna always be
most thankful for.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Very cool man Well said, that's awesome and it's funny.
I checked out the ticket prices for the F one
race here in Vegas, yeah, and I was like, holy yeah, hell,
like what the.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I got it? I want to get there, but yeah,
the money.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
If I just robbed the local Chase Bank. That wouldn't
be an I gotta rob free banks and down.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
My gosh, what is going on to night hotel in
Monaco just just two nights?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Is ten grand?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Wow? That's insane.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Man. Well, I'll tell you what I'm thankful for Jameis
Winston because he's so much man, he's adding so much
entertainment value, so fun. And he was asked about his uh,
his favorite thing Thanksgiving dish.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Just listen to this answer. Let it wash over you
favorite Thanksgiving dish?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Man. My wife, man, she makes some kale collar greens.
Some she got a little you know, her family from
New Orleans, so she she make a nice creole dressing.
It's unbelievable. And uh, one of her cousins and aunties
she always ship us some gumbo for us to start
off the day with some gumbo. So man, it's it's
a beautiful thing. Taysom Hill put me on this, on
(40:27):
this turkey. I'm not a particular a ham person, but
Taysom Heill put me on this Uncle Ray's turkey. They
shipped this turkey right to Yo dough. You pop that
thing in the oven, and I'm talking of it is suckulent.
That thing is juicy. It is spicy. Oh my god,
it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
How great is that answer? It's not just the standard.
I like turkey, you know, a little deep fright turkey.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
I just love Jameis Winston generally, just like I even said,
I send this text to somebody on Sunday during the game.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I said, Man, this dude's so fun.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
His whole career. It's just a blast to watch. She
just looks like he loves life.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I'm also thankful for cam Ward's honesty, right the Titans
quarterback remember this earlier in the year.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, we're keeping a book right now, we ask. Yeah,
it's just the best line of the entire year. I
love this, so hilarious. This is so good. When was
the last time tennessee Warren? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's awesome. That's just tremendous right there, they were going
through it. They're actually improved.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
They've played a little bit better lately, and but that's
just that's top chef. I'll tell you one thing I'm
not thankful for je mart I'm gonna sound a little
bit old, but I'm not thankful for constant Steph Curry's
shoe updates Okay, he's a shoe free agent. He left
under armor, and every day it's he's wearing Jordan's. Tonight,
(41:47):
he's wearing some shocks. He's wearing some Halliburtons, he's wearing
some Travis Scott's. I don't care, Okay, Happy Thanksgiving,
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