December 4, 2025 • 42 mins
The guys are joined by Albert Breer as they discuss this week in the NFL, a little Ohio State gloating, and other various NFL insights. Plus the guys discuss Notre Dame's playoff skid in the rankings, The Leftovers, and more!
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
Man gosh man, Yeah, who was flexing.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Can his cigar afterwards.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
On social media, he was letting people know the big
bad Wolf is back.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Like they never left.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
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Buck guys beat down of the Michigan Wolverines at the
Big House AB, good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I was just winning with you mill on Saturday. That's
all okay, Yeah, I mean that's what they do, right,
I was winning with humility, no flags planted.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean, but you guys did X out there, M
and Krip walk the h Io and then Krip walked
the dot the dottings of the I I mean, I'm
just saying, like.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You guys did make a gang related you do.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Know that that was just the mascot was taking some
artistic license. Like I don't know, I mean, like I
just you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, okay, who gets the most sensitive of the Michigan
people that you know in the media, who takes it
personal the most when something like that happens on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Well before Saturday, I would have said, I would have said.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
My good friend rich Eisen, but he actually.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Took it very well, and like I thought, he handled
it like very very.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Well on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I mean, like I don't know, like a deep down
like Schefter, because Chefter will come out every so often
and say something, you know, when they're winning, and then
it's like the game never happened, you know, Like so
sometimes that's when they lose.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So sometimes that's the one that takes the heart.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
It's hard to say.
Speaker 8 (03:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
There's a lot of them in the media though, for sure,
And I've got I personally have like an I'm like
a crap out of Michigan people in my life too,
So like Saturday was a very very good day.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
Well, I mean, by the way, I echoed that on Eisen.
I think I made a comment on the show one
time about Michigan. He has not had me on sense,
which is which is interesting. But it was definitely a
shot across the ballot Michigan and he was not too
pleased about it.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Albert, he takes it personally for sure.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
We were just discussing this about Deshaun Watson having that
twenty one day window to come back for the Browns.
We're kind of throwing back and forth, like should the
Browns want to see what they have in Shador hasn't
really played much. We know Watson's, you know, coming back
from an injury.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
There's a risk there if he plays gets hurt.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
But LeVar thinks that he wants to get something out
of him. What's the point of him coming back this season?
Do you actually see him getting on the field.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
If I'm Kevin Sefanski or Andrew Berry, I would want
to see I would want to like get a look
at him. And here's the reason why. I mean, as
much as we talk about Shador, the Browns actual investment
in Chador isn't.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Isn't very heavy.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It's a fifth round pick, you know, and like a
lot of times fifth round picks don't make the roster
coming out of camp. So, like, I you know, I
think Chaduor is still as much as we talk about him,
the investment isn't a big one in him. The investment
de Sean Watson has been three first round picks, hundreds
of millions of dollars, and they're going to pay him
forty six million dollars next year one way or the other.
(05:01):
Now there's the insurance thing and everything else, and we
can get into that if you want that. That would
be the risk of putting them back out there.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
But you know, I think can you explain it in
like a simple way, because I think there's people out
there who don't probably understand it. Yeah, he's been there
three years, so it's kind of interesting. You feel like
they still need to get a look at him.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Well, I mean, like I think it would be more
Look like, I think the reality is if you're the Browns, right,
and then.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
I don't think you guys disagree with this, the likely
you will quarterback.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The quarterback for next year is probably not on the
roster right now. And so like if there's any shot,
like even a five percent shot that Deshaun Watson could
be that guy because you're already on the hook for
the money anyway, Like, wouldn't you want to get a look.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
At that now some of these see My thing is
I thought it was more trade value based, like if
there's any chance of them getting back anything that shape.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I could play a part of it too, But you
don't know either way if you don't play them right.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So that's the thing, is like and and and there
is that part of it, like where.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
As much as like we think that.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
The Shawn of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Is gone, maybe maybe he's not, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And we did see we did see.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
A guy we don't and I don't want it's gone.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
I don't think he's coming back out seven years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Oh I thought you were talking about my phone connection.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But you think that.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
You thought that you thought that you think that Shaun
is just completely gone, there's no way, yes, okay, And
I think you're probably right, Like, but like I do,
I would look at this if I'm if I'm the
Browns and say, if there's anything there, I don't want
somebody else to find it. If like if I didn't
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get a look at it first, you know what I mean,
Like I don't in other words, like in other words, can.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
You explain the insurance thing though if he does get
injured and the risk that they face there.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
It's like and I like, I honestly like i'd be
talking out of school, like I I don't, I don't
understand it as well, but like there is you know,
there's some insurance on the money for next year. And
I and I think like in the in the case
of an injury they you know, like like any sort
of any sort of like relief that they would get
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on the money if they do cut them ye, like
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Wouldn't be there.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
And I again like I'm not as I'm not as
well read on that one, like, but but there is
an insurance implication.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
And like and look like I think I think part
of this again, like.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Is is if if somebody is going to find something
into Shaun Watson over the next year or two, right, like,
if there is still something there And I'm with you guys,
like I think it's almost almost certainly gone and like
I don't I think.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
They took away superpower, Come on, I.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Think the player, I think the player that he once
was is probably not coming back. But like if if, if,
if that is somewhere in there still right, Like if
that is somewhere in there still and you just sunk
all this money and all those draft picks into him,
and then you didn't put him on the field and
got to look at him over the last few games
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of the year. You cut him, and the next year
he goes somewhere else and all of a sudden, that
guy's back.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
You'd be kicking.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yourself, right, like you'd be, well, I wish I had
gotten a better look at that. And so it's not
like you're going to get some sort of extended look
at him here. But you know, as I look at
it at the end of a at the end of
a lost season, like yes, you want to see a
little bit more from Shador, you know, but you have
five games about to play with, so like, is you know,
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is it does it make some sense the idea that
you could, you know, you could get you you could
at least get a look at what that's what that
would look like, you know, and and what he looks
like coming off the Achilles And if there's anything worth
working for working with there, or maybe again, like you said,
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like maybe there's some sort of trade value where somebody
else wants to take a fly around him. Now, now,
I don't think any other team is going to take
on the forty six million dollars, so you'd obviously have
to pay down a bunch of it, you know, but like, well,
the thought would be.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
The thought would be you pay a bunch down, but
in exchange for him, you get a draft pick, and
you essentially buying.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
That draft You're essentially right, so you're essentially buying a
draft pick, right, Like so it's like all right, like, well,
we were going to pay forty six, so why don't
you take him for twelve and we'll pay the other
we'll pay out the other thirty four and then and
then and then you and then you throw us a
fourth round pick something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Man, simple value. They're screwed either way. I mean, there's
no way around the fact that they're screwed.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Like that's that's the no, no, no, no, this is
this is like, this is the end of it.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
This is the end of a very like a historically
bad guy.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And is there any The question becomes, what is the
value of this Sean Watson. And if you do nothing
with him, if he comes back and there there's perceivably
five games left, if he comes back and you don't
use him at all, then you've gotten zero out of
being screwed anyway. So that's the point I was trying
(10:16):
to make before we hit the break, is I'm putting
him out there, like, and if he gets hurt, he
gets hurt, like, okay, like we're getting If he doesn't
get hurt, there's not going to be the value of
saying like, I don't think what you guys just explained
is even on the table. It's not on the table.
Nobody's going to take it to ye, there's no I
(10:37):
don't think there's any value at all for Deshaun Watson
at the number he's at.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
There's none, especially not seeing him.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
And and you're probably right with LeVar and like the
other piece of this too is like you get your
owner to sign off on that, and there's a pr
PR hit you're gonna take and.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Bring Hi the guy in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
So if you're another team, like and you've got some
interest in taking a flyer into show on Watson, well
there's still that hurdle that you got to clear, which
is like I got to get my owners sign off
on this, you know, so like there's that piece of
it too.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So again, like all.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Of this is really unlikely. It's really unlikely that you know,
he's the Browns quarterback next year. It's really unlikely.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
That they wind up getting anything for.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Him in the trade.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
However, like you know, absent all that, like.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
What do you do at the end of the year,
do you just hold him on the roster for another year,
which could complicate things with a new quarterback coming in?
Do you cut him and then he goes somewhere else?
And if he goes somewhere else and now he flashes,
now you will keep in dumber for not putting him
on the field at the end of the year to
at least see what you had.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
You know, it's complicated, and.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
It would be honestly, it would be.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
It would be much easier for.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Them if he had just said, okay, the hell with it,
like I or his rehab had gone a little slower
and it was like okay, like I'm just gonna be
on ir.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
The rest of the year, you know, like out, I guess.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Much simpler cleaner thing for them. But now that he's
on the roster, like I think it's kind of like okay,
like he's not on the roster yet, but he's on.
You know, he's designated a return and they've got twenty
one days to decide whether they want to put him
on the roster or not. Like now it's like, okay,
like do we really like, like should we just get
a look at him and see what he looks like
after all this and see if there's anything to work with,
(12:22):
whether it's with us or someone else. In twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Six, you've had three years. I just think it's a risk.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
But to me, I'd rather say I want on the record,
by the way, Albert and LeVar.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I want to see Chador all right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (12:35):
Just I got to I got to see him play more.
I think he needs more reps. I'd rather see sha
door and perfect and have some perfect timing more so
than see Watson.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I think you've already know what you want to see, mister,
let me door Sanders, it's perfect timing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Sit again, do you Brady?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Do you think there's something there.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
With shaudor Here's the thing is, he hasn't plate enough
for me to know.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
Yeah, so like, but here's what I don't think there's
anything there with Watson. He's thirty years old, he's coming
off of Achilles injury, he's hurt. We've seen him for
three years in games and in practice, and so like,
there's a greater likelihood in my mind that Shador would
turn out to be something more so than where Deshaun
Watson's out at this point in his career.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Can I can I jump in on that?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Can I can I give some perspective on that and
then you take it a B. What I would say
is the value Again, what you guys presented the value
of Shador in the fifth round says to me, I
don't necessarily even if I'm going to bring in a
quarterback in this year's draft, I don't necessarily look at
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it as I have to be in a rush with
Shador Sanders. But the value that's connected to Deshaun Watson,
regardless of what I've seen from him in the last
three years, I need to see what I have right now,
currently present, if that man is available to play, because
I want to try to see if I could salvage
any schmidgeon of value out of what I did bringing
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that man to this team. Speaking of Deshaun Watson, I
gotta see what I have in the Shawn, and for
what it's.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Worth, I might bring to Shaun Watson back next year.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I can afford to keep Dylan Gabriel and afford
to keep Shador Sanders and draft another quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They can do that.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
They have four quarterbacks this year, and like you said,
you they will. They've played all well, they got rid
of Picket, but Pickett Picket they played. They were gonna
play all four of them anyway, All of the quarterbacks played.
So if you're gonna, if you're gonna potentially hold four quarterbacks,
then who's to say you add one next year in
the draft. That's a top draft pick. That doesn't create
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a problem. They're on their rookie contract, you got you
still have time to find out what you have in
the quarterbacks you have now next season.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
That's why I was at a restructure his deal though.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
He's got eighty point seven million dollars cap hit, so
if he's on the roster, it's like what are you.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Doing with that?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So either he's on the roster or you got a
cutting right, So either way basically Okay, so either way,
you're not getting any value out of it.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
If you cut him, you're still on the hook for
the money.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
And like it's just again.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
Not the additional funds, the forty million, not the eighty million.
What's that I said, not the additional You could do
it a post June one designation and split that cap
hit up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
You could split well, yeah, you could split it up.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You could also restructure if he's still on the roster
and put dummy ears in the back end.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
Sure, and he's already got that, by the way. That's
the problemse You'd be extending him out even further.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You've already yeah, I mean you've already mortgaged that thing
to Mars, you know what I mean. Like so like
that that like that piece of it, Like you're you're
just pushing a problem for now into the future.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
There Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. ABE,
speaking of guys you like massages, Robert raft is a
time finally great And I'm just I was just wondering
tremendous segue based on your knowledge, not of his fetishes,
but of that situation in New England. Why has it
taken so long for him to get in the Hall
(16:14):
of Fame.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
What what that was the most ridiculous. I mean, Jonas,
I gotta give you credits. That was the Jonas that
was Like, that was like, I.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Think, I think you've been hanging around Brady.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
No, Jonas is the king of the grab Lab.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Albert, there's no one who loves talking about the grab
Lab or whatever their names.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
He comes up with Pallace.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, what Jonas the hand house, you know, hand house?
But like, why what is the delay based on the credentials?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like Jerry Jones is already in? I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So I think I.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Think they have like basically, I think a backlog of
owners that they wanted to get in, right, Like, so,
so Jerry went first, and then you know, I think
Pap bole and Robert Kraft were next. And if you
guys remember Pap Bolland was really, really sick and you know,
like in the throes of in the throws of Alzheimer's,
(17:14):
and so so he winds up getting in. And I
believe I want to say, Jerry was seventeen, and then
Bowling got it in eighteen, and then it was all right,
Craft is next, and then the Orchards of Asia thing
happened right then, right and if you go and it
(17:38):
really it was a factor because.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was like, did you ever investigate the building, Albert
for the inside information of Orchards of Asia?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
But it was so that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Really is the reason.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
But but it was a factor at first because like
I think that they were like I think that the
committee looks at it like okay, like, well we can't
put him in, like right after that happened, you know
what I I mean, like and so like then that happens,
then you have the divorce with Belichick, then you have
and like all of that. I mean, I think, like
the reality is he should be in and regardless of
(18:14):
like what you think about and I have my own
thoughts on like how many owners should actually be in
the Hall of Fame and how we look at owners
is so fickle, you know, like it can change from
year to year, and I think, you know, Robert has
sort of been a victim of that to some degree.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But like I think as far as like.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
If you if you're okay with owners going in, but
he checks all the boxes. He's obviously wanted a very
high level. He's winning again now after after a tough
four or five years, and like he's made an impact
on the league too. He's been very involved with you know,
the broadcast deals and everything else. So I think that
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the timing for him was really tough, right, like that
timing in twenty nineteen, that that happened when it happened,
like right as he was, I think on his way
to going in, you know, was unfortunate. And whether or
not he gets in now, like the interesting thing now
is that he is going to be head to head
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with Bill for it, because it's the two of them,
and then it's Elsie Greenwood, Ken Anderson and Roger Craig
and so all the fifty voters now.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Can vote for up to three.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
They don't have to vote for three, but they can
vote for up to three of those.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Five and you need eighty.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Percent of the vote to get in. So like in
all likelihood, two non players, like it's hard for two
non players to get in, and that sort of circumstance.
So you know, I think on a lot of ballots
it's gonna be Belichick versus Craft, which makes it which
makes it sort of interesting and.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Adds another layer to all this. But I think Ultimately
both of them are going to wind up. I mean,
obviously Bill's going to get in and Robert will two.
Ultimately both of them will get in. Whether or not
they both get in this.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Year, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
How are How is Roger Craig and Elsie Greenwood not
already in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 10 (20:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
How does that? How does that work? I get, I
get that there was.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
A lot of amazing, tremendously great players on both teams
for Roger Craig and for Elsie Greenwood, but their accolades
and their their accomplishments are very significant, even in the
personal on the personal level of it, not just the
many Super Bowls that they were able to be a
part of, but you know, they were all pros. They
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were you know, multiple times you know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Pro Bowlers. Like how how does that happen?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Ab Like, like what goes through the mind of a
voter where guys like that that accomplished at that high
of a level aren't aren't able to get in. I mean,
Elsie Greenwood won't even be able to realize if they
actually vote him in, he's not even here to be
able to enjoy and reap the benefits of being a
(21:00):
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm not on the committee, LeVar. So like I can't
speak of the inner workings of the room, but I
think it's exactly what you're what you're saying, which is
like there the teams that they played on had so
many great players that sometimes I think these guys like
you know that are a little bit further down the line,
get lost in the shuffle, and I'm with you, like
(21:24):
Elsie Green would obviously was a it was a huge
part of of of a historically great defense.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
And so like I think, you know, now, is he
compared with you know.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
The Jack Lamberts, and the and the and the Me
and Joe Greens and the and the mel Blunts, And
is it like, well, can we put in another one
of them?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You can't say their names without saying is you got Ham,
you got Lambert, you got me? And Joe you got Mail?
You can't say that. And and for what is worth
hall of fame, not hall.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Of not just what you're out. Yeah, many gold shoes
on it. Maybe he brought swag.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And I'm with you, and I'm with you, and then
you consider and then you.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Consider Roger Craig, It's like, okay, like, well, where does
Roger Craig rank with Joe Montana's, the Brent Jones, the
Jerry Rice's, the John Taylor's, the Dwight Clark's, Like where
does he?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But John Taylor isn't in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Right And I would make that and I would make
the argument. And this is why I think, like on
offense to the Steelers, like Lynn Swan, it took forever
for him to get in, right like that, he was
such a huge part of what they did. I think
part of the problem Lindn Swan.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Had right like was that if you if.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
You look at what's happened the receiver position, the numbers
were so different back then, it became hard for people
to kind of conceptualize, Okay, how great was he? Roger
Craig to me was like a fore runner, you know,
like I always looked like at my era, right like
and growing up like thurmon Thomas was sort of the
fore runner for Marshall Falk right like where and now
(22:59):
you see a lot of backs like that, but that
wasn't that common back in the.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Day, right like, where you had the guy.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He was right and Roger Christian McCaffrey like he's like
the multi.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Yeah, Roger Craig was the first thousand thousand player right
like a thousand yards. I think I think he was
a I think that's I think he was. So, you know,
Roger Craig was certainly like a fur runner for again,
in that genre of running back. If you want to
talk about impact in the game, I'm certainly there on that.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So that's why the Seniors Committee.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Exists, you know, LeVar like, sometimes there are guys.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That get lost in the shuffle and and you and
people need to take a second look at him. And
I think that that's what's good about the Seniors Committee.
You know, when then when guys do slip.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Through the cracks that way, there is like a mechanism
in the in the in the whole process that that
that can force everybody to take.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
A second look.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
And I think both Else green Wood and Roger Craig
are really good candidate.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, perfect candidates. Just which else was there to be
able to enjoy it? Man?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, all right, Well, ab moment of truth.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you believe Albert Brier that at the end of
the Big Ten Championship game, this weekend that the Ohio
State Buckeyes will have beaten Indiana by more than four points.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, I will be there, and I'm gonna say, yes,
I'm excited to get out there. I think Brady, you're
going to be out there too, right.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll be out there. Are you coming
to top three?
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I didn't know. I didn't know because I think former
quarterbacks gotta be careful. And those those Indianapolis streets.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Oh wow, that's a low hanging fruit. Wow, that's low
hanging fruit.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Albert. First off, let me just say this, Okay, t
hanging fruit are.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Albert spends enough time during the combine in Indianapolish, he
spends enough time at the you know, during the combine
Indiapolis that I've seen him all right, Oh, many a knight,
many early mornings, and he's powered through. But he loves Indianapolis.
Don't let Albert twist.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
This, Okay, I'm a big fan of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That yes he is haang, what does he say?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
In ab one of the one of the one of
the the the nation's pre eminent steak and shake locations
is right there. That's downtown, which I was I was
highly disappointed to find out that that that Steak and
Shake is no longer twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Just a really bad business decision by the executives there.
But uh, you know, you got Prime forty seven down there,
you got Almo's, you got Conrad.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I'm excited to get back out there. This is like
the first time I've gone on in a non combine
setting for in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So you know, we'll see what it's like out there
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I'm excited for you, excited for you, Abe. You should be.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
You should be.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
It's a big It's gonna be a big night.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Get him on X at Albert Breer.
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Speaker 5 (26:04):
We'll do it again next.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Week, Albert.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
All right, thanks guys, have a good one.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
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of the things we talked about yesterday is the new
college football playoff rankings and it's kind of interesting how
all of a sudden Alabama has jumped Notre Dame based
on this weekend's results and why now that actually took place.
Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame, tried to
(30:31):
make sense of it with the media yesterday.
Speaker 10 (30:33):
A little bit of confusion.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
You're confused in terms of what we could have done differently, right,
and why we fell when we won forty nine to twenty.
I mean, we were up forty forty two to six
going in the fourth quarter, and that's the only thing.
And it's not a I don't I don't spend time
talking about other teams, but it's just like, Okay, what
(30:58):
could we have done differently?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Don't know? Very bizarre, very bizarre, the the whole well.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
And it's it's bizarre because, as I've said before, like
people won't acknowledge Notre name Stafford as a rivalry, but
you play for something, it's a rivalry.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
We play every single year.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
And as much as there's the tradition of Notre Dame
USC and you know, trading off even in odd years
when when which team goes where it actually is the
coincides with Stanford, you know, when we're not going to
sc during Thanksgiving at the end of the season and
we go to Stanford, and so those are always your
two California trips.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
It's been that way for a long time.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
And you know, I think there is probably more similarities
in regards to how Notre Dame and Stafford view themselves.
And so anyway, I bring that up because the committee
talked about, well, Albert or Alabama won a rivalry game
ors Alburn It's like, okay, but they damn near gave
up that game, whereas Notre Dame kind of like took
(31:58):
their foot off the gas and.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
The fourth quarter.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
And I also had, you know, some people who were saying, well,
and this is like a bigger picture conversation, is go
look at you know, Miami and Pitt and go look
at some of these other games and how long crystal
Ball is leaving in his starters and trying to run
up scores, which, mind you, a lot of teams are
doing that.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
I've had this conversation with urban Meyer when he talked
about the first year of the playoff when they were
ranked six, that they leaped frog both Baylor and TCU
back when the Big Twelve didn't have a conference championship game.
They literally had to keep scoring versus Wisconsin to convince
the committee they were one of the top four teams.
Now they ultimately were, and they end up winning a
national championship. But there's some of that going on right now.
(32:43):
And if you care about sportsmanchev, if you care about
any of that stuff, you know it's it's kind of
tough to watch. But I would just I would say this,
Do I think both Miami and.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Notre Dame are better than BYU? Yeah? I do. And
people can throw BYU's redsid may or whatever you want
to say.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
I'm sorry, Like I think any odds maker would also
have both those teams favored versus b YU. Also, I
think Notre Dame and Miami are probably better than Bama. Like,
we're letting Bama get the benefit of the doubt because
they play in the SEC, and if they lose this
week versus Georgia, I think most people feel like they're in.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
And I don't think that should be the case. I
really don't.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
Like we're talking about what would be a three loss
team who lost in the conference championship to you know,
a team that, like, again, if Ohio State is the
top of the college football world, and then you kind
of look at the SEC this year, the SEC doesn't
really have one dominant team. It was a m but
they played a softer schedule within the SEC this year,
a team that Notre Dame really basically beat, if not
(33:47):
for a botched pat and a terrible miscall in the
final play. So I just I kind of look at
it and say, like, do I think Miami and Notre
Dame are both two of the top teams in college football?
I do, But because of our format, you know, we
might be having you know, two group of six conference
champions getting a JMU in Tulane. And I'm also down
against the access of those smaller schools. But I do
(34:11):
think if we were going to expand, and we need
to expand because we're probably going to have a system
that leaves out some teams that probably could go on
a run and make it, and we're letting in potentially
a few teams who don't really have a shot whatsoever.
Like if UVA goes in, I'm sorry to people who
are Virginia fans. My sister went there and played soccer there.
I would I told her. I was like, they don't
(34:32):
have no shot at winning a national championship. They might
win the ACC and be duke, They're probably gonna be
a one and done once they get into the playoff.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
And it's like, that's the reality of where we're at.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
And I think there's a lot of people frustrated by
it because they want to see the best teams, the best,
you know, best games, and we don't have a format
really for that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right now, Your sister went to Virginia and played soccer too,
so like everybody in your family, d one athlete must
be nice, must be nice. Man, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So the uh, well, well, Notre Dame. What schools did
your family and you go to? Where did I'll go?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Uh? Nowhere? TGI Friday's Tech.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
That's where I went.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So uh So, y'all got to get a college education
to be a dope, dope radio host on your own
show in college.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's the American dream. Broum Lebron, so the uh.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
To the radio version of Lebron, it's.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
A lofty.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Uh no.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So the Notre Dame to make the Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
To make the college football playoff on DraftKings, what you say?
The odds are based on the most recent.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
College it's plus money plus minus four to make the playoff,
which is wild because like, I don't know that the
committee is going to see b YU out because because
again this is only the second year we've had the
twelve team playoff, but we haven't seen the committee penalized
(36:03):
teams who played in the conference championship weekend.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
SMU lost last year eleven to two represent the ACC.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
You know this, bar, that was the week first game,
and it's like they didn't penalize them, and granted, you
know that they were awful, Like let's be real, like
Penn State beat the crap out of them, but also
s mus not very good. You know, I think you'd
admit that too, Bar, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
We had a great day. We had a great time
that day. I mean, yeah, I regret that.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Was that was probably you were happy about that that
seed like you knew.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
We're like, oh, yes, that's great.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I knew we were going to see whoever won between
you and Indiana. We knew that. Yeah, and think about sorry.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Teams are looking at Tilane.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
That's how teams are looking at JMU if they get in,
you know, it's it's like Old miss has it set up.
They've got a really, really easy path. So they need
to expand they need to figure out a way of
these these super com differences, either getting rid of the
conference championship game altogether because it's meaningless, and then have
(37:07):
playing games like right now, Clark.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Lee said it. He goes, hey, boys, we can go
play on two days. Notice.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
He's like, beer, keep your bags packed, let's go. Let's
go play Miamian. Let's go play a Notre Dame. Let's
go play another team in contention this weekend, so we
can prove that we're very you know, capable of being
in and being one of the best teams in the country.
Like that's how some of these coaches are handling this.
So I understand the frustration, but when it comes down
to it, like it's more of the system right now
(37:33):
that we've got than anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I mean, they're I mean, how many other teams outside
of Ohio, like the teams that would that you would
look at and say, that's a legitimate national champion possibility.
Notre Dame's on the short list, and they're they're possibly
going to be on the outside looking in without losing
(37:56):
in a couple of months. That's kind of strange, Like
they just the whole lots.
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Speaker 10 (39:07):
Dolly Parton could get that work.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Work Time to find out what's left towns Incredible. Here's
the left.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Over, kyler Y Ray, what have we got?
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Okay, bar This one is specifically for.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
You, Dolly Parton could get that work now.
Speaker 13 (39:24):
You may never want to fly again because Dolly Parton
has introduced Dolly's Tennessee and Travel Stop coming here in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
Six, Dolly part What does that mean?
Speaker 12 (39:34):
That work she's kind of making like a Boosy's.
Speaker 13 (39:36):
But it's starting in Tennessee, so it's going to be
family oriented, truck driver oriented, best stop that.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
You can find along the highway.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
So she's actually poised to bring jobs and attention to
under service communities across Tennessee and beyond.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
I mean, I thought you're saying could get that work.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I thought you're saying she was going to be on
tour to trust that. Well, I would have been in
on that.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
I bet she's going to be at every open.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, but I don't want it to be family friendly.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
What do you want?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I mean you here to drop.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
Dolly Parton could get that work.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And it could happen out of truck stop.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
I might risk it.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I might risk it, Dolly Parton, I might risk it.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
Dolly Parton could get that work, all right, I get it.
Speaker 12 (40:21):
Truck stuffed Yeah, Oh my gosh, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
She is a lot wizard?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Well, she's the one doing it. I didn't pick truck stops,
you did. I just don't want to be friendly, family friendly.
Speaker 13 (40:33):
Thing, but the family friendly Okay, So I actually sent
you guys a little thing on Instagram yesterday in case
you saw it. Exciting things are coming for major League Baseball.
Speaker 12 (40:41):
You know, Vegas just trying to up.
Speaker 13 (40:43):
The ante on their sports venue extraordinaiy over there yesterday
the day before yesterday, now, the A's displayed a mini
model of their new ballpark that will be the focal
point of their ballpark Experience Center in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It looked like a baseball cup, you know, like your
training cup looks like the thing you put in your
jockstrap protection.
Speaker 12 (41:10):
You saying it, No, it looks like a spaceship.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
To me, it looks like a cup.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
You've never played football, Jotok, you clearly don't know what
a couple looks like. Look at that picture, a couple
of look at that picture, and look at what.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't really look at a lot of cups. To
be honest, it's not my thing.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
It reminded me Jonas.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It wasn't like I was looking for, like, Oh, this
looks like something that.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Like I got to look at.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
By the way, if anybody's wondering, Justin Cooper is still awake.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
He just randomly sent me.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
That that good.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Let's just put it this way.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Coop's got new respect for Miles Garrett's put that.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
That's what that was?
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, what else?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
We galleda?
Speaker 13 (42:07):
We got like ten seconds left, but me and Patty
are going to Disneyland tonight.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
Man gosh man, Yeah, who was flexing.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Can his cigar afterwards.
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On social media, he was letting people know the big
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Like they never left.
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Speaker 6 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
I was just winning with you mill on Saturday. That's
all okay, Yeah, I mean that's what they do, right,
I was winning with humility, no flags planted.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean, but you guys did X out there, M
and Krip walk the h Io and then Krip walked
the dot the dottings of the I I mean, I'm
just saying, like.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
You guys did make a gang related you do.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Know that that was just the mascot was taking some
artistic license. Like I don't know, I mean, like I
just you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, okay, who gets the most sensitive of the Michigan
people that you know in the media, who takes it
personal the most when something like that happens on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Well before Saturday, I would have said, I would have said.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
My good friend rich Eisen, but he actually.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Took it very well, and like I thought, he handled
it like very very.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Well on Monday.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I mean, like I don't know, like a deep down
like Schefter, because Chefter will come out every so often
and say something, you know, when they're winning, and then
it's like the game never happened, you know, Like so
sometimes that's when they lose.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
So sometimes that's the one that takes the heart.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
It's hard to say.
Speaker 8 (03:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
There's a lot of them in the media though, for sure,
And I've got I personally have like an I'm like
a crap out of Michigan people in my life too,
So like Saturday was a very very good day.
Speaker 9 (03:35):
Well, I mean, by the way, I echoed that on Eisen.
I think I made a comment on the show one
time about Michigan. He has not had me on sense,
which is which is interesting. But it was definitely a
shot across the ballot Michigan and he was not too
pleased about it.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
Albert, he takes it personally for sure.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
We were just discussing this about Deshaun Watson having that
twenty one day window to come back for the Browns.
We're kind of throwing back and forth, like should the
Browns want to see what they have in Shador hasn't
really played much. We know Watson's, you know, coming back
from an injury.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
There's a risk there if he plays gets hurt.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
But LeVar thinks that he wants to get something out
of him. What's the point of him coming back this season?
Do you actually see him getting on the field.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
If I'm Kevin Sefanski or Andrew Berry, I would want
to see I would want to like get a look
at him. And here's the reason why. I mean, as
much as we talk about Shador, the Browns actual investment
in Chador isn't.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Isn't very heavy.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It's a fifth round pick, you know, and like a
lot of times fifth round picks don't make the roster
coming out of camp. So, like, I you know, I
think Chaduor is still as much as we talk about him,
the investment isn't a big one in him. The investment
de Sean Watson has been three first round picks, hundreds
of millions of dollars, and they're going to pay him
forty six million dollars next year one way or the other.
(05:01):
Now there's the insurance thing and everything else, and we
can get into that if you want that. That would
be the risk of putting them back out there.
Speaker 9 (05:06):
But you know, I think can you explain it in
like a simple way, because I think there's people out
there who don't probably understand it. Yeah, he's been there
three years, so it's kind of interesting. You feel like
they still need to get a look at him.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Well, I mean, like I think it would be more
Look like, I think the reality is if you're the Browns, right,
and then.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
I don't think you guys disagree with this, the likely
you will quarterback.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The quarterback for next year is probably not on the
roster right now. And so like if there's any shot,
like even a five percent shot that Deshaun Watson could
be that guy because you're already on the hook for
the money anyway, Like, wouldn't you want to get a look.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
At that now some of these see My thing is
I thought it was more trade value based, like if
there's any chance of them getting back anything that shape.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I could play a part of it too, But you
don't know either way if you don't play them right.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So that's the thing, is like and and and there
is that part of it, like where.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
As much as like we think that.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
The Shawn of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Is gone, maybe maybe he's not, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And we did see we did see.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
A guy we don't and I don't want it's gone.
Speaker 9 (06:20):
I don't think he's coming back out seven years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Oh I thought you were talking about my phone connection.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But you think that.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
You thought that you thought that you think that Shaun
is just completely gone, there's no way, yes, okay, And
I think you're probably right, Like, but like I do,
I would look at this if I'm if I'm the
Browns and say, if there's anything there, I don't want
somebody else to find it. If like if I didn't
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get a look at it first, you know what I mean,
Like I don't in other words, like in other words, can.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
You explain the insurance thing though if he does get
injured and the risk that they face there.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
It's like and I like, I honestly like i'd be
talking out of school, like I I don't, I don't
understand it as well, but like there is you know,
there's some insurance on the money for next year. And
I and I think like in the in the case
of an injury they you know, like like any sort
of any sort of like relief that they would get
(07:22):
on the money if they do cut them ye, like
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Wouldn't be there.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
And I again like I'm not as I'm not as
well read on that one, like, but but there is
an insurance implication.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
And like and look like I think I think part
of this again, like.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Is is if if somebody is going to find something
into Shaun Watson over the next year or two, right, like,
if there is still something there And I'm with you guys,
like I think it's almost almost certainly gone and like
I don't I think.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
They took away superpower, Come on, I.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Think the player, I think the player that he once
was is probably not coming back. But like if if, if,
if that is somewhere in there still right, Like if
that is somewhere in there still and you just sunk
all this money and all those draft picks into him,
and then you didn't put him on the field and
got to look at him over the last few games
(08:20):
of the year. You cut him, and the next year
he goes somewhere else and all of a sudden, that
guy's back.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
You'd be kicking.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yourself, right, like you'd be, well, I wish I had
gotten a better look at that. And so it's not
like you're going to get some sort of extended look
at him here. But you know, as I look at
it at the end of a at the end of
a lost season, like yes, you want to see a
little bit more from Shador, you know, but you have
five games about to play with, so like, is you know,
(08:47):
is it does it make some sense the idea that
you could, you know, you could get you you could
at least get a look at what that's what that
would look like, you know, and and what he looks
like coming off the Achilles And if there's anything worth
working for working with there, or maybe again, like you said,
(09:07):
like maybe there's some sort of trade value where somebody
else wants to take a fly around him. Now, now,
I don't think any other team is going to take
on the forty six million dollars, so you'd obviously have
to pay down a bunch of it, you know, but like, well,
the thought would be.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
The thought would be you pay a bunch down, but
in exchange for him, you get a draft pick, and
you essentially buying.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
That draft You're essentially right, so you're essentially buying a
draft pick, right, Like so it's like all right, like, well,
we were going to pay forty six, so why don't
you take him for twelve and we'll pay the other
we'll pay out the other thirty four and then and
then and then you and then you throw us a
fourth round pick something like that.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Man, simple value. They're screwed either way. I mean, there's
no way around the fact that they're screwed.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Like that's that's the no, no, no, no, this is
this is like, this is the end of it.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
This is the end of a very like a historically
bad guy.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And is there any The question becomes, what is the
value of this Sean Watson. And if you do nothing
with him, if he comes back and there there's perceivably
five games left, if he comes back and you don't
use him at all, then you've gotten zero out of
being screwed anyway. So that's the point I was trying
(10:16):
to make before we hit the break, is I'm putting
him out there, like, and if he gets hurt, he
gets hurt, like, okay, like we're getting If he doesn't
get hurt, there's not going to be the value of
saying like, I don't think what you guys just explained
is even on the table. It's not on the table.
Nobody's going to take it to ye, there's no I
(10:37):
don't think there's any value at all for Deshaun Watson
at the number he's at.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
There's none, especially not seeing him.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
And and you're probably right with LeVar and like the
other piece of this too is like you get your
owner to sign off on that, and there's a pr
PR hit you're gonna take and.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Bring Hi the guy in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
So if you're another team, like and you've got some
interest in taking a flyer into show on Watson, well
there's still that hurdle that you got to clear, which
is like I got to get my owners sign off
on this, you know, so like there's that piece of
it too.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So again, like all.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Of this is really unlikely. It's really unlikely that you know,
he's the Browns quarterback next year. It's really unlikely.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
That they wind up getting anything for.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Him in the trade.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
However, like you know, absent all that, like.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
What do you do at the end of the year,
do you just hold him on the roster for another year,
which could complicate things with a new quarterback coming in?
Do you cut him and then he goes somewhere else?
And if he goes somewhere else and now he flashes,
now you will keep in dumber for not putting him
on the field at the end of the year to
at least see what you had.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
You know, it's complicated, and.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
It would be honestly, it would be.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
It would be much easier for.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Them if he had just said, okay, the hell with it,
like I or his rehab had gone a little slower
and it was like okay, like I'm just gonna be
on ir.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
The rest of the year, you know, like out, I guess.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
Much simpler cleaner thing for them. But now that he's
on the roster, like I think it's kind of like okay,
like he's not on the roster yet, but he's on.
You know, he's designated a return and they've got twenty
one days to decide whether they want to put him
on the roster or not. Like now it's like, okay,
like do we really like, like should we just get
a look at him and see what he looks like
after all this and see if there's anything to work with,
(12:22):
whether it's with us or someone else. In twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Six, you've had three years. I just think it's a risk.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
But to me, I'd rather say I want on the record,
by the way, Albert and LeVar.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I want to see Chador all right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (12:35):
Just I got to I got to see him play more.
I think he needs more reps. I'd rather see sha
door and perfect and have some perfect timing more so
than see Watson.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I think you've already know what you want to see, mister,
let me door Sanders, it's perfect timing.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Sit again, do you Brady?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Do you think there's something there.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
With shaudor Here's the thing is, he hasn't plate enough
for me to know.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
Yeah, so like, but here's what I don't think there's
anything there with Watson. He's thirty years old, he's coming
off of Achilles injury, he's hurt. We've seen him for
three years in games and in practice, and so like,
there's a greater likelihood in my mind that Shador would
turn out to be something more so than where Deshaun
Watson's out at this point in his career.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Can I can I jump in on that?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Can I can I give some perspective on that and
then you take it a B. What I would say
is the value Again, what you guys presented the value
of Shador in the fifth round says to me, I
don't necessarily even if I'm going to bring in a
quarterback in this year's draft, I don't necessarily look at
(13:45):
it as I have to be in a rush with
Shador Sanders. But the value that's connected to Deshaun Watson,
regardless of what I've seen from him in the last
three years, I need to see what I have right now,
currently present, if that man is available to play, because
I want to try to see if I could salvage
any schmidgeon of value out of what I did bringing
(14:09):
that man to this team. Speaking of Deshaun Watson, I
gotta see what I have in the Shawn, and for
what it's.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Worth, I might bring to Shaun Watson back next year.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I can afford to keep Dylan Gabriel and afford
to keep Shador Sanders and draft another quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They can do that.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
They have four quarterbacks this year, and like you said,
you they will. They've played all well, they got rid
of Picket, but Pickett Picket they played. They were gonna
play all four of them anyway, All of the quarterbacks played.
So if you're gonna, if you're gonna potentially hold four quarterbacks,
then who's to say you add one next year in
the draft. That's a top draft pick. That doesn't create
(14:50):
a problem. They're on their rookie contract, you got you
still have time to find out what you have in
the quarterbacks you have now next season.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
That's why I was at a restructure his deal though.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
He's got eighty point seven million dollars cap hit, so
if he's on the roster, it's like what are you.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Doing with that?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So either he's on the roster or you got a
cutting right, So either way basically Okay, so either way,
you're not getting any value out of it.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
If you cut him, you're still on the hook for
the money.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
And like it's just again.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
Not the additional funds, the forty million, not the eighty million.
What's that I said, not the additional You could do
it a post June one designation and split that cap
hit up a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
You could split well, yeah, you could split it up.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
You could also restructure if he's still on the roster
and put dummy ears in the back end.
Speaker 9 (15:35):
Sure, and he's already got that, by the way. That's
the problemse You'd be extending him out even further.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You've already yeah, I mean you've already mortgaged that thing
to Mars, you know what I mean. Like so like
that that like that piece of it, Like you're you're
just pushing a problem for now into the future.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
There Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. ABE,
speaking of guys you like massages, Robert raft is a
time finally great And I'm just I was just wondering
tremendous segue based on your knowledge, not of his fetishes,
but of that situation in New England. Why has it
taken so long for him to get in the Hall
(16:14):
of Fame.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
What what that was the most ridiculous. I mean, Jonas,
I gotta give you credits. That was the Jonas that
was Like, that was like, I.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Think, I think you've been hanging around Brady.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
No, Jonas is the king of the grab Lab.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Albert, there's no one who loves talking about the grab
Lab or whatever their names.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
He comes up with Pallace.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, what Jonas the hand house, you know, hand house?
But like, why what is the delay based on the credentials?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Like Jerry Jones is already in? I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
So I think I.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Think they have like basically, I think a backlog of
owners that they wanted to get in, right, Like, so,
so Jerry went first, and then you know, I think
Pap bole and Robert Kraft were next. And if you
guys remember Pap Bolland was really, really sick and you know,
like in the throes of in the throws of Alzheimer's,
(17:14):
and so so he winds up getting in. And I
believe I want to say, Jerry was seventeen, and then
Bowling got it in eighteen, and then it was all right,
Craft is next, and then the Orchards of Asia thing
happened right then, right and if you go and it
(17:38):
really it was a factor because.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was like, did you ever investigate the building, Albert
for the inside information of Orchards of Asia?
Speaker 10 (17:46):
But it was so that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Really is the reason.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
But but it was a factor at first because like
I think that they were like I think that the
committee looks at it like okay, like, well we can't
put him in, like right after that happened, you know
what I I mean, like and so like then that happens,
then you have the divorce with Belichick, then you have
and like all of that. I mean, I think, like
the reality is he should be in and regardless of
(18:14):
like what you think about and I have my own
thoughts on like how many owners should actually be in
the Hall of Fame and how we look at owners
is so fickle, you know, like it can change from
year to year, and I think, you know, Robert has
sort of been a victim of that to some degree.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
But like I think as far as like.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
If you if you're okay with owners going in, but
he checks all the boxes. He's obviously wanted a very
high level. He's winning again now after after a tough
four or five years, and like he's made an impact
on the league too. He's been very involved with you know,
the broadcast deals and everything else. So I think that
(18:52):
the timing for him was really tough, right, like that
timing in twenty nineteen, that that happened when it happened,
like right as he was, I think on his way
to going in, you know, was unfortunate. And whether or
not he gets in now, like the interesting thing now
is that he is going to be head to head
(19:13):
with Bill for it, because it's the two of them,
and then it's Elsie Greenwood, Ken Anderson and Roger Craig
and so all the fifty voters now.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Can vote for up to three.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
They don't have to vote for three, but they can
vote for up to three of those.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Five and you need eighty.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Percent of the vote to get in. So like in
all likelihood, two non players, like it's hard for two
non players to get in, and that sort of circumstance.
So you know, I think on a lot of ballots
it's gonna be Belichick versus Craft, which makes it which
makes it sort of interesting and.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Adds another layer to all this. But I think Ultimately
both of them are going to wind up. I mean,
obviously Bill's going to get in and Robert will two.
Ultimately both of them will get in. Whether or not
they both get in this.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Year, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
How are How is Roger Craig and Elsie Greenwood not
already in the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Speaker 10 (20:07):
Like?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
How does that? How does that work? I get, I
get that there was.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
A lot of amazing, tremendously great players on both teams
for Roger Craig and for Elsie Greenwood, but their accolades
and their their accomplishments are very significant, even in the
personal on the personal level of it, not just the
many Super Bowls that they were able to be a
part of, but you know, they were all pros. They
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were you know, multiple times you know.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Pro Bowlers. Like how how does that happen?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Ab Like, like what goes through the mind of a
voter where guys like that that accomplished at that high
of a level aren't aren't able to get in. I mean,
Elsie Greenwood won't even be able to realize if they
actually vote him in, he's not even here to be
able to enjoy and reap the benefits of being a
(21:00):
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm not on the committee, LeVar. So like I can't
speak of the inner workings of the room, but I
think it's exactly what you're what you're saying, which is
like there the teams that they played on had so
many great players that sometimes I think these guys like
you know that are a little bit further down the line,
get lost in the shuffle, and I'm with you, like
(21:24):
Elsie Green would obviously was a it was a huge
part of of of a historically great defense.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
And so like I think, you know, now, is he
compared with you know.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
The Jack Lamberts, and the and the and the Me
and Joe Greens and the and the mel Blunts, And
is it like, well, can we put in another one
of them?
Speaker 6 (21:43):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You can't say their names without saying is you got Ham,
you got Lambert, you got me? And Joe you got Mail?
You can't say that. And and for what is worth
hall of fame, not hall.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Of not just what you're out. Yeah, many gold shoes
on it. Maybe he brought swag.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And I'm with you, and I'm with you, and then
you consider and then you.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Consider Roger Craig, It's like, okay, like, well, where does
Roger Craig rank with Joe Montana's, the Brent Jones, the
Jerry Rice's, the John Taylor's, the Dwight Clark's, Like where
does he?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
But John Taylor isn't in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 7 (22:20):
Right And I would make that and I would make
the argument. And this is why I think, like on
offense to the Steelers, like Lynn Swan, it took forever
for him to get in, right like that, he was
such a huge part of what they did. I think
part of the problem Lindn Swan.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Had right like was that if you if.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
You look at what's happened the receiver position, the numbers
were so different back then, it became hard for people
to kind of conceptualize, Okay, how great was he? Roger
Craig to me was like a fore runner, you know,
like I always looked like at my era, right like
and growing up like thurmon Thomas was sort of the
fore runner for Marshall Falk right like where and now
(22:59):
you see a lot of backs like that, but that
wasn't that common back in the.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Day, right like, where you had the guy.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
He was right and Roger Christian McCaffrey like he's like
the multi.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Yeah, Roger Craig was the first thousand thousand player right
like a thousand yards. I think I think he was
a I think that's I think he was. So, you know,
Roger Craig was certainly like a fur runner for again,
in that genre of running back. If you want to
talk about impact in the game, I'm certainly there on that.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
So that's why the Seniors Committee.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Exists, you know, LeVar like, sometimes there are guys.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
That get lost in the shuffle and and you and
people need to take a second look at him. And
I think that that's what's good about the Seniors Committee.
You know, when then when guys do slip.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
Through the cracks that way, there is like a mechanism
in the in the in the whole process that that
that can force everybody to take.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
A second look.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
And I think both Else green Wood and Roger Craig
are really good candidate.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, perfect candidates. Just which else was there to be
able to enjoy it? Man?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, all right, Well, ab moment of truth.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you believe Albert Brier that at the end of
the Big Ten Championship game, this weekend that the Ohio
State Buckeyes will have beaten Indiana by more than four points.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, I will be there, and I'm gonna say, yes,
I'm excited to get out there. I think Brady, you're
going to be out there too, right.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll be out there. Are you coming
to top three?
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I didn't know. I didn't know because I think former
quarterbacks gotta be careful. And those those Indianapolis streets.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Oh wow, that's a low hanging fruit. Wow, that's low
hanging fruit.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Albert. First off, let me just say this, Okay, t
hanging fruit are.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Albert spends enough time during the combine in Indianapolish, he
spends enough time at the you know, during the combine
Indiapolis that I've seen him all right, Oh, many a knight,
many early mornings, and he's powered through. But he loves Indianapolis.
Don't let Albert twist.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
This, Okay, I'm a big fan of Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That yes he is haang, what does he say?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
In ab one of the one of the one of
the the the nation's pre eminent steak and shake locations
is right there. That's downtown, which I was I was
highly disappointed to find out that that that Steak and
Shake is no longer twenty four hours.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Just a really bad business decision by the executives there.
But uh, you know, you got Prime forty seven down there,
you got Almo's, you got Conrad.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I'm excited to get back out there. This is like
the first time I've gone on in a non combine
setting for in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So you know, we'll see what it's like out there
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I'm excited for you, excited for you, Abe. You should be.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
You should be.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
It's a big It's gonna be a big night.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Get him on X at Albert Breer.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
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of the things we talked about yesterday is the new
college football playoff rankings and it's kind of interesting how
all of a sudden Alabama has jumped Notre Dame based
on this weekend's results and why now that actually took place.
Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame, tried to
(30:31):
make sense of it with the media yesterday.
Speaker 10 (30:33):
A little bit of confusion.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
You're confused in terms of what we could have done differently, right,
and why we fell when we won forty nine to twenty.
I mean, we were up forty forty two to six
going in the fourth quarter, and that's the only thing.
And it's not a I don't I don't spend time
talking about other teams, but it's just like, Okay, what
(30:58):
could we have done differently?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Don't know? Very bizarre, very bizarre, the the whole well.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
And it's it's bizarre because, as I've said before, like
people won't acknowledge Notre name Stafford as a rivalry, but
you play for something, it's a rivalry.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
We play every single year.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
And as much as there's the tradition of Notre Dame
USC and you know, trading off even in odd years
when when which team goes where it actually is the
coincides with Stanford, you know, when we're not going to
sc during Thanksgiving at the end of the season and
we go to Stanford, and so those are always your
two California trips.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
It's been that way for a long time.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
And you know, I think there is probably more similarities
in regards to how Notre Dame and Stafford view themselves.
And so anyway, I bring that up because the committee
talked about, well, Albert or Alabama won a rivalry game
ors Alburn It's like, okay, but they damn near gave
up that game, whereas Notre Dame kind of like took
(31:58):
their foot off the gas and.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
The fourth quarter.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
And I also had, you know, some people who were saying, well,
and this is like a bigger picture conversation, is go
look at you know, Miami and Pitt and go look
at some of these other games and how long crystal
Ball is leaving in his starters and trying to run
up scores, which, mind you, a lot of teams are
doing that.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
I've had this conversation with urban Meyer when he talked
about the first year of the playoff when they were
ranked six, that they leaped frog both Baylor and TCU
back when the Big Twelve didn't have a conference championship game.
They literally had to keep scoring versus Wisconsin to convince
the committee they were one of the top four teams.
Now they ultimately were, and they end up winning a
national championship. But there's some of that going on right now.
(32:43):
And if you care about sportsmanchev, if you care about
any of that stuff, you know it's it's kind of
tough to watch. But I would just I would say this,
Do I think both Miami and.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Notre Dame are better than BYU? Yeah? I do. And
people can throw BYU's redsid may or whatever you want
to say.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
I'm sorry, Like I think any odds maker would also
have both those teams favored versus b YU. Also, I
think Notre Dame and Miami are probably better than Bama. Like,
we're letting Bama get the benefit of the doubt because
they play in the SEC, and if they lose this
week versus Georgia, I think most people feel like they're in.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
And I don't think that should be the case. I
really don't.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
Like we're talking about what would be a three loss
team who lost in the conference championship to you know,
a team that, like, again, if Ohio State is the
top of the college football world, and then you kind
of look at the SEC this year, the SEC doesn't
really have one dominant team. It was a m but
they played a softer schedule within the SEC this year,
a team that Notre Dame really basically beat, if not
(33:47):
for a botched pat and a terrible miscall in the
final play. So I just I kind of look at
it and say, like, do I think Miami and Notre
Dame are both two of the top teams in college football?
I do, But because of our format, you know, we
might be having you know, two group of six conference
champions getting a JMU in Tulane. And I'm also down
against the access of those smaller schools. But I do
(34:11):
think if we were going to expand, and we need
to expand because we're probably going to have a system
that leaves out some teams that probably could go on
a run and make it, and we're letting in potentially
a few teams who don't really have a shot whatsoever.
Like if UVA goes in, I'm sorry to people who
are Virginia fans. My sister went there and played soccer there.
I would I told her. I was like, they don't
(34:32):
have no shot at winning a national championship. They might
win the ACC and be duke, They're probably gonna be
a one and done once they get into the playoff.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
And it's like, that's the reality of where we're at.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
And I think there's a lot of people frustrated by
it because they want to see the best teams, the best,
you know, best games, and we don't have a format
really for that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right now, Your sister went to Virginia and played soccer too,
so like everybody in your family, d one athlete must
be nice, must be nice. Man, unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
So the uh, well, well, Notre Dame. What schools did
your family and you go to? Where did I'll go?
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Uh? Nowhere? TGI Friday's Tech.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
That's where I went.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
So uh So, y'all got to get a college education
to be a dope, dope radio host on your own
show in college.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's the American dream. Broum Lebron, so the uh.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
To the radio version of Lebron, it's.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
A lofty.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Uh no.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So the Notre Dame to make the Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
To make the college football playoff on DraftKings, what you say?
The odds are based on the most recent.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
College it's plus money plus minus four to make the playoff,
which is wild because like, I don't know that the
committee is going to see b YU out because because
again this is only the second year we've had the
twelve team playoff, but we haven't seen the committee penalized
(36:03):
teams who played in the conference championship weekend.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
SMU lost last year eleven to two represent the ACC.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
You know this, bar, that was the week first game,
and it's like they didn't penalize them, and granted, you
know that they were awful, Like let's be real, like
Penn State beat the crap out of them, but also
s mus not very good. You know, I think you'd
admit that too, Bar, Like.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
We had a great day. We had a great time
that day. I mean, yeah, I regret that.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Was that was probably you were happy about that that
seed like you knew.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
We're like, oh, yes, that's great.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I knew we were going to see whoever won between
you and Indiana. We knew that. Yeah, and think about sorry.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Teams are looking at Tilane.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
That's how teams are looking at JMU if they get in,
you know, it's it's like Old miss has it set up.
They've got a really, really easy path. So they need
to expand they need to figure out a way of
these these super com differences, either getting rid of the
conference championship game altogether because it's meaningless, and then have
(37:07):
playing games like right now, Clark.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Lee said it. He goes, hey, boys, we can go
play on two days. Notice.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
He's like, beer, keep your bags packed, let's go. Let's
go play Miamian. Let's go play a Notre Dame. Let's
go play another team in contention this weekend, so we
can prove that we're very you know, capable of being
in and being one of the best teams in the country.
Like that's how some of these coaches are handling this.
So I understand the frustration, but when it comes down
to it, like it's more of the system right now
(37:33):
that we've got than anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I mean, they're I mean, how many other teams outside
of Ohio, like the teams that would that you would
look at and say, that's a legitimate national champion possibility.
Notre Dame's on the short list, and they're they're possibly
going to be on the outside looking in without losing
(37:56):
in a couple of months. That's kind of strange, Like
they just the whole lots.
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Speaker 10 (39:07):
Dolly Parton could get that work.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Work Time to find out what's left towns Incredible. Here's
the left.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Over, kyler Y Ray, what have we got?
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Okay, bar This one is specifically for.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
You, Dolly Parton could get that work now.
Speaker 13 (39:24):
You may never want to fly again because Dolly Parton
has introduced Dolly's Tennessee and Travel Stop coming here in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
Six, Dolly part What does that mean?
Speaker 12 (39:34):
That work she's kind of making like a Boosy's.
Speaker 13 (39:36):
But it's starting in Tennessee, so it's going to be
family oriented, truck driver oriented, best stop that.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
You can find along the highway.
Speaker 13 (39:43):
So she's actually poised to bring jobs and attention to
under service communities across Tennessee and beyond.
Speaker 10 (39:50):
I mean, I thought you're saying could get that work.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
I thought you're saying she was going to be on
tour to trust that. Well, I would have been in
on that.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
I bet she's going to be at every open.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, but I don't want it to be family friendly.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
What do you want?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I mean you here to drop.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
Dolly Parton could get that work.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And it could happen out of truck stop.
Speaker 10 (40:11):
I might risk it.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I might risk it, Dolly Parton, I might risk it.
Speaker 10 (40:16):
Dolly Parton could get that work, all right, I get it.
Speaker 12 (40:21):
Truck stuffed Yeah, Oh my gosh, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
She is a lot wizard?
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Well, she's the one doing it. I didn't pick truck stops,
you did. I just don't want to be friendly, family friendly.
Speaker 13 (40:33):
Thing, but the family friendly Okay, So I actually sent
you guys a little thing on Instagram yesterday in case
you saw it. Exciting things are coming for major League Baseball.
Speaker 12 (40:41):
You know, Vegas just trying to up.
Speaker 13 (40:43):
The ante on their sports venue extraordinaiy over there yesterday
the day before yesterday, now, the A's displayed a mini
model of their new ballpark that will be the focal
point of their ballpark Experience Center in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It looked like a baseball cup, you know, like your
training cup looks like the thing you put in your
jockstrap protection.
Speaker 12 (41:10):
You saying it, No, it looks like a spaceship.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
To me, it looks like a cup.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
You've never played football, Jotok, you clearly don't know what
a couple looks like. Look at that picture, a couple
of look at that picture, and look at what.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't really look at a lot of cups. To
be honest, it's not my thing.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
It reminded me Jonas.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
It wasn't like I was looking for, like, Oh, this
looks like something that.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Like I got to look at.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
By the way, if anybody's wondering, Justin Cooper is still awake.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
He just randomly sent me.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
That that good.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Let's just put it this way.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Coop's got new respect for Miles Garrett's put that.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
That's what that was?
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, what else?
Speaker 6 (42:05):
We galleda?
Speaker 13 (42:07):
We got like ten seconds left, but me and Patty
are going to Disneyland tonight.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
Oh right, enjoy go
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