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In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys wonder if Phillip Rivers should maybe comeback one more year if he performs well enough. Plus, the guys chat with Dean Blandino, have some fun with the leftovers, and more!

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(01:14):
So we've been discussing the big stories in the world
of football, both involving the states of California and Indiana. Now,
last night we had a Monday night football game. The
forty nine ers went in and really put it on
the Colts. Indianapolis is reeling. They need all sorts of

(01:35):
things to happen to get into the postseason. San Francisco's
on their way to the postseason. They clinched on Sunday
with the result on Sunday Night football, and so you're
watching the result of the Lions loss. Rather so you're
watching the Niners do what they did, and then everyone's
kind of looking over on the other side, going man
Philip Rivers is out there dealing. He's slinging it on

(01:58):
Monday night football in prime time. And he spoke not
only about where he's at mentally when it comes to
all this, but you know, there's no no happy endings
unless you get to the postseason start winning some games.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Here was the quarterback of the Colts.

Speaker 6 (02:13):
I'm torn of how to express it because it's been
a blast. It's been a blast to prepare and to
go steak and get ready and go out there and
warm up and do all that with these guys again.
But again, the name of the game is not you know,
go have a good time. It's helped find a way
to lead your.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Team to win. And we've come up short here these first.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Two, but I've been a part of less percentage chances
of getting in and got in before. So you'll certainly
won't hear me losing hope here as we prepare next week.
This is the National Football League, and you've all dreamed
of playing in this game as a kid. And if
someone asked you again, you know, would you play if
you all were going to be four and two and
fourteen like some of these teams are, if you had

(02:50):
two games left?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Heck, yeah, what do you mean?

Speaker 6 (02:51):
We get to play an NFL football game again? So
I think those are the two simplest routes to say.
But it's the first and foremost our job to go seeking. Uh,
you know, do the work we've been asked to do,
and and you know we've come up short. But what
we've been asked to do is give our best effort,
and so that's what has to be done. Uh, you know, Uh,
these next few days of preparation, which on a short

(03:12):
week with with Christmas on Thursday, and and then a
division opponent that's on fire right now, so we'll have
to bounce.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Back in a hurry.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Guy just doesn't curse. I think t Bow's cursed more
than him.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
But he's a great trash talker. He was getting it in,
you know, in the game, like, man, you shut your
pie hole.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
You shut your pie hole all the way up, or
I'll close it for you. You ever have a pie hole
closed for you?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Man, I'll do you. I do you really bad.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
You're cruising for a bruising buster your crew, you're cruising
for straight bruising.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's some country cursing if I ever heard it.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
Golly, you want to do it, I'll put this boot
in your your backside, Like all right, you know what
it must work because historically speaking, when you hear of
Philip Rivers and his.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
Exploits of trash talk are really you know, they're they're
well documented.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So has he shown enough to warrant coming back next year?

Speaker 8 (04:18):
Oh, y'all used Hall of Fame earlier, Qus hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Now you're using coming back next year? Well, he was
a semi finalist for the Hall of Fam this year.
Oh yeah, he was in it. Well not no more so.

Speaker 8 (04:31):
Oh man, I listen, here's what I say, clearly where
things are now, with how much the physicality of the
game is being legislated out of it, and the idea
of it for him to have an entire off season

(04:52):
knowing that he's going to have the opportunity to possibly
potentially be a backup that would be available if if
need be, which seemingly for the Colts, that that could
be a strong possibility that he ends up finding his
way back in there. I think as a starter, I
think that that's a that's a tall task. But as

(05:16):
a backup and in an entire offseason to kind of
get himself prepared, I'm not so sure that he wouldn't
be able to do that and feel in the way
he probably feels after getting two games under his belt.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I wonder if he has any interest in being a backup.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, I think that's the question because he's he's coming
back to play, and I'm sure that was the conversation
with Shan Steichen when they initially reached out to him.
He wasn't going to come in there and just sit
around the bench. You know, he'd probably rather go be
around his family as kids, coaching, et cetera. So clearly
this was this was a very targeted like, Hey, if

(05:55):
you come here and you're physically able to, we are
going to start you in play. Like that's where we're at.
And I don't know that that opportunity is going to
be there. In fact, I would almost assuredly say it's
not going to be there next year as a starter.
It will be there, I believe as a backup, because
there is such a you know, a lack of you

(06:15):
know time that the coaches spending with these young quarterbacks
to develop them. On top of that, every time I
call a game, and especially when there's a combination of
a young player and a veteran, they just they always
talk about the importance of that veteran's impact on the
young quarterback, the veteran when they get in there being
able to operate the offense. I mean, I'll just be

(06:38):
very blunt. You know, Kirk Cousins, who you know, just
won a football game playing in Atlanta. You know, his
arms not what it used to be. He obviously has
never really been able to move that well. But he's
sure at this point his career is not moving at all.
I mean, he drops back, he's at that spot, he's
throwing the football from the spot in the pocket, or
he's getting sacked with the ball, he's getting out for incomplete.

(06:59):
You know, that's that's basically what it is. And but
one of the things he brings is the ball goes
to where it should go. You know, he is dissecting
what the defense is doing. He understands what their concept is,
and the ball is being delivered to where it needs
to go. And you saw that last night with Philip Rivers.
For the most part, like the ball is going to

(07:20):
where it needs or should be going. He's getting them
in the right play. He understands whether it's you know,
the run game and the fronts and the coverages and
everything that comes along with that. That makes sense. And
that's one of the things that young quarterbacks are having
a really hard time right now adapting into in the NFL.
And I could go on like this long winded conversation

(07:41):
about it, but it honestly starts at the grassroots level
of little league football. How we're teaching quarterbacks to play quarterback.
We have taken away a Snapphonder Center. We have forced
these young kids now to at a young age, instead
of reading the defense and understand what their responses are
as a quarterback, to simply catch.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
The football and look around and make a throw. And
you're not taught the.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Right way at a young age anymore, and it leaks
all the way up into junior high or they start
running RPOs and that's the simplest form of asking someone
back there to play quarterback, and then it translates into
the high school level. And so it's a byproduct of
what the sport of football has done at multiple levels

(08:31):
and not teaching these young men how to play quarterback.
And they get to the NFL and it's an entirely
different game and they've played their entire life, and the
decisions have to be made in two two and a
half seconds and they have to be able to know
where they're going to go with the football the right
spot consistently, and so many are struggling to do it.
And if they can't rely on their physical attributes to

(08:51):
run or move or get outside the pocket to buy
more time to make that decision.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
They struggle.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So will there be a place for Philip rivers as
a backup without a day out. You know, does he
want to do that?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I have no idea.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
Yeah, that would be the biggest question if he's willing
to be a backup, which why.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Wouldn't you be?

Speaker 8 (09:08):
Again, he's starting because two starters went down, right, I mean,
if I can had my bets like, oh, I would
love to play and I'd love to start. If I
don't have a starting position, I still get the opportunity
to be on the team and be a part of

(09:29):
this and have the benefits of it. And if I
need to be in the game starting at some point,
there's a chance I will get an opportunity to start,
and for.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
What it's worth.

Speaker 8 (09:41):
You know, the wise bull told the young bull, you know,
let's walk down and get them all. Like let's not
let's not run down and get one. Let's walk down
and get them all. And that's that's kind of to me.
He's an old bull, you know, don't there's no reason
to run down into the pastor like take your time.
And those ones that are running down they won and done.

(10:03):
They added there, and then it's set up for him
to possibly be able to do what he's doing right
now except being in game condition, being in condition to play,
not just walking off of the street or walking off
of the football field coaching. He's actually a part of
the team now. That would be if he really wanted

(10:23):
to play. If he doesn't want to really really play,
and he just wants to get in there, you know,
in moments like these where you're just right outside of
the playoff season and you want to try to do
that in that manner, that's a different conversation. But if
the answer to you, if I'm answering your question, Jonas,
does this mean he plays next year? I think the

(10:46):
best approach to it is is to have an off
season and come back with the idea that I'll be
a backup until I'm needed as a starter.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
That'd be feasible. Well, let me ask you guys this
the two things. One, why would he not just go
back to doing what he was doing if a team
really needs and they call him and they're in this
exact same situation.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Now, it takes a unique team and situation because he
knows Shan Styke and he talks toone weekly. They're running
the same system with the team he's coach, and he
played there, so that's unique in and of itself. But
I think the other conversation about, you know, would he
be willing to be a backup? Is this is a
guy who's view as a Hall of Famer, right, I mean,

(11:25):
he's a semi finalist for it. I believe he'll eventually
get voted in. How many Hall of Famers do you
know play backup at the end of their career. Do
you know any of that decided to say I'm willing
to just be a backup and sail off into the sunset?
Like I kind of feel like the guys who were
Hall of Famers when they're done, they're done and they

(11:45):
move on.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, even when like Joe Montana, you know, left to
go to Kansas City, that was because they decided they
were going to go with Steve Young and He's like,
I don't want to be a backup here, I want
to go start. So he ended up with the Chiefs. Yeah,
I can't, And it's a good point. I can't think
of anybody that that just kind of wrote off into
the sunset on the bench.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
It's not something I tried to commit to memory or
even researched. But you know, regardless of at which it's
a valid point possibly.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't know. I don't have the information on that,
but I was asked.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean there's been some like edge rushers, right, like
situational edge rushers maybe, but quarterback I don't think there
has been.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
All I would say is is if you want to
be a part of the game and you're enjoying being
around it, and you got this opportunity to get back
into it the way that he did, I don't see
there being and why would there be an issue with it.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
You are a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
That's not going to change whether you're being a backup
waiting for or not even waiting for, just assisting in
the opportunity to possibly play and contribute. I just don't
I don't see that being an issue. If you want
to play, you know it comes for us all the
ultimate end to you being a starter or you being

(13:06):
the main focus of the team. It comes to an
end for everybody that plays the game. So if you
have an opportunity, like Philip Rivers, it's a very unique opportunity.
I think you got to take a unique stance on it.
You found your way back into the league, you're wanted
by a team, the team took you on. You got
a contract and you're starting. If that's not what it

(13:29):
is the next year after, you do have liberties and
you do have privileges that a Hall of Fame, you know,
bound guy would have. I would be eating steaks. I
would be hanging out, mentoring guys, having a good time

(13:49):
and taking it all in one more time.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know when it's over. I can't believe I'm here,
but I am, and I'm doing this.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
This is crazy after five years years Uh this being
year six of it.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Uh, out of your mouth. You gotta go in.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
I'd be right there on the sideline, straight stogy, straight stogy,
straight stogy.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
It might be weedy too now every every everything is.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Is on on the table these days, man, I might
have a straight up gunja gunja session out that joint
like you know, I don't know, but i'd.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Be right there, ready to go.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
I'm gonna respect the game, I'm gonna respect my teammates,
but at the same time, I'm going to enjoy the
fact that I get to enjoy this from a different perspective,
a different point of view. You know, it's very different
when you're old, you're older, vet like the league feels different.
And listen, I didn't play very long, but but year

(14:48):
six and seven for me was very different than year one,
one through three, one through four. It was very different
in the way I view things. So if I was
in like of fifteen twenty year career, I can't even
imagine what I'd be feeling like at at year ten,
year fifteen, year, seventeen.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Year eighteen. I don't know how I feel, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
I know I probably feel a lot more subdued and
a lot more relaxed than what I did from the
other moments in my career. So you know, it just depends.
It all depends on what he's looking for.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, I mean, think about it this way.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
The average career spent in the NFL is like three years,
maybe a little over that.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
So when you.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Get to that year, you know, five, year, six, year seven,
it's it's a small portion of the league, like on
every roster that's been around that long.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now they've they've changed some of.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
The eligibility rules where you see older veteran players who
can qualify for the practice squad. Back when we played,
you know, once you yeah, well once you once you
played enough or on the active roster enough you were
essentially prohibited from playing the practice squad.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
So you had some guys who are brought up.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, some guys who are brought up and they won't
even be active some days, but because they're on the
active roster, right like they just they did not qualifying,
So you actually cut out a big portion of the league,
and maybe even harder back then. Today they've actually made
it easier to hang around, not necessarily always make the
active roster and be a part of that, but it's
still relatively low.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I mean, if you think you.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
Get credit as a practice roster guy these days, I mean,
because well you're not as an acredited squad right now.
See that's the thing that's the key. If I'm coming
back as a VET, I'll be damn if you keep
me on the practice squad. I'm not getting and I'm
not getting any credit for being here and doing what
I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Like you could forget that.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I get that, but I think it's it's a window
into like being able to have that shot and then yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Can rank me up.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
If I'm Philip Rivers, you bring me in as a
practice squad guy, or if I'm a vet and you
bring me in as a practice squad guy to ramp
me up, Like, I got no problem with that. But
if you're planning on keeping me there, and I know
I'm not going to clear waivers, ain't nobody else coming
from my old ass.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I'm not passing around like that.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
Hey, you know, I mean listen, you make some good
money that you wouldn't make otherwise, so you could look
at it that way, like you're making some appearances, but
don't expect me to be on no next level type stuff.
I'm gonna be out there, like y'all said, I'm gonna
have some sunglasses on in practice.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I have a bag of weed, Am I am? I
practice socks I was. I'm gonna be standing out.

Speaker 8 (17:27):
I'm gonna have some backwoods and the other one I'm
gonna be rolling up. They're gonna be like, what's the
O g over there doing? Man?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
The best is you know the dudes that come around
and check for the uniform violations like pregame and stuff throughout.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
The game, They'll be extending there. They ericton. Give me
a little of that, man, You a little head. What
you got that sock man? What you need? Man? I
got so I got some purple. Hey, what you need
that's one of the girls spots.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
What you need about uh, that particular group because those
guys are former players, right, was that you're experience in
being those guys?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, Merton was when I was there, when I was playing.
But they'd always come and like, dap you up and
be like what's up? By man? They give you a
five thousand dollars five.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, the usually they'd warn you. They'd be like, hey, man,
my man, you know hey, you know what you know.
I don't want to do this, you know, you know
I got to though, that's just that's just just get
those socks up for me, all right, man, Just make
sure you get Hey, hey, hey, I need to see
a little more like you have to pull that little man.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I need to see a little bit more white that white.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
See that need and see that I see that need
and then pay some jersey. You know, you know me,
you know me. I don't know me, man, do.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
This, yeah, I know me, but I got to do this.
Come on, man, how's the wife and kids? Everybody?

Speaker 9 (18:37):
Good?

Speaker 10 (18:37):
Man?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, you guys get.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
Then you get a check like oh, like all right,
and it's light your your check is lighter, like, what
is going on here?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh you had a uniform valu man.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Then then the whole conversation after that is a whole
different too. Though you see them after they got you
like what you doing?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Man? Like, come on, bro, I thought we was boys, Like, hey, man,
I got a job to do.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Five thousand dollars for a sock being down too low?

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Well it's like it was twenty five hundred, but still
was very twenty five dollars. Come on, I would double
down though, So it gets double right if you do
it again after you get to it again, Yeah, yes,
they double this.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
And the crazy part is what some players have done.
And well we can get into mouthguards, like like one
of my observations from bull season has been there's just
mouthguards everywhere, Like there's mouthguards all over the field, and
I'm going, what what is going on? Like guys got
em plugged into the top of their helmet. There's some
there's some of the receivers, for like an m had

(19:38):
two on their face mask and they're not and by
the way, they're not wearing any of them. They're just
on their face mask. None of them are actually putting
them in their mouth. To use the mouthguard the right way,
and so like, even the ESPN broadcast is having a
hard time discerning if it was a flag or just
a mouthguard laying there in the field. And it's it's
got to the point where you do wonder if course

(20:00):
it's going to be like, dude.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
You guys, you can't wear them.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
They're not an accessory either put in your mouth or
like you got to leave the field.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, the one on wild the one in the top
of the helmet, I don't get it looks like something
you get out of a claw machine because.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
They got these new they got the new dips out
like you could put your You didn't have that type
of stuff when you had airs and ride. Dal's like,
why do you technology?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Why do you got to stick anything in it?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, well you got all these holes you gotta plug. Well,
these dudes keep just mess putting stuff in the hole.
Just just plug the hole. Some people take it too literal,
you know, Yeah, well I know that on the field.
They can't help it.

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now it's time to welcome in a Tuesday tradition here
on the show.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
He's the one and only Dean.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football Rules Analyst. If you're
feeling frisky, you can get him on x at Dean
Blandino and he joins you here. Now it's nice, Deenough Jonas,

(24:59):
good morning enough. It just wasn't good enough. I just
I feel like Deane should have got better than that.
It's too casuals. I don't want to insult uh, you know,
his heritage by doing some candy ass Italian impression. I
can do it, though, I can dust it off and
go again.

Speaker 10 (25:15):
I mean you don't want to now, right, right?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Right right?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I mean better late than ever though? Correct?

Speaker 8 (25:31):
Well, yeah, now you see what I do. I deal
with on a daily basis, you know, yeah, yeah, thank you.
I'm glad somebody called it out.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
When also say it sounds like NFL officiating, like they spend.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Doing it one way. Then we get to the playoffs,
so like, well, we want to make this small, simple change,
subtle change. We're just going to do it now, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Now we're going to implement that. Like remember the hip
drop tackle. Yeah, remember hip drop tackle. There's been a
few instances where I'm been like, oh, that's a hip
drop and that just all of a sudden's not getting
caught anymore.

Speaker 10 (26:06):
Huh No, that hasn't getten caught. I think it's gone
called twice all year and ever since they made the
hip drop tackle a thing, I watch games and I'm like,
I see like seventy three of them. I'm like, oh,
that's hip drop, that's hip drop. Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Are are they like regretting that rule or putting it
in place, because then they've realized now that it was
it was just a reaction to guys getting injured when
it's a way that guys tackle every single weekend.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, well, I think the health and safety people probably
don't regret it. But and there's been fines, and there's
been you know, post games. Yeah, it's been a dress
post game. But still, like I just we've talked about it.
I don't know how there's certain situations where it's just
it's impossible to avoid that.

Speaker 8 (26:49):
Dan, I'm of the mindset when I watch these games,
obviously people say every single play can be a penalty
and multiple penalties.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
When you look.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
At it from the standpoint of being an expert and
analyzing it and stuff like that, what like, what's your
thought process, what's your approach to to how you break
it down, because it seems like it's simple to say, Okay, well,
cite this this penalty, cite this foul, cite that uh, and.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Then discuss it. But I mean from from.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
A reality standpoint, where does that line of a perception
to being a professional on how you do it? Where
is that line for you? Like what are you looking for?
Can you like take our listeners through what you're looking
for versus what maybe a layman is looking at when
they're watching the games.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Well, there's there's something that you know, I learned early
on and people taught me and I was always talking
to with officials about you gotta call the foul that
we have to call, not the ones that we could
and the ones like what what we mean by that
is the ones that you could. It's like, okay, I
see it by by rule if you strict interpretation of

(28:04):
the rule, Okay, we can defend that. But does that
is that really the intent of the rule is that
what we want? Is that going to have an impact?
Are we really affecting the game positively? Where the calls
that have to be made, whether that's player safety, whether
that's the you know, the significant obvious one that is
going to have an impact on the applem of the game,
those are the ones you have to get. There's you know,

(28:28):
there's a lot that goes on. There's twenty two players.
You know, there's stuff that happens before the snap, but
during the play, after the play, and officials have to
make a lot of decisions. But again, it's got it's
got to have an impact, it's got to jump out.
Those styles should really call themselves. And you certainly don't
want officials being overly technical. Nobody's gonna want to watch

(28:48):
a game where there's a flag every other play and
and so that's kind of where you kind of where
you want to draw that line and how you want
to direct the game officials to to officiate the game.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So,
I wanted to go back to last Thursday, the two
point conversion in Seattle. It was crazy, and you know,
Mike Florio did an article talk and he actually gave
you a shout out.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
You know that there was.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
The delay seemed to be what the issue was for
Sean McVay, the rams. So how does that get sped up?
Like how do we get to the point because it
also seemed like there was a significant delay in the
Lions Steelers play conclusion and at what point, like how
does that get cleaned up to where we're not having

(29:37):
to wait around for so long and guys are lined
up for a kickoff only to find out no, it
actually was a full recovery in the end zone for
a two point conversion.

Speaker 10 (29:46):
Well, Thursday, I mean that play was so crazy and
such a unique play. Now, ultimately, the way they applied
the rule in replay was correct. But it, like you said,
it took Trevor, there's no reason. There's no way other
than than they didn't look at it right away, and
then finally something clicked to be like, wait a minute,
if that passes backward, who recovered it? Okay, Seattle recovered it?

(30:10):
Where did they recover it in the end zone? By rule,
that recovery would count and that would be a two
point try. So there's no reason for that to take
that long. You're immediately one of the things you go
through after play in replace, you look at all the
reviewable aspects of the play. You identify them. What, okay,
forward backward passes reviewable? Let's look at it. Is it forward?
If it is, we'll hits the ground. Look good. If

(30:32):
it's not, it's backward. Okay, who recovered it? That should
have happened immediately. There's no reason that both teams should
be lining up for the kickoff, and now somebody says
something finally and we get that process started. And then
and then the end of the Lion Steelers game. Right again,
there's a flag down. Yes, replay is going to look

(30:53):
at that. Okay, was was goth down? Was a mon
Rod down before he flipped the ball to goth You
know what? What? What's the clock? But again, that shouldn't
take very long. They should be an announcement right away.
You know, the previous places on the further review, the
ruin have a field, a touchdown, we have a flag
down for offensive patsmens whatever it is. That's where it
gets confusing. That's where people are sitting there wondering what

(31:16):
the heck is going on. I think right now there's
a lot of people in those officials ears, there's a
replay booth. There's like seven people in New York, and
it feels like right now, in some of those situations,
those crazy situations, it's like people are scrambling and there's
nobody there to kind of slow things down and say,
wait a minute, here's what we're going to do. And
I think that's what happened in both of those situations.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, so on that point one of the things that's
become a little bit confusing.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
And then behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Like you guys do such a good job with your videos,
and I think you brought this up either last week
or two weeks ago, but then even this past week
in the Philly Wash that game, there's the replay assistant
and then you see Dan Quinn, I believe.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Challenged it and send it now.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, which talk to us and help educate us on
the review process, like the replay assist, And then where
does it go if they're challenges?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Is that good in New York and there's someone else
in New York?

Speaker 10 (32:08):
Yeah? So so replay assist is the replay official in
the stadium, in the replay booth, and and the way
they look at that is that's an extension of the
on field officials. Whereas if there's a tight catch no
catch at the sideline, and the officials get together and
they will catch, and the replay official at the stadium

(32:29):
sees that it's clearly the second but it's clearly out
of bounds. They're going to they're going to communicate right away.
You know, hey, guys, we've got an incomplete pass and
then the referee will get on the on the mic
and just say that we're on the field is an
incomplete pass, that's replay assist. That should happen very quickly
when it's very obvious if a coach, and that's still challengeable,

(32:50):
you know, like Dan Quinn, did We've seen that happen,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, Andy Reid did
challenged one it. Once it goes to review, then that
decision is made. Back in New York, there's a group
of of of supervisors. There's there's two or three people
that can make decisions there, and one of those people

(33:11):
are going to be on the headsets at that time
because the game is stopped talking to the referee looking
at the video and making that decision. So that's kind
of a difference between those two those two processes, Dan.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
We saw what happened with DK metcalf in the game.
Has ever been a flag of dis uh what what
is it? Disorderly or or what what what's it called?

Speaker 9 (33:37):
Like?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (33:38):
Yeah, unsportsmanlike conduct? Yeah, there we go, Like, has there
ever been one throwne for interaction between a player and
a fan?

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Has that ever happened? Is that even in the rule book,
two happen.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
Yeah, that's it's so not that I can remember now,
But fans are not subject to the playing rules, and
so that that's not remember I don't know. Way back,
like thirty years ago, used to have a crowd noise rule.
What the crowd got too loud, the quarterback, right, the
visiting team quarterback would step back and look at the
referee and be like, it's too loud, and the referee

(34:13):
would give warnings and then would flag. And that became
a joke because when you tell the crowd, hey, be quiet,
what are they going to do loud? They're going to
be louder. So so fans are not subject to the
playing rules, you know. That's a that's a security issue,
that say so. So not that the officials would have
seen that anyway, but but interaction with the fans is

(34:35):
something separate from the officials jurisdiction. Obviously the league can
take and they did with the two game suspension, but
that's not something that the officials can get involved in.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Like I had a ball boy try to start a
fight with me at a game this year and the
official and the official got involved, Like not the official
in the game.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
But the official that was on.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
Like the league guide, like the Hague, like like reprimanded them.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
And I don't know, I don't know if that could
have left.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
But in my mind, I don't don't A ball boy, well,
I mean as a college kid, a kid, I mean,
he's a college guy.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Start.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
Start.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I did not get into a fight. He tried to
start one. Like so what did he say? It doesn't matter.
I don't want to go into the details asking a question. No, no,
what he was doing?

Speaker 10 (35:36):
What?

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Well, here's what he was doing. A big play took
place at a very very big moment in the game,
and he started running down the sideline, taunting our sideline,
taunting the guys on the side. It was a lot
of explicitives that were coming out.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Y'all could take.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
That, Like no, it was like it was more like, yeah, yeah,
if y'all y'all af that, Yeah, here we go. And
I found myself. I found myself good one. I found
myself further closer to the field at that point in
the direction he was running, and he just kind of

(36:19):
he bumped into me. He bumped, he ran into me,
and and it created a close would into you, I
mean I wasn't close until I saw him.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
So you got in his way? Yeah, I did good.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
Somebody needed to you know, so I did anyway, he
he he, He kept going though, like he didn't want
to stop, like he wanted to boyfri Indiana.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
No, it wasn't a ball boy for Indiana. Actually it
was U C l A was l A and then didn't.

Speaker 10 (37:01):
Well for probably, I mean that that was the that
was the the bottom, right, that was the rock bottom.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
So that was bottom. It wasn't actually was Northwestern it was.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
It was the next week. Yeah, next week was rock bottom.
I mean for me, for me, it was. But it's
nonetheless he was in the wrong.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
He was in the Dean.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You have to understand Levar's got in a fight with
a gas and oxygen tank and parallel.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
Now for you, I picked my fights wisely, unlike Jake Paula.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
That is true.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Just pick my fights wisely. It's like DK Metcalf with mine.

Speaker 10 (37:47):
Dan.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Now before I let you go, uh quickly any any
Christmas traditions?

Speaker 4 (37:52):
What's what's the plan?

Speaker 10 (37:54):
I appreciate you trying to be a professional, because there's
no coming back from that conversation. There's like, so what
do you think of the past appearance in the in
the packers, Like it's not happening. It's all I'm thinking
about this boy.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
Or the two point conversion. You know how you get
that two point conversion? You know that happened.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Hey Dean, we're doing the Seven Fishes tomorrow. Mine laws
are coming in town. Uh do you do you do
you support that?

Speaker 10 (38:20):
Of course I support that? Right, make sure how the
music plays.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I mean, yeah, what's seven fish?

Speaker 10 (38:26):
Christmas Eve is as big, you know with the Italians
as Christmas Day. You know, it's the whole big thing.
It's there's a there's there's a lot we could get into.
You know. I wish LaVar wouldn't have hijacked the conversation
with I'm sorry, but maybe maybe next week, maybe next week.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Feast of the Seven Fishes.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Merry Christmas, Thank you brother, appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (38:48):
Merry Christmas. Guys.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is it like seven different species of fish?

Speaker 5 (38:53):
What?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Seven different types of fish?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, there's some like more traditional servings, but like you know,
most of the kids and stuff, what.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
He so, it'll be seven fish more kind of geared
towards what we're eating.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Oh yeah, that sounds so fun.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
When you said the jape.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Paul of What said, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
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and Paralympic sport, why don't you try fencing. It's fast,
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Speaker 3 (40:26):
Time to find.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Out what's left tons of incredibles.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Here's the left.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Over the hylearerie?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
What do we got?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (40:34):
My goodness. So we know the Chiefs are moving to Kansas.
They might be trying to move into the position of
being America's team. They will be making history by receiving
one point eight billion dollars in public money for their
new three billion dollars stadium.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Well that makes sense. I'd be more than half it's
paid for. There you go.

Speaker 12 (40:55):
That is the largest public thing in sports history, the
largest US sport stadium projects.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Uh yeah, so that's where our taxes.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Have been going.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Just so you guys know.

Speaker 12 (41:05):
Also, the owners of the Chiefs have over twenty four
billion dollars of their own money. Just pointing that out.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I mean you mean they're net worth is twenty four billion. Yeah, yeah,
that's we taxpayer funded.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
But yeah, too bad, they're not going to be good anymore.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, how money for that? You should have did that
earlyer Hey, sorry, justot out letting people know. Sheesh, maybe
they need to rethink that vote.

Speaker 8 (41:45):
If you'll think that vote, you don't out, you don't
rethink that about.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
What else we got?

Speaker 10 (41:51):
Ray?

Speaker 12 (41:51):
Ray Well Cowboys Trevon Diggs is in the news. He
was back playing this past weekend for the first time
since October after he suffered a concussion. Concussion he didn't
say what caused it, so there was a lot of
rumors going around, but he finally addressed it. He said
he was trying to be a handyman installing a TV
on the ceiling and the mounted pole came down and
smacked him in the head and that's why he was out.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
That was the pole.

Speaker 12 (42:17):
What pole were you thinking?

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Sounds that.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Cling?

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Let me pet that dog.
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