January 6, 2026 • 43 mins
In Hour 3 of the show, the guys chat it up with Dean Blandino as we gear up for the wildcard week of the NFL. Plus, the guys make sense of Tua Tagovailoa wanting a fresh start, another fun edition of the Leftovers, and more!
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two pros FSR and subscribe. So obviously there was black
Monday coaches got the acts. We know, Pete Carroll, Jonathan Gannon,
Kevin Stefanski all gone. One guy that remains is Mike McDaniel.
He is still there. He said he will be part
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of help with the GM search. So apparently Troy Aigman's
criticism of him, you know, during a Monday night game
a few weeks back, Mike McDaniel appears to be safe.
Where it gets interesting is his quarterback to a takabay Iloa.
He was at his locker yesterday and a couple of
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media members kind of walked up to him and said,
you know, two you know, are you hoping for a
fresh start? And he said, quote that would be dope.
I would be good with it. Barry Jackson, who covers
the Miami Dolphins, said, the three of us who asked
him made sure he knew that we meant somewhere else,
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and he very politely declined to speak beyond that. So
I don't know if that means that that Tua is
going to be elsewhere when it's all said and done,
But I would have thought that he would see this
considering his history with Brian Flores and how everything went down,
I would have assumed that he would realize this is
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probably the best opportunity he's got with an organization that's
already paid him and a coach that has had success
with him. That coach is still there, he probably would
have to maybe compete. As Mike McDaniel said, there's going
to be a quarterback competition next year. I just wonder
if this means that they're embracing for a change or
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they're just looking at this as a full blown competition.
It's going to be Quinn yours versus Tua in training
camp next year. How do you guys see it?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I think they're gonna try to trade too, if they
could find an offer for them, and that offer may
come with them having to pay a good portion of
what the extension they signed them to, and uh, hopefully there,
I should say, for their sake, hopefully they get some
draft you know, capital back in return if they are
going to pay a good portion of that contract. I mean,
that's that's kind of how it works nowadays, is if
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you can find a team that's willing to give up
on a guy, and the heck they're already gonna pay
him anyway that they can get some decent draft capital
back in return. Okay, like that, they'll they'll most likely
do the trade, do the deal. I don't think they're
gonna cut them. Don't think they would release them. They'd
be a lot of money on their dead cap. So
I think they try to find a trade part if
they could, and go that direction. But it feels like,
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and there's multiple plays that I was gonna be like this.
It felt like in Arizona two, if they weren't going
to move on from Jonathan Gannon, they were going to
move on from Yler Murray. Now it feels like maybe
they move on from both, or at least maybe they
want to keep kyl I Murder to see what the
next head coach would want to do. And in the
case of Miami, you know you brought in Mike McDaniel
to get the most out of two. I think you
have gotten the most out of him. The problem is
can't stay healthy. So because of that, it feels like
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they want to make a change. If they're not gonna
change with McDaniel, then they're probably gonna change with Tua.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't first let me just start by saying it's unfortunate,
but he is damaged goods. I mean, you just got
to look at it at face value. I don't think
the value, No, I don't. I wouldn't say he's touched
and just say he's you know, he's seems like he's
a good dude. He just found himself in a situation
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where concussions and maybe a few other things I don't know,
maybe a lack of belief from Flores early on. It's
just certain things that could have possibly potentially made things
difficult for him long term. In Miami. I think him
and Mike McDaniel, they got off to a really solid start.
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But I just think that the concussions deal is the
biggest piece of the story with Tua. So a fresh start,
I don't think there is a such thing as a
fresh start for him at this point, and that just
has to be a reality that he, you know, he embraces.
What is next. I don't know if I'm another team,
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I'm not giving up anything for Tua. I just don't
know what I'm going to put to you like this.
I do believe I know what I'm getting when I
get Tua, and for that I just can't see myself
giving up any real capital to get them. And so
I think he's He's in a good position because he's
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got his contract. Miami's in the compromising position because they
have to figure out what to do with them. And
Q you just mentioned, I mean, why would you just
get rid of them and just take the dead cap it?
So you bring them back and you see if he
can compete for the job. But now going into this season,
it's there's a clarity and understanding that you're not the starter.
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You have to win the position. You're not just the incumbent.
You have to win the position. You're going to have
to compete to be the guy that starts for this team.
And I think that that's a little bit different than
what it has been for him, And I think that's
a reality that he has to accept.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
You don't think they would like a team would give
up a conditional third and a sixth or something for Tua.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Again, is it possible? I guess anything's possible. Is it sensible?
Is it realistic? I would probably err on the side
of no. I would not think that that is feasible
just looking at what the potential of of him being
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to to your your team. I just don't I don't
see it. I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Who would be the team that would make some sense
if that's the case, Like we're looking at teams that
I mean, look a lot of the speculation. I think
the betting odds have Brian Flores is the favorite to
get the Raiders job. So that would take the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Raiders off, eliminate the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They're they're out of the conversation. I mean, it's not
going to be anybody in the a f C North.
I would maybe the Browns. I don't know, Like I
don't know if the Browns want to give up and
go down that road with Deshaun Watson, even though that's
coming on. I just I don't know how many good
options there are the Browns. I'm just looking around the
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a FC like teams that need quarterbacks. Indianapolis that's a
log jam, and and that's a logjam. Oh no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Don't. I just said that's a ride at Kennywood and
I love those rides. Yeah, sit in the log get wet.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm just I don't know what, like where it makes
Minnesota if you want to create some competition with for
a JJ McCarthy, which I think they want to do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Man, it doesn't seem like there's if he comes, let's
just fast forward. He gets signed by a team. Let's
it doesn't matter what the team is. He gets signed
by the team, he comes walking through the door. What
do you think the first thing everybody's inside the doors
are saying, from the secretary to the media people, to
the coaching staff, to the scouting department, to everybody. What
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do you think they're saying a minute they see to
a walk through the door, don't hit him in the head. Okay,
something to that effect, helmet, something to that effect. That's right.
Why do you want that coming through your doors?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I mean, okay, okay, Then if you want to use
that discussion, could you say the same thing about a
head coach taking the New York Giants job with the
concern over Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean, if it gets too windy, they're gonna take
him into the blue tent and check his head out.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And by the way, he's like, he takes some hits,
takes some hits, and it's not even just the ones
that we know he's had. He was evaluated several times
because they're like, yeah, something's off.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
That's why what I'm saying is not a joke. I
mean it literally, He's been evaluated at least five times,
maybe six.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I would say it's a better scenario for the
New York Giants versus if I brought too in because
if I'm coming in, I can obviously have the conversation
that this is a concern, and it's probably already a
concern for the organization. You don't have to establish that,
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but you can make it clear that you're aware of
this concern of his concussions. And now I feel as
though that that actually you can't be held accountable for
moving away from Jackson Dart if you're the new coach
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of the team. But if Jackson Dart's potential is what
made the job attractive, then that's where to me, I
feel like, that's that's the conversation of are you comfortable
with taking that risk? Because if you're hanging your hat
and you said this on I don't know if it
was today or yesterday, but you said, you know, you
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got to look at Jackson Dart and say, you know,
he's got to be attractive to you, and you got
to believe in him, and I would agree with that.
I would agree with for now. If I took over
the New York Giants as the head coach, I would
one hundred percent want to try and make it work
with Jackson Dart, and I would go in a different
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direction of players that I go for in the draft.
For certain, I would one hundred percent make sure that
I bring in a backup quarterback that I believe fits
my you know, my offensive scheme, understands what I want
to get done, and can step in and play at
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a moment's notice, to compete for the job. Not just
come in and be a backup and accept being a backup,
but compete for the job. I would I would find
that more attractive and more feasible than bringing two a
in and trying to figure out where do I fit
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this guy on our roster knowing that his whole game
has had to change based upon the potential safety of
his head health. That to me, I think that that
would be the Jackson Dark conversation is at tack bit different. Why, well,
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he's younger, It's it's not as I don't think it's
as dire a situation at the moment as as to
us like, I think, why are you looking at me
like that? Bruh, I like, that's weird, bereful about.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I gotta be caring because I don't I don't want
this to say.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
God, Remember, you're trying to make this right because you
are undercover racist, So there's got to be at all
because that is where you were going.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'll be honest with you could probably claim Jackson Dart
at this point, but I would say, there you go.
You had to get it in there. No, I'm just
saying like like you were, like, you know, on.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The surface, they got more into Jackson dark because he
wears jewelry and and I don't know grill and I'm not.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Here to he is kind of fancy, you know, he's
he's so being so being a thing.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
By the way where he waves the sprinkler in front
of his face and covers his face, it's a dance.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
What a dance?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Like the kids hair thing interviews of the hair thing
is like make sure the hair is he's.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A good looking kid man. If you're trying to say
his pizzazz and his that it's more cultural, it's more
culturally more fitting for the black community. I mean, I
don't know what to tell you. Maybe that's security that
he's a pretty good looking kid personally.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He walks out there look at all fancy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I like him.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
What is that you cover your face and you wiggle
your hand in front of you?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like, what is that?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know, it's weird what the kids are.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Doing, Patty?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Can you look that up? What is that dance where
you cover your face and you you wiggle your hand
in front of you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Maybe it's a gang. It's a gang affiliated, you know, movement.
You never know, youang gang gang, you know that's.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Gang?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Right, I don't know. Yeah, the Jeb, but that's why
the Brian Dave all like going into the medical tent
and them freaking out in real time. Then you can
come to find out weeks later it's like, yeah, he's
been evaluated a bunch, he's had multiple concussions. It's a problem.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So U.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
The other issue is just like from that, it's it's
it's only a problem if he doesn't change his style
of play. And I guess the issue for me is like, well,
if he can't change his style of play, then you
know you're on borrowed time because eventually he's gonna get
knocked out and you're gonna have the backup going. Eventually,
they're going to add up over time. So that's more
of the concern I think is if you can't get
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him to play more from the pocket to protect himself,
that's a it's a big time concern.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But then now concern becomes can he be and you
bring up Tua, does he turn into a Tua if
he changed the way he plays?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
The tough thing for tu it's it's not just concussions.
I think our concern is concussions.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
However, like he's missed time you know this year, last year,
Like he's missed time for hip injury. He's missed times
for other things. Had the hip injury when he was
back in college. So there's a number of concerns there
from from his standpoint in his medical history regards In
regards to his contract, here's the tough part we talked
about not when in cut him, because of the dead
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cap money that would be on the salary cap for
the Dolphins, they would owe.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Almost one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If he was released before June one.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Two is just fine, He's fine.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Well, post tune one, it would be different, right, that's
gonna be a lower number, but they really couldn't get
out from underneath this contract until twenty twenty seven. That's
when that dead cap number comes way down. It goes
from basically ninety nine point two million to thirty one
point eight His cap hit for a start of really
isn't that bad coming into this season. So it is
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tolerable at fifty six point four million. But he knows
he's in a good spot where he'll either be on
a roster for the Dolphins or he's gonna be somewhere else,
with the Dolphins paying the lion's share of that more
similar to maybe what we saw with Russell Wilson and
you know, the Broncos having to pay for you know,
a ton for him, right.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I just I think he's gonna be, you know,
he's going to be somewhere. It just depends on what's
the right fit.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
And the question of the right fit is sometimes it
takes a unique coach like I go back to the
Kyler Murray when he gets drafted number one overall. Cliff
Kingsbury's there, he has a history with him. He knows
how to try to install an offense to playto his strengths.
You know, now Jonathan Gannon three seasons, they don't have
any success. There's reports rumors, Hey, maybe they feel better
about Jacoby Brissett being back there as compared to Kyler Murray. Well,
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if that's the case, I mean, what does that mean
then for Tua? Because Brian Flores obviously wasn't a fan
of him. Mike McDaniel was, but it hasn't led to
enough success. And whether you want to put that on
Tua or just him missing games, we're to this point regardless.
So then who's going to value him out there? That's
what I would be willing to trade for him under
this contract, even if you could get the Dolphins to
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pay a good portion of it. I just I'm not
sure what team that is with an offensive minded head
coach that's that's going to pay him to basically be
the starter or bring him to be the starter.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Like I think the Dolphins have to prepare themselves, you know,
to play out this thing out, and potentially with Tua
being their starter or at least being on the roster
for this upcoming.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
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Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm good. I'm good. I feel like when I come
on the like because I don't know what happens before
I come on as well. I'm not listening, but.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Oh gosh, the whole tenor of the show just changes,
gets a little more serious, a little more edgy.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, they'll take the stakes up real high. We don't
we don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
We're trying not to make contact with you, like Alec Pierce,
and so I didn't know if did that warrant an ejection?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
It was? That was that was quite a back rod,
I mean, that was that was that was interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
But anyway, I mean, was it, uh, where do you
draw the line and touching an official?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I mean, Miles Garrett gets the sack to set the record.
Dudes are high five officials. You know, it's like, what
do you where do you draw the line out there?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Dean?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I don't know. We we are. I think the whole
world has just gone bonkers. I mean we have I
really like dach Keler, but now we can't stop the
game for a couple of minutes to honor Miles Garrett
in the game. That means nothing. Officials throwing people out
that wasn't look if you want to, if you want
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to penalize, okay, but an ejection, I mean that's it's
a bit, that's a bit over the top.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, now that's probably the most egregious uh call that
was made. What did you see? What went on your
your notepad? As as another egregious call that took place?
I mean I saw a few, but I feel like
it's kind of redundant to keep asking you about the
same type of penalties that I see taking place. But
what what did you see? This this pass past?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well? I thought that the the Tampa Carolina game had
a couple I know that was I mean social media
was on fire, the one, you know, the the the
offensive pass appearance on McMillan. I mean, that's one, don't crazy.
You always teach officials that's good because the dB can
jam the receiver within five yards and and you're going
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to let the receiver use his hands to get off
of that jam and swim through or knock knock that
dv's arms away. And that's all that was. That's not
that's not pushing off to make a catch. That's not,
you know, and that takes a big, big play away.
It was some you know, somebody would have would have
got another official, would have got together and talked about
it and picked that that flag up. They had a
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path that was ruled incomplete and forward and and and
they end up changing it to backward and then ends
up being a seven yard loss. I mean, that's just
common sense. That's an inadvert whistle. They should have been
able to replay down, you know, and that's obviously a
big game with with with playoff implications. And so those
are those were two that stood.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Out for me when officials, you know, and you mentioned,
you know, get together and pick the flag up. We
wish it would have happened. How how common is it
for officials to really disagree on a call. I know
we never see it play outs where they're arguing on
the field, but are there discussions afterwards like a like
like what is that process like? Ultimately, when it comes
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to yeah, you're in different spots.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I wouldn't say it's a disagreement. I think it's just
a different you know, every official has a different angle
looking at the place, so there are there are plays,
especially when it comes to plays downfield passing difference the
balls in the air a little longer, where you have
multiple officials looking at the same action and they just
they have a different perspective. So if one official throws
the flag, then another official can come in and say, hey,
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from my angle, here's what I saw. I didn't see
you know, the contact occurred when the ball got there
or or I didn't see any restriction. I thought they
were hand sighting a lot of times with the block
in the back, you know, one one official throws the
flag and the other fisial sits. From my angle, looked
like it was on the side, And so I don't
necessarily think it's it's a disagreement. Disagreement, it's just giving
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more information, providing more input, and ultimately it's up to
the show it through the flag to pick up, to
pick it up, and and a lot of times they do.
But if they're if they you know, if they are
convicted and what they saw, and then they don't have
to take it out. So I think that happens a lot.
You know, there's a lot of communication out there between
the officials.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
One of the coolest plays Dan I saw this weekend
was the fake punt by the Colts and then leaving
a hunt team out in the field and then that
was lost down play just to try to warrant that
the twelve men on the field.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you seen that before?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
And is that a play that like Shane Steichen would
go to the officiating crew before the game and say, hey,
we might do this or this is what we're looking
at doing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, I've never seen that before. That is something definitely.
As a coach, I would always tell the coaches especially
I used to talk these special teams coaches all the time,
and if you have something like that Summarnkle, something exotic,
just let the officials know because then what you don't
want is the official to be surprised in the moment
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and then shut it down or throw a flag because
as long as you could, as long as the formation
is legal, you can. You can line up in a
punt formation every play, you can line up a fieldal formation.
So I think it was it was interesting. I hadn't
seen it, you know, confused as the defense used to
see teams would would you know on fourth and short
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they leave the offense out there, then they quickly rush
the punt team out and try to get the other
team to call it time out or vice versa. So
those things happen as long as the formation is legal,
It's it's cool. And yeah, I would imagine that the
Shainstiken had had alerted the officials before the game that
they might do this.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
The touch push has continued on, but the conversation has
kind of slowed up and cooled off, like what how
should we be viewing it heading into the postseason? And
I guess unless it becomes a significant part of an
outcome of a game, is it safe to say that
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there is there going to be as big a need
for the conversation of one play in particular heading into
the off season with the competition committee.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, it's interesting because that tends to if nothing happens
in the postseason. Is there enough of an appetite, Is
it fresh in everybody's minds like it was early in
the season to where the competition committee has the conversation
or ownership feels compelled to make a change. I do
think it'll be on the agenda regardless. I think enough
(26:34):
happened the last you know, you know, last couple of
years with this play, and and I know the help
and safety people at the NFL are not you know,
they don't love this play either for the potential for injury.
So I think it'll be on the agenda. I think
it'll be part of the conversation. But you know, the
Eagles are you know, I saw a stat where they're
at sixty five percent success this year, which is way
(26:57):
way down. Not that again, we could talk about is
it just one team? Obviously they're they're They're the team
that runs at the most and was the big driver
behind trying to get it out. Uh So I think
it'll be part of the conversation. But I don't know.
If nothing happens in the postseason, I'm not sure we're
going to have enough of a push to get rid
of it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports NFL college football rules analysts joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Should there have been
a leverage call made on the Ravens missed field goal
on the Steelers? I saw some people, you know, point
to what looked to be potential leveraging by pitching spot.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I wouldn't want that call. That happens a lot on
field will block with hands. Who you're really looking for
is pushing off to create that that height to block
the kick. I thought that would have been an incredibly
technical call, and that would have been more controversial than
anything else. So I was good with that. I know
people a lot of times on social media, and obviously
(27:56):
it was a shorter tick and and so you're looking
for other reasons, squad it might have been missed. But
I was good with that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Dina.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
On that note, I want to ask you. I believe
it was in was it Cincinnati and Cleveland? It was
jumping over the long snapper. It was called in one
of the games. Maybe it was Atlanta, the New Orleans
or something, But uh, what is the actual rule now?
Is it really the pre snap alignment is how farther
away from the long snapper because you are able to jump,
It's as long as you don't touch them.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right, Yeah, you have to if you're off the ball
at the snap, you can't run up and jump over
the line of scrimmage. You can't cross the line of
scrimmage if you come from off the ball, if you're
if you're down lineman, if you're stationary on the line
of scrimmage defined as within a yard. If you're you
you can you can jump over, provided you don't, like
(28:45):
you said, you don't push off or leverage to get
yourself over the over the line. So that was the
call there. That's the leaping when you when you run
up and then we used to have that years ago
where the guys with you know, super athletic. I don't know, LaVar,
you might have done this sometimes, you know, come run
up and jump and try to block that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I might have been the reason why they outlawed it exactly.
To be honest.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
You know what else state, You know what else state
they're outlawing now too, is they're they're they're not letting
fans on the field for Penn State games to former
players because of altercation football boys.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
That was why your stand up bits right there. So
while you don't listen to our show, Dane you and
thus you're interviewing on it, you come on and text
your material on air.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Okay, mister mister. The reason they changed.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That, I mean, I hate to have to be that guy,
but they might have been. I mean I was running
up and diving over the line of scrimmage though I
really was like all the Yeah. But anyway, going into
(29:59):
going into the playoffs, Dean, if you were able to
stand up and do your stand up comedy act in
front of the referees, that will be you know, calling
the games in the playoffs. What would your what would
your main points be going into this playoff, this playoff year?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, well, what I like about the playoffs is just
like the teams, right, you have in theory the best
teams with the officials, it's the best officials. You have
one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and thirty
officials total. Now you're narrowing that, you you have less officials,
the highest rated officials. So typically these games you know
(30:39):
they should be they should go really well. And again
I don't think it's you don't change what you've done
all year. It's not just now we're in the playoffs
and we're going to have a different standard past deferences,
past ofference. These teams have been playing all year, and
you don't want to change how we're officiating the game.
But again, you just can't be over technical. You have
(31:01):
to call the fouls that need to be called, not
the ones you could, not the ones that you could
based on the rule I could, I could support it.
It's get get the calls that need to be called,
and uh, you know, don't change any of the philosophies
and and and manage the game. Be good, be good
game managers, because that's the whole key. These are the
these are the best teams this year. They usually play
(31:23):
more disciplined in the in the postseason because they know
it's winner, go home, So you have that benefit where
there shouldn't be. You know, there shouldn't be a lot
of sloppy games. And uh, you know, I think I
think the postseason should should go really well. But who knows.
It's the NFL, something crazy will happen.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, I was going to ask you that because you know,
they say this about the NBA, and listen, they say
a lot of things about the NBA, but you know
it's well, you know, uh, they're going to let him
play or you know it in a game like this,
you let him play in a moment like this, and
I do wonder, is it maybe like a natural a
do I really want to call that he or in
(32:00):
this spot maybe I would have called it in week three,
you know, in a four h five Eastern time slot,
Like maybe I would have called it then. But maybe
it just feels like that's that I could see that
being a natural reaction from an official. Just human nature is, man,
I don't want to litigate it like this in this
spot if I if I feel like, you know, it's
(32:21):
it's too close to call, Like what's the conversation like that?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, there's no question with human nature. Like you said,
I think that that you can't discount that that that
might enter into an official's mind and you want to
guard against that because you know, we've talked about when
that let them play deal is such a misnomer because
when you let them play, teams know that, and I've
(32:45):
been getting away with murder all game and I'm going
to continue to do that, and that you gain an
unfair advantage if you continue. So you've got not throwing
the flag. It's just as impactful as throwing the flag.
And again, I think it's maintaining that same, that same standard.
And if it's a foul in the first quarter of
a game in Week six, it's got to be a
foul in the wildcard game or the NFC Championship game.
(33:08):
And also within the game, right, you've got to create
a standard. You can't officiate the game and let things
go in the first quarter and then all of a
sudden in the fourth quarter, you you start throwing a
bunch of flags because the teams have adjusted. And I
think that that's part of that that art of officiating
the game. And and and again, I think you try
to you try to guard against that human nature of
(33:30):
I don't want to be part of the story at
the end, but you could be part of the story
if it's an egregious mess. And so that's it's a
it's a balance there.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
All right.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I do have to go back then to college football
because at one of the cot tosses it became very
apparent that the official was aware of the camera. And
I believe it was the Cotton Bowl between OHW Stayed
in Miami, which that was a game for the most
part and I think we've become accustomed to feeling this way.
There weren't many flags, and it's all as if we
(34:00):
would rather see a game without any flags than flags
that become the story of it, or too many flags,
and so people tend to be like, hey, I was
a well officiated game.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Is there a thought to that at least?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I know you did.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
We're talking NFL, but even in college football, when you
look at just how some goal games have.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Gone, no question. Look, if you gave me a choice
of those three things, I'm going to choose the game
without a lot of flags, right, And I think we'd
all agree with that. But you hope that it's the
two teams that are determining how many flags there are,
and it's not just the officials keeping the flags in
their pocket, because inevitably, and I did this for a
(34:38):
long time, and you would get coaches questions, and I
do it with Colin too, it's inevitably those games where
there aren't a lot of flags, both teams are sending
in like fifty plays where what was this? This was
holding this was? So I don't know if the officials
are keenly aware of Hey, look, we don't want to
be the story. I know it's the CFP. I know
(35:00):
it's it's obviously these are the biggest, the biggest games
of the year. Again, they just got to continue to
officiate the game the same way. The challenge with college
is that you do have kind of differences amongst the conferences,
like the ACC officiating program and the CC in the
Big Ten, and now you've got certain conferences officiating teams,
(35:23):
but maybe those schools haven't seen those officials and maybe
there's a little bit of a different into the philosophy.
So that's always a challenge as well. But I think
the cfp's gone well so far, and knock on wood,
I think, you know, the next we've got three games left,
I think it'll go well.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I'm just going to shout, Dean, where are you going
to be this weekend? What's the schedule looking like?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
We got Niners Eagle Sunday four twenty five Eastern.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
There you go, yeah, nice, you'll be out in Philly
for that.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
We'll be Yeah, we'll be out in Philly. We're probably
you know, we're going to hit up maybe an Italian
spot with my guy Big Dom Saturday. Who knows, well
it's going to be, it'll be, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Does everyone know Big Dom?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I think everybody knows Big Dom. Big domb is for
those who don't know who Big Dom is, he's the
he's the eagle security guy and he's but he's also
he's a fixer, right, He's just he's not just the
security guy. He does a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So I mean, you know he's a Penn State or too. Absolutely,
just so you know, you know, and if he was
on the sideline, I wouldn't have that wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Been headline alterations too.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well you know what that is true. Maybe I didn't
get kicked off a sideline Dom did, so I'm a
little up on him. Well, actually I did get kicked off.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Hey for tell Dean, how many shirts Tommy used to
wear back in the day.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Oh man, it had to be about eight nine, but
he's layered eight and nine. He used to wear like yeah,
like yeah, like eight or nine T shirts and and
his jeans and his timberlands. But he was my dude,
big dude, Like we used to always walk the class,
had great conversations. No, just he wore that that was
(37:06):
his style. He wore like five six T shirts.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Like I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him about Pat.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like five or six they ask him. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I like that, Dean.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
We always appreciate it, uh, and we will do it
again next week.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
There you.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
With us here on Fox Sports Radio, Man, he was
spicy today, Dean, why not just bringing the heat then?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Why not be spicy? Why not bring the heat because
I don't have no spicy or no heat unless you're
talking about some Louisiana hot sauce. Yeah, you want that
most valuable? Poor, Mine is original Louisiana hot sauce. I'll
dress my favorite eats up with ease, and so can you.
Nacho's Pizza gumbo. That taste is gonna score. That's mine,
(37:52):
p That's Louisiana hot sauce. Make sure you buy some.
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Speaker 3 (40:24):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Tons of incredible.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Here's the left over the railroad.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
What do we got?
Speaker 10 (40:33):
Oh my goodness, I saw this left over today and
I'm curious if anyone would be, you know, willing to
do this as a player, But could you squad a Jaguar?
Trevor Lawrence was out at a bar. He's the quarterback
of the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are going to the playoffs,
by the way, very exciting. One random fan, I would say,
(40:53):
saw him at the bar and instead of asking for
an autograph, she asked if she could squat him, so
she threw him over.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
She's she's like at least two feet shorter than this man.
Speaker 10 (41:04):
She is very short, but apparently she is a She
is a veteran, a Navy veteran, so she's got some
muscle on her. She did a good Yeah, very cool.
So that was kind of nifty.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yeah, you guys ever get squatted when he went out.
He's two hundred and fifteen pounds too. Okay, oh nuts.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
No, what no, that would be the quick answer.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
Okay, maybe she's wife material right, he's married?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Oh never mind, Yeah, he's there. You go, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
He's got a grill and everything. I wonder how his wife.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Let's let's lunge on out of this one.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
Well, the regular season is officially over and the players
are looking to relax and enjoy their downtime. One player, specifically,
Jamar Chase, is off to can Couon.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
You want to go to everybody except me, and I'm
going to enjoy myself.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
And I'll have nothing else to do, so I'm taking
myself there.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
I play socks.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Is that where Mango deck is? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, can't.
It doesn't suck. The place I went to suck suck
when I went there. Enjoy yourself, Jamar, be safe out there.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Why that's a dangerous or something.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
No, I mean every place has a dangerous place, of course,
Or to just be safe enjoy yourself so far? What
you mean? Can Coon is a fun place.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
I like Cancuon. They have cheap shots and homemade tortillas.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh it's so good and it's wonder winter break is
coming to an end, so he's going to miss the traffic.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
That was the selling point. You guys do homemade tortilla.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
He is, alright, I'm in yikes, all right, yeah, I
means Mexico City might make more sense for that.
Speaker 10 (43:03):
I guess I could just go to your house, right Jonas,
All
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two pros FSR and subscribe. So obviously there was black
Monday coaches got the acts. We know, Pete Carroll, Jonathan Gannon,
Kevin Stefanski all gone. One guy that remains is Mike McDaniel.
He is still there. He said he will be part
(01:33):
of help with the GM search. So apparently Troy Aigman's
criticism of him, you know, during a Monday night game
a few weeks back, Mike McDaniel appears to be safe.
Where it gets interesting is his quarterback to a takabay Iloa.
He was at his locker yesterday and a couple of
(01:53):
media members kind of walked up to him and said,
you know, two you know, are you hoping for a
fresh start? And he said, quote that would be dope.
I would be good with it. Barry Jackson, who covers
the Miami Dolphins, said, the three of us who asked
him made sure he knew that we meant somewhere else,
(02:13):
and he very politely declined to speak beyond that. So
I don't know if that means that that Tua is
going to be elsewhere when it's all said and done,
But I would have thought that he would see this
considering his history with Brian Flores and how everything went down,
I would have assumed that he would realize this is
(02:33):
probably the best opportunity he's got with an organization that's
already paid him and a coach that has had success
with him. That coach is still there, he probably would
have to maybe compete. As Mike McDaniel said, there's going
to be a quarterback competition next year. I just wonder
if this means that they're embracing for a change or
(02:54):
they're just looking at this as a full blown competition.
It's going to be Quinn yours versus Tua in training
camp next year. How do you guys see it?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I think they're gonna try to trade too, if they
could find an offer for them, and that offer may
come with them having to pay a good portion of
what the extension they signed them to, and uh, hopefully there,
I should say, for their sake, hopefully they get some
draft you know, capital back in return if they are
going to pay a good portion of that contract. I mean,
that's that's kind of how it works nowadays, is if
(03:24):
you can find a team that's willing to give up
on a guy, and the heck they're already gonna pay
him anyway that they can get some decent draft capital
back in return. Okay, like that, they'll they'll most likely
do the trade, do the deal. I don't think they're
gonna cut them. Don't think they would release them. They'd
be a lot of money on their dead cap. So
I think they try to find a trade part if
they could, and go that direction. But it feels like,
(03:49):
and there's multiple plays that I was gonna be like this.
It felt like in Arizona two, if they weren't going
to move on from Jonathan Gannon, they were going to
move on from Yler Murray. Now it feels like maybe
they move on from both, or at least maybe they
want to keep kyl I Murder to see what the
next head coach would want to do. And in the
case of Miami, you know you brought in Mike McDaniel
to get the most out of two. I think you
have gotten the most out of him. The problem is
can't stay healthy. So because of that, it feels like
(04:12):
they want to make a change. If they're not gonna
change with McDaniel, then they're probably gonna change with Tua.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't first let me just start by saying it's unfortunate,
but he is damaged goods. I mean, you just got
to look at it at face value. I don't think
the value, No, I don't. I wouldn't say he's touched
and just say he's you know, he's seems like he's
a good dude. He just found himself in a situation
(04:41):
where concussions and maybe a few other things I don't know,
maybe a lack of belief from Flores early on. It's
just certain things that could have possibly potentially made things
difficult for him long term. In Miami. I think him
and Mike McDaniel, they got off to a really solid start.
(05:03):
But I just think that the concussions deal is the
biggest piece of the story with Tua. So a fresh start,
I don't think there is a such thing as a
fresh start for him at this point, and that just
has to be a reality that he, you know, he embraces.
What is next. I don't know if I'm another team,
(05:25):
I'm not giving up anything for Tua. I just don't
know what I'm going to put to you like this.
I do believe I know what I'm getting when I
get Tua, and for that I just can't see myself
giving up any real capital to get them. And so
I think he's He's in a good position because he's
(05:48):
got his contract. Miami's in the compromising position because they
have to figure out what to do with them. And
Q you just mentioned, I mean, why would you just
get rid of them and just take the dead cap it?
So you bring them back and you see if he
can compete for the job. But now going into this season,
it's there's a clarity and understanding that you're not the starter.
(06:10):
You have to win the position. You're not just the incumbent.
You have to win the position. You're going to have
to compete to be the guy that starts for this team.
And I think that that's a little bit different than
what it has been for him, And I think that's
a reality that he has to accept.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
You don't think they would like a team would give
up a conditional third and a sixth or something for Tua.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Again, is it possible? I guess anything's possible. Is it sensible?
Is it realistic? I would probably err on the side
of no. I would not think that that is feasible
just looking at what the potential of of him being
(07:02):
to to your your team. I just don't I don't
see it. I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Who would be the team that would make some sense
if that's the case, Like we're looking at teams that
I mean, look a lot of the speculation. I think
the betting odds have Brian Flores is the favorite to
get the Raiders job. So that would take the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Raiders off, eliminate the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They're they're out of the conversation. I mean, it's not
going to be anybody in the a f C North.
I would maybe the Browns. I don't know, Like I
don't know if the Browns want to give up and
go down that road with Deshaun Watson, even though that's
coming on. I just I don't know how many good
options there are the Browns. I'm just looking around the
(07:44):
a FC like teams that need quarterbacks. Indianapolis that's a
log jam, and and that's a logjam. Oh no, I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Don't. I just said that's a ride at Kennywood and
I love those rides. Yeah, sit in the log get wet.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I'm just I don't know what, like where it makes
Minnesota if you want to create some competition with for
a JJ McCarthy, which I think they want to do,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Man, it doesn't seem like there's if he comes, let's
just fast forward. He gets signed by a team. Let's
it doesn't matter what the team is. He gets signed
by the team, he comes walking through the door. What
do you think the first thing everybody's inside the doors
are saying, from the secretary to the media people, to
the coaching staff, to the scouting department, to everybody. What
(08:36):
do you think they're saying a minute they see to
a walk through the door, don't hit him in the head. Okay,
something to that effect, helmet, something to that effect. That's right.
Why do you want that coming through your doors?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I mean, okay, okay, Then if you want to use
that discussion, could you say the same thing about a
head coach taking the New York Giants job with the
concern over Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I mean, if it gets too windy, they're gonna take
him into the blue tent and check his head out.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And by the way, he's like, he takes some hits,
takes some hits, and it's not even just the ones
that we know he's had. He was evaluated several times
because they're like, yeah, something's off.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
That's why what I'm saying is not a joke. I
mean it literally, He's been evaluated at least five times,
maybe six.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I would say it's a better scenario for the
New York Giants versus if I brought too in because
if I'm coming in, I can obviously have the conversation
that this is a concern, and it's probably already a
concern for the organization. You don't have to establish that,
(09:48):
but you can make it clear that you're aware of
this concern of his concussions. And now I feel as
though that that actually you can't be held accountable for
moving away from Jackson Dart if you're the new coach
(10:08):
of the team. But if Jackson Dart's potential is what
made the job attractive, then that's where to me, I
feel like, that's that's the conversation of are you comfortable
with taking that risk? Because if you're hanging your hat
and you said this on I don't know if it
was today or yesterday, but you said, you know, you
(10:30):
got to look at Jackson Dart and say, you know,
he's got to be attractive to you, and you got
to believe in him, and I would agree with that.
I would agree with for now. If I took over
the New York Giants as the head coach, I would
one hundred percent want to try and make it work
with Jackson Dart, and I would go in a different
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direction of players that I go for in the draft.
For certain, I would one hundred percent make sure that
I bring in a backup quarterback that I believe fits
my you know, my offensive scheme, understands what I want
to get done, and can step in and play at
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a moment's notice, to compete for the job. Not just
come in and be a backup and accept being a backup,
but compete for the job. I would I would find
that more attractive and more feasible than bringing two a
in and trying to figure out where do I fit
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this guy on our roster knowing that his whole game
has had to change based upon the potential safety of
his head health. That to me, I think that that
would be the Jackson Dark conversation is at tack bit different. Why, well,
(11:52):
he's younger, It's it's not as I don't think it's
as dire a situation at the moment as as to
us like, I think, why are you looking at me
like that? Bruh, I like, that's weird, bereful about.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I gotta be caring because I don't I don't want
this to say.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
God, Remember, you're trying to make this right because you
are undercover racist, So there's got to be at all
because that is where you were going.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'll be honest with you could probably claim Jackson Dart
at this point, but I would say, there you go.
You had to get it in there. No, I'm just
saying like like you were, like, you know, on.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The surface, they got more into Jackson dark because he
wears jewelry and and I don't know grill and I'm not.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Here to he is kind of fancy, you know, he's
he's so being so being a thing.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
By the way where he waves the sprinkler in front
of his face and covers his face, it's a dance.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
What a dance?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Like the kids hair thing interviews of the hair thing
is like make sure the hair is he's.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A good looking kid man. If you're trying to say
his pizzazz and his that it's more cultural, it's more
culturally more fitting for the black community. I mean, I
don't know what to tell you. Maybe that's security that
he's a pretty good looking kid personally.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He walks out there look at all fancy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I like him.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
What is that you cover your face and you wiggle
your hand in front of you?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like, what is that?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know, it's weird what the kids are.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Doing, Patty?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Can you look that up? What is that dance where
you cover your face and you you wiggle your hand
in front of you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Maybe it's a gang. It's a gang affiliated, you know, movement.
You never know, youang gang gang, you know that's.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Gang?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Right, I don't know. Yeah, the Jeb, but that's why
the Brian Dave all like going into the medical tent
and them freaking out in real time. Then you can
come to find out weeks later it's like, yeah, he's
been evaluated a bunch, he's had multiple concussions. It's a problem.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So U.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
The other issue is just like from that, it's it's
it's only a problem if he doesn't change his style
of play. And I guess the issue for me is like, well,
if he can't change his style of play, then you
know you're on borrowed time because eventually he's gonna get
knocked out and you're gonna have the backup going. Eventually,
they're going to add up over time. So that's more
of the concern I think is if you can't get
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him to play more from the pocket to protect himself,
that's a it's a big time concern.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But then now concern becomes can he be and you
bring up Tua, does he turn into a Tua if
he changed the way he plays?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
The tough thing for tu it's it's not just concussions.
I think our concern is concussions.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
However, like he's missed time you know this year, last year,
Like he's missed time for hip injury. He's missed times
for other things. Had the hip injury when he was
back in college. So there's a number of concerns there
from from his standpoint in his medical history regards In
regards to his contract, here's the tough part we talked
about not when in cut him, because of the dead
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cap money that would be on the salary cap for
the Dolphins, they would owe.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Almost one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If he was released before June one.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Two is just fine, He's fine.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Well, post tune one, it would be different, right, that's
gonna be a lower number, but they really couldn't get
out from underneath this contract until twenty twenty seven. That's
when that dead cap number comes way down. It goes
from basically ninety nine point two million to thirty one
point eight His cap hit for a start of really
isn't that bad coming into this season. So it is
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tolerable at fifty six point four million. But he knows
he's in a good spot where he'll either be on
a roster for the Dolphins or he's gonna be somewhere else,
with the Dolphins paying the lion's share of that more
similar to maybe what we saw with Russell Wilson and
you know, the Broncos having to pay for you know,
a ton for him, right.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So I just I think he's gonna be, you know,
he's going to be somewhere. It just depends on what's
the right fit.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
And the question of the right fit is sometimes it
takes a unique coach like I go back to the
Kyler Murray when he gets drafted number one overall. Cliff
Kingsbury's there, he has a history with him. He knows
how to try to install an offense to playto his strengths.
You know, now Jonathan Gannon three seasons, they don't have
any success. There's reports rumors, Hey, maybe they feel better
about Jacoby Brissett being back there as compared to Kyler Murray. Well,
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if that's the case, I mean, what does that mean
then for Tua? Because Brian Flores obviously wasn't a fan
of him. Mike McDaniel was, but it hasn't led to
enough success. And whether you want to put that on
Tua or just him missing games, we're to this point regardless.
So then who's going to value him out there? That's
what I would be willing to trade for him under
this contract, even if you could get the Dolphins to
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pay a good portion of it. I just I'm not
sure what team that is with an offensive minded head
coach that's that's going to pay him to basically be
the starter or bring him to be the starter.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Like I think the Dolphins have to prepare themselves, you know,
to play out this thing out, and potentially with Tua
being their starter or at least being on the roster
for this upcoming.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
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him on x at Dean Blandino and he joins you
and us every single Tuesday. Dean, Good morning, Dean.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm good. I'm good. I feel like when I come
on the like because I don't know what happens before
I come on as well. I'm not listening, but.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Oh gosh, the whole tenor of the show just changes,
gets a little more serious, a little more edgy.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, they'll take the stakes up real high. We don't
we don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
We're trying not to make contact with you, like Alec Pierce,
and so I didn't know if did that warrant an ejection?
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
It was? That was that was quite a back rod,
I mean, that was that was that was interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
But anyway, I mean, was it, uh, where do you
draw the line and touching an official?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I mean, Miles Garrett gets the sack to set the record.
Dudes are high five officials. You know, it's like, what
do you where do you draw the line out there?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Dean?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I don't know. We we are. I think the whole
world has just gone bonkers. I mean we have I
really like dach Keler, but now we can't stop the
game for a couple of minutes to honor Miles Garrett
in the game. That means nothing. Officials throwing people out
that wasn't look if you want to, if you want
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to penalize, okay, but an ejection, I mean that's it's
a bit, that's a bit over the top.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, now that's probably the most egregious uh call that
was made. What did you see? What went on your
your notepad? As as another egregious call that took place?
I mean I saw a few, but I feel like
it's kind of redundant to keep asking you about the
same type of penalties that I see taking place. But
what what did you see? This this pass past?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well? I thought that the the Tampa Carolina game had
a couple I know that was I mean social media
was on fire, the one, you know, the the the
offensive pass appearance on McMillan. I mean, that's one, don't crazy.
You always teach officials that's good because the dB can
jam the receiver within five yards and and you're going
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to let the receiver use his hands to get off
of that jam and swim through or knock knock that
dv's arms away. And that's all that was. That's not
that's not pushing off to make a catch. That's not,
you know, and that takes a big, big play away.
It was some you know, somebody would have would have
got another official, would have got together and talked about
it and picked that that flag up. They had a
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path that was ruled incomplete and forward and and and
they end up changing it to backward and then ends
up being a seven yard loss. I mean, that's just
common sense. That's an inadvert whistle. They should have been
able to replay down, you know, and that's obviously a
big game with with with playoff implications. And so those
are those were two that stood.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Out for me when officials, you know, and you mentioned,
you know, get together and pick the flag up. We
wish it would have happened. How how common is it
for officials to really disagree on a call. I know
we never see it play outs where they're arguing on
the field, but are there discussions afterwards like a like
like what is that process like? Ultimately, when it comes
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to yeah, you're in different spots.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I wouldn't say it's a disagreement. I think it's just
a different you know, every official has a different angle
looking at the place, so there are there are plays,
especially when it comes to plays downfield passing difference the
balls in the air a little longer, where you have
multiple officials looking at the same action and they just
they have a different perspective. So if one official throws
the flag, then another official can come in and say, hey,
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from my angle, here's what I saw. I didn't see
you know, the contact occurred when the ball got there
or or I didn't see any restriction. I thought they
were hand sighting a lot of times with the block
in the back, you know, one one official throws the
flag and the other fisial sits. From my angle, looked
like it was on the side, And so I don't
necessarily think it's it's a disagreement. Disagreement, it's just giving
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more information, providing more input, and ultimately it's up to
the show it through the flag to pick up, to
pick it up, and and a lot of times they do.
But if they're if they you know, if they are
convicted and what they saw, and then they don't have
to take it out. So I think that happens a lot.
You know, there's a lot of communication out there between
the officials.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
One of the coolest plays Dan I saw this weekend
was the fake punt by the Colts and then leaving
a hunt team out in the field and then that
was lost down play just to try to warrant that
the twelve men on the field.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Have you seen that before?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
And is that a play that like Shane Steichen would
go to the officiating crew before the game and say, hey,
we might do this or this is what we're looking
at doing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, I've never seen that before. That is something definitely.
As a coach, I would always tell the coaches especially
I used to talk these special teams coaches all the time,
and if you have something like that Summarnkle, something exotic,
just let the officials know because then what you don't
want is the official to be surprised in the moment
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and then shut it down or throw a flag because
as long as you could, as long as the formation
is legal, you can. You can line up in a
punt formation every play, you can line up a fieldal formation.
So I think it was it was interesting. I hadn't
seen it, you know, confused as the defense used to
see teams would would you know on fourth and short
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they leave the offense out there, then they quickly rush
the punt team out and try to get the other
team to call it time out or vice versa. So
those things happen as long as the formation is legal,
It's it's cool. And yeah, I would imagine that the
Shainstiken had had alerted the officials before the game that
they might do this.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
The touch push has continued on, but the conversation has
kind of slowed up and cooled off, like what how
should we be viewing it heading into the postseason? And
I guess unless it becomes a significant part of an
outcome of a game, is it safe to say that
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there is there going to be as big a need
for the conversation of one play in particular heading into
the off season with the competition committee.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, it's interesting because that tends to if nothing happens
in the postseason. Is there enough of an appetite, Is
it fresh in everybody's minds like it was early in
the season to where the competition committee has the conversation
or ownership feels compelled to make a change. I do
think it'll be on the agenda regardless. I think enough
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happened the last you know, you know, last couple of
years with this play, and and I know the help
and safety people at the NFL are not you know,
they don't love this play either for the potential for injury.
So I think it'll be on the agenda. I think
it'll be part of the conversation. But you know, the
Eagles are you know, I saw a stat where they're
at sixty five percent success this year, which is way
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way down. Not that again, we could talk about is
it just one team? Obviously they're they're They're the team
that runs at the most and was the big driver
behind trying to get it out. Uh So I think
it'll be part of the conversation. But I don't know.
If nothing happens in the postseason, I'm not sure we're
going to have enough of a push to get rid
of it.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports NFL college football rules analysts joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Should there have been
a leverage call made on the Ravens missed field goal
on the Steelers? I saw some people, you know, point
to what looked to be potential leveraging by pitching spot.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I wouldn't want that call. That happens a lot on
field will block with hands. Who you're really looking for
is pushing off to create that that height to block
the kick. I thought that would have been an incredibly
technical call, and that would have been more controversial than
anything else. So I was good with that. I know
people a lot of times on social media, and obviously
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it was a shorter tick and and so you're looking
for other reasons, squad it might have been missed. But
I was good with that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Dina.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
On that note, I want to ask you. I believe
it was in was it Cincinnati and Cleveland? It was
jumping over the long snapper. It was called in one
of the games. Maybe it was Atlanta, the New Orleans
or something, But uh, what is the actual rule now?
Is it really the pre snap alignment is how farther
away from the long snapper because you are able to jump,
It's as long as you don't touch them.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right, Yeah, you have to if you're off the ball
at the snap, you can't run up and jump over
the line of scrimmage. You can't cross the line of
scrimmage if you come from off the ball, if you're
if you're down lineman, if you're stationary on the line
of scrimmage defined as within a yard. If you're you
you can you can jump over, provided you don't, like
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you said, you don't push off or leverage to get
yourself over the over the line. So that was the
call there. That's the leaping when you when you run
up and then we used to have that years ago
where the guys with you know, super athletic. I don't know, LaVar,
you might have done this sometimes, you know, come run
up and jump and try to block that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I might have been the reason why they outlawed it exactly.
To be honest.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
You know what else state, You know what else state
they're outlawing now too, is they're they're they're not letting
fans on the field for Penn State games to former
players because of altercation football boys.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
That was why your stand up bits right there. So
while you don't listen to our show, Dane you and
thus you're interviewing on it, you come on and text
your material on air.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Okay, mister mister. The reason they changed.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That, I mean, I hate to have to be that guy,
but they might have been. I mean I was running
up and diving over the line of scrimmage though I
really was like all the Yeah. But anyway, going into
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going into the playoffs, Dean, if you were able to
stand up and do your stand up comedy act in
front of the referees, that will be you know, calling
the games in the playoffs. What would your what would
your main points be going into this playoff, this playoff year?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, well, what I like about the playoffs is just
like the teams, right, you have in theory the best
teams with the officials, it's the best officials. You have
one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and thirty
officials total. Now you're narrowing that, you you have less officials,
the highest rated officials. So typically these games you know
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they should be they should go really well. And again
I don't think it's you don't change what you've done
all year. It's not just now we're in the playoffs
and we're going to have a different standard past deferences,
past ofference. These teams have been playing all year, and
you don't want to change how we're officiating the game.
But again, you just can't be over technical. You have
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to call the fouls that need to be called, not
the ones you could, not the ones that you could
based on the rule I could, I could support it.
It's get get the calls that need to be called,
and uh, you know, don't change any of the philosophies
and and and manage the game. Be good, be good
game managers, because that's the whole key. These are the
these are the best teams this year. They usually play
(31:23):
more disciplined in the in the postseason because they know
it's winner, go home, So you have that benefit where
there shouldn't be. You know, there shouldn't be a lot
of sloppy games. And uh, you know, I think I
think the postseason should should go really well. But who knows.
It's the NFL, something crazy will happen.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, I was going to ask you that because you know,
they say this about the NBA, and listen, they say
a lot of things about the NBA, but you know
it's well, you know, uh, they're going to let him
play or you know it in a game like this,
you let him play in a moment like this, and
I do wonder, is it maybe like a natural a
do I really want to call that he or in
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this spot maybe I would have called it in week three,
you know, in a four h five Eastern time slot,
Like maybe I would have called it then. But maybe
it just feels like that's that I could see that
being a natural reaction from an official. Just human nature is, man,
I don't want to litigate it like this in this
spot if I if I feel like, you know, it's
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it's too close to call, Like what's the conversation like that?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, there's no question with human nature. Like you said,
I think that that you can't discount that that that
might enter into an official's mind and you want to
guard against that because you know, we've talked about when
that let them play deal is such a misnomer because
when you let them play, teams know that, and I've
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been getting away with murder all game and I'm going
to continue to do that, and that you gain an
unfair advantage if you continue. So you've got not throwing
the flag. It's just as impactful as throwing the flag.
And again, I think it's maintaining that same, that same standard.
And if it's a foul in the first quarter of
a game in Week six, it's got to be a
foul in the wildcard game or the NFC Championship game.
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And also within the game, right, you've got to create
a standard. You can't officiate the game and let things
go in the first quarter and then all of a
sudden in the fourth quarter, you you start throwing a
bunch of flags because the teams have adjusted. And I
think that that's part of that that art of officiating
the game. And and and again, I think you try
to you try to guard against that human nature of
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I don't want to be part of the story at
the end, but you could be part of the story
if it's an egregious mess. And so that's it's a
it's a balance there.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
All right.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I do have to go back then to college football
because at one of the cot tosses it became very
apparent that the official was aware of the camera. And
I believe it was the Cotton Bowl between OHW Stayed
in Miami, which that was a game for the most
part and I think we've become accustomed to feeling this way.
There weren't many flags, and it's all as if we
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would rather see a game without any flags than flags
that become the story of it, or too many flags,
and so people tend to be like, hey, I was
a well officiated game.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Is there a thought to that at least?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I know you did.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
We're talking NFL, but even in college football, when you
look at just how some goal games have.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Gone, no question. Look, if you gave me a choice
of those three things, I'm going to choose the game
without a lot of flags, right, And I think we'd
all agree with that. But you hope that it's the
two teams that are determining how many flags there are,
and it's not just the officials keeping the flags in
their pocket, because inevitably, and I did this for a
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long time, and you would get coaches questions, and I
do it with Colin too, it's inevitably those games where
there aren't a lot of flags, both teams are sending
in like fifty plays where what was this? This was
holding this was? So I don't know if the officials
are keenly aware of Hey, look, we don't want to
be the story. I know it's the CFP. I know
(35:00):
it's it's obviously these are the biggest, the biggest games
of the year. Again, they just got to continue to
officiate the game the same way. The challenge with college
is that you do have kind of differences amongst the conferences,
like the ACC officiating program and the CC in the
Big Ten, and now you've got certain conferences officiating teams,
(35:23):
but maybe those schools haven't seen those officials and maybe
there's a little bit of a different into the philosophy.
So that's always a challenge as well. But I think
the cfp's gone well so far, and knock on wood,
I think, you know, the next we've got three games left,
I think it'll go well.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I'm just going to shout, Dean, where are you going
to be this weekend? What's the schedule looking like?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
We got Niners Eagle Sunday four twenty five Eastern.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
There you go, yeah, nice, you'll be out in Philly
for that.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
We'll be Yeah, we'll be out in Philly. We're probably
you know, we're going to hit up maybe an Italian
spot with my guy Big Dom Saturday. Who knows, well
it's going to be, it'll be, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Does everyone know Big Dom?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
I think everybody knows Big Dom. Big domb is for
those who don't know who Big Dom is, he's the
he's the eagle security guy and he's but he's also
he's a fixer, right, He's just he's not just the
security guy. He does a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
So I mean, you know he's a Penn State or too. Absolutely,
just so you know, you know, and if he was
on the sideline, I wouldn't have that wouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Been headline alterations too.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well you know what that is true. Maybe I didn't
get kicked off a sideline Dom did, so I'm a
little up on him. Well, actually I did get kicked off.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Hey for tell Dean, how many shirts Tommy used to
wear back in the day.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Oh man, it had to be about eight nine, but
he's layered eight and nine. He used to wear like yeah,
like yeah, like eight or nine T shirts and and
his jeans and his timberlands. But he was my dude,
big dude, Like we used to always walk the class,
had great conversations. No, just he wore that that was
(37:06):
his style. He wore like five six T shirts.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Like I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him about Pat.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Like five or six they ask him. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I like that, Dean.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
We always appreciate it, uh, and we will do it
again next week.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
There you.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
With us here on Fox Sports Radio, Man, he was
spicy today, Dean, why not just bringing the heat then?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Why not be spicy? Why not bring the heat because
I don't have no spicy or no heat unless you're
talking about some Louisiana hot sauce. Yeah, you want that
most valuable? Poor, Mine is original Louisiana hot sauce. I'll
dress my favorite eats up with ease, and so can you.
Nacho's Pizza gumbo. That taste is gonna score. That's mine,
(37:52):
p That's Louisiana hot sauce. Make sure you buy some.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
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Speaker 3 (40:24):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Tons of incredible.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Here's the left over the railroad.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
What do we got?
Speaker 10 (40:33):
Oh my goodness, I saw this left over today and
I'm curious if anyone would be, you know, willing to
do this as a player, But could you squad a Jaguar?
Trevor Lawrence was out at a bar. He's the quarterback
of the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are going to the playoffs,
by the way, very exciting. One random fan, I would say,
(40:53):
saw him at the bar and instead of asking for
an autograph, she asked if she could squat him, so
she threw him over.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
She's she's like at least two feet shorter than this man.
Speaker 10 (41:04):
She is very short, but apparently she is a She
is a veteran, a Navy veteran, so she's got some
muscle on her. She did a good Yeah, very cool.
So that was kind of nifty.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yeah, you guys ever get squatted when he went out.
He's two hundred and fifteen pounds too. Okay, oh nuts.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
No, what no, that would be the quick answer.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
Okay, maybe she's wife material right, he's married?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Oh never mind, Yeah, he's there. You go, all right.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
He's got a grill and everything. I wonder how his wife.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Let's let's lunge on out of this one.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
Well, the regular season is officially over and the players
are looking to relax and enjoy their downtime. One player, specifically,
Jamar Chase, is off to can Couon.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
You want to go to everybody except me, and I'm
going to enjoy myself.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
And I'll have nothing else to do, so I'm taking
myself there.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
I play socks.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Is that where Mango deck is? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, can't.
It doesn't suck. The place I went to suck suck
when I went there. Enjoy yourself, Jamar, be safe out there.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Why that's a dangerous or something.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
No, I mean every place has a dangerous place, of course,
Or to just be safe enjoy yourself so far? What
you mean? Can Coon is a fun place.
Speaker 10 (42:37):
I like Cancuon. They have cheap shots and homemade tortillas.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh it's so good and it's wonder winter break is
coming to an end, so he's going to miss the traffic.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
That was the selling point. You guys do homemade tortilla.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
He is, alright, I'm in yikes, all right, yeah, I
means Mexico City might make more sense for that.
Speaker 10 (43:03):
I guess I could just go to your house, right Jonas,
All
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Right, bang bang heart right back
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