January 6, 2026 • 42 mins
In Hour 2, the guys get into the NCAA and its transfer portal as a fair number of notable players have entered it, which the guys have dubbed a portal party. Plus, the guys talk more on the transfers, Riley Leonard as the Colts QB, and more!!
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Speaker 5 (01:06):
Did you guys see that game? The Illinois State Montana
State final?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That final like sequence was drunk? It was wild?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah, saw it? Yes, that's wow? Man?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Did you not watch it?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Oh dude?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
All right?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Was really it was really just about bad. But go ahead, gut.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Okay, let me give you the forty five second recap talk.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, Yeah, it was Illinois State's first shot at a
national championship, all right. Now, it was Montana State's second shot,
but I think first since like the nineteen eighties. So
with fifty seven seconds left, Illinois State's lining up for
a field goal to go ahead. It gets blocked, all right,
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Montana State gets it back. They then pushed down the field.
It's twenty twenty eight at this point, and it's I
want to say third and I don't know ten maybe
something like that, and the quarterback's not ready for the center,
you know, fires a shotgun snap it goes back like
twenty five yards. So now it's fourth down from Montana State.
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They have to punt back. Illinois State end up just
running the clock out, even though they had about you know,
twelve seconds to work with they could have taken in
like another play.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
So they go into ot.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Illinois State ends up like kind of working the way
quickly into the end zone, pat blocked, so now they're
only up six. Montana State gets the football three kind
of crappy plays.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
It's now fourth and ten. Dude drops a dime to
go tied up thirty four.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
To thirty four, and then Montana State kicks a pat
to win a national championship. The FCF's level, it was awesome,
but it was also like some bad football at certain
points too, But it was fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
God it's a heartbreaker. Wow, all right, what you got?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
It's just wild that like Illinois State had.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Multiple chances of winning their first ever nationale and I
feel bad for a little quarterback.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I guess it was like last name, I don't want
to mess it up, but he was.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He was going wild on the sidelines, like he was
very upset. Written Well, I was gonna say like that
feel like you know, I was gonna say written house
wasn't one hundred said positive?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
That name might you know trigger some people, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I was about to say who who cares? But outside
of I guess sports geeks, like who came sports?
Speaker 7 (03:30):
We'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I love football, I'm not and this is like the
last little dose we get, right. We got NFL coming up,
but then that's gonna be gone and I'll be watching
college tape.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
But think about think about how many of those the
us flan Think about how many of those guys last
night that's it.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
For their football career, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, and like whatever side you're on, you got to
live with that for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Like that's wrong with that, that's think about, Like they
could have been historic, Like Illinois State's run was not
necessarily predictable.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, they're like the four seed, but still like
they could have been It could have been historic. It
could have been like an all time you know, just
like season for them, and instead it ends in quite
possibly the worst way possible.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yeah, it's brutal.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Well, that's interesting because that sounded interesting listening to it,
because to me, that was more interesting than.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Watching the game.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And to that point, pretty much any other bowl game
outside of the Bowl Playoff Series, the playoff series that's
going on.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Just don't find any unless unless it's Penn State playing
in it. Like I watched the pin Stripe Ball Big Time,
which if Penn State wasn't playing, I wouldn't have watched that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Who threw out the first pitch for that game?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Don't know, didn't know they did a first pitch for
it either.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
I don't either. I know they gave, I know they gave.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
I think he's being funny. Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
I mean, but I'm just saying it's literally that not
interesting to me that I wouldn't even know. And if
they did throw up.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
By the way, it was was the Duke's Mail Bowl
on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Did they Why why game?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Well, because you might get somebody flipping through channels, like, oh,
there's a different audiences, different audience, let's take a chance,
different height. You might be flipping through the channels and
see it now because now you see now you know
what happens. Now you get an opportunity because you got
these multiple screen setups and you're looking at it and
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they show the logos of the game. So it's not
even like old school. And this is more interesting to
me actually than even the games themselves, is that now
the way you can go on to the guide and
see what's out there and what's on there.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I can watch.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
A college game if it's on the same day as
a pro game because I have multiple views on my
television as someone who's old and not really into technology
all like that.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
I do have tcls.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, I do have TCL but I think it's YouTube
TV that does it. It might be a couple other ones,
but the one I use the YouTube and I find
that to be phenomenal. So, you know, you see the
logo of the game, the two teams playing, you might
watch it. I mean, I gen'er really don't, but you might.
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I'm just saying there's a chance there.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
You go.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Well, I'm glad you was able to give us a
recap of that game, because I was.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was wild, dude, and I was sitting there like
I just I was like, how's this happening? Like both teams,
the shots win it both. I'm just more crazy stuff
that doesn't happen very often. I would have game saying
that to myself, why am I watching? By the way,
correction is happening? Duke's mailbow was on Friday.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
That was on Friday. It was on Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'll just say I don't think it was on Sunday,
but I knew it was after the quarterfinal games.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But there were NFL games on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, yeah,
so they changed days. They jumped on on college football.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I do like the Thursday Friday semi final move, Like
I'm glad they didn't go try and you know, fit
both in one day or anything like that. Like, I
like the fact that we're going to stagger it and
you're going to get back to back nights of actual
corinktime games.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean, it's a separate conversation than what I think
we wanted to talk about, but there does, or there
should be a conversation.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
About like what are we doing with these games?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, the National Championship's not played until was January nineteenth,
a Monday. I mean it extends out so far. We
talked about the issue of the transfer portal and four
teams that are still in it have to juggle both,
which is completely unfair. I mean, imagine the AFCNFC championship game.
We're like, yep, French, she starts for the NFL.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Now, it's like, what.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So that these teams get penalized for you know, trying
to play off to win their confence championship and go
to Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
That's how it works.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
When does the portal close?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I believe it's like the middle of January. It's only
like I want to say, like two or three weeks.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
It's not as much. I don't think it's as long,
or maybe it's till the end of the month. Off
the double check.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I mean, because there's like now conversations if we were
supposed to talk about something different, but do it. I mean,
they're they're the whole conversation of people getting upset with
players who are now opting out of playing in the playoffs,
right right, opting out of playing in the college football
playoff because they're entering the transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But but for what it's worth, if you lose your opportunity,
if you were planning on transferring and you lose your
opportunity to go into the portal because your team continues
to win, who's right and who's wrong?
Speaker 6 (09:02):
You know?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is the kid wrong for opting out of playing so
that they can go into the portal? Like I saw
a story, That's what I'm saying. I saw a story
and I was like, well, when does the portal close?
I didn't look to see what they exactly, But even
if just say, even for the sake of saying the
portal closes literally immediately after following the championship game, you've
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lost your opportunity to get into the portal. Like I heard,
there's a crazy percentage. I don't know how true it is,
but if it's true, I heard that less than fifty
percent of the guys that go into the portal get
back to a school that they left to transfer into
a different school. Like, you're not getting a scholarship offer
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at a major at a power for school when you
go into the portal, like, So, the further out you
get from going into the port and seeing where you
can go, there's more and more people committing to the
new schools that they hit the portal for, less and
less scholarships to be had. So the longer you wait,
if you're in the playoffs, the longer you wait, the
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less opportunities you're going to have to get a scholarship
somewhere else. And then there's the whole conversation. Y'all saw
what Georgia just did. Is that is that true? Q?
That they did a contract with a kid. The kid
hit the portal and now they're suing him for the
balance of what they oweing for what Yeah, what he's owed.
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And it's like like, so, now that's a conversation like
they had. They didn't pay him, they didn't pay him
the money, but he has to pay them back.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Welcome to the real world.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
They have to pay Yeah, I made them back the
money that's in the contract that he hasn't even been
paid out yet.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
There's two ways of looking at this, and so real quick,
January sixteenth is the end of the transfer portal window.
So it goes from January second to January, so it
ends before the college I mean it ends before the
college season ends.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Correct. Correct. On that note, I think there's two ways
of looking at it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Some people would say like, hey, we need some rules
regulations in because players shouldn't be sub subject to this,
right And obviously you look at the NFL level and
I keep referencing that because this is this is a
level of football that's acting like professional sports but doesn't
have everything in place that it needs in order to
operate in the best manner. So in the collective bargaining agreement,
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those things are laid out right. So you know, if
you you know, the circumstance that's playing out at Georgia
with that player and the collective, for example, would have
wouldn't have happened at the NFL level, or if it
would have been, it would have been clearly defined how
it's going to happen. We don't have that, so because
there's been no involvement by the federal government, because we've
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got a very weak uh you know, overseeing power if
you will, of the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
You get to a point where.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're saying yourself, okay, well, this Georgia situation actually will
then create some sort of guardrails or some sort of
precedent for how things are going to operate moving forward.
Like if Georgia and they collective end up being successful
and making a legal case that gets the kid to
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and gets every kid from now on moving forward to
second guess going into the portal, if he's got to payback,
you know, call it damages whatever you want. Right, If
that's the case and it sets that precedent, then every collective,
every single school.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Will have that in their contracts.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So it may curtail a little bit of the movement
that we see where right now we have four thousand,
you know, student athletes or at least college football players
who put their name in the portal. And I would
say this on that note, there's one side of the
conversation where there's no way of like increasing your market value,
which Brendan Soysby, for those who don't know you, used
to play quarterback at Cincinnati. He's going to stay within.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
The Big twelve. But he's going to Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And if you didn't know, ask some people walking around
in New York City because Cody Campbell put up his big
banner up there has you know, big advertisement for in
Times Square and announcing the signing, announcing that's going there
reportedly five million. I've seen some people estimates say hey,
it's the closer to four, but that is what now
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the market is set at. So every other quarterback that's
looked at as you know, on a blue blood team
that's looking and trying to go and win a national
championship is going to say, I'm as good as Soresby,
I had better stats than him last year. I want
that contract. And by the way, every agent should be
pushing for that. That's how kind of the free market works,
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and it really kind of sorts itself out. Now will
he live up to that contract?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Will he be better?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And Barren Moreton, I don't know, but Texas Tech thinks
he's going to be Cody Campbell, their financial backer, their alum.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
He thinks they're going to be.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But that's how you create more value for every other
player at every other school, at that position. You have
to test it every single year, and these players have
the ability to do so. So anyone with any sort
of financial mind would say, so you're telling me these
are basically all just one year contracts and every single
year I can test free agency. Yeah, Like as an agent,
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as an advisor, you tell them, okay, go test the
market if it's only about money, if that's the only
thing that matters to you, you know, because you have
to use that threat in order to get the maximum
amount of dollars you can while you can.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And I got to be honest with you, like, I'm at.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
A crossroads with how I look at this, because like,
who am I to sit there and say any player
or family you shouldn't try to get as many dollars
as you can in college, even if people might say
it might look detrimental to what you could you could
make in the NFL. You're not there yet, like until
you exhaust all your eligibility and all your earning power
at college. If you're able to make millions, why wouldn't you,
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Like there's no guarantees when you get the NFL, you
get drafted to a crappy organization could completely change the
dynamics of how your career goes.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So it's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But I think you're also seeing a lot of moving
with how the stuff's going around in regards to like
that contract reference like you made. It actually will shape
kind of how things work moving forward.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I started thinking to myself, all right, let me let
me start with the kid that opted out. He plays
for Oregon too, and I actually know him. My coach
is his older brother who plays for the New England
Patriots now.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
But I almost feel like there should.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Be an exception made for which I don't know how
that works, because you don't know how far a team
is going to go. Maybe if you enter the playoffs,
if you're a team that makes it into the playoffs
and you're in the playoff field, those kids can enter
the portal and actually get a scholarship to a different
team and still be able to participate in in the playoff.
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I think in my mind, I felt like that's a
good compromise. And if your coaches aren't petty, they'll still
play you instead of benching you. But if they don't
play you, then you just go ahead and and leave,
like you opt out. That's what I thought about with
the whole idea of you know, opting out to go
into the portal if you're in the playoffs. But then
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this contract situation that I saw, There's two ways I
looked at it. One is, that's got to be a
red line item in the contract, Like it's got to
be red line, Like we're not We're not signing a
contract that says if we entered a portal, that we're
responsible to pay money that we you know, the kid
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hasn't received yet. Like that's you got to read the
small print and you got to negotiate your contract. That
was the first thing I thought. Then the second thing
I thought was, or you guarantee the money, Like if
you're guaranteeing that money, then you can get the money back, Like, okay,
now I.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Can do an amendment.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
We can we can negotiate a you know, getting out of.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
The contract, Like Okay, we're guaranteed X.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Amount of dollars and I want to go into the portal,
I go into the portal. Then that means that the
amount of money that is owed that you want back,
that is being paid back to you based upon it
being guaranteed. So I wouldn't have a problem with that.
And that's something that agents have to be aware of now.
And I use that with air quotes loosely because you're
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now talking about a contract, like what else is in
those contracts? Like language wise that would would say that,
Like I look at my son's contract, So I'm like
in that situation right now, I'm in that scenario and
my son is actually doing a new contract with Penn State,
right I look at the small print, and then I
have a lawyer go over and look at the small
print and say, give me your interpretation of what you're
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reading because this is all so new and you got
to pay attention to the small print of what's in
these contracts. I think the risk that you run into
if you Georgia, when you're looking at these high profile
players and they're looking at your university that sends out
a tremendous red flag in the trust situation. Right, if
I'm a family and I'm looking at Georgia, I have
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to trust issue now.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Like that's unless they said that.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Clearly to the kid and his family that okay, you
do know if you hit the transfer portal, you have
to pay back this money that is in the contract
for you to receive for the amount of time that
you're going.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
To be here.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So if that's over a three year period of time,
if it's over a four year period of time, two years,
whatever it may be. If it's not a one year contract,
if you're trying to get me here, keep me here
for three to four years, then that needs to be
to me. That needs to be disclosed during the conversations
of we're offering you to come to our school and
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here's here are the details. Now, while that's not you
don't have to do that. I think that that is
a tremendous that's a red flag against Georgia.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
And I would say it's a red flag.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think it kind of depends right on you know,
if if the if he's already gotten the money or
earned out the money, like let's so it's a long
winded conversation. I don't know how much time we have
for it. You know, the CSC, the college, you know,
College Sports Commission. There's certain guidelines in which these payments
that come from third party in al's have to be earned.
They can't just be like, hey, here's here you go. Right,
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There's there's a revenue share course that comes from the university.
There's also a third party collective and this contracts can
be signed over to certain universities. And again, not to
get in the weeds, but like every state's got different
NIL laws, everyone's kind of operating and how they see
their best suited and it's why a lot of people
have called for like federal government involvement, so everyone's on
the same level playing field. But what I think is
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the issue in this case, and again I don't really
know it that well, but Damon Wilson is the player
you're referring to.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
He's an edge rusher. He's transferred to Missouri.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But it's legal battle and they're looking for liquidated damages
over money that he had already been paid out from
like the Classic City Collective. And so the issue with
it is is if he's already been paid those funds. Okay,
now that changes the conversation. But yeah, you're right if
I was under impression the article that I read it
stated that he got paid thirty thousand dollars, But they're
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suing him for the remainder of like a five hundred
thousand dollars contract, and he has been paid the money.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
So if he's been paid it, that's different. It looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And again here's what I'm saying is it looks like
they're again I don't know the specifics to it, but
it's over like the three hundred and ninety thousand of
that five hundred thousand, So he's obviously been paid more
than thirty at least according to whatever this report is.
But the point is is they're basically just saying like, hey,
you can't sign these contracts and then be in breach
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of them.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
And it goes back initially to the point of.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What you said about agents. These guys aren't certified, and
you hear coaches talk about it. They're not like in
the NFL, for example, if you played, if you had
seven accredited seasons or more, you can apply to then
take the test to eventually become a representative you know,
that's part of what the Union has deemed to be
the line of demarcation for players who want to try
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to represent other players. They feel like that length of
a career that many contract negotiations give them the ability
to then do that for other players. And there's all
sorts of stipulations put in place for those agents at
the NFL level to be certified right through the CBA
or excuse me, through the Union. You don't have that
in college football. So again, you know, to what LeVar
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is saying, you've got sometimes aunts, uncles, You've got other
people who aren't using an attorney or they're using a
very inexperienced agent who is not reading through all these clauses. Right,
It's not like fine sprint that's really small at the
bottom of the page. It's clauses that they're not reading
and understanding what the legal interpretation is or what they're
putting their clients at risks to.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
So again, it's a bunch of legal jargon. We can
get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The greater discussion point is like this case will set
a precedent for how players move moving forward, how schools
will work moving forward, because you know you can say, well, Hey,
you know other families, and you know they're gonna be
very concerned about going to Georgia moving forward. The problem
is if this is, if this is successful for Georgia,
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every other school and every other collect is gonna start
putting in It's gonna be standard. It's gonna be standard
language within their contracts, because they don't want to waste
money either on a guy who's basically gonna sign up
to a contract that want to go somewhere else. Like
they're trying to set in rules and frameworks to penalize
players for just signing contracts and then jumping out which
they should checking out.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
They should, They definitely should. But I was under the
impression that it was not paid out, like the article
that I saw, and it wasn't even an article, it
was a social post. I saw a post, so like
just you know, yeah, I didn't dig deep into it.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
From what this is saying, one hundred and ten thousand
of it has been paid out of the five hundred thousand,
and that's why they're kind of coming back for the
rest of it which they had put in, you know,
And again I don't we don't know the specifics because
you know, I don't I don't know the kid or
the family and all that, so.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
I don't want to make any like allegations. I'm just
telling you.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
What I just I just know this. If you're on
the hook and I'm sorry jump point.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Nor if you're on the hook for the total amount
and you did not receive the total amount, that's strange
to me that unless it's in the contract that says
you are here for this amount of time and this
is basically the buyout of you getting out of your contract.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Don't you think, though, big picture, maybe this is a
good thing, because maybe this will let people know, hey,
like you got to do your due diligence. Otherwise there's
ramifications for you wanting to run wild. Absolutely like That's
why I look at it and go, this could actually
turn out to be a good thing for the entire situation,
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the portal, all this. And it sucks that this kid's
being made the example or that he's the example because
he could have gotten some bad info or bad advice
from one of these you know, you know, fake agents
who are out there trying to represent these guys that
you guys have talked about. I just look at it
and I go this at least sets Georgia up to
be Hey, we may look like the bad guy right now,
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but big picture, there's probably a lot of schools and
a lot of people involved that are like, all right,
this is what could happen, and at least we have
some sort of a point we can get to to
where we say, hey, this is how this could go wrong,
and this is how this could go sideways for you
if you don't do your job on your end.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So I look at it.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
I don't think it's a bad thing, and.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I don't think it's a bad thing, but I do
think that it could be damaging if what I'm saying
is accurate. If what I read was accurate, that could
be damaging. And then now that just has to become
a bigger conversation. If you're doing a contract and they're
asking you to pay back money, is that you've never
been paid?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
That's a problem. I heard it. That's a problem.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I also heard part of the issue and the reason
why things fell apart between this player and Georgia is
because he drove the speed limit.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You always set up your sarcasm with that, What do
you mean your your setups are so like, let's go
to break. I saw a social photo break, which it's
a funny. It was a funny it was a funny
line though it was it was a one liner, and
it was a funny one liner. I gotta tell you,
because I mean, they do not drive the speed limit
apparently at Georgia.
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We'll get into that for you right here on FSR.
SO Dealer's Choice. Here we can go portal party, all right,
(28:58):
or we can talk about the situation in South Beach,
all right. So Bradon t quinn, you are this that
probably Warren's more conversation. Okay, so you're thinking portal party here, No,
you're thinking to us, well, we're you know, look at
clock purposes, clock purposes. I'm just saying, do we have
enough time to get into this, uh, this whole conversation.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Do you want to say before the top of the
next hour.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean there's a the quarterback. We're making sure
the quarterback has you know, adequate time to make his
points about the quarterback situation in Miami.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I mean that's actually not what he's referring to.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Okay, Oh, I just was just doing what I was doing.
I don't know what what Jonas was doing. I was
being mindful of the fact I wanted to protect my quarterback.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's my quarterback. I wanted to protect my quarterbacks time.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
That's all. Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was Actually we actually had planned a portal party
segment to do kind of like a roundup. So that's
more he was alluding to and talking to me about that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
A So, so what are you thinking you want to
go a portal party here. I'm gonna screw that up.
I try and say that many times over portal portal
party sounds like you're saying, yeah, that sounds like, but
we can do it here.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
All right, we got the Oh, we got imaging and
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Speaker 7 (30:18):
Oh, I ain't ready ready.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Let's fire away the Lorena, the cittate Lorena production.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Oh, here we go, It's time.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah over here, Grob Verona, cowboy round.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Let's start off with group Bay. That's quarterback Brettan Sores.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We we talked about it earlier, leaving Cincinnati, departing to go
to Texas Tech and uh reportedly for a huge payday.
They were reportedly saying five million dollars for this upcoming season.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Yeah that's me.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
They look, this is an offensive scheme fit.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Will he be able to get Texas Tech past where
they got this year?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say Brendan sorosby Baron Morton kind of similar players, honestly,
and watching some of their tape and watching this year,
so we shall see next up on the list. And
this is a big one, and I love this move.
Former Iowa State quarterback rock O Beck. He's joining Matt
Campbell at Penn State. Oh yeah, this is a great git.
(31:26):
I love this kid.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I think it's tough.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think he's gritty. He brings stability to the quarterback
position in year one, and I think he's always been
able to do more with less during his time at
Iowa State. Excuse me, So this is huge I think
for Matt Campbell's he tries to build out the culture
of what he's making there at Penn State. Next up
and this one, to me, he is the most interesting.
(31:49):
So former TCU quarterback Josh Hoover, he's already selected IU
and which, by the way, a couple of these could
be up in the air still until the ink is dry.
Hoover really good player, a very talented passer. If you
look at Kurt Signetti and what he's done the past
two years, curs Rooke the first year they get to
the playoff. Now this year with Fernanda Mendoza, he wins
(32:12):
the Heisman. They're playing the semi final. The dude knows
how to pick which quarterback is the right fit for
what he's looking for.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
So this gives I you a huge boost.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
An older upper classmen side player who's going to come
in right away start and at a lyft. And also
they got wide receiver Nick marsh from Michigan State, another
big body target to replace some of what they will
lose with a guy like Elijah Sarratt for example. And
then finally former notiname backup Kenny Minshe originally looked like
he was committing to Nebraska to replace Dylan Royola, and
now it looks like he's going to go to Kentucky.
(32:46):
So Kentucky gets a quarterback with a ton of upsides
on armtown ability. It should go nicely with Will Stein,
their new head coach, the offensive coordinator from Oregon, should
go well with what they're going to ask him to
do to at the quarterback spot there in Lexington. So
that's your roundup transfer pool. There's a lot more to go.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
But so then, what was the report that Sam Levitt
was going to Kentucky was that.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That that apparently most likely was about money if you
had for being honest, Like, here's what I think Sam
Levit's doing. I think Sam Levitt is waiting to see
how things play out through the rest of the college
football playoff. Like Miami has deep pockets. Beec's gonna you know,
move on after this year. You know, that would be
(33:33):
a potential destination. There's other places that obviously are looking
for the services we talked about, Like depending on ty
Simpson's draft grade, maybe Bama then is in the mix.
You know, Sam Levitt will be one of the more
talked about, you know, quarterbacks in the portal given his
production the last two years, So there will be some
there will be some movement potentially, you know, Underwood staying
(33:56):
at Michigan. I had a good conversation with Kyle Whittingham.
But in regards to at least what's left out there,
Sam Levitt still hasn't decided. Dylan Ryola still han't decided.
There's a number of other quarterbacks that are in the mix.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I just.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
The whole thing is bananas to me, Like just the
amount of the idea that it's not even the dollar
amount that's going out to these guys, just all of
these just the movement there.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
You know, one year you're here, one year you're there.
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now more of the job is trying to convince somebody
to stick around that it is convinced somebody to.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Try and retention man there's a retention budget.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And look, the reality is most corporations realize this too,
especially especially if you're in the tech industry, right, Like,
you don't want to lose top talent, So you have
a certain amount set aside for retention, you know, for
bonuses and trying to you know, allow your employees to
be able to make more, you know, as more companies
start up, trying to pull them away, pry them away.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
God, could you imagine you guys go going back to
Penn State, Notre Dame after every year asking for more,
just don't want more, like I need more?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
They give me more of that?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Would you be Boston balls for more cash?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
You're at first of all, me and Joe weren't that.
We weren't close when when I was in school. So
how would that conversation have.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Gone with it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Oh don't know, And I'm glad I don't have to
answer it, That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I mean, I told did I ever tell y'all the
story I was? I was thinking about transferring after my
freshman year. Where'd you have gone? I went and hung out.
I didn't go on a visit. I went and hung
out with one of my friends.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
At PITT. I was going to go back home and
go play for PITT.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I thought, you're gonna say in Miami something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
No, no, no, I was going to go back home.
And and so Miami was actually Miami, Florida State, Miami
where my top two picks pitting Penn State were my
my next picks.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
And once I got closer to.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Leaving for sor of making a decision, it became more
about the accessibility for my family. So it would have
been difficult for them to.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Get to Florida all the time.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
And so I started kind of taking a harder look
at at other schools. So it's funny, like I'm sitting
there dealing with, you know, personality, clashing with with my
head coach, and I didn't know if I would ever play.
There was a dude ahead of me that was a
red shirt freshman that was two times state champion in
(36:43):
one hundred meters, like four time state champion and wrestling
like dude was a stud white dude.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Hell yeah, of top Brady.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
So you're talking about a white dude at linebacker, you
that has accolades that are phenomenal, And I couldn't beat him.
Out like freshman year, I was behind a fifth year
senior and he and I were the backups to a
fifth year senior. But coming out of that freshman year
in the spring, it was clear that I was second
(37:15):
on the depth chart and was not moving.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Who is this unicorn? His name is.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Aaron Gatton and his son is really good now too, apparently.
And so anyway, I thought about transferring, and that was
before the portal and all that stuff was a thing,
but I chose to stick it out. You know, had
a couple really really good people giving me great advice
and just you know, the community meant more.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
To me than anything else.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
So I started really taking a good, good heart look
at more.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Than just football, you know how.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah that like come to Jesus moment where you said earlier,
like this is it for him, Like it's over, Like
once this game is over, it's over.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I started looking at it like once it's over, it's over.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
So, you know, I'm just going really really focus in
on I had some really really great relationships, and I
needed to really focus in on the fact that there
were some really really great people within the world of
academia that really thought very highly.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
I mean, and I needed to.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Really pay attention to what I wanted to do for
my future outside of the game of go figure, outside
of football, but football wise, I really did think about
transferring to go somewhere else because I didn't think that
I would ever break the starting lineup.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
You Held firm, There you go.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Yeah, held firm.
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We will get back into the NFL conversation of another
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type coming up top of next hour. But I mean, Brady,
what's your problem with the colts?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Like, what's what's the issue here? I mean, Riley Leonard
goes out and you know, he's slinging it around a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, I'll ask you guys, because my observation was Riley
goes out there and plays phenomenal, and I'm like, all right,
why didn't I mean, he played well enough to get
them a win. You know, they scored thirty points. I
kind of watched it just go why why didn't why
didn't you just.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Let him play?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Why did you need to bring back Philip Rivers like
the deep balls, his ability to run and.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Create and make plays with his legs.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Like I'm not trying to be critical of the philip
Rivers play necessarily, but why did they feel like they
needed to go with him, Like Roley Leonard was a
draft pick that you made, and you could have gotten
a better idea of what he's capable of doing instead
of one game, he could have had a much greater
sample size and.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Maybe he would have won you some of those games.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
They were still trying to make the playoffs when they
brought him in, Right Rivers. Yeah, yeah, and it's.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Like chances were slim at that point.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Okay, I look at what I said that when they
were talking about bringing them in, Why are you bringing
them in? I said, saying thing, But if you're saying
it retrospectively, like all right, see.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
What it's like after watching, because the logical thought is
they didn't feel like the rookie was ready. Maybe they
don't one of they don't feel like he gives him
the best chance to win. Then you go back and
watch that and go wit a second.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
He looked really looks great. What are we doing over here?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And it wasn't like he was just dinking and dunk
and he was slinging it too. I mean, and by
the way, like the rivers couldn't do that. Wouldn't you
think that ers would have saw that. Notice that if
she was standing on the sideline taking notes store in practice,
this is the problem, Like like you're you're you're talking
about this in terms of a normal all the way
(41:31):
there organization. The Colts do weird stuff, man, and they
have for years, Like they just did Jeff Saturday the
quarterback carousel. Like it's just it's a weird run organization,
and it appears it still is.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
I mean, the river stuff was fun, it really was.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
I'm just I felt like Saturday stuff it's fun too.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
You always got to bring it up there.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, stupid just Saturday, that's Tuesday, Saturday.
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Speaker 5 (01:06):
Did you guys see that game? The Illinois State Montana
State final?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
That final like sequence was drunk? It was wild?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah, saw it? Yes, that's wow? Man?
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Did you not watch it?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Oh dude?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
All right?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Was really it was really just about bad. But go ahead, gut.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Okay, let me give you the forty five second recap talk.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, Yeah, it was Illinois State's first shot at a
national championship, all right. Now, it was Montana State's second shot,
but I think first since like the nineteen eighties. So
with fifty seven seconds left, Illinois State's lining up for
a field goal to go ahead. It gets blocked, all right,
(01:51):
Montana State gets it back. They then pushed down the field.
It's twenty twenty eight at this point, and it's I
want to say third and I don't know ten maybe
something like that, and the quarterback's not ready for the center,
you know, fires a shotgun snap it goes back like
twenty five yards. So now it's fourth down from Montana State.
(02:14):
They have to punt back. Illinois State end up just
running the clock out, even though they had about you know,
twelve seconds to work with they could have taken in
like another play.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
So they go into ot.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Illinois State ends up like kind of working the way
quickly into the end zone, pat blocked, so now they're
only up six. Montana State gets the football three kind
of crappy plays.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
It's now fourth and ten. Dude drops a dime to
go tied up thirty four.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
To thirty four, and then Montana State kicks a pat
to win a national championship. The FCF's level, it was awesome,
but it was also like some bad football at certain
points too, But it was fun to watch.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
God it's a heartbreaker. Wow, all right, what you got?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
It's just wild that like Illinois State had.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Multiple chances of winning their first ever nationale and I
feel bad for a little quarterback.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I guess it was like last name, I don't want
to mess it up, but he was.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
He was going wild on the sidelines, like he was
very upset. Written Well, I was gonna say like that
feel like you know, I was gonna say written house
wasn't one hundred said positive?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
That name might you know trigger some people, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I was about to say who who cares? But outside
of I guess sports geeks, like who came sports?
Speaker 7 (03:30):
We'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I love football, I'm not and this is like the
last little dose we get, right. We got NFL coming up,
but then that's gonna be gone and I'll be watching
college tape.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
But think about think about how many of those the
us flan Think about how many of those guys last
night that's it.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
For their football career, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, and like whatever side you're on, you got to
live with that for the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Like that's wrong with that, that's think about, Like they
could have been historic, Like Illinois State's run was not
necessarily predictable.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, they're like the four seed, but still like
they could have been It could have been historic. It
could have been like an all time you know, just
like season for them, and instead it ends in quite
possibly the worst way possible.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yeah, it's brutal.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Well, that's interesting because that sounded interesting listening to it,
because to me, that was more interesting than.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Watching the game.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And to that point, pretty much any other bowl game
outside of the Bowl Playoff Series, the playoff series that's
going on.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Just don't find any unless unless it's Penn State playing
in it. Like I watched the pin Stripe Ball Big Time,
which if Penn State wasn't playing, I wouldn't have watched that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Who threw out the first pitch for that game?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Don't know, didn't know they did a first pitch for
it either.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
I don't either. I know they gave, I know they gave.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
I think he's being funny. Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
I mean, but I'm just saying it's literally that not
interesting to me that I wouldn't even know. And if
they did throw up.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
By the way, it was was the Duke's Mail Bowl
on Sunday?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Did they Why why game?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Well, because you might get somebody flipping through channels, like, oh,
there's a different audiences, different audience, let's take a chance,
different height. You might be flipping through the channels and
see it now because now you see now you know
what happens. Now you get an opportunity because you got
these multiple screen setups and you're looking at it and
(05:42):
they show the logos of the game. So it's not
even like old school. And this is more interesting to
me actually than even the games themselves, is that now
the way you can go on to the guide and
see what's out there and what's on there.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I can watch.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
A college game if it's on the same day as
a pro game because I have multiple views on my
television as someone who's old and not really into technology
all like that.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
I do have tcls.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, I do have TCL but I think it's YouTube
TV that does it. It might be a couple other ones,
but the one I use the YouTube and I find
that to be phenomenal. So, you know, you see the
logo of the game, the two teams playing, you might
watch it. I mean, I gen'er really don't, but you might.
(06:32):
I'm just saying there's a chance there.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
You go.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Well, I'm glad you was able to give us a
recap of that game, because I was.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It was wild, dude, and I was sitting there like
I just I was like, how's this happening? Like both teams,
the shots win it both. I'm just more crazy stuff
that doesn't happen very often. I would have game saying
that to myself, why am I watching? By the way,
correction is happening? Duke's mailbow was on Friday.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
That was on Friday. It was on Friday.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'll just say I don't think it was on Sunday,
but I knew it was after the quarterfinal games.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
But there were NFL games on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, yeah,
so they changed days. They jumped on on college football.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I do like the Thursday Friday semi final move, Like
I'm glad they didn't go try and you know, fit
both in one day or anything like that. Like, I
like the fact that we're going to stagger it and
you're going to get back to back nights of actual
corinktime games.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean, it's a separate conversation than what I think
we wanted to talk about, but there does, or there
should be a conversation.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
About like what are we doing with these games?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, the National Championship's not played until was January nineteenth,
a Monday. I mean it extends out so far. We
talked about the issue of the transfer portal and four
teams that are still in it have to juggle both,
which is completely unfair. I mean, imagine the AFCNFC championship game.
We're like, yep, French, she starts for the NFL.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Now, it's like, what.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So that these teams get penalized for you know, trying
to play off to win their confence championship and go
to Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
That's how it works.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
When does the portal close?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I believe it's like the middle of January. It's only
like I want to say, like two or three weeks.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
It's not as much. I don't think it's as long,
or maybe it's till the end of the month. Off
the double check.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I mean, because there's like now conversations if we were
supposed to talk about something different, but do it. I mean,
they're they're the whole conversation of people getting upset with
players who are now opting out of playing in the playoffs,
right right, opting out of playing in the college football
playoff because they're entering the transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But but for what it's worth, if you lose your opportunity,
if you were planning on transferring and you lose your
opportunity to go into the portal because your team continues
to win, who's right and who's wrong?
Speaker 6 (09:02):
You know?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is the kid wrong for opting out of playing so
that they can go into the portal? Like I saw
a story, That's what I'm saying. I saw a story
and I was like, well, when does the portal close?
I didn't look to see what they exactly, But even
if just say, even for the sake of saying the
portal closes literally immediately after following the championship game, you've
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lost your opportunity to get into the portal. Like I heard,
there's a crazy percentage. I don't know how true it is,
but if it's true, I heard that less than fifty
percent of the guys that go into the portal get
back to a school that they left to transfer into
a different school. Like, you're not getting a scholarship offer
(09:50):
at a major at a power for school when you
go into the portal, like, So, the further out you
get from going into the port and seeing where you
can go, there's more and more people committing to the
new schools that they hit the portal for, less and
less scholarships to be had. So the longer you wait,
if you're in the playoffs, the longer you wait, the
(10:11):
less opportunities you're going to have to get a scholarship
somewhere else. And then there's the whole conversation. Y'all saw
what Georgia just did. Is that is that true? Q?
That they did a contract with a kid. The kid
hit the portal and now they're suing him for the
balance of what they oweing for what Yeah, what he's owed.
(10:31):
And it's like like, so, now that's a conversation like
they had. They didn't pay him, they didn't pay him
the money, but he has to pay them back.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Welcome to the real world.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
They have to pay Yeah, I made them back the
money that's in the contract that he hasn't even been
paid out yet.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
There's two ways of looking at this, and so real quick,
January sixteenth is the end of the transfer portal window.
So it goes from January second to January, so it
ends before the college I mean it ends before the
college season ends.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Correct. Correct. On that note, I think there's two ways
of looking at it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Some people would say like, hey, we need some rules
regulations in because players shouldn't be sub subject to this,
right And obviously you look at the NFL level and
I keep referencing that because this is this is a
level of football that's acting like professional sports but doesn't
have everything in place that it needs in order to
operate in the best manner. So in the collective bargaining agreement,
(11:25):
those things are laid out right. So you know, if
you you know, the circumstance that's playing out at Georgia
with that player and the collective, for example, would have
wouldn't have happened at the NFL level, or if it
would have been, it would have been clearly defined how
it's going to happen. We don't have that, so because
there's been no involvement by the federal government, because we've
(11:49):
got a very weak uh you know, overseeing power if
you will, of the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
You get to a point where.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're saying yourself, okay, well, this Georgia situation actually will
then create some sort of guardrails or some sort of
precedent for how things are going to operate moving forward.
Like if Georgia and they collective end up being successful
and making a legal case that gets the kid to
(12:18):
and gets every kid from now on moving forward to
second guess going into the portal, if he's got to payback,
you know, call it damages whatever you want. Right, If
that's the case and it sets that precedent, then every collective,
every single school.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Will have that in their contracts.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So it may curtail a little bit of the movement
that we see where right now we have four thousand,
you know, student athletes or at least college football players
who put their name in the portal. And I would
say this on that note, there's one side of the
conversation where there's no way of like increasing your market value,
which Brendan Soysby, for those who don't know you, used
to play quarterback at Cincinnati. He's going to stay within.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
The Big twelve. But he's going to Texas Tech.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
And if you didn't know, ask some people walking around
in New York City because Cody Campbell put up his big
banner up there has you know, big advertisement for in
Times Square and announcing the signing, announcing that's going there
reportedly five million. I've seen some people estimates say hey,
it's the closer to four, but that is what now
(13:24):
the market is set at. So every other quarterback that's
looked at as you know, on a blue blood team
that's looking and trying to go and win a national
championship is going to say, I'm as good as Soresby,
I had better stats than him last year. I want
that contract. And by the way, every agent should be
pushing for that. That's how kind of the free market works,
(13:44):
and it really kind of sorts itself out. Now will
he live up to that contract?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Will he be better?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And Barren Moreton, I don't know, but Texas Tech thinks
he's going to be Cody Campbell, their financial backer, their alum.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
He thinks they're going to be.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
But that's how you create more value for every other
player at every other school, at that position. You have
to test it every single year, and these players have
the ability to do so. So anyone with any sort
of financial mind would say, so you're telling me these
are basically all just one year contracts and every single
year I can test free agency. Yeah, Like as an agent,
(14:19):
as an advisor, you tell them, okay, go test the
market if it's only about money, if that's the only
thing that matters to you, you know, because you have
to use that threat in order to get the maximum
amount of dollars you can while you can.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And I got to be honest with you, like, I'm at.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
A crossroads with how I look at this, because like,
who am I to sit there and say any player
or family you shouldn't try to get as many dollars
as you can in college, even if people might say
it might look detrimental to what you could you could
make in the NFL. You're not there yet, like until
you exhaust all your eligibility and all your earning power
at college. If you're able to make millions, why wouldn't you,
(14:58):
Like there's no guarantees when you get the NFL, you
get drafted to a crappy organization could completely change the
dynamics of how your career goes.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
So it's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
But I think you're also seeing a lot of moving
with how the stuff's going around in regards to like
that contract reference like you made. It actually will shape
kind of how things work moving forward.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
I started thinking to myself, all right, let me let
me start with the kid that opted out. He plays
for Oregon too, and I actually know him. My coach
is his older brother who plays for the New England
Patriots now.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
But I almost feel like there should.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Be an exception made for which I don't know how
that works, because you don't know how far a team
is going to go. Maybe if you enter the playoffs,
if you're a team that makes it into the playoffs
and you're in the playoff field, those kids can enter
the portal and actually get a scholarship to a different
team and still be able to participate in in the playoff.
(16:02):
I think in my mind, I felt like that's a
good compromise. And if your coaches aren't petty, they'll still
play you instead of benching you. But if they don't
play you, then you just go ahead and and leave,
like you opt out. That's what I thought about with
the whole idea of you know, opting out to go
into the portal if you're in the playoffs. But then
(16:23):
this contract situation that I saw, There's two ways I
looked at it. One is, that's got to be a
red line item in the contract, Like it's got to
be red line, Like we're not We're not signing a
contract that says if we entered a portal, that we're
responsible to pay money that we you know, the kid
(16:45):
hasn't received yet. Like that's you got to read the
small print and you got to negotiate your contract. That
was the first thing I thought. Then the second thing
I thought was, or you guarantee the money, Like if
you're guaranteeing that money, then you can get the money back, Like, okay,
now I.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Can do an amendment.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
We can we can negotiate a you know, getting out of.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
The contract, Like Okay, we're guaranteed X.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Amount of dollars and I want to go into the portal,
I go into the portal. Then that means that the
amount of money that is owed that you want back,
that is being paid back to you based upon it
being guaranteed. So I wouldn't have a problem with that.
And that's something that agents have to be aware of now.
And I use that with air quotes loosely because you're
(17:29):
now talking about a contract, like what else is in
those contracts? Like language wise that would would say that,
Like I look at my son's contract, So I'm like
in that situation right now, I'm in that scenario and
my son is actually doing a new contract with Penn State,
right I look at the small print, and then I
have a lawyer go over and look at the small
print and say, give me your interpretation of what you're
(17:51):
reading because this is all so new and you got
to pay attention to the small print of what's in
these contracts. I think the risk that you run into
if you Georgia, when you're looking at these high profile
players and they're looking at your university that sends out
a tremendous red flag in the trust situation. Right, if
I'm a family and I'm looking at Georgia, I have
(18:13):
to trust issue now.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Like that's unless they said that.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Clearly to the kid and his family that okay, you
do know if you hit the transfer portal, you have
to pay back this money that is in the contract
for you to receive for the amount of time that
you're going.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
To be here.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So if that's over a three year period of time,
if it's over a four year period of time, two years,
whatever it may be. If it's not a one year contract,
if you're trying to get me here, keep me here
for three to four years, then that needs to be
to me. That needs to be disclosed during the conversations
of we're offering you to come to our school and
(18:53):
here's here are the details. Now, while that's not you
don't have to do that. I think that that is
a tremendous that's a red flag against Georgia.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
And I would say it's a red flag.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think it kind of depends right on you know,
if if the if he's already gotten the money or
earned out the money, like let's so it's a long
winded conversation. I don't know how much time we have
for it. You know, the CSC, the college, you know,
College Sports Commission. There's certain guidelines in which these payments
that come from third party in al's have to be earned.
They can't just be like, hey, here's here you go. Right,
(19:28):
There's there's a revenue share course that comes from the university.
There's also a third party collective and this contracts can
be signed over to certain universities. And again, not to
get in the weeds, but like every state's got different
NIL laws, everyone's kind of operating and how they see
their best suited and it's why a lot of people
have called for like federal government involvement, so everyone's on
the same level playing field. But what I think is
(19:51):
the issue in this case, and again I don't really
know it that well, but Damon Wilson is the player
you're referring to.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
He's an edge rusher. He's transferred to Missouri.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But it's legal battle and they're looking for liquidated damages
over money that he had already been paid out from
like the Classic City Collective. And so the issue with
it is is if he's already been paid those funds. Okay,
now that changes the conversation. But yeah, you're right if
I was under impression the article that I read it
stated that he got paid thirty thousand dollars, But they're
(20:22):
suing him for the remainder of like a five hundred
thousand dollars contract, and he has been paid the money.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
So if he's been paid it, that's different. It looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And again here's what I'm saying is it looks like
they're again I don't know the specifics to it, but
it's over like the three hundred and ninety thousand of
that five hundred thousand, So he's obviously been paid more
than thirty at least according to whatever this report is.
But the point is is they're basically just saying like, hey,
you can't sign these contracts and then be in breach
(20:53):
of them.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
And it goes back initially to the point of.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What you said about agents. These guys aren't certified, and
you hear coaches talk about it. They're not like in
the NFL, for example, if you played, if you had
seven accredited seasons or more, you can apply to then
take the test to eventually become a representative you know,
that's part of what the Union has deemed to be
the line of demarcation for players who want to try
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to represent other players. They feel like that length of
a career that many contract negotiations give them the ability
to then do that for other players. And there's all
sorts of stipulations put in place for those agents at
the NFL level to be certified right through the CBA
or excuse me, through the Union. You don't have that
in college football. So again, you know, to what LeVar
(21:39):
is saying, you've got sometimes aunts, uncles, You've got other
people who aren't using an attorney or they're using a
very inexperienced agent who is not reading through all these clauses. Right,
It's not like fine sprint that's really small at the
bottom of the page. It's clauses that they're not reading
and understanding what the legal interpretation is or what they're
putting their clients at risks to.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
So again, it's a bunch of legal jargon. We can
get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The greater discussion point is like this case will set
a precedent for how players move moving forward, how schools
will work moving forward, because you know you can say, well, Hey,
you know other families, and you know they're gonna be
very concerned about going to Georgia moving forward. The problem
is if this is, if this is successful for Georgia,
(22:22):
every other school and every other collect is gonna start
putting in It's gonna be standard. It's gonna be standard
language within their contracts, because they don't want to waste
money either on a guy who's basically gonna sign up
to a contract that want to go somewhere else. Like
they're trying to set in rules and frameworks to penalize
players for just signing contracts and then jumping out which
they should checking out.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
They should, They definitely should. But I was under the
impression that it was not paid out, like the article
that I saw, and it wasn't even an article, it
was a social post. I saw a post, so like
just you know, yeah, I didn't dig deep into it.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
From what this is saying, one hundred and ten thousand
of it has been paid out of the five hundred thousand,
and that's why they're kind of coming back for the
rest of it which they had put in, you know,
And again I don't we don't know the specifics because
you know, I don't I don't know the kid or
the family and all that, so.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
I don't want to make any like allegations. I'm just
telling you.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
What I just I just know this. If you're on
the hook and I'm sorry jump point.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Nor if you're on the hook for the total amount
and you did not receive the total amount, that's strange
to me that unless it's in the contract that says
you are here for this amount of time and this
is basically the buyout of you getting out of your contract.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Don't you think, though, big picture, maybe this is a
good thing, because maybe this will let people know, hey,
like you got to do your due diligence. Otherwise there's
ramifications for you wanting to run wild. Absolutely like That's
why I look at it and go, this could actually
turn out to be a good thing for the entire situation,
(23:59):
the portal, all this. And it sucks that this kid's
being made the example or that he's the example because
he could have gotten some bad info or bad advice
from one of these you know, you know, fake agents
who are out there trying to represent these guys that
you guys have talked about. I just look at it
and I go this at least sets Georgia up to
be Hey, we may look like the bad guy right now,
(24:19):
but big picture, there's probably a lot of schools and
a lot of people involved that are like, all right,
this is what could happen, and at least we have
some sort of a point we can get to to
where we say, hey, this is how this could go wrong,
and this is how this could go sideways for you
if you don't do your job on your end.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So I look at it.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
I don't think it's a bad thing, and.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I don't think it's a bad thing, but I do
think that it could be damaging if what I'm saying
is accurate. If what I read was accurate, that could
be damaging. And then now that just has to become
a bigger conversation. If you're doing a contract and they're
asking you to pay back money, is that you've never
been paid?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
That's a problem. I heard it. That's a problem.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I also heard part of the issue and the reason
why things fell apart between this player and Georgia is
because he drove the speed limit.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
You always set up your sarcasm with that, What do
you mean your your setups are so like, let's go
to break. I saw a social photo break, which it's
a funny. It was a funny it was a funny
line though it was it was a one liner, and
it was a funny one liner. I gotta tell you,
because I mean, they do not drive the speed limit
apparently at Georgia.
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SO Dealer's Choice. Here we can go portal party, all right,
(28:58):
or we can talk about the situation in South Beach,
all right. So Bradon t quinn, you are this that
probably Warren's more conversation. Okay, so you're thinking portal party here, No,
you're thinking to us, well, we're you know, look at
clock purposes, clock purposes. I'm just saying, do we have
enough time to get into this, uh, this whole conversation.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Do you want to say before the top of the
next hour.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, I mean there's a the quarterback. We're making sure
the quarterback has you know, adequate time to make his
points about the quarterback situation in Miami.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I mean that's actually not what he's referring to.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Okay, Oh, I just was just doing what I was doing.
I don't know what what Jonas was doing. I was
being mindful of the fact I wanted to protect my quarterback.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
It's my quarterback. I wanted to protect my quarterbacks time.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
That's all. Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was Actually we actually had planned a portal party
segment to do kind of like a roundup. So that's
more he was alluding to and talking to me about that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
A So, so what are you thinking you want to
go a portal party here. I'm gonna screw that up.
I try and say that many times over portal portal
party sounds like you're saying, yeah, that sounds like, but
we can do it here.
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It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 6 (30:39):
Let's start off with group Bay. That's quarterback Brettan Sores.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We we talked about it earlier, leaving Cincinnati, departing to go
to Texas Tech and uh reportedly for a huge payday.
They were reportedly saying five million dollars for this upcoming season.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Yeah that's me.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
They look, this is an offensive scheme fit.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Will he be able to get Texas Tech past where
they got this year?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I would say Brendan sorosby Baron Morton kind of similar players, honestly,
and watching some of their tape and watching this year,
so we shall see next up on the list. And
this is a big one, and I love this move.
Former Iowa State quarterback rock O Beck. He's joining Matt
Campbell at Penn State. Oh yeah, this is a great git.
(31:26):
I love this kid.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I think it's tough.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I think he's gritty. He brings stability to the quarterback
position in year one, and I think he's always been
able to do more with less during his time at
Iowa State. Excuse me, So this is huge I think
for Matt Campbell's he tries to build out the culture
of what he's making there at Penn State. Next up
and this one, to me, he is the most interesting.
(31:49):
So former TCU quarterback Josh Hoover, he's already selected IU
and which, by the way, a couple of these could
be up in the air still until the ink is dry.
Hoover really good player, a very talented passer. If you
look at Kurt Signetti and what he's done the past
two years, curs Rooke the first year they get to
the playoff. Now this year with Fernanda Mendoza, he wins
(32:12):
the Heisman. They're playing the semi final. The dude knows
how to pick which quarterback is the right fit for
what he's looking for.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
So this gives I you a huge boost.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
An older upper classmen side player who's going to come
in right away start and at a lyft. And also
they got wide receiver Nick marsh from Michigan State, another
big body target to replace some of what they will
lose with a guy like Elijah Sarratt for example. And
then finally former notiname backup Kenny Minshe originally looked like
he was committing to Nebraska to replace Dylan Royola, and
now it looks like he's going to go to Kentucky.
(32:46):
So Kentucky gets a quarterback with a ton of upsides
on armtown ability. It should go nicely with Will Stein,
their new head coach, the offensive coordinator from Oregon, should
go well with what they're going to ask him to
do to at the quarterback spot there in Lexington. So
that's your roundup transfer pool. There's a lot more to go.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
But so then, what was the report that Sam Levitt
was going to Kentucky was that.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That that apparently most likely was about money if you
had for being honest, Like, here's what I think Sam
Levit's doing. I think Sam Levitt is waiting to see
how things play out through the rest of the college
football playoff. Like Miami has deep pockets. Beec's gonna you know,
move on after this year. You know, that would be
(33:33):
a potential destination. There's other places that obviously are looking
for the services we talked about, Like depending on ty
Simpson's draft grade, maybe Bama then is in the mix.
You know, Sam Levitt will be one of the more
talked about, you know, quarterbacks in the portal given his
production the last two years, So there will be some
there will be some movement potentially, you know, Underwood staying
(33:56):
at Michigan. I had a good conversation with Kyle Whittingham.
But in regards to at least what's left out there,
Sam Levitt still hasn't decided. Dylan Ryola still han't decided.
There's a number of other quarterbacks that are in the mix.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I just.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
The whole thing is bananas to me, Like just the
amount of the idea that it's not even the dollar
amount that's going out to these guys, just all of
these just the movement there.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
You know, one year you're here, one year you're there.
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now more of the job is trying to convince somebody
to stick around that it is convinced somebody to.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Try and retention man there's a retention budget.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And look, the reality is most corporations realize this too,
especially especially if you're in the tech industry, right, Like,
you don't want to lose top talent, So you have
a certain amount set aside for retention, you know, for
bonuses and trying to you know, allow your employees to
be able to make more, you know, as more companies
start up, trying to pull them away, pry them away.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
God, could you imagine you guys go going back to
Penn State, Notre Dame after every year asking for more,
just don't want more, like I need more?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
They give me more of that?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Would you be Boston balls for more cash?
Speaker 5 (35:11):
You're at first of all, me and Joe weren't that.
We weren't close when when I was in school. So
how would that conversation have.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Gone with it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Oh don't know, And I'm glad I don't have to
answer it, That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I mean, I told did I ever tell y'all the
story I was? I was thinking about transferring after my
freshman year. Where'd you have gone? I went and hung out.
I didn't go on a visit. I went and hung
out with one of my friends.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
At PITT. I was going to go back home and
go play for PITT.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I thought, you're gonna say in Miami something like that.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
No, no, no, I was going to go back home.
And and so Miami was actually Miami, Florida State, Miami
where my top two picks pitting Penn State were my
my next picks.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
And once I got closer to.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Leaving for sor of making a decision, it became more
about the accessibility for my family. So it would have
been difficult for them to.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Get to Florida all the time.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
And so I started kind of taking a harder look
at at other schools. So it's funny, like I'm sitting
there dealing with, you know, personality, clashing with with my
head coach, and I didn't know if I would ever play.
There was a dude ahead of me that was a
red shirt freshman that was two times state champion in
(36:43):
one hundred meters, like four time state champion and wrestling
like dude was a stud white dude.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Hell yeah, of top Brady.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
So you're talking about a white dude at linebacker, you
that has accolades that are phenomenal, And I couldn't beat him.
Out like freshman year, I was behind a fifth year
senior and he and I were the backups to a
fifth year senior. But coming out of that freshman year
in the spring, it was clear that I was second
(37:15):
on the depth chart and was not moving.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Who is this unicorn? His name is.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Aaron Gatton and his son is really good now too, apparently.
And so anyway, I thought about transferring, and that was
before the portal and all that stuff was a thing,
but I chose to stick it out. You know, had
a couple really really good people giving me great advice
and just you know, the community meant more.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
To me than anything else.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
So I started really taking a good, good heart look
at more.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Than just football, you know how.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah that like come to Jesus moment where you said earlier,
like this is it for him, Like it's over, Like
once this game is over, it's over.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
I started looking at it like once it's over, it's over.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
So, you know, I'm just going really really focus in
on I had some really really great relationships, and I
needed to really focus in on the fact that there
were some really really great people within the world of
academia that really thought very highly.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
I mean, and I needed to.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Really pay attention to what I wanted to do for
my future outside of the game of go figure, outside
of football, but football wise, I really did think about
transferring to go somewhere else because I didn't think that
I would ever break the starting lineup.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
You Held firm, There you go.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Yeah, held firm.
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We will get back into the NFL conversation of another
(39:39):
type coming up top of next hour. But I mean, Brady,
what's your problem with the colts?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Like, what's what's the issue here? I mean, Riley Leonard
goes out and you know, he's slinging it around a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, I'll ask you guys, because my observation was Riley
goes out there and plays phenomenal, and I'm like, all right,
why didn't I mean, he played well enough to get
them a win. You know, they scored thirty points. I
kind of watched it just go why why didn't why
didn't you just.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Let him play?
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Why did you need to bring back Philip Rivers like
the deep balls, his ability to run and.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Create and make plays with his legs.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Like I'm not trying to be critical of the philip
Rivers play necessarily, but why did they feel like they
needed to go with him, Like Roley Leonard was a
draft pick that you made, and you could have gotten
a better idea of what he's capable of doing instead
of one game, he could have had a much greater
sample size and.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Maybe he would have won you some of those games.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
They were still trying to make the playoffs when they
brought him in, Right Rivers. Yeah, yeah, and it's.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Like chances were slim at that point.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Okay, I look at what I said that when they
were talking about bringing them in, Why are you bringing
them in? I said, saying thing, But if you're saying
it retrospectively, like all right, see.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
What it's like after watching, because the logical thought is
they didn't feel like the rookie was ready. Maybe they
don't one of they don't feel like he gives him
the best chance to win. Then you go back and
watch that and go wit a second.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
He looked really looks great. What are we doing over here?
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And it wasn't like he was just dinking and dunk
and he was slinging it too. I mean, and by
the way, like the rivers couldn't do that. Wouldn't you
think that ers would have saw that. Notice that if
she was standing on the sideline taking notes store in practice,
this is the problem, Like like you're you're you're talking
about this in terms of a normal all the way
(41:31):
there organization. The Colts do weird stuff, man, and they
have for years, Like they just did Jeff Saturday the
quarterback carousel. Like it's just it's a weird run organization,
and it appears it still is.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
I mean, the river stuff was fun, it really was.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
I'm just I felt like Saturday stuff it's fun too.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
You always got to bring it up there.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Yeah, stupid just Saturday, that's Tuesday, Saturday.
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