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now it is a Wednesday tradition for the first time
in this spot. This year we bring in the great
Petros Papadakis, the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the blowtorch Am five to
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seventy LA Sports Fox College Football Analyst and you can
get them on x at the Old p Petros.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Good morning, Hello, good morning everybody who.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Old Pe got a little energy today, Little Pepe, you stepped.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That up about ten minutes earlier.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
All right, oh nice here I am. Are you hitting
to yoga? How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No? No, not till later.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh okay? On ten oclock you're very limber. Huh, I am.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
How does that play a part?
Speaker 6 (02:00):
They say it like unlatched, the different aspects of how
you're able to think more clearly, and you know you
you live a healthier lifestyle and all kinds of stuff
that's connected to all that stretching and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I don't know about all that, but I am limbert.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, I did it used to be?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Okay, that's The funny thing about like yoga, you know,
where you say like, yeah, I practice yoga and people
go wow, wow, you know I could never do that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm not flexible at all. It's like, well, yeah, neither
was I.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And now that's the point of it, exactly, Okay, I got.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
You uh old P.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I got to start off by one where it's fun
to watch the Lakers. Obviously Lebron is historical, he's one
of the best all time. It feels, well, I was
going to lead to that point because it feels like
now we're getting to a point where like every back
to back apparently he's TVD because he's played so long,
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so much at this point in the season, is that
the best thing for the Lakers is that ultimately what's
best for their.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
Okay, no, they need to move on from Lebron and
they have new ownership. The guy that owns the Dodgers
bought the Lakers. Well, actually there's a group that owns
the Dodgers. The guy that is the big guy in
that group, Mark Walter, did not use the rest of
the group to buy the Lakers. He just bought the Lakers.
So that guy is probably going to do what he
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did with the Dodgers and slowly clean house and get
everything in order and get rid of Rob Polinka and
get rid of the.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Clutch sports people.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
But it's probably going to be like, you know, cutting
a two headed twin and a half, it's not going
to be easy. Lebron is pretty embedded there and has
his people embedded, and now he's got his guy Rich
Paul doing a podcast with Max Kellerman spewing all the propaganda.
It is pretty interesting. I mean, for his historical and
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great as he is and numerically and all those things,
you can't argue it. But the media campaign that he's
launched to have everybody call him the best basketball player
of all time when we all know Michael Jordan is
and so on and so forth is exactly what you think.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It is tiresome.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
And I've also probably been indoctrinated by X, you know,
because all you have to do is like one Lebron
hater report tweet, and every time I turn on my
phone there's like fifty tweets about what a bad guy
Lebron is and look, he didn't help this guy up
after he got fouled, and looking him brushing the hell
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out of his skull like a psychopath. And here he
is talking about how he's not going to play and
back to bags and all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
What's the most egregious thing, the brushing or the not
helping us up?
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Probably the not the brushing. Yeah it's a chalk The
chalk thing is annoying.
Speaker 8 (04:51):
While yeah, it's all all of it is is just
tiresome at this point. Even his celebration where he kind
of like puts his hands down and flishes you down.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Yeah, that was a Nick van Exel thing. Nothing seems genuine.
Everything's things calculated and ultimately, I mean, when you think
about it, I just don't think Lebron's that smart of
a guy.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Dang, you know, I mean.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
To sit there and get your lawyers to try to
tell everybody that you invented taco Tuesday or talking in
a barber shop and all of the different weird little
media things.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
How long has taco Tuesday? You're from here, you're older
than Lebron. Did you hear taco Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
When you were growing up?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Okay, all right, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm from Pittsburgh, bro, I'm from Columbus.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I know about no taco Tuesdays like I said, Chee
Cheese was the only mentioned spot about Yeah, and that
was like I was like, I ain't even know what
was going on. Taco looked like it was a temple,
like an Indian I know what was going on.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I remember being in Greece and being there for a
long time, you know, like for like three weeks, which
is a long time for me, and being kind of
lonely for American food after a while, and my wife
and I went to a Mexican restaurant on a Greek
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island and it was you know, being from California, it
was probably one of the worst culinary decisions.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I've ever made.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Oh you know, it is not.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
It is not if you live in southern California or
Arizona or someplace like that, New Mexico, Texas, trying to
get Mexican food anywhere else in the country is a
real risk.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
It was dicey and Charleston, I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Yeah, so I'm sure Chee Chee's was great. Now the
other oh, you know, the Casa Bonita is a very
famous place.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Have you heard about that? In the South Park one?
Is that the name of it.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
There's a there's a South Park episode about this Mexican
restaurant that Cartonan wants to go to for his birthday
where they have like Mariachi's. They have guys doing like
cliff diving and stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
They have like an indoor pool and all and all this,
and it.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Was such like a coveted place to go for your birthday.
Then somebody actually opened it in Colorado. They made it
the Casa Bonita. You have to get like a special card.
It's like really hard to get reservations. There's like a lottery.
And that's that's a very famous Mexican restaurant. I don't
know if it's as famous as che Che's, but famous
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in its own.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
So you know about Chee Chee's out here?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No I don't. I just heard you guys talk.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
Oh I'm about to say, because I figured Chee Che's
was just like a knockoff deal for us.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
On Man, whenever I hear chi Chi, I think about
that scene in Scarface after things go terribly wrong and
the guy gets cut up with a chainsaw and all that. Yeah,
and but but Tony Antana keeps his head and he says, Cheechy,
chee Chy, get the Yale get to Chichi, get the yale.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What's your second to my?
Speaker 7 (08:10):
My my, My first favorite line in that scene is
when he's walking in and he's got the guy it's
with him, his friend who is you know, eventually gets
cut up with a chainsaw. It's terrible, and he goes the.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Door open, suss, my brawler knows everything. That's okay.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
First of all, the way shorty girl looked on the bed,
it was all the way skeptical, like I would stay
right at the door.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
The way she looked like she just like flat top.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
And I'm like, I'm like, the more you watch it,
you can tell that she's got something.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
She got a hammer up under that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, and that's that that guy.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Waldo says to Omar Suarez played by f Murray Abraham.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Gave him to the Columbia.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yeah, and F Murray Abraham goes, see, yeah, door open, sass.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
My brother knows everything.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
A baby her money, hold on, hold on, hold on
for a second, Jonas, is that your impression?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's all? Did you know Jonas bought like special pizza?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I knew work on my show and I didn't get
a pizza.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Why didn't you give a pizza?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I knew this was gonna happen. I knew it.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Jonas Jonahs done. That should be ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You guys that ran up on my work on my show.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Ronnie is so passive aggressive.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Our sound engineer. They don't like to be called board operators.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
And sound off technical oh technical producer okay.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Okay, And I mean I'm trying my best.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Dis a great job, our producer.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
They both got uh like stacks of this awesome pizza
from Geez from Tim Kate tim Kate's and Ronnie fossil
from Jonas Knox. And what did I get a handful
of pubes?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Nothing? Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Wows all? Hey did you guys get a handful of pizzas?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
No?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, well interesting? What was this all about?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Jonah?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So I wanted to do something nice for the producers
there there's no handful of pubes. Oh that could be raised, touched, bro,
But I wanted. I wanted to do something nice for
the guys behind the scenes. So I got him some
(10:44):
lou Mal Noddies, some taste of Chicago lou Mal Naughties, pizzas.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I didn't think it was that big of a deal, and.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
It wasn't until they come on the show bragging about it,
say what did you get? And then they say, hey,
did you see Jonas on that TV show? Saydy's been
doing it for twenty years when you did it for eighteen,
And then it just kind of dissipates from there.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Never never it leaves.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
It leaves somebody with, you know, not a great taste
of Chicago pizza.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
In their mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I never said anything like a bitter taste. I also
reached out to I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Saying my friend Angel Fernandez got caught up with a chainsaw.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I also reached out to Petros to say Happy New Year,
and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm sorry. Yes, I got a heartfelt text.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, and I got no reply, so you tang.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I know, Hey, Happy New Years.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
We're off to it all. We are off to an
awful start in twenty twenty. Soon we are we really
is terrible.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Petros, I'm gonna switch gears on you and get back
to sports a little bit.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Oh, this is a sports conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, we're talking pubes and wombs.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
And ya yo, you forgot about yo yo, that's what
polluted her womb.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
And she wakes up with a kulu and she won't
have me, she said a comma.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Hey, the transfer portal was kind of creating a coma,
uh for college football? What's your not looking at? Look
at where everything is currently? What's your take on how
this whole you know, quickly quickly developing deal?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Lane kifferin sent Demand Williams a special pizza, and Jedfish
did not Huh. It's interesting. The Demand Williams story is
what you're referring to.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Right, well, I mean, it's just all of it is
such an interesting storyline and plot in terms of how
this this portal was going.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
But go ahead, go stay.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Where you're tweet.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I saw a tweet that said sixty three or seventy
percent of the players in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Not oh, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Go ahead there transfer guys. Yes, so you know, but
then you look at like Fernando Mendoza wasn't the most
coveted guy in the portal when.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He ended up in Indiana.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
And I know that Signetti built that whole thing that
is the marvel of the modern universe and should be.
He built it with some guys from JMU and his
staff that came from a Sun Belt team. So there's
ways to do the portal, and everybody has a different philosophy.
(13:34):
Whether you bring in guys who were at big time
programs maybe not playing that much, or you bring in
like an FCS super team kind of like they did
in New Mexico and had a historic season. There's a
lot of different ways to do it, and I think
everybody kind of has their own philosophy.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But it's created a great deal of.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Chaos, There's no doubt about it, and it makes it
so you can't develop a football team that we all
like players having power and players making money and all
these things, but a lot of the product of those
changes has been not great for the product of the sport,
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which means players don't get developed properly. Players are always
having their head on a swivel for the next opportunity
to try to make more money, and who can blame them?
And you're giving very young people, very adult money and
asking him to make very adult decisions. And I think
we see the detritus of that in all the negative stories.
(14:39):
The story from Washington is pretty crazy because he signed
a contract right and then LSU clearly just came over
the top and offered.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Him more money. And he took it.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
So now obviously he can't play for Washington no matter
what they hold him to. They can't force him to.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Play for you dub.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
But at the same time, they probably can cause a
lot of chaos for him and cause litigation or whatever happens.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I'm not even sure him and Jed Fish have the
same agent.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I think, yeah, so they're gonna have to deal with
that and figure that out and give some of the
money back or whatever. But I mean, I know for
a fact that a guy did a deal. Just it
happens all the time. With that second portal, when it
was still open, the kicker from UTSA got a truck
and like fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Dollars, we were told.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
And then and then at the last day of the
transfer portal, he took his truck and his fifty g's
and he went to Oklahoma. And you can't get that
money back. You can't sue for it, or there's no
legal place to sue for it. It's nil money. It
just exists in the ether. And then a lot of
the time, whenever they report that this guy's getting this
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amount of money, it's not accurate.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And even if it is accurate, he.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Might not end up getting paid that amount of money,
and who knows if he's going to be able to
retrieve it or not. So I would say that it's
it's the most chaotic time in the history of college football,
without a doubt. But I think people maybe the situation
with the Washington quarterback is going to be a touchstone
for a breaking point. I'm not sure, but it'll be
interesting to see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, we saw something similar.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
We talked about earlier this week with the Georgia defensive end.
I believe who's is going to Missouri kind of similar
in how the collective is suing the player basically for
a clause within its contract for liquidated damages. So all
these things are precedent.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Setting happened between Wisconsin and somebody too last year, that
it happens with lower profile if it happens with the quarterback,
though it makes the news, you know, if it happens
with a d ND or a safety or something like that,
guys like us know about it. But maybe this will
be a bigger story because it's a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I was going to ask you, just in regards to
Brennan sorosby you called there UCF game since now UCF.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, and he just cash out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
He's going to be the next guy at Texas Tech.
He supposedly, to your point of legitimacy, he reportedly signed
a deal for five million this upcoming season. When you
hear that, and I know we're old heads, so we're
talking from era where that wasn't what we were getting
or wasn't the deal. But do you did after seeing him?
Did you think like, oh, yeah, he should be the
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highest played paid player in college football? Like that makes sense?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
You know, I liked him a lot, and I'd been
watching him for a couple of years. I did some
Cincinnati in the first year two or twenty twenty four,
twenty four, and liked him then and liked him last
year and thought that they ran him a whole lot
for a team that has the tenth highest paid quarterback
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in college But I mean, he was like the tenth
or twelfth highest paid guy in the sport according to
a bunch of the different sources when he was at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Right, So Cincinnati sitting there like, God, what do we
have to do?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
But if I was sores by, I wouldn't leave the
NIP I mean The Nip is an awesome place that
Brady told me about that it was great. And then
I went there and did a game and I loved
the Nip and they played that.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Don't you know you, I don't know, that's going to
be very difficult down to stretch. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, if you're down all bro, they got some
they got some strong chance.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Do you know the other one? They do?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
And they oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry, wrong, wrong school.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
There it is right?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh come on.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, come on, yeah, come.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
On, Petros, come on, yeah, Petros, I like it.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
First time I'm hearing it, but I like it.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Oh you broke the chance. Chairs out of here.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I never like him. I never thrust him. For all
I know, he had me set up in my friend
Andrew Fernandos kill. But that's engineers.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Petros.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Do you find yourself rooting for old miss to get
this done without Lange?
Speaker 9 (19:32):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Yeah, I think, you know, Like there's always kind of
like a dark like last year. It was interesting because
I mean, most people don't think of Notre Dame as
kind of like an underdog story, ever, but Notre Dame
became a bit of a darling last year in the
college football Playoff, and I think it helped the college
football play out out out a lot to have Notre
(19:53):
Dame in four of their games, the biggest brand in.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
All of football.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So I think, yeah, there's all somebody to root for
and somebody interesting out there, and it's a bit of
a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The final four.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
I think that we can all be excited about just
hope for really competitive, fun games to watch with a
lot of controversy and a lot of things to discuss.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I think that'll be great. But I didn't.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I liked Soresby when I saw him, and I figured
he would be a hot commodity in the portal. But
seven million dollars or whatever, six million.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Five Yeah, that seems like that seems exorbitant for the
old Soresby. But at least they ran him. You know,
you got to run. If you run these everybody runs
these one back backfields and the quarterback is your other
running back, you've got to put that out there as
a threat. I mean, I think that's something that my
alma mater didn't do at all this year. USC They
(20:57):
didn't run their big quarterback, probably to help him out
in a lot of situations. But they did that a
bunch at Cincinnati. They ran him around and he was
tough and not afraid so and he throws the ball
very well. And he seems to have great leadership ability.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So I like Soresby there.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
He is the great.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Petros Papa day gis with us year on Fox.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Patrick New Year, Jonas. I think you're great too. I
really appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You're the best.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, good, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Things get a little weird between Mario and uh and
Olivia Garvey the other night, you know, they got a
little I heard a report that things got a little
awkward out there on the set.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
There might be some trouble.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
We'll talk later.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Oh wow, we'll talk later.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Patros, thanks for putting Jonas at his place.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I do appreciate when you come on and do that
with that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
What do you mean he gets away with murder on
the show Murder, LaVar will tell you behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know what. Somebody took a real on it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And we were talking about the pizzas on the show,
the blow torch, and somebody was like, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
What, you should have got in Petros. Another thumb raise
come on.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I was like no, I was like two years ago,
I haven't been wearing. That was a phase. Yeah it's over.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You must have left it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
I've advanced. Yeah, I did leave it somewhere. I almost
said something that was gonna get dumped.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Oh wow, Yeah, that was mentioned in the studio today too,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Okay, yeah, of course, all.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, Petros, we appreciate it. Get him on X at
the old p the coast of the Petros Money Show,
which you can hear it's Fox called Football Analyst. Uh
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the here coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of The Leftovers
that'll be yours right here on FSR. Did you see
this report from Pro Football Talk that just came out
Because we're gonna get into some dysfunction. Jimmy Haslam was
really upset as we discussed earlier the notion that his
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team would be labeled dysfunctional.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I was really bothered by that.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Kevin Stefanski already had dinner with the Giants last night
and they're going to meet again today, So.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's just a done deal, I think. So it's an
how bad of a look?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And by the way, the Giants have been through their
fair share of head coaches in recent years. Yes, it's
not like they haven't had a lot of turnovers, just
their organization hasn't viewed quite the same as Obviously.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
They have more build up good will. Obviously they had that.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Great run during the Eli Manning era of time. But
I mean, let's be clear, like the New York Giants
have slipped into mediocrity and have slipped into dysfunctional categories
as well. So but with that being said, I mean
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is a fine coach man, and he's a fine fine man.
So I think it would be a great a great addition,
It would be a great hire for New York and
it would be interesting to see. I think it there
will be a very very real come to Jesus moment
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if Stefanski were to fail in New York. And now
that creates to me a bigger conversation for New York
because I mean I feel like some of the like
Dave Ball is a good coach, Like I felt like
Dave Ball coming in as a good coach, but I
didn't feel like all right, like I'd be blown away.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
If he didn't have success.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I don't know that there's a coach that i've I've
seen that has lost their job as of late where
I'd be like, I like, that's a that's a head
scratcher that he's not having success in New York. But
it starts. I'm thinking it's front office, I am me.
I'm thinking it's run office in New York. I don't
feel like it's the coach. And I feel like this
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is one of those coaches where if Stefanski gets hired
and he doesn't have success, then you clearly can take
the scope and put it and and focus it in
on the right individuals. I don't think it's ownership. Okay,
well there you go, one, there you go.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
How's Tennessee doing?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
How are they doing? What was that.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Which they even just changed up this offseason? How their
front office is handling things so kind of interesting that
they're still trying to figure it out there And meanwhile,
Mike Rabel's preparing for.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
A playoff game.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
To the point about Stefanskin, if this will work or not,
I think that the tough part if you're if you're
him and you're evaluating this opportunity, because he's going to
get more than one opportunity. As we've kind of pointed out,
they have been patient with coaches, so they've there's.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That element to it.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But you're also with the general manager, who I don't
know if you have any ties to Joe Shane. If
things don't go well, are they going to get rid
of Joe Shane and want to go in a different
direction and then you have to be paired with someone
else like that would be a concern. His evaluation of
Jackson Dart is one in which I believe he really
liked him, you know, in regards to how he had
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there are his views on him before this past year's draft,
But after seeing him now for a year, is he
bought into him? Is he concerned about the injury concerns
like we've talked about. So there's there's there's definitely some considerations.
It's a great organization, it's the you know, could call
it the best city in the world, but there and
there's a lot of history there, but there's also a
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lot of baggage from at least recent years, and and
there's could be potential baggage too, depending on how you
view the current state of the team.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The one that's weird to me still is the Dolphins
because like they fired their GM, Mike McDaniel has basically said,
I'm to be part of the GM hiring process, and
so if you're a general manager, you've just got to
come in and inherit the coach that's there that reportedly
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had lost the locker room. They felt like there was
stuff that they came out there. Over the past couple
of years. You had a lot of players who spoke
out after they left there. I just I look at
that one and I go, maybe that's another one to
watch now that John Harbaugh is available and he's on
the market. Maybe you know, because I threw out Todd
Bowles in Tampa, maybe that's a move that could be made.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
You guys throughout Harbaugh. You know, obviously there's the whole
Michigan tie. Stephen Ross owns that. You know that the
Harbaugh family in Michigan all that, So there's definitely some
ties there. There's no doubt about it. I mean, I
think what's what's more interesting about the Stefanski talk is
he's going to be covered wherever they go, in large
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part because he's an offensive mind, and if you're a
team that's got a quarterback, you're trying to maximize that's
what you're trying to pair with.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So you know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
How much room he's got if he's tied to the
GM or tied to the head coach. One thing in
regards to Miami, I think what you're saying is just
patients or maybe they're waiting for the right guy to
come available, which would be unfortunate for Mike McDaniel. But
like I look at it and say this, I don't
care what coach, what situation we're talking about. The league
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has become so difficult to win him because if you
don't have a success in your first or second year,
and even if you do in your first year, I mean,
look at Dan Quinn. He's got to fire both coordinators,
his OH line coach after their starting quarterback and we
played seven games. They had other injuries to that impacted that,
and now it's like, oh, Okay, this is not a
good sign.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Feels like he's in the hot spit, but he.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Just went to the playoffs. Like they damn near beat
the team that won the Super Bowl. Like what is
wrong with this league and not having enough patience to
let some of these coaches coach, roster build everything else.
Like it's almost impossible to turn these things around this fast.
I mean like you can look at for example, because
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a lot of people use like, oh, look at Kurt
Signetti and what he's on an island. And we've talked
about this at length. It is the greatest turnaround in sports.
It's no doubt about it. The difference is, like you
don't have the capability of flipping a roster the same
way you do at the NFL level like they're able
to do in college right now, it's dramatically different, Like
you don't have a slow of draft picks that you
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can sign out of high school. You don't have a
slow of transfer portal players that you can sign. And
furthermore to that point, like there's a kind of a
cap at least on what the age of maturity is
on some of these players. You know, Indiana's got a
more veteran team, a lot of fifth six year guys,
their average age is twenty two and a half years old.
A credit to Kurtz, Signetti and their staff are kind
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of looking probably at the college basketball model. Like what's
interesting about this is if you look at March Madness
and how like the one and none kind of had
its run, and then once the COVID year came through,
we sort of seeing these the transfer portal open, these
older teams started coming around. You start of seeing better
play from you know, greater parody because you had older,
more veteran players who were capable of pulling off upsets
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like beating some of those quote unquote blue blood teams,
and now you're seeing it in college football. But you
don't have the same ability to do that at the
NFL level. You don't have, you know, a free agency
every year where you're basically relying upon how big your
collective is. It's just it's wild to me the expectations
that a lot of these NFL head coaches take on.
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And I understand they're compensated well, and we can have
that conversation too if you want, but it's hard to
be able to have success build any sort of sustaining
model or culture if you're canning a guy after a
year or two, maybe even three years, Like you look
at Jonathan Gannon like that's another team play with their
backup for the majority of the season. You know, who
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knows what would have how it would have looked Ifkli
Mur would have started. I just there's never an you know,
I have patience with these guys.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I think it would be interesting if I mean, if
you're the Giants, aren't you trying to sign him immediately?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
You probably tried to sign him yesterday?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Yeah right, I mean I think have they gone through
like the ruiney real problems and that's that's probably and
I would assume, so I would assume.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
So I think I can uh, I think I can
tell you yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
That's what they have.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
And and so okay, and and so he's well, oh
well yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I guess for okay, you're a guy, Yeah, okay, our.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Guy both he's well, he's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
There's a couple.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Okay, there's more than one.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Can we say who it is?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Or no?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I don't know anything for certain. I never I will
never claim anything for certain, and because then I'll stop knowing.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
At all.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Anyways, all I'll say anyway, but they did. You said
that there's seven teams. You guys said, seven teams that
have reached out to Stefanski, to Harball, to Harball, and
there's only six open vacancies.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:23):
I started immediately thinking to myself, Buffalo. I started immediately
thinking to myself, Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Aren't they busy this weekend?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Though? Yeah, yeah, I started thinking, all right, like, we'll
get back to the game in a minute.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
There's a co I mean, I'm just saying, like, let's
just like, I start thinking to myself, if you're going
to measure and weigh out what someone could do to
a roster that is right there ready to win, could
you imagine what Stefanski could do with that roster and
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with with Josh Allen. I just I you know, I
doubt that's the team that's the seventh team. But again,
I think that this playoff is I mean, these coaches
are are coaching for their jobs. Some of these coaches
are coaching for their jobs in these in this playoff run.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And the more the more.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Coaches that enter into which I think it's already where
it would be anyway, I think it's already where it
would be with the current you know, list of coaches
that are available.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I'm trying to scoop up.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
If it's the fans key, if it's hardball, I'm trying
to scoop they should they should have a job announced
today if you're asking me, like, they should be announcing
a commitment or a you know, im principal, you know
deal today. If I'm the New York Giants or another
team that is in the search for for a coach.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I mean, if you're Stefanski, wouldn't you want to peek
around a little bit or like maybe go talk to Atlanta.
But you know, maybe Matt Ryan, maybe that whole he's
already identified who he wants. But yeah, it just feels
like he gets fired on a Monday, so he wins
on Sunday, gets fired on Monday, has dinner on Tuesday,
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and is meeting again on Wednesday. So by Thursday he
could have a job that's almost spanified day.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
By the end of Wednesday, Yeah, he could have He
might already have a job, all right, it just hasn't
been announced. It'll be announced by Thursday. Well, at least
he was really the issue there. I know that, there
you go, he was really the problem.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
But Yeah, Well, maybe they don't get it, you know,
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Time to find out what's left Incredibles.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Here's the left over there, Ylery Ray, what we got? Well?
Speaker 11 (39:13):
First off, Brady, you talk about Skyline Chili all the time,
and one of our wonderful listeners actually sent me a
bag of chili Skyline Chili spaghetti.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
There you go, all right, now, it's you gotta you
gotta try it fresh. This will give you a little
bit of an idea, right, but it's a very unique
meal and a lot of Cincinnatians they take pride in
that that's where Skyline Chili originally started. There's also the
gold Star gold Star I think is them.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
On the top.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
It does say Cincinnati's famous. So I'm excited. Well, see
if I get a Tommy Ache, that's that's for later.
That'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Cincinnati, since that's got some great food. Now they got
Montgomery in if you've ever been there, go try their ribs.
They're phenomenal. Greaters obviously if anyone who's had a Greater's
ice cream. They've got Skyline chili.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, but isn't there the steakhouse dow too.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Oh yeah, Jeffy Rubis hid Yeah, well at a restaurants tour,
and also like he's got some Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
They're at Louisville there, they're all over.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
They've got one in Columbus.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Wegether. Yeah, Jeff's great.
Speaker 11 (40:11):
Well, this is a little juicier on our stories, not
as hardy and media as chili. But we got a
scam alert going on. Travis Kelsey's charity foundation eighty seven
and running, is under fire and receiving serious accusations of
money laundering. They're one point five million dollars in donations,
only donating forty percent of the total profits and the
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rest well. The filings show that their spendings were regularly
reported on management and general and other fees instead of
being specific, which the IRS actually requests for transparency. In total,
only four hundred and sixty nine thousand dollars went to
management and four hundred and forty six thousand, hundred thousand
went to charity. So four hundred and sixty nine hundred
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thousand went to management, four hundred and forty six hundred
thousand went to charity forty one cents.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
For every dollar.
Speaker 11 (40:56):
And the average charity donates eighty to ninety percent eighty
nine And there's only one manager that runs their thing
better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Well, that's well, first off, that's usually a good thing
because then you don't have as much overhead if you
only have one person that you're actually paying, so.
Speaker 11 (41:13):
That you're supposed to have a president, a treasury, and
a secretary to make sure everything is being ran properly,
and he doesn't have any.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Of them, correct, Like I have a foundation. I've had
a foundation for sixteen years, so I know this works.
But I'm saying, if there's only one person being compensated,
that's a good thing. But I don't know all the
details to it. I have to look into it. I
hope it's what is this? What does this charity support?
Speaker 11 (41:34):
It's supposed to their mission is to an empower underserved children,
providing them resources and opportunities in their communities.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
I can do more.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
It's not as fishy to me.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Oh, it would be interesting to see how it plays out, Bah,