The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas, Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington talk about the hot Eagles rumors surrounding Jalen Hurts and the message sent to Hurts. Plus, the guys talk more about the Hard Knocks rumblings from Adam Schefter, funny vacation stories, and much more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
What up sticks?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Good morning, White Boys, I mean I mean fellas, I
mean Bros. Happy Easter to everyone, Joe White Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
This job man, Yeah, it was uh yeah, long.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Time, a great, great time man. Hope you enjoyed jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Long time, spring break man, spring river with the kiddos.
A lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I've got a lot of questions though, as I came back,
one in which I'll start by saying, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
One of the last time is I've had a dakery.
Our daker is okay?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Still?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Like if you're a dad or you're like a guy
or a man, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Set, why not? What's wrong with the dak in the
right setting? I guess the right if you're.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
On the beach, like, which was obviously where that kind
of started. I was like, all right, you know, I
have a daker, So that's like, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
It's it's still a little that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know what the problem is with it, strawberry.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
In there, it's the whipped cream on top.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, there's no whipped cream, so I'm not sure where.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
You get the normal dries. There is whip cream.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
That's what makes it usually, you know, for.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
So every jack day is just kind of you know,
I don't know me.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, I'll say this though, they are delicious. I understan white.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
They are good.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
And I would say on a beach, I'll go ahead,
I'll say, yep, I'll take that.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I don't mind Dacherie and the Pina Colida mix. Don't
they call it them? Oh yeah, vice advice? Yeah, that
those are fire. That's that's what I'm saying. Listen, I'm
not mad at you for what you're saying. I'm just saying,
where does that fall on man coat? Like, I don't know,
I'm really not sure. Maybe it's nothing, Maybe it's a

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whole lot to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It was handed to me and I drank it and
I said, oh yeah, I remember why these things exist.
I remember they're good.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I was like, you know what, I'll have another matter,
you know what, And that's all that matters.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So what you were enjoying your what's the difference between
that and a frozen margarita? If you think about it,
is it just the whipped cream possibility, because it's the
same thing. It's a it's a blow.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's a different liquor.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, it's a different liquor. It's white rum. Yeah, one
is rum and white. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, well margaritas they have yeah, yeah, okay, but I
mean it's still the same. You know, it's a blended
it's it's just it's a okay, it is taboo slurpee,
all right.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
That's like, that's another questionable one. That's a questionable word
for me. And you know it's on the questionable and lists.
I just you know, I don't drink slurpees. You know,
I'm transitioning to solver to none of that. The Knox family, though,
is the Knox family the mush?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Was that just you know what happened?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
What?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
What was the I feel like the Cubs were their
last place in the division. Oh, just because the Guardians
snuck one out yesterday?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Is this what this is?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm just asking how many of the games?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
So we actually when yeah we were in Chicago, we
went to two games they won one and two. So
it listen, five hundred, we'll take a We'll take a
five hundred, and I think.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Over the entire break they were five hundred because the
Knox family is the bush.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, look they did take two or three from the Angels.
And I was talking to Yeah, the weather was all
over the place we got there, So you were talking
about this, Brady, the midwestph Well, you were talking about
how just the difference in temperature from day to day
in the Midwest has been wild. So we get there

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on Monday and it's in the seventies. It's beautiful night.
The next night it's raining forty two and rain. And
then the next day I'm thinking, all right, well, you know,
if we could get through forty two in the game,
you know, with a five year old, that's fine. The
next day was thirty seven and even colder, and then

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the day after that it got up to seventy again, thunderstorms.
The whole thing was crazy. It was wild, but good time.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Canceling all kinds. They had it real crazy at the
airport both days I was here, easter easters and on
on what was it, Thursday. I believe it's crazy, man,
just canceling every flight like you can just see it
just going down down the whole flights list like ding

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ding ding. People were just panicking. It was crazy. Found
a way though, Found a way to Chicago.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Midwest is like the winter spring is is kind of
like your crazy ext girlfriend. It's just all over the place.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know. It's like they just can't seem to figure
out how they all feel old, they're hot.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
They're cold, they're indifferent.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean, it's fun though for a while, time,
for a time.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
The last question I'll ask you, and this probably pertains
more to uncertainty as I says. I don't want to
say this more relates to Jonas and I than you, lear,
but I'm gonna throw it out to both of you.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's a can a flex when you come back from
spring break. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I don't know why you're asking me that.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
That's a definite. Yes, I mean, that's why I be
flexing every day. Yeah me, shyeah, I'd be giving you
that tent like, hey, where were you at? What you mean?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah? Hey, Charlie, you remember know the kids got a
year round ten you know, Hey, you see those there
are sausages on that there grill.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Those are not your kids.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Sir, the water beads off the hair a little bit.
Oh yeah, god, we're quoting a movie. Everyone, We're quoting
a movie.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, me and myself and Irene. It is unbelievably funny.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
But yeah, yeah, that was a tan is a flex
though for certain because it just it just shows you know,
you got that uh, that that good healthy tent going
to you, you know what I mean, like you got
that deal going. I don't know. For gods, it's interesting
because I don't get into that part of it, so
you know, I don't go too deep with it. But

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for for uh, for ladies, it's a tan lines are well, yeah,
that's that's still I guess because I'm an eighties guy.
You know, tan lines are important.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know, what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You're like, well, yeah, you know what I mean, you
do it. I mean, you know, tan lines are a flex,
that's all.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Back in your playing days, man, I do know what
you mean.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
But I'm tired now, so it was I didn't play
in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Jonas Well, I would say this, Uh, I feel like
I do have an appreciation for travel and sort of
navigating that with more than one kid, because I can't

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even imagine what that world is like. So I don't know, Brady,
if you took a car or if you took a flight.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, we flew, Yeah, yeah, we flew.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
How's uh, how's that going getting any easier?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Or is it it was smooth?

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, we got we got some. Yeah, we got some.
We got some troops.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
They've got expensive for y'all. Man, God, that's it's.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Not cheap, that's for sure, but it's uh, we find
a way to make it happen, man, and everyone kind
of falls in line, so we're we're hitting hitting our
stride with all of that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So no, it's good, It's good. Travel wasn't wasn't the
issue at all?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
This first class God ever, well, shoot, sitting there looking
at the Quinn's like, wait, even the baby boys gotts.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
The problem is, like I wish, I wish you could
fly first class to some of the destinations, but it's
usually the catacol of the air man.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's it's Southwest that's been taken away from us.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I refused to fly Southwest unless I have to. I
just I don't know. I can't get into it. I'm sorry, Southwest.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
They got extra leg room now though up in the front.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I just can't get into it, man, after saying that lady,
I think she oofed. I just I don't know, man,
I just haven't been right ever since. Like one dude
almost oofed. He might have oofed. He was oofed four
minute on that flight, the same exact day, two different flights,
all along Southwest. I just felt like it was an
omen you know, it was just like it was don't

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do it, hey, you look at it.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
You look at like two casualties. I look at it.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's two more open seats spread out everybody. It's horrible
because I definitely took that lady's seat.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh yeah, what are you supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I looked at that, looked at the flight attendant.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I said, is it okay to take this seat?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
What are you supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Riverside?

Speaker 6 (10:51):
What do we do?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
You know, holding out, you know, putting candle light up there? Like?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, man? They I mean that lady was ginormous too.
They was straight get her up at it there, man like.
So it was like even more traumatic than just getting
a regular lady up out of the seat. She was
just all over the place. Man.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't mean for this question to come off the
long Way. But I also don't feel like I see
people who are like that big on any other airline,
Like they fly Southwest predominantly, like the majority of the
time they're flying Southwest if they're really big, I don't
know why. I'm just saying, like every other airline I've
ever flown, I've never been like, oh my damn, like

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that's that's a big person.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Can I get two of those extenders?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Please?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Note?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
This is just like Southwest, which is interesting because they
don't really serve meals on those flights.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
So you think they don't serve meals, You're not really opposite,
Like they give you your little two bags of snacks, right,
It's like they give you pretzels and some trail mix.
That's about it.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, those bags are getting smaller too.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, no, I get no complaints about Southwest? Is fine?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
All right?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Great? I mean you know that you flew Southwest too? Yeah, okay, yeah, nice.
I'm not judging, y'all. I just won't fly. I will
get if I if I can help it.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Sorry, how did things go here? Do you hold down
any drama?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
The show?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
No drama?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Anybody get out of line?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
No, we just did the show. Plux was was great.
I mean we you know, we got some good reps.
You know, it wasn't a whole lot to talk about. Yeah, hey,
I picked a great week to to to hang out,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Tiger and Pooka.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
I mean, I don't find well, Tiger was at great schedule.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Tiger Tiger was a good one.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Wait did you actually talk about Tiger though? I mean,
because you're kind of there's something there. I don't know
what the past, you know, tells us.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I know I know this, I know this. I learned
from a black man that Tiger Woods is real name,
is not Tiger. I was that day old when I
found out that man's name was Eldrick.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
To say it again, who's taunt?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
And we almost changed it to to you know, just
take that tea and added to the word ain't Oh no, Eldrick,
Eldrick ain't woo. I didn't know that was that man's name, honestly,
like that was probably breaking bigger breaking news than even him,

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you know, doing what he did.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
In that video. I don't think he knew that was
his name either.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Dang man, that's messed up.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Hey, Tiger and Pooka both in rehab. Who knew who
had that? Huh, that's just like I'm seeing that and
the coverage of it. There's like, here's a here's video
of Tiger's interaction with the with the police officer, and
here's what he said. He was on the phone with
President Trump and he was in the back of the

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squad car.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I mean, it was it was pretty wild, that whole
set of circumstances. I mean it went from being like
I don't know, just said, hey, I rolled my car.
I don't know what happened type thing. I was just
talking to the president to then all these beams come out.
He's in handcuffs, he's in the back of the car.
He's got like a blanket on him. It looks like
I'm just saying, everyone's comparing him to e t or

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you know, compare him to whatever you want to throw
out there.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Is what is going on. Eldrick did not have a
good week. That's that's what I do know. If I
don't know anything else, here's what I would They should
have just named him Tiger. I mean, just name me.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
He did have a decent week because his apparel brand,
Sunday Red, sold out of the shirt that.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
He was wearing. All what's probably gonna be everybody's Halloween outfit.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't know about that, but it was.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It sold out.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
It was no longer.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Anymore.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I mean they trying to get that. They trying to
get those limited editions where he check up out of here.
Ah damn, it might be too late that come. Man, hey, broh,
he keeps rolling car. It's not like that that he
like ran into something. Like he does it right every time.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Oh it's masters, we Whyn't you have some respect?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Man? He does it right every time, is all I'm saying. Man, Like,
he's lucky to be here, That's all I'm gonna say. Like,
if you got to crawl from out of your car
and your car is on its head, take it from
somebody who drives in LA and drives out an hour
where I've seen multiple times where cars have flipped. That

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is wild to see a vehicle, Oh yeah, in real life,
Like it's almost more wild than seeing like a beer
or when I saw that that mountain lion that one time.
It's almost is wild as seeing a wild animal in
the in the wold, Like that's it's not in a zoo.
It's free. That's it's seeing a car rolled over and

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not its natural phase or way it looks. That is wow, man,
or the wrong way drivers out here we've talked, that
is wow. You've made You've made it a point try like,
let's be clear here, you are making it a point
to try to check up out of here. If you
flip a car, you you just you are. It just

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is what it is. Man, He's done it more than once.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
What was he saying that his ankle seizes up or
something like that, that based on the injuries, that.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
He's an injury.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Dude, I've tried to explain this to you before.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You most likely haven't paid attention because another of you
guys care about golf.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Oh that's not true.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
He should have had that leg amputated. He kept it
but now deals.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
With an immense amount of issues and pain from that.
But that leg, it shouldn't be a part of him anymore. Man, Like,
that's the truth. And it's rich incredibly unfortunate because you know,
obviously he's still trying to play, he is still trying
to do his thing, but he's also trying to make
it through without you know, being paid free. And there's

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cost to that. And obviously for whatever reason, he doesn't
want to hire a driver. And I've heard the excuse
sales or people saying, well, it's because he doesn't want
to it's not private. But it's like there's enough people
who you can hire a driver, who can sign.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
An NDA and keep things private or whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I just hey, I tried to tell you guys
when the when the accident first came out, somebody from Waimo,
tell that guy in the Philippines to put down the joystick,
get on the phone with Tiger and build a sponsorship there,
all right.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Get him?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
What would that conversation sound like, Jonas.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I don't know. Turn on a Mani Pacio interview.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Well, his name is Taunt. I'm sure he'd be able
to h he could get it done. He can communicate
clearly what the dude?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
So wait a second. His legs should be amputated, and
they were talking about him saying what leg is it?
Is it left lag or is this the right leg?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Which one is it? It's the one he wears a
sleeve on, right, Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't even know what
the one he wears a sleeve on or doesn't wear
a sleeve, so it is his driving leg. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, I don't know. I hate to be the
guy that says you make way too much to be driving.
Then if your leg is giving out and getting weak

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and you still on the pedal and you see in
the gas and it's going up to one hundred and
you getting over and traffic which you knew to get
over in traffic. But yeah, listen, I don't know. I
ain't want to judge a man, but I'm just saying
you got to exercise a little bit more on the
side of caution if you're Tiger Woods and you're in

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these situations. I mean, I just everybody needs to do it,
but everybody's situation ain't playing out in the public look
like this. I mean, he's rolling in himself. Man, he's
rolling in his reputation. Listen. As accomplishments are as accomplished accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Though, I feel like there's a lot of people who
is and this is gonna sound people are gonna take
an issue with this, but I feel like there's also
an element of like relatability, Like there's a lot of
people who have gotten those.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Situations or got wing before.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
They're like, dang, dude, just like Tiger, like they he
could almost do no wrong for the most part. That's
how I view it. Like like his fans and people
who root for him, they are always gonna be.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
By a side. I'm telling you, he's got a loyal fanbom.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
You you're part of that, that presidency of the Tiger
Woods fan base.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
The thing that I would say about Tiger is like
he he was in my daan age the goat. Now,
a lot of people would say Jack Nicholas was the
greatest of all time based on his accomplishments. I grew
up where Jack grew ups, so I would I would
give him that. But Tiger was closer to kind of
Jordan at least how how I grew up. You know, well,
you remember those moments and you're like, dang, dude, Like

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at his peak, there was no one beating Tiger, no
one like, no one could stand with Tiger at his best.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Same thing, I feel like Dan.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
When he first started getting out there. What do you say, toy?
What they say they had? Did they have something for
it back at the at the clubhouse or something. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh I remember saying, oh oh yeah, oh yeah, I
remember I don't remember specifically what it was, yet.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Had something to do with fried chicken, impossibly potentially maybe
watermeling out. I don't know. I think Fuzzy threw something
at him, like that he threw a curveball at him.
You know, I think I could be wrong. I do
believe chicken was involved.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Though I don't get it. Okay, good, he loves.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
It, he loves look at him eat it. I don't know. Man.
And before I say, you gotta stop, you gotta stop
flipping cars, bro, Like, I'm sorry, Like I get it.
You're tiger, You're the goat. You gotta stop flipping flipping cars, man, Like,

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that's that's gotta stop. I mean, if we're if we're
really addressing the real issue here, the real issue is
the concern for others. Like, if you want to continue
to prove that you don't want to look out for yourself,
that's on you, Like, that's your prerogative. You get to
wake up with the decisions knowing that you gotta deal
with the consequences. But God, Lee, man, Like, God forbid

(21:44):
if it impacted somebody else's life, man, And that's that
to me. I think it's kind of the biggest point
here is that I'm glad he got through it. I'm
glad he's okay. Get the help you need. Good cool,
because you need to get the help you need, not
only for you and yourself and for your own you know,
welfare and well being, but you know the people who

(22:06):
love and care about you. You got you got a
kid out here, you know, it looks up to you,
needs you to be around. And there's other people that
are out there on the road, man like, and you
just never know when one of these moments may take
place and what the damage of it could potentially be.
And that's like, to me, that's got to be the

(22:27):
biggest concern outside of for himself, Like what does that
mean the one time? If it's that one time or
if it's the next time and it isn't just him?
You know, that was my thought on it though, Like
when I took a more like kind of serious glance
at it, it's just like, man, it's irresponsible, bro, Like,
you're too important of a person. You got too much

(22:49):
on you, Like, you got to accept the responsibility to
who much is given, much is required. You got to
be more responsible for yourself than that. Man, I'm sorry.
One time I could get I could get with it
like as happens two times, just like, man, something ain't
right three times or more. Hey man, you don't get no,
you don't get no real like just let him off.

(23:14):
You can't get it after too, man, I'm sorry, Just
that's just me.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Though it did seem like he was gonna get you know,
just kind of away with or whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And then obviously things kind of ask what, I don't
know what the hell that Sobrieti test was that they
were doing that when he's doing like the fist over
fist thing.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
The video. Yeah, I was like, I was like, what
did this happens?

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Is that like a new Field Sobrieti test I've never
seen before.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
We're just checking, we're checking his soul hand out, you know,
I would sit there on you, Tiger, but drink with people.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Now trying to practice for it. We're like, wait, wait
a second, how does this work? Like just in case
you know, Field Sobriti, how does this go?

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Drinking games? Did?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Did one of the cops also ask him, are you
are you playing in the Masters? And so one of
the security cards was like, uh, well that's up to
you guys, almost like yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
There also was a couple of moments where it was tough.
You know, They're like, all right, you know we do
Do you have anything in the car that you need?
And he's like, yeah, my clubs if you could, like
I'm trying to play Like that was where the Master's
comment came about. And then there was some comment made
about something and he's like, yeah, my putter. He's like,
you have one fourteen majors with it. It's like all right,

(24:25):
but I don't know if we need to flex in
this moment where we're maybe getting arrested. And then there
was the call of Trump. It was like, all right, man,
that's that. I mean, we went to cop to talk
to Trump to get you out of the whole thing.
Like that was like those are a couple of flexes,
I know, but it's like, come on, come on, man.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
That's real relatable to the common man that buy his
shirt damn sold out because I can call my man
Donnie whenever I feel like calling him too. What the
difference is he's sticky WICKI so well, I guess it'd
be his ex Trump makes some good looking kids. Nah,
I don't hold him there?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, she he's with I believe Don Junior's X.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, so it's not by blood, but yikes, it's a
little different. Okay, that's interesting, Okay, all right.

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Speaker 3 (26:40):
And a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio Slacker. I
mean I like Soundgarden. It's just this is one of
my uh it's dad further down on the list of
favorite Soundgarden songs.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Had this conversation last week. How many bands can you
name that have more than three like hits, like really
good songs. Oh that's good because actually it's funny. It
relates back to Salt and Pepper. When that came up,
my initial comment to someone was, well, how many hits

(27:16):
do they have after like Shoop or whatever that one
song was that Patty wanted?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
They have like a couple others.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
But that's what I'm saying is after you get to three,
you're like, all right, did they have a fourth or fifth?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I mean, are we talking mainstream popularity, because there's there's
some bands that well, I'm just saying, man, he'd.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I should have been asked you the question had I
don't know why I tried to. I should have specifically.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Push it was a major album for Salt Pepper.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
But before we go to that, that's like, that's the
second good song.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Push. It was a super big one. Shoop was a
big one.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
That's two.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
What a man was was it was a good one.
And after that, yeah, after that, it's kind of like whatever,
you know, But.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's that's the case with most bands, Like most bands
have three hits. Than after that you're like, all right.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
New addition. Now, on the other hand, new addition, they
got a ton of hits, A ton of hits, y'all
know about new Edition. I might make new addition my
new one of my new songs that might there you go, yeah,
they they got hits. Can you stand the rain? Candy Girl?
Cool it now? Mister telephone man?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Huh was that when Bobby Brown was dating when you Houston.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
He left after that. I mean, you know, he he
wanted more, you know, if it isn't love, he wanted
more love and respect from what was going on with
you know, because Ralph Treasment was the main singer. But
Bobby Brown thought he was the king. He thought he
was the king around there. And then they then, you know,
and then so he just went and did his own thing,
you know. Then that was when he made Whitney. He

(29:01):
was on the high literally, that's that is true. Yeah,
but they're they're back on tour.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
A game. Man.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I want to see them. I want to see them perform.
I know them, I've I've i've I've hung out with
them before. Super cool dudes, Ronnie de Vous and Mike
Bid Did they compare to drum Bettest drum No, wasn't
wasn't the same. It wasn't the same setup. But definitely
cool dudes. No one, no one will ever be as

(29:33):
cool as Jerome Bettiston. Man, like Jerome Bettis was like,
he took me under his wing man, brought you on stage.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
He did.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Bell Biv Devout bought me on stage. I actually was
on stage with them while they were performing. But yeah,
I don't. I didn't see any of them flaunting the
type of calf muscles that h that Jerome Bettis has
or had whatever. At the time. They were pretty big calves. Yeah,

(30:07):
strong powerful calves.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Speaking of big calves, yeah, felt hard knocks. Is their
update there, John Well, I.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Do have another another special update for you. What is it?
On a previously uh dressed topic on the show? It
is we needed some clarification on this. You did tease it, yeah,
so here we go, like this, Brady, the old update
theme from Unsolved Mysteries, right, nothing like thirty years old?
Oh yeah, yeah, when they would update a story on

(30:38):
a on a burning body that I remember.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like this part, not the beginning you just played update.
I don't remember hearing that update.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
LeVar mentioned in discussing Tiger Woods and his Civil War
leg that he's walking around on. LaVar mentioned the fuzzy
Zeller comments, yes, yeah, I have the exact quote here.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
What's the exact quote, Zeller? What did he say? Of
course you would get the exact quote.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
In a nineteen ninety seven Masters interview.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Ninety seven. Now that was the year I was graduating
high schools, though that's been a while.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Fuzzy Zeller said, you're going to enjoy this.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Go ahead, you.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Pat him on the back and say congratulations in reference
to tiger yep, and you tell him not to serve
fried chicken next year, or collar greens or whatever the
hell they serve.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
What does he mean by they?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
So Tiger Woods is families needed some clarity. Well, no,
the master's winner gets to pick the gay.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
So I was worse than Fuzzy Zeller's because I had watermelon.
I was just trying to make it as egregious as possible.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
You had.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
You had a whole three course meal going on there.
He just mentioned too, just too. Yeah, so there's your.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Collar greens is almost I mean, you got to put
that on par with watermelon though.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Right, And they're not great?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Oh well, if they're done right, they're amazing.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Soa and I also think grits are vast overrated.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, it just depends on are you a sweet grits
or are you a.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Jonas doesn't put anything in his grits, which is is
have the issue? So yeah, true, tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
You're not wrong, You're not.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's like people probably would like.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oatmeal if you didn't put something in oatmeal.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, oatmeal. I will not eat oatmeal either. That'll end
up there.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
You make it taste better.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, I'm a buttery, salt and pepper grits guy. If
they're buttered, they're good. I don't like sweet grits.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Read the update music back up again.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Fuzzy Zeller did pass away in November of last year
at the age of seventy four, So I wonder I
just want to make sure we clarify that trod on
the man's reputation any long.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
He didn't because he said, you know, he was joking.
He got some heat for it.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
But I mean, but do you think he ate collar
greens and fried chicken? Tiger on his deathbit?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Wasn't he a Perkins fan?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't know if they stir.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
In that turkey. I don't know Thanksgiving dinners there. I'm
not sure I was talking about Fuzzy. You know, it
might have been the coincidence or to irony of the
fact that he said it and he probably liked collar
greens and chicken. I mean, it's a great it's a
great combo, I gotta tell you. And every once in
a while, if you mix some cabbage into that that

(33:39):
some Greens.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Fire man, I can't think of a better way of
segue into hard knocks than this right now.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's segue into it. Over from
that on over to this. Hard Knocks is back, except
with a twist. Because it used to be where they
would just announce one team. This year they announced two.
So we now know the two teams in the Super Bowl,

(34:07):
the Seahawks and the Patriots are going to be in
this year's Hard Knocks for Seattle and next year's Hard
Knocks for New England. And people were asking the question,
why would they announce the next two. They've never done
that before. Adam Schefter take it away.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
So the NFL has been asking teams to do hard
knocks and the answer always says next year, we'll do
it next year. So what the NFL did this year
When the New Engle Patriots said we'll do it next year,
they said.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
You're in.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
You've got twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
Congratulations, And so they taken the two Super Bowl participants,
the Seahawks this summer in twenty six, the Patriots next
summer in twenty seven, and they held their feet to
the fire.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
If you've got to do that to get somebody to participate.
Isn't that a sign that maybe we got to move
off of hard knocks? Like if you've got to basically
trick teams into doing hard knocks because they don't want
to do it, nobody wants to do it, nobody likes it.
Can we just get rid of it?

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Like?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Why is this still happening? There's enough content out there,
there's enough documentaries, there's enough stuff out there that you
can watch on the NFL podcast streaming, Like, there's all
these different options out there, and for whatever reason, they
still shove it down everybody's throat. And I don't get it.
I really don't understand.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's got to be HBO and wherever they're paying the
NFL for the rights of it, NFL Films produces it,
so the NFL has some sort of control over what
gets out what doesn't remember how we had to do
away with all the I mean, really the stuff that
people watched for you know, as much as we hate
to admit it, part of the reality TV to the
actual show itself was seeing guys get cut, was seeing guys' reactions,

(35:55):
was feeling like you were watching a real Life interview
the course of training camp, and that was the stakes
you had.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Players were either.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Going to make it or they weren't, and you got
to see behind the scenes how that was going to
work out. Then that grueling portion of the year where
football players are preparing themselves to go into it back
in the day sixteen games now seventeen game season, but
that was what it was all about. Unfortunately, we had
to you know, dumb it down and we had to

(36:25):
cut out some of the drama because agents got sensitive
about their players and the players obviously didn't like it,
so then they wouldn't want to participate. So I just
want to know how much HBO is paying the NFL
to license these rights.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Because otherwise to your point, like why are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean I also did realized, you know, they used
to pay players to be a part of it, Like
that's what make up to eight thousand dollars for the series,
the rookies to like two thousand really just to be
a part of it.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, I never heard of that.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I didn't either, but I was kind of researching all
this and this dates back to like two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
That's crazy where they had to start incentivizing.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Guys, Why is it so? Why are people so resistant
to it? Why you guys think they're so resistant to
wanting to do hard?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Okay, because I think what leads to my question. I
was going to ask you guys, is it realistic? Is
it still realistic?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
It's not realistic. You know, you're allowing someone else to
kind of shape the story for the drama. You don't
have control over it. And that's the truth is you'd
want all these teams, and you think about every head coach.
They want to control the messaging. So once you bring
in cameras and someone else has editorial control, it changes

(37:41):
things and they have to make a show out of it.
So they've got to over exaggerate or dramatize more than
they really need to. That's the reality of it is.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
It's a distraction to every coach, every player. That's a
part of it.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
And unless you have direct control over what gets out,
you don't want them come and infiltrating your your you know,
your training cab, your room.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Sure, yeah, I guess that makes sense. I just I
don't know, it's interesting. I feel like anytime you could
Why are you laughing at brouh that's the other way
you come on from this really walking on water sure enough,

(38:24):
you know, I just look at I look at any
opportunity that, like JJ Watt took full advantage of hard knocks.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I think that's what turned me against it.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Really. Yeah, see that's what I was, like goy Lee
talk about branding yourself and and and showing that you know,
this is why he's who he is, Like it was,
I thought it was an amazing opportunity for him to
build himself. I would always in my mind, if you
had these these situations which shows or or you know,

(38:57):
like the Sunday Show where they do the the spotlighting
of you and stuff like that, I thought that you
were supposed to do it, you know. I thought that
it made sense to do it because if you can
gain exposure, make sure you're you're doing what you need
to do in those moments that you get the opportunity
to gain that exposure. But that's just how I think
a lot of guys don't like being in front of

(39:19):
the camera or don't like kind of taking advantage of
having those types of opportunities. But if I'm on one
of those teams, I'm coming in with a plan if
they if they you know, if they edit me out,
like if I'm not big enough or if you are
a big enough name, whatever it may be, if they
edit it up and it doesn't come out the way
you want, then that's that's a whole another I guess,

(39:41):
a different, different conversation.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But yeah, but do you need to do you need
hard knocks anymore? Like, I just think it's run its course.
When it was when it first came out, it was
fascinating to see behind the scenes how all this stuff
operated and how this stuff worked. But I feel like
there's so much content surrounding the NFL. You already know, oh,
you already know what's happening, and you know liked the

(40:05):
Joe Shane how that played out with the Saquon Barkley stuff.
When that came like to me, I don't know. And
John Schneider, who's the GM of the Seahawks, is saying, oh,
you listen, we'll embrace it. We're gonna have a good
time with it. I'm gonna talk to Ryan Poles and
these other guys who are part of it and get
their thoughts on it, and like, why is it you
just want a Super Bowl? Why are they doing it.

(40:28):
It used to be to where there was this criteria
that if you made the playoffs a year before, you
didn't have to your qualified. It was teams who didn't
have first year coaches and all this stuff. And then
within the last couple of years they relaxed those rules
because they couldn't get anybody that wanted to be a
part of it. And so now you've got the Patriots.
They're like, hey, yeah, we get we'll do it next year,
and the NFL's forcing them into doing it because they

(40:50):
can't get anybody else to take part in it. And
if nobody else wants to take part in it, let's
just scrap the whole thing. What's the point. That's like
the Pro Bowl. You just keep rolling out out these
different concoctions of whatever the new Pro Bowl is, And
I'm watching the one this past year, going this sucks.
Why are we doing this?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I don't want to see the same game play about
the same people and they balling. I just I don't.
I tried to make a competitive and that that uh,
that Pro league didn't.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
There's there's enough, look to say, there's enough coverage of
the NFL to where I think people now know sort
of how this whole thing works. And that's why I
ask you guys, the question how realistic is it now?
Because if if editorial control is handed out to where
you can manipulate how the story goes, it's just one
of these candy ass reality shows that you know, like

(41:42):
The Hills or Laguna Beach or whatever, to where they're
they're shooting three different endings to determine which one they want.
That's not a reality show. It's just I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I think the other thing is training camp isn't what
it used to be. You used to be able to see,
like the gro process that was training camp, that the hitting,
the pain, you could feel that, you could sense it.
And with that, because it was more physical, came more
emotions from it too. So I think that's also what

(42:13):
stored up some of the drama, the fights, et cetera.
You know, now you get some fights every once in
a while, but it's not I mean again, it's it
is what it is. I mean, I just to your point,
they jumped the shark a while ago. I don't understand
why I still do it. I just I want to
know the economics of I want to know how much
the NFL is getting paid from HBO for this to

(42:34):
want to still keep doing this that you can't find
the number of whatever it is. If I'm one of
the broadcast partners, I don't know why i'd look at
them and just say, we can do this better, or
we can work with every individual team, you know, to
isolate those fan bases and come out with thirty two
of these instead of you know, for those fan base

(42:55):
as opposed to one for one team. I don't know,
it feels like there's there's some if you want to
keep doing it, there's probably something.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Better there than what they've got with this current model.
Just it seems outdated.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, I was. I think that would be a great idea.
I mean, and and listen, teams are always trying to
figure out ways to engage their their fan base. If
you did it in an impactful way through content, of
course it would be well received, you know. I just
it's weird. It's like almost like Hard Knocks got such

(43:30):
a horrible you know, just a horrible reputation for one
reason or another. I don't I don't really know why,
but I do think that if you were to if
you were to some way, somehow figure out how to
do it by organization. The organization were to be the

(43:51):
catalyst of how it's done, I bet you they would
be more more into it, more you know, excited about
doing it. You know, why wouldn't you be? I don't know.
I just I think anytime you're taking content to highlight
your your players, you're highlighting your fans and you know

(44:12):
things that you can kind of get people excited about it.
I don't see why people have an issue with it.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Do do players curse at training camp? Like? Is there
like a lot of foul language at training camp? Like
around the facility?

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Because when the Bears did it, they made sure that
there was no cursing on any of the episodes, Like
they wanted to make sure that it was neat and
clean so that families could also watch it. Dude, that's
not a reality show, all right. That it's now a
TV show And if you want reality, you're gonna have

(44:49):
to go elsewhere. And that's why I look at it
and go, all right, well, then let's just script the
entire thing, Like let's do fake trades, fake fights, like,
let's just script the entire thing. It sucks, It doesn't
work anymore. And you HBO's got a lot of balls.
If they're paying a ton of money to the NFL,
then you got that kind of money to throw around.

(45:11):
Why don't you bring back boxing? Okay, if you got
that kind of money to throw.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Around, work twenty four to seven, work with Box.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Of course, and they're great. HBO does great stuff. But
Hard Knocks isn't one of them.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
It's done, and it was the same format. That's where
it came from, right, Hard Knocks came from Box.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Maybe maybe this is maybe this is the fix? All right,
you bring back Harold.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Letterman, Okay, Jim. You see we're watching him go to
the body early of the round, and then you see
later in the round he just kind of steps back
and he takes his foot off the gas. He can't
do that and expect to win rounds in a fight
like this. I got a thirty to twenty seven pack
out with the lead going into round four.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Jim, Now, the unfortunate reality is you have to bring
back Harold. Let him in via AI because he's no
longer with us. But I do feel like if you
could bring I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, he passed away about seven years ago.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
But how do you feel if you can bring back
some sort of like Harold Letterman like that sort of personality,
because who's the guy who does it?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
The voice is iconic, but also it's it's to your point,
you need a little bit more to it.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Oh well, the guy who does the voiceover for Hard
Knocks is Leave Schreiber, Ray Donna. Yeah really, yeah, that's
who does it. Yeah, I thought it was the other dude, Charles.
That's a football Yeah, that's yeah, that's uh yeah, what's
his name? Uh from Baltimoretire. Yeah, he's from Baltimore. Yeah,

(46:42):
Josh Charles, I think. But yeah, Leave Schreiber does all
the HBO voiceover work and he's the guy from Ray Donovan. Interesting,
Yeah right, I wasn't aware of that as well. He's
well I was gonna say, Larry Merchant.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Larry Merchant, Merchant, he's still.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Going ninety five years old, Larry.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Murri kick your ash.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Like, No, you wouldn't, Larry, You would not kick any
of them dudes asses. You would not. Oh my god.

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Speaker 4 (48:00):
So you think that's funny?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Is this New Kids on the Block?

Speaker 3 (48:05):
This song sucks?

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah? What are you doing? So I say new edition
and you I say new addition? You go with New
Kids on the Block.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
But listen to my reasoning because you know that song
that New Kids on the Block had a bunch of hits.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's that's why.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Up with that.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, it's horrible, It's a great song, horrible, no offense.
This is the Wallburgs, Right, they were in this this band.
What is that like, there's a bunch of boy bands. Yeah,
I think there was a bunch of boy bands. Yeah,

(48:46):
by the way, good Burgers.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Yeah, but Wallburgs weren't. Weren't Uh, that wasn't Backstreet Boys?
Was it that kids on the block? New kids on
the block?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Right? A lot of boy bands? Man, dang, there were.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Nicholas. She's killing it with his Dayton show man. That's
all I know them shows is killing it killer What
was he ninety eight degrees?

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, yeah, you know that.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
You're up on that game.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I know who they are. I mean, they're they're talented dudes.
For certain, man, there was a time his shorty was
like the catch too, Like everybody's like, oh my gosh,
he's he's with her.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Well, he had the speaking of reality shows, he had
the one with Jessica Simpson, and yeah, you could tell,
you could tell in watching that that wasn't for long. No,
I wasn't going to be Yeah he did. He seemed
pretty worn out.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
He's a O hi O guy. He's from from Ohio, right,
he's from Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah, I believe maybe it was.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
I don't know if he was if he went to
my Ohio or was just USC I think he might
have just hung around Southern when he was out there,
but definitely from since Cincinnati, Ohio. He's done a lot
of good stuff too in that environment for the UH
for like over the Rhine that area. I believe he's
got a bar, restaurant something like that.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
He seems like a good dude. Great dude, yeah, great dude.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Yeah. Well I know this.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
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So the Philadelphia Eagles take the crown of most miserable

(50:40):
good franchise that I think I've ever seen in my life.
Here's the latest on the drama surrounding Jalen Hurts, because
there was some stuff that came out last week on
ESPN where people have talked about, you know, Jalen Hurts again,
you know, players not you know, maybe big fans of

(51:00):
his style, the way he plays his you know, not
wanting to take risks to try and you know, have
the offense catered towards what he wants to do as
opposed to, you know, utilizing the weapons around him. So on,
this like the same old stuff we've heard about Jalen
Hurts and the drama coming out of Philly for a
couple of years now. And according to Jeff McClain of

(51:25):
the Philadelphia Inquirer and also Marcus Hayes, a columnist for
the Inquirer, they've said that the Eagles have used the
media to try and get through to Jalen Hurts, that
they've they've these stories that come out that this may
be from the Philadelphia Eagles to try and get Jalen
Hurts out of this whatever he's got going on with

(51:48):
Philly that is rubbing people the wrong way. And this
this from Jeff McClain quote. Jalen Hurts knows this is
the last year of his guaranteed money. He knows the
cat the cats out on some of his baggage. You've
got to be able to produce. You can't be near
the bottom of the league. In passing two years in
a row. With the amount of talent that we have.

(52:10):
It's not acceptable. And it's everybody saying it. From owner
Jeffrey Lorii on down. Everybody is on the same page.
So never mind the fact won a Super Bowl, went
to another one. They're in the playoffs every single year.
Never mind all that. Let's use the media. Who Jeff

(52:31):
McLain from the Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Enquirer, which means he is getting it from somebody internally, right,
wouldn't we agree on that? Yeah, that's one hundred percent,
Like you're not just going like, if you're Jeff McLain,
you're not going to report something random like that, Like
that's coming from somebody. That's it. I don't care if
it's the ball boy, it's coming from somebody within the organization. Yeah,

(52:56):
we'd all agree on that. Yeah, yeah, Well if that's
the case, man, that is some damning that. That's damning. Bro.
How are you not an ft up like all the
way messed up organization when you're doing stuff like that
like that's crazy. That's your quarterback, for one. You should
be guarding and protecting him like like he's the crown

(53:18):
jewels for one. Right then for two and then for two.
Even if these things are true, which because I can
think back, you know, Peterson didn't really want to play right,
He didn't blame that much to begin with. He was
trying to figure it out with with other other guys,

(53:38):
and I think it brought up the conversation points of
you know, why this, why that was? Why would you
go in a different direction. I think he ended up
kind of losing his job off of it, right like
he started another QB, wanted to see what that QB
could do, Like why do you do these types of things?
But I still feel like ultimately the offsetting of it

(54:01):
all is that they have gone to the Super Bowl
and both of the Super Bowls, Jalen Hurts played better
than the best quarterback in all of football and Patrick
Mahomes and split one to one lost one. I think
when you have that type of success, I find that

(54:25):
hard to kind of comprehend that you would have such
a hardline stance or you would actually allow for somebody
within the organization to put this out there, because to
me right now, it's propaganda versus it being real life,
real life criticisms of Jalen Hurts. Why let this happen.

(54:46):
Why not handle this internally? I just I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
It's hard to speculate from the outside what exactly the
issue is that they have with him or what he's
doing behind the scenes. I mean, at the end of
the day, this leads about winning, and and they're winning.
You know, they're in this window now where they've built
up a roster, they've won one, they've been to a
couple now and to your point, like he's played really
well in some of the biggest moments, and I understand

(55:10):
there's been frustration if you look at the offense throughout
the course of the year, especially for Eagles fans, you know,
they'll be the first to tell you, agent how would
be the first to tell you that. Being said, you're
also switching out coordinators quite frequently.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I mean some who've hit.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Become a head coach and some who've been an absolute
swing and a miss. So that to me makes it
difficult to really understand.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
You know how who you can point the blame at.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
And if the point the finger to I think you know,
you also have a guy in Jalen Hurts who to me,
he seems very calm, very poised. He doesn't get too high,
doesn't ever get too low. Maybe that rubs some guys
the wrong way. Maybe, And I'm not sure how that
locker room receives it. And I don't know how he
conducts himself in the locker room with other guys. From

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all my accounts I've ever been around the young man,
he seemed like a really really good guy. I would
say the most volatile person is their head coach. Yeah,
so like I don't know how much that plays a
role in all of it. Where there is like a
yinging and yang to this where I don't think you
can have two volatile people where it mix. Where there

(56:22):
were once high ones low, they're both high. It's just
you know, that to me is a recipe for a disaster.
So that's the hard thing about you know, hearing about
this or reading reports, if they are leaking things out
intentionally because they're getting.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
More often than not the results they're looking for.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I mean, this was a division that really had a
hard time finding someone who's I mean, if you played
in it, it was it was hard to find a
repeat division winner for years. And now the Eagles look
like that team that every single year they're the favorite,
they're the team you're expecting to win it, and they're
one of the top teams in the NFC. And you know,
credit to Howi Roseman for the roster he's built, but

(57:04):
also takes Jalen hurts kind of playing and winning style
of football. I understand the passing numbers may not come
along with that sometimes, but he seldom puts the ball
in harm's way and he's been able to find ways
of getting the Super Bowls and winning a Super Bowl.
So it's just a bit surprising me if this is true,
this is the manner that they would go about doing it.

(57:25):
I don't understand why people feel like they need to
work through the media in order to grab guys attention.
Maybe they feel like it's a different pressure point because
having a sit down, one on one conversation nowadays doesn't
have the same effect it used to.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But I think there's other issues.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
If you're just speaking specifically offensively, where you've got, you know,
an ever changing role at offensive coordinator, it feels like
a head coach who seems like at times could be
a bit volatile. And I'm not saying Jalen Hurts doesn't
have his struggles too. There's no doubt that the development,

(58:02):
it seems like, has stopped at a certain point, from
him playing from the pocket, from him being able to
throw the football consistently at a really, really high level.
But again, when he's had to step up in the
biggest moments, he's done exactly that.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
So I'm really not sure what to make of any
of this.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
I just find it strange. Listen, Saquon almost had a
record setting year in the Super Bowl year. They said
he was the missing link. They get him, they go
win it. Everything is justified all as well, what are
we blaming Saquon's fall law four? Oh now he's over

(58:41):
to Heill. He only had one good season in him.
I think it comes back to what you said earlier, Q,
that you've changed, you changed coordinators. If you had something
that was working, then you hold on to it. You
don't let that go because you don't. There's no guarantees

(59:02):
that you can find what it was that you created
with the person that you created it with. It just
doesn't it's not it doesn't always play out like it
did with the New England Patriots. It isn't just you know,
fill it in, do your job. We keep winning. Like

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if you get somebody who's good at what they're doing.
You won the Super Bowl with this guy, you keep them.
I mean, look at what happened to the Detroit lines.
You know they that mean they tried to be better,
They tried to be okay, but they just weren't okay.
You lost two of your coordinators and Ben Johnson showed

(59:43):
that he is legit by what he did in Chicago.
So to me, I just I find myself it's curious
because probably isn't you know, Jalen Hurts probably isn't void
of of any like like. He probably is liable for
some of the things, some of these things, some of it.

(01:00:04):
But should it be playing out in the media for
one and two? How much of it should be at
at Jalen Hurts his feet when the whole entire team
took a step back. I mean, you had a Hall
of Fame center who was probably a leader, good, good guy,
probably to be around. He leaves, you know, you you

(01:00:25):
who was the guy on the defensive side of the ball.
They ended up bringing him back. But brand Brandon Graham,
you had some leaders you know, step away. It wasn't
the same team either. Now you have you still have
the talent, you still had the talent at the receiver position,
you still had the talent at at the running backs position.

(01:00:46):
There should have there should have been more production out
of Jalen Hurts, but there should have been more production
out of this offense. And I just wonder, is the
blame getting placed at the wrong at the wrong person
being Is it being thrown at the wrong person here?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
If you were to, like just without knowing the team,
if you were to say to anybody, all right, so
here's what a four year window is gonna look like
for you. You're gonna go fifty to eighteen. You're gonna
go to two Super Bowls and you're gonna win one
of them. You happy with that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Not in Philadelphia, No, they're not. No, then in Philadelphia
they're going to go to the media to try and
get their quarterback to pay attention because apparently nobody likes them.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
That they have been happy if they got at least
one playoff appearance, Oh my god, one AFC Championship game
out of Deshaun Watson out of that team, out of
that roster they had the Bear Mayfield the Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
The Bears hosted a playoff game, and they're building a
statue out in front of Soldier Field now in Philly. Miserable. Yeah,
the statues got fingernail, Paul, it's miserable. Everybody's miserable. I
don't understand. But all right, story goes and continues in Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
That's not good though. That's definitely not good man. And
for them to have maintained I mean, granted that Philly
does deal in drama sometimes, it's not like they've not
ever had drama. I mean even you know, back to
when t O was in his driveway and stuff like that,
Like they still win, they still win. They do well
in drama. I mean that's just kind of how the

(01:02:22):
city culture is too. They do well in drama. But
it's not good. If things go bad this year, we'll
look back at times like this when it was in
the you know, media, the way it's been, and we'll
we'll reference these points. As you saw the cracks, You
saw the cracks taking place, and they got bigger and bigger.
And look at what we're looking at now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
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