May 5, 2026 • 41 mins
In Hour 2 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss why the Pittsburgh Steelers may be starting to wear thin with the whole Aaron Rodgers situation. Plus, the guys make a bet on Penn State vs Notre Dame rookie RB's this year, Michael Penix's injury update, and more!!
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
So there's.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Apparently some level of concern, or at least that's what
the report says. And who knows if this is this
is one hundred percent accurate or even fifty percent accurate.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Who's reporting it all right?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Jerry Dulik of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. He is saying
that the Steelers patients with Aaron Rodgers could be wearing
thin quote after watching two of their effected deadlines come
and go and insisting this isn't the same situation as
last year. The Steelers might not be so understanding. If
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this drags on for two more weeks, If Rogers hasn't
given them a decision by the start of organized team
activities on May eighteenth, their latest deadline, their patients will
start to turn into frustration and maybe something more. The
Steelers had some measure of expectation that Rogers might return
by the start of the NFL combine at the end
of February. Then, based on their conversations with them, they
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had a realistic expectation a decision would come by the
start of the NFL Draft. But apparently this is not
about money. That isn't caught up in any of this
stuff here. They were just under the impression that they
would have an answer, at least according to this report
by now, and they've gotten none. So now we've got
the two week deadline out there, which all this means
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is that as far as this show goes, Brady Quinn's
going to win the bet. We'll get an answer on
Aaron Rodgers or point wait, hold on, hold on, when
he signs? We said when he signs, Well, he said
June first, And if this you know, reporting is correct,
that would put it closer to June first than our pick.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know that any
of us are going to win. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What do you mean we said closest to it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, you don't think he's gonna sign that's correct, Okay,
I think it's I think this is like all right.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So well, first off, I thought that we made it
the decision, not about just necessarily signing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, Well, well then that's that's a little different. If
it's if it's the decision altogether, that's it's coming, it's
it's it's quickly winding down. Like Jerry now du lak
Is is a very very well respected reporter for the state.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's what. That's why I was like, who's saying that?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, okay, Well, and he's right. I mean, if he's
saying it, that means that somebody is in the organization
is letting him know that that like we we're not
we're not whipped it. So what that you know, you
gotta believe that that's an indicator once that type of
speculation happens. If if Aaron Rodgers has any intentions of
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coming back, then he needs to come back now. He
needs to make his intentions known. Now. This isn't the
good will that you had when you were in in
Green Bay. This is a very different situation. So and
they drafted, they drafted a QB. I just and they
already have too, which I mean, you know, you could
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call that whatever you want to call it, but I
just I think that they're if he's going to if
he's going to come back, so too huge point or
his prediction if he's going to come back. I get
the feeling that it's a now or never situation.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wonder, and this is just speculation.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
If he feels like once he gives him that, hey
I'm back that, then you're on the clock and and
everything they one from you are going to ask from you,
that's that starts. And he knows that, you know, like
right now, if he keeps kind of pushing this off,
but in his mind has the intentions of being there
June one, being there for the mandatory mini camp. He
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knows that he can like spend this last portion of
his off season, his free time the way he wants
to without feeling that stress, feeling that obligation, or having
to field those calls of hey, you're.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Gonna come in? What are you gonna come in?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Like We've got this plan for you like this, this, this, this,
and it's like, look man, like I'm on my own
time when I want to come in, I'm going to
come in. I've done this long enough. I know how
to prepare my body. I know what all goes into this.
I was there with you guys last year. I know
it's a new coach, but I know his system. I
was with him a long time, so I wonder if
there's an element of that to a play where he's
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just pushing this off as long as he has to. Again,
like if you go back to the person he who
influenced him the most in Brett Favre, didn't Brett have
that like farm or whatever, the big property he used
to take care of Dad and was it Mississippi? And
he would go there and just disconnect from the world,
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and no one really knew what his intentions were, what
his plans were, And so he decided to come back,
and by the way that still worked out, all was forgiven,
team still accepted it, everything else.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So I understand the impatience, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Sure there's a thought that if we start putting out stuff,
maybe it puts more pressure on him to make a decision,
But that's not how he operates. That's not gonna persuade
him or motivate him to make a decision. Sooner, I
think he knows what decision he's going to make, and
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I think he's going to come back for one more
run at it and I think Pittsburgh's going to be
that place.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
What's interesting to me is like I think Florio or
someone floated the idea of the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I don't see that. I don't know what you guys think,
but I.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Don't that he's basically Floria's trying to connect the dots
to where You've got Mike laflor who was with the
Rams and they were interested in Rogers last year, brother
of Matt Lafleur, who coached Rogers for years. There's also
Nathaniel Hackett, who's the offensive coordinator there, and obviously we
know the relationship between those two, and they don't seem
to have a clear starter at quarterback. Yeah, I just
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I don't think that there's anybody other than Pittsburgh that
makes sense. And they can get as impatient as they want,
but they sort of set this in motion. They've put
themselves in this spot to where they're relying on the
word and commitment from a guy who's not ready to
give his word and commitment, and so they can get
impatient all they want, if anything like when this sort
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of one of the things he hated about the Jets
was all the leaks, all the stuff in the media,
all the speculation, all the stuff that came out there
of anything, this would almost to me do the opposite
instead of motivating him to come back, almost be like,
why is this stuff going public? Who in the organization's
talking to Jerry Dulik that would have this information? What
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is going on here? Ultimately, I think he Pittsburgh is
the only option. I think that's where he ends up.
But you know, to see this stuff come out, it
clearly had to come from somebody within the organization.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
When things like this happened, once you can get through it.
This happened last year. There were conversations Mike Tomlin continued
to have the clear up conversations of what they were
going to do with Aaron Rodgers. This is not a
team that had great success with Aaron Rodgers last year.
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In fact, to the tune of Mike Tomlin stepping away
from the team as they coached. So this is a
franchise that needs to regroup and put together what they're
going to do. You bring in your new coach. That
new coach, while he does have familiarity with Aaron Rodgers,
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they have worked together and they call him the quarterback Whisperer.
Who helped develop and was a major part of Aaron
Rodgers development when he came into the league. But this
is not a great career move by Mike McCarthy in
a last opportunity to be a head coach. You can't
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be wasting time with the same type of drama that
you dealt with with him in Green Bay. Can't do it.
And I think that that's an added element to this conversation,
is that there's a familiarity to this situation from a
prior relationship, a prior stop between the two of them.
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I just don't think it's a good look. You gotta
believe that the Steelers are fully aware of it, and
that's why they placed the tender on them. They're fully
aware of what they're thinking. I feel like when they
placed the tender on them, it was like, we're moving on.
We're moving on, and if you're going to come in,
then we can rethink it from there. But as far
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as I'm concerned, we're not playing this type of game.
You got until this time to come in. And yes,
he is probably doing what you said, QUI probably is
trying to keep his options open, have his free time,
have his spare time because once he says he's coming back,
he's got to do it. But that's what they want.
So is he in position to be able to dictate that?
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Are the Steelers going to allow for him to dictate that?
I think by what they're releasing to the media, they
are slowly letting him know that, yeah, we're we're not
playing that game with you. So I don't know how
that works in terms of if he's not reporting and
he's not deciding to play, I guess it's like, look,
you're gonna play for the Steelers or you're not. And
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if you're not going to play for the Steelers and
you're you are trying to go to the Cardinals or
somewhere else, then we're gonna get compensated for moving on.
Like I kind of feel like that's where it kind
of gives me. We were moving on from Aaron Rodgers vibes.
That's what gives me.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wouldn't it be, well, hold on.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Real quick, are you moving on from Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I mean, I've never been with Aaron Rodgers to move
on from.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Him, So if he so, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I mean, you're a hinser the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I wasn't with him when he came to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So if the Steelers had this, I'm with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If they were, if they're now at the point to
where they're like, man, we don't care, we're moving on.
Why didn't you just do that a couple of months ago?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Why didn't Aaron Rodgers just have like, let's be clear,
why didn't you just have the conversation, I don't want
to be around. I want to play, and I want
to come back and I want to play, but I
don't want to be on your clock until it's time
to be on the clock. Can we can we be
okay with that? So the fact that they don't feel
that type of level of confidence in him where they
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would take the approach they're taking, now, that's a lack
of commune the case.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, I would also say, if you're the Steelers, knowing
the situation you're in, because if he comes back, he's
gonna come back for one year. If you're the Steelers,
why wouldn't you have just said if we can get
a clear answer, then we're good. But if it's an
I don't know, then to us that's a no. We
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got to move on and we've got to go in
a different direction, because I just don't I think this
may have been sort of mismanaged. If this ultimately ends
up in Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers not coming together on
a deal, then I think there's gonna be some second
guessing as to if this was how this was going
to play out. Why didn't you guys just step up
and make the call early in the office.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Was he good enough last year for this to be
that big of a conversation? His last two seasons have
not been impressive enough, Like you're doing it base like
the whole Deshaun Watson conversation, Like you're basing it off
of the potential of what the guy was, not what
he is.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, but for fifteen million, buff bad.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's a lot of money for one, even if it's
low key, like low on the low end of the
scale obviously, but you're gonna get what you paid for. Like,
if your offering fifteen million bucks, then what do you
get ten million last year? And you got it and
you got a damn good year ten million that level
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from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Did they even make the playoffs? Did they make the playoffs? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
They did?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Kind of Okay, did they really yeah, I remember they
got wiped out by Houston.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah they did. Listen, it's you're not getting prime Aaron Rodgers. Prime.
Aaron Rodgers is gone. If you're Mike McCarthy, if I
felt like I could win immediately with Aaron Rodgers, sure
you take an aggressive approach, or you take an approach
where you're like, let Aaron do Aaron. We're gonna get
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Aaron and everything's gonna be okay. These things that are
going on right now don't happen. If you had that
confidence in Aaron Rogers and now you got Will Howard,
you got Drew Aller, why aren't you just saying, you
know what, we got two of the better quarterbacks out
of out of the best conference in college football right now,
and there's the potential that we could develop and find
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the gym in one of these two guys. Why not
why not just turn and shift your attention to these
younger guys. I would feel like at this point that
would be a.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
More feasible and better option for the Steelers to start
building towards the future versus trying to be a one
and done scenario with a guy that apparently is going
to do things the way he wants to do them,
and he's going to come when he wants to pause.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I mean, he's gonna he's going to show up when
he wants to show up.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm still doing that pause thing.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, it did sound kind of sus That's how I felt,
But you're right, Brady, it was a really good point.
He's going he's going to show up when he's I
need to show up, and I just don't know that
that's worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
By the way, you mentioned Will Howard and Drew Aller.
Do you hear what Ben Roethlisberger had to say about
what he said? You know, he didn't get a lot
to watch a lot of Penn State games, but just
in the tape that he watched and Drew Aller, nothing
really jumped off the page to him, but it did
with Will Howard.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So how's that land?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean will matter either?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Will Will Howard went on to win a national championship.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So I will say this, if Big Ben goes and
watches them both throw, he's gonna be more impressed with
Drew Allers. He will like that dude's got a cannon
and he can frip that thing, and it's it's different.
I think the interesting storyline between both these two just
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because that's.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Where we're here right now. Is Will Howard was a
PA kid.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
He was he didn't get recruited by Penn State morning
obviously ends up finding his way to Ohio State to
then beat Penn State, and that's part of, you know,
his story. And then Drew Allen was an Ohio kid,
didn't great recruited really by Highes State, goes to Penn State,
and so that's kind of the other side of the
story with all this.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So it's it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
A wild So who's more Pittsburgh. I I think I
gotta go with the man. I gotta go with the PA. Well,
he's not, he'd say Will Howard. I don't think he's
not from West pr Yeah. Yeah, I think he's actually
from East PA. Yeah right, is he closer to Philly. Yeah,
that's not a that's that's a total antithesis.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Actually, Okay, well again, and I think.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We're going to take Drew as we will take Drew Allerc.
We're not.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I've said this, and like when I first was watching
Drew Allery, he kind of reminded.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Me a little bit of Big Ben. Yeah, similar in size,
Big Ben.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I think was a better athlete and moves better, but
like both very strong arms, and I think I'm not
again I'm not saying try to say Drew Alis and
become big men. But I could see in the right
system with Mike McCarthy, who has done really well coaching
young quarterback and developing young quarterbacks, I could see him
progressing and becoming the quarterback that I think. And LaVar
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you talked about this like you know better than I,
and once you said that, I was like, that makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It just never really.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Transformed into like what I thought he was going to
be by the end of his time at Penn State.
But he had changes of coordinators and the offense never
really felt like it meshed with what it should have been.
Like honestly, they should have been running what they were
with Kerry Collins back in the day, like under center,
I back formation like your base personnel, but right like
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with that bat deal well the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Backfield times and tight end.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
And lines like that's what you had, so play to
that and then adjust off of that the other wrinkles
it and it never really was that during his time there.
So maybe you're right, Maybe it was James Franklin kind
of micromanaging all of it. The good thing is he
doesn't worry about that now. I mean, think about the
personnel they've got there. They've they've got receivers. But you
got those two big ass tight ends. Yes, and they
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right ends.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm the biggest, the largest, he's massive.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I would try to get that guy like ten touches
a game just to beat down on the other team. Like,
I don't care, Lavo, I don't care how big you are.
When you see a tight end who's almost what three
hundred pounds, come on, man, like you don't want to
see him in space down now.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Hey, I'm Drew Aler. I got them big old tight ends.
I'm going to throw it to them. Forget about Amaron Rogers.
We got it the bird. Let's do it with Pittsburgh Steelers.
We don't need them. Get rid of them. You got
the tender on it, and they're the bidgies, the largest.
Come on, come on, Okay, there's my freestyle for the week.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
By the way, Brady Brady made the point mate. State
did have a lot of guys drafted. Hey, bro, man,
our team was loaded. Bro, that's gotta be easily in
the history of our school. The biggest disappointment of a season.
It's not it's not to the I think there was
a lot of people when they saw the number of
Ohio State defensive players that got drafted and just the
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combined results, and they're looking around going what happened? Like why,
I just you see the number of Penn State guys
that got drafted and you look at you go, well,
what happened?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Bro? And the way they're talking about Vega, They're talking
like Vega might be the best drafted old lineman in
this year's draft, and they wouldn't be wrong in that assessment.
He's up there. Then you got two again, the only
comparable And I would say, and I said it going
into that Notre Dame game the year before the year prior,
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I'm taking Penn State's duo of running backs over Notre Dames.
I am, and and yes I'm biased, but I also
felt like at that point in time, I'm not so
sure they're not the better duo this year either. My god,
I'm just being round. I know, like I know what
I know. I know. Did you look at their body
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of work?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh, that sounds like a wager. You look at their
body of work better better years.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is the difference maker or the difference maker though he's
the man, he's the factor back. But let me tell
you something, Nick Singleton is a wild card player. He's
a wild card player if you ask me and k
Tron Island will be in. In theory, he will be
the better running back, most productive running back, mark my words.
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He'll be the most productive running back out of all
four of them, out of all four of them this
upcoming year, out of all four career career career.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It could be a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, we need results here, we need to be able
to make a wager on this somehow.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I just.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Hey, you know, I said, I hear you type and
go ahead. Who got the better stats coming out of college?
What running backs? I have the better stats?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well, they didn't have better stats than Jeremiah Love this year.
Like what are you basing that off of?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't know, Okay, who had better stats? What are
the stats they didn't have?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
First off, they didn't have better stats than Jeremiah Love
this year, So there's really no argument, Like.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's like, what are you trying to say? Career stats?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yes, you had two of those guys who were more
impactful yards per carry?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
What stats you want to use?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I mean, you got two guys going the first round.
How is this even a conversation? This might be the
worst take you've ever had. You say that, like you
literally watched two guys going at first round. At the
running back space, the NFL has spoken, and yet you're
standing on this hill alone like General Custard about ready
to be a sale Mashetti.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yes, I'll take that all right. So what's the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Bet better rookie sea Levar's combination versus Brady's combination rookie season?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What's the best shirt?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Bet you gotta wear a uh the other team's paraphernalia
posts on social media?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, what about you wear a LeVar eleven and he
wears around ten?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
No, that's corny.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What do you mean I'll wear I'll wear Jeremiah Love
jersey or shirt. I'll wear a Jeremiah Love shirt if
he has the best But I think he is going
to have the best year immediately. But we're talking about
the duo combined between the two. I bet you, I
bet you this. I bet you both Penn State running
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backs play more than both Notre Dame running backs. Really
more snaps? What do you mean if I say more snaps?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I was going to start him.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I'll say more snaps, Like you're gonna say that like, oh,
he's going to do it, Seattle's going to start Like
that does nothing for me? Like you're not gonna like
like try to talk me out of what I'm feeling.
I mean, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Love and Price?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You're both gonna shown his knock says to me with
a loud voice, what you made gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Start saying more? So I'm supposed to like I'm supposed
to jump out it away. I'm just gonna have two
starters for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Who's gonna start out running back for Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't know who's the uh who do they have?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Pollard? He's going to start, You're gonna start?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Can I just answer the question that LeVar asked initially?
All right, Obviously Jeremiah Love started Jendarium. Price was a backup,
so those stats are gonna be a little bit skewed.
But Jeremiah Love out rushed both k Tron Allen and
Nicholas Singleton in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The past two years.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
About how much again, uh, let's see by how much
he got two years ago he rushed more than single
in by one hundred yards I think, and K tron
By it was closer than that. Now this past season
again rushed more than them, maybe by seventy. This also
does include does not include receiving, which again unfortunately does
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not go in the favor of either running back from
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But Love outrushed both the past two years and obviously
had more yards from scrimmage as well.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I say, K tron Allen will be starting for the
Commanders and we'll have the better year out of all
of the backs we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
All Right, I'll take my two Notre Dame running backs again,
who the NFL shows in the first round again, that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Will be better than both your Penn State running backs.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I wouldn't expect you to do anything else other than that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I think a blind man who's listening to this conversation
would also agree with me. That's never seen any of
the running backs play would probably just be like, yeah,
I like the two guys they took.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
In the freak, Sure you ate this.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They're both gonna start unless they're gonna get injured, Like
they're gonna end up rushing and having more production.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Save Brady Quinn saying all of these things because you're
going to eat these words this time next year, You're
going to eat these words. That's you, and it's gonna
be and it's going to be good. It's going to
be good.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
God, you're not even owning up to what you said
this past year.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Like you just tried to say that they rushed.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
More than Jeremiah Love, and they did say that they
rushed more. I said that you said earlier this year
you thought they were the better, and they weren't there
even in the biggest game Penn States played since God,
I don't know how long they didn't show out the
way Jeremiah Love did to beat them to go to
the national championship. There is zero argument to be made.
It's just completely biased.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Again, just like just like Jonas, you can't raise job
voices at me and get me to be like, yeah,
you're right. I would say say I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Okay, but I'm over forty all right, and I'm still working,
I'm still competing, but my energy is dropping.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Tell us why waits.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Start to stick?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Tell us what to discipline problem, LeVar, It's it's a bilegial'
getting old.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
It doesn't mean you have to accept it or I
have to accept it.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
True, But look, I take M Drive every day, drive
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All right, two pros and a cup of Joe Fox
Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the hair.
You know who's gonna have a I'd love to hear
his pick. Pete Prisco on the little bet you guys
have Notre Dame versus Penn State running backs next year.
(27:48):
Wonder which way Prisco's sale is gonna blow? I could
cure less he breaks all these down. No, he's a
raft guru.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm a stand on it.
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in about twelve minutes from now. Right now, you're going
(28:23):
to hear Matt Ryan who he's running the show there
in Atlanta, and he is the guy for the Atlanta
Falcons making decisions. He was on with the fan in
Atlanta yesterday talking about Michael Pennix Junior's rehab and also
what that looks like for him next year when it
comes to the quarterback situation.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
I think the biggest thing is you just don't know
where Michael's going to be at. You know, he's doing
a great job. I mean he since I took the
job back in January, at the beginning of January. I mean,
he's been in there doing rehab, working with our rehab guy,
Nick Karpino, who's done a great job with him. You know,
Jake File, the athletic training staff. Those guys have done
a great job. But you got to give the player credit.
(29:02):
Mike has been he's been on it and you know,
he looks good. He's done a lot of stuff for
us on the field. As far as expectations, we don't
really know what to expect at the beginning of training camp.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So this is to his gig right, He's going to
be the start in Atlanta because I look at it
and I go the people that you know wanted Michael
Pennix Junior there that that regime is gone. He's coming
off the injury, which is what his third is, This
his third ACL injury that he's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Which is not great.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And Tua comes in, he's played good football before, and
I just wonder, and I asked the question because we
had the conversation when we touched on the Deshaun Watson stuff,
and Brady made the point that listened. Kevin Stefanski's system
was never great for Deshaun Watson. So which of these
two would be a better fit for Kevin Stefanskis system
(29:55):
As training camp approaches and they get ready for this
next season.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm going to say right now, first and foremost, I'm
gonna say I like what Matt Ryan had to say.
He was truthful, he was honest, He was up front
about the scenario. And you don't really know where Michael
Pennix is going to be based off of what he's saying.
Health Wise, Kevin Stefanski right coach in terms of being
(30:25):
able to make things work with a quarterback situation. We
saw how he developed Baker Mayfield. We saw what happened
with Joe Flacco. They were able to have levels of success.
You got one of the best offensive weapons in your
backfield and Bijon Robinson. It's a great scenario and a
great situation to walk into, and I think you're correct
(30:49):
in the assumption and the assessment that too is going
to be the starter as we get going. Just from
the simple standpoint of it just doesn't sound like Mike
Penix is where he needs to be yet health wise.
That would be my only maybe point of saying that
that's why Toua comes in as the starter. I mean,
(31:11):
Michael Pennix, I don't know that he has done the
best job of establishing that he is the starter for
this Atlanta Falcons team. But nonetheless, I think it's more
so based off of what his perceived health is at
the moment versus anything other than that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I mean, his biggest issue is his injury history.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And if you've been in the NFL for two years
and you've had issues with injuries, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Like there's really no.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Long term reassurance that you can be a franchise quarterback
for the long haul because unfortunately he hasn't been able
to stay healthy and in the past that's been an issue.
So as an organization, how can you really make a
big financial commitment to him? And ultimately, if you really
think about why Matt Ryan is in the position that
(32:05):
he's in. It's in large part because of the prior
decisions made by Terry Fondo to take Cousins, who is
coming off in Achilles, to then draft Penix, who had
this litany of injuries, and now they find themselves in
the position where Terry Fono's not there anymore. My Kirk
Cousins isn't there anymore, and Michael Pennocks most likely, you know,
(32:27):
even despite coming from this injury, he might play a
little bit this year. But I first see this thing
being more of their position themselves to take a quarterback
in next.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Year's draft, and there is a bunch of them. I'll
keep saying it because it's the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
And it'll be interesting to see, you know, where this
direction goes. But they'll be in striking distance to take
a quarterback next year's draft, and I think they'll start
over them.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Better fit for Stefanski system to or Penix. Come on,
Braden Tequi.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
In I mean, the problem the problem is is both
I would say Tua although you know, because he's operated
a little bit more under center in particularly in the NFL,
whereas with Pennix, I mean they adapted to him last
year like they put in more pistol because.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That's what he felt comfortable doing. He wants to be
in a shotgun.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
He doesn't want to be under center, and it only
makes a little tougher obviously moving if you're coming off
of a you know again, another injury, another.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
A cl So that's why I look at it and
just say, all.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Right, like here we are, we're you know, trying to
figure trying to figure this out, but you're almost kind
of kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I mean, I'll take Tua, who is going to be
the guy, and I think he has a bounce back here.
He's got some weapons and things to work with there.
I think Atlanta is going to be vastly improved.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Here's what Here's where the conversation to me would have
needed or needs to go at some point. How bad
is this pick for Atlanta? If Michael Pennix doesn't prove
out and isn't the one over to a like I
would feel like Tua isn't an insurance policy to Michael
(34:13):
Penicks being the starter. And if that's not the case,
then don't you have to look at them taking him
where they did in the draft as a horrible, horrible
decision to have made. Yeah. Probably, I mean that's to me,
that's the bigger conversation. You wasted a pick on a
player that could be potentially making your team much much
(34:38):
better than what it even is now.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean, and this is not to be disrespectful, but
if you would have told Terry font No the day
they made the decision to draft Michael Pennix junior. By
the way, Terry, in two years from now, you're going
to be next to LeVar doing Draft Night Live. Oh
that's cold, man, I'm just saying that might be an
indication that things didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's cold.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm just saying it did not work out.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I mean, people are just really close with Jay and
like working with Jay, and I think that when guys
do the show, they're really just doing the show because
they're trying to get reps. You know.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Hey, by the way, but you're right, so you what
You're right?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Though?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
So can I can I just ask you this when
you're because you're stuck working with me every day and
it's just slappy central. When you work with an actual
professional like Jenny Taft, like, doesn't it open your eyes
to all the flaws that I have as a host.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, first of all, I run a show, and I've
done this show when Brady has run this show. So
I think that the cool thing about it is as
all three of us could do what you do, like
we choose to allow for this to be the way
that it is, just so everybody's clear, like because you are,
because you are for yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Jonas does a great job at it, and I could
not do what he does.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, I'll speak, I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I thought you did an excellent job when you were
were doing the lead for the show. I do it
every Saturday. I do the show, so you know, I
get really good reps. Yeah, I do. I'm pretty cool
at at lead in the show. You are really good,
though I have said you are the Jenny Taft. Jenny
is a dope. She's she's super dope with what she does.
(36:19):
Like I think that she's she has done really really well.
Stone did it the years before she came in. She's
done it the last two years.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
He's a bowling guy now.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, I think they both have done excellent jobs. I
think it's a really fun time. This year was really
fun because it went way quicker, which made it so
much better.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He takes two minutes off the clock.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Man, things change, Yeah, But I mean having the chair
you know, be different for the GM by year. I
think it's been pretty cool because you get an opportunity
to like meet guys like I didn't know who font
knew was before before that you know that evening and
you get a chance to talk to them. But yeah,
I mean it's a it's a it's a good show.
(37:02):
But but again, I think I think the bigger conversation
has to be that you have a Sam Darnald situation
brewing with Michael Pinnix, and can can Michael Pinnix be
a Sam Darnald at at some point in his career,
like big draft slot, you know, hasn't stayed healthy. Now
(37:25):
he has multiple injuries from college, now he has multiple
injuries in the pros. Is you know three and six
record as a starter, Like it's just it's just it's
a I think that's the bigger conversation here is Pinnis
needs to prove out and and it's not for any
other reason, then you use the high draft pick on
him at that position.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
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Speaker 1 (38:38):
You do drave the show really well, though, what's that
you do? Drave the show really well, be super talented. Yeah,
some days are better than others. You're super talent, thanks man.
And anybody who can do a show bat themselves weekly
is pretty that's pretty impressive. Be able to talk to
yourself for two hours.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yes, grad ass, I got no one else to talk to,
so why not used to it?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's also different.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
It's also the only two hours I get to speak
English in my house, so that's so good. Jalen Brown
was was on his Twitch feed and complaining about Joel
Embiid and sort of called out the issue he has
with today's NBA. Yeah, yeah, the there's some Uh, I
(39:22):
promise you he did. Jalen Brown did. I wouldn't tell
a lie like that on this show.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I refuse.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
We don't have the sound of it, though.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, I listened. I refuse to tell any lies on
this show.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What did he say?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I thought I was just cut five or five or
six months?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't see it on my thing?
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, well anyways, well anyways, Jalen Brown basically called out
Joel Embiid said he's a flopper.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Uh he said everybody knows it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Uh, this is sort of uh you know where he's
he's at with the NBA and that the flopping in
the NBA is a problem, and look, I would agree
with him in that regard. I'd also agree with him
in this the Celtics missing that many shots is also
a problem.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Okay, yeah, not sitting at home right now is a problem.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I could just like, Yeah, the flopping is an issue,
but also bad shooting because everybody thinks they're Steph Curry
and the Warriors, I would say, is maybe more of
a problem than the flopping.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The flopping's always been there.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
If a lot of devots used to flop back in
the day, everybody flops. But the bad shooting, I think
is really what a lot of people look at and go, man,
this is just I mean, it's basically just a brickfast
and it makes it makes the league unwatchable as opposed
to flopping, which has always been there.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
It makes it unwatchable because of the style of which
if it is a bad shooting night, it's tough and
there's a There was a string of plays in the
next Sixers game when I was watching with my girls
and we're kind of talking about just watching them to
handle the basketball, but they probably went, you know, shot shots, shots,
shot back and forth, and then then you go cold
for a while and you're like, all right, this kind
of stinks to watch. There's not as much of an
(41:04):
in and out game, so that that I think plays
as much of a role as anything. Yeah, well there's
been as you said, there's been flopping around for a while.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I mean, LeVar used to flop.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Back in the day. Oh yeah, hey, they teach you
how to flop.
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So there's.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Apparently some level of concern, or at least that's what
the report says. And who knows if this is this
is one hundred percent accurate or even fifty percent accurate.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Who's reporting it all right?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Jerry Dulik of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. He is saying
that the Steelers patients with Aaron Rodgers could be wearing
thin quote after watching two of their effected deadlines come
and go and insisting this isn't the same situation as
last year. The Steelers might not be so understanding. If
(02:08):
this drags on for two more weeks, If Rogers hasn't
given them a decision by the start of organized team
activities on May eighteenth, their latest deadline, their patients will
start to turn into frustration and maybe something more. The
Steelers had some measure of expectation that Rogers might return
by the start of the NFL combine at the end
of February. Then, based on their conversations with them, they
(02:29):
had a realistic expectation a decision would come by the
start of the NFL Draft. But apparently this is not
about money. That isn't caught up in any of this
stuff here. They were just under the impression that they
would have an answer, at least according to this report
by now, and they've gotten none. So now we've got
the two week deadline out there, which all this means
(02:50):
is that as far as this show goes, Brady Quinn's
going to win the bet. We'll get an answer on
Aaron Rodgers or point wait, hold on, hold on, when
he signs? We said when he signs, Well, he said
June first, And if this you know, reporting is correct,
that would put it closer to June first than our pick.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know that any
of us are going to win. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What do you mean we said closest to it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, you don't think he's gonna sign that's correct, Okay,
I think it's I think this is like all right.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
So well, first off, I thought that we made it
the decision, not about just necessarily signing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, Well, well then that's that's a little different. If
it's if it's the decision altogether, that's it's coming, it's
it's it's quickly winding down. Like Jerry now du lak
Is is a very very well respected reporter for the state.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's what. That's why I was like, who's saying that?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Oh, okay, Well, and he's right. I mean, if he's
saying it, that means that somebody is in the organization
is letting him know that that like we we're not
we're not whipped it. So what that you know, you
gotta believe that that's an indicator once that type of
speculation happens. If if Aaron Rodgers has any intentions of
(04:13):
coming back, then he needs to come back now. He
needs to make his intentions known. Now. This isn't the
good will that you had when you were in in
Green Bay. This is a very different situation. So and
they drafted, they drafted a QB. I just and they
already have too, which I mean, you know, you could
(04:33):
call that whatever you want to call it, but I
just I think that they're if he's going to if
he's going to come back, so too huge point or
his prediction if he's going to come back. I get
the feeling that it's a now or never situation.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I wonder, and this is just speculation.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
If he feels like once he gives him that, hey
I'm back that, then you're on the clock and and
everything they one from you are going to ask from you,
that's that starts. And he knows that, you know, like
right now, if he keeps kind of pushing this off,
but in his mind has the intentions of being there
June one, being there for the mandatory mini camp. He
(05:15):
knows that he can like spend this last portion of
his off season, his free time the way he wants
to without feeling that stress, feeling that obligation, or having
to field those calls of hey, you're.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Gonna come in? What are you gonna come in?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Like We've got this plan for you like this, this, this, this,
and it's like, look man, like I'm on my own
time when I want to come in, I'm going to
come in. I've done this long enough. I know how
to prepare my body. I know what all goes into this.
I was there with you guys last year. I know
it's a new coach, but I know his system. I
was with him a long time, so I wonder if
there's an element of that to a play where he's
(05:49):
just pushing this off as long as he has to. Again,
like if you go back to the person he who
influenced him the most in Brett Favre, didn't Brett have
that like farm or whatever, the big property he used
to take care of Dad and was it Mississippi? And
he would go there and just disconnect from the world,
(06:09):
and no one really knew what his intentions were, what
his plans were, And so he decided to come back,
and by the way that still worked out, all was forgiven,
team still accepted it, everything else.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
So I understand the impatience, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Sure there's a thought that if we start putting out stuff,
maybe it puts more pressure on him to make a decision,
But that's not how he operates. That's not gonna persuade
him or motivate him to make a decision. Sooner, I
think he knows what decision he's going to make, and
(06:44):
I think he's going to come back for one more
run at it and I think Pittsburgh's going to be
that place.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
What's interesting to me is like I think Florio or
someone floated the idea of the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I don't see that. I don't know what you guys think,
but I.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Don't that he's basically Floria's trying to connect the dots
to where You've got Mike laflor who was with the
Rams and they were interested in Rogers last year, brother
of Matt Lafleur, who coached Rogers for years. There's also
Nathaniel Hackett, who's the offensive coordinator there, and obviously we
know the relationship between those two, and they don't seem
to have a clear starter at quarterback. Yeah, I just
(07:23):
I don't think that there's anybody other than Pittsburgh that
makes sense. And they can get as impatient as they want,
but they sort of set this in motion. They've put
themselves in this spot to where they're relying on the
word and commitment from a guy who's not ready to
give his word and commitment, and so they can get
impatient all they want, if anything like when this sort
(07:45):
of one of the things he hated about the Jets
was all the leaks, all the stuff in the media,
all the speculation, all the stuff that came out there
of anything, this would almost to me do the opposite
instead of motivating him to come back, almost be like,
why is this stuff going public? Who in the organization's
talking to Jerry Dulik that would have this information? What
(08:06):
is going on here? Ultimately, I think he Pittsburgh is
the only option. I think that's where he ends up.
But you know, to see this stuff come out, it
clearly had to come from somebody within the organization.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
When things like this happened, once you can get through it.
This happened last year. There were conversations Mike Tomlin continued
to have the clear up conversations of what they were
going to do with Aaron Rodgers. This is not a
team that had great success with Aaron Rodgers last year.
(08:40):
In fact, to the tune of Mike Tomlin stepping away
from the team as they coached. So this is a
franchise that needs to regroup and put together what they're
going to do. You bring in your new coach. That
new coach, while he does have familiarity with Aaron Rodgers,
(09:01):
they have worked together and they call him the quarterback Whisperer.
Who helped develop and was a major part of Aaron
Rodgers development when he came into the league. But this
is not a great career move by Mike McCarthy in
a last opportunity to be a head coach. You can't
(09:22):
be wasting time with the same type of drama that
you dealt with with him in Green Bay. Can't do it.
And I think that that's an added element to this conversation,
is that there's a familiarity to this situation from a
prior relationship, a prior stop between the two of them.
(09:45):
I just don't think it's a good look. You gotta
believe that the Steelers are fully aware of it, and
that's why they placed the tender on them. They're fully
aware of what they're thinking. I feel like when they
placed the tender on them, it was like, we're moving on.
We're moving on, and if you're going to come in,
then we can rethink it from there. But as far
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as I'm concerned, we're not playing this type of game.
You got until this time to come in. And yes,
he is probably doing what you said, QUI probably is
trying to keep his options open, have his free time,
have his spare time because once he says he's coming back,
he's got to do it. But that's what they want.
So is he in position to be able to dictate that?
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Are the Steelers going to allow for him to dictate that?
I think by what they're releasing to the media, they
are slowly letting him know that, yeah, we're we're not
playing that game with you. So I don't know how
that works in terms of if he's not reporting and
he's not deciding to play, I guess it's like, look,
you're gonna play for the Steelers or you're not. And
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if you're not going to play for the Steelers and
you're you are trying to go to the Cardinals or
somewhere else, then we're gonna get compensated for moving on.
Like I kind of feel like that's where it kind
of gives me. We were moving on from Aaron Rodgers vibes.
That's what gives me.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Wouldn't it be, well, hold on.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Real quick, are you moving on from Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I mean, I've never been with Aaron Rodgers to move
on from.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Him, So if he so, no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I mean, you're a hinser the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I wasn't with him when he came to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So if the Steelers had this, I'm with the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
If they were, if they're now at the point to
where they're like, man, we don't care, we're moving on.
Why didn't you just do that a couple of months ago?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Why didn't Aaron Rodgers just have like, let's be clear,
why didn't you just have the conversation, I don't want
to be around. I want to play, and I want
to come back and I want to play, but I
don't want to be on your clock until it's time
to be on the clock. Can we can we be
okay with that? So the fact that they don't feel
that type of level of confidence in him where they
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would take the approach they're taking, now, that's a lack
of commune the case.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, I would also say, if you're the Steelers, knowing
the situation you're in, because if he comes back, he's
gonna come back for one year. If you're the Steelers,
why wouldn't you have just said if we can get
a clear answer, then we're good. But if it's an
I don't know, then to us that's a no. We
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got to move on and we've got to go in
a different direction, because I just don't I think this
may have been sort of mismanaged. If this ultimately ends
up in Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers not coming together on
a deal, then I think there's gonna be some second
guessing as to if this was how this was going
to play out. Why didn't you guys just step up
and make the call early in the office.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Was he good enough last year for this to be
that big of a conversation? His last two seasons have
not been impressive enough, Like you're doing it base like
the whole Deshaun Watson conversation, Like you're basing it off
of the potential of what the guy was, not what
he is.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, but for fifteen million, buff bad.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's a lot of money for one, even if it's
low key, like low on the low end of the
scale obviously, but you're gonna get what you paid for. Like,
if your offering fifteen million bucks, then what do you
get ten million last year? And you got it and
you got a damn good year ten million that level
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from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Did they even make the playoffs? Did they make the playoffs? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
They did?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Kind of Okay, did they really yeah, I remember they
got wiped out by Houston.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah they did. Listen, it's you're not getting prime Aaron Rodgers. Prime.
Aaron Rodgers is gone. If you're Mike McCarthy, if I
felt like I could win immediately with Aaron Rodgers, sure
you take an aggressive approach, or you take an approach
where you're like, let Aaron do Aaron. We're gonna get
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Aaron and everything's gonna be okay. These things that are
going on right now don't happen. If you had that
confidence in Aaron Rogers and now you got Will Howard,
you got Drew Aller, why aren't you just saying, you
know what, we got two of the better quarterbacks out
of out of the best conference in college football right now,
and there's the potential that we could develop and find
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the gym in one of these two guys. Why not
why not just turn and shift your attention to these
younger guys. I would feel like at this point that
would be a.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
More feasible and better option for the Steelers to start
building towards the future versus trying to be a one
and done scenario with a guy that apparently is going
to do things the way he wants to do them,
and he's going to come when he wants to pause.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I mean, he's gonna he's going to show up when
he wants to show up.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm still doing that pause thing.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, it did sound kind of sus That's how I felt,
But you're right, Brady, it was a really good point.
He's going he's going to show up when he's I
need to show up, and I just don't know that
that's worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
By the way, you mentioned Will Howard and Drew Aller.
Do you hear what Ben Roethlisberger had to say about
what he said? You know, he didn't get a lot
to watch a lot of Penn State games, but just
in the tape that he watched and Drew Aller, nothing
really jumped off the page to him, but it did
with Will Howard.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So how's that land?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I mean will matter either?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Will Will Howard went on to win a national championship.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
So I will say this, if Big Ben goes and
watches them both throw, he's gonna be more impressed with
Drew Allers. He will like that dude's got a cannon
and he can frip that thing, and it's it's different.
I think the interesting storyline between both these two just
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because that's.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Where we're here right now. Is Will Howard was a
PA kid.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
He was he didn't get recruited by Penn State morning
obviously ends up finding his way to Ohio State to
then beat Penn State, and that's part of, you know,
his story. And then Drew Allen was an Ohio kid,
didn't great recruited really by Highes State, goes to Penn State,
and so that's kind of the other side of the
story with all this.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So it's it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
A wild So who's more Pittsburgh. I I think I
gotta go with the man. I gotta go with the PA. Well,
he's not, he'd say Will Howard. I don't think he's
not from West pr Yeah. Yeah, I think he's actually
from East PA. Yeah right, is he closer to Philly. Yeah,
that's not a that's that's a total antithesis.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Actually, Okay, well again, and I think.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
We're going to take Drew as we will take Drew Allerc.
We're not.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I've said this, and like when I first was watching
Drew Allery, he kind of reminded.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Me a little bit of Big Ben. Yeah, similar in size,
Big Ben.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I think was a better athlete and moves better, but
like both very strong arms, and I think I'm not
again I'm not saying try to say Drew Alis and
become big men. But I could see in the right
system with Mike McCarthy, who has done really well coaching
young quarterback and developing young quarterbacks, I could see him
progressing and becoming the quarterback that I think. And LaVar
(17:07):
you talked about this like you know better than I,
and once you said that, I was like, that makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It just never really.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Transformed into like what I thought he was going to
be by the end of his time at Penn State.
But he had changes of coordinators and the offense never
really felt like it meshed with what it should have been.
Like honestly, they should have been running what they were
with Kerry Collins back in the day, like under center,
I back formation like your base personnel, but right like
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with that bat deal well the.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Backfield times and tight end.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
And lines like that's what you had, so play to
that and then adjust off of that the other wrinkles
it and it never really was that during his time there.
So maybe you're right, Maybe it was James Franklin kind
of micromanaging all of it. The good thing is he
doesn't worry about that now. I mean, think about the
personnel they've got there. They've they've got receivers. But you
got those two big ass tight ends. Yes, and they
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right ends.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm the biggest, the largest, he's massive.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
I would try to get that guy like ten touches
a game just to beat down on the other team. Like,
I don't care, Lavo, I don't care how big you are.
When you see a tight end who's almost what three
hundred pounds, come on, man, like you don't want to
see him in space down now.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Hey, I'm Drew Aler. I got them big old tight ends.
I'm going to throw it to them. Forget about Amaron Rogers.
We got it the bird. Let's do it with Pittsburgh Steelers.
We don't need them. Get rid of them. You got
the tender on it, and they're the bidgies, the largest.
Come on, come on, Okay, there's my freestyle for the week.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
By the way, Brady Brady made the point mate. State
did have a lot of guys drafted. Hey, bro, man,
our team was loaded. Bro, that's gotta be easily in
the history of our school. The biggest disappointment of a season.
It's not it's not to the I think there was
a lot of people when they saw the number of
Ohio State defensive players that got drafted and just the
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combined results, and they're looking around going what happened? Like why,
I just you see the number of Penn State guys
that got drafted and you look at you go, well,
what happened?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Bro? And the way they're talking about Vega, They're talking
like Vega might be the best drafted old lineman in
this year's draft, and they wouldn't be wrong in that assessment.
He's up there. Then you got two again, the only
comparable And I would say, and I said it going
into that Notre Dame game the year before the year prior,
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I'm taking Penn State's duo of running backs over Notre Dames.
I am, and and yes I'm biased, but I also
felt like at that point in time, I'm not so
sure they're not the better duo this year either. My god,
I'm just being round. I know, like I know what
I know. I know. Did you look at their body
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of work?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh, that sounds like a wager. You look at their
body of work better better years.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Is the difference maker or the difference maker though he's
the man, he's the factor back. But let me tell
you something, Nick Singleton is a wild card player. He's
a wild card player if you ask me and k
Tron Island will be in. In theory, he will be
the better running back, most productive running back, mark my words.
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He'll be the most productive running back out of all
four of them, out of all four of them this
upcoming year, out of all four career career career.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It could be a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, we need results here, we need to be able
to make a wager on this somehow.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I just.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Hey, you know, I said, I hear you type and
go ahead. Who got the better stats coming out of college?
What running backs? I have the better stats?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well, they didn't have better stats than Jeremiah Love this year.
Like what are you basing that off of?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't know, Okay, who had better stats? What are
the stats they didn't have?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
First off, they didn't have better stats than Jeremiah Love
this year, So there's really no argument, Like.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
That's like, what are you trying to say? Career stats?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yes, you had two of those guys who were more
impactful yards per carry?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
What stats you want to use?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I mean, you got two guys going the first round.
How is this even a conversation? This might be the
worst take you've ever had. You say that, like you
literally watched two guys going at first round. At the
running back space, the NFL has spoken, and yet you're
standing on this hill alone like General Custard about ready
to be a sale Mashetti.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yes, I'll take that all right. So what's the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Bet better rookie sea Levar's combination versus Brady's combination rookie season?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What's the best shirt?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Bet you gotta wear a uh the other team's paraphernalia
posts on social media?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, what about you wear a LeVar eleven and he
wears around ten?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
No, that's corny.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
What do you mean I'll wear I'll wear Jeremiah Love
jersey or shirt. I'll wear a Jeremiah Love shirt if
he has the best But I think he is going
to have the best year immediately. But we're talking about
the duo combined between the two. I bet you, I
bet you this. I bet you both Penn State running
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backs play more than both Notre Dame running backs. Really
more snaps? What do you mean if I say more snaps?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I was going to start him.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I'll say more snaps, Like you're gonna say that like, oh,
he's going to do it, Seattle's going to start Like
that does nothing for me? Like you're not gonna like
like try to talk me out of what I'm feeling.
I mean, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Love and Price?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You're both gonna shown his knock says to me with
a loud voice, what you made gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Start saying more? So I'm supposed to like I'm supposed
to jump out it away. I'm just gonna have two
starters for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Who's gonna start out running back for Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I don't know who's the uh who do they have?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Pollard? He's going to start, You're gonna start?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Can I just answer the question that LeVar asked initially?
All right, Obviously Jeremiah Love started Jendarium. Price was a backup,
so those stats are gonna be a little bit skewed.
But Jeremiah Love out rushed both k Tron Allen and
Nicholas Singleton in.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The past two years.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
About how much again, uh, let's see by how much
he got two years ago he rushed more than single
in by one hundred yards I think, and K tron
By it was closer than that. Now this past season
again rushed more than them, maybe by seventy. This also
does include does not include receiving, which again unfortunately does
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not go in the favor of either running back from
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But Love outrushed both the past two years and obviously
had more yards from scrimmage as well.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I say, K tron Allen will be starting for the
Commanders and we'll have the better year out of all
of the backs we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
All Right, I'll take my two Notre Dame running backs again,
who the NFL shows in the first round again, that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Will be better than both your Penn State running backs.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I wouldn't expect you to do anything else other than that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I think a blind man who's listening to this conversation
would also agree with me. That's never seen any of
the running backs play would probably just be like, yeah,
I like the two guys they took.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
In the freak, Sure you ate this.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
They're both gonna start unless they're gonna get injured, Like
they're gonna end up rushing and having more production.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Save Brady Quinn saying all of these things because you're
going to eat these words this time next year, You're
going to eat these words. That's you, and it's gonna
be and it's going to be good. It's going to
be good.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
God, you're not even owning up to what you said
this past year.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Like you just tried to say that they rushed.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
More than Jeremiah Love, and they did say that they
rushed more. I said that you said earlier this year
you thought they were the better, and they weren't there
even in the biggest game Penn States played since God,
I don't know how long they didn't show out the
way Jeremiah Love did to beat them to go to
the national championship. There is zero argument to be made.
It's just completely biased.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Again, just like just like Jonas, you can't raise job
voices at me and get me to be like, yeah,
you're right. I would say say I'm wrong when I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Okay, but I'm over forty all right, and I'm still working,
I'm still competing, but my energy is dropping.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Tell us why waits.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Start to stick?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Tell us what to discipline problem, LeVar, It's it's a bilegial'
getting old.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
It doesn't mean you have to accept it or I
have to accept it.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
True, But look, I take M Drive every day, drive
men dot Com, M Drive for men who show up.
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Speaker 3 (27:28):
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You know who's gonna have a I'd love to hear
his pick. Pete Prisco on the little bet you guys
have Notre Dame versus Penn State running backs next year.
(27:48):
Wonder which way Prisco's sale is gonna blow? I could
cure less he breaks all these down. No, he's a
raft guru.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm a stand on it.
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in about twelve minutes from now. Right now, you're going
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to hear Matt Ryan who he's running the show there
in Atlanta, and he is the guy for the Atlanta
Falcons making decisions. He was on with the fan in
Atlanta yesterday talking about Michael Pennix Junior's rehab and also
what that looks like for him next year when it
comes to the quarterback situation.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
I think the biggest thing is you just don't know
where Michael's going to be at. You know, he's doing
a great job. I mean he since I took the
job back in January, at the beginning of January. I mean,
he's been in there doing rehab, working with our rehab guy,
Nick Karpino, who's done a great job with him. You know,
Jake File, the athletic training staff. Those guys have done
a great job. But you got to give the player credit.
(29:02):
Mike has been he's been on it and you know,
he looks good. He's done a lot of stuff for
us on the field. As far as expectations, we don't
really know what to expect at the beginning of training camp.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So this is to his gig right, He's going to
be the start in Atlanta because I look at it
and I go the people that you know wanted Michael
Pennix Junior there that that regime is gone. He's coming
off the injury, which is what his third is, This
his third ACL injury that he's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Which is not great.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
And Tua comes in, he's played good football before, and
I just wonder, and I asked the question because we
had the conversation when we touched on the Deshaun Watson stuff,
and Brady made the point that listened. Kevin Stefanski's system
was never great for Deshaun Watson. So which of these
two would be a better fit for Kevin Stefanskis system
(29:55):
As training camp approaches and they get ready for this
next season.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I'm going to say right now, first and foremost, I'm
gonna say I like what Matt Ryan had to say.
He was truthful, he was honest, He was up front
about the scenario. And you don't really know where Michael
Pennix is going to be based off of what he's saying.
Health Wise, Kevin Stefanski right coach in terms of being
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able to make things work with a quarterback situation. We
saw how he developed Baker Mayfield. We saw what happened
with Joe Flacco. They were able to have levels of success.
You got one of the best offensive weapons in your
backfield and Bijon Robinson. It's a great scenario and a
great situation to walk into, and I think you're correct
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in the assumption and the assessment that too is going
to be the starter as we get going. Just from
the simple standpoint of it just doesn't sound like Mike
Penix is where he needs to be yet health wise.
That would be my only maybe point of saying that
that's why Toua comes in as the starter. I mean,
(31:11):
Michael Pennix, I don't know that he has done the
best job of establishing that he is the starter for
this Atlanta Falcons team. But nonetheless, I think it's more
so based off of what his perceived health is at
the moment versus anything other than that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I mean, his biggest issue is his injury history.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
And if you've been in the NFL for two years
and you've had issues with injuries, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Like there's really no.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Long term reassurance that you can be a franchise quarterback
for the long haul because unfortunately he hasn't been able
to stay healthy and in the past that's been an issue.
So as an organization, how can you really make a
big financial commitment to him? And ultimately, if you really
think about why Matt Ryan is in the position that
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he's in. It's in large part because of the prior
decisions made by Terry Fondo to take Cousins, who is
coming off in Achilles, to then draft Penix, who had
this litany of injuries, and now they find themselves in
the position where Terry Fono's not there anymore. My Kirk
Cousins isn't there anymore, and Michael Pennocks most likely, you know,
(32:27):
even despite coming from this injury, he might play a
little bit this year. But I first see this thing
being more of their position themselves to take a quarterback
in next.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Year's draft, and there is a bunch of them. I'll
keep saying it because it's the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
And it'll be interesting to see, you know, where this
direction goes. But they'll be in striking distance to take
a quarterback next year's draft, and I think they'll start
over them.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Better fit for Stefanski system to or Penix. Come on,
Braden Tequi.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
In I mean, the problem the problem is is both
I would say Tua although you know, because he's operated
a little bit more under center in particularly in the NFL,
whereas with Pennix, I mean they adapted to him last
year like they put in more pistol because.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That's what he felt comfortable doing. He wants to be
in a shotgun.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
He doesn't want to be under center, and it only
makes a little tougher obviously moving if you're coming off
of a you know again, another injury, another.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
A cl So that's why I look at it and
just say, all.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Right, like here we are, we're you know, trying to
figure trying to figure this out, but you're almost kind
of kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I mean, I'll take Tua, who is going to be
the guy, and I think he has a bounce back here.
He's got some weapons and things to work with there.
I think Atlanta is going to be vastly improved.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Here's what Here's where the conversation to me would have
needed or needs to go at some point. How bad
is this pick for Atlanta? If Michael Pennix doesn't prove
out and isn't the one over to a like I
would feel like Tua isn't an insurance policy to Michael
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Penicks being the starter. And if that's not the case,
then don't you have to look at them taking him
where they did in the draft as a horrible, horrible
decision to have made. Yeah. Probably, I mean that's to me,
that's the bigger conversation. You wasted a pick on a
player that could be potentially making your team much much
(34:38):
better than what it even is now.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean, and this is not to be disrespectful, but
if you would have told Terry font No the day
they made the decision to draft Michael Pennix junior. By
the way, Terry, in two years from now, you're going
to be next to LeVar doing Draft Night Live. Oh
that's cold, man, I'm just saying that might be an
indication that things didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's cold.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm just saying it did not work out.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I mean, people are just really close with Jay and
like working with Jay, and I think that when guys
do the show, they're really just doing the show because
they're trying to get reps. You know.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Hey, by the way, but you're right, so you what
You're right?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Though?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
So can I can I just ask you this when
you're because you're stuck working with me every day and
it's just slappy central. When you work with an actual
professional like Jenny Taft, like, doesn't it open your eyes
to all the flaws that I have as a host.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, first of all, I run a show, and I've
done this show when Brady has run this show. So
I think that the cool thing about it is as
all three of us could do what you do, like
we choose to allow for this to be the way
that it is, just so everybody's clear, like because you are,
because you are for yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Jonas does a great job at it, and I could
not do what he does.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, I'll speak, I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I thought you did an excellent job when you were
were doing the lead for the show. I do it
every Saturday. I do the show, so you know, I
get really good reps. Yeah, I do. I'm pretty cool
at at lead in the show. You are really good,
though I have said you are the Jenny Taft. Jenny
is a dope. She's she's super dope with what she does.
(36:19):
Like I think that she's she has done really really well.
Stone did it the years before she came in. She's
done it the last two years.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
He's a bowling guy now.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, I think they both have done excellent jobs. I
think it's a really fun time. This year was really
fun because it went way quicker, which made it so
much better.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He takes two minutes off the clock.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Man, things change, Yeah, But I mean having the chair
you know, be different for the GM by year. I
think it's been pretty cool because you get an opportunity
to like meet guys like I didn't know who font
knew was before before that you know that evening and
you get a chance to talk to them. But yeah,
I mean it's a it's a it's a good show.
(37:02):
But but again, I think I think the bigger conversation
has to be that you have a Sam Darnald situation
brewing with Michael Pinnix, and can can Michael Pinnix be
a Sam Darnald at at some point in his career,
like big draft slot, you know, hasn't stayed healthy. Now
(37:25):
he has multiple injuries from college, now he has multiple
injuries in the pros. Is you know three and six
record as a starter, Like it's just it's just it's
a I think that's the bigger conversation here is Pinnis
needs to prove out and and it's not for any
other reason, then you use the high draft pick on
him at that position.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe Here on
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
Coming up next, somebody complaining about the NBA? What else
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Speaker 8 (37:55):
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Speaker 3 (38:10):
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LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We
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Speaker 1 (38:38):
You do drave the show really well, though, what's that
you do? Drave the show really well, be super talented. Yeah,
some days are better than others. You're super talent, thanks man.
And anybody who can do a show bat themselves weekly
is pretty that's pretty impressive. Be able to talk to
yourself for two hours.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yes, grad ass, I got no one else to talk to,
so why not used to it?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's also different.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
It's also the only two hours I get to speak
English in my house, so that's so good. Jalen Brown
was was on his Twitch feed and complaining about Joel
Embiid and sort of called out the issue he has
with today's NBA. Yeah, yeah, the there's some Uh, I
(39:22):
promise you he did. Jalen Brown did. I wouldn't tell
a lie like that on this show.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I refuse.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
We don't have the sound of it, though.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, I listened. I refuse to tell any lies on
this show.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
What did he say?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I thought I was just cut five or five or
six months?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I don't see it on my thing?
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, well anyways, well anyways, Jalen Brown basically called out
Joel Embiid said he's a flopper.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Uh he said everybody knows it.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Uh, this is sort of uh you know where he's
he's at with the NBA and that the flopping in
the NBA is a problem, and look, I would agree
with him in that regard. I'd also agree with him
in this the Celtics missing that many shots is also
a problem.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Okay, yeah, not sitting at home right now is a problem.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I could just like, Yeah, the flopping is an issue,
but also bad shooting because everybody thinks they're Steph Curry
and the Warriors, I would say, is maybe more of
a problem than the flopping.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The flopping's always been there.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
If a lot of devots used to flop back in
the day, everybody flops. But the bad shooting, I think
is really what a lot of people look at and go, man,
this is just I mean, it's basically just a brickfast
and it makes it makes the league unwatchable as opposed
to flopping, which has always been there.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
It makes it unwatchable because of the style of which
if it is a bad shooting night, it's tough and
there's a There was a string of plays in the
next Sixers game when I was watching with my girls
and we're kind of talking about just watching them to
handle the basketball, but they probably went, you know, shot shots, shots,
shot back and forth, and then then you go cold
for a while and you're like, all right, this kind
of stinks to watch. There's not as much of an
(41:04):
in and out game, so that that I think plays
as much of a role as anything. Yeah, well there's
been as you said, there's been flopping around for a while.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
I mean, LeVar used to flop.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Back in the day. Oh yeah, hey, they teach you
how to flop.
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