The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington go over the Steelers seemingly wearing thin with Aaron Rodgers lack of decision. Plus, the guys talk about Matt Ryan not knowing when Michael Penix will be ready, chat with Pete Prisco, and much more!!

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Speaker 4 (01:31):
Pete. Good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Guys?

Speaker 5 (01:33):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Good morning?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Pete? What up?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Pete?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Brady?

Speaker 5 (01:38):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
How alas week?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
No? I got other things going on, Pete. I can't
be here always every day for you.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Man. I try well, I just missed you when you're
not there. Brady. You know that guy. Other guys don't
try and abuse me as much as you do.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I don't try to abuse you. I just try to
bring up topics that will make you start to be
get front long Pete Prisco, Okay, that's not hard.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
That's not hard to do.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We were talking about Rogers and like how he hasn't
made a commitment yet, Like are you getting tired of this?
Are you getting are you kind of like come on, dude,
like make a decision, let's come back, let's get this
thing going.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I think he's already made his decision. I think the Steelers, no,
he made his decision. I think he's playing.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So why don't we see reports them that they're getting
frustrated by it?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I don't know. I think look, when I was at
the league meetings, I talked to guys and they pretty
much gave me the indication they thought he was going
to play. There's no panic on draft weekend, so I
think that the indication is he's going to play. But again,
we don't know where he is personally. Is he really
being tormented by the fact that he might play or

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not play?

Speaker 6 (02:58):
You know, you don't think who's tormented by it other
than the Steelers personally, So yeah, oh he's tormented by it?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I mean it's entirely possible that he's still making the decision,
but I don't think that's the case. I think he's
actually made the decision. I think he's playing. I think
the Steelers, no, he's playing. That's just me. Nobody's told
me that, but I just from people get the indication
that there was no panic in them this offseason. None.
And normally, if you don't have your quarterback playing, you're

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going to panic, and they they did not panic now,
unless you count taking a quarterback in the third round
a panic, which I don't. I think he's playing.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Pete. What was your read on Drew Rowler?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Because we're having the discussion, Ben Roethlisberger made his thoughts
and said, look, nothing jumped out to me about Drew Rowler.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
It did with Will Howard.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Though, So if you are the Steelers and you consider
worst case scenario, Rogers doesn't come back and they've got
to choose between Drew Rowler Will Howard, you could throw
Mason Rutoff in there, what direction.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Would you go?

Speaker 5 (04:04):
I'd wait for next year. I mean, but I look,
Drew Aller had some traits. There's no question about that.
He could stand in the pocket, he can a big,
strong kid.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
He can rip.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
It looks like Flacco at times when he throws it.
But there's so much bad tape and what happened to him.
I mean, we all know that that team went in
the wrong direction. The coach got fired. Look at those
running backs. They went into the year thinking they might be,
you know, high picks, and either one of them was.
They went in the wrong direction. And so I think

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that's always something when you look at a team what
happened to those guys. It happened to guys at Clemson too.
I mean, guys went in the opposite direction. So I
think that's a concern. But there is a lot of
inconsistency and bad tape. But there's also a lot of
throws where you look at him and go oh my,
And so I think, what are you going to get
out of him? Does he get good coaching? Does Mike

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McCart he fixes bad mechanics and there is talent there.
It's just a matter of the inconsistency.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
We were talking about the Atlanta quarterback situation a little earlier, Pete,
have you given it any thought the whole Penix deal?
Is it to uh? You know, obviously Penix's health is
a concern. What do you have an opinion on a
stance on that.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, look, Penis, we don't know where he is health wise.
And here's the other part of that equation. He went
very good last year and so I think this is
a great opportunity for two to get a lot of
the reps, to get work with the first team, and
to take the job. And I think if you're looking
at it from that standpoint, look, I'm to his big
as critic I always was. I never thought he was
as good as people made him out to be. I

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didn't think Miami should have given him the contract extension,
But this is an opportunity for him to go in
there and win the job. There's going to be a
lot of snaps for him and with the first team,
and I think there's a chance he's the opening day
start no matter what happened with Michael Pennock in terms
of his health. He wasn't that good last year, and
you know this was going to be a proven year
for Michael Pennix anyway. So I think this is a

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situation for him for Tuit to go in there and
steal the job. And I do believe he's going to
be the opening day starter.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
What's the biggest unknown for you right now when you
look at the season as we kind of head into it,
is there like as a certain team player. I know
he just talked about Rogers when it not he comes back,
But is there a certain situation you're looking at saying like,
I'm most curious about this?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Well, I think c J. Stroud is one. You know
that we know what their defense is and they improved
the offensive line by getting Utledge in the first round
is going to be a mall er. I think they'll
be more physical in the run game. So it's all
about c. J. Stroud and I think you know, the
Texans are taking a wait and see approach with him.
He got the fifty year option. If you're going to

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get the long term extension, well, if he goes into
the season and plays like he did at the end
of last year, probably not. If he goes into the
season plays like he did a couple of years ago,
he will. So I think this is an enormous year
for him personally, and I think it's an enormous year
for them to get him to play in good football again.
If he does, we know what they can do on defense,
they're going to be nasty. But it's all about the

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quarterback position. So I think that's one thing. The other
one is, aren't you getting upset that the officials might
not be their brady? I mean, we're having you know,
there's the officials might be on strike. You might have
replacement officials again, and lord knows where that's going because
we know how what happened the last time they had
replacement officials. It was it was it looked. It was

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never as bad as it was portrayed, to be honest
with you, even back then talking to people in the
league office. But the one or two three major mistakes
that they had, they were magnified even more so than
the one, two, three, or four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten major mistakes that the officials have every week. I
think it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough situation.
So those are two things I'm looking at.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I've got a buddy who's actually officiating, and he's obviously
in the middle of this, and I kind of asked
him where he thinks he's at. Honestly, he goes, I
don't know. He's like, yeah, this was somewhat recent, and
he's like, I'm not sure how the whole thing's going
to shake out.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
So, yeah, does he have a job, Brady, like a
real like a you know. So that's you know how
that's tough thing. They all have careers outside of officiating
in the NFL. Would like them all to be full
time officials at some point, but they don't want to
pay him to the point where it's worth right their career,
given up their career. So that's the problem I'm hearing.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
He has a career, right, he's a former player, so
he's done well, and he's been smart with his money.
He's got some real estate investments that are you know,
kicking off revenue for him two But no, it obviously
is a portion of what he makes. I mean they
get compensated decently well now too. So yeah, I mean
it definitely will will take a hit, and that's why

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you know there's some concern about it, and there's really
no one lobbying on their behalf, you know when you
think about this whole situation, like we know that fans
are willing to endure. I mean, that's just the truth.
Like I think as a society, there's different changes that
are made and we're like this stinks, but we're still

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going to do it because we got to do it right,
like paying high prices for stuff, you know whatever else.
I mean that's kind of how the norms are. So
I feel like if the NFL feels like they can
wait this thing out and try to get these guys
for cheap or you know, what are the stipulations are
within their CBA, you know, that's that's what they'll do.
But there's definitely something go on.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
You know that, you know that the game will go on.
But we saw during COVID go look back at some
of those games, the game went on.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Nobody in the I I asked the producer one time,
I go, let's say I step off the curve get
hit by a bus before I'm calling an NFL game,
And they're like, yeah, they'll just grab someone from one
of the radio crews to come and do the game
last minute.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
It's a good feeling.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's funny to say that because there are people in
our industry that think the game will stop us something
happen to them, and and I could promise you with
one hundred certainty that it is and stopping it all.
I mean, they might have a they might have that
moment of silence for you, and then everybody goes, oh god,
he was such a great guy, Pete. Wasn't Pete Prisco
such a positive influence on the people in the NFL.

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And they'll say it for two seconds and the next
thing you know, they go back to ripping me to
shreds and the game will go on. That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Was I was gonna ask you, pet who are those
people that think the game would stop if if something
happened to him.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I knew guys in this business for years that thought that,
and believe me, they're not. They're no longer with us,
and the game still goes on. I can promise you that. Look,
you're not as important as you think you are. We're
all replaceable and the game will go on, just like
life will go on. It's just bad reality. That's your
lesson for the day.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
So what about media takes? But what about media takes
from Pete Prisco? That has to end when you're done right.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
You never know, I might be just coming into your
house as a ghost, making making these making you argue
with me. You know, I could be a ghosts Pete.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I am curious just to get your thoughts on something.
This is, you know, kind of random, but near and
dear to this show because there was a wager that
was placed earlier. And for those that are wondering at
Pete Prisco Draft Guru CBS Sports, the man you go
to when it comes to the NFL draft, But when
you look at Notre Dame running backs versus Penn State

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running backs drafted this year, obviously, Jeremiah Love Jadarian Price
both in the first round and for Penn State Nicholas
Singleton k Tron Allen in the fifth and sixth rounds.
If you were betting right now, which running back duo
would have the better rookie season, the Notre Dame duo
or the Penn State duo.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Oh, the Notre Dame duo. It's not going to be
close to close. I like Allen. I think Allen's a
good player, but I think Price is really really good.
He's in a great situation. He's going to be he
might be the rookie of the year. And then on
the other side, I think, you know, Love has all
the rip off, big run potential that you love, So

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I think it's a Notre Dame days And look, okay, LeVar,
you know, come on, give me a break. Are you serious?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
I mean it's the same thing he said, Listen, he
was dead seriously.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And then he goes who had better stats? Who had
better stats? I was like, actually, jeremih Love had better status.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
The funny thing is.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Is anybody in a better situation than Price?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yes, Kate Tron Allen? Yes?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Why is he a better situation?

Speaker 6 (12:25):
Because he's got a defensive minded coach, and much like
how they do in Seattle, they run the ball. They
like running the ball in Washington. And and by the way,
Tennessee is a isn't a horrible set up to run.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
The ball either.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
They're probably going to try to run in Tennessee, it's
been historically a running team. Listen, y'all, could y'all could
try to like shame me all y'all want, I'm a
stand on it. I think Kate Tron Allen will have
the better career than all of them down.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, but Allen's gonna have a better, better, better career.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
And I think and and and and there's and there's
the pos stability that one of them guys has a
better rookie season than the guys from from Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
That's if I had to say, if I had to
say who was going to have the best rookie season,
it would be priced. I don't think there's anything to
me that's a perfect situation. He's going to be the
starting running back. He's going to go into a team
that loves to run the ball. He's perfect for that offense.
I think he's going to be the best, best of
them all. Now, if Allen and this is the Is
he gonna win the job? Yes, no matter, he's gonna. Okay,

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so the guys that they have for Shad White, Bill
Krossky Merritt, those guys are all they're done. So he's
got the job.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
I don't know about done anything, because there's always going
to be a rotation. Kron Allen is is the way.
By the way, you guys are talking, y'all really haven't
watched him play?

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Then, No, I like him. I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
He's got it.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
He's easily going to be the best inside tackle running back.
He might he might challenge for in the league at
some point. Oh my god, in side like tackle running back.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
He's not better than either that. I like him. He's
not better than either of another.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Okay, just just make sure we have eight all of
these things. I'll eat it. If I'm wrong. I'm wrong,
I have no problem with that.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be
a good player. But I do think that this best
situation is Pricing is gonna have a big year and
then Love has the home run speed. And by the way,
I'm one of the guys that wasn't didn't think love
was worth taking in that spot. I'll be honest with you.
And so I'm would I would I rather take a
running back at three? No? Or would I rather draft

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it back like where the where the Commanders drafted Alan? Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (14:37):
So I get it, But I don't think that's all.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And I think he's going to be special.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Why did he last? Let me just out of curiosity?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Why did he last so long in the draft.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah, that team had a rough time, and and listen,
we had one first round here, we did, but at
that position, you know, it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So they went with the hotter team, the hotter guy.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
When the coach got fired, did you want to fire
I'm not in that.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I'm not in that. I will say this.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
I will say this, I will I will say this
that the team was was mismanaged. The teams were gearing
up and loading up for the run because they did
not trust the passing game. And they were right. And
that that impacted everybody, impacted Drew Aller, it impacted the.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Running backs transferred.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
In that they did, and that's what made well, that's
why he probably lost his job.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Brought in you brought in Hudson and you brought in
the kid from Troy.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
It's either the players or the coach. So something's not right.
So you got to blame one of the others.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Those players, those players are too good. It was the
coach's fault. I'm in media, I'm Ana Dode, I'm always
and I'm a you know, I'm a James Franklin fan.
But it was I think it was very mismanaged and
the and the players lost. They lost the belief and
what coach Franklin was doing. That's what I believe.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You got your headline today, fellas LaVar Arrington. Franklin should
have been fired.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Well done, Pete, well done. Wait to get some headline.
I've already said that. I felt like it was mismanaged,
that that team was too talented.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
I think he should be fired. He should have been fired.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Then let's let's just stay hot with this whole situation.
Does anything happen with a Vrabel in New England?

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Oh? Oh, good question.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
I mean I don't think so. Because he went to
a super Bowl last year. You know how this league works, Brady.
If he was, you know, won four games last year,
I think it would be a lot easier to try
and make that kind of decision, But he went to
the Super Bowl last year, so I don't think it
happens now. Could he walk away from the game, I
doubt it, But again, we don't know what's happening behind

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the scenes with him and his family either, and that,
you know, that's something that's to take into account as well.
So I don't I don't think the Patriots will discipline him.
I don't think he's going to walk away. I think
he's going to be the head coach of the New
England Patriots next year, and I think everybody else. Do
you get an idea that he's not going to be.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
How long does the story last?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, as long as the New York Post keeps stuff
is going to stay in the spotlight, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I mean I think it is. But I mean that's
the debate.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
The NBA put him on the boat. Yeah, yeah, I
mean that's.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
What we did. Think that that kind of tells us
where your league's at. If you have to use an
offseason storyline from another league during the biggest portion of
your league season, kind of tells you where you're at
with all that.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
In my opinion, Oh Rady funny. Come on, No, No,
the show has always been pe funny, Pete.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think it's funny. I'm just saying you don't have
enough material and your side of the league in that
conversation to be able to make it funny. Right, I'm saying,
like I get, I understand what you're saying. I'm also
saying that, you know.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
When they put the people on that boat, I don't
know if you watch that show, when they put people
on the book, A lot of people other than players
on that boat.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I understand.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
No, I I know, I don't. I don't believe that
at all. I think it's sing the segment. I think
the segment and it's loose, and I think they they
took a little.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's the best studio show on TV. No one's going
to debate that, not even clothes. It's and it's way
better than the product that they've got on the court. Uh.
The point we're making, Pete is we've talked about this
subject a lot, and I kind of feel like once
the season starts, it kind of goes away because we'll
get into the games and that that'll be the focus
on everything.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I think legal stuff comes up.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
No, I'm with you, no, you can again. Did we
go back to what we were saying earlier in the show?
The game rolls on. But let's be real, and when
the games roll on, nobody will care about any of that.
I'm with you. I think the story right now it
has legs because the NFL is you know, twenty four
to seven every day of the year, and so it
has legs and that's why people care about it. But no,

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I'm with you. Once the game start, what's okay, I'll
even take it even further. Once training camp starts, nobody's
gonna care.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Oh, who's winning the job?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Who's winning the job?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Is So you're saying it won't come up. It will
not in price, it will not.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Be covered when when we get to training camp. Mike
Rabel's situation will not be discussed in the media. It's
just gone.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Well, I mean somebody he might have to address it
from the start, but then it's gone.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
But then it's gone.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But Pete, if the aj Brown trade does go through,
it's coming right back up. All that stuff's going to
get stirred back up again, because that was that's been
part of the speculator well that you know she was
having she was given information and she was the one
running with the aj Brown rumors and where.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Did you get that?

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Okay, but okay, but okay, right now, if the trade happen,
do you really think that that's the that's that's going
to be the reason the trade happened.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
No, I just think people it's an excuse for people
to bring it up again.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
There's always going to be an excuse to bring it up.
And his name is Mike Vrable, mean he's the head coach. Like, yes,
if they moved on, If Mike Rabel was gone from
coaching the New England Patriots that went to the Super
Bowl not less than a year ago, is gone and
not the coach, I think the story is still a story.

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They're still going to talk about the departure and why
he departed. He's still there. It's going to still be
a story him dealing with still being the head coach
and being there based upon what took place this ouse.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
If they won a Super Bowl, do you think any
New England Patriots fan would give a rat to add?

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Well, I didn't say New England Patriots fans. And in fact,
as you mentioned, I think the only reason why this
isn't isn't blowing up on Mike vrabel is.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Because he went to the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
That's that's if he doesn't go to the super Bowl
and he doesn't have the type of season he has,
I think the pressure is a whole lot different on
the situation. But that doesn't mean that the conversation is
going to come to an end because there is a
it's that idea of Okay, Diana Racini, they'll say lost

(21:11):
her job, even though she walked away, They'll say she
lost her job, her life was impacted by a la
da da da da da dada. That's how our society,
our culture, that's how the culture works these days.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
They are going to continue to.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Throw a narrative at Mike rabel because their sides, and
it's just why didn't he get the punishment that Diana Racining?
Why didn't he get the ultimate fate that Diana Racine.
That's just how I see social media, and that's how
I see media, and that's why I think it'll continue
to persist to be a story. They will continue every

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single time it comes to the New England Patriots come season.
During season, there will be conversations about what took place.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
That's what I believe.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, you have a loud voice in the media, you
should scream and say he should be fired.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Like, no, that's not what I'm Look at what you're doing, bro,
look at what you're doing with Pete Prisco.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I did not say he should be fired. I did
not say he should be fined.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Hey, by the way, Pete, before we let you go,
congratulations a round of applause from our studio audience.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Here, can we get a round.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Of applause for Pete Prisco who finished seventh and Fanny
Fantasy Pros twenty twenty six NFL Mock Draft Accuracy rankings.
You finished me, So congratulations to you.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah. I quite all the draft, all the draft picks
that spend their whole year doing it. I beat up
most of all of them, including our own. And I
tell Ryan Wilson, who I love, by the way, it
works with us, I said, Ryan, you're you're down the
line a little bit, buddy, what's the matter. And they
were all like, oh my god, just stop it. They
you know, you even talked called me the drawing mock draft,

(22:52):
mock draft guru.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's why Ryan's the nicest guy in the world. And
that's really I think part of the issue he needs
to be meaner like you, and then that way maybe
the draft will become a little more accurate. You know.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Well you know what else too, When I when I
do my mock draft, I I don't after being lied
to way back in the day, over the years of
many a guy in this league, I kind of take
into account a lot of the stuff I hear and
let it go in one ear and out the other
and say, what the hell or would that? Why would
they do that? I kind of do it that way.
And so I had Ruttleedge go into the Texans. Nobody,
I don't think. I didn't see anybody else who had

(23:24):
rutlets going to the Texans. And so therefore, you know,
I had heard that he was going to be a
first round pick. I loved this tape. He was a tough,
physical maler and they needed help on the inside. It
just made sense. Nobody told me that, it just made sense.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well done, Pete, Well got number seven.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Yeah I'm not number one, though, but that's number seven
of about you know, twenty nine hundred I think, or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That many people.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, they great, A lot of the great, a lot
of them. Yeah, I want to be number one, though, Brady,
I want to be number ten. By the way, if
I had listened to some information that I had that
I did believe, I would have been number one.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I didn't try to tell you didn't listen to it.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
No, I didn't think the Vikings were going to take Banks.
I had heard rumblings that they like Woods instead. And
I think I don't want right, didn't you? Yes?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did?

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, I did. That was another one I had right, Absolutely,
it made all the sense in the world.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And you you you did not want to believe the
love was going to go as high as he was
going to go.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I tried to give you that I had him at three.
I didn't. I didn't want to. I didn't want to
believe it because I would have. Yeah, no, but I
didn't want I wouldn't have done it. That's that's part
of my problem when I do a mock draft is
I don't necessarily agree with the picks, and so I
fight myself on them. You should see that fight, by
the way. That's that's that's worse than the bar fighting
himself every day on here.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I mean, it was my gosh, he shipped out.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Pete here's what I'll say.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
We know that these are Brady's guests that come on
here because y'all are y are such like like cahoudis
like the.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Ca let me.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Now, oh right out of here, to.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Get out of here.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Just keep just keep in mind, Pete, uh, don't forget
the hand that used to bring you on to the
show in d C.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Pete, don't don't forget your roots, bro, don't forget your roots.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
That was a long time ago. And when I came
on that show and you can scream and yell at
you and win there.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
That is true. I love that.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
That is very true. We always appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week. All right, guys, there is the great.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Peep is go with a senior NFL columns.

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I'm gonna make that, you know. I think it's gonna
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Speaker 4 (27:53):
So there's.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Apparently some level of concern, or at least that's the
report says. And who knows if this is this is
one hundred percent accurate or even fifty percent accurate.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Who's reporting it all right.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Jerry Dulik of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. He is saying
that the Steelers' patients with Aaron Rodgers could be wearing
thin quote after watching two of their expected deadlines come
and go, and insisting this isn't the same situation as
last year. The Steelers might not be so understanding if

(28:27):
this drags on for two more weeks, If Rodgers hasn't
given them a decision by the start of organized team
activities on May eighteenth, their latest deadline, their patients will
start to turn into frustration and maybe something more. The
Steelers had some measure of expectation that Rogers might return
by the start of the NFL combine at the end
of February. Then, based on their conversations with them, they

(28:48):
had a realistic expectation a decision would come by the
start of the NFL Draft. But apparently this is not
about money. That isn't caught up in any of this
stuff here. They were just under the impression that they
would have an answer, at least according to this report,
by now, and they've got none. So now we've got
the two week deadline out there, which all this means

(29:10):
is that as far as this show goes, Brady Quinn
is gonna win the bet.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
We'll get an.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Answer on Aaron Rodgers or not. Wait hold on, hold
On said, when he signs? We said when he signs?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, he said June first, And if this you know
reporting is correct, that would put it closer to June
first than our pick.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, but wait, I don't know. I don't know that
any of us are going to win. That's what what
do you mean we said closest to it?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Well, you don't think he's gonna sign it? That's correct? Okay,
I think I think this is like all right, so.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well, first off, I thought that we made the decision
not about just necessarily signing.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Okay, well, well then that's that's a little different. If
it's if it's the decision altogether, that's it's coming, it's
it's it's quickly winding down. Like Jared du lac Is
is a very very well respected reporter for the State.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
That's what. That's why I was like, who's saying that?

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Well, and right, I mean if he's saying it, that
means that somebody is in is letting him know that
that like we we're not we're not with this, so
what that you know, you got to believe that that's
an indicator. Once that type of speculation happens. If if

(30:28):
Aaron Rodgers has any intentions of coming back, then he
needs to come back now. He needs to make his
intentions known.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Now.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
This isn't the good will that you had when you
were in in Green Bay. This is a very different situation.
So and they drafted they drafted a QB. I just
and they already have too, which I mean, you know,
you could call that whatever you want to call it,
but I just I think that there if he's going

(30:58):
to if he's going to come back, so too huge
point or his prediction if he's going to come back.
I get the feeling that it's a now ur never situation.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I wonder, and this is just speculation. If he feels
like once he gives him that, hey, I'm back that
then you're on the clock and everything they want from
you are going to ask from you. That's that starts.
And he knows that, you know, like right now, if
he keeps kind of pushing this off, but in his

(31:28):
mind has the intentions of being there June one, being
there for the mandatory mini camp. He knows that he
can like spend this last portion of his off season,
his free time, the way he wants to without feeling
that stress, feeling that obligation or having to field those
calls of hey, you're gonna come in? What are you
gonna come in? Like We've got this plan for you
like this, this, this, this, and it's like, look, man,

(31:51):
like I'm on my own time when I want to
come in. I'm going to come in. I've done this
long enough. I know how to prepare my body. I
know what all goes into this. I was there with
you guys last year. I know it's a new coach,
but I know his system. I was with him a
long time. So I wonder if there's an element of
that to a play where he's just pushing this off
as long as he has to. Again, like if you

(32:11):
go back to the person he who influenced him the
most in Brett Farv. Didn't Brett have that like farm
or whatever. The big property he used to take care
of dad, was it Mississippi? Yeah, And he would go
there and just disconnect from the world, and no one
really knew what his intentions were, what his plans were,

(32:32):
And so he decided to come back, and by the way,
that still worked out. All was forgiven, teams still accepted it,
everything else. So I understand the impatience. And I'm sure
there's a thought that if we start putting out stuff,
maybe it puts more pressure on him to make a decision.
But that's not how he operates. That's not gonna persuade

(32:56):
him or motivate him to make a decision sooner. I
think he knows what decision he's going to make, and
I think he's going to come back for one more
run at it, and I think Pittsburgh's going to be
that place.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
What's interesting to me is I think Florio or someone
floated the idea of the Cardinals. I don't see that.
I don't know what you guys think, but I don't
see that.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's basically Florio's trying to connect the dots to where
You've got Mike laflor who was with the Rams and
they were interested in Rogers last year, brother of Matt Lafleur,
who coached Rogers for years. There's also Nathaniel Hacket, who's
the offensive coordinator there, and obviously we know the relationship
between those two and they don't seem to have a
clear starter at quarterback. Yeah, I just I don't think

(33:43):
that there's anybody other than Pittsburgh that makes sense. And
they can get as impatient as they want, but they
sort of set this in motion. They've put themselves in
this spot to where they're relying on the word and
commitment from a guy who's not ready to give his
word and commit and so they can get impatient all
they want. If anything, Like when't this sort of one

(34:05):
of the things he hated about the Jets was all
the leaks, all the stuff in the media, all the speculation,
all the stuff that came out there. If anything, this
would almost to me do the opposite Instead of motivating
him to come back, This would almost be like, why
is this stuff going public? Who in the organization's talking
to Jerry Dulik that would have this information? What is

(34:26):
going on here? Ultimately, I think he Pittsburgh is the
only option. I think that's where he ends up. But
you know, to see this stuff come out, it clearly
had to come from somebody within the organization.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
When things like this happened, once you can get through it.
This happened last year. There were conversations, Mike Tomlin continued
to have the clear up conversations of what they were
going to do with Aaron Rodgers. This is not a
team that had great success with Aaron Rodgers last year,

(35:00):
in fact, to the tune of Mike Tomlin stepping away
from the team as the head coach. So this is
a franchise that needs to regroup and put together what
they're going to do. You bring in your new coach.
That new coach, while he does have familiarity with Aaron Rodgers.

(35:21):
They have worked together and they call him the quarterback
Whisperer who helped develop and was a major part of
Aaron Rodgers development when he came into the league. But
this is not a great career move by Mike McCarthy
in a last opportunity to be a head coach. You

(35:41):
can't be wasting time with the same type of drama
that you dealt with with him in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Can't do it.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
And I think that that's an added element to this conversation,
is that there's a familiarity to this situation from prior,
a prior relationship, a prior stop between the two of them.
I just don't think it's a good. Look, I'm I'm
you gotta believe that the Steelers are fully aware of it,
and that's why they place the tender on them. They're

(36:12):
fully aware of what they're thinking. I feel like when
they place the tender on them, it was like, we're
moving on. We're moving on, and if you're going to
come in, then we can rethink it from there. But
as far as I'm concerned, we're not playing this type
of game. You got until this time to come in.
And yes, he is probably doing what you say, A
QUI probably is trying to keep his options open, have

(36:35):
his free time, have his spare time, because once he
says he's coming back, he's he's got to do it.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
But that's what they want.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
So is he in position to be able to dictate
that or the Steelers going to allow for him to
dictate that. I think by what they're releasing to the media,
they are slowly letting him know that, yeah, we're not
we're not playing that game with you. So I don't
know how that works in terms up. If he's not
reporting and he's not deciding to play, I guess it's like, look,

(37:05):
you're going to play for the Steelers or you're not.
And if you're not going to play for the Steelers
and you're you are trying to go to the Cardinals
or somewhere else, then we're going to get compensated for
moving on. Like I kind of feel like that's where
it kind of gives me. We were moving on from
Aaron Rodgers vibes. That's what gives me, wouldn't it be.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Well, hold on real quick, are you moving on from
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 6 (37:31):
I mean, I've never been with Aaron Rodgers to move
on from.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Him, So if he so.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, it's not. I mean, you're a hinser the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
I wasn't with him when he came to the Steelers.
So if the Steelers had this, I'm with the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
If they were, if they're now at the point to
where they're like, man, we don't care, we're moving on.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Why didn't you just do that a couple of months ago?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Why didn't Aaron Rodgers just have like, let's be clear,
why didn't you just have the conversation.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I don't want to be around.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
I want to play, and I want to come back
and I want to play, but I don't want to
be on your clock until it's time to be on
the clock. Can we can we be okay with that?
So the fact that they don't feel that type of
level of confidence in him where they would take the
approach you're taking, now that's a lack of communication.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well, I would also say, if you're the Steelers, knowing
the situation you're in, because if he comes back, he's
going to come back for one year. If you're the Steelers,
why wouldn't you have just said if we can get
a clear answer, then we're good. But if it's an
I don't know, then to us, that's a no. We

(38:41):
got to move on and we've got to go in
a different direction because I just don't I think this
may have been sort of mismanaged. If this ultimately ends
up in Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers not coming together on
a deal, then I think there's gonna be some second
guessing as to if this was how this was going
to play out. Why didn't you guys just step up
and make the call early in the office.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Was he good enough last year for this to be
that big of a conversation? His last two seasons have
not been impressive enough, Like you're doing it base, Like
the whole Deshaun Watson conversation, Like you're basing it off
of the potential of what.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
The guy was, not what he is. Yeah, but for
fifteen million bucks.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Bad, that's a lot of money for one, even if
it's low key, like low on the low end of
the scale obviously, but you're gonna get what you paid for,
Like your offering fifteen million bucks, then what did he get.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Ten million last year?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
And you got a year for ten million and you
got a damn good year ten million? That level from
Aaron Rodgers? Did they even make the playoffs? Did they
make the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah? They did kind of Okay, did they really?

Speaker 8 (39:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I remember they got wiped out by Houston.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah they did. Listen, it's you're not getting prime Aaron Rodgers.
Prime Aaron Rodgers is gone. If you're Mike McCarthy. If
I felt like I could win immediately with Aaron Rodgers, sure,
you take an aggressive approach, or you take an approach
where you're like, let Aaron do Aaron. We're gonna get

(40:12):
Aaron and everything's gonna be okay. These things that are
going on right now don't happen. If you had that
confidence in Aaron Rodgers, and now you got Will Howard,
you got Drew Aller. Why aren't you just saying, you
know what, we got two of the better quarterbacks out
out of the best conference in college football right now,
and there's the potential that we could develop and find

(40:35):
the gym in one of these two guys. Why not
just turn and shift your attention to these younger guys.
I would feel like at this point that would be
a more feasible and better option for the Steelers to
start building towards the future versus trying to be a
one and done scenario with a guy that apparently is
going to do things the way he wants to do them,

(40:57):
and he's gonna come when he wants to. Paul Us,
I mean, he's gonna he's going to show up when
he wants to show up. I'm still doing that pause thing. Yeah,
it did sound kind of suss That's how I felt.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
But you're right, Brady, it was a really good point.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
He's going to show up when he's ready to show up,
and I just don't know that that's worth it.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
By the way, you mentioned Will Howard and Drew Aller.
Do you hear what Ben Roethlisberger had to say about
what you say. He said, Uh, you know, he didn't
get a lot to watch a lot of Penn State games.
But just in the tape that he watched and Drew Aller,
nothing really jumped off the page to him, but it
did with Will Howard.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
How's that land? I mean, will matter either way?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Will Will Howard went on to win a national championship.
So I will say this, if Big Ben goes and
watches them both throw, he's gonna be more impressed with
Drew Allers unless he will like that dude's got a
cannon and he can frip that thing, and it's it's different.
I think the interesting storyline between both these two, just

(42:03):
because that's where we're here right now, is Will Howard
was a PA kid, he didn't get recruited by Penn State,
obviously ends up finding his way to Ohio State to
then beat Penn State, and that's part of, you know,
his story. And then Drew Allen was an Ohio kid,
didn't get recruited really by Higo State, goes to Penn State,
and so that's kind of the other side of the

(42:24):
story with all this. So it's it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
A wild so who's more Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I I think.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I gotta go with the man. I gotta go with
the PA. Well he's not he say Will Howard.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I don't think he's he's not from West pr Yeah, yeah,
I think he's actually from East pay right. Is he
closer to Philly?

Speaker 6 (42:43):
Yeah, that's not that's that's a total antithesis. Actually, Okay,
well again, and I think we're.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Going to take we will take Drew Allerc We're not.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I've said this, and like when I first was watching
Drew Allery, he kind of reminded me a little bit
of love big Ben. Yeh. Similar in size. Big Ben
I think was a better athlete and moves better, but
like both very strong arms. And I think I'm not again,
I'm not saying try to say Drew alis and become
big men. But I could see in the right system

(43:16):
with Mike McCarthy, who has done really well coaching young
quarterbacks and developing young quarterbacks, I could see him progressing
and becoming the quarterback that I think. And LaVar you
talked about this like you know better than I, and
once you said that, I was like, that makes a
lot of sense. It just never really transformed into like

(43:37):
what I thought he was going to be by the
end of his time at Penn State. But he had
changes of coordinators, and the offense never really felt like
it meshed with what it should have been. Like honestly,
they should have been running what they were with Kerry
Collins back in the day, like under center back formation,
like your base personnel, but like with that bat.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Deal well the backfield and times and tight end.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Lines like that's what you had, so play to that
and then adjust off of that the other wrinkles. And
it never really was that during his time there. So
maybe you're right. Maybe it was James Franklin kind of
micromanaging all of it. The good thing is he doesn't
worry about that now. I mean, think about the personnel
they've got there. They've they've got receivers. But you got
those two big ass tight ends, yes, and they right ends.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
I'm the biggest, the largest, he's massive.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I would try to get that guy like ten touches
a game just to beat down on the other team.
Like I don't care, Lavo, I don't care how big
you are. When you see a tight end who's almost
what three hundred pounds, Come on, man, you don't want
to see him.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
In space down now. Hey, I'm Drew Aller. I got
them big old tight ends. I'm going to throw it
to them. Forget about Amaron Rodgers. We got it the
bird do with Pittsburgh Steelers. We don't need them. Get
rid of them. You got the tender owner and they're
the bidgies, the largest.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Come on, come on, Okay, there's my freestyle for the week.
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
By the way, Brady, Brady made the point Penn State
did have a lot of guys drafted.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
Hey, bro Man, our team was loaded. Bro, that's gotta
be easily in the history of our school. The biggest
disappointment of a season.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
It's not it's not to the I think there was
a lot of people when they saw the number of
Ohio State defensive players that got drafted and just the
combined results, and they're looking around going what happened? Like
why did I just you see the number of Penn
State guys that got drafted and you look at you go, well.

Speaker 9 (45:48):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (45:49):
And the way they're talking about Vega, they're talking like
Vega might be the best drafted old lineman in this
year's draft, and they wouldn't be wrong in that assessments.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
He's up there.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Then you got two again, the only comparable And I
would say and I and I said it going into
that Notre Dame game the year before, the year prior,
I'm taking Penn State's duo running backs over Notre Dames.
I am and and yes I'm biased, but I also
felt like at that point in time, I'm not so

(46:24):
sure they're not the better duo this year either.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
My god, I'm just being round.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
I know, I know what I know, Come on, I know.
Did you look at their body of work?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Oh that sounds like a wager. You look at their
body of work? Better? Better years? Is the difference maker
or the difference.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Maker though he's the man, he's the factor back. But
let me tell you something, Nick Singleton is is a
wild card player. He's a wildcard player. If you ask
me and Kate tron Island will be and and theory,
he will be the better running back, most productive running back,

(47:06):
mark my words, He'll be the most productive running.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Back out of all four of them, out of all four.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Of them this upcoming year, out of all four career
career career.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
It could be a long time. Well oh wow, we
need results here.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
We need to be able to make a wager on
this somehow.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
I just.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
I hey, you know, I said, I hear you type
and go ahead. Who got the better stats coming out
of college? What running backs? I have the better stats?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Well, they didn't have better stats in Jeremiah Love this year.
Like what are you basing that offer?

Speaker 6 (47:41):
I don't know? Okay, who had better stats? What are
the stats they didn't have?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
First off, they didn't have better stats than Jeremiah Love
this year, So there's really no argument, Like that's like,
what are you trying to say? Career stats? Yes, you
had two of those guys who were more impactful yards
for carry? What stats you want to use? I don't know.
I mean, you got two guys go in the first round.
How is this even a conversation? This might be the
worst take you've ever had. You say that you watch

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two guys go first round at the running back space.
The NFL has spoken, and yet you're standing on this
hill alone like General Custard about ready to be absolutely machetied.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yes, I'll take that, all right, So what's the bet
better rookie Sea Levar's combination versus Brady's combination rookie season.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
What's the bet shirt?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Bet you gotta wear a uh the other team's paraphernalia
post on social media?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Okay, what about you wear a LeVar eleven and he
wears a Round ten?

Speaker 4 (48:46):
No, that's corny.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
What do you mean, I'll I'll wear Jeremiah Love jersey
or shirt. I'll wear Jeremiah Love shirt if he has
the best. But I think he is going to have
the best year immediately. But we're talking about the duo
combine between the two week.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
I bet you, I bet you this.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
I bet you both Penning State running backs play more
than both Notre Dame running backs.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Really more snaps? What do you mean if I say
more snaps? She was going to start him. I'll say
more snaps, all right, Like.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
You're gonna say that like, oh, he's going to do it,
Seattle's going to start Like that does nothing for me?
Like you're not going like like try to talk me
out of what I'm feeling. I mean, what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Love and Price? You are both gonna shown this? Knock
says to me with a loud voice, what you made?
Settles going to start saying more? I supposed like I'm
supposed to jump out of away. I'm just gonna have
two starters for sure. Who's gonna start out running back
for Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
I don't know who's the uh who do they have? Pollard?
He's going to start?

Speaker 5 (49:54):
You start?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Can I just answer the question that LeVar asked initially?
All right? Obviously Jeremiah Love started. Jenderian Price was a backup,
So those stats are gonna be a little bit skewed.
But Jeremiah Love outrush both k Tron Allen and Nicholas
Singleton in the past two years.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
About how much?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Again, let's see by how much he got. Two years ago,
he rushed more than Singleton by one hundred yards I think,
and k tron by it was closer than that. Now
this past season again rushed more than them, maybe by seventy.
This also does include does not include receiving, which again

(50:35):
unfortunately does not go in the favor of either running
back from Penn State. But Love outrush both the past
two years and obviously had more yards from scrimmage as well.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
I say, K Tron Allen will be starting for the
Commanders and we'll have the.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Better year out of all of the backs we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
All Right, I'll take my two Notre Dame running backs again,
and who the NFL shows in the first round again,
that will be better than both your Penn State running backs.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
I wouldn't expect you to do anything else other than that.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think a blind man who's listening to this conversation
would also agree with me, that's never seen any of
the running backs play would probably just be like, yeah,
I like the two guys they took in the fret.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
You ate this.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
They're both gonna start so unless they're gonna get injured, like,
they're gonna end up rushing and having more production.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Save Brady Quinn saying all of these things, because you're
going to eat these words this time next year, you're
going to eat these words. That's you, and it's gonna
be and it's going to be good. It's going to
be good.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
You're not even owning up to what you said this
past year, Like you just tried to say that they
rushed more than Jeremiah Love and.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
They did say that they rushed more. I said that
you said earlier this.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Year they were the better backs and they weren't. They
are even in the biggest game Penn States played since God,
I don't know how long they didn't show out the
way Jeremiah Love did to beat them to go to
the National Championship. There is zero argument to be made.
It's just completely biased. Again.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Just like just like Jonas, you can't raise your voices
at me and get me to be like, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I would say. I say I'm wrong when I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Okay, but I'm over forty all right, and I'm still working,
I'm still competing. But my energy's dropping.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Tell us why waits starting to stick?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Tell us what's not a discipline problem? It's it's a biology.
I'm getting old. It doesn't mean and you have to
accept it or I have to accept it. True. But look,
I take M Drive every day, drive men dot com,
M Drive for men who show up.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
It is two Pros here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas
Knocks with you. Coming up next though, we are going
to have a discussion about what the plan may be
for one team's quarterback depth chart season, and that's yours
here on FSR.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
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Speaker 3 (53:17):
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Speaker 4 (53:24):
With the hair.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
You know who's going to have a I'd love to
hear his pick. Pete Prisco on the little bet you
guys have Notre Dame versus Penn State running backs next year.
Wonder which way Prisco's sale is gonna blow.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I could care less.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
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(54:06):
Somebody is complaining about the NBA. You'll hear that coming
up here in about twelve minutes from now. Right now,
you're going to hear Matt Ryan who he's running the
show there in Atlanta, and he is the guy for
the Atlanta Falcons making decisions.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
He was on with the fan in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yesterday talking about Michael Pennix Junior's rehab and also what
that looks like for him next year when it comes
to the quarterback situation.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
I think the biggest thing is you just don't know
where Michael's going to be at. You know, he's doing
a great job. I mean he since I took the
job back in January, at the beginning of January. I mean,
he's been in there doing rehab, working with our rehab guy,
Nick Karpino, who's done a great job with him. You know,
Jake File, the athletic training staff, all of those guys
have done a great job. But you got to give
the player credit. Mike has been he's been on it

(54:54):
and you know, he looks good. He's done a lot
of stuff for us on the field. As far as expectations,
we don't really know what to expect at the beginning
of training camp.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
So this is to his.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Gig right, He's going to be the starter in Atlanta
because I look at it and I go the people
that you know wanted Michael Pennix Junior there that that
regime is gone. He's coming off the injury, which is
what his third is. This his third ACL injury that
he's had in his career, which is not great. And
Tua comes in, he's played good football before, and I

(55:27):
just wonder, and I asked the question because we had
the conversation when we touched on the Deshaun Watson stuff,
and Brady made the point that, Listen, Kevin Stefanski's system
was never great for Deshaun Watson. So which of these
two would be a better fit for Kevin Stefanskis system
As training camp approaches and they get ready for this
next season.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
I'm going to say right now, first and foremost, I'm
gonna say I like what Matt Ryan had to say.
He was truthful, he was honest, He was up front
about the scenario. And you don't really know where Michael
Pennix is going to be based off of what he's saying.
Health wise, Kevin Stefanski right right coach. In terms of

(56:13):
being able to make things work with a quarterback situation.
We saw how you developed Baker Mayfield. We saw what
happened with Joe Flacco. They were able to have levels
of success. You got one of the best offensive weapons
in your backfield and Bijon Robinson. It's a great scenario
and a great situation to walk into. And I think

(56:37):
you're correct in the assumption and the assessment that too
is going to be the starter as we get going.
Just from the simple standpoint of it just doesn't sound
like Michael Pennix is.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Where he needs to be yet health wise.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
That would be my only maybe point of saying that
that's why Toa comes in as the star.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
I mean, Michael Pennix, I don't know that he has done.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
The best job of establishing that he is the starter
for this Atlanta Falcons team. But nonetheless, I think it's
more so based off of what his perceived health is
at the moment versus anything other than that.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I mean, his biggest issue is his injury history. And
if you've been in the NFL for two years and
you've had issues with injuries, that's a problem. Like there's
really no long term reassurance that you can be a
franchise quarterback for the long haul because unfortunately he hasn't
been able to stay healthy and in the past that's

(57:43):
been an issue. So as an organization, how can you
really make a big financial commitment to him? And ultimately,
if you really think about why Matt Ryan is in
the position that he's in. It's in large part because
of the prior decisions made by Terry Fondo to take Cousins,
who is coming off in Achilles, to then draft Penix,

(58:04):
who had this litany of injuries, and now they find
themselves in the position where Terry Fono's not there anymore.
My Kirk Cousins isn't there anymore, and Michael Pennox most likely,
you know, even despite coming from this injury, he might
play a little bit this year. But I first see
this thing being more of their position themselves to take

(58:26):
a quarterback in next year's draft, and there is a
bunch of them. I'll keep saying it because it's the truth,
and it'll be interesting to see, you know, where this
direction goes. But they'll be in striking distance to take
a quarterback in next year's draft, and I think they'll
start over.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Them better fit for Stefanski system. Tua or Penix, Come on,
Braden t Quinn.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I mean, the problem the problem is is both. I
would say Tua, although you know, because he's operated a
little bit more into center in particular in the NFL,
whereas with Pennix, I mean they adapted to him last year,
like they put in more pistol because that's what he
felt comfortable doing. He wants to be a shotgun. He
doesn't want to be under center, and it only makes

(59:11):
a little tougher obviously moving if you're coming off of it,
you know, again another injury, another ACL. So that's why
I look at it and just say, all right, like
here we are, we are, you know, trying to figure
trying to figure this out, but you're almost kind of
kicking the can down the road.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
I mean, I'll take Tua, who is going to be
the guy, and I think he has a bounce back here.
He's got some weapons and things to work with there.
I think Atlanta is going to be vastly improved.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Here's what Here's where the conversation to me would have
needed or needs to go at some point. How bad
is this pick for Atlanta if Michael Pennix doesn't prove
out and isn't the one over to like I would
feel like he wasn't an insurance policy to Michael Pennix

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being the starter. And if that's not the case, then
don't you have to look at them taking him where
they did in the draft as a horrible horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Decision to have made.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Probably, I mean that's to me, that's the bigger conversation.
You wasted a pick on a player that could be
potentially making your team much much better than what it
even is now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I mean, and this is not to be disrespectful, but
if you would have told Terry Fontine the day they
made the decision to draft Michael Pennix junior. By the way, Terry,
in two years from now, you're going to be next
to LeVar doing Draft Night Live. Oh that's cool.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
I'm just saying that might be an indication that things
didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
That's cold, but I'm just saying it did not work out.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
I mean, people are just really close with Jay and
like working with Jay, and I think that when guys
do the show, they're really just doing the show because
they're trying to get reps, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
By the way, But you're right, you got so you
But you're right, though, so can I can I just
ask you this when you're because you're stuck working with
me every day and it's just slappy central. When you
work with an actual professional like Jenny Taft, like, doesn't
it open your eyes to all the flaws that I
have as a host.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Well, first of all, I run a show, and I've
done this show when Brady has run this show. So
I think that the cool thing about it is as
all three of us could do what you do, like
we choose to allow for this to be the way
that it is, just so everybody's clear, like because you are,
because you are for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Jonas does a great job at it, and I could
not do what he does.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Well, I'll speak, I'll speak for myself.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
I thought you did an excellent job when you were
doing the lead for the show. I do it every Saturday.
I do the show, so you know I get really
good reps. Yeah, I do. I'm pretty cool at at
lead in the show. You are really good, though I
have said you are the Jenny Taft. Jenny is a dope.
She's she's super dope with what she does. Like I

(01:02:09):
think that she's she has done really really well. Stone
did it the years before she came in. She's done
it the last two years. So he's a bowling guy now. Well,
I think they both have done excellent jobs, and I
think it's a really fun time. This year was really
fun because it went way quicker, which made it so
much better.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
He takes two minutes off the clock.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Man, things change, Yeah, but I mean having the chair
you know, be different for the GM by year. I
think it's been pretty cool because you get an opportunity
to like meet guys like I didn't know who font
knew was before before that you know that evening and
you get a chance to talk to them. But yeah,
I mean it's a it's a it's a good show.

(01:02:50):
But but again, I think I think the bigger conversation
has to be that you have a Sam Darnold situation
brewing with my Pinnicks, and can can Michael Pinnix be
a Sam Darnold at at some point in his career,
like big draft slot, you know, hasn't stayed healthy. Now

(01:03:14):
he has multiple injuries from college, now he has multiple
injuries in the pros. Is you know three and six
record as a starter, Like it's just it's just it's
a I think that's the bigger conversation here is Pinnis
needs to prove out and and it's not for any
other reason, then you use the high draft pick on
him at that position.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you coming up next, somebody complaining about the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
What else is new right here on FSR,