July 8, 2026 • 41 mins
On this Wednesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington updates the World Cup results and even some ratings from Team USA vs Belgium's previous game. Plus, the guys breakdown a Telemundo call for the ages, we have a behind the scenes story edition of ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you Air coming
up on this Wednesday edition. We got more World Cup conversation.
We got the numbers that are in and it seems
like it's good news. Unfortunately the result was awful. We've
also got the very latest when it comes to the
Lebron James Sweepstakes, one team apparently making moves to try
and set it all up. Joey McGuire's trying to explain
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all the support he received for the Texas Tech Fiasco. Plus,
we've got another edition of In case you missed it.
We've also got our Midweek Awards. We've got the leftovers
and an appearance from the old p Petros Papadaeicas that
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to three on penalties. Yeah, all right, leave that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
There's a number of people who are surprised by that
outcome and also disappointed, the most of the cameraman for
Fox apparently.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So, yeah, Columbia's brought out the big guns man yesterday.
They're not messing up. What do you mean not messing
around exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did they pay around for the crowd this time? Hey man?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah. They've they've done well for themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
There's times where I think the cameraman gets stuck just geez, like.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Hey, I'm gonna just stay here for a little bit.
Huh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And by Jonah said this yesterday, one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
They'll show like celebrities at the USA Games when they
go to some of each other teams though it is
just straight who that camera guy thinks is hot.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They just they just stay there.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They don't care what politician or celebrity from that country
is there, Like they don't Like you're watching Spain, you
don't see Harvey Javier bar Dam there, you don't see
you know, anybody that's a that's a well known actor
or actress from you see the Rocket Ships Center in
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Wow, Ryan's firstky today. Huh wow, that is uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But listen man, speaking of the World Cup, I know
that there it was a downside when it comes to there.
There was a lot of downside when it came to
the US losing to Belgium. But if you're gonna get
your ass beat and you're gonna get just buried the
way they did for ninety plus minutes on the pitch,
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as they call it, at least you did it in
front of record numbers, because we're looking at what over
thirty million people tuned in to watch the US get
stomped out by Belgium. I believe thirty eight million at
its total, and it's the most watched soccer game US
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soccer game in the history of US soccer. And at least,
well mean, at least if you're going to set a record,
give them everything, and boy do we get it, which
seems to me like it might be a problem moving
forward if that many people. It would almost been better
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if you got half the audience to witness that. But
you know, good for Fox, good for good for all
the broadcasting partners, the advertisements, but not great look for
US soccer based on those numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Somebody compare the US soccer team to James Franklin and
Penn State and big games, and I was so offended.
I was so taken aback. I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't know. I just said, you know, I saw that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I think that The tweet was the US men's
national team did so bad that somehow like James Franklin
started trending on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's crazy. That is crazy. Man.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You can say a lot of things about James Franklin,
don't ever compare him to the US men's soccer team.
That's how bad that was.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I was actually gonna say, he's got a much better
track record of next month than the national team.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, they've they don't look I know that that. There's
a lot of blame going around. There's a lot of
jokes being made. I believe there's a Texas Tech joke
that was thrown in there as well too, on the
Reddit college Football social media page.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I just.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I don't know where you go from here other than
and I would imagine the tickets are dropping, Like at
the ticket prices are all dropping. I haven't checked since yesterday,
but the ticket price is for the SOFI game now
that it's not the US and it's Spain versus Belgium,
all those ticket prices, so I know that you wanted
to keep show.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I feel an opportunity for you, buddy, Like this is
like where you take answer to it came and you know, I.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Don't want to deal with SOFI. I mean it's temping.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's gonna be cheap, though it's gonna be really cheap.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Although they're not calling it Sofi. They're calling it a
Los Angeles stadium, according to Rob Stone, who's quick to
point that out. So I just if you're US soccer,
maybe there's some momentum, maybe you've gotten more people into
the sport over this brief run. But that display in
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front of that many people, I just can't imagine is
gonna Uh, it's going to lead to a lot of
a lot of people picking up a soccer ball and going,
you know what, I want to be a part of this,
Like I think we do well for themselves. So I
don't know where you guys stand on it. What about you?
Of are I could care? Lest It's just what's I mean?
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Can't you just support your country?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes? God said, do you support my country? What do
you mean.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
They need your help. No, I can't help them. Man,
come on, you're I mean you've you've given help give
birth to uh phenomenal athletes. I mean, you've got a
stud at Penn State, You've got stut athletes that are
that you are related to you, You're round stud athletes
all the time. Can't you push one or two of
them into the soccer world so they don't get put
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in a clown suit against Belgium years down the road.
We got to help this cause they all played soccer
and what happened they started playing something else. So it
really is whoever couldn't make it in those other sports?
You just it's all the leftovers to go to it.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, look, if we want to get into the
nitty gritty of why a lot of people feel like
and I'm not sure if you saw this, they were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The model in Europe versus the model in the US.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The model in the US is a payer model, meaning
if you want your kids to being a good soccer club,
you want them to have the best chance for the
best coaching and play the best competition. The e CNL,
all this stuff you're paying like, you're paying out of pocket.
For this if you look at how it works, and
by the way, it's not cheap. If you look at
how it works in Europe, when they have one of
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these young men or women, you know, as they go
up and they make these teams, the professional league pays
back down through the club, so it hits everywhere that
player had been and so the cost of the parent
is an big which means the barriers to entry aren't
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as hard or harness high. So you can have a
much greater population going in to go play a sport
because they're not prohibited by the cost.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And so then you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Look at how that impacts the clubs too, and they're
all in alignment because if you are able to have
the best players, develop the best players, and send them
off into the pro game, it ends up paying you back.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And that's like a true development model.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What happens in the US with their model of club
soccer is you have all these parents paying, and then
what happens with the club is because they are trying
to make money, they're trying to stay afloat, they don't
have this incentive to send these kids up to the pro.
They get these big paydays that help fund the club.
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They end up keeping on kids you should be on there,
because they got to keep the lights on and they
got to pay the bills. And so instead of working
and developing towards the best, you actually end up hurting
some of those best players because you've got them playing
with lesser players because those players are just payers. They're
not legitimately ever going to be able to make it
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or anything. But their kids have that dream of, as
Pete Priscoe talked about yesterday, they have that dream of
being able to one day go off and you know,
play a professional sport, play in soccer in this case.
So there's a lot of issues, but just even the
structure of the United States and how it works for
kids to get to the most elite coaching and games
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and practice everything else. It's a restrictive model, man, And
so for forget whether or not athletes are actually picking
to go play the sport of soccer, even if they
wanted to. It's so damn expensive, the commitments difficult. I mean,
you've it's hard. I mean, look, I've got three girls
from in it right now. I mean it's hard today
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is for two parents to be able to share it. So
I'm just saying it is not a sport that, based
on its current to me, is ever going to grow.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In this country. What's the what's the most affordable sport?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Basketball?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Is it basketball?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, and that's basketball, So, I mean, and that's
considering leagues and all the other tournaments.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And then once you get into that, there's there's two
ways of looking at it. Are you investing in your
kid being on a travel squad because you want them
to have the experience, or are you investing in them
because you can see the potential of their development within
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the sport, whether it's multiple sports.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean I had heck, I travel.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You traveled for basketball if you were good, obviously travel teams,
you travel abroad. Soccer is the same way. It's just
you have I guess in a lot of ways, you
could compare soccer to basketball because you have in door
season you have you know, outdoor you know, blacktop season
for basketball, and you have outdoor for soccer, you know,
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and volleyball you have sand, you have indoor, you have
court volleyball football you don't. Actually football became a travel
deal as well because of seven on seven. So there
is a lot of expenses connected to kind of every sport.
But if you were to say, okay, this is local,
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we want to take them to the local YMCA or
to the local you know, whatever it may be, mortars,
whatever it may be, to participate, it's probably basketball, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Because what I mean, as the kid gets older, you're
buying shoes and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, well, and think about it.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I would go as far as saying, that's like even
for the sports like football, for example, you know, they
provide helmets, shoulder pads on this stuff. That's not as
expensive as some may think. And the reality is everyone
kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Goes and plays.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If we're just talking about tackle, I'm not talking about
seven on seven flag football.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That dismissive tone when it comes to seven on seven
flag football stuff, Why can't you I just.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know, it's not it's not football for me, So
I'm sorry, that's just not football.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, LeVar, is it football? It's not football? You
know why. Here's exactly why it's not football.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Because you don't have linemen and lineman ultimately dictate games
because you need big men, the guys who are actually
doing all the work up front.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's the truth.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like, that's poor of the reason why I can't call
it football because you don't actually have the biggest, most
talented people. And anyone can argue with me all they want,
but go up to any man that you walk in
front of today and say I'm going to try to
move you against your will and tell.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Me that's not a skill.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So that's one of the things that I hate most
about the conversation around seven on seven to flag.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, it's not football, it's not called something different.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I digress the like if you if you actually look
at the tackle football the youth levels, it's not that
expensive either.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now you can get off into.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Like these different you know, travel leagues, et cetera, all
that stuff, but you will find great coaching at those levels,
and you will find everyone feed to those levels and
you can sell at an early age. And again I'm
sure lev Ar, can you know attest to this. You
see kids who are really good, like right away, and
then people started kind of developing and feeding and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, it happens.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's but again, compared to soccer where you are bred,
this idea that you know, these rec leagues for that
sport aren't good enough. You have to go to club
you have any shot. That's where the best coaching art,
that's where the best players are, the best fields, et cetera.
And if you don't go there, there's no chance of
getting there. There's plenty of kids you play in, you know,
a wreck tackle football league, that have all the resources.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They need to be able to get to the NFL
one day. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I can't believe how expensive baseball is. Some of the equipment,
like gloves, bats, I.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Can only imagine to what I mean, you have to
be going to like a secondhand store, aren't you secondhand store? No, God,
there's there's no.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why we're watching those glove repair videos. Yeah, yes,
that's exactly what it is. We pulled it off a
scrap you. I took it off a bum who stole
it off a construction site, and we just went with that.
But it's I mean, just to even be a part
of a league, and it's not even there's no like
my son's five years old. There's no travel league, there's no,
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it's nothing like that we're even looking at. But even
be a part of a league, the fee that goes
along with it, uh, the the equipment as they get older, cleats,
all of it. You're paying for jerseys, you're paying like
it's pricey, man. And so there were a lot of
parents that were going to secondhand stores to get gloves
and things like that because all of that stuff added up,
and I can't imagine what it is like to have
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two or three or four kids that are that are
going at it at the same time. You're just quadrupling
the price for all that. So yeah, it's but when
you think about it, basketball, yeah, we really just is shoes.
Like you're worried about shoes, and you know, if you
need practice you can go find an outdoor hoop somewhere.
And as the kid gets older, you can.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do that with soccer, and you can do that with
you know, other other sports. It's just again not I
think for me, it's it's the amount of the workload
that that you're going to have in terms of the travel.
If you got one kid, like you guys mentioned, if
you got one kid, it's probably any sport in theory
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outside of maybe they say lacrosse and in hockey, Oh,
hockey's ridiculous outside of those outside of those, and I
would probably assume that maybe maybe lacrosse is a little
bit more affordable these days as well.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, you got to stick a few balls of cleats, man.
I mean until you get to all the gear and
all that, you.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Still got it. Yeah, like once you get to the
gear part.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
But anyway, the point I'm making is that it really
does come down to the ability to travel, Like if
you have the resources to be able to travel, because
it's one thing to send your kids on trips. And again,
if your kid isn't an elite kid, chances are you
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got to be there with your kid. Like, nobody wants
to babysit your kid. So unless you're with an elite
team where they're okay with taking the kids and they
pay for the trip and whatever, it may be, more
often than not you have to be on these trips
with your kids. And for some strange reason, it's funny
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because they know. I'll tell you who really gets you, though,
and they get you, get you.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's cheerleading. They get you, man, they get you.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I'm telling you, every time you turn around, I'll be
looking at some of these events and God bless I
know some of the people that own the franchises and
run it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So I'm not trying to like rain on their parade.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Some of these joints, you be you pull up into
it and you look at and you be like, really like, really,
this is where, this is where we're at. You're telling
me we got to be out in Orange County all
day for this. Oh you're telling me we gotta fly
all the way to Florida for this. Really, this is
what you did.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
This is what the winners this is what like, this
is winners circle. This is what it is. Huh.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I mean, I will say, she chairs up Penn State
now and she's we're the only national champion we have
in our family. She's a three time national champion. But
you know that's that's that's that one wears you down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I remember LeVar telling me, he goes, hey, man, you'll
see if your son gets older anyone to play. Your
vacations are where he travels to for games and turn
that's vacation, he goes. That's that's what comes along with it,
because you realize they get you all year round, and
you're always on the go fall ball.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
They get you all year.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Round, so it doesn't stop. There's no off season.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
And you don't want your kids to not be active.
So you find a way. I mean, even if you
have money, like if you have money and have resources.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's it's a lot. It's a lot to juggle. Man.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And back to the original point and how this relates
to the US men's national team. I thought this was
there's just so much competition for other sports, like I
don't I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Let's say they get to the round of eight.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Let's say they win against Belgium, the one they're not
beat in Spain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, I mean, that's that's pretty evident.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
But it's just to me, there's competition and so many
other sports, and to sit there and try to dismiss
the fact that, like, hey, some of our best and
brightest aren't playing well, it's true. And look we've got
there's a young young man named Cavin Sullivan. He's out
of PA He is looking to be like that next star,
but he's only fifteen and so he's not quite there yet,
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but like he's on his way, and could he be
one player who turns that tie potentially, like he could
become at least how he currently looks at fifteen, he
could become that next I don't know, Holland Messi.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is someone along those those lines, that's how good he
is at this age.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I believe he's in man US Manchester United's like youth
you know program kind of coming up whatever. He's already
sign a contract everything else when he turns eighteen, So
like there's some there's some hope, and there's his hope
in the next World Cup, like he would be a
part of that national team.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But that's one player, and there's just there's not enough.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And I do feel like if you looked at any
other European country, you're probably saying, right, it's soccer, and
then what basketball? Maybe, I mean there's really not competition
for a lot of the best athletes here. I mean,
you've got a litany of things you could pick from.
And if you look at our biggest sport, football, and
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then you look at some of the other biggest sports
around at least you know the Big three, you know
it's baseball or basketball or whatever else, Yeah, our talent
pool is depleted. And so everyone making excuse for US
men's soccer saying, well, you know, it's not just about this,
it's no, it is about that. Like at a youth
sports level, there are kids being pulled away from it
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and honestly, I would go even a step further. Forget
about the expense for a second. It's not as fun
like they make it, almost in some ways so serious.
For like, the the creative athletic development of some of
these kids never really happens because they do force them
to be so singular and thought in their approach.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
They don't allow for a kid to be a multi
sport athlete.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And maybe they say, look, you can't become what a
Cabin Sullivan, for example, is unless you are that focused
and detailed into it. My argument would be, well, maybe
for that kid that's how it works, but not for
all of them.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Like I looked at a young LeVar Arrington yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That dude, I'd put him in any sport and I
bet he would be phenomenal in any sport.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, so I don't need.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To sit here and we can say, oh, well, that's
it's not just about no, it is about the talent pool.
Like we are distracted by other sports too. It's not
like our singular focus is soccer like it is in
other countries. I mean, go look at the turnout for
these for these these other games in these other countries,
and what it looks like for their fan base, it's
not the same for us.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like it's just it's just not and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But let's be honest about it, Like it's not our
number one sporting priority. If it was, it would probably
look a lot different. And like, dare I compare it
to Basketball's dream team. But let's just be real, Like,
if we took the greatest you know, group of athletes
for a four year period of time we could ever
see and put them in.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Soccer, we'd probably kick everyone's butt. That that's just that's
just how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Then you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Our best athletes
do not play soccer. I mean, that's just the reality
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Speaker 8 (25:11):
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Speaker 7 (25:57):
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Speaker 8 (26:13):
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Speaker 7 (26:24):
That call?
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way tire buying should be. That's got to be an
awful feeling, just awful voice gives out, just takes a
crap right in the middle of trying to give that
epic goal call. You know, he's used to it, his
voice giving out like that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, how do he soccer matches?
Does it do a year? You don't think that happens
more than once.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I've never heard him like that though, Like he's always
pretty solid on his goal calls.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You listen to his goal calls. It's just an every
night thing for you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, Lorena, what's it? You got?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I still have your goal call?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That wasn't even that great?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well can we hear it though, because there wasn't a
crack in this one, was there?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Don't said anything like me?
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Yeah, this one is, this is the initial goal thing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That one sounds good though, That didn't sound like his
voice is given out there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He sounds strong.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, he sounds good, stinging from the diaphragm.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That last one he.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Must That's an awful feeling, just just terrible. Well, I
mean it's self inflicted, isn't it. I mean, now I
got yours ready, let's hear it?
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Put him no, No, keep going, keep going, hold it, hold.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It, hold it.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He's about to pass out. That was really good. That's
really good. That's up.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's a difficult spot, man. You know, he's uh, he's
he's trying to fight through all the all the pain
and the discomfort to try and land that call. And
it was an incredible game to where Egypt was up
to nothing. I got to the seventy eighth minute and
Argentina somehow rallied ended up winning an extra time, which
is two games in a row that you look at
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and go many they maybe should have lost both of those,
and they end up pulling it out here as they're
trying to go back to back when the World Cups
this time around. But Messi's unbelievable, man, like he'ing. That
was a game that which he got a he got
stopped than in a penalty shay.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Which a lot of people are breaking down because because
did he do the stutter step or he didn't do
the stutter step?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I thought he did a brief one.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
But right, everyone's everyone's making a big deal about this
whole stutter step thing, which I don't know why these
guys just don't go up there.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And blast it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I mean when another thing I would say, not to
be like critical of some of the games, but can
you just show from behind the goal or behind the
player kicking, like the side angle of it never gives
it the true like does it justice for how close
it is, But then how big some of these goalies
(30:39):
are and how small the goal feels like. I just
I feel like when you get that from right behind
the kicker before he goes, it adds to it. It
makes it look so much more intense because you're like, damn,
it is close. But I could you can also see
how like you could airmail one if you're trying to
kick it too hard, or like why a goalie could
stop it. But the general point is these guys are
(31:01):
so powerful.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know that these goals can really even if
they guess right, like could still stop it based on
where they can put it, like close to the bar
on either side.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
That's why I was watching the one yesterday with Columbia,
and the goalkeepers didn't look stressed out at all. The
guys who had to actually do the kicking look like
they were concerned. Like one of the guys for Switzerland,
I guess it missed in the euro Championship and then
missed in that one as well too. It looked like
he was about to cry. The goalkeepers are like, listen, man,
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everything's against us. If we can stop it, cool, that's awesome.
But the expectation is we're going to give up a
goal here. It's just it's too big of a net
for them to be able to make up that much
ground and you have to either guess right, and then
even a couple of times yesterday they did guess right,
ball still got by. So I just I look at
the goalkeepers. There's zero pressure. It feels like on the goalkeepers,
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like the expectation is you're not going to stop them.
We realize you're up against it. But for the guys
who've got to actually like execute the kick, those they
feel like they're wearing it a little bit when they're
out there. It's fun though, man, it's exciting as hell.
What is the pks? Oh yeah, when you go to
in soccer at the end, you do a pencas.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I love how the World Cup is such a big
deal for Fox Sports. LeVar is just like, nope, I'm
good I'm just gonna sit this one out. You guys
go ahead and handle this.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Can't do it all like it's not very often too.
I can't here.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We've got like a company of wide email to like
promote and talk about and obviously, you know, throughout the
course of the show we give updates on this and
what happened last night. But I've just seen like there
hasn't been many things where that's actually been sent out
and this is one of the LeVar is just like, no,
I'm good man, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, it's to watch Love Island. Here's what I say.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
This is the beauty of having a three man show
is that I can sit this one out. You know,
there's two more left and then and and your voices
are valued. So now me man, I'll mix it up
in any topic like that, that's good. I'm the can man.
I just topic can get it good. I'd just like
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to contribute on a very very passive approach on on
this one in particular, that's all.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And by the way, for people that are wondering, we
have tried, like we have we have pulled every angle,
uh that we possibly could to try and get Lebari
No got me into talking about traveling and stuff like that.
I got involved.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, I got involved.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
We I got involved with the goal.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I got involved with goal.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
We tried to h like we've set you know, some
of the different fan bases and crowd shots, which, by
the way, some of those are AI like it. They're
not even Some of this AI that they're trying to
show you isn't even good Like I figured. I thought
we would progress to a point to where it'd be questioned, well,
they're showing fans and the stands going on kind of
I'm kind of.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Out of a I by the way, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It's just, you know, everyone's trying to hype it up,
but just you know, you can't replace humans, can't You
can't replace Patty and Lorraina.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I think people are starting to realize that too. Some
company had a bunch of layoffs and then they realized
they're like, oh, it's not as we're not as effective
as we thought.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
We're gonna hire all these people back, so something about good.
I'm glad they and and I hope the people hire back.
Ask for a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Well, be careful there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think part of the issue too was a I
wasn't as effective, but also it's it's super expensive, you know,
for all.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
These AI agents.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So yeah, anyway, yeah, well not nothing, get off on
a tangent. Just trying to get far back in the picture,
you know, just trying.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
To love AI conversations. Now I'm on AI right now
and we're speaking.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, what's how many goals?
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Is?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Think about the World Cup? I wasn't looking up the
World Cup. Sorry, wasn't wasting my credits on that, Like
it's a jukebox. Yeah, put in timbos, not wasting on
the World Cup. All right, Well, listen, we know this.
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here are the scores from yesterday. Argentina over Egypt as
you heard, three to two, and Switzerland be Columbia four
to three on penalties. Up next, it's another edition of
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Speaker 5 (35:39):
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Speaker 1 (35:52):
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Speaker 5 (36:25):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (36:34):
Guys, in case you missed this. There was another Wickersham
classic that came out yesterday. Seth Wickersham, a ESPN who
writes these novels breaking down all sorts of stuff. He
broke down the Seattle Seahawks and their run, you know,
back in the twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen era. He broke
(36:55):
down the Tom Brady, Jimmy Garoppolo, Bill Belichick dynamic years
and years ago. He's done a lot of these. His
latest piece was on Sean Payton and the run in
the postseason for the Denver Broncos, and just sort of
detailed going through the entire playoff game by game preparation,
(37:15):
finding out that bo Nicks was out and injured and
all of that. But there was a little snippet that
was put in there regarding Bill Belichick. I'll read the following.
Bill Belichick, a friend of Sean Payton, sent him bullet
points that he used to give to his Patriots teams.
Peyton and Belichick go back decades forged by mutual respect
(37:36):
and mutual trauma from working under Bill Parcells. When Belichick
and the Patriots divorced in twenty twenty four, Sean Payton
considered presenting Broncos owner Greg Penner a proposal for the
Ages hire Bill Belichick as head coach until he reached
fifteen wins enough to break Don Shula's career record of
three forty seven. Peyton would temporarily step down to assistant
(37:58):
head coach and run the offense, then move back after
Belichick became the all time leader. In the end, it
was too complicated and maybe too fanciful. Is there any
possibility that Belichick would have signed up for that? Like,
that's like, it seems like somebody who enjoys the tradition
of the game.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So let me answer by saying yes, and then point
out that he's coaching at North Carolina right now.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So what makes you think he wouldn't sign up for that?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because it would feel like it's too gimmicky.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It just feels like you're gonna have Sean Payton step
down so I can get a bunch of wins and
then come back on after I get those wins, and
we're gonna just.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Wark tell me, Tell me who it doesn't work for.
It worked for the Broncos, obviously. If they're winning and
he's your head coach, he accomplishes his goal. The team
accomplishes their goal and then you know at some point
in time he's gonna step down and give it his
age and all that. You'd have to have a secession
plan in place anyway, right, Like it's not like you
wouldn't want to have a coach in waiting on Bill
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Belichick's staff, So all that kind of lines up and
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Honestly, I think at the root of it, it's a
kind gesture. Oh yeah, and that you know it, It
exposes something beautiful about the camaraderie and the relationships that
exists within the football world. You know, Sean Payton, That's
that's a solid, solid idea solid move to try to
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honor somebody who has meant so much to the game.
So that's that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How I looked at it and what And you know,
sticking to Don shul at the same time as Walter,
you're not really sticking it to Don Shulo. Belichick and
Schuler didn't have the great.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Have a great relationship.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, it's also for all the players for constantly celebrating
the demise if everyone else gets close to an undefeated season,
Like I'm kind of tired of that, Like catch a
root for someone else to also be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So you have some company there.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm with you, and it is interesting that nobody else
has been able to do it. There's two there's two
sore winners on that that them the Miami Dolphins toasting
up every single time there's no undefeated's Eric Dickerson when
when somebody gets close to his record and can't quite
get it, I do not want you to get my record.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
He loves it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
He does not shy away from it, not one bit.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I mean, he's also very open about the fact that,
hey man, I'd rather be a Hall of Famer than
a super Bowl champion. Like he's not like there's no
no shame whatsoever. Like he's he's proud of it. He
owns that. I just I wonder if Belichick would would
sign up for a deal like that or a situation
like that, because it is a nice gesture, and it's
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pretty cool that Sean Payton would even offer that up.
Those guys on the same staff would be would be
fun as well too, So who knows, maybe Belichick will
be back at some point and North Carolina opens up
in Ireland, I believe this year.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So we got that the boy parcels under the bus though,
huh the big tune the off under her sires.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Yeah,
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We got the numbers that are in and it seems
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also got the very latest when it comes to the
Lebron James Sweepstakes, one team apparently making moves to try
and set it all up. Joey McGuire's trying to explain
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Knox of the Air, Charles seven dust Man.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I mean Pepper was was way better.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I can't remember the name of the band, but yeah,
that was a much better song.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Listen, man, your professionalism on this show is already in question.
We don't need to start off.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh wow, enough's enough here and once again we're opening
up the show.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
With this. I'll see next segment.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What's up free You don't even know what we've gotten
to yet. Save the surprise for the listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean, okay, So.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
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Paid for by the Department of Onland Security. Speaking of
the World Cup, here are the scores from yesterday. Argentina
over Egypt three to two. Was Switzerland over Colombia four
to three on penalties. Yeah, all right, leave that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
There's a number of people who are surprised by that
outcome and also disappointed, the most of the cameraman for
Fox apparently.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So, yeah, Columbia's brought out the big guns man yesterday.
They're not messing up. What do you mean not messing
around exactly?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did they pay around for the crowd this time? Hey man?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah. They've they've done well for themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
There's times where I think the cameraman gets stuck just geez, like.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Hey, I'm gonna just stay here for a little bit.
Huh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And by Jonah said this yesterday, one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
They'll show like celebrities at the USA Games when they
go to some of each other teams though it is
just straight who that camera guy thinks is hot.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
They just they just stay there.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
They don't care what politician or celebrity from that country
is there, Like they don't Like you're watching Spain, you
don't see Harvey Javier bar Dam there, you don't see
you know, anybody that's a that's a well known actor
or actress from you see the Rocket Ships Center in
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Wow, Ryan's firstky today. Huh wow, that is uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But listen man, speaking of the World Cup, I know
that there it was a downside when it comes to there.
There was a lot of downside when it came to
the US losing to Belgium. But if you're gonna get
your ass beat and you're gonna get just buried the
way they did for ninety plus minutes on the pitch,
(04:02):
as they call it, at least you did it in
front of record numbers, because we're looking at what over
thirty million people tuned in to watch the US get
stomped out by Belgium. I believe thirty eight million at
its total, and it's the most watched soccer game US
(04:27):
soccer game in the history of US soccer. And at least,
well mean, at least if you're going to set a record,
give them everything, and boy do we get it, which
seems to me like it might be a problem moving
forward if that many people. It would almost been better
(04:48):
if you got half the audience to witness that. But
you know, good for Fox, good for good for all
the broadcasting partners, the advertisements, but not great look for
US soccer based on those numbers.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Somebody compare the US soccer team to James Franklin and
Penn State and big games, and I was so offended.
I was so taken aback. I just couldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't know. I just said, you know, I saw that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I think that The tweet was the US men's
national team did so bad that somehow like James Franklin
started trending on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
That's crazy. That is crazy. Man.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You can say a lot of things about James Franklin,
don't ever compare him to the US men's soccer team.
That's how bad that was.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I was actually gonna say, he's got a much better
track record of next month than the national team.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, they've they don't look I know that that. There's
a lot of blame going around. There's a lot of
jokes being made. I believe there's a Texas Tech joke
that was thrown in there as well too, on the
Reddit college Football social media page.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I just.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I don't know where you go from here other than
and I would imagine the tickets are dropping, Like at
the ticket prices are all dropping. I haven't checked since yesterday,
but the ticket price is for the SOFI game now
that it's not the US and it's Spain versus Belgium,
all those ticket prices, so I know that you wanted
to keep show.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I feel an opportunity for you, buddy, Like this is
like where you take answer to it came and you know, I.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Don't want to deal with SOFI. I mean it's temping.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's gonna be cheap, though it's gonna be really cheap.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Although they're not calling it Sofi. They're calling it a
Los Angeles stadium, according to Rob Stone, who's quick to
point that out. So I just if you're US soccer,
maybe there's some momentum, maybe you've gotten more people into
the sport over this brief run. But that display in
(07:02):
front of that many people, I just can't imagine is
gonna Uh, it's going to lead to a lot of
a lot of people picking up a soccer ball and going,
you know what, I want to be a part of this,
Like I think we do well for themselves. So I
don't know where you guys stand on it. What about you?
Of are I could care? Lest It's just what's I mean?
(07:24):
Can't you just support your country?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes? God said, do you support my country? What do
you mean.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
They need your help. No, I can't help them. Man,
come on, you're I mean you've you've given help give
birth to uh phenomenal athletes. I mean, you've got a
stud at Penn State, You've got stut athletes that are
that you are related to you, You're round stud athletes
all the time. Can't you push one or two of
them into the soccer world so they don't get put
(07:52):
in a clown suit against Belgium years down the road.
We got to help this cause they all played soccer
and what happened they started playing something else. So it
really is whoever couldn't make it in those other sports?
You just it's all the leftovers to go to it.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, look, if we want to get into the
nitty gritty of why a lot of people feel like
and I'm not sure if you saw this, they were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The model in Europe versus the model in the US.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The model in the US is a payer model, meaning
if you want your kids to being a good soccer club,
you want them to have the best chance for the
best coaching and play the best competition. The e CNL,
all this stuff you're paying like, you're paying out of pocket.
For this if you look at how it works, and
by the way, it's not cheap. If you look at
how it works in Europe, when they have one of
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these young men or women, you know, as they go
up and they make these teams, the professional league pays
back down through the club, so it hits everywhere that
player had been and so the cost of the parent
is an big which means the barriers to entry aren't
(09:03):
as hard or harness high. So you can have a
much greater population going in to go play a sport
because they're not prohibited by the cost.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And so then you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Look at how that impacts the clubs too, and they're
all in alignment because if you are able to have
the best players, develop the best players, and send them
off into the pro game, it ends up paying you back.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And that's like a true development model.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What happens in the US with their model of club
soccer is you have all these parents paying, and then
what happens with the club is because they are trying
to make money, they're trying to stay afloat, they don't
have this incentive to send these kids up to the pro.
They get these big paydays that help fund the club.
(09:49):
They end up keeping on kids you should be on there,
because they got to keep the lights on and they
got to pay the bills. And so instead of working
and developing towards the best, you actually end up hurting
some of those best players because you've got them playing
with lesser players because those players are just payers. They're
not legitimately ever going to be able to make it
(10:10):
or anything. But their kids have that dream of, as
Pete Priscoe talked about yesterday, they have that dream of
being able to one day go off and you know,
play a professional sport, play in soccer in this case.
So there's a lot of issues, but just even the
structure of the United States and how it works for
kids to get to the most elite coaching and games
(10:32):
and practice everything else. It's a restrictive model, man, And
so for forget whether or not athletes are actually picking
to go play the sport of soccer, even if they
wanted to. It's so damn expensive, the commitments difficult. I mean,
you've it's hard. I mean, look, I've got three girls
from in it right now. I mean it's hard today
(10:53):
is for two parents to be able to share it. So
I'm just saying it is not a sport that, based
on its current to me, is ever going to grow.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
In this country. What's the what's the most affordable sport?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Basketball?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Is it basketball?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, and that's basketball, So, I mean, and that's
considering leagues and all the other tournaments.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And then once you get into that, there's there's two
ways of looking at it. Are you investing in your
kid being on a travel squad because you want them
to have the experience, or are you investing in them
because you can see the potential of their development within
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the sport, whether it's multiple sports.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I mean I had heck, I travel.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You traveled for basketball if you were good, obviously travel teams,
you travel abroad. Soccer is the same way. It's just
you have I guess in a lot of ways, you
could compare soccer to basketball because you have in door
season you have you know, outdoor you know, blacktop season
for basketball, and you have outdoor for soccer, you know,
(12:08):
and volleyball you have sand, you have indoor, you have
court volleyball football you don't. Actually football became a travel
deal as well because of seven on seven. So there
is a lot of expenses connected to kind of every sport.
But if you were to say, okay, this is local,
(12:32):
we want to take them to the local YMCA or
to the local you know, whatever it may be, mortars,
whatever it may be, to participate, it's probably basketball, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Because what I mean, as the kid gets older, you're
buying shoes and that's it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, well, and think about it.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I would go as far as saying, that's like even
for the sports like football, for example, you know, they
provide helmets, shoulder pads on this stuff. That's not as
expensive as some may think. And the reality is everyone
kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Goes and plays.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If we're just talking about tackle, I'm not talking about
seven on seven flag football.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That dismissive tone when it comes to seven on seven
flag football stuff, Why can't you I just.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You know, it's not it's not football for me, So
I'm sorry, that's just not football.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, LeVar, is it football? It's not football? You
know why. Here's exactly why it's not football.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Because you don't have linemen and lineman ultimately dictate games
because you need big men, the guys who are actually
doing all the work up front.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's the truth.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like, that's poor of the reason why I can't call
it football because you don't actually have the biggest, most
talented people. And anyone can argue with me all they want,
but go up to any man that you walk in
front of today and say I'm going to try to
move you against your will and tell.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Me that's not a skill.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So that's one of the things that I hate most
about the conversation around seven on seven to flag.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, it's not football, it's not called something different.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I digress the like if you if you actually look
at the tackle football the youth levels, it's not that
expensive either.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now you can get off into.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Like these different you know, travel leagues, et cetera, all
that stuff, but you will find great coaching at those levels,
and you will find everyone feed to those levels and
you can sell at an early age. And again I'm
sure lev Ar, can you know attest to this. You
see kids who are really good, like right away, and
then people started kind of developing and feeding and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, it happens.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's but again, compared to soccer where you are bred,
this idea that you know, these rec leagues for that
sport aren't good enough. You have to go to club
you have any shot. That's where the best coaching art,
that's where the best players are, the best fields, et cetera.
And if you don't go there, there's no chance of
getting there. There's plenty of kids you play in, you know,
a wreck tackle football league, that have all the resources.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They need to be able to get to the NFL
one day. Hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I can't believe how expensive baseball is. Some of the equipment,
like gloves, bats, I.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Can only imagine to what I mean, you have to
be going to like a secondhand store, aren't you secondhand store? No, God,
there's there's no.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why we're watching those glove repair videos. Yeah, yes,
that's exactly what it is. We pulled it off a
scrap you. I took it off a bum who stole
it off a construction site, and we just went with that.
But it's I mean, just to even be a part
of a league, and it's not even there's no like
my son's five years old. There's no travel league, there's no,
(15:37):
it's nothing like that we're even looking at. But even
be a part of a league, the fee that goes
along with it, uh, the the equipment as they get older, cleats,
all of it. You're paying for jerseys, you're paying like
it's pricey, man. And so there were a lot of
parents that were going to secondhand stores to get gloves
and things like that because all of that stuff added up,
and I can't imagine what it is like to have
(16:00):
two or three or four kids that are that are
going at it at the same time. You're just quadrupling
the price for all that. So yeah, it's but when
you think about it, basketball, yeah, we really just is shoes.
Like you're worried about shoes, and you know, if you
need practice you can go find an outdoor hoop somewhere.
And as the kid gets older, you can.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do that with soccer, and you can do that with
you know, other other sports. It's just again not I
think for me, it's it's the amount of the workload
that that you're going to have in terms of the travel.
If you got one kid, like you guys mentioned, if
you got one kid, it's probably any sport in theory
(16:41):
outside of maybe they say lacrosse and in hockey, Oh,
hockey's ridiculous outside of those outside of those, and I
would probably assume that maybe maybe lacrosse is a little
bit more affordable these days as well.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, you got to stick a few balls of cleats, man.
I mean until you get to all the gear and
all that, you.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Still got it. Yeah, like once you get to the
gear part.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
But anyway, the point I'm making is that it really
does come down to the ability to travel, Like if
you have the resources to be able to travel, because
it's one thing to send your kids on trips. And again,
if your kid isn't an elite kid, chances are you
(17:27):
got to be there with your kid. Like, nobody wants
to babysit your kid. So unless you're with an elite
team where they're okay with taking the kids and they
pay for the trip and whatever, it may be, more
often than not you have to be on these trips
with your kids. And for some strange reason, it's funny
(17:49):
because they know. I'll tell you who really gets you, though,
and they get you, get you.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's cheerleading. They get you, man, they get you.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I'm telling you, every time you turn around, I'll be
looking at some of these events and God bless I
know some of the people that own the franchises and
run it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So I'm not trying to like rain on their parade.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Some of these joints, you be you pull up into
it and you look at and you be like, really like, really,
this is where, this is where we're at. You're telling
me we got to be out in Orange County all
day for this. Oh you're telling me we gotta fly
all the way to Florida for this. Really, this is
what you did.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
This is what the winners this is what like, this
is winners circle. This is what it is. Huh.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I mean, I will say, she chairs up Penn State
now and she's we're the only national champion we have
in our family. She's a three time national champion. But
you know that's that's that's that one wears you down.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I remember LeVar telling me, he goes, hey, man, you'll
see if your son gets older anyone to play. Your
vacations are where he travels to for games and turn
that's vacation, he goes. That's that's what comes along with it,
because you realize they get you all year round, and
you're always on the go fall ball.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
They get you all year.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Round, so it doesn't stop. There's no off season.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
And you don't want your kids to not be active.
So you find a way. I mean, even if you
have money, like if you have money and have resources.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's it's a lot. It's a lot to juggle. Man.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And back to the original point and how this relates
to the US men's national team. I thought this was
there's just so much competition for other sports, like I
don't I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Let's say they get to the round of eight.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Let's say they win against Belgium, the one they're not
beat in Spain.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, I mean, that's that's pretty evident.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
But it's just to me, there's competition and so many
other sports, and to sit there and try to dismiss
the fact that, like, hey, some of our best and
brightest aren't playing well, it's true. And look we've got
there's a young young man named Cavin Sullivan. He's out
of PA He is looking to be like that next star,
but he's only fifteen and so he's not quite there yet,
(20:11):
but like he's on his way, and could he be
one player who turns that tie potentially, like he could
become at least how he currently looks at fifteen, he
could become that next I don't know, Holland Messi.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is someone along those those lines, that's how good he
is at this age.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I believe he's in man US Manchester United's like youth
you know program kind of coming up whatever. He's already
sign a contract everything else when he turns eighteen, So
like there's some there's some hope, and there's his hope
in the next World Cup, like he would be a
part of that national team.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But that's one player, and there's just there's not enough.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And I do feel like if you looked at any
other European country, you're probably saying, right, it's soccer, and
then what basketball? Maybe, I mean there's really not competition
for a lot of the best athletes here. I mean,
you've got a litany of things you could pick from.
And if you look at our biggest sport, football, and
(21:09):
then you look at some of the other biggest sports
around at least you know the Big three, you know
it's baseball or basketball or whatever else, Yeah, our talent
pool is depleted. And so everyone making excuse for US
men's soccer saying, well, you know, it's not just about this,
it's no, it is about that. Like at a youth
sports level, there are kids being pulled away from it
(21:30):
and honestly, I would go even a step further. Forget
about the expense for a second. It's not as fun
like they make it, almost in some ways so serious.
For like, the the creative athletic development of some of
these kids never really happens because they do force them
to be so singular and thought in their approach.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
They don't allow for a kid to be a multi
sport athlete.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And maybe they say, look, you can't become what a
Cabin Sullivan, for example, is unless you are that focused
and detailed into it. My argument would be, well, maybe
for that kid that's how it works, but not for
all of them.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Like I looked at a young LeVar Arrington yesterday.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That dude, I'd put him in any sport and I
bet he would be phenomenal in any sport.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, so I don't need.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To sit here and we can say, oh, well, that's
it's not just about no, it is about the talent pool.
Like we are distracted by other sports too. It's not
like our singular focus is soccer like it is in
other countries. I mean, go look at the turnout for
these for these these other games in these other countries,
and what it looks like for their fan base, it's
not the same for us.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like it's just it's just not and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But let's be honest about it, Like it's not our
number one sporting priority. If it was, it would probably
look a lot different. And like, dare I compare it
to Basketball's dream team. But let's just be real, Like,
if we took the greatest you know, group of athletes
for a four year period of time we could ever
see and put them in.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Soccer, we'd probably kick everyone's butt. That that's just that's
just how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Then you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Our best athletes
do not play soccer. I mean, that's just the reality
of it.
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way tire buying should be. That's got to be an
awful feeling, just awful voice gives out, just takes a
crap right in the middle of trying to give that
epic goal call. You know, he's used to it, his
voice giving out like that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, I don't. I mean, how do he soccer matches?
Does it do a year? You don't think that happens
more than once.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I've never heard him like that though, Like he's always
pretty solid on his goal calls.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You listen to his goal calls. It's just an every
night thing for you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, Lorena, what's it? You got?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I still have your goal call?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Whoa?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
That wasn't even that great?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well can we hear it though, because there wasn't a
crack in this one, was there?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Don't said anything like me?
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Yeah, this one is, this is the initial goal thing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That one sounds good though, That didn't sound like his
voice is given out there.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He sounds strong.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, he sounds good, stinging from the diaphragm.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That last one he.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Must That's an awful feeling, just just terrible. Well, I
mean it's self inflicted, isn't it. I mean, now I
got yours ready, let's hear it?
Speaker 7 (28:31):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Put him no, No, keep going, keep going, hold it, hold.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It, hold it.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He's about to pass out. That was really good. That's
really good. That's up.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's a difficult spot, man. You know, he's uh, he's
he's trying to fight through all the all the pain
and the discomfort to try and land that call. And
it was an incredible game to where Egypt was up
to nothing. I got to the seventy eighth minute and
Argentina somehow rallied ended up winning an extra time, which
is two games in a row that you look at
(29:46):
and go many they maybe should have lost both of those,
and they end up pulling it out here as they're
trying to go back to back when the World Cups
this time around. But Messi's unbelievable, man, like he'ing. That
was a game that which he got a he got
stopped than in a penalty shay.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Which a lot of people are breaking down because because
did he do the stutter step or he didn't do
the stutter step?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I thought he did a brief one.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
But right, everyone's everyone's making a big deal about this
whole stutter step thing, which I don't know why these
guys just don't go up there.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And blast it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I mean when another thing I would say, not to
be like critical of some of the games, but can
you just show from behind the goal or behind the
player kicking, like the side angle of it never gives
it the true like does it justice for how close
it is, But then how big some of these goalies
(30:39):
are and how small the goal feels like. I just
I feel like when you get that from right behind
the kicker before he goes, it adds to it. It
makes it look so much more intense because you're like, damn,
it is close. But I could you can also see
how like you could airmail one if you're trying to
kick it too hard, or like why a goalie could
stop it. But the general point is these guys are
(31:01):
so powerful.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know that these goals can really even if
they guess right, like could still stop it based on
where they can put it, like close to the bar
on either side.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
That's why I was watching the one yesterday with Columbia,
and the goalkeepers didn't look stressed out at all. The
guys who had to actually do the kicking look like
they were concerned. Like one of the guys for Switzerland,
I guess it missed in the euro Championship and then
missed in that one as well too. It looked like
he was about to cry. The goalkeepers are like, listen, man,
(31:33):
everything's against us. If we can stop it, cool, that's awesome.
But the expectation is we're going to give up a
goal here. It's just it's too big of a net
for them to be able to make up that much
ground and you have to either guess right, and then
even a couple of times yesterday they did guess right,
ball still got by. So I just I look at
the goalkeepers. There's zero pressure. It feels like on the goalkeepers,
(31:54):
like the expectation is you're not going to stop them.
We realize you're up against it. But for the guys
who've got to actually like execute the kick, those they
feel like they're wearing it a little bit when they're
out there. It's fun though, man, it's exciting as hell.
What is the pks? Oh yeah, when you go to
in soccer at the end, you do a pencas.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I love how the World Cup is such a big
deal for Fox Sports. LeVar is just like, nope, I'm
good I'm just gonna sit this one out. You guys
go ahead and handle this.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Can't do it all like it's not very often too.
I can't here.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We've got like a company of wide email to like
promote and talk about and obviously, you know, throughout the
course of the show we give updates on this and
what happened last night. But I've just seen like there
hasn't been many things where that's actually been sent out
and this is one of the LeVar is just like, no,
I'm good man, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, it's to watch Love Island. Here's what I say.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
This is the beauty of having a three man show
is that I can sit this one out. You know,
there's two more left and then and and your voices
are valued. So now me man, I'll mix it up
in any topic like that, that's good. I'm the can man.
I just topic can get it good. I'd just like
(33:12):
to contribute on a very very passive approach on on
this one in particular, that's all.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And by the way, for people that are wondering, we
have tried, like we have we have pulled every angle,
uh that we possibly could to try and get Lebari
No got me into talking about traveling and stuff like that.
I got involved.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, I got involved.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
We I got involved with the goal.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I got involved with goal.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
We tried to h like we've set you know, some
of the different fan bases and crowd shots, which, by
the way, some of those are AI like it. They're
not even Some of this AI that they're trying to
show you isn't even good Like I figured. I thought
we would progress to a point to where it'd be questioned, well,
they're showing fans and the stands going on kind of
I'm kind of.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Out of a I by the way, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It's just, you know, everyone's trying to hype it up,
but just you know, you can't replace humans, can't You
can't replace Patty and Lorraina.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I think people are starting to realize that too. Some
company had a bunch of layoffs and then they realized
they're like, oh, it's not as we're not as effective
as we thought.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
We're gonna hire all these people back, so something about good.
I'm glad they and and I hope the people hire back.
Ask for a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Well, be careful there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think part of the issue too was a I
wasn't as effective, but also it's it's super expensive, you know,
for all.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
These AI agents.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So yeah, anyway, yeah, well not nothing, get off on
a tangent. Just trying to get far back in the picture,
you know, just trying.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
To love AI conversations. Now I'm on AI right now
and we're speaking.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, what's how many goals?
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Is?
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Think about the World Cup? I wasn't looking up the
World Cup. Sorry, wasn't wasting my credits on that, Like
it's a jukebox. Yeah, put in timbos, not wasting on
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Guys, in case you missed this. There was another Wickersham
classic that came out yesterday. Seth Wickersham, a ESPN who
writes these novels breaking down all sorts of stuff. He
broke down the Seattle Seahawks and their run, you know,
back in the twenty thirteen, fourteen fifteen era. He broke
(36:55):
down the Tom Brady, Jimmy Garoppolo, Bill Belichick dynamic years
and years ago. He's done a lot of these. His
latest piece was on Sean Payton and the run in
the postseason for the Denver Broncos, and just sort of
detailed going through the entire playoff game by game preparation,
(37:15):
finding out that bo Nicks was out and injured and
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and mutual trauma from working under Bill Parcells. When Belichick
and the Patriots divorced in twenty twenty four, Sean Payton
considered presenting Broncos owner Greg Penner a proposal for the
Ages hire Bill Belichick as head coach until he reached
fifteen wins enough to break Don Shula's career record of
three forty seven. Peyton would temporarily step down to assistant
(37:58):
head coach and run the offense, then move back after
Belichick became the all time leader. In the end, it
was too complicated and maybe too fanciful. Is there any
possibility that Belichick would have signed up for that? Like,
that's like, it seems like somebody who enjoys the tradition
of the game.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So let me answer by saying yes, and then point
out that he's coaching at North Carolina right now.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
So what makes you think he wouldn't sign up for that?
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Because it would feel like it's too gimmicky.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It just feels like you're gonna have Sean Payton step
down so I can get a bunch of wins and
then come back on after I get those wins, and
we're gonna just.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Wark tell me, Tell me who it doesn't work for.
It worked for the Broncos, obviously. If they're winning and
he's your head coach, he accomplishes his goal. The team
accomplishes their goal and then you know at some point
in time he's gonna step down and give it his
age and all that. You'd have to have a secession
plan in place anyway, right, Like it's not like you
wouldn't want to have a coach in waiting on Bill
(39:04):
Belichick's staff, So all that kind of lines up and
makes sense.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Honestly, I think at the root of it, it's a
kind gesture. Oh yeah, and that you know it, It
exposes something beautiful about the camaraderie and the relationships that
exists within the football world. You know, Sean Payton, That's
that's a solid, solid idea solid move to try to
(39:29):
honor somebody who has meant so much to the game.
So that's that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How I looked at it and what And you know,
sticking to Don shul at the same time as Walter,
you're not really sticking it to Don Shulo. Belichick and
Schuler didn't have the great.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Have a great relationship.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, it's also for all the players for constantly celebrating
the demise if everyone else gets close to an undefeated season,
Like I'm kind of tired of that, Like catch a
root for someone else to also be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So you have some company there.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm with you, and it is interesting that nobody else
has been able to do it. There's two there's two
sore winners on that that them the Miami Dolphins toasting
up every single time there's no undefeated's Eric Dickerson when
when somebody gets close to his record and can't quite
get it, I do not want you to get my record.
Speaker 7 (40:17):
He loves it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
He does not shy away from it, not one bit.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I mean, he's also very open about the fact that,
hey man, I'd rather be a Hall of Famer than
a super Bowl champion. Like he's not like there's no
no shame whatsoever. Like he's he's proud of it. He
owns that. I just I wonder if Belichick would would
sign up for a deal like that or a situation
like that, because it is a nice gesture, and it's
(40:41):
pretty cool that Sean Payton would even offer that up.
Those guys on the same staff would be would be
fun as well too, So who knows, maybe Belichick will
be back at some point and North Carolina opens up
in Ireland, I believe this year.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So we got that the boy parcels under the bus though,
huh the big tune the off under her sires.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
Yeah,
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