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January 13, 2021 66 mins

Clay Travis tees off on a CBS writer and website who spread fear-porn. Will the writer retract the college athlete Covid death "facts" that were in his article? Clay brings in the crew and callers from around the nation to weigh-in. FOX's Shannon Spake joins Outkick and talks about the success of finishing both the college and NFL seasons, a lost year for some kids in school, and more. Clay welcomes in the first Animal Thunderdome report of 2021, which features a husband who did something that he can hold over his wife's head for years. Plus, Outkick.com's Joe Kinsey is in the house to talk about his Buckeyes getting torched, Paulina Gretsky mania, the Browns chances in KC, Bills fans fighting wild, Hooter's waitresses and more.

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(00:22):
Sports Radio. You remember when we were doing this show
every single day and sports weren't going on, and I
was fighting as hard as I possibly could for sports
to happen. Shouldn't CBS Sports apologize to its readers for
saying for running an expert on their website who says, quote,

(00:46):
I guarantee someone is going to die. I mean, that's
an unbelievable quote that echoed throughout the entire ranks of
college football. And it wasn't just college football, by the way.
Uh there he Eventually this guy moved on to saying
that coaches are gonna die too, and obviously that has

(01:08):
not yet happened, and uh and and so he moved
on to then predicting in December, this same guy that
college basketball coaches. Somebody in college basketball was going to
die if they ended up playing the season. So this
is absolutely insane, and people came at me sharing this

(01:32):
story wildly. In late June, all of the conference commissioners
were under siege because of this story. Greg Sanky what
was quoted as saying, they shamed the effort for trying.
I think we did a lot right. Uh did you
make the right decision? Absolutely, COVID stayed Uh, people said

(01:58):
stayed healthy. COVID hasn't spread in games eight seven, seven, nine, six,
three six nine. Why did CBS Sports get it so wrong?
And why are they having an expert in quotation Marks
who ended up being a wrong who guaranteed a player
would die and has since moved on to basically guaranteeing

(02:22):
a college basketball coach would die, even though the data
that he's using is wildly out of sorts and so
far hasn't been remotely true. What do you think about this,
Danny G. Should CBS Sports apologize for running this guy
as an expert who guaranteed a player would die and

(02:44):
set off fear porn alarm everywhere and said three to
seven players would die, And now he's saying a college
basketball coach is gonna die when it's clearly not happening.
I mean, I wouldn't expect them to. This reminds me
of the girl that I was dating at the start
of twenty twenty. She told me I was nuts for
driving into the studios every day. We were all gonna die.

(03:05):
We should all stay at home. We wound up breaking
up over the whole COVID thing. Now, she would never
ever come around right now and say, oh my bad,
you were able to work. Yeah, I'm alive. You went
to work every day with no issues. Oops. She's not
gonna say that. Neither is the CBS writer uh and

(03:26):
the CBS or the editors and everybody else. What about you,
dub I mean, when you published an article as your
feature story on the website guaranteeing that a player was
going to die now that the season over is over
and saying, by the way, three to seven players would
die if they played FBS football based on the data.
And now this guy has moved on to say in

(03:47):
a college basketball coach is gonna die. Shouldn't you have
to be accountable to your audience when you get something
that wrong and feature and quote unquote expert this significantly.
And by the way, I think the University of Illinois
should be asking why in the world they're employing a
computer computer science analysts who is getting things this wrong
and impacting things this negatively in the country. Yeah, guaranteeing

(04:10):
death is a pretty aggressive stance. I guarantee someone will
die if you play college football, that's the quote. Yeah.
And then to double down on the college basketball season
in terms of coaches as another aggressive move. And I
mean it's pretty it's irresponsible because there's no data to
back it up. You've mentioned this, uh statistic before in
the past. There hasn't been one case of COVID transferred

(04:34):
during the playing of athletics in the entire world that
we know of. In the entire world. It's insane. That's
from the NFL head, you know, doctor person So Dr
als Sills, Yeah, absolutely so, I mean this stands. And
then to double down I think it is just it's
honestly just mind blowing. What about you, Eddie, Uh do
you think an organization like CBS Sports which published this

(04:58):
again the quote, I guarantee someone is going to die
and then he said, I just I don't want to
sugarcoat it for you. I just want to give you
the facts as if his opinion, which is totally wrong,
that three to seven FBS players would die, was in

(05:19):
some way justified. And by the way, the other thing
that is a huge fallacy here. Logically, playing football did
not in any way, in my mind, make it more
likely that people were going to get COVID. People just
like turned off their brains for this entire COVID discussion
in the world of sports, all of these athletes were

(05:41):
probably more likely to get COVID if they were regular
students or if they were off the campus. Then they
were as athletes getting tested every single day just about
to try and keep them from being spreading this virus, right,
I mean, it's it's kind of crazy the the game

(06:03):
itself wasn't going to cause any death, even under this
computer science analyst data, which was wrong. It's just that
they could have gotten this just as easily as regular students.
It's not like regular students didn't get COVID. And by
the way, it's not like kids who aren't college students,

(06:25):
you know, nineteen twenty year olds who are working and
decided not to go to school have avoided getting this.
Football being a cause of spread is actually been proven
statistically to not exist in terms of games, Eddie, what
do you think CBS Sports dot com should do having

(06:47):
published this fear porn article guaranteeing death now that the
season is complete and none of that happened. Well, it
is ironic that you'll have people like CBS Sports and
others who will demand apologies from an athlete because of
a tweet from five years ago. Am, But they won't
apologize for putting something out there that is wildly you know,

(07:10):
irresponsible and not really paste any fact. They could always
fall back on, well, we were just doing the interview
and this is the you know, the person who gave
us the information. Maybe he's the one who should apologize,
But the reason they picked him is because of that headline.
Like if they if they had talked to twenty different
experts and nineteen of them had said I think there's
probably a way to do it safe, they would have

(07:32):
taken the guy as to quote who guaranteed that someone
was going to die. I don't disagree with that at all.
I I would agree with what Danny said though, in
that I would be more shocked if they did apologize
than than you know, expecting an apology. I just would
be very surprised that it's it's a good point. By
the way that the same website and by the way,

(07:54):
you said five year old tweets, I mean that they're
running articles about what kids said when they were thirteen
years old than fourteen years old on their Twitter accounts
and demanding that they be held accountable for them. I mean,
how dare you at thirteen or fourteen year old quo
quote rap lyrics on your Twitter account? Oh, it's offensive
what you did? You need to apologize. And yet they

(08:15):
say that guarantee, they run an expert who guarantees that
if college football is played, at least one player will
die and three to seven uh players overall. And by
the way, this terrified everybody in the world of college
athletics because they were like, oh my god, if we
play sports, people are gonna die. It's gonna be our fault.
Didn't happen, didn't even come close to happening. I'm not

(08:37):
even sure that there was a single serious case of
COVID among players or coaches in the entirety of FBS
football this fall, Like, not even did no one die?
I'm not even sure if anybody was hospitalized with a
serious case of COVID among players or coaches in the
entirety of the league, even with the people who tested

(08:59):
pause it. What do you think Roberto Cbs should not
to fight? These uh coaches are in danger of dying? Now, yeah,
that college the guy just keeps Now, the college basketball
coach is gonna die. You whipped completely on all your
predictions having to do with college athletics, and now you've
moved on to college basketball because the college football season

(09:20):
is ended safely. Crazy guys like that, like Danny said,
they like to expect him to apologize. No, that's not
gonna happen, not like me. All right. By the way,
the writer of this piece was Dennis Dodd, and if
he had any uh any honesty at all with his audience,
he would write a piece acknowledging that the fear porn
he published and the expert that he quoted is an imbecile.

(09:42):
And the season was played safely, and he got it wrong,
and he almost helped to make the season not happen
with his failures. I mean, honestly, that's what he should do,
all right. We got a bunch of people who went
to weigh in eight seven seven nine six three six nine.
Let's go to the out kick v I P line first.
If you care, by the way, about the First Amendment

(10:03):
being protected the marketplace of ideas existing, you need to
go sign up and be an OutKick v I P
OutKick dot com slash v I P. That's OutKick dot
com slash v I P. Danny g is at Corey. Yeah,
he says it's his first time using the v I
P line. Corey in Ohio, Corey, what you got for me?
Thanks for man, Hey, Clay, I got to give a

(10:24):
shout out to the mother in law clutch Christmas gift
with the OutKick v I P. Great, that's a great
mother in law move. Yes, well it was. And you
know what, if they're coming in at a hundred bucks.
I think most most mother in law especially butter them
up with them grandkids, they will come through with a
hundred dollar gifts. The gift that keeps on giving. Hey, Uh,
as a teacher, as as a veteran, you know, uh,

(10:46):
we know that that motivation keeps young people, it keeps
people later in life fired up. Uh, it keeps them
doing what they need to do. Will anyone ever do
an article about live young lives that we're saved even
because because we had sports, and is it more likely
that CBS and these articles keep doubling down on someone's

(11:07):
gonna die and then heaven forbid it happen. And then
they use that as confirmation bias to say, hey, we
told you football, and then we were just wrong a
couple of seasons, and now they kind of triple down
on that statement. So I'll hop off and listen. Appreciate
the time, brother, Thank you for being both a veteran
and a teacher. Those are two of the most selfless

(11:28):
professions you can adopt and embrace anywhere in the country.
I think your point is well taken there. I mean,
that's why I've been beating this drum so hard. I mean,
a lot of kids didn't get to play high school
sports in the fall, and they may not get to
play high school sports in the spring. Go back to
when you were a kid, it might have been you.

(11:48):
I guarantee it was one of your friends. If it
wasn't you, how many people do you know that graduated
from high school maybe even went to college because of sports.
That was what kept them in school, that was why
they got up and went in and made it in
for seven thirty am class. That was why they kept

(12:11):
decent grades. It's why they did their homework. And think
about all the kids that we are losing right now
because schools are still not open and sports are still
not happening. Many of those kids I mean who have
not been in physical school now approaching a full year,
are never going to be able to catch up for

(12:33):
the year that they lost. I mean, we sent kids
home for no reason. By the way, the data doesn't
reflect that we should have ever shut down schools in March,
and there are many of you listening to me out
there right now whose kids are still remote as we
approach February. Now sinsanity. It is absolute insanity. And sports

(12:57):
are a part of that. And the reason why these
kids are not in school is because of idiot articles
like the one CBS sports dot Com published, Because make
no mistake, if you can play sports, it means that
you can be in school for many places right sports
is a litmus test for safety and much of this country,

(13:21):
and the fact that we allowed stories like these where
they had experts on who guaranteed deaths, it's set in
motion the perspective that it was impossible to be in
school and that it was impossible to play sports. We
got a lot of people, I think, who want to
weigh in, dub Who's up next? Yeah, we sure do.

(13:41):
Reggie in New York, Reggie, what do you think? I'm
a huge fan. Your first caller pretty much said what
I wanted to say. You know, these guys are gonna
keep beating this drum, beating this drum, and then you know,
God forbid, someday they're going to be right and they're
gonna be like see, I told you so. I think
it just really speaks towards the media is whole and

(14:02):
the fear and how they want to keep people scared
in control. Thank you for the call. You're right that
eventually there may be somebody who gets sick and dies.
It's not gonna happen in college football, though, now that
the season is complete, we one hundred percent know that
this guy at CBS sports dot com who guaranteed to

(14:25):
death like he was Joe Namath and then said three
to seven football players were going to die, he's wrong.
It didn't happen. To my knowledge. There wasn't even a
single FBS football player who was remotely seriously ill, not
a coach, none of them, And so he's wrong. And

(14:49):
now he's moved on to saying, oh, a college basketball
coach is gonna die. Well, we're into mid January. We've
been playing college basketball for two months. Have you guys
out there heard of a college basketball coach there? You know,
probably a thousand of them, right, if you consider how
big do you one basketball is, we got well over

(15:11):
a thousand, well over a thousand college basketball coaches. I
haven't heard of anybody having serious health related issues. Certainly
no players have. And so come April, when we finished
the college basketball season in the final four, I think
the odds are that he's gonna be wrong there. I
hope he is. If he's not, you're right, though, if

(15:32):
there's one person that gets sick, even if it has
nothing to do with the college basketball season, because remember,
all these coaches have outside of basketball lives. That's the
big fallacy of this argument, Over and above the idea
that somebody was gonna die. The fallacy was that you
weren't going to get sick and die if football didn't exist.

(15:55):
If anything, I think these guys would have been under
more danger without football because they're not getting tested as frequently.
They're back home, they don't know if they've got it.
Who's up next? We got Kevin in Florida. Kevin, what's
you guy for me? Hey? What clay Man? I really
love this show. First off, I appreciate that it's nice

(16:15):
to go to a place or have some place to
go where you can actually get some truth these days.
I know that feeling. Trust me. Um, I just want
to say, like, this is exactly what happens when you
let nerves named Sheldon comment on football. Seriously, like what
what Leonard wasn't available? I'm going to have advice from Penny. Uh. Yeah,

(16:40):
this this this guy University of Iowa, sorry, University of
Illinois computer science professor Dr Sheldon Jacobson uh and Joe Kinzie.
We'll talk about this with him. He's the one who
wrote this for out kick. Uh. He said, I guarantee
someone is going to die and then said three to
seven people at the FBS level will die. I uh

(17:00):
and CBS Sports ran with him. They didn't actually look
at the data and say, you know what, this is
actually really unlikely to happen. They had this nerd who
had no idea what he was talking about and probably
wanted to get a ton of attention. And now he's
moved on to saying that a college basketball coach is
going to die. That's where he is, um and and

(17:22):
the quote is uh is uh you know, among the
sixty five Power five conference men's teams, nine coaches or
sixty five or older thirty four between overall the case
fatality rate. Uh, somebody's gonna die. Somebody's gonna die in
college basketball. Who's up next? Up? We got Dan in Texas,
Dan fire away morning, Clay, and I just wanted to

(17:45):
lego sports, appreciate you every morning, you right with me
to work. Uh and you you and your whole team.
I really just wanted to say that, uh you know, uh,
not only is Nick Saban national champion of college football,
but really he's a geriatric that I believe he recovered
from COVID twite. He's the national champion of recovery. That's

(18:09):
all I got. Thanks. He was breaking up there a
little bit. Who did he say, oh, Nick Saban? Yeah, yeah,
he tested national champion of COVID. That's that's actually really funny.
He tested positive falsely once and uh and then he
came back a second time, got COVID had no issues whatsoever.
And he's seventy years old. By the way, um and um,

(18:33):
what do we go to break? How? How many more
do we have it? One way in double let's go,
let's go to break and I'll let you eight seven
seven nine six three six nine. We're taking your calls,
will take your calls to finish off the hour. This
is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis to bring in
Shannon Spake at Shannon's fake on Twitter. Shannon, you're finished

(18:55):
traveling with the NFL. But I don't know that we've
talked about this. How much of a success story is
it for college football to complete its season crown and
champion Alabama thirteen and oh and for the NFL, knock
on wood, it appears to be set to have its
four divisional round playoff games that are taking place on

(19:17):
Saturday and Sunday completely on schedule. Again, I say, knock
on wood. It doesn't appear there are any major COVID
issues right now for those eight teams that are remaining
the Elite eight of the NFL. If we get those
games in on Saturday and Sunday, which all indications are
would occur. Then we're down to two teams that will

(19:38):
advance to the Super Bowl, the a f C and
the NFC Championship Game will be played four teams in total.
Like this is a remarkable achievement that I feel like
is not getting enough attention. For the NFL not only
to have played its season, but have to have played
its season in totality and to be it completely on
normal schedule is one of the great accomplishments I think

(19:59):
in sports history. Yeah, if you would have told me
eight months ago that we would have finished, but not
only the NFL season, but the college football season, the
NBA season, the Major League Baseball, the NASCAR, everything, right,
And I mean we were in such a state of
unknowns and fear and everyone hiding in their homes and
and yes absolutely, I mean in Clay, I was, you

(20:20):
know right there a part of it all. It was.
It was so drastically different this year, the players on
the field, even watching the National Championship with the lack
of fans in there. And you know, I still have
friends with the Alabama M s, I, D s and
PR folks, and so you know, I send out a
quick text to them and let them know congratulations. And
the first thing that they said back to me was

(20:41):
just that they were so proud because of everything that
the kids had done. Right, because the kids had to
buy in. They're the ones that had to make this happen.
And it was a very different year. These kids are
in college, you know, they're they're supposed to be going out,
having a good time, hanging with their friends, doing all
of these things that college kids do, and all of
that stuff had to stop in for for football, for

(21:04):
for the bigger picture. And I just think and and
you know, even even what Ohio State went through, all
of the uncertainty that they went through, not even though
they were going to have a season, canceling games, I mean,
all of the stuff that they went through, I don't
know how I would have handled that at nine years
old in terms of just kind of checking out and saying,
nobody else wants us to get this done, so why
do we want to get this done? But they stayed focus.

(21:25):
I talked to with us about my I talked with
this about with my wife about how you know we're
now adults right for in quotation marks, right, um, But
I'm amazed, like the number of the amount of discipline
that these college kids show. Because if you think about it,
we had a babysitter over the other day and she

(21:46):
just finished her senior year last year, and she now
is a freshman in college. I think that's probably the
worst age to have to be experiencing COVID because if
you think about in your own high school experience and
everybody out there or imagine what March to May to
June is like for your senior year of high school,

(22:06):
typically for anybody out there who's listening to us, it
is a transformative moment in your life, prom decisions on
where you might be going to college, graduation from high school,
what your plans are going forward in life, in the
last time that you will be as a high school
student in your life, your senior senior year, those are
some of the most important moments of your life, to

(22:28):
say nothing of if you're playing basketball, if you're playing soccer,
if you're playing sports, whatever they might be in that
spring calendar, trying to finish that off right, and then
and then you go into your let's say you go
away to your freshman year of college. Usually your freshman
year of college for anybody out there is fortunate enough
to get to go to college is such a transformative

(22:50):
moment in your life as well as you enter into adulthood,
come to grips with what the rest of your life
might be like, and experience the challenges of being a
freshman in college. Their experiences for senior year of high
school and freshman year of college are totally different than
anybody throughout all of American history. And yet many of

(23:12):
those kids are able to handle that. And she was
an example, you know, like she was saying she was
going back to college. She goes to college in the Midwest,
in Chicago, And she said, Yeah, when I get back
to college, I have to stay in my dorm room
for ten days and not leave to quarantine before I'm
allowed to do anything at all on campus. And I'm
just thinking, think about how awful dorm rooms are for

(23:35):
most people. And you're stuck inside one of those tiny
little dorm rooms for ten days where you can't even
go outside. I mean, I think we're totally underrating the
insanity that we are putting our young people through. See
you sit here and say it like it's a bad
thing for these kids to be quarantine. I'm thinking that
you probably would have been good to be quarantined. It
would have helped your g p A exactly Like I

(23:57):
can't go to the bars Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Frida
when I'm freshman in college. Uh yeah, It's it's completely different.
And you think about like these four kids that are seniors,
they didn't get to have their prom, they didn't get
to walk across the stage. You know, they're they're having
you know, cars parade outside their home. That's there, that's
their graduation. It's it's very odd everything. And I agree

(24:19):
with you the things that the kids have experience. I
couldn't imagine my kids being uh, senior, high school, freshman
in college or even like you know, towards the end
of their career. You know, you're trying to start your
career and now you're doing zoom meetings. You can't go
into these interviews. You can't. You can't, I mean, you
can't start life. You know. I know Howard Stern talks
about it so much, so much. I know you and

(24:40):
I both listened to him about you know, young musicians
coming up who can't go to restaurants and bars and
play right now, it's stop everything yeah, I mean even
my kids. Even my kids, you know, this year we
look at this year is like a throwaway year. I mean,
they're in a different school because we decided to do that,
you know, financially, we didn't want to get locked into
a tuition if there was going to be virtual because

(25:02):
then we would have to get a tutor. And it's
kind of like a throwaway year because everything is so different,
and I don't know how much they're really learning in
the classroom because there are so many uncertainty that we
continue to move forward. You know. I talked to a teacher.
Um this was this was a little while ago, um
and uh and he was an AP teacher. He taught

(25:23):
AP history and uh and in a relatively poor school district.
And for people out there who are not familiar with
the A P History Plan, the idea with AP Advanced
Placement is that kids can get college credit while they're
still in high school. Did you say that for me?
Are you? Yeah? I'm letting you know out there. So, so,
these are the kids that have been working the hardest

(25:44):
by the time they get to their junior and senior
years of high school. Uh. They then take an exam
at the end of the year, and and what he
told me was, I mean, it was really just flat
out heartbreaking. He said, the number of kids that he
teaches that have access to reliable WiFi is miniscule. He
taught in a rural area that did not have a

(26:05):
was a you know, low income, relatively speaking community, and
he's like, man, these kids have been busting their butts
for years to be able to get into these ap courses.
And he said, people say, well, you just gotta teach
them remotely. He said, you know, I've got kids showing
up at seven am to sit in the parking lot
of a McDonald's on a highly unreliable laptop that they

(26:31):
might have if they're fortunate enough to have in a laptop,
to be able to try to get logged into class.
And I just it is it is infuriating to me
that we have so many people out there obsessed supposedly
with equality and making sure that everybody has an equal
chance going forward, and yet we pulled the poorest kids

(26:51):
out of school, the kids without WiFi at home, the
kids without laptops, the kids without parents who were able
to help them, and we have basically taken away a
year of schooling from them that they will never be
able to recover for the rest of their lives. We
are going to be paying the consequences from shutting down
our schools and not allowing kids to be in person

(27:12):
for the rest of these kids lives. Many of them
will never catch up. Right, you talk about a kid
who in six or seventh grade, or god forbid, you know,
kindergarten or first grade, when they're learning how to read.
These kids, I mean, they're there are kids out there
that are never going to achieve anywhere near their academic
potential because we shut down schools and nobody is even

(27:34):
nobody is even talking about this shi and like this.
There's all this social justice warrior talk and all this.
You know, we've got to make sure that we that
we may mandated quality in this country and and all
these different things, and all these athletes are supposed to be,
you know, role models and speaking out. I haven't heard
a single athlete come out and say, hey, we've got
to make sure that every kids in school. I mean,

(27:55):
it's crazy to me. I told you many times I
was not a great student. I could not imagine and
if I had to do virtual learning, it would be
there's no way that I would graduate on time, you know,
because I was a kid like kind of showing up
doing my homework, you know before school, you know when
we walked in, you know, looking off other people like
that's how I did my homework. But that was because
I was never taught like I didn't. I pretty much

(28:17):
raised myself. My mom worked three jobs. We didn't have
that guidance. We did not have someone kind of showing
us what we should have done at a very young age.
So that was where I was. I was not a
great student. I cannot even imagine if I had to
rely on myself sixteen seventeen years old. Yeah, there's there's
no way I would have been set back so far.
And not only that, but but athletics, because I've said

(28:39):
I've said to you before, swimming is what kept me
on a straight line. Swimming is what kept me moving
forward and set goals for myself for the future, and
ultimately it's what helped me end up where I am
today in terms of everything in my life. And so
if I couldn't do that because it was swimming was
canceled or sports were canceled. So there's so many things
at these ports, and you think about kids that can't eat,

(29:01):
they don't that that's their one school lunch, school breakfast. Yes,
we go to a public school right now. They offer
free lunch, free lunch, and free breakfast, and that's like
the one place that some of these kids are able
to eat. There's so many long term effects that we
have no clue what's going to happen. You think about
kids that are abusive homes that like that, is there
one that's their one outlet is to go to school
and yeah, to to go sports, that's their family. It's

(29:23):
it's tragic when you think about it from that level,
and it's just wild to be that. Look, if you're
fortunate enough to be able to afford private school, a
lot of private schools are open. If you're fortunate enough
to be able to afford tutoring for your kids, there's
a lot of people who are doing this pod system
to allow their kids to continue to be educated. If
you're fortunate enough to have a parent who's able to

(29:44):
stay home and work with you, WiFi, reliable internet, computers
that work, all of those things are rarities for many
people in our country. Yet I hear nobody talking about
it and I keep using sports as the prism. You're
just talking about swimming for you, Shannon, everybody out there
listening to me right now, those kids might have been
you might have been somebody that you're friends with who

(30:05):
stayed eligible at school for sports, right Like, they had
to get their grade to be able to play football
or basketball or soccer or whatever it was. That's what
they lived for while they were in school. And the
hope is that eventually the lightbulb comes on and you recognize, hey,
I'm gonna have to use this brain to make a living.
And but in the meantime, sports helped to drive you

(30:25):
to get that education, and we're just yanking that safety
net completely out from underneath everybody. Yeah, it's uh, we
talked about this many times, Clay and and that it's
it's so sad and so scary. I don't know. I mean,
there's there's a fine balance, you know, because I do know.
I mean, we just had we just had a gym
teacher in this area forty something years old, died of COVID,

(30:46):
you know, and I know the people are surviving, and
then you get that one story. Thankfully, our our school
has been open, just like I heard you say earlier
in the show that you're that you're been thank god
that our school districts are open. You go a mile
down the road though, in Mecklenburg County, which is like
the major county for Charlotte, they're not either. They're still
do intro virtual or half and half. And and we

(31:07):
just had we just had a bulletin come out I
think yesterday here in the Mecklenburg area that says like
we have all these rules now where we have to
stay in between this time and this time. And yeah,
but thankfully the sports has still been open. My kids
dive and swim, and so they're still doing that and
they're still in school and they go to school every day,
and it's very different for them as well, but they're adapting.

(31:28):
But I do feel I feel worse for those high
school kids, all those kids that are that are trying
to start their lives and trying to form their lives somehow. Yeah,
and it's also crazy, Like you just mentioned, Mecklenburg County,
which is Charlotte, Davidson County is Nashville. We're not far
from the county line. I was a public school kid
K through twelve in Nashville City schools. Those kids aren't
able to go to school right now. So, I mean,

(31:50):
you're talking about the line the difference as if like
there's some massive difference in COVID from like you know,
it's not like COVID can see the county line, right,
you know, like and so on one county side kids
are able to go to school. I'm betting that the
county that you're in, the kids are probably more affluent.
The kids are more affluent in my county school, so
they already have advantages, and then we're magnifying those advantages

(32:12):
by those kids being able to go to school in person,
play sports, be able to live their lives, and the
kids that are less advantaged are not being able to
go to school. It's the exact opposite of what equality
should be. The richer getting richer, the poor getting poorer.
It should be a major issue. Yet nobody's talking about it. Nope.
And you know they're getting I mean our school thankfully,
like my kids are only in sixth fifth grade, so

(32:33):
they are able to get laptops and if you don't
have one, chromebooks and all this stuff and they send
it home. But but yeah, I mean the Mecklenburg, the
high schools. It's so overcrowded as it is in this area.
Like just like I said one mile down the road
that a lot of those kids are not logging on
you hear all of these stories. Um, So it's um,
it's certainly, it's certainly going to be interesting as we
see it move forward. But you know, I know Danny

(32:54):
g told you I wanted to talk COVID the whole time,
right exactly what he said, we'll talk to you. Didn't
we did? We play like we did? We did have
an incredible weekend of football on fire thirty two days
of the So how about that. That's pretty fantastic. I'll
talk to you about that next week. We'll be down
to the a f C in the NFC Championship game
that Shannon spake. Uh. This is OutKick on Fox Sports Radio.

(33:18):
This is Outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis. We've been
talking about college football completing their season and CBS Sports
being proven wrong. Encourage you to go read, uh, go
listen and subscribe to our podcast. You can hear the
first couple of hours I've been teeing off on CBS Sports,

(33:40):
which had an expert guarantee that at least one player
would die if the season was played, three to seven
would be likely to die. Of course, none of that
has come to fruition. Uh. And I also have been
been saying that sports is a prism through which we
can open up our society. And I've been speaking out
on the fact that kids need to be able to

(34:01):
go to school, and I said, not a lot of athletes.
Given the fact that athletes want to talk about how
they want to use their platform and their voice in
a positive direction, this shouldn't be a part as an
issue at all. The data is straightforward, transparent and clear
in person learning needs to be going on. It can
and is being done safely in many parts of the country,
in many parts of the world. And many of you

(34:23):
tagged me after I made those comments and pointed out
that the last night Greg Olsen, uh, the former tight
end of the Panthers, who is now with God? Who
is Greg Olson with now the Anybody remember I know
we got injured, walked off the field the Seahawks, Right,
isn't he with the Seahawks? Yeah? Greg Olsen tweeted out.

(34:45):
Parents need to start being their children's best advocate. These
public officials are doing damage to our kids. They may
never bounce back from. Schools need to be open period. Uh.
And and he tagged in particular, we were just talking
with Shannon Spake talking about the difference between Charlotte City schools,

(35:07):
county schools, and everywhere else. He tagged the City of
Charlotte government. Uh in the North Carolina governor and uh.
And so props to Greg Olsen for becoming the first
athlete that I'm aware of, UH to speak out on
the need for schools to be open. And certainly part
of schools being opened is sports being able to be played. Uh.

(35:28):
And that is incredibly important towards getting a sense of
normalcy back in this country. So props to Greg Olsen,
first athlete that I have seen using his platform for
something that is on the right side there and something
that may be a little bit controversial, right, something that
people might not always all approve of, but is incredibly

(35:51):
important across the board. So that is uh. That is
where we are there. Um and UH. Speaking of something
that is much less serious, there has been wailing in
the streets, There has been rending of garments, there has
been a massive uprising of anger over our failure to
have an updated Animal Thunderdome of recent vintage, because we've

(36:12):
been talking so much about the NFL and the college
football playoffs and everything else. I fear not fellow out
kick fans. It is now time for an animal Thunderdome.
Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just glad I was scaring boys

(36:33):
and goods. I thought he thought I was like this
enormous piece of chicken dime. Times I had at such
of my space. This is Animal Thunderdome, all right, Danny, gee,
what you got for me? The first Thunderdome of We're
gonna start In Connecticut, a man and a woman were

(36:55):
injured in a bobcat attack in Southbury. The bobcat initially
the attacked a dog Monday night. Then check this out.
It follows the dog into a garage, where it attacked
the dog's female owner. The husband then enters the garage
and pulled the bobcat off his wife. According to w
T NH, the bobcat bit the man's arm and he

(37:18):
slammed it into the ground, then beat it with a
fireplace log until the bobcat was dead. Oh man, how
old is this guy? Gangster does not give his age,
but the south Bury Police say that the animal control
officer and the state Department of Energy were called to
the home, where they found the bobcat dead in the driveway.

(37:39):
The woman suffered injuries to her head and shoulders. The
husband had injuries on his arm. The dog suffered injuries
and was taken to a vet. But it's gonna be okay.
The couple is receiving Raby's treatments right now. But what
a badass this husband was. Yeah, I mean this this
guy gets as much sex as he could handle. I
don't know what the the ratio is. But if you

(38:01):
save your wife from a bobcat attack and then kill
the bobcat with your basic bear hands, I mean, I
don't know that a log really counts as much of
a weapon, like you beat the bobcat into submission. I
think that that your wife. I mean, I don't know
how she can claim to have a headache for months.
A tired right now, Well, it wasn't too tired when
I saved you from the bobcat that was gonna kill

(38:21):
you until I came out and beat it to death.
I think this dude is this dude is hooked up
I hope he's young. Hope we can take advantage of it.
What's extraly crazy about the story. The bobcat is the
one wildcat that rarely attacks humans this uh maybe it
was rabbit too. I mean that kills the vibe a
little bit, getting close to Valentine's Day, baby, getting twenty

(38:42):
of shots in your stomach or whatever the heck you
have to do now for for rabies. But I would think, like,
you know, again, how many years do you think you
would have and immediate Trump card if your wife complained
about anything if you save from a bobcat. I would
that for a good two years. And you're married. If

(39:03):
you saved your wife from a bobcat, how long would
it be because she could complain about something that you did? Infinity? Yeah, right,
like if any time she comes out and she's like, hey,
you forgot to change the light bulbs in this Yeah, okay,
So I'm sorry. My arm was a little tender from
when I saved you from that bobcat attack. You know,
it's a little bit hard to reach it above my head. Honey,

(39:24):
are you really gonna sit here and watch football all day? Yeah?
You know what, I Am gonna sit here and watch
football day because I saved you from a bobcat in
our garage, do you remember? And he killed the bobcat.
You gotta mount that thing, right, I think you gott
to mount it. You gotta get it. You gotta get
it put up on the mantel. Yeah, great conversation that way.

(39:46):
You never are your wife's never allowed it. Oh that
you don't say anything? Yeah? Yeah, Oh you're mad I
forgot Valentine's. Well, you know what, the only reason you're
here to celebrate Valentine's is because I killed that bobcat. Honey, alright.
On our next story, here, a sharp shooting Kansas game
warden rescued two bucks with their antlers that were locked

(40:08):
together by shooting an antler off without injuring either animal.
This is like the movie when somebody's holding a hostage
and they shoot the guy that's holding the hostage, and
the person who's the hostage is perfectly fine, right, and
the blood just splatters on the person in the eyes.
The Kansas Wildlife Parking Tourism game Warden said that a
bow hunter had reported the two deer with their antlers

(40:31):
locked together in Jackson County, and that the hunter notified
game wardens. The game wardens located the bucks, but they
couldn't get too close because the animals still were struggling violently.
Game Warden Jeff Klauser was able to get a clear
shot and used his gun to shoot an antler, breaking
it off and freeing the two deer. That's amazing, that
is crazy shot. Could have just shot one of the deer.

(40:56):
I mean, if they have antlers there, man, you're like
a big game hunter this. I mean, I'm just saying
like usually people are after the I mean, like you know,
you could have just shot both deer and had venison
for a long time. Just pointed out there is a
deer overpopulation, all right. And then a story that's gonna
make you a little uncomfortable. A British soap opera star

(41:17):
called animal rescuers for help when he found a four
ft python slithering across his toilet seat. Herry vis Nani,
who plays Seb Franklin on the popular I t V
soap Coronation Street, which we all know and love. Big
fan of Cornation Street, said he went into his bathroom
Saturday morning in Hale, England. He shares an apartment with

(41:38):
his girlfriend Ellie Isaac. All right, let me pause here
for a second. If you're a soap opera star, shouldn't
you have an actual house? Well, it depends because you
think it's a super high end apartment, because if there's
snakes running wild. Like when I hear soap opera star
and then I hear shares an apartment with his girlfriend,

(41:59):
I'm like, shouldn't this guy be more successful? I thought
you were going to ask if it was a you know,
like a high profile soap opera, because I don't think
soap quote unquote stars are the richest people in Hollywood. Well,
that's certainly true, but I would think that they wouldn't
live in apartments. Yeah, I mean when back in the
day when I watched soap operas with my grandma, when

(42:21):
I was home from school sick, or in the summers,
when I would watch Days of Our Lives, which I
watched and I'm trying to remember with bow and uh
and and and Morgan. I think, no, what not Morgan? Anyway,
all of the different storylines. Anybody else watched Days of
Our Lives? No, Oh, there was John Black, there was

(42:41):
the fake John Black, there was all Roman Like, there's
all these different interesting storylines right back. And this is
probably somebody can tweet me with with all the names
of the characters on on Days of Our Lives. If
I had found out that one of them was living
in an apartment complex, like if you're in the if
you're in the elevator with with John Black from Days

(43:04):
of Our Lives, that would be kind of unexpected, I think,
right Like you'd be like, hey, you're just living the
apartment here with me, Like you think that there's a
higher level of success than soap opera stars writing down
and the element I'm not talking. Well, I gotta stop
you right there, because what do you always say about
snake owner The snake always gets away right, Well, they
say that the snake is believed to have belonged to

(43:27):
the previous occupant of the apartment, who died several months earlier,
so they think the snake was hiding out in this
apartment the whole time. That I mean, but again, this
like how high end is this apartment? And this is
why I would never look I would if you told
me that somebody had had like a lot of snakes

(43:48):
in a house beforehand, I'm not buying it, because that's
the truth. Like snakes always get out. I don't know
how it happens, but they always escape, And I just
I don't even understand how it's possible. What's the girl's name?
Her name is Ellie Isaac, Ellie Isaac. I'm gonna look
her up E L l I E and then Isaac

(44:10):
I S A A C. Do we think that? I mean,
she's a soap opera star. She's got to be good looking, right,
Ellie Isaac. Yes, she's dating the soap star, so she's
got to be. I don't know how to spell Ellie.
Is here? I see her? Oh that's not Ellie Isaac.
How do you spell Ellie Isaac E L L I E. Yeah,
I got the Ellie part, okay, and then Isaac I

(44:32):
S A A C. This must not be a very
very popular show, because I like, there's no reaction on
Maybe maybe type his name in and then say his
girlfriend Harry Vinny is his name? It's v I S
I N O N I for Instagram. Let's see if

(44:53):
this is her. No, the accounts private, So I just
I don't think. I mean, I I'm questioning how significant
in any way this this soap opera actually is. But
I'm not sure I buy any of this story, to
be honest, They quoted him here. He says, I was
just brushing my crooked teeth, I added, and saw what
looked like a snakehead popped from behind the wall at

(45:13):
the back of the toilet. I didn't take it in
at first, but then I looked again in horror, realizing
what I had seen. I ran out of the bathroom
as quickly as I could and closed the door. Probably
his best dramatic scene of his career. Yeah uh. And
then he says when he found out that this is
a royal python that might have belonged to the previous
owner of the apartment or renter of the apartment, he says,

(45:34):
I thought it was quite apt that this royal python
was found on the throne all right by the way.
A lot of people rolling in right now with days
of our lives recollections. A lot of people used to
watch it with their grandma's to more. Lana Hope, Austin Lucas,
Sammy Stefano, John Black. Uh. That was that was the

(45:55):
I don't do they I don't Victor. Oh yeah, Victor
was on there forever. He was on for like Bow Hope. Yeah,
the Victor. I forgot about Victor. He was on there.
For Victor was like a fifty year soap opera star.
Days of Our Lives. My mom wouldn't let us watch
those shows when we were kids. Watch. I said, there
were too many hussies on the Well, there were a
lot of hussies. Did nobody else watch Days of My Mom?

(46:16):
Would you watched it? My mom would watch all the time. Yeah,
I saw it occasionally. Yeah. Oh, my grandma was absolutely
like the number of people rolling in with all of
the all the Days of our Lives. Yes, I watched
the show all the time. Summer all right, one final
thunderdome for today. Police in New Jersey responded to a

(46:38):
McDonald's parking lot where a pair of chickens were reported
wreaking havoc and chasing customers. The Washington Township Police departments
say that an animal control officer was dispatched on a
report of a flock of chickens wreaking havoc at our
local McDonald's on Route thirty one South. The officer arrived
to find two chickens harassing and chasing customers and working

(47:00):
at car tires. The police department says the animal control
officer was able to capture the chickens with help from
the manager of the McDonald's, who then walked them into
the freezer. No, I hain't that part of I mean
this seems chickens. Chickens were taken to the Common Sense
for Animals shelter, where they were later claimed by their owners.

(47:23):
That's crazy. Um, definitely feels like a chick fil a
stunt to have chickens loose and the McDonald's parking lot. Um,
all right, the chicken wars are getting real. Chicken wars
are getting real. Indeed, Um, that's right. Victor Veto just
texted me. Victor is the dad of Jennifer Aniston. Do
you remember that? Uh? Is Victor still alive? Do we know? Um?

(47:48):
He was? He was a stud back in the day? Um?
All right, Um, we're googling that right now. So I
questioned the story Aniston. He's still alive at seven seven?
I mean, I mean he was on that show for
like fifty years. Um, I mean he I mean he

(48:09):
was great on that show back in the day. All right,
when we come back, my guy Joe Kinzie from OutKick
is going to join us. Jockenzie's got a lot of
great stories on a day to day basis. Fox Sports
Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot
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(48:30):
s R to listen live. We bring in now Joe Kinzie.
He is at Joeckenzie e XP on Twitter. You can
find him there. You can read him every single day
at out Kick and Joe. We start with what is
the vibe of the Ohio State Buckeye fans? Now? As
you've woken up twice in the cold light of morning
after the beat down from Alabama, Clay, thank god the

(48:52):
scoring has stopped from Alabama. That's all I wanted was
just keep it under seventy. I just don't want to
see a big seventy burger on the scoreboard. And uh,
you know, Ohio people, Uh, they're gonna hang their hat
on the Clemson wade. You're never gonna hear anything about
the Alabama loss. H it will be more about beating

(49:13):
Dabbo and Uh, they're gonna try to forget this one. Clay,
do you think even with the bad beat down and
you're a good point, you kept them from hanging sixty
or seventy on you. But even with the loss here
in the grand scheme of things, if you could have
gone back in time and told Ohio State fans in
July and August when it looked like the Big Ten

(49:34):
schedule wasn't gonna happen at all, Hey, you're not gonna
win the national championship, but you will go to the
National championship game and play against Alabama. They all sign
up for in a heartbeat, right, Oh, absolutely, because you
know they've got that like they've got like that that
belief that, oh, you know, we're different world house. State

(49:55):
will beat Alabama with like forty NFL starters on their offer.
We're we're we're good. They'll lose, you know, they'll lose
one of their weapons, and we'll sneak in a you know,
a game winning field goal with our third string kicker.
It'll be all good. And that's the mentality. And then
the reality is is that you get on the field
and they're playing defense that is like, you know, twenty

(50:17):
yards off the off Davante Smith. It doesn't make any sense,
but I think that's also a wildhise State fans. They're
just like, no, we're not going to talk about this one. Uh,
we're gonna move on quickly to the Browns game. Speaking
of moving onto the Browns game, and I'll get you
with that in a second. Sean Wade saying he thought
he could cover Davante Smith one of the most outlandish

(50:38):
claims by a cornerback in recent memory. Clay, what what
was with him? He didn't look like he wanted to
be on the field. It was out. It was absolutely
outlandish to say that he's trying to be you know,
Mr NFL cornerback, shut down corner all that, and then
he gets out there and it's like, no, I'm gonna
let Davante Smith just burn the entire secondary all night.

(51:00):
And you're making Tough Borland look like a fool out
there trying to trying to cover Davante Smith in the
middle of the filth. That wasn't fair. That's that's criminal, criminal, Clay,
all right. So you had this article that we started
off the show with. UH. That was from Dennis dot
at CBS Sports who quoted UH. A expert in quotation

(51:22):
marks University of Illinois computer science professor Sheldon Jacobson said, quote,
I guarantee someone is going to die and that he
said there would be three to seven football deaths at
the FBS level. First of all, the guarantee Joe Namath
style that somebody was gonna die maybe in bad uh
maybe in bad faith effort there. But should CBS Sports

(51:45):
have to retract this article and or acknowledge that they
bought into the fear porn and they were pent wrong? Clay,
We've talked about this a lot. Why haven't they at
least addressed it. They have not addressed this since August
when they did get the clarification from Dr Jacobson that
he had lowered his his prediction two point five deaths

(52:08):
up to like one point five eight deaths. So they,
you know, they try to backtrack it, and then they're saying, no,
we're gonna let Jacobson go out on a limb and
still predict death. And then after that they're done with
the guy. They just let him go and and go
about his life and they ruined football seasons. I mean,

(52:30):
think about all the conferences that we're seeing. We know
that the PAC twelve saw Jacobson's quotes because they there's
lots of references to Jacobson saying death is coming. So
you've got packed twelve guys at Stanford that we're just
out of their minds, like we're gonna die, we can't
play football. So the conference just loses their mind. You know,

(52:52):
all this money that's down the drain because of this,
because of one guy's death guarantee. CBS needs to come
out say we were wrong to run this. This was
absolutely irresponsible. Dodd should be he should be apologizing for
running it. And then and then we need to move
on from this nonsense with death death predictions. No more

(53:16):
death predictions. Clay, Yeah, I think that would just be
a national championship. Yeah, metaphorical death maybe, like we're gonna
beat your brains in, you know, like, okay, I can
handle that. I don't want literal brains being built a
beat in. And I definitely don't want guarantees of death
from people who are being cited as experts on a
sport to website when it turns out to be a

(53:38):
percent wrong. Speaking of right, Paulina Gretzky, like, is she
the most popular woman that has ever existed on the internet?
Play this is unbelievable. I posted Paulina yesterday. The Paulina
Gretzky Dustin Johnson Crew. The Vacation crew has moved the

(53:58):
party to Aspen and they have been partying that there
at least on a week bender every month for the
last three months. And the popularity, Clay, I, I thought
this was a throwaway post. I thought there's nothing going
to happen with this people cannot get enough of is
really amazing. Like, I'm gonna be honest with you. Every

(54:22):
time I see you write a story about Paulina Gretzky,
I think there's probably nothing here, and I still click
every single time, And I do it within about ten
seconds of seeing the headline. You and every other pipe
layer electrician in this country, you guys cannot stop clicking.
My job is easy, Clay, I do you know I

(54:45):
I pump one of those posts out. My job is
done here. So why do you think it is about
Paulina Gretzky that makes her so insanely popular? Like, obviously
she's good looking, but there are lots of good looking
women on the internet. In fact, Instagram is basically the
entire business model is predicated on good looking women on
the Internet. Yet there seems to be every now and then,

(55:08):
like this unicorn that crosses all boundaries, right, Like everybody
clicks on Paulina Gretzky stories. Is it the Wayne Gretzky connection,
Is that the Dustin Johnson connection, or is it just
she predated before all of the instagram hotness came and
so she is like one of the last true superstars

(55:29):
of the page view era on the Internet. Man, I
think it's a little bit of everything. I think that
it it's like that uh that status that people will
never uh gain in life. I think that has a
lot to do with it, you know that that financial
the beauty, the the ability to jump on a private

(55:50):
jet to go to asthmen and do shot skis. I
think that's like the ultimate dream. It's like hitting one
of these mega millions or powerballs and you're like, WHOA,
what I do? What would I do? And I would
want that life, you know, And so instantly people want
to see what that life is about. It's that dream
world that people want to live in, and Paulina gives it,

(56:11):
gives you everything. It's it's like you want the tropics,
you get the tropics. You want golf, you want the
golf course, you want the Masters. I'll give you that,
and then I'm gonna give you Aspen and I'm I'm
gonna give it to you all in like three months.
Your head's gonna explode. You have no choice but the
fallen in in a Paulina trap. Um. Speaking of falling

(56:33):
in a trap, do you think the Browns have fallen
in a trap going up against the Chiefs trap as
in they think they're gonna win. Yeah, I mean, I
mean I think. Look, I know the Browns fans are
ecstatic over the Wind, over the Steelers, but it seems
to me like there's some optimism that they're going to
go on the road and be Kansas City. I think

(56:53):
this is that they're losing their minds a little bit. Well,
this is like, O, how State beating Clemson. You're you're writing,
I got over the COVID. Listen, No COVID issues this
week in Cleveland that we know of that we know of.
So far. They're so good, they're feeling they're feeling great.
You've got that Clemson victory. Now you're gonna go to

(57:14):
You're gonna go to Alabama. You're gonna go to Kansas
City and play them and uh and listen. I love
the first win. Love love the Browns. Getting into the
second weekend of the year. But let's be honest here,
Patrick Mahomes just sitting there waiting, waiting to destroy these guys. Uh.
I need to see a little more defensive effort out

(57:34):
of the Browns if they keep playing the Ohio State defense. Clay,
bad news, bad news. They gave up a ton yards
to the Steelers. All right, You've got a bunch of
stories that I want to bounce off of you really
quick in a row here. So the NBA has announced
new rules. You say this is bad for Instagram models
being able to visit them in their hotel rooms. Uh. No,

(57:56):
hotel visitors, Clay, No, Uh, nobody is allowed in hotel
rooms on the kill the fun of being an NBA player, Right,
If you can't have Instagram models in your hotel room,
that absolutely killed that. No road restaurants also, Clay, that's huge.
You cannot take the Instagram miles to restaurants. So we're
this is like the Instagram rule, the Instagram model rule

(58:18):
that Adam Silver has unleashed. You know, it's hell hell
for these players. They love Adam Silver until he does
this to him. I don't blame him, all right, So
Bills fans. You've got a video of them fighting. They
finally get back in the stadium. There are only six
hundred of them, and we have a knockdown drag out
already in the Bills Mafia. Unbelievable. Low man wins the fight. Clay,

(58:43):
You've got to see the fight. You rarely ever see
a guy with low ground in the stands. Yeah, the
absolutely unleashes on Zobaz pants guy. Great video, great fight.
Great to have the Bills Mafia back fighting each other,
drinking fighting, you know, doing what Bill's Mafia does. There

(59:04):
is infatuation in general with athletes who make bad financial decisions.
And I saw this story that you had up yesterday
and I was like, I don't even know how this
is possible. Evander Kane has a seven year, forty forty
nine million dollar contract and he just filed for bankruptcy. Yeah, Clay,

(59:26):
this heartbreaking story. People love when athletes go broke, and uh,
let's be honest. Evander Kane is like, he's like the
poster child now for it used to be Antoine Walker.
He was the old one that was broken. You couldn't
believe it. Uh. Evander Kane twenty six million dollars in debt. Uh,

(59:47):
it's twenty six million dollars in debt. Is hard to
pull off? Yeah. Yeah. And another thing, Clay, he is
supporting his mother, his father, his grandmother, He's supporting two uncles,
his sister, and his obviously his young six month old
baby daughter is dependent also. So but I hear that,

(01:00:10):
and I think to myself, you know, on a forty
nine million dollar contract, it doesn't seem that hard to
support all those people. Like I support my wife and
three kids on my contract, it's nowhere near forty nine
million dollars. You support uh your kids and uh and
your wife. You may both work, but there's a lot
of people supporting a lot of a lot of different

(01:00:30):
family members that aren't twenty six million dollars in debt. Yeah.
The monthly expenses, this is all in the Chapter seven
bankruptcy report that I went through uh ninety three thousand
dollars a month in expenses. That's that sounds like a lot,
but it only adds up to one point two million, right,

(01:00:51):
So he's still got to be And the other thing
I always and blown away by when these guys file
for bankruptcy. It's hard, aren't to go bankrupt and not
have any hard assets, right Like, if I went bankrupt today,
you would at least be able to say, well, he
owns his house, he's got his place down in Florida. Like,

(01:01:12):
even if you're spending a lot of money a lot
of times, you should be spending money on hard assets,
right like that theoretically would even be increasing in value
even as you continued your spendthrift. Ways, what amazes me
about many of these bankruptcies is they're spending it on
things that don't still exist, right like food, drinks, cars,

(01:01:35):
like things that don't have any tangible value. Vacations, hotel rooms.
Yeah no, he had. He lists two cars. Both both
car payments are over at least for each. Uh so,
I mean there's a chunky at three houses. Uh So?
How do you spend fifty dollars a year on a

(01:01:57):
car payment? I mean that's a lotment for a car payment.
I'm not talking about buying a car. I'm talking about
a car payment. I don't need what what car costs
for a month. I have to assume a loan. You
know what? What's the interest right on that? Love? I
don't know, but I can tell you I have a
brand new range Rover and my car is less than

(01:02:20):
two thousand dollars a month, So that is a brand new,
tricked out range Rover. How I don't even know what
you could have that costs forty a month. Well, the
bankruptcy listing does it says something about a Mercedes. What
kind of Mercedes? I mean it has to be like
a million dollar Mercedes. I don't get it. Yeah, I

(01:02:41):
mean does it fly? Does it? Is it also a boat?
I genuinely don't know. I don't know it's possible. Uh
all right, Uh, last question for you, and we're talking
to Joe Kinzie. Encourage you to follow him on Twitter
at Joe Kinzie e XP and you can read everything
that he's writing. Uh. And Woken was upset, as I

(01:03:02):
call him Dan Woken, how many he writes at USA
Today he tweeted how many SEC football players and coaches
ended up getting COVID. Not sure how you can just
skip that piece before patting yourself on the back for
how the season went. Woken has been fighting against college
football being played all year. You know things are getting

(01:03:22):
bad when even Scott Van Pelt, who might be the
nicest guy on the internet, he responded, I didn't play
for an SEC football team. I wear masks, I don't
go out into crowded places. I followed suggested protocols. I
quote ended up getting it crazy. Right when Scott Van
Pelt dunks on you for your COVID takes. I'm not

(01:03:44):
sure how you recover from that. Yeah, it's it's over
for woke. Uh listening, he can finally end the misery
that he had watching college football this year Fauma's basement,
drinking his white claws. The season's over for being woken.
He's done for the year. I mean, can you imagine

(01:04:05):
how miserable he was to think that college football was
happening Monday. If if you need to be rooting for
a player to die in order for your predictions to
be held accurate, you need to just reassess your entire life.
And by the way, Danny Danny Cannell also dunked on him.
Hey dan oh University of Connecticut canceled their season. They

(01:04:27):
still had twenty four players test positive this fall. As
most of us rational people pointed out, not playing football
did not guarantee perfect health. Bro, just admit you were wrong.
That's a good line, Bro, Just admit you were wrong.
It would solve a lot of problems on the internet.
Play Listen, I could probably go back and find college

(01:04:48):
football players that were shot and killed, you know, car
Rex all that stuff. This year, not one player was
in the hospital or on his deathbed because of COVID.
The wokester lost his you know, he got his president.
That was what he really wanted. We all know that.
And uh, oh, you know, hopefully. I don't know what's

(01:05:09):
going to happen to the guy. I don't know what
else he can write on now. It's like his career
is over now. So no, I was just gonna say,
keep up the good work. Uh. And evidently you said
something about Dave Blaney and said that something was wrong.
I don't know. In your morning screen caps, you got
a Hooter's model girlfriend, Dave Blaney's girlfriend checking in from

(01:05:32):
the Bahamas. Everybody go look at it. Uh, that's that's
his cover Hooters waitress model cover girl. I don't know
what he sees in. I don't know what he sees,
but I feel confident she's never drowning. She's got flotation devices.
She's gonna be fine, joking, she'll be finding deep water.
We will talk to you next week. I appreciate about

(01:05:53):
me and keep up the good work. This is outkicked
the coverage with Clay Travis
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