04/13/2021 - The Best of Outkick The Coverage - 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Sports Radio. Welcome in Tuesday edition. I hope all of
you are having a fantastic start to your Tuesday. I
was out yesterday. My thanks to the crew Jonas Knox.
I believe in Jeff Shorts who set in. Why was
I out, Well, I was out because I was at
WrestleMania second day. They did a Saturday WrestleMania and a

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Sunday WrestleMania, and it was really cool. I was down
near the ring, right by the ramp where everybody walked in.
I was with my wife, who is a big long
time ww fans. She was actually wearing her Ricky the
Dragon Steamboat shirt and she went to WrestleMania three. My

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wife did in Detroit the Pontiac Silver Dome back when
Hulk Coogan and Andre the Giant were wrestling nineties. Some
odd thousand people were there for WrestleMania three, and it
was an event and you may remember that yourself, or
you may have gone back and watched some of those
old school wrestling matches when those guys were such iconic figures.

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Hull Cogan was there, which was cool to see him.
We had a good time in Tampa. The weather held
off in the evening, uh, and it was a pretty
fantastic time. So uh, that's where I was on Monday,
traveling back from Tampa. I'm now back in the back
in the seat here and we are ready to roll.

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I will say sitting ringside for WrestleMania, the athleticism of
the wrestlers is pretty impressive to be able to see
up close like that. And I've never set ringside for
a big boxing match or a big UFC event, and
that makes me want to go to a big boxing,

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big big boxing match or a big UFC event and
be able to sit down close and see it face
to face as opposed to seeing it through television. There's
just something about being able to appreciate the athleticism better
to me if you are watching it in person as
opposed to watching it on television. The guys are bigger, faster,

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and stronger. Same thing. By the way, for football, if
you ever get a chance to watch a major college
football game or an NFL game down really close where
you can get a sense for the size and the
speed of the guys on the field, it's UH. It's
definitely a unique experience. So even something simple like seeing
somebody climb to the top of the ropes when you're

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sitting down ground level and can look up and see
how high those guys are on the roads pretty cool.
So it was an awesome experience. So that was a
lot of fun. Thanks to the president of w w E,
Nick Khan for bringing my wife and I down and
UH and hosting us. We had a phenomenal time there
uh hanging out with him. So a bunch of different

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things that are going on in the world. But I'll
react a little bit to the Masters because I wasn't
on Monday to react to it and Dub I don't
know how your gambling bets went with the Masters, but
it was a mess for me because I had Xander
shuffle e and in whose name I'm probably messing up.

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But I had him at a big payday and he
completely fell apart at sixteen. And truth be told, this
was not a very interesting Sunday at the Masters. And
even Saturday you had the rain delay. But Sunday there
was about twenty minutes of drama when Adeki Matsuyama put
the ball into uh. He put it in the water.

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I think it was on fifteen and then uh Xander
cut it to two shots and he had the opening
te shot on sixteen to really put. I think a
lot of pressure on matsu Yama, maybe enough that if
he had hit a good shot on sixteen, I think
he may have won the tournament. Instead, he put it
in the water, which almost no one does at sixteen. Right,

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that's not a really greatly difficult tea shot. Now, sometimes
you're not close enough to to the pen. To me,
you have to you know, two or three put, which
is what Matsuyama did, So that can be a challenge.
But Xander Shuffley, I think he had not had a
triple bogey in like a thousand holes of major action
so far. He puts it in the water and then

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he comes back on his drop and hits it into
the gallery behind the hole, which is also another awful shot.
So he went back to back triple bogeys, and Matsuyama
as a result can really coast his way into UH
winning the Green jacket. And then, by the way, credit
to Manzi Yama, I saw some of these pictures out

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on Monday. UH. He is just sitting in the normal
seats outside of a gate in Atlanta, UH with his
green jacket and a couple of guys that he's traveling with,
not flying private, not even sitting in a private area
of the Atlanta Airport. He's just chilling in the in

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the terminal. Totally regular dude who happens to have a
green jacket and have won the biggest golf honor in Japan,
which is a golf mad country in that country's history.
So would you agree with me dub as a die
hard Master's fan that Sunday other than about twenty minutes
where you started to think, hey, maybe Matzo Yama is

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gonna gonna crumble a little bit down the stretch starting
at fifteen, but then Zander shuffle. He wasn't even able
to keep the pressure on him because he immediately dunked it. Yeah,
it was pretty much a total snooze fest on Sunday,
which you know, not every master's can be nineteen. You know,
not every single one is going to be an all
time great. But I had some money on Will's Allatorus.

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And then my big bed of the week was John
rom to finish in the top ten. So he went
out and shot a sixty six on Sunday which kind
of saved me there. But speaking on Xander Shaffle, he
had seven birdies on Sunday and Nazi Yama shot one over.
If you would have known that information before the round started,
I think there would have been a lot of people

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that would have had some money on Zander. You think
that's a joke job on sixteen when he put it
in the water, is it fair to say that that's
a choke? Well, I was listening to him talk to
the media after his round and he said that he
hit the exact shot that he wanted to, but him
and his caddy just misjudged the wind. He said he
thought the wind was helping, but it was actually hurting.
So he said he hit a perfect shot, but they

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just miscalculated before the shot. So and well, then he
followed it up with a pretty bad shot from the
zone too, but not only sixteen, but in the middle
of his front nine he bogied three, he bogied four,
then he double bogied five. So yeah, two separate occasions
where he really gave up some shots there. But you know,
CONGRATSI Deckie Matziyam. And those pictures that you're talking about

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Airport yesterday, we're fantastic. Those were really cool to see.
It's also interesting, by the way, and I want to
mention this, because there's a lot of talk about cancel
culture in the world of sports, and certainly we saw
it with Rob Manford pulling the All Star Game out
of Atlanta. And by the way, Braves fans just indignant
now because not only did the All Star Game get
pulled out of Atlanta, but that crazy call on Sunday,

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which I can react to, I guess now even though
it's Tuesday, where they looked at it on instant replay,
and still if you haven't watched this, I mean, it's
worth going back. And I think it's one of the
flaws of instant replay. I don't understand how you can
have instant replay and still get something wrong like this,
But I do think this is great evidence for anybody
out there who's listening and they're worried about people being

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mad at them on social media or what's the reaction
gonna be. Once the Master started play on Thursday, nobody
talked about the idea of canceling the Masters anymore. And
it was a ridiculous boycotting the Masters, whatever you want
to call it, it was a ridiculous idea in the
first place. Even some people said you need to relocate

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the Masters, which I said is basically like saying, hey,
you need to relocate the University of Georgia. The Masters
exist in Augusta. You either play it there or you
don't play it at all. But once you started and
you teed off, nobody talked about the idea of canceling
the golf course or the golf competition anymore. And I

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think there's so much fear and so much trepidation out
there in the marketplace in general, that people overreact. And
I think that's what happened frankly with Rob Manfred when
he pulled the Major League Baseball All Star Game. I
was reading over the weekend. The Washington Post had a
big article up that I was catching up on, and
they said, Hey, the new Georgia voting bill actually isn't

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going to restrict voting access at all. In fact, there
may be more people voting in Georgia in the wake
of this new bill because they expanded early voting and
other aspects. And so we are so quick to be
captured by whatever viral outrage there is oftentimes in the
world of sports before people ever actually do any research

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about it. And to me, this was an interesting angle
was once they teed off, there was all this talk.
Even the President got asked about it once should be
going on at AUGUSTA. Once they teed off, the story disappeared.
Now I'm bringing it back up right now just as
evidence that once you get to the sporting event itself,

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all of the other discussion is noise and advantishes. And
so I actually think a lot of these sports leagues
should do less as opposed to doing more, because once
the games themselves start, that's what becomes the discussion point.
What happened was Xander Shuffley. Did he choke at sixteen

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with the shot that he put in the water. Would
a Decki Matsuyama have one if Xander Shuffley had been
able to keep the overall pressure up on him. Those
become the talking points, even justin Rose and how hot
of a out of the gate he came out on
that opening Thursday. These are all of the things that
fans talk about, and the idea of boycotting or canceling

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or anything else, the story just vanishes. And I don't
know about you, Dub. You basically watched every minute once
they actually teed off at the Masters. Did you hear
anything more about the idea of canceling or boycotting or
was it all about golf? Yeah, it was pretty much
just golf. No more talks of the boycott, no more
talks of anything of that nature. And so I think

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that's indicative of for sports leagues and athletes and owners
and all teams and all these different people affiliated with awards.
There's a lot of noise, but most of the time,
if you ignore the noise and just focus on your craft,
your sport itself, the noise disappears and you don't have

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to embolden or respond to people who are making outlandish claims.
And I think it's an instructive example of what happened
in the world of the of the golf compared to
major League Baseball and Rob Manford, by the way, has
still not canceled his Master's membership. So so much of

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these cancel culture decisions are total bs when they're actually
broken down right, like there isn't any tangible evidence of
of any real outlandish protest. And you know, it's interesting,
I was thinking about this so old school. I worked

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on Capitol Hill UM back during the Bill Clinton impeachment trial,
and I was the lowest man on the totem pole.
I was in college at the time, and I was
in charge of stacking all the responses pro and con
for whether Bill Clinton should be impeached. And one of
the things that they found out with the way that

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people would send mail in Congress was they would get
a lot of different people to sign on, and they
might send you a thousand or ten thousand or five
thousand or whatever it was pieces of mail, but they
were all identical and they just had a different name
on them. And it was because these groups, which were
perpetually outraged, would try to convince you that way more

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people cared about a particular side of an issue than
really did by sort of these mass mail drops that
they would bring to bear on contentious issues, And I
remember literally ground bottom level uh in a congressman's office,
sitting there and opening all of these different uh, these

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different opinions, and what it was was manufactured outrage. People
really weren't as angry as these letters would have you believe.
And I think that's transferred from loading down congressman's offices
with negative opinions or positive petinion opinions of any bill

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that aren't really representative but are designed to make you
think that this is a big deal. That's social media
every day. A lot of these companies basically have rigged bots,
and so there it looks like a thousand people really
care about something, and it might be twenty people that
have all these different fake accounts constantly peppering you from

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those fake accounts. And one of the things that I've
even noticed on out kick uh, as you know, when
I dive in and read mentions every now and then
I'll block somebody because it's like just hyper negative or whatever,
and I don't do it very often. I've we've got
I don't know, eight hundred thousand people probably who follow us, uh,
nine hundred maybe a million people who follow us on

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on social media, and I bet we've blocked five or
six hundred people total. But what's interesting is when somebody
gets blocked, that person almost always has a series of
anonymous accounts that are all linked. In other words, they
have like a bunch of different burner accounts to try
to make whatever they're arguing look more substantial than it

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actually is. And so one of the lessons that I
would take away from a Ductu matsu yamas when at
the Masters, is all of this outrage, this cancel culture,
this boycott universe vanishes if you can hold out and
actually get to the point of the actual uh athletic
event itself beginning, as opposed to allowing yourself to be

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overtaken by all that anger and vitriol and everything else.
I think it's just a good lesson, and I think
it's a good lesson for a lot of you out
there too, regardless, because as a I who's found himself
in the center of a lot of media hurricanes over
the years, I can tell you almost every story vanishes
after twenty four hours. People are outraged, they take their
pound of flesh, they're so mad, and then they move

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on to something else. And I think that's what we
saw with the Masters, and I think it's what we
would have seen with the All Star Game if for
Rob Manford hadn't blown it, if he had kept the
All Star Game in Atlanta. All right, when we come back,
we're gonna be joined by my buddy chadwith Row at
OutKick three sixty. Also, let me give you a roadmap
of where we're headed. John McClain from the Houston Chronicle
of schedule to join us in the second hour. We'll

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talk NFL and obviously Deshaun Watson with him as he
covers the Houston Texans, and then Petro's Papadeka scheduled to
join us in the third hour. This is Outkicked the
coverage with Clay Travis. We are joined now by John McClain.
He's been at the Houston Chronicle for forty five years,
and I bet he never foresaw, even in his wildest dreams,

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certainly prior to Scott Drew being hired, that the Baylor
men's basketball program will become national champions. John, I believe
you're in the Baylor Sports Hall of Fame. They're probably
gonna have some Baylor Bears on that basketball team that
eventually joined you. If they're not already in that Hall
of Fame. What did it mean for Baylor to win
a national championship in basketball? How much enjoyment did you

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get out of it? Gay as you can imagine. I
spent last week on Cloud nine as good every Baylor alum,
and I never thought Baylor would ever return to prominence
after the scandal they had in which Carlton Dodson Blair
killed another one, Brian Denny, and went to prison, and
I thought they were going to fold the program. And
then they hired his kid that looked like he's about

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fifteen years old, named Scott Drew. I knew about his dad,
Homer didn't know anything about him. I thought he'd be there,
could three years, get fired. He lasted eighteen years. And
you talk about good timing. Baylor is gonna build a
new arena and they have the plans and they're just
deciding where, and they've raised a lot of money, but
they need some more money. And when you win a

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national championship, those alarms are just gonna write checks. And
I've been proposing on my two weekly shows in Wakeo
that they build a statute to two statues, one to
Scott Drew for his national championship and another one to
the winner's coach, Kim Monkey, has won three national championship,
So the timing was great for recruiting, and the timing

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was great for a new building, I imagine for people
out there who don't know how low the Baylor men's
basketball program got. We talked about this a lot on
the show last week. We're talking about as bad of
a scandal as can possibly exist when Scott Drew took
over that program. But even before then, John, I think
almost in your entire lifetime, prior to Scott Drew, the

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program had been to the n C Double A Tournament
maybe once. Uh So, what he has accomplished is not
just the incredible and impressive relative to any championship that
that gets one in college basketball, but one of the
most impressive rebuilding jobs we've ever seen leading to a
national championship. When I was eight years old and I
was a Cub scout, I went to my first Baylor

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football and basketball game, and I was sold on Baylor
as a big fan. And later we moved one block
from the heart of Texas College sum where the men played,
and I just walked to James So I went to
games when I was growing up a lot, and they
never won the Southwest Conference. The best they could do
was finished seconds and they never got a chance back

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then to go to the tournament. And they're the greatest
player in school history. Vinnie Johnson and went on to
me that Microwaves Motor Motor City Bad Boys went back
to back NBA titles, and then they finally started getting
a few NBA players and it was fun to watch them.
But then that program under Dave Bliss. I remember when

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he beat Kansas for the first time in the students
stormed the court. I was watching on TV and thought, man,
it will never get much better than this. And when
the when the program went straight down the toilet and blessed.
Of course, was was just ridiculed across the country. He
was fired. I noticed before that game he'd been coaching

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high schools in Las Vegas and had retired here San
Antonio to be close to his grandkids. But I think,
you know, you don't see how many times you see
one player murder another one and go to prison. You
just do was God drew team and they couldn't play
non conference games, and they had severe scholarship limited ations

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and Drew put out a call for walk ons, and
he said, we're not just looking for walk on Philip
the end of the bench. If you come here as
a walk on and you're good, you got a chance
to play at a major college program. And I think
the first year you won four games. And if you
throw away the first three years of drew his career
when he had severe restrictions, he's averaged twenty something victories

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a year since. And and he wasn't till last year
Clay when they won twenty two in a row and
they spent like twelve weeks at number one, and so
all Baylor fans good fired up. Baylor's going to the
Final four for the first time this nineteen fifty. When
you won one game, you are automatically in the last four,
and it wasn't called the final four. They played their

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championship game in forty eight against Adolf RUPs Kentucky team
and got beat But uh, last year, people thought they
had a good chance, and then of course they didn't
have the tournament because of COVID nineteen. They thought the
guards were gonna leave and go to the the NBA. They
all tested to check sea where they were going to
be drafted, and they were told second round and they

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wouldn't be drafted. So the three of them, Jared Butler,
UH navy On, Mitchell and Mayzie o t decided to
come back and they worked out great because they won
a national championship and Butler and Mitchell could return again,
they won't because both are gonna be first round picks
and Mitchell's being projected as a lottery picks. So everybody

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wishes them the very best because even though a lot
of players before them, they helped turn around the program,
you know, which was on dev door, help him climb
out of the grave, so to speak. It was these
guys that actually will run a championship and that may
be the last one they win forever, and they will
They will never have to drive by a dinner in Waco.

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There's no doubt. We're talking too. Proud alum of the
Baylor men's basketball uh success here, but a proud alum
of Baylor University, John McClain. He has been covering the
NFL for forty five years with the Houston Chronicle. So
I want to go into the draft, John, And one
of the things that's interesting about sports gambling being legalized

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is you can start to see the money being wagered
and get a pretty good sense of where guys are going.
And so right now, Trevor Lawrence to the Jags basically
a foregone conclusion. But it also seems like Zack Wilson
to the Jets and now Mac Jones to the forty
Niners has become a big favorite to to be their
pick with number three overall selection. Would that surprise you

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if Mac Jones ends up the quarterback? I imagine you're,
like most people, pretty sold on Trevor Lawrence to the
Jags and Zack Wilson to the Jets. Absolutely, Clay as
far as three, I think about this, Kyle Sandy is
not stupid, and how why is he gonna tell his
buddy Chris Sam's who he's gonna draft, Because Chris SAMs

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is the first one that started predicting Mike Jones and
then um and then people say, well, he didn't go
to Wiles States Pro Day, he went to Alabama's pro Day.
Well you can go to the second ALIAS Day pro
Day with Justin Fales, or you can watch all the video.
You don't need to be there. So I don't think
they're going to give it away because obviously they have

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more than one choice. What I'd be curious did they
try to trade up a spot with the Jets jetson
is loaded for the next two years. Would they be
interested in moving up for Zach Wilson? Are they really
satisfied with one of the other guys that they know
they can get? And I think it's very intriguing. Whatever
we pick in our mark draft, all it takes is

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Kyle Shanahan to surprises and there goes most of the
top part of the first round, screws up everything. What
if he took Kyle Pitts. Pits is a usually behind
Trevor lawrencey is the second highest rated players just to
matter who's going to take him. But five quarterbacks should
go in the top ten. And I'm wondering claimed if
one of these others, like Kellen mont A Texas A

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and m Kyle Trasca Florida, one of them slips into
the bottom of the first round for a team that
say trades back in like Baltimore did with Lamar Jackson,
or somebody down there that has an older quarterback, or
in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh needs a quarterback one day trade back
into the first round to get one. But I'm not
so sure that it's just gonna meet five going in

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the first round because so many teams are still desperate.
You mentioned Kyle Pitts last week on the show. I
started pulling people, Hey, anything can happen with first round picks. Uh,
look at what happened with Isaiah Wilson Tennessee Tye his
first round pick last year, one of the biggest busts
so far in NFL history. If I had to pick
one player that I'm convinced will be really good for

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the next six to eight years, I think it would
be Kyle Pitts. Doesn't mean he couldn't get hurt, doesn't
mean it's an inexact science, as you will here said
a gob of times between now and a couple of
weeks from now when the draft actually takes place. But
it's Kyle Pitts to you, the biggest can't miss guy,
given that quarterback swinging miss with him all the time.

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Does Kyle Pitts speed, strength, catchability, catch radius the production
that we saw from him, Uh in the SEC Is
he a guy that's going to step in and maybe
be the most reliable of anybody taken in the top
of the draft. He is certainly not a tight end.
He's not a blocker, but he just mentioned all those
things he can do. He can line up outside, he

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can line up in the slot. He could line up
on the line of scrimmage. He can grow in motion.
He could because of that size advantage in his hands
and toughness and the and the strength of his hands,
he can go up. He's going to be a monster
for defensive backs. I feel sorry every year for defensive backs.
Most of them still aren't six foot and yet they

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don't get taller, but the receivers just keep getting taller
and taller. And I don't know why. One time, years ago,
build ourselves told me, because all of the corners are
playing point guard in the NBA, it's easier to go
in the NBA and play point guard when you're six
foot than it is UH to play UH to play

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corner against these receivers that just keep getting larger. And
Pet's man, he's just loaded with ability. He did it
in the best conference. And now if he goes to
a team with a good quarterback who knows how to
utilize him, like say the Patriots did with Lib Gronkowski,
because they lined him up all over the field. He
you know, he could play ten years, He could play more.

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We're talking to John McLean. Encourage you to go follow
him at McLean Underscore on Underscore NFL. Go read him
at the Houston Chronicle that that if we're correct, that
quarterbacks are going one, two and three, and right now
the oddsmakers would tell us it's Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson,
Mac Jones one to three. The Falcons are sitting at four.
You know Arthur Smith a little bit. Do you believe

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that he is a believer in uh Matt Ryan or
do you think he would like to get a younger quarterback?
In other words, we were just talking about Kyle Pitts.
Is he looking for a weapon to pair with with
Matt Ryan and certainly Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley in
terms of what they already have on the offensive side,
or do you think he wants a fresh start? What's

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his anticipation? Uh? In your mind as he looks at
that Falcons Roster Clay, they got receivers and I don't
care how good pits. Jamaar Chase has, James Bondelle and
Davonte Smith. Those guys are great prospects, but they got receivers.
Unless they were thinking, okay, nexat year, we're gonna cut

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ties with Jones. Could he's too expensive? They redid Matt
Ryan's contract. He's thirty six, here is all. He can
still play. One thing that Ponteau and Smith and Rich
McKay and Arthur Blank have to be thinking, we're not
thinking up here anymore. You know, this is an apperration.
We're not picking number four. We're gonna be a whole
lot better. So this is a time where they're going

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to have a chance to take a ali writing quarterback.
And he could sit a here too. What if it's
Tray Lance. Trey Lance played one game last year for
North Dakota State and the last time he played regularly
was two years ago, So everybody thinks he's gonna need
the most time to develop. If they like him, take him,
you know, take the quarterback because you can get everything else.

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You've got to have that position solidified. But remember Arthur Smith,
coach tight ends for a long time, was the Titan,
so he loves tight ends. And you know Smith would
love to get his hands on cow pits. You know,
he's He's coached a lot different ways with the Titans,
as he came up from basically an entry level position

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over his ten year career, and yes, he ended up
as a coordinator and he coached. He coached to one
of the most productive offenses in the league, the most
balanced offense. The man, I'll guarantee if he could get
his hands on Pits, he'd like to do it so fun. Though.
Then he comes from New Orleans, so he's he's got
a certain way of doing it where you don't necessarily

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add the best player. But he's used to picking at
the bottom, and he's got to think, Okay, we're not
gonna pick here again. So I have had in my
last two moth drafts been taking a quarterback. At some point,
I'm gonna have him take Pits. But my last one,
in the middle of the day before the draft, my
official one. I think I'm going to go back to
a quarterback unless someone can convince me differently. That would

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make it the first time in history we've had quarterbacks.
But one to three four we're talking to John McLean
Houston Chronicle. Okay, obviously, you have spent an inordinate amount
of time covering a story that I anticipate you never
thought you would be covering, and that is Deshaun Watson
and what's going to happen there. So I saw the
story I believe it came out Monday about the Houston

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Texans continuing to distance themselves more and more. I guess
they have sort of an introductory video of some sort
that they play. You. You probably can understand that better
or know exactly what that is. And they're not really
featuring him as the face of the franchise anymore. The
Texans don't have a pick in the first or the
second round. From a purely football perspective, what is going on?

(29:35):
What do you think the Texans are looking towards as
they start to plan for some of these mini camps
and certainly for the draft in a couple of weeks
pay before Watson had those twenty two lawsuits filed against
him and his sponsors um ditched him and night Case
suspended him. Um, So it doesn't surprise me what the
Texans did. So is he canna imagine what a huge

(29:57):
story this is in Houston? And I thought before the
loss they were going to get six teams to bid
for him, and so that the general manager Neccessario, as
we got call right up to the draft, would wait
on the best deal. And if you think about six
teams bidding for a player, and some of them have

(30:19):
a couple of them having multiple number ones the next
two years, they will open to get three ones, two
twos and a defensive starter, and they might ask for more.
It never hurts to ask, right, And so now I
don't know anybody that thinks they're gonna be able to
trade Watson before the draft. And he has said he
will not come back here, and we're not playing for
his team, So I don't expect to see any time

(30:40):
in all season program, whether it's virtual or as they
actually get on the field or no t A s.
And then when drink amps here, don't expect to see him.
And so he could end up suspended. He could end
up on the NFL Commissioners exemple US, which would allow
him to get paid and not play until everything was
sorted out. Right now, they've gone from hoping to train

(31:03):
him to jomp start their rebuild to everything's on the hold.
Every team I've talked to, somebody from that team of
our who covers that team has told me everybody has
backed away waiting to see Now. I believe eventually this
will be behind him. You don't know how long that'll be,
but when it is, somebody is going to get a

(31:24):
great quarterback, but one whose reputation has been tarnished forever.
So that presumes I guess that Torod Taylor is going
to be the quarterback most likely. I think that's fair
to say. On the field starting in September, what exactly
do the Texans do? Right? I know it's hard to
tank in football, but given the fact that this is

(31:45):
a four and twelve team last year that lost a
lot of close games down the stretch, is it the
smartest thing? And also given the fact they don't have
a first in a second round pick, is it on
some level uh likely in your mind that this is
a bad Houston Texans team and they would theoretically be
back in the top half of the first round next
year with their pick. I think they get their pick

(32:05):
back unless unless you don't have anything you can correct
me if I'm wrong, and then you're going and finding
a young quarterback potentially there. It's been three out of
four years without a number one pick. They finally will
get another one in two thousand and twenty two when
they had their picks in the first and second round,
and to Rod Taylor his last two times he was

(32:25):
taken it to be the starter going into the two
thousand eighteen season with Cleveland, he got hurt and they
had to play Baker Mayfield before he was ready. The
rest is Brown's history. Last year with the Chargers, Anthony
Lynn may He is the starter that Justin Herbert has
not playing and he got hurt and with getting an
injection after the first game play, Herbert got forced into

(32:49):
the lineup, and the rest is Chargers history. So even
though Taylor had four consecutive years of starting at Buffalo,
including two thousand seventeen with Texas coach David Holly as
his quarterback coach, you know it's a good chance they
could get hurt again. So Ryan Finley from Cincinnati, who
started three games in two years of backup, So I
think they will get another quarterback. And I'm glad you

(33:12):
brought this up because Sunday I wrote a column that's
on our sports website, Texas sports Nation dot com about
when they take a quarterback in the third round. They
have the R sixties seventh overall pick, quarterback like Kellen
Monto Texas and m R com would be there in
Florida if those guys were rated a second round picks
by Nick to Serio and he didn't have to reach

(33:35):
to get one. And I think, yes, they could take
one of those quarterbacks if they were there. We're talking
to John McClean. Uh. John Julian Edelman released a video
on Monday announcing his retirement, saying basically he didn't have
anything left in his body. Uh in order to be
able to still play. Is Julian Edelman in your mind

(33:55):
a Hall of Fame wide receiver. When I get asked
questions about airs at the end of their career, Clay,
I've got to If they don't, if it's not automatic,
I gotta think about it. But if I was going
to put a slot receiver in all of Fame, I
would put Wes Welker in before Julian Edelman. Edelman made
some great plays in big games, played great with Brady.

(34:15):
Wes Welker played great with Brady. I'm not saying he's not.
I would think about it a lot. Five years the mouth.
I'm still on the committee because he was a really
good player at times great but to me, you've got
to be consistently great to be in all of fame.
Have you been back to the movie theater yet? And
I went back to see to the movie theater for

(34:38):
the first time Sunday, and I have a movie to
recommend to all your listeners. Nobody with Bob oden Kirk.
It was great. It kind of reminded me of the
John Wick movies, which I love. Bob oden Kirk who's
basically a salesman and all of a sudden the mob
comes after him, and man they regretted when they do.

(34:58):
My life and I both thought it was great. Nobody
Nobody Saw Goodman, by the way, is how who Bob
oden Kirk is most known for, both in the Breaking
Bad series and also Uh in the series where he
plays that same character, which I haven't watched, but I
hear is absolutely phenomenal. Uh. And he is an incredibly

(35:19):
talented writer. What did it feel like to be back
in a movie theater. It's only like five people in there.
We want Sunday afternoon, and it felt good to go back.
We wore masks the whole time and and UH, this
theater we go to on the open a week before
and then one of the guys that runs it's a
friend of mine and he said it's slow, mature, and

(35:40):
and it was fun to be back seeing things on
a big screen, especially an action movie like this with
a lot of serious serious action fighting killing car ranks.
And it was very well written, very well acted. The
better Call Saul, Bob Odenkirk Storing and nobody better Call

(36:01):
Saul is the show that's name escaped me right there.
I took my kids to go see Wonder Woman on
the Imax a while back, and uh, and they absolutely
loved it too. So it's good to be back in theaters.
John McClain, I appreciate you starting off your morning with us.
We'll talk to you again, I hope sometime soon. Appreciate it,
my man play it's my place that thank you very much.
As all like this is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis.

(36:29):
I'm back here Tuesday, as I told you to start
off the show, because I was at WrestleMania thirty seven
down in Tampa on uh Sunday night, and I've traveled
back on Monday, and it was an awesome time sitting
ringside seeing how athletic all these different performers were. My

(36:49):
wife has been a long time w w E fan.
She was at WrestleMania three as and uh she was
as big of a fan as you can imagine at
you know, six, seven, eight years old. Then she still
had her Ricky the Dragon Steamboat shirt. And so we
were sitting ringside for WrestleMania right where everybody walks down

(37:11):
the ramp for those of you who watch WrestleMania, and
by the way, I understand some of you don't, but
I think wrestling is wildly entertaining. If you've got young kids,
they often love it. And it was cool to be
in a rucous atmosphere like that fans. The last event
they had had inside of the Tampa Bay Stadium there

(37:35):
was the Super Bowl that Tom Brady and crew won,
and so that was just an awful, I mean so
awesome experience to get to see fans coming back in
big numbers, twenty five thousand there. And I think, honestly,
given the fact that the reports are that by April nineteen,
basically any adult in any state is going to be

(37:58):
able to have a covidvaccine appointment if you want to
get your vaccine and if you want to then be
in the crowd, or if you're not willing to get
a vaccine, but you want to be in the crowd
and you're willing to take that risk. I think we've
got to get back to full crowds inside of full
stadiums sooner rather than later. I know they're already doing
it in Texas, but I'm perfectly fine with being in

(38:22):
a crowded stadium myself. I understand if some of you
are not, but uh, I don't think that some people's
fears should dictate the choices and freedoms of other people
at this point in time. I think it's gone on
for a long time. And I was talking about this
on my OutKick the show yesterday. Some people say, well
have you talked about this? Because I think that getting

(38:46):
back to normalcy in sports is an important window into
getting back to normalcy in American life. And so given
the fact that hopefully everybody who is in particular risk
here of an elderly nature is rapidly being vaccinated, younger
people are not. Certainly kids are not in any real
way in danger, and so I think we should be

(39:08):
able to have full stadium sooner rather than later. But
credit to the w w E. H thanks to President
Nick con who is uh my former agent at C
A A and who is now running w w E
underneath Vince McMahon, and he does a fantastic job there
and uh and so I think it's gonna be uh,

(39:29):
it's gonna be interesting to see how going forward the
w w E events are all set out and the crowds.
But it was awesome to see all these wrestlers being
able to play it up to the crowd and have
everybody back in the stadium to be able to watch
that event. So we had an awesome time down there.
A bunch of storylines that we've been tracking throughout the
course of the show. Encourage you to go download the podcast.

(39:50):
Make sure you don't miss a single minute. My buddy
Chad with Row from the OutKick three sixty was on
with us in the first hour of the program. Second hour,
John McClain was with us from the Houston Chronicle. He's
been covering the NFL for forty five years and obviously
a big story that is out there is Julian Edelman
deciding to retire, and I think it was pretty cool

(40:14):
the way that he announced his retirement. On the screen,
it says Foxboro Forever, and in fact doub Let's play
maybe a minute or so of that Julian Edelman announcement
here at the top of the third hour to let
people hear that in the event they didn't see it
on Monday evening, as he basically announces that his mind

(40:36):
is willing, but his body is no longer willing and
he's not going to be able to continue. So here
is that. Nothing in my career has ever come easy,
and no surprise, this isn't gonna be easy either. Now.
I've always said I'm going till the wheels come off,
and uh, they finally fallen off due to an injury

(41:02):
last year. I'll be making my official announcement of my
retirement from football. It was a hard decision, but the
right decision for me and my family, and I'm honored
and so proud to be retiring a Patriot. There are

(41:26):
a million people I have to thank, Mr Kraft, the
Craft family. I've learned so much from you guys on
and off the field. Coach Belichick giving him an opportunity,
I always love you for that. My teammates have gone
to war, We've lost some we've won some You guys

(41:49):
will always be my brothers. To all my coaches that
I played under, I appreciate all your insight, all your
hard work, all your knowledge. The entire Patriots organization, from
the meal ladies, the people that clean up after us,
to people in the hallways, the training staff, the strength staff.

(42:11):
We share so many awesome memories. But I'll never forget
and of course my family. You guys have always had
my back. It's been the best twelve years of my life.
It's hell over run and I can't forget you Patrion Nation.

(42:34):
You guys have welcomed me and my family to a
region we do not know. We didn't know, but now
I'm one of you. I'm gonna leave you guys with
two words, Foxboro Forever. So Julian Edelman announcing his retirement.
I understand if some of you are skeptical out there,

(42:54):
and you think, hey, it's April. What if he's able
to get himself back healthier by September? Tom Brady calls,
is there any possibility that he could go down to
Tampa Bay and rejoin Gronk and the crew. It's an
interesting question if his body were able to I think
he would love to do that. This is a warrior,
But I would say this about Gronk, Sorry, I would

(43:15):
say this about Edelman. We asked the question, how do
you balance a career? Because to me, Julian Edelman is
one of the greatest postseason performers in NFL history. He
is in fact second most all time in both catches
and receiving yard the NFL season, behind Jerry Rice. And

(43:39):
I asked a straightforward question. A lot of people hopped
on it on Monday night. I said, is Julian Edelman
a Hall of Famer? And sixty of you said that
he is not a Hall of Famer? And so to me,
the Julian Edelman is he or is he not? A
Hall of Famer? Basically comes down to what sort of

(44:02):
relevancy And wait, do you put on a postseason dominant career,
which is what Julian Edelman had, including a Super Bowl
fifty three m v P versus a regular season career,
And how do you assess that in terms of figuring
out whether or not a guy is a Hall of

(44:24):
Fame level player. And so I think in the postseason, Julian,
if you were just ranking players based on their postseason
careers Julian Edelman's Hall of Famer. If you're just ranking
people based on their regular season careers, Julian Edelman is
not a Hall of Famer. So when you combine those two,

(44:46):
how do you do it? I think he's probably gonna
come up a little bit short. And I think one reason, ironically,
is going to be because of how good Tom Brady is.
Because I think a lot of people are going to
say Tom Brady made Julian Edelman the quality of player
that he was, and that's what makes Brady's excellence so

(45:07):
much more glistening to me is that if you go
back and look at the New England Patriot dynasty, which
I think it's fair to say is over now. I
don't think Cam Newton is going to have some sort
of extension of the New England Patriot dynasty without Gronk,
without without Edelman, without Randy Moss back in the day.
This team has had to be remade several different times.

(45:29):
But I think the dynasty in New England is over.
And so if you are out there looking at Tom
Brady's career, I think one of the most remarkable things
about his career is there's only two shore Fire Hall
of Famers that he ever threw passes to in New England,
Randy Mosson, Rob Grenkowski. That's it. Can make an argument

(45:49):
for Wes Welker can make an argument for uh, Julian Edelman.
Nobody else is really in that stratosphere. No running back
is ever really been dominant enough that you would even
consider them as a potential Hall of Famer. And so
you look at what Brady accomplished in New England, you
look at the dynasty that he created. There's no incredible

(46:11):
offensive talent that surrounds him that was synonymous with his dominance.
And that's pretty crazy. It doesn't happen very often in
the world of the NFL. So, taking Julian Edelman at
his word, as you just heard from the Hall of
Fame announcement that we played there, his career is over.
I think he's the Hall of very Good, unlikely to

(46:33):
reach the Hall of Fame because I think the Balancing
Act regular season, his numbers were not impressive enough. Postseason
wildly impressive, but not quite enough to get him there.
UM also other stories that are out there. Uh, And
we talked about this a little bit at the top
of our two if you want to hear me putting
on my lawyer hat to discuss it. Britt Reid, the

(46:55):
son of Andy Reid, former assistant coach of the Camp
the City Chiefs, has been charged with felony d u
I in regards to the traffic accident that he had
that has severely injured a five year old girl. That
traffic accident happened on February four. Britt Reid was reportedly

(47:16):
driving an excess of eighty miles an hour, right around
eighty five miles an hour, and he had a blood
alcohol level of point one one three. So he has
been called charged with felony d w I. He faces
one to seven years in prison for those charges. And
I would say from an NFL perspective, this is a
tragic story, but the connection to the NFL going forward

(47:40):
is I do wonder on some level whether there's going
to be an aggressive investigation into where britt read was
drinking and if it could have been at the Kansas
City chief facility. Indeed, Dan Wetzel, who writes a great
national column for Yahoo uh Sports, has been asked that

(48:00):
exact question, how would you assess the chiefs potential culpability
in britt Reid's traffic accident that injured so severely this
five year old girl and has led to a felony
DUI charge. Where was he drinking? Could it have been
at the Chiefs facility? That is a story that may

(48:20):
continue to grow as it pertains to the NFL involvement.
And speaking of stories that continue, Deshaun Watson um just
a mess of a situation for him. You heard us
talking about that a little bit with John McClain in
the second hour of the program. But the Houston Texans

(48:40):
seemed to be officially saying goodbye in many ways to
Deshaun Watson. They are removing him from all their marketing campaigns.
I don't think he'll ever play another snap my opinion
in Houston, And the question is how long is he
going to be out of football in general? Given how
much of a man s So much of this story

(49:02):
that surrounds him is now and so far I have
not been impressed with the legal defense that Rusty Harden,
his attorney, has brought to bear in all of these cases.
So this is a big story that remains to be unpacked.
I wanted to give you the latest on it. Glad
to be back in the studio after taking Monday off

(49:22):
to travel back from Tampa. Incredible time down at WrestleMania.
Encourage you guys, we go to break. Petros Papadakis is
going to join us. He is as always fantastic. Should
be a lot of fun with him. This is Outkicked
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(50:06):
you get your podcasts. Been breaking down a lot of
different stories out there. One that we haven't talked about
on the air, but we wrote about it out Kick.
As you hear Petro's Papadakas walk up music A M
five seventy l A Sports at the Old p on Twitter,
Petros and Money Show, many of you will hear him
in the afternoon Petro's you updated me on this story

(50:26):
or made me aware of it. I don't know that
I would have hardly even recognized it or seeing it
without you um that there was a homeless person inside
of the USC football facilities, and that that homeless person
had miraculously eating meals, hanging hung out in the jaccuzzi,
and ultimately was only caught when he was returning punts.

(50:50):
For people who may not have heard this story, because
it sounds like it's not I mean, it sounds like
such a crazy story that it couldn't possibly be real.
You've gotten some details on it. What did the world
happened at SC that this could even occur? Well, first
of all, the story is a real. UM. I didn't
have to vet the story because it was already vetted

(51:13):
through a very reputable reporter who has been covering USC
forever and was a student there and the editor of
the Daily Trojan decades ago. And that guy's name is
Scott Wolfe, and he's the guy that broke the story,
and you guys properly accredited him in your article, and

(51:35):
so it was his story. Now, Scott Wolfe might not
be the most popular guy among some other people that
cover USC football because Scott Wolfe is kind of the
opposite of a sycophan, But that didn't make the story
any less true. And it's a remarkable story. And you know,
there's a lot of different angles to it. I mean,

(51:57):
there's a funny angle they there is a very serious angle,
and then there's a more telling angle about USC and
what the place is. But the really frightening thing about
it much more than a homeless guy who kind of
looks like a college football player in a jacuzzi with

(52:18):
other college football players who are five starry in Lada
or sitting with them and eating their food, ultimately getting
a helmet and the jersey and cleats and getting out
there in a number. He was number seven out there
returning punts until it finally got people enough, uh wrankled enough,

(52:42):
I guessed, because from what I understand, I mean, there's
a lot to this Clay, but from what I understand
is that he was recognized by people as not belonging there.
But kind of like the end of the movie Unforgiven,
where when it comes down to it, nobody knows how
to shoot Clint Eastwood spoiler alert, Yeah, Uh nobody, Uh,

(53:03):
nobody could pull the trigger basically and say like, hey,
please get out of here. Like nobody could corral him
because USC no longer has a director of security. That
position was eliminated three years ago by Lynn Swann and
that guy you know, you see that guy, he's a
police detective at the Torrents Police He would have known

(53:24):
exactly how to handle it, or he would have had
somebody handle Why did they Why did they pull him down?
Why did they eliminate their Yeah? Why did they? Why
did they eliminate? Was it money? Just like the cost
limb Swan said they weren't going to have any scandals anymore,
so they didn't need him. I wish I was kidding. Yeah,
I mean that's a crazy perspective. I was so really

(53:45):
no one knew what to do, like because they caught
him sleeping in the suites at the coliseum, which cost
millions of dollars, I think ten million dollars to have
your whole family in there every week for USC home game.
And it's a it's a mind modeling situation. But the
thing that disturbed me more than any of that is

(54:08):
the fact that the cowardly Los Angeles media. I'm talking
about the l A Times, the l A Daily News,
these people who work at these great beacons of these
places where we've gone for our news and production and
all that stuff for years, and they still have many
great writers, but they have not covered the story. And

(54:30):
I knew the story was true U it was vetted
by Scott Wolf. I went back and vetted it with
security people that I know through USC. The story is
one true. The guy is still at large. The search continues.
They think he's still on campus, and they put some
guy at the medical school which is in East l A,

(54:51):
the Keech Medical School, if you want to look that up.
For USC, they have their share of scandals. Some guy
over there is in charge of the investigation. It doesn't
seem like it makes a lot of sense. No one's
reporting it except for me and Scott Wolf here in town,
and then of course the national people very much fueled

(55:12):
by OutKick the coverage. So it's a wild story. But
it really is kind of a litmus litmus test for
the l A media, Like, you know, if somebody's going
to cover USC football or really anything honestly, to see
whether or not they've covered this or mentioned it. Even
the blind long snapper do you know, the blind Yeah, yeah,

(55:32):
I saw him make a joke and like tweet about it.
Even Jake has acknowledged this and he's blind, so's it's
an amazing story. And the more amazing part about the
story to me is that USC is trying to act
like it didn't happen and clearly encouraging their allies or
threatening them with pulling their credential or something, uh for

(55:55):
for reporting it, because no one, like none of those
beat writers, none of those people that have to deal
with USC every day, are reporting on it. And my
thing is, like, what the hell are you scared of?
You guys treat the lakers worse than that, Like who cares?
Like what? Why tell the story? You know? The more
they don't tell the story, the more I want to
tell it every day, you know what I'm saying, and

(56:16):
use all these platforms. You know what's wild? I didn't
I hardly got any attention and I don't know how
this happened. But didn't USC just settle a case for
like a billion dollars? Oh yeah, the uh the sexual
assaultoist campus. That's a sore spot. You know, my whole
phil I was like a billion dollars right. I mean

(56:38):
I saw the headline for like a fraction of a
second and then it vanished, and I was like, this
can't be real. A bill that's my era, and my
wife went to school there and my sister, and it's
not cool. Uh, that's a really bad deal. And then
they also have a terrible scandal with the medical being
to the medical school, you know, on the one with
the hookers and the overdose in Pasadene. And remember that guy, yeah,

(57:03):
I remember that. Yeah. And then the guy that took
over for him also had some sexual harassment issues. And
then they just crucified business dean who didn't deserve it
at all and was well respected and burned a bunch
of bridges there. I mean, they just can't. They have
a really hard time. At least they at least they
haven't been selling admissions through fake athletic scholarships. No, that's

(57:25):
the thing. Like, there's been three major uh FBI stories
with colleges in the last few years. Right, help me
out here. You have varsity blues, you have the basketball thing.
Is there another one? Maybe just two? I mean that's
a lot for us has involved in all of them. Yeah,

(57:49):
an athletic department to be involved in multiple FBI investigations.
Well yeah, and they had the highest ranking person in
Donna Heinel, who appointed by Pat Hayden, basically in charge
of all the women's sports at USC. They had the
highest ranking person busted in the Varsity Blue scandal. So
I mean it's unfortunate. Uh, it's still a great place.

(58:10):
I think the student body at USC is great. I
think the students at USC UH have a lot to
a lot to be proud of. It's a really hard
school to get into, much harder than when I was younger.
I think the faculty is excellent and always has been,
and really that's the best part of any college. That's

(58:31):
the best you can ask for. But administratively, USC has
had big problems. And it starts with a guy who
was the president named Max Nikias, a fellow Greek American. Sadly,
and uh that's a whole story for another day. But
I mean it all just kind of you know, if
this was a story that happened at like, let's say
a really stable considered to be stable, you know, let's

(58:54):
say it happened at Georgia. Okay, I mean this is
not the first homeless guy to wander into a locker room. Mean,
I know what happened to Colorado and the team beat
the crap out of a guy um. And there are stories,
you know, all over colleges, you know their places where
there's people just like anywhere else. But this, uh, if
this happened like to Kirby Smarts team, like it would

(59:17):
be funny, people would report on it and the world
would keep going. But because at USC there's such a
like lineage of embarrassment after embarrassment after embarrassment, you know,
dating back to the Reggie Bush saying all the way
to Lane Kiffin fired on a tarmac, Steve Sarkisian life
exploding on the job, you know, the whole Ato Giron

(59:39):
thing and how that didn't work out, Clay Helton's whole thing.
I mean, it has been arduous and from the end
of the Peat Carroll era on Pat Hayden and Lynn Swan,
and now it just makes it look like more of
a circus, you know. So it's that it doesn't become
a human interest story. It becomes a very embarrassing story,

(59:59):
and it becomes story that they're trying to sweep under
the rug, which is making it a bigger story. You're
fired up this morning. I appreciate you coming on Spetra
pad A seventy l A sports. Uh, what do you
think about when's the last time you watched wrestling? I
was at WrestleMania on Sunday night. Did you were you
like a whole Cogan macho man? Yeah, I sent uh.

(01:00:22):
It's funny my cousin Mark Pappas uh, who's a clerk
down on the docks and was a really good football player.
I we I watched the ho Cogan versus The Ultimate Warrior,
you know that one, uh whatever it was called and
whatever WrestleMania that was like we were into it. And
I remember watching that at his parents house and the

(01:00:43):
Anniversary was just the other day, So I tweeted uh.
I sent him a tweet of the acknowledgement of the
Anniversary and we had a good laugh. I would say
that was about the last big wrestling match I was
ever interested in. Uh. I've been around wrestlers through work
and like that, and I know it's a really lucrative
thing for Fox. The interesting thing about wrestling, you know,

(01:01:05):
if you have that contract as opposed to like the
NFL or the NBA, like you don't hire the announcers
and like say, okay, we're gonna have Rob Stone and
Bob Stoops and Brady Quinn sitting at the desk. No, yeah,
that's a good point. They just hand you a tape
and you put it in and you push play. Like

(01:01:25):
they take care of it. But like, one of the
big wrestling production guys was one of the guys that
produced a lot of my games this year at Fox
because he was in studio and very capable and a
lot of fun to work with. Guy named Brad Wimer,
and he's really into it and it was all about
it and like the modern stuff. But you know, to me,

(01:01:48):
it's like after the Junkyard Dog, you know where you're
gonna go from there, after Cocoa be Ware and the
Big Boss Man. You know, come on. I was a
huge wrestling fan as a kid growing up, and it's
one of those things that I've gotten back into because
of my kids, because they were interested in it, so
I was like, oh, this is something I'll watch. In
Baseball honestly is one of those things too because your

(01:02:12):
kids you get to see being a fan through their
eyes again, which is just so much fun. And the
same thing was true for me for wrestling, like baseball
in our house every night. Now we've got an Atlanta
Braves game on, and so baseball is and I know
you obviously the Dodgers are on a M five seventy.
Baseball is one of those things where there's a rhythm

(01:02:32):
to it. You know, the game's constantly always going on.
You can get used to it. You don't have to
really check and be like, hey, are they playing the
night like the answer is pretty much every night. Uh
and uh. And that's kind of fun in the same
way wrestling is. Yeah, it's uh. I mean it's the
guys are great athletes and I don't know if they're
actually competing against each other, but they've certainly competed. You

(01:02:54):
probably would have been a good wrestler. Oh yeah, I
mean it's kind of like a dance, you know, and
and obviously a p You've got a good voice and
you're a performer, and you you could have played up
to Greek angle. Look, there's nothing like you could go
down a hole four hours. Just watching the Macho Man
and Mean Gene interviews on it's amazing, yes, and just

(01:03:16):
seeing how coked up Brandy Savage is just going crazy
on camera and it's awesome. Uh, you know, and we
put ted Dbasi on the show all the time on
our show because he's a local missionary working with homeless
and we have a problem. I didn't know. I didn't
know that. I mean, I knew that there was a
homeless problem in l A. I had no idea that

(01:03:37):
the Million Dollar Man now is in uh like works
with homeless people. Yeah, he's like a preacher. He worked
with the Dream Center, you know, in conjunction with Justin
Turner and the people there in Hollywood and God as
we need help. And but you know, so we you know,
we're not We don't act like we're above wrestling. But
I just always go back to the golden age of wrestling,

(01:03:59):
yes call it, which is Million Dollar Man, Andre the Giant, uh,
Ricky the Dragon, Steamboat. I saw your wife's T shirt,
the super Fly snook I played football with some of
his relatives, you know that kind of stuff. It's a
lot of fun. I'm not a snob about it. But
I don't know how the MSS is going to be

(01:04:20):
any cooler. And you know, no one can be cooler
than Seawn Michaels and Marty Gianetti is the Rockers, you know,
remember the Rockers accent smash from the from the Demolition Men,
remember those guys, I do, uh. And then of course
you had a heart region of doom, and then you
had the Heart Heart Foundation, whichim the Envil night Heart

(01:04:40):
and breath that hit man Heart. Yeah, kenn Raper. You
know British British Bulldogs, remember the British Bulldogs and Matilda. Yeah,
but you also gotta you gotta, you gotta respect the
mid car jobbers too, you know, like the guys who
just got pumbled on a Saturday morning. Yes, and yeah,
you know, in a single, it just gets demolished by somebody,

(01:05:04):
you know, like the Brooklyn Brawler just comes out and
kicks his nuts off. Yeah, those were the days. But
I'm glad you had a good time with the kids.
Who do the kids like? Yeah, the kids didn't actually go.
It was Laura and I I thought you were saying
kid dies and all was on that b as well.

(01:05:25):
We were, but not WrestleMania itself, not WrestleMania itself, not
this particular Yeah. Yeah, no, I was there as a
I was there in this adult My wife is in
love by the way, with Roman Reigns, so it's good
good for me. Um yeah, well, uh, you know Roman

(01:05:48):
Reins played uh football at Georgia Tech. You know, my
wife has a big crush on Kamala, the Yukonda Giant.
I just will say this, like when we when he
was when he was walking down the aisle to get in,
she was like she you know, I was like, hey,

(01:06:09):
get out of the way. I want to make sure
I get a good picture of him. So yeah, that's uh,
that's impressive. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm glad that you
you're so comfortable in your masculinity that it's no big deal. Yes,
if she wants to go over there, and and and
you know some child wrestler guys probably like twenty five
years old. I think he I think he's thirty five. Um,

(01:06:31):
but but you looked him up. Well I was curious
because I was we had him on the radio show
a couple of weeks ago, or like a couple of
I mean, it's probably been whenever the last big event.
It may have been six months ago. I don't remember exactly,
but I did research on you may before we had
him on the show. No, I I didn't know that.
She she thought he was awesome until but no, I
I looked him up because I was like, I had

(01:06:53):
heard a rumor prior to that, I mean, and I
looked it up. I mean, I just looked at his
Wikipedia page that he had played college football and so
I think it was during college football season, and I
was like, hey, you know, is a Georgia tech guy.
How much do you hate Georgia? And that got him
fired up right off the top. He's like, oh, I
I hate Georgia. You know, Um, which is you know,
as as you can well imagine if you had to

(01:07:15):
be in that spot of Georgia Tech where you're constantly
overshadowed by the Georgia Bulldogs in that in that market,
even in Atlanta, your home city, it's pretty interesting. Um yeah,
you know, uh, at least they don't have a homeless
punt returner, that's true. That is a that is a
very big positive. You want to come back and finish
off the show with us, yeah, I mean dreaming of it.

(01:07:36):
I mean, you're already up. I just wanted to say.
You know, my radio partner Matt Smith said it best.
You know, this homeless guy, it's pretty tough. He sleeps
outside of eat trash. We'll bring back Petro's Papadegas close
out the Tuesday edition of the show.

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