June 10, 2021 • 37 mins
Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn talk Islanders/Bruins national anthem, which somehow turns into a conversation about cryogenics. The fellas discuss Kareem Jackson’s comments about Deshaun Watson wanting to play in Denver. SI’s Albert Breer joins the show to give the latest on Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Fields, reacts to the Julio Jones trade, and adds some cartoon knowledge to the cryogenics topic. Plus, DeAndre Hopkins just won’t let go of the past.
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Hey, it's Jonas Knocks Brady Quinn. I'll kick the coverage
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up, we have got
two quarterbacks in the NFL and apparently they both want
to go to the same place. It's gonna cause a
lot of problems potentially. We've also got Albert Breer of
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the NFL who's very bitter about trade compensation. It is
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on Fox Sports Radio. And we will do so with
none other than Brady Quinn. Yeah, Buddy, I I gotta
tell you last night, I had one of those moments.
You know, have you had one of those moments when
you're watching a sports event and and it just it
kind of you start to tear up a little bit,
started a little bit of emotional. I don't know if
you saw the national anthem for the Islanders Bruins game,
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but something about before just watching it. You know, my
wife's obviously there. She's a former Olympian. Or actually I
think they like get upset if you ever called him
a former Olympian. They're like, what's an Olympian? Always olympian?
So whatever, that's a good point. Yeah, um, but you
know she's very patriotic, and we're watching it and the
entire arena is singing and I can't remember the young
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lady who was actually singing the national anthem, but at
one point she just put down the mic and she
just put it out there to the crowd like like
you're at a content, and everyone was singing along and
it was loud. It was awesome. I was just like,
this is what we need. We did we need more
of this kind of energy, this kind of stuff going
on this country. But either way, it was it was
a cool moment. Well, Why are those not more of
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the stories you hear about instead of some guy throwing
you know, a bag of funyans on some player walking
off the floor, right, you know it's weird. Yeah, dumping
his yogurt out on the manager, you know, across the way.
It's just like, like what are we doing here? Like
everybody wanted to make a big spectacle of you know,
the Mexico US game. It's like, oh, they were throwing
objects onto the field. Now they were throwing half empty
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beer cups that were plastic, all right, But instead we
got a great story to where you got someone singing
the national anthem anthem. People are patriotic about it. The
Islanders go on to blow out the Boston Bruins. They
continue to make a run like that. We need stories
like that. They need to be highlighted. Brady Quinn, my
in laws from Boston are probably buried some bodies last night.
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That was That was most likely what happened, given their um,
their their fandom of all Boston sports, which by the way,
they don't understand. Actually I think her parents do. I
don't think my wife does. How lucky they have been
with Boston sports. Disgusting. The Patriots, the Red Sox breaking
their curse over the past of a couple of decades,
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but their success, the Celtics, the Bruins, it's it goes
on and on, and I'm like, yeah, you guys really
can't complain about anything just because you had a down year.
That that's that's Try talking to someone who's from Cleveland. Okay, yeah,
I was, Yeah, that's very that's a good point. Now
here's here's what I would ask you when the Browns
if and when the Browns finally do want a Super Bowl,
say they go on a run. I'm going, okay, well,
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I mean that's fine. Um, and and I'll do it too.
I mean, like whatever, like you go, we go were
like Elman, Louise Off the cliff together a Brady Quinn
and myself. But the reason I asked that, are you
gonna feel a little bit of resentment if the Browns
have a have a run and start winning titles. There's
gonna be some young Browns fans that will only know success.
They're only gonna know what it was like when the
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organization was good, and they'll have no reference point to
hey man, we went through some real struggles. We were
one in thirty one. But don't worry about it. It It
wasn't Hugh Jackson's father was everybody else's. Pahn, don't worry
about it. I point the finger, never the thumb, the
Hugh Jackson motto. But you went through some real lean times,
and there's going to be Brown's fans at some point
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or another. It has to go the other way for
them at some point or another. They're never gonna know
that struggle. And I just wonder if you're gonna be
resentful to that, because I would be letting another right now.
I won't be resentful to it. I've actually, I mean
I kind of experienced it, right. I mean, when you
come from college having success, and you come in your
rookie season and we went ten and six that year,
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I'm like, all right, Like this is similar to what
I've been a customer experiencing a Notre dame. You're having success,
we're on the right track record. You really don't know
any different. And I remember being like, like, you know,
at that point, I was a backup, but being in
tight games and watch ing it and being like hopeful
and optimistic, and I'm looking around and I remember talking
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to people within the organization, Like after the game on
the sidelines, they're like, no, you don't understand. That usually
never goes our way, like that, the ball never bounces
our way. We never get the call, someone gets hurt,
something happens, like there was always this sense of that.
You could feel it in the stadium. You could sense
that the fan base was waiting for that next mistake
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to happen, like that next horrible thing that they would
go and lament about for the rest of the year,
or at least the rest of the next week, until
it happens again to talk about. And I remember going
ten and six and thinging, LP, you know, NFL, it's
not so bad. And then literally the rest of my
career I wasn't a part of a team that a
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winning record. I mean, we were eight and eight with
the Broncos one on a tiebreaker to go into the playoffs,
which is the weirdest feeling ever considering so we so
we run off the field, but then because Oakland loses
at home and then via the tie breaking strategy, we
win at five hundred and we had just lost our
last three games. They're like, no, come back out of
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the field. We won the a f C West, We're like,
this feels weird. I thought it feels like an accomplishment.
But it's hard to feel that way considering how bad
we played the last three games and the fact that
we just got beat in our own home stadium, like
to finish the year. Like, there's not a lot of
good mojo going on right now. By the way, the
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um this is how if somebody asked you ever, Okay,
So how bad were the Browns during that whatever that
time period was? So? How bad were the Browns? They
were so bad that when they did finally win a game,
bud light fridges automatically opened around the country at certain locations.
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That's how bad the Cleveland Browns were. You remember that
when the Browns finally won a game, bud light fridges
were unlocked automatically somehow through a WiFi connection and and
beers came out for free. That is how bad the
Cleveland Browns were. But things look up for the Cleveland Browns,
and it appears that there's a lot of people who
would ever have to know that struggle in that pain,
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And that's a shame that that really is a shame,
because there's nothing I like more than to see a
fan base struggle because it gives us an opportunity to
poke fun at it. Um a story about like a
guy passing out in one of those coolers, like they're
a bit concerned for his well being, but he wants
that thing opened. He enjoyed himself and then he just
passed out inside of it. Well, I mean listen, uh
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you know, I mean there's there are some people that
believe in freezing bodies. Uh. If you want to preserve life,
there's you know, there's been some stories out there. I
believe Ted Williams, the baseball player, his head was frozen
by his family. You could check that up. Go to
somewhere in Scottsdale, Arizona. Ted Williams head is frozen and
his family was fine. Which if you want to go
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down this wormhole, I am all about because here's the
process there. If you really want to go down this,
I really don't. I don't. I don't want to see
Ted Williams pine tar next to my fish sticks. All right,
I'm good. I have no interesting I have no idea
what that means. I'm just saying this. They are they're
imagining down the road, like a hundreds of years down
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the road that will probably be able to bring him
back with some sorts, you know, type of cyborg body,
but his head will still be on there. He'll solve
all his memories and all that, and so why not
why not freeze his body or his head in this
case most people was a Walt Disney. Is any cryogenically frozen?
And I don't know. The whole thing weirds me out.
It really weird. I think it's kind of fascinating because
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I like they're betting on science and technology in the
future getting to the point where like they can bring
them back. Although I do wonder if like the immediate
shock value of where all worlds at at that point
in time, like who knows if we're even on this planet?
Like that's the other thing is is there a clause
in there they've taken their their little tube with them
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to Mars, if everyone's moving the Mars or live in space.
I mean, I've got a lot of questions, Like here's
here's the part that weirds me out the most about it.
Just the thought of, um, hey can I get you anything? Uh? Yeah,
we have any more of those ice cream bars left? Yeah,
no problem that we grab you one. Damn it. And
what happened nothing, Grandpa's tray chia fell out. It's like,
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what are we doing here? Like we're freezing body parts?
Do you think anything is falling aparts frozen? Any chances?
All right, I'm not taking any chances. I'll let you
know that right now. Into this more, I think we
might need to cryogenically just in case sports talk radio
might cease to exist. You could bring it back. That's
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that's what my body type needs, more freezing temperatures. All right,
Brady quinn Jonas knocks here, Fox Sports Radio. Let's have
a discussion here if we can about somebody who I
mean like he's got once in needs? All right? This
somebody has once in needs. And according to Kareem Jackson
of the Denver Broncos. This is via the Catching Fades podcast,
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Kareem Jackson was talking about Deshaun Watson and according to Kareem,
who's a good friend of Deshaun Watson's, Deshaun Watson has
himself a preference when it comes to his next team.
Take a listen. I got a great relationship with Deshauna.
I've been talking to him the last couple of weeks. Man,
and oh, he's been telling me. He's like, look, Jack,
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just tell him like. He like, that's why I want
to be He he like, man, listen, that's why he like,
I want to be in Denver. Alright. So there it is,
Deshaun Watson wants to be a Denver Bronco. Brady Quinn.
So I mean, I guess we're all good here, see
you later, Houston. Deshaun is on his way to the
Denver Broncos. Congratulations, Denver. If only there weren't this gigantic
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hurdle of two alright, separate massage therapist who have filed lawsuits,
civil lawsuits. For the most part, I believe there is
one criminal suit. I'm not sure where we're at on
that one, um, but there have been twenty plus civil
lawsuits filed UH claiming misconduct, UM, sexual allegations and an orientation,
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so that might be standing in their way. And and
this is how this is gonna work for any team
that looks to trade for de Shaun Watson. And yes, trade,
I don't believe the Houston Texans are going to release him,
even though they would have cause and they would be
able to, you know, get out from underneath the contract
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because of his conduct off the field, you know, under
the player conduct policy, when you have an issue like this,
it voids your guarantees. So I'm sure if they wanted
to move on, cut them, you know, Cup eight and
go their separate ways, they could, But I think they
want to see how this whole thing plays out first.
But let's just say, for example, they do want to
trade them, They're done with them. He's done with them, Okay.
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If Denver's that team ownership has to come into play,
and that's where things get a little bit complicated. Pat
Bowling rest in peace. He's he's moved on. A tremendous owner.
I was there in Denver for a couple of years,
uh and and it was it was an unbelievable organization.
It was a little um uh, it was. It was
a little difficult at that point. I think they're going
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through a transition. Josh got fired, John Fox came in,
but they started to kind of, you know, to you know,
get back up on the upswing. But the reality is
now it's been passed down I believe to Brittany Boling,
his daughter, but it's been a little bit of of
a messy ordeal and she's obviously new to this. So
it's also gonna take you know, her perspective, her thoughts
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and checking off on all this as to whether or
not they want to bring in a guy like this,
which even if even if he settles, you know, it's
settling these lawsuits doesn't necessarily mean that he's not potentially
guilty of all this. It just means that that's how
the victims or alleged victims in this case, that's how
that they would want to uh, you know, appease whatever
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it took place or make them happy with this entire process.
So they would have to be able to take that
on and trade for him or sign him knowing that
there's the potential that there was still some wrongdoing. There's
still the potential the NFL could do something. So as
much he wants to go to Denver, which, by the way,
where else is he going to go? I'm not sure
there's still quarterback situation where teams are welcome him with
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open arms. As much as he wants to go there,
there's got to be more of a desire and want
from Denver at this point, and there's still some things
that need to be sorted out before it even happen,
and why why the hell would the Houston Texans cooperate
with him at this point? Like, why would they? Why
would the Houston Texans say, you know what, we hear you,
Let's go ahead and let's get you to wherever you
want to be. Let's go. Man. If I'm the Houston Texans,
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I I am no longer worried about my relationship and
where it's at with Deshaun Watson. If I'm moving on
from him, my whole goal is We're going to get
the most we possibly can and what's best for our organization.
If that means we trade him to Thailand, if that
means we trade him to the CFL, like, whatever the
case may be, We're gonna get what's best for us.
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All he's done is throw the organization under the bus
for months and months and months and then put them
in an awful spot because of conduct off the field.
So why the hell if I'm in the Houston Texans,
what I even acquiesced anything to Deshaun Watson, Like, I
don't want to hear anything about what your demands are
and where you want to go and where you want
to end up. This is about our organization trying to
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move forward. If you don't want to be a part
of it, and if you still don't want to be
a part of it, tough, You're you're going where we
send you, because we're going where we're gonna get the
most in return. Yeah, I think the heart that is again,
who's gonna trade for him? I think Miami is moving
on this year with toa. I think the Patriots are
past any sort of uh maybe, and maybe I'm wrong
with that, right with Cam Newton being heard, I'm not
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sure that that would be the best place for him,
with you know, the Bob Craft all the other right, right, Well,
I'm I'm not good at that, right, I don't want
to either. But yeah, let's just say they're probably out
on on Deshaun Watson at least at this point. Um.
And so that least, like the Washington football team, given
the dynamics around that organization, some of the things they
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were battling in that regard, and that ain't happening. And
so you've got Denver and you've got Las Vegas who
reportedly had interest. I mean I don't. I don't by
the way, Derek Carr, who I think it's one of
only like three quarterbacks in the past is a two
or three seasons who's had like a seven percent of
which percentage over four thousand yards and like ten or
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less interceptions. I mean, he's played it's him. It's him,
Mahomes and Rogers, He's played so much better than people
want to give him credit. So I'm not even so
sure that they would be sold in on that idea. Yeah,
I just I think that there's so much that's going
to have to happen for this to even be a
real discussion. Um, but we do have somebody who can
speak on the topic who will be joining us next here.
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He's Brady Quinn, I'm Joe and his knocks is is.
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can hang out with us as always on the I
Heart Radio app. So, as we said, we're going to
have our NFL insider join you next with the latest
on this Deshaun Watson discussion, and also is the momentum
starting to go in the way of Aaron Rodgers leaving
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the Green Bay Packers. Will have the latest on that
for you next here Brady Quinn Jonas knocks. I'll kick
the coverage here Fox Sports Radio. This this is I'll
kick the coverage coming up later on this hour here
on fs ARE. We've got some comments from somebody in
the NFL that I think Brady would like to dive
into a little bit. There's a well, you know, there
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there is a wide receiver who just can't seem to
let it go, just can't seem to let it go.
Look all for motivation. It's just then it gets to
a point where you say things. You go, well, that
was dumb. I mean, there's there's a there's a there's
an example to actually what you said. Oh man, But
we will get to that later on. Right now, we
must get to the man of the hour. He is
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Albert Breer of the mm QB dot com. He writes
for s I always does a great job. Always kind
enough to join us here on Fox Sports Radio, Albert
Jonas and Brady Quinn. How are you. I'm good. How
are you guys doing good? Yeah, we were just discussing, well,
I don't even want to tell you what Brady brought
us into to start the show. Like we're talking about,
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like you know, freezing human beings and all this stuff.
I was talking about the national anthem last night before
the Bruins and Islanders game, which was awesome. So that
was what I brought up. But yeah, I mean, I
would just like to point this out that, Um, we
also talked about the Deshaun Watson situation. Kareem Jackson came
out and said, I've talked to Deshaun. He wants to
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be a member of the Denver Broncos. He's really interested.
And so we were just sort of throwing around, like
like what options does he really have, Like what teams
are out there that would be willing to take a
swing on a Deshaun Watson at this point based on
his situation? Or have you heard that there are still
ongoing discussions or where do we stand on the Deshaun
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Watson Sweeve steaks. Yeah, I mean, I think we need
some level of clarity, um illegally with from the league
before this moves forward. And you know, one of the
reasons why is because it doesn't make sense to the
Texans right now to move them. Um. And the reason
why that doesn't make sense for the Texas to move
them is because they're they be very much telling low
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right now. UM. I do think that you know, eventually,
it's gonna come to time when they do trade him. Um,
and you know, I think it's probably gonna come before
he plays in another NFL game. So um, and I
think that you know, there are certainly teams out there
that are monitoring this situation. The thing is, guys, like,
if you're the Texans right now and you try to
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put them out of the market, there's gonna be a
lot of teams where it's just gonna be a nonstartered,
like their owners aren't going to let them make a
move for a player that's facing the sort of things
legally that Deshaun Watson's facing now. Once we get some
clarity from the legal system, um, you know, whether he
settles the cases or not. Once the league ways in
on this and we figure out how the league's going
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to handle it, um, you know, going into one season,
if we get legal clarity before then, then you think
the floodgates would open and there'll be more teams that
be interested more you know, gms and coaches would be
able to get their owners to sign off on it.
You know. But as it stands right now, you know,
the Texans are sitting on a twenty five year old
franchise quarterback who has been severely devalued by what's going
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on in his life, and so, you know, for the Texans,
you know, like, while I do think that they've moved
a little bit on that and are you know, way
more amenable to the idea of moving him than they were,
you know, five six months ago. Um, I just don't
think it makes sense for them to go through with
the trade until they can get a real ret earned
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for him. And I'm not sure that they can get
the sort of return for him they'd want, um, giving
everything that's going on. Yeah, I'm not sure they ever
will be able to at this point. But let me
ask you this, why is the NFL dragging their feet
and making a decision to at least put them on
the exemp list, Because if this was five, six, seven
years ago, I feel like he already would have been
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on the list at this point, you already would to
be on the example list, and they would have been
moving forward with the investigation. Why are they dragging their feet? Well,
they are investigating it, Brady. I I think that the
simple answer to your question is the NFL really doesn't
do anything until they have to, and there hasn't been
anything mandatory. All this stuff so far has been voluntary.
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The text, that's not hold on, Albert, Albert, hold On,
that's not true. The NFL would see a video or
something would have become public and then they would throw
the guy in the exemple list and then started investing. Yeah,
I agree with you on that. Like you know, so
like say there's something that creates a pr crisis for
the league, I'm with you, Like the league felt like
there's something out there that's making us look that we
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have to do something, we have to act and yet
at this point, and I think that the situation is
sort of in status quo for a while, and that's
why I just don't think the league is going to
move on and until they have to. And the Texans
haven't had anything this mandatory at this point. Everything has
been voluntary. The Texans canceled their mandatory mini camp, so
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that means we're not getting anything that's gonna be mandatory
until it started training camp. At that point, I think
the NFL has to make a decision because you know,
then then then you've got a team in the Texas
in a position where if DeShawn doesn't show up, and
I wouldn't expect them to show up. They gotta start
finding him, and I don't think the NFL wants the
surface of Deshaun Watson showing up, you know, while all
of this is still going on legally. So that's when
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I think they have to make a decision and they
have to do something, and maybe that's when they put
them on the Commissioner's exemplest um. But I I, you know,
I I feel like I can't. I'm racking my brain now.
But there was a situation similar to this a year
or two ago where the same question came up, and
I can remember going to the league office and asking
them about this, and the answer I got back was, well,
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we don't make those sorts of moves in the offseason.
And I asked why, and they said, well, because we
really don't have to. And so, you know, I think
that that's that's basically a short answer to the question,
is that they're not moving right now because they don't
have to. He's Albert Brier, the MMQB dot Com NFL insider,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knocks Brady
com with you here on I'll kick the coverage. Um, So,
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I mean the question you're going to continue to asked about.
And look, Julio Jones is gone, so now there's one
man remaining in the royal rumble of will they get
traded this offseason? And it's Aaron Rodgers. So I'm sure
you're bucket up ready to answer to ask this question
every single day you do an interview here on radio.
But the Aaron Rodgers situation, do we have any sort
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of clarity? Do we know when he's going to be
returning to camp? Do you get the sense that maybe
Matt Lafleur knows when he'll when he'll show up? Like
where do we stand on the Rogers front? Yeah, I
don't think anybody knows, And and really guess because this
is all like kind of tied to the whims of
one guy, you know, And and I think you know,
the way Aaron's going to handle this over the next
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two or three months wildly unpredictable. So, um, you know,
it's it's a different situation in this way. And um,
the best example I can give anybody right now is
is comparing this to the Julio situation. And that the
Julio situation, you know, for as up and down and
you know, as many different twists and turns as there
were over the last you know, three or four months
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in the Julio situation, it was still pretty standard in
that UM teams that were looking into it. Um, even
the ones that have very mild interest in Julio, Like
if you talk to them, they had an idea of
what was going on right like so, And that's the
way it works in the NFL. Is like one of
the guys in the trade block teams that are interested,
you know it, it behooves them to figure out, like
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what the landscape is over I wanted to ask you this, um,
you are you see being in Ohio State, Alum, you're
very familiar with Justin Fields time in Columbus and just
his performance there as a Buckeye. And now we're seeing
all these videos come out of training camp and it's
him against Andy Dalton and people are raving about how
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they look in comparison to each other and how good
Justin Fields looks. How surprised were you during the draft
process to see so many people I don't know if
out is the right word, but down on Justin Fields
based on his time at Ohio State. Yeah, I mean
I was pretty surprised to be honest with you just
because you know, I ah, he was on so many
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big stages um. And Brady can attest to this because
he was in a stadium, you know, on some of
those occasions. But I mean in the two season you
saw him and so many high leverage situations. Um. You know,
you saw toughness, you saw competitiveness, you saw physical ability. Um.
You know. And then I think one thing that really
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is sort of you know luck you out to me
was what the people in the Ohio State program would
say about him. Um, And like how and I'll give
you guys this, Like I I can remember when some
of the criticisms started to mount, you know in March
and April, the calls I was getting um from people
in Columbus, uh, you know, in that program, and how
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defensive they were about it. And it's interesting because you
know when Dwayne Haskins, when Dwayne Haskins was in the
draft of nineteen and he was criticized, you didn't hear
the same level of defensiveness. You didn't hear like people
just kind of rushing to to to get his back
the same way. Um. It's you know, I know, how well,
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how well thought of he was you know, in that program.
And um, so it was surprising to me to hear
the level of criticism you know, he took and that
you kind of kept carrying this narrative that a lot
of people in that program were very, very very aggressive
and fighting. So, uh, is he perfect? No? Um, And
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Brady's probably more qualified to go through like the stuff
about the football stuff than I am. But um, you know,
he doesn't need to play more, and I think Ryan
Day would say that, you know, like that he just
needs to he needs more snaps, and um, you know
that's normal for a quarterback his age, but the potential
is off the charts and just you know, from a
football character standpoint. And I don't think you need to
(26:25):
be a scout or a coach or a former quarterback
to see the toughness and competitiveness that he displayed the
last two years. So I was surprised that he slipped
the eleventh pick. And um, you know, I think he's
got a good shot to be a really good player,
you know, with the Bears, provided they create the right
environment for him there, which is always a big question
for any quarterback. No, well said, I think perseverance too, right,
(26:47):
like some of those games where he struggled, people tend
to forget they still won, like they're act like their
season just went to the wayside because he played bad,
like they still won the game. He still figured it
out at the end. I want to transition to talking about, um,
just the Julio Jones trade. Were you surprised in the end,
Albert by the compensation that ended up being because it
(27:08):
seems like DeAndre Hopkins has given that he was also
traded for a second round pick. Why is it hard
for these guys to wrap their head around where they're
at at their age, even as good as they have
been of the past decade. Well, I think he hit
the right word there, Brady of age. Um, you know,
and I went and looked at this actually, and you know,
there's been a little bit of a boom and blockbuster
(27:29):
trades the last few years, and so you know, I
went back over the last four years, they're been eleven
players who were traded for a first round pick. Eleven
non quarterbacks traded for a first round pick. H The
oldest one was twenty seven years old. So every single
one of them all eleven or twenty seven or younger.
Julio is thirty two. So I went back a five,
(27:49):
I went back five years before that, and the oldest
player I could find, you know, in that period that
was a non quarterback traded for a first round pick
was twenty eight years old. That was Jimmy Graham. So
I kind of kept looking back and looking back, and
I I can't find a non quarterback who was over
thirty years old and traded for a first round pick
in NFL history. It just doesn't happen. Now, I'm not
(28:10):
saying that's right or wrong. It's just the way the
NFL has always operated. And you know, I think even
you know, in the last you know, eleven years since
the two thou eleven cb A changed the way rookies
are paid. Um, that shifted the dynamic too, and that
you know, you have, you know, five years of cost
control on a core player with the first round pick
guy you expect to be a core player, um, you know.
(28:33):
And so teams are weighing that versus what do you
get with Julio Jones. Well maybe maybe two years, and
it's more expensive than a first round pick would be. So,
you know, I think that that's sort of the piece
of it that everybody misses. It's and I hate going
through this because it sounds like I'm bashing a guy
who's clearly a Hall of Famer and and and one
(28:54):
of the greatest receivers of his era. But I mean,
you add the age to the injury history. He's managed
the foot over the course of his career. Um, he's
got knee issues, that hamstring took him out for half
of the year last year. He can't practice every day,
which is an issue for some coaches. I mean, I
think he added all up and you can see why
a lot of teams had kind of one toe but
(29:15):
not you know, both feet in the pool. When it
came to Julio Jones, like they were interested in it,
but they were only interested in it to a point
because you know, they felt like there's probably a year
or two left at the level that he's at, and
then after that, you know, you're looking at at a
different sort of player, and you know, even if it
stands right now, he has to be managed a certain way.
(29:36):
So I like it for the Titans because of where
they're at, and they've got so many guys that are
right there smacking the prime of their careers. Guys like
you know Taylor, the one coming off the injury, Ryan Tannehill,
Derrick Henry, Kevin Buyer, Um, guys that don't maybe the
guys that are like, you know, maybe the guys have
two or three years lest that core group with Tennessee.
(29:56):
But I can also see why, you know, trading for
Julio Jones didn't make sense for everybody, great as he's
been as a player. Yeah, Albert, can I ask you
one more real quick? I mean we were trying to
settle up eight earlier in the show, Jonas kind of
teased it cryogenically freezing people. Would you be someone who
would opt for that? Jesus man, listen, I'm trying to
(30:17):
be a potestional podcast. When when when you guys brought
that up, I actually thought like that was a big
controversy with Ted Williams. Yes, thank you, thank you? Yes.
Is it controversial or is it more of like maybe
it's brilliant, Maybe he's gonna be around, you know, two
thousand years from now. Yeah, it did happen to the Simpsons.
Am I wrong about this, diden or something? I think
(30:45):
I think I think there was an episode. I say
this stuff, but I think there was an episode when
Mr Burns wanted to be prosen, So you come back
and be everybody's boss, like twenty years later something. Look
that up. I think I had that right answer the question,
are you out of jet Rosen? I don't need to
be and I don't want to be anybody's guinea big
(31:05):
Now we have something to talk about, but I don't
want to be anybody's guinea pig. Well, listen, I think
we need an update to Albert Brier's Twitter bio. A
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the mm QB
dot com, also um expert on cartoon show, cryogenics, or
whatever they call it when it comes to freeze and
(31:26):
human beings. Albert Brier, Albert, we appreciate it. Thanks so
much as always, man, I have a great rest of
the day in a great weekend. Thanks all right, Thanks,
I appreciate it. That's awesome. Get him on Twitter again
at Albert Brier. Always good stuff there here on Fox
Sports Radio. I mean, you know, we didn't get neither
one of us on that interview. What's that a great question?
I never said great question. We got to do a
(31:47):
better job. I was just thinking about that. We're not
so just for people, so people know we're not used
to having guests, because we do. We do Sunday nights,
and nobody wants to come on with us. Uh and
you just heard technically not true. Okay. We have no
problem throwing out the phone line and playing games with
(32:08):
our drunk guests. It's just people who are like in
the media realm, that professional, they don't want to come out. No,
it's not even now, it's just not not even having Yeah,
of course, I mean, but but anybody drinking at this
time of day, I want no part of I don't
want to lose my job because some guy has got
a brown bag of steel reserve and something from a
(32:29):
breakfast drive through menu, and and he's a cruising around town.
Not interested, not interested? All right, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks
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there's somebody in the NFL who had by far and
(33:32):
away the best offseason of anybody. I mean, and it
could just continues to get better. Now I'm letting people
know ahead of time Brady Quinn is going to try
and steer that conversation, uh and make it centered around
my in laws. Uh. And and and I will not
I will not have that. I will not I will
not disparage this quarterback. Uh. What is what is going on?
(33:53):
First off? Just letting you know, why why are you
teasing something that we talked about before the show. Oh
that was such a my new detail. But you think
it's gonna become the entire segment because it's a better tease.
I mean, this is not it's not about movie drove
by and Jonas knocks as the driver. Now, listen, it's
(34:14):
not about whether the movie is good. It's about whether
or not the previews are good enough to get a
bunch of people at the theaters like falls. I mean,
that's that's the way this thing goes. It's like the
card in the fight, right, Like Mayweather has done this,
many of the promoters have done this. As long as
the card looks good, people are gonna pay them buy it,
and they make the you know, the Weigans look like
(34:34):
it's tough, and they're gonna get in a fight like
they're gonna you know, of course I get that, but
that is not the my new detail. I thought you'd
be pointing out about the Well, we'll save it for
the top of the next hour, all right. I'm all
about motivation, Like if somebody says something, or somebody tells
you you're not gonna make it, you're not gonna do anything.
When I'm all about motivation. But at a certain point,
(34:58):
if you've already made it, don't you have to kind
of move on and say, man, I don't want to
talk about this anymore. DeAndre Hopkins just can't seem to
move on, like he he can't seem and you you
mentioned this before you got into freezing uh corpses with
Albert Brier a few minutes ago on Fox Sports Radio.
Check out the podcast if you want to hear that
Dynamite interview. Technically, that's it accurate that usually people are
(35:21):
actually being frozen before they're dead, so it's not a corpse.
It's a living body that's like a controlled death to
then freeze again. You gotta look this stuff up. It's
pretty fascinating, all right again and in our four sounds
like a plan. We will get into that when we
when we break down that that Son's Denver Nuggets series
as well too. Uh Now the so DeAndre hopkins um
(35:43):
is talking about, you know, I want to see a
first round pick who could do what Julio Jones and
myself do because he's upset that he was traded for
a second round pick. Like, who cares? Man, What does
it matter what you got traded for? Are you not
happy in Arizona? Did you not get a new contract
when you got there? Why is this even still the
(36:03):
topic of conversation, Like at some point you gotta move on.
I have no idea, I mean, And the weird thing
was is that this time it obviously wasn't even about him,
It was about Julio Jones. And as Albert Breer just discussed,
we haven't seen a wide receiver or any other position
outside of a quarterback thirty plus be traded for a
(36:24):
first round pick. So clearly there's a formula that teams
are looking at front office executives are looking at when
trying to trade for players at those positions. And I
think in both cases of the players, you know they
you know, there's there's business impacts too, as far as
the contract and what that was gonna mean with him
going to Arizona. But the thing that upsets because I
(36:44):
want to see a first round pick. Okay, I'll give
you an example. The first round pick DeAndre Justin Jefferson
just did it last year. In fact, he did what
you did, but a little bit better because he didn't
even start all sixteen games, played in all sixteen, didn't
start two of those, had more receiving yards and more
touchdowns than last year. So there there's an example of
a first round pick who literally did what you did
(37:05):
last year. Now, if you're talking about his entire career,
I think we can go through some first round picks
and find guys who are able to do that. But
the reality is, I mean a A J. Green who
has had a solid career now in Arizona. With him,
you know, he's been able to put the other numbers
like that throughout the course of his career. Other first
round picks will be able to. But that's that's like
the weird thing is you make a comment like that
(37:25):
and then immediately you're going, yeah, justin Jefferson, he just
did it this past season. There's an example also, who's
he upset with the team that traded him for not
getting a first round pick or the team that acquired
him who gave up lesson as a better roster because
they didn't give up a first round pick. Exactly. It
just doesn't make any sense. You know what else doesn't
make sense this show so far, we got two hours left.
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none other than Brady Quinn. Yeah, Buddy, I I gotta
tell you last night, I had one of those moments.
You know, have you had one of those moments when
you're watching a sports event and and it just it
kind of you start to tear up a little bit,
started a little bit of emotional. I don't know if
you saw the national anthem for the Islanders Bruins game,
(01:30):
but something about before just watching it. You know, my
wife's obviously there. She's a former Olympian. Or actually I
think they like get upset if you ever called him
a former Olympian. They're like, what's an Olympian? Always olympian?
So whatever, that's a good point. Yeah, um, but you
know she's very patriotic, and we're watching it and the
entire arena is singing and I can't remember the young
(01:51):
lady who was actually singing the national anthem, but at
one point she just put down the mic and she
just put it out there to the crowd like like
you're at a content, and everyone was singing along and
it was loud. It was awesome. I was just like,
this is what we need. We did we need more
of this kind of energy, this kind of stuff going
on this country. But either way, it was it was
a cool moment. Well, Why are those not more of
(02:13):
the stories you hear about instead of some guy throwing
you know, a bag of funyans on some player walking
off the floor, right, you know it's weird. Yeah, dumping
his yogurt out on the manager, you know, across the way.
It's just like, like what are we doing here? Like
everybody wanted to make a big spectacle of you know,
the Mexico US game. It's like, oh, they were throwing
objects onto the field. Now they were throwing half empty
(02:35):
beer cups that were plastic, all right, But instead we
got a great story to where you got someone singing
the national anthem anthem. People are patriotic about it. The
Islanders go on to blow out the Boston Bruins. They
continue to make a run like that. We need stories
like that. They need to be highlighted. Brady Quinn, my
in laws from Boston are probably buried some bodies last night.
(02:56):
That was That was most likely what happened, given their um,
their their fandom of all Boston sports, which by the way,
they don't understand. Actually I think her parents do. I
don't think my wife does. How lucky they have been
with Boston sports. Disgusting. The Patriots, the Red Sox breaking
their curse over the past of a couple of decades,
(03:17):
but their success, the Celtics, the Bruins, it's it goes
on and on, and I'm like, yeah, you guys really
can't complain about anything just because you had a down year.
That that's that's Try talking to someone who's from Cleveland. Okay, yeah,
I was, Yeah, that's very that's a good point. Now
here's here's what I would ask you when the Browns
if and when the Browns finally do want a Super Bowl,
say they go on a run. I'm going, okay, well,
(03:39):
I mean that's fine. Um, and and I'll do it too.
I mean, like whatever, like you go, we go were
like Elman, Louise Off the cliff together a Brady Quinn
and myself. But the reason I asked that, are you
gonna feel a little bit of resentment if the Browns
have a have a run and start winning titles. There's
gonna be some young Browns fans that will only know success.
They're only gonna know what it was like when the
(04:00):
organization was good, and they'll have no reference point to
hey man, we went through some real struggles. We were
one in thirty one. But don't worry about it. It It
wasn't Hugh Jackson's father was everybody else's. Pahn, don't worry
about it. I point the finger, never the thumb, the
Hugh Jackson motto. But you went through some real lean times,
and there's going to be Brown's fans at some point
(04:23):
or another. It has to go the other way for
them at some point or another. They're never gonna know
that struggle. And I just wonder if you're gonna be
resentful to that, because I would be letting another right now.
I won't be resentful to it. I've actually, I mean
I kind of experienced it, right. I mean, when you
come from college having success, and you come in your
rookie season and we went ten and six that year,
(04:44):
I'm like, all right, Like this is similar to what
I've been a customer experiencing a Notre dame. You're having success,
we're on the right track record. You really don't know
any different. And I remember being like, like, you know,
at that point, I was a backup, but being in
tight games and watch ing it and being like hopeful
and optimistic, and I'm looking around and I remember talking
(05:04):
to people within the organization, Like after the game on
the sidelines, they're like, no, you don't understand. That usually
never goes our way, like that, the ball never bounces
our way. We never get the call, someone gets hurt,
something happens, like there was always this sense of that.
You could feel it in the stadium. You could sense
that the fan base was waiting for that next mistake
(05:27):
to happen, like that next horrible thing that they would
go and lament about for the rest of the year,
or at least the rest of the next week, until
it happens again to talk about. And I remember going
ten and six and thinging, LP, you know, NFL, it's
not so bad. And then literally the rest of my
career I wasn't a part of a team that a
(05:47):
winning record. I mean, we were eight and eight with
the Broncos one on a tiebreaker to go into the playoffs,
which is the weirdest feeling ever considering so we so
we run off the field, but then because Oakland loses
at home and then via the tie breaking strategy, we
win at five hundred and we had just lost our
last three games. They're like, no, come back out of
(06:09):
the field. We won the a f C West, We're like,
this feels weird. I thought it feels like an accomplishment.
But it's hard to feel that way considering how bad
we played the last three games and the fact that
we just got beat in our own home stadium, like
to finish the year. Like, there's not a lot of
good mojo going on right now. By the way, the
(06:29):
um this is how if somebody asked you ever, Okay,
So how bad were the Browns during that whatever that
time period was? So? How bad were the Browns? They
were so bad that when they did finally win a game,
bud light fridges automatically opened around the country at certain locations.
(06:53):
That's how bad the Cleveland Browns were. You remember that
when the Browns finally won a game, bud light fridges
were unlocked automatically somehow through a WiFi connection and and
beers came out for free. That is how bad the
Cleveland Browns were. But things look up for the Cleveland Browns,
and it appears that there's a lot of people who
would ever have to know that struggle in that pain,
(07:13):
And that's a shame that that really is a shame,
because there's nothing I like more than to see a
fan base struggle because it gives us an opportunity to
poke fun at it. Um a story about like a
guy passing out in one of those coolers, like they're
a bit concerned for his well being, but he wants
that thing opened. He enjoyed himself and then he just
passed out inside of it. Well, I mean listen, uh
(07:35):
you know, I mean there's there are some people that
believe in freezing bodies. Uh. If you want to preserve life,
there's you know, there's been some stories out there. I
believe Ted Williams, the baseball player, his head was frozen
by his family. You could check that up. Go to
somewhere in Scottsdale, Arizona. Ted Williams head is frozen and
his family was fine. Which if you want to go
(07:56):
down this wormhole, I am all about because here's the
process there. If you really want to go down this,
I really don't. I don't. I don't want to see
Ted Williams pine tar next to my fish sticks. All right,
I'm good. I have no interesting I have no idea
what that means. I'm just saying this. They are they're
imagining down the road, like a hundreds of years down
(08:17):
the road that will probably be able to bring him
back with some sorts, you know, type of cyborg body,
but his head will still be on there. He'll solve
all his memories and all that, and so why not
why not freeze his body or his head in this
case most people was a Walt Disney. Is any cryogenically frozen?
And I don't know. The whole thing weirds me out.
It really weird. I think it's kind of fascinating because
(08:37):
I like they're betting on science and technology in the
future getting to the point where like they can bring
them back. Although I do wonder if like the immediate
shock value of where all worlds at at that point
in time, like who knows if we're even on this planet?
Like that's the other thing is is there a clause
in there they've taken their their little tube with them
(08:58):
to Mars, if everyone's moving the Mars or live in space.
I mean, I've got a lot of questions, Like here's
here's the part that weirds me out the most about it.
Just the thought of, um, hey can I get you anything? Uh? Yeah,
we have any more of those ice cream bars left? Yeah,
no problem that we grab you one. Damn it. And
what happened nothing, Grandpa's tray chia fell out. It's like,
(09:20):
what are we doing here? Like we're freezing body parts?
Do you think anything is falling aparts frozen? Any chances?
All right, I'm not taking any chances. I'll let you
know that right now. Into this more, I think we
might need to cryogenically just in case sports talk radio
might cease to exist. You could bring it back. That's
(09:44):
that's what my body type needs, more freezing temperatures. All right,
Brady quinn Jonas knocks here, Fox Sports Radio. Let's have
a discussion here if we can about somebody who I
mean like he's got once in needs? All right? This
somebody has once in needs. And according to Kareem Jackson
of the Denver Broncos. This is via the Catching Fades podcast,
(10:08):
Kareem Jackson was talking about Deshaun Watson and according to Kareem,
who's a good friend of Deshaun Watson's, Deshaun Watson has
himself a preference when it comes to his next team.
Take a listen. I got a great relationship with Deshauna.
I've been talking to him the last couple of weeks. Man,
and oh, he's been telling me. He's like, look, Jack,
(10:28):
just tell him like. He like, that's why I want
to be He he like, man, listen, that's why he like,
I want to be in Denver. Alright. So there it is,
Deshaun Watson wants to be a Denver Bronco. Brady Quinn.
So I mean, I guess we're all good here, see
you later, Houston. Deshaun is on his way to the
Denver Broncos. Congratulations, Denver. If only there weren't this gigantic
(10:50):
hurdle of two alright, separate massage therapist who have filed lawsuits,
civil lawsuits. For the most part, I believe there is
one criminal suit. I'm not sure where we're at on
that one, um, but there have been twenty plus civil
lawsuits filed UH claiming misconduct, UM, sexual allegations and an orientation,
(11:14):
so that might be standing in their way. And and
this is how this is gonna work for any team
that looks to trade for de Shaun Watson. And yes, trade,
I don't believe the Houston Texans are going to release him,
even though they would have cause and they would be
able to, you know, get out from underneath the contract
(11:36):
because of his conduct off the field, you know, under
the player conduct policy, when you have an issue like this,
it voids your guarantees. So I'm sure if they wanted
to move on, cut them, you know, Cup eight and
go their separate ways, they could, But I think they
want to see how this whole thing plays out first.
But let's just say, for example, they do want to
trade them, They're done with them. He's done with them, Okay.
(11:58):
If Denver's that team ownership has to come into play,
and that's where things get a little bit complicated. Pat
Bowling rest in peace. He's he's moved on. A tremendous owner.
I was there in Denver for a couple of years,
uh and and it was it was an unbelievable organization.
It was a little um uh, it was. It was
a little difficult at that point. I think they're going
(12:19):
through a transition. Josh got fired, John Fox came in,
but they started to kind of, you know, to you know,
get back up on the upswing. But the reality is
now it's been passed down I believe to Brittany Boling,
his daughter, but it's been a little bit of of
a messy ordeal and she's obviously new to this. So
it's also gonna take you know, her perspective, her thoughts
(12:40):
and checking off on all this as to whether or
not they want to bring in a guy like this,
which even if even if he settles, you know, it's
settling these lawsuits doesn't necessarily mean that he's not potentially
guilty of all this. It just means that that's how
the victims or alleged victims in this case, that's how
that they would want to uh, you know, appease whatever
(13:03):
it took place or make them happy with this entire process.
So they would have to be able to take that
on and trade for him or sign him knowing that
there's the potential that there was still some wrongdoing. There's
still the potential the NFL could do something. So as
much he wants to go to Denver, which, by the way,
where else is he going to go? I'm not sure
there's still quarterback situation where teams are welcome him with
(13:26):
open arms. As much as he wants to go there,
there's got to be more of a desire and want
from Denver at this point, and there's still some things
that need to be sorted out before it even happen,
and why why the hell would the Houston Texans cooperate
with him at this point? Like, why would they? Why
would the Houston Texans say, you know what, we hear you,
Let's go ahead and let's get you to wherever you
want to be. Let's go. Man. If I'm the Houston Texans,
(13:49):
I I am no longer worried about my relationship and
where it's at with Deshaun Watson. If I'm moving on
from him, my whole goal is We're going to get
the most we possibly can and what's best for our organization.
If that means we trade him to Thailand, if that
means we trade him to the CFL, like, whatever the
case may be, We're gonna get what's best for us.
(14:10):
All he's done is throw the organization under the bus
for months and months and months and then put them
in an awful spot because of conduct off the field.
So why the hell if I'm in the Houston Texans,
what I even acquiesced anything to Deshaun Watson, Like, I
don't want to hear anything about what your demands are
and where you want to go and where you want
to end up. This is about our organization trying to
(14:32):
move forward. If you don't want to be a part
of it, and if you still don't want to be
a part of it, tough, You're you're going where we
send you, because we're going where we're gonna get the
most in return. Yeah, I think the heart that is again,
who's gonna trade for him? I think Miami is moving
on this year with toa. I think the Patriots are
past any sort of uh maybe, and maybe I'm wrong
with that, right with Cam Newton being heard, I'm not
(14:55):
sure that that would be the best place for him,
with you know, the Bob Craft all the other right, right, Well,
I'm I'm not good at that, right, I don't want
to either. But yeah, let's just say they're probably out
on on Deshaun Watson at least at this point. Um.
And so that least, like the Washington football team, given
the dynamics around that organization, some of the things they
(15:15):
were battling in that regard, and that ain't happening. And
so you've got Denver and you've got Las Vegas who
reportedly had interest. I mean I don't. I don't by
the way, Derek Carr, who I think it's one of
only like three quarterbacks in the past is a two
or three seasons who's had like a seven percent of
which percentage over four thousand yards and like ten or
(15:36):
less interceptions. I mean, he's played it's him. It's him,
Mahomes and Rogers, He's played so much better than people
want to give him credit. So I'm not even so
sure that they would be sold in on that idea. Yeah,
I just I think that there's so much that's going
to have to happen for this to even be a
real discussion. Um, but we do have somebody who can
speak on the topic who will be joining us next here.
(15:58):
He's Brady Quinn, I'm Joe and his knocks is is.
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can hang out with us as always on the I
Heart Radio app. So, as we said, we're going to
have our NFL insider join you next with the latest
on this Deshaun Watson discussion, and also is the momentum
starting to go in the way of Aaron Rodgers leaving
(16:18):
the Green Bay Packers. Will have the latest on that
for you next here Brady Quinn Jonas knocks. I'll kick
the coverage here Fox Sports Radio. This this is I'll
kick the coverage coming up later on this hour here
on fs ARE. We've got some comments from somebody in
the NFL that I think Brady would like to dive
into a little bit. There's a well, you know, there
(16:41):
there is a wide receiver who just can't seem to
let it go, just can't seem to let it go.
Look all for motivation. It's just then it gets to
a point where you say things. You go, well, that
was dumb. I mean, there's there's a there's a there's
an example to actually what you said. Oh man, But
we will get to that later on. Right now, we
must get to the man of the hour. He is
(17:03):
Albert Breer of the mm QB dot com. He writes
for s I always does a great job. Always kind
enough to join us here on Fox Sports Radio, Albert
Jonas and Brady Quinn. How are you. I'm good. How
are you guys doing good? Yeah, we were just discussing, well,
I don't even want to tell you what Brady brought
us into to start the show. Like we're talking about,
(17:25):
like you know, freezing human beings and all this stuff.
I was talking about the national anthem last night before
the Bruins and Islanders game, which was awesome. So that
was what I brought up. But yeah, I mean, I
would just like to point this out that, Um, we
also talked about the Deshaun Watson situation. Kareem Jackson came
out and said, I've talked to Deshaun. He wants to
(17:47):
be a member of the Denver Broncos. He's really interested.
And so we were just sort of throwing around, like
like what options does he really have, Like what teams
are out there that would be willing to take a
swing on a Deshaun Watson at this point based on
his situation? Or have you heard that there are still
ongoing discussions or where do we stand on the Deshaun
(18:08):
Watson Sweeve steaks. Yeah, I mean, I think we need
some level of clarity, um illegally with from the league
before this moves forward. And you know, one of the
reasons why is because it doesn't make sense to the
Texans right now to move them. Um. And the reason
why that doesn't make sense for the Texas to move
them is because they're they be very much telling low
(18:30):
right now. UM. I do think that you know, eventually,
it's gonna come to time when they do trade him. Um,
and you know, I think it's probably gonna come before
he plays in another NFL game. So um, and I
think that you know, there are certainly teams out there
that are monitoring this situation. The thing is, guys, like,
if you're the Texans right now and you try to
(18:53):
put them out of the market, there's gonna be a
lot of teams where it's just gonna be a nonstartered,
like their owners aren't going to let them make a
move for a player that's facing the sort of things
legally that Deshaun Watson's facing now. Once we get some
clarity from the legal system, um, you know, whether he
settles the cases or not. Once the league ways in
on this and we figure out how the league's going
(19:14):
to handle it, um, you know, going into one season,
if we get legal clarity before then, then you think
the floodgates would open and there'll be more teams that
be interested more you know, gms and coaches would be
able to get their owners to sign off on it.
You know. But as it stands right now, you know,
the Texans are sitting on a twenty five year old
franchise quarterback who has been severely devalued by what's going
(19:37):
on in his life, and so, you know, for the Texans,
you know, like, while I do think that they've moved
a little bit on that and are you know, way
more amenable to the idea of moving him than they were,
you know, five six months ago. Um, I just don't
think it makes sense for them to go through with
the trade until they can get a real ret earned
(20:00):
for him. And I'm not sure that they can get
the sort of return for him they'd want, um, giving
everything that's going on. Yeah, I'm not sure they ever
will be able to at this point. But let me
ask you this, why is the NFL dragging their feet
and making a decision to at least put them on
the exemp list, Because if this was five, six, seven
years ago, I feel like he already would have been
(20:21):
on the list at this point, you already would to
be on the example list, and they would have been
moving forward with the investigation. Why are they dragging their feet? Well,
they are investigating it, Brady. I I think that the
simple answer to your question is the NFL really doesn't
do anything until they have to, and there hasn't been
anything mandatory. All this stuff so far has been voluntary.
(20:41):
The text, that's not hold on, Albert, Albert, hold On,
that's not true. The NFL would see a video or
something would have become public and then they would throw
the guy in the exemple list and then started investing. Yeah,
I agree with you on that. Like you know, so
like say there's something that creates a pr crisis for
the league, I'm with you, Like the league felt like
there's something out there that's making us look that we
(21:03):
have to do something, we have to act and yet
at this point, and I think that the situation is
sort of in status quo for a while, and that's
why I just don't think the league is going to
move on and until they have to. And the Texans
haven't had anything this mandatory at this point. Everything has
been voluntary. The Texans canceled their mandatory mini camp, so
(21:24):
that means we're not getting anything that's gonna be mandatory
until it started training camp. At that point, I think
the NFL has to make a decision because you know,
then then then you've got a team in the Texas
in a position where if DeShawn doesn't show up, and
I wouldn't expect them to show up. They gotta start
finding him, and I don't think the NFL wants the
surface of Deshaun Watson showing up, you know, while all
of this is still going on legally. So that's when
(21:46):
I think they have to make a decision and they
have to do something, and maybe that's when they put
them on the Commissioner's exemplest um. But I I, you know,
I I feel like I can't. I'm racking my brain now.
But there was a situation similar to this a year
or two ago where the same question came up, and
I can remember going to the league office and asking
them about this, and the answer I got back was, well,
(22:08):
we don't make those sorts of moves in the offseason.
And I asked why, and they said, well, because we
really don't have to. And so, you know, I think
that that's that's basically a short answer to the question,
is that they're not moving right now because they don't
have to. He's Albert Brier, the MMQB dot Com NFL insider,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knocks Brady
com with you here on I'll kick the coverage. Um, So,
(22:30):
I mean the question you're going to continue to asked about.
And look, Julio Jones is gone, so now there's one
man remaining in the royal rumble of will they get
traded this offseason? And it's Aaron Rodgers. So I'm sure
you're bucket up ready to answer to ask this question
every single day you do an interview here on radio.
But the Aaron Rodgers situation, do we have any sort
(22:51):
of clarity? Do we know when he's going to be
returning to camp? Do you get the sense that maybe
Matt Lafleur knows when he'll when he'll show up? Like
where do we stand on the Rogers front? Yeah, I
don't think anybody knows, And and really guess because this
is all like kind of tied to the whims of
one guy, you know, And and I think you know,
the way Aaron's going to handle this over the next
(23:12):
two or three months wildly unpredictable. So, um, you know,
it's it's a different situation in this way. And um,
the best example I can give anybody right now is
is comparing this to the Julio situation. And that the
Julio situation, you know, for as up and down and
you know, as many different twists and turns as there
were over the last you know, three or four months
(23:34):
in the Julio situation, it was still pretty standard in
that UM teams that were looking into it. Um, even
the ones that have very mild interest in Julio, Like
if you talk to them, they had an idea of
what was going on right like so, And that's the
way it works in the NFL. Is like one of
the guys in the trade block teams that are interested,
you know it, it behooves them to figure out, like
(23:55):
what the landscape is over I wanted to ask you this, um,
you are you see being in Ohio State, Alum, you're
very familiar with Justin Fields time in Columbus and just
his performance there as a Buckeye. And now we're seeing
all these videos come out of training camp and it's
him against Andy Dalton and people are raving about how
(24:16):
they look in comparison to each other and how good
Justin Fields looks. How surprised were you during the draft
process to see so many people I don't know if
out is the right word, but down on Justin Fields
based on his time at Ohio State. Yeah, I mean
I was pretty surprised to be honest with you just
because you know, I ah, he was on so many
(24:38):
big stages um. And Brady can attest to this because
he was in a stadium, you know, on some of
those occasions. But I mean in the two season you
saw him and so many high leverage situations. Um. You know,
you saw toughness, you saw competitiveness, you saw physical ability. Um.
You know. And then I think one thing that really
(24:59):
is sort of you know luck you out to me
was what the people in the Ohio State program would
say about him. Um, And like how and I'll give
you guys this, Like I I can remember when some
of the criticisms started to mount, you know in March
and April, the calls I was getting um from people
in Columbus, uh, you know, in that program, and how
(25:20):
defensive they were about it. And it's interesting because you
know when Dwayne Haskins, when Dwayne Haskins was in the
draft of nineteen and he was criticized, you didn't hear
the same level of defensiveness. You didn't hear like people
just kind of rushing to to to get his back
the same way. Um. It's you know, I know, how well,
(25:44):
how well thought of he was you know, in that program.
And um, so it was surprising to me to hear
the level of criticism you know, he took and that
you kind of kept carrying this narrative that a lot
of people in that program were very, very very aggressive
and fighting. So, uh, is he perfect? No? Um, And
(26:04):
Brady's probably more qualified to go through like the stuff
about the football stuff than I am. But um, you know,
he doesn't need to play more, and I think Ryan
Day would say that, you know, like that he just
needs to he needs more snaps, and um, you know
that's normal for a quarterback his age, but the potential
is off the charts and just you know, from a
football character standpoint. And I don't think you need to
(26:25):
be a scout or a coach or a former quarterback
to see the toughness and competitiveness that he displayed the
last two years. So I was surprised that he slipped
the eleventh pick. And um, you know, I think he's
got a good shot to be a really good player,
you know, with the Bears, provided they create the right
environment for him there, which is always a big question
for any quarterback. No, well said, I think perseverance too, right,
(26:47):
like some of those games where he struggled, people tend
to forget they still won, like they're act like their
season just went to the wayside because he played bad,
like they still won the game. He still figured it
out at the end. I want to transition to talking about, um,
just the Julio Jones trade. Were you surprised in the end,
Albert by the compensation that ended up being because it
(27:08):
seems like DeAndre Hopkins has given that he was also
traded for a second round pick. Why is it hard
for these guys to wrap their head around where they're
at at their age, even as good as they have
been of the past decade. Well, I think he hit
the right word there, Brady of age. Um, you know,
and I went and looked at this actually, and you know,
there's been a little bit of a boom and blockbuster
(27:29):
trades the last few years, and so you know, I
went back over the last four years, they're been eleven
players who were traded for a first round pick. Eleven
non quarterbacks traded for a first round pick. H The
oldest one was twenty seven years old. So every single
one of them all eleven or twenty seven or younger.
Julio is thirty two. So I went back a five,
(27:49):
I went back five years before that, and the oldest
player I could find, you know, in that period that
was a non quarterback traded for a first round pick
was twenty eight years old. That was Jimmy Graham. So
I kind of kept looking back and looking back, and
I I can't find a non quarterback who was over
thirty years old and traded for a first round pick
in NFL history. It just doesn't happen. Now, I'm not
(28:10):
saying that's right or wrong. It's just the way the
NFL has always operated. And you know, I think even
you know, in the last you know, eleven years since
the two thou eleven cb A changed the way rookies
are paid. Um, that shifted the dynamic too, and that
you know, you have, you know, five years of cost
control on a core player with the first round pick
guy you expect to be a core player, um, you know.
(28:33):
And so teams are weighing that versus what do you
get with Julio Jones. Well maybe maybe two years, and
it's more expensive than a first round pick would be. So,
you know, I think that that's sort of the piece
of it that everybody misses. It's and I hate going
through this because it sounds like I'm bashing a guy
who's clearly a Hall of Famer and and and one
(28:54):
of the greatest receivers of his era. But I mean,
you add the age to the injury history. He's managed
the foot over the course of his career. Um, he's
got knee issues, that hamstring took him out for half
of the year last year. He can't practice every day,
which is an issue for some coaches. I mean, I
think he added all up and you can see why
a lot of teams had kind of one toe but
(29:15):
not you know, both feet in the pool. When it
came to Julio Jones, like they were interested in it,
but they were only interested in it to a point
because you know, they felt like there's probably a year
or two left at the level that he's at, and
then after that, you know, you're looking at at a
different sort of player, and you know, even if it
stands right now, he has to be managed a certain way.
(29:36):
So I like it for the Titans because of where
they're at, and they've got so many guys that are
right there smacking the prime of their careers. Guys like
you know Taylor, the one coming off the injury, Ryan Tannehill,
Derrick Henry, Kevin Buyer, Um, guys that don't maybe the
guys that are like, you know, maybe the guys have
two or three years lest that core group with Tennessee.
(29:56):
But I can also see why, you know, trading for
Julio Jones didn't make sense for everybody, great as he's
been as a player. Yeah, Albert, can I ask you
one more real quick? I mean we were trying to
settle up eight earlier in the show, Jonas kind of
teased it cryogenically freezing people. Would you be someone who
would opt for that? Jesus man, listen, I'm trying to
(30:17):
be a potestional podcast. When when when you guys brought
that up, I actually thought like that was a big
controversy with Ted Williams. Yes, thank you, thank you? Yes.
Is it controversial or is it more of like maybe
it's brilliant, Maybe he's gonna be around, you know, two
thousand years from now. Yeah, it did happen to the Simpsons.
Am I wrong about this, diden or something? I think
(30:45):
I think I think there was an episode. I say
this stuff, but I think there was an episode when
Mr Burns wanted to be prosen, So you come back
and be everybody's boss, like twenty years later something. Look
that up. I think I had that right answer the question,
are you out of jet Rosen? I don't need to
be and I don't want to be anybody's guinea big
(31:05):
Now we have something to talk about, but I don't
want to be anybody's guinea pig. Well, listen, I think
we need an update to Albert Brier's Twitter bio. A
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the mm QB
dot com, also um expert on cartoon show, cryogenics, or
whatever they call it when it comes to freeze and
(31:26):
human beings. Albert Brier, Albert, we appreciate it. Thanks so
much as always, man, I have a great rest of
the day in a great weekend. Thanks all right, Thanks,
I appreciate it. That's awesome. Get him on Twitter again
at Albert Brier. Always good stuff there here on Fox
Sports Radio. I mean, you know, we didn't get neither
one of us on that interview. What's that a great question?
I never said great question. We got to do a
(31:47):
better job. I was just thinking about that. We're not
so just for people, so people know we're not used
to having guests, because we do. We do Sunday nights,
and nobody wants to come on with us. Uh and
you just heard technically not true. Okay. We have no
problem throwing out the phone line and playing games with
(32:08):
our drunk guests. It's just people who are like in
the media realm, that professional, they don't want to come out. No,
it's not even now, it's just not not even having Yeah,
of course, I mean, but but anybody drinking at this
time of day, I want no part of I don't
want to lose my job because some guy has got
a brown bag of steel reserve and something from a
(32:29):
breakfast drive through menu, and and he's a cruising around town.
Not interested, not interested? All right, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, there's somebody
in the NFL who's extremely bitter. At some point. You
gotta let it go, dude. We will get into that. Here.
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(32:49):
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there's somebody in the NFL who had by far and
(33:32):
away the best offseason of anybody. I mean, and it
could just continues to get better. Now I'm letting people
know ahead of time Brady Quinn is going to try
and steer that conversation, uh and make it centered around
my in laws. Uh. And and and I will not
I will not have that. I will not I will
not disparage this quarterback. Uh. What is what is going on?
(33:53):
First off? Just letting you know, why why are you
teasing something that we talked about before the show. Oh
that was such a my new detail. But you think
it's gonna become the entire segment because it's a better tease.
I mean, this is not it's not about movie drove
by and Jonas knocks as the driver. Now, listen, it's
(34:14):
not about whether the movie is good. It's about whether
or not the previews are good enough to get a
bunch of people at the theaters like falls. I mean,
that's that's the way this thing goes. It's like the
card in the fight, right, Like Mayweather has done this,
many of the promoters have done this. As long as
the card looks good, people are gonna pay them buy it,
and they make the you know, the Weigans look like
(34:34):
it's tough, and they're gonna get in a fight like
they're gonna you know, of course I get that, but
that is not the my new detail. I thought you'd
be pointing out about the Well, we'll save it for
the top of the next hour, all right. I'm all
about motivation, Like if somebody says something, or somebody tells
you you're not gonna make it, you're not gonna do anything.
When I'm all about motivation. But at a certain point,
(34:58):
if you've already made it, don't you have to kind
of move on and say, man, I don't want to
talk about this anymore. DeAndre Hopkins just can't seem to
move on, like he he can't seem and you you
mentioned this before you got into freezing uh corpses with
Albert Brier a few minutes ago on Fox Sports Radio.
Check out the podcast if you want to hear that
Dynamite interview. Technically, that's it accurate that usually people are
(35:21):
actually being frozen before they're dead, so it's not a corpse.
It's a living body that's like a controlled death to
then freeze again. You gotta look this stuff up. It's
pretty fascinating, all right again and in our four sounds
like a plan. We will get into that when we
when we break down that that Son's Denver Nuggets series
as well too. Uh Now the so DeAndre hopkins um
(35:43):
is talking about, you know, I want to see a
first round pick who could do what Julio Jones and
myself do because he's upset that he was traded for
a second round pick. Like, who cares? Man, What does
it matter what you got traded for? Are you not
happy in Arizona? Did you not get a new contract
when you got there? Why is this even still the
(36:03):
topic of conversation, Like at some point you gotta move on.
I have no idea, I mean, And the weird thing
was is that this time it obviously wasn't even about him,
It was about Julio Jones. And as Albert Breer just discussed,
we haven't seen a wide receiver or any other position
outside of a quarterback thirty plus be traded for a
(36:24):
first round pick. So clearly there's a formula that teams
are looking at front office executives are looking at when
trying to trade for players at those positions. And I
think in both cases of the players, you know they
you know, there's there's business impacts too, as far as
the contract and what that was gonna mean with him
going to Arizona. But the thing that upsets because I
(36:44):
want to see a first round pick. Okay, I'll give
you an example. The first round pick DeAndre Justin Jefferson
just did it last year. In fact, he did what
you did, but a little bit better because he didn't
even start all sixteen games, played in all sixteen, didn't
start two of those, had more receiving yards and more
touchdowns than last year. So there there's an example of
a first round pick who literally did what you did
(37:05):
last year. Now, if you're talking about his entire career,
I think we can go through some first round picks
and find guys who are able to do that. But
the reality is, I mean a A J. Green who
has had a solid career now in Arizona. With him,
you know, he's been able to put the other numbers
like that throughout the course of his career. Other first
round picks will be able to. But that's that's like
the weird thing is you make a comment like that
(37:25):
and then immediately you're going, yeah, justin Jefferson, he just
did it this past season. There's an example also, who's
he upset with the team that traded him for not
getting a first round pick or the team that acquired
him who gave up lesson as a better roster because
they didn't give up a first round pick. Exactly. It
just doesn't make any sense. You know what else doesn't
make sense this show so far, we got two hours left.
(37:46):
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