July 26, 2021 • 37 mins
Jonas and Brady have a great conversation about Texas and OU joining the SEC and where this all started. The fellas talk CFB schedule early in season and (they groan) NFL vaccine talk. They make sense of the new rules in place and the reasoning. Plus, the show highlights the quote of the year, courtesy of Gardener Minshew.
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the man himself, the one, the Only Brady Quinn. Are
you one of those those guys that has traditions that
that you like to uphold or do as you get older?
Go why do we do this? Like? Why do we
have this tradition? I don't understand it or I don't
like it. I'd like to just do something different, like
like what type of guy are you? It just depends
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if they're there are certain families. Well no, but but
because I'm if if it's like a family tradition. Like
perfect example, we never opened up gifts like Christmas see
even to Christmas morning. There's some people that open them
up at midnight on Christmas Eve. We never did that,
and so my wife's family does that, and I refused
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to be a part of it because I feel like
it's tradition for us. We do it on the morning
of like you wait your turn. All right. First of all,
it's not even your birthday for the most part. Yeah.
By the way, I if I didn't tell you that,
happy birthday. Yeah, but thank you. I appreciate it. A
happy birthday to to you and yours as well to
Brady Quinn. But I just there are certain traditions that that,
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you know, I like to uphold, and then there's other ones.
I'm like whatever, like, you know, it's tough changes, you know. Okay, Well,
this this next subject we're gonna talk about is more
similar to family traditions than I would say, because I
do think there's a lot of family traditions that could
be broken because of what could be on the horizon
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in college football. Yeah. Um, so Texas say, and um,
you know, fun little story here Texas A and M.
You know, a couple of years ago, a few years ago,
now decide, hey, you know what, we want our own
our own path here, we want our own lane. We're
gonna go join the SEC. We're gonna be the only
Texas team in the SEC. What does everybody think about that? Huh?
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And then two thousand twenty one came around in Texas
and Oklahoma were like hold our moonshine, let's go ahead
and let's get into the discussion here, Brady Quinn. Where
now it appears to be a foregone conclusion. Oklahoma and
Texas appear to be headed towards the SEC. Uh. This
started out as you know, a little bit of a
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you know, one of those big lighters, you know, a
little bit of a flame. Uh, then to turn into
a stove fire. Then it turned into a forest fire,
and now we have an inferno brewing, and it seems
like the SEC is going to get a little bit
more crowded. Oklahoma and Texas appear to be on their
way to join up and what will be an absolute
super conference in the world of college football. Bye bye
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to your traditions, Bye bye to so what you used
to do with you you know, your your grandpa, your grandma,
your family, you meet out, take it tailgate and all
that good stuff. That looks like it's just it's it's
a sunken ship. You know, it's going down. Now. Look,
we're supposed to find out more information today about what's
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going to happen between Oklahoma and Texas. I'm hearing or
I've heard there's some latch last ditch efforts from the
Big Twelve, and I'll get into that in a moment,
but I think the first question you have to ask
yourself is why. And it is interesting you brought up
Texas and M because when Texas and M left, and
in my my recollection is correct, their final year in
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the Big Twelve was two thousand and eleven, and so
two thousand twelves when they started playing in the SEC.
You represent the only team in the state of Texas
that represents the SEC. And the reason why they did
that was twofold. I don't think it was just about
money or the revenue shaff the TV revenue, which the
SEC generates the most of all Power five conferences. It's
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the SEC than Big Ten, that's the pecking order. So
there's a part of it that obviously played a role
with them jumping in for more revenue. However, I also
think it was about recruiting. How can you differentiate yourself
from what was the University of Texas, which when the
University of Texas is rolling Allah Vince Young mac Brown
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two thousand and five, they could get anyone in the
state of Texas they want. Okay, the long Horns, the
money they're generating the branding everything else, especially nowadays with name,
image and likeness. But the truth of the matter is
Texas and M saw the opportunity, they took it, and
they benefited from And now it hasn't equated into national championships,
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but it has from a recruiting standpoint, if you were
to average the last five recruiting classes between Texas and M,
and the University of Texas and M has edged them
out on average. They've had better recruiting class passes and
have been able to take away some of that talent.
And I think more often than not last year case
in point, Texas A and M has been at least
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on that cusp of getting into the College Football Playoff,
where Texas can't even win the Big Twelve. And so
this really begs the question why why would Texas and
Oklahoma either of them? Given that Texas has struggled to
compete in the Big twelve, how in the hell are
they going to compete in the SEC? And for Oklahoma,
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a team that's really dominated the Big Twelve, a team
that's essentially got a free pass, a free ticket when
we expand to a twelve team playoff would almost assuredly
have a buy because they would be one of the
conference champions, most assuredly in the Big Twelve because Lincoln
Riley and they have dominated ever since he's taken over
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his head coach. So if that's the case, why why move? Why? Now?
The only thing I can really assume from all of
this is last year made a lot of Yeah. I
think teams look in the mirror. Most universities ran out
a deficit and they said to themselves, we need to
look out for ourselves. We need to we need to
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go into self preservation, self preservation mode. We can't continue
to lift up all these other schools that aren't generating
any profit and stay in a conference where we don't
know that we're being appreciated the way we should be.
Where even the Big Twelve would admit Texas and Oklahoma
they generate fifty percent of the revenue for the entire conference.
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Think about that. And so what's happened now? Is this
the sec solid opportunity. They came in and they said, well, look,
if we can make as many changes that we did
in one year's time due to COVID, we can make
a lot of changes. Whether it's N I, L or
even how we look at the structure of all this.
We're talking about a twelve team playoff, or if we're
talking about twelve team playoff, why don't we talk about
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maybe a sixteen team conference, maybe a twenty team conference.
Why don't we talk about blowing this whole thing up
to make it bigger and better than it's ever been before.
Let's go after the biggest brands in college football. And
obviously they've made a compelling pitch to Texas and Oklahoma.
And this didn't happen overnight. It's been months in the making.
And so if you're looking for the pluses for both
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Texas and Oklahoma, it's about money. Like it always is, folks,
It's about the money that's genera generated from the TV contracts.
It's about the way the SEC handled COVID. They were
the they were the conference that first decided to go
out and platt and look, I know the Big twelve
did as well. They played their conference schedule, their conference games.
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You know, they were very upfront about it. But as
far as the revenue generated, they really can't compare in
that regard. And so if the if name, image and
likeness becomes such a big deal in recruiting, and if
that's the edge you're looking for, then obviously you want
to be in the SEC where you feel like you
can entice more players if they want to play in
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that conference. And then the last thing I'll just say
is we haven't talked about these athletes maybe getting a
piece of the TV revenue. If they can get a
piece of the TV revenue, would you want to go
with the TV revenue is the biggest I mean, that's
that's a huge recruiting pitch. Yeah, I think I think
that point right there is is probably the least discussed,
but would be the most interesting whether or not these
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guys are going to get a cut of the TV revenue.
And and the sec U look, it is, it's it's
the biggest show in college football. People can get annoyed
by it, they can get you know, irritated by it,
but football just means more in that conference than it
does and other conferences, and it just does. I remember
when we were talking about I was doing a show
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with Bucky Brooks here on Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio,
and when this was in the middle of the pandemic
and they were trying to figure out Oh my god,
are we gonna have a college football season? And he
just said, he's like, look, man, he's all I'm from
the South. I can assure you the SEC is gonna
have a season and there's gonna be fans at those games.
People people thought it was nuts, and they did. There
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was there was no wavering, there was no no, no, no,
we are having a season and we're gonna have fans
there It just they so if you could, if these
guys can get a cut of that TV revenue, like
it makes all the sense in the world. And to
your point on Texas, man, like, let's let's call it
what it is. Just in the state of Texas. Just
think about all the teams that have been closer to
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a national title than Texas As. TCU was closer to
a national title than Texas and Baylor for that matter,
if not an m if not for the Big Twelve
botching the determining who their conference was, they would have
had one of Baylor or TCU in probably the first year. Yeah. So,
like Texas has been the fourth best team in state
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as far as from a national relevancy standpoint over the
past several years in college football, and I just here's
here's my question on the timing though, when it comes
to Texas, if name, image and likeness is now here
and you're Texas, wouldn't it be easier to now sell
your brand and put up and and put together a
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better season in the Big Big twelve than it would
be in the SEC. Because if they're if they're this
version of Texas in the Big twelve, where the hell
do they rank in the SEC? That murders row that
that's the hard thing. And you have to wonder if
Steve Sarkasian, which reportedly he was aware of this being
a potential or this being a possibility and taking this job. Now, grant,
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he just came from Alabama. He just was the offensive coordinator,
so he understands the recruit what's required from a recruiting standpoint.
He understands what he's going up against week to week.
So I don't think that, you know, he's fearful at
all of it. How they stack up, that's the biggest question,
because even though n M has recruited at a better
clip of late than Texas has, it's not like Texas
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has been that far behind. The issue with Texas has
been the lack of development the lack of development, and
I would say the lack of a quarterback that could
ultimate only give them truly a chance that's lethal from
the pocket, can also hurt you with his legs. Sam
Ellinger could hurt you with his legs. He wasn't as
prolific of of a passer from the pocket as I
think other quarterbacks have been, and they haven't had someone
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like that since Colbacoy. So that that's if you look
at the the blue blood programs that have struggled the Texas,
the Michigan, et cetera, they haven't had a quarterback that's
been drafted somewhere in the top couple rounds that you
could say, no, that's a dude. I mean again, I'm
not taking away from what Sam Ellinger did during his
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time in Texas. He's a really good college quarterback. He's
he's going to have a chance in the NFL. But
as far as his his skill set compared to you
know what you saw from v Y who was the
first round pick, very different, right, I mean v Y
not only could throw effectively enough the pocket, but was
maybe one of the better rushing quarterbacks in college football history.
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So again, very very different in that regard. But I
want to get back to just when you look at
the decision and and how this leaks out, if your
Texas and Oklahoma, you know, is this a done deal?
I don't know. We're probably gonna find out later on today,
but well, what I can tell you is you wanted
to leak out because if if the if they have
any desire to stay in the Big Twelve, any desire whatsoever,
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this is what they push for now. And they say,
we don't believe we should get the same as the
same amount of revenue as Kansas. Yeah, they were a
great basketball school, but they don't do anything in football.
And it's a disaster right now at that school in football.
And we know that football is the one sport that
generates profit or generates more revenue than any other sport
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in most cases across college sports. So if that's the case,
we want to we want a bigger piece of the pie.
We're Oklahoma, where Texas, where your biggest brands. We bring
in fifty of the overall revenue in the Big Twelve.
We want our take. We're gonna split up that revenue
and you guys can take the other fifty between the
eight of you and you guys can divide that up
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and you might say, well, this is only going to
create a bigger gap, but the reality is there's already
a humongous gap as we sit here right now, and
so that could be their pitch to them. Here's the
problem with that. If you're Bob Bowlsby, if you're the
commissioner of the Big Twelve, you've got every other conference
commissioner looking at you and going, oh, no, don't do that,
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because if once you do that, then the U s
c s and Organs they're gonna do the same thing.
In the Pack twelve, you've got Ohio State, you can
easily do it, and then Clemson is gonna do it.
In the A c C. You've got all those other schools.
They're gonna start trying to do that, and and you're
only setting up for a long divorce and a long breakup.
You're only setting up for all those schools eventually getting tired,
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even with that revenue split, getting tired of carrying everyone else,
and they're just all gonna join the SEC or some
super conference that is kind of in the wooks works
as we speak right now. That's why reportedly you're the
SEC reached out to Ohio State, to Michigan, to Clemson,
some of the other bigger schools across college sports. I
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didn't notice they. I don't think they reached out that
any pack twelve teams, which was kind of odd. Not
not sure what's going on there, But uh, here's what
the SEC did. The SEC watched how all these other
Power of five conferences handled COVID, and they watched how
they were responded. They said, I smell blood in the water,
and we're gonna go after every one of those big brands.
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And we believe in football, it's it's culturally what we're
all about. We generate the most revenue, it means more,
and we're gonna go after. We're gonna pluck the biggest brands,
and we're gonna try to create a big conference almost
almost like what you see over in European soccer. Like
that's what they're essentially behind the scenes attempting to do
while they see this opportunity in time. Brady Quinn Jonas
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greatest quotes. And let me just challenge all our listeners
out there. This guy he's willing to give up more
than you. Okay. I don't know many people that would
sacrifice the way this guy has. Okay, he's whatever you love,
whatever you think you care about, he's willing to give
it up more than you are. All Right, that's a
hell of a tease. Look at you. I'm just saying,
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Mr Radio professional. Now, all of a sudden, I mean,
you go, I learned from the best. I learned from
the biggest tease in the business. That's right. Yeah, you
better believe it. That's right, that that that that Rob
Stone is a hell of a co host. Huh. All right,
Brady Quinn, I have a little little love for Big
Noon Kickoff man. Which, by the way, why when do
you guys get it going for Big Newon Kickoff? When's
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the official start date? So here here's the truth of
the matter. Next week, I've got to take off some time.
I'm sorry, but I do have obligations to Big Neon Kickoff.
I'll be with Rob and the boys and coach Stoops
now who's replacing Coach Meyer. We get ready to go
out for our retreat for all the stuff with college
football NFL coverage for Fox next Monday and Tuesday, so
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I will miss radio for those obligations. And then we've
actually got to shoot, uh, well a shoot in the
state of California. If if god willing, Gavin Newsom will
allow us student due to COVID uh in those restrictions,
So God willing will then have a shoot We've got
to do for Wednesday. I don't know what exactly it's for,
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but yeah, then I'll hopefully be back on Friday, as
I'll be traveling on a red eye back I think
I'll miss a portion of the show traveling back for
a red eye, so I'll be able to work one
day next week. But basically next week it really starts
to get going for us. God, I'm so excited, man,
I am so excited for college football. And you know
what I do, like, here's the subtle little change that
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they've made in college football that that I really do appreciate.
It used to be back in the day where they
would they would refer to it as a week zero.
They would call it, Oh, it's week zero, and it
would be you know, they'd be probably like seven or
eight games. Usually, my Hawaii Rainbow Warriors were one of
the games that we're being played in this quote unquote
week zero. They're not doing that anymore. No, they're not
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doing it, and they're not calling it week zero. They're
calling it week one. All right, we are calling it
week one in the world of college football. And so
that August which is just a little over a month away,
that's Saturday. You gotta slate of games, all right. You
do have Nebraska Illinois, which is which is the game
that's going to be turned on Fox. You've got a
Hawaii at U C l A, you've got the San
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Jose States of the world. Eddie Garcia's Fresno State Bulldogs
are gonna be playing I I at least appreciate that
we're not dismissing that opening week because all the quote
unquote blue bloods aren't part of the process. At least
we're giving some love to to those other schools that
I think deserve it. So I think last year highlighted
that if ever before right, I mean, you had other conferences,
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you know, Nonpower five conferences playing early, and they kind
of stole the spotlight, like like like Liberty for example,
who had a phenomenal season, Coastal Carolina, like those teams
started to sweep up some of the accolades, some of
the exposure. And now you've got a quarterback in Malie
Willis who may be one of the best in college football,
who may have literally because of COVID and because they
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decided to play and the way he played, he might
be a first round pick. I'm telling you right now,
he's one of my favorite quarterbacks to watch. He has
all the tools necessary to play at the next level
coming up in fifteen minutes from now. It is the
quote of the year in the NFL. You will not
find a better one, and we will have that for
you here fifteen minutes from now on. FS are so
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vaccine talk in the National Football League? My god, man,
I am so by COVID vaccine, all of this, like
I am. But the fact of the matter is it's
part of the conversation because it's been made part of
the conversation over the weekend. You've got Bruce Arians. Uh
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and and the report that came out that players that
aren't vaccinated, who are seeing and not wearing a mask
inside facilities are gonna get find fourteen thousand dollars. Uh So,
Bruce Arians was very adamant right there on the spot,
they're getting find fourteen thousand dollars. All of that happening
as we have the discussion here about vaccines in the
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National Football League and sort of the outrage because it
feels like it's calmed down a little bit over the weekend.
But man, last week, for about a twenty four hour period,
it was a hot button issue. Well it's still a
hot button issue. Or even though I think one of
the reasons why it became such a big story last
week was teams were starting to report, and I think
teams and the media and obviously the NFL they wanted
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to get it out there, so a lot of these
players who are unvaccinated will make sure they understand the
repercussions for for not following the protocols. Now, a lot
of this what's in this year was in last year's
cb A when they decided to come back and play,
they they, you know, restructured the c b A to
include a lot of these these same measures that are
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being taken for player and staff safety they were in
there last year. It's just the difference was we didn't
have a vaccine last year than the season, so now
that that we do, and as they're trying to incentivize
players to get the vaccine, you know, they're pointing out like, hey,
you can be fined four teen thousand dollars if you're
not vaccinating, you're not wearing your mask, and you're not
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following the proper protocols. You know, they're now highlighting it
as a deterrent or as an incentive to go get
the vaccine, even though at this point in time, you know,
unless you get the Johnson Johnson you know, you you
you it's still gonna take some time before you could
actually be able to be open to the same benefits
as vaccinated players. But I digress. Here's the reason why
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there's such a push, all right, here's why there's such
a push, because there's gonna be people out there tell
you it's about money and all stuff. It's not about money.
It's not it's not about money, because if it was
about money. Okay, we went through last year's season with
COVID with no vaccines. Do we miss any games? Jonas,
I'm just trying to I'm trying to think of the
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back line. So there's how many how many double Monday
night Football, Wednesday? Tuesday Wednesday? I mean. So, so here's
the reality, folks. We're not missing games. This is this
is all propaganda, it's all it's all bs because the
NFL wants this to go away. They want COVID to
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go away. And the only way you can make it
go away is if you essentially put forth protocols or
measures that where if you have almost everyone vaccinated, Okay,
you're not testing as often. Don't tell anyone they're not
gonna test as often for the vaccinated players. Okay, what
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does that mean? Well, if you don't test as often.
It's not like guys are walking in going I don't know,
I think I got COVID today, I gotta test. Guys
for forever have walked in with cold's, with flues, and
they've still practiced, and they still played because they wanted to.
They love the game, or they know they're getting paid
and it's part of their their livelihood. And so forever
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players have played with the sniffles, sick, whatever the case
may be. But because of COVID, now where the of
the cases where or a sent thematic they didn't even
know they had it. We we now were in a
world where we were testing all the time, so of
course we were gonna get some positive tests for some
people who didn't even realize they had it. I mean
John rom Up six strokes for the example of the
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pgame who's vaccinated had it kicking everyone's butt and that
tour and then he has to go sit out the
final day. And so the truth of the matter is
the NFL they want as many players to be vaccinated
as possible, so they don't test as often, and if
they don't test as often, it's not a story because
they don't have to talk about a positive test. And
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then on top of that, if there is a positive test,
you know what you can do. If you're a vaccinated player,
you don't have to sit out. The contact tracing protocols
that are in place for a non vaccinated player are
drastically different than a vaccinated player. And so last year
one of the issues was not that we had a
ton of positive test The other issue was contact tracing,
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and so we had all these players who are sitting
around a guy who did test positive. Then they were
out too. And so that's the Those are the two
reasons why it's not about money again, it's about the
NFL wanting this to go away because last year, with
the testing protocols, every week goes a storyline. This year,
if everyone's vaccinated, it's not a storyline. Not many, not
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as many guys can be tested as often, not as
many positive tests in general. And then even if they are,
you're not gonna see this huge number of players having
to miss a game or having to move a game
because of contact tracy because the majority of them are vaccinated.
That's what this is about. That's what I hate about
this whole conversation is and even though we took the
time to talk about it. It's to educate people in
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the fact of what's actually taking place and why the
NFL is pushing for a vaccine so hard. There's obviously
other health and safety things too that benefited, but these
guys are at risk anyways, so so let let's be
real about what that's about. They want this whole COVID
news and storyline in the NFL to go away. Yeah,
and to your point on the you know, promp Baganda
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portion of this that that was my biggest takeaway when
everybody was freaking out last week and they were saying,
oh my god, they're they're gonna, They're gonna forfeit games.
Teams are gonna So basically, if you if you're not vaccinated,
you're gonna cost your team a super Bowl. You're gonna
cost your team, Like you're being dude. That is the
last ditch move for the NFL. They will go above
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and beyond to make sure they don't have to forfeit
games like it's a disaster. A year ago, we played
double Monday Night. Get like you remember the remember the
Patriots Chiefs game. It was played like two I remember
it was the two thirty in the afternoon, uh in
southern California out here, and they were playing Patriots Chiefs.
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Remember that was because Cam Newton got COVID and so
they rolled out Brian Hoyer and Jared Stidham and they
were playing that game. They played, uh Wednesday game Steelers
Washington was a win. The NFL is gonna figure out
a way to get these games in. They're not forfeiting games.
And when people were freaking out about it, I just said,
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hold on that that is last. They will go as
far as they possibly can. That's the last thing they
want to do. They're not gonna forfeit games. And and
and when you point out the number of players that
are getting vaccinated, you notice they're not telling you hundred.
You notice the big number everybody's throwing out. That's the
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threshold every team. Yes, so they're telling you, we understand
some guys are not gonna get vaccinated. It just is
what it is. Whether it's Cole Beasley, whether it's you know,
Jalen Ramsey, DeAndre Hopkins, whoever it is. And furthermore, I
don't care who's vaccinated and who's not vaccinated. It's not
my business. I couldn't care less. It doesn't matter whether
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you're a player and you've decided to get it or
Knox and I know it does you know it to
some people out there, But this is an individual choice,
and so we're not talking about it from that perspective.
We're talking about the reasoning, but high the NFL making
such a push as much as is about the safety
of the players, coaches and all involved. Let's be real
about this. Let's let's be real for a second. You
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have stadiums that are gonna be at full capacity and
there's no requirement for those individuals to be vaccinated. Do
they have to wear a mask? Sure social distance, No,
not if they're a full capacity. So let's not be
blinded by what the initiative is here. The NFL wants
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us to go away. They wanted to go away, and
the best chance they have of doing that is having
as many players vaccinated as possible, as many teams at
the eighty five percent threshold that jonas you mentioned a
few minutes ago, have as many players at that threshold
as possible, and then once you do that, then it's
not it's a non story. Contact tracing not a big
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as big of an issue. Positive test not as big
of an issue. You're playing ball, we're moving forward, and
we can forget about all of it, very much like
we did at times last year. It's just it was
the media that was obsessed with it and wanting to
make us into the scare tactic every single week that
there was gonna be a game canceled. Tell me this much, Jonas.
Is it safer to play right now in the NFL,
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given that we've got guys vaccinated and probably better treatments
for those who have chosen not to get vaccinated. Yes, yes, yes,
and yes yeah. It's look at the whole when when
when the stuff comes out, there's immediate panic, I think
a lot. And you know, whether DeAndre Hopkins who came
out and was like, you know, and they're making me
question and I think even he realized, all right, cool down,
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read the whole thing all the way through, and then
you realize, look, they're not telling you. The NFL isn't
telling you you have to get vaccinated. They're just saying
we're gonna make it difficult on guys that don't get vaccinated.
But the idea that they're going to cancel games, I
just thought was the biggest BS I just I don't
think it's happening. I would put I would be willing
to bet a large sum of money not one game
gets canceled in the NFL this season. A large sum
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of money on that. Is that a bet? Is that
a line? Can we go find that something? Yeah, I'm
sure we can. Absolutely, I would put everything I own
that there's not gonna be a game canceled, at least
not due to COVID. Now, you could have one canceled
due to especially you know, hurricane something like that, depending
on on on where that game is being played, But
as far as due to COVID, not one game will
be canceled. Yeah, and I'm sure they'll blame COVID for
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that as well too. All right, Brady quinn Jonas knocks,
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on Fox Sports Radio. So um lost in the Tim
Tebow Trevor Lawrence discussion in Jacksonville where Trevor Lawrence is
now the face of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Urban Meyer also
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part of that discussion, your former co host on Big
newon Kickoff. Who's now the head coach there. You've also
got Tim Tebow trying to make the roster is a
tight end. Lost in all of that is maybe our
favorite story of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that is one
none other than Gardner Minshew, who is still on the roster,
still there at quarterback, and he was on with Chris
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Long the podcast in which you know Chris Long has
the green Light Podcast, and um, Gardner Minshew had the
following money quote and I'm calling it the quote of
the year. Thus far uh in preparation for the quarterback competition,
I haven't taken an s in weeks. Number two isn't
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an option for me. So that is a commitment to
your craft, Brady Quinn. That is fully committed. He hasn't
apparently taken a dump in weeks because number two is
not on the venue that absolute. I love Gardner. I
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mean he's got some Alzheimer's um and it's and here's
the thing, like, in all seriousness about his chance of
making the roster, they need him. He's got NFL experience,
as you know, as a starter. If Trevor Lawrence gets hurt,
if there is any other issue where Lawrence can play,
you can bring Minshew in. I think with the way
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they've continued to build the roster now Urban Meyers taken over,
he'd do a good job Um, he's not gonna be
the caliber of quarterback that Trevor is, but he's a
better option. And look, he's a better option than Tibow. Okay,
because here's what happens if you try to to go
the whole route of well, let's trade Minshew. We don't
want him to be a backup. You know, we'll get
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some value back form. Let's have Tubo will be the
backup an emergency situations. Look, the entire offset offense changes. Okay,
he can't throw the football anywhere close to Lawrence or Gardner, Minshew.
The whole idea that he was brought on to be
a tight end that goes to the wayside. And so
the whole, the whole reason of why is there falls apart,
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and it looks like it looks like this effort where
Urbans trying to get him there to have him start
and play games. So the truth of the batter is,
I don't see that being how this plays out. I
think they know they need someone behind Lawrence that has
some starting experience. He's beloved in the locker room for
these kind of quotes and different shenanigans. The kid works
his tail off. I hope they don't try to trade him,
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and especially not if it's just all about a jersey
number just so Tebow can have number fifteen. I didn't
think about that. Oh gosh, if that happens, like that's
when you know, like it's it's it was all for
not like what this was really about. And I'm still
not so sure that we don't know that about the
Tebow signing. Um. Look, I I was watching a it
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was a game from last year. I think, yeah, last year.
I forget which game it was, but there was a
game that was being we he was phenomenal. He was
phenomenal week one. Yeah, and you watch some of minh
whose games. Dude, there's a spot for him in this league. Like,
there's absolutely a spot for Gardner Minshew in the league.
I actually I thought he played and let's call it
(34:08):
what it is, he outplayed Nick Foles. After Nick Foles
got that contract, nick Foles got hurt, and Gardner Minshew
was thrown into the starting lineup in that game the
opener again, I think it was against the Chiefs. I
think Kansas City, Yes, And he was thrown thrown in
as a rookie, and the guy played well and and
it was almost like they were looking for a reason
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to get Nick Foles back in, because you remember, Minshew
had that game in London where he didn't play all
that well and he threw the late pick and all
of a sudden, Folds was put back in. But they
ended up going back to Minshew later on because he
was the best quarterback on the roster. So this this
idea that well, you know, yeah, it's Gardner Minshew, and
I think some people sort of scoff at it. Dude,
he's had really good performances in the NFL. No, he's
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capable of if he was in a better situation than
what he was kind of birthed into in the NFL.
You know, his career had probably a different point. But
if you look at his rookie season stats and what
he did at that time with that roster, it was
it was pretty it was pretty significant. I mean you
could almost made a case where if they were a
team that was at a winning record, you might look
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at it more seriously as maybe a Rookie of the
Year candidate, But because of their team record, because of
how that all worked out, it wasn't gonna it wasn't
gonna work that way. The truth of the matter is,
and I got to call some games towards the end
of that year. You know that that team needed his
skill set because he can move around a little bit better,
and he kind of provided a spark to them, you know,
even though they struggled, he still you know, provided more
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than Nick Foles than at that time. But you know, now, look,
this is Trevor Lawrence's team. It's just it's more about
what they would have if he gets hurt. And it's
not like Trevor Lawrence has been hurt before. They should
think about keeping a guy like him, with his experience
and a guy that could come in with a hot hand,
that kind of has that that kind of attitude. Like
this guy, he's willing to go without having a bowel
(35:56):
movement for weeks because number two is not an option.
You're telling of me, you don't want that guy on
your team. That's a great point. He could join our
show anytime if he wants to come all be a
part of this. I would I would gladly accept the
guy that's willing to forego one of your most basic,
you know, human aspects of your life. Okay, yeah, yeah,
(36:17):
let me tell you something like you you can't go
you know, three commercial branks without you know, sitting down
and reading read I got a fast with Tapolis and
speaking of after you ate all that ice cream, you know,
you're having all sorts of issues. I mean, I don't
want to, you know, peel back the curtains too much.
Yeah again, not too much here, but you're having all
sorts of issues in that department. Yeah. Let me, I'm
(36:38):
doing in the show from the bathroom right now. I'm
looking at the plunger like so I'm staring right now
on a plunge. I actually heard. I heard Little Bertie
told me that you wanted to make the declaration on
Live here to Scott Shapiro that you're not gonna go
number two until you get this show full time. That's
what I heard. Yeah, well, let me tell you something.
If we were planning on getting the show full time,
this segment just pretty much ended. Move right along, it's
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the man himself, the one, the Only Brady Quinn. Are
you one of those those guys that has traditions that
that you like to uphold or do as you get older?
Go why do we do this? Like? Why do we
have this tradition? I don't understand it or I don't
like it. I'd like to just do something different, like
like what type of guy are you? It just depends
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if they're there are certain families. Well no, but but
because I'm if if it's like a family tradition. Like
perfect example, we never opened up gifts like Christmas see
even to Christmas morning. There's some people that open them
up at midnight on Christmas Eve. We never did that,
and so my wife's family does that, and I refused
(01:08):
to be a part of it because I feel like
it's tradition for us. We do it on the morning
of like you wait your turn. All right. First of all,
it's not even your birthday for the most part. Yeah.
By the way, I if I didn't tell you that,
happy birthday. Yeah, but thank you. I appreciate it. A
happy birthday to to you and yours as well to
Brady Quinn. But I just there are certain traditions that that,
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you know, I like to uphold, and then there's other ones.
I'm like whatever, like, you know, it's tough changes, you know. Okay, Well,
this this next subject we're gonna talk about is more
similar to family traditions than I would say, because I
do think there's a lot of family traditions that could
be broken because of what could be on the horizon
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in college football. Yeah. Um, so Texas say, and um,
you know, fun little story here Texas A and M.
You know, a couple of years ago, a few years ago,
now decide, hey, you know what, we want our own
our own path here, we want our own lane. We're
gonna go join the SEC. We're gonna be the only
Texas team in the SEC. What does everybody think about that? Huh?
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And then two thousand twenty one came around in Texas
and Oklahoma were like hold our moonshine, let's go ahead
and let's get into the discussion here, Brady Quinn. Where
now it appears to be a foregone conclusion. Oklahoma and
Texas appear to be headed towards the SEC. Uh. This
started out as you know, a little bit of a
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you know, one of those big lighters, you know, a
little bit of a flame. Uh, then to turn into
a stove fire. Then it turned into a forest fire,
and now we have an inferno brewing, and it seems
like the SEC is going to get a little bit
more crowded. Oklahoma and Texas appear to be on their
way to join up and what will be an absolute
super conference in the world of college football. Bye bye
(02:53):
to your traditions, Bye bye to so what you used
to do with you you know, your your grandpa, your grandma,
your family, you meet out, take it tailgate and all
that good stuff. That looks like it's just it's it's
a sunken ship. You know, it's going down. Now. Look,
we're supposed to find out more information today about what's
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going to happen between Oklahoma and Texas. I'm hearing or
I've heard there's some latch last ditch efforts from the
Big Twelve, and I'll get into that in a moment,
but I think the first question you have to ask
yourself is why. And it is interesting you brought up
Texas and M because when Texas and M left, and
in my my recollection is correct, their final year in
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the Big Twelve was two thousand and eleven, and so
two thousand twelves when they started playing in the SEC.
You represent the only team in the state of Texas
that represents the SEC. And the reason why they did
that was twofold. I don't think it was just about
money or the revenue shaff the TV revenue, which the
SEC generates the most of all Power five conferences. It's
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the SEC than Big Ten, that's the pecking order. So
there's a part of it that obviously played a role
with them jumping in for more revenue. However, I also
think it was about recruiting. How can you differentiate yourself
from what was the University of Texas, which when the
University of Texas is rolling Allah Vince Young mac Brown
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two thousand and five, they could get anyone in the
state of Texas they want. Okay, the long Horns, the
money they're generating the branding everything else, especially nowadays with name,
image and likeness. But the truth of the matter is
Texas and M saw the opportunity, they took it, and
they benefited from And now it hasn't equated into national championships,
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but it has from a recruiting standpoint, if you were
to average the last five recruiting classes between Texas and M,
and the University of Texas and M has edged them
out on average. They've had better recruiting class passes and
have been able to take away some of that talent.
And I think more often than not last year case
in point, Texas A and M has been at least
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on that cusp of getting into the College Football Playoff,
where Texas can't even win the Big Twelve. And so
this really begs the question why why would Texas and
Oklahoma either of them? Given that Texas has struggled to
compete in the Big twelve, how in the hell are
they going to compete in the SEC? And for Oklahoma,
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a team that's really dominated the Big Twelve, a team
that's essentially got a free pass, a free ticket when
we expand to a twelve team playoff would almost assuredly
have a buy because they would be one of the
conference champions, most assuredly in the Big Twelve because Lincoln
Riley and they have dominated ever since he's taken over
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his head coach. So if that's the case, why why move? Why? Now?
The only thing I can really assume from all of
this is last year made a lot of Yeah. I
think teams look in the mirror. Most universities ran out
a deficit and they said to themselves, we need to
look out for ourselves. We need to we need to
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go into self preservation, self preservation mode. We can't continue
to lift up all these other schools that aren't generating
any profit and stay in a conference where we don't
know that we're being appreciated the way we should be.
Where even the Big Twelve would admit Texas and Oklahoma
they generate fifty percent of the revenue for the entire conference.
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Think about that. And so what's happened now? Is this
the sec solid opportunity. They came in and they said, well, look,
if we can make as many changes that we did
in one year's time due to COVID, we can make
a lot of changes. Whether it's N I, L or
even how we look at the structure of all this.
We're talking about a twelve team playoff, or if we're
talking about twelve team playoff, why don't we talk about
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maybe a sixteen team conference, maybe a twenty team conference.
Why don't we talk about blowing this whole thing up
to make it bigger and better than it's ever been before.
Let's go after the biggest brands in college football. And
obviously they've made a compelling pitch to Texas and Oklahoma.
And this didn't happen overnight. It's been months in the making.
And so if you're looking for the pluses for both
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Texas and Oklahoma, it's about money. Like it always is, folks,
It's about the money that's genera generated from the TV contracts.
It's about the way the SEC handled COVID. They were
the they were the conference that first decided to go
out and platt and look, I know the Big twelve
did as well. They played their conference schedule, their conference games.
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You know, they were very upfront about it. But as
far as the revenue generated, they really can't compare in
that regard. And so if the if name, image and
likeness becomes such a big deal in recruiting, and if
that's the edge you're looking for, then obviously you want
to be in the SEC where you feel like you
can entice more players if they want to play in
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that conference. And then the last thing I'll just say
is we haven't talked about these athletes maybe getting a
piece of the TV revenue. If they can get a
piece of the TV revenue, would you want to go
with the TV revenue is the biggest I mean, that's
that's a huge recruiting pitch. Yeah, I think I think
that point right there is is probably the least discussed,
but would be the most interesting whether or not these
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guys are going to get a cut of the TV revenue.
And and the sec U look, it is, it's it's
the biggest show in college football. People can get annoyed
by it, they can get you know, irritated by it,
but football just means more in that conference than it
does and other conferences, and it just does. I remember
when we were talking about I was doing a show
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with Bucky Brooks here on Saturdays on Fox Sports Radio,
and when this was in the middle of the pandemic
and they were trying to figure out Oh my god,
are we gonna have a college football season? And he
just said, he's like, look, man, he's all I'm from
the South. I can assure you the SEC is gonna
have a season and there's gonna be fans at those games.
People people thought it was nuts, and they did. There
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was there was no wavering, there was no no, no, no,
we are having a season and we're gonna have fans
there It just they so if you could, if these
guys can get a cut of that TV revenue, like
it makes all the sense in the world. And to
your point on Texas, man, like, let's let's call it
what it is. Just in the state of Texas. Just
think about all the teams that have been closer to
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a national title than Texas As. TCU was closer to
a national title than Texas and Baylor for that matter,
if not an m if not for the Big Twelve
botching the determining who their conference was, they would have
had one of Baylor or TCU in probably the first year. Yeah. So,
like Texas has been the fourth best team in state
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as far as from a national relevancy standpoint over the
past several years in college football, and I just here's
here's my question on the timing though, when it comes
to Texas, if name, image and likeness is now here
and you're Texas, wouldn't it be easier to now sell
your brand and put up and and put together a
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better season in the Big Big twelve than it would
be in the SEC. Because if they're if they're this
version of Texas in the Big twelve, where the hell
do they rank in the SEC? That murders row that
that's the hard thing. And you have to wonder if
Steve Sarkasian, which reportedly he was aware of this being
a potential or this being a possibility and taking this job. Now, grant,
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he just came from Alabama. He just was the offensive coordinator,
so he understands the recruit what's required from a recruiting standpoint.
He understands what he's going up against week to week.
So I don't think that, you know, he's fearful at
all of it. How they stack up, that's the biggest question,
because even though n M has recruited at a better
clip of late than Texas has, it's not like Texas
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has been that far behind. The issue with Texas has
been the lack of development the lack of development, and
I would say the lack of a quarterback that could
ultimate only give them truly a chance that's lethal from
the pocket, can also hurt you with his legs. Sam
Ellinger could hurt you with his legs. He wasn't as
prolific of of a passer from the pocket as I
think other quarterbacks have been, and they haven't had someone
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like that since Colbacoy. So that that's if you look
at the the blue blood programs that have struggled the Texas,
the Michigan, et cetera, they haven't had a quarterback that's
been drafted somewhere in the top couple rounds that you
could say, no, that's a dude. I mean again, I'm
not taking away from what Sam Ellinger did during his
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time in Texas. He's a really good college quarterback. He's
he's going to have a chance in the NFL. But
as far as his his skill set compared to you
know what you saw from v Y who was the
first round pick, very different, right, I mean v Y
not only could throw effectively enough the pocket, but was
maybe one of the better rushing quarterbacks in college football history.
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So again, very very different in that regard. But I
want to get back to just when you look at
the decision and and how this leaks out, if your
Texas and Oklahoma, you know, is this a done deal?
I don't know. We're probably gonna find out later on today,
but well, what I can tell you is you wanted
to leak out because if if the if they have
any desire to stay in the Big Twelve, any desire whatsoever,
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this is what they push for now. And they say,
we don't believe we should get the same as the
same amount of revenue as Kansas. Yeah, they were a
great basketball school, but they don't do anything in football.
And it's a disaster right now at that school in football.
And we know that football is the one sport that
generates profit or generates more revenue than any other sport
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in most cases across college sports. So if that's the case,
we want to we want a bigger piece of the pie.
We're Oklahoma, where Texas, where your biggest brands. We bring
in fifty of the overall revenue in the Big Twelve.
We want our take. We're gonna split up that revenue
and you guys can take the other fifty between the
eight of you and you guys can divide that up
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and you might say, well, this is only going to
create a bigger gap, but the reality is there's already
a humongous gap as we sit here right now, and
so that could be their pitch to them. Here's the
problem with that. If you're Bob Bowlsby, if you're the
commissioner of the Big Twelve, you've got every other conference
commissioner looking at you and going, oh, no, don't do that,
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because if once you do that, then the U s
c s and Organs they're gonna do the same thing.
In the Pack twelve, you've got Ohio State, you can
easily do it, and then Clemson is gonna do it.
In the A c C. You've got all those other schools.
They're gonna start trying to do that, and and you're
only setting up for a long divorce and a long breakup.
You're only setting up for all those schools eventually getting tired,
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even with that revenue split, getting tired of carrying everyone else,
and they're just all gonna join the SEC or some
super conference that is kind of in the wooks works
as we speak right now. That's why reportedly you're the
SEC reached out to Ohio State, to Michigan, to Clemson,
some of the other bigger schools across college sports. I
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didn't notice they. I don't think they reached out that
any pack twelve teams, which was kind of odd. Not
not sure what's going on there, But uh, here's what
the SEC did. The SEC watched how all these other
Power of five conferences handled COVID, and they watched how
they were responded. They said, I smell blood in the water,
and we're gonna go after every one of those big brands.
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And we believe in football, it's it's culturally what we're
all about. We generate the most revenue, it means more,
and we're gonna go after. We're gonna pluck the biggest brands,
and we're gonna try to create a big conference almost
almost like what you see over in European soccer. Like
that's what they're essentially behind the scenes attempting to do
while they see this opportunity in time. Brady Quinn Jonas
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We will get into all of that for you. It's
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this is I'll kick the coverage both of the year
from a modern day living legend in the world of football.
So that'll be coming up later on in the hour
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all time greatest quotes. This isn't hyperboally, I'm not. It's
not an overstatement. This is one of the all time
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greatest quotes. And let me just challenge all our listeners
out there. This guy he's willing to give up more
than you. Okay. I don't know many people that would
sacrifice the way this guy has. Okay, he's whatever you love,
whatever you think you care about, he's willing to give
it up more than you are. All Right, that's a
hell of a tease. Look at you. I'm just saying,
(15:55):
Mr Radio professional. Now, all of a sudden, I mean,
you go, I learned from the best. I learned from
the biggest tease in the business. That's right. Yeah, you
better believe it. That's right, that that that that Rob
Stone is a hell of a co host. Huh. All right,
Brady Quinn, I have a little little love for Big
Noon Kickoff man. Which, by the way, why when do
you guys get it going for Big Newon Kickoff? When's
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the official start date? So here here's the truth of
the matter. Next week, I've got to take off some time.
I'm sorry, but I do have obligations to Big Neon Kickoff.
I'll be with Rob and the boys and coach Stoops
now who's replacing Coach Meyer. We get ready to go
out for our retreat for all the stuff with college
football NFL coverage for Fox next Monday and Tuesday, so
(16:38):
I will miss radio for those obligations. And then we've
actually got to shoot, uh, well a shoot in the
state of California. If if god willing, Gavin Newsom will
allow us student due to COVID uh in those restrictions,
So God willing will then have a shoot We've got
to do for Wednesday. I don't know what exactly it's for,
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but yeah, then I'll hopefully be back on Friday, as
I'll be traveling on a red eye back I think
I'll miss a portion of the show traveling back for
a red eye, so I'll be able to work one
day next week. But basically next week it really starts
to get going for us. God, I'm so excited, man,
I am so excited for college football. And you know
what I do, like, here's the subtle little change that
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they've made in college football that that I really do appreciate.
It used to be back in the day where they
would they would refer to it as a week zero.
They would call it, Oh, it's week zero, and it
would be you know, they'd be probably like seven or
eight games. Usually, my Hawaii Rainbow Warriors were one of
the games that we're being played in this quote unquote
week zero. They're not doing that anymore. No, they're not
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doing it, and they're not calling it week zero. They're
calling it week one. All right, we are calling it
week one in the world of college football. And so
that August which is just a little over a month away,
that's Saturday. You gotta slate of games, all right. You
do have Nebraska Illinois, which is which is the game
that's going to be turned on Fox. You've got a
Hawaii at U C l A, you've got the San
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Jose States of the world. Eddie Garcia's Fresno State Bulldogs
are gonna be playing I I at least appreciate that
we're not dismissing that opening week because all the quote
unquote blue bloods aren't part of the process. At least
we're giving some love to to those other schools that
I think deserve it. So I think last year highlighted
that if ever before right, I mean, you had other conferences,
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you know, Nonpower five conferences playing early, and they kind
of stole the spotlight, like like like Liberty for example,
who had a phenomenal season, Coastal Carolina, like those teams
started to sweep up some of the accolades, some of
the exposure. And now you've got a quarterback in Malie
Willis who may be one of the best in college football,
who may have literally because of COVID and because they
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decided to play and the way he played, he might
be a first round pick. I'm telling you right now,
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vaccine talk in the National Football League? My god, man,
I am so by COVID vaccine, all of this, like
I am. But the fact of the matter is it's
part of the conversation because it's been made part of
the conversation over the weekend. You've got Bruce Arians. Uh
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and and the report that came out that players that
aren't vaccinated, who are seeing and not wearing a mask
inside facilities are gonna get find fourteen thousand dollars. Uh So,
Bruce Arians was very adamant right there on the spot,
they're getting find fourteen thousand dollars. All of that happening
as we have the discussion here about vaccines in the
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National Football League and sort of the outrage because it
feels like it's calmed down a little bit over the weekend.
But man, last week, for about a twenty four hour period,
it was a hot button issue. Well it's still a
hot button issue. Or even though I think one of
the reasons why it became such a big story last
week was teams were starting to report, and I think
teams and the media and obviously the NFL they wanted
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to get it out there, so a lot of these
players who are unvaccinated will make sure they understand the
repercussions for for not following the protocols. Now, a lot
of this what's in this year was in last year's
cb A when they decided to come back and play,
they they, you know, restructured the c b A to
include a lot of these these same measures that are
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being taken for player and staff safety they were in
there last year. It's just the difference was we didn't
have a vaccine last year than the season, so now
that that we do, and as they're trying to incentivize
players to get the vaccine, you know, they're pointing out like, hey,
you can be fined four teen thousand dollars if you're
not vaccinating, you're not wearing your mask, and you're not
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following the proper protocols. You know, they're now highlighting it
as a deterrent or as an incentive to go get
the vaccine, even though at this point in time, you know,
unless you get the Johnson Johnson you know, you you
you it's still gonna take some time before you could
actually be able to be open to the same benefits
as vaccinated players. But I digress. Here's the reason why
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there's such a push, all right, here's why there's such
a push, because there's gonna be people out there tell
you it's about money and all stuff. It's not about money.
It's not it's not about money, because if it was
about money. Okay, we went through last year's season with
COVID with no vaccines. Do we miss any games? Jonas,
I'm just trying to I'm trying to think of the
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back line. So there's how many how many double Monday
night Football, Wednesday? Tuesday Wednesday? I mean. So, so here's
the reality, folks. We're not missing games. This is this
is all propaganda, it's all it's all bs because the
NFL wants this to go away. They want COVID to
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go away. And the only way you can make it
go away is if you essentially put forth protocols or
measures that where if you have almost everyone vaccinated, Okay,
you're not testing as often. Don't tell anyone they're not
gonna test as often for the vaccinated players. Okay, what
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does that mean? Well, if you don't test as often.
It's not like guys are walking in going I don't know,
I think I got COVID today, I gotta test. Guys
for forever have walked in with cold's, with flues, and
they've still practiced, and they still played because they wanted to.
They love the game, or they know they're getting paid
and it's part of their their livelihood. And so forever
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players have played with the sniffles, sick, whatever the case
may be. But because of COVID, now where the of
the cases where or a sent thematic they didn't even
know they had it. We we now were in a
world where we were testing all the time, so of
course we were gonna get some positive tests for some
people who didn't even realize they had it. I mean
John rom Up six strokes for the example of the
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pgame who's vaccinated had it kicking everyone's butt and that
tour and then he has to go sit out the
final day. And so the truth of the matter is
the NFL they want as many players to be vaccinated
as possible, so they don't test as often, and if
they don't test as often, it's not a story because
they don't have to talk about a positive test. And
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then on top of that, if there is a positive test,
you know what you can do. If you're a vaccinated player,
you don't have to sit out. The contact tracing protocols
that are in place for a non vaccinated player are
drastically different than a vaccinated player. And so last year
one of the issues was not that we had a
ton of positive test The other issue was contact tracing,
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and so we had all these players who are sitting
around a guy who did test positive. Then they were
out too. And so that's the Those are the two
reasons why it's not about money again, it's about the
NFL wanting this to go away because last year, with
the testing protocols, every week goes a storyline. This year,
if everyone's vaccinated, it's not a storyline. Not many, not
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as many guys can be tested as often, not as
many positive tests in general. And then even if they are,
you're not gonna see this huge number of players having
to miss a game or having to move a game
because of contact tracy because the majority of them are vaccinated.
That's what this is about. That's what I hate about
this whole conversation is and even though we took the
time to talk about it. It's to educate people in
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the fact of what's actually taking place and why the
NFL is pushing for a vaccine so hard. There's obviously
other health and safety things too that benefited, but these
guys are at risk anyways, so so let let's be
real about what that's about. They want this whole COVID
news and storyline in the NFL to go away. Yeah,
and to your point on the you know, promp Baganda
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portion of this that that was my biggest takeaway when
everybody was freaking out last week and they were saying,
oh my god, they're they're gonna, They're gonna forfeit games.
Teams are gonna So basically, if you if you're not vaccinated,
you're gonna cost your team a super Bowl. You're gonna
cost your team, Like you're being dude. That is the
last ditch move for the NFL. They will go above
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and beyond to make sure they don't have to forfeit
games like it's a disaster. A year ago, we played
double Monday Night. Get like you remember the remember the
Patriots Chiefs game. It was played like two I remember
it was the two thirty in the afternoon, uh in
southern California out here, and they were playing Patriots Chiefs.
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Remember that was because Cam Newton got COVID and so
they rolled out Brian Hoyer and Jared Stidham and they
were playing that game. They played, uh Wednesday game Steelers
Washington was a win. The NFL is gonna figure out
a way to get these games in. They're not forfeiting games.
And when people were freaking out about it, I just said,
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hold on that that is last. They will go as
far as they possibly can. That's the last thing they
want to do. They're not gonna forfeit games. And and
and when you point out the number of players that
are getting vaccinated, you notice they're not telling you hundred.
You notice the big number everybody's throwing out. That's the
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threshold every team. Yes, so they're telling you, we understand
some guys are not gonna get vaccinated. It just is
what it is. Whether it's Cole Beasley, whether it's you know,
Jalen Ramsey, DeAndre Hopkins, whoever it is. And furthermore, I
don't care who's vaccinated and who's not vaccinated. It's not
my business. I couldn't care less. It doesn't matter whether
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you're a player and you've decided to get it or
Knox and I know it does you know it to
some people out there, But this is an individual choice,
and so we're not talking about it from that perspective.
We're talking about the reasoning, but high the NFL making
such a push as much as is about the safety
of the players, coaches and all involved. Let's be real
about this. Let's let's be real for a second. You
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have stadiums that are gonna be at full capacity and
there's no requirement for those individuals to be vaccinated. Do
they have to wear a mask? Sure social distance, No,
not if they're a full capacity. So let's not be
blinded by what the initiative is here. The NFL wants
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us to go away. They wanted to go away, and
the best chance they have of doing that is having
as many players vaccinated as possible, as many teams at
the eighty five percent threshold that jonas you mentioned a
few minutes ago, have as many players at that threshold
as possible, and then once you do that, then it's
not it's a non story. Contact tracing not a big
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as big of an issue. Positive test not as big
of an issue. You're playing ball, we're moving forward, and
we can forget about all of it, very much like
we did at times last year. It's just it was
the media that was obsessed with it and wanting to
make us into the scare tactic every single week that
there was gonna be a game canceled. Tell me this much, Jonas.
Is it safer to play right now in the NFL,
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given that we've got guys vaccinated and probably better treatments
for those who have chosen not to get vaccinated. Yes, yes, yes,
and yes yeah. It's look at the whole when when
when the stuff comes out, there's immediate panic, I think
a lot. And you know, whether DeAndre Hopkins who came
out and was like, you know, and they're making me
question and I think even he realized, all right, cool down,
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read the whole thing all the way through, and then
you realize, look, they're not telling you. The NFL isn't
telling you you have to get vaccinated. They're just saying
we're gonna make it difficult on guys that don't get vaccinated.
But the idea that they're going to cancel games, I
just thought was the biggest BS I just I don't
think it's happening. I would put I would be willing
to bet a large sum of money not one game
gets canceled in the NFL this season. A large sum
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of money on that. Is that a bet? Is that
a line? Can we go find that something? Yeah, I'm
sure we can. Absolutely, I would put everything I own
that there's not gonna be a game canceled, at least
not due to COVID. Now, you could have one canceled
due to especially you know, hurricane something like that, depending
on on on where that game is being played, But
as far as due to COVID, not one game will
be canceled. Yeah, and I'm sure they'll blame COVID for
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on Fox Sports Radio. So um lost in the Tim
Tebow Trevor Lawrence discussion in Jacksonville where Trevor Lawrence is
now the face of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Urban Meyer also
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part of that discussion, your former co host on Big
newon Kickoff. Who's now the head coach there. You've also
got Tim Tebow trying to make the roster is a
tight end. Lost in all of that is maybe our
favorite story of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that is one
none other than Gardner Minshew, who is still on the roster,
still there at quarterback, and he was on with Chris
(31:16):
Long the podcast in which you know Chris Long has
the green Light Podcast, and um, Gardner Minshew had the
following money quote and I'm calling it the quote of
the year. Thus far uh in preparation for the quarterback competition,
I haven't taken an s in weeks. Number two isn't
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an option for me. So that is a commitment to
your craft, Brady Quinn. That is fully committed. He hasn't
apparently taken a dump in weeks because number two is
not on the venue that absolute. I love Gardner. I
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mean he's got some Alzheimer's um and it's and here's
the thing, like, in all seriousness about his chance of
making the roster, they need him. He's got NFL experience,
as you know, as a starter. If Trevor Lawrence gets hurt,
if there is any other issue where Lawrence can play,
you can bring Minshew in. I think with the way
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they've continued to build the roster now Urban Meyers taken over,
he'd do a good job Um, he's not gonna be
the caliber of quarterback that Trevor is, but he's a
better option. And look, he's a better option than Tibow. Okay,
because here's what happens if you try to to go
the whole route of well, let's trade Minshew. We don't
want him to be a backup. You know, we'll get
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some value back form. Let's have Tubo will be the
backup an emergency situations. Look, the entire offset offense changes. Okay,
he can't throw the football anywhere close to Lawrence or Gardner, Minshew.
The whole idea that he was brought on to be
a tight end that goes to the wayside. And so
the whole, the whole reason of why is there falls apart,
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and it looks like it looks like this effort where
Urbans trying to get him there to have him start
and play games. So the truth of the batter is,
I don't see that being how this plays out. I
think they know they need someone behind Lawrence that has
some starting experience. He's beloved in the locker room for
these kind of quotes and different shenanigans. The kid works
his tail off. I hope they don't try to trade him,
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and especially not if it's just all about a jersey
number just so Tebow can have number fifteen. I didn't
think about that. Oh gosh, if that happens, like that's
when you know, like it's it's it was all for
not like what this was really about. And I'm still
not so sure that we don't know that about the
Tebow signing. Um. Look, I I was watching a it
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was a game from last year. I think, yeah, last year.
I forget which game it was, but there was a
game that was being we he was phenomenal. He was
phenomenal week one. Yeah, and you watch some of minh
whose games. Dude, there's a spot for him in this league. Like,
there's absolutely a spot for Gardner Minshew in the league.
I actually I thought he played and let's call it
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what it is, he outplayed Nick Foles. After Nick Foles
got that contract, nick Foles got hurt, and Gardner Minshew
was thrown into the starting lineup in that game the
opener again, I think it was against the Chiefs. I
think Kansas City, Yes, And he was thrown thrown in
as a rookie, and the guy played well and and
it was almost like they were looking for a reason
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to get Nick Foles back in, because you remember, Minshew
had that game in London where he didn't play all
that well and he threw the late pick and all
of a sudden, Folds was put back in. But they
ended up going back to Minshew later on because he
was the best quarterback on the roster. So this this
idea that well, you know, yeah, it's Gardner Minshew, and
I think some people sort of scoff at it. Dude,
he's had really good performances in the NFL. No, he's
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capable of if he was in a better situation than
what he was kind of birthed into in the NFL.
You know, his career had probably a different point. But
if you look at his rookie season stats and what
he did at that time with that roster, it was
it was pretty it was pretty significant. I mean you
could almost made a case where if they were a
team that was at a winning record, you might look
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at it more seriously as maybe a Rookie of the
Year candidate, But because of their team record, because of
how that all worked out, it wasn't gonna it wasn't
gonna work that way. The truth of the matter is,
and I got to call some games towards the end
of that year. You know that that team needed his
skill set because he can move around a little bit better,
and he kind of provided a spark to them, you know,
even though they struggled, he still you know, provided more
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than Nick Foles than at that time. But you know, now, look,
this is Trevor Lawrence's team. It's just it's more about
what they would have if he gets hurt. And it's
not like Trevor Lawrence has been hurt before. They should
think about keeping a guy like him, with his experience
and a guy that could come in with a hot hand,
that kind of has that that kind of attitude. Like
this guy, he's willing to go without having a bowel
(35:56):
movement for weeks because number two is not an option.
You're telling of me, you don't want that guy on
your team. That's a great point. He could join our
show anytime if he wants to come all be a
part of this. I would I would gladly accept the
guy that's willing to forego one of your most basic,
you know, human aspects of your life. Okay, yeah, yeah,
(36:17):
let me tell you something like you you can't go
you know, three commercial branks without you know, sitting down
and reading read I got a fast with Tapolis and
speaking of after you ate all that ice cream, you know,
you're having all sorts of issues. I mean, I don't
want to, you know, peel back the curtains too much.
Yeah again, not too much here, but you're having all
sorts of issues in that department. Yeah. Let me, I'm
(36:38):
doing in the show from the bathroom right now. I'm
looking at the plunger like so I'm staring right now
on a plunge. I actually heard. I heard Little Bertie
told me that you wanted to make the declaration on
Live here to Scott Shapiro that you're not gonna go
number two until you get this show full time. That's
what I heard. Yeah, well, let me tell you something.
If we were planning on getting the show full time,
this segment just pretty much ended. Move right along, it's
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