July 27, 2021 • 57 mins
Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn get your Tuesday started with the very latest on Aaron Rodgers and what seems to be an end to the offseason saga. The fellas predict that this final season with the Packers will not end well. Brady's Olympian wife, Alicia Sacramone-Quinn joins the show to talk Women's Gymnastics! Do the judges have it out for Team USA? There is Breaking News regarding Simone Biles, leading Jonas to call his bookie. Plus, Petros of AM 570 LA Sports is in the house for his usual Tuesday shenanigans, including the greatest description of all-time for any group gathering event!
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And we will do so with the man himself, the one,
the only, Brady Quinn. So the Packers and Aaron Rodgers
there are trying to orchestrate a controlled breakup. That's what
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this is, all right. And look, as we've said all along,
you and I thought he would be back, he is
coming back. And we tried to explain to people it
wasn't so much about money. It was more about Mark Murphy,
how he's handled things and with how they're structuring this contract,
Aaron Rodgers is going to get the opportunity if he
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wants to after the season move on, and I can
assure you he will want to move on. He will
have the freedom to go and choose wherever he wants
to go. That's how they're structuring this contract. I've just
got one thing to say about it is this is
not gonna go well. All right, It never does okay,
and it never works out the way you think. I'm
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just saying, how many people do you know who've either
who've been in a relationship and they go, yeah, you
know what, it's not gonna work out. He's going off
to college or he's gonna take this job here coming
up in about six months. But we're just gonna let
things kind of burn out on their own. It never
works out well. Like again, try and trying to have
like a controlled landing during a hurricane. It's not gonna
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work out. At some point. There's gonna be a beef
this season. There's gonna be frustrate this season because there
is not a marriage on the other side of of
this of this year. It's all in for one year.
And that's great in all and it makes for a
great drama, but it's a it's a controlled breakup, and
those never work out well. Yeah. And so when the
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news comes out yesterday, and it was Adam Schefter who
was one of the first to report on it, um,
you know, just the details and and this felt like
Rogers just wanted to be able to dictate terms on
the at the end of his career, right. I mean,
it felt a little bit like Brady. It felt a
little bit like, man, just give me the opportunity to
get the hell out of here if I can. You
know what I think it is. I think when you
look at what happened with green Bay and Brett Farve,
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Aaron watched that, and then I'm sure even Brett gave
him some advice and said, whatever you do, just control
how that final chapter of your career ends. And and
in this case, I think he was very cognizant of that,
but hadn't thought about that until they drafted Jordan's Love.
And then at that, when they didn't tell him, gave
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him no forewarning, it hit him like a brick and
he started thinking to himself, Wow, my my days here
and number I thought I would be able to, based
on what I've done, choose when I want to retire,
or choose when I want to move on, or at
least be be warned or forewarned that they were going
to draft someone to eventually start thinking about life after me.
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But I feel young enough and good enough, right, now
that's not going to be the case. So I think
that draft pick, that decision by the Packers organization is
obviously what started all this. If that never happened, we're
not having this conversation right now, Like I think that's
pretty easy to say. But because of that draft pick,
because of how they did it, the wheels have been
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churning in his mind for a long time because he
never had to think about when the end in Green
Bay was going to come. He does now, and that's
why this has become so important to him, and he
exercised it really this past offseason because he's coming off
an m v P season and I think we all
expect to at some point they have to move on
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because that that clock it's only ticking for Aaron Rodgers,
it's also taking for Jordan's love and to see what
exactly he is as your first round pick that you
traded up to get. Yeah. I just when I saw
the video that came out late last night or early
this morning in which there was a you know, a
jet arriving or a private plane, I didn't know is
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that a private plane the the one that landed in
Green Bay that that swept him away? And like an suv.
It just like all of it had the similar And
you mentioned Brett Farve, it felt like the bread farm
situation because you remember when Brett Farve retired and then
came back, and then he was he was getting retired
and then back and then he retired and then he
and he came back. Yeah, and then you know he
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didn't put his phone away one night. And but again,
we're not here. I'm not even into getting into all
that stuff here. I'm not here. That wasn't That wasn't him.
I mean, those were definitely that was just watching. Those
are his crocs, but that was not definitely No, definitely not. Yeah,
that is not to not had nothing to do with
it whatsoever. But this just feels like, yeah, this is
going to be a topic of conversation all year long.
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I think there's probably gonna be people that are worn
out by it. It's basically a long farewell tour. It's
his version of a long fall farewell tour. And they
can try and you know, mess around with the language
and some of the details in which you know they're
they're gonna reassess things towards the end of after this season.
They'll go ahead, and there's an opportunity to reassess. My
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favorite part of the um, the part that Adam Schefter
put out the details and the bullet points of things
that they worked on. The concessions if you will, that
the Green Bay Packers had made was the last one
in which they said, Uh, mechanisms will be put in
place to address Rogers issues with the team. Uh yeah,
they'll put those in place for about a year and
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then they'll say, yeah, we didn't get around to those,
but here you go, we're gonna send you to Denver
like this, this is exactly how this is gonna go. Uh,
this is over. This is gonna be his final year.
I think you've been pretty strong and adamant about all
that that it makes more sense to move on from
him after this year. But seeing some of the details
that came out, I think it's all or not. He's
going to be gone a year from now. We're talking
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about Aaron Rodgers on a different team. Yeah. Essentially, what
they're doing is they're voting that the year or years
after this year, and and all that does. It helps
out the cap structure, It helps out any team that
would want to then trade for him. He can orchestrate,
you know, the type of contract that he wants moving forward.
We we did hear that, you know, hey, there was
a contract thrown his way um or maybe that he
was looking forward that would have made him the highest
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paid professional athlete outside of the line mess and he
turned it down. Whether that came from I don't care
if it came from the team or him. In the end,
it didn't matter that it wasn't what this was about.
This was always about as we kind of talked about
his disgruntlement with Mark Murphy with how they did him
wrong with Jordan's love. That's where it started. And as
things continue to build, which which I'm not sure if
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you followed any of the tea leaves from their shareholders,
meaning but man, they couldn't have been any more compliment,
nnery and over the top, and and now and now
you're starting to hear that the Anthony Miller trade, the
Bears trading Anthony Miller wide receiver. I believe we're drying
from Memphis right down to the Houston Texans. That was
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part of a series of moves that they're trying to
do to help appease Aaron Rodgers that they're looking at
bringing Randall cob back his old veteran wide receivers on
the roster UH to help pair with him and Davante
Adams for his final year with the Green Bay Packers,
which I mean it would be interesting, even though I
do think they've got a kid who's probably younger and
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can do the exact same thing in Mari Rogers. But
but I digress. If that actually happens, I think all
the framework is in place, like all the all the
things that he was hoping to get accomplished in his
final year there, or at least happening right Like they
made a roster move on his behalf, they're voting out
the final year. They're going to give him more freedom.
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It wasn't about money, it was about having power. And
I think if all those things start to become accomplished,
then he I think he's checking the box of okay,
like this is it. This is my last year here,
this is how I wanted to go. I can at
least now move on in peace with the Green Bay
Packers after this. And that's something that, by the way,
Brett Farve didn't have. He didn't have for a long time,
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and that's why he went to the Minnesota Vikings to
really finish his career because he wanted to go to
against against the Packers twice year obviously a division rival. Alright,
So so then if the rumors are true, and I
think it was a Trey Wingo who had that that
the Packers are looking to add or bring back Randall Cobb. Um,
so is Jordy Nelson next? And then and then when
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when do we get a j Hawk your brother in law?
When is he back for the Green Bay Packers? A
J A j might come out of retirement for for
a game. There's a chance that Donald Driver is going
to show up at some point this season. James Jones
as well. Greg Jennings might be a part of it.
He's one of our good friend at Fox Sports. So
there's a lot of guys who may be coming out
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for the for this. Um, you know, the last dance,
the last dance tour for Aaron Rodgers and the Green
Bay Packers. I mean, this is gonna be so much
fun to watch man this because look, it's gonna get
so annoying for so many people there. It's gonna be
so annoying for so many people there to have to
answer these questions all year long. It's gonna be glorious.
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Here's the only difficulty with it is the past two
years they've gotten to the NFC Championship Game. But if
they can't get to a super Bowl, like, if it
becomes pretty apparent they're not gonna make it. I mean,
it's gonna end bad man. They're they're gonna move on
and go their separate ways. And one of the greatest
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quarterback talents and in our lifetime at least, well, have
only won one Super Bowl during his time in Green Bay.
And then that narrative is gonna start to be written
and he's gonna go somewhere else super motivated to try
to prove that. You know, they messed up and they
boxed this whole thing throughout, you know, a good portion
of his career. And by the way, if you thought
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he was motivated last year to come out and prove
some people wrong, what the hell do you think this
year is gonna look? Look, this is gonna look like
him at at the highest level he's ever played at.
And if he comes out and and to your point,
if he comes out and say they go on and
they win a Super Bowl and just have an unbelievable season.
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I mean, how do you sell that to people that, yeah,
we're just gonna go ahead and we're gonna walk away
from this, you know what I mean? Like, like, when's
the last time a team's come out want a Super
Bowl quarterback? You know, potential m v P back to
back seasons, and they still decide, Yeah, we just can't
get over We're gonna stick with the original plan and
move on. I mean, like this, this whole thing is
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just gonna get more and more awkward as this thing
goes along, and the better he plays the worst. I
think it makes a situation, I really do. I mean,
I feel bad for Jordan's lave. I hope he's just
a fraction of what Aaron Rodgers is as as a quarterback,
or at least this team out around it. He's got
enough help where he doesn't have to be all world
when he first gets in. That was the pressure Aaron
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Rodgers took over following a Hall of famer. Now Jordan
loves gonna have to follow another Hall of Famer. I
mean it's they've been so lucky. They've been so lucky
for over what three decades, twenty five years? They've had
Hall of Fame quarterback play. It's been absolutely ridiculous. And
now they're they're gonna get the final year with Aaron Rodgers,
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which is it's great. Look. And by the way, if
you didn't take our advice earlier this summer when we
told you to take the over we told you to
take the over on the wind total for the Green
Bay Packers this season, if you had missed out because
they took it off the board after all the speculation
he was gonna retire, it wasn't gonna show up. You
missed out, I'm sorry if you didn't listen to us.
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We tried to explain to you. We were adamant about it.
It was the best time, best value you would find
for that over underwind total because of all speculation. And
so if you didn't take the risk, if you didn't
take that gamble, I'm sorry. We try to tell you,
We tried to tell you how this whole thing was
going to play out. Yeah, it's and look, and this
is what we try and do. We hand out winners
on this show. That's what we try and do. I mean,
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you know, it's why a lot of people tell me
is live that Jesus we're gonna show up again. I mean,
last time you showed up, I believe you threw us
a loser. But yeah, well I have no idea. Listen,
I mean, I am on right now. There's gonna be
odds on that right possibly. I am hearing reports we
are going to have a an Olympian on the show
in the first hour. That's why. Well, I mean, one
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of the biggest attractions in the Olympics is women's gymnastics,
and I happen to have a very solid inside source.
I was able to convince not to actually work the
Olympics as an analyst. I was able to convince her
and she's gonna come on and I kind of give
us a little behind the scenes, a little preview before
the women's gymnastics, which starts. I believe that sixty five
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Eastern is when it actually airs for the team finals, which,
mind you, the USA is not sitting number one right now.
They didn't have a great prelims. And by the way,
that's a three Pacific. Everybody works on Pacific time. They
don't work, that's right, that's right. But in the West coast, right,
I know that's part of your radio stick. I know
that's what you do. That is that? Is that? That
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that and't talking about ice cream, which apparently, um kind
of frustrated some of our our Twitter followers, so did Yeah,
technology is a real son of a b You know,
get ads right now? All I'm getting is pictures of
Chicken parm every Italian restaurants coming out of the law
zoo with promoted ads in my email box for Chicken parm.
That's all I get in my email account. For for
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some reason, all I get is the gift of the
Charger security guard. I don't know why it Just listen.
Everybody's phone is different. It works differently here in the morning.
So all right, it is out kicked the coverage here
on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady quin I'm Jonas Knocks.
Is is FSR coming up next? We do have another
development on one of the biggest stories in the NFL,
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and it doesn't seem like a good one. We'll have
that for you right here. Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks, I'll
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fs ARE we will have an Olympian on the show.
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All right, a silver medalist back in the day, so
many medals from world championships and beyond, but we will
have an actual Olympian on the show here coming up
in less than ten minutes from now. Used to be
the most until Simone came along. Yeah, Simone Biles. Yeah,
Simone Biles is the sheen. She's the greatest of all time, right, Yes,
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she is a men's or women's Uh, she is the greatest.
I mean I think she's got four separate I'm not
even sure what you call them, apparatus is or something
named after like like vaults everything. She she's impressive. Yeah,
I mean, look, every time I see a gymnast, I go,
how the hell do you do it? I don't understand
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how you do it. It's crazy. I was trying to
do some just body weight squats earlier this morning and
my right knee I sweart of got my right kneecap.
I thought it was going to explode like I I
had thought somebody had jumped down through the air conditioner
event and piped me on the back. Of my leg
like I have. And that's hard, right, like yeah, care
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again and wow, okay, yeah, like it is like and
and and my so now I've got swelling behind my
behind my kneecap. But it's not even the kneecap I
dislocated years ago, So I got that to worry about
your kneecap. I don't know, man, I work in radio
for a long time. I can't imagine there was that
many strenuous and injuries happen in radio. Right. Well, listen,
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you fall out of a chair, like you know, I
play you know, sports on the side. You don't know,
you don't really play the game. You don't get it.
I mean, you're not really much in the This is
news to me. I'm trying a little more about you, man.
I mean I thought it was maybe old age. Now
you're telling me you play other sports. Yeah, listen, you
know I I you know, do stuff on the side,
and years ago I had this injury. You've never really
dealt with an injury on the side. What other sports
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do you play? Man? I throw iron around? I mean
it was it was like, what do you want to
know iron around? You're working down when working now? I
was playing basketball when I heard it. But it was
a an accumulation of working out and not stretching, and
there was this thing called an I T band which
I was unaware and uh, and that just all of
a sudden gave way to the kneecap. But again, you're
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not much. You're not really into you know, physical fitness
and like working out and playing sports. You don't really
get it. You don't play the game, and you know,
I'm just I'm more shocked that you actually played basketball.
You did not strike me as the type that would
be able to dribble a basketball play basketball, that is,
and I don't mean that with any disrespect, just giving
your background. You were more into music. You guys had
a band. It was all that. I know, you're into
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working out all that, but I I kind of pictured you, like,
you know, wrestlers like can't play basketball. But you want
to see how unathletic a wrestler or like a boxer is,
go past them a basketball and ask them the dribble
and shoot a basketball. Yeah, well that is one of
the funniest things you ever see. Well it's like, you know,
you've ever seen Colbiba Normaga made off the UFC fighter
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him and the way they play basketball over in Russia
they punch each other. Yeah, they literally just it's like rugby.
There's no concept. There's no concept of hey, you can't
take more than two steps, like you know, there's no
It's just hey, I need to get to the basket,
and I don't care that you're in my way, and
I've I've got to pick the ball up and get there.
I've got to get there. So I mean, look again,
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no disrespect that you can kick both our asses. Always
saying not good basketball players, not good basketball play. But
again I'm from the US. That's not like we're we're
good at basketball right now either. If you're that's a
good point, Yeah, that is, that is very good point.
All right. The hell's going on with to Shaun Watson Brady?
Now we got what ten criminal complaint two more added
on to the twenty two that we're out there, and
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now we've got twenty four. You've got Rusty Harden his
lawyer coming out and speaking about, you know, potential trades.
It could be like, what is going on with DeShawn Watson?
Where are we at? I don't know. I honestly wish
the NFL would give us some more clarity on this
whole situation. We talked about yesterday how the Texans are
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in a really bad spot. I don't know how Deshaun
Watson is in a good spot either, though. I mean
that's kind of stating the obvious given the given a
situation off the field, but just talking from a football standpoint,
even if he is to get traded to and there's
been a number of teams that have been thrown out there, right,
I think Denver was one, Miami was one, Philly is
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the one we talked about yesterday. They probably have the
most draft capital and cap space to be able to
make something like that happen. So maybe Philly is a
potential target. But how has this helped DeShawn Watson too?
Like the longer he stays in with you austin a
team that he's not gonna play for this year, and
the harder it makes it for him to move on
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into a new offense and develop a rapport with everyone
he's throwing too, and harder for the Texas to move
on from it. Like I realized, they want to get
the best offer possible. But you also have to kind
of admit mistakes, Like if he was this unhappy back
before all the stuff came out that was happening off
the field, you should have just dealt him then you
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should have moved on then. So don't double down on
this and thinking you're gonna get the offer you want,
because what's being reported, as Chris Mortenson has said via Twitter,
they're looking for high five high draft picks now, highest
kind of relative talk, right, like, we we don't know
what exactly that number is, but we've had three first
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round picks and some Okay, Well, if three first round
picks is a part of it, I personally think two
first rounders to second rounds and a third rounder and
maybe an active player gets the job done. And it
sounds like a huge haul. But that's what this sort
of thing really encompasses when you look at the value
of what you're getting in a quarterback. He was a
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franchise quarterback and under contract for the long term, so
I don't think that's an overstatement of what he would warrant.
It's just if this thing doesn't happen soon, I don't
know how this is good for anyone, and I don't
know why the NFL won't provide anyone clarity, because they're
the one big question mark in this whole equation. It's
going to be in the next day or so, right,
(20:30):
the more that the conversation sparks up, the NFL has
got to make a move in the next day or so.
I would imagine how much longer can this go. I
don't know. I think there's too focused on like wrist
bands for players who are vaccine accent or whatever. Yeah,
that's that's a very fair We pushed through, We literally
bouldozed through a season without a vaccine, and now we're
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we're using that as the single, single most important thing
to talk about right now, not a guy who's got
twenty two separate allegations between civil and criminal suits. Yeah,
let's stop talking about that. Everyone. Look over here, Look
at the wristbands. Look at the wristbands, and the wristbands.
Don't don't look at this. Look at the wristbands. Yeah,
it's like it's like, you know, you want to get
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access to uh from club to club in Lake Havasu,
all you gotta have this wristband on like this. This
is where we're at. Just to make sure everybody's aware
of it. Yeah, this is this is what we got
going on. All right, He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox's
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can hang out with us is always on the I
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actual olympian who is going to be joining the show
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right now. This is one of the one of the
greatest achievements in the history of a morning show guest
booking here on fire. I don't know why you're laughing.
I worked really hard to put this together, like and
I Roberto, like every like. It was a three man
job in order to get this get this put together here. Uh.
She is the great Alicia Sacrimony, US Olympian silver medalist,
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a bunch of gold medals, world championships, you name it,
one of the living legends and US Gymnastics Alicia, Jonas
and Brady Quinn. Great to have you on with us
here this morning. Good morning, guys, long time no chat. Yeah,
it's been it's been a lot. It's been a while.
He wants to make it look like we're not married.
(22:20):
We're not affiliated at all there. That's why I dropped
your actual last name, just so he can take credit
from this booking Jesus, Like, why why didn't you just
tell everybody you know the tooth Fairies a drug addict.
While you're at it, Brady, we've got to reveal every
dark secret here on the show. Like what are we
talking about? I mean, look, I'm just saying that some
of us worked a little harder to make this happen today.
I'll just put it that way, Alicia. First, First things first,
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what when's the last time Brady asked you to cook
him chicken parm? Because we're tired of it. He's got
a problem. It's always chicken parm. It's gotta be chicken parm.
I have to have chicken parm. He won't stop talking
about it. How often in a month do you have
to slave over a stone in the kitchen to cook
him chicken parm? Because he snorts it the second it
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hits his plate. I literally made chicken parm on Saturday,
and we Roberto's recipe and you know it's usually once
a week recipe for a while, and then we had
kids and like, you know what, this takes forever, you're
gonna get it maybe once a month. I'm fine with that.
I mean, I I can deal with that. I can
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deal with that. So she puts up with me. That's
part of you know, there's your trade offs in every marriage.
This is part of it. But chicken parm was one
of the mustaffs, all right. That was that was that
was written in to everything before we got married, Alicia.
Um So again, I want to thank you for coming
on with us here on Fox Sports Radio now as
we get to the matter in hand here, because I
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know you guys want to play grab bass and shenanigans.
I'm here to do sirius sports talk. That's what I
like to do. So that being said, who should I
gamble on in the US Women's Olympics? Uh U S
team come up here shortly? I mean, is there anybody
I should put my money on and gamble on heavily
in order to make a little bit of cash here?
I mean I'm biased, obviously, but I believe TEA is
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going to come away with the gold even though they
didn't have a great performance in preliminaries, which really it matters,
and it doesn't because obviously it's getting your place into
the finals, but your scores don't carry over, so you're
starting from a clean slate today. For the competition, so
I think they will come out number one USA all
the way. There's more pressure on them now though, right
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going into finals, because there's a difference with the way
you compete in prelimbs versus the finals. So like today,
there's more pressure because they only have what three three
scores and three girls compete. That's correct. So in prelims,
four athletes compete and they count the top three scores,
so you can afford to have a mistake and you
just drop that. Today it's three athletes compete and all
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three of those scores have to count. So that makes
it a little bit more exciting, some would say be
because if Says has a lot of mistakes at the count,
then that opened the door for other countries like Russia
or China to kind of make their moves. Is simone
the greatest of all time, that's without question, Like she
is a freak of nature in the best way possible.
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And so like she said, how many things are named
after what are they called? By the way, Yeah, but
what are the what are the moves called? Like is
it is there a certain name for it? And the apparatus,
I mean they're legitimately called the Biles and whatever. It
sounds like a files Yeah, I was gonna say that.
(25:39):
It seems like a very painful Yeah that Alicia, what's
the most different? What's the most We were talking about injuries.
Brady's not much of an athletes. He doesn't get it.
So you and I can talk about this here. But
that's just just a couple of a couple of athletes
talking here. Alicia, what is the most significant injury you've
suffered during your gymnastics career. I tore my achilles. That
(26:02):
was probably my worst injury, and that was pretty painful. Um.
Your boy Brady though, actually helped me like get all
the way through that got me into surgery, took care
of me, had it bathed me at one point like
a little kid. So it was like, you know, it
was an experience. Oh, you guys have met before. I
didn't even know that. Ye. Sorry, you could tell them
the whole story. She actually touring World Championships in Japan,
(26:24):
so that was probably one of the more difficult calls
to receive. Uh, and then trying to orchestrate how you
get someone from Japan into surgery and Charlotte, North Carolina
as soon as possible. What was was always interesting. So
pain in the ass, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, with giant pain
in the ass. All right. So Alicia, with that being said,
(26:45):
so is there anything we need to keep an eye on?
Is there is there a certain indicators while watching, uh,
the the women's team that we may be concerned about.
Is there is there another team out there that could
be a potential threat? Is there? Like, what can you
tell us that maybe people aren't aware of or or
just sort of inside I don't want to say insider trading,
but just things to keep an eye on that you've
(27:07):
noticed that could be a potential issue for the U
S team. You know, I feel like there's a little
bit of favoritism with judging, I mean against the United States.
The other scores for other countries seemed a little bit high.
I think, be honest, they've got a red ass for us,
they've got a red ask for us. Come on everything
in their power to not let us win. But the
(27:29):
depth of us is really deep, so they're gonna actually
have a hard time doing that. So basically, you just
want the athletes to stay on the event and not
screw up too badly and then they show win. Okay,
explain this explain this to me, because here's the thing
that's Jonas is one of the type of people. He's
one of those types that likes to go onto Twitter
and live score like boxing matches or you have c
(27:51):
fights and so so. Because before you kicked me in
the nuts on the air about it, I sure did,
because you've rubbed off on me though during pre Limbs
when we were watching, because they're trying to get our
little girls to watch. We want them obviously, hey, you know,
following Min's footsteps, but you know they're still trying to
pay attention to things. But I started scoring, and I
started saying Alicia, like, all right, this is what I
(28:13):
think the score is going to be. And all that
explained it. To explain to people how they score, because
I think there's a misconception like Team US say they're following,
they're they're misstepping. I mean they were falling off of
apparatuses at points in time. Explain to me how they
come out with the scores they get. So there's two
panels of judges. One set of panel of the panel
(28:35):
is they just count the eight hardest skills the athlete
does and that is your start value. Then there's another
panel of judges that's more judges about five or six
judging how well you do the routine and act your execution,
and then you add those two scores together to get
the final thirteen plus whatever score you see on TV.
(28:56):
So it's a lot of um subjectivity and you have
judged from all over the world kind of coming together
to do this. But yes, it's like a real cluster
to get a score for gramatic. But if basically, if
you have a higher start value, you can mess up
a little bit and still beat your competition. Right. For sure,
(29:17):
you're rewarded to do more difficulty, but you also have
to do it well, but you also have some wiggle room. Okay,
So with that many cooks in the kitchen there, it
leads to Shenanigan's right. And has there been any discussion
because they look officiating in the NFL as as a problem,
whether boxing in the UFC people are complaining about it,
(29:38):
the NBA officiating has been awful at times. Has there
been any discussion about we gotta do something, We've got
to make some changes here because there's way too much
of this that's going on and some stuff that just
doesn't add up for a lot of people that watch
these events. No, I mean they brush a lot of
stuff under the rug and gramatics. So there's been like
situations where my coach was a judge for Mania back
(30:00):
in the day and there was like gift giving and
all stuff on behind the scenes, so it was like
a little sketchy. I've heard stories. What about the cardboard
beds they're sleeping on? Any thoughts on that? Is that
what you guys had to sleep on? Didn't you when
you're in did you guys have to sleep on cardboard beds? No,
there are normal beds. But it's not like cardboard beds
(30:21):
are an issue for Jim that's they're so small. But
I feel bad for any like basketba players are normal
sized people sleeping on that. Like, that's not going to
withstand um Alicia sacramone sacrimony Quinn. Rather, she is weird
with us on Fox Sports Radio. I didn't want to
refer to her as her married name because I want
you also had a hard time pronouncing your last name listen,
(30:41):
because because I've heard it two different ways, sacramony and sacrimony,
and then there's there's a right way to say, there's
a wrong way to sign, well, listen, tomato, tomato. I
don't know what you want for me. Here's the thing, Alicia, Um,
how drunk do people get in the Olympic village? Now?
I know things are different this year, but how bomb
do people get when they're in the Olympic village? Because
I've heard stories about that as well too. Well, it's
(31:04):
not necessarily in the village you're gonna see them highly intoxicated.
It's more like there's all these parties that go on
outside the village at like ten USA house. Each country
has their own house and they host these parties typically
in a normal Olympic games um, and it is a
rage fest. There's a lot of drinking, and there's a
lot of um breeding potentially going on. A lot of
(31:28):
super athletes are probably born post Olympics. Yeah, is it
more or less drinking than what the three of us
did at Ted's Montana Grill in Atlanta a couple of
years ago for the Super Bowl. It's definitely less, Okay,
I just wanted to make sure. Uh, she's awesome. Alicia
Sacrimony Quinn, the wife of Brady Quinn, US Olympian, great mom,
(31:54):
great person, a hell of a good time to hang
out with Alicia. We love you. Yeah, that too good
for We love you and hey, we'll talk soon. How
about that, guys, have a good show. She hates us.
That's there's a lot of a lot in the bank
there that I'm gonna come back out and figure out.
(32:16):
So well, I'll tell you what our four. I'll have
my wife pop on and then we'll have that discussion
here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, he's Brady Quinn.
I'm Jonas Knox's I'll kick the coverage here on FS
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People were handing out bad information in the NFL. We
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(32:37):
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(32:59):
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(33:20):
of next hour. We will get into a little hypothetical here.
Uh could we see a changing of the guard, a
power shift in the National Football League and it only
takes one move. We will get into that here top
of next hour here on Fox Sports Radio. But right
now we do want to turn it over to Eddie
Garcia for some breaking news in the world of sports.
(33:46):
Breaking news from Fox Sports. Yeah, I'm interested in what
Brady's wife might have to say about this news. But
some breaking news from the Olympics where American star gymnast
Simone Biles has withdrawn from the team just gymnastics competition.
She apparently was injured attempting a vault. Uh. She left
(34:06):
the competition area, returned a little bit later. Apparently her
foot is wrapped up, but she is out of the
team competition for the US. Uh in the team gymnastics competition.
And that's uh, that's our best gymnasts. So that's that's
not good news. Yeah, it's it's bad. Now I'm hearing Otherwise,
it's not necessarily an injury UM because she's still planning
on competing in the individual events that she qualified for
(34:30):
UM in prelims. So whatever the quote, if it's an
injury or not, my understanding is she's filling a lot
of pressure UM, which is which is a little bit
I'm not gonna say odd. I mean, look at the Olympics,
it's a huge event, but even more so for her,
even though she's accomplished so much, she's the most decorative,
she's the best ever UM that the tough thing is
(34:51):
it's her last one, and I think that's where she
kind of probably is feeling the pressure of the finality
of all this UM and so I you know, it
sounds like she didn't have a good warm up and
she was battling a lot of a lot of that mentally,
and so the landing on the vault definitely probably added
to it. But word is that exact landing she had
when she actually competed was the same way she was
(35:14):
landing that vault during warmups, and so there's something kind
of else set play here. Either way, it's a bad
sign for Team USA. Yeah. By the way, hey Eddie,
get a kick out of that. Uh Billy Blowhard over
there thinks he's got insiders like sources when it comes
to US Olympics gemnastics talking to some people over into Yeah, yeah,
sure you are sure, you are all right? So give me.
(35:37):
I hate to do this on the air. This, this
is rude. I hate to have to do this on
the air. So just give me one second. I hear
on Fox Sports Radio, can get on Russia. Sorry, what's
going on? What are we talking about here? I'm looking
Russ in the lead right now? I as as you
know what's funny about this. You know what's funny about
(35:58):
this is people will gamble against their favorite team. Okay,
they will. They will do that, gamble against their favorite team.
But when it comes to the Olympics, they will not
gamble against their country. Even though at this point, given
how good Simone Biles is, given how big of a
deal this is, it hurts team USA. I don't know
(36:18):
that many people are gonna bet against against the USA.
I don't think many people are gonna take Rush, even
though they again they were leading kind of coming into it.
Uh second, I think there are plus odds plus was
it fred something like that? Yeah, it was they were
significant underdogs the U. And look, your wife, Alicia came on.
If you missed that, you can check out the podcast
(36:40):
Brady's wife, Alicia Sacrimony. She's a silver medalist in the Olympics.
She knows your stuff, and she said, look, the US
should take take control of this thing and they should
be okay. But that was before this whole Simone Biles
story comes out. And and I guess on the NBC broadcast,
what are they saying. It's a mental issue, that there's
(37:00):
something going on, like psychological and you you mentioned that.
So now you probably are looking around if you did
have money on the US, Uh, you're probably scrambling going
all right, when's the first NFL preseason game? Like what
am I like? Now you're trying to figure out how
you're gonna get that money back. So, I mean, they're
they're talking a lot just about pre limbs and some
of her posts to social media afterwards talking about feeling
(37:22):
the weight of the world on her shoulders and and
I gotta be honestly, that was one of the things
I talked to my wife about, is how she she's
the advantage, like Simone Biles is so good, she's so
good at this sport. She's the difference maker where no
other country has a chance because she's that much better
than everyone else. Her start values are that much higher
than everyone else. And so not only is it obviously,
(37:45):
you know, for her and the rest of the field,
but it's also the way she's able to lift up
Team USA. Now she's got to take on a different role.
She's gotta become that leader. She's gonna become almost that
kind of coach, if you will, for these girls for
the rest of the way. But it's it's troubling because
if you got the Olympics, there's like certain sports we
expect to win. Women's gymnastics is is kind of one
(38:05):
that we've taken for granted because how good simone is.
Men's basketball is another one. They've obviously had their struggles.
It's it's been an interesting Olympics so far for Team USA. Yeah, man, listen,
uh look, but you know the good news is the
NFL is right around the corner, Brady Quinn. That's good news, alright.
So if you lost your ass betting on the US
UH gymnastics team, don't worry about it. The Hall of
(38:28):
Fame game, we got over under his win totals NFL.
Next this, this is out take the coverage right now.
Always kind enough to join us here every single Tuesday.
It is a Tuesday morning tradition here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Great Petros Papadak is a M five seventy l
(38:48):
A sports college football analysts. Petros, what the hell is
going on? How are you? What's up? Hello? Good morning everybody. Uh,
it's great to hear your voices. Uh. I have to say,
I'm really struggling this morning because I don't know if
I should just go to yoga and start my day
when this is over, or go back to sleep. I
(39:09):
kind of don't want to face the day. It's packed
twelve media day, and I don't want. Petro says, as
your personal trainer, a motivator, go go to yoga because
here's I just don't know if I'm gonna go now
or later, because I just I just want to go
back to bed. I don't want to face everybody at
(39:31):
pack twelve media day and I have to see everybody.
But go now. You know you're gonna feel better getting
it all said and done. You have a better attitude,
right with your drink and everything by the way are
any of the are any of the gutlass media member
is going to ask Clay Hilton about that bomb that
was in the facility this offseason or one. Oh no,
(39:51):
nobody's gonna ask anybody anything. It's gonna be a giant
mutual masturbation session and always here. That's what media day.
I mean, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what what
you're talking about. It could be a movie or a
conference or some kind of upcoming social program. I mean,
(40:13):
that's all all media day is is a is a
big you know, blankets um all in all serious this
I mean after we we talked what a week ago,
I mean, college football has changed so dramatically use of
oh you in Texas just in a week's time, Like
(40:34):
what is what is college football gonna look like in
your mind? With the news and everything that's gone on
since we last spoke two years from now? Like how
is this going to look to you? Yeah? I've said
this for a long time, not that I'm some kind
of oracle, because I think it was pretty clear, Like
the same way it was clear that Aaron Rodgers was
gonna play for the Packers and the players in the
(40:55):
NFL don't have any power. Is that we're gonna have
like three gigantic conferences or something like that, and the
n C Double A is going to facilitate it happening.
And everybody's gonna get in line because they're afraid of
losing the Power five or some machination of the Power five.
(41:19):
The halves of college football to develop their own entity,
to develop their own league where they can actually pay
players they should. I mean, this whole name image likeness
thing is the dumbest conversation. It's like half pads. You
know how players will just do anything for half pads.
(41:41):
Kyle choke his mother taff to death for half pads.
They seriously like, if you tell a football team that
thinks that they're going to be in full pad and
I'm getting to a point here, trust me. Uh, if
you tell a football team that, hey, you guys are
gonna be in half pads, like we're riding up on
(42:03):
the board while everybody's like anticipating, you know, being in
full pads, it will be like, I mean, a celebration,
Like I mean, it is like every It's like Christmas
and Easter and everything wrapped into one. Everybody just goes
crazy and for what they still hit hard in the
(42:24):
half bad but or God knows, Like if you want
guys to die and go to heaven, you tell them helmets,
you know, and guys just go nuts. I mean for
old lineman, it doesn't matter. The pas some degree protected. No,
they hate it. They hate getting all strapped in and
(42:45):
tucking their balls and and all that stuff. They hate it.
Trust me, baby doesn't know because no one's allowed to
hit him in practice. So he didn't I got that.
But for everybody else it is like it is like
the Red Sea opening and the slaves leaving Egypt when
(43:06):
they tell you half pads. So when that became a
bargaining chip in the NFL, when they're like, yeah, what
do we need? We need guaranteed money. You know, you
guys are making billions and billions of dollars. It's the
most lucrative sports league in the world. Uh, we're gonna
need We're gonna need guaranteed money. We're gonna need care
(43:27):
for the old crooked ass players from the sixties, seventies, eighties,
and nineties. We're gonna need this. And then all the
NFL comes back and says to the union is half
pads and they go, okay, done. I mean, there's the
football players are the dumbest in the Well, yeah there's there's. Yeah.
(43:50):
Name image likeness is the half pads of college football.
Uh well, half pads is the half pads of college football.
But but namage image likeness is the same. It's like, okay,
what who's making money? Well, the universities, Well what do
they do with it? Whatever they want? They make billions
upon billions upon the donations that they get from alumni
(44:11):
who are billionaires who don't know what to do with
their money and want to see it on the plane.
So what are we gonna do to get the players
some money? Because these guys are struggling in a lot
of situations and there's so much money being made it
just is hard to reconcile the guys between the lines
not getting a piece of it. And what do they say, Well,
(44:33):
we're gonna let Billy Bob's grain elevator down the street. Hey,
our quarterbacks to show up and sign autographs. That is
the half pads of college football. It is the dumbest thing,
like we are so stupid, and every the media, Oh
this guy got this, and this guy got that. That
(44:54):
this guy was always getting that it was under the table.
The problem is still that the universities, oh the players
at risk money and that is not solved. But they
gave us half pads, and the media takes it and
runs with it like Fox to Run. But I'm tired
of it. Brady, Well, first off, let me explain to
(45:16):
people what half pads are. You don't wear pants, you
got shoulder pads, helmet, you don't have your your football pants,
but you're supposed to stay off the ground, right and
no one hits harder than the ground. That's true, Um,
But that's it's just so people understand. That's what half
pads looks like. If you're envisioning a football player, just
imagine with shorts, shoulder pads, and a helmet. But um,
(45:39):
Petro's so, what does that mean for the for the
pactual because here's what I read. Hold on, hold on here,
here's what I've read. So, oh U Texas, at some
point they're gonna be in the SEC. Then we see
a report that the SEC is targeting O s U, Michigan,
Clemson and they're essentially trying to align and create this
super conference. They didn't mention any Patchwolf teams. Why is that, Well,
(46:05):
because USC is weak. Uh No, it's true. I mean
that's look, the US has destroyed their football brand for
the last decade. Uh, USC and Nebraska are looking at
the mirror right now and saying what the hell happened?
And the Nebraska situation is different, and every situation's unique.
(46:25):
But I mean we've talked about USC. They have a
head coach that's not allowed to hire or fire assistance
or call plays. And they run the athletic department from
the athletic direct They run the football program from the
athletic director's seat or the president seat of the university.
And you just can't do that and and have success,
(46:47):
not with this sport never. And it's a very bureaucratic really,
it's just sad kind of governmental way to run a
football program. That's not how football works. Football all is
a dictatorship. You know, football, I hate to say it.
Football needs Manuel Noriega, you know, UH to be the
head coach uh, not some not not not an administrator. Uh.
(47:12):
And you know it's not like USC just sucked last
year or something. You know, USC has been down for
over a decade. And that being the case, that that
that's that's the crown jewel on the West coast. Where's
the sec gonna travel? Seattle? I mean, l A is
the only destination in USC is the only thing that
(47:35):
raises eyebrows and other parts of the country not for me.
I love all the schools out here. It's part of
my football culture. But you can scream into the wind
all you want and no one else is gonna listen.
And we talk about it all the time. You know,
there's a reason it's super hard to win the Heisman
anywhere but USC on the West Coast unless you have
all Nikes money behind you. It's uh, it's a conundrum.
(48:00):
But it's not something that just happened overnight. USC has
destroyed their their brand. I mean, you can get forty
yard line twenty your seats up tickets to the coliseum
right now, they're available. Those have never been available ever
this time of year in the history of USC football.
(48:21):
They have destroyed their brand and in turn, they've destroyed
West Coast football. And so you so you think that
USC really is the lynchpin for the troubles out on
the entire West coast, well, not just California. Otherwise we've
been talking about the A C c A is the
worst conference in the world. Right, Where did they go?
(48:42):
Because I've heard you talk about this locally on AM
five seventy l A Sports Petros Papadegus by the way,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. But you you've
talked about this. Where they went in a direction as
far as hiring a coach? Is that where this all started? Where? Okay?
So what what? What? Where this all began when things
started to fall apart for that? He Carroll created an
(49:03):
environment that was not sustainable with whether he knew that
or not, and he created the n C double A
sanctions along with help from Reggie and but it was
his They couldn't control him. This is the opposite of
what they had with him. Pete Carroll had so much
success that no one could tell him what to do,
(49:24):
and if somebody tried, he would threaten to leave, which
he was always going to do anyway. He was always
interviewing with proteins every single summer, so I don't know
why that was such a shock. So he was always
going to leave, but he wouldn't be told what to
do while he was there, and he created an untenable environment.
I mean, I was there, trust me. And then because
(49:46):
of that, USC's response was to take a different kind
of control of the football program, which was disastrous. They
had a USC had a president who has now been disgraced,
who cared more about raising money than about breathing, and
everything was secondary to that. And USC has dozens of varying,
(50:10):
horrific controversies outside of the football program. You live in
l A. You know that. You read the l A Times. Uh.
To prove it, that guy's name was Max Nikias. He
hired his buddies Pat Hayden and then subsequently Lynn Swan
to be the athletic directors. They hired unstable Pete Carroll
(50:31):
minions at the time Steve Sarkisian and Lane Kiffen Uh
not in that order. Uh. And it now Hilton and
it goes from there. But now they're trying to delegate
things from the top, and you just need to hire
somebody like Matt Campbell and let him work. But they
(50:52):
won't do that because they're afraid of of a repeating
Pete Carroll problem. But I don't see how they're scared
of that. None of the people that were there when
Carol was there, there anymore. They all got fired because
of the Varsity Blues scandal. What what coaches could they
have had outside of Clay Helton? What would that They
could have had Herban Meyer? I mean, my god, Brady
sat next to him for two years. They could have
(51:14):
had him. He would have taken the ten million a year.
But they won't let people build a staff. They won't
let people hire and fire a staff. And it's like,
who who would take the USC job? I mean, the
guy at Wyoming wouldn't take the US coach Bowl, wouldn't
take the USC job unless you gave him full control.
Now you'd be an idiot not to and we say
(51:36):
this all the time, but why would you if you
were anybody uh at USC? To hire different assistance, you
have to hire like the Ryan Days of the world,
the Lincoln Riley's, you know, the guy the next big guy. Uh.
(51:56):
Clay Helton and his like see that as a threat.
They don't want a guy with who with any skill
because they're scared he's going to take their job. So
there's just a pyramid of weakness. And now Graham Harrold
runs a show. I mean Graham Harrold, who was at
North Texas you want to make him the head coach
and run the air Aid for the rest of your life.
(52:18):
Pets Rosa, I do want to ask it the more
reason we're not competing. I'm sorry, I do want to
ask you more. Back to kind of a bigger picture
with OU in Texas and that news. Is this good
for college football in your mind? Like kind of what's happening,
how the landscape is changing so fast? Well maybe it looks, however,
we get the more of the country involved, the better.
But again, I live in Los Angeles, and as much
(52:41):
as I love college football all around the country and
celebrate it wherever they put me to call a game,
I'm invested in Pac twelve football. I always have been.
And the reason USC needs to be great is for
the rest of the conference. Uh. It's okay if it's
super top heavy, because then the rest of the conference
at some point kind of raises to that level. But
(53:06):
with the Pac twelve. Look, the PAC twelve has two
major problems We've talked about forever. Their TV deal, which
was basically like just taking Clorox and drinking it. Well,
I mean, it blew out all their insights and uh,
(53:28):
and then and then the USC has been bad. You know,
you could have a crappy TV deal and USC Matt
Leonard and Reggie Bush were bigger stars in this town
than Kobe Bryant. They were. I mean, that happened. That
was a huge thing, and it came with some consequences.
But the point is it's it's a sleeping giant, just
(53:48):
like the u c l A fan base here and
this town was that kind of rose up when they
made the Final four this last year. And it's unfortunate
to see what's happened. And much like the conference on
the West host, with the current structure, I just don't
know how recoverable it is. It doesn't look recoverable at all.
I mean, yoga packed, twelve media days, you got a
(54:10):
hell of a Tuesday plan patrol and then don't forget
the three and a half hour radio show. That's all
that's true. Yeah, and you and Matt money Smith as
well too. I mean, this is gonna be a hell
of a good time, come on. Yeah, but you know,
at least you can have at least you know, you
can have a little bit of fun with it, and
and event when you leave there and go on the air,
you know there's some people who just have to cover
(54:31):
it and they have to play grab bass and and
suck up to people in the pack twelve. And you
don't play that game, which is why we like having
well suck up. Yeah, but when I see Wilcox and
I'm like, oh, I love the way you coach that
secondary coach, you're gonna you're gonna suck your balls and
you're gonna go in there. I stayed for a very
(54:55):
short about it. It's first and then it's depressing. It's
like the worst corner on Earth. It's like they might
as well have it on the seventh Circle of Hell.
It's on Hollywood and Highland with like the Spider Man
with the outfit that doesn't fit that, you know, the
methout Superman that they're danning a dumpster, you know, taking
pictures with people, a giant Pikachu. Everybody's on drugs. Yeah,
(55:19):
I mean Petros. I assume you've you've been to other
ones to like the only criticism I've had because I
think the patrol of Media Day dinner they do is fantastic.
I wasn't able to make it this year, but in
years past that that's that's a great event. This year
either well, yeah, I wonder why I'm still waiting for that,
for that invite the mail um. But but compared to
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every other media day, it's just it feels different. Man.
It just doesn't feel like everyone's is excited about it.
You go to the Big twelve, you go to the
Big Yes, march gonna go that far. But it just
has this feel like they like they feel like they're
obligated to do it, and so they put it on.
(56:00):
It's not something that everyone's excited about. I just remember
being in a Big twelve media day Dallas and Bob
Stoops walked in with his Mary Kay President wife on
his arm, and it might as well have been the
King and Queen of England. Everybody just took a knee.
(56:20):
It was just like the most powerful couple in the Midwest.
Oh man, get him on Twitter at the old p
Petro's enjoy it while you can, uh and we will
will do it again next week. Thanks. I don't know
what to do. Do we have the drop from the
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beginning of of how he described the patrol of media day, Yeah,
I mean, you know, we we've we've got it there.
It'll it'll get us fired. That'll be that'll be the
movie we do, all right, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks is.
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming
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And we will do so with the man himself, the one,
the only, Brady Quinn. So the Packers and Aaron Rodgers
there are trying to orchestrate a controlled breakup. That's what
(00:47):
this is, all right. And look, as we've said all along,
you and I thought he would be back, he is
coming back. And we tried to explain to people it
wasn't so much about money. It was more about Mark Murphy,
how he's handled things and with how they're structuring this contract,
Aaron Rodgers is going to get the opportunity if he
(01:08):
wants to after the season move on, and I can
assure you he will want to move on. He will
have the freedom to go and choose wherever he wants
to go. That's how they're structuring this contract. I've just
got one thing to say about it is this is
not gonna go well. All right, It never does okay,
and it never works out the way you think. I'm
(01:31):
just saying, how many people do you know who've either
who've been in a relationship and they go, yeah, you
know what, it's not gonna work out. He's going off
to college or he's gonna take this job here coming
up in about six months. But we're just gonna let
things kind of burn out on their own. It never
works out well. Like again, try and trying to have
like a controlled landing during a hurricane. It's not gonna
(01:55):
work out. At some point. There's gonna be a beef
this season. There's gonna be frustrate this season because there
is not a marriage on the other side of of
this of this year. It's all in for one year.
And that's great in all and it makes for a
great drama, but it's a it's a controlled breakup, and
those never work out well. Yeah. And so when the
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news comes out yesterday, and it was Adam Schefter who
was one of the first to report on it, um,
you know, just the details and and this felt like
Rogers just wanted to be able to dictate terms on
the at the end of his career, right. I mean,
it felt a little bit like Brady. It felt a
little bit like, man, just give me the opportunity to
get the hell out of here if I can. You
know what I think it is. I think when you
look at what happened with green Bay and Brett Farve,
(02:41):
Aaron watched that, and then I'm sure even Brett gave
him some advice and said, whatever you do, just control
how that final chapter of your career ends. And and
in this case, I think he was very cognizant of that,
but hadn't thought about that until they drafted Jordan's Love.
And then at that, when they didn't tell him, gave
(03:01):
him no forewarning, it hit him like a brick and
he started thinking to himself, Wow, my my days here
and number I thought I would be able to, based
on what I've done, choose when I want to retire,
or choose when I want to move on, or at
least be be warned or forewarned that they were going
to draft someone to eventually start thinking about life after me.
(03:23):
But I feel young enough and good enough, right, now
that's not going to be the case. So I think
that draft pick, that decision by the Packers organization is
obviously what started all this. If that never happened, we're
not having this conversation right now, Like I think that's
pretty easy to say. But because of that draft pick,
because of how they did it, the wheels have been
(03:45):
churning in his mind for a long time because he
never had to think about when the end in Green
Bay was going to come. He does now, and that's
why this has become so important to him, and he
exercised it really this past offseason because he's coming off
an m v P season and I think we all
expect to at some point they have to move on
(04:05):
because that that clock it's only ticking for Aaron Rodgers,
it's also taking for Jordan's love and to see what
exactly he is as your first round pick that you
traded up to get. Yeah. I just when I saw
the video that came out late last night or early
this morning in which there was a you know, a
jet arriving or a private plane, I didn't know is
(04:26):
that a private plane the the one that landed in
Green Bay that that swept him away? And like an suv.
It just like all of it had the similar And
you mentioned Brett Farve, it felt like the bread farm
situation because you remember when Brett Farve retired and then
came back, and then he was he was getting retired
and then back and then he retired and then he
and he came back. Yeah, and then you know he
(04:47):
didn't put his phone away one night. And but again,
we're not here. I'm not even into getting into all
that stuff here. I'm not here. That wasn't That wasn't him.
I mean, those were definitely that was just watching. Those
are his crocs, but that was not definitely No, definitely not. Yeah,
that is not to not had nothing to do with
it whatsoever. But this just feels like, yeah, this is
going to be a topic of conversation all year long.
(05:07):
I think there's probably gonna be people that are worn
out by it. It's basically a long farewell tour. It's
his version of a long fall farewell tour. And they
can try and you know, mess around with the language
and some of the details in which you know they're
they're gonna reassess things towards the end of after this season.
They'll go ahead, and there's an opportunity to reassess. My
(05:27):
favorite part of the um, the part that Adam Schefter
put out the details and the bullet points of things
that they worked on. The concessions if you will, that
the Green Bay Packers had made was the last one
in which they said, Uh, mechanisms will be put in
place to address Rogers issues with the team. Uh yeah,
they'll put those in place for about a year and
(05:48):
then they'll say, yeah, we didn't get around to those,
but here you go, we're gonna send you to Denver
like this, this is exactly how this is gonna go. Uh,
this is over. This is gonna be his final year.
I think you've been pretty strong and adamant about all
that that it makes more sense to move on from
him after this year. But seeing some of the details
that came out, I think it's all or not. He's
going to be gone a year from now. We're talking
(06:09):
about Aaron Rodgers on a different team. Yeah. Essentially, what
they're doing is they're voting that the year or years
after this year, and and all that does. It helps
out the cap structure, It helps out any team that
would want to then trade for him. He can orchestrate,
you know, the type of contract that he wants moving forward.
We we did hear that, you know, hey, there was
a contract thrown his way um or maybe that he
was looking forward that would have made him the highest
(06:30):
paid professional athlete outside of the line mess and he
turned it down. Whether that came from I don't care
if it came from the team or him. In the end,
it didn't matter that it wasn't what this was about.
This was always about as we kind of talked about
his disgruntlement with Mark Murphy with how they did him
wrong with Jordan's love. That's where it started. And as
things continue to build, which which I'm not sure if
(06:52):
you followed any of the tea leaves from their shareholders,
meaning but man, they couldn't have been any more compliment,
nnery and over the top, and and now and now
you're starting to hear that the Anthony Miller trade, the
Bears trading Anthony Miller wide receiver. I believe we're drying
from Memphis right down to the Houston Texans. That was
(07:16):
part of a series of moves that they're trying to
do to help appease Aaron Rodgers that they're looking at
bringing Randall cob back his old veteran wide receivers on
the roster UH to help pair with him and Davante
Adams for his final year with the Green Bay Packers,
which I mean it would be interesting, even though I
do think they've got a kid who's probably younger and
(07:38):
can do the exact same thing in Mari Rogers. But
but I digress. If that actually happens, I think all
the framework is in place, like all the all the
things that he was hoping to get accomplished in his
final year there, or at least happening right Like they
made a roster move on his behalf, they're voting out
the final year. They're going to give him more freedom.
(07:58):
It wasn't about money, it was about having power. And
I think if all those things start to become accomplished,
then he I think he's checking the box of okay,
like this is it. This is my last year here,
this is how I wanted to go. I can at
least now move on in peace with the Green Bay
Packers after this. And that's something that, by the way,
Brett Farve didn't have. He didn't have for a long time,
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and that's why he went to the Minnesota Vikings to
really finish his career because he wanted to go to
against against the Packers twice year obviously a division rival. Alright,
So so then if the rumors are true, and I
think it was a Trey Wingo who had that that
the Packers are looking to add or bring back Randall Cobb. Um,
so is Jordy Nelson next? And then and then when
(08:42):
when do we get a j Hawk your brother in law?
When is he back for the Green Bay Packers? A
J A j might come out of retirement for for
a game. There's a chance that Donald Driver is going
to show up at some point this season. James Jones
as well. Greg Jennings might be a part of it.
He's one of our good friend at Fox Sports. So
there's a lot of guys who may be coming out
(09:04):
for the for this. Um, you know, the last dance,
the last dance tour for Aaron Rodgers and the Green
Bay Packers. I mean, this is gonna be so much
fun to watch man this because look, it's gonna get
so annoying for so many people there. It's gonna be
so annoying for so many people there to have to
answer these questions all year long. It's gonna be glorious.
(09:25):
Here's the only difficulty with it is the past two
years they've gotten to the NFC Championship Game. But if
they can't get to a super Bowl, like, if it
becomes pretty apparent they're not gonna make it. I mean,
it's gonna end bad man. They're they're gonna move on
and go their separate ways. And one of the greatest
(09:46):
quarterback talents and in our lifetime at least, well, have
only won one Super Bowl during his time in Green Bay.
And then that narrative is gonna start to be written
and he's gonna go somewhere else super motivated to try
to prove that. You know, they messed up and they
boxed this whole thing throughout, you know, a good portion
of his career. And by the way, if you thought
(10:07):
he was motivated last year to come out and prove
some people wrong, what the hell do you think this
year is gonna look? Look, this is gonna look like
him at at the highest level he's ever played at.
And if he comes out and and to your point,
if he comes out and say they go on and
they win a Super Bowl and just have an unbelievable season.
(10:27):
I mean, how do you sell that to people that, yeah,
we're just gonna go ahead and we're gonna walk away
from this, you know what I mean? Like, like, when's
the last time a team's come out want a Super
Bowl quarterback? You know, potential m v P back to
back seasons, and they still decide, Yeah, we just can't
get over We're gonna stick with the original plan and
move on. I mean, like this, this whole thing is
(10:49):
just gonna get more and more awkward as this thing
goes along, and the better he plays the worst. I
think it makes a situation, I really do. I mean,
I feel bad for Jordan's lave. I hope he's just
a fraction of what Aaron Rodgers is as as a quarterback,
or at least this team out around it. He's got
enough help where he doesn't have to be all world
when he first gets in. That was the pressure Aaron
(11:09):
Rodgers took over following a Hall of famer. Now Jordan
loves gonna have to follow another Hall of Famer. I
mean it's they've been so lucky. They've been so lucky
for over what three decades, twenty five years? They've had
Hall of Fame quarterback play. It's been absolutely ridiculous. And
now they're they're gonna get the final year with Aaron Rodgers,
(11:30):
which is it's great. Look. And by the way, if
you didn't take our advice earlier this summer when we
told you to take the over we told you to
take the over on the wind total for the Green
Bay Packers this season, if you had missed out because
they took it off the board after all the speculation
he was gonna retire, it wasn't gonna show up. You
missed out, I'm sorry if you didn't listen to us.
(11:51):
We tried to explain to you. We were adamant about it.
It was the best time, best value you would find
for that over underwind total because of all speculation. And
so if you didn't take the risk, if you didn't
take that gamble, I'm sorry. We try to tell you,
We tried to tell you how this whole thing was
going to play out. Yeah, it's and look, and this
is what we try and do. We hand out winners
on this show. That's what we try and do. I mean,
(12:13):
you know, it's why a lot of people tell me
is live that Jesus we're gonna show up again. I mean,
last time you showed up, I believe you threw us
a loser. But yeah, well I have no idea. Listen,
I mean, I am on right now. There's gonna be
odds on that right possibly. I am hearing reports we
are going to have a an Olympian on the show
in the first hour. That's why. Well, I mean, one
(12:34):
of the biggest attractions in the Olympics is women's gymnastics,
and I happen to have a very solid inside source.
I was able to convince not to actually work the
Olympics as an analyst. I was able to convince her
and she's gonna come on and I kind of give
us a little behind the scenes, a little preview before
the women's gymnastics, which starts. I believe that sixty five
(12:58):
Eastern is when it actually airs for the team finals, which,
mind you, the USA is not sitting number one right now.
They didn't have a great prelims. And by the way,
that's a three Pacific. Everybody works on Pacific time. They
don't work, that's right, that's right. But in the West coast, right,
I know that's part of your radio stick. I know
that's what you do. That is that? Is that? That
(13:18):
that and't talking about ice cream, which apparently, um kind
of frustrated some of our our Twitter followers, so did Yeah,
technology is a real son of a b You know,
get ads right now? All I'm getting is pictures of
Chicken parm every Italian restaurants coming out of the law
zoo with promoted ads in my email box for Chicken parm.
That's all I get in my email account. For for
(13:40):
some reason, all I get is the gift of the
Charger security guard. I don't know why it Just listen.
Everybody's phone is different. It works differently here in the morning.
So all right, it is out kicked the coverage here
on Fox Sports Radio. He's Brady quin I'm Jonas Knocks.
Is is FSR coming up next? We do have another
development on one of the biggest stories in the NFL,
(14:01):
and it doesn't seem like a good one. We'll have
that for you right here. Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks, I'll
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fs ARE we will have an Olympian on the show.
(14:25):
All right, a silver medalist back in the day, so
many medals from world championships and beyond, but we will
have an actual Olympian on the show here coming up
in less than ten minutes from now. Used to be
the most until Simone came along. Yeah, Simone Biles. Yeah,
Simone Biles is the sheen. She's the greatest of all time, right, Yes,
(14:48):
she is a men's or women's Uh, she is the greatest.
I mean I think she's got four separate I'm not
even sure what you call them, apparatus is or something
named after like like vaults everything. She she's impressive. Yeah,
I mean, look, every time I see a gymnast, I go,
how the hell do you do it? I don't understand
(15:09):
how you do it. It's crazy. I was trying to
do some just body weight squats earlier this morning and
my right knee I sweart of got my right kneecap.
I thought it was going to explode like I I
had thought somebody had jumped down through the air conditioner
event and piped me on the back. Of my leg
like I have. And that's hard, right, like yeah, care
(15:32):
again and wow, okay, yeah, like it is like and
and and my so now I've got swelling behind my
behind my kneecap. But it's not even the kneecap I
dislocated years ago, So I got that to worry about
your kneecap. I don't know, man, I work in radio
for a long time. I can't imagine there was that
many strenuous and injuries happen in radio. Right. Well, listen,
(15:54):
you fall out of a chair, like you know, I
play you know, sports on the side. You don't know,
you don't really play the game. You don't get it.
I mean, you're not really much in the This is
news to me. I'm trying a little more about you, man.
I mean I thought it was maybe old age. Now
you're telling me you play other sports. Yeah, listen, you
know I I you know, do stuff on the side,
and years ago I had this injury. You've never really
dealt with an injury on the side. What other sports
(16:14):
do you play? Man? I throw iron around? I mean
it was it was like, what do you want to
know iron around? You're working down when working now? I
was playing basketball when I heard it. But it was
a an accumulation of working out and not stretching, and
there was this thing called an I T band which
I was unaware and uh, and that just all of
a sudden gave way to the kneecap. But again, you're
(16:35):
not much. You're not really into you know, physical fitness
and like working out and playing sports. You don't really
get it. You don't play the game, and you know,
I'm just I'm more shocked that you actually played basketball.
You did not strike me as the type that would
be able to dribble a basketball play basketball, that is,
and I don't mean that with any disrespect, just giving
your background. You were more into music. You guys had
a band. It was all that. I know, you're into
(16:57):
working out all that, but I I kind of pictured you, like,
you know, wrestlers like can't play basketball. But you want
to see how unathletic a wrestler or like a boxer is,
go past them a basketball and ask them the dribble
and shoot a basketball. Yeah, well that is one of
the funniest things you ever see. Well it's like, you know,
you've ever seen Colbiba Normaga made off the UFC fighter
(17:19):
him and the way they play basketball over in Russia
they punch each other. Yeah, they literally just it's like rugby.
There's no concept. There's no concept of hey, you can't
take more than two steps, like you know, there's no
It's just hey, I need to get to the basket,
and I don't care that you're in my way, and
I've I've got to pick the ball up and get there.
I've got to get there. So I mean, look again,
(17:41):
no disrespect that you can kick both our asses. Always
saying not good basketball players, not good basketball play. But
again I'm from the US. That's not like we're we're
good at basketball right now either. If you're that's a
good point, Yeah, that is, that is very good point.
All right. The hell's going on with to Shaun Watson Brady?
Now we got what ten criminal complaint two more added
on to the twenty two that we're out there, and
(18:03):
now we've got twenty four. You've got Rusty Harden his
lawyer coming out and speaking about, you know, potential trades.
It could be like, what is going on with DeShawn Watson?
Where are we at? I don't know. I honestly wish
the NFL would give us some more clarity on this
whole situation. We talked about yesterday how the Texans are
(18:23):
in a really bad spot. I don't know how Deshaun
Watson is in a good spot either, though. I mean
that's kind of stating the obvious given the given a
situation off the field, but just talking from a football standpoint,
even if he is to get traded to and there's
been a number of teams that have been thrown out there, right,
I think Denver was one, Miami was one, Philly is
(18:45):
the one we talked about yesterday. They probably have the
most draft capital and cap space to be able to
make something like that happen. So maybe Philly is a
potential target. But how has this helped DeShawn Watson too?
Like the longer he stays in with you austin a
team that he's not gonna play for this year, and
the harder it makes it for him to move on
(19:06):
into a new offense and develop a rapport with everyone
he's throwing too, and harder for the Texas to move
on from it. Like I realized, they want to get
the best offer possible. But you also have to kind
of admit mistakes, Like if he was this unhappy back
before all the stuff came out that was happening off
the field, you should have just dealt him then you
(19:28):
should have moved on then. So don't double down on
this and thinking you're gonna get the offer you want,
because what's being reported, as Chris Mortenson has said via Twitter,
they're looking for high five high draft picks now, highest
kind of relative talk, right, like, we we don't know
what exactly that number is, but we've had three first
(19:48):
round picks and some Okay, Well, if three first round
picks is a part of it, I personally think two
first rounders to second rounds and a third rounder and
maybe an active player gets the job done. And it
sounds like a huge haul. But that's what this sort
of thing really encompasses when you look at the value
of what you're getting in a quarterback. He was a
(20:08):
franchise quarterback and under contract for the long term, so
I don't think that's an overstatement of what he would warrant.
It's just if this thing doesn't happen soon, I don't
know how this is good for anyone, and I don't
know why the NFL won't provide anyone clarity, because they're
the one big question mark in this whole equation. It's
going to be in the next day or so, right,
(20:30):
the more that the conversation sparks up, the NFL has
got to make a move in the next day or so.
I would imagine how much longer can this go. I
don't know. I think there's too focused on like wrist
bands for players who are vaccine accent or whatever. Yeah,
that's that's a very fair We pushed through, We literally
bouldozed through a season without a vaccine, and now we're
(20:51):
we're using that as the single, single most important thing
to talk about right now, not a guy who's got
twenty two separate allegations between civil and criminal suits. Yeah,
let's stop talking about that. Everyone. Look over here, Look
at the wristbands. Look at the wristbands, and the wristbands.
Don't don't look at this. Look at the wristbands. Yeah,
it's like it's like, you know, you want to get
(21:13):
access to uh from club to club in Lake Havasu,
all you gotta have this wristband on like this. This
is where we're at. Just to make sure everybody's aware
of it. Yeah, this is this is what we got
going on. All right, He's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox's
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. You
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actual olympian who is going to be joining the show
(21:35):
right now. This is one of the one of the
greatest achievements in the history of a morning show guest
booking here on fire. I don't know why you're laughing.
I worked really hard to put this together, like and
I Roberto, like every like. It was a three man
job in order to get this get this put together here. Uh.
She is the great Alicia Sacrimony, US Olympian silver medalist,
(21:58):
a bunch of gold medals, world championships, you name it,
one of the living legends and US Gymnastics Alicia, Jonas
and Brady Quinn. Great to have you on with us
here this morning. Good morning, guys, long time no chat. Yeah,
it's been it's been a lot. It's been a while.
He wants to make it look like we're not married.
(22:20):
We're not affiliated at all there. That's why I dropped
your actual last name, just so he can take credit
from this booking Jesus, Like, why why didn't you just
tell everybody you know the tooth Fairies a drug addict.
While you're at it, Brady, we've got to reveal every
dark secret here on the show. Like what are we
talking about? I mean, look, I'm just saying that some
of us worked a little harder to make this happen today.
I'll just put it that way, Alicia. First, First things first,
(22:43):
what when's the last time Brady asked you to cook
him chicken parm? Because we're tired of it. He's got
a problem. It's always chicken parm. It's gotta be chicken parm.
I have to have chicken parm. He won't stop talking
about it. How often in a month do you have
to slave over a stone in the kitchen to cook
him chicken parm? Because he snorts it the second it
(23:04):
hits his plate. I literally made chicken parm on Saturday,
and we Roberto's recipe and you know it's usually once
a week recipe for a while, and then we had
kids and like, you know what, this takes forever, you're
gonna get it maybe once a month. I'm fine with that.
I mean, I I can deal with that. I can
(23:26):
deal with that. So she puts up with me. That's
part of you know, there's your trade offs in every marriage.
This is part of it. But chicken parm was one
of the mustaffs, all right. That was that was that
was written in to everything before we got married, Alicia.
Um So again, I want to thank you for coming
on with us here on Fox Sports Radio now as
we get to the matter in hand here, because I
(23:48):
know you guys want to play grab bass and shenanigans.
I'm here to do sirius sports talk. That's what I
like to do. So that being said, who should I
gamble on in the US Women's Olympics? Uh U S
team come up here shortly? I mean, is there anybody
I should put my money on and gamble on heavily
in order to make a little bit of cash here?
I mean I'm biased, obviously, but I believe TEA is
(24:10):
going to come away with the gold even though they
didn't have a great performance in preliminaries, which really it matters,
and it doesn't because obviously it's getting your place into
the finals, but your scores don't carry over, so you're
starting from a clean slate today. For the competition, so
I think they will come out number one USA all
the way. There's more pressure on them now though, right
(24:32):
going into finals, because there's a difference with the way
you compete in prelimbs versus the finals. So like today,
there's more pressure because they only have what three three
scores and three girls compete. That's correct. So in prelims,
four athletes compete and they count the top three scores,
so you can afford to have a mistake and you
just drop that. Today it's three athletes compete and all
(24:54):
three of those scores have to count. So that makes
it a little bit more exciting, some would say be
because if Says has a lot of mistakes at the count,
then that opened the door for other countries like Russia
or China to kind of make their moves. Is simone
the greatest of all time, that's without question, Like she
is a freak of nature in the best way possible.
(25:16):
And so like she said, how many things are named
after what are they called? By the way, Yeah, but
what are the what are the moves called? Like is
it is there a certain name for it? And the apparatus,
I mean they're legitimately called the Biles and whatever. It
sounds like a files Yeah, I was gonna say that.
(25:39):
It seems like a very painful Yeah that Alicia, what's
the most different? What's the most We were talking about injuries.
Brady's not much of an athletes. He doesn't get it.
So you and I can talk about this here. But
that's just just a couple of a couple of athletes
talking here. Alicia, what is the most significant injury you've
suffered during your gymnastics career. I tore my achilles. That
(26:02):
was probably my worst injury, and that was pretty painful. Um.
Your boy Brady though, actually helped me like get all
the way through that got me into surgery, took care
of me, had it bathed me at one point like
a little kid. So it was like, you know, it
was an experience. Oh, you guys have met before. I
didn't even know that. Ye. Sorry, you could tell them
the whole story. She actually touring World Championships in Japan,
(26:24):
so that was probably one of the more difficult calls
to receive. Uh, and then trying to orchestrate how you
get someone from Japan into surgery and Charlotte, North Carolina
as soon as possible. What was was always interesting. So
pain in the ass, Yeah, seriously, Yeah, with giant pain
in the ass. All right. So Alicia, with that being said,
(26:45):
so is there anything we need to keep an eye on?
Is there is there a certain indicators while watching, uh,
the the women's team that we may be concerned about.
Is there is there another team out there that could
be a potential threat? Is there? Like, what can you
tell us that maybe people aren't aware of or or
just sort of inside I don't want to say insider trading,
but just things to keep an eye on that you've
(27:07):
noticed that could be a potential issue for the U
S team. You know, I feel like there's a little
bit of favoritism with judging, I mean against the United States.
The other scores for other countries seemed a little bit high.
I think, be honest, they've got a red ass for us,
they've got a red ask for us. Come on everything
in their power to not let us win. But the
(27:29):
depth of us is really deep, so they're gonna actually
have a hard time doing that. So basically, you just
want the athletes to stay on the event and not
screw up too badly and then they show win. Okay,
explain this explain this to me, because here's the thing
that's Jonas is one of the type of people. He's
one of those types that likes to go onto Twitter
and live score like boxing matches or you have c
(27:51):
fights and so so. Because before you kicked me in
the nuts on the air about it, I sure did,
because you've rubbed off on me though during pre Limbs
when we were watching, because they're trying to get our
little girls to watch. We want them obviously, hey, you know,
following Min's footsteps, but you know they're still trying to
pay attention to things. But I started scoring, and I
started saying Alicia, like, all right, this is what I
(28:13):
think the score is going to be. And all that
explained it. To explain to people how they score, because
I think there's a misconception like Team US say they're following,
they're they're misstepping. I mean they were falling off of
apparatuses at points in time. Explain to me how they
come out with the scores they get. So there's two
panels of judges. One set of panel of the panel
(28:35):
is they just count the eight hardest skills the athlete
does and that is your start value. Then there's another
panel of judges that's more judges about five or six
judging how well you do the routine and act your execution,
and then you add those two scores together to get
the final thirteen plus whatever score you see on TV.
(28:56):
So it's a lot of um subjectivity and you have
judged from all over the world kind of coming together
to do this. But yes, it's like a real cluster
to get a score for gramatic. But if basically, if
you have a higher start value, you can mess up
a little bit and still beat your competition. Right. For sure,
(29:17):
you're rewarded to do more difficulty, but you also have
to do it well, but you also have some wiggle room. Okay,
So with that many cooks in the kitchen there, it
leads to Shenanigan's right. And has there been any discussion
because they look officiating in the NFL as as a problem,
whether boxing in the UFC people are complaining about it,
(29:38):
the NBA officiating has been awful at times. Has there
been any discussion about we gotta do something, We've got
to make some changes here because there's way too much
of this that's going on and some stuff that just
doesn't add up for a lot of people that watch
these events. No, I mean they brush a lot of
stuff under the rug and gramatics. So there's been like
situations where my coach was a judge for Mania back
(30:00):
in the day and there was like gift giving and
all stuff on behind the scenes, so it was like
a little sketchy. I've heard stories. What about the cardboard
beds they're sleeping on? Any thoughts on that? Is that
what you guys had to sleep on? Didn't you when
you're in did you guys have to sleep on cardboard beds? No,
there are normal beds. But it's not like cardboard beds
(30:21):
are an issue for Jim that's they're so small. But
I feel bad for any like basketba players are normal
sized people sleeping on that. Like, that's not going to
withstand um Alicia sacramone sacrimony Quinn. Rather, she is weird
with us on Fox Sports Radio. I didn't want to
refer to her as her married name because I want
you also had a hard time pronouncing your last name listen,
(30:41):
because because I've heard it two different ways, sacramony and sacrimony,
and then there's there's a right way to say, there's
a wrong way to sign, well, listen, tomato, tomato. I
don't know what you want for me. Here's the thing, Alicia, Um,
how drunk do people get in the Olympic village? Now?
I know things are different this year, but how bomb
do people get when they're in the Olympic village? Because
I've heard stories about that as well too. Well, it's
(31:04):
not necessarily in the village you're gonna see them highly intoxicated.
It's more like there's all these parties that go on
outside the village at like ten USA house. Each country
has their own house and they host these parties typically
in a normal Olympic games um, and it is a
rage fest. There's a lot of drinking, and there's a
lot of um breeding potentially going on. A lot of
(31:28):
super athletes are probably born post Olympics. Yeah, is it
more or less drinking than what the three of us
did at Ted's Montana Grill in Atlanta a couple of
years ago for the Super Bowl. It's definitely less, Okay,
I just wanted to make sure. Uh, she's awesome. Alicia
Sacrimony Quinn, the wife of Brady Quinn, US Olympian, great mom,
(31:54):
great person, a hell of a good time to hang
out with Alicia. We love you. Yeah, that too good
for We love you and hey, we'll talk soon. How
about that, guys, have a good show. She hates us.
That's there's a lot of a lot in the bank
there that I'm gonna come back out and figure out.
(32:16):
So well, I'll tell you what our four. I'll have
my wife pop on and then we'll have that discussion
here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, he's Brady Quinn.
I'm Jonas Knox's I'll kick the coverage here on FS
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People were handing out bad information in the NFL. We
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(32:37):
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(32:59):
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(33:20):
of next hour. We will get into a little hypothetical here.
Uh could we see a changing of the guard, a
power shift in the National Football League and it only
takes one move. We will get into that here top
of next hour here on Fox Sports Radio. But right
now we do want to turn it over to Eddie
Garcia for some breaking news in the world of sports.
(33:46):
Breaking news from Fox Sports. Yeah, I'm interested in what
Brady's wife might have to say about this news. But
some breaking news from the Olympics where American star gymnast
Simone Biles has withdrawn from the team just gymnastics competition.
She apparently was injured attempting a vault. Uh. She left
(34:06):
the competition area, returned a little bit later. Apparently her
foot is wrapped up, but she is out of the
team competition for the US. Uh in the team gymnastics competition.
And that's uh, that's our best gymnasts. So that's that's
not good news. Yeah, it's it's bad. Now I'm hearing Otherwise,
it's not necessarily an injury UM because she's still planning
on competing in the individual events that she qualified for
(34:30):
UM in prelims. So whatever the quote, if it's an
injury or not, my understanding is she's filling a lot
of pressure UM, which is which is a little bit
I'm not gonna say odd. I mean, look at the Olympics,
it's a huge event, but even more so for her,
even though she's accomplished so much, she's the most decorative,
she's the best ever UM that the tough thing is
(34:51):
it's her last one, and I think that's where she
kind of probably is feeling the pressure of the finality
of all this UM and so I you know, it
sounds like she didn't have a good warm up and
she was battling a lot of a lot of that mentally,
and so the landing on the vault definitely probably added
to it. But word is that exact landing she had
when she actually competed was the same way she was
(35:14):
landing that vault during warmups, and so there's something kind
of else set play here. Either way, it's a bad
sign for Team USA. Yeah. By the way, hey Eddie,
get a kick out of that. Uh Billy Blowhard over
there thinks he's got insiders like sources when it comes
to US Olympics gemnastics talking to some people over into Yeah, yeah,
sure you are sure, you are all right? So give me.
(35:37):
I hate to do this on the air. This, this
is rude. I hate to have to do this on
the air. So just give me one second. I hear
on Fox Sports Radio, can get on Russia. Sorry, what's
going on? What are we talking about here? I'm looking
Russ in the lead right now? I as as you
know what's funny about this. You know what's funny about
(35:58):
this is people will gamble against their favorite team. Okay,
they will. They will do that, gamble against their favorite team.
But when it comes to the Olympics, they will not
gamble against their country. Even though at this point, given
how good Simone Biles is, given how big of a
deal this is, it hurts team USA. I don't know
(36:18):
that many people are gonna bet against against the USA.
I don't think many people are gonna take Rush, even
though they again they were leading kind of coming into it.
Uh second, I think there are plus odds plus was
it fred something like that? Yeah, it was they were
significant underdogs the U. And look, your wife, Alicia came on.
If you missed that, you can check out the podcast
(36:40):
Brady's wife, Alicia Sacrimony. She's a silver medalist in the Olympics.
She knows your stuff, and she said, look, the US
should take take control of this thing and they should
be okay. But that was before this whole Simone Biles
story comes out. And and I guess on the NBC broadcast,
what are they saying. It's a mental issue, that there's
(37:00):
something going on, like psychological and you you mentioned that.
So now you probably are looking around if you did
have money on the US, Uh, you're probably scrambling going
all right, when's the first NFL preseason game? Like what
am I like? Now you're trying to figure out how
you're gonna get that money back. So, I mean, they're
they're talking a lot just about pre limbs and some
of her posts to social media afterwards talking about feeling
(37:22):
the weight of the world on her shoulders and and
I gotta be honestly, that was one of the things
I talked to my wife about, is how she she's
the advantage, like Simone Biles is so good, she's so
good at this sport. She's the difference maker where no
other country has a chance because she's that much better
than everyone else. Her start values are that much higher
than everyone else. And so not only is it obviously,
(37:45):
you know, for her and the rest of the field,
but it's also the way she's able to lift up
Team USA. Now she's got to take on a different role.
She's gotta become that leader. She's gonna become almost that
kind of coach, if you will, for these girls for
the rest of the way. But it's it's troubling because
if you got the Olympics, there's like certain sports we
expect to win. Women's gymnastics is is kind of one
(38:05):
that we've taken for granted because how good simone is.
Men's basketball is another one. They've obviously had their struggles.
It's it's been an interesting Olympics so far for Team USA. Yeah, man, listen,
uh look, but you know the good news is the
NFL is right around the corner, Brady Quinn. That's good news, alright.
So if you lost your ass betting on the US
UH gymnastics team, don't worry about it. The Hall of
(38:28):
Fame game, we got over under his win totals NFL.
Next this, this is out take the coverage right now.
Always kind enough to join us here every single Tuesday.
It is a Tuesday morning tradition here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Great Petros Papadak is a M five seventy l
(38:48):
A sports college football analysts. Petros, what the hell is
going on? How are you? What's up? Hello? Good morning everybody. Uh,
it's great to hear your voices. Uh. I have to say,
I'm really struggling this morning because I don't know if
I should just go to yoga and start my day
when this is over, or go back to sleep. I
(39:09):
kind of don't want to face the day. It's packed
twelve media day, and I don't want. Petro says, as
your personal trainer, a motivator, go go to yoga because
here's I just don't know if I'm gonna go now
or later, because I just I just want to go
back to bed. I don't want to face everybody at
(39:31):
pack twelve media day and I have to see everybody.
But go now. You know you're gonna feel better getting
it all said and done. You have a better attitude,
right with your drink and everything by the way are
any of the are any of the gutlass media member
is going to ask Clay Hilton about that bomb that
was in the facility this offseason or one. Oh no,
(39:51):
nobody's gonna ask anybody anything. It's gonna be a giant
mutual masturbation session and always here. That's what media day.
I mean, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter what what
you're talking about. It could be a movie or a
conference or some kind of upcoming social program. I mean,
(40:13):
that's all all media day is is a is a
big you know, blankets um all in all serious this
I mean after we we talked what a week ago,
I mean, college football has changed so dramatically use of
oh you in Texas just in a week's time, Like
(40:34):
what is what is college football gonna look like in
your mind? With the news and everything that's gone on
since we last spoke two years from now? Like how
is this going to look to you? Yeah? I've said
this for a long time, not that I'm some kind
of oracle, because I think it was pretty clear, Like
the same way it was clear that Aaron Rodgers was
gonna play for the Packers and the players in the
(40:55):
NFL don't have any power. Is that we're gonna have
like three gigantic conferences or something like that, and the
n C Double A is going to facilitate it happening.
And everybody's gonna get in line because they're afraid of
losing the Power five or some machination of the Power five.
(41:19):
The halves of college football to develop their own entity,
to develop their own league where they can actually pay
players they should. I mean, this whole name image likeness
thing is the dumbest conversation. It's like half pads. You
know how players will just do anything for half pads.
(41:41):
Kyle choke his mother taff to death for half pads.
They seriously like, if you tell a football team that
thinks that they're going to be in full pad and
I'm getting to a point here, trust me. Uh, if
you tell a football team that, hey, you guys are
gonna be in half pads, like we're riding up on
(42:03):
the board while everybody's like anticipating, you know, being in
full pads, it will be like, I mean, a celebration,
Like I mean, it is like every It's like Christmas
and Easter and everything wrapped into one. Everybody just goes
crazy and for what they still hit hard in the
(42:24):
half bad but or God knows, Like if you want
guys to die and go to heaven, you tell them helmets,
you know, and guys just go nuts. I mean for
old lineman, it doesn't matter. The pas some degree protected. No,
they hate it. They hate getting all strapped in and
(42:45):
tucking their balls and and all that stuff. They hate it.
Trust me, baby doesn't know because no one's allowed to
hit him in practice. So he didn't I got that.
But for everybody else it is like it is like
the Red Sea opening and the slaves leaving Egypt when
(43:06):
they tell you half pads. So when that became a
bargaining chip in the NFL, when they're like, yeah, what
do we need? We need guaranteed money. You know, you
guys are making billions and billions of dollars. It's the
most lucrative sports league in the world. Uh, we're gonna
need We're gonna need guaranteed money. We're gonna need care
(43:27):
for the old crooked ass players from the sixties, seventies, eighties,
and nineties. We're gonna need this. And then all the
NFL comes back and says to the union is half
pads and they go, okay, done. I mean, there's the
football players are the dumbest in the Well, yeah there's there's. Yeah.
(43:50):
Name image likeness is the half pads of college football.
Uh well, half pads is the half pads of college football.
But but namage image likeness is the same. It's like, okay,
what who's making money? Well, the universities, Well what do
they do with it? Whatever they want? They make billions
upon billions upon the donations that they get from alumni
(44:11):
who are billionaires who don't know what to do with
their money and want to see it on the plane.
So what are we gonna do to get the players
some money? Because these guys are struggling in a lot
of situations and there's so much money being made it
just is hard to reconcile the guys between the lines
not getting a piece of it. And what do they say, Well,
(44:33):
we're gonna let Billy Bob's grain elevator down the street. Hey,
our quarterbacks to show up and sign autographs. That is
the half pads of college football. It is the dumbest thing,
like we are so stupid, and every the media, Oh
this guy got this, and this guy got that. That
(44:54):
this guy was always getting that it was under the table.
The problem is still that the universities, oh the players
at risk money and that is not solved. But they
gave us half pads, and the media takes it and
runs with it like Fox to Run. But I'm tired
of it. Brady, Well, first off, let me explain to
(45:16):
people what half pads are. You don't wear pants, you
got shoulder pads, helmet, you don't have your your football pants,
but you're supposed to stay off the ground, right and
no one hits harder than the ground. That's true, Um,
But that's it's just so people understand. That's what half
pads looks like. If you're envisioning a football player, just
imagine with shorts, shoulder pads, and a helmet. But um,
(45:39):
Petro's so, what does that mean for the for the
pactual because here's what I read. Hold on, hold on here,
here's what I've read. So, oh U Texas, at some
point they're gonna be in the SEC. Then we see
a report that the SEC is targeting O s U, Michigan,
Clemson and they're essentially trying to align and create this
super conference. They didn't mention any Patchwolf teams. Why is that, Well,
(46:05):
because USC is weak. Uh No, it's true. I mean
that's look, the US has destroyed their football brand for
the last decade. Uh, USC and Nebraska are looking at
the mirror right now and saying what the hell happened?
And the Nebraska situation is different, and every situation's unique.
(46:25):
But I mean we've talked about USC. They have a
head coach that's not allowed to hire or fire assistance
or call plays. And they run the athletic department from
the athletic direct They run the football program from the
athletic director's seat or the president seat of the university.
And you just can't do that and and have success,
(46:47):
not with this sport never. And it's a very bureaucratic really,
it's just sad kind of governmental way to run a
football program. That's not how football works. Football all is
a dictatorship. You know, football, I hate to say it.
Football needs Manuel Noriega, you know, UH to be the
head coach uh, not some not not not an administrator. Uh.
(47:12):
And you know it's not like USC just sucked last
year or something. You know, USC has been down for
over a decade. And that being the case, that that
that's that's the crown jewel on the West coast. Where's
the sec gonna travel? Seattle? I mean, l A is
the only destination in USC is the only thing that
(47:35):
raises eyebrows and other parts of the country not for me.
I love all the schools out here. It's part of
my football culture. But you can scream into the wind
all you want and no one else is gonna listen.
And we talk about it all the time. You know,
there's a reason it's super hard to win the Heisman
anywhere but USC on the West Coast unless you have
all Nikes money behind you. It's uh, it's a conundrum.
(48:00):
But it's not something that just happened overnight. USC has
destroyed their their brand. I mean, you can get forty
yard line twenty your seats up tickets to the coliseum
right now, they're available. Those have never been available ever
this time of year in the history of USC football.
(48:21):
They have destroyed their brand and in turn, they've destroyed
West Coast football. And so you so you think that
USC really is the lynchpin for the troubles out on
the entire West coast, well, not just California. Otherwise we've
been talking about the A C c A is the
worst conference in the world. Right, Where did they go?
(48:42):
Because I've heard you talk about this locally on AM
five seventy l A Sports Petros Papadegus by the way,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. But you you've
talked about this. Where they went in a direction as
far as hiring a coach? Is that where this all started? Where? Okay?
So what what? What? Where this all began when things
started to fall apart for that? He Carroll created an
(49:03):
environment that was not sustainable with whether he knew that
or not, and he created the n C double A
sanctions along with help from Reggie and but it was
his They couldn't control him. This is the opposite of
what they had with him. Pete Carroll had so much
success that no one could tell him what to do,
(49:24):
and if somebody tried, he would threaten to leave, which
he was always going to do anyway. He was always
interviewing with proteins every single summer, so I don't know
why that was such a shock. So he was always
going to leave, but he wouldn't be told what to
do while he was there, and he created an untenable environment.
I mean, I was there, trust me. And then because
(49:46):
of that, USC's response was to take a different kind
of control of the football program, which was disastrous. They
had a USC had a president who has now been disgraced,
who cared more about raising money than about breathing, and
everything was secondary to that. And USC has dozens of varying,
(50:10):
horrific controversies outside of the football program. You live in
l A. You know that. You read the l A Times. Uh.
To prove it, that guy's name was Max Nikias. He
hired his buddies Pat Hayden and then subsequently Lynn Swan
to be the athletic directors. They hired unstable Pete Carroll
(50:31):
minions at the time Steve Sarkisian and Lane Kiffen Uh
not in that order. Uh. And it now Hilton and
it goes from there. But now they're trying to delegate
things from the top, and you just need to hire
somebody like Matt Campbell and let him work. But they
(50:52):
won't do that because they're afraid of of a repeating
Pete Carroll problem. But I don't see how they're scared
of that. None of the people that were there when
Carol was there, there anymore. They all got fired because
of the Varsity Blues scandal. What what coaches could they
have had outside of Clay Helton? What would that They
could have had Herban Meyer? I mean, my god, Brady
sat next to him for two years. They could have
(51:14):
had him. He would have taken the ten million a year.
But they won't let people build a staff. They won't
let people hire and fire a staff. And it's like,
who who would take the USC job? I mean, the
guy at Wyoming wouldn't take the US coach Bowl, wouldn't
take the USC job unless you gave him full control.
Now you'd be an idiot not to and we say
(51:36):
this all the time, but why would you if you
were anybody uh at USC? To hire different assistance, you
have to hire like the Ryan Days of the world,
the Lincoln Riley's, you know, the guy the next big guy. Uh.
(51:56):
Clay Helton and his like see that as a threat.
They don't want a guy with who with any skill
because they're scared he's going to take their job. So
there's just a pyramid of weakness. And now Graham Harrold
runs a show. I mean Graham Harrold, who was at
North Texas you want to make him the head coach
and run the air Aid for the rest of your life.
(52:18):
Pets Rosa, I do want to ask it the more
reason we're not competing. I'm sorry, I do want to
ask you more. Back to kind of a bigger picture
with OU in Texas and that news. Is this good
for college football in your mind? Like kind of what's happening,
how the landscape is changing so fast? Well maybe it looks, however,
we get the more of the country involved, the better.
But again, I live in Los Angeles, and as much
(52:41):
as I love college football all around the country and
celebrate it wherever they put me to call a game,
I'm invested in Pac twelve football. I always have been.
And the reason USC needs to be great is for
the rest of the conference. Uh. It's okay if it's
super top heavy, because then the rest of the conference
at some point kind of raises to that level. But
(53:06):
with the Pac twelve. Look, the PAC twelve has two
major problems We've talked about forever. Their TV deal, which
was basically like just taking Clorox and drinking it. Well,
I mean, it blew out all their insights and uh,
(53:28):
and then and then the USC has been bad. You know,
you could have a crappy TV deal and USC Matt
Leonard and Reggie Bush were bigger stars in this town
than Kobe Bryant. They were. I mean, that happened. That
was a huge thing, and it came with some consequences.
But the point is it's it's a sleeping giant, just
(53:48):
like the u c l A fan base here and
this town was that kind of rose up when they
made the Final four this last year. And it's unfortunate
to see what's happened. And much like the conference on
the West host, with the current structure, I just don't
know how recoverable it is. It doesn't look recoverable at all.
I mean, yoga packed, twelve media days, you got a
(54:10):
hell of a Tuesday plan patrol and then don't forget
the three and a half hour radio show. That's all
that's true. Yeah, and you and Matt money Smith as
well too. I mean, this is gonna be a hell
of a good time, come on. Yeah, but you know,
at least you can have at least you know, you
can have a little bit of fun with it, and
and event when you leave there and go on the air,
you know there's some people who just have to cover
(54:31):
it and they have to play grab bass and and
suck up to people in the pack twelve. And you
don't play that game, which is why we like having
well suck up. Yeah, but when I see Wilcox and
I'm like, oh, I love the way you coach that
secondary coach, you're gonna you're gonna suck your balls and
you're gonna go in there. I stayed for a very
(54:55):
short about it. It's first and then it's depressing. It's
like the worst corner on Earth. It's like they might
as well have it on the seventh Circle of Hell.
It's on Hollywood and Highland with like the Spider Man
with the outfit that doesn't fit that, you know, the
methout Superman that they're danning a dumpster, you know, taking
pictures with people, a giant Pikachu. Everybody's on drugs. Yeah,
(55:19):
I mean Petros. I assume you've you've been to other
ones to like the only criticism I've had because I
think the patrol of Media Day dinner they do is fantastic.
I wasn't able to make it this year, but in
years past that that's that's a great event. This year
either well, yeah, I wonder why I'm still waiting for that,
for that invite the mail um. But but compared to
(55:39):
every other media day, it's just it feels different. Man.
It just doesn't feel like everyone's is excited about it.
You go to the Big twelve, you go to the
Big Yes, march gonna go that far. But it just
has this feel like they like they feel like they're
obligated to do it, and so they put it on.
(56:00):
It's not something that everyone's excited about. I just remember
being in a Big twelve media day Dallas and Bob
Stoops walked in with his Mary Kay President wife on
his arm, and it might as well have been the
King and Queen of England. Everybody just took a knee.
(56:20):
It was just like the most powerful couple in the Midwest.
Oh man, get him on Twitter at the old p
Petro's enjoy it while you can, uh and we will
will do it again next week. Thanks. I don't know
what to do. Do we have the drop from the
(56:41):
beginning of of how he described the patrol of media day, Yeah,
I mean, you know, we we've we've got it there.
It'll it'll get us fired. That'll be that'll be the
movie we do, all right, Brady Quinn Jonas knocks is.
I'll kick the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming
up next things in the world of sports we've not
had a chance to get to. We will put a
bow on this bad boy. It's the scraps and they're yours.
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