July 29, 2021 • 41 mins
Jonas and LaVar talk Aaron Rodgers frustration, the potential trade with San Francisco that obviously didn't happen and where Green Bay dropped the ball. The fellas react to the BIG12 Commish claiming he has proof that ESPN encouraged teams to move from his conference and Danny G. delivers The Scraps. Plus, they have a fun conversation about Kelvin Benjamin and the reason why he was recently cut from a certain team that doesn't enjoy food.
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The man himself, the man they call sticks, LaVar Arrington.
What up, my guy? LaVar's happy to be here. We
were just talking during the break about how difficult it
is for us to say rs and w's together. It's
very difficult, Like Rivalry Week, real world. Yeah, I struggle
with that's like interesting, Russell Westbrook. It's it's hard Russell.
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I can get Russell Westbrook. Yeah, it's still it's difficult. Yeah,
Rivalry Week it's always the one that got me because
it's two urs. Rivalry Rivalry. Yeah, it's just good man,
because it's the way you have to it, like when
you're enunciating, to enunciate it and do it in quick
form and fashion. It's just it's different, like to form
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your mouth like the letters is so Yeah, it's one
of those things, uh, and the things you know, people
that speak through the microphone, you know, have to come
up with something. Yeah. I mean, look, I I can't
remember working in the South and we were doing a
big college football preview and you know, like there's that
game towards the end where it's all the rivals that
go head to head, and so we were doing this
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big college football preview and I probably took me a
half hour to cut the line. It's rivalry week. I could.
I don't know what it was. What you just did
is how you do it. You gotta push it out,
what you're like, you gotta push it through your your breath. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta push it out. Man. It's tough man, and
God forbid to try and do that where you're where
you're outside during the cold, trying to do a live report.
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That's just not happening. So yeah, all sorts of struggles
for us here that we that we were airing out
here on the air on Fox Sports Radio. The new
is of the day in the NFL was the piping
that Aaron Rodgers gave the Green Bay Packer organization. The
front office pretty much laid waste to everybody there. Lamar
put them all on Nottice. Let everybody know here's my frustrations.
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This is what has bothered me. Um, this is what
I wanted to have happened. This is what has not happened.
Here's where we're at, and this is what could possibly
be taking place when in regards to I could be leaving,
I could be out of here, um and uh and
and and this team could be stuck with whatever they're
dealing with. Or I can be more involved, we can
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resolve some of these issues, and maybe he sticks around
for a longer period of time. Yeah, that's all I
tell you. So the GM, the GM comes out and
and he speaks and quote gun to curse Guntcus Wednesday,
he's aren't the right to have those discussions. Yeah, I think.
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I think what he's done for the organism, have done
for this organization, he deserves at least the conversation every year.
Think about this now, because we're saying this is the
last dance. He's gone, he's out of here. He'd beat
the restructuring to do this. LaVar has been telling y'all,
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y'all need to pay attention to your boy. LaVar has
been telling y'all this was a power move. He is
not trying to leave he's trying to stay. So here
we go. He he has earned where where am I here?
He deserves at least the conversation every year, every year,
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meaning not just this year. He didn't say he deserves
to have the conversation this year. He said he deserves
to have the conversation every year about where we are heading,
where he's heading. So to me, what he what? What's
going to happen here? Now here? Here's what's gonna happen?
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Because this was like this is this isn't quite quite
a hostile takeover because hostile take over you generally lay
waste to the top. Guys, go ahead, do you want
to hear your guy, Brian Gooden? Come on here? Here?
Here is the yesterday. I think winning is the most
important thing, right, That's the number one thing when we
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make decisions, whether it's personnel, whether it's mad and it's
coaching staff, whether it's Mark and with some of the
things he's doing, I think there's a lot of opinions.
There's a lot of different angles, you know, certainly from personality.
You know, I got sour cap, coaching, scouting, all that
kind of stuff. I think it's just kind of continuing
to incorporate those things with Aaron. I think he's earned
that seat at the table to have a voice. He
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always has head a voice. I think it's just kind
of incorporating that interesting well, he he put him in
the corner and incorporating the voice that after what Aaron
Rodgers did to them on that chess board yesterday, he
put them in check. It ain't made yet, but he
did put them in a strong check and they're gonna
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lose like a strong piece, like something's going to come
off of the board with what Aaron Rodgers did to
them yesterday. So now, really, because you can't sit there
if you're if you're Mark Murphy, if you're gonna kiss,
I'm not gonna say it's right his name right, So
so forgive me, okay, b g alright. If those two
guys don't sit there and and really get behind this,
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you're going to look foolish because you do not have
the resume, You do not have the bones the foundation
to be able to stand up to what that man
presented in that pressor yesterday. You would be best served
to stay away from turning what he said yesterday into
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a debate or into a a confrontational type of exchange
you will lose. So now you hear that those sound bites,
you you hear the quotes, they are they are now
in the corner and they are forced with their backs
against the wall to have to figure out how to
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reconcile this situation with Aaron Rodgers. And that's all he's wanted.
Either you reconcile this and you give me my respect
and we move forward, or I'm gonna bloat his bitch
up and I'm gonna roll up out of here, and
y'all are going to be left with the carnage. Is
what's left for not giving me what I wanted in
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this this situation that exists. And so when Rogers was
breaking down just sort of the timeline of the events,
one of the discussions that came up at the press
conference was Draft Day, because it was on Draft Day
when all of a sudden, there was a report from
Adam Schefter that Rogers was unhappy and he wanted out
of Green Bay. And so Rodgers was asked yesterday about
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Draft Day, and here's what he had to say. This
wasn't you know, a draft day thing. This was started
with the conversation in February and I just expressed, you know,
my desire to be more involved in conversation directly affecting
my job. Now here's where this gets interesting, because Paul
Allen Um, who was the voice of the Minnesota Vikings
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um and he's a big you know, a big time
voice and and personality in in Minneapolis and does great
work there. But he reported that and I had heard
this same thing, and I heard this separately, but he
had reported on the day of the draft that Aaron
Rodgers was told that he would have been that he
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was going to be traded by the Green Bay Packers
and that it was the forty because that's what they
wanted to do, yes, And and so that report came out,
And there's also that the story is surfacing again that
the Packers wanted to trade Roger. And part of his frustration,
and this is what I had heard, and I heard
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this from somebody completely separate, but part of Rogers frustration
was the fact that he was under the impression that
they had a plan, that the Packers were going to
trade him, that the forty Niners were the team that
were the team being discussed that he would be traded to.
And then all of a sudden, the Packers backed away
from the trade, and Rogers looked around, going what the
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hell is going on here? Like like you don't even
like that? What is the what is the director? You
have more context? Like think about it. Why would Aaron
Rodgers want to go to the San Francisco forty Niners
and leave Green Bay? You know why? Because he didn't
have a place at the table. So if you're not
going to allow me to be at the table, then
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you at least like San Franciscan And you didn't even
you weren't even able to get a deal done when
there was potentially a deal that was there, and you
didn't want to get that deal done. You wanted to
get it, yes, but you didn't. One day were getting
cold And the reason I think they got cold feet
is because look at it this way. At that point
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in time, the forty Niners had already moved up in
the draft with the Dolphins. If you're the Green Bay Packers,
wouldn't the assets that were there before you made the
trade with Miami been more appealing because they gave up
a first round pick in and a first round pick in.
If I'm Green Bay, I don't care about the number
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three overall, pick I'm not taking a quarterback. I got
Jordan Love right, So so this is yes, question mark right,
like you like I have Geordan Love right. So yeah.
So this whole, this whole discussion, you just look at
every possible scenario that was there, and it just screams
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of man, Green Bay had opportunities here, and it just
they continued to either kick the can down the road
or completely missed the can and and and twist their
ankle because they just they didn't know what direction they
wanted to go in. And that I think gets to
the base of this all, which is his frustration with
the way he's saying. He's he basically told y'all yesterday
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that this this whole operation isn't being ran in the
most professional man like if Washington told you back in
the day. You were in a similar spot with Washington
and they told you, all right, so here's the deal.
We're gonna try and get a deal done. We're gonna
try and get a trade done, and we've got a
team locked up, and you're like, Okay, well, at least
I know that that we've got this out of the
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way and I can focus on getting to my next
destination and figuring this out, and then all of a
sudden they come back to you and go, yeah, about
that trade just wasn't able to happen. To be pissed,
it would be. But but here's the thing. If I
go into trade, it's just a trade. If Aaron Rodgers
goes in the trade, you have detonated. You have you
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have basically shorted the stock of the Green Bay packs.
So when you're making a decision like that, when I
never knew that the Jay's and Jimmy Dean we're we're
cowboy boots anyway, that's random. Uh, I'm just telling you,
is that right? It's like I didn't realize that Brewers
logo was AMT until like three years ago. I knew that.
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I didn't know that, bro, you thought you knew that
the Jimmy Dean Sausage Jay's we were boots. Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm late. I am so late to the party on
that one. It's so random. All you think, where's where's
the Crilling show? You know what's on my mind right now.
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But but here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has now put
so much context that you're looking at a Green Bay
like these dudes are foolish, Like what have they been thinking? Yeah,
it's so now they got to try to make good
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on making Aaron happy, because it's a like Aaron almost
just put them in They're in career suicide watch mode
right now. Yeah, because and and look, we were talking
about this yesterday and you made the point there's a
big difference between if the Patriots walk away from Tom
Brady and he rattles off, you know, a couple more
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super bowls and as a ton of succession, Yeah, of course,
because you have a built in success equity as the
Patriots organization, because you have won super Bowls and you've
got a lot going on there. And you have a leadership,
right you have you have a a head coach that
can stand up in the wake of Tom Brady leaving.
You have a owner and that can stand up and
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lead in the wake of Tom Brady leaving. What do
you have in Green Bay? And look, Matt Laflour has
done a great job as head coach the first two
years exactly, And and and that's that's the issue. And
and one of the other things that was talked about
and I heard about this. I remember where I was
when I heard this at in Super Bowl in Atlanta,
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UM Patriots rams at Radio ROW. I was talking with
two people, UM with NFL ties UM there in front
of the Fox Sports Radio Radio rowe booth and they
had the big set up there and they told me, yeah,
Aaron Rodgers had no input on the Matt Lafleur hiring none.
They didn't. They didn't even consult him. There was no
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discussion with him. There was no hey, you know, what
do you think about this? And and here's And some
people might say, oh, well, you know, why would they
That's dangerous. You want to know how, you want to
know how, you want to How Bruce Arians ended up
in Arizona. A lot of people don't know this. Bruce
Arians was one of the final two candidates for the
Chicago Bears coaching job, and the Bears went to Jay
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Cutler and said, who do you want to go with,
Bruce Arians or Mark Trestman. Cutler lean to Trestman and
that was an absolute diaper fire and Bruce Arians. Bruce
Arians went onto Arizona pretty good. Damn right, damn righty
did and then later parlay that into a gig with
Tampa Bay. Now he's got a super bath a pretty
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good but but they consulted with Jake Cutler about the
coaching gig and Aaron Rodgers neverone was even consulted about.
That's nothing wrong with consulting players about decision. What do
you think the best organizations are ran by people who
are employees that take ownership over the job that they're doing,
not guys that show up to do their job and
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and punch out and go home and when they're done. Know,
the best employees are the ones that punch in and
take ownership over their job. You know why, because they
are going to take and go the extra mow. They
are going to have extra accountability, They're they're going to
have a measure of pride and what it is that
they're doing. They're not just trying to get a check.
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And I think that when there's something to be said
about when you have a high level employee that understands it.
By the way, happy is to be a minority share
owner of the basketball team. So you have ownership qualities
in this employee that you have. He can give you.
You can learn from players about what's going on with
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your team personnel wise, culturally speaking, there are you know
how much money do you think Aaron Rodgers makes right
now or could make to go into a company and
talk to them about culture, build out, inspiration, accountability of
Tom Brady. How much do you think they would get
paid just to go in and talk for an hour
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about what it is to have teamwork, winning teamwork and
an environment that's that's conducive to winning. How much you
think they would command It's a lot, But yet in
your own organization, you can't command the respect for them
to talk to you about what personnel moves that may
take place, what you think what could work best. When
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you got a guy that you are basing the value
of your stock, you're basing the value of your franchise
off of that person in specific particular. But you can't
have a conversation with him about roster moves, about coaching moves,
about anything, marketing, advertising. You can't state how how much
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do you think State Farm pays him to be a
part of State Farm. You don't want to leverage that
brand away. State Farm is leveraging that brand for your
your franchise. All he did was exposed more conversation about
how many misses are taking place with how you're underutilizing
a guy like that, He's a tremendous asset and you're
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not even utilizing it. How does that work? And you
say the whole thing is to win. You want to
just win, You want to win. But how are you
just winning when the biggest piece of your puzzle to win.
It's confused as to why he's not being consulted at
every turn four quarterbacks, or for a coach, for a
draft pick, for for free agents. Why is that such
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an issue? And now that people see it and are
are getting the opportunity to catch up to where Aaron
Rodgers is and understand it, it's like a mind blowing
epiphany that's taking place for everybody who has not looked
at it this way. It's I'll kick the coverage here
on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you
here on FS are coming up next. We got a
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major accusation in the world of football. We will see
if there's anything to it. It's yours next here, I'll
kick the coverage Fox Sports Radio. This this is I'll
kick the coverage. It's I'll kicked the coverage here Fox
Sports Radio. Jonas knocks, I wish people how crazy Jonas
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Knocks really is Listen Jonah knocks LaVar Arrington here on
Fox Sports Radio. Does it have a time? The name
of the show? You you know, you should have a
pot has and it's just hit me. This this is
just this revelation is just hit me. It should be
entitled Visiting the Mind of Jonas Knox. You know it
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might have been born today. Yeah, I just think about things.
I just don't know that you would have a job
that like after each podcast. I would be concerned if
you had a job once. Oh yeah, that that's when
you do after you win the lottery, because then you're
not worried about money, but you would make a ton
of money off of giving the thoughts that are in
your mind. Yeah, it's too raw, Like you want the truth,
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you can't handle the truth. That's like, that's what's going on.
Like when I hear the stuff you say during breaks,
that's what comes to months. You know, there there is
an accusation being had in the world of sports. I
don't know if you saw this, but you know how
Texas and Oklahoma are thinking about going to the SEC
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waiting on a prove on that UM Big twelve commissioner
Bob Bowlsby is claiming, yeah, that he has documented evidence
that ESPN tried to encourage unnamed and unnamed conference. Is
CBS Sports is reporting it's the American Conference Athletic Conference.
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UH tried to encourage them, uh to take Big twelve
teams from the Big twelve to throw a wrench into
the the Big twelve and and everything. Now, ESPN has
denied that they obviously have partnered and have a relationship
when it comes to yeah, listen, man, it felt a
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little rushed, It felt a little out of the blue.
Oh so your top two teams all of a sudden
want to go to the SEC. Wait what what? What
happened here? So it does feel like reason incentive, some
something that motivates or you know, kind of gets the
thing move and gets it rolling. There are there, listen,
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to create to create these mega mega conferences is to
create mega expenditures and mega billing. That's what that's that's
what it's all about. I mean, you are creating a
conference where you can command more money being spent and
more money being generated. And here here's here's the thing.
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And this is why I bring it because you mentioned,
you know, uh, inside the mind and television is a
major part of that. And that's but no, that's, as
you mentioned, inside the mind of me, and I don't
I don't know me personally. I don't have any evidence
of this, all right, So I'm not I'm not making
an accusation here. I'm not not claiming anything. I don't
have any evidence of this stuff. You know, Bulsby sends
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a season assist to ESPN because he's claiming they were
involved and trying to tear apart the conference. All all
say is this, if we want to go inside the mind,
if I were a betting man, I would say that
probably makes some sense like that that because when TV
and you just touched on it, when TV money is involved,
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it's it's astronomical money. And and so look, there there's
a lot of people that feel like part of the
reason why the Tim Donnahey situation in the NBA didn't
get as much as as much heat or maybe as
much pushback initially because the report the story had been out,
there were rumors that have been out there is because
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the NBA was waiting on their TV contract to get
done before they acknowledge that there was an issue with
Tim Donahey. Like there's like there's stories like that all
over the place. So in in my mind, inside my
sick and twisted mind, I look at this and I go,
I don't have proof that this is true, but it
would not surprise me whatsoever if a network got involved
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and and and had some sort of an impact on
a conference falling apart of the seams because they had
a vested interest in it, and Espen has a vested
interest in the SEC. I mean, what how would you
like for me to respond to that? In the words
about LaVar. There's a lot to impact. There's a lot
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to unpack there. But what I'm trying to say to
you is by not saying it is that you're spot on.
What would it surprise you know? Just in fact not
not only would it not surprise me, That's probably what's
going on. The interest is too high. It looks amazing.
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The interest is way too high for them not to
want If this is the perfect time to try to
lure different teams into different conferences so that you can
align them and continue to organize them in a way
where you can make your your station, your channel, your
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network more attractive and appear link to advertise in a
cord cutting time. This is one of the most volatile
times for selling advertising terrestrial entertainment. You had better try
to stay ahead of what you've got going on. And
how do you do that, Well, you do it by
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creating content that is worth investing in. You you parcel
and put together in pair and package you know, teams
and schools and assets that can command the type of
dollars that you're trying to command if you're if you're
a network. That's how this all works. So to actually
think that that doesn't exist, or that's not what's happening,
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come on, or just unaware, Yeah, it's uh, there's Look,
this is just tip of the iceberg with all this stuff.
It is a out kick. The coverage here Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington with you here on FS are
coming up next some things in the world of sports
we have not had a chance to get to there
called these scraps. There your here on Fox Sports Radio
for all the latest though from around the world of sports.
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We turn it over to Eddie Garcia. Thanks Jonas. NFL
News Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers spoke to the media for
the first time at trainee camp and basically aired out
his grievances with the organization, including naming names of past
players he felt were not treated properly. Roger says that
his issues with the team were not about money, and
he did contemplate retirement, but said quote, I just want
to be involved in conversations that affect my ability to
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do my job and quote. At the Olympics, American swimmer
Caleb Dressel won his second gold in Tokyo. He took
the one ter freestyle, and teammate Bobby Think of the
US won gold in the eight freestyle. As far as
the medal count right now, it is Japan leading right
now with fifteen gold medals. China has fourteen, in the
US with thirteen, but the US does lead in the
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overall medal count with thirty seven baseball games and note
we had the Dodgers shutting out the Giants eight nothing.
Walker Bueller the starter for l A seven shutout endings
and largest three. It's He's now eleven and one on
the season, and the Dodgers moved to back of San
Francisco in the n L West Race. Yankees beat the
Rays three one in ten and Nags New York also
reportedly finalizing the deal the Land All Star outfielder Joey
Gallo from Texas and exchange for six other players. This
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ahead of the dead the trade deadline coming up. On Friday,
Blue Jays and Red Sox played a double header in Boston.
Toronto takes game one four to one, Boston comes back
for a four one win. In the second game, Mets
edge the Braves to one. New York down with a
four game lead on Philadelphia in the n L A's
because the Phillies game against the Nationals was postponed because
of when COVID outbreak on the Washington team. Astro's leaders
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in the a LS beat the Mariners eleven and four.
White Sox on top of the Ale Central lost to
the Royals three two, and the Brewers leading the n
L Central beat the Pirates seven and three, and by
the way, Joints. I also didn't know about the Brewers
hat maybe not a couple of years ago, but maybe
like ten years ago, and finally realized there was an
M and a be that made and I felt like
the biggest idiot I think of the earth. It was
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not knowing it sooner. It was so obvious that yeah,
I didn't. I didn't realize. I just never put two
and two together. I just didn't. Like, I'm still trying to.
I think the mantre re a Expo logo is like
the m and uh it's put together, but it's like
the colors change or whatever. I'm just trying to tell
y'all them Jimmy d J's threw me totally off. I
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just I just saw a commercial. That's where it came from.
I'm not gonna say like this was some striking, you know,
epiphany that that came out of nowhere. It was on
television and they showed cowboy boots and then they turned
them into the logo of Jimmy Dean Sausage. I was like,
oh my gosh, and I grew up on Jimmy Dean Sausages. Yeah.
Well yeah, man, I mean that you popped them joints out,
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like make a little patty put it in the microwave
out there. Man. Yeah, that's how That's how it worked
back in the day for you. By the way, this
update brought to you by Jimmy Dean something. When I
handed out free stuff, trying to hand out free stuff,
but they might saw here this and want me to
represent Jimmy Dean's. By the way, speaking of speaking of sausages,
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coming upsag twelve minutes from now, Apparently somebody had a
few too many before they showed up to training camp.
Story here, we'll get into that story here. Twelve minutes
from now, odd fs are it is out kicked. The
coverage here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox and
now it's time for something we do call this. How
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could you not get to these stories? Are the scraps?
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Danny g to find out what the hell we've missed
so far. D alright, Eddie Garcia mentioned this in the update,
but you two haven't been able to weigh In the Olympics,
where some of America's biggest stars have obviously had some issues,
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not swimmer Caleb Dressel. He shined on the big stage,
Dressel claiming his first individual Olympic gold medal of his
career with two crazy laps of the pool Thursday morning.
They describe it here as furious laps, winning the one
freestyle over defending champion Kyle Chalmers. Dressel dove into the
pool and came up with the lead. He was still
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ahead at the one flip and turned away the Ausse's
bid for a second straight gold. It means a lot,
Dressel said, I knew that wait was on my shoulders.
Dressel's winning time is an Olympic record fort oh two,
just six hundreds of a second ahead of Chalmers, who
got the silver. Take that Australia. Yeah, Now what I
mean what does this turn into? Like I mean, is
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there is there actual money making opportunities for for him post?
You know, like how how old is he? Is he
gonna go again or is this I think he's a
little bit older. Right, mistaken? But like the point being,
like you do you hear about these Olympians like back
in the day, like like the movie Fox Catcher, one
of the scenes was those guys are Olympic medalists. Those
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guys are Olympians and there was just no money post
wrestling career, and so you know, they're you know, having
to scrape together to try and you know, afford lunch
or whatever it is, and these are Olympians And I
just wonder, like, is there nowadays are there enough marketing
opportunity ease for dress? So to be able to go
out and make a living post swimming. Here certainly were
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for Michael Phelps. Yeah, but I don't know that that
exists for everyone. I mean, gold medalists and olympian are
two different things. You can be an Olympian, but if
you're a gold medalist, Olympian, depending on how popular that
sport is, is is going to give you some great opportunities.
And I thought he might be mid twenties. He is
twenty four Jones, so he's young. He looks old. It
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look yeah, look that old. I'm just saying, you know
he's got You know, the chlorine does does things to
your body. Just say it looks older. That alright. Alright,
let's move to the NFL. A guy who does look
a little weathered, Sean Payton. Now he looked a little
weather very a friend of the show, Sean. Hopefully you
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can take a vacation after the season and and get
some man. But he already he took wondering bounty. Yeah
he it looks like he already needs some R and R.
He was really frustrated Wednesday night over the fact that
SAT star receiver Michael Thomas didn't have ankle surgery until June.
He declined to elaborate on why the procedure was delayed. Thomas,
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of course, who fought through injuries all throughout last season.
Peyton said, well, look, it appears we're gonna have to
spend some time without him. It's disappointing and we'll work
through it with some other players that are here. But
the surgery place, and obviously we would have liked that
to happen a lot earlier than later, and quite honestly
it should have. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that, but
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but the whole, the whole approach, which if you you
get to other parts of the story, this was mutually
agreed upon, the approach to all of this, so this
doesn't fall They were slow playing this situation and decided
that this was now the right time to do it,
even though Sean feels as though it was the wrong time.
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There's been some issues with Michael Thomas there. Um there
was a story that came out that you know, he
and his agent had kind of you know, had thrown
out their potential trade from New Orleans. I just wonder
if Michael Thomas looks at this situation and goes, hey,
Drew Brees is gone. Um let me get healthy and yeah,
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like like like, is there an opportunity to go somewhere else?
And doesn't make the most sense to to to want
to continue my career here. If we've got all these
question marks at quarterback, well, I'll tell you, if there's
a question mark with the head coach, you gotta really
start thinking about it, because that's going to be a
part of the conversation that you bring up on on
the guy that you said we're going to bring up
in in a little bit as well. You gotta know
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what your your limitations and your relationship are with the
guy that's calling the shots. Yeah, and so now you
gotta think by by him coming out, Sean Payton coming
out and voicing his dismay of the situation that Michael
Thomas has a few other elements that he needs to
be weighing out other than the quarterback situation. All right,
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And finally, earlier on the show, you Guys spoke about
Chase Young sports braw LaVar through his homie under the bus.
We'll be careful, guys if you also have if you
carry a man purse. A German woman who won a
lottery jack pot of about thirty nine million dollars, said
she carried the ticket in her purse for six weeks
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before discovering that it was a winner. The forty five
year old woman told lotto bayer and officials that she
bought a ticket for the June nine lotto drawing and
she shoved it in her purse for getting to check
it until she decided to play the lotto again. A
month later, the woman discovered that she was the soul
jackpot winner from drawing matching all seven numbers. She won
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thirty nine million dollars. I still get dizzy at the
thought that I carelessly carried almost thirty nine million dollars
around in my purse for several weeks, she said. The
woman plans to give up buying lotto tickets, as the
jackpot will be plenty for her to live comfortably with
her husband and daughter. Yeah. God, that would just give
me anxiety. I mean, she only get half of it,
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or just under under half or something to that. Why
are you gonna be a hater so much? I just
gotta break it down to you the economics. But if
it sounds better when you say thirty nine million, nobody
wants to hear. Oh she's you're only gonna get five
or whatever it is, nineteen five, whatever it is, Uncle
Sam going to get his his his little bit of that.
I mean, that's like, could you imagine though? Here? This
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is exactly why when I do the lotto, I only
do quick picks. I never pick a certain set of
numbers because I could not live with the fact that
the one week I didn't play those certain set of
numbers they hit. You are more likely to get struck
by lightning. I'd rather be struck by lightning than missed
than missed the week that I didn't play my numbers,
I swear to God, I'd rather be I like, how
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you switched it up. You're more likely to get struck
by lightning than win the lottery. But but I thought
that was great, how you switched it up and said
I'd rather get hit struck by lightning than not play
my number. I just like the one week you don't
play and they end up hitting. I could you imagine
having to deal with that the rest of your life.
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My nana is in her nineties and she hasn't stopped
playing her numbers yet. And then just makes you wonder
if you hit and you make thirty nine million what
what are you doing now? You better okay, you better
carry that tradition on after after she needs to pass
that down to you, your your kids. I have never
played the lotto in my life, not one time. Why
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would you come on like I was playing a lotto
every time I went into the gym, in the weight room,
on the football field and damn right basketball tell that
stuff room? Wait what hold on from? He is LaVar
He He's LaVar Heffner. I'm Jonah Knocks. This is Fox
(34:56):
Sport Radio. It is I'll kicked the coverage here on
FS are coming up next. There is a situation in
the NFL. We got a coach versus player feud and
it is very, very entertaining. We'll have that for you
here on Fox Sports Radio. This is out kicked the coverage. Hey,
(35:19):
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(36:01):
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ten minutes from now here on fs are UH. And
then LaVar you and I'll be back for a Friday
edition of this bonanza here. Let's do this, Let's do this,
And usually usually Friday's involved the final hour and a
half of the show, l of of Ore deciding which kind
of meat he's going to go buy at the meat
(36:23):
and the market. I still want to do these turkey legs. Yeah,
we've been hearing this for the long. Yeah, we've been
hearing about turkey legs since the first show we did together.
It's gonna happen. I don't like people adding me, but
if you know where I can get some turkey legs,
I'm in Southern Cow. Or if it's like an order
about order type thing, you know, like get at me,
like at me and my my, you know, messages like yeah,
(36:46):
I want some turkey legs. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I'm gonna do it. I'm I'm I think
I'm gonna do a really good job of it. I'm
a slow coal com first, and then I'm a gorillam
well speaking of turkey legs. Um, well, listen, I'm just
because I'm not I'm not really sure. So Calvin Benjamin
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was trying to make a return to the NFL and
he wanted to play tight end, um, and he was
trying out for the New York Giants, and everybody thought, okay, well, look,
if Tim Tebow can make a return to the NFL,
he's at the play tight end. Before Calvin Benjamin had
a relationship in Carolina. Dave Gettleman was there when he
was drafted, and uh, so he was trying to make
(37:29):
a comeback to the NFL and play tight end and
um first practice on Wednesday, through the bread they didn't
know they were warm ups, like they were in stretches,
and he gets called over by Joe Judge and then
Dave Gettleman joins the conversation. The conversation, conversation gets heated,
and Calvin Benjamin walks off the field and he's cut
(37:51):
by the giants a few hours later and nobody can
figure out what the hell is happening. Um. Yeah, well
according to Kelvin, Yeah, well according to Kelvin Benjamin, Um,
and this is this is his side of it, So
we don't have a lot of a lot of details
from the giant side of it. Between the fat They
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wanted Kelvin Benjamin when he reported back to camp to
come in at two hundred fifty one pounds as a
tight end and m Benjamin showed back up to camp
and he was at two sixty eight, which is big. Yeah,
so he was at two sixty but Benjamin's point was
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or so, so he wait to sixty five. At the
end of camp, they wanted him down to two fifty one,
and then he ended up showing up at two sixty eight.
So he actually gained weight. And they told him or
he's saying that he was it was hustle, but he
was heavier than Tote and so his his comment to
them was I passed all the conditioning tests. So they
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had a conditioning test. He passed it. Um, they didn't
tell him not to show up the next day for practice,
So he shows up there. Then they have the discussion
and then he walks off the field, and like, I
understand that you're fixated on on a number. You want
him to get down to two one, and he actually
shows up to sixty eight. But if he passes the
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conditioning test, isn't that the most important thing? No? Okay,
well what's so wonder? So what is this just because
he couldn't do his Nothing new. They they base what
they believe your performance level can be and what they
feel how you fit on their roster by certain measurables.
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And weight is a major one. It's a main one.
And I wanted to see him play. I really wanted
to see lineman have to do it. Sometimes receivers have
to do it, um sometimes linebackers. I mean there's for
any player at some point in time, if your weight
is this, like they give you your weight in decks,
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your body mass index, and they tell you this is
your reporting weight. Some people they don't do it with
because weight isn't an issue. But some people you get
a reporting weight. Mine was two fifty four every single year,
two fifty four. If I if I come in one
pound over two fifty four, every pound over one two
fifty four, I get fined for it until I get
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to two fifty four like that. That's just like I
understand where where Kelvin is coming from and feeling the
way that he feels like maybe he was being targeted.
But it's nothing new. I mean, he you know, he
was talking about you know, I put on muscle, and
it's like, listen, there's one thing. If you put on muscle,
there's nothing. So did Tim Tebow. He put on seventeen
pounds of muscle. He's still on the roster. Yeah, it's
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uh so, I was. I was bunked. I didn't want
to see if this is gonna work because he is
a big dude. Man. Well, I mean you're not going
to see it now, not in New York. Yeah, apparently
doesn't want any part of the NFL. And I'm gonna
go get some food. All right. It's I'll kick the
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The man himself, the man they call sticks, LaVar Arrington.
What up, my guy? LaVar's happy to be here. We
were just talking during the break about how difficult it
is for us to say rs and w's together. It's
very difficult, Like Rivalry Week, real world. Yeah, I struggle
with that's like interesting, Russell Westbrook. It's it's hard Russell.
(00:48):
I can get Russell Westbrook. Yeah, it's still it's difficult. Yeah,
Rivalry Week it's always the one that got me because
it's two urs. Rivalry Rivalry. Yeah, it's just good man,
because it's the way you have to it, like when
you're enunciating, to enunciate it and do it in quick
form and fashion. It's just it's different, like to form
(01:08):
your mouth like the letters is so Yeah, it's one
of those things, uh, and the things you know, people
that speak through the microphone, you know, have to come
up with something. Yeah. I mean, look, I I can't
remember working in the South and we were doing a
big college football preview and you know, like there's that
game towards the end where it's all the rivals that
go head to head, and so we were doing this
(01:29):
big college football preview and I probably took me a
half hour to cut the line. It's rivalry week. I could.
I don't know what it was. What you just did
is how you do it. You gotta push it out,
what you're like, you gotta push it through your your breath. Yeah, yeah,
you gotta push it out. Man. It's tough man, and
God forbid to try and do that where you're where
you're outside during the cold, trying to do a live report.
(01:51):
That's just not happening. So yeah, all sorts of struggles
for us here that we that we were airing out
here on the air on Fox Sports Radio. The new
is of the day in the NFL was the piping
that Aaron Rodgers gave the Green Bay Packer organization. The
front office pretty much laid waste to everybody there. Lamar
put them all on Nottice. Let everybody know here's my frustrations.
(02:15):
This is what has bothered me. Um, this is what
I wanted to have happened. This is what has not happened.
Here's where we're at, and this is what could possibly
be taking place when in regards to I could be leaving,
I could be out of here, um and uh and
and and this team could be stuck with whatever they're
dealing with. Or I can be more involved, we can
(02:37):
resolve some of these issues, and maybe he sticks around
for a longer period of time. Yeah, that's all I
tell you. So the GM, the GM comes out and
and he speaks and quote gun to curse Guntcus Wednesday,
he's aren't the right to have those discussions. Yeah, I think.
(03:00):
I think what he's done for the organism, have done
for this organization, he deserves at least the conversation every year.
Think about this now, because we're saying this is the
last dance. He's gone, he's out of here. He'd beat
the restructuring to do this. LaVar has been telling y'all,
(03:21):
y'all need to pay attention to your boy. LaVar has
been telling y'all this was a power move. He is
not trying to leave he's trying to stay. So here
we go. He he has earned where where am I here?
He deserves at least the conversation every year, every year,
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meaning not just this year. He didn't say he deserves
to have the conversation this year. He said he deserves
to have the conversation every year about where we are heading,
where he's heading. So to me, what he what? What's
going to happen here? Now here? Here's what's gonna happen?
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Because this was like this is this isn't quite quite
a hostile takeover because hostile take over you generally lay
waste to the top. Guys, go ahead, do you want
to hear your guy, Brian Gooden? Come on here? Here?
Here is the yesterday. I think winning is the most
important thing, right, That's the number one thing when we
(04:24):
make decisions, whether it's personnel, whether it's mad and it's
coaching staff, whether it's Mark and with some of the
things he's doing, I think there's a lot of opinions.
There's a lot of different angles, you know, certainly from personality.
You know, I got sour cap, coaching, scouting, all that
kind of stuff. I think it's just kind of continuing
to incorporate those things with Aaron. I think he's earned
that seat at the table to have a voice. He
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always has head a voice. I think it's just kind
of incorporating that interesting well, he he put him in
the corner and incorporating the voice that after what Aaron
Rodgers did to them on that chess board yesterday, he
put them in check. It ain't made yet, but he
did put them in a strong check and they're gonna
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lose like a strong piece, like something's going to come
off of the board with what Aaron Rodgers did to
them yesterday. So now, really, because you can't sit there
if you're if you're Mark Murphy, if you're gonna kiss,
I'm not gonna say it's right his name right, So
so forgive me, okay, b g alright. If those two
guys don't sit there and and really get behind this,
(05:32):
you're going to look foolish because you do not have
the resume, You do not have the bones the foundation
to be able to stand up to what that man
presented in that pressor yesterday. You would be best served
to stay away from turning what he said yesterday into
(05:52):
a debate or into a a confrontational type of exchange
you will lose. So now you hear that those sound bites,
you you hear the quotes, they are they are now
in the corner and they are forced with their backs
against the wall to have to figure out how to
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reconcile this situation with Aaron Rodgers. And that's all he's wanted.
Either you reconcile this and you give me my respect
and we move forward, or I'm gonna bloat his bitch
up and I'm gonna roll up out of here, and
y'all are going to be left with the carnage. Is
what's left for not giving me what I wanted in
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this this situation that exists. And so when Rogers was
breaking down just sort of the timeline of the events,
one of the discussions that came up at the press
conference was Draft Day, because it was on Draft Day
when all of a sudden, there was a report from
Adam Schefter that Rogers was unhappy and he wanted out
of Green Bay. And so Rodgers was asked yesterday about
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Draft Day, and here's what he had to say. This
wasn't you know, a draft day thing. This was started
with the conversation in February and I just expressed, you know,
my desire to be more involved in conversation directly affecting
my job. Now here's where this gets interesting, because Paul
Allen Um, who was the voice of the Minnesota Vikings
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um and he's a big you know, a big time
voice and and personality in in Minneapolis and does great
work there. But he reported that and I had heard
this same thing, and I heard this separately, but he
had reported on the day of the draft that Aaron
Rodgers was told that he would have been that he
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was going to be traded by the Green Bay Packers
and that it was the forty because that's what they
wanted to do, yes, And and so that report came out,
And there's also that the story is surfacing again that
the Packers wanted to trade Roger. And part of his frustration,
and this is what I had heard, and I heard
(08:03):
this from somebody completely separate, but part of Rogers frustration
was the fact that he was under the impression that
they had a plan, that the Packers were going to
trade him, that the forty Niners were the team that
were the team being discussed that he would be traded to.
And then all of a sudden, the Packers backed away
from the trade, and Rogers looked around, going what the
(08:23):
hell is going on here? Like like you don't even
like that? What is the what is the director? You
have more context? Like think about it. Why would Aaron
Rodgers want to go to the San Francisco forty Niners
and leave Green Bay? You know why? Because he didn't
have a place at the table. So if you're not
going to allow me to be at the table, then
(08:44):
you at least like San Franciscan And you didn't even
you weren't even able to get a deal done when
there was potentially a deal that was there, and you
didn't want to get that deal done. You wanted to
get it, yes, but you didn't. One day were getting
cold And the reason I think they got cold feet
is because look at it this way. At that point
(09:04):
in time, the forty Niners had already moved up in
the draft with the Dolphins. If you're the Green Bay Packers,
wouldn't the assets that were there before you made the
trade with Miami been more appealing because they gave up
a first round pick in and a first round pick in.
If I'm Green Bay, I don't care about the number
(09:25):
three overall, pick I'm not taking a quarterback. I got
Jordan Love right, So so this is yes, question mark right,
like you like I have Geordan Love right. So yeah.
So this whole, this whole discussion, you just look at
every possible scenario that was there, and it just screams
(09:46):
of man, Green Bay had opportunities here, and it just
they continued to either kick the can down the road
or completely missed the can and and and twist their
ankle because they just they didn't know what direction they
wanted to go in. And that I think gets to
the base of this all, which is his frustration with
the way he's saying. He's he basically told y'all yesterday
(10:10):
that this this whole operation isn't being ran in the
most professional man like if Washington told you back in
the day. You were in a similar spot with Washington
and they told you, all right, so here's the deal.
We're gonna try and get a deal done. We're gonna
try and get a trade done, and we've got a
team locked up, and you're like, Okay, well, at least
I know that that we've got this out of the
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way and I can focus on getting to my next
destination and figuring this out, and then all of a
sudden they come back to you and go, yeah, about
that trade just wasn't able to happen. To be pissed,
it would be. But but here's the thing. If I
go into trade, it's just a trade. If Aaron Rodgers
goes in the trade, you have detonated. You have you
(10:51):
have basically shorted the stock of the Green Bay packs.
So when you're making a decision like that, when I
never knew that the Jay's and Jimmy Dean we're we're
cowboy boots anyway, that's random. Uh, I'm just telling you,
is that right? It's like I didn't realize that Brewers
logo was AMT until like three years ago. I knew that.
(11:14):
I didn't know that, bro, you thought you knew that
the Jimmy Dean Sausage Jay's we were boots. Yeah, I'm sorry,
I'm late. I am so late to the party on
that one. It's so random. All you think, where's where's
the Crilling show? You know what's on my mind right now.
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But but here's the thing. Aaron Rodgers has now put
so much context that you're looking at a Green Bay
like these dudes are foolish, Like what have they been thinking? Yeah,
it's so now they got to try to make good
(11:57):
on making Aaron happy, because it's a like Aaron almost
just put them in They're in career suicide watch mode
right now. Yeah, because and and look, we were talking
about this yesterday and you made the point there's a
big difference between if the Patriots walk away from Tom
Brady and he rattles off, you know, a couple more
(12:19):
super bowls and as a ton of succession, Yeah, of course,
because you have a built in success equity as the
Patriots organization, because you have won super Bowls and you've
got a lot going on there. And you have a leadership,
right you have you have a a head coach that
can stand up in the wake of Tom Brady leaving.
You have a owner and that can stand up and
(12:41):
lead in the wake of Tom Brady leaving. What do
you have in Green Bay? And look, Matt Laflour has
done a great job as head coach the first two
years exactly, And and and that's that's the issue. And
and one of the other things that was talked about
and I heard about this. I remember where I was
when I heard this at in Super Bowl in Atlanta,
(13:03):
UM Patriots rams at Radio ROW. I was talking with
two people, UM with NFL ties UM there in front
of the Fox Sports Radio Radio rowe booth and they
had the big set up there and they told me, yeah,
Aaron Rodgers had no input on the Matt Lafleur hiring none.
They didn't. They didn't even consult him. There was no
(13:25):
discussion with him. There was no hey, you know, what
do you think about this? And and here's And some
people might say, oh, well, you know, why would they
That's dangerous. You want to know how, you want to
know how, you want to How Bruce Arians ended up
in Arizona. A lot of people don't know this. Bruce
Arians was one of the final two candidates for the
Chicago Bears coaching job, and the Bears went to Jay
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Cutler and said, who do you want to go with,
Bruce Arians or Mark Trestman. Cutler lean to Trestman and
that was an absolute diaper fire and Bruce Arians. Bruce
Arians went onto Arizona pretty good. Damn right, damn righty
did and then later parlay that into a gig with
Tampa Bay. Now he's got a super bath a pretty
(14:09):
good but but they consulted with Jake Cutler about the
coaching gig and Aaron Rodgers neverone was even consulted about.
That's nothing wrong with consulting players about decision. What do
you think the best organizations are ran by people who
are employees that take ownership over the job that they're doing,
not guys that show up to do their job and
(14:30):
and punch out and go home and when they're done. Know,
the best employees are the ones that punch in and
take ownership over their job. You know why, because they
are going to take and go the extra mow. They
are going to have extra accountability, They're they're going to
have a measure of pride and what it is that
they're doing. They're not just trying to get a check.
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And I think that when there's something to be said
about when you have a high level employee that understands it.
By the way, happy is to be a minority share
owner of the basketball team. So you have ownership qualities
in this employee that you have. He can give you.
You can learn from players about what's going on with
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your team personnel wise, culturally speaking, there are you know
how much money do you think Aaron Rodgers makes right
now or could make to go into a company and
talk to them about culture, build out, inspiration, accountability of
Tom Brady. How much do you think they would get
paid just to go in and talk for an hour
(15:35):
about what it is to have teamwork, winning teamwork and
an environment that's that's conducive to winning. How much you
think they would command It's a lot, But yet in
your own organization, you can't command the respect for them
to talk to you about what personnel moves that may
take place, what you think what could work best. When
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you got a guy that you are basing the value
of your stock, you're basing the value of your franchise
off of that person in specific particular. But you can't
have a conversation with him about roster moves, about coaching moves,
about anything, marketing, advertising. You can't state how how much
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do you think State Farm pays him to be a
part of State Farm. You don't want to leverage that
brand away. State Farm is leveraging that brand for your
your franchise. All he did was exposed more conversation about
how many misses are taking place with how you're underutilizing
a guy like that, He's a tremendous asset and you're
(16:46):
not even utilizing it. How does that work? And you
say the whole thing is to win. You want to
just win, You want to win. But how are you
just winning when the biggest piece of your puzzle to win.
It's confused as to why he's not being consulted at
every turn four quarterbacks, or for a coach, for a
draft pick, for for free agents. Why is that such
(17:08):
an issue? And now that people see it and are
are getting the opportunity to catch up to where Aaron
Rodgers is and understand it, it's like a mind blowing
epiphany that's taking place for everybody who has not looked
at it this way. It's I'll kick the coverage here
on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you
here on FS are coming up next. We got a
(17:29):
major accusation in the world of football. We will see
if there's anything to it. It's yours next here, I'll
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Sports Radio. Jonas knocks, I wish people how crazy Jonas
(17:50):
Knocks really is Listen Jonah knocks LaVar Arrington here on
Fox Sports Radio. Does it have a time? The name
of the show? You you know, you should have a
pot has and it's just hit me. This this is
just this revelation is just hit me. It should be
entitled Visiting the Mind of Jonas Knox. You know it
(18:12):
might have been born today. Yeah, I just think about things.
I just don't know that you would have a job
that like after each podcast. I would be concerned if
you had a job once. Oh yeah, that that's when
you do after you win the lottery, because then you're
not worried about money, but you would make a ton
of money off of giving the thoughts that are in
your mind. Yeah, it's too raw, Like you want the truth,
(18:37):
you can't handle the truth. That's like, that's what's going on.
Like when I hear the stuff you say during breaks,
that's what comes to months. You know, there there is
an accusation being had in the world of sports. I
don't know if you saw this, but you know how
Texas and Oklahoma are thinking about going to the SEC
(18:59):
waiting on a prove on that UM Big twelve commissioner
Bob Bowlsby is claiming, yeah, that he has documented evidence
that ESPN tried to encourage unnamed and unnamed conference. Is
CBS Sports is reporting it's the American Conference Athletic Conference.
(19:20):
UH tried to encourage them, uh to take Big twelve
teams from the Big twelve to throw a wrench into
the the Big twelve and and everything. Now, ESPN has
denied that they obviously have partnered and have a relationship
when it comes to yeah, listen, man, it felt a
(19:41):
little rushed, It felt a little out of the blue.
Oh so your top two teams all of a sudden
want to go to the SEC. Wait what what? What
happened here? So it does feel like reason incentive, some
something that motivates or you know, kind of gets the
thing move and gets it rolling. There are there, listen,
(20:02):
to create to create these mega mega conferences is to
create mega expenditures and mega billing. That's what that's that's
what it's all about. I mean, you are creating a
conference where you can command more money being spent and
more money being generated. And here here's here's the thing.
(20:25):
And this is why I bring it because you mentioned,
you know, uh, inside the mind and television is a
major part of that. And that's but no, that's, as
you mentioned, inside the mind of me, and I don't
I don't know me personally. I don't have any evidence
of this, all right, So I'm not I'm not making
an accusation here. I'm not not claiming anything. I don't
have any evidence of this stuff. You know, Bulsby sends
(20:45):
a season assist to ESPN because he's claiming they were
involved and trying to tear apart the conference. All all
say is this, if we want to go inside the mind,
if I were a betting man, I would say that
probably makes some sense like that that because when TV
and you just touched on it, when TV money is involved,
(21:07):
it's it's astronomical money. And and so look, there there's
a lot of people that feel like part of the
reason why the Tim Donnahey situation in the NBA didn't
get as much as as much heat or maybe as
much pushback initially because the report the story had been out,
there were rumors that have been out there is because
(21:29):
the NBA was waiting on their TV contract to get
done before they acknowledge that there was an issue with
Tim Donahey. Like there's like there's stories like that all
over the place. So in in my mind, inside my
sick and twisted mind, I look at this and I go,
I don't have proof that this is true, but it
would not surprise me whatsoever if a network got involved
(21:51):
and and and had some sort of an impact on
a conference falling apart of the seams because they had
a vested interest in it, and Espen has a vested
interest in the SEC. I mean, what how would you
like for me to respond to that? In the words
about LaVar. There's a lot to impact. There's a lot
(22:12):
to unpack there. But what I'm trying to say to
you is by not saying it is that you're spot on.
What would it surprise you know? Just in fact not
not only would it not surprise me, That's probably what's
going on. The interest is too high. It looks amazing.
(22:34):
The interest is way too high for them not to
want If this is the perfect time to try to
lure different teams into different conferences so that you can
align them and continue to organize them in a way
where you can make your your station, your channel, your
(22:57):
network more attractive and appear link to advertise in a
cord cutting time. This is one of the most volatile
times for selling advertising terrestrial entertainment. You had better try
to stay ahead of what you've got going on. And
how do you do that, Well, you do it by
(23:20):
creating content that is worth investing in. You you parcel
and put together in pair and package you know, teams
and schools and assets that can command the type of
dollars that you're trying to command if you're if you're
a network. That's how this all works. So to actually
think that that doesn't exist, or that's not what's happening,
(23:42):
come on, or just unaware, Yeah, it's uh, there's Look,
this is just tip of the iceberg with all this stuff.
It is a out kick. The coverage here Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington with you here on FS are
coming up next some things in the world of sports
we have not had a chance to get to there
called these scraps. There your here on Fox Sports Radio
for all the latest though from around the world of sports.
(24:04):
We turn it over to Eddie Garcia. Thanks Jonas. NFL
News Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers spoke to the media for
the first time at trainee camp and basically aired out
his grievances with the organization, including naming names of past
players he felt were not treated properly. Roger says that
his issues with the team were not about money, and
he did contemplate retirement, but said quote, I just want
to be involved in conversations that affect my ability to
(24:25):
do my job and quote. At the Olympics, American swimmer
Caleb Dressel won his second gold in Tokyo. He took
the one ter freestyle, and teammate Bobby Think of the
US won gold in the eight freestyle. As far as
the medal count right now, it is Japan leading right
now with fifteen gold medals. China has fourteen, in the
US with thirteen, but the US does lead in the
(24:47):
overall medal count with thirty seven baseball games and note
we had the Dodgers shutting out the Giants eight nothing.
Walker Bueller the starter for l A seven shutout endings
and largest three. It's He's now eleven and one on
the season, and the Dodgers moved to back of San
Francisco in the n L West Race. Yankees beat the
Rays three one in ten and Nags New York also
reportedly finalizing the deal the Land All Star outfielder Joey
Gallo from Texas and exchange for six other players. This
(25:09):
ahead of the dead the trade deadline coming up. On Friday,
Blue Jays and Red Sox played a double header in Boston.
Toronto takes game one four to one, Boston comes back
for a four one win. In the second game, Mets
edge the Braves to one. New York down with a
four game lead on Philadelphia in the n L A's
because the Phillies game against the Nationals was postponed because
of when COVID outbreak on the Washington team. Astro's leaders
(25:30):
in the a LS beat the Mariners eleven and four.
White Sox on top of the Ale Central lost to
the Royals three two, and the Brewers leading the n
L Central beat the Pirates seven and three, and by
the way, Joints. I also didn't know about the Brewers
hat maybe not a couple of years ago, but maybe
like ten years ago, and finally realized there was an
M and a be that made and I felt like
the biggest idiot I think of the earth. It was
(25:51):
not knowing it sooner. It was so obvious that yeah,
I didn't. I didn't realize. I just never put two
and two together. I just didn't. Like, I'm still trying to.
I think the mantre re a Expo logo is like
the m and uh it's put together, but it's like
the colors change or whatever. I'm just trying to tell
y'all them Jimmy d J's threw me totally off. I
(26:13):
just I just saw a commercial. That's where it came from.
I'm not gonna say like this was some striking, you know,
epiphany that that came out of nowhere. It was on
television and they showed cowboy boots and then they turned
them into the logo of Jimmy Dean Sausage. I was like,
oh my gosh, and I grew up on Jimmy Dean Sausages. Yeah.
Well yeah, man, I mean that you popped them joints out,
(26:36):
like make a little patty put it in the microwave
out there. Man. Yeah, that's how That's how it worked
back in the day for you. By the way, this
update brought to you by Jimmy Dean something. When I
handed out free stuff, trying to hand out free stuff,
but they might saw here this and want me to
represent Jimmy Dean's. By the way, speaking of speaking of sausages,
(26:58):
coming upsag twelve minutes from now, Apparently somebody had a
few too many before they showed up to training camp.
Story here, we'll get into that story here. Twelve minutes
from now, odd fs are it is out kicked. The
coverage here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox and
now it's time for something we do call this. How
(27:20):
could you not get to these stories? Are the scraps?
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Danny g to find out what the hell we've missed
so far. D alright, Eddie Garcia mentioned this in the update,
but you two haven't been able to weigh In the Olympics,
where some of America's biggest stars have obviously had some issues,
(27:40):
not swimmer Caleb Dressel. He shined on the big stage,
Dressel claiming his first individual Olympic gold medal of his
career with two crazy laps of the pool Thursday morning.
They describe it here as furious laps, winning the one
freestyle over defending champion Kyle Chalmers. Dressel dove into the
pool and came up with the lead. He was still
(28:01):
ahead at the one flip and turned away the Ausse's
bid for a second straight gold. It means a lot,
Dressel said, I knew that wait was on my shoulders.
Dressel's winning time is an Olympic record fort oh two,
just six hundreds of a second ahead of Chalmers, who
got the silver. Take that Australia. Yeah, Now what I
mean what does this turn into? Like I mean, is
(28:22):
there is there actual money making opportunities for for him post?
You know, like how how old is he? Is he
gonna go again or is this I think he's a
little bit older. Right, mistaken? But like the point being,
like you do you hear about these Olympians like back
in the day, like like the movie Fox Catcher, one
of the scenes was those guys are Olympic medalists. Those
(28:43):
guys are Olympians and there was just no money post
wrestling career, and so you know, they're you know, having
to scrape together to try and you know, afford lunch
or whatever it is, and these are Olympians And I
just wonder, like, is there nowadays are there enough marketing
opportunity ease for dress? So to be able to go
out and make a living post swimming. Here certainly were
(29:06):
for Michael Phelps. Yeah, but I don't know that that
exists for everyone. I mean, gold medalists and olympian are
two different things. You can be an Olympian, but if
you're a gold medalist, Olympian, depending on how popular that
sport is, is is going to give you some great opportunities.
And I thought he might be mid twenties. He is
twenty four Jones, so he's young. He looks old. It
(29:26):
look yeah, look that old. I'm just saying, you know
he's got You know, the chlorine does does things to
your body. Just say it looks older. That alright. Alright,
let's move to the NFL. A guy who does look
a little weathered, Sean Payton. Now he looked a little
weather very a friend of the show, Sean. Hopefully you
(29:50):
can take a vacation after the season and and get
some man. But he already he took wondering bounty. Yeah
he it looks like he already needs some R and R.
He was really frustrated Wednesday night over the fact that
SAT star receiver Michael Thomas didn't have ankle surgery until June.
He declined to elaborate on why the procedure was delayed. Thomas,
(30:14):
of course, who fought through injuries all throughout last season.
Peyton said, well, look, it appears we're gonna have to
spend some time without him. It's disappointing and we'll work
through it with some other players that are here. But
the surgery place, and obviously we would have liked that
to happen a lot earlier than later, and quite honestly
it should have. Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that, but
(30:36):
but the whole, the whole approach, which if you you
get to other parts of the story, this was mutually
agreed upon, the approach to all of this, so this
doesn't fall They were slow playing this situation and decided
that this was now the right time to do it,
even though Sean feels as though it was the wrong time.
(30:57):
There's been some issues with Michael Thomas there. Um there
was a story that came out that you know, he
and his agent had kind of you know, had thrown
out their potential trade from New Orleans. I just wonder
if Michael Thomas looks at this situation and goes, hey,
Drew Brees is gone. Um let me get healthy and yeah,
(31:17):
like like like, is there an opportunity to go somewhere else?
And doesn't make the most sense to to to want
to continue my career here. If we've got all these
question marks at quarterback, well, I'll tell you, if there's
a question mark with the head coach, you gotta really
start thinking about it, because that's going to be a
part of the conversation that you bring up on on
the guy that you said we're going to bring up
in in a little bit as well. You gotta know
(31:39):
what your your limitations and your relationship are with the
guy that's calling the shots. Yeah, and so now you
gotta think by by him coming out, Sean Payton coming
out and voicing his dismay of the situation that Michael
Thomas has a few other elements that he needs to
be weighing out other than the quarterback situation. All right,
(32:00):
And finally, earlier on the show, you Guys spoke about
Chase Young sports braw LaVar through his homie under the bus.
We'll be careful, guys if you also have if you
carry a man purse. A German woman who won a
lottery jack pot of about thirty nine million dollars, said
she carried the ticket in her purse for six weeks
(32:21):
before discovering that it was a winner. The forty five
year old woman told lotto bayer and officials that she
bought a ticket for the June nine lotto drawing and
she shoved it in her purse for getting to check
it until she decided to play the lotto again. A
month later, the woman discovered that she was the soul
jackpot winner from drawing matching all seven numbers. She won
(32:42):
thirty nine million dollars. I still get dizzy at the
thought that I carelessly carried almost thirty nine million dollars
around in my purse for several weeks, she said. The
woman plans to give up buying lotto tickets, as the
jackpot will be plenty for her to live comfortably with
her husband and daughter. Yeah. God, that would just give
me anxiety. I mean, she only get half of it,
(33:06):
or just under under half or something to that. Why
are you gonna be a hater so much? I just
gotta break it down to you the economics. But if
it sounds better when you say thirty nine million, nobody
wants to hear. Oh she's you're only gonna get five
or whatever it is, nineteen five, whatever it is, Uncle
Sam going to get his his his little bit of that.
I mean, that's like, could you imagine though? Here? This
(33:28):
is exactly why when I do the lotto, I only
do quick picks. I never pick a certain set of
numbers because I could not live with the fact that
the one week I didn't play those certain set of
numbers they hit. You are more likely to get struck
by lightning. I'd rather be struck by lightning than missed
than missed the week that I didn't play my numbers,
I swear to God, I'd rather be I like, how
(33:49):
you switched it up. You're more likely to get struck
by lightning than win the lottery. But but I thought
that was great, how you switched it up and said
I'd rather get hit struck by lightning than not play
my number. I just like the one week you don't
play and they end up hitting. I could you imagine
having to deal with that the rest of your life.
(34:11):
My nana is in her nineties and she hasn't stopped
playing her numbers yet. And then just makes you wonder
if you hit and you make thirty nine million what
what are you doing now? You better okay, you better
carry that tradition on after after she needs to pass
that down to you, your your kids. I have never
played the lotto in my life, not one time. Why
(34:32):
would you come on like I was playing a lotto
every time I went into the gym, in the weight room,
on the football field and damn right basketball tell that
stuff room? Wait what hold on from? He is LaVar
He He's LaVar Heffner. I'm Jonah Knocks. This is Fox
(34:56):
Sport Radio. It is I'll kicked the coverage here on
FS are coming up next. There is a situation in
the NFL. We got a coach versus player feud and
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here on Fox Sports Radio. This is out kicked the coverage. Hey,
(35:19):
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(36:01):
these Fox Sports Radio Philly. It's coming up in about
ten minutes from now here on fs are UH. And
then LaVar you and I'll be back for a Friday
edition of this bonanza here. Let's do this, Let's do this,
And usually usually Friday's involved the final hour and a
half of the show, l of of Ore deciding which kind
of meat he's going to go buy at the meat
(36:23):
and the market. I still want to do these turkey legs. Yeah,
we've been hearing this for the long. Yeah, we've been
hearing about turkey legs since the first show we did together.
It's gonna happen. I don't like people adding me, but
if you know where I can get some turkey legs,
I'm in Southern Cow. Or if it's like an order
about order type thing, you know, like get at me,
like at me and my my, you know, messages like yeah,
(36:46):
I want some turkey legs. Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I'm gonna do it. I'm I'm I think
I'm gonna do a really good job of it. I'm
a slow coal com first, and then I'm a gorillam
well speaking of turkey legs. Um, well, listen, I'm just
because I'm not I'm not really sure. So Calvin Benjamin
(37:07):
was trying to make a return to the NFL and
he wanted to play tight end, um, and he was
trying out for the New York Giants, and everybody thought, okay, well, look,
if Tim Tebow can make a return to the NFL,
he's at the play tight end. Before Calvin Benjamin had
a relationship in Carolina. Dave Gettleman was there when he
was drafted, and uh, so he was trying to make
(37:29):
a comeback to the NFL and play tight end and
um first practice on Wednesday, through the bread they didn't
know they were warm ups, like they were in stretches,
and he gets called over by Joe Judge and then
Dave Gettleman joins the conversation. The conversation, conversation gets heated,
and Calvin Benjamin walks off the field and he's cut
(37:51):
by the giants a few hours later and nobody can
figure out what the hell is happening. Um. Yeah, well
according to Kelvin, Yeah, well according to Kelvin Benjamin, Um,
and this is this is his side of it, So
we don't have a lot of a lot of details
from the giant side of it. Between the fat They
(38:12):
wanted Kelvin Benjamin when he reported back to camp to
come in at two hundred fifty one pounds as a
tight end and m Benjamin showed back up to camp
and he was at two sixty eight, which is big. Yeah,
so he was at two sixty but Benjamin's point was
(38:34):
or so, so he wait to sixty five. At the
end of camp, they wanted him down to two fifty one,
and then he ended up showing up at two sixty eight.
So he actually gained weight. And they told him or
he's saying that he was it was hustle, but he
was heavier than Tote and so his his comment to
them was I passed all the conditioning tests. So they
(38:57):
had a conditioning test. He passed it. Um, they didn't
tell him not to show up the next day for practice,
So he shows up there. Then they have the discussion
and then he walks off the field, and like, I
understand that you're fixated on on a number. You want
him to get down to two one, and he actually
shows up to sixty eight. But if he passes the
(39:17):
conditioning test, isn't that the most important thing? No? Okay,
well what's so wonder? So what is this just because
he couldn't do his Nothing new. They they base what
they believe your performance level can be and what they
feel how you fit on their roster by certain measurables.
(39:39):
And weight is a major one. It's a main one.
And I wanted to see him play. I really wanted
to see lineman have to do it. Sometimes receivers have
to do it, um sometimes linebackers. I mean there's for
any player at some point in time, if your weight
is this, like they give you your weight in decks,
(40:00):
your body mass index, and they tell you this is
your reporting weight. Some people they don't do it with
because weight isn't an issue. But some people you get
a reporting weight. Mine was two fifty four every single year,
two fifty four. If I if I come in one
pound over two fifty four, every pound over one two
fifty four, I get fined for it until I get
(40:21):
to two fifty four like that. That's just like I
understand where where Kelvin is coming from and feeling the
way that he feels like maybe he was being targeted.
But it's nothing new. I mean, he you know, he
was talking about you know, I put on muscle, and
it's like, listen, there's one thing. If you put on muscle,
there's nothing. So did Tim Tebow. He put on seventeen
pounds of muscle. He's still on the roster. Yeah, it's
(40:41):
uh so, I was. I was bunked. I didn't want
to see if this is gonna work because he is
a big dude. Man. Well, I mean you're not going
to see it now, not in New York. Yeah, apparently
doesn't want any part of the NFL. And I'm gonna
go get some food. All right. It's I'll kick the
cover here very Friday Extravaganza Here at fs ARE be
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(41:03):
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