08/02/2021 - Hour 3 - Better Veneers

Jonas and Geoff continue their conversation about the importance of the offensive line and discuss where Baker Mayfield stands with a new deal. Matt Nagy had some comments about the popularity of Nick Foles and Danny G. delivers The Scraps. Plus, the fellas debate whether or not to research when gambling for fun. 

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will take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern times six o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Radio.
And we will do so with a man who can
wax poetically about the offensive line position like nobody else
other on radio. He is none other than the great
Jeff Schwartz. I am glad to be here. I'm going
to talk football. We have game week and yes, the

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offensive line is a passion of mine. I I see
this all the time on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz, Jeff
with a G. By the way, I went to this
thing this weekend in Vegas and they said it was
on a list. Okay, very cool, Right, I'm on a
list and they said first names. I said, oh, Jeff
with the G, Jeff Schwartz. She finds my name and says, oh,
gee off And I just said Jeff like three seconds ago,

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and my wife was there and my wife I guess
it could be and my wife just said, oh no,
it's uh, I said. She said, when we're fancy, we
say g off, like my wife just like I literally
said Jeff and she said gee off immediately after I
said Jeff. And I was like no, no, no, Jeff
um And so yeah, offensive line. But I say on

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Twitter at Jef Schwartz Jeff with the G that um,
I will argue about a lot of things. One thing
that I will. You will not find me arguing about
his offensive line player. I am correct. I want to
talk about offensive lineman. You are not allowed to tell
me whether or not you agree. You can, you know,
you allowed to tell me whether you agree or disagree,
but there's no arguing. I do this for a living.
This is like my passion, and you're not going to

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tell me whether I'm right or wrong on a lot
of this stuff. Well that's why I thought it would
be fun to do that, because I just I don't
think that position groups gets enough love. I know PFF
does their grading system, and I've heard like, where do
you stand on PFF, because I've heard mixed reviews on
how they sort of track and monitor and rank some
of these players. Well, they're definitely good for our business

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because they give us a data point right to discuss,
and um, I think more often than not, there in
the correct ballpark, right. I mean it's very rare that
I think on any player that we say, hey, this
player sucks and PFF has them is the best player
in the you know, in the position in the position, right.

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I just it's very rare to mean that that happens.
I think they're mostly in the ballpark, you do. I do.
I disagree when they have one player, you know, fifth
and one player of fifteen, and I think they should
be flipped. Sure, But for the most part, I think
they're on the right track. And I really think that
PFF is helpful when it comes to Hall of Fame
voting for offensive alignment, because you will have a data

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point to help make an argument for against the guy.
More often I think for a guy because you know,
our offensive our position. Again, for for the Hall of Fame,
it's very tough, right, I mean you have to trust
the presenter basically and said, hey, this guy was good
and and and the way our Pro Bowl voting is
now and all pro voting. Sometimes I don't really agree
with especially Pro Bowl voting all pros typically in the ballpark. Um,

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they provide us a data point, and it's very helpful,
I think when we talk about offense time and get
in general, UM, pretty helpful. Well, there's no because there's
no stat line, there's no box score, so people can't
go to a stat and look at it. So so
basically you're relying on reputation around the league, and you're
relying on whether or not a back had a thousand

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yards season or or how many times you get like
given up a sack. Like those are really the only
things you can go by. There's a lot of guys
out there that just sort of fly under the right,
like how long did it take? I think Alan Fannaka
is getting in this year? How long did that take?
I mean he Alan, It took Alan Fanaka so long
he became a marathon runner. Between when he retired and

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got it and got into the Hall of Fame, he
became a marathon runners a side job after he left
the NFL. The NFL Hall of Fame allows five guys
in every year, and I've been to the opinion that
it needs to be more like baseball, where they just
let a number of guys in the qualify for that year.
Right baseball, where the vote you vote for ten players
every year. If you're you can vote for less than

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ten if you would like um, but you vote for
up to ten players. And if you think five that
year or qualified, then you vote for five. If you
think ten and you vote for ten and you get
seventy five or eight percent of votes, then you're in.
And in football, you know the offensive line position, I
think some years they're like, we're gonna take one offensive
linement this year, and that's what happens is it just
pushes guys, you know out over over a couple of

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years when they're you know, they're they're very qualified to
be in in the first try. And and that's what
we get to so I have, you know, NFL Hall
of Fame advocates will argue that their system is great
and they shouldn't change it. But Joe I always felt like, again,
some years guys are first, should be first bell all
of famers, but aren't because there's just too many Hall
of Famers in that class. Yeah, I just I don't

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like putting I don't like putting a limit on that stuff.
I just I don't like it. I don't think that
it's and and one of the things that bothers me
is when they'll say something like like a Hall of
Fame vote comes up, and and somebody will say, yeah, well,
you know he's All of Famer, just not the first ballot,
not not not a first year Hall of Famer. Well
what is it? What is he going to get better
in year two of eligibility? Like is that? Is that

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what we're doing? And it's like, it's just dumb. You know,
I'll be in like year eleven. Um. No, I mean,
I've got to the point where I think sometimes it's
just to be a yes or no right at one
time vote either you're in it or not. And now
I get I get why they do it this right, right,
the spectacle of each year having a Hall of Fame.
But you know, we're gonna talk about the Hall of
Fame game this week, but it needs to be either

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you're in or out. Like I think Eli's Hall of Famer,
he's either in or he's out. And obviously it'll be
a couple of years, so he's actually up for for vote,
and I don't think he'll get in the first year. Um,
but I do think that doing it where a kind
of a percent of the vote feels like a better system, honestly.
But like the NFL wants five guys every year, they
get their five guys every year. Now, let me tell

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you something. Here's what you need to do, all right,
and you need to do this for offensive lineman everywhere.
All right. So now I mentioned that I had a
couple of brothers who played offensive line. I've sent you
a picture of my nephew that plays offensive line. Uh,
he's six seven. Every time I shake his hand, it's like,
you know, Verne Troyer, you know, greeting Andre the Giant,

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Like it's just he's just he's a massive, massive kid,
really good kid. He's an aspiring offensive lineman going into
a senior season in high school. Here's what you need
to do. You need to come up with a statistical
some some sort of a stat driven either a box
score or something when it comes to offensive lineman, something

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statistical so that you can quantify how good an offensive
lineman is, because most people just want to look at stats.
And and if you're gonna play k to the lazy
crowd that just needs a box score and just needs
a number next to a name so they know how
good somebody is. You've got to come up with some
sort of a statistical system to quantify quality offensive line

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play in the NFL. Jeff, Yeah, I'm just not smart
enough for that. Come on, man, come on, and and
and and here's the thing. I thought about doing some
sort of ideal especially and I thought about doing this.
I've talked to many companies about this. Gambling companies. Is
an algorithm based off offense and basically offensive defensive line

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player where you like, there's a system set up, Okay,
you know, you put these four numbers together that that
you like, and you end up, you know, coming up
with a system that hits a certain amount of times
based off of you know, y'ard you know, like you know, uh,
yards per carry pressure rate. UM. There's a good stat
basically that is yards before contact that kind of tells

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you how your offensive line is blocking. Right. If you
have more yards before contact, that means your offensive line
and theories opening up bigger holes for you, right. And
so you coming up with some sort of algorithm um
to just gamble on games based off the offensive defensive lines. Um. Again,
I'm just not smart enough for that. Well. I mean, look,
if we're gonna you know, just call it wood. I mean,

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you can go through the NFL and look at if
we just want to look at rushing, like, you can
go through the NFL and just look at your top
ten teams when it comes to rushing the football. Majority
of those teams are playoff teams. I mean that's just
and and that's you know, the strength is effensive line.
But it's really interesting because there's a couple of ways
to look at that, right, and I like using the
efficiency numbers more than looking at just kind of total rushing,

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as you can make the argument that those teams are
have more yards, right and are more efficient because they're
often up in games and the fourth quarters running the football. Um.
And that's why officiating is so important because if you
look at I can pull up a lot of the
rushing numbers from last year. Um, you know, the best
rushing teams. I don't think we're we're run run first teams, right,

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Like the Baltimore, Tennessee and Cleveland were the top three. Yeah,
and you and those those teams are not winning Super
Bowls right now because of their offense. Honestly, well, really
the brown and the Browns because the quarterback. But you know,
like the Ravens offense. To me, wow, i'd take out
Baker Mayfield. You're gonna side swipe them in traffic like that,
and just to carry on with the show. How could you?

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I mean, there's a lot of Brown Browns fans out
there the field. I'm just saying, like, listen to look
you teach their own. I just I didn't know you
wanted to smoke from Cleveland Browns fans. I mean, I
think the smoke from the Browns fans for years, but
I think the birth of the best roster in all football.
But their quarterback situation is not like the Chiefs. It's

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it's not unfair to say, Um, look, New Orleans was
the according to I like using Football Outsiders the t
v l A stat Um, you know, the Saints were
number one rush defense, last Russian offense, last guy I
should say. I mean, look, they're Sean Payne is a
past first guy. Then you mentioned Tennessee, Baltimore, the Rams,
and the pack where fifth the Packers are past first
operation with Aaron Rodgers, Minnesota, Cleveland, On, New England, Seattle

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and Tampa. So um, You're right, a lot of playoff
teams in here makes sense. But yeah, I just New Orleans.
This year, we'll see what they do. Tennessee went in
Baltimore not with that offense, Ram's stafford. This year we'll
see Green Bay of course has a chance. In Minnesota
probably not Cleveland again not. I don't think Baker that

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they're not. They're in a tough spot in Man because
you don't have to pay Baker and I just I
think he's a product of that offense and that offense,
that Shanahan offense makes a lot of quarterbacks look good.
It does. Now. I liked the Nick Chubb signing. I
felt like that was a pretty good deal. It was
it was social media. There's a big intention of people

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you know in them. And I consider myself kind of
a combination of the analytical side and kind of the
the exito side, right. I think analytics are a really
good tool to help explain what happens in football and
for people to understand what's happening football. Um and and
I think they work. They're they're work, but they're they're
good to to site all the time. And there's a
big crowd that says hey, you should never give a

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running back a second contract, and I would agree with that. Um.
But then the Browns, who are very anegual, you know,
analytical and and a fan favorite of that crowd, then
signed a running back. And they're in a tough spot
of saying, hey, we like the brown in the way
that Brown's team build, but also oops, they signed a
running back. Um, there's no you can I I would

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wager in that offense, with that offensive line, great offensive line,
one of the best in the the NFL, and the way
they structure that offense, that they could use that money
on Chub for another position that's more impactful and draft
a quarterback. Assume you drafted running back in the second
round and getting near the same production. Yeah, I just
I don't I wonder if teams, especially like the Browns,

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you finally start winning some games, it's taken to long.
Do you really want to take the chance that it's
the system and you know, and not the really good
player that you have. I just I think the Browns
are in a tough spot. They're gonna resign Baker Mayfield
of course anywhere, of course they are. And this is
and this is and this is the tough part about
quarterbacking in the NFL is there's no position in the

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NFL it's more valuable to team winning and team building
in the quarterback. There's just not okay, once a single
position that's important. There's single players the NBA, right Lebron
obviously Janice now after what he did in the finals.
I mean, there's great players, but you have to kind
of have something around you. You're not winning the NFL
without a quarterback, and if you're the Browns, you're kind
of stuck if you. I think if you would give

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them truth serum, they would say that, yeah, Baker's probably
not are gonna win it's a super Bowl. Yeah you
might get as close. You know, last year the good
playoff for them. I think if the end of the
first half of it's the Chiefs ends a little differently, right,
the ball is fumbled off the back of the end zone,
if he's down the one yard line, they called targeting.
The brown score. They go up against the Chiefs and
into halftime game as much closer obviously, But again, like you,

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if we look at superwinning quarterbacks, there's Manning was the
last one that wasn't really dynamic. I mean Nick Foles,
that two games stretches out of his mind. He was unbelievable,
and that two games stretch he was. I just, I just,
I don't. I just it's hard to see Mayfield as
being outside the structure of the offense that elite to

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him with Super Bowl. Well, look, if you gave me
a hunter Bucks right now, and you said yes or no,
and I got to walk up to some crumby casino.
In fact, I don't even need to get to go
to a casine. I'll go to State Line. I'll go
to Whiskey Pets, and I'll walk up to the sports
book there at Whiskey Peace. I don't know if they
have one, and and walk up there and say Hunter Bucks,
yes or no. The Browns win a Super Bowl with
Baker Mayfield as a quarterback, I'll say no. I'll say
I will. I will say no without even the blink

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of an eye. The problem is you're the Cleveland Browns.
Baker Mayfield's got them by the balls contractually, because they can't.
You can run the risk of walking away from good
quarterback play. It's been good. It's not great. It's not Mahomes,
but good solid quarterback play. When it's been such an

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unstable position for as long as it's been. You can't
you can't do it. I mean, I made the argument,
and it wasn't a great one at the time. Was Baker,
you'll continued to playoff throughout the season. But in late
December early December, I said, look, the Browns feel very
much like we're the Chiefs are with Alex Smith, and
Alex was obviously is a veteran and was getting paid

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a good salary. But you know, the Chiefs could have
just kept going the playoffs with Alex Smith, anybody would
have kept his job every year. They would have been
competitive every year. But they realized they weren't, so they
just said, look, man, we're gonna grab Pat Mahomes. I mean,
how bold would the Browns have been if they had
trade up for Justin Fields this year? Oh my god? Well,
first of all, I mean, forget about the Browns. Let's

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think about us. We'd have topics for three months. I mean,
are you kidding me? Like if that were the case,
if they would have moved up and taken an Ohio
State quarterback Act with Baker Mayfield sitting there, I mean,
come on, man, I mean, you know, forget about him
seeing UFOs in the off season. I mean, we would
add conversations about Baker Mayfield, the Browns and Justin Fields
for months. But yeah, I agree, And the Alex Smith

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comp is actually a really good one that I have
not heard because what gets buried in the success of
Patrick Mahomes and you and I have talked about this
before and we've done shows together. Alex Smith was so
damn good his final season in Kansas City. I wasn't.
I was an m v P conversation. Yes, he was
so good and and for Andy Reid to to have

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that success, he could have easily just been comfortable with
where they were at, getting to the playoffs, maybe being
done in the first round of the second round, because
there was a ceiling there. And for him in the
organization to say, you know what, screw it, let's let's
try and see if we can break through that ceiling.
And they did. That took a lot of guts, man,

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That took a lot of guts by them, because that
was good quarterback play. And Alex Smith was a really
good player for them for for his entire time there
in Kansas City. He was really good, and that boldness
obviously paid off with a Super Bowl champion title, right
like that, So that boldness the Browns might have to
do three years from now. It just it feels like

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a golf situation, right, like you pay the guy and
then two years afterwards you're like, yeah, I just we
just can't do it because as soon as you pay
Banker Mayfield, right, your roster will under We'll have to
go uh kind of you know under construction. Right, you
can't pay all these players a high salary, and the
chub deal is not a bad deal financially for them. Um,
but again you have all these other players you have

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to pay, and I just again I woke up and
shows violence. I guess today with the Browns fan, I
just I don't see Baker Mayfield. Is it's been dynamic
enough against Pat Mahome to Josh Allen to win the
f C. Yeah. I mean, now, by the way, for
those of you that might be outraged with what you
just heard, if you're a die hard Cleveland Browns fan,
if you were sitting around in a Bernie Cozar throw back,

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uh and you are upset with what just took place
at Jeff Schwartz on Twitter, that is at Jeff Schwartz
on Twitter, and he is here to uh to handle
all your complaints that you would, yes, very good. All right,
Well we'll be the middleman for HR on this and
that'll be well fun with that throughout. All right it is.
I'll kick the coverage here Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knock,

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Jeff Schworts with you here on FS are coming up next,
there's a quarterback in the NFL who might find himself
getting some very very bad news in the coming days
or weeks. We'll have that for you next here, I'll
kick the coverage Fox Sports Radio. This This is I'll
kick the coverage. I'll kick the coverage here, Fox Sports Radio,

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Jeff Schwartz, Jonas Knocks with you here on FS are
coming up in we'll call it less than ten minutes
from now on Fox Sports Radio. Uh, we're going to
have the scraps things in the world of sports we
have not had a chance to get to. So they
will be yours here again less than ten minutes from out.
This USA Japan baseball game is pretty damn good. I

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mean a bunch of lead changes. The US is up
six five in the sixth inning right now. It is
a live action is. Eddie Garcia pointed out, we don't
often get live sporting events at this time, so uh
really enjoying this stuff so often? We mean never, like
besides the Olympics that are eighteen hours away, what other times?

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Excuse you? You're gonna dismiss the Australian Open. All right,
we're just gonna We're just gonna ignore the Australian Open.
What about you know, the Open Championship in golf. You
know that was going on in British Open. Correctship, The
rebranding has not been lost. Listen, I I can't stand it.
I want to call it the British Open. But if
I if you know, if I called the Open Championship,

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I got a bunch of golf nerds who start harassing me,
you know, so you know, this is the stuff that
I'm not worried about life, golf harassing me on social media. Yeah,
well look, I mean, you know, you never know, you
never know, you you you know, turn one corner and
next and you know, some guys there with a nine
are and ready to do some work, and and and
I'm not looking to get to my veneers knocked out

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because some guys swinging a club in my face. But
that being said, we were talking about the Carson one situation. Uh,
the injury. He's going to rest, uh and and rehabit
for about a week or so, and then they're going
to see about maybe surgery. Um, you're a betting man.
You're betting on surgery for Carson once. At some point,
I would. I mean, if you hear something something pop

(19:27):
on your foot, um, and look, you want to see
uh Robert Anderson right, um, the foot doctor in the bay. Um,
and you know you don't really go to see him
when things are good. I saw him when I desiccated
my toe. He's like, yeah, it's just it's not good.

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You're out for a while. Um. I just so, I
just I don't expect him to come back anytime soon
if he does. Remember, if he does, he's going to
be limited in his mobility, which is part of his game.
He's gonna be thinking about his foot quite often as
he's worried about will he injure it again? Um, nothing

(20:11):
about this. I think we'll end well if I think
he needs to get an operation so you can play
this season, because again, if he plays hobbled or he's
not able to participate, in training camp very much. Then
this year's ruined for them. I think you get a
surgery come back at some point, maybe they can salvage
a good season from what do we expect him to

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play well? Hobbled? I do not know. I I don't
know either. His mobility, his playmaking ability was always one
of his strengths. That was always one of the conversations
about him, his size and inability to make plays on
the run. And it's funny because now, and you asked
the question earlier, right, so where do you turn do next?
So what's what's the plan. Do you need to make

(20:52):
a move? You've got Jacobe's in there. You traded for
Brett Honley. Um, you know, Philip Rivers. Um. By the way,
Philip Rivers, that's how you retire. I don't pull a
Drew Brees, make everybody wait around because you want to
make sure you got all the attention, and you can
do it midweek at some points he can get all
the headlines. Philip Rivers didn't need an entire week or
month to wait around. He just you know, a couple

(21:14):
of days later about see you guys later. I'm gonna
coach high school football and you've never heard from him since.
So that being said, no Philip Rivers coming back. One
of the names that's being thrown out there is Nick Foles,
who is currently who is currently the third quarterback. He's
the third quarterback on the roster. His head coach in
Chicago right now, Matt Naggy talked about the interest in

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Nick Foles for many teams around the league. You're talking
about a Super Bowl MVP and a guy that started
a lot of games, and he's had a really interesting
career in so many ways that I just think that
he deserves that. I mean, anybody that's had the career
he has is somebody that's always going to be for
for all teams. You know, as a third string guy,
teams are gonna look at guys like him. I could

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you imagine if Carson Wentz has to deal with Nick
Foles coming in to save the day yet again in
his career. I mean, what a miserable existence. The Nick
Foles thing is just so fascinating to me because he had, look,
he was out of his mind in the Answer Championship
game in the Super Bowl. But he's had one good

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game I think since then, and that was now guys,
he has not been a good quarterback for four seasons
and yet somehow he got paid multiple times. Good for him,
of course. Um, and people still turned to Nick Foles
like he's he's the guy he won the super Bowl

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four years ago. Oh my god, He's not the answer,
not at all. Yeah, but I mean the irony of
that would be really funny. Oh my god, it's just hilarious.
And we could I mean, I think if we're rooting
for something to talk about, that would be it. But look,
the answers are too. There's two answers. One is Marcus Mariota.
Um and look, I had someone tell me yesterday and

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I didn't really put much thought into this. Marcus Maarda
might just be better than Carson went in general. Oh no,
I think that's valid. I think there's a conversation we
have there, and he's has one year left on his deal.
And then the other one is Jimmy g who I
looked up his contract this morning to make sure, right
they can get out after the season with this deal,
So that makes sense right there, or you know, get

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out of his deal without much of a cap hit,
which is the goal. But I don't know if Jimmy
G is the answer for them. A lot depends on
Trey Lance and the Honors drafted. Supposedly Trey Lance and
Justin Fields I mentioned earlier in the show. The Bears
Corbark are doing very well, and I expect both those
guys to play sooner or later. So maybe Jimmy G
is available. But what they're gonna do is try to
get Carson Wentz back. He's gonna hobble the preseason and

(23:48):
they have to figure out what they want to do
with that quarterback because Jake, Jacob Eason and some Eleans
aren't doing it for them. So I think, I mean,
Mariota to me feels like the best option for them
if they want a quarterback now who can play? Listen?
I so so Jacob Eeson. We mentioned uh, Jake Browning
earlier in the show. So you just don't have a
lot of confidence in these Washington quarterbacks, do you like?

(24:09):
Is this is this a pack twelve thing? Very much
just like Washington, But I do not think it as
a pack twelve things, just guys backup quarterback in Something
about Nick Foles too, is what he did is so
unique because um, you know, because you know It's just
we don't see that from backup quarterbacks very often. And
most franchise quarterbacks in the NFL A drafted in really

(24:31):
the first round. I mean, you might find some in
the middle of the second round. We saw Derek Carr
and said Drew Brees top of the second round. But
a lot of these guys, are the best quarterbacks are
drafted in the first round, and so it's hard to
convince me that fifth round draft pick is all of
a sudden gonna be the franchise quarterback. When it's very
rare that happens. You know, Tom Brady is his own
out wire, right, you have to stop talking about that.

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Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott, those are outliers guys. Um, it's
very rare to see that as avenue for a franchise quarterback. Yeah,
it's uh, it'll be interesting to see how this plays
out because the Indianapolis has got some decisions to make
over the next week to two weeks when it comes
to their quarterback situation. He's you have shore time, Jonas

(25:13):
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over to our executive producer, Danny g to find out
what the hell we have missed so far. D alright, fellas,
this is like the soccer version of Aaron Rodgers versus
the front office. Harry Kane has failed to report to
Tottenham Hotspur for preseason training. Oh my lord, this Monday,
This Monday morning, he's missing in action. Kane, who's twenty eight,

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was due at hot spur Way for COVID nineteen testing
and routine blood work after England's run to the final
of euro but Kane chose not to attend to move
that people say represents the standoff between the striker and
Spurs chairman Daniel Levy. Kane had previously expressed his desire

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to leave the club this summer. All right, Jeff, go
ahead and take this one. And it would not happen
to Ted Lasso's Richmond team. This wouldn't happen. Goo ahead, Jeff,
I'll let you break down this soccer story. Go ahead,
you got it, I thought Harry Kane played soccer, I
mean played played hockey, so that that's just the first thing.
I just that's a hockey story. Yeah, it's Patrick Kane's alias.

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There we go there. Yeah, And I mean really the
news is that other one? Is it the last name Kane? That? Yeah,
he gambled away his fortune in Vegas. Um. So yeah,
this is wow, this is upsetting to hear this soccer
news earlier this morning. I'm not surprised you brought it
back around to Gambly. That only story is pretty big man,

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if it's true. Jeez, yeah, I'm calling bs on that story.
By the way, I think his wife just doesn't know
what he that he's what he's what he's My wife
has no idea about, like Gambly habits until she hurt
you in the other room right now, alright. Cleveland Brown's
wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. Reportedly Has spent nearly two

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million dollars for natural porcelain veneers and crusted with diamonds
as part of a full mouth reconstruction to replace We
heard about Jonas's veneers earlier on the show, but TMZ
Sports is reporting that Beckham enlisted celebrity Dennis Dr Thomas Connolly,
who previously has worked for musicians Post Malone and Chris

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Brown thirteen Carrott Diamonds one point eight million dollars. First
of all, just a little little piece of advice. If
you don't have to get Veneers, don't get him, all right.
I can't. I can't bite into an apple anymore. That's gone.
I can't, you know, use my front teeth to bite
a carrot that's gone. Forbid. I try and chew on

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an ice cube. That's not happening anymore. If you don't
have to get him, don't get him. What what does
he's paying two million dollars for gold Veneers? Jesus oh,
I forgot to mention. The work features an iced out
cross on his fang and several back teeth infused with gems.
This sounds like a joke, like are you is this
a real story? Yeah? I look at the pictures. It's real. Paula.

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I come home. I don't know what to say. I
wish I had things to say. I don't know what
do you want me to say? I mean, I don't know.
I like and I like I'm a big oldel defender
and we play them in New York, and I think
that that he's um like, I think his his image
is not really who he is in the locker room.

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He's a great locker room guy. I just I don't
have this much money. I can't spend this much money
on something like this, So I more power to him, Like, yes, yeah,
I don't. This is very bizarre, man, I don't like like,
like I understand people want to like, what was the
what was the dumbest purchase you ever made with an
NFL chack, Jeff, I mean I spent a hundred I

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spent seven hundreds on a Tendy Todd boat. I don't know,
I know that, but that was with money. And obviously,
you know, radio money is much more significant than than
football money. I've wasted money on not like this, not
like this. I don't know. Um, some something you look
back on and go, I probably could have done about that.
I mean, maybe some of the bags about my wife,

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I guess maybe done with that. She thought she won't
be listening to the show. Um, I don't know. I'm
kind of like, I don't I've never I've never had
like a really terrible like money wasting. I've wasted money
I mean I watched my wife play slots and loads

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of hundred dollars and like two minutes the other day,
I thought that was pretty wasteful. I lost five yesterday
at the craps table. I mean, just that sucks. I'm
looking about this. People go to Vegas knowing they're gonna
lose money. Like we go, we take vacation, We spend
money on a vacation to then spend more money on
vacation and lose more money on vacation just to go
to Vegas. It's an incredible racket. Yeah, it's and when

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they as you get older, you no longer have your
hopes up is to, oh, you know, maybe I'll come
home with this. Never when you're younger, you go to
Vegas and the thought is I'm gonna I'm gonna bring
three four on a bucks and I'm gonna turn that
into five hundred at least, and then, uh, you know,
if if I break even, that's cool, but I'm definitely
gonna come out of here and not having to pay

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for a drink. And next thing you know, you're at
the A T M. Twice in the first six hours,
like because you lost your ass, and then you when
you get older, you go, oh yeah, so I'm never
going to come out on top here. It's never gonna happen.
So you just come to terms with the reality that
you're gonna blow your money when you get out there,
bring a startin amount of cash and that's it, and
you know you're gonna lose. Um but odell more or

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to you, buddy, UM, I don't have this money to
do this. Uh, even though I think I would look
good with a diamond encrusted tooth somewhere in my mouth,
but I just I'm not gonna afford that. Maybe you
would rather blow millions of dollars on a trading card.
This final story, twenty seventeen rookie card signed by Patrick
Mahomes sold for four point three million, the highest price

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ever paid for an NFL card. The National Treasures NFL
Shield Patrick Mahomes Rookie card, which was autographed by him,
fetched the record amount in a private sale by p
WCC Marketplace. The price paid by l J's card shop
beat the previous record of three point one million, which
was paid for a Tom Brady Rookie card in March.

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I mean, come on, man, what what are you gonna
do with that? Whatsou so? I, you know, I made
some money in my career and I'm not at the
point where I just waste money like that. But I
feel like sometimes these you know, the millionaires, billionaires, they
just have to spend money somehow, and this is the
way they do it. They just buy cards of pot.

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Homes tweeted about this too, like I don't know that
world man, but I feel like I was at the
crab Sable this weekend. I know, keep going back to Vegas.
There was a guy who, um, he had two hundred
and twenty five ish thousand in chips um at the
table and then he made it. He I tripled my
money watching him and throw. I eventually lost it all,

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but um, you know he when he threw, he rolled
for twenty two minutes and he made a triple my money,
showed up with fifteen hundred. He probably had five thousand dollars.
He didn't worried about money. He's probably the person who's
spending this money on Pat Mahomes training cards. Like for him,
this is just like another day at the park. They
had to bring out they had to slow, they stop

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everything and bring out twenty five thousand dollar chips because
he had taken all the thousand dollar chips from from
the casino, Like there was no thousand dollar chips at
the craps table anymore. They need to trade them back
in for dollar chips. Can you imagine having that kind
of money. And he just was no. It was him

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and a girl. Man, he was he was dressed well,
she was just well, he just was living the dream man, like,
just no worries like that. That's the guy that buys
the Pat Mahomes card. I was upset because I was.
I was down fifteen dollars at one point, like it's
just a different life. I'm betting it was. By the way, Jonas,
it was a fifteen dollar table. I was betting fifteen

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dollars on the past line. My man was betting he
was in the minute and the maximum was five thousand
dollars a bet he was way above that. Then they
must let him do it obviously. Um, but my man
was over there, I'm betting fifteen dollars, he's betting five
Graham in the past line, like he's he's the guy
buying the Pat Mahomes trading card. Yeah, that's that's that's
the movement. He got that kind of money, you gotta

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blow it on something. May as well be a Mahomes
trading card. That's how this works. It is out keep
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radio affiliates, it'll be the Dan Patrick Show. Make sure
you check those guys out of For whatever reason, your
local programmer switches over to something else. You can find
that Dan Patrick Show on the I Heart Radio app. Um, Jeff,
you and I will be back tomorrow as we are
fast approaching the first football game of the season, a
damn Hall of Fame game between the Cowboys and the

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Steelers on Thursday. I can't wait, man, I cannot wait.
I've already told my wife, like, I'm clear the schedule
Thursday night. Sorry, I'm not watching whatever random show we
find Netflix is not happening. We're watching the fourth quarter
of a game with players that will not make the team.
I don't care. I'm watching it all because I have
wagered on set football game. If you don't wage in
the Hall of Fame game, that's a you problem. Don't

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come at us because of it. I agree. Listen, I'm
gonna do it. Uh, and I'm not gonna be judged
for it. I mean, you're talking to somebody who bet
on a horse race in Japan during the pandemic. That's
a true story. I sat next to my wife Shoes,
my fiance at the time, and I just said I
have to do something. She goes, what and I said,
there's nothing on. So I turned on t v G

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and literally bet a live horse race in Japan. Had
to do it? And no, of course not, well, I mean,
did you did you? Did you do your research and
just put some random money down on a horse? Yeah?
Like five bucks? Yeah, there's I don't bet big, it's
just five bucks, you know, of course not. No, I
just I saw it and whatever, whatever jumped out to me,
whatever whatever gave me a feeling, and I went with it,

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and that feeling was incorrect. That that is how this
this works when it comes to betting on horse races
in Japan. That's that works. I'm actually not surprised about
that outcome. Believe it or not. Yeah, look, it's it's
it's I do not to me. It's fun. I'm not.
I'm not. I don't look at sports betting as a
way to make a living. I look at it as
being fun. And if it's if I'm trying to have fun,

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I'm gonna do as little research as possible. That's the
way I look at it. So you did no research
for the show today, like me like having Well no,
I mean, but this show we do research because we
want to know where we're up on the stories. But
when it comes to gambling that I look at, I
go into it thinking, well, I'm gonna lose. So why
do I want to prepare if I already know I'm

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gonna lose? What's the point you could try to win?
Like I'm having a winning season in baseball this year,
which is incredible in baseball. Yeah, I I look I
I I don't have the ability to uh, to be
able to multitask having to prepare for a show and
then also put together my notes for a gambling lineup,
Like I. I don't have that in me. I lose.

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I'm not good at it. I'm not good at it all.
You know what you are good at, though, Jeff Schwartz,
you're good at pissing off fans. I'll tell you that. Uh,
the Cleveland Browns fans not happy with you and some
of your comments about Baker Mayfield earlier in the show.
I believe that you said Baker Mayfield was the worst
starting quarterback in the league. Is that what you said? Yeah,
that sounds about right, I would say, um, so it

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makes it makes sense. Um, No, I look, I think
it's very fair to say that Browns have the best
rocks in the NFL, but a quarterback they're just lacking,
uh you know, compared to the the teams that are
you know, competing with them to win a championship, especially
at a f C. I mean again, if if we
have a situation where I get to bet on Pat

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Mahomes or Baker Mayfield or Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen,
uh mean, or Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen or you know,
Baker Mayfield and Tom Brady, Baker Mayfield and Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, Mayfield is easily the worst of all those quarterbacks. No,
I would agree, and um that that division is pretty
interesting though if you just look at where I mean Baltimore,

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you know, is is Lamar Jackson going to take that
step Joe Burrow's knee? Mayfield? Maybe the jury is still
out on it and we don't know what the hell
Ben Roethlisberger's Yeah, I'm very um strong this year on
the Steelers um under and not making the playoffs, I
just don't see it with Ben. I don't see him
just magically becoming young and mobile and you're having the

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big arm again. Yeah, it's uh, it'll be a fun
division to watch and regardless, but this has been a
fun show. We are here all the way until Thursday,
Jeff and myself and next installment of Jeff's best offensive
lineman in the NFL. We're gonna have that for you tomorrow.
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