September 21, 2021 • 47 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the Packers bouncing back with a win over the Lions, a team that can never win it all. LaVar is still ticked off about John Madden disrespecting his old "R" team. Plus, Petros Papadakis of AM 570 LA Sports weighs in on USC firing Clay Helton and why "Coach Prime" isn't a qualified "organization builder."
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This is the best of two pros and a couple
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Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Brady,
where's your errors? I actually, I don't think my kids
have ever been to Chucky Cheese, so they don't they
don't know that. Um, because my oldest is five. It's
it's says she's not really old enough to truly enjoy it.
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I don't think maybe she is. I don't know, but
I I did not remember that until we played it
with yesterday. Yes, there's the first time that god out long. Yeah,
there's you know, the great thing about Chuck E Cheese
they serve pictures of beer, like remember that, you get.
The weird thing about Chuck E Cheese for me is
you have this this great conundrum, Right, you grow up
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being afraid of rats, Like I still hate rats to
this day. Right, but you sit one lap. But you
made your main character of the place a rat, Right,
it's kind of weird. Yeah, it is weird. Yeah. I
think it's like me being terrified of snakes and then
you show up and there's a giant snake like roach,
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you know what I mean? Like, hey, kids, let's play
some games. Hey that's a roach, man, give it a minute.
It'll be in the studio here, so you know, hey Brady,
Hey Brady, there was a roach the other week that
came walking by, strolling by the size of a direct
TV remote like like like you're at his house, bro,
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Like it just finished taking a shower, got breakfast, got
got a cup of joe, like was hanging out and
just like, hey guys, how y'all doing? Like he was
not going to bother us, not one bit. He he
didn't scurry. See I'm used to seeing you know them scurry,
you know what I mean, Like they don't run. Roaches scurry,
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and that's just like skives, you know what I mean.
This roach was so cool and confident and just it
was so cool that I was like, I'm looking at
it like it's it's a roach. I know that's a roach,
But my mental roll index it wasn't computing that it
was a roach because the roaches and you know what
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it is. It's probably because like it's in a comfortable environment.
He gets to listen to all kinds of entertainment all
hours of the day. I mean, listening to great lineups.
I mean, I guess the roaches I saw was like
they was trying to get the where they was trying
to go, just like we were trying to get to
where we were going. I was judging the roach, but
we was do one the same exact things. Yeah, I mean,
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it's real out here in the streets. Yeah, I hear you.
So you're sitting that roach was relaxed. It was it
was like relaxed. That's a broadcast relax. If he keeps
that up, he's gonna end up on Big New Kickoff.
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I'm telling you what, I'm killing him. Yeah, big big
TV star here, all right. So I gotta say this
about Aaron Rodgers, man, he looks a lot different when
he's not getting hit in the nuts. I'll say that quarterback.
I'm just saying, like, he's not taking any direct shots
to the balls, and next thing you know, he's delivering
died that throwing a ton in. How many guys in
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the league can make that throw Brady, Uh, maybe there's five,
maybe five times. He's unbelievable. Man, some of the stuff
he's able to do. I mean, you know, he didn't
have as much pressure on him either. You know, what
do you mean You're not saying a little bit of
a different team. What do you mean the Detroit Lions,
You don't think they're the Saints. Took it on the chin,
But I'm gonna give them a pass because of all
the whole protocols or whatever that took place. But yeah,
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it was a different that was a different set of
circumstances that Aaron Rodgers was under last night. And listen,
if anybody tells you that I wasn't sweating out a
potential backdoor cover with the lead eighteen and and some
people having it eleven and a half, and the Lions
Jerd Goff throwing into the end zone late there on
the fourth down. Some people were stressed out about it.
But nonetheless the Packers get on the board and they
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figured things out and go one and one. Good for them.
A lot of bets there play. Let me they say
something too. By the way, um, you're when you're not
a good team, you know you don't do what's that?
You don't go for the fourth down? Okay, you you
don't go for it when you're in field goal range.
You take the points, you keep it within a one
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score game. It really wasn't until a final touchdown where
it got out of reach. If they had just taken
the field goal when they were in field goal range.
I want to say what earlier in the late in
the third maybe instead of going forward on fourth down
when they did, that was the backbreaker for for Detroit.
They hadn't scored all half. It would have gave them
more momentum. And instead everyone wants to all the the analytics,
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the statistics. You know what the statistics tell you. Okay,
you don't know if you really break down the fourth
and one or fourth and two. Then who actually gets
those conversions? It's the good teams. It's not the Lions,
all right, it's not a team that's a perennial like
struggling bottom dweller team. You kicked the field goal, okay,
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then you hit your over from for the points which
should have came into play, and then it makes Jonah
sweat out. It makes him sweat out that spread even
more so. But by the way, throwing to the ball
in the end zone, it's like, dudes, fourth and three
just converted, extend to drive. Like there's so many times
I've watched this team going, yeah, this is why you're
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gonna lose a lot of football games. You're just incredibly
missed managed right now. But I don't know what. Will
the Lions ever be good? Like, will they ever be
able to get a run game? Will they ever be good?
They're so bad that they have first ballot Hall of
Famers the scruntle with them. Yes, that's how bad you
got you. You're so bad you have players in retirement
that still got beef with you. You know what, you
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know what they do too. I was thinking about this.
They tease you because if you were to go a
position my position, would you say that Matt Stafford has
been a top ten to fifteen quarterback in the NFL
the last ten years, Like if you're just like consistently
in top fifteen, okay, So, so he's been a top
half of the league quarterback. Calvin Johnson's one of the
better wide receiver talents we've seen in a long time.
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They've had Barry Sanders there. Look, it's and and also
even after Calvin Johnson leaves, you know, Galladay was there,
Marvin Jones there, They they've had talent there. It's not
like this has been a team that's been been void
of talent up and down the roster. Like they've had
legitimate players there that have come through the organization. And
it almost gives you the disguise of well maybe you
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know I mean, and then you and then you see
him on Thanksgiving and you're like, God, same old thing again.
It's just they never can figure it out. I have
more faith and some of the other bad team. I
have more faith in Jacksonville. I'm telling you this right now,
being able to figure out whatever it is they're trying
to figure out than the Lions. I just if I'm
a Lions fan, they just tease you, give the impression
that they've got real talent and real players, only to
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roll out a four or five win season seemingly every
single year. That's a lot of teams. That's the sad
thing about Brady said it on another other show at
at another point in time. You're literally talking about the
vast majority of teams and the lead and you want
to know what's you want to know what's even more interesting.
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I'd rather if I'm if I'm from a place with
one of these types of teams, I'd rather my team
just all the ways suck like the Lions, versus a
team that may or may not like like the Bengals.
Like they'll make it to the to the playoffs. You
know they're not gonna win the super Bowl. You know
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they're not gonna make a real run to to win
the super Bowl. I mean it happened, what like one time,
the Ikey Woods era shuffle, Like, you know, the Browns
aren't winning the super Bowl. You know, as good as
they are this year, they're not winning it. You know it.
I can do the shuffle by I would rather, I
would rather, Like you you gotta go back to the
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Webster Slaughter Area era and and the yeah Kevin Kevin
Mack come on that the big big running back Kevin
Mac represented what the Browns it the dog like mac
like it was like biggest shoulder pads in the history
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of the league. And and even when it's seemingly could
be a thing, my man earnest fumbles and and the
whole thing about it is is that something is going
to go wrong with one of these teams. It doesn't
matter if they're going to get further or if they're
just going to be bad to begin with. So I
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almost kind of respect the fact that Detroit just gives you. Listen,
chair for us, you're from here, or you like something
about the Detroit Lions. I have no idea what it
would be. Maybe you like Lions, maybe you like Blue Lions.
I don't know, but chair for us and support us,
because otherwise you're not getting anything else. I'd rather have that.
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I'd rather respect that. Like I know, we're probably gonna lose,
so if we win, it's a bonus. Here's the hard part, though,
is they gonna sell something. So every one of these
franchise cells optimism to their fan base. But the reality is,
because I think we talked about this at one point
time before the season started, but like, does every team
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go in to the season thing they can win a
Super Bowl? And honestly, I think if you played in
the NFL long enough and it only takes probably a
few years, you kind of say to yourself, and especially
you've been on different teams, like, yeah, no, like this
team is not good enough. Like this team like it
would take a incredible amount of luck for us to
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be able to get there, even if you're one of
the better players. I mean, think about Aaron Rodgers frustration
with the with the Packers is he's he's been good
enough to get that team to back to back NFC
championship games, but he knows he's looking at the rest
of it saying, yeah, we're not good enough to be
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able to win a super Bowl, like I have won one.
I know what it's like, Like we don't have those components.
They don't let me be a part of the conversations
so we can go win one. And so the crazy
thing is is when you think about teams like Detroit,
for example, what are they selling, Like, what are they
ultimately believe? Oh, it's a rebuild here. Okay, every year
is a rebuild year. But that's what you gotta sell,
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which is nuts to me. It's like like you're the vacuum,
right Like you're you're not dicon. You're at the top
of the line, vacuum that's gonna last, that has a
great warranty, it's gonna actually pick crep up off the floor.
You're like the generic brand. That's like, we're just trying
to make some sales. You know, we're just trying to
win a few games here and there. We're just trying
to do our job every once in a a while. And
then you know, you have to get a new you
have to get a new vacuum and start over again.
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I mean, like like use the analogy you want, like
they are the brand that like it's just it's there.
It's not it's not gonna be overly impressive. It may
be better at times than something else, or may surprise
some people, but it's it's never gonna be what you
ultimately want, right Like they're they're just gonna suck the
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majority of the times. Generic vacuum like that that's what
it's gonna be. And yeah, but you know, I mean
come on. At least at least they got something. And
there's a lot of cities in this country they don't
have football team. Sorry, they asked the city of St.
Louis how they feel about football right now, I'll say this,
I mean Kansas City, they just got theirs. I mean,
they hadn't been like forever there was still they were
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still a competitive team, like they were going to the playoff. Yeah,
and they have history like all the way back, like
way way back, way, way way, there was some good
team and Nick Lowry goes, it goes further back then
it goes further back than Mary word, they didn't. They weren't.
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They weren't getting super bowls though they weren't. I'm talking
before modern day NFL like like it was the NFL
like that far back, you know, and they want a
super Bowl and now they're perennial super Bowl contenders. So
I just I don't I don't understand the phenomenon on
of it all the way. But there are just some
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teams you can bet the bank on it, They're not
gonna win it. You about the bank on it, you
know what I mean. That's what I'm saying, So take
it for sometimes you just got to accept. It's like
that relative that you don't like coming over for for uh,
you know, for the holiday. You just gotta take it
at face value. I don't really want you here, but
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I tolerate you being here. Or I don't want to come.
I don't want to go over your house, but I'm
going to tolerate it. Like it's like I don't like
coming in here and sitting with you, but I tolerate it,
you know what I mean. Like that's how it works,
like data stripper, you know, Like I was joking everybody
I enjoyed coming in with Tom Jonahs didn't laugh though.
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But here's the thing. I would say this, when you
date a stripper, not that I have, but when you
date a stripper, you just kind of have the expectation
there's gonna be two three nights a week where she's
gonna come home smelling like cologne. Just just a stripper.
I'm just saying. An exotic dancer, if you know, if
you are yea an exotic dancer. I'm just saying. So
if you're a Lions fan, you're not calling somebody on
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you know that takes care of you on a flight, Like, uh,
what is it. You can't call them strippers, man, there's
there's like there's the evolution, like you gotta have a
little bit more respectful. What would it be exotic dancer,
exotic dancer? I would say exotic dancer is a little
bit too exotic, so ex you know, I just think
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that it just needs to Uh, professional dancer is very good.
They are professionals like you, Like, if you're a professional dancer,
tell me what type of dances are you doing? It
could be any type of dancing, Like you could be
a ballarie, you could be an expressive dancer. So just
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call them just like all right, you know what I
mean expressive dancers? A river a river dancing, you know
what I mean, a good point of the dance. It's
an expressive dancer and it's good. But but that it's
their pros, the professional and you can see a lot
of You've got to be in really good shape to
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be able to do some of the very flexible might
I had to be able to do some of the things.
I mean, it's three seventeen, so some of our homies
are probably listening to our show right now, and they
deserve to be able to enjoy sports. Thought radio shots
out to all you professional dancers that are either finishing up,
just starting your shift, whatever it may be. Because we're
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just starting our shift as well, and we're working late night,
early early hours too. So could this be a big
where lavargive shoutouts to part of the audience that maybe
people didn't didn't think about waking up thinking about right away?
How about it just like this about their professionals too.
They have to pay taxes to gash on it, and
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well for some of them, you know what I mean,
I mean that's us too. And I apologize for calling
strippers I was reading off. LaVar apologized. All right, I'm
glad you did. Be sure to catch live editions of
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar, Arrington,
and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern three
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Let me just ask you guys this because LaVar mentioned
this before. Brady you said, well, you know it's like
you just kind of go into these into these seasons
thinking we don't really have a shot at winning a
Super Bowl. Brady, if you heard the story about like
you're a big fan of John Madden. Correct, Like, I
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love John Maddens. Haven't heard John Madden say a bad
thing to anybody except for LaVar really horrible. So wait
what yeah, just eight kicking the nuts. I need to
hear that tell about the time John Madden that wore
steel toe boots and kicked you in the nuts. So
we were coming into the season and they were calling
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the game. I believe we were the first game of
the year we were playing. I want to say the Jets,
they still had Curtis Martin, they had Lamont Jordan's that year.
They they're a pretty good team, and we've I want
to say that was the year we brought in like
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Jesse armstad Um, the meat head from Philadelphia, the linebacker,
a couple other guys. I want to say we had
a pretty pretty interesting off season, which we always did,
but we were pretty stacked and still loaded from my
rookie year. And I'm in the production meeting and we're
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talking and John Munton is sitting there and he's like,
you know, He's like, yeah, yeah, you got a lot
of energy, LaVar. Like it's like you're really I like,
I like how you are. Like he's taught like he's
and I could like I didn't know him and didn't
have experiences with him. I'm just excited to be in
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this production meeting and I'm like, not knowing that I'm
being set up. You know, it was a setup. So
he gets me going and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm
with you. I'm with you. He's like, so, do you
think you're gonna win the Super Bowl? I was like, hell, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna win this thing. This is our year. I know,
I know it's been rough. Um we're gonna get it
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turned around, like this is the year, he says to me.
He makes first, he makes this face like, you know,
John hits you with a blank stare, like his stairs
are really blank, Like they're not they're they're they're fully loaded,
but the but the look you get is very very blank.
You're not reading it like he probably was at some
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point a really really dope poker player, you know what
I mean, Because you don't know what direction he's going in.
This man says to me, I will bungee cord out
of the good Year blimp over the fifty yard line
at halftime if the Washington football team, and he didn't
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say a football team said the other name, Um, if
they're playing in the super Bowl. Now, we haven't played
one game yet, Brady, we have not played one game now.
I'm curious to see what the look on your face was.
I just, first off, I felt really disrespected, like and
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back then, you gotta note I was loyal to the
soil and and I was. I was definitely like like
borderline ahole like I was. So I was so intense
about protecting our name and our team and our guys.
One time I threatened jay Leno, like I told jay Leno,
bring jay Leno's ass to to Washington Football which it
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wasn't that then, but it was our park back then.
It was our park. Right now is Washington Football Team park?
I would assume. I don't know, but it was our
park back then, park r R as in the letter are.
And so I'm not giving you, I'm not giving you
the whole name. Okay, that's what it's still it for. Right.
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So so I tell jay Leno, you bring your ass
to the park and and you put some pets on
and I'm kick your a. Right that got that got close.
So but I got And here's why jay Leno got it,
because I couldn't say that to John Matten. You can't.
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You can't disrespect John Matten. He's got three and a
half hours that have bashing your football and and I'll
make you slow in the video game. Well yeah that too.
There's just there's just some guys that you you just
you gotta respect them because of what they meant to
the game and what they're doing for the game. Still,
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John Matten was untouchable, So I ate that. But when
jay Leno did it, I told Jay Leno, i'mnna beat you.
I'm gonna beat you down, like and jay Leno caught
me that day it got out Luna Media. He called
me that day He's like, hey, look man, I didn't
mean it. It's material. You know, he's making fun of us,
like he was making fun of he was making fun
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of our team and we were make fund able, like
we were easy, easy targets. And yeah, so he said
he was bungee cord and if you know, so, if
you want to add insult to injury for those out
there who aren't aware of John Madden and and what
what makes this so disrespectful is John Madden does not fly.
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He will not leave the earth like he will not
leave the ground. He doesn't fly. He doesn't do anything
that would involve him leaving the ground. So he took
bust Is from place to place when he was doing things.
So never never flies, will not Madam Cruiser, Right, Yeah,
will not fly. So for somebody to tell you that
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they would do something that they never do in their life,
if you make it to the to the to the
super Bowl, tells you all you need to know about
how bad we really were in reality versus what we
thought we were in in fantasy. And what team was
was he talking about? Like the team that he was
talking about, Because you keep saying are as, I'm just
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trying to figure out our team, okay, saying we are Yeah, Brady,
I'm confused to have a Pittsburgh accent. What do you
mean our team? Maybe maybe I come from that Steers,
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you worked too hard at it because you know you're
not from there. It sounds like he's just walking up
the bar, all right. It is two pros and a
cup of Jones Slavarrington. Brady quitted Jonas knocks here on.
Comparently I wasn't much of a pro. Twelve minutes John
Matton was going to jump out of that that good
year blimp. It wasn't enough. It wasn't an indictment on you.
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It was an indictment on the team and where you
guys were at. I know we're all one when we're
part of the team, but felt like a loser before
we even started the season. Yeah, well, and I was.
I was strong in in in mind and in heart,
but my emotions, um, they were destroyed. John Gruden asked
me before a Monday night football game versus the Ravens
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when I was in Cleveland. He like dead faced, leaned
across the table and she goes, do you think you
guys can win tomorrow night? And honestly, there was like
you know how you got like that second or two
that runs through your head before you answer something, because
your mind's racing at what you actually think to say.
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And I said, yes, but I was thinking in my mind,
but we don't have to play our best game and
we're gonna have to catch them on an off night.
I mean, we were a one win team at that
point time in the season. We were a young football team,
but that was irrelevant, and we had got through so
much turnover on the roster, new scheme, new coach nude,
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all this stuffy, clear your throat. He he just gotta
lean back. Okay, I mean, but but he kind of
pressed me on it, and and my thing was, and
I've always been this way because the next thing where
my mind wentz W was' I'm always the type of guy.
Maybe it's like the whole Notre Dame mantra and all that,
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but like, what though the odds be greater or small,
I've always liked the odds stacked against me. I've always
liked that. I've always loved when people said, no, you
can't do something. I've loved that, like put put it
all against me, and let me see if I can't
show you what I can do. And look, more often
than not, you're probably gonna lose in those scenarios unless
you just have supreme talent, which that wasn't me. But
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I I think like I can still do it right.
Like I'll get on a golf course and there'll be
some shot and it's like I'm Kevin Costner and Tin
Cup because I'm like, I've got the ability to hit
this shot, but I don't practice him play enough to
be able to actually do it in this moment now
maybe one in particular, maybe one in ten times, or
maybe I should have had those ten beers before this
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this shot. But I'm sure as hell gonna try it
because I didn't come here to lay up, you know,
like I did. I didn't come here to lay down,
And so I think that way. I can't speak for
everyone else in our locker room, though, like that's what
I wanted to say, like you put me anywhere, and
I feel like I got a shot at winning. But again,
I don't know that everyone else is feeling that way.
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And that's that's the hard thing I think about the NFL,
Like the Lions last night, You're going into Lambeau in
Green Bay, and you probably wish the Packers would have
one Week one. You probably wish they wouldn't have got
the doors beat off of them in Week one by
the Saints, and so they wouldn't be coming into this
matchup for their home opener going, yeah, we're about ready
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to open up a can on these dudes. You know.
Let me let me ask you guys a question. Let
me just toss a hypothetical out at you guys. When
I was watching the game last night, I noticed I
noticed two things. One Aaron Rodgers isn't upset anymore. Like
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when you look at his face, he has a very
relaxed space, all right. And then I looked at Jared
Goff's face, and Jared Goff is like he's got the
w T F face, right, like he kind of always
has that though, yeah, but it's more pronounced. I think
it was a problem in l A because he had
that face, so like, we don't do this in l A.
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We're l A. We don't do that face. We'll get
you some plastic surgery to get rid of that. If
you what an attack on southern California. The thing about it,
the thing about it last night when I was watching it,
it was his body language. It was like it was
just like Jared Goff like ah, and I'll start thinking
to myself, would Cam Newton be a viable option for
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the Detroit Lions. They need a shot in the arm.
You know what the Detroit Lions need. They need a
a signature player. They don't who's their signature player right now,
but they're in they're in a full rebuild though, yeah,
why not? So why not get a stop guy? The guy?
That's why I think you need Jared goffs because I
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know this, he'll sling that football around like he did
it in college. He's done it so far as the NFL,
we saw a week one like they're gonna be down
a lot of games. I mean, you watch that defense
with a Kuda out the best cover corner. They can't
get much pressure. It's gonna fall on his shoulders to
be able to sling the football around. And so I
think that's the difficulty. Is what about trading off because
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they're not good, So trading off the fact like all
conventional wisdom like Okay, he can sling the ball around
a Couda's out, Like I get all that, But what
about mentality? What what about like kind of like belief
like oh, like I look at Cam and it's like
maybe I believe we can win. Like I know CAM
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isn't the best at this point. I don't think they
care if they win. I don't care. I think there's
a full blown rebuild. I think it's a rebuild without
having to say players I understand, but I just think
the organization is not going to put them in the
best spot to succeed. I think the only concern is
with with Cam is this Cam want to go to
that situation. If he goes there and he's put in
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a a tough position to be in, like any quarterback
that place there by the way, like I don't care
if Matt Stafford stayed there, which there's a reason why
he went up to the front office and asked for
his course. He knew what was coming. And if any
whatever players there, they're going to struggle. And if I'm
cam Newton, and given how things went in New England
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and given how things have kind of gone now at
this point time in my career, with the way things
that in Carolina, you gotta be particular about the opportunities
that you take because it might be the last one.
But what if it's already happened though for me, I
don't know that he has that luxury at this moment.
It could be and he might have to wait until
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next year, but he's made enough money where he's got
the ability to do that. I just think at this point,
I don't know that I'd want to go on and
be a part of the Lions when I'm not in
their future plans. No matter what he does this year.
To Jonas's point, they're in a full rebuild I don't
know if that would be the way I'd want to go,
because I'm thinking to myself, this could be it is
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this how I want to go out? Or do I
want to try to have an offseason some time to
actually be in an offense where I have a shot
at being able to execute play at the high level,
play it the way I've I've experienced previously in my career.
That would that be my thoughts, and I think those
days are long gone. I think it's more about to
me if I'm trying. I'm just looking for an opportunity
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at this point, I think all that. I don't think
he thinks, yeah's already there, like so this is it? Then? Yeah,
I don't know. I think he's still got that like
one last shot. You're someone else man for for believing
that deeply and think this is it. Like if he
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doesn't get picked up this season, it's over. Well, what
I'm saying is the days of him being an m
v P and playing at that level have have gone.
They've passed. So he's not going to make a team,
Like what team would he go to and make better
where he would have the opportunity to go that what
Tampa Bay all right, Well, I mean I don't know
(30:56):
that he'd go anywhere to make them better. I think
it's the opportunity would fit right, Yeah, fit with what
and we're saying the same thing. Fit with a team
that has the type of talent where you just can't
mess it up. Indianapolis. I think he'd be a better
fit in Indianapolis. I mean, okay, let's kick the tires
on that one, because I think that that's another interesting
(31:17):
one because they need it, right, they now need that,
Like I'm giving a hypothetic. I mean, the lines need everything.
But I've given a hypothetical about the line. So I
mean does that one work? Yeah? Well that I think
it's an interesting conversation. He's got, like what, he's got
two peg legs, four ankles, I think four of them.
Can we talk about that? Que talking about that? Yeah,
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we definitely need to get into that. That Brady, that
is an interesting pool right there. That percolated very quickly.
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Petros Papadakis. You hear him on A M five seventy
l A Sports. You also see his work on FS
one and beyond. He's basically the voice of Hawaii football
on Fox Sports one. The Great Petros Papa. What's happening?
I know, if I don't, I love the Rainbow Warriors.
But if I don't have to see him again this year,
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I think I'd be okay with that. You know that
those are fighting words with Jonas. It's it's bad. I mean,
nobody anybody on the East Coast. I mean it was
four in the morning when we got done, four thirty
in the morning on the East Coast. But we were
in really we're primetime in Thailand. There you go. But
(32:47):
you know, you know in Bangkok they love uh, Calvin
Turner's their favorite football player. And but yeah, Hawaii and
San Jose State on Saturday Day night, I think they
must have had a combined and I'm not kidding drops
thirty drops, yeah, and like thirty punts. And I'm not
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a guy who needs the game to be forty five
to ten or you know, really high scoring game and
to have a bunch of touchdowns to call, I'm not
that guy, but man, that was a slog on Saturday
night and early in the morning. How do you announce
that drop? I just say, we're having some trouble with
(33:34):
the football. You tell them to build a package show
and everybody dropping the ball. The funny thing was like
it was an empty stadium because of the protocols in Hawaii.
It's an island. If a bunch of people get sick,
they can't just ship them to another state or bring
in a bunch of doctors. It's it's an island, so
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they have a different way of handling things. And they
didn't have anybody in the stadium, and they had our
feed and this happened sometimes with kind of more of
a smaller school. They just had the game feeding back
to their big gass scoreboard. So you imagine like all
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the players just standing there watching the packages that we
kept putting together over and over and over again, and
it just got contagious. It was a pandemic of drops. Yeah,
but that it's over now and San Jose stayed, escaped
and survived. But that's a tough trip. Yeah, no, no, no,
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no doubt about that. It can also be a tough
trip going to Pullman, Washington. Uh, Petro, It's not not
sure if you solve that. But oh yeah, I know
what happened the the USC didn't they fired This is
actually true. They fired their security guy years ago. They
hadn't been to Pullman's ends and he's the only guy
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that remembered how to get off the plane in Pullman
because it's a smaller plane, and so they all ran off. Well,
they didn't open the back door that you got to
open up at the same time and get everybody off
at the same time. Otherwise you do the hydraulics like
you're rolling in your sixth four. And they just popped
up in Lewiston, I know. But they went in and
(35:24):
one they came back. You'd expect the USC to win
that game, and you'd expect him to win the game
and Pullman the way they wanted. But kind of the
script of how it happened was very unique. Yeah, it
definitely was Another unique place to land a an aircraft
would be in Well State College, Pennsylvania. Here we go.
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What you did, I mean, did you catch any of
that aburn? Well, you know, I was deeply concerned about
the night and before, which was my Maryland Illinois clash. Yeah,
how do you feel about that? Uh? Maryland pretty explosive
to his little brother, ty Leah is a fun, twitchy player.
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They always have great perimeter yeah, and they have him.
They have a Dante Demons. Uh, so they have They
always have great perimeter play and really good perimeter play
on the defensive side of the ball too, And it
looks like they're getting better up front. Illinois obviously not
a great football team, but that was a recipe for
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any team to have a disaster right opening of the
conference on the road at night on a weekday. That's
you know, and you just played Howard, so you know,
I mean they did survive. But and Maryland's got a
big weeknight matchup coming up with Iowa, which will be
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interesting on a Friday night on Fox as it's the
early part of the Big Ten. But yes, I saw
Penn State a little bit beaten up on the the
Auburn Tigers under the new coach from Boise, Brian Harrison,
and they looked formidable. Now it's you've beaten Wisconsin and Auburn.
Has that got you in the top five yet? No,
(37:14):
it hasn't. Well, that's unfortunate. It really is, though it's
a crying shame, man. I I think personally the eight
people was something against Pence. They don't know what it is.
I can't can't imagine what it is. But Petro's I
gotta ask you about, well, get something, Yeah, I gotta
ask you about what is? What's what's thrown out there?
(37:35):
In regards to the head coaching search there at usc UH,
Dion Sanders became potential candidate at least right coach Pride.
Could coach Pride? Could he work at at usc like?
I can't honor that with an answer. I don't know.
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I mean, I think USC is looking for a program builder,
and I don't really know if Coach Prime has proven
that he's got the ability didn't do that yet. I
think USC has gotta They've got to dig deep and
make less of a of a splash higher and more
of a we need this for the next ten years
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of the TV deal as a conference type of hire.
And if they went and hired Coach Prime actually would
be so absurd that I think I would come out
the other end in full support. But I didn't know that.
I mean, I think the Penn State coach would probably
be bet don't do that. Let's let's revisit Prime, Like, no, no,
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I'm not gonna let you do that. Yeah, let's go
like think about this. You're you're talking about get a
guy that that is a more program builder. I mean,
you guys don't give guys time to build programs that
what are you talking about? It was seven years watching
Clay held he fired fifteen assistant coaches. Is that not time? Like?
What do you want? I don't, I don't know. It's
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just so much turnover. This it's it's the last three
coaches at USC have been fired in the middle of
the season. Was seven years for Clay House seven seven
years of ineptitude and a guy that everybody knows can't
hire staff. The first two people Clay Helton called when
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he got the job, when he got the actual coaching
job and they pulled the interim label off him and
Pat Hayden hired him. The first two people he called.
Now you have to think, like, who's the first two
people you would call if you got a head coaching job.
Who would coach Bron call? Who would he call? Michael
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Irvin and Emmett? You know, like, who are the first
two people you would call if you got the USC
job to come. The first two people Clay Helton called
was his there and his father's best friend, and they
were both at Western Kentucky and he brought them in.
They but they both ended up having to be fired
like a slew of other assistants just to keep Clay
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Hilton is like this paper figurehead in charge at USC.
It's obviously a formula that just didn't work. You don't
run a program like that. The first two people you
call have to be like Tom Herman and Brett Venables.
They you have to make people tell, you know, in
a situation like USC. When it comes to Franklin Sony coordinators,
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has he fired? Though offensively, we haven't been good on
offense since UH coach Moorehead. Lev Morehead was the man
bro still is, Yes, yes, still is, and and so
well they don't throw it to the wide receivers, but
that's more of a crystal ball thing. And Oregon, but
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though they have two xpen state coordinators in the Northwest,
one is on the only hope in the Northwest for
the college football playoffs at this point in the season,
more Headed Oregon. The other ones the dude Donovan at Washington.
Who's just about to walk the plank into the sound.
They are struggling. I don't know why you would pull
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any of those guys to another program, to be anc
They just haven't been good since more hit, So I
wouldn't be concerned about that with with Frank. Just be
concerned about someone else. Don't okay, I don't bother, don't
doesn't matter what I say. Pop, don't even put it
out there. Man, I don't want we go back to Coach.
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I was trying to pull I was trying to hoach.
I was trying to pull the conversation together. No, no, no,
yea trying to you guys are trying to make me
say something meeting Yet, who else is suggested Coach Prime
for any job ever, other than the job that he
he was He was a Florida State by the way.
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By the way, the reason why I think Coach Prime
would not end up at USC as if he takes
another job, it would probably be Florida State. They have
more money, it's the recruiting talent, it's his alma mater.
They've already kind of made a run at Florida State
has more money than USC He's got a lot more
than I think you realize. Yeah, I look up the endowments.
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Put it this way. They barfed money, but they've been
cash stractive late, right, I mean, why did they get
rid of Clay Helton sooner because they didn't have any
replacement or they didn't have enough cash. They want to
buy him out because they wanted control of the program.
They've always had the cash. I mean, look, if you
ever been to any universities, like they're always constantly rebuilding,
like they're the only places that look good in the
(42:49):
world right now, like every universe, Like you go to
a university or like, oh look, it's very different from
the last time I was here six months ago. They've
built seven new buildings and eighteen new and elements, and
they're still calling everybody and asking for money. Don't ever
give your money to a college ever they call you
hang up seriously, like it's better just to throw your
(43:11):
money down to a toilet. My god, so they could
build something else, Like all they do is build unless
they put your name on their like, give my name
on that. They got an al Callings building at sc ohez.
Really he didn't do anything wrong, you know, No, I
mean he's just a job. In fact, he did everything right. Actually, yeah,
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he did do something. He was aiding in a betting
that technically, technically he was helping him get to where
he was trying to be. My favorite part of it
was Uber before Uber. Yeah, but they had the phone
call and you know, we have to be guilty to
be aiding. I'm just saying that I don't know this
kind of a can we go back to coach? I
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would like to mention when Al Callings was driving and
they had the recording of when the cops are like,
you know, he's like this a C I got OJ
in the back. Yeah, they were like, uh, They're like,
who excuse me? Who is that? Who? I am totally
made it about him in that movie. You don't know
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who a comin? You're still a sidekick a c Come on,
it's Petros. Papa vegis AM five seven the l a
sports Fox college football analist. Petros. We appreciate it, thanks
so much. He's always prime. Ever find his phone they
got stolen from the locker? Yeah, yeah, whatever happened. It's
like his jewelry too, they were they returned all of it.
(44:44):
Maybe it's a homeless guy at USC. They said it
was an active If it was that bum at USC,
well they said it wouldn't happen at USC. I'm calling
the s C came this week. Don't make me talk
about the homeless pun okay return er, excuse, Yeah, very good.
I just hope you talk about coach. I'll throw it
out you know what, I'll throw it out there. I'll
put I'll put coach prime on my board of candidates
(45:06):
for the game, you know, coming out of the second quarter. Okay,
what do we got here? We got Matt Campbell, we
got Luke Fickle, we got the guy Joe Brady and
the NFL. We got coach get him on Twitter at thet.
We appreciate it. Man, let's do it again soon. Franklin.
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Stop can we dump that? Stop? Stop stop that dump
that there? He is needs the hair that. I think
you'll get Fickle lot of it though, Like I think
that's how the chess pieces move. I hope so they
away from State College. Man. Yeah, I did we get
(45:50):
anything accomplished on that interview though? I mean well, yeah,
I mean we we brought up the homeless guy that
was there. We got a new way of saying coach Prime,
that that is a dope sound bite from like I think,
I mean, it's not the wildest thing. Like obviously I
think he couldn't think you're onto something, Brady, I I listen.
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I know, Pops is like being trying to be as
literal as possible in that moment. But dude, coach Prime
could be like the best thing that happened for program
would have to be dependent on his on his staff,
but aren't every every head coach has to be dependent
on their staff. And he could get he could get it.
(46:31):
He could get the type of staff that could run
a USC. They would get all the recruits. No, I
mean there's every By the way, here's the only other
thing that I think when when you say, oh, well,
like we need to get a coach here who can recruit.
First off, it's Southern California recruits itself. And now with
N I L you just have to have to spend
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the money. Like forget who the head coaches. I don't
care if it's Prime or anyone else. All you have
to do is write a check to these kids for
N I L money and they're coming. Like you just
have to be able to get out your checkbook and
and and write bigger checks than your competition. It's not
hard to recruit anymore that now that everything is basically
legalized in regards to name, image and likeness and how
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where's your errors? I actually, I don't think my kids
have ever been to Chucky Cheese, so they don't they
don't know that. Um, because my oldest is five. It's
it's says she's not really old enough to truly enjoy it.
(01:05):
I don't think maybe she is. I don't know, but
I I did not remember that until we played it
with yesterday. Yes, there's the first time that god out long. Yeah,
there's you know, the great thing about Chuck E Cheese
they serve pictures of beer, like remember that, you get.
The weird thing about Chuck E Cheese for me is
you have this this great conundrum, Right, you grow up
(01:29):
being afraid of rats, Like I still hate rats to
this day. Right, but you sit one lap. But you
made your main character of the place a rat, Right,
it's kind of weird. Yeah, it is weird. Yeah. I
think it's like me being terrified of snakes and then
you show up and there's a giant snake like roach,
(01:50):
you know what I mean? Like, hey, kids, let's play
some games. Hey that's a roach, man, give it a minute.
It'll be in the studio here, so you know, hey Brady,
Hey Brady, there was a roach the other week that
came walking by, strolling by the size of a direct
TV remote like like like you're at his house, bro,
(02:13):
Like it just finished taking a shower, got breakfast, got
got a cup of joe, like was hanging out and
just like, hey guys, how y'all doing? Like he was
not going to bother us, not one bit. He he
didn't scurry. See I'm used to seeing you know them scurry,
you know what I mean, Like they don't run. Roaches scurry,
(02:35):
and that's just like skives, you know what I mean.
This roach was so cool and confident and just it
was so cool that I was like, I'm looking at
it like it's it's a roach. I know that's a roach,
But my mental roll index it wasn't computing that it
was a roach because the roaches and you know what
(02:56):
it is. It's probably because like it's in a comfortable environment.
He gets to listen to all kinds of entertainment all
hours of the day. I mean, listening to great lineups.
I mean, I guess the roaches I saw was like
they was trying to get the where they was trying
to go, just like we were trying to get to
where we were going. I was judging the roach, but
we was do one the same exact things. Yeah, I mean,
(03:17):
it's real out here in the streets. Yeah, I hear you.
So you're sitting that roach was relaxed. It was it
was like relaxed. That's a broadcast relax. If he keeps
that up, he's gonna end up on Big New Kickoff.
(03:39):
I'm telling you what, I'm killing him. Yeah, big big
TV star here, all right. So I gotta say this
about Aaron Rodgers, man, he looks a lot different when
he's not getting hit in the nuts. I'll say that quarterback.
I'm just saying, like, he's not taking any direct shots
to the balls, and next thing you know, he's delivering
died that throwing a ton in. How many guys in
(04:01):
the league can make that throw Brady, Uh, maybe there's five,
maybe five times. He's unbelievable. Man, some of the stuff
he's able to do. I mean, you know, he didn't
have as much pressure on him either. You know, what
do you mean You're not saying a little bit of
a different team. What do you mean the Detroit Lions,
You don't think they're the Saints. Took it on the chin,
But I'm gonna give them a pass because of all
the whole protocols or whatever that took place. But yeah,
(04:24):
it was a different that was a different set of
circumstances that Aaron Rodgers was under last night. And listen,
if anybody tells you that I wasn't sweating out a
potential backdoor cover with the lead eighteen and and some
people having it eleven and a half, and the Lions
Jerd Goff throwing into the end zone late there on
the fourth down. Some people were stressed out about it.
But nonetheless the Packers get on the board and they
(04:46):
figured things out and go one and one. Good for them.
A lot of bets there play. Let me they say
something too. By the way, um, you're when you're not
a good team, you know you don't do what's that?
You don't go for the fourth down? Okay, you you
don't go for it when you're in field goal range.
You take the points, you keep it within a one
(05:06):
score game. It really wasn't until a final touchdown where
it got out of reach. If they had just taken
the field goal when they were in field goal range.
I want to say what earlier in the late in
the third maybe instead of going forward on fourth down
when they did, that was the backbreaker for for Detroit.
They hadn't scored all half. It would have gave them
more momentum. And instead everyone wants to all the the analytics,
(05:30):
the statistics. You know what the statistics tell you. Okay,
you don't know if you really break down the fourth
and one or fourth and two. Then who actually gets
those conversions? It's the good teams. It's not the Lions,
all right, it's not a team that's a perennial like
struggling bottom dweller team. You kicked the field goal, okay,
(05:51):
then you hit your over from for the points which
should have came into play, and then it makes Jonah
sweat out. It makes him sweat out that spread even
more so. But by the way, throwing to the ball
in the end zone, it's like, dudes, fourth and three
just converted, extend to drive. Like there's so many times
I've watched this team going, yeah, this is why you're
(06:11):
gonna lose a lot of football games. You're just incredibly
missed managed right now. But I don't know what. Will
the Lions ever be good? Like, will they ever be
able to get a run game? Will they ever be good?
They're so bad that they have first ballot Hall of
Famers the scruntle with them. Yes, that's how bad you
got you. You're so bad you have players in retirement
that still got beef with you. You know what, you
(06:33):
know what they do too. I was thinking about this.
They tease you because if you were to go a
position my position, would you say that Matt Stafford has
been a top ten to fifteen quarterback in the NFL
the last ten years, Like if you're just like consistently
in top fifteen, okay, So, so he's been a top
half of the league quarterback. Calvin Johnson's one of the
better wide receiver talents we've seen in a long time.
(06:55):
They've had Barry Sanders there. Look, it's and and also
even after Calvin Johnson leaves, you know, Galladay was there,
Marvin Jones there, They they've had talent there. It's not
like this has been a team that's been been void
of talent up and down the roster. Like they've had
legitimate players there that have come through the organization. And
it almost gives you the disguise of well maybe you
(07:18):
know I mean, and then you and then you see
him on Thanksgiving and you're like, God, same old thing again.
It's just they never can figure it out. I have
more faith and some of the other bad team. I
have more faith in Jacksonville. I'm telling you this right now,
being able to figure out whatever it is they're trying
to figure out than the Lions. I just if I'm
a Lions fan, they just tease you, give the impression
that they've got real talent and real players, only to
(07:40):
roll out a four or five win season seemingly every
single year. That's a lot of teams. That's the sad
thing about Brady said it on another other show at
at another point in time. You're literally talking about the
vast majority of teams and the lead and you want
to know what's you want to know what's even more interesting.
(08:01):
I'd rather if I'm if I'm from a place with
one of these types of teams, I'd rather my team
just all the ways suck like the Lions, versus a
team that may or may not like like the Bengals.
Like they'll make it to the to the playoffs. You
know they're not gonna win the super Bowl. You know
(08:21):
they're not gonna make a real run to to win
the super Bowl. I mean it happened, what like one time,
the Ikey Woods era shuffle, Like, you know, the Browns
aren't winning the super Bowl. You know, as good as
they are this year, they're not winning it. You know it.
I can do the shuffle by I would rather, I
would rather, Like you you gotta go back to the
(08:44):
Webster Slaughter Area era and and the yeah Kevin Kevin
Mack come on that the big big running back Kevin
Mac represented what the Browns it the dog like mac
like it was like biggest shoulder pads in the history
(09:06):
of the league. And and even when it's seemingly could
be a thing, my man earnest fumbles and and the
whole thing about it is is that something is going
to go wrong with one of these teams. It doesn't
matter if they're going to get further or if they're
just going to be bad to begin with. So I
(09:27):
almost kind of respect the fact that Detroit just gives you. Listen,
chair for us, you're from here, or you like something
about the Detroit Lions. I have no idea what it
would be. Maybe you like Lions, maybe you like Blue Lions.
I don't know, but chair for us and support us,
because otherwise you're not getting anything else. I'd rather have that.
(09:49):
I'd rather respect that. Like I know, we're probably gonna lose,
so if we win, it's a bonus. Here's the hard part, though,
is they gonna sell something. So every one of these
franchise cells optimism to their fan base. But the reality is,
because I think we talked about this at one point
time before the season started, but like, does every team
(10:10):
go in to the season thing they can win a
Super Bowl? And honestly, I think if you played in
the NFL long enough and it only takes probably a
few years, you kind of say to yourself, and especially
you've been on different teams, like, yeah, no, like this
team is not good enough. Like this team like it
would take a incredible amount of luck for us to
(10:33):
be able to get there, even if you're one of
the better players. I mean, think about Aaron Rodgers frustration
with the with the Packers is he's he's been good
enough to get that team to back to back NFC
championship games, but he knows he's looking at the rest
of it saying, yeah, we're not good enough to be
(10:54):
able to win a super Bowl, like I have won one.
I know what it's like, Like we don't have those components.
They don't let me be a part of the conversations
so we can go win one. And so the crazy
thing is is when you think about teams like Detroit,
for example, what are they selling, Like, what are they
ultimately believe? Oh, it's a rebuild here. Okay, every year
is a rebuild year. But that's what you gotta sell,
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which is nuts to me. It's like like you're the vacuum,
right Like you're you're not dicon. You're at the top
of the line, vacuum that's gonna last, that has a
great warranty, it's gonna actually pick crep up off the floor.
You're like the generic brand. That's like, we're just trying
to make some sales. You know, we're just trying to
win a few games here and there. We're just trying
to do our job every once in a a while. And
then you know, you have to get a new you
have to get a new vacuum and start over again.
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I mean, like like use the analogy you want, like
they are the brand that like it's just it's there.
It's not it's not gonna be overly impressive. It may
be better at times than something else, or may surprise
some people, but it's it's never gonna be what you
ultimately want, right Like they're they're just gonna suck the
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majority of the times. Generic vacuum like that that's what
it's gonna be. And yeah, but you know, I mean
come on. At least at least they got something. And
there's a lot of cities in this country they don't
have football team. Sorry, they asked the city of St.
Louis how they feel about football right now, I'll say this,
I mean Kansas City, they just got theirs. I mean,
they hadn't been like forever there was still they were
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still a competitive team, like they were going to the playoff. Yeah,
and they have history like all the way back, like
way way back, way, way way, there was some good
team and Nick Lowry goes, it goes further back then
it goes further back than Mary word, they didn't. They weren't.
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They weren't getting super bowls though they weren't. I'm talking
before modern day NFL like like it was the NFL
like that far back, you know, and they want a
super Bowl and now they're perennial super Bowl contenders. So
I just I don't I don't understand the phenomenon on
of it all the way. But there are just some
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teams you can bet the bank on it, They're not
gonna win it. You about the bank on it, you
know what I mean. That's what I'm saying, So take
it for sometimes you just got to accept. It's like
that relative that you don't like coming over for for uh,
you know, for the holiday. You just gotta take it
at face value. I don't really want you here, but
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I tolerate you being here. Or I don't want to come.
I don't want to go over your house, but I'm
going to tolerate it. Like it's like I don't like
coming in here and sitting with you, but I tolerate it,
you know what I mean. Like that's how it works,
like data stripper, you know, Like I was joking everybody
I enjoyed coming in with Tom Jonahs didn't laugh though.
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But here's the thing. I would say this, when you
date a stripper, not that I have, but when you
date a stripper, you just kind of have the expectation
there's gonna be two three nights a week where she's
gonna come home smelling like cologne. Just just a stripper.
I'm just saying. An exotic dancer, if you know, if
you are yea an exotic dancer. I'm just saying. So
if you're a Lions fan, you're not calling somebody on
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you know that takes care of you on a flight, Like, uh,
what is it. You can't call them strippers, man, there's
there's like there's the evolution, like you gotta have a
little bit more respectful. What would it be exotic dancer,
exotic dancer? I would say exotic dancer is a little
bit too exotic, so ex you know, I just think
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that it just needs to Uh, professional dancer is very good.
They are professionals like you, Like, if you're a professional dancer,
tell me what type of dances are you doing? It
could be any type of dancing, Like you could be
a ballarie, you could be an expressive dancer. So just
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call them just like all right, you know what I
mean expressive dancers? A river a river dancing, you know
what I mean, a good point of the dance. It's
an expressive dancer and it's good. But but that it's
their pros, the professional and you can see a lot
of You've got to be in really good shape to
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be able to do some of the very flexible might
I had to be able to do some of the things.
I mean, it's three seventeen, so some of our homies
are probably listening to our show right now, and they
deserve to be able to enjoy sports. Thought radio shots
out to all you professional dancers that are either finishing up,
just starting your shift, whatever it may be. Because we're
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just starting our shift as well, and we're working late night,
early early hours too. So could this be a big
where lavargive shoutouts to part of the audience that maybe
people didn't didn't think about waking up thinking about right away?
How about it just like this about their professionals too.
They have to pay taxes to gash on it, and
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well for some of them, you know what I mean,
I mean that's us too. And I apologize for calling
strippers I was reading off. LaVar apologized. All right, I'm
glad you did. Be sure to catch live editions of
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar, Arrington,
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am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio.
Let me just ask you guys this because LaVar mentioned
this before. Brady you said, well, you know it's like
you just kind of go into these into these seasons
thinking we don't really have a shot at winning a
Super Bowl. Brady, if you heard the story about like
you're a big fan of John Madden. Correct, Like, I
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love John Maddens. Haven't heard John Madden say a bad
thing to anybody except for LaVar really horrible. So wait
what yeah, just eight kicking the nuts. I need to
hear that tell about the time John Madden that wore
steel toe boots and kicked you in the nuts. So
we were coming into the season and they were calling
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the game. I believe we were the first game of
the year we were playing. I want to say the Jets,
they still had Curtis Martin, they had Lamont Jordan's that year.
They they're a pretty good team, and we've I want
to say that was the year we brought in like
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Jesse armstad Um, the meat head from Philadelphia, the linebacker,
a couple other guys. I want to say we had
a pretty pretty interesting off season, which we always did,
but we were pretty stacked and still loaded from my
rookie year. And I'm in the production meeting and we're
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talking and John Munton is sitting there and he's like,
you know, He's like, yeah, yeah, you got a lot
of energy, LaVar. Like it's like you're really I like,
I like how you are. Like he's taught like he's
and I could like I didn't know him and didn't
have experiences with him. I'm just excited to be in
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this production meeting and I'm like, not knowing that I'm
being set up. You know, it was a setup. So
he gets me going and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm
with you. I'm with you. He's like, so, do you
think you're gonna win the Super Bowl? I was like, hell, yeah, yeah,
we're gonna win this thing. This is our year. I know,
I know it's been rough. Um we're gonna get it
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turned around, like this is the year, he says to me.
He makes first, he makes this face like, you know,
John hits you with a blank stare, like his stairs
are really blank, Like they're not they're they're they're fully loaded,
but the but the look you get is very very blank.
You're not reading it like he probably was at some
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point a really really dope poker player, you know what
I mean, Because you don't know what direction he's going in.
This man says to me, I will bungee cord out
of the good Year blimp over the fifty yard line
at halftime if the Washington football team, and he didn't
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say a football team said the other name, Um, if
they're playing in the super Bowl. Now, we haven't played
one game yet, Brady, we have not played one game now.
I'm curious to see what the look on your face was.
I just, first off, I felt really disrespected, like and
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back then, you gotta note I was loyal to the
soil and and I was. I was definitely like like
borderline ahole like I was. So I was so intense
about protecting our name and our team and our guys.
One time I threatened jay Leno, like I told jay Leno,
bring jay Leno's ass to to Washington Football which it
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wasn't that then, but it was our park back then.
It was our park. Right now is Washington Football Team park?
I would assume. I don't know, but it was our
park back then, park r R as in the letter are.
And so I'm not giving you, I'm not giving you
the whole name. Okay, that's what it's still it for. Right.
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So so I tell jay Leno, you bring your ass
to the park and and you put some pets on
and I'm kick your a. Right that got that got close.
So but I got And here's why jay Leno got it,
because I couldn't say that to John Matten. You can't.
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You can't disrespect John Matten. He's got three and a
half hours that have bashing your football and and I'll
make you slow in the video game. Well yeah that too.
There's just there's just some guys that you you just
you gotta respect them because of what they meant to
the game and what they're doing for the game. Still,
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John Matten was untouchable, So I ate that. But when
jay Leno did it, I told Jay Leno, i'mnna beat you.
I'm gonna beat you down, like and jay Leno caught
me that day it got out Luna Media. He called
me that day He's like, hey, look man, I didn't
mean it. It's material. You know, he's making fun of us,
like he was making fun of he was making fun
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of our team and we were make fund able, like
we were easy, easy targets. And yeah, so he said
he was bungee cord and if you know, so, if
you want to add insult to injury for those out
there who aren't aware of John Madden and and what
what makes this so disrespectful is John Madden does not fly.
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He will not leave the earth like he will not
leave the ground. He doesn't fly. He doesn't do anything
that would involve him leaving the ground. So he took
bust Is from place to place when he was doing things.
So never never flies, will not Madam Cruiser, Right, Yeah,
will not fly. So for somebody to tell you that
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they would do something that they never do in their life,
if you make it to the to the to the
super Bowl, tells you all you need to know about
how bad we really were in reality versus what we
thought we were in in fantasy. And what team was
was he talking about? Like the team that he was
talking about, Because you keep saying are as, I'm just
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trying to figure out our team, okay, saying we are Yeah, Brady,
I'm confused to have a Pittsburgh accent. What do you
mean our team? Maybe maybe I come from that Steers,
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you worked too hard at it because you know you're
not from there. It sounds like he's just walking up
the bar, all right. It is two pros and a
cup of Jones Slavarrington. Brady quitted Jonas knocks here on.
Comparently I wasn't much of a pro. Twelve minutes John
Matton was going to jump out of that that good
year blimp. It wasn't enough. It wasn't an indictment on you.
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It was an indictment on the team and where you
guys were at. I know we're all one when we're
part of the team, but felt like a loser before
we even started the season. Yeah, well, and I was.
I was strong in in in mind and in heart,
but my emotions, um, they were destroyed. John Gruden asked
me before a Monday night football game versus the Ravens
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when I was in Cleveland. He like dead faced, leaned
across the table and she goes, do you think you
guys can win tomorrow night? And honestly, there was like
you know how you got like that second or two
that runs through your head before you answer something, because
your mind's racing at what you actually think to say.
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And I said, yes, but I was thinking in my mind,
but we don't have to play our best game and
we're gonna have to catch them on an off night.
I mean, we were a one win team at that
point time in the season. We were a young football team,
but that was irrelevant, and we had got through so
much turnover on the roster, new scheme, new coach nude,
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all this stuffy, clear your throat. He he just gotta
lean back. Okay, I mean, but but he kind of
pressed me on it, and and my thing was, and
I've always been this way because the next thing where
my mind wentz W was' I'm always the type of guy.
Maybe it's like the whole Notre Dame mantra and all that,
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but like, what though the odds be greater or small,
I've always liked the odds stacked against me. I've always
liked that. I've always loved when people said, no, you
can't do something. I've loved that, like put put it
all against me, and let me see if I can't
show you what I can do. And look, more often
than not, you're probably gonna lose in those scenarios unless
you just have supreme talent, which that wasn't me. But
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I I think like I can still do it right.
Like I'll get on a golf course and there'll be
some shot and it's like I'm Kevin Costner and Tin
Cup because I'm like, I've got the ability to hit
this shot, but I don't practice him play enough to
be able to actually do it in this moment now
maybe one in particular, maybe one in ten times, or
maybe I should have had those ten beers before this
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this shot. But I'm sure as hell gonna try it
because I didn't come here to lay up, you know,
like I did. I didn't come here to lay down,
And so I think that way. I can't speak for
everyone else in our locker room, though, like that's what
I wanted to say, like you put me anywhere, and
I feel like I got a shot at winning. But again,
I don't know that everyone else is feeling that way.
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And that's that's the hard thing I think about the NFL,
Like the Lions last night, You're going into Lambeau in
Green Bay, and you probably wish the Packers would have
one Week one. You probably wish they wouldn't have got
the doors beat off of them in Week one by
the Saints, and so they wouldn't be coming into this
matchup for their home opener going, yeah, we're about ready
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to open up a can on these dudes. You know.
Let me let me ask you guys a question. Let
me just toss a hypothetical out at you guys. When
I was watching the game last night, I noticed I
noticed two things. One Aaron Rodgers isn't upset anymore. Like
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when you look at his face, he has a very
relaxed space, all right. And then I looked at Jared
Goff's face, and Jared Goff is like he's got the
w T F face, right, like he kind of always
has that though, yeah, but it's more pronounced. I think
it was a problem in l A because he had
that face, so like, we don't do this in l A.
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We're l A. We don't do that face. We'll get
you some plastic surgery to get rid of that. If
you what an attack on southern California. The thing about it,
the thing about it last night when I was watching it,
it was his body language. It was like it was
just like Jared Goff like ah, and I'll start thinking
to myself, would Cam Newton be a viable option for
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the Detroit Lions. They need a shot in the arm.
You know what the Detroit Lions need. They need a
a signature player. They don't who's their signature player right now,
but they're in they're in a full rebuild though, yeah,
why not? So why not get a stop guy? The guy?
That's why I think you need Jared goffs because I
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know this, he'll sling that football around like he did
it in college. He's done it so far as the NFL,
we saw a week one like they're gonna be down
a lot of games. I mean, you watch that defense
with a Kuda out the best cover corner. They can't
get much pressure. It's gonna fall on his shoulders to
be able to sling the football around. And so I
think that's the difficulty. Is what about trading off because
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they're not good, So trading off the fact like all
conventional wisdom like Okay, he can sling the ball around
a Couda's out, Like I get all that, But what
about mentality? What what about like kind of like belief
like oh, like I look at Cam and it's like
maybe I believe we can win. Like I know CAM
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isn't the best at this point. I don't think they
care if they win. I don't care. I think there's
a full blown rebuild. I think it's a rebuild without
having to say players I understand, but I just think
the organization is not going to put them in the
best spot to succeed. I think the only concern is
with with Cam is this Cam want to go to
that situation. If he goes there and he's put in
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a a tough position to be in, like any quarterback
that place there by the way, like I don't care
if Matt Stafford stayed there, which there's a reason why
he went up to the front office and asked for
his course. He knew what was coming. And if any
whatever players there, they're going to struggle. And if I'm
cam Newton, and given how things went in New England
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and given how things have kind of gone now at
this point time in my career, with the way things
that in Carolina, you gotta be particular about the opportunities
that you take because it might be the last one.
But what if it's already happened though for me, I
don't know that he has that luxury at this moment.
It could be and he might have to wait until
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next year, but he's made enough money where he's got
the ability to do that. I just think at this point,
I don't know that I'd want to go on and
be a part of the Lions when I'm not in
their future plans. No matter what he does this year.
To Jonas's point, they're in a full rebuild I don't
know if that would be the way I'd want to go,
because I'm thinking to myself, this could be it is
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this how I want to go out? Or do I
want to try to have an offseason some time to
actually be in an offense where I have a shot
at being able to execute play at the high level,
play it the way I've I've experienced previously in my career.
That would that be my thoughts, and I think those
days are long gone. I think it's more about to
me if I'm trying. I'm just looking for an opportunity
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at this point, I think all that. I don't think
he thinks, yeah's already there, like so this is it? Then? Yeah,
I don't know. I think he's still got that like
one last shot. You're someone else man for for believing
that deeply and think this is it. Like if he
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doesn't get picked up this season, it's over. Well, what
I'm saying is the days of him being an m
v P and playing at that level have have gone.
They've passed. So he's not going to make a team,
Like what team would he go to and make better
where he would have the opportunity to go that what
Tampa Bay all right, Well, I mean I don't know
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that he'd go anywhere to make them better. I think
it's the opportunity would fit right, Yeah, fit with what
and we're saying the same thing. Fit with a team
that has the type of talent where you just can't
mess it up. Indianapolis. I think he'd be a better
fit in Indianapolis. I mean, okay, let's kick the tires
on that one, because I think that that's another interesting
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one because they need it, right, they now need that,
Like I'm giving a hypothetic. I mean, the lines need everything.
But I've given a hypothetical about the line. So I
mean does that one work? Yeah? Well that I think
it's an interesting conversation. He's got, like what, he's got
two peg legs, four ankles, I think four of them.
Can we talk about that? Que talking about that? Yeah,
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we definitely need to get into that. That Brady, that
is an interesting pool right there. That percolated very quickly.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington and
Jonas Knocks week days at six am e staring three
am Pacific. Right now, we must welcome in. The Great
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Petros Papadakis. You hear him on A M five seventy
l A Sports. You also see his work on FS
one and beyond. He's basically the voice of Hawaii football
on Fox Sports one. The Great Petros Papa. What's happening?
I know, if I don't, I love the Rainbow Warriors.
But if I don't have to see him again this year,
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I think I'd be okay with that. You know that
those are fighting words with Jonas. It's it's bad. I mean,
nobody anybody on the East Coast. I mean it was
four in the morning when we got done, four thirty
in the morning on the East Coast. But we were
in really we're primetime in Thailand. There you go. But
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you know, you know in Bangkok they love uh, Calvin
Turner's their favorite football player. And but yeah, Hawaii and
San Jose State on Saturday Day night, I think they
must have had a combined and I'm not kidding drops
thirty drops, yeah, and like thirty punts. And I'm not
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a guy who needs the game to be forty five
to ten or you know, really high scoring game and
to have a bunch of touchdowns to call, I'm not
that guy, but man, that was a slog on Saturday
night and early in the morning. How do you announce
that drop? I just say, we're having some trouble with
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the football. You tell them to build a package show
and everybody dropping the ball. The funny thing was like
it was an empty stadium because of the protocols in Hawaii.
It's an island. If a bunch of people get sick,
they can't just ship them to another state or bring
in a bunch of doctors. It's it's an island, so
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they have a different way of handling things. And they
didn't have anybody in the stadium, and they had our
feed and this happened sometimes with kind of more of
a smaller school. They just had the game feeding back
to their big gass scoreboard. So you imagine like all
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the players just standing there watching the packages that we
kept putting together over and over and over again, and
it just got contagious. It was a pandemic of drops. Yeah,
but that it's over now and San Jose stayed, escaped
and survived. But that's a tough trip. Yeah, no, no, no,
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no doubt about that. It can also be a tough
trip going to Pullman, Washington. Uh, Petro, It's not not
sure if you solve that. But oh yeah, I know
what happened the the USC didn't they fired This is
actually true. They fired their security guy years ago. They
hadn't been to Pullman's ends and he's the only guy
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that remembered how to get off the plane in Pullman
because it's a smaller plane, and so they all ran off. Well,
they didn't open the back door that you got to
open up at the same time and get everybody off
at the same time. Otherwise you do the hydraulics like
you're rolling in your sixth four. And they just popped
up in Lewiston, I know. But they went in and
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one they came back. You'd expect the USC to win
that game, and you'd expect him to win the game
and Pullman the way they wanted. But kind of the
script of how it happened was very unique. Yeah, it
definitely was Another unique place to land a an aircraft
would be in Well State College, Pennsylvania. Here we go.
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What you did, I mean, did you catch any of
that aburn? Well, you know, I was deeply concerned about
the night and before, which was my Maryland Illinois clash. Yeah,
how do you feel about that? Uh? Maryland pretty explosive
to his little brother, ty Leah is a fun, twitchy player.
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They always have great perimeter yeah, and they have him.
They have a Dante Demons. Uh, so they have They
always have great perimeter play and really good perimeter play
on the defensive side of the ball too, And it
looks like they're getting better up front. Illinois obviously not
a great football team, but that was a recipe for
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any team to have a disaster right opening of the
conference on the road at night on a weekday. That's
you know, and you just played Howard, so you know,
I mean they did survive. But and Maryland's got a
big weeknight matchup coming up with Iowa, which will be
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interesting on a Friday night on Fox as it's the
early part of the Big Ten. But yes, I saw
Penn State a little bit beaten up on the the
Auburn Tigers under the new coach from Boise, Brian Harrison,
and they looked formidable. Now it's you've beaten Wisconsin and Auburn.
Has that got you in the top five yet? No,
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it hasn't. Well, that's unfortunate. It really is, though it's
a crying shame, man. I I think personally the eight
people was something against Pence. They don't know what it is.
I can't can't imagine what it is. But Petro's I
gotta ask you about, well, get something, Yeah, I gotta
ask you about what is? What's what's thrown out there?
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In regards to the head coaching search there at usc UH,
Dion Sanders became potential candidate at least right coach Pride.
Could coach Pride? Could he work at at usc like?
I can't honor that with an answer. I don't know.
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I mean, I think USC is looking for a program builder,
and I don't really know if Coach Prime has proven
that he's got the ability didn't do that yet. I
think USC has gotta They've got to dig deep and
make less of a of a splash higher and more
of a we need this for the next ten years
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of the TV deal as a conference type of hire.
And if they went and hired Coach Prime actually would
be so absurd that I think I would come out
the other end in full support. But I didn't know that.
I mean, I think the Penn State coach would probably
be bet don't do that. Let's let's revisit Prime, Like, no, no,
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I'm not gonna let you do that. Yeah, let's go
like think about this. You're you're talking about get a
guy that that is a more program builder. I mean,
you guys don't give guys time to build programs that
what are you talking about? It was seven years watching
Clay held he fired fifteen assistant coaches. Is that not time? Like?
What do you want? I don't, I don't know. It's
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just so much turnover. This it's it's the last three
coaches at USC have been fired in the middle of
the season. Was seven years for Clay House seven seven
years of ineptitude and a guy that everybody knows can't
hire staff. The first two people Clay Helton called when
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he got the job, when he got the actual coaching
job and they pulled the interim label off him and
Pat Hayden hired him. The first two people he called.
Now you have to think, like, who's the first two
people you would call if you got a head coaching job.
Who would coach Bron call? Who would he call? Michael
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Irvin and Emmett? You know, like, who are the first
two people you would call if you got the USC
job to come. The first two people Clay Helton called
was his there and his father's best friend, and they
were both at Western Kentucky and he brought them in.
They but they both ended up having to be fired
like a slew of other assistants just to keep Clay
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Hilton is like this paper figurehead in charge at USC.
It's obviously a formula that just didn't work. You don't
run a program like that. The first two people you
call have to be like Tom Herman and Brett Venables.
They you have to make people tell, you know, in
a situation like USC. When it comes to Franklin Sony coordinators,
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has he fired? Though offensively, we haven't been good on
offense since UH coach Moorehead. Lev Morehead was the man
bro still is, Yes, yes, still is, and and so
well they don't throw it to the wide receivers, but
that's more of a crystal ball thing. And Oregon, but
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though they have two xpen state coordinators in the Northwest,
one is on the only hope in the Northwest for
the college football playoffs at this point in the season,
more Headed Oregon. The other ones the dude Donovan at Washington.
Who's just about to walk the plank into the sound.
They are struggling. I don't know why you would pull
(41:21):
any of those guys to another program, to be anc
They just haven't been good since more hit, So I
wouldn't be concerned about that with with Frank. Just be
concerned about someone else. Don't okay, I don't bother, don't
doesn't matter what I say. Pop, don't even put it
out there. Man, I don't want we go back to Coach.
(41:41):
I was trying to pull I was trying to hoach.
I was trying to pull the conversation together. No, no, no,
yea trying to you guys are trying to make me
say something meeting Yet, who else is suggested Coach Prime
for any job ever, other than the job that he
he was He was a Florida State by the way.
(42:03):
By the way, the reason why I think Coach Prime
would not end up at USC as if he takes
another job, it would probably be Florida State. They have
more money, it's the recruiting talent, it's his alma mater.
They've already kind of made a run at Florida State
has more money than USC He's got a lot more
than I think you realize. Yeah, I look up the endowments.
(42:26):
Put it this way. They barfed money, but they've been
cash stractive late, right, I mean, why did they get
rid of Clay Helton sooner because they didn't have any
replacement or they didn't have enough cash. They want to
buy him out because they wanted control of the program.
They've always had the cash. I mean, look, if you
ever been to any universities, like they're always constantly rebuilding,
like they're the only places that look good in the
(42:49):
world right now, like every universe, Like you go to
a university or like, oh look, it's very different from
the last time I was here six months ago. They've
built seven new buildings and eighteen new and elements, and
they're still calling everybody and asking for money. Don't ever
give your money to a college ever they call you
hang up seriously, like it's better just to throw your
(43:11):
money down to a toilet. My god, so they could
build something else, Like all they do is build unless
they put your name on their like, give my name
on that. They got an al Callings building at sc ohez.
Really he didn't do anything wrong, you know, No, I
mean he's just a job. In fact, he did everything right. Actually, yeah,
(43:31):
he did do something. He was aiding in a betting
that technically, technically he was helping him get to where
he was trying to be. My favorite part of it
was Uber before Uber. Yeah, but they had the phone
call and you know, we have to be guilty to
be aiding. I'm just saying that I don't know this
kind of a can we go back to coach? I
(43:55):
would like to mention when Al Callings was driving and
they had the recording of when the cops are like,
you know, he's like this a C I got OJ
in the back. Yeah, they were like, uh, They're like,
who excuse me? Who is that? Who? I am totally
made it about him in that movie. You don't know
(44:19):
who a comin? You're still a sidekick a c Come on,
it's Petros. Papa vegis AM five seven the l a
sports Fox college football analist. Petros. We appreciate it, thanks
so much. He's always prime. Ever find his phone they
got stolen from the locker? Yeah, yeah, whatever happened. It's
like his jewelry too, they were they returned all of it.
(44:44):
Maybe it's a homeless guy at USC. They said it
was an active If it was that bum at USC,
well they said it wouldn't happen at USC. I'm calling
the s C came this week. Don't make me talk
about the homeless pun okay return er, excuse, Yeah, very good.
I just hope you talk about coach. I'll throw it
out you know what, I'll throw it out there. I'll
put I'll put coach prime on my board of candidates
(45:06):
for the game, you know, coming out of the second quarter. Okay,
what do we got here? We got Matt Campbell, we
got Luke Fickle, we got the guy Joe Brady and
the NFL. We got coach get him on Twitter at thet.
We appreciate it. Man, let's do it again soon. Franklin.
(45:29):
Stop can we dump that? Stop? Stop stop that dump
that there? He is needs the hair that. I think
you'll get Fickle lot of it though, Like I think
that's how the chess pieces move. I hope so they
away from State College. Man. Yeah, I did we get
(45:50):
anything accomplished on that interview though? I mean well, yeah,
I mean we we brought up the homeless guy that
was there. We got a new way of saying coach Prime,
that that is a dope sound bite from like I think,
I mean, it's not the wildest thing. Like obviously I
think he couldn't think you're onto something, Brady, I I listen.
(46:11):
I know, Pops is like being trying to be as
literal as possible in that moment. But dude, coach Prime
could be like the best thing that happened for program
would have to be dependent on his on his staff,
but aren't every every head coach has to be dependent
on their staff. And he could get he could get it.
(46:31):
He could get the type of staff that could run
a USC. They would get all the recruits. No, I
mean there's every By the way, here's the only other
thing that I think when when you say, oh, well,
like we need to get a coach here who can recruit.
First off, it's Southern California recruits itself. And now with
N I L you just have to have to spend
(46:51):
the money. Like forget who the head coaches. I don't
care if it's Prime or anyone else. All you have
to do is write a check to these kids for
N I L money and they're coming. Like you just
have to be able to get out your checkbook and
and and write bigger checks than your competition. It's not
hard to recruit anymore that now that everything is basically
legalized in regards to name, image and likeness and how
(47:12):
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