November 5, 2021 • 40 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar defend Aaron Rodgers against the haters. The Browns are prepared to release OBJ into the ether of lesser teams. Brady explains why ESPN is fighting against the CFB Playoff expanding past 8 teams. Plus a look ahead to the weekend with Over/Unders.
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the media who are gonna get it. We will get
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crowd in house here, Uh, Brady Quinn is he is
fueled up and ready to go because it is uh
what do we call it? Is it? Yeah? Well, because
you're you're also going to make an appearance on the
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Dan Patrick Show after that's almost forgot about? And so
what do we call it? We was it like Quinn
Sports Radio or something like that? What do we call
call it? Any of that? I think we did? Do
we call it the sunset Terrace? No? We did? We
call it that. You are unbelievable, Yeah, just unbelievable. Let
us not quick. You're going to pivot change something. We're
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not trying to make this about me, you know. Promotion. Yeah,
you're just you know, a little jealous of this head here,
I think, But hey, I have another one right here
if you're interested, it's right here. Already felt about much,
We've already got here tonight. Um, Kennon bowl through Like
I've never seen that big old You're like, oh my god,
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what's that? So? Um? The Aaron Rodgers situation, there's a
report out um from you know, Mike Florio, who you know,
just always a trusted source of no agendas, no hard
feelings or anything. You got to guess. Mike shuts out,
what's up, Mike, Listen to the man. He's like, great, dude, Uh,
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you know, just just a solid guy. What's through and through.
It's just you know, listen. That's a whole another conversation
for a whole another time. But point being um, there's
a report out that Aaron Rodgers is very upset that
his vaccination status was allowed to get out by the NFL,
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that he's piste off so masterful. I just love the
way this dude, Like when you come across somebody who
can manipulate things the way that he does, it is
so enjoyable, wonderful. I mean, talk about a flipper. Like
you could sink deep into this. You could feel embarrassed,
you can There's a lot of different things you could
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be trying to reel from in this scenario. You're cat
basically right and in a moment of truth where you're
caught and you're trying to figure out and do what
it is that you're trying to figure out and do
and execute, as Aaron Rodgers in this season, in a
moment like this. He flipped it, and I like, I
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am and listen for all the people out there that
fall on both sides of this topic, right, it's like
pro con. He's appealing to the con people of of
you should have pro choice on if you want to
do this vacs and for the people who are for it,
and they're like, you need to be vaccinated, they're sitting
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there and they're looking at it, like, yeah, he does
have a point. I mean, we did invade his privacy,
so he puts something out there for both sides to
be able to say. I don't agree with him not
getting the vaccination. He got what he deserved. But man,
he he's kind of right, like he's kind of making
you think, right, yeah, maybe that brings us somewhere in
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the middle where we can start to be reasonable with
one another about these sorts of things because people look
at it. And now you're getting people that are sticking
at well, you know, Carson Watton saw. I mean, he's
not vaccinated, but at least he has respected he's wearing
a mask. It's like all the like. So now now
those guys are getting defended after they were getting trashed
on in the off season because they didn't want to
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get vaccinated, and it's like, well, it's not like Rogers
didn't try and do something. He did try and do something.
And Brady made the point yesterday. A lot of these guys,
this is their livelihood. Maybe not all of them, are
going to trust every single ingredient that goes into their body,
which is why they look how many guys go do
the blood spinning stuff over in Europe to try and
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get better like all like, like guys go all over
the world. There's a lot of things that are not
allowed by the f DA here and and medically here
that are allowed elsewhere, whether that's Canada, whether that's Germany,
whether that's China. And I know players who've gone to
all three to get stuff done that they couldn't get
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done in the United States in order to come back
and play. And you can take up with whether or
not that's illegal, right just because we don't allow something,
but the reality is that's what they're doing to their
own body. That's their personal choice. You know, whether or
not our country has allowed something because there hasn't been
enough research or studies done to tell us whether or
not it's safe, doesn't matter. They're still taking that initiative
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to pay out of pocket to go do that. So
kind of a different scenario, but in this case, he
went his own route of trying to figure out a
way of immune and immunized. Hard. That's a hard word
to say, right if I just pick a car, any car?
Al Right. The NFL now is investigating all of this.
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Are we going to see this report? I mean, are
we going to see this report from them? I mean
there's other reports out there that apparently we cannot see,
but this one. Something tells me, this one that is
going to be made open to the play. I think
that was in one of the six emails they scanned
through in d C. Now, his head coach, Um Matt Lafleura,
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spoke with the media yesterday and you could tell Matt
la flour is probably getting a little bit annoyed with
the questioning here, did you talk to Aaron? He? Is
he doing all right? Yeah, he's doing well, and um,
you know we just wait the sucker out. Are you
sure feel that strongly that you guys did nothing wrong,
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didn't cut any breaks for Aaron in terms of the
protocol as far as the football space is concerned, I'm
confident I mean the interviews though, is that on a
football space? I mean it's you know, social distancing, you know,
I don't know to tell you again, why ask questions
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with the expectation that coaches or players are going to
tell you the truth? Like that's like, oh, so can
you tell me why you did this? And do you
think that it was the right call to make? Like
expect the most misleading response that you can receive. Nobody's
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going to give you where where the rabbit hole is.
I'm not taking you to home base. I'm not taking
you there. Why even as the last I think the
one of the reasons why the media is so outraged
by it, and this was brought up multiple times, is
because for the the interviews conducted oftentimes indoors, he wasn't
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wearing a mask, which puts maybe those media members at risk.
And if if if, obviously if they were following protocols
every or else, he wasn't putting any anyone else at risk.
It was because they feel like they were the ones
that were at risk the most. But isn't he getting tested?
So what are we talking about? Well, if if, if
they assume and that's the thing that we don't know
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is if they assume he's unvaccinated, they would be testing
him all the time. Probably at that point they if
they were following it, they would have been. Because I
heard the packers knew he wasn't vaccinated. I mean, how
did that they know he's he's not vaccinated. If anybody
knew he wasn't vaccinated, it's the packers, and they are
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going to follow the proper protocols of him not being vaccinated.
That's you can't you can't skip over that. It's not
oh we didn't know, or oh we just acted like
we didn't see it, or he said he handled it himself.
They were going to follow the protocols with any player
that was not vaccinated. So the packers knew, and the
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packers were taking the proper protocols. So, like you said,
if he is getting tested regularly, the problem, then you
don't have any beef. Like squash your beef, bro, because
if he's in the room with you and you're there,
he's already been tested a ton of times to see
if he's clean or not because he's not vaxed. And
and to that point, if he's saying he was saying again,
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immun alright, I think I got it now amunite? Sorry,
So if he's saying that, then they may be under
the belief also. See to me, the first thing that
says to me is he had it. He's already had it, right,
That's what it says to me. How do you get
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into Hawaii without being vaccinated? He's basically telling you, I
have natural antibodies for this this, And a lot of
the cons like the people who are not pro vaccinations,
are saying, listen, if I already have gotten this this,
you know this this virus and it hasn't killed me,
And what you're shooting into me, I'm already making naturally,
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I'm already creating those antibodies, so I'm good. So to me,
they're testing him. The beef becomes control. This is about
control and who wants to control. Media has always been
at the forefront of controlling things. As it applies to
the mass messaging that comes from and resonates from everything
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that we consume, they lose more and more control because
everybody is figuring out how to put their own messages
out through their own their own platforms and vehicles. And
this is one of those moments where they've been had
and they didn't like it, and you're still getting manipulated
right now because the Manden just flipped it on y'all,
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like you're jumping into my privacy. This is something that
you should have. This should be off limits to me
as an athlete. This should be off limits to you guys.
The poking and prodding and priding into my private life.
I'm with you because if you want to start asking
these questions, then why are you asking about every little
other thing? Everything one's personal health and everything round and everything.
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It's like I said this before, we were outraged and
going crazy over to coronavirus. I can guarantee you there
are dudes walking around that have some serious s circulating
through their bodies. I can guarantee you like something that
in in in reality, you don't want to transmit that
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to someone used to call that the jump off, right,
all right, So that's so let's be clear here and
nobody walking around with that. I'm clean car with every
one of those things you only get once, it never
goes away, kind of covers everything. You're going to jump past.
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The lip bomb. Now here's the that's just stressed. I'm
just stressed out. Can I borrow your chip stuff that
only happens when I get stressed out. You know, it
gets too high. I understand, I get what you're even
even outside of that one, right, there's probably more, That's
what I'm telling there's probably more. So we didn't chose
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to focus in on this one. But there's dudes walking around,
and not to mention, there's other employees we don't know.
They're help us. Always done with done this with Rogers though,
like they do it about his family and his personal
life that it's so weird that that part is the
weirdest thing when people bring up I mean, are you surprised?
Look at his relationship with his family. That's crazy. Why
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is it anybody's business that? With urban Meyer too, they
do what people they don't why? And I think that's
what it is. They they like and and they find
Aaron Rodgers and they find something a while he doesn't
get along with his brother. I got news for you,
Hanker Horn right now, if you don't get along with
a sibling, everybody's been there. Yeah it's you don't. You
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don't have to piss off of the neighbor. But but
the point being, like, it's this idea that we we
deserve to know everything about him. He's he's a private guy.
He knows how to play the game, and he beat him.
I'm sorry. He found a loophole in his communication and
it took him three and a half months to figure
it out. And he doesn't fall off. He doesn't fall off.
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It's like, y'all throw all this his way and he
just flies above y'all. You try so hard to bring
him down. I like him more now. I sweart of God,
I'm a bigger fan of him now. He just do
you think he cares? Though? I do think it does,
And I think that's the only thing where you're right.
He got one over them. He won this, but to
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a degree he cares. It impacted him. It's just it's
just like the naivety. Is that naivety? Is that what
we call? Yeah? How about that? You know a couple
of words Smiths here at four. So, but I just
how naive people in the media are that they think
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that these guys are always telling us the truth. No,
they're not. I go into every single anytime I hear
an athlete or a coach say something, I just go, oh,
that's probably a lie. Like there's probably something that's not
true there because I don't deserve to know everything. It's
it's I don't deserve to know every little aspect of
everybody's life. It's like it's not proper. No, it's like
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the guy who the buddy you take to the strip
club who goes, hey, man, I think she's really into me.
It's like, what, like, do you smell the other guy's
brute cologne? All right? Like she's not into you. She's
trying to make money. These people are so naive they think,
well they've they're of course they're telling us the truth.
We deserve know. You don't deserve to know anything. You
deserve to know what they tell you. He told you
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something he got beat for three months of those he
thought he was like that buddy was me. No, it
wasn't you. It's a different buddy. But he really really
he really thought like he was like, oh no, no,
she really likes me. Like they just they like made out.
I'm like, this is no, don't don't do this. Man
like this happens by night. Probably shout out to Jake
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fs ARE. We are going to get to a story
in the world of football. If you were waiting for
a major change to take place, you might be waiting
a little bit longer. We will get to that here,
uh in a little while, but we do need to
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update you on a story that We've been talking about
the Odell Beckham situation in Cleveland. He was sent home
for a second day in a row yesterday by the
he told not to come to practice a second day
in a row yesterday in Cleveland. Uh. This following his
dad's All twenty two release tape on on Baker Mayfield
missing him, you know, And and Brady, I gotta tell
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you that, you know a couple of you know, football guys,
you're just talking. You know. I didn't think his I
didn't think he had the proper depth on those slugo routes.
You know those banks, you know those bang ages. Yeah,
I do, but more like three and a half. But
point being point. So, so here's the story now, Um,
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Mike Garifolo is reporting that if it's not today and Brady,
you alluded to this, um soon thereafter, But the Browns
are going to be parting ways with Odell Beckham and
they're they're restructuring his contract to switch a portion of
it over to a base salary to make it easier. Right,
so make it easier, which is I mean again, it's
it's they're they're hoping. I think this is the intent,
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because he'll be subject to waivers, which when you're subject
to waivers, the packing order is worse team to the
best team gets a crack at you, and and he'll
get claimed, he'll get claimed. And the question becomes like,
if you're Jacksonville, you're you're putting in a claim. If
you're Detroit, you're putting a claim because your roster needs
his ability to talent. And that's where I think the
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Brown went out on this because somewhere, you know what
with us go deeper into black hole. You don't want
to play with us, We're gonna send you to the ether.
You thought you think Cleveland was bad? How about Detroit? Alright?
How about how about how about Jacksonville? Right now? You
thought it was bad? Here? Okay, yeah, we'll let you go.
You don't want to come, you don't play with Baker,
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We'll send you elsewhere. Then, how how do you like
them apples? And you will not clear waivers, and they
will look at you and say, okay, well, how much
better is this team getting with o'dale's edition. And then
and then now you're under that scrutiny. But look, they
can make it look like because because here's the difference.
If if he did clear waivers. He's not getting paid
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that same contract, right, that's the difference. So in the
way that they're looking at it, probably from the team's perspective,
is hey, look, we're gonna convert this into a base salary.
We'll keep a chunk of it here on our salary cap,
and we'll allow another team to claim you and they'll
have to pay for a smaller portion of that. Uh.
And that way, you still get paid what you want
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to get paid. And you know it's not that bad
of a deal for you, even though again you thought
it was bad. Here try going to a team with
no chance of making the plan. And now here's the
other side of that. Though. If i'm O b J,
I'm aware of that, and we have to figure out
and and this is something that you you got to
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take into consideration. This isn't new, right, This was going
on before the trade deadline, so all these conversations that
could have led to a healthy separation didn't happen. So
now you're beyond the point of where you could try
to make it a winning situation for everybody. They're going
to have to make concessions for oh b J that
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make more sense in favor of him than it does
for the Cleveland Browns to be able to get from
underneath that contract, or he doesn't have to do anything.
And that's the key to all of this. So while
it's true he probably wants to play, wants to be productive,
it wants to have an opportunity to be happy. But
if I'm staring out a situation where if I redo
my restructure my contract and I know I'm not hitting
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into another large contract situation, am I doing myself a
disservice by restructuring Because the first thing I'm immediately going
to think is I'm riding this year out. Well, y'all
got y'all gotta cut me, you gotta you gotta release me.
So he has two years left on his deal after
this year. And what gets interesting about that is he's
about a fifteen million dollar capit for the next two years,
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and you can make the case that he has not
played up to that number by any But so why
would I give that that power away. That's leverage. I'm
not giving that leverage away. And so you know, he'll
end up getting claimed depending on how much they absorb
right and put on their base salary there in Cleveland,
He'll end up getting claimed. The interesting thing is he's
got no dead cap after this year, so a team
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could claim him, test it out for a few months,
and if they don't like it, they can release him
and they can move on and they will not face
any sort of penalty within his contract for the next
two years remaining on the deal. I'm not clear on this.
If they release him without a restructuring, then they're they're
on the hook for this year and then they get
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from under it they take I think they would take
a hit for next year as well. They would because
of how the signing bonus they've given them their pro
rated out, so they would have to pay him beyond
next year, is exactly, and so that's why they're trying
to remove some of that to put it on their capital.
Just so everybody's clear out there, because that's a very
important piece to all of this is the restructuring is
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is all right? Let me ask you this, because if
he doesn't restructure and they release him, the Browns are
are still paying him and he gets to go where
he wants to go, right, it's not a waiver situation.
He becomes a free agent that can go where he
wants to go. There isn't a waiver situation if he
restructures right based upon the way that they would release
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him or the language of how the release takes place,
or does he have the clear waivers? Both ways, he
would have the clear waivers both ways. Both ways he
had the clear waivers. See, I'm not restructuring s I'm
not restructuring, not one thing, one thing, and my restructured.
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I'm gonna play this out because why again, if I'm
going to have to clear waivers and I know I'm
not going to clear waivers and I'm gonna end up
going to another team where I'm I'm potentially going to
handle worse environments than what I'm in right now. Golf
is not I don't I'm not gonna make golf better
than than you know, than Baker. But I'm not gonna
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say that. I don't know, Trevor Lawrence is a baby.
But they're not winning. Isn't that crazy? Like all three
number one picks though number one overall picks, all three
It because Detroit, Jacksonville just came from with Baker. I'm
not saying this much. Every one of those teams is
gonna be welcoming him like it's coming to America like
it's the King of Samunda. See, they're gonna be rolling
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out the red carpet, throwing the flowers like thank god
you're here. Every quarterback to be like, thank god you're here.
I've been waiting for you. Now, we do have some
odds on Odell Beckham's next team. So let's see. Let's
see how you guys, how you guys do with this
little game show music here from our friends in the back.
All right, damn right this is hell yeah, alright, alright,
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so here we go. Um, we've got some odds according
to odds checker Odell Beckham's next team, if released. All right,
anybody want to guess the favorite not named LaVar? Who
just looked at the screen. Anybody not named LaVar who
want to guest today? Look at it? None you. It's
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just so like, would you please just make a pick? Here,
just make a pick. I'm saying Detroit. Okay, Detroit's gonna
be up there. Um they winless team right now. They
absolutely are not not even close, not even close. They're
not even listed as well. Well. Part of it so
would be the cap space, not knowing what number they
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need to absorb. That's kind of the unknown right now. Um,
the Las Vegas Raiders number one at plus three fifty.
If the Ravens get Odell Beckham, you can forget about it.
The Ravens are second, the Saints or third. If the
Bills get him, you can forget about what. I don't understand.
These are all teams who would come after exactly. This
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is the scan, this is what they do. They're not
They're not going to give you the option of a
team that makes more sense, So they're going to give
you all these teams when all these teams are way
down the list, right. I do wonder if, because of
how Odell has handled this situation in Cleveland, that his
representation is sending to the teams, don't claim him because
he ain't comeing like you can claim him. But he's
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gonna sit out the rest of the year. Why not
Antonio Brown did that to the Bills, right, he probably regrets, well,
not now, but I think you know now upon for
the review he probably the only difference was is he
was gonna his feet were get frozen either way, because
remember he went to Good he went to the writers
after that. That's as cold as it gets in Buffalo
this time either way. And also it was just bad
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timing because it would have made more sense with his
foot issues if Rex Ryan was still the coach. So
I think I think it was just bad. That was
just I'm just saying he would have sleft that did speak.
One guy's one guy's banaka is another guy's ten acting.
You know what I mean. You are foul. You are
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a foul human being. Yeah, that is so bad. Oh
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it and you look at it was I mean that
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pulled pulled the blinds down. Please this so's like the
(27:09):
Howard Sterns, thank you put your shirt on? All right? So, um,
if you were waiting around for the college football expansion,
Brady quinn, uh, and we're gonna go ahead and get
ourselves some eight or twelve teams. It feels like we're
gonna be a little while correct. Two thousand twenty four
(27:33):
is the earliest. That's the earliest based on this this
current contract which those that agreement would have to come
together here in the next three or four months by
really all what is eleven conferences, so not just the
power of five, you have the group of five conferences
as well that would that would have to all come
to this agreement on how this expansion is gonna work,
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is gonna be eight teams? Is gonna be twelve teams? Um,
they'd have to figure that out in a three four
months span. Now. I'm never counting anything out because we
did adjust during a you know season with COPD and
we figured that out right conference only play and how
to make it all work. But it seems really unlikely
at this point, only because you've got a number of
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conferences who have varying concerns. You know, if you're the SEC,
do they want to open? Well? Really, first off, it
starts with it. It starts with ESPN. ESPN doesn't want
this to go to twelve teams because if it does,
that then automatically opens it up for other networks to
come in and bid for those games. And what's that
(28:39):
What that's gonna do is make what they already have
even that much more expensive. Now, if they went to
eight teams, all right, it's within the current language of
the contract for the College Football Playoff that they would
still maintain the rights to it. Because the only thing
that changes is instead of calling the New Year's six games, right,
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your semifinal games, national championship and then you got your
New year six around that it all rotates for the
semifinal games instead of calling it that, it would now
be the quarterfinals, semifinals, and the national Championship, which is
always bid off to whatever city hosted. So those six
New Year six games would be wrapped up into your
eight teams playing off to play for a national championship.
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If you guys can understand that ESPN still controls that now,
it does trigger a mechanism where the payout does increase
to like I think, like half of um a half
a billion dollars if they were to go to eight.
The problem is if you open this puppy up to
an open market and you let Fox, you let CBS,
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you let I don't know, maybe NBC, who knows who
else could be a player in it, maybe even streaming rights,
that's gonna quickly climbed to a billion dollars because of
the way college football viewership has been, how it's growing,
and in particular those games that they know are gonna
rate because you're more often than gonna get the biggest brands,
big matchups, that's what people are looking for, especially on
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the holidays when they rate. So you know, ESPN doesn't
want that to happen. They'd like to expand eight, but
not to twelve and then open up let someone else
have a piece of their pie. So they don't want
it to happen. The SEC doesn't want to say SEC
doesn't want it to happen because because they don't want
to have more teams have the opportunity to get in
at eight teams, they're going to dominate them. Look every year,
every year, there we got one in two right now.
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I mean you, so you start looking at things like that,
it's gonna be really hard to find an agreement across
all parties involved. And and that's it seems to be
the only thing expansion is that satisfies a lot of
the gripes that people have with the current college football
ranking system. And I think they they tabled talks. I
saw they tabled talks until December one to where they're
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just like, all right, we're not gonna have any more conversation,
and who knows that could be we're just getting through
the Thanksgiving holiday and then we figured out from there.
But it's like, it's so the point being if you're
bitching about Cincinnati siting at six and and and it's
still being four teams, it's a waste of time because
nothing's getting changed in the next couple of years. And
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this is this is like a moment in time where
it could impact the future of college football because if
if a Cincinnati were to get in and a Cincinnati
were to say, just say they made it in, they
don't even have to win it. If they made it
through to play in the National championship game, it changes everything.
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And they're the biggest as far as nonpower team, Like
they're the biggest threat because I'm trying to think about
the other teams. Are you CEF. I don't think anybody
thought you c F, if given an opportunity, could have
made it, could really have gotten a legitimate shot at
winning a title. Cincinnati feels like the best of the
bunch as far as non top four teams that they
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would have expanded. Now just Malison said as much. Right,
who obviously came from Auburn, who played you know, played
week in a week out in the SEC, has faced Alabama.
Uh now at UCF, he said, Look, he's like that
team is as talented as any I think they could compete.
So he said as much recently, I think you could
go one of two ways. There's so many antiquated ways
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that the system is set up now, meaning not all
conferences play the same amount of conference games. Um, not
all teams, you know, not all conferences play non conference
opponents that are actually worthy of something. And I'm not
saying an FCS opponent isn't worthy of getting that game.
They're gonna pay out from it, but it's essentially looked
as a layup, and and you don't if you don't
find that another conferences. So I think the first thing
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would be you try to make the four teams that
are going and playing it have a more level field
of comparison before we kind of jump into wanting to expand.
But ultimately, like if you want to have a brand
like Cincinnati or whatever other small school you want to
talk about, group of five, you gotta expand, right. That's
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what makes March Madness fun to watch is those Cinderellas.
I think the only thing that like this committee doesn't
want to happen is they know that if a Cinderella
gets to the semifinal, it ain't gonna rate. It's not
gonna be problem, you know, like George Mason, one of
the final four, it's one of the lowest rated final
fours in history. But but the best thing you can
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do is find the storyline to make ratings do what
like we we always say one not took this from
old here, but let's make it dance. You gotta make
a dance. And I'll tell you the one way you
can make this one dance. Think about this. We're talking
about how dominant Georgia is this year and how they're
a lock to probably play in that championship game one
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the Peach Bowl. Last year they only beat Cincinnati by three.
Both of them are trending in the same direction, but
one is being talked about and the most glare, glowing
and flattering way, while the other is being looked at
as a Cinderella team that may not even have the
opportunity to compete. But yet both of them played against
one another in a super competitive game last year, so
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I know a lot of the starters stars didn't play
for Georgia that game though, had a lot of guests.
Then there's that, right, Then there's which is there's only
gonna be more of that, by the way, if you
don't expand, and it's the Peach But yeah, and then
it's the it's the Peach Bowl. So some teams, if
they're not playing in the playoff, they ain't playing hard regardless.
So I mean there's that. But with that being said,
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there is a a history between these two teams that
is very recent that they could possibly make it dance
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So we're gonna be looking at the Titans at the
Rams this week at fifty two and a half under.
No Derrick Henry. I don't know how that's gonna look.
Why don't you just von Miller on the Rams waste
some time? Like the reason you picked the unders because
I picked the under has nothing to do with Derrick
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good enough defense in this game about both teams. Fifty
two is a lot of points. What else this game?
All right, Browns are without Odell Beckham and not that
it matters, but Baker may feel passing yards in this
game three and a half? First, this is statement, who
are they against? Since Natty? Yeah, I'm gonna take the
under on that. Okay, when when's the lassion? This game
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was good Bengals, Browns over and Bernie problem just somewhere. Yeah, yeah,
it's been a while. I love me some Bernie cos are.
I'm taking on this one, all right, what el you guys,
Jordan's Love is getting the start versus the Chief's number
of passing touchdowns for him one and a half. I'm
taking the under. I'll take the over. Um, garbage. This
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is tough because garbage. It's been bad. Yeah, it's been bad.
They have and I think the Packers is gonna try
to run the football. They will, like, do you do
you think Matt Lafleur trust Jordan Love throw the football
down around the goal line? I don't know if do
you think he trusts Jordan's Love? Tanyans out? You don't
even have to give. You don't even have to give
an We're going to run, all right, you guys. Lamar
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and passing yards for Lamar seventeen and a half over
he's back off of by let's go over. Plus he's
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tell you. Three seventeen and a half. How about that,
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I'm saying the over. He's rested. I'm not convinced the
defense is still suspect. I'm taking the under. All right,
last one, let's go Lee. All right, you guys. A
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crowd in house here, Uh, Brady Quinn is he is
fueled up and ready to go because it is uh
what do we call it? Is it? Yeah? Well, because
you're you're also going to make an appearance on the
(01:25):
Dan Patrick Show after that's almost forgot about? And so
what do we call it? We was it like Quinn
Sports Radio or something like that? What do we call
call it? Any of that? I think we did? Do
we call it the sunset Terrace? No? We did? We
call it that. You are unbelievable, Yeah, just unbelievable. Let
us not quick. You're going to pivot change something. We're
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not trying to make this about me, you know. Promotion. Yeah,
you're just you know, a little jealous of this head here,
I think, But hey, I have another one right here
if you're interested, it's right here. Already felt about much,
We've already got here tonight. Um, Kennon bowl through Like
I've never seen that big old You're like, oh my god,
(02:11):
what's that? So? Um? The Aaron Rodgers situation, there's a
report out um from you know, Mike Florio, who you know,
just always a trusted source of no agendas, no hard
feelings or anything. You got to guess. Mike shuts out,
what's up, Mike, Listen to the man. He's like, great, dude, Uh,
(02:31):
you know, just just a solid guy. What's through and through.
It's just you know, listen. That's a whole another conversation
for a whole another time. But point being um, there's
a report out that Aaron Rodgers is very upset that
his vaccination status was allowed to get out by the NFL,
(02:55):
that he's piste off so masterful. I just love the
way this dude, Like when you come across somebody who
can manipulate things the way that he does, it is
so enjoyable, wonderful. I mean, talk about a flipper. Like
you could sink deep into this. You could feel embarrassed,
you can There's a lot of different things you could
(03:16):
be trying to reel from in this scenario. You're cat
basically right and in a moment of truth where you're
caught and you're trying to figure out and do what
it is that you're trying to figure out and do
and execute, as Aaron Rodgers in this season, in a
moment like this. He flipped it, and I like, I
(03:39):
am and listen for all the people out there that
fall on both sides of this topic, right, it's like
pro con. He's appealing to the con people of of
you should have pro choice on if you want to
do this vacs and for the people who are for it,
and they're like, you need to be vaccinated, they're sitting
(04:00):
there and they're looking at it, like, yeah, he does
have a point. I mean, we did invade his privacy,
so he puts something out there for both sides to
be able to say. I don't agree with him not
getting the vaccination. He got what he deserved. But man,
he he's kind of right, like he's kind of making
you think, right, yeah, maybe that brings us somewhere in
(04:21):
the middle where we can start to be reasonable with
one another about these sorts of things because people look
at it. And now you're getting people that are sticking
at well, you know, Carson Watton saw. I mean, he's
not vaccinated, but at least he has respected he's wearing
a mask. It's like all the like. So now now
those guys are getting defended after they were getting trashed
on in the off season because they didn't want to
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get vaccinated, and it's like, well, it's not like Rogers
didn't try and do something. He did try and do something.
And Brady made the point yesterday. A lot of these guys,
this is their livelihood. Maybe not all of them, are
going to trust every single ingredient that goes into their body,
which is why they look how many guys go do
the blood spinning stuff over in Europe to try and
(05:02):
get better like all like, like guys go all over
the world. There's a lot of things that are not
allowed by the f DA here and and medically here
that are allowed elsewhere, whether that's Canada, whether that's Germany,
whether that's China. And I know players who've gone to
all three to get stuff done that they couldn't get
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done in the United States in order to come back
and play. And you can take up with whether or
not that's illegal, right just because we don't allow something,
but the reality is that's what they're doing to their
own body. That's their personal choice. You know, whether or
not our country has allowed something because there hasn't been
enough research or studies done to tell us whether or
not it's safe, doesn't matter. They're still taking that initiative
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to pay out of pocket to go do that. So
kind of a different scenario, but in this case, he
went his own route of trying to figure out a
way of immune and immunized. Hard. That's a hard word
to say, right if I just pick a car, any car?
Al Right. The NFL now is investigating all of this.
(06:05):
Are we going to see this report? I mean, are
we going to see this report from them? I mean
there's other reports out there that apparently we cannot see,
but this one. Something tells me, this one that is
going to be made open to the play. I think
that was in one of the six emails they scanned
through in d C. Now, his head coach, Um Matt Lafleura,
(06:25):
spoke with the media yesterday and you could tell Matt
la flour is probably getting a little bit annoyed with
the questioning here, did you talk to Aaron? He? Is
he doing all right? Yeah, he's doing well, and um,
you know we just wait the sucker out. Are you
sure feel that strongly that you guys did nothing wrong,
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didn't cut any breaks for Aaron in terms of the
protocol as far as the football space is concerned, I'm
confident I mean the interviews though, is that on a
football space? I mean it's you know, social distancing, you know,
I don't know to tell you again, why ask questions
(07:06):
with the expectation that coaches or players are going to
tell you the truth? Like that's like, oh, so can
you tell me why you did this? And do you
think that it was the right call to make? Like
expect the most misleading response that you can receive. Nobody's
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going to give you where where the rabbit hole is.
I'm not taking you to home base. I'm not taking
you there. Why even as the last I think the
one of the reasons why the media is so outraged
by it, and this was brought up multiple times, is
because for the the interviews conducted oftentimes indoors, he wasn't
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wearing a mask, which puts maybe those media members at risk.
And if if if, obviously if they were following protocols
every or else, he wasn't putting any anyone else at risk.
It was because they feel like they were the ones
that were at risk the most. But isn't he getting tested?
So what are we talking about? Well, if if, if
they assume and that's the thing that we don't know
(08:12):
is if they assume he's unvaccinated, they would be testing
him all the time. Probably at that point they if
they were following it, they would have been. Because I
heard the packers knew he wasn't vaccinated. I mean, how
did that they know he's he's not vaccinated. If anybody
knew he wasn't vaccinated, it's the packers, and they are
(08:35):
going to follow the proper protocols of him not being vaccinated.
That's you can't you can't skip over that. It's not
oh we didn't know, or oh we just acted like
we didn't see it, or he said he handled it himself.
They were going to follow the protocols with any player
that was not vaccinated. So the packers knew, and the
(08:56):
packers were taking the proper protocols. So, like you said,
if he is getting tested regularly, the problem, then you
don't have any beef. Like squash your beef, bro, because
if he's in the room with you and you're there,
he's already been tested a ton of times to see
if he's clean or not because he's not vaxed. And
and to that point, if he's saying he was saying again,
(09:20):
immun alright, I think I got it now amunite? Sorry,
So if he's saying that, then they may be under
the belief also. See to me, the first thing that
says to me is he had it. He's already had it, right,
That's what it says to me. How do you get
(09:41):
into Hawaii without being vaccinated? He's basically telling you, I
have natural antibodies for this this, And a lot of
the cons like the people who are not pro vaccinations,
are saying, listen, if I already have gotten this this,
you know this this virus and it hasn't killed me,
And what you're shooting into me, I'm already making naturally,
(10:04):
I'm already creating those antibodies, so I'm good. So to me,
they're testing him. The beef becomes control. This is about
control and who wants to control. Media has always been
at the forefront of controlling things. As it applies to
the mass messaging that comes from and resonates from everything
(10:28):
that we consume, they lose more and more control because
everybody is figuring out how to put their own messages
out through their own their own platforms and vehicles. And
this is one of those moments where they've been had
and they didn't like it, and you're still getting manipulated
right now because the Manden just flipped it on y'all,
(10:49):
like you're jumping into my privacy. This is something that
you should have. This should be off limits to me
as an athlete. This should be off limits to you guys.
The poking and prodding and priding into my private life.
I'm with you because if you want to start asking
these questions, then why are you asking about every little
other thing? Everything one's personal health and everything round and everything.
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It's like I said this before, we were outraged and
going crazy over to coronavirus. I can guarantee you there
are dudes walking around that have some serious s circulating
through their bodies. I can guarantee you like something that
in in in reality, you don't want to transmit that
(11:36):
to someone used to call that the jump off, right,
all right, So that's so let's be clear here and
nobody walking around with that. I'm clean car with every
one of those things you only get once, it never
goes away, kind of covers everything. You're going to jump past.
(11:58):
The lip bomb. Now here's the that's just stressed. I'm
just stressed out. Can I borrow your chip stuff that
only happens when I get stressed out. You know, it
gets too high. I understand, I get what you're even
even outside of that one, right, there's probably more, That's
what I'm telling there's probably more. So we didn't chose
(12:20):
to focus in on this one. But there's dudes walking around,
and not to mention, there's other employees we don't know.
They're help us. Always done with done this with Rogers though,
like they do it about his family and his personal
life that it's so weird that that part is the
weirdest thing when people bring up I mean, are you surprised?
Look at his relationship with his family. That's crazy. Why
(12:42):
is it anybody's business that? With urban Meyer too, they
do what people they don't why? And I think that's
what it is. They they like and and they find
Aaron Rodgers and they find something a while he doesn't
get along with his brother. I got news for you,
Hanker Horn right now, if you don't get along with
a sibling, everybody's been there. Yeah it's you don't. You
(13:03):
don't have to piss off of the neighbor. But but
the point being, like, it's this idea that we we
deserve to know everything about him. He's he's a private guy.
He knows how to play the game, and he beat him.
I'm sorry. He found a loophole in his communication and
it took him three and a half months to figure
it out. And he doesn't fall off. He doesn't fall off.
(13:26):
It's like, y'all throw all this his way and he
just flies above y'all. You try so hard to bring
him down. I like him more now. I sweart of God,
I'm a bigger fan of him now. He just do
you think he cares? Though? I do think it does,
And I think that's the only thing where you're right.
He got one over them. He won this, but to
(13:48):
a degree he cares. It impacted him. It's just it's
just like the naivety. Is that naivety? Is that what
we call? Yeah? How about that? You know a couple
of words Smiths here at four. So, but I just
how naive people in the media are that they think
(14:09):
that these guys are always telling us the truth. No,
they're not. I go into every single anytime I hear
an athlete or a coach say something, I just go, oh,
that's probably a lie. Like there's probably something that's not
true there because I don't deserve to know everything. It's
it's I don't deserve to know every little aspect of
everybody's life. It's like it's not proper. No, it's like
(14:31):
the guy who the buddy you take to the strip
club who goes, hey, man, I think she's really into me.
It's like, what, like, do you smell the other guy's
brute cologne? All right? Like she's not into you. She's
trying to make money. These people are so naive they think,
well they've they're of course they're telling us the truth.
We deserve know. You don't deserve to know anything. You
deserve to know what they tell you. He told you
(14:51):
something he got beat for three months of those he
thought he was like that buddy was me. No, it
wasn't you. It's a different buddy. But he really really
he really thought like he was like, oh no, no,
she really likes me. Like they just they like made out.
I'm like, this is no, don't don't do this. Man
like this happens by night. Probably shout out to Jake
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uh in a little while, but we do need to
(16:17):
update you on a story that We've been talking about
the Odell Beckham situation in Cleveland. He was sent home
for a second day in a row yesterday by the
he told not to come to practice a second day
in a row yesterday in Cleveland. Uh. This following his
dad's All twenty two release tape on on Baker Mayfield
missing him, you know, And and Brady, I gotta tell
(16:38):
you that, you know a couple of you know, football guys,
you're just talking. You know. I didn't think his I
didn't think he had the proper depth on those slugo routes.
You know those banks, you know those bang ages. Yeah,
I do, but more like three and a half. But
point being point. So, so here's the story now, Um,
(17:14):
Mike Garifolo is reporting that if it's not today and Brady,
you alluded to this, um soon thereafter, But the Browns
are going to be parting ways with Odell Beckham and
they're they're restructuring his contract to switch a portion of
it over to a base salary to make it easier. Right,
so make it easier, which is I mean again, it's
it's they're they're hoping. I think this is the intent,
(17:37):
because he'll be subject to waivers, which when you're subject
to waivers, the packing order is worse team to the
best team gets a crack at you, and and he'll
get claimed, he'll get claimed. And the question becomes like,
if you're Jacksonville, you're you're putting in a claim. If
you're Detroit, you're putting a claim because your roster needs
his ability to talent. And that's where I think the
(17:59):
Brown went out on this because somewhere, you know what
with us go deeper into black hole. You don't want
to play with us, We're gonna send you to the ether.
You thought you think Cleveland was bad? How about Detroit? Alright?
How about how about how about Jacksonville? Right now? You
thought it was bad? Here? Okay, yeah, we'll let you go.
You don't want to come, you don't play with Baker,
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We'll send you elsewhere. Then, how how do you like
them apples? And you will not clear waivers, and they
will look at you and say, okay, well, how much
better is this team getting with o'dale's edition. And then
and then now you're under that scrutiny. But look, they
can make it look like because because here's the difference.
If if he did clear waivers. He's not getting paid
(18:41):
that same contract, right, that's the difference. So in the
way that they're looking at it, probably from the team's perspective,
is hey, look, we're gonna convert this into a base salary.
We'll keep a chunk of it here on our salary cap,
and we'll allow another team to claim you and they'll
have to pay for a smaller portion of that. Uh.
And that way, you still get paid what you want
(19:02):
to get paid. And you know it's not that bad
of a deal for you, even though again you thought
it was bad. Here try going to a team with
no chance of making the plan. And now here's the
other side of that. Though. If i'm O b J,
I'm aware of that, and we have to figure out
and and this is something that you you got to
(19:24):
take into consideration. This isn't new, right, This was going
on before the trade deadline, so all these conversations that
could have led to a healthy separation didn't happen. So
now you're beyond the point of where you could try
to make it a winning situation for everybody. They're going
to have to make concessions for oh b J that
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make more sense in favor of him than it does
for the Cleveland Browns to be able to get from
underneath that contract, or he doesn't have to do anything.
And that's the key to all of this. So while
it's true he probably wants to play, wants to be productive,
it wants to have an opportunity to be happy. But
if I'm staring out a situation where if I redo
my restructure my contract and I know I'm not hitting
(20:09):
into another large contract situation, am I doing myself a
disservice by restructuring Because the first thing I'm immediately going
to think is I'm riding this year out. Well, y'all
got y'all gotta cut me, you gotta you gotta release me.
So he has two years left on his deal after
this year. And what gets interesting about that is he's
about a fifteen million dollar capit for the next two years,
(20:30):
and you can make the case that he has not
played up to that number by any But so why
would I give that that power away. That's leverage. I'm
not giving that leverage away. And so you know, he'll
end up getting claimed depending on how much they absorb
right and put on their base salary there in Cleveland,
He'll end up getting claimed. The interesting thing is he's
got no dead cap after this year, so a team
(20:51):
could claim him, test it out for a few months,
and if they don't like it, they can release him
and they can move on and they will not face
any sort of penalty within his contract for the next
two years remaining on the deal. I'm not clear on this.
If they release him without a restructuring, then they're they're
on the hook for this year and then they get
(21:15):
from under it they take I think they would take
a hit for next year as well. They would because
of how the signing bonus they've given them their pro
rated out, so they would have to pay him beyond
next year, is exactly, and so that's why they're trying
to remove some of that to put it on their capital.
Just so everybody's clear out there, because that's a very
important piece to all of this is the restructuring is
(21:35):
is all right? Let me ask you this, because if
he doesn't restructure and they release him, the Browns are
are still paying him and he gets to go where
he wants to go, right, it's not a waiver situation.
He becomes a free agent that can go where he
wants to go. There isn't a waiver situation if he
restructures right based upon the way that they would release
(21:57):
him or the language of how the release takes place,
or does he have the clear waivers? Both ways, he
would have the clear waivers both ways. Both ways he
had the clear waivers. See, I'm not restructuring s I'm
not restructuring, not one thing, one thing, and my restructured.
(22:18):
I'm gonna play this out because why again, if I'm
going to have to clear waivers and I know I'm
not going to clear waivers and I'm gonna end up
going to another team where I'm I'm potentially going to
handle worse environments than what I'm in right now. Golf
is not I don't I'm not gonna make golf better
than than you know, than Baker. But I'm not gonna
(22:39):
say that. I don't know, Trevor Lawrence is a baby.
But they're not winning. Isn't that crazy? Like all three
number one picks though number one overall picks, all three
It because Detroit, Jacksonville just came from with Baker. I'm
not saying this much. Every one of those teams is
gonna be welcoming him like it's coming to America like
it's the King of Samunda. See, they're gonna be rolling
(23:02):
out the red carpet, throwing the flowers like thank god
you're here. Every quarterback to be like, thank god you're here.
I've been waiting for you. Now, we do have some
odds on Odell Beckham's next team. So let's see. Let's
see how you guys, how you guys do with this
little game show music here from our friends in the back.
All right, damn right this is hell yeah, alright, alright,
(23:28):
so here we go. Um, we've got some odds according
to odds checker Odell Beckham's next team, if released. All right,
anybody want to guess the favorite not named LaVar? Who
just looked at the screen. Anybody not named LaVar who
want to guest today? Look at it? None you. It's
(23:48):
just so like, would you please just make a pick? Here,
just make a pick. I'm saying Detroit. Okay, Detroit's gonna
be up there. Um they winless team right now. They
absolutely are not not even close, not even close. They're
not even listed as well. Well. Part of it so
would be the cap space, not knowing what number they
(24:10):
need to absorb. That's kind of the unknown right now. Um,
the Las Vegas Raiders number one at plus three fifty.
If the Ravens get Odell Beckham, you can forget about it.
The Ravens are second, the Saints or third. If the
Bills get him, you can forget about what. I don't understand.
These are all teams who would come after exactly. This
(24:31):
is the scan, this is what they do. They're not
They're not going to give you the option of a
team that makes more sense, So they're going to give
you all these teams when all these teams are way
down the list, right. I do wonder if, because of
how Odell has handled this situation in Cleveland, that his
representation is sending to the teams, don't claim him because
he ain't comeing like you can claim him. But he's
(24:53):
gonna sit out the rest of the year. Why not
Antonio Brown did that to the Bills, right, he probably regrets, well,
not now, but I think you know now upon for
the review he probably the only difference was is he
was gonna his feet were get frozen either way, because
remember he went to Good he went to the writers
after that. That's as cold as it gets in Buffalo
this time either way. And also it was just bad
(25:16):
timing because it would have made more sense with his
foot issues if Rex Ryan was still the coach. So
I think I think it was just bad. That was
just I'm just saying he would have sleft that did speak.
One guy's one guy's banaka is another guy's ten acting.
You know what I mean. You are foul. You are
(25:41):
a foul human being. Yeah, that is so bad. Oh
my god. Okay, it is two pros and a cup
of joe here on Fox Sports Radio. How does that apply?
How does that even apply? And Brady, you th Arrol
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You got problems I got we all got problems right now,
and so I got problems. I have one the best
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to throw it up in the air and they catch
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it and you look at it was I mean that
was man. It is highly distracting. Definitely is it? Definitely
is what is going on here. By the way, we
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pulled pulled the blinds down. Please this so's like the
(27:09):
Howard Sterns, thank you put your shirt on? All right? So, um,
if you were waiting around for the college football expansion,
Brady quinn, uh, and we're gonna go ahead and get
ourselves some eight or twelve teams. It feels like we're
gonna be a little while correct. Two thousand twenty four
(27:33):
is the earliest. That's the earliest based on this this
current contract which those that agreement would have to come
together here in the next three or four months by
really all what is eleven conferences, so not just the
power of five, you have the group of five conferences
as well that would that would have to all come
to this agreement on how this expansion is gonna work,
(27:55):
is gonna be eight teams? Is gonna be twelve teams? Um,
they'd have to figure that out in a three four
months span. Now. I'm never counting anything out because we
did adjust during a you know season with COPD and
we figured that out right conference only play and how
to make it all work. But it seems really unlikely
at this point, only because you've got a number of
(28:17):
conferences who have varying concerns. You know, if you're the SEC,
do they want to open? Well? Really, first off, it
starts with it. It starts with ESPN. ESPN doesn't want
this to go to twelve teams because if it does,
that then automatically opens it up for other networks to
come in and bid for those games. And what's that
(28:39):
What that's gonna do is make what they already have
even that much more expensive. Now, if they went to
eight teams, all right, it's within the current language of
the contract for the College Football Playoff that they would
still maintain the rights to it. Because the only thing
that changes is instead of calling the New Year's six games, right,
(29:00):
your semifinal games, national championship and then you got your
New year six around that it all rotates for the
semifinal games instead of calling it that, it would now
be the quarterfinals, semifinals, and the national Championship, which is
always bid off to whatever city hosted. So those six
New Year six games would be wrapped up into your
eight teams playing off to play for a national championship.
(29:22):
If you guys can understand that ESPN still controls that now,
it does trigger a mechanism where the payout does increase
to like I think, like half of um a half
a billion dollars if they were to go to eight.
The problem is if you open this puppy up to
an open market and you let Fox, you let CBS,
(29:42):
you let I don't know, maybe NBC, who knows who
else could be a player in it, maybe even streaming rights,
that's gonna quickly climbed to a billion dollars because of
the way college football viewership has been, how it's growing,
and in particular those games that they know are gonna
rate because you're more often than gonna get the biggest brands,
big matchups, that's what people are looking for, especially on
(30:04):
the holidays when they rate. So you know, ESPN doesn't
want that to happen. They'd like to expand eight, but
not to twelve and then open up let someone else
have a piece of their pie. So they don't want
it to happen. The SEC doesn't want to say SEC
doesn't want it to happen because because they don't want
to have more teams have the opportunity to get in
at eight teams, they're going to dominate them. Look every year,
every year, there we got one in two right now.
(30:26):
I mean you, so you start looking at things like that,
it's gonna be really hard to find an agreement across
all parties involved. And and that's it seems to be
the only thing expansion is that satisfies a lot of
the gripes that people have with the current college football
ranking system. And I think they they tabled talks. I
saw they tabled talks until December one to where they're
(30:48):
just like, all right, we're not gonna have any more conversation,
and who knows that could be we're just getting through
the Thanksgiving holiday and then we figured out from there.
But it's like, it's so the point being if you're
bitching about Cincinnati siting at six and and and it's
still being four teams, it's a waste of time because
nothing's getting changed in the next couple of years. And
(31:08):
this is this is like a moment in time where
it could impact the future of college football because if
if a Cincinnati were to get in and a Cincinnati
were to say, just say they made it in, they
don't even have to win it. If they made it
through to play in the National championship game, it changes everything.
(31:30):
And they're the biggest as far as nonpower team, Like
they're the biggest threat because I'm trying to think about
the other teams. Are you CEF. I don't think anybody
thought you c F, if given an opportunity, could have
made it, could really have gotten a legitimate shot at
winning a title. Cincinnati feels like the best of the
bunch as far as non top four teams that they
(31:53):
would have expanded. Now just Malison said as much. Right,
who obviously came from Auburn, who played you know, played
week in a week out in the SEC, has faced Alabama.
Uh now at UCF, he said, Look, he's like that
team is as talented as any I think they could compete.
So he said as much recently, I think you could
go one of two ways. There's so many antiquated ways
(32:18):
that the system is set up now, meaning not all
conferences play the same amount of conference games. Um, not
all teams, you know, not all conferences play non conference
opponents that are actually worthy of something. And I'm not
saying an FCS opponent isn't worthy of getting that game.
They're gonna pay out from it, but it's essentially looked
as a layup, and and you don't if you don't
find that another conferences. So I think the first thing
(32:40):
would be you try to make the four teams that
are going and playing it have a more level field
of comparison before we kind of jump into wanting to expand.
But ultimately, like if you want to have a brand
like Cincinnati or whatever other small school you want to
talk about, group of five, you gotta expand, right. That's
(33:00):
what makes March Madness fun to watch is those Cinderellas.
I think the only thing that like this committee doesn't
want to happen is they know that if a Cinderella
gets to the semifinal, it ain't gonna rate. It's not
gonna be problem, you know, like George Mason, one of
the final four, it's one of the lowest rated final
fours in history. But but the best thing you can
(33:23):
do is find the storyline to make ratings do what
like we we always say one not took this from
old here, but let's make it dance. You gotta make
a dance. And I'll tell you the one way you
can make this one dance. Think about this. We're talking
about how dominant Georgia is this year and how they're
a lock to probably play in that championship game one
(33:45):
the Peach Bowl. Last year they only beat Cincinnati by three.
Both of them are trending in the same direction, but
one is being talked about and the most glare, glowing
and flattering way, while the other is being looked at
as a Cinderella team that may not even have the
opportunity to compete. But yet both of them played against
one another in a super competitive game last year, so
(34:08):
I know a lot of the starters stars didn't play
for Georgia that game though, had a lot of guests.
Then there's that, right, Then there's which is there's only
gonna be more of that, by the way, if you
don't expand, and it's the Peach But yeah, and then
it's the it's the Peach Bowl. So some teams, if
they're not playing in the playoff, they ain't playing hard regardless.
So I mean there's that. But with that being said,
(34:28):
there is a a history between these two teams that
is very recent that they could possibly make it dance
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lead the lap, let's do this. What do we got?
Are gonna win? All right? You guys? Like every week
we look at the game that has the highest point total,
(37:29):
So we're gonna be looking at the Titans at the
Rams this week at fifty two and a half under.
No Derrick Henry. I don't know how that's gonna look.
Why don't you just von Miller on the Rams waste
some time? Like the reason you picked the unders because
I picked the under has nothing to do with Derrick
Henry or Von Miller or Adrian Peterson. It's gonna be
(37:52):
good enough defense in this game about both teams. Fifty
two is a lot of points. What else this game?
All right, Browns are without Odell Beckham and not that
it matters, but Baker may feel passing yards in this
game three and a half? First, this is statement, who
are they against? Since Natty? Yeah, I'm gonna take the
under on that. Okay, when when's the lassion? This game
(38:15):
was good Bengals, Browns over and Bernie problem just somewhere. Yeah, yeah,
it's been a while. I love me some Bernie cos are.
I'm taking on this one, all right, what el you guys,
Jordan's Love is getting the start versus the Chief's number
of passing touchdowns for him one and a half. I'm
taking the under. I'll take the over. Um, garbage. This
(38:40):
is tough because garbage. It's been bad. Yeah, it's been bad.
They have and I think the Packers is gonna try
to run the football. They will, like, do you do
you think Matt Lafleur trust Jordan Love throw the football
down around the goal line? I don't know if do
you think he trusts Jordan's Love? Tanyans out? You don't
even have to give. You don't even have to give
an We're going to run, all right, you guys. Lamar
(39:05):
Jackson and the Ravens are hosting the Vikings. Total rushing
and passing yards for Lamar seventeen and a half over
he's back off of by let's go over. Plus he's
on my fantasy team. I don't know if you guys
knew that or not. And I don't even know you
played fantasy. Yeah, well, listen, you know some people are
into the cool stuff. You know, I know what to
tell you. Three seventeen and a half. How about that,
(39:29):
I'm saying the over. He's rested. I'm not convinced the
defense is still suspect. I'm taking the under. All right,
last one, let's go Lee. All right, you guys. A
little NBA action here. The Lakers are hosting the Nets tomorrow.
Point total in that game two d thirty six and
a half. Jesus made no lebron point totals are up
to almost tot NBA games. My god, what happened to
(39:51):
that league? There's no defense this time of the year.
I'll take the under. I think they're gonna be fatigued.
I don't know why I get Yeah, take the under
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