November 29, 2021 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar recap the Bucs beating the Colts after they abandoned Jonathan Taylor and the run. The try to solve the mystery of missing Nerf footballs from the studio. It's a wrap for Pittsburgh and Big Ben in the AFC North. Plus, a look ahead to Seattle vs Washington with the Prop Bet Monster.
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So they were very close. We felt like we were
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for at least a little while, and unfortunately somebody had
to step in and steal the show. We'll get into
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Sports Radio. Uh. The game of the day was the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. That was a
fun one. Um. Indianapolis was in control. And unfortunately, uh
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you know, I mean little bar I mean, those are
your Indianapolis Colts. You've been bloviating about indian Uh And
and just then Carson Wantz decided he was just gonna,
you know, turn the ball over a bunch of times.
You know, he wasn't turning the ball over. He was
actually gifting people. And you know what, if you're going
to gift people, you should give them the right way.
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You know what. It is the holiday season, very good
Hoday season. So would it be in that right, Let's
make sure that we gift them right. You know what
I do. I give them Omahall steaks, you know. Yeah,
so I mean, yeah, that is a good point that
you would do that. And yeah, now you would do that,
you know, coming up in about ten minuture about ten minutes,
that's that's that's when you would want to get this.
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I thought you wanted at the top of the show.
That's why this is a dope showy they said right here,
we would have communicated better. All right now, I'm trying
to I guess it is. But I will say this
about the Colts, and in that game, they in my estimation,
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we're bailed out by the twelve man, I mean one
of the number twelve. Yeah, number twelve. We could call
them twelve number twelve, you know, white hat. No. No,
I mean Tom Brady does his thing and he shouldn't
have to have any more help than what he gets.
But some of these calls, like on and there, they
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always seem to happen on third downs in critical moments
of a game, and it's like can they play? You know,
can they can they do what they need to do
as defenders to try to win games? You know, I
don't know. It just it bothers me when you have
such a really good game like that was a tremendous
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game like that was. That was a Super Bowl caliber
game right there. If you asked me and to to
have it kind of altered um by and my my
estimation several at least two questionable calls. You know, I
just I just didn't like it, but you know, give
them a lot of credit. The defenses played the way
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that they were supposed to play. Seemingly the offenses were
able to overcome you know, some some really tremendous played
by the defenses. It ended up being a higher scoring
game than I thought it would be. Uh. And and
you know, give give give Tom Brady credit. They gave
him too much time. And you all, you, we all
knew the moment that he had that much time. We
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all knew that he was gonna do something. So as
you come to expect what he does, that's what he does.
About Vita Vea though losing it to Yeah, it was
happy about it. That was one of the funnier things
that I think happened. Why the hell is he not
wearing a mouth guard? I mean people, some people don't
wear them. I didn't wear a mouth guard. I don't
get it, man, I didn't wear one. I mean, you're
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you're playing defense people knocking the snot out of people
thought to wear a mouth guard. Well, it's not about
thinking to wear the mouth guard. It just you didn't
have to wear a mouth guard. So at times I
didn't wear one. You breathe easier. You actually can breathe
easier without And I don't I don't suggest you go
without wearing a mouth guard, but I just you know,
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I was a technician to tech. What is the tech technician? Yeah? Maybe, yeah, okay.
And you can communicate easier without a mouth you definitely can.
That's the other thing. And you can smile at your
your opponent while you're standing over top of them, and
they can look at you and only see your you know,
I used to wear that black visory they could only
see me smiling at them. Why didn't that? Let me
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ask you this, why didn't Indianapolis run Jonathan Taylor more? Like?
Like what happened there? Like? Well, what was the the
decision to just go away from him for as long
as they did until the fourth quarter? Well, I would
say this, I mean I think they were making some
chunks getting some place through the air. I mean, you
also want to go with what works. It's not like
coming into the game you looked at the Bucks, You're like, yeah,
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we're just gonna pounder head against the wall, run the
football every single down. The Bucks have been one of
the better rush defense in the NFL, especially with Dave Back.
So I just think schematically, you go into a matchup,
you're not so much thinking about we need to get
Jonathan Taylor X amount of carries um. But coming out
of half, yeah, they probably should have been more cognizant
of let's shorten the game either way at the clock
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instead of putting the ball more and Carson Wentz his hands.
But I think that's what they want to do to
see if he's the guy, right, I mean, don't you
feel like at some point this year they're gonna really
make the ultimate determination on whether or not Wentz is
the future there or if they have to go back
to the draft or back to Frege to look for
a quarterback. Yeah, I mean I I would think that
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would probably be the plan there. And now he's he's
gonna be there two years, right. I think that the
way the contract is, it doesn't matter the way the
contract is, Like, that's the reality of it. If the
Colts find themselves in a spot where they have a
quarterback that comes to them, oh they're gonna take that.
They gotta take that. Like, That's what I'm saying is
forget the contract, because you can get out from any
of these contracts. You can look within the structure of it.
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It doesn't matter the length of it. They'll figure out
a way of getting out of it. We see teams
now more and more apt to take a quarterback or
a player off of off your roster in an exchange
for draft picks, and all you're really doing is they're
absorbing the salary cap, you know, impact, and then you're
buying those draft picks. That's essentially what it is, so
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they can move on from if they wanted to. Carson
went So actually was asked by the media afterwards about
the netuber of past plays in a row without running
the football. Here was was his response. Feel like you guys,
straight past plays checked out. So I didn't know that. Um,
I'm sure the two minute drive was probably a big
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part of that. Um, you know a lot of different
RPOs or they're blitzing on a run play forces me
to throw in those sorts of things. But I guess
I didn't realize it was it was that heavy. So yeah,
straight pass plays there for Indiannapolis, and uh, I don't know.
That just doesn't necessarily fall on Jonathan Taylor. It doesn't really.
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I'll say this, when when there's two there's two things
that took place in this game. That were the difference
in the game. Outside of Tom Brady. Of course, Leonard
for Net had an amazing game. He was good like
he was efficient for them and in a way that
you know, that's that's that's remnants of what he was
when he was in Jacksonville. We've not seen that Leonard
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for Net in Tampa Bay until yesterday. The second is turnovers.
I mean, you had three fumbles lost, you had two
interceptions thrown. That's five turnovers to one fumble and one
interception thrown by Tampa Bay. So it's five to two.
Anybody who understands football and understands how all of this works,
you know you gotta win certain aspects of the game
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and the turnover battle to takeaways giveaways that that's one
of the biggest, biggest factor is one of the biggest
columns that you got the boxes you have to check
off if you're gonna try to win a game. So
I mean, to turn the ball over that much to
not be as efficient as you needed to be on
third downs, they were only five of eleven on third downs,
which is that's you know, you just can't win games
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when you can't convert on pivotal downs like third down.
I mean, it has turned out it has always been
the most important down in football outside of first maybe,
But if you can't convert third downs and you can't
get a little higher conversions on on those things, it
just makes it super difficult for a team to be
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able to withstand what another team, especially if it's a
quality team. By the way, I thought Isaiah Rodgers was
gone when he returned that kick, and that would have
been the game. Now it's Isaiah Rodgers, isn't it. I
thought it was Chester Rodger. I don't want Rogers who
cared Aaron? Isaiah who cares name? Well, I mean, I'm
pretty sure it's Isaiah, But the point being, I thought
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he was gone. So that was that, you know that
was an opportunity of Chester Rodgers. Uh yeah, I don't know. Listen,
I'm pretty sure it was Isaiah, but uh, definitely not
repeat well, I thought that at Chester Rodgers. To the
reality is, um, you can't lose the turnover margin and
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expect to be Tom Brady, Like, I know he's not
with New England anymore, but he still plays that style.
Like if you look at how he plays quarterback, he
does doesn't take risks at certain points in time the game,
Like if you study all his throws, when he pushes
the ball downfield, it's a point time the game where
they have an advantage, they have momentum. There is a
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reason for it. He doesn't just take unnecessary risk or chances.
So if if you're gonna if you're gonna take an
unnecessary risk or chance, and you saw obviously a couple
of times with where the wind storing it up, you
know you're just you're not gonna win that battle. Like
I would love to know his overall win loss record
when he's plus one plus two in the turnover marks,
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like I don't think. I don't think he Probably i'd
be I'd be shocked to find out if he doesn't
win or more of those games. Lea's just so good
in that scenario. Let's go live to are I know
the Rogers on the Indianapolis Cold too insider lead to
laugh for the latest league. Chester was drafted by the Colts,
but he's not with the Titans, and so it's Isaiah
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and he's the quarterback there, right. Yeah, I think I
think we think we you know, cleared that up. I
think that was well, I mean you were ready to
settle in on I don't care. Who cares? Yeah, I
mean you mean the kid almost won the game for
the Colts ahead, who cares? Chester? We have Lee here
to set it straight, because I don't think Jonas had
a Chester Rogers. He's such a I mean the countless
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things last week you messed up on before for our
prop as monster. I mean I think you had mark
Ingram is healthy and one of those things, and now
he was questionable. It was still hadn't been determined, so
it was determined, it wasn't it was questionable. I texted
you and I was like, hey, he's already been You
texted me later on, but at the time that I
put it together, he was questionable. To be funny about
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the way, Yeah, I'd be sitting there reading you stuff
like y'all speak a different language. Man, I'm trying to
figure out y'all's language. I just don't say anything when
I don't. Can you tell we worked way too long
now included me in on it, and I'll just be
sitting there looking at it like what literally fighting fighting
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and insults. By the way, speaking of your legs, do
you think that's karma, Like, do you believe in that?
Like we were giving Kevin Durant a hard time about
it that it happened to you. Well, I don't know
that Kevin Durant burnt his legs out glory, but you know,
you know, maybe it was karma. I don't know. Yeah,
some people believe in karma. I just believe in just
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being a good person. Yeah, you know I was a
good person that got burnt. You know, literally he jumped
in the pool. Jumped in the pool. Yeah, it happens, man, Yeah,
I mean not me. I we don't have a pool
in my neighbor. Woke me up last night, woke me
up early, and I was like, man, my legs are itching,
and I heard you doing your collins were um, you
know your bit, And I was like, man, what is
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going on with me? Man? Like real funkadelic type of deal.
And I wasn't on the funkadelic type of deal either,
but it was still funkadelic type of deal. You know,
I don't know what I mean out there? Man, it
is it is two pros and a cup of Joe here. Brady, Brady,
Brady really needed to stay warning, got real cold socks
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I honestly thought you were wearing no socks, and because
I like multiple people asked me that, I was like, yeah, no, dude,
like I'm not that much of a weirdos, So now
wear socks in in you know, below thirty degree weapon.
By the way, I got a text from Eric Roberts,
our former executive producer on The Sunday Show, and he
just said, by the way, how about Brady going no
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handwarmers and putting his hands on the desk to show everybody?
And I was like, yeah, that's probably what he was doing.
That's probably the exactly what he was I'll be honest
with you. I had gloves on a little bit the
day before that. I can't remember where they even went,
so I didn't even have I didn't have gloves, like,
but maybe I would have. Was the only one I
had everything on. I think everybody else was kind of
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like pushing something like he can withstand all the stuff.
He was spritting up out of there every chance we
got to try to go back to where it was warm.
It is cold. That joke was funny. I was laughing
at job so hard man, like they are cold man.
And I'll put it this way, I I don't mean
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to say something corny. It really was one of the
most scenic things I've ever been a part of, Like
seeing the snow come down, the maze and the blue,
the scarlet and gray, the hype, the stands, everyone up
there in ann Arbor with a little the yellow, the maze,
like little pop pop things they do up there, like
hundred thousand people. Man, it is one of the coolest
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things to witness, and just to be there for the
field rush in the field after the fact, like everything,
it was one of the I'll never forget it. I
will never forget it historical it is. I mean, this
could be a game change because think about this. If
Michigan wins the Big Tent Championship this week there in
the playoff, there's no questions about it. They're they're they're
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gonna be like this week, they'll probably be somewhere I
would think in the top four, like four or three.
Who knows how high they would jump them. But if
they beat I what dude, They're in it. And honestly,
if they can avoid Georgia, they're gonna be playing for
national championships three or two. It's playing for national championship
sad thing about the ten just a sad thing you
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want may be a buzz killer a big day, is
that I will will knock them off. Jeez, that's not
that's the sad thing. It's the sad thing about you
know what happens if I knocks them off? Yeah, yeah, slides,
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slide slid. Rather see a Notre Dame and my boy,
oh Q is t get in then to see Michigan
or Yeah. I've just said I hate both teams, but
I hate Michigan way more than I hate Ohio State.
I hate, I hate, like literally in that way hate Michigan.
Shout out to Ann Arbor everybody. Oh I would have
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shot out and Arbor with something different. Careful, all right.
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take a look ahead to a Monday night game between
Seattle and Washington later on. I thought that'll be fun.
Maybe at that point we could they find where the
rest of the NERF footballs went. That was real passive, aggressive, unbelievable, unbelievable.
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How many balls did you get? Five? How many are
actually get six? How many are like what? I thought that?
I thought that was early Christmas grab bag. You know
Christmas gift you have away gifts brought into the studio
just so we could have you know, just toss the
ball around, have some fun lightening, lighten things up here
and then these things. It's fun, man, you just you know,
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throwing the ball around. How to do find myself looking
at you right to throw down sometimes like this, this
is shocking and they're just gone abducted by some nerve
football thief. And then I got my headphones back. Yeah, Like,
what the hell is going on? Are venting right now?
What have you come on? Everybody knows that radio stations
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and sports locker rooms are the number one place for
things to get gone, Like everyone knows that I didn't
know that. I did not know that. Well, then be
happy that you were never victimized. The only thing I've
ever been told was that Rob Parker will never give
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you anything at a discount because sometimes he's got a
peril and different things at this true. Yeah, and he
will never sell it at a discount. It's always full price.
And depending on who you are, I've been told he
actually still at a premium. Yeah he uh, that is
we are approaching the Rob Parker who last year during
the holidays had a merchandise up in near the kitchen
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and said four FSR staff and price tags on all
of them. And I'm thinking about myself, Rob, like, you
know it's radio people work on the holidays. You know,
they're probably not in the market for a sixty under
arm or sweater that you patched on. Odd couple too.
I mean, what are we talking. I'm a little moist
right now. You know when I for start at radio,
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that was one of the first things I was told.
Do not take your stuff if you care about it.
Do not take it to food, the break room and
stuff like that. Okay, food, I can understand. Don't leave
your stuff laying around. That was one of the first
things I was told. Do not leave your stuff laying around.
It will get gone. Well, let's ask the shots out
the one oh six seven to fan. They let your
boy know right out the gate. Well, let's do it.
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Let's ask the the twenty year radio veteran Eddie Garcia. Eddie, Uh,
your thoughts on the the footballs that have been abducted?
I hear Fox Sports Radio the NERF footballs. Well, all
I can tell you is this, uh my NERF football
still right here. We got it right here and it's
going anywhere alright. So that's too. There's only four missing.
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I mean, that's unbelood. Can't you just be happy that
you made someone's kid happy and they didn't have to
pay for it. I don't care about their kid. I
care about us. It's about us. I'm just saying they
had the opportunity to to throw the ball around yesterday.
Well let's look at look at what your mom or
your dad did for you. I hope they're just amazing.
Early early Christmas. You have fun with that ball, Roberto
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could yeah, could you imagine? Could you imagine if they
actually wrapped it up and yeah, then put it under,
put it out at the Christmas they're out there, dog
eat it. I think Brady's got something to say. I
don't want anyone touching the balls after that. I don't
want anyone. Are perfect, Yeah they were until they got stolen.
Unbelievable man, all right, it is you should have put
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on there do not remove balls. Well I I did,
but you signed here do not touch balls. And by
the way, you're where's the Lavarrington autographed his where's that one?
Somebody put it on eBay? Probably your daughter like that football. Roberto.
Roberto is a Brady fan. He would have took it
if it was a Brady plan. If it was Brady
somebody around here, that's a little bar sad. But I
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don't I don't think it's on any of this show.
So it would have to be someone's going the weekend.
See yeah, I see, I would have taken it, but
I don't steal. That's my point. Well you bought them. Yeah,
so that's on against the you know, kind of the
rules disgusting. All right, Coming up fifteen minutes from now,
we are going to have another addition to the prop
beed Monster will take a closer look ahead to Monday
night football between Seattle and Washington. That's yours fifteen minutes
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from now. Um, are we about we about done on
the Uh? The Pittsburgh Steelers gonna go ahead and uh
just kinda wrap things up there, Brady Quinn. That's a
wrap for me, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And and
you know, watching Cincinnati, which is like this young budding
roster of talent um, they got be by normally how
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I think Pittsburgh would do it right, I mean physically
they got beat up front. Joe Mixon. It's like quietly
having one of the I would say better seasons or
at least one healthy. He's one of the better backs
that we don't talk about, um, but Teg Higgins is
mossing dudes left and right. We obviously know about Jamaar Chase.
I mean, but this Bengals team seems like it's ascending.
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Everything they've done around Joe Borrow, everything they've done to
build on this roster, it's all working out, and then
it's it's almost like Pittsburgh was just kind of stuck
doing the same same, you know, same old thing and
expecting different results. But even their defense is taken a
step back. But they need to start thinking about life
after Ben, and they need to start thinking about you know,
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who's calling plays because that that's the other thing that's
like very apparent is when they can't find like any
production in the beginning of a game, they have a
hard time adjusting. Like I don't see them making almost
any in game adjustments when things go wrong early. You know,
it pains me to think about this Steelers team not
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only isn't a competitor right now, but they're in danger
of having their first losing season under Mike Tomlin. Like,
I don't see this thing getting better for them. And listen,
if you can establish your running game, which is something
that was brought up last year even though they were
able to go undefeat for as long as they did,
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if you kind establish a legitimate potency within your running attack.
You are running the risk of of, well, what what's
going on with the Steelers right now? Which is Ben
is being forced to win the game with his arm
and I think we all know at this point in
his career he's not showing that ability to be able
to carry the load all all in how he throws
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the ball. So you know, this is one of those
those moments you would expect the defense to be better
than what they they were, and they have not. I mean,
obviously without having some some key players. Um, but then again,
t J. Watt played yesterday. I just it's just not
the same, you know, I just don't get the same
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feeling when I look at this Pittsburgh team Like when
I watched them, I'm usually excited to watch them. Now
I'm just like nervous for him. And and that's never
been a frame of mind as a fan of the team.
You don't watch him and you're like, man, I don't know,
you know, Cincinnati Like I don't know, But that's just
the feeling. You just don't get that feeling that they're
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this intimidating force there there they have like who right now?
I mean, I guess t J. Watt. You can say
t J. Watt, but in reality, when I look at
the history of this defense, you always had a dude
that was an established that's a bad dude, like t J.
Watt gets sacks, but t J. Watt, I don't look
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at t J. Watt and feel like, Okay, outside of
him being able to pass rush me really good, he
doesn't scare me like Jason Gilden scared you, Levon Kirkland
scared you, Greg Lloyd scared you, James Harrison scared the
hell out of you. They they had an identity on
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their defense where there was always someone that was a
catalyst of fear. And I mean, Cam Hayward is is
a guy, but I just don't it's usually has to
come from like a backer. And maybe that's just me
being a fanboy about it, but I just don't look
at this Steelers team and and say to myself, man,
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like their dogs on defense, they're they're they're strong up front,
and they can run the ball, and they got somebody
like uh heinz Ward that's out there, or you know,
like a Ernie Mills or a Yancey thingg Pen. You're
gonna have somebody out there and Tonio Brown, that's gonna
make the big play for you. I just don't see
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that in this this Steelers. Yeah, they don't look like
the Steelers that a lot of us grew up on.
Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback of this Steelers team, he spoke afterwards, said,
you know, you you get your butt kicked. It happens sometimes.
I'm not gonna say that it happens to every team
every year, but um, these things happen, and um, you
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know it's called ones that you can you know, I
know that we have to come in tomorrow and we're
gonna meet and talk about it. To me, there's not
a lot to talk about. We've got a butt kicked,
and it is what it is. Yeah, they're they're not
a good football team. And uh and to you to
your point, they're gonna you know, this could be the
first losing season under Mike Tomlin. I'd almost guarantee that
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they're gonna have a losing season just based on their
schedule down the stretch. They've got Baltimore twice, they're at Minnesota,
they're at Kansas City, they've got the Browns. I mean,
this is gonna get worse before it gets better with
the Pittsburgh Steelers, I would imagine, I mean it doesn't
sound like it. And I don't know how you guys
take those comments. But at this point in time to season, LaVar,
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you said this earlier, you've got to be playing better football.
I mean, your sense of urgency should be turned up.
I mean it's no different than like, you know, procrastinating
for that holiday shopping right now, Like if you don't
have to start getting those gifts together now with the
supply chain issues, all the shipping and stuff, that you
ain't getting them in time. So if they if they
don't start winning football games playing better football, now it's done.
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It's over with. Like they need to start thinking about
life after Ben and and that's this isn't like disparaging
towards him. It's just I mean, he's a Hall of
Famer all that stuff. But their offense isn't giving them
a chance to win football games right now. Yeah, it
it does not look good. And then you know, just
seeing where they're at in the division, when you look
at the future, it feels like Cincinnati has got something
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going and offensively they're loaded on that side of the ball.
The defense is actually playing well, I think their top
seven or eight and scoring defense in the NFL. So so
so Cincinnati feels like they got something going. Baltimore, you know,
although last night wasn't pretty, they feel like they got
something going. Of all the teams in the a f
C North, the one that you seem to be most
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concerned about moving forward to me is Pittsburgh, Like they
feel like they're on the verge of we could be seeing.
I don't know, Cleveland's got a better roster and Pittsburgh
right now, don't they a bit of roster? But it's
like it's not it's not operationally what it needs to
be right now, but they're both hanging on a cliff
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looking at each other like you dropped, Now you dropped.
Who's the worst starting quarterback in that division? Ben Roethlisberger.
Do you think he's worsen Baker right now today? Really? Uh?
I don't know. Man, Baker gets healthy, Baker is going
to be able to turn it around. What's your excuse
for Ben? And Ben? And Ben just got Kareem Hunt
(28:29):
back and and and so now you have him and
Chubb and you have darnest Baker Baker Baker, Yeah, I
have much of an impact last night. They should have
used them more. I don't know why they didn't use
them more. Maybe they were inching them back in. I
don't know, but he was having If I was them,
I'd take football back to the nineteen fifties and sixties
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and I would just rush triple triple offensive lineman, extra
tight ends, not even have a wide receiver. Let Kareem
Hunt and let Nick Chubb. Why not? I mean, it's
better than the alternative. It looks like, you know, it's
painful to watch them struggle through and not be able
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to do what they're trying to set out to do.
I mean, poor Jarvis Landry Man, like he's out there,
you know. I just I don't know. I just I
just look at the way the Browns are right now,
and I think if they, you know, they get this
bye week right now, they gotta come back and do
it again against the Ravens. We'll learn We'll know a
lot about them in two weeks, is what I'll say.
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But if I had to take a stab at it,
if put it to you like this, if I had
to choose a quarterback for my team today to finish
the season, it might be more about subtraction than it
is additions. I'm just not choosing Ben as my quarterback today.
Also a Jack Conklin left lots last night's game for Cleveland,
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so there's a thought that he towards patella. Um. Kevin
Stefanski said afterwards it was serious, which you know me
and season over him. He got bull rushed by Dafe
and crumbled like a bag of bricks. Man, your guy away.
I mean, he's explosive, bro. He exploded through that dude,
and he just wasn't ready. It just didn't look like
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he was sturdy or you know, had his legs up
under just said Jesus, come on, like I just that
was Roberto. That was amazing. But I will say but
I will say he was gone after after you bull
rushed him like that. We don't need the car. You know,
you made a joke about Kevin Durant skin. The next thing,
(30:34):
you next thing, you know, right, yeah, I guess somebody
going to run up on me. I guess the next thing.
You got that chlorine chlorine wash, So you know, I
wish somebody would run up on me. All right. It
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and the Washington football team. All right, so let's get
as started. Obviously, Russell Wilson dealing with whatever that eat
he finger he's got going on there. So who leads
this game in passing yards? Were going Wilson or Heineke
or other? I'm going Wilson, man Honink. He has been
good lately. Russ is gonna figure it out at some
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point though, you know, historically he's he's played well on
the East Coast too. He's he's been really good. You know,
there's like a whole like West coast, East Coast, they
don't play. Well, that went bye bye. Well, he's he's
been really good. Seattle has been really good. Um, I
don't I'm not bet against for us man. I'm gonna
save Ross because the other thing is as good as
Honey was. He's more apt to take off and run
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on a pass play and they ran the ball well
with Gibson last week. So I'm gonna go with Wilson,
all right. So next up, who is the leading rusher
in the game. We've got Antonio Gibson, We've got Alex Collins,
we've got d J. Dallas, and we've got J. D. Mckissic.
Who we gonna there? I'm going with Gibson. I oh god, man,
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I mean he I wish I would answer it first
because I want to be on a tie on both,
but I also think I think it's gotta make your pick. Grady.
This is a smart play because all you need to
do is tie, and I'm not going to do that.
I'm just saying like, that's all you need to do,
all right, So let's let's go ahead and see if
we can break a tie. Here. What color is DK
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Metcalf's hair tonight, purple green or blue? Dang? Because he's
been going purple. It's been purple. Yeah. Yeah, but it's
a primetime game. You know, he's gonna want to show
off a little bit. I'm trying to think what they'll be. Yeah,
I mean, does he do is there another what does
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it because? Red or some like holiday spirit one? Purple, purple,
green or blue? This is what we got? Okay, green?
Say what I say? Whatever? The LaVar LaVar was mounting
to that he was going to take great all right,
So this is this is a shrewd strategy. Here by
can I give you guys the reason why it's green?
Because he thinks he's the Joker. So you gotta take
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a look at how he rocks his like his face
painting all that. Is that a real thing or is
it a real thing? It looks like the Joker? I mean,
so Joker didn't look like that from what I remember, Well,
he ain't built like that. But but if you look
at their faces simular alright, So next up, let's talk
about the attendance at this game. Now, for reference, the
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Chiefs Washington game from a few weeks ago, there was
a little over fifty one thousand people in attendance and
total capacity there is like eighty two thousand. So here's
the over under on attendance for tonight's game, sixty thousand.
They're going to live though, I'm taking the under easily,
but they're gonna lie about it, okay. So so you
think it'll be uh, you think they're so a primetime game,
(36:58):
it's still gonna be under sixty. First of how many
Seattle Shaws fans are gonna have that's a good point.
I didn't think about it. You're not going to have
a bunch of a way fans flying across have a
whole bunch of fans that who's showing up to the game.
That is that That is a very good and Friends
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Sports Radio. Uh. The game of the day was the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. That was a
fun one. Um. Indianapolis was in control. And unfortunately, uh
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you know, I mean little bar I mean, those are
your Indianapolis Colts. You've been bloviating about indian Uh And
and just then Carson Wantz decided he was just gonna,
you know, turn the ball over a bunch of times.
You know, he wasn't turning the ball over. He was
actually gifting people. And you know what, if you're going
to gift people, you should give them the right way.
(01:46):
You know what. It is the holiday season, very good
Hoday season. So would it be in that right, Let's
make sure that we gift them right. You know what
I do. I give them Omahall steaks, you know. Yeah,
so I mean, yeah, that is a good point that
you would do that. And yeah, now you would do that,
you know, coming up in about ten minuture about ten minutes,
that's that's that's when you would want to get this.
(02:08):
I thought you wanted at the top of the show.
That's why this is a dope showy they said right here,
we would have communicated better. All right now, I'm trying
to I guess it is. But I will say this
about the Colts, and in that game, they in my estimation,
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we're bailed out by the twelve man, I mean one
of the number twelve. Yeah, number twelve. We could call
them twelve number twelve, you know, white hat. No. No,
I mean Tom Brady does his thing and he shouldn't
have to have any more help than what he gets.
But some of these calls, like on and there, they
(02:54):
always seem to happen on third downs in critical moments
of a game, and it's like can they play? You know,
can they can they do what they need to do
as defenders to try to win games? You know, I
don't know. It just it bothers me when you have
such a really good game like that was a tremendous
(03:14):
game like that was. That was a Super Bowl caliber
game right there. If you asked me and to to
have it kind of altered um by and my my
estimation several at least two questionable calls. You know, I
just I just didn't like it, but you know, give
them a lot of credit. The defenses played the way
(03:35):
that they were supposed to play. Seemingly the offenses were
able to overcome you know, some some really tremendous played
by the defenses. It ended up being a higher scoring
game than I thought it would be. Uh. And and
you know, give give give Tom Brady credit. They gave
him too much time. And you all, you, we all
knew the moment that he had that much time. We
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all knew that he was gonna do something. So as
you come to expect what he does, that's what he does.
About Vita Vea though losing it to Yeah, it was
happy about it. That was one of the funnier things
that I think happened. Why the hell is he not
wearing a mouth guard? I mean people, some people don't
wear them. I didn't wear a mouth guard. I don't
get it, man, I didn't wear one. I mean, you're
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you're playing defense people knocking the snot out of people
thought to wear a mouth guard. Well, it's not about
thinking to wear the mouth guard. It just you didn't
have to wear a mouth guard. So at times I
didn't wear one. You breathe easier. You actually can breathe
easier without And I don't I don't suggest you go
without wearing a mouth guard, but I just you know,
(04:41):
I was a technician to tech. What is the tech technician? Yeah? Maybe, yeah, okay.
And you can communicate easier without a mouth you definitely can.
That's the other thing. And you can smile at your
your opponent while you're standing over top of them, and
they can look at you and only see your you know,
I used to wear that black visory they could only
see me smiling at them. Why didn't that? Let me
(05:03):
ask you this, why didn't Indianapolis run Jonathan Taylor more? Like?
Like what happened there? Like? Well, what was the the
decision to just go away from him for as long
as they did until the fourth quarter? Well, I would
say this, I mean I think they were making some
chunks getting some place through the air. I mean, you
also want to go with what works. It's not like
coming into the game you looked at the Bucks, You're like, yeah,
(05:25):
we're just gonna pounder head against the wall, run the
football every single down. The Bucks have been one of
the better rush defense in the NFL, especially with Dave Back.
So I just think schematically, you go into a matchup,
you're not so much thinking about we need to get
Jonathan Taylor X amount of carries um. But coming out
of half, yeah, they probably should have been more cognizant
of let's shorten the game either way at the clock
(05:49):
instead of putting the ball more and Carson Wentz his hands.
But I think that's what they want to do to
see if he's the guy, right, I mean, don't you
feel like at some point this year they're gonna really
make the ultimate determination on whether or not Wentz is
the future there or if they have to go back
to the draft or back to Frege to look for
a quarterback. Yeah, I mean I I would think that
(06:09):
would probably be the plan there. And now he's he's
gonna be there two years, right. I think that the
way the contract is, it doesn't matter the way the
contract is, Like, that's the reality of it. If the
Colts find themselves in a spot where they have a
quarterback that comes to them, oh they're gonna take that.
They gotta take that. Like, That's what I'm saying is
forget the contract, because you can get out from any
of these contracts. You can look within the structure of it.
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It doesn't matter the length of it. They'll figure out
a way of getting out of it. We see teams
now more and more apt to take a quarterback or
a player off of off your roster in an exchange
for draft picks, and all you're really doing is they're
absorbing the salary cap, you know, impact, and then you're
buying those draft picks. That's essentially what it is, so
(06:53):
they can move on from if they wanted to. Carson
went So actually was asked by the media afterwards about
the netuber of past plays in a row without running
the football. Here was was his response. Feel like you guys,
straight past plays checked out. So I didn't know that. Um,
I'm sure the two minute drive was probably a big
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part of that. Um, you know a lot of different
RPOs or they're blitzing on a run play forces me
to throw in those sorts of things. But I guess
I didn't realize it was it was that heavy. So yeah,
straight pass plays there for Indiannapolis, and uh, I don't know.
That just doesn't necessarily fall on Jonathan Taylor. It doesn't really.
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I'll say this, when when there's two there's two things
that took place in this game. That were the difference
in the game. Outside of Tom Brady. Of course, Leonard
for Net had an amazing game. He was good like
he was efficient for them and in a way that
you know, that's that's that's remnants of what he was
when he was in Jacksonville. We've not seen that Leonard
(08:00):
for Net in Tampa Bay until yesterday. The second is turnovers.
I mean, you had three fumbles lost, you had two
interceptions thrown. That's five turnovers to one fumble and one
interception thrown by Tampa Bay. So it's five to two.
Anybody who understands football and understands how all of this works,
you know you gotta win certain aspects of the game
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and the turnover battle to takeaways giveaways that that's one
of the biggest, biggest factor is one of the biggest
columns that you got the boxes you have to check
off if you're gonna try to win a game. So
I mean, to turn the ball over that much to
not be as efficient as you needed to be on
third downs, they were only five of eleven on third downs,
which is that's you know, you just can't win games
(08:46):
when you can't convert on pivotal downs like third down.
I mean, it has turned out it has always been
the most important down in football outside of first maybe,
But if you can't convert third downs and you can't
get a little higher conversions on on those things, it
just makes it super difficult for a team to be
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able to withstand what another team, especially if it's a
quality team. By the way, I thought Isaiah Rodgers was
gone when he returned that kick, and that would have
been the game. Now it's Isaiah Rodgers, isn't it. I
thought it was Chester Rodger. I don't want Rogers who
cared Aaron? Isaiah who cares name? Well, I mean, I'm
pretty sure it's Isaiah, But the point being, I thought
(09:27):
he was gone. So that was that, you know that
was an opportunity of Chester Rodgers. Uh yeah, I don't know. Listen,
I'm pretty sure it was Isaiah, but uh, definitely not
repeat well, I thought that at Chester Rodgers. To the
reality is, um, you can't lose the turnover margin and
(09:51):
expect to be Tom Brady, Like, I know he's not
with New England anymore, but he still plays that style.
Like if you look at how he plays quarterback, he
does doesn't take risks at certain points in time the game,
Like if you study all his throws, when he pushes
the ball downfield, it's a point time the game where
they have an advantage, they have momentum. There is a
(10:11):
reason for it. He doesn't just take unnecessary risk or chances.
So if if you're gonna if you're gonna take an
unnecessary risk or chance, and you saw obviously a couple
of times with where the wind storing it up, you
know you're just you're not gonna win that battle. Like
I would love to know his overall win loss record
when he's plus one plus two in the turnover marks,
(10:32):
like I don't think. I don't think he Probably i'd
be I'd be shocked to find out if he doesn't
win or more of those games. Lea's just so good
in that scenario. Let's go live to are I know
the Rogers on the Indianapolis Cold too insider lead to
laugh for the latest league. Chester was drafted by the Colts,
but he's not with the Titans, and so it's Isaiah
(10:53):
and he's the quarterback there, right. Yeah, I think I
think we think we you know, cleared that up. I
think that was well, I mean you were ready to
settle in on I don't care. Who cares? Yeah, I
mean you mean the kid almost won the game for
the Colts ahead, who cares? Chester? We have Lee here
to set it straight, because I don't think Jonas had
a Chester Rogers. He's such a I mean the countless
(11:15):
things last week you messed up on before for our
prop as monster. I mean I think you had mark
Ingram is healthy and one of those things, and now
he was questionable. It was still hadn't been determined, so
it was determined, it wasn't it was questionable. I texted
you and I was like, hey, he's already been You
texted me later on, but at the time that I
put it together, he was questionable. To be funny about
(11:36):
the way, Yeah, I'd be sitting there reading you stuff
like y'all speak a different language. Man, I'm trying to
figure out y'all's language. I just don't say anything when
I don't. Can you tell we worked way too long
now included me in on it, and I'll just be
sitting there looking at it like what literally fighting fighting
(11:56):
and insults. By the way, speaking of your legs, do
you think that's karma, Like, do you believe in that?
Like we were giving Kevin Durant a hard time about
it that it happened to you. Well, I don't know
that Kevin Durant burnt his legs out glory, but you know,
you know, maybe it was karma. I don't know. Yeah,
some people believe in karma. I just believe in just
(12:17):
being a good person. Yeah, you know I was a
good person that got burnt. You know, literally he jumped
in the pool. Jumped in the pool. Yeah, it happens, man, Yeah,
I mean not me. I we don't have a pool
in my neighbor. Woke me up last night, woke me
up early, and I was like, man, my legs are itching,
and I heard you doing your collins were um, you
know your bit, And I was like, man, what is
(12:39):
going on with me? Man? Like real funkadelic type of deal.
And I wasn't on the funkadelic type of deal either,
but it was still funkadelic type of deal. You know,
I don't know what I mean out there? Man, it
is it is two pros and a cup of Joe here. Brady, Brady,
Brady really needed to stay warning, got real cold socks
(13:01):
I honestly thought you were wearing no socks, and because
I like multiple people asked me that, I was like, yeah, no, dude,
like I'm not that much of a weirdos, So now
wear socks in in you know, below thirty degree weapon.
By the way, I got a text from Eric Roberts,
our former executive producer on The Sunday Show, and he
just said, by the way, how about Brady going no
(13:22):
handwarmers and putting his hands on the desk to show everybody?
And I was like, yeah, that's probably what he was doing.
That's probably the exactly what he was I'll be honest
with you. I had gloves on a little bit the
day before that. I can't remember where they even went,
so I didn't even have I didn't have gloves, like,
but maybe I would have. Was the only one I
had everything on. I think everybody else was kind of
(13:43):
like pushing something like he can withstand all the stuff.
He was spritting up out of there every chance we
got to try to go back to where it was warm.
It is cold. That joke was funny. I was laughing
at job so hard man, like they are cold man.
And I'll put it this way, I I don't mean
(14:04):
to say something corny. It really was one of the
most scenic things I've ever been a part of, Like
seeing the snow come down, the maze and the blue,
the scarlet and gray, the hype, the stands, everyone up
there in ann Arbor with a little the yellow, the maze,
like little pop pop things they do up there, like
hundred thousand people. Man, it is one of the coolest
(14:26):
things to witness, and just to be there for the
field rush in the field after the fact, like everything,
it was one of the I'll never forget it. I
will never forget it historical it is. I mean, this
could be a game change because think about this. If
Michigan wins the Big Tent Championship this week there in
the playoff, there's no questions about it. They're they're they're
(14:49):
gonna be like this week, they'll probably be somewhere I
would think in the top four, like four or three.
Who knows how high they would jump them. But if
they beat I what dude, They're in it. And honestly,
if they can avoid Georgia, they're gonna be playing for
national championships three or two. It's playing for national championship
sad thing about the ten just a sad thing you
(15:12):
want may be a buzz killer a big day, is
that I will will knock them off. Jeez, that's not
that's the sad thing. It's the sad thing about you
know what happens if I knocks them off? Yeah, yeah, slides,
(15:33):
slide slid. Rather see a Notre Dame and my boy,
oh Q is t get in then to see Michigan
or Yeah. I've just said I hate both teams, but
I hate Michigan way more than I hate Ohio State.
I hate, I hate, like literally in that way hate Michigan.
Shout out to Ann Arbor everybody. Oh I would have
(15:55):
shot out and Arbor with something different. Careful, all right.
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Seattle and Washington later on. I thought that'll be fun.
Maybe at that point we could they find where the
rest of the NERF footballs went. That was real passive, aggressive, unbelievable, unbelievable.
(17:08):
How many balls did you get? Five? How many are
actually get six? How many are like what? I thought that?
I thought that was early Christmas grab bag. You know
Christmas gift you have away gifts brought into the studio
just so we could have you know, just toss the
ball around, have some fun lightening, lighten things up here
and then these things. It's fun, man, you just you know,
(17:32):
throwing the ball around. How to do find myself looking
at you right to throw down sometimes like this, this
is shocking and they're just gone abducted by some nerve
football thief. And then I got my headphones back. Yeah, Like,
what the hell is going on? Are venting right now?
What have you come on? Everybody knows that radio stations
(17:54):
and sports locker rooms are the number one place for
things to get gone, Like everyone knows that I didn't
know that. I did not know that. Well, then be
happy that you were never victimized. The only thing I've
ever been told was that Rob Parker will never give
(18:15):
you anything at a discount because sometimes he's got a
peril and different things at this true. Yeah, and he
will never sell it at a discount. It's always full price.
And depending on who you are, I've been told he
actually still at a premium. Yeah he uh, that is
we are approaching the Rob Parker who last year during
the holidays had a merchandise up in near the kitchen
(18:39):
and said four FSR staff and price tags on all
of them. And I'm thinking about myself, Rob, like, you
know it's radio people work on the holidays. You know,
they're probably not in the market for a sixty under
arm or sweater that you patched on. Odd couple too.
I mean, what are we talking. I'm a little moist
right now. You know when I for start at radio,
(19:00):
that was one of the first things I was told.
Do not take your stuff if you care about it.
Do not take it to food, the break room and
stuff like that. Okay, food, I can understand. Don't leave
your stuff laying around. That was one of the first
things I was told. Do not leave your stuff laying around.
It will get gone. Well, let's ask the shots out
the one oh six seven to fan. They let your
boy know right out the gate. Well, let's do it.
(19:22):
Let's ask the the twenty year radio veteran Eddie Garcia. Eddie, Uh,
your thoughts on the the footballs that have been abducted?
I hear Fox Sports Radio the NERF footballs. Well, all
I can tell you is this, uh my NERF football
still right here. We got it right here and it's
going anywhere alright. So that's too. There's only four missing.
(19:42):
I mean, that's unbelood. Can't you just be happy that
you made someone's kid happy and they didn't have to
pay for it. I don't care about their kid. I
care about us. It's about us. I'm just saying they
had the opportunity to to throw the ball around yesterday.
Well let's look at look at what your mom or
your dad did for you. I hope they're just amazing.
Early early Christmas. You have fun with that ball, Roberto
(20:05):
could yeah, could you imagine? Could you imagine if they
actually wrapped it up and yeah, then put it under,
put it out at the Christmas they're out there, dog
eat it. I think Brady's got something to say. I
don't want anyone touching the balls after that. I don't
want anyone. Are perfect, Yeah they were until they got stolen.
Unbelievable man, all right, it is you should have put
(20:28):
on there do not remove balls. Well I I did,
but you signed here do not touch balls. And by
the way, you're where's the Lavarrington autographed his where's that one?
Somebody put it on eBay? Probably your daughter like that football. Roberto.
Roberto is a Brady fan. He would have took it
if it was a Brady plan. If it was Brady
somebody around here, that's a little bar sad. But I
(20:50):
don't I don't think it's on any of this show.
So it would have to be someone's going the weekend.
See yeah, I see, I would have taken it, but
I don't steal. That's my point. Well you bought them. Yeah,
so that's on against the you know, kind of the
rules disgusting. All right, Coming up fifteen minutes from now,
we are going to have another addition to the prop
beed Monster will take a closer look ahead to Monday
night football between Seattle and Washington. That's yours fifteen minutes
(21:14):
from now. Um, are we about we about done on
the Uh? The Pittsburgh Steelers gonna go ahead and uh
just kinda wrap things up there, Brady Quinn. That's a
wrap for me, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And and
you know, watching Cincinnati, which is like this young budding
roster of talent um, they got be by normally how
(21:36):
I think Pittsburgh would do it right, I mean physically
they got beat up front. Joe Mixon. It's like quietly
having one of the I would say better seasons or
at least one healthy. He's one of the better backs
that we don't talk about, um, but Teg Higgins is
mossing dudes left and right. We obviously know about Jamaar Chase.
I mean, but this Bengals team seems like it's ascending.
(21:57):
Everything they've done around Joe Borrow, everything they've done to
build on this roster, it's all working out, and then
it's it's almost like Pittsburgh was just kind of stuck
doing the same same, you know, same old thing and
expecting different results. But even their defense is taken a
step back. But they need to start thinking about life
after Ben, and they need to start thinking about you know,
(22:18):
who's calling plays because that that's the other thing that's
like very apparent is when they can't find like any
production in the beginning of a game, they have a
hard time adjusting. Like I don't see them making almost
any in game adjustments when things go wrong early. You know,
it pains me to think about this Steelers team not
(22:39):
only isn't a competitor right now, but they're in danger
of having their first losing season under Mike Tomlin. Like,
I don't see this thing getting better for them. And listen,
if you can establish your running game, which is something
that was brought up last year even though they were
able to go undefeat for as long as they did,
(23:01):
if you kind establish a legitimate potency within your running attack.
You are running the risk of of, well, what what's
going on with the Steelers right now? Which is Ben
is being forced to win the game with his arm
and I think we all know at this point in
his career he's not showing that ability to be able
to carry the load all all in how he throws
(23:24):
the ball. So you know, this is one of those
those moments you would expect the defense to be better
than what they they were, and they have not. I mean,
obviously without having some some key players. Um, but then again,
t J. Watt played yesterday. I just it's just not
the same, you know, I just don't get the same
(23:45):
feeling when I look at this Pittsburgh team Like when
I watched them, I'm usually excited to watch them. Now
I'm just like nervous for him. And and that's never
been a frame of mind as a fan of the team.
You don't watch him and you're like, man, I don't know,
you know, Cincinnati Like I don't know, But that's just
the feeling. You just don't get that feeling that they're
(24:08):
this intimidating force there there they have like who right now?
I mean, I guess t J. Watt. You can say
t J. Watt, but in reality, when I look at
the history of this defense, you always had a dude
that was an established that's a bad dude, like t J.
Watt gets sacks, but t J. Watt, I don't look
(24:30):
at t J. Watt and feel like, Okay, outside of
him being able to pass rush me really good, he
doesn't scare me like Jason Gilden scared you, Levon Kirkland
scared you, Greg Lloyd scared you, James Harrison scared the
hell out of you. They they had an identity on
(24:52):
their defense where there was always someone that was a
catalyst of fear. And I mean, Cam Hayward is is
a guy, but I just don't it's usually has to
come from like a backer. And maybe that's just me
being a fanboy about it, but I just don't look
at this Steelers team and and say to myself, man,
(25:15):
like their dogs on defense, they're they're they're strong up front,
and they can run the ball, and they got somebody
like uh heinz Ward that's out there, or you know,
like a Ernie Mills or a Yancey thingg Pen. You're
gonna have somebody out there and Tonio Brown, that's gonna
make the big play for you. I just don't see
(25:36):
that in this this Steelers. Yeah, they don't look like
the Steelers that a lot of us grew up on.
Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback of this Steelers team, he spoke afterwards, said,
you know, you you get your butt kicked. It happens sometimes.
I'm not gonna say that it happens to every team
every year, but um, these things happen, and um, you
(25:58):
know it's called ones that you can you know, I
know that we have to come in tomorrow and we're
gonna meet and talk about it. To me, there's not
a lot to talk about. We've got a butt kicked,
and it is what it is. Yeah, they're they're not
a good football team. And uh and to you to
your point, they're gonna you know, this could be the
first losing season under Mike Tomlin. I'd almost guarantee that
(26:20):
they're gonna have a losing season just based on their
schedule down the stretch. They've got Baltimore twice, they're at Minnesota,
they're at Kansas City, they've got the Browns. I mean,
this is gonna get worse before it gets better with
the Pittsburgh Steelers, I would imagine, I mean it doesn't
sound like it. And I don't know how you guys
take those comments. But at this point in time to season, LaVar,
(26:40):
you said this earlier, you've got to be playing better football.
I mean, your sense of urgency should be turned up.
I mean it's no different than like, you know, procrastinating
for that holiday shopping right now, Like if you don't
have to start getting those gifts together now with the
supply chain issues, all the shipping and stuff, that you
ain't getting them in time. So if they if they
don't start winning football games playing better football, now it's done.
(27:03):
It's over with. Like they need to start thinking about
life after Ben and and that's this isn't like disparaging
towards him. It's just I mean, he's a Hall of
Famer all that stuff. But their offense isn't giving them
a chance to win football games right now. Yeah, it
it does not look good. And then you know, just
seeing where they're at in the division, when you look
at the future, it feels like Cincinnati has got something
(27:27):
going and offensively they're loaded on that side of the ball.
The defense is actually playing well, I think their top
seven or eight and scoring defense in the NFL. So so
so Cincinnati feels like they got something going. Baltimore, you know,
although last night wasn't pretty, they feel like they got
something going. Of all the teams in the a f
C North, the one that you seem to be most
(27:48):
concerned about moving forward to me is Pittsburgh, Like they
feel like they're on the verge of we could be seeing.
I don't know, Cleveland's got a better roster and Pittsburgh
right now, don't they a bit of roster? But it's
like it's not it's not operationally what it needs to
be right now, but they're both hanging on a cliff
(28:09):
looking at each other like you dropped, Now you dropped.
Who's the worst starting quarterback in that division? Ben Roethlisberger.
Do you think he's worsen Baker right now today? Really? Uh?
I don't know. Man, Baker gets healthy, Baker is going
to be able to turn it around. What's your excuse
for Ben? And Ben? And Ben just got Kareem Hunt
(28:29):
back and and and so now you have him and
Chubb and you have darnest Baker Baker Baker, Yeah, I
have much of an impact last night. They should have
used them more. I don't know why they didn't use
them more. Maybe they were inching them back in. I
don't know, but he was having If I was them,
I'd take football back to the nineteen fifties and sixties
(28:50):
and I would just rush triple triple offensive lineman, extra
tight ends, not even have a wide receiver. Let Kareem
Hunt and let Nick Chubb. Why not? I mean, it's
better than the alternative. It looks like, you know, it's
painful to watch them struggle through and not be able
(29:11):
to do what they're trying to set out to do.
I mean, poor Jarvis Landry Man, like he's out there,
you know. I just I don't know. I just I
just look at the way the Browns are right now,
and I think if they, you know, they get this
bye week right now, they gotta come back and do
it again against the Ravens. We'll learn We'll know a
lot about them in two weeks, is what I'll say.
(29:32):
But if I had to take a stab at it,
if put it to you like this, if I had
to choose a quarterback for my team today to finish
the season, it might be more about subtraction than it
is additions. I'm just not choosing Ben as my quarterback today.
Also a Jack Conklin left lots last night's game for Cleveland,
(29:53):
so there's a thought that he towards patella. Um. Kevin
Stefanski said afterwards it was serious, which you know me
and season over him. He got bull rushed by Dafe
and crumbled like a bag of bricks. Man, your guy away.
I mean, he's explosive, bro. He exploded through that dude,
and he just wasn't ready. It just didn't look like
(30:13):
he was sturdy or you know, had his legs up
under just said Jesus, come on, like I just that
was Roberto. That was amazing. But I will say but
I will say he was gone after after you bull
rushed him like that. We don't need the car. You know,
you made a joke about Kevin Durant skin. The next thing,
(30:34):
you next thing, you know, right, yeah, I guess somebody
going to run up on me. I guess the next thing.
You got that chlorine chlorine wash, So you know, I
wish somebody would run up on me. All right. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe here. Fox
Sports Radio Coming up next, we are going to have
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hear this, uh Blue Christmas by Elvis doesn't this is
(32:00):
he pictured? Just some guy sitting by himself drinking at
a bar. I don't know what it is, Just for
whatever dure you there is folks, A good a good friend, right,
Brady Quinn, just a good guy, not crying, just almost
looking like Billy Bob. That's way too cool. He's got
to be crying. Yeah, he's a cool dude. Monster's great movie. Yeah,
(32:27):
I'm sure you think got a one track mind right there?
Class list. Alright, So coming up top the next hour,
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(32:49):
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(33:11):
All right. So it is time right now, that we
get to do a little something we do. We're gonna
do a little something we do every single week on
this Yeah, defeat your degenerate gambling soul, the problem bet monster. Alright,
(33:32):
so we do this for the prime time games, the
Thursdays and the Mondays. Now LaVar has a one game
lead on the season standings, but Brady Quinn did take
Thursday's action. So if he can get it done here,
or if you guys finish in a tie, Brady Quinn
will have tied up the season standings as we get
ready for us some Monday night football between the Seahawks
(33:53):
and the Washington football team. All right, so let's get
as started. Obviously, Russell Wilson dealing with whatever that eat
he finger he's got going on there. So who leads
this game in passing yards? Were going Wilson or Heineke
or other? I'm going Wilson, man Honink. He has been
good lately. Russ is gonna figure it out at some
(34:20):
point though, you know, historically he's he's played well on
the East Coast too. He's he's been really good. You know,
there's like a whole like West coast, East Coast, they
don't play. Well, that went bye bye. Well, he's he's
been really good. Seattle has been really good. Um, I
don't I'm not bet against for us man. I'm gonna
save Ross because the other thing is as good as
Honey was. He's more apt to take off and run
(34:42):
on a pass play and they ran the ball well
with Gibson last week. So I'm gonna go with Wilson,
all right. So next up, who is the leading rusher
in the game. We've got Antonio Gibson, We've got Alex Collins,
we've got d J. Dallas, and we've got J. D. Mckissic.
Who we gonna there? I'm going with Gibson. I oh god, man,
(35:07):
I mean he I wish I would answer it first
because I want to be on a tie on both,
but I also think I think it's gotta make your pick. Grady.
This is a smart play because all you need to
do is tie, and I'm not going to do that.
I'm just saying like, that's all you need to do,
all right, So let's let's go ahead and see if
we can break a tie. Here. What color is DK
(35:29):
Metcalf's hair tonight, purple green or blue? Dang? Because he's
been going purple. It's been purple. Yeah. Yeah, but it's
a primetime game. You know, he's gonna want to show
off a little bit. I'm trying to think what they'll be. Yeah,
I mean, does he do is there another what does
(35:51):
it because? Red or some like holiday spirit one? Purple, purple,
green or blue? This is what we got? Okay, green?
Say what I say? Whatever? The LaVar LaVar was mounting
to that he was going to take great all right,
So this is this is a shrewd strategy. Here by
can I give you guys the reason why it's green?
Because he thinks he's the Joker. So you gotta take
(36:14):
a look at how he rocks his like his face
painting all that. Is that a real thing or is
it a real thing? It looks like the Joker? I mean,
so Joker didn't look like that from what I remember, Well,
he ain't built like that. But but if you look
at their faces simular alright, So next up, let's talk
about the attendance at this game. Now, for reference, the
(36:35):
Chiefs Washington game from a few weeks ago, there was
a little over fifty one thousand people in attendance and
total capacity there is like eighty two thousand. So here's
the over under on attendance for tonight's game, sixty thousand.
They're going to live though, I'm taking the under easily,
but they're gonna lie about it, okay. So so you
think it'll be uh, you think they're so a primetime game,
(36:58):
it's still gonna be under sixty. First of how many
Seattle Shaws fans are gonna have that's a good point.
I didn't think about it. You're not going to have
a bunch of a way fans flying across have a
whole bunch of fans that who's showing up to the game.
That is that That is a very good and Friends
without COVID was over that is uh, that's a good point,
(37:21):
all right. Last one here distance this was this was
the author of some controversy the last time. But LaVar
Arrington number fifty six Jersey in the crowd. Does somebody
tweet the show with proof? Tweet the show with proof
(37:42):
of a LaVar Arrington number fifty six Jersey in the crowd?
Yes or no? And if it's no, that's the wild
card pick that'll get you an extra point here. If
you go with no, hell no, you're gonna go now.
It happened last time. If there happened like the stars
are loyal listeners are LaVar fans. They will be sending
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