December 6, 2021 • 38 mins
Sunday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington react to the Lions getting their first win of the season over the Minnesota Vikings, Ravens HC John Harbaugh deciding to go for the win (and failing), and LaVar contracting the Vegas flu on FSR IR.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
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Sports Radio. Early congratulations are in order, and we'll get
to all of that here up in just a couple
of moments from now. It's Two Pros and a Cup
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of Joe, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with the
here on fs ARE you can hang out with us
as always how much I love being right and if
you throw out his anger, you can throw out that
zinger man and we will take you all the way
up until Sam Pacific time nine time. Here, I mean congratulation.
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I didn't say Iowa. Now if you would have said
Io would have hit differently, because Pinn state, we know
we're sitting at home. We're going to the Outback Bowl.
We'll play a little bit of Arkansas, you know what
I mean, We get a little bit of Arkansas, some tomato,
apple apples. Arkansas. They still do that blooming onion. Uh?
Was it like the depending on the team that wins
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you if you go to an outback it was like
you got a blooming onion and there was like some
other like Cajun chicken strips or some of coconut sh Yeah,
something like that. I don't know. Played an Outback Bowl
one year. We played against Tom Couch. How was it?
You know, Brady knows who Tom Couches beloved Cleveland Brown. Well, no, no, no,
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I knew him back he was playing at Kentucky. Yeah, yeah,
he was like Kentucky. Yeah. It was really good man.
He was supposed to be the next guy. Then he
ran into Penn State and his his his last game
of his college career, and he figured out that if
this is what the league is going to be like,
probably should start saving my money up and making sure I'll,
you know, figure out what's next in my careers. You know,
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well here's what's next. Congratulations. We had our Detroit Lions
first win Fantasy draft last week. I had it. I
had it figured out and the LaVar Arrington had the
Minnesota Vikings being the team that would fall to the
Detroit Lions, and congratulations, you got it done yesterday. Thank you.
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I mean they tried, They certainly tried to lose it.
For on the text message, I was like, you know,
we were close, man, Like it seemed like everything was
going the way at Detroit and they were gonna just
breaze by. And then all of a sudden it was like,
what the hell is going on here? And it went
down to the final drive and Jared Goff gets it
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done man, and Dan Campbell gets his first win. Labart
the hardest one to get. The first one is the
hardest one to get. Now. I don't know how many
more they'll win, but once you get that first win again,
I lived it. We went oh in five. We didn't
go as far um as long in the season losing
as as Detroit did. But I'll tell you what, once
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we got that first win, it just sometimes it's the
Sometimes it's more compelling for that team that gets their
first win to play amazingly more amazingly after that, then
the other teams teams that should beat them, they just
don't play as well, because it's like it's like their
seasons just starting. They don't have the fatigue of being eight, nine,
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ten games into the year. Their getting their season just
started when they got that one win. And sometimes that's dangerous. Man.
You get a team that starts feeling that way this
late in the season as that you know, they could
be a trap game for a lot of guys. I
think it's bigger for them just to not be a
part of history, like the bad side, the wrong side
of it, right, Like we know there's been a Lions
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team that's been a part of that too. I mean
you joke about it with like a guy like Daniel
Lobski was a part of that. It the reality is
like that's that will always stay with you, you know.
And the Browns were a part of that. So I
think the biggest thing for Jared Goff and Dan Campbell,
that whole crew was just being able to kind of
get that off their back where they knew it was
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gonna be a rough season. I don't know any de
Troy Lyons fans that thought this was gonna be like
a playoff team. But now they get that off their
back and they can move forward, and I think The
other thing you've got to acknowledge is just the the
tragedy that took place last week, the emotions that were
tied to it, And you know, I know a lot
of times we hate kind of that intersection of sports
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and in real life when there's tragedies out there, but sometimes,
you know, teams and events like that can be kind
of a beacon of light and hope, and um, I
just it was awesome to be able to see the
way that they played, especially in the final moments where
that you kind of felt like there's a little something
extra helping them out to be able to get that win,
so that the whole way around, it was awesome to
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see just the emotions of Dan Campbell and Jared Goff
And after you threw the touchdown pass me, who did
you go? Hug Hunter? I was just gonna say, it
ran directly at Dan Campbell and you could sell whatever
they were saying to each other. That was a moment
that like, those two men will never forget and it
will go down and it will be missed by everyone
else the rest of their lives. But those two guys
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know the struggle they've been in this entire year. That's
the cool thing to me about all this, and and
and you could tell Jared Goff knew how big that
was for Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell afterwards gave the game
ball obviously, and all the victims read their names off
one by one there, you know, after the tragedy out there,
and it was yeah, it was awesome to see. Uh So,
so the Lions are a winner. LaVar Arrington is a winner.
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Just congratulations again their sticks and I'm just getting it done, man,
just done. Man. I won't I won't bloat or brag
about it, you guys, But the reality is this. Did
you pick first? I picked five? Yeah, so you fell
into it like you were like the new Elood Patriots
by drafting Tom Brady. But you passed up on the
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first five rounds like you didn't have a choice that.
I like what you did there, qu not Like, I'm
just painting out the reality. Like I had them picked out.
I had them picked out up in here, I had
my strategy together. It's all right, Yeah, I mean, I'm
sight as always, you know, you know it could be revisionist.
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I'm just painting out the reality of the situation was
there were four other people who selected before you all
of games of which you could have selected, and the
reality is we will never know because you were you
had one of two games to pick, and you took
one that Jonas. I don't. I don't know that Jonas
wanted that one. Maybe I don't think anybody wanted that.
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I didn't checked me. Listen, the one that I wanted
Brady stole. So this is so you're you're deserving to
win after the scam that Brady Quinn pulled on the air,
making a pick, then going back on the pick and
then makes another one. So he went back on the
pick four team. That well, whether they win or lose,
I want cheaters can't be rewarded on this show. Sorry.
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I won't go as far as the hitting with cheater,
but I don't think cheating is the way to play
this game. The first ever, however, I do like how
you've changed the attention on to Brady and got it
off for me. Thank you, thank you very much. The
first ever of the seven team game season. Yet you
know there are first in sports talk radio. That's how
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it's done. Now, how how bad on the How quiet
Berto is back there? Right? Bert? He's too busy attacking
people on Twitter. He also realized that his team lost
to you know, Washington. So he's real quiet back there.
No sound effects, yeah, no sound effects, no nothing from
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Berto was just back there. It is uh listen, shaved,
he's clean shaving. He's seeing me looking all like young.
He got the young butt face going on. Man, everything
is good. Yeah, Berto was, you know, he was fired up.
I mean, listen, there's a lot of reason to be
fired up yesterday, you know around the NFL. Um. I mean,
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell that
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was last night on Sunday Night football? Was that an
impressive performance by Kansas City? Or is Denver just not
have anything on offense? Trash last night? But give well,
I was gonna ask you, Lavark, we give a big
Fangio of some credit, Like I don't I don't know
how many times how many times have they played on
since he's been head coach? Was that there there, like
seventh time? Yeah? Yeah, the third year for Fangio? Right
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yeah yeah, so this fifth? Okay, Yeah, it's an odd
number one way or another. But the point is this,
I feel like they're always low scoring games. Like he
does as good of a job as anyone against them
as far as trying to kind of keep them down
or like limit the impact of Mahomes everyone else. And
now they've got the personnel. Like one thing you see
that it was pointed out a one point. You don't
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see many teams play as much man to man as
the Broncos can against the Kansas City Chiefs because they've
drafted and they've brought in guys to be able to
match up with them, Like that was the whole m O.
But I mean, they just can't get out of their
own way offensive. They're a quarterback away, man, they are
a quarterback away. You put Watson, you put Rogers, you
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put Russell Wilson on that roster. That team is a
playoff team that may intent for something even bigger than that.
So it's it's hard to watch. Man. I think they
let him down up front to like Teddy Bridgewater didn't
do himself any justice the way that he played. He's
just got such a nonchalant look, like if you want
to get mad at him when you want, like dude,
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can you care a little bit more? But I mean,
and listen, quarterbacks are wired differently. They gotta stay calm,
like I had Tony Banks was one of my teammates,
and he I used to go like, I would be
a dude that randomly grab your headphones and see what
you were listening to before you know, I grabbed Lineman headphones.
It would be like straight head banger music, you know,
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heavy metal stuff like that. You know you grabbed the quarterback.
I grabbed Tony Banks's headphones, and it'd be like or
day playing, Like like what the he are you listening to? Bro?
Like do you understand We're about to go play a
full contact football game? Like why are you slow jamming?
Like you you you want some wine? You want you
want some candle light bro before the game. But I mean, listen,
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I don't know. All I know is this. I wish
that that. I wish that that Teddy was just a
little bit more pumped up about what was going on
out there. But his offensive line, I thought that was
the biggest tale of the tape. In this game, the
offensive line did not do a good enough job of
holding up there into the bargain, not in the run game,
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not in the passing game. That that Kansas City Front
disrupted the entire game. They they impacted the game, and
that was the difference in the game as far as
offensively for Kansas City. When I look at Kansas City's offense,
I say to myself and you, I'm sure they did
a great job of holding them off of the board.
But most teams have held them off the board this
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year like they do in a different way. Fair enough,
fair enough, But this, this Kansas City team is figuring out.
And this is this is the biggest thing that kind
of goes to the point of view saying that they
could end up being that that Super Bowl contender again
or should be looked at. They are figuring it out
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in terms of winning the way they're winning. And it's
not with fifty sixty points. It's like with sixteen or eighteen.
You know that. But they're figuring it out. Did we
did we figure out what the status was of Teddy
B's shin there with the shin pad, get a little
shin guard for Teddy B? What was going on with that?
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We got? Did he take a cleat? Were they treating
a staff in faction? Was there to make a tackle
on his his touchdown an interception this game? I mean
it was a much better attempt. Yeah, I mean he
learned he could he could have done with that, and
he almost hurt one of his teammates doing it, which
would have been interesting because he didn't want to get
hurt the first time, is what he said. Then he
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went to go do it. He really almost hurt one
of his teammates trying to make the tackle. He just
throwing his body out there. You know, who knows. I
wonder if that's where he hurt of shin. You know,
maybe it was on it at some point during a
play where he was trying to make Maybe he's trying
to make like not make that tackle hurts the ship
on that play. I don't know. Yeah, interesting interesting development there,
but we will get to the bottom of that. And again,
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just the three hour celebration of LaVar Arrington. In the
history this history, there's never been a Lion's first win
Fantasy Draft done here on t pros. Joe and I think,
you know, Brady is disappointed. I heard it in his
voice when he was saying that I was I won
by default, but you know what, whether I got I
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just like to paint out a like realistic picture of
just so people understand and I don't stand. And by
the way, I really enjoyed watching you guys on Saturday.
I mean it was it was you know, you guys
had some great excitement to you. It was it was
you know. And by the way, and by the way,
I really enjoyed listening to your show and congratulations. And
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on the Saturday day is Jonas doing that solos with it?
I heard him by myself. I mean the control was
with him. He was like every time Jonas works, he
just tried. He hogs it for himself. That well, he
doesn't guy the answer to anybody on those those solo shows. Yeah,
he did a four hour overnight show by himself. Why
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do you think that was? That's torture. I don't know
why I decided to do that. Yes, probably beats himself
with a belt at night. I don't know, honest, the
guys that that is tortured overnight for four hours by yourself.
That's like the people beat themselves with. Yeah, just leave that. Yeah,
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oh yeah, we will not repeat to us in the air.
We will not repeat that on the air either. All Right,
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Here on fs are Coming up later on this hour,
we are going to have another edition of the f
s R. I R gonna report some issues from members
of the crew over the course of the weekend. It
did to be a wild one. I mean, we had
Brady in Indianapolis, we had Labar in Vegas. We had
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Roberto on Twitter going on on a storm. So we'll
get to that here later on this hour on FS
gets responses though, when he goes after these these big
brand people, they respond to him. Oh yeah, so I
think it's the way he goes about going after it
is so vicious, very direct. They have to respond it's
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very direct. It's just I had no idea that Jack
del Rio was gonna be in this idea. It was
such a great coach. But we will we'll get into
all that here throughout the course of the show. So
if the Baltimore Ravens end up not having the one
seed in the a f C playoffs, Um, who's going
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to be the first to point to their decision to
go for two yesterday? Uh? Intentions on how they finish out.
I mean, you know, if it turns out that they
win the rest of the way and position themselves to
come up that short because of that game, then we'll
reference that. People will reference that moment. That's a lot
of people. Look, look, even Mike Tomlin said he wasn't surprised.
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I mean, they play you know the whole you know what,
what's that called the analytics of it all? And and
and pull all that, and so it made sense to
go for analytically speaking, So they were waiting for it
um and and it's by you know, it's just by desire,
by you know, philosophies. You know, some people would have said,
let's live to fight another day, regardless of whatever the
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reasoning is that you were going to go for the two.
You climb back into it. You got to a point
of where you can tide the game up. They wanted
to win it. You you get the points, you look
like a brilliant genius. There their fingertip catch away a
drop you know, away from from winning the game. It
wasn't like it was a bad call. It just you know,
just didn't connect. But it is what it is. You
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gotta take chances. I kind of look at it a
little differently because I feel like no one's gonna deny that,
like balt More is the better team, at least they
have been this season. And in that instance, there's two
ways of looking at it. You can say, if you
prolong the game, meaning you've got Justin Tucker him kicking
a p a t making it you you know, his money,
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and so that just extends the game into overtime. The
longer you play the game, the better team usually is
gonna end up winning. The problem is is that they
were down cornerbacks and so that was gonna become a
bit of an issue if Pittsburgh continue to throw the
football make big plays with Johnson and Claypool on the outside,
like they started to or you started to see more
in the second half, and and and so I think
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that's more of the concern now even moving forward, is
not just that decision in this game, but like how healthy,
what are they gonna be the rest of the season,
their secondary because that group has started to really struggle.
So I understand part of the decision was out of
the fact that, hey, we can't we can't afford to
go to overtime because we don't have the bodies to
do it. So we got to try to win this
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thing right now. And and to your point, it was
a good play call. I mean, the play worked, Andrews
was open. The only thing I thought Lamar did to
make that pass more difficult on himself, Well, it wasn't that.
It's the fact that he tried to then step up
instead of continuing to drift back. The longer he the
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more he could have drifted back, even with tem j
Watt in his face, because he was gonna be in
his face regardless. If he could have drifted back and
continually kind of moved to the side of that throw
to the right instead of up and away, he could
have dropped it in. He could have made the throw
easier and that's the only thing that you kind of
watch and go. If I was at his shoes, that's
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the one thing I'd be second guessing about that throw um.
But again I think their hand was more forced. But
they are a team that likes to go for it
and then they like they like to take chances. But
this could be a team that, hey, they looked like
they're at at the top of the af C North,
one of the top teams in the a f C.
But could through injury and everything else just start to
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fall by the wayside. Well, John Harbaugh was asked afterwards
about the decision to go for two. Here's outsounded well
to the decision making to go for two instead of
can just try to win the game? Right there? We
were pretty much out of corners, you know at that
point in time, so opportunity to try to win the
game right there. So if you're one of the corners
who was going to play based on the injuries Marlon
Humphrey suffered a torn pack during the game, or at
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least yeah, at least that's the speculation. So if you're
one of those guys who's like a backup corner, thinking
all right, you know, my time is here and I'm
gonna get an opportunity. And your coach says, well, we
we risked the potential home field advantage in the playoffs
because we didn't trust you. I mean, I know you
don't have that many bodies though. That's what you're not
realizing is that you might not even have a nickel package. Yeah,
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I mean, it's the pro but it's the pros. You
can't you can't take that stuff personal like that's that's
just what it is. If they felt that way, that's
what it that's what it is in the moment. And
you know, at some point, at some point, they got
to take a look at themselves to say, I must
be a special teams guy unless I improved, you know,
because it was gonna be special teams guys that were
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going to be playing the starting corner position. And a
lot of times people really don't realize how and I
hate to do this, but there is quite a drop
off a lot of times from the starter to the
next guy's up. There's very few times in the pros
that you have a secondary, a second string guy that's
going to be as good as your starter. You know why,
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because they would be starting somewhere you know, that's the chances,
So you know, I don't I wouldn't take too much
offense to that. I I just I was bothered by
the decision because I was hoping we could get over
time and get more of Tony Romo like that. So
so I was really that was who is that? That
was just really really loving on Tony and our in
our text message, uh saying somebody was really I mean wrong,
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wrong text threat My bad. I'm not on to be
critical about it, but one of the one of the
things he does every single game that I just scratched
my head, and especially now knowing like what he gets
paid to do that job, is when he asked Jim
Nance questions, It's like, no, dude, you're the guy who's
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supposed to be answering, like and maybe it's a rhetorical question.
You could just go on talking, but you're supposed to
be answering the question you're asking Jim dance. Did You
can just hear Jim Nance getting frustrated at times he
just sounds like how long was that drive by the
way Jona, Like that was an insane So Jim Nance
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just gets done explaining Baltimore goes on a ninety nine
yard drive ten minutes and change, YadA, YadA, YadA. Romo
then starts counting out what is and Jim Nance like,
how about Oh yeah, it's like don he just said that,
like you're watching the same game. Are they in different places? Like?
Are they? You actually have to like, this is honest,
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God's truth. You have to stay dialed in. You have
to stay focused in every single minute second of the game.
And it just doesn't seem like Tony is into staying
dout in for the duration of every single moment of
every part of the week. Maybe he was looking at
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tea time it was going into that Detroit Cleveland game
I was in. I was in the production room doing notes,
Like literally hour after hour, I go to my room,
or I go get some food, whatever, watch a movie,
go back down. I think the night before the game,
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I went back down to the production room to try
to go over my notes and and go over everything
that like what's my storyline for the game? What am
I looking for? Like dissecting all the interviews that I did,
Like I think I went down at like four in
the morning. I'm in Granted, it's because we do great Yeah,
you know, but but I was up and it just
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it just seems like, all right, the whole thing is
like being prepped and ready to go and living off
of what it is that you created as as your storyline.
It's like he goes into that bad boy. It's like, here,
I got a game this weekend. I'm gonna show up.
I'm gonna do the game. I'm Tony Romo. Enjoy bitches.
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That's his deal. That's his deal. Like no prep work,
no nothing, like no nothing. Listen, man, hey, if you
can fall it off and get that kind of contract
and salary, good for him. I mean he does. He
goes off of what his conventional wisdom of what his
experience have been when he played, like you know, and
that's why his whole you know, predicting the plays and
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stuff like that. Like if you understand football, it's not
hard to predict what a team is going to do
in certain moments, in certain spots where you're at on
the field, because it's very you know, football is very
scientific and a out of ways it's very regiment oriented,
Like you don't have to be a rocket scientist to
know that, oh, this is third and long, what are
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they gonna do Brady draw or scream like like that
this is what that's what, that's kind of what it is.
So in a lot of cases, when you think about
how how Tony Romo caused the games and and the
reason why maybe it's starting to run a little ragged
on people is because unless you understand what what the
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team what the teams are coming into the game thinking,
like coming into the game takeaways, converting on third downs,
getting off the field on third downs is what Cleveland
wanted to do when they played Detroit Detroit. Detroit wanted
to have more explosive, you know plays. They wanted to
to be able to tackle better. They said that. You
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get little quotes like like uh, Angeloni said no leaky yardage,
which I've never heard that term before. Loved it now.
I could use the term and be like anzelone. He's
saying leaky yardage meaning don't make a don't make contact
with the tackle and not be able to get him down.
But you figured all that out because you talk to
them during these these meetings. Conte, I don't know if
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I want him to stop drawing on the screen like
he's trying to predict things again and he's now he's
never right. Like it was cute initially when he had
like six New England Patriot games and he was calling
out stuff which isn't too difficult to understand. But then
he gets now in the games where he's like, oh,
this guy's plits in it and he doesn't blits and
this guy's oh he checked out, Like he's always like
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making an excuse for when he's wrong, and it's like, hey,
just tell us why things are happening, Like what's happening?
There's some drawing on the screen during the play, don't react,
don't predict like and and I think it's probably you
know what's even funnier about it, though, is his nonchalant
is it is? It? Is it horrible to say nonchalant
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air against like I'm I know what I'm talking about.
You know if I got that one around, well, it's
like it's like I'm as a matter of fact, it's like,
you know it's gonna be a draw. But it wasn't
a drawing. You know why, because they're not making the
right play calls. When when when Baltimore went for two,
roma was a god I wish it would go for
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two here I know, I know they won't, but I
wish it would go for two. They literally showed on
the screen Hardball hold up two fingers like he looked like,
and the offense stayed out there he held up two fingers.
I think of myself, dude, it's just monitor broken, like
he would have to be watching it. You gotta be
watching it. I think they have a putting green in
the in the bush. Might be that might be. It
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might be the case he might be watching alternate programming
on on his cell phone or something. You just never know,
you know, not on WiFi data. You don't. You don't
want them addresses popping up on the on the Okay,
I get it. I will not in that case always forgiven,
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so so con uh to Mr Robo. We'll leave it there.
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Uh No, I don't know if you guys saw this.
You know, might have gotten buried in the headlines, but um,
you know a report from Adam Schefter, Uh the the
guy who has an investment I believe in a gambling site.
Is that what it is? Something like that? So the
gambling website investor Adam Schefter who said that Ben Roethlisberger
has told teammates and some within the organization that he
expects us to be his final season with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Now Ben was now now Roethlisberger was asked about it
after the game. Here's outside and honestly, we just got
done with this game. I'm exhausted. That's my focus. My
focus is on Minnesota and what we have to do
to get ready. I'll dress that stuff after the season.
I've I've always been a one game at a time,
one season at a time person. I'm gonna stay that way. Yeah.
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So so there it is. So I know, I know
information from Ben Roethlisberger, but we were talking about this
weeks ago that he's this is it for him, right,
I mean, at least in Pittsburgh. And and the fact
that he even came back this year was more of
a contractual thing, wasn't it. Like, if I'm not mistaken
that they that they looked at it and just said
to themselves, all right, contractually it makes sense to bring
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him back. But I don't think anybody expects him to
be back next year. For Pittsburgh got that they had to.
They had to rework the contract for him to come back. Right.
There was the whole I took a pay cut for
you guys to come back. So the season of giving,
I mean, what do you want from exactly. Yeah, jat
is the reason why I took That's exactly the reason
why I didn't take as much money. It's not not
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because I sucked now, It's just because it's exactly what
we needed, was that t J. Watt impact that game.
Think about it, guys, I take this thing one game
out of time, but I gave up that money for
t J. Watt, who won the game for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
T J. Watt. Yeah, there you go by way of
Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, I was gonna say, really, somewhere he's
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he's saying, Hey, that's because of me. He's not out there.
I wasn't because of me. Um. The interesting thing about
the comment is that had to have come from Ben Roethlisberger.
I mean, it couldn't come from anyone else. And how
it's worded that this will be his last season with
the Steelers, it kind of leaves that open ended, like, well,
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maybe he could finish somewhere else, you know, maybe he
wouldn't just retire and only be a Steeler. Maybe there's
that open ended possibility of him signing somewhere else meanwhile,
letting the Steelers move on in a different direction. So
I thought that was interesting how it was worded, because
when you see a report like that, you do have
to pay attention to how it is worded because it's
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it's fed to Adam Schefter in that way, and we
know from Adam Schefter's past that he will work with
whoever it is to make sure it is worded in
the proper Yeah, it would be the first time that
beloved future Hall of Famer left UH and played for
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someone else for like a season after they left the
Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, Franco did it. He went to Seattle,
you know, after he left Pittsburgh, and I mean he
was a beloved four time Super Bowl champ, iman he
went somewhere else. So there, if Ben's not done, no
one has the right to tell Ben when he needs
to be done. If Ben figures out he can do.
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I mean, we just saw Adrian Peterson break a record
for what his third fourth team in his career, So
I mean, but you'd have to assume it is done
in Pittsburgh after this year. What options are going to
be available to him? I mean as a starter, I
don't know, but as a backup, I mean, there's always
going to be a job. Like you. If you want
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to be astonished at something on your spare time, go
take a look at the backup quarterbacks that are either
in the league or have just retired in the league
and look at how long they've been in the league for. Yeah,
it'll blow your mind. But does Roethlisberger strike He's the
guy who wants to be a backup. I mean it
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doesn't matter at this point. If he wants to still play.
He might not be a starting caliber quarterback in the
league right now. He would have to be. He understands
what his situation is. You gotta understand it. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, if he doesn't want to be
a backup, he'll probably be sitting on But he got
piste off. They drafted Mason Rudolph and called into a
sports radio show on the weekends. Uh, to go ahead
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and complain about it. Wasn't he looking at retiring like
five years ago? He's hinted at it like four times.
And if you don't want to do it, you don't
want to do it. That was the entering. More like
Brett Farve Territory. Brett didn't want to do it. He
didn't want to do it like that guys like that,
like you got it so good. There's some guys you
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just got to force them out, like they can't have
any more options because you realize how good you have it.
I'm dotting transformed his body in the offseason. Yeah, it
looked exactly the same, Like send more pounds on that listen.
That is uh you know, I mean the TV ads
ten pounds. I don't know if you know that. It
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was a different camera about it. It's Tim pounds, Tim
more pounds. What do you think he did? He was
vegan for like, oh my god. Yeah, it's like now
he went from port to Turkey. That's all that diet.
It was still the same amount though diet starts Monday.
That's the Yeah, the old adage. Um, all right, it
is two pros and the cup and chill from regular
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needs he needs help? But I think we need to
introduce a segment on the show called I need help.
Well listen, we will speaking of a segments top and
next down. We are going to get into, uh, you
know that there was you know, maybe a little bit
of shenanigans by some by some decision makers in the
world of sports. We're gonna get into all that here
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a little over ten minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio.
Now every single time it this week here on Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe, we like to report
to injuries issues, anything ailments that were going on throughout
the course of the weekend, and a little something we
do called this after your sports week at half. So
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it's toime to get the that's are report? All right?
Who wants to go first? Anybody got something to report?
LaVar arr in Vegas, that's my injury report right there.
I was on the plane right, sick, sick as hell yesterday.
I just I got vegas flu I got caught up
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into the Vegas environment and caught the vegas flu um.
And it was called what the grapefruit? Uh, cas amegoes
flew a little grape food a group. It caught, it
caught me. I was sitting on I was holding a
bar bag on the plane. Yeah it was bad. Yeah
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it was. I thought those were just to put like
a trash it like I actually actually, but I was close.
You know how your body starts to heat up and
then you're starts to secrete something different before it happens,
I started like overheating, and I'm looking like I don't
have that many layers on. I'd have to. I would
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still be hot, but naked. From Vegas to l a
like four hours, four or four and a half hours.
I gotta be honest with you, man, If I was
feeling like that, I'd call an audible and I would
just drive. But here's what's bad, Brady. I was feeling
bad on the on the ride over to the airport,
and the airport's like two minutes away. It was two
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minutes away. I was in the back of the car like, oh,
I'm feeling bad. I was feeling bad in the back
of the car, So it would have been just as
bad driving. Yeah, but you could at least just pull
over and just well, that's fair, that's fair. I would
have been. I would have been all my knees. I'll
say this though, that drive back from Vegas is a
miserable existence. If you get caught in the traffic and
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I don't care, there could be no traffic. It's miserable driving,
I know. But it's just a feeling how you feel.
You just feel like saying, like the little little the
field of of you know, the sun, what's that the
sun joins the birds get disintegrate it and you know whatever,
Oh they got one of those what's what's that joint
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called with the solar solar power? Justin Cooper who is
in for legal appidate? Coop, you're a Vegas flu guy.
What's what's what's that thing on the way to Vegas?
What is it? It's like it's like a solar farm. Yeah,
it's and tell them about it. If a bird flies
over top of it, right, they get they disappear Like
I didn't know that part. Yeah, Like you talk at
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the truth. How is Peter not all over look it up?
Look at it like the people who are all for
the climate shape. So the heat that's being generated off
of that those solar farms, it's so intense that if
a bird flies through it, it's explodes. It's out of
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that bluff. You're out of there, that eddy. Have you
ever heard of this bird's exploding when they fly over
a certain place on the way to Vegas? No, but
I'm watching a CBS news report right now says it's
entitled California's solar power plants a night birds midflight. I know,
I don't know stuff like this, but I'm looking up.
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Either way, it's a lot cooler to see it on
the way there than it is on the way back. Man,
I don't, I don't. I don't need to feel like
you've lost over and lost money at the same time.
But I didn't even gamble, I mean lavarre making birds
explode on the air.
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I didn't say Iowa. Now if you would have said
Io would have hit differently, because Pinn state, we know
we're sitting at home. We're going to the Outback Bowl.
We'll play a little bit of Arkansas, you know what
I mean, We get a little bit of Arkansas, some tomato,
apple apples. Arkansas. They still do that blooming onion. Uh?
Was it like the depending on the team that wins
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you if you go to an outback it was like
you got a blooming onion and there was like some
other like Cajun chicken strips or some of coconut sh Yeah,
something like that. I don't know. Played an Outback Bowl
one year. We played against Tom Couch. How was it?
You know, Brady knows who Tom Couches beloved Cleveland Brown. Well, no, no, no,
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I knew him back he was playing at Kentucky. Yeah, yeah,
he was like Kentucky. Yeah. It was really good man.
He was supposed to be the next guy. Then he
ran into Penn State and his his his last game
of his college career, and he figured out that if
this is what the league is going to be like,
probably should start saving my money up and making sure I'll,
you know, figure out what's next in my careers. You know,
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well here's what's next. Congratulations. We had our Detroit Lions
first win Fantasy draft last week. I had it. I
had it figured out and the LaVar Arrington had the
Minnesota Vikings being the team that would fall to the
Detroit Lions, and congratulations, you got it done yesterday. Thank you.
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I mean they tried, They certainly tried to lose it.
For on the text message, I was like, you know,
we were close, man, Like it seemed like everything was
going the way at Detroit and they were gonna just
breaze by. And then all of a sudden it was like,
what the hell is going on here? And it went
down to the final drive and Jared Goff gets it
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done man, and Dan Campbell gets his first win. Labart
the hardest one to get. The first one is the
hardest one to get. Now. I don't know how many
more they'll win, but once you get that first win again,
I lived it. We went oh in five. We didn't
go as far um as long in the season losing
as as Detroit did. But I'll tell you what, once
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we got that first win, it just sometimes it's the
Sometimes it's more compelling for that team that gets their
first win to play amazingly more amazingly after that, then
the other teams teams that should beat them, they just
don't play as well, because it's like it's like their
seasons just starting. They don't have the fatigue of being eight, nine,
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ten games into the year. Their getting their season just
started when they got that one win. And sometimes that's dangerous. Man.
You get a team that starts feeling that way this
late in the season as that you know, they could
be a trap game for a lot of guys. I
think it's bigger for them just to not be a
part of history, like the bad side, the wrong side
of it, right, Like we know there's been a Lions
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team that's been a part of that too. I mean
you joke about it with like a guy like Daniel
Lobski was a part of that. It the reality is
like that's that will always stay with you, you know.
And the Browns were a part of that. So I
think the biggest thing for Jared Goff and Dan Campbell,
that whole crew was just being able to kind of
get that off their back where they knew it was
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gonna be a rough season. I don't know any de
Troy Lyons fans that thought this was gonna be like
a playoff team. But now they get that off their
back and they can move forward, and I think The
other thing you've got to acknowledge is just the the
tragedy that took place last week, the emotions that were
tied to it, And you know, I know a lot
of times we hate kind of that intersection of sports
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and in real life when there's tragedies out there, but sometimes,
you know, teams and events like that can be kind
of a beacon of light and hope, and um, I
just it was awesome to be able to see the
way that they played, especially in the final moments where
that you kind of felt like there's a little something
extra helping them out to be able to get that win,
so that the whole way around, it was awesome to
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see just the emotions of Dan Campbell and Jared Goff
And after you threw the touchdown pass me, who did
you go? Hug Hunter? I was just gonna say, it
ran directly at Dan Campbell and you could sell whatever
they were saying to each other. That was a moment
that like, those two men will never forget and it
will go down and it will be missed by everyone
else the rest of their lives. But those two guys
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know the struggle they've been in this entire year. That's
the cool thing to me about all this, and and
and you could tell Jared Goff knew how big that
was for Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell afterwards gave the game
ball obviously, and all the victims read their names off
one by one there, you know, after the tragedy out there,
and it was yeah, it was awesome to see. Uh So,
so the Lions are a winner. LaVar Arrington is a winner.
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Just congratulations again their sticks and I'm just getting it done, man,
just done. Man. I won't I won't bloat or brag
about it, you guys, But the reality is this. Did
you pick first? I picked five? Yeah, so you fell
into it like you were like the new Elood Patriots
by drafting Tom Brady. But you passed up on the
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first five rounds like you didn't have a choice that.
I like what you did there, qu not Like, I'm
just painting out the reality. Like I had them picked out.
I had them picked out up in here, I had
my strategy together. It's all right, Yeah, I mean, I'm
sight as always, you know, you know it could be revisionist.
(06:29):
I'm just painting out the reality of the situation was
there were four other people who selected before you all
of games of which you could have selected, and the
reality is we will never know because you were you
had one of two games to pick, and you took
one that Jonas. I don't. I don't know that Jonas
wanted that one. Maybe I don't think anybody wanted that.
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I didn't checked me. Listen, the one that I wanted
Brady stole. So this is so you're you're deserving to
win after the scam that Brady Quinn pulled on the air,
making a pick, then going back on the pick and
then makes another one. So he went back on the
pick four team. That well, whether they win or lose,
I want cheaters can't be rewarded on this show. Sorry.
(07:11):
I won't go as far as the hitting with cheater,
but I don't think cheating is the way to play
this game. The first ever, however, I do like how
you've changed the attention on to Brady and got it
off for me. Thank you, thank you very much. The
first ever of the seven team game season. Yet you
know there are first in sports talk radio. That's how
(07:32):
it's done. Now, how how bad on the How quiet
Berto is back there? Right? Bert? He's too busy attacking
people on Twitter. He also realized that his team lost
to you know, Washington. So he's real quiet back there.
No sound effects, yeah, no sound effects, no nothing from
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Berto was just back there. It is uh listen, shaved,
he's clean shaving. He's seeing me looking all like young.
He got the young butt face going on. Man, everything
is good. Yeah, Berto was, you know, he was fired up.
I mean, listen, there's a lot of reason to be
fired up yesterday, you know around the NFL. Um. I mean,
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell that
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was last night on Sunday Night football? Was that an
impressive performance by Kansas City? Or is Denver just not
have anything on offense? Trash last night? But give well,
I was gonna ask you, Lavark, we give a big
Fangio of some credit, Like I don't I don't know
how many times how many times have they played on
since he's been head coach? Was that there there, like
seventh time? Yeah? Yeah, the third year for Fangio? Right
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yeah yeah, so this fifth? Okay, Yeah, it's an odd
number one way or another. But the point is this,
I feel like they're always low scoring games. Like he
does as good of a job as anyone against them
as far as trying to kind of keep them down
or like limit the impact of Mahomes everyone else. And
now they've got the personnel. Like one thing you see
that it was pointed out a one point. You don't
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see many teams play as much man to man as
the Broncos can against the Kansas City Chiefs because they've
drafted and they've brought in guys to be able to
match up with them, Like that was the whole m O.
But I mean, they just can't get out of their
own way offensive. They're a quarterback away, man, they are
a quarterback away. You put Watson, you put Rogers, you
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put Russell Wilson on that roster. That team is a
playoff team that may intent for something even bigger than that.
So it's it's hard to watch. Man. I think they
let him down up front to like Teddy Bridgewater didn't
do himself any justice the way that he played. He's
just got such a nonchalant look, like if you want
to get mad at him when you want, like dude,
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can you care a little bit more? But I mean,
and listen, quarterbacks are wired differently. They gotta stay calm,
like I had Tony Banks was one of my teammates,
and he I used to go like, I would be
a dude that randomly grab your headphones and see what
you were listening to before you know, I grabbed Lineman headphones.
It would be like straight head banger music, you know,
(10:04):
heavy metal stuff like that. You know you grabbed the quarterback.
I grabbed Tony Banks's headphones, and it'd be like or
day playing, Like like what the he are you listening to? Bro?
Like do you understand We're about to go play a
full contact football game? Like why are you slow jamming?
Like you you you want some wine? You want you
want some candle light bro before the game. But I mean, listen,
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I don't know. All I know is this. I wish
that that. I wish that that Teddy was just a
little bit more pumped up about what was going on
out there. But his offensive line, I thought that was
the biggest tale of the tape. In this game, the
offensive line did not do a good enough job of
holding up there into the bargain, not in the run game,
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not in the passing game. That that Kansas City Front
disrupted the entire game. They they impacted the game, and
that was the difference in the game as far as
offensively for Kansas City. When I look at Kansas City's offense,
I say to myself and you, I'm sure they did
a great job of holding them off of the board.
But most teams have held them off the board this
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year like they do in a different way. Fair enough,
fair enough, But this, this Kansas City team is figuring out.
And this is this is the biggest thing that kind
of goes to the point of view saying that they
could end up being that that Super Bowl contender again
or should be looked at. They are figuring it out
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in terms of winning the way they're winning. And it's
not with fifty sixty points. It's like with sixteen or eighteen.
You know that. But they're figuring it out. Did we
did we figure out what the status was of Teddy
B's shin there with the shin pad, get a little
shin guard for Teddy B? What was going on with that?
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We got? Did he take a cleat? Were they treating
a staff in faction? Was there to make a tackle
on his his touchdown an interception this game? I mean
it was a much better attempt. Yeah, I mean he
learned he could he could have done with that, and
he almost hurt one of his teammates doing it, which
would have been interesting because he didn't want to get
hurt the first time, is what he said. Then he
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went to go do it. He really almost hurt one
of his teammates trying to make the tackle. He just
throwing his body out there. You know, who knows. I
wonder if that's where he hurt of shin. You know,
maybe it was on it at some point during a
play where he was trying to make Maybe he's trying
to make like not make that tackle hurts the ship
on that play. I don't know. Yeah, interesting interesting development there,
but we will get to the bottom of that. And again,
(12:33):
just the three hour celebration of LaVar Arrington. In the
history this history, there's never been a Lion's first win
Fantasy Draft done here on t pros. Joe and I think,
you know, Brady is disappointed. I heard it in his
voice when he was saying that I was I won
by default, but you know what, whether I got I
(12:54):
just like to paint out a like realistic picture of
just so people understand and I don't stand. And by
the way, I really enjoyed watching you guys on Saturday.
I mean it was it was you know, you guys
had some great excitement to you. It was it was
you know. And by the way, and by the way,
I really enjoyed listening to your show and congratulations. And
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on the Saturday day is Jonas doing that solos with it?
I heard him by myself. I mean the control was
with him. He was like every time Jonas works, he
just tried. He hogs it for himself. That well, he
doesn't guy the answer to anybody on those those solo shows. Yeah,
he did a four hour overnight show by himself. Why
(13:38):
do you think that was? That's torture. I don't know
why I decided to do that. Yes, probably beats himself
with a belt at night. I don't know, honest, the
guys that that is tortured overnight for four hours by yourself.
That's like the people beat themselves with. Yeah, just leave that. Yeah,
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oh yeah, we will not repeat to us in the air.
We will not repeat that on the air either. All Right,
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it could have changed the playoff picture for an entire conference.
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Here on fs are Coming up later on this hour,
we are going to have another edition of the f
s R. I R gonna report some issues from members
of the crew over the course of the weekend. It
did to be a wild one. I mean, we had
Brady in Indianapolis, we had Labar in Vegas. We had
(15:04):
Roberto on Twitter going on on a storm. So we'll
get to that here later on this hour on FS
gets responses though, when he goes after these these big
brand people, they respond to him. Oh yeah, so I
think it's the way he goes about going after it
is so vicious, very direct. They have to respond it's
(15:26):
very direct. It's just I had no idea that Jack
del Rio was gonna be in this idea. It was
such a great coach. But we will we'll get into
all that here throughout the course of the show. So
if the Baltimore Ravens end up not having the one
seed in the a f C playoffs, Um, who's going
(15:48):
to be the first to point to their decision to
go for two yesterday? Uh? Intentions on how they finish out.
I mean, you know, if it turns out that they
win the rest of the way and position themselves to
come up that short because of that game, then we'll
reference that. People will reference that moment. That's a lot
of people. Look, look, even Mike Tomlin said he wasn't surprised.
(16:10):
I mean, they play you know the whole you know what,
what's that called the analytics of it all? And and
and pull all that, and so it made sense to
go for analytically speaking, So they were waiting for it
um and and it's by you know, it's just by desire,
by you know, philosophies. You know, some people would have said,
let's live to fight another day, regardless of whatever the
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reasoning is that you were going to go for the two.
You climb back into it. You got to a point
of where you can tide the game up. They wanted
to win it. You you get the points, you look
like a brilliant genius. There their fingertip catch away a
drop you know, away from from winning the game. It
wasn't like it was a bad call. It just you know,
just didn't connect. But it is what it is. You
(16:53):
gotta take chances. I kind of look at it a
little differently because I feel like no one's gonna deny that,
like balt More is the better team, at least they
have been this season. And in that instance, there's two
ways of looking at it. You can say, if you
prolong the game, meaning you've got Justin Tucker him kicking
a p a t making it you you know, his money,
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and so that just extends the game into overtime. The
longer you play the game, the better team usually is
gonna end up winning. The problem is is that they
were down cornerbacks and so that was gonna become a
bit of an issue if Pittsburgh continue to throw the
football make big plays with Johnson and Claypool on the outside,
like they started to or you started to see more
in the second half, and and and so I think
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that's more of the concern now even moving forward, is
not just that decision in this game, but like how healthy,
what are they gonna be the rest of the season,
their secondary because that group has started to really struggle.
So I understand part of the decision was out of
the fact that, hey, we can't we can't afford to
go to overtime because we don't have the bodies to
do it. So we got to try to win this
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thing right now. And and to your point, it was
a good play call. I mean, the play worked, Andrews
was open. The only thing I thought Lamar did to
make that pass more difficult on himself, Well, it wasn't that.
It's the fact that he tried to then step up
instead of continuing to drift back. The longer he the
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more he could have drifted back, even with tem j
Watt in his face, because he was gonna be in
his face regardless. If he could have drifted back and
continually kind of moved to the side of that throw
to the right instead of up and away, he could
have dropped it in. He could have made the throw
easier and that's the only thing that you kind of
watch and go. If I was at his shoes, that's
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the one thing I'd be second guessing about that throw um.
But again I think their hand was more forced. But
they are a team that likes to go for it
and then they like they like to take chances. But
this could be a team that, hey, they looked like
they're at at the top of the af C North,
one of the top teams in the a f C.
But could through injury and everything else just start to
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fall by the wayside. Well, John Harbaugh was asked afterwards
about the decision to go for two. Here's outsounded well
to the decision making to go for two instead of
can just try to win the game? Right there? We
were pretty much out of corners, you know at that
point in time, so opportunity to try to win the
game right there. So if you're one of the corners
who was going to play based on the injuries Marlon
Humphrey suffered a torn pack during the game, or at
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least yeah, at least that's the speculation. So if you're
one of those guys who's like a backup corner, thinking
all right, you know, my time is here and I'm
gonna get an opportunity. And your coach says, well, we
we risked the potential home field advantage in the playoffs
because we didn't trust you. I mean, I know you
don't have that many bodies though. That's what you're not
realizing is that you might not even have a nickel package. Yeah,
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I mean, it's the pro but it's the pros. You
can't you can't take that stuff personal like that's that's
just what it is. If they felt that way, that's
what it that's what it is in the moment. And
you know, at some point, at some point, they got
to take a look at themselves to say, I must
be a special teams guy unless I improved, you know,
because it was gonna be special teams guys that were
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going to be playing the starting corner position. And a
lot of times people really don't realize how and I
hate to do this, but there is quite a drop
off a lot of times from the starter to the
next guy's up. There's very few times in the pros
that you have a secondary, a second string guy that's
going to be as good as your starter. You know why,
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because they would be starting somewhere you know, that's the chances,
So you know, I don't I wouldn't take too much
offense to that. I I just I was bothered by
the decision because I was hoping we could get over
time and get more of Tony Romo like that. So
so I was really that was who is that? That
was just really really loving on Tony and our in
our text message, uh saying somebody was really I mean wrong,
(20:56):
wrong text threat My bad. I'm not on to be
critical about it, but one of the one of the
things he does every single game that I just scratched
my head, and especially now knowing like what he gets
paid to do that job, is when he asked Jim
Nance questions, It's like, no, dude, you're the guy who's
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supposed to be answering, like and maybe it's a rhetorical question.
You could just go on talking, but you're supposed to
be answering the question you're asking Jim dance. Did You
can just hear Jim Nance getting frustrated at times he
just sounds like how long was that drive by the
way Jona, Like that was an insane So Jim Nance
(21:38):
just gets done explaining Baltimore goes on a ninety nine
yard drive ten minutes and change, YadA, YadA, YadA. Romo
then starts counting out what is and Jim Nance like,
how about Oh yeah, it's like don he just said that,
like you're watching the same game. Are they in different places? Like?
Are they? You actually have to like, this is honest,
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God's truth. You have to stay dialed in. You have
to stay focused in every single minute second of the game.
And it just doesn't seem like Tony is into staying
dout in for the duration of every single moment of
every part of the week. Maybe he was looking at
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tea time it was going into that Detroit Cleveland game
I was in. I was in the production room doing notes,
Like literally hour after hour, I go to my room,
or I go get some food, whatever, watch a movie,
go back down. I think the night before the game,
(22:44):
I went back down to the production room to try
to go over my notes and and go over everything
that like what's my storyline for the game? What am
I looking for? Like dissecting all the interviews that I did,
Like I think I went down at like four in
the morning. I'm in Granted, it's because we do great Yeah,
you know, but but I was up and it just
(23:04):
it just seems like, all right, the whole thing is
like being prepped and ready to go and living off
of what it is that you created as as your storyline.
It's like he goes into that bad boy. It's like, here,
I got a game this weekend. I'm gonna show up.
I'm gonna do the game. I'm Tony Romo. Enjoy bitches.
(23:24):
That's his deal. That's his deal. Like no prep work,
no nothing, like no nothing. Listen, man, hey, if you
can fall it off and get that kind of contract
and salary, good for him. I mean he does. He
goes off of what his conventional wisdom of what his
experience have been when he played, like you know, and
that's why his whole you know, predicting the plays and
(23:46):
stuff like that. Like if you understand football, it's not
hard to predict what a team is going to do
in certain moments, in certain spots where you're at on
the field, because it's very you know, football is very
scientific and a out of ways it's very regiment oriented,
Like you don't have to be a rocket scientist to
know that, oh, this is third and long, what are
(24:08):
they gonna do Brady draw or scream like like that
this is what that's what, that's kind of what it is.
So in a lot of cases, when you think about
how how Tony Romo caused the games and and the
reason why maybe it's starting to run a little ragged
on people is because unless you understand what what the
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team what the teams are coming into the game thinking,
like coming into the game takeaways, converting on third downs,
getting off the field on third downs is what Cleveland
wanted to do when they played Detroit Detroit. Detroit wanted
to have more explosive, you know plays. They wanted to
to be able to tackle better. They said that. You
(24:53):
get little quotes like like uh, Angeloni said no leaky yardage,
which I've never heard that term before. Loved it now.
I could use the term and be like anzelone. He's
saying leaky yardage meaning don't make a don't make contact
with the tackle and not be able to get him down.
But you figured all that out because you talk to
them during these these meetings. Conte, I don't know if
(25:17):
I want him to stop drawing on the screen like
he's trying to predict things again and he's now he's
never right. Like it was cute initially when he had
like six New England Patriot games and he was calling
out stuff which isn't too difficult to understand. But then
he gets now in the games where he's like, oh,
this guy's plits in it and he doesn't blits and
this guy's oh he checked out, Like he's always like
(25:38):
making an excuse for when he's wrong, and it's like, hey,
just tell us why things are happening, Like what's happening?
There's some drawing on the screen during the play, don't react,
don't predict like and and I think it's probably you
know what's even funnier about it, though, is his nonchalant
is it is? It? Is it horrible to say nonchalant
(25:59):
air against like I'm I know what I'm talking about.
You know if I got that one around, well, it's
like it's like I'm as a matter of fact, it's like,
you know it's gonna be a draw. But it wasn't
a drawing. You know why, because they're not making the
right play calls. When when when Baltimore went for two,
roma was a god I wish it would go for
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two here I know, I know they won't, but I
wish it would go for two. They literally showed on
the screen Hardball hold up two fingers like he looked like,
and the offense stayed out there he held up two fingers.
I think of myself, dude, it's just monitor broken, like
he would have to be watching it. You gotta be
watching it. I think they have a putting green in
the in the bush. Might be that might be. It
(26:43):
might be the case he might be watching alternate programming
on on his cell phone or something. You just never know,
you know, not on WiFi data. You don't. You don't
want them addresses popping up on the on the Okay,
I get it. I will not in that case always forgiven,
(27:05):
so so con uh to Mr Robo. We'll leave it there.
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Uh No, I don't know if you guys saw this.
You know, might have gotten buried in the headlines, but um,
you know a report from Adam Schefter, Uh the the
guy who has an investment I believe in a gambling site.
Is that what it is? Something like that? So the
gambling website investor Adam Schefter who said that Ben Roethlisberger
has told teammates and some within the organization that he
expects us to be his final season with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
(28:36):
Now Ben was now now Roethlisberger was asked about it
after the game. Here's outside and honestly, we just got
done with this game. I'm exhausted. That's my focus. My
focus is on Minnesota and what we have to do
to get ready. I'll dress that stuff after the season.
I've I've always been a one game at a time,
one season at a time person. I'm gonna stay that way. Yeah.
(28:58):
So so there it is. So I know, I know
information from Ben Roethlisberger, but we were talking about this
weeks ago that he's this is it for him, right,
I mean, at least in Pittsburgh. And and the fact
that he even came back this year was more of
a contractual thing, wasn't it. Like, if I'm not mistaken
that they that they looked at it and just said
to themselves, all right, contractually it makes sense to bring
(29:19):
him back. But I don't think anybody expects him to
be back next year. For Pittsburgh got that they had to.
They had to rework the contract for him to come back. Right.
There was the whole I took a pay cut for
you guys to come back. So the season of giving,
I mean, what do you want from exactly. Yeah, jat
is the reason why I took That's exactly the reason
why I didn't take as much money. It's not not
(29:42):
because I sucked now, It's just because it's exactly what
we needed, was that t J. Watt impact that game.
Think about it, guys, I take this thing one game
out of time, but I gave up that money for
t J. Watt, who won the game for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
T J. Watt. Yeah, there you go by way of
Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, I was gonna say, really, somewhere he's
(30:03):
he's saying, Hey, that's because of me. He's not out there.
I wasn't because of me. Um. The interesting thing about
the comment is that had to have come from Ben Roethlisberger.
I mean, it couldn't come from anyone else. And how
it's worded that this will be his last season with
the Steelers, it kind of leaves that open ended, like, well,
(30:24):
maybe he could finish somewhere else, you know, maybe he
wouldn't just retire and only be a Steeler. Maybe there's
that open ended possibility of him signing somewhere else meanwhile,
letting the Steelers move on in a different direction. So
I thought that was interesting how it was worded, because
when you see a report like that, you do have
to pay attention to how it is worded because it's
(30:45):
it's fed to Adam Schefter in that way, and we
know from Adam Schefter's past that he will work with
whoever it is to make sure it is worded in
the proper Yeah, it would be the first time that
beloved future Hall of Famer left UH and played for
(31:05):
someone else for like a season after they left the
Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, Franco did it. He went to Seattle,
you know, after he left Pittsburgh, and I mean he
was a beloved four time Super Bowl champ, iman he
went somewhere else. So there, if Ben's not done, no
one has the right to tell Ben when he needs
to be done. If Ben figures out he can do.
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I mean, we just saw Adrian Peterson break a record
for what his third fourth team in his career, So
I mean, but you'd have to assume it is done
in Pittsburgh after this year. What options are going to
be available to him? I mean as a starter, I
don't know, but as a backup, I mean, there's always
going to be a job. Like you. If you want
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to be astonished at something on your spare time, go
take a look at the backup quarterbacks that are either
in the league or have just retired in the league
and look at how long they've been in the league for. Yeah,
it'll blow your mind. But does Roethlisberger strike He's the
guy who wants to be a backup. I mean it
(32:09):
doesn't matter at this point. If he wants to still play.
He might not be a starting caliber quarterback in the
league right now. He would have to be. He understands
what his situation is. You gotta understand it. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, if he doesn't want to be
a backup, he'll probably be sitting on But he got
piste off. They drafted Mason Rudolph and called into a
sports radio show on the weekends. Uh, to go ahead
(32:31):
and complain about it. Wasn't he looking at retiring like
five years ago? He's hinted at it like four times.
And if you don't want to do it, you don't
want to do it. That was the entering. More like
Brett Farve Territory. Brett didn't want to do it. He
didn't want to do it like that guys like that,
like you got it so good. There's some guys you
(32:52):
just got to force them out, like they can't have
any more options because you realize how good you have it.
I'm dotting transformed his body in the offseason. Yeah, it
looked exactly the same, Like send more pounds on that listen.
That is uh you know, I mean the TV ads
ten pounds. I don't know if you know that. It
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was a different camera about it. It's Tim pounds, Tim
more pounds. What do you think he did? He was
vegan for like, oh my god. Yeah, it's like now
he went from port to Turkey. That's all that diet.
It was still the same amount though diet starts Monday.
That's the Yeah, the old adage. Um, all right, it
is two pros and the cup and chill from regular
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(34:17):
needs he needs help? But I think we need to
introduce a segment on the show called I need help.
Well listen, we will speaking of a segments top and
next down. We are going to get into, uh, you
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a little over ten minutes from now on Fox Sports Radio.
Now every single time it this week here on Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe, we like to report
to injuries issues, anything ailments that were going on throughout
the course of the weekend, and a little something we
do called this after your sports week at half. So
(35:01):
it's toime to get the that's are report? All right?
Who wants to go first? Anybody got something to report?
LaVar arr in Vegas, that's my injury report right there.
I was on the plane right, sick, sick as hell yesterday.
I just I got vegas flu I got caught up
(35:22):
into the Vegas environment and caught the vegas flu um.
And it was called what the grapefruit? Uh, cas amegoes
flew a little grape food a group. It caught, it
caught me. I was sitting on I was holding a
bar bag on the plane. Yeah it was bad. Yeah
(35:47):
it was. I thought those were just to put like
a trash it like I actually actually, but I was close.
You know how your body starts to heat up and
then you're starts to secrete something different before it happens,
I started like overheating, and I'm looking like I don't
have that many layers on. I'd have to. I would
(36:08):
still be hot, but naked. From Vegas to l a
like four hours, four or four and a half hours.
I gotta be honest with you, man, If I was
feeling like that, I'd call an audible and I would
just drive. But here's what's bad, Brady. I was feeling
bad on the on the ride over to the airport,
and the airport's like two minutes away. It was two
(36:29):
minutes away. I was in the back of the car like, oh,
I'm feeling bad. I was feeling bad in the back
of the car, So it would have been just as
bad driving. Yeah, but you could at least just pull
over and just well, that's fair, that's fair. I would
have been. I would have been all my knees. I'll
say this though, that drive back from Vegas is a
miserable existence. If you get caught in the traffic and
(36:51):
I don't care, there could be no traffic. It's miserable driving,
I know. But it's just a feeling how you feel.
You just feel like saying, like the little little the
field of of you know, the sun, what's that the
sun joins the birds get disintegrate it and you know whatever,
Oh they got one of those what's what's that joint
(37:12):
called with the solar solar power? Justin Cooper who is
in for legal appidate? Coop, you're a Vegas flu guy.
What's what's what's that thing on the way to Vegas?
What is it? It's like it's like a solar farm. Yeah,
it's and tell them about it. If a bird flies
over top of it, right, they get they disappear Like
I didn't know that part. Yeah, Like you talk at
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the truth. How is Peter not all over look it up?
Look at it like the people who are all for
the climate shape. So the heat that's being generated off
of that those solar farms, it's so intense that if
a bird flies through it, it's explodes. It's out of
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that bluff. You're out of there, that eddy. Have you
ever heard of this bird's exploding when they fly over
a certain place on the way to Vegas? No, but
I'm watching a CBS news report right now says it's
entitled California's solar power plants a night birds midflight. I know,
I don't know stuff like this, but I'm looking up.
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Either way, it's a lot cooler to see it on
the way there than it is on the way back. Man,
I don't, I don't. I don't need to feel like
you've lost over and lost money at the same time.
But I didn't even gamble, I mean lavarre making birds
explode on the air.
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