December 8, 2021 • 47 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington share conspiracy theories about the severity of Aaron Rodgers toe injury. Big Ben voices up for TJ Watt for MVP but this is really Tom Brady's award to lose. Plus, Petros Papadakis from LA FOX Sports relives the Lincoln Riley introductory presser for USC.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with LaVar Arrington, Rady Quinn, and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, I don't know if you happen. Yeah,
it's it's a Wednesday. And you know what that means,
LaVar Well, you know, I know it was Wednesday. You
knew I was gonna do it. At some point in time.
(00:22):
I was going to do it. Bertie Bery by very
very very Joonda Joda, Joda Jodas. You knew I was
gonna do with Berto Berto Berto Lele. You know what
it is. Damn right, it is. Let's go, Let's go,
let's go. Come on, all right, Can I start with
a little bit of a conspiracy thought? I don't know, man,
let me just go, yeah, we get this. Well, Rex Ryan,
(00:47):
I'll just say this. It doesn't involve Rex Ryan. But
I guarantee Rex Ryan is paying very close attention to
this story and he has been for several weeks. So
um Aaron Rodgers updated you know the media, uh a K.
Pat McAfee and Brady's brother in law A J. Hawk,
because those are the only people he does an interview with.
And I don't blame him, to be honest with you,
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and he just tried to you know, gave everybody an
update on his situation with his toe, and um, you
know it's hey, he's not gonna you know, no chance
to have surgery, not gonna miss any time. Uh you know,
needs fourteen to twenty one days to heal. But that's
not gonna happen. So you just kinda gotta deal with
it and move forward. And you know, Dr David Chow
was with us last week and he talked about and
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kind of gave the impression that well, I mean it's
you know, it's it's a toe injury. But it's I mean,
to me, it seems pretty cut and dry. He's not
probably gonna miss any time, not that big of a deal, etcetera, etcetera.
So why is this thing still going on? Why do
we have a constant update on Aaron rodgers toe. Here's
my conspiracy theory. Whoa it depends. I mean, this is
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this is all uh, you know, just kind of you know,
working here in the morning. I here, here we go.
Here's my conspiracy. I think Aaron Rodgers is jerking everybody around.
I think this is the holiday season through the holiday
season stocking stuffer or not, Aaron Rodgers is looking around
going since you, since you guys cared so much about
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my health and about my safety, let me go ahead
and play this game with you. Let me lead you
down the path of a toe injury, an insignificant toe injury,
not even a turf toe, for my understanding. I heard
it was a pinky toe. But let me go ahead
and take you down this road, and we'll see how
obsessed you are with my body, my well being, my health, etcetera, etcetera,
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And let me jerk you right into the holidays with
a little toe injury. Shout out to Rex Ryan. How's
that for a little conspiracy talked about stuff? I mean
it was, you know, a toe stuffern aren't stockings for toes?
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I mean, in theory you're supposed to put your toe
inside of the stocking. So I mean, God forbid, we
don't take the literal meaning of what Aaron Rodgers is
doing to us during the holiday season. He's a stocking stuffer. Um, okay,
let me just say this. Didn't didn't they say fraction
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as sessamoid bone didn't didn't We talked about that like
I've done that it's uh, it is painful for a
period of time. It does have to be surgically fixed
at some point. I mean you can live and move
around without it. I haven't gotten mind fixed yet, but
it's um, it's not gonna get really much better, I
would say. I mean, maybe the the pain tolerance does,
or he just adjust, But I don't know why. I
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think he draws attention to it or there's updates about
it because he's Aaron Rodgers. He's he's potentially gonna be
the league m v P. I don't know if he
could or not. Maybe it helps distract away from the
COVID stuff, right if you start to continually focus on
his status to play, Like like, I don't know about you,
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but with every toe update, I kind of forget that
the whole vaccination immunication thing even happened, And I'm like, oh, well,
is he gonna play this week or not? Like what's
happening just picking out their body part each week and
it's almost like, don't look over here, look this way,
look this way. You know. It's like like a magic trick.
And I gotta be honest with you, I'm following for it,
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like I'm looking I'm like, wait, I'm like, what is
this toe gonna be? Okay? Like is he can he play?
You know, like like what should have been on this game?
I get, I get what's happening here. It is your
classic uh kind of distraction technique where you just try
to get people to look and focus on something else
and then and then all of a sudden, like we've
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got the memory of Goldfish, now we just forget what
was happening like forty seconds ago, and and then we
just focus on what's in front of us. So maybe
that's more of the tactic. I don't know. I I
think that he's keeping people updated because, like everybody said,
you know, you are interested in what you know Aaron
Rodgers has going on. He's probably one of the most
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polarizing figures. I'm not giving a conspiracy theory at this point,
so you know, it is what it is. But you know,
I do I do believe that the idea of Aaron
Rodgers giving his health and medical um rundown on on
a I guess an outlet that isn't connected to going
through the team. That's interesting, you know, And I think
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that can we turn the music off? Please? Please, God, Please,
make it go away. It's so it's okay. It's okay
because I think the conspiracy theory is already out there,
so we don't we don't have to keep it going.
That Does that send shivers up your spine? The No,
because I'm not doing the I'm not doing a conspiracy thing.
(05:55):
I think I'm just kind of bringing it back to
the honest. It bothers you because there were something that
they remember. You don't solve mysteries. There are some there
like update They're like you like that guy is still
out there, like he's still out there creeping around somewhere. Well,
that is true that I will say that that is true.
But in this situation, I think we kind of uh,
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you know, am I wrong for thinking that Aaron Rodgers
is making sure by doing what he's doing that his
play is I'm in control. Like if you think about it,
you we mentioned it at the top right, He's he's
using the McAfee show. So the McAfee show is growing
in popularity and probably large land part. Uh. Nothing to
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take away from his talent, because pat Is is one
of the best talents in the game, But I mean
he's growing his show brand by having the exclusivity of
Aaron Rodgers coming on and giving these these sound bites
that go viral every single time he comes on. So
you think about it, Aaron rod his voice goes viral.
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It's Aaron Rodgers message as well. So he's controlling his
narrative right now through the outlet he wants to control.
And that's a further if you really, I guess, if
you delve into it a little deeper, that's kind of
you're looking at the Green Bay Packers and you're like, oh, well,
you know, players aren't supposed to discuss their health in
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the public. That's supposed to be left up to the
medical staff or to the head coach. Good point, you know,
So I think you got to take a deeper look
and say, Aaron Rodgers, isn't you know, giving us just
a stocking stuffer in terms of what he's got going
on health wise. He's he's still continuing to to give
kind of like a passive aggressive way of saying, I'm
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in control of what's going on with my career here
in Green Bay? Couldn't you just do that though? With
social medias there? You know, he Robertic we hit that again.
Maybe it was erroll conspiracy to your point though, like
he could just do with his own social media. And
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I think one of the things that you're able to
do when you go on a show where you trust
the people you're on there, obviously with Pat McAfee and
a j is you know, they can help you with
that narrative, right, Like they can ask you the questions
so you don't have to stay that yourself to get
you to the points you want to get to or um,
you know you can you can kind of jokingly talk
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about it if you just tweet something out or send
out a video, it kind of comes off as it
is what it is, you know, like people are gonna
necessarily look at or take it as a joke. But
you know when when you when you listen to Pat mcifee,
we listen to a j and those guys they do
a great job. They're they're hilarious. Um. I was in Indianapolis.
People were talking to me about them when we're out
there at an appearance. But the truth is it kind
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of helps you take off some of the burden on
your shoulders to get that message out there in whatever
way you want, right And I think maybe that's a
little bit of a part of it too, where players
can control their own narrative now, but they have to
they have to receive the brunt of it. And that's
the hard part. If if it was as serious, or
if it was really a serious injury or something we
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should be really concerned about, like to the VRS point,
he wouldn't be saying a word about it. Yeah, But
I think that's the brain teaser of it all because
if it were serious, or at the point in time
it could have been serious. If you think about it,
I mean, would he have done Now you got to
take your mind to think it. Would he have done
things the same exact way, not he wouldn't have done it,
or he couldn't have done it. Would he have done it?
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Would he have would he have put it on the line,
or would he have uh, disobeyed to fight the rules
of how things are handled? If this were more serious,
you know, And I think that that's what for me,
that's what I'm left thinking. It's like, huh, if it
was more serious, is this is this still the same
power play? You know? Because I mean in the end,
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if it's more serious, he wouldn't have been playing, so
that then it's an obvious answer and then he can
give his explanation. But I still think that is just
one of those things where I don't look at it as,
you know, anything else outside of or other than Aaron
Rodgers is showing his his dominance as Aaron Rodgers by
the way he's handling the media this year, by giving
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the exclusivity of what he's saying and what he's doing
to to Pat McAfee and a J. Hawk. And he's
been a very mysterious guy, very aloof a lot of
people couldn't get to know him, and now there's a
lot of people that don't like him, a lot of
people out there that's very similar to you. I mean,
you're pretty mysterious. That's a good point, you know. I'm
glad you brought that up. That's that is a good point.
As mysterious as Finley though. I mean Bryan Finley. I
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saw him when I was walking out yesterday and I
looked at Berto and Lee and I was like, dang,
that's that's yeah, that's how hey, can you guys want
me out? I had to do. I had to do
Bowl game previews yesterday all right, which I was I
rate about because something like we did a bowl game
preview that's I'm month away, Like, no, lie, there's a
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bowl game that's being played on January four, okay, and
we're doing a preview on December seven, Like it is.
It makes no sense. It's absolutely assinine, And so I'm
ticked off about it because of a few things. One,
we're trying to give out betting advice, Like there could
be a coaching staff changes, there could be kids who
aren't even playing in this game. I'm like, why are
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we doing this right now? This can't be actually good
betting advice too. It's my own accountability, like integrity that's
on the line. People could be like, well that Jerko
told me to bet on this thing. I'm like, yeah, dude,
we filmed that four weeks ago. I didn't know the
entire team was gonna be out sick with COVID or something.
So it's the worst thing ever. But I was remember
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I remember Brian Finley because one of the bull Bag
game previews we're talking about Oregon State, and as I
was talking about PC Baylor and the Beeves, I was like, oh,
Finley would be proud. We're actually talking about a pat
twelve team right now. His organ state beavers. He loves
those bea he does, so I was giving them a
little bit of love that. I was like, yeah, but
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I'm not picking to cover the spread on this man.
You need any intel on the beaver, you just go
straight over to Brian Finley. He loves the bees man,
He's down with the bees. Yeah, damn right. And plus
Petros papa Ak is going to join us later on.
He'll be you know, he's been. He's called some Beeves
games before as well too. So I've got to ask
petro Us about whatever the hell that was at USC
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with Mike Riley. There was a unbelievable mash up video
that's made its way around that was like a splicer
kudup video between SNL and I guess the press conference
for I don't know if that was that as press conference?
Is that what that was? I think? So, yeah, it
was very bizarre. What's up with that? The whole thing
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is uncomfortable, like, and he seems uncomfortable at times having
to having to go through all this crap. So his
best impression is might be the mic bone impression because
I I I actually jumped down that wormhole where I
was like all right, How accurate is it? He does it?
His norm child is fantastic, but he does a tremendous
owner Mike Ana. Yeah, be sure to catch live editions
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of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
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I Heart Radio app. You guys, remember when Ben Roethlisberger
took a pay cut to get t J. Watt paid. Yeah? Yeah,
that was a big time and so you know, I mean,
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he can't he can't help himself, big Ben. Uh. He
is also now lobbying for t J. Watt to be
the m v P of the NFL. Here he was yesterday.
He should be recognized more than just a deep I mean,
I don't know who else is the defensive player of
the other than that guy. I'm sure there's other candisa.
I just don't know. But he should absolutely get VP
m VP votes as well, because that's what kind of
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player he is. Yeah. So, so I don't know who
else is out there, so I can't I can't uh
compare in contrast what TJ is doing versus everyone else.
But he should be considered the best. Yeah, I forget
all those other guys. I mean, I will say that
he is leading the league in sacks, and I mean
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he has missed games and and I think there's something
to be said about t J. Watt's production. Um, you know,
and and we've looked at Miles Garrett as being you know,
at least a lot of people have said it. I
mean I felt it. He you know, Myles Garrett has
been looked at largely in part this year as probably
the guy you would be looking at being the defensive
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player of the year. But he's actually second to t J. Watt. Okay,
So I would say, while I think Ben's reasoning is
a little bit flimsy, he makes a valid point. Yeah.
I mean, listen, very good year. And the only reason
he's here is because Ben took that pay cut. Well,
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and then the reason why he when m VPS because
Been took that pig. Yes, no, I mean he's look,
he's leaving league in sacks. He is no doubt one
of the best players in the league. Like this is
kind of your Aaron Donald conversation. I think you could
make a case every year that Aaron Donald could win
the m v P because he's that good, he's that
dominant of a defensive player. Statistically speaking, he's won the
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Defensive Player of the Year award a number of times
because he's that dominant of a defensive player. Um. But yeah,
as far as m VP goes, I mean, it really
depends on what their team does the rest of the way.
That's that's gonna, enlarge part, determine if he's got any
shot whatsoever of this thing coming to fruition, because he'll
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he'll be Defensive Player of the Year at this pace
moving forward. But it's not gonna matter for the m
v P because we all know the MVP is gonna
go to someone who's on a winning team. We don't
give that award out in the NFL to just anyone.
It has to be someone who's obviously playing at a high,
high level, but has to be on a winning team.
And right now, the Pittsburgh steel Is i themselves in
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the thick of it, and they've got to paddle their
way through the rest of the season I think in
order to have a shot at win the af C
North and then potentially doing something to playoffs. Even this
is a regular season awards, So if the really the
biggest focuses should be on Big Ben. If he wants
to help t J. Wat win the m v P,
he's gonna start playing, but they're gonna start winning some
football games. Like That's that's kind of the the you know,
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honest to god truth moving forward is it's gonna take
Big Ben playing at his m v P level in
order to help t J. Watt even have a shot
at winning the m v P. Right now, as far
as the m v P goes. In the NFL, Tom
Brady is the overwhelming favor right now plus one seventy five.
That means if you bet a hundred dollars, you want
a hundred and seventy five. But LaVar and I know
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that you don't know that, Brady. That's how the Betty
gambling stuff works. So that's how that works. I never
knew you never knew this stuff there. I just I
like the plus sign, so I was always like plus sign.
That must have been something good. Some huns. I think
you actually mixed them up. I think you meant to Brady.
That's say LaVar didn't know because I said it looks
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like hieroglyphics when I'm looking at those well, the best.
The best is when people who are really into gambling.
They'll start the message you because they'll be like when when,
for example, you see it's plus one seventy five, like, oh,
you know, it's plus a dollar and seventy five cents,
and then they start breaking down the math to make
it even, like and you're going to wait, wait a second,
one seventy five is equal to a dollar and seventy
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five Like, yes it is, but it's just breaking it
down meeting you're betting a dollar as opposed to So
if I give you these lists of names, stop me
when we get two guys that seriously have no chance
at all, that aren't even that shouldn't even be considered.
Tom Bradys, thank you very much. I appreciate it. There
he is, folks. There is the face of Big newon Kickoff,
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always supporting his good buddy over there. We're done five
five years the place? Did you on a snock show, LaVar?
I've noticed that you do to Seve for radio shows,
none of which need your name on it, but apparently
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name on it. Well, you know, I'm glad he gets
to do his shameless plugs and you don't. They say,
Knock City is a place, yeah right, throw up the X.
But here's all right, So so here the the order
of m v P odds right now in the NFL,
Tom Brady overwhelming favorite, then Aaron Rodgers six to one,
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Josh Allen eight to one, tied with Kyler Murray. Then
we get to Patrick Mahomes, then Matt Stafford, then Jonathan Taylor,
and then we've got Dak Prescott on and on and on.
It feels like this is Brady's to lose, like if
he just if he just continues on and he can
throw a couple more picks and and it's fine. It
feels like because I've gotten missed time Josh Allen's you know,
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uh performance kind of being uh underwhelming, and especially on
a grand stage like it was on Monday Night. This
feels like Tom Brady's gonna run away with this. Brady
feel at his age, what he I can't say that
enough and I didn't know that, like no one wants
to hear about it, like it's the m v P.
There's other guys who are younger playing they should be
they should be, you know, people should be appreciative of it.
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But at forty four, him leading the league in yards,
him leading the league in touchdown passes, Like, that's what's remarketable.
It's like at forty four and I know, like you know,
we shouldn't maybe let that weigh in on it, but
I do. I mean, I don't have a vote. If
I did, though, I would be voting for him hands down.
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If he continues on at this pace, They're one of
the best teams in the NFL. He's playing at this
high of a level, probably next to Aaron Rodgers at
the quarterback position. Um, you know, Rogers missed some games though,
so statistically it's gonna be hard for him to catch
back up. I just I look at it and I'm
in all of it. And by the way they've dealt
with injuries or I guess some some pieces missing at times, right,
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Gronk has been missing for some time, and Tonio Brown
had a chef outing him, uh for a fake Bax card,
so that was an issue still an issue. I guess
the White suspension. I mean, they've been missing some pieces too,
and he's still being able to find production. So it
surely has been remarkable. If everything stays the same, it's
it's got to be Tom Brady. I mean, you, I
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think you have to take every factor in into play, right,
He's he's doing things that are historical. So I mean,
we didn't even see Joe Montana play at this level
when he went to Kansas City. So and I mean,
to me, that's that's the next guy. I mean, he
was the guy. Nobody ever thought Joe Montana would ever
be clipsed by any other players in terms of how
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he won. But I mean, Tom Brady has done it
and he's still continuing to do it. I mean, I'll
tell you what's even more interesting looking at him having
a And I know this is is probably petty and
it's kind of whack, but you just gotta think about
it because it's kind of you know, it just kind
of works out that way. If Tom Brady were to
miss making it to the Super Bowl or not playing
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in the Super Bowl this year, but his his his
consolation prize was he won m VP of the League.
But but some ways, somehow, New England made it to
the Super Bowl. And let's just say for the sake
of saying, in the weirdest way, where you would think
that man who could ever outdo Tom Brady And then
Mac Jones gets off to a start, or where he
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wins the Super Bowl a year before Tom Brady would
have won his Super Bowl in his pro career. You
still gotta look at you still gotta look at New England,
be like, well, Tom didn't win the Super Bowl, but
he did win best player in the league. It's the
comparisons are always going to be there. The crazy part
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is how you've as of right now, we've got New
England in Tampa. It feels like headed on a collision
course for a Super Bowl in l A. The greatest
storyline of all time. I don't know that we would
see as good of a storyline going into the biggest
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game in sports. Then that what's close? What what even
comes close? I don't know. I don't even care to
even go into that conversation. I just think the fact
that you could get Bill Belichick, who after a year
would be able to build up the New England Patriots team.
That's now you have to look at him and respect
him for what they've done now seventh straight in the
position they're in the a f C. I mean, Bill
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Belichick's is up there smiling sin Yep, we're back man.
Here we are a kid, you thought you were gonna
win back to back at Tampa. I'm gonna have to
get through us first. I just I think that is
gonna be if it happens. If it happens, and I'm
like keeping my fingers cross, dude, because that would be
the greatest, greatest storyline of all time if Tampa Bay
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was scoring off versus New England in the Super I
know they're not the biggest markets. I'm sure all that
l a people out there with the rams to be
there because they were the hot sexy pick or Patrick
Mahome was the Chiefs because how dazzling they are. That's
not the storyline, though, that ticket Tampa Bay vers New England,
if it could happen, If it happens, I don't know
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that you'll find a ticket for what less than five grand,
like even those bleeds wherever you want to put it
in so far, I mean, it might be the most
expensive ticket we've ever seen, and and I would I
mean most I don't know what the most watched Super
Bowl is, but I would venture to guess just with
the storyline, the big time names involved the fact that
you've got Brady and Belichick and people know those names
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and the way it's all played out, and as much
as we made a big, big enough deal about those
guys even being a part of you know, Tom Brady
going to Tampa Bay, what's Belichick going to do without him?
I mean, that's that writes itself. You you legitimately need
two weeks to cover that game. Like most other games,
you don't really need two weeks to cover them. They
have the week off in between and then we get
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ready for super Bowl Week and radio row and all
that garbage. But the two weeks in between, there's gonna
be a storyline every single you know. The interesting thing
is it would be probably the first time in the
history of the Gang that it would feel like a
boxing match. Like going leading up to the game, you
could actually position the coverage of this to be as
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big a hype machine as it is when the boxers
have to go on the road and do their media
tours to hype it, like like that Tyson fury Um Wilder. Yeah,
the Deonte Wilder fight. You know, it's probably especially the
second one more so than anyone else. The second one
and the third one was pretty good, but the second one,
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that build up was crazy. But the equipment he brought
to the ring was heavy. That's why he lost. It
was way too heavy for him. I mean, he wasn't ready,
you know, um, you know, in terms of his conditioning.
But but here the point I'm making is the square
off and the matchup. I mean, you would have to
say it would hit EP proportions in a in a
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manner that we've never seen if that were to truly
happen for them to match up in the Super bowlvar
you brought up. So when Joe Montana left, that was
obviously a big time name because he was, you know,
considered the greatest of all time at that time with
all the Super Bowl success. So when he left and
he went to Kansas City, he was thirty seven years old.
Since Tom Brady has turned thirty seven, he's won four
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Super Bowls. So just think about that. Montana's entire career
was built on Super Bowls four and Super Bowls. Brady
has been to five and won four since the age
Montana was when he went to Kansas City. Like, when
this is never gonna be seen again, We're never going
to see this. Avocado ice cream, man, Avocado ice cream.
It's all I've got to save in tequila and nobody
can't find either. One looked for both. I can't find
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tequila or the ice cream. He does Brady have about tequila?
Does Brady does on tequila? It seems like I've looked
for avocado to ela and I've looked for avocado ice
cream and I can't find it. I don't think they
distill avocado. Is he making avocado tequila? Uh? Somebody brought
it up to me the other day and I've been
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looking for Maybe they played a cruel joke on LaVar Yea,
you ever had a Hallepeno tequila? Yeah? So I know
you have it. So why you're talking about it? First
of all? What you do? I have that? It was
a long time ago. But I had a Hallepeeno tequila
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long time ago. I'm worried about it. Don't you worry
about me. I'm cultured here, homeboy, all right, don't you
worry about me. I just finished Narcos Mexico Season three
last night. I say yeah. Be sure to catch live
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Petros Papadakis the co host of the Petros and Money
Show on the Blowtorch and five seventy l A Sports.
He is also a Fox College Football analysts The Old
p is with us here on FS. Petros, what's happening?
How we feel good? Morning? Everybody? Hello? Hello? Hello? Oh wait,
your way too? Somber? What's up? By my buddy? It's
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early meets up with that. When you set the bar high,
you gotta keep with the standard, my friend, you can't
come in, but you can't come in, so you gotta
come in hot. What's come all? Pop? I need it?
You know what we need doing cleans today? You know
we need we need the marching band and we need that.
Lincoln Riley introductory press conference set up with Petro's here?
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What's up? You want to apologize to Lindsay Buckingham? We
didn't get to him again, Pets from the skit? Petros,
what what was going on with that? You got the
lead singer to imagine dragon so I do not actually,
but imagine me dragging these balls on you. I'm just
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I woke up for a track posterized Petros. I woke
up for I'm gonna drag my balls? Yes, uh, Petros?
And what do you what do you make of the
the first week or so of Lincoln Riley's time with us?
Are things going? You know, he's coming on the show today,
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and like they was, well, that's the thing. They were like,
he wants to come on, and I was like, I
hadn't he done enough? Like he's been on every other show.
It's okay, Like I'm pretty sure the message is out.
You guys are good and They're like, no, no, no,
he really wants to come on. And I was like, okay,
I mean, I guess his head is really spinning and
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he's just been on a lot of the recruiting visits
and things like that. I wish my alma mater was
a little bit better and taking a w I think
that some people's school knows how to celebrate themselves a
little bit better than USC at this point. But I
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don't I don't think that's going to affect, you know,
what they do on the field. But yeah, it's it's
kind of embarrassing for us executive types at least seeing
fake a southern California accent. You know that that's good.
That's a step above the new LSU head coach. The
funniest thing that happened to me this week was somebody
sent meing like a bunch of Twitter screen grabs of
Matt Leiner actively you know, recruiting for USC on Twitter
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and Hey, modern day, let's get this guy. Let's get
this guy one more signing this and that. And somebody
sent me a text like, hey, is this kind of weird?
Like this guy's in the media. And then somebody sent
me a text of Brady introducing the new Notre Dame coach.
And I guess it's like it's all fair, it's all
it doesn't remember actively recruiting to a kid that's committed
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to Notre Dame. I thought it was. I thought it
was a great, a great thing that you did, Brady,
and and no one there's very few people and I'm
not even kidding. I mean there's very few people in
our business that would be equipped and able and asked
to do that introduce a new head coach. It was
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very simple. They handed me a script and I asked
to make a few changes in this said that's not
how this works. You get up there, you say as
little as possible, don't f this up. And I was like, okay,
thank you, thank you. And somebody should have said that
right to Mike Bone and Carol Hold, who's real quick? Yeah?
Who is my phone? Who's that Mike Bone? You know
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who Mike? I don't. Doesn't he have another name? The
old Yeah? The US. You think you think I got
an issue with Bone, I really don't. Joel Klatton, Bone
have a real bone to pick because of the Colorado
Davis is he excited though about this Linkoln Riley Higher,
Joel No, No, Mike, Mike Bones, you guys don't even know.
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You guys don't even know. You're seriously guys, you guys
are we gonna have phone with this? Can we go
back to the press conference in all seriousness because there's
probably a lot of people who didn't get to see it.
This isn't great, Higher, poor USC looking out of their
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own way of celebrating. Is that was that this introductory
press conference? Is that what that was? No, that was
like their USC insider show or something, and they decided
to put it online, it seemed, and then they got
a little bit of the band there. So USC breaks
up the band all the time and sends them to
funerals and weddings and all kinds of different stuff, and
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they play and I think it's a nominal fee that
you pay the university, and a little piece of the
band and like three song girls show up. So that
was basically like the funeral package, a modest funeral package
of the USC Spirit of Troy marching band that was playing,
and it was just poorly logistically planned. I guess Mike
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Bone said that, Uh, I mean Suet Craven's is walking
up around there like he's just wandering about the blitz. Uh,
Sean Cody standing up there can confuse. They have like
the world's biggest donkey d played by play type of
guy or I mean he is a donkey d standing
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up there like, and then they have then they have
Mike Bone goes right all the time for the World's
Greatest Fight song, and then forty seconds go by and
the band is just standing there. And then finally they
strike up the band and they don't even play the
fight song. They play the Fleetwood Max song Tusk Mac
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you Got a Lovely wood Man. Yeah, well that's a
famous USC song. They play it all the time, but
it's not the fight song. And then Blake and Riley
walked up the stairs and then he walked back down
and then there was like an open mic and somebody
was like, we're just gonna play the song interview and
it was just, uh, it was it was very apropos
to what USC has been over the years. And I
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said it was going to be very difficult for them
to take this w with dignity the hiring of Lincoln Riley,
and they haven't. But it doesn't seem to matter. I mean,
the kids the recruits are flocking, but still what's most important.
You know, the funniest thing is, you know, USC is
talking about all these recruits, and there's all these pictures
of Lincoln Riley and all of these different home visits,
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and it seems like, you know, one day he's in
the Valley, one day he's in Orange County, one day
he's in San Diego, and he's all over the place
in southern California. And then Jim Harbaugh pops up at
a serviye kid's house, who's a two way offensive lineman
with like three staff members. They're all smiling, and you
know he's going to mission against like, fix your offensive line. USC.
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Stop taking pictures with cornerbacks and receivers, fix your freaking fronts,
fix your culture. I'm sure they're doing that, but that's you.
That's that's l A culture, though, is skill guys, quarterbacks
and skill guys right when we were good. I mean
those guys, those guys news. Yeah, I mean, those guys
make news. But I mean, let's talk about the history
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of USC offensive lineman. I mean, we can go back
and they're all from here this area. Guys like dom
Mose Bar and freaking Anthony Munio is the greatest tackle
of all time for Colorado. Tony BASSELLI, uh, you know
these guys man ever declee me? He was, Oh did
he You can't do You can't even get started with him.
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And he I'm a big man, He's he's a he's
a ginormous man. I saw him grab a dude from
Baylor like some d n's throat and run him from
the fifteen to the goal post and just choke him
on the goalpost like Steven Seagal movie. You know, you
know he got me. He got me on a reverse
and I almost feel like he told them to call
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that play just so he could get me, my rookie
year old be mole block block in man online. There
you go. He turned around, he turned it around, and
he knew I was gonna He knew I was gonna
squeeze down. He knew I was gonna see it, and
he was staying ending right out my turnaround point. And
and then I knew it was personal. I didn't know why,
but but he stood over me and he looked at me,
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and you know, he's got a pretty when he was
playing at it like a super intimidating face like, you know,
he looked over me and I I gotta admit, like,
I've never found myself in an intimidating feeling before, but
I was intimidating. I was intimidating. Yeah, yeah, I wassi.
By the way, No, I'm glad you did it. I mean,
I remember Maurice Jones Drew blowing up. Yeah, he got
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a man. Lights. You know, it was very therapeutic for
me to to disclose that to you guys, well LaVar,
you know, inside the box, everybody gets got, you know,
it's not like a cornerback having to admit that he
got burned on a Dino route. You know, it's like
those guys are weenie's. They don't know how to get
got on every other play, you know what I mean.
They don't understand your pride gets taken by dude like
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Maurice Drew. It looks like a fire hydrant coming through
the a gap blows up. Poor lights out. He got
a man, didn't He's like rock sock'm robots. But with us,
they've always done a great job with the offensive line.
Even in the modern era. The I mean, it's just
guys like Sam Baker and the Khalil brothers. I mean,
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they just need to pay attention to that side of it.
I know they're not pretty in the living room, that
those type of pictures. Nobody likes a fat white kid
from Orange County, but we gotta dig them out. When
did that change happen? When did they go from not
focusing on the old line and just looking to grab
they run an air raid? Okay? So when when who
was responsible for that change? Was it after Pete Carroll left? Yeah,
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after Pete Carroll left? Uh well, Pete Carroll pushed out
the best offensive line coach. They had a guy named
Tim Davis, who was the guy that stood up there
and called Urban Meyer the devil. Remember that. He was
like remember he was like he was talking to some
booster group. You know, it was right when the cell
phone video started getting everybody, and he said something like,
you know, I've been I've coached of Florida for Satan himself.
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How would now if if Norm Chow was placing blame
on the No, I'm just asking, how would it sound like? Bone?
What am I doing? Jimmy Stewart, It's like one would
have said it, How would it sound? What happened was
this when they got rid of Tim Davis and hired
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all play colors. They lost the spirit of the front.
Do you know who I blame Big Carolum himself? That
was Tim David. I would just spelled the fire and
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Primstone coach for Satan and Urban Meyer of course had
some statement, I'm very disappointed if there's garden the language.
I just let a guy shoot a dude in the face.
But I am very okay, I'm not following that up.
Really didn't let a guys shoot a dude in the face. Like,
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no one talks about that anyway. What happened? Maybe he'll
come to Oregon, Petros, What do you make of the
speculation that maybe Chip Kelly might be a guy that
would replace Mario Christobal in Oregon? Old Chip going back
to Eugene, What do you think it's real? Uh? Well,
first of all, you know, you guys all know who
Phil Knight is. And he's still alive and he can
still dial a phone with his arthritic fingers. So jesus,
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what everybody's getting Hey, you guys wound him up. Everybody's
getting it this morning, Petrols. Everybody could get it. Come on.
Uh so he's gonna call you know, the ghost of
Joe Paterno. I mean he's gonna call everybody who would
answer the phone and say no first, because they'll answer
the phone for Phil Knight. He can get anybody in
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the world to pick up the phone another chance. Yeah,
I mean, so he can get urvan Meyer too soon?
Is it too soon? Pop? Well? What did he say
it too sou? I don't know. I mean we got
to call them up, Phil with you said Joe called
the ghost to Joe? Well, you know, I mean he'll try,
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you know, like he'll try again. Joe needs another go
at it, so so he could kind of, you know,
clean some things up. I wouldn't mind seeing that, you know.
And no one could run into him on the sideline
because he's a ghost. You know, he couldn't break his leg.
You could go right through him. I was it went
over a lot of people's heads, I'm sure, you know.
But yeah, like yes, they would not hurt his leg
at this point, God him, Hey would not have to
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sit in the press box and that you're right or
the hue Frieze chair of shame, very very cold, very
cold here. But they're gonna call everybody and then they're
gonna and and all those people are gonna say no,
like Chris Peterson and stuff, and then they're gonna call
Chip or Justin Wilcox and it's gonna be one of
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those guys, I think. And you just have to ask yourself,
how much does Chip like l A? How much does
Chip like what he built in l A. They built
the building for him. It's all to his design. He's
got a big food budget to right, He's got all
kinds of stuff, you know, he's got it's basically been
customized for him because he got the job and they
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invested in the program. At the same time. Of course,
his ability to staff has been called into question. But
he's now got a good quarterback waiting in the wings.
He has a lot of stuff going over there. He's
developed a lot of players, put guys in the NFL,
and you know, he's improved a great deal. They've done
a good job there. A lot of people don't want
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to admit it, But is he great with that? Does
he like living in Westwood? Does he did he like Oregon?
They'll obviously it's a really good fit with all the
progressive innovation that he did there and and Oregan's football
identity in that way. That's a really good marriage. And
he is married now, and I guess the wife really
likes Oregon. But if anybody knows what's inside Chip's head,
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then that's that's somebody that's pretty pretty remarkable, because I
don't know, I mean, it's anybody's guests, but I think
they're going to have a real conversation and then we'll
figure it out. Is there a tactful way of being
able to make that jump from a pack twelve team
to a packed twelve team, or or just even watching
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all these moving parts of these head coaches and your mind,
is there a tactful way of doing it? No? Not
when there's life changing riches, generational riches on the line.
At this point, I mean, these guys are getting nine
million dollars a year, eight million dollars a year, a gigantic,
just unbelievable boon for somebody who was a g a
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or running around with a whistle swinging around their neck
getting yelled at by you know, some guy like I
don't know, Poward Schnellenberger, know. I mean, then these guys
are hitting the jackpots, so it's really hard to blame them,
uh for what for what's happening. And it's really the
early sighting day that's caused a lot of this commotion.
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But I think most of us, I don't know, LaVar,
if you think this like most of us, I think
would be willing to deal with a couple of weeks
of bad press for a hundred million dollars. I mean
that the press always goes away and and in the
end they will come back and be like he did
get a hundred million dollars. Let me ask you this, Pops,
why not consider internally, like if you have somebody who
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has the the resume, the background, the chops, so to speak,
to be able to recruit against the top recruiters. A
name that comes to mind for me, and I mean
maybe it's because I know him um as my teammate,
but what a dope dude and a dope coach and
Joe Salavea. Why would he not coming as a why
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would he not come up as a name for Oregon?
I mean, he's that type of a guy that could leave.
He's got enough, you know, years in under his belt
for you to say he's he you know, he understands it,
he understands the structure. He definitely could recruit and wouldn't
lose in a lot of certain demographics, as you could imagine,
why not why not consider Salida? I don't know. I
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mean it's interesting because you you wouldn't want another guy
to use Oregon as a stepping stone. And I'm not
saying Joe would do that. He probably wouldn't. That's kind
of the thing because once they got rid of and
that's been the knock on chip, Once they got rid
of the staff that was Mike Ballotti, kind of Rich
Brooks is the Galliote, guys like that that had been
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at Oregon for decades and decades. Once they got rid
of those guys and fired Mark Helfritch, it became a
stepping stone job. If for Willie, it became now even
for Mario Cristo Ball. And it was never a recruiting
job before Willie and Mario Cristo Ball. It was always
a developmental kind of thing. Now they've become a place
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where we recruit the best players and we this and that.
That's not really what got them into that title game
in the BCS against Auburn and all the success over
the years. They had some big recruits, but guys like
La Michael James, Marcus Mariota. They were not national names
when they got when they showed up at Oregon, they
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were developmental and maybe they do need to go inside,
deep inside football for a guy like Joe or somebody
like that that is a little bit more dedicated to
the place, because it really felt like Cristo Ball had
a good thing going there. But it's been a stepping
stone ever since they got rid of their their culture
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through Mike Bellotti and Rich Brooks, and bringing Chip back
would be a little bit of doing that again, especially
if he brought some of those old names back, like
our friend Mark Helfridge, who I hope keeps calling games.
I liked him at Fox Petro's Papacis. He is the
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on Twitter at the old p Petros. This is another
fun one. These are my machine work. Okay, that's fantastic. Great.
What's up with that, Chris? What's up? Yeah? What's up
with that? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, man, imagine dragons. Yeah, give
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him that good running man right now to aments come on,
we'll do it again next week. That there it is,
fight on it. Listen. You guys repped him up. You
told him, come on, we need more out of you
and we need next. You know, he's taking shots at
de Phil Knight and uh we got a Joe paternal reference.
(46:57):
Oh yeah, everybody got it. Guys getting shot in the face.
Everybody got it. There all right, hell stones and good.
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Joe with LaVar Arrington, Rady Quinn, and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, I don't know if you happen. Yeah,
it's it's a Wednesday. And you know what that means,
LaVar Well, you know, I know it was Wednesday. You
knew I was gonna do it. At some point in time.
(00:22):
I was going to do it. Bertie Bery by very
very very Joonda Joda, Joda Jodas. You knew I was
gonna do with Berto Berto Berto Lele. You know what
it is. Damn right, it is. Let's go, Let's go,
let's go. Come on, all right, Can I start with
a little bit of a conspiracy thought? I don't know, man,
let me just go, yeah, we get this. Well, Rex Ryan,
(00:47):
I'll just say this. It doesn't involve Rex Ryan. But
I guarantee Rex Ryan is paying very close attention to
this story and he has been for several weeks. So
um Aaron Rodgers updated you know the media, uh a K.
Pat McAfee and Brady's brother in law A J. Hawk,
because those are the only people he does an interview with.
And I don't blame him, to be honest with you,
(01:08):
and he just tried to you know, gave everybody an
update on his situation with his toe, and um, you
know it's hey, he's not gonna you know, no chance
to have surgery, not gonna miss any time. Uh you know,
needs fourteen to twenty one days to heal. But that's
not gonna happen. So you just kinda gotta deal with
it and move forward. And you know, Dr David Chow
was with us last week and he talked about and
(01:30):
kind of gave the impression that well, I mean it's
you know, it's it's a toe injury. But it's I mean,
to me, it seems pretty cut and dry. He's not
probably gonna miss any time, not that big of a deal, etcetera, etcetera.
So why is this thing still going on? Why do
we have a constant update on Aaron rodgers toe. Here's
my conspiracy theory. Whoa it depends. I mean, this is
(01:54):
this is all uh, you know, just kind of you know,
working here in the morning. I here, here we go.
Here's my conspiracy. I think Aaron Rodgers is jerking everybody around.
I think this is the holiday season through the holiday
season stocking stuffer or not, Aaron Rodgers is looking around
going since you, since you guys cared so much about
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my health and about my safety, let me go ahead
and play this game with you. Let me lead you
down the path of a toe injury, an insignificant toe injury,
not even a turf toe, for my understanding. I heard
it was a pinky toe. But let me go ahead
and take you down this road, and we'll see how
obsessed you are with my body, my well being, my health, etcetera, etcetera,
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And let me jerk you right into the holidays with
a little toe injury. Shout out to Rex Ryan. How's
that for a little conspiracy talked about stuff? I mean
it was, you know, a toe stuffern aren't stockings for toes?
(03:01):
I mean, in theory you're supposed to put your toe
inside of the stocking. So I mean, God forbid, we
don't take the literal meaning of what Aaron Rodgers is
doing to us during the holiday season. He's a stocking stuffer. Um, okay,
let me just say this. Didn't didn't they say fraction
(03:23):
as sessamoid bone didn't didn't We talked about that like
I've done that it's uh, it is painful for a
period of time. It does have to be surgically fixed
at some point. I mean you can live and move
around without it. I haven't gotten mind fixed yet, but
it's um, it's not gonna get really much better, I
would say. I mean, maybe the the pain tolerance does,
or he just adjust, But I don't know why. I
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think he draws attention to it or there's updates about
it because he's Aaron Rodgers. He's he's potentially gonna be
the league m v P. I don't know if he
could or not. Maybe it helps distract away from the
COVID stuff, right if you start to continually focus on
his status to play, Like like, I don't know about you,
(04:06):
but with every toe update, I kind of forget that
the whole vaccination immunication thing even happened, And I'm like, oh, well,
is he gonna play this week or not? Like what's
happening just picking out their body part each week and
it's almost like, don't look over here, look this way,
look this way. You know. It's like like a magic trick.
And I gotta be honest with you, I'm following for it,
(04:29):
like I'm looking I'm like, wait, I'm like, what is
this toe gonna be? Okay? Like is he can he play?
You know, like like what should have been on this game?
I get, I get what's happening here. It is your
classic uh kind of distraction technique where you just try
to get people to look and focus on something else
and then and then all of a sudden, like we've
(04:49):
got the memory of Goldfish, now we just forget what
was happening like forty seconds ago, and and then we
just focus on what's in front of us. So maybe
that's more of the tactic. I don't know. I I
think that he's keeping people updated because, like everybody said,
you know, you are interested in what you know Aaron
Rodgers has going on. He's probably one of the most
(05:10):
polarizing figures. I'm not giving a conspiracy theory at this point,
so you know, it is what it is. But you know,
I do I do believe that the idea of Aaron
Rodgers giving his health and medical um rundown on on
a I guess an outlet that isn't connected to going
through the team. That's interesting, you know, And I think
(05:34):
that can we turn the music off? Please? Please, God, Please,
make it go away. It's so it's okay. It's okay
because I think the conspiracy theory is already out there,
so we don't we don't have to keep it going.
That Does that send shivers up your spine? The No,
because I'm not doing the I'm not doing a conspiracy thing.
(05:55):
I think I'm just kind of bringing it back to
the honest. It bothers you because there were something that
they remember. You don't solve mysteries. There are some there
like update They're like you like that guy is still
out there, like he's still out there creeping around somewhere. Well,
that is true that I will say that that is true.
But in this situation, I think we kind of uh,
(06:17):
you know, am I wrong for thinking that Aaron Rodgers
is making sure by doing what he's doing that his
play is I'm in control. Like if you think about it,
you we mentioned it at the top right, He's he's
using the McAfee show. So the McAfee show is growing
in popularity and probably large land part. Uh. Nothing to
(06:41):
take away from his talent, because pat Is is one
of the best talents in the game, But I mean
he's growing his show brand by having the exclusivity of
Aaron Rodgers coming on and giving these these sound bites
that go viral every single time he comes on. So
you think about it, Aaron rod his voice goes viral.
(07:01):
It's Aaron Rodgers message as well. So he's controlling his
narrative right now through the outlet he wants to control.
And that's a further if you really, I guess, if
you delve into it a little deeper, that's kind of
you're looking at the Green Bay Packers and you're like, oh, well,
you know, players aren't supposed to discuss their health in
(07:22):
the public. That's supposed to be left up to the
medical staff or to the head coach. Good point, you know,
So I think you got to take a deeper look
and say, Aaron Rodgers, isn't you know, giving us just
a stocking stuffer in terms of what he's got going
on health wise. He's he's still continuing to to give
kind of like a passive aggressive way of saying, I'm
(07:44):
in control of what's going on with my career here
in Green Bay? Couldn't you just do that though? With
social medias there? You know, he Robertic we hit that again.
Maybe it was erroll conspiracy to your point though, like
he could just do with his own social media. And
(08:06):
I think one of the things that you're able to
do when you go on a show where you trust
the people you're on there, obviously with Pat McAfee and
a j is you know, they can help you with
that narrative, right, Like they can ask you the questions
so you don't have to stay that yourself to get
you to the points you want to get to or um,
you know you can you can kind of jokingly talk
(08:28):
about it if you just tweet something out or send
out a video, it kind of comes off as it
is what it is, you know, like people are gonna
necessarily look at or take it as a joke. But
you know when when you when you listen to Pat mcifee,
we listen to a j and those guys they do
a great job. They're they're hilarious. Um. I was in Indianapolis.
People were talking to me about them when we're out
there at an appearance. But the truth is it kind
(08:50):
of helps you take off some of the burden on
your shoulders to get that message out there in whatever
way you want, right And I think maybe that's a
little bit of a part of it too, where players
can control their own narrative now, but they have to
they have to receive the brunt of it. And that's
the hard part. If if it was as serious, or
if it was really a serious injury or something we
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should be really concerned about, like to the VRS point,
he wouldn't be saying a word about it. Yeah, But
I think that's the brain teaser of it all because
if it were serious, or at the point in time
it could have been serious. If you think about it,
I mean, would he have done Now you got to
take your mind to think it. Would he have done
things the same exact way, not he wouldn't have done it,
or he couldn't have done it. Would he have done it?
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Would he have would he have put it on the line,
or would he have uh, disobeyed to fight the rules
of how things are handled? If this were more serious,
you know, And I think that that's what for me,
that's what I'm left thinking. It's like, huh, if it
was more serious, is this is this still the same
power play? You know? Because I mean in the end,
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if it's more serious, he wouldn't have been playing, so
that then it's an obvious answer and then he can
give his explanation. But I still think that is just
one of those things where I don't look at it as,
you know, anything else outside of or other than Aaron
Rodgers is showing his his dominance as Aaron Rodgers by
the way he's handling the media this year, by giving
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the exclusivity of what he's saying and what he's doing
to to Pat McAfee and a J. Hawk. And he's
been a very mysterious guy, very aloof a lot of
people couldn't get to know him, and now there's a
lot of people that don't like him, a lot of
people out there that's very similar to you. I mean,
you're pretty mysterious. That's a good point, you know. I'm
glad you brought that up. That's that is a good point.
As mysterious as Finley though. I mean Bryan Finley. I
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saw him when I was walking out yesterday and I
looked at Berto and Lee and I was like, dang,
that's that's yeah, that's how hey, can you guys want
me out? I had to do. I had to do
Bowl game previews yesterday all right, which I was I
rate about because something like we did a bowl game
preview that's I'm month away, Like, no, lie, there's a
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bowl game that's being played on January four, okay, and
we're doing a preview on December seven, Like it is.
It makes no sense. It's absolutely assinine, And so I'm
ticked off about it because of a few things. One,
we're trying to give out betting advice, Like there could
be a coaching staff changes, there could be kids who
aren't even playing in this game. I'm like, why are
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we doing this right now? This can't be actually good
betting advice too. It's my own accountability, like integrity that's
on the line. People could be like, well that Jerko
told me to bet on this thing. I'm like, yeah, dude,
we filmed that four weeks ago. I didn't know the
entire team was gonna be out sick with COVID or something.
So it's the worst thing ever. But I was remember
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I remember Brian Finley because one of the bull Bag
game previews we're talking about Oregon State, and as I
was talking about PC Baylor and the Beeves, I was like, oh,
Finley would be proud. We're actually talking about a pat
twelve team right now. His organ state beavers. He loves
those bea he does, so I was giving them a
little bit of love that. I was like, yeah, but
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I'm not picking to cover the spread on this man.
You need any intel on the beaver, you just go
straight over to Brian Finley. He loves the bees man,
He's down with the bees. Yeah, damn right. And plus
Petros papa Ak is going to join us later on.
He'll be you know, he's been. He's called some Beeves
games before as well too. So I've got to ask
petro Us about whatever the hell that was at USC
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with Mike Riley. There was a unbelievable mash up video
that's made its way around that was like a splicer
kudup video between SNL and I guess the press conference
for I don't know if that was that as press conference?
Is that what that was? I think? So, yeah, it
was very bizarre. What's up with that? The whole thing
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is uncomfortable, like, and he seems uncomfortable at times having
to having to go through all this crap. So his
best impression is might be the mic bone impression because
I I I actually jumped down that wormhole where I
was like all right, How accurate is it? He does it?
His norm child is fantastic, but he does a tremendous
owner Mike Ana. Yeah, be sure to catch live editions
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of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LaVar Errington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am
easting three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. You guys, remember when Ben Roethlisberger
took a pay cut to get t J. Watt paid. Yeah? Yeah,
that was a big time and so you know, I mean,
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he can't he can't help himself, big Ben. Uh. He
is also now lobbying for t J. Watt to be
the m v P of the NFL. Here he was yesterday.
He should be recognized more than just a deep I mean,
I don't know who else is the defensive player of
the other than that guy. I'm sure there's other candisa.
I just don't know. But he should absolutely get VP
m VP votes as well, because that's what kind of
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player he is. Yeah. So, so I don't know who
else is out there, so I can't I can't uh
compare in contrast what TJ is doing versus everyone else.
But he should be considered the best. Yeah, I forget
all those other guys. I mean, I will say that
he is leading the league in sacks, and I mean
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he has missed games and and I think there's something
to be said about t J. Watt's production. Um, you know,
and and we've looked at Miles Garrett as being you know,
at least a lot of people have said it. I
mean I felt it. He you know, Myles Garrett has
been looked at largely in part this year as probably
the guy you would be looking at being the defensive
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player of the year. But he's actually second to t J. Watt. Okay,
So I would say, while I think Ben's reasoning is
a little bit flimsy, he makes a valid point. Yeah.
I mean, listen, very good year. And the only reason
he's here is because Ben took that pay cut. Well,
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and then the reason why he when m VPS because
Been took that pig. Yes, no, I mean he's look,
he's leaving league in sacks. He is no doubt one
of the best players in the league. Like this is
kind of your Aaron Donald conversation. I think you could
make a case every year that Aaron Donald could win
the m v P because he's that good, he's that
dominant of a defensive player. Statistically speaking, he's won the
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Defensive Player of the Year award a number of times
because he's that dominant of a defensive player. Um. But yeah,
as far as m VP goes, I mean, it really
depends on what their team does the rest of the way.
That's that's gonna, enlarge part, determine if he's got any
shot whatsoever of this thing coming to fruition, because he'll
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he'll be Defensive Player of the Year at this pace
moving forward. But it's not gonna matter for the m
v P because we all know the MVP is gonna
go to someone who's on a winning team. We don't
give that award out in the NFL to just anyone.
It has to be someone who's obviously playing at a high,
high level, but has to be on a winning team.
And right now, the Pittsburgh steel Is i themselves in
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the thick of it, and they've got to paddle their
way through the rest of the season I think in
order to have a shot at win the af C
North and then potentially doing something to playoffs. Even this
is a regular season awards, So if the really the
biggest focuses should be on Big Ben. If he wants
to help t J. Wat win the m v P,
he's gonna start playing, but they're gonna start winning some
football games. Like That's that's kind of the the you know,
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honest to god truth moving forward is it's gonna take
Big Ben playing at his m v P level in
order to help t J. Watt even have a shot
at winning the m v P. Right now, as far
as the m v P goes. In the NFL, Tom
Brady is the overwhelming favor right now plus one seventy five.
That means if you bet a hundred dollars, you want
a hundred and seventy five. But LaVar and I know
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that you don't know that, Brady. That's how the Betty
gambling stuff works. So that's how that works. I never
knew you never knew this stuff there. I just I
like the plus sign, so I was always like plus sign.
That must have been something good. Some huns. I think
you actually mixed them up. I think you meant to Brady.
That's say LaVar didn't know because I said it looks
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like hieroglyphics when I'm looking at those well, the best.
The best is when people who are really into gambling.
They'll start the message you because they'll be like when when,
for example, you see it's plus one seventy five, like, oh,
you know, it's plus a dollar and seventy five cents,
and then they start breaking down the math to make
it even, like and you're going to wait, wait a second,
one seventy five is equal to a dollar and seventy
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five Like, yes it is, but it's just breaking it
down meeting you're betting a dollar as opposed to So
if I give you these lists of names, stop me
when we get two guys that seriously have no chance
at all, that aren't even that shouldn't even be considered.
Tom Bradys, thank you very much. I appreciate it. There
he is, folks. There is the face of Big newon Kickoff,
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always supporting his good buddy over there. We're done five
five years the place? Did you on a snock show, LaVar?
I've noticed that you do to Seve for radio shows,
none of which need your name on it, but apparently
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name on it. Well, you know, I'm glad he gets
to do his shameless plugs and you don't. They say,
Knock City is a place, yeah right, throw up the X.
But here's all right, So so here the the order
of m v P odds right now in the NFL,
Tom Brady overwhelming favorite, then Aaron Rodgers six to one,
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Josh Allen eight to one, tied with Kyler Murray. Then
we get to Patrick Mahomes, then Matt Stafford, then Jonathan Taylor,
and then we've got Dak Prescott on and on and on.
It feels like this is Brady's to lose, like if
he just if he just continues on and he can
throw a couple more picks and and it's fine. It
feels like because I've gotten missed time Josh Allen's you know,
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uh performance kind of being uh underwhelming, and especially on
a grand stage like it was on Monday Night. This
feels like Tom Brady's gonna run away with this. Brady
feel at his age, what he I can't say that
enough and I didn't know that, like no one wants
to hear about it, like it's the m v P.
There's other guys who are younger playing they should be
they should be, you know, people should be appreciative of it.
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But at forty four, him leading the league in yards,
him leading the league in touchdown passes, Like, that's what's remarketable.
It's like at forty four and I know, like you know,
we shouldn't maybe let that weigh in on it, but
I do. I mean, I don't have a vote. If
I did, though, I would be voting for him hands down.
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If he continues on at this pace, They're one of
the best teams in the NFL. He's playing at this
high of a level, probably next to Aaron Rodgers at
the quarterback position. Um, you know, Rogers missed some games though,
so statistically it's gonna be hard for him to catch
back up. I just I look at it and I'm
in all of it. And by the way they've dealt
with injuries or I guess some some pieces missing at times, right,
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Gronk has been missing for some time, and Tonio Brown
had a chef outing him, uh for a fake Bax card,
so that was an issue still an issue. I guess
the White suspension. I mean, they've been missing some pieces too,
and he's still being able to find production. So it
surely has been remarkable. If everything stays the same, it's
it's got to be Tom Brady. I mean, you, I
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think you have to take every factor in into play, right,
He's he's doing things that are historical. So I mean,
we didn't even see Joe Montana play at this level
when he went to Kansas City. So and I mean,
to me, that's that's the next guy. I mean, he
was the guy. Nobody ever thought Joe Montana would ever
be clipsed by any other players in terms of how
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he won. But I mean, Tom Brady has done it
and he's still continuing to do it. I mean, I'll
tell you what's even more interesting looking at him having
a And I know this is is probably petty and
it's kind of whack, but you just gotta think about
it because it's kind of you know, it just kind
of works out that way. If Tom Brady were to
miss making it to the Super Bowl or not playing
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in the Super Bowl this year, but his his his
consolation prize was he won m VP of the League.
But but some ways, somehow, New England made it to
the Super Bowl. And let's just say for the sake
of saying, in the weirdest way, where you would think
that man who could ever outdo Tom Brady And then
Mac Jones gets off to a start, or where he
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wins the Super Bowl a year before Tom Brady would
have won his Super Bowl in his pro career. You
still gotta look at you still gotta look at New England,
be like, well, Tom didn't win the Super Bowl, but
he did win best player in the league. It's the
comparisons are always going to be there. The crazy part
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is how you've as of right now, we've got New
England in Tampa. It feels like headed on a collision
course for a Super Bowl in l A. The greatest
storyline of all time. I don't know that we would
see as good of a storyline going into the biggest
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game in sports. Then that what's close? What what even
comes close? I don't know. I don't even care to
even go into that conversation. I just think the fact
that you could get Bill Belichick, who after a year
would be able to build up the New England Patriots team.
That's now you have to look at him and respect
him for what they've done now seventh straight in the
position they're in the a f C. I mean, Bill
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Belichick's is up there smiling sin Yep, we're back man.
Here we are a kid, you thought you were gonna
win back to back at Tampa. I'm gonna have to
get through us first. I just I think that is
gonna be if it happens. If it happens, and I'm
like keeping my fingers cross, dude, because that would be
the greatest, greatest storyline of all time if Tampa Bay
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was scoring off versus New England in the Super I
know they're not the biggest markets. I'm sure all that
l a people out there with the rams to be
there because they were the hot sexy pick or Patrick
Mahome was the Chiefs because how dazzling they are. That's
not the storyline, though, that ticket Tampa Bay vers New England,
if it could happen, If it happens, I don't know
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that you'll find a ticket for what less than five grand,
like even those bleeds wherever you want to put it
in so far, I mean, it might be the most
expensive ticket we've ever seen, and and I would I
mean most I don't know what the most watched Super
Bowl is, but I would venture to guess just with
the storyline, the big time names involved the fact that
you've got Brady and Belichick and people know those names
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and the way it's all played out, and as much
as we made a big, big enough deal about those
guys even being a part of you know, Tom Brady
going to Tampa Bay, what's Belichick going to do without him?
I mean, that's that writes itself. You you legitimately need
two weeks to cover that game. Like most other games,
you don't really need two weeks to cover them. They
have the week off in between and then we get
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ready for super Bowl Week and radio row and all
that garbage. But the two weeks in between, there's gonna
be a storyline every single you know. The interesting thing
is it would be probably the first time in the
history of the Gang that it would feel like a
boxing match. Like going leading up to the game, you
could actually position the coverage of this to be as
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big a hype machine as it is when the boxers
have to go on the road and do their media
tours to hype it, like like that Tyson fury Um Wilder. Yeah,
the Deonte Wilder fight. You know, it's probably especially the
second one more so than anyone else. The second one
and the third one was pretty good, but the second one,
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that build up was crazy. But the equipment he brought
to the ring was heavy. That's why he lost. It
was way too heavy for him. I mean, he wasn't ready,
you know, um, you know, in terms of his conditioning.
But but here the point I'm making is the square
off and the matchup. I mean, you would have to
say it would hit EP proportions in a in a
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manner that we've never seen if that were to truly
happen for them to match up in the Super bowlvar
you brought up. So when Joe Montana left, that was
obviously a big time name because he was, you know,
considered the greatest of all time at that time with
all the Super Bowl success. So when he left and
he went to Kansas City, he was thirty seven years old.
Since Tom Brady has turned thirty seven, he's won four
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Super Bowls. So just think about that. Montana's entire career
was built on Super Bowls four and Super Bowls. Brady
has been to five and won four since the age
Montana was when he went to Kansas City. Like, when
this is never gonna be seen again, We're never going
to see this. Avocado ice cream, man, Avocado ice cream.
It's all I've got to save in tequila and nobody
can't find either. One looked for both. I can't find
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tequila or the ice cream. He does Brady have about tequila?
Does Brady does on tequila? It seems like I've looked
for avocado to ela and I've looked for avocado ice
cream and I can't find it. I don't think they
distill avocado. Is he making avocado tequila? Uh? Somebody brought
it up to me the other day and I've been
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looking for Maybe they played a cruel joke on LaVar Yea,
you ever had a Hallepeno tequila? Yeah? So I know
you have it. So why you're talking about it? First
of all? What you do? I have that? It was
a long time ago. But I had a Hallepeeno tequila
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long time ago. I'm worried about it. Don't you worry
about me. I'm cultured here, homeboy, all right, don't you
worry about me. I just finished Narcos Mexico Season three
last night. I say yeah. Be sure to catch live
editions of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady, Quinn, LaVar,
Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am easting
three am Pacific. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me three
(26:54):
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to announce a new podcast home Up on Game? What
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your podcast from right now talking about impressive ladies and gentlemen.
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Petros Papadakis the co host of the Petros and Money
Show on the Blowtorch and five seventy l A Sports.
He is also a Fox College Football analysts The Old
p is with us here on FS. Petros, what's happening?
How we feel good? Morning? Everybody? Hello? Hello? Hello? Oh wait,
your way too? Somber? What's up? By my buddy? It's
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early meets up with that. When you set the bar high,
you gotta keep with the standard, my friend, you can't
come in, but you can't come in, so you gotta
come in hot. What's come all? Pop? I need it?
You know what we need doing cleans today? You know
we need we need the marching band and we need that.
Lincoln Riley introductory press conference set up with Petro's here?
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What's up? You want to apologize to Lindsay Buckingham? We
didn't get to him again, Pets from the skit? Petros,
what what was going on with that? You got the
lead singer to imagine dragon so I do not actually,
but imagine me dragging these balls on you. I'm just
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I woke up for a track posterized Petros. I woke
up for I'm gonna drag my balls? Yes, uh, Petros?
And what do you what do you make of the
the first week or so of Lincoln Riley's time with us?
Are things going? You know, he's coming on the show today,
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and like they was, well, that's the thing. They were like,
he wants to come on, and I was like, I
hadn't he done enough? Like he's been on every other show.
It's okay, Like I'm pretty sure the message is out.
You guys are good and They're like, no, no, no,
he really wants to come on. And I was like, okay,
I mean, I guess his head is really spinning and
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he's just been on a lot of the recruiting visits
and things like that. I wish my alma mater was
a little bit better and taking a w I think
that some people's school knows how to celebrate themselves a
little bit better than USC at this point. But I
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don't I don't think that's going to affect, you know,
what they do on the field. But yeah, it's it's
kind of embarrassing for us executive types at least seeing
fake a southern California accent. You know that that's good.
That's a step above the new LSU head coach. The
funniest thing that happened to me this week was somebody
sent meing like a bunch of Twitter screen grabs of
Matt Leiner actively you know, recruiting for USC on Twitter
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and Hey, modern day, let's get this guy. Let's get
this guy one more signing this and that. And somebody
sent me a text like, hey, is this kind of weird?
Like this guy's in the media. And then somebody sent
me a text of Brady introducing the new Notre Dame coach.
And I guess it's like it's all fair, it's all
it doesn't remember actively recruiting to a kid that's committed
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to Notre Dame. I thought it was. I thought it
was a great, a great thing that you did, Brady,
and and no one there's very few people and I'm
not even kidding. I mean there's very few people in
our business that would be equipped and able and asked
to do that introduce a new head coach. It was
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very simple. They handed me a script and I asked
to make a few changes in this said that's not
how this works. You get up there, you say as
little as possible, don't f this up. And I was like, okay,
thank you, thank you. And somebody should have said that
right to Mike Bone and Carol Hold, who's real quick? Yeah?
Who is my phone? Who's that Mike Bone? You know
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who Mike? I don't. Doesn't he have another name? The
old Yeah? The US. You think you think I got
an issue with Bone, I really don't. Joel Klatton, Bone
have a real bone to pick because of the Colorado
Davis is he excited though about this Linkoln Riley Higher,
Joel No, No, Mike, Mike Bones, you guys don't even know.
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You guys don't even know. You're seriously guys, you guys
are we gonna have phone with this? Can we go
back to the press conference in all seriousness because there's
probably a lot of people who didn't get to see it.
This isn't great, Higher, poor USC looking out of their
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own way of celebrating. Is that was that this introductory
press conference? Is that what that was? No, that was
like their USC insider show or something, and they decided
to put it online, it seemed, and then they got
a little bit of the band there. So USC breaks
up the band all the time and sends them to
funerals and weddings and all kinds of different stuff, and
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they play and I think it's a nominal fee that
you pay the university, and a little piece of the
band and like three song girls show up. So that
was basically like the funeral package, a modest funeral package
of the USC Spirit of Troy marching band that was playing,
and it was just poorly logistically planned. I guess Mike
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Bone said that, Uh, I mean Suet Craven's is walking
up around there like he's just wandering about the blitz. Uh,
Sean Cody standing up there can confuse. They have like
the world's biggest donkey d played by play type of
guy or I mean he is a donkey d standing
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up there like, and then they have then they have
Mike Bone goes right all the time for the World's
Greatest Fight song, and then forty seconds go by and
the band is just standing there. And then finally they
strike up the band and they don't even play the
fight song. They play the Fleetwood Max song Tusk Mac
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you Got a Lovely wood Man. Yeah, well that's a
famous USC song. They play it all the time, but
it's not the fight song. And then Blake and Riley
walked up the stairs and then he walked back down
and then there was like an open mic and somebody
was like, we're just gonna play the song interview and
it was just, uh, it was it was very apropos
to what USC has been over the years. And I
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said it was going to be very difficult for them
to take this w with dignity the hiring of Lincoln Riley,
and they haven't. But it doesn't seem to matter. I mean,
the kids the recruits are flocking, but still what's most important.
You know, the funniest thing is, you know, USC is
talking about all these recruits, and there's all these pictures
of Lincoln Riley and all of these different home visits,
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and it seems like, you know, one day he's in
the Valley, one day he's in Orange County, one day
he's in San Diego, and he's all over the place
in southern California. And then Jim Harbaugh pops up at
a serviye kid's house, who's a two way offensive lineman
with like three staff members. They're all smiling, and you
know he's going to mission against like, fix your offensive line. USC.
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Stop taking pictures with cornerbacks and receivers, fix your freaking fronts,
fix your culture. I'm sure they're doing that, but that's you.
That's that's l A culture, though, is skill guys, quarterbacks
and skill guys right when we were good. I mean
those guys, those guys news. Yeah, I mean, those guys
make news. But I mean, let's talk about the history
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of USC offensive lineman. I mean, we can go back
and they're all from here this area. Guys like dom
Mose Bar and freaking Anthony Munio is the greatest tackle
of all time for Colorado. Tony BASSELLI, uh, you know
these guys man ever declee me? He was, Oh did
he You can't do You can't even get started with him.
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And he I'm a big man, He's he's a he's
a ginormous man. I saw him grab a dude from
Baylor like some d n's throat and run him from
the fifteen to the goal post and just choke him
on the goalpost like Steven Seagal movie. You know, you
know he got me. He got me on a reverse
and I almost feel like he told them to call
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that play just so he could get me, my rookie
year old be mole block block in man online. There
you go. He turned around, he turned it around, and
he knew I was gonna He knew I was gonna
squeeze down. He knew I was gonna see it, and
he was staying ending right out my turnaround point. And
and then I knew it was personal. I didn't know why,
but but he stood over me and he looked at me,
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and you know, he's got a pretty when he was
playing at it like a super intimidating face like, you know,
he looked over me and I I gotta admit, like,
I've never found myself in an intimidating feeling before, but
I was intimidating. I was intimidating. Yeah, yeah, I wassi.
By the way, No, I'm glad you did it. I mean,
I remember Maurice Jones Drew blowing up. Yeah, he got
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a man. Lights. You know, it was very therapeutic for
me to to disclose that to you guys, well LaVar,
you know, inside the box, everybody gets got, you know,
it's not like a cornerback having to admit that he
got burned on a Dino route. You know, it's like
those guys are weenie's. They don't know how to get
got on every other play, you know what I mean.
They don't understand your pride gets taken by dude like
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Maurice Drew. It looks like a fire hydrant coming through
the a gap blows up. Poor lights out. He got
a man, didn't He's like rock sock'm robots. But with us,
they've always done a great job with the offensive line.
Even in the modern era. The I mean, it's just
guys like Sam Baker and the Khalil brothers. I mean,
(37:12):
they just need to pay attention to that side of it.
I know they're not pretty in the living room, that
those type of pictures. Nobody likes a fat white kid
from Orange County, but we gotta dig them out. When
did that change happen? When did they go from not
focusing on the old line and just looking to grab
they run an air raid? Okay? So when when who
was responsible for that change? Was it after Pete Carroll left? Yeah,
(37:34):
after Pete Carroll left? Uh well, Pete Carroll pushed out
the best offensive line coach. They had a guy named
Tim Davis, who was the guy that stood up there
and called Urban Meyer the devil. Remember that. He was
like remember he was like he was talking to some
booster group. You know, it was right when the cell
phone video started getting everybody, and he said something like,
you know, I've been I've coached of Florida for Satan himself.
(38:02):
How would now if if Norm Chow was placing blame
on the No, I'm just asking, how would it sound like? Bone?
What am I doing? Jimmy Stewart, It's like one would
have said it, How would it sound? What happened was
this when they got rid of Tim Davis and hired
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all play colors. They lost the spirit of the front.
Do you know who I blame Big Carolum himself? That
was Tim David. I would just spelled the fire and
(38:44):
Primstone coach for Satan and Urban Meyer of course had
some statement, I'm very disappointed if there's garden the language.
I just let a guy shoot a dude in the face.
But I am very okay, I'm not following that up.
Really didn't let a guys shoot a dude in the face. Like,
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no one talks about that anyway. What happened? Maybe he'll
come to Oregon, Petros, What do you make of the
speculation that maybe Chip Kelly might be a guy that
would replace Mario Christobal in Oregon? Old Chip going back
to Eugene, What do you think it's real? Uh? Well,
first of all, you know, you guys all know who
Phil Knight is. And he's still alive and he can
still dial a phone with his arthritic fingers. So jesus,
(39:30):
what everybody's getting Hey, you guys wound him up. Everybody's
getting it this morning, Petrols. Everybody could get it. Come on.
Uh so he's gonna call you know, the ghost of
Joe Paterno. I mean he's gonna call everybody who would
answer the phone and say no first, because they'll answer
the phone for Phil Knight. He can get anybody in
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the world to pick up the phone another chance. Yeah,
I mean, so he can get urvan Meyer too soon?
Is it too soon? Pop? Well? What did he say
it too sou? I don't know. I mean we got
to call them up, Phil with you said Joe called
the ghost to Joe? Well, you know, I mean he'll try,
(40:13):
you know, like he'll try again. Joe needs another go
at it, so so he could kind of, you know,
clean some things up. I wouldn't mind seeing that, you know.
And no one could run into him on the sideline
because he's a ghost. You know, he couldn't break his leg.
You could go right through him. I was it went
over a lot of people's heads, I'm sure, you know.
But yeah, like yes, they would not hurt his leg
at this point, God him, Hey would not have to
(40:37):
sit in the press box and that you're right or
the hue Frieze chair of shame, very very cold, very
cold here. But they're gonna call everybody and then they're
gonna and and all those people are gonna say no,
like Chris Peterson and stuff, and then they're gonna call
Chip or Justin Wilcox and it's gonna be one of
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those guys, I think. And you just have to ask yourself,
how much does Chip like l A? How much does
Chip like what he built in l A. They built
the building for him. It's all to his design. He's
got a big food budget to right, He's got all
kinds of stuff, you know, he's got it's basically been
customized for him because he got the job and they
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invested in the program. At the same time. Of course,
his ability to staff has been called into question. But
he's now got a good quarterback waiting in the wings.
He has a lot of stuff going over there. He's
developed a lot of players, put guys in the NFL,
and you know, he's improved a great deal. They've done
a good job there. A lot of people don't want
(41:42):
to admit it, But is he great with that? Does
he like living in Westwood? Does he did he like Oregon?
They'll obviously it's a really good fit with all the
progressive innovation that he did there and and Oregan's football
identity in that way. That's a really good marriage. And
he is married now, and I guess the wife really
likes Oregon. But if anybody knows what's inside Chip's head,
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then that's that's somebody that's pretty pretty remarkable, because I
don't know, I mean, it's anybody's guests, but I think
they're going to have a real conversation and then we'll
figure it out. Is there a tactful way of being
able to make that jump from a pack twelve team
to a packed twelve team, or or just even watching
(42:26):
all these moving parts of these head coaches and your mind,
is there a tactful way of doing it? No? Not
when there's life changing riches, generational riches on the line.
At this point, I mean, these guys are getting nine
million dollars a year, eight million dollars a year, a gigantic,
just unbelievable boon for somebody who was a g a
(42:50):
or running around with a whistle swinging around their neck
getting yelled at by you know, some guy like I
don't know, Poward Schnellenberger, know. I mean, then these guys
are hitting the jackpots, so it's really hard to blame them,
uh for what for what's happening. And it's really the
early sighting day that's caused a lot of this commotion.
(43:11):
But I think most of us, I don't know, LaVar,
if you think this like most of us, I think
would be willing to deal with a couple of weeks
of bad press for a hundred million dollars. I mean
that the press always goes away and and in the
end they will come back and be like he did
get a hundred million dollars. Let me ask you this, Pops,
why not consider internally, like if you have somebody who
(43:34):
has the the resume, the background, the chops, so to speak,
to be able to recruit against the top recruiters. A
name that comes to mind for me, and I mean
maybe it's because I know him um as my teammate,
but what a dope dude and a dope coach and
Joe Salavea. Why would he not coming as a why
(43:57):
would he not come up as a name for Oregon?
I mean, he's that type of a guy that could leave.
He's got enough, you know, years in under his belt
for you to say he's he you know, he understands it,
he understands the structure. He definitely could recruit and wouldn't
lose in a lot of certain demographics, as you could imagine,
why not why not consider Salida? I don't know. I
(44:18):
mean it's interesting because you you wouldn't want another guy
to use Oregon as a stepping stone. And I'm not
saying Joe would do that. He probably wouldn't. That's kind
of the thing because once they got rid of and
that's been the knock on chip, Once they got rid
of the staff that was Mike Ballotti, kind of Rich
Brooks is the Galliote, guys like that that had been
(44:41):
at Oregon for decades and decades. Once they got rid
of those guys and fired Mark Helfritch, it became a
stepping stone job. If for Willie, it became now even
for Mario Cristo Ball. And it was never a recruiting
job before Willie and Mario Cristo Ball. It was always
a developmental kind of thing. Now they've become a place
(45:03):
where we recruit the best players and we this and that.
That's not really what got them into that title game
in the BCS against Auburn and all the success over
the years. They had some big recruits, but guys like
La Michael James, Marcus Mariota. They were not national names
when they got when they showed up at Oregon, they
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were developmental and maybe they do need to go inside,
deep inside football for a guy like Joe or somebody
like that that is a little bit more dedicated to
the place, because it really felt like Cristo Ball had
a good thing going there. But it's been a stepping
stone ever since they got rid of their their culture
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through Mike Bellotti and Rich Brooks, and bringing Chip back
would be a little bit of doing that again, especially
if he brought some of those old names back, like
our friend Mark Helfridge, who I hope keeps calling games.
I liked him at Fox Petro's Papacis. He is the
co host of The Petros and Money Shawn a five
seventy l a sports Fox college football analysts. Get him
(46:09):
on Twitter at the old p Petros. This is another
fun one. These are my machine work. Okay, that's fantastic. Great.
What's up with that, Chris? What's up? Yeah? What's up
with that? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, man, imagine dragons. Yeah, give
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him that good running man right now to aments come on,
we'll do it again next week. That there it is,
fight on it. Listen. You guys repped him up. You
told him, come on, we need more out of you
and we need next. You know, he's taking shots at
de Phil Knight and uh we got a Joe paternal reference.
(46:57):
Oh yeah, everybody got it. Guys getting shot in the face.
Everybody got it. There all right, hell stones and good.
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