December 9, 2021 • 39 mins
Jonas and LaVar tell Chicago to suck it up and get better after fans complain about Aaron Rodgers doubling down on his 'ownership' of the Bears. Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer joins the guys to weigh in on Big Ben's last season and much more. Plus, LaVar weighs in on Kayvon Thibodeaux skipping Oregon's bowl game for the NFL Draft.
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that was absolutely perfect. We'll get to that here and momentarily.
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are Arrington? Go Ahead's December, baby, So we're starting to
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starting to rev up for a wild ride for as
we chase the the NFL postseason. Here with you, Jonas,
I'm just saying, good you don't get excited this time
of year. They got in Atlanta, they got the Christmas
trees up, they got all the other things going on.
Is it feel like the holiday season at Magic City?
What's on the Christmas menu? Like I was wondering, I'm
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not that close close to the city. I don't I
don't even know where where that is. I've never been there,
I think. I think the first of all, I'm not
a big strip club guy, by the way, but I'm
not a strip club guy period. But but I have
gone before. And I think the one time that I
did go in my prior life was Cheatahs. I went
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to Cheatahs in Vegas. Yeah. And it's kind of funny
that no, not in Vegas, in Atlanta, Okay. And it's
kind of funny because in my mind I was like
man like and I wasn't married at the time. So
it was kind of like if I was like, man,
if you come up in here and it's like you
say the word enough, it's like cheatahs, cheatahs, Like you're
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you're automatically telling yourself. I'm like preparing myself for what's
about to happen. If I got some cash and I'm
doing all right, you know, cheatahs, I'm in a cheatahs.
I'm I'm I'm a cheatah. Like I don't know, I
don't know, man, but it wears me out a little bit. Anyway,
when I lived in Charleston, South Carolina, when I was
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working out there, I became friends with this gal who
just no, no, she knew everybody knows. It was just
friends and and but she knew everybody knew of all
the cool spots to go. And we were wrapping up
the end of the night and she said, yeah, well
definitely not. We were at the at the end of
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the night and she's like, do you want to go
to And I forgot I forget the name of this place.
It might have been like the Southern Bell. I think
it was the Southern Bell or something like that. I
was like, what is that? She goes to strip club?
I was like, I don't not really, you know, and
not really. She goes, no, no, no, but you can
like drink there and you can't drink out here at
the strip clubs out here in southern California. Well no,
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it's uh like we get there and there's a liquor
store on the side of the strip club, and you
walk into the liquor store and they say, all right,
here are your options. It's it's it's twenty dollars to
get in or ten dollars to get in if you
buy a bucket of beer. And I'm like, so, who's
getting the deal here? They just bought about either way.
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Oh yeah, I just bought a bucket of beer and
sat in there and it was just it was not
not my thing. But you know what I was. You know,
there's there's a place to be at. But you know,
I'm not one of these people is gonna lie and
tell you that the food was great, that the menu
was great, like some of these uh, these scam artists
out there. I'm sorry. The bear wasn't good, bro, No,
the beer was fine. It was it was you know,
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I thought you were saying. I sat down and I
really didn't like the bear that much. But everything else
was good. Yeah it was r DERs. I wasn't a
big fan of so just not my thing. But wasn't
a good That wasn't a good That wasn't a good Appather.
We need more dogs, we need not much. You need
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more tasks when you got starts. That was just Oh,
I gotta go ahead and head. I don't need no,
definitely not we need more definitely not. All right, So
here's here's here is somebody who I think deserves a
little bit of credit. They have been in the news
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for some people would say all the wrong reasons over
the past several weeks, and that is Aaron Rodgers. So
Aaron Rodgers, you know he uh you know, had the
vaccine uh, you know, immunization or whatever you want to
talk about, and the media just crushed him and destroyed
him and criticized him and his ulterior you know, ways
of treating himself even though it worked. Uh and uh
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and he's got all this uh, you know, all this
stuff that he's been dealing with. He's got the toe
injury that we speculated that he's clowning the media with.
This is all just him trying to get them to
talk about his health more and by doing so, he's
going to fan his toe out on a zoom call
with reporters. All this stuff has happened, but if you
go back way before all this ever happened. He got
some criticism because he told the Chicago Bear fans a
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soldier field yeah, that he owned him always y'all and
still own y'all. And there were some people that were
very bothered by well even some people tried to steer
it in the direction of what is he saying, like
that's inappropriate, especially in this day and age, which was
that's not what he meant. But anybody wants to turn
anything into a story. So Rogers, because the Packers are
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beating the Bears, who, by the way, the Bears, they're
actually going to change their name in Green Bay to
the Chicago Bye Weeks for the Green Bay Packers. I
thought you were going to call them the Chicago Rogers.
Ye see, yeah, yeah, the Chicago Bye Weeks or the
Chicago Rodgers if you will, because they can never beat
the Green Bay Packers since Aaron Rodgers has been there.
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Rogers spoke about the comments he made and the pushback
he's gotten a lot of times in you know, situations
like this, the trash talk is only able to be
used if you know, if you're getting after that individual
that there was trash talking. So in order to trash talk,
you have to have a lot of confidence and what
you've accomplished and what you're going to accomplish in the future.
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At some point what I said will be used against me.
That's just part of it. But I have no, you know,
no regrets for saying what I said. And obviously I
think the record kind of speaks for itself. Absolutely, it's
exactly what you should say and drop the micro Yes,
exactly what he should. Basically, if you don't want me
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to say I own, y'all do something about it. Don't lose.
Here's here's the part that is so comical with all this.
So Bear fans get all upset and all pissy about it,
and they get they get all whiny about it. I mean,
at some point, this is just what that game is,
because this isn't just a Rogers thing. He's twenty two
and five against the Bears all time, pure dominance. That's
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pure dominance. Far before him was twenty three and thirteen.
This has been going on twenty five thirty years at
one point, do you just understand, Hey, it is what
it is. Man Like, do the New York Jets still
complain that the Patriots are dominant, or they go, you
know what, Uh, it is what it is. There's nothing,
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you know, I don't know what we can really do
to try and dispute this. The evidence is there, the
facts are there. People are too sensitive. Of course they're
going to make a comment about it, and it's not
gonna matter. This is trash talk. It's harmless. If you
don't like it, get a better quarterback situation, hire a
better GM, get a better president of operations. Figure it
out in Chicago, and stop complaining about what some guy
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said to a fan who flipped them off. Cry babies,
just cry babies. Okay, all right, yeah, I'm just laugh. No, No,
it's not my team. Listen, I don't have no no,
you know you know who my team is. The Jonas
knock Show Every Saturday, tend to New An Eastern time,
seven and one Pacific right here, Real sports Radio. Really
did you really just do that? How about that? Did
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you really do that that? I'm doing them a discount?
You are so shameless, bro, But honestly though, oh no,
not now, we're being honest, be honest, stop bitching, do
something about it. I don't get the criticism. I don't
understand not coming from the players, though, it's coming from
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the fans. So you can't really be upset about it,
because disgruntled fans are going to be disgruntled fans, and
they're going to try to find a way to justify,
you know, lessening the pain Beers and Beers Beers fans
are in pain. You know, they're dealing with the fact
that they're not very good. They don't know who their
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quarterback is. Apparently Justin Fields has been cleared and he's
I think going to go this weekend, and you know,
it's just to me. You're looking out a fan base
that has not had what they've needed to have, you know,
for quite some time. I mean, the glory days of
the eighty five Beers is one thing, but then you
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still had an opportunity when you had be lacking and
that group Peanut Tilman and all those guys, Mike Brown
and those guys. There was a nice run and there
was hope and they made a Super Bowl. When you
watch Devin Hester be the closest thing to not being human,
and between that and being like something that you see
out in the in the serengetti, you know, hunting down
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one one of those antelope or anything like that. I mean,
you know, the idea of it is is that you
got to see some tremendous, amazing football. Julius Peppers coming
off of that edge, you know, Alex Brown, you know,
coming off of of the of the edge, you know,
a good run, King Jally. I mean, there's just you,
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the name Lance Briggs. I mean, the names go on
and on and on and on. For the amount of
talent that they had on that defense, and even with
Thomas Jones and all those guys on offense that they had,
Olden Creutz at the Olden Crutz is one of the
dopest linemen that that you'll ever see play the game,
and Nasty just they just had a lot of guys
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on that team. And so to me, when you even
when you look at the standard that they had during
that time in the way they play football, they're a far, far,
far cry away from what they once were. And when
you have a fan base that has gotten used to
having those type of personalities and those type of people
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associated with your organization, it becomes hard to be a fan.
And it's also and you talked about the Steelers, and
you know, growing up a Steeler fan, it was always
defense and running the football. A defense and running the football.
And even if their defense maybe wasn't great or they
weren't running the ball as well as they had, they
did find a franchise Hall of Fame quarterback in Ben
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Roethlisberger the Bears. Growing up watching the Bears, it was
always defense, running the football. The problem is they've never
found that quarterback. So this just goes to show you
the difference between having two Hall of Fame quarterbacks and
not having any for a twenty to twenty five years stretch.
And that's that's what ends up happening twenty two and
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five against five, and twenty two against one, and thirteen
and twenty three against the other. I mean, this is
this is an ongoing thing to where they've constantly tried
to find the quarterback. Jay Cutler's the best quarterback in
the history of the franchise is not even close. People
try and dispute it. It's not close. But Twayne who
I mean, next up would be uh Harbaugh Jim McCann
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set luckman, like, I mean, this is but this is
the problem with the organization. They just haven't found that
one position, that quarterback. It's been going on for a
long time and it's just this is where we're at.
But stop complaining because because that you know, your arch
rival has actually found that position twice. Aaron Rodgers just
told y'all what y'all could do. If y'all want to
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discount double check them, then you better check you damn right.
If you don't checking, we gonna keep telling y'all you
own y'all, why discount double checking? He's going to immunize
your ass, you know what I mean. You want to
get and you want to get back at him as
a fan, called State Farm and tell him I will
never get a policy. I'll never do any business with
y'all until y'all get rid of Aaron Rodgers. Let's see
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what they say to y'all. Man, forget State Farm man,
You're not only gonna lose on the football field, You're
gonna lose off the field because State Farm agent's gonna
be like, do you know what our bottom line has
looked like since we've done the discount double check with
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you know, forget all that. I mean,
who cares? Who cares about that? I mean they got
him doing rocker videos. He's he's playing guitar. You play
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air guitar. They had Aaron Rodgers and his duds. He
was playing real rocker music bro Yeah, and in the
nationally televised commercial. But that guy can play guitar like
I can dunk a basketball shot. Yeah. Just like trying
to say neither one of y'all could do it, just
like Elvis Presley could play guitar. Oh kind of scam,
you know, But again, I'm just dropping knowledge here. That's
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right now, all right, coming up next, we are going
to to get some speculation. Well, if you did rovertos
found to gem. We are going to get into some
speculation about a major quarterback change in the off season.
We'll get to that next here for you on FSR.
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Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Errington, and
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Right now.
Kind enough to join us here every single week on
Fox Sports Radio. He's Albert Breer, the MMQB senior NFL reporter.
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You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, Albert,
what's happ happening? How are you on? I'm good, I'm good.
It's Prady out of the speaking circuit. I saw yeah,
i'mout that. I mean it. Just you know, I think
he's a jack of all trades. He's the MC that
he shows up on Big newon Kickoff. He's all over
the place. We were sort of having the discussion to
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start the show about Ben Roethlisberger, who obviously the Steelers
or at the Vikings kicking off week fourteen Thursday Night
coming up later on, and just how this really could
be one of our last opportunities in primetime to see
Ben Roethlisberger as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. There
was a report that came out over the weekend from
Adam Schefter, and we're not going to make the jokes,
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but just saying that Ben Roethlisberger had told some people
close to him that he's he doesn't think he'll be
back with Pittsburgh, but he didn't allude to retirement. What
do you expect Ben to do at the end of
this season? Is it Is it going to be another
run in Pittsburgh or do you think this is it?
Or is he going to try and find work elsewhere?
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I mean, I think it's gonna be hard for him
to find help out work elsewhere. You know, It's just
I think you look across the NFL and there aren't
that many openings at that position, and you know, even
the teams that you know might be good at quarterback
are looking to get better. You know, we saw that
last year with you know, the Rams and the Niners
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what they did, and you know, the Rams going and
getting you know, Matthew Stafford even though they'd had an
established quarterback in golf, and the same thing with the
Niners going and getting Trey Lance when they already had
Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I just I don't know, guys,
if he's not a Steeler next year, and obviously his
contracts up, I don't know, like where he goes and
finds work. I mean I think he'd almost have to
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go into that category of player, you know, almost like
maybe like what Philip Rivers was at the end of
his career, where all right, like we don't like the
quarterback in this year's draft, and maybe we can't go
and get it to Shaun Watson or you know, or
Russell Wilson, and so instead we're gonna just go get
Ben Roethlisberger to kind of duct tape things for a year.
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I mean, absent one of those sorts of situations popping up,
and I don't know there's any guarantee that one will.
And obviously the River situation was a little bit of
a special one because you know, Philip had worked with
Frank right before. I don't know exactly where, you know,
there would be an opening for him to go and
find work elsewhere. Oh man, Well, you know, sometimes your
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your your dismount is better than your landing. I mean,
that's that's just what happens sometimes, Albert, let's let's let's
talk about dismounts and landings. Ob J landed in Los
Angeles and so far what Albert? Where where are we at?
With OBJ? It was a headline that dominated the media circuit,
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and now it's seemingly it's just really uh well, it's
very quiet, so to speak. Well, you know, we all
of the attention stand in twenty twenty one of like,
you know, firing that might have something to do with it. Yeah,
I mean, I look like I think a piece of this,
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a piece of this to me is sort of you
know what he was always going to mean to the Rams, right,
and so you know, when he came in, I think
he was a little bit of a luxury item because
they had Cooper Cup and Robert Woods. Now Robert Woods
goes down and practice the week he signs, and you know,
I think he became a little bit more of a
necessity or a little bit more of you know, I
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kind of like it was more of a necessity that
they go and get a player at that position. But
even still, they have Cooper Cup, who is on record,
who's on pace to break records as a receiver, and
so you know, I don't know the receiver was ever
their issue of OAR, and I think that's why it's not,
you know, as much of a story like to me,
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like the problem is the overall physitisicality of the team,
and I think their offensive line, you know, and and
and you look at the way that they've gotten beat.
It's not because they're not good enough on the outside.
When they've gotten beat, and they've gotten beat and soundly
a couple of times now, it's been because San Francisco
pushed them around. It's been because Tennessee pushed them around.
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And so, you know, I don't think that the you know,
OBJ like kind of fading into the background here is
about like, you know, a total failure of the experiment
with the Rams. I think it can still work, and
I think there's a place for him, especially now that
Robert Woods isn't healthy. I think more so it's the
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Rams had other issues and this sort of maybe just
distracted us from our from their other issues that we've
seen come up again in games against teams like the
Titans and the nine Ers. Albert Brier joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio, the MMQB senior NFL reporter good
him on Twitter at Albert Brier, Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington
with you here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, So
I want to ask, because you've covered and spent a
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lot of time obviously in the Boston area growing up there,
living in and around the area. You covered the New
England Patriots for a long long time exclusively and now
obviously on a national scale, where does the performance that
Bill Belichick is putting on who not not to wash
my own balls here, but I would just like to
point out I said weeks ago he should be Coach
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of the Year. Now he's the odds on favorite. Where
does this performance this year and especially what he did
Monday night rank for you in the time he spent
there in New England with the Patriots? Well, what's up there?
I mean, you know, like being able to do this
and rebuilding the fly this way coming that he has
this year. I you know, I think it's it's there
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a few years where you look at the roster he
ad and it's like, wow, how do you do that?
Like in two thousand and six, you know, their team
had gotten a little bit older and they had no receivers.
I mean they lost then branch, they lost David Gibbons,
and they went to the AFC Title game in twenty eleven.
The defense was just a dumpster fire and they went
to the Super Bowl. So we've seen him, you know,
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beyond just the championship years, the Super Bowl years. We've
seen him, you know, turn tricks like that before. I
think what's so impressive about this one. Was so impressive
about this one is being able to basically rebuild the
roster on the fly, and not just rebuild the roster
on the fly, but do it in such a coherent
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and complete way. And I mean, I think you could
make the argument they had one of the worst rosters
in football last year in twenty twenty. And to be
able to nail his draft picks, nail his free agents,
and not just you know, get that right, but also
have like this bigger picture feel for how everything fit together.
I think it's just it's so impressive and you can
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see it. Guys. Like you know, like a lot of
people like to talk about analytics and football, all it
is is finding inefficiencies. Right Well, now in the NFL,
you're seeing more defenses that are built to rush and cover.
That means two hundred and twenty pound linebackers, two hundred
and forty pound pass rushers, you know, guys who were
probably natural corners playing safety. You know, Bill Belichick's decided decided,
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I'm gonna have three hundred and twenty pound guards, I'm
gonna have I'm gonna have two hundred and thirty pound tailbacks,
and I'm gonna run right at that. And we sought
the other night again, you know. And so I just
think the combination of being able to fix the roster,
being able to put together a roster that made sense,
the pieces fit together, and then, you know, at the
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same time, being able to counteract what's going on in football.
I think it's been incredibly impressive. And I guess another
feather in a cap that's got a lot of feathers
in there already. Is this a Super Bowl contending Patriots team?
Are they the favorite now? On AFC side? Wellvar do
you watch Alabama on Saturday? All right? So, do you
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know how like this year we've all been kind of like, ah,
they don't quite look the same, I don't know, and
then Saturday startup, Notice, Oh there they are, that's them right.
Then they're bigger and stronger and fastening everybody else? Could
that be the Chiefs? Like, could this be like us,
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like all wasting our breath the last three months, and
all of a sudden they're playing really good defense. And
then like in two weeks from now, all of a sudden,
it's playoff time and we're getting close. And wow, Patrick
Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes again. I just think, like I
look at them AFC right and I think the Patriots
maybe still be like a year away from a roster
standpoint where they want to be. Baltimore is incredibly beat
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up whilst both they're running backs, whist they're left tackle,
They're down their top two corners. Tennessee is really beat
up at receiver obviously Derrick Henry being out. It feels
like the conference is still like wide open, but yet
you still have like Alabama sitting there. I hate like
so like I think the Patriots. I think the Patriots
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are a real contender to get there. I just think
that there's this Chiefs team sitting in the AFC where,
if the offense finds its way again, I think they
have a chance to shut the lights out on everybody. Hey, Albert,
you're talking to the wrong guy because LaVar hates the
Kansas City Chiefs, so I don't try the wrong guy.
I don't hate them, I just don't trust them. I
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think that there's something I don't trust them. I just
I don't. I think if you were going to figure
it out, you'd figure it out about now. And although
I liked your analogy, I thought it hit home pretty good.
I just think that Alabama is always a threat to
be more than what they are in even in down years.
I just don't I don't see that being the case.
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And in the pros, I just don't. And I just
don't see how a team goes from barely being able
to break twenty points in in a lot of the
games to now they're like this offensive juggernaut again. I
just I don't see it. See. I think the thing
of the thing about Sami LaVar, though, is the defense
has played really well. And I think in the over
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analysis and the analysis of what's happened to them offensively,
like I almost look at it like are they learning
to win a different way because they have to write? Right?
And are they are they going to be stronger in
the long term because of it? Like that defense right
and it's really good players in the defense too, like
Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Tyrone Matthew those are legit guys, right,
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and they've got some good young players like Legarius Sneed
growing now. Well, that defense over the last couple of
years never really had to carry them, right, and so
I just think having that experience now they've over the
last month, if they've been the group the sort of
had to dig the team out of the rut. If
the offense gets this acting, wouldn't I mean, wouldn't stand
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the reason like that? Now all of a sudden, you're
talking about like a team that might be able to
elevate to another level from where they've been in the
last two years, Right, So I mean I don't know, Like,
maybe you're right. Maybe the office well here we'll think
about this though, Albert, to your point, name name a
prolific offense in the NFC this year that's putting up
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crazy points. Name a prolific offense that's putting up a
ton of points in the AFC. Let's name, yeah, one, right,
there is some one I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking
about the NFC. Who an NFC is just a prolific offense.
I mean at times, Green Bay at times, at times,
Arizona at Okay, well, never mind, that's three twos, I think.
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And the AFC. Though in the AFC you might be good. Yeah,
I mean I look at it, yeah, and I think,
like again, like if it continues to be now, Baltimore
to me, like I look at Baltimore and they're different
than the other teams because they're not getting their guys back,
right like Baltimore JK. Dobbins, Marlon Humphrey, Marcus Peters, Ronnie
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those guys aren't coming back. So I look at them
and I'm saying, okay, like they're tough. No one's gonna
want to play them in January. But I don't know
if they's string three wins in a row. Like I
look at Tennessee. Tennessee they get that running back back
and now all of a sudden, like there's somebody who's
capable again, you know, And so like I think, as
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long as things are sort of like this, like muddled mess,
I think the Patriots have a chance to beat anybody
because I think on any day, on any on any
game day, Bill Belichick can coach the guy on the
other sideline and can work around certain things. You know.
I just think that there are a few teams in
the AFC that have higher ceilings, and I think Kansas
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City's won. I think I think Tennessee if they can
get healthy. There are another one Baltimore. Again, I don't
look at them quite the same way because so many
of those guys that I mentioned are coming back. Albert
the last one before I let you go, I know,
on your weekly mail bag for SI, you did you
know answered the question about Bryce Young and just the
opinion of him as far as NFL scouts go. He
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looked obviously fantastic in the SEC Championship game. Brady Quinn's
been pounding the drum for him for months now because
he saw him in the spring game and said, this
guy's the real deal. Are we starting to get into
the Trevor Lawrence territory where we saw him so early
in his career and just said, man, just stay healthy
because when he's ready to go, this guy's going to
be a can't miss prospect in the NFL. Yeah. I mean,
(28:39):
I don't know if he's quite like Trevor Lawrence just
because he doesn't have a size and you know, if
you want to talk about nitpicking stuff. We're gonna be
nitpicking like his height, you know, in a year, in
a year, in a couple of months. Like it's gonna
be like with Kyler, you know, like is he stuffing?
Is he putting like lipts in his shoes before they
measure him? But I mean, like he's got everything else,
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you know, I think he's he's one of these kids
where you know, and having talked to a couple of
guys and they haven't studied him yet, so like there's
gonna be like deeper guys that teams are gonna do
on him. But like at first glance, you know, teams
getting to look at him and seeing him on tape
when they're studying other players, live arm, competitive, sees the
field really well. Apparently he's a really good kid. Like
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he's one of these guys where if he's got like
just about everything except for one thing, and the one
thing is going to be the size, but you know,
just athletic, like very very live arm for someone his size,
you know, and and and again sees the field really well,
has great command and is really competitive is probably I
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mean what these guys have said to me in like
the little work I did over the course the last
few days, more town than Matt Jones or two a
tongue of Valoa. And so you know, both those guys
were first round picks. So I think we're we're definitely
you know, in a place right now. Well, we can
already start talking about him as a pretty sure thing
to go in the first round in twenty twenty three.
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Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. He is the
MMQB senior NFL reporter and he's always kind enough to
join us everything the week yere on FSR. Albert, We
appreciate it, man. Let's do it again next week. Thanks
very weekend, the Great Albert Brier. It's two pros and
a cup of Joe. Radio asked him how he felt
about Michigan heading into a massacre situation. He was a
(30:28):
little fired up last time we asked him, you know,
because we asked him, you know, on the heels of
Ohio State losing to Michigan. And one of the first
things he said was, you know, I mean they are
kind of celebrating it a lot, like it's kind of
going over the t It's like, well, you know, of course,
I mean they haven't beat Ohio State and you know
years so if they were, of course they were going
to celebrate it. But yeah, you do know that the
(30:50):
magical run has to come to an end. Well maybe not,
maybe not, who knows. I mean, Michigan live dog against
against Georgia. You don't think you don't think Michigan's got
an opportunity there A hard knocks. You know it gets
through all out here, man, it does. I hear the sticks.
You gotta stay warm. Sticks. You gotta put your big
(31:12):
bubble jacket on. If you you you gotta you gotta
try to stay stay stay warm against them Georgia bullo,
sticks and knocks. Throw off the X, baby, you're throwing
up the X right now? Ye throw up the X.
You need two more sets of arms so you could
get triple lets. You point all right? It is a
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knocks with you here on FSR. Coming up next, somebody
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Here Fox Sports Radio minus Brady Quinn, that bastard. We
are going to take you all the way up until
nine am Eastern times Corrupt and dass Dylinger with your
west Side Bay was Hey, wasn't that to corrupt and
dazz Dilinger with naked. Yeah, how did you know that?
(33:06):
You know, man, listen to the streets. When you got
all that talent. Man, you could even do a rap
jam to to, you know, an old school song, you
know what I mean? Man, Like I'm so proud of
the Dog Pound, the DPG. You know what I'm Yeah,
I hear you, man, Yeah, yeah, it's real that here.
Do you know who's biggest beef was with Jonas when
(33:28):
he was rapping? Do you know Corrupt's biggest beef? Yeah? Rapper? Yeah,
do you know? I of course I know, of course
I know. Yeah. I think it was probably DMX. You
think it was DMX. Yeah, I put the X up,
you know what I mean? Sticks, DMX knocks, I mean,
axes are wild. I was about to say something real wild,
but I guess I won't. I won't word it that way.
But there's you know, he did data. A young lady
(33:51):
in the industry as well said sadly enough, she's not
here anymore. Sadly enough DMX isn't here anymore. And I
was gonna word that way differently. Yeah, yeah, but I refrain.
You know what, Sometimes you just put it back in
the holster, you know, like you got to just keep
the jokes. Whoa, whoa Jonas. He's got to keep slow
hard knocks Jonas like you keep it in the holster, brother,
(34:13):
keep it in the holster. Okay. By the way, coming
up in a little over ten minutes from now here
on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, We've got
an update on Thursday Night Football if you if you
play fantasy football or you're degenerate gambler, We've got an
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get to that here a little over ten minutes from
now on FSR. All right, so let me ask you
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your thoughts because you've brought this up. The Cabon Thibodeaux
decision to want to talk about. Okay, you don't want
to talk about that one. No, I don't even want
to do it. Okay, Cabon Thibodeaux making the decision. Guy
who's been thought of as a really highly touted prospect,
mel Kiper, has been you know, all over the Cabon
(34:55):
Thibodeaux trade talking about, you know, best prospect in the draft.
Sort of an up and down year at Oregon. But
he is, you know, making the decision that looks like
he's going to be skipping the ball game. I know
that there are some people who feel really strongly about this.
You know, when Christian McCaffrey did it, he got some pushback.
When Leonard Fournette did it, he got some pushback. Where
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does it land with you when you see a guy
like this make the decision to skip his bowl game?
And would you have done the same thing seeing that
you were a top two pick in the NFL draft
when you came out of pick well, I had the
opportunity to opt out if I wanted to. I had
a ton of I had a ton of incentive to
play in Ala Mobile for our last game at the
(35:42):
at the time, go figure this and now think about this.
In that time frame, Jerry Sandusky was a beloved, well
respected and just a super super guru of Penn State
football and it was going to be his last game.
Imagine that right, Imagine the turn of events since since
(36:03):
that time, I wanted to play. I wanted to play
because we wanted to honor honor our defensive coordinator and
send him out on on a high note. And a secondly,
for me, I was coming off of a shoulder injury
that I had sustained hitting uh Anthony Thomas h the
a train. We we we met in the hole in
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my shoulder. While I looked like I got the better
of the hit and the play, my shoulder was all
messed up after after that that hit. So I wasn't
able to lift my arm up after that play. Yeah,
did you light him up like Steve Attwater did to
Christian Akoya back in the day. It was. It was
a smooth assassination. It was smooth, Yeah, it was. And
(36:54):
I mean we were downhill and we met like two
rams that bucked in the wild and he went down.
He went down on his back. I went down on
my front. But I didn't play the next week he did,
so I don't know you you worked that one out,
but you know, and they won that game, freaking Tom
(37:14):
Brady being anyway. So anyway, the point is is that
going into that Alamobile, I hadn't played in the h
I didn't play in the Michigan State game. T J.
Duckett ran for like two hundred yards against our defense,
So that left a bad taste in my mouth. Coming
out of the regular season, we had missed being able
to play for the National Championship, so I wanted to play,
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so I had enough incentive to play. My mom messed
up my my announcement. I wasn't going to tell people
until a little bit after that I was declaring for
the draft. My mom was like, bump it, Like I'm
just telling the world, like my son's going pro, so
y'all better enjoy this game. But yeah, I mean, I
think nowadays, if you have a plan and you have
(37:59):
a STRATG and you're protecting your your planning your strategy,
I think that you got to do what's best for
you ultimately and what's best for your your family moving forward,
and with this new NIL stuff, hopefully that guys are
a little bit more incentivized and taking care of more
in a way where they're not really worrying about having
to sit out and and they're trying to enjoy their
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college careers to the fullest, even to the end. Like
to me, I just think about legacy and what that
represents at Penn State for me, and I would never
want to ruin what that represented and and and opting
out kind of you kind of like take away that
endaring feeling from from the fan base where you went
to school, like your school is like kind of forever,
(38:43):
s your mom. Your mom gave out the announcement earlier. Yeah,
she gave it out. Yeah, my mom did something similar
to my brother, you know, so sort of similar. Brother
was trying to remember back in the day before caller
id s, somebody would just call and it was a
surprise who was going to be on the other end. Ye, So,
my brother I was trying to avoid a call from
a gal she called the house. As the phone was ringing,
(39:05):
he tells my mom in the kitchen, Hey, if it's
So and So, tell her I'm not here. My mom
answers the phone, and then it's the woman that he
was trying to avoid, and she says on the phone, Hey,
he told me to tell you he's not here. And
he ran down the hall like the cops were after him.
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are Arrington? Go Ahead's December, baby, So we're starting to
(01:28):
starting to rev up for a wild ride for as
we chase the the NFL postseason. Here with you, Jonas,
I'm just saying, good you don't get excited this time
of year. They got in Atlanta, they got the Christmas
trees up, they got all the other things going on.
Is it feel like the holiday season at Magic City?
What's on the Christmas menu? Like I was wondering, I'm
(01:52):
not that close close to the city. I don't I
don't even know where where that is. I've never been there,
I think. I think the first of all, I'm not
a big strip club guy, by the way, but I'm
not a strip club guy period. But but I have
gone before. And I think the one time that I
did go in my prior life was Cheatahs. I went
(02:15):
to Cheatahs in Vegas. Yeah. And it's kind of funny
that no, not in Vegas, in Atlanta, Okay. And it's
kind of funny because in my mind I was like
man like and I wasn't married at the time. So
it was kind of like if I was like, man,
if you come up in here and it's like you
say the word enough, it's like cheatahs, cheatahs, Like you're
(02:36):
you're automatically telling yourself. I'm like preparing myself for what's
about to happen. If I got some cash and I'm
doing all right, you know, cheatahs, I'm in a cheatahs.
I'm I'm I'm a cheatah. Like I don't know, I
don't know, man, but it wears me out a little bit. Anyway,
when I lived in Charleston, South Carolina, when I was
(02:57):
working out there, I became friends with this gal who
just no, no, she knew everybody knows. It was just
friends and and but she knew everybody knew of all
the cool spots to go. And we were wrapping up
the end of the night and she said, yeah, well
definitely not. We were at the at the end of
(03:18):
the night and she's like, do you want to go
to And I forgot I forget the name of this place.
It might have been like the Southern Bell. I think
it was the Southern Bell or something like that. I
was like, what is that? She goes to strip club?
I was like, I don't not really, you know, and
not really. She goes, no, no, no, but you can
like drink there and you can't drink out here at
the strip clubs out here in southern California. Well no,
(03:39):
it's uh like we get there and there's a liquor
store on the side of the strip club, and you
walk into the liquor store and they say, all right,
here are your options. It's it's it's twenty dollars to
get in or ten dollars to get in if you
buy a bucket of beer. And I'm like, so, who's
getting the deal here? They just bought about either way.
(04:00):
Oh yeah, I just bought a bucket of beer and
sat in there and it was just it was not
not my thing. But you know what I was. You know,
there's there's a place to be at. But you know,
I'm not one of these people is gonna lie and
tell you that the food was great, that the menu
was great, like some of these uh, these scam artists
out there. I'm sorry. The bear wasn't good, bro, No,
the beer was fine. It was it was you know,
(04:23):
I thought you were saying. I sat down and I
really didn't like the bear that much. But everything else
was good. Yeah it was r DERs. I wasn't a
big fan of so just not my thing. But wasn't
a good That wasn't a good That wasn't a good Appather.
We need more dogs, we need not much. You need
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more tasks when you got starts. That was just Oh,
I gotta go ahead and head. I don't need no,
definitely not we need more definitely not. All right, So
here's here's here is somebody who I think deserves a
little bit of credit. They have been in the news
(05:05):
for some people would say all the wrong reasons over
the past several weeks, and that is Aaron Rodgers. So
Aaron Rodgers, you know he uh you know, had the
vaccine uh, you know, immunization or whatever you want to
talk about, and the media just crushed him and destroyed
him and criticized him and his ulterior you know, ways
of treating himself even though it worked. Uh and uh
(05:27):
and he's got all this uh, you know, all this
stuff that he's been dealing with. He's got the toe
injury that we speculated that he's clowning the media with.
This is all just him trying to get them to
talk about his health more and by doing so, he's
going to fan his toe out on a zoom call
with reporters. All this stuff has happened, but if you
go back way before all this ever happened. He got
some criticism because he told the Chicago Bear fans a
(05:52):
soldier field yeah, that he owned him always y'all and
still own y'all. And there were some people that were
very bothered by well even some people tried to steer
it in the direction of what is he saying, like
that's inappropriate, especially in this day and age, which was
that's not what he meant. But anybody wants to turn
anything into a story. So Rogers, because the Packers are
(06:16):
beating the Bears, who, by the way, the Bears, they're
actually going to change their name in Green Bay to
the Chicago Bye Weeks for the Green Bay Packers. I
thought you were going to call them the Chicago Rogers.
Ye see, yeah, yeah, the Chicago Bye Weeks or the
Chicago Rodgers if you will, because they can never beat
the Green Bay Packers since Aaron Rodgers has been there.
(06:37):
Rogers spoke about the comments he made and the pushback
he's gotten a lot of times in you know, situations
like this, the trash talk is only able to be
used if you know, if you're getting after that individual
that there was trash talking. So in order to trash talk,
you have to have a lot of confidence and what
you've accomplished and what you're going to accomplish in the future.
(06:59):
At some point what I said will be used against me.
That's just part of it. But I have no, you know,
no regrets for saying what I said. And obviously I
think the record kind of speaks for itself. Absolutely, it's
exactly what you should say and drop the micro Yes,
exactly what he should. Basically, if you don't want me
(07:19):
to say I own, y'all do something about it. Don't lose.
Here's here's the part that is so comical with all this.
So Bear fans get all upset and all pissy about it,
and they get they get all whiny about it. I mean,
at some point, this is just what that game is,
because this isn't just a Rogers thing. He's twenty two
and five against the Bears all time, pure dominance. That's
(07:42):
pure dominance. Far before him was twenty three and thirteen.
This has been going on twenty five thirty years at
one point, do you just understand, Hey, it is what
it is. Man Like, do the New York Jets still
complain that the Patriots are dominant, or they go, you
know what, Uh, it is what it is. There's nothing,
(08:04):
you know, I don't know what we can really do
to try and dispute this. The evidence is there, the
facts are there. People are too sensitive. Of course they're
going to make a comment about it, and it's not
gonna matter. This is trash talk. It's harmless. If you
don't like it, get a better quarterback situation, hire a
better GM, get a better president of operations. Figure it
out in Chicago, and stop complaining about what some guy
(08:26):
said to a fan who flipped them off. Cry babies,
just cry babies. Okay, all right, yeah, I'm just laugh. No, No,
it's not my team. Listen, I don't have no no,
you know you know who my team is. The Jonas
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did you really just do that? How about that? Did
(08:48):
you really do that that? I'm doing them a discount?
You are so shameless, bro, But honestly though, oh no,
not now, we're being honest, be honest, stop bitching, do
something about it. I don't get the criticism. I don't
understand not coming from the players, though, it's coming from
(09:10):
the fans. So you can't really be upset about it,
because disgruntled fans are going to be disgruntled fans, and
they're going to try to find a way to justify,
you know, lessening the pain Beers and Beers Beers fans
are in pain. You know, they're dealing with the fact
that they're not very good. They don't know who their
(09:30):
quarterback is. Apparently Justin Fields has been cleared and he's
I think going to go this weekend, and you know,
it's just to me. You're looking out a fan base
that has not had what they've needed to have, you know,
for quite some time. I mean, the glory days of
the eighty five Beers is one thing, but then you
(09:52):
still had an opportunity when you had be lacking and
that group Peanut Tilman and all those guys, Mike Brown
and those guys. There was a nice run and there
was hope and they made a Super Bowl. When you
watch Devin Hester be the closest thing to not being human,
and between that and being like something that you see
out in the in the serengetti, you know, hunting down
(10:13):
one one of those antelope or anything like that. I mean,
you know, the idea of it is is that you
got to see some tremendous, amazing football. Julius Peppers coming
off of that edge, you know, Alex Brown, you know,
coming off of of the of the edge, you know,
a good run, King Jally. I mean, there's just you,
(10:35):
the name Lance Briggs. I mean, the names go on
and on and on and on. For the amount of
talent that they had on that defense, and even with
Thomas Jones and all those guys on offense that they had,
Olden Creutz at the Olden Crutz is one of the
dopest linemen that that you'll ever see play the game,
and Nasty just they just had a lot of guys
(10:59):
on that team. And so to me, when you even
when you look at the standard that they had during
that time in the way they play football, they're a far, far,
far cry away from what they once were. And when
you have a fan base that has gotten used to
having those type of personalities and those type of people
(11:22):
associated with your organization, it becomes hard to be a fan.
And it's also and you talked about the Steelers, and
you know, growing up a Steeler fan, it was always
defense and running the football. A defense and running the football.
And even if their defense maybe wasn't great or they
weren't running the ball as well as they had, they
did find a franchise Hall of Fame quarterback in Ben
(11:44):
Roethlisberger the Bears. Growing up watching the Bears, it was
always defense, running the football. The problem is they've never
found that quarterback. So this just goes to show you
the difference between having two Hall of Fame quarterbacks and
not having any for a twenty to twenty five years stretch.
And that's that's what ends up happening twenty two and
(12:05):
five against five, and twenty two against one, and thirteen
and twenty three against the other. I mean, this is
this is an ongoing thing to where they've constantly tried
to find the quarterback. Jay Cutler's the best quarterback in
the history of the franchise is not even close. People
try and dispute it. It's not close. But Twayne who
I mean, next up would be uh Harbaugh Jim McCann
(12:28):
set luckman, like, I mean, this is but this is
the problem with the organization. They just haven't found that
one position, that quarterback. It's been going on for a
long time and it's just this is where we're at.
But stop complaining because because that you know, your arch
rival has actually found that position twice. Aaron Rodgers just
told y'all what y'all could do. If y'all want to
(12:49):
discount double check them, then you better check you damn right.
If you don't checking, we gonna keep telling y'all you
own y'all, why discount double checking? He's going to immunize
your ass, you know what I mean. You want to
get and you want to get back at him as
a fan, called State Farm and tell him I will
never get a policy. I'll never do any business with
y'all until y'all get rid of Aaron Rodgers. Let's see
(13:10):
what they say to y'all. Man, forget State Farm man,
You're not only gonna lose on the football field, You're
gonna lose off the field because State Farm agent's gonna
be like, do you know what our bottom line has
looked like since we've done the discount double check with
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you know, forget all that. I mean,
who cares? Who cares about that? I mean they got
him doing rocker videos. He's he's playing guitar. You play
(13:31):
air guitar. They had Aaron Rodgers and his duds. He
was playing real rocker music bro Yeah, and in the
nationally televised commercial. But that guy can play guitar like
I can dunk a basketball shot. Yeah. Just like trying
to say neither one of y'all could do it, just
like Elvis Presley could play guitar. Oh kind of scam,
you know, But again, I'm just dropping knowledge here. That's
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what's happ happening? How are you on? I'm good, I'm good.
It's Prady out of the speaking circuit. I saw yeah,
i'mout that. I mean it. Just you know, I think
he's a jack of all trades. He's the MC that
he shows up on Big newon Kickoff. He's all over
the place. We were sort of having the discussion to
(15:17):
start the show about Ben Roethlisberger, who obviously the Steelers
or at the Vikings kicking off week fourteen Thursday Night
coming up later on, and just how this really could
be one of our last opportunities in primetime to see
Ben Roethlisberger as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. There
was a report that came out over the weekend from
Adam Schefter, and we're not going to make the jokes,
(15:40):
but just saying that Ben Roethlisberger had told some people
close to him that he's he doesn't think he'll be
back with Pittsburgh, but he didn't allude to retirement. What
do you expect Ben to do at the end of
this season? Is it Is it going to be another
run in Pittsburgh or do you think this is it?
Or is he going to try and find work elsewhere?
(16:01):
I mean, I think it's gonna be hard for him
to find help out work elsewhere. You know, It's just
I think you look across the NFL and there aren't
that many openings at that position, and you know, even
the teams that you know might be good at quarterback
are looking to get better. You know, we saw that
last year with you know, the Rams and the Niners
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what they did, and you know, the Rams going and
getting you know, Matthew Stafford even though they'd had an
established quarterback in golf, and the same thing with the
Niners going and getting Trey Lance when they already had
Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I just I don't know, guys,
if he's not a Steeler next year, and obviously his
contracts up, I don't know, like where he goes and
finds work. I mean I think he'd almost have to
(16:43):
go into that category of player, you know, almost like
maybe like what Philip Rivers was at the end of
his career, where all right, like we don't like the
quarterback in this year's draft, and maybe we can't go
and get it to Shaun Watson or you know, or
Russell Wilson, and so instead we're gonna just go get
Ben Roethlisberger to kind of duct tape things for a year.
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I mean, absent one of those sorts of situations popping up,
and I don't know there's any guarantee that one will.
And obviously the River situation was a little bit of
a special one because you know, Philip had worked with
Frank right before. I don't know exactly where, you know,
there would be an opening for him to go and
find work elsewhere. Oh man, Well, you know, sometimes your
(17:29):
your your dismount is better than your landing. I mean,
that's that's just what happens sometimes, Albert, let's let's let's
talk about dismounts and landings. Ob J landed in Los
Angeles and so far what Albert? Where where are we at?
With OBJ? It was a headline that dominated the media circuit,
(17:52):
and now it's seemingly it's just really uh well, it's
very quiet, so to speak. Well, you know, we all
of the attention stand in twenty twenty one of like,
you know, firing that might have something to do with it. Yeah,
I mean, I look like I think a piece of this,
(18:14):
a piece of this to me is sort of you
know what he was always going to mean to the Rams, right,
and so you know, when he came in, I think
he was a little bit of a luxury item because
they had Cooper Cup and Robert Woods. Now Robert Woods
goes down and practice the week he signs, and you know,
I think he became a little bit more of a
necessity or a little bit more of you know, I
(18:35):
kind of like it was more of a necessity that
they go and get a player at that position. But
even still, they have Cooper Cup, who is on record,
who's on pace to break records as a receiver, and
so you know, I don't know the receiver was ever
their issue of OAR, and I think that's why it's not,
you know, as much of a story like to me,
(18:56):
like the problem is the overall physitisicality of the team,
and I think their offensive line, you know, and and
and you look at the way that they've gotten beat.
It's not because they're not good enough on the outside.
When they've gotten beat, and they've gotten beat and soundly
a couple of times now, it's been because San Francisco
pushed them around. It's been because Tennessee pushed them around.
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And so, you know, I don't think that the you know,
OBJ like kind of fading into the background here is
about like, you know, a total failure of the experiment
with the Rams. I think it can still work, and
I think there's a place for him, especially now that
Robert Woods isn't healthy. I think more so it's the
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Rams had other issues and this sort of maybe just
distracted us from our from their other issues that we've
seen come up again in games against teams like the
Titans and the nine Ers. Albert Brier joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio, the MMQB senior NFL reporter good
him on Twitter at Albert Brier, Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington
with you here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, So
I want to ask, because you've covered and spent a
(20:01):
lot of time obviously in the Boston area growing up there,
living in and around the area. You covered the New
England Patriots for a long long time exclusively and now
obviously on a national scale, where does the performance that
Bill Belichick is putting on who not not to wash
my own balls here, but I would just like to
point out I said weeks ago he should be Coach
(20:22):
of the Year. Now he's the odds on favorite. Where
does this performance this year and especially what he did
Monday night rank for you in the time he spent
there in New England with the Patriots? Well, what's up there?
I mean, you know, like being able to do this
and rebuilding the fly this way coming that he has
this year. I you know, I think it's it's there
(20:46):
a few years where you look at the roster he
ad and it's like, wow, how do you do that?
Like in two thousand and six, you know, their team
had gotten a little bit older and they had no receivers.
I mean they lost then branch, they lost David Gibbons,
and they went to the AFC Title game in twenty eleven.
The defense was just a dumpster fire and they went
to the Super Bowl. So we've seen him, you know,
(21:09):
beyond just the championship years, the Super Bowl years. We've
seen him, you know, turn tricks like that before. I
think what's so impressive about this one. Was so impressive
about this one is being able to basically rebuild the
roster on the fly, and not just rebuild the roster
on the fly, but do it in such a coherent
(21:30):
and complete way. And I mean, I think you could
make the argument they had one of the worst rosters
in football last year in twenty twenty. And to be
able to nail his draft picks, nail his free agents,
and not just you know, get that right, but also
have like this bigger picture feel for how everything fit together.
I think it's just it's so impressive and you can
(21:52):
see it. Guys. Like you know, like a lot of
people like to talk about analytics and football, all it
is is finding inefficiencies. Right Well, now in the NFL,
you're seeing more defenses that are built to rush and cover.
That means two hundred and twenty pound linebackers, two hundred
and forty pound pass rushers, you know, guys who were
probably natural corners playing safety. You know, Bill Belichick's decided decided,
(22:14):
I'm gonna have three hundred and twenty pound guards, I'm
gonna have I'm gonna have two hundred and thirty pound tailbacks,
and I'm gonna run right at that. And we sought
the other night again, you know. And so I just
think the combination of being able to fix the roster,
being able to put together a roster that made sense,
the pieces fit together, and then, you know, at the
(22:35):
same time, being able to counteract what's going on in football.
I think it's been incredibly impressive. And I guess another
feather in a cap that's got a lot of feathers
in there already. Is this a Super Bowl contending Patriots team?
Are they the favorite now? On AFC side? Wellvar do
you watch Alabama on Saturday? All right? So, do you
(22:59):
know how like this year we've all been kind of like, ah,
they don't quite look the same, I don't know, and
then Saturday startup, Notice, Oh there they are, that's them right.
Then they're bigger and stronger and fastening everybody else? Could
that be the Chiefs? Like, could this be like us,
(23:19):
like all wasting our breath the last three months, and
all of a sudden they're playing really good defense. And
then like in two weeks from now, all of a sudden,
it's playoff time and we're getting close. And wow, Patrick
Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes again. I just think, like I
look at them AFC right and I think the Patriots
maybe still be like a year away from a roster
standpoint where they want to be. Baltimore is incredibly beat
(23:42):
up whilst both they're running backs, whist they're left tackle,
They're down their top two corners. Tennessee is really beat
up at receiver obviously Derrick Henry being out. It feels
like the conference is still like wide open, but yet
you still have like Alabama sitting there. I hate like
so like I think the Patriots. I think the Patriots
(24:04):
are a real contender to get there. I just think
that there's this Chiefs team sitting in the AFC where,
if the offense finds its way again, I think they
have a chance to shut the lights out on everybody. Hey, Albert,
you're talking to the wrong guy because LaVar hates the
Kansas City Chiefs, so I don't try the wrong guy.
I don't hate them, I just don't trust them. I
(24:27):
think that there's something I don't trust them. I just
I don't. I think if you were going to figure
it out, you'd figure it out about now. And although
I liked your analogy, I thought it hit home pretty good.
I just think that Alabama is always a threat to
be more than what they are in even in down years.
I just don't I don't see that being the case.
(24:49):
And in the pros, I just don't. And I just
don't see how a team goes from barely being able
to break twenty points in in a lot of the
games to now they're like this offensive juggernaut again. I
just I don't see it. See. I think the thing
of the thing about Sami LaVar, though, is the defense
has played really well. And I think in the over
(25:13):
analysis and the analysis of what's happened to them offensively,
like I almost look at it like are they learning
to win a different way because they have to write? Right?
And are they are they going to be stronger in
the long term because of it? Like that defense right
and it's really good players in the defense too, like
Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Tyrone Matthew those are legit guys, right,
(25:37):
and they've got some good young players like Legarius Sneed
growing now. Well, that defense over the last couple of
years never really had to carry them, right, and so
I just think having that experience now they've over the
last month, if they've been the group the sort of
had to dig the team out of the rut. If
the offense gets this acting, wouldn't I mean, wouldn't stand
(25:59):
the reason like that? Now all of a sudden, you're
talking about like a team that might be able to
elevate to another level from where they've been in the
last two years, Right, So I mean I don't know, Like,
maybe you're right. Maybe the office well here we'll think
about this though, Albert, to your point, name name a
prolific offense in the NFC this year that's putting up
(26:20):
crazy points. Name a prolific offense that's putting up a
ton of points in the AFC. Let's name, yeah, one, right,
there is some one I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking
about the NFC. Who an NFC is just a prolific offense.
I mean at times, Green Bay at times, at times,
Arizona at Okay, well, never mind, that's three twos, I think.
(26:46):
And the AFC. Though in the AFC you might be good. Yeah,
I mean I look at it, yeah, and I think,
like again, like if it continues to be now, Baltimore
to me, like I look at Baltimore and they're different
than the other teams because they're not getting their guys back,
right like Baltimore JK. Dobbins, Marlon Humphrey, Marcus Peters, Ronnie
(27:11):
those guys aren't coming back. So I look at them
and I'm saying, okay, like they're tough. No one's gonna
want to play them in January. But I don't know
if they's string three wins in a row. Like I
look at Tennessee. Tennessee they get that running back back
and now all of a sudden, like there's somebody who's
capable again, you know, And so like I think, as
(27:33):
long as things are sort of like this, like muddled mess,
I think the Patriots have a chance to beat anybody
because I think on any day, on any on any
game day, Bill Belichick can coach the guy on the
other sideline and can work around certain things. You know.
I just think that there are a few teams in
the AFC that have higher ceilings, and I think Kansas
(27:55):
City's won. I think I think Tennessee if they can
get healthy. There are another one Baltimore. Again, I don't
look at them quite the same way because so many
of those guys that I mentioned are coming back. Albert
the last one before I let you go, I know,
on your weekly mail bag for SI, you did you
know answered the question about Bryce Young and just the
opinion of him as far as NFL scouts go. He
(28:17):
looked obviously fantastic in the SEC Championship game. Brady Quinn's
been pounding the drum for him for months now because
he saw him in the spring game and said, this
guy's the real deal. Are we starting to get into
the Trevor Lawrence territory where we saw him so early
in his career and just said, man, just stay healthy
because when he's ready to go, this guy's going to
be a can't miss prospect in the NFL. Yeah. I mean,
(28:39):
I don't know if he's quite like Trevor Lawrence just
because he doesn't have a size and you know, if
you want to talk about nitpicking stuff. We're gonna be
nitpicking like his height, you know, in a year, in
a year, in a couple of months. Like it's gonna
be like with Kyler, you know, like is he stuffing?
Is he putting like lipts in his shoes before they
measure him? But I mean, like he's got everything else,
(29:02):
you know, I think he's he's one of these kids
where you know, and having talked to a couple of
guys and they haven't studied him yet, so like there's
gonna be like deeper guys that teams are gonna do
on him. But like at first glance, you know, teams
getting to look at him and seeing him on tape
when they're studying other players, live arm, competitive, sees the
field really well. Apparently he's a really good kid. Like
(29:24):
he's one of these guys where if he's got like
just about everything except for one thing, and the one
thing is going to be the size, but you know,
just athletic, like very very live arm for someone his size,
you know, and and and again sees the field really well,
has great command and is really competitive is probably I
(29:44):
mean what these guys have said to me in like
the little work I did over the course the last
few days, more town than Matt Jones or two a
tongue of Valoa. And so you know, both those guys
were first round picks. So I think we're we're definitely
you know, in a place right now. Well, we can
already start talking about him as a pretty sure thing
to go in the first round in twenty twenty three.
(30:05):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Brier. He is the
MMQB senior NFL reporter and he's always kind enough to
join us everything the week yere on FSR. Albert, We
appreciate it, man. Let's do it again next week. Thanks
very weekend, the Great Albert Brier. It's two pros and
a cup of Joe. Radio asked him how he felt
about Michigan heading into a massacre situation. He was a
(30:28):
little fired up last time we asked him, you know,
because we asked him, you know, on the heels of
Ohio State losing to Michigan. And one of the first
things he said was, you know, I mean they are
kind of celebrating it a lot, like it's kind of
going over the t It's like, well, you know, of course,
I mean they haven't beat Ohio State and you know
years so if they were, of course they were going
to celebrate it. But yeah, you do know that the
(30:50):
magical run has to come to an end. Well maybe not,
maybe not, who knows. I mean, Michigan live dog against
against Georgia. You don't think you don't think Michigan's got
an opportunity there A hard knocks. You know it gets
through all out here, man, it does. I hear the sticks.
You gotta stay warm. Sticks. You gotta put your big
(31:12):
bubble jacket on. If you you you gotta you gotta
try to stay stay stay warm against them Georgia bullo,
sticks and knocks. Throw off the X, baby, you're throwing
up the X right now? Ye throw up the X.
You need two more sets of arms so you could
get triple lets. You point all right? It is a
two pros and a cup of Joe LaVar Arrington Jonas
(31:33):
knocks with you here on FSR. Coming up next, somebody
made a decision regarding their future, and I feel like
there's gonna be some criticism heading their way. It's a
football story. We have it for you next year on FSR.
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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(31:57):
what's up everybody? It's me three time Pro Bowl Little
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(32:44):
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Here Fox Sports Radio minus Brady Quinn, that bastard. We
are going to take you all the way up until
nine am Eastern times Corrupt and dass Dylinger with your
west Side Bay was Hey, wasn't that to corrupt and
dazz Dilinger with naked. Yeah, how did you know that?
(33:06):
You know, man, listen to the streets. When you got
all that talent. Man, you could even do a rap
jam to to, you know, an old school song, you
know what I mean? Man, Like I'm so proud of
the Dog Pound, the DPG. You know what I'm Yeah,
I hear you, man, Yeah, yeah, it's real that here.
Do you know who's biggest beef was with Jonas when
(33:28):
he was rapping? Do you know Corrupt's biggest beef? Yeah? Rapper? Yeah,
do you know? I of course I know, of course
I know. Yeah. I think it was probably DMX. You
think it was DMX. Yeah, I put the X up,
you know what I mean? Sticks, DMX knocks, I mean,
axes are wild. I was about to say something real wild,
but I guess I won't. I won't word it that way.
But there's you know, he did data. A young lady
(33:51):
in the industry as well said sadly enough, she's not
here anymore. Sadly enough DMX isn't here anymore. And I
was gonna word that way differently. Yeah, yeah, but I refrain.
You know what, Sometimes you just put it back in
the holster, you know, like you got to just keep
the jokes. Whoa, whoa Jonas. He's got to keep slow
hard knocks Jonas like you keep it in the holster, brother,
(34:13):
keep it in the holster. Okay. By the way, coming
up in a little over ten minutes from now here
on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, We've got
an update on Thursday Night Football if you if you
play fantasy football or you're degenerate gambler, We've got an
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get to that here a little over ten minutes from
now on FSR. All right, so let me ask you
(34:34):
your thoughts because you've brought this up. The Cabon Thibodeaux
decision to want to talk about. Okay, you don't want
to talk about that one. No, I don't even want
to do it. Okay, Cabon Thibodeaux making the decision. Guy
who's been thought of as a really highly touted prospect,
mel Kiper, has been you know, all over the Cabon
(34:55):
Thibodeaux trade talking about, you know, best prospect in the draft.
Sort of an up and down year at Oregon. But
he is, you know, making the decision that looks like
he's going to be skipping the ball game. I know
that there are some people who feel really strongly about this.
You know, when Christian McCaffrey did it, he got some pushback.
When Leonard Fournette did it, he got some pushback. Where
(35:17):
does it land with you when you see a guy
like this make the decision to skip his bowl game?
And would you have done the same thing seeing that
you were a top two pick in the NFL draft
when you came out of pick well, I had the
opportunity to opt out if I wanted to. I had
a ton of I had a ton of incentive to
play in Ala Mobile for our last game at the
(35:42):
at the time, go figure this and now think about this.
In that time frame, Jerry Sandusky was a beloved, well
respected and just a super super guru of Penn State
football and it was going to be his last game.
Imagine that right, Imagine the turn of events since since
(36:03):
that time, I wanted to play. I wanted to play
because we wanted to honor honor our defensive coordinator and
send him out on on a high note. And a secondly,
for me, I was coming off of a shoulder injury
that I had sustained hitting uh Anthony Thomas h the
a train. We we we met in the hole in
(36:28):
my shoulder. While I looked like I got the better
of the hit and the play, my shoulder was all
messed up after after that that hit. So I wasn't
able to lift my arm up after that play. Yeah,
did you light him up like Steve Attwater did to
Christian Akoya back in the day. It was. It was
a smooth assassination. It was smooth, Yeah, it was. And
(36:54):
I mean we were downhill and we met like two
rams that bucked in the wild and he went down.
He went down on his back. I went down on
my front. But I didn't play the next week he did,
so I don't know you you worked that one out,
but you know, and they won that game, freaking Tom
(37:14):
Brady being anyway. So anyway, the point is is that
going into that Alamobile, I hadn't played in the h
I didn't play in the Michigan State game. T J.
Duckett ran for like two hundred yards against our defense,
So that left a bad taste in my mouth. Coming
out of the regular season, we had missed being able
to play for the National Championship, so I wanted to play,
(37:38):
so I had enough incentive to play. My mom messed
up my my announcement. I wasn't going to tell people
until a little bit after that I was declaring for
the draft. My mom was like, bump it, Like I'm
just telling the world, like my son's going pro, so
y'all better enjoy this game. But yeah, I mean, I
think nowadays, if you have a plan and you have
(37:59):
a STRATG and you're protecting your your planning your strategy,
I think that you got to do what's best for
you ultimately and what's best for your your family moving forward,
and with this new NIL stuff, hopefully that guys are
a little bit more incentivized and taking care of more
in a way where they're not really worrying about having
to sit out and and they're trying to enjoy their
(38:21):
college careers to the fullest, even to the end. Like
to me, I just think about legacy and what that
represents at Penn State for me, and I would never
want to ruin what that represented and and and opting
out kind of you kind of like take away that
endaring feeling from from the fan base where you went
to school, like your school is like kind of forever,
(38:43):
s your mom. Your mom gave out the announcement earlier. Yeah,
she gave it out. Yeah, my mom did something similar
to my brother, you know, so sort of similar. Brother
was trying to remember back in the day before caller
id s, somebody would just call and it was a
surprise who was going to be on the other end. Ye, So,
my brother I was trying to avoid a call from
a gal she called the house. As the phone was ringing,
(39:05):
he tells my mom in the kitchen, Hey, if it's
So and So, tell her I'm not here. My mom
answers the phone, and then it's the woman that he
was trying to avoid, and she says on the phone, Hey,
he told me to tell you he's not here. And
he ran down the hall like the cops were after him.
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