December 16, 2021 • 40 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to the firing of Urban Meyer, following Josh Lambo's story about being kicked in pregame warmups. Deion Sanders shocks the world by flipping top prospect Travis Hunter on Signing Day. Jackson Mahomes gets put in his place by a Kansas City bar and New Orleans passes on Super Bowl LVIII in favor of Mardi Gras.
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The Urban Meyer era in Jacksonville is a rap. Late
last night, the Jaguars made the decision that they were
firing their first year head coach Urban Meyer. This of
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course comes on the heels of Josh Lambo, a former
kicker who had, you know, some complaints about behavior from
Urban Meyer, said that he kicked him before a preseason
game getting ready to take on the Raiders. In August
reported this. Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times wrote
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about it, and then Josh Lambell also here. He was
on a in a one on one interview on First
Coast News in Jacksonville. I see Urban come up to
me out of the corner of my eye. He comes
up to me and he says, hey, dip another word,
make your f and kicks and then proceeds to kick
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me right in the leg, right in the hamstring um
also on the on the leg, on the hip that
kept me out for twelve games last year. And I
couldn't believe it happened. I looked up at him. I said,
don't you ever kick me again? I said, if there
is a source that persons out of a job, essentially,
I don't remember the exact quote, but that was in
essence what he said. And I don't think he can
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deny that. And that's what he did to me in August.
And it's just unacceptable to intimidate people into your narrative.
And now the reason for packing up about it is
because he's trying to shut everybody else up, and he
tried to shut me up once. I don't make sure
it doesn't happen again. Can you hear that? Let's say
what lav it's uh? If that gives you any indication
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of where this world is at. Kickers can dictate things
in football, Oh my god. And you know what, I'll
tell you what's even scarier are so athletics. That's not
an athlete. What's even scarier is to even talk about
it is so dangerous, Like that's the culture we live
in right now. To even to even make light of
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this is and to criticize this guy is dangerous, which
is crazy to me, Like and and listen, there will
always be people that say, well, maybe the way things
worked for you weren't actually correct, maybe they should have
been handled differently. You know, That's what makes it more legitimate,
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is that we were not as an enlightened as we
should be. But people like that that come out and
say things like that are are truly enlightened and are
truly you know that they've had their illuminating experiences in
their lives to be able to say, hey, don't you
kick me on my hamstring again. I will not allow
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for you to do that. Like the day that football
becomes a sport where a coach won't berate you like
I always say, one of the most interesting things like
I'm not one that subscribes to you know, cursing out
your your player and and and really using you know,
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tactics that are more aggressive, because I always say, if
we were in a different profession, you wouldn't talk to
me this way, and you wouldn't handle things this way.
But nonetheless it's a part of the culture. And and
while people will say, well maybe the culture should change,
well maybe something shouldn't change, right, Maybe some of you
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people that are soft served dough I should think about
doing other things. If if you can't handle a coach
calling you a dip ish right, and and you can't
handle him kicking you in the back of the leg
and telling you make the got damn kick because that
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is all you're good for, and you can't you can't
handle them saying that, let me tell you something, you
should hear of the other stories that are taking place
between players and coaches. If if if you, Mr Kicker,
believe that you were violated so vilely by urban Meyer
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telling you to make the kick, which, by the way,
you're a kicker. Like like, think about this. There is
only one position in football that you well to really,
which is the snapper, which is funny because that's a
special teams guy. Okay, three, here we go. The holder, right,
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which is the guy who holds the ball for for
the specialist. You have the kicker, and you have the punter,
which usually the holder and putter the same guy. So
usually the holder and putter the same guy. We don't
even we say wide receiver, we say running backs, like
like there's different. There are so many different meanings to
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to the other positions in in the game. While they
will tell you exactly where the player, maybe their their
duties and their responsibilities are vast. And so when you
think about a guy that comes out and he's now
considered to be the representation in the voice of what
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was taking place with urban Meyer and Jacksonville, I just
gotta be honest with y'all out there, and y'all may
get upset with me, you know, but that is not
a That is not an accurate representation of the voice
of that team. No that is. It's it's the furthest
thing from an accurate. That man is not rescuing the
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rest of the team. He's not leading them to freedom
out of bondage from Urban Meyer. He does not speak
for the rest of that locker room. I can assure
you that I've never been on a team where that
was the case, or a kicker wouldn't it. Because the
thing is the timeline of all this, this happened in August,
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and you're telling me that at no point in time
since then, nothing got enough play enough role. This is
this is what happened. And I think shot Con lied
to everyone. Shot Con I think one to fire urban
Meyer after the Ohio incident, the optics, everything else, and
maybe felt early on he made a mistake, but you
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know what he couldn't do. He couldn't fire him with
cause this rees surfaced again. And I wouldn't be shocked
if it wasn't a hit job from the inside with
all the stuff that was leaked out, coaches on the
staff that I can assure you were leaking stuff. Maybe
even someone on the front office side with a big title,
if you know what I mean. And I think this
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was one of those things that got whispered into shod
CON's here and they said, hey, you can get out
from underneath us with cause, you know what, like so
they could fire and they're not gonna have to pay
whatever it's there, or you pay a reduced amount through
a settlement. That's what this was about. They they eventually
felt like a shot Com must have felt like at
some point they wanted to move on and they needed
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to figure out a way out. And they realized after
the incident in Ohio. It wasn't enough. You weren't given
a fire Urban Mier with cause then, and now they
got a chance to because the Josh Lambeau this this
whole incident which again the NFL p A I didn't
hear them make a big fuss about it. And so
outside of this being reported, which happened months ago, we're
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now using that as caused to fire the guy. I
just none of it really makes sense as far as
the timeline of when the incident occurred and now the
decision that they're making. It's like the shot was shot
is completely unaware of this as an owner did Josh
Lambo just decided to try to pile on now with
everything else that was coming out, it's I don't even
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care that he's a kicker who made the accusations. To
Brady's point, none of it adds up. It doesn't make sense.
So so first of all, uh, in one of the reports,
it was Josh Lambo said, you know when he kicked me,
I said, don't have don't ever f and kick me again.
All Right, that's a bunch of crap. I can guarantee
you he didn't say that. Secondly, well, like he could
have been busting his balls. Urban my Er even denied it. Yes,
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and it's it's so when you hear this, there's a
reason why Josh Lambo is not theory. And and by
the way, that happened in August. He wasn't cut until
a couple of months later. And you want to know
why he was cut because he stunk out loud, He
missed his first three kicks, and he missed a couple
of p A T s if I'm not mistaken, and
he got beat out for the job. He went to Pittsburgh,
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got cut again. This sounds like a guy who butchered
his own performance, butchered his own job, got cut, and
then all these months later wants to come out and
start ratting people out and complaining because somebody was teasing
him a little bit in a pregame huddle. I never
played anywhere close to the level you guys played, but
I played in high school and this is so common.
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Coaches would come around and whip you in the back
of your helmets with their keys. They would come around
and pinch the back of your arms. And that happened
at media mediocre high school. About your face mask, I mean, Brady,
miss miss throwing interception, miss a couple of passes during
the game. What is the coach going to do? Grab
you about your your face, man, especially like high school college,
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grab you about your face mask and be like, come on, Brady,
get it. And again, here's why, here's why. This is
that part of you know, all the all the media,
everyone the outside wants to get an inside scoop in
the locker room. You can't handle the locker room. You
can't handle it. You can't handle it, like you can't
handle really the reality of football. And don't try to
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come into this world of football and say, way, it
needs to change, it needs don't say that because there's
a certain intensity. There's certain things that are being asked
of these players and of these coaches that you don't
understand unless you're in it. And that's the reality of
it is. You can't handle it because when it comes
down to it, I don't care if it's in football
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or anything else. When you get to those intense moments,
you start to see people acting out outside of their shell.
But this is just us getting a peek into something
that's not corporate America. It's not for social media, it's
not for all of this, it's what goes on in
the locker room in a brotherhood, and this what's supposed
to be a tight knit group that clearly came unwound
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because of again probably a desire by people on the
inside who didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
I went look, when Brett Mussberger came out and we
talked about and he said it was a professional hit
job on John Gruden, it was like, okay, yeah, but
he did say those things in the email, So I mean,
it's not like, you know, like fight what is the
fire Bowl offense for Urban Meyer? Because I just saw
somebody list something on a television in which they listed
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all his transgressions. Hired Chris Doyle as a strength coach. Okay,
you got rid of him. I saw somebody that by
the way, he didn't get rid of the guy was
signed because all the heat. Well, right, but I'm saying
he hired because of the job that he did. And
here's the other part about that. Are we just are
we done giving people a second chance in this world?
A man? Is that where we're at now? Like we're
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done giving people a second chance? And we can't say, well, hey,
a guy met Amidi a stake in the past, or
you know, maybe there are some allegations, but apparently nothing
is innocent to pro until proven guilty anymore. And then
are we just done giving people a second So okay,
Chris Doyle never coach every in the history of his life.
It from here on out. Like there's a lot of
players who are in defense of Chris Doyle. But but
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now you're all of a sudden you're gonna say, what, No,
he can never coach again. I mean that that's we're
willing to do it in some facets when we want
a second chance of some places and not anywhere else.
You tell me how unfair that is. It's ridiculous, and
you you list off his quote unquote transgressions, hires Chris Doyle.
People complained about the Tim Tebow stuff, the stuff that
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happened at the bar. Yeah, it was a bad look.
Is that a fireball offense guy made a mistake. He
apologized for it. Then you get these rats and snakes
that are in the locker room that that that dime
him out to the NFL network. By the way, one
of those reports Marvin Jones, who was listed as the
guy who walked out talked about it and said, yeah,
that's Bs. That's not how it happened. We had a
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conversation as men, that's not true. We discuss something, we
move on. I'm the elder statesman in the room. So
that was called out and that was pointed out that
it was BS. Brady. You mentioned it earlier this week,
Albert Briers talked about it on Twitter, said yeah, that
didn't happen. It is not true. And then you get
a report of a guy who took a little bit
of teasing the wrong way, and then and then all
of that totals up to urban Meyer losing his job.
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And I ask you this, if they've got a winning record,
is he getting fired not happening? And if that incident
in Ohio and the bar hadn't happened, is any of
this a fire bull offense to put it's a bunch
of crap. This is all crap people that wanted to
jump on and we said it two days ago. They
had an agenda coming into this. They didn't like the
fact that he was in the league. They wanted him
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out because people were still piste off about the way
he handled his roster, whether it be at Florida and
the guys that were on that team. Whatever happened with
this coaching staff, for the players and the characters at
Ohio State, it's a bunch of crap. If Brett Musburger
thinks it was a smear job on John Gruden, what
the hell do you call this? It's ridiculous. I'll say this.
And it's interesting because it's like, I guess, I guess
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Lambeau has put himself in uh position to do a
tell all book, you know, dropping drop. I wonder if
it's media is not gonna hire him. Lifetime will do
a docuseries on the life of Lambeau and and and
release that. And here's here's what I'll say, right if
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there was an offense and I think I said this
on the show, uh maybe yesterday. When in the locker room,
when there is when there is such unrest going on
with the team, the team like to think that we're
Neanderthals that don't have feelings, that don't know how you know,
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we're not in the locker room like like we speak
English people, we we know how to communicate with one another.
We we understand what an abusive situation feels like. We
understand what what looking out for one another and and
actually imagine this, We actually understand that with the coaching staff,
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we understand that, with the scouts, the media, the ownership,
we actually understand these things. Like there's this thing called comprehension.
And I know it might sound like I'm being like
a jerk or or you know, condescending, but for some
strange reason, I just always feel weird when conversations start
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to go down the lane where our i Q and
our mental i Q of our emotional i Q s
now fall to the wayside. If there was if if
urban Meyer was being an aggressive, abusive person to to
the degree of what this guy is saying, the team
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would have handled that. The team would have came to
that Kickers defense and been like, ay, urban chill, bro chill,
Like that's enough, Like we're good here. The team would
have put least that situation. So to sit there and
and go rogue the way that this dude did and
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for it to be a lynch pin of sorts to
be the conversational point that pivots all of this towards
the right direction of urban Meyer isn't the right person
for the job. Look at this team's success rate as
of late. Look at where this franchise currently sits and
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its success and and what it's doing. You can single
out Urban Meyer if you want to and say he
wasn't the answer for the job, that's fine, But to
try to character assassinate the man on sending them out
with something that's feeble is this that's a feeble minded
person that came out with those quotes. He's feeble minded, simple,
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He's a simpleton. And for that to be the representation
that Jacksonville is lee meaning on, I think that that
tells you everything you need to know about this organization
and why they can't win. This function has a way
of showing its ugly as fates in so many different ways.
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And now we've just seen another from a dysfunctional organization.
You know what the irony is. So now Darryl Bevil
takes over as their interim head coach. Shot CON's in
trusting the coaching staff that not only narked on their
own head coach, or at least I shouldn't say everyone.
There's obviously a couple of members in particular, but he's
entrusting like that. They're so upset of lack of development
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for Trevor Lawrence, who do you think was coaching him? Like?
Who do you who do you think that lack of
development came from. It wasn't Urban Meyer, you hired him
as more of a CEO type. It was the staff.
And so what do you think he was standing in
the way of his staff being able to do its job.
He wasn't up there drawing next. He doesn't have an
offensive playbook. It's Daryl Bevil, It's Brian Schoenheimer. If you're
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upset about the lack of development of Trevor Lawrence, go
look the guys. You just one of them. You just
how does the intern head coach? I mean, that's the
reality of this. You're turning in and trusting over to
a staff of coaches that if you're frusted with the result,
there was big a piece that as anyone else. It's
the whole thing is just it's it's crazy. It is
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Just the soothing tones of Christmas Music following a red
hot controversial segment here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. I mean just just feel so good, just
so good. I just I love the holidays. Don't you
know who is this singing? By the way, is the Sinatra?
Is it corn? Right? Sinatra? Frank Sinatra? Hey? Berto? Did
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say Fernandez do any Christmas music? Yeah? I do it right.
I bet your Sinatra didn't like Kickers either. Just a
wild guest. You know what's funny? Hey, Brady, I love
how how sissies love to say you've taken too many
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hits to your head, Like, my head is just fine.
Believe you me, My my i Q is intact. I'm
I'm I'm okay, I operate out of You should say
to them, you know what, maybe you're right. Let me
pound you in the head a little bit and we'll
see how you how you experience that you feel because
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I feel fine, but let me let me let you
share a little bite of that. I feel fine. I
just I think it's so funny how in one instance
you can be somebody's biggest hero, like like the d
bag that sat there and and and says, oh, well,
maybe it's the shooting at your your restaurant. I had
nothing to do with that shooting at my restaurant, Like
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I wasn't even there. It actually happened in the parking lot. Yeah,
I mean, you know, go figure, somebody was shooting in
front of my restaurant. Uh. Me getting hits in my head.
It's like it's okay for a guy. Oh he's a
pro bowler. I want to buy his his Trader card.
I want to buy his jury. See, I wanna I
wanna be like I want my kid to be like
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this guy. I think this guy is amazing. And then
on the other side of it's like you've taken too
many hits to your head, your your your brain is
using out of your air, Like what's wrong with you? Like, guys,
if you don't want to listen to what we have
to say, there are so many other stations that you
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can switch to and get watered down versions of conversations
that make you comfortable and make you feel good about yourself.
This just doesn't happen to be that forum. I'm not
here to try to make you feel good about yourself.
I get paid to give an opinion about what it
is that I see, and I gave it, and I'm
actually looking at how we handle things, and I really
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think that we should actually be commended for giving you
the truth instead of you know, fluffing jobs up and
and and doing like, oh we should right, come fluff anyway. Yeah, care,
here's the problem. You can't have a different opinion than anybody,
because if you do, there's something wrong with you. That's
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where we're at. You can't have a different opinion. I
just think it's the silliness of how people try to
make sense of things and then go to social media
and think that you can, like, if you were as
dope as you thought you were, you would probably be
sitting here and I would be sitting there, and we
would be having roles reversed in terms of how we interact.
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But just understand you're sitting where you're sitting for a reason.
We're also probably kickers, by the way, you know what. Honest,
in their dreams they were, they probably to Jonas point
over three and then five for seven from extra points.
Uh but but but now and then and then, by
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the way, still was on the roster. And the only
reason he got cut is because Matthew Wright hit that
fifty something yard field goal in London that won the
first game, and they just started to part ways. Then
he went to Pittsburgh, got cut again. But now all
of a sudden, we're gonna go ahead, and now we're
gonna dime out urban Meyer for pregame stretch routines. Don't
let the facts get the way your feelings. Now, folks,
All right, guys, getting cut is going to start to
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be a punishable offense. He cut, They cut me that,
you know what. He came up to me and practice
he said, hey, you better use that leg to make
Faield gold or we're gonna cut you. And you know
what they did, Brady. You know what they did, Jonas.
They cut me. They cut me from the team primary purpose.
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And by the way, if urban Meyer was really out
to physically abuse someone, and I loved how the media
ran with it yesterday, unbelievable tool job work by the
media on social media. If urban Meyer really was going
to abuse somebody and kick them, would he really do
it in pregame stretches before a preseason game, like with everybody,
everyone can see. Everyone was out there for everyone to see.
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None of an makes sense. But because people had an
agenda coming into it, they were looking for any reason
to go, oh, this is it. This is the one. Like,
none of it made sense at all. This the whole
thing is just mind boggling. I hope Jacksonville loses every
single game this season. You know. The sad thing is
about that they would still be more successful than they
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were a year ago without them, So there you go.
It's just at least one double the amount of games
and in thirteen games. Maybe. By the way, and maybe
the conspiracy theory to this is, you know, they got
to a point. Urban's like, well, I'm thirteen games into
this thing. That's about how many you play in college.
I'm good. Yeah, you guys want to kill your way,
I'll go my separate Ricky Wall, little Rocky Wall. I
mean that's uh, it just this, this is crazy, all right.
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It's a two pros to cup of Joe moving on.
Maybe some of you won't be able to move on
with your laws, but you know what we're getting paid
to move on with. As on those radio about that,
you bet your sweet ass. Coming up about twelve minutes
from now, one of the biggest non obs in all
of sports, who also has a close connection to one
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of the hottest teams and all of sports, got absolutely embarrassed,
absolutely taken to the wood shed. We will give you
all the juicy details to that coming up here at
twelve minutes from now on fs are So we spoke
about somebody else getting burned. I don't know if anybody
saw the the hat selection process for one Travis Hunter,
who's one of the top recruits a cornerback, uh coming
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out of high school making making his decision on where
he wanted to go. Everybody thought it was gonna be
Florida State, and then all of a sudden, he decided,
now we're gonna go ahead and pass. I'm gonna go
up with Florida State, but I'm gonna go with one
of the great Florida State alums, Dion Sanders, and Jackson
State ends up getting Travis Hunter, one of the top
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players and all of high school football. He d committed
he will sign with Jackson State and he is now
a member of team Sanders. There, how about that burn
job to Florida States. Deal man, that's a that's a
big deal, and it's one player, but that one player
represents a historic moment to to flip. I mean, Bray
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would would you say this? I mean, it's gotta possibly
be the biggest flip in the history of flips and
college sports. It is, but it's also a very unique scenario.
You've got arguably the greatest cornerback defensive back, however you
want to phrase hit in NFL history, as the head
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coach at an HBCU, that's the position Travis Hunter plays.
So I do wonder how much of the pitch was
a this is what you do. I'll show you the way,
I'll give you the keys, and I think we know this,
like wherever you go to college, now, if you're good enough,
they'll find you. You know, this isn't like years ago
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where it maybe it was a little bit more difficult
getting filmed. You have to travel and get out there
to the game. Seem in person like that stuff's not
harder to get anymore. And so you see a lot
of smaller school kids now finding their way onto NFL rosters.
I mean, the last recruit that was even close to
this high of a ranked player was Dominic Rogers camardi
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Um as far as like where he kind of came
from and everything else and and going that route. But
I do wonder how much of it had to do
with Deon Sanders, you know, being there at Jackson State,
and that leads me to then, well, what happens if
he leaves? I mean, like like unfortunately as big of
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a moment as this is for smaller schools in comparison
to the Group of fives, and like the flip and
how Florida State feels about it all that if if
Deon Sanders leaves to take a Power five job, which
he almost had the TCU job this year he was
in the running for that. He was the coach of
the year in his league. Yeah, they're all going with him,
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like you got the transfer portals, So it looks cool
and it's all good now, and and Travis Hunter can say, hey,
this is historic and I wanted to be about this,
But the second Deon leaves, I'm just saying, I wonder
if they're all gonna go with him, and and and
the other thing. The last thing I'll just say is
if if the final pitch, Because Deon Sanders went on
with Barstool Sports and he said, we're gonna shock the world,
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all right. He knew and this is where it gets
a little bit muddy. He knew that there was an
n I L deal with Barstool Sports for Travis Hunter.
Here's the problem with that, folks. You cannot facilitate a
deal as part of a university head coach and you
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can't be a part of any part of it. And
it sounds like he knew and was privy to and
given his relationship with Barstool, probably helped facilitate that deal
that is quoted or reportedly in the millions. So two
five during the course of his time, I'm there, okay,
So there you go. Two point five and a half
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million cheese. It's open over the whole another conversation. That
opens up a whole another conversation because you're a hundred
percent right with the facilitation of the situation. And he
could say he didn't have anything to do with the
facilitating of it, and and he would be rightfully so
to do that. Uh, but at the end of the
end of the day, we all know that has something
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to do with it. I mean it correctly with bar Stool,
and he had to have went to them and said, hey,
let's change the let's do something different, let's change the world.
And you know, a bar stool, you'll sign up for that,
a harpiea because it gives them pub on the backside
of it. Now they could direct access into Dion Sanders
and all, they've already had direct access and all right,
(30:47):
I think they're doing like a documentary on his team exactly.
They have follow him around and so so that only
plays into it more when you can then get the
top or a top recruit as part of it. And
so you're you're kind of working with each other feeding,
you know, feeding each other with all of this, and
that's where it's like it's hard to believe that there
wasn't any prior knowledge anything, you know, any facilitating going on,
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at least to entice Travis Hunter to go there. I
think the interesting aspect of that in this conversational point
is that everything is being dictated by Prime everything, because
that's all they have. What else is Jackson State going
to leverage nothing. You're not going to leverage the historical
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value of the school. You're not going to leverage who
came from that school. There's nothing to leverage. So when
Dion went there, let me tell you something about Dion
Sanders Prime did it is about perfectly as you could
possibly do it. All right. He started with truth youth.
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He basically raised his workforce. He raised them, he had
them since they were kids. Then he becomes a very
very figure in launching the Under Armour All American Game.
Then he's a main stay there for all them years.
He's built relationships with all the guys that are playing
on Sundays now that have played on Saturdays all those years.
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So now he's doing in high school level. Now, he
has a private school that's a high school school, and
he's getting kids of the caliber and the level that
are good enough to play in the under Armor All
American Game. Oh then he goes to college to go coach, which,
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by the way, he keeps his name relevant the entire
time because he's been a stalwarth in, the main stay
in media since the beginning of the entire deal. So
now he understands the media side of it, he understands
the connection to the communities and to the kids side
of it, and he has leveraged it to the hilt.
So where we're at right now, even if it's not
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bar Stool, it's gonna be Ford, it's gonna be Chevy,
it's going to be Subway, it's gonna be Discover if
there is going this is only the tip of the
iceberg in terms of the influence that Dion is going
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to have. It will almost virtually be impossible to tag
Dion as the facilitator, even though you you know, without
a doubt he's the facilitator. But it's gonna be so
many companies that want to get into bed with what
Dion is doing and think about where we are in
our culture right now. Right it's it's the underserved community
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that in communities that matter, it's the social justice that matters.
It's the equality that matters. So all of these companies
we've been seeing looking to throw their dollars at at
issues that have have now become prevalent issues being discussed
in our society today. You are going to want to
get that feel good content and that story. And Dion
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knows it, and he's leveraging it to the hilt brilliantly
by taking top, top rated prospects and telling them, come here.
I'll get you to the league because, as you mentioned, Brady,
they will find the talent. But then also on top
of that, who has the connections to to these companies
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like I do. These people want to represent me, They're
gonna want to represent you because they want to represent me.
Come here and you'll get those opportunities to be able
to monetize yourself as you're going through your college career.
I don't have to make the deal for you. Just
come play for prime I can guarantee you Prime Time
is gonna put you in the right time, in the
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right space to be able to get what it is
that you deserve. He's gonna use that every single time.
It's just a matter how many guys are gonna go
for it and what's that gonna lead to? Because if
he gets too big, then now the question becomes, you
made Jackson State this big off of what you're doing,
what type of investigations are going to take place? Because
that's always what happens. Right you have success, there's always
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going to be something or someone that tries to bring
it down. So it's like what ensues or will he
be gone? As you mentioned, I mean, he might be gone,
he might end up at Florida State, he might end
up at one of these top power five schools. It's
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The Urban Meyer era in Jacksonville is a rap. Late
last night, the Jaguars made the decision that they were
firing their first year head coach Urban Meyer. This of
(01:49):
course comes on the heels of Josh Lambo, a former
kicker who had, you know, some complaints about behavior from
Urban Meyer, said that he kicked him before a preseason
game getting ready to take on the Raiders. In August
reported this. Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times wrote
(02:10):
about it, and then Josh Lambell also here. He was
on a in a one on one interview on First
Coast News in Jacksonville. I see Urban come up to
me out of the corner of my eye. He comes
up to me and he says, hey, dip another word,
make your f and kicks and then proceeds to kick
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me right in the leg, right in the hamstring um
also on the on the leg, on the hip that
kept me out for twelve games last year. And I
couldn't believe it happened. I looked up at him. I said,
don't you ever kick me again? I said, if there
is a source that persons out of a job, essentially,
I don't remember the exact quote, but that was in
essence what he said. And I don't think he can
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deny that. And that's what he did to me in August.
And it's just unacceptable to intimidate people into your narrative.
And now the reason for packing up about it is
because he's trying to shut everybody else up, and he
tried to shut me up once. I don't make sure
it doesn't happen again. Can you hear that? Let's say
what lav it's uh? If that gives you any indication
(03:11):
of where this world is at. Kickers can dictate things
in football, Oh my god. And you know what, I'll
tell you what's even scarier are so athletics. That's not
an athlete. What's even scarier is to even talk about
it is so dangerous, Like that's the culture we live
in right now. To even to even make light of
(03:34):
this is and to criticize this guy is dangerous, which
is crazy to me, Like and and listen, there will
always be people that say, well, maybe the way things
worked for you weren't actually correct, maybe they should have
been handled differently. You know, That's what makes it more legitimate,
(03:58):
is that we were not as an enlightened as we
should be. But people like that that come out and
say things like that are are truly enlightened and are
truly you know that they've had their illuminating experiences in
their lives to be able to say, hey, don't you
kick me on my hamstring again. I will not allow
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for you to do that. Like the day that football
becomes a sport where a coach won't berate you like
I always say, one of the most interesting things like
I'm not one that subscribes to you know, cursing out
your your player and and and really using you know,
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tactics that are more aggressive, because I always say, if
we were in a different profession, you wouldn't talk to
me this way, and you wouldn't handle things this way.
But nonetheless it's a part of the culture. And and
while people will say, well maybe the culture should change,
well maybe something shouldn't change, right, Maybe some of you
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people that are soft served dough I should think about
doing other things. If if you can't handle a coach
calling you a dip ish right, and and you can't
handle him kicking you in the back of the leg
and telling you make the got damn kick because that
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is all you're good for, and you can't you can't
handle them saying that, let me tell you something, you
should hear of the other stories that are taking place
between players and coaches. If if if you, Mr Kicker,
believe that you were violated so vilely by urban Meyer
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telling you to make the kick, which, by the way,
you're a kicker. Like like, think about this. There is
only one position in football that you well to really,
which is the snapper, which is funny because that's a
special teams guy. Okay, three, here we go. The holder, right,
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which is the guy who holds the ball for for
the specialist. You have the kicker, and you have the punter,
which usually the holder and putter the same guy. So
usually the holder and putter the same guy. We don't
even we say wide receiver, we say running backs, like
like there's different. There are so many different meanings to
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to the other positions in in the game. While they
will tell you exactly where the player, maybe their their
duties and their responsibilities are vast. And so when you
think about a guy that comes out and he's now
considered to be the representation in the voice of what
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was taking place with urban Meyer and Jacksonville, I just
gotta be honest with y'all out there, and y'all may
get upset with me, you know, but that is not
a That is not an accurate representation of the voice
of that team. No that is. It's it's the furthest
thing from an accurate. That man is not rescuing the
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rest of the team. He's not leading them to freedom
out of bondage from Urban Meyer. He does not speak
for the rest of that locker room. I can assure
you that I've never been on a team where that
was the case, or a kicker wouldn't it. Because the
thing is the timeline of all this, this happened in August,
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and you're telling me that at no point in time
since then, nothing got enough play enough role. This is
this is what happened. And I think shot Con lied
to everyone. Shot Con I think one to fire urban
Meyer after the Ohio incident, the optics, everything else, and
maybe felt early on he made a mistake, but you
(07:55):
know what he couldn't do. He couldn't fire him with
cause this rees surfaced again. And I wouldn't be shocked
if it wasn't a hit job from the inside with
all the stuff that was leaked out, coaches on the
staff that I can assure you were leaking stuff. Maybe
even someone on the front office side with a big title,
if you know what I mean. And I think this
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was one of those things that got whispered into shod
CON's here and they said, hey, you can get out
from underneath us with cause, you know what, like so
they could fire and they're not gonna have to pay
whatever it's there, or you pay a reduced amount through
a settlement. That's what this was about. They they eventually
felt like a shot Com must have felt like at
some point they wanted to move on and they needed
(08:39):
to figure out a way out. And they realized after
the incident in Ohio. It wasn't enough. You weren't given
a fire Urban Mier with cause then, and now they
got a chance to because the Josh Lambeau this this
whole incident which again the NFL p A I didn't
hear them make a big fuss about it. And so
outside of this being reported, which happened months ago, we're
(09:00):
now using that as caused to fire the guy. I
just none of it really makes sense as far as
the timeline of when the incident occurred and now the
decision that they're making. It's like the shot was shot
is completely unaware of this as an owner did Josh
Lambo just decided to try to pile on now with
everything else that was coming out, it's I don't even
(09:24):
care that he's a kicker who made the accusations. To
Brady's point, none of it adds up. It doesn't make sense.
So so first of all, uh, in one of the reports,
it was Josh Lambo said, you know when he kicked me,
I said, don't have don't ever f and kick me again.
All Right, that's a bunch of crap. I can guarantee
you he didn't say that. Secondly, well, like he could
have been busting his balls. Urban my Er even denied it. Yes,
(09:49):
and it's it's so when you hear this, there's a
reason why Josh Lambo is not theory. And and by
the way, that happened in August. He wasn't cut until
a couple of months later. And you want to know
why he was cut because he stunk out loud, He
missed his first three kicks, and he missed a couple
of p A T s if I'm not mistaken, and
he got beat out for the job. He went to Pittsburgh,
(10:09):
got cut again. This sounds like a guy who butchered
his own performance, butchered his own job, got cut, and
then all these months later wants to come out and
start ratting people out and complaining because somebody was teasing
him a little bit in a pregame huddle. I never
played anywhere close to the level you guys played, but
I played in high school and this is so common.
(10:33):
Coaches would come around and whip you in the back
of your helmets with their keys. They would come around
and pinch the back of your arms. And that happened
at media mediocre high school. About your face mask, I mean, Brady,
miss miss throwing interception, miss a couple of passes during
the game. What is the coach going to do? Grab
you about your your face, man, especially like high school college,
(10:54):
grab you about your face mask and be like, come on, Brady,
get it. And again, here's why, here's why. This is
that part of you know, all the all the media,
everyone the outside wants to get an inside scoop in
the locker room. You can't handle the locker room. You
can't handle it. You can't handle it, like you can't
handle really the reality of football. And don't try to
(11:16):
come into this world of football and say, way, it
needs to change, it needs don't say that because there's
a certain intensity. There's certain things that are being asked
of these players and of these coaches that you don't
understand unless you're in it. And that's the reality of
it is. You can't handle it because when it comes
down to it, I don't care if it's in football
(11:39):
or anything else. When you get to those intense moments,
you start to see people acting out outside of their shell.
But this is just us getting a peek into something
that's not corporate America. It's not for social media, it's
not for all of this, it's what goes on in
the locker room in a brotherhood, and this what's supposed
to be a tight knit group that clearly came unwound
(12:00):
because of again probably a desire by people on the
inside who didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
I went look, when Brett Mussberger came out and we
talked about and he said it was a professional hit
job on John Gruden, it was like, okay, yeah, but
he did say those things in the email, So I mean,
it's not like, you know, like fight what is the
fire Bowl offense for Urban Meyer? Because I just saw
somebody list something on a television in which they listed
(12:21):
all his transgressions. Hired Chris Doyle as a strength coach. Okay,
you got rid of him. I saw somebody that by
the way, he didn't get rid of the guy was
signed because all the heat. Well, right, but I'm saying
he hired because of the job that he did. And
here's the other part about that. Are we just are
we done giving people a second chance in this world?
A man? Is that where we're at now? Like we're
(12:44):
done giving people a second chance? And we can't say, well, hey,
a guy met Amidi a stake in the past, or
you know, maybe there are some allegations, but apparently nothing
is innocent to pro until proven guilty anymore. And then
are we just done giving people a second So okay,
Chris Doyle never coach every in the history of his life.
It from here on out. Like there's a lot of
players who are in defense of Chris Doyle. But but
(13:05):
now you're all of a sudden you're gonna say, what, No,
he can never coach again. I mean that that's we're
willing to do it in some facets when we want
a second chance of some places and not anywhere else.
You tell me how unfair that is. It's ridiculous, and
you you list off his quote unquote transgressions, hires Chris Doyle.
People complained about the Tim Tebow stuff, the stuff that
(13:25):
happened at the bar. Yeah, it was a bad look.
Is that a fireball offense guy made a mistake. He
apologized for it. Then you get these rats and snakes
that are in the locker room that that that dime
him out to the NFL network. By the way, one
of those reports Marvin Jones, who was listed as the
guy who walked out talked about it and said, yeah,
that's Bs. That's not how it happened. We had a
(13:46):
conversation as men, that's not true. We discuss something, we
move on. I'm the elder statesman in the room. So
that was called out and that was pointed out that
it was BS. Brady. You mentioned it earlier this week,
Albert Briers talked about it on Twitter, said yeah, that
didn't happen. It is not true. And then you get
a report of a guy who took a little bit
of teasing the wrong way, and then and then all
of that totals up to urban Meyer losing his job.
(14:09):
And I ask you this, if they've got a winning record,
is he getting fired not happening? And if that incident
in Ohio and the bar hadn't happened, is any of
this a fire bull offense to put it's a bunch
of crap. This is all crap people that wanted to
jump on and we said it two days ago. They
had an agenda coming into this. They didn't like the
fact that he was in the league. They wanted him
(14:29):
out because people were still piste off about the way
he handled his roster, whether it be at Florida and
the guys that were on that team. Whatever happened with
this coaching staff, for the players and the characters at
Ohio State, it's a bunch of crap. If Brett Musburger
thinks it was a smear job on John Gruden, what
the hell do you call this? It's ridiculous. I'll say this.
And it's interesting because it's like, I guess, I guess
(14:51):
Lambeau has put himself in uh position to do a
tell all book, you know, dropping drop. I wonder if
it's media is not gonna hire him. Lifetime will do
a docuseries on the life of Lambeau and and and
release that. And here's here's what I'll say, right if
(15:13):
there was an offense and I think I said this
on the show, uh maybe yesterday. When in the locker room,
when there is when there is such unrest going on
with the team, the team like to think that we're
Neanderthals that don't have feelings, that don't know how you know,
(15:35):
we're not in the locker room like like we speak
English people, we we know how to communicate with one another.
We we understand what an abusive situation feels like. We
understand what what looking out for one another and and
actually imagine this, We actually understand that with the coaching staff,
(15:58):
we understand that, with the scouts, the media, the ownership,
we actually understand these things. Like there's this thing called comprehension.
And I know it might sound like I'm being like
a jerk or or you know, condescending, but for some
strange reason, I just always feel weird when conversations start
(16:20):
to go down the lane where our i Q and
our mental i Q of our emotional i Q s
now fall to the wayside. If there was if if
urban Meyer was being an aggressive, abusive person to to
the degree of what this guy is saying, the team
(16:43):
would have handled that. The team would have came to
that Kickers defense and been like, ay, urban chill, bro chill,
Like that's enough, Like we're good here. The team would
have put least that situation. So to sit there and
and go rogue the way that this dude did and
(17:07):
for it to be a lynch pin of sorts to
be the conversational point that pivots all of this towards
the right direction of urban Meyer isn't the right person
for the job. Look at this team's success rate as
of late. Look at where this franchise currently sits and
(17:28):
its success and and what it's doing. You can single
out Urban Meyer if you want to and say he
wasn't the answer for the job, that's fine, But to
try to character assassinate the man on sending them out
with something that's feeble is this that's a feeble minded
person that came out with those quotes. He's feeble minded, simple,
(17:52):
He's a simpleton. And for that to be the representation
that Jacksonville is lee meaning on, I think that that
tells you everything you need to know about this organization
and why they can't win. This function has a way
of showing its ugly as fates in so many different ways.
(18:13):
And now we've just seen another from a dysfunctional organization.
You know what the irony is. So now Darryl Bevil
takes over as their interim head coach. Shot CON's in
trusting the coaching staff that not only narked on their
own head coach, or at least I shouldn't say everyone.
There's obviously a couple of members in particular, but he's
entrusting like that. They're so upset of lack of development
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for Trevor Lawrence, who do you think was coaching him? Like?
Who do you who do you think that lack of
development came from. It wasn't Urban Meyer, you hired him
as more of a CEO type. It was the staff.
And so what do you think he was standing in
the way of his staff being able to do its job.
He wasn't up there drawing next. He doesn't have an
offensive playbook. It's Daryl Bevil, It's Brian Schoenheimer. If you're
(18:56):
upset about the lack of development of Trevor Lawrence, go
look the guys. You just one of them. You just
how does the intern head coach? I mean, that's the
reality of this. You're turning in and trusting over to
a staff of coaches that if you're frusted with the result,
there was big a piece that as anyone else. It's
the whole thing is just it's it's crazy. It is
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Just the soothing tones of Christmas Music following a red
hot controversial segment here on Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. I mean just just feel so good, just
so good. I just I love the holidays. Don't you
know who is this singing? By the way, is the Sinatra?
Is it corn? Right? Sinatra? Frank Sinatra? Hey? Berto? Did
(20:34):
say Fernandez do any Christmas music? Yeah? I do it right.
I bet your Sinatra didn't like Kickers either. Just a
wild guest. You know what's funny? Hey, Brady, I love
how how sissies love to say you've taken too many
(20:59):
hits to your head, Like, my head is just fine.
Believe you me, My my i Q is intact. I'm
I'm I'm okay, I operate out of You should say
to them, you know what, maybe you're right. Let me
pound you in the head a little bit and we'll
see how you how you experience that you feel because
(21:20):
I feel fine, but let me let me let you
share a little bite of that. I feel fine. I
just I think it's so funny how in one instance
you can be somebody's biggest hero, like like the d
bag that sat there and and and says, oh, well,
maybe it's the shooting at your your restaurant. I had
nothing to do with that shooting at my restaurant, Like
(21:42):
I wasn't even there. It actually happened in the parking lot. Yeah,
I mean, you know, go figure, somebody was shooting in
front of my restaurant. Uh. Me getting hits in my head.
It's like it's okay for a guy. Oh he's a
pro bowler. I want to buy his his Trader card.
I want to buy his jury. See, I wanna I
wanna be like I want my kid to be like
(22:04):
this guy. I think this guy is amazing. And then
on the other side of it's like you've taken too
many hits to your head, your your your brain is
using out of your air, Like what's wrong with you? Like, guys,
if you don't want to listen to what we have
to say, there are so many other stations that you
(22:25):
can switch to and get watered down versions of conversations
that make you comfortable and make you feel good about yourself.
This just doesn't happen to be that forum. I'm not
here to try to make you feel good about yourself.
I get paid to give an opinion about what it
is that I see, and I gave it, and I'm
actually looking at how we handle things, and I really
(22:47):
think that we should actually be commended for giving you
the truth instead of you know, fluffing jobs up and
and and doing like, oh we should right, come fluff anyway. Yeah, care,
here's the problem. You can't have a different opinion than anybody,
because if you do, there's something wrong with you. That's
(23:08):
where we're at. You can't have a different opinion. I
just think it's the silliness of how people try to
make sense of things and then go to social media
and think that you can, like, if you were as
dope as you thought you were, you would probably be
sitting here and I would be sitting there, and we
would be having roles reversed in terms of how we interact.
(23:29):
But just understand you're sitting where you're sitting for a reason.
We're also probably kickers, by the way, you know what. Honest,
in their dreams they were, they probably to Jonas point
over three and then five for seven from extra points.
Uh but but but now and then and then, by
(23:50):
the way, still was on the roster. And the only
reason he got cut is because Matthew Wright hit that
fifty something yard field goal in London that won the
first game, and they just started to part ways. Then
he went to Pittsburgh, got cut again. But now all
of a sudden, we're gonna go ahead, and now we're
gonna dime out urban Meyer for pregame stretch routines. Don't
let the facts get the way your feelings. Now, folks,
All right, guys, getting cut is going to start to
(24:11):
be a punishable offense. He cut, They cut me that,
you know what. He came up to me and practice
he said, hey, you better use that leg to make
Faield gold or we're gonna cut you. And you know
what they did, Brady. You know what they did, Jonas.
They cut me. They cut me from the team primary purpose.
(24:36):
And by the way, if urban Meyer was really out
to physically abuse someone, and I loved how the media
ran with it yesterday, unbelievable tool job work by the
media on social media. If urban Meyer really was going
to abuse somebody and kick them, would he really do
it in pregame stretches before a preseason game, like with everybody,
everyone can see. Everyone was out there for everyone to see.
(24:59):
None of an makes sense. But because people had an
agenda coming into it, they were looking for any reason
to go, oh, this is it. This is the one. Like,
none of it made sense at all. This the whole
thing is just mind boggling. I hope Jacksonville loses every
single game this season. You know. The sad thing is
about that they would still be more successful than they
(25:21):
were a year ago without them, So there you go.
It's just at least one double the amount of games
and in thirteen games. Maybe. By the way, and maybe
the conspiracy theory to this is, you know, they got
to a point. Urban's like, well, I'm thirteen games into
this thing. That's about how many you play in college.
I'm good. Yeah, you guys want to kill your way,
I'll go my separate Ricky Wall, little Rocky Wall. I
mean that's uh, it just this, this is crazy, all right.
(25:44):
It's a two pros to cup of Joe moving on.
Maybe some of you won't be able to move on
with your laws, but you know what we're getting paid
to move on with. As on those radio about that,
you bet your sweet ass. Coming up about twelve minutes
from now, one of the biggest non obs in all
of sports, who also has a close connection to one
(26:05):
of the hottest teams and all of sports, got absolutely embarrassed,
absolutely taken to the wood shed. We will give you
all the juicy details to that coming up here at
twelve minutes from now on fs are So we spoke
about somebody else getting burned. I don't know if anybody
saw the the hat selection process for one Travis Hunter,
who's one of the top recruits a cornerback, uh coming
(26:27):
out of high school making making his decision on where
he wanted to go. Everybody thought it was gonna be
Florida State, and then all of a sudden, he decided,
now we're gonna go ahead and pass. I'm gonna go
up with Florida State, but I'm gonna go with one
of the great Florida State alums, Dion Sanders, and Jackson
State ends up getting Travis Hunter, one of the top
(26:47):
players and all of high school football. He d committed
he will sign with Jackson State and he is now
a member of team Sanders. There, how about that burn
job to Florida States. Deal man, that's a that's a
big deal, and it's one player, but that one player
represents a historic moment to to flip. I mean, Bray
(27:10):
would would you say this? I mean, it's gotta possibly
be the biggest flip in the history of flips and
college sports. It is, but it's also a very unique scenario.
You've got arguably the greatest cornerback defensive back, however you
want to phrase hit in NFL history, as the head
(27:31):
coach at an HBCU, that's the position Travis Hunter plays.
So I do wonder how much of the pitch was
a this is what you do. I'll show you the way,
I'll give you the keys, and I think we know this,
like wherever you go to college, now, if you're good enough,
they'll find you. You know, this isn't like years ago
(27:54):
where it maybe it was a little bit more difficult
getting filmed. You have to travel and get out there
to the game. Seem in person like that stuff's not
harder to get anymore. And so you see a lot
of smaller school kids now finding their way onto NFL rosters.
I mean, the last recruit that was even close to
this high of a ranked player was Dominic Rogers camardi
(28:15):
Um as far as like where he kind of came
from and everything else and and going that route. But
I do wonder how much of it had to do
with Deon Sanders, you know, being there at Jackson State,
and that leads me to then, well, what happens if
he leaves? I mean, like like unfortunately as big of
(28:35):
a moment as this is for smaller schools in comparison
to the Group of fives, and like the flip and
how Florida State feels about it all that if if
Deon Sanders leaves to take a Power five job, which
he almost had the TCU job this year he was
in the running for that. He was the coach of
the year in his league. Yeah, they're all going with him,
(28:58):
like you got the transfer portals, So it looks cool
and it's all good now, and and Travis Hunter can say, hey,
this is historic and I wanted to be about this,
But the second Deon leaves, I'm just saying, I wonder
if they're all gonna go with him, and and and
the other thing. The last thing I'll just say is
if if the final pitch, Because Deon Sanders went on
with Barstool Sports and he said, we're gonna shock the world,
(29:20):
all right. He knew and this is where it gets
a little bit muddy. He knew that there was an
n I L deal with Barstool Sports for Travis Hunter.
Here's the problem with that, folks. You cannot facilitate a
deal as part of a university head coach and you
(29:41):
can't be a part of any part of it. And
it sounds like he knew and was privy to and
given his relationship with Barstool, probably helped facilitate that deal
that is quoted or reportedly in the millions. So two
five during the course of his time, I'm there, okay,
So there you go. Two point five and a half
(30:04):
million cheese. It's open over the whole another conversation. That
opens up a whole another conversation because you're a hundred
percent right with the facilitation of the situation. And he
could say he didn't have anything to do with the
facilitating of it, and and he would be rightfully so
to do that. Uh, but at the end of the
end of the day, we all know that has something
(30:27):
to do with it. I mean it correctly with bar Stool,
and he had to have went to them and said, hey,
let's change the let's do something different, let's change the world.
And you know, a bar stool, you'll sign up for that,
a harpiea because it gives them pub on the backside
of it. Now they could direct access into Dion Sanders
and all, they've already had direct access and all right,
(30:47):
I think they're doing like a documentary on his team exactly.
They have follow him around and so so that only
plays into it more when you can then get the
top or a top recruit as part of it. And
so you're you're kind of working with each other feeding,
you know, feeding each other with all of this, and
that's where it's like it's hard to believe that there
wasn't any prior knowledge anything, you know, any facilitating going on,
(31:09):
at least to entice Travis Hunter to go there. I
think the interesting aspect of that in this conversational point
is that everything is being dictated by Prime everything, because
that's all they have. What else is Jackson State going
to leverage nothing. You're not going to leverage the historical
(31:30):
value of the school. You're not going to leverage who
came from that school. There's nothing to leverage. So when
Dion went there, let me tell you something about Dion
Sanders Prime did it is about perfectly as you could
possibly do it. All right. He started with truth youth.
(31:51):
He basically raised his workforce. He raised them, he had
them since they were kids. Then he becomes a very
very figure in launching the Under Armour All American Game.
Then he's a main stay there for all them years.
He's built relationships with all the guys that are playing
on Sundays now that have played on Saturdays all those years.
(32:12):
So now he's doing in high school level. Now, he
has a private school that's a high school school, and
he's getting kids of the caliber and the level that
are good enough to play in the under Armor All
American Game. Oh then he goes to college to go coach, which,
(32:33):
by the way, he keeps his name relevant the entire
time because he's been a stalwarth in, the main stay
in media since the beginning of the entire deal. So
now he understands the media side of it, he understands
the connection to the communities and to the kids side
of it, and he has leveraged it to the hilt.
So where we're at right now, even if it's not
(32:56):
bar Stool, it's gonna be Ford, it's gonna be Chevy,
it's going to be Subway, it's gonna be Discover if
there is going this is only the tip of the
iceberg in terms of the influence that Dion is going
(33:16):
to have. It will almost virtually be impossible to tag
Dion as the facilitator, even though you you know, without
a doubt he's the facilitator. But it's gonna be so
many companies that want to get into bed with what
Dion is doing and think about where we are in
our culture right now. Right it's it's the underserved community
(33:39):
that in communities that matter, it's the social justice that matters.
It's the equality that matters. So all of these companies
we've been seeing looking to throw their dollars at at
issues that have have now become prevalent issues being discussed
in our society today. You are going to want to
get that feel good content and that story. And Dion
(34:03):
knows it, and he's leveraging it to the hilt brilliantly
by taking top, top rated prospects and telling them, come here.
I'll get you to the league because, as you mentioned, Brady,
they will find the talent. But then also on top
of that, who has the connections to to these companies
(34:23):
like I do. These people want to represent me, They're
gonna want to represent you because they want to represent me.
Come here and you'll get those opportunities to be able
to monetize yourself as you're going through your college career.
I don't have to make the deal for you. Just
come play for prime I can guarantee you Prime Time
is gonna put you in the right time, in the
(34:43):
right space to be able to get what it is
that you deserve. He's gonna use that every single time.
It's just a matter how many guys are gonna go
for it and what's that gonna lead to? Because if
he gets too big, then now the question becomes, you
made Jackson State this big off of what you're doing,
what type of investigations are going to take place? Because
that's always what happens. Right you have success, there's always
(35:06):
going to be something or someone that tries to bring
it down. So it's like what ensues or will he
be gone? As you mentioned, I mean, he might be gone,
he might end up at Florida State, he might end
up at one of these top power five schools. It's
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What do we got today, you guys? In case you
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member of in case you missed it, made it again.
He went after a case bar called s O t
on his TikTok page, calling uh it a bad experience,
(37:37):
but they came back at him strong, saying we're sorry
you didn't reach out to us first taking to social media.
But then again, that is an uh an expectation we
would have had for from a mature, rational person, not
someone who pours water on fans and dances on the
memorial of tragically lost people for TikTok club. Good. That
guy's a toolbox. That guy, what's your problem? Rono? You
(38:04):
don't like Jaxon balls? No, no has a tool bag.
I start to teach these kids a lesson manly, have
some respect, be mature. Go talk to the rest, Go
talk to the manager. God, I don't it's it's the
whole TikTok thing like like. He's a star for two reasons.
One because his brother is Patrick Mahomes And you stop there,
(38:27):
you just stopped stop there. I don't care what he
does on social media. He's knocking to have the following
he has if he's not Patrick Mahomes brother. What a knob, man,
absolute knob, just disgusting. Anybody else want to rip him?
We got any more? We want to pilot do that?
Yeah that? How about you back man? How about you
(38:52):
tool man? Patrick Mahomes brother man not tree like that? Man.
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(39:13):
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Marty Grass. Interesting. Hey man, l a Arizona, Las Vegas.
I love this man. It's a great lot of super
and then New Orleans should take over the year after. Yeah,
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I can't stand on. I mean, who's jeez I'm ok, yeah,
I make sure I wear something like Bourbon street shoes
and get us. Damn, curbs are so high. Its super
buddy who dislocated? You're right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right though,
those curbs are pretty high. But you know what, you
(39:55):
guys never walked in TJ before. I guess yeah, yeah,
you don't know. It's like, man, I have what do
you mean that curbs there? Hey, Roberto, come on, that's
not grounds for the drown there, that's not grounds for
the draw. I can't ask, he said, they don't even
have cur asked if attack the founding fathers, Patrick, that's
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