January 5, 2022 • 47 mins
Brady, LaVar, & Jonas talk about Baker Mayfield shutting it down for the season, the Jaguars fans planning a "clown out," the Good, Bad, and the Ugly, a visit from Petros Papadakis, and much more!
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up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific here
on fs are we're approaching the final week of the
regular season in the NFL. Uh team's already acknowledging that
they are out, that they are finished, that they are done.
Uh yeah, it's just and and some players, in particular,
some quarterbacks who have acknowledged that they are done. U.
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And one of those quarterbacks would be Baker Mayfield, who
is now electing to have surgery, obviously dealing with the
shoulder injury that he's been nursing throughout the course majority
of the season. But he is going to have the
surgery asap. He's going to be out this Sunday against Cincinnati.
And Uh, I gotta be honest with you, I just
don't get it. Uh there's one game left, they were
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eliminated on Monday night, and he's still played. Brady, I
can't make sense of why this would be the move
that he would need to opt out or or be
done with the regular season a game early, as opposed
to going out there with his guys. Uh So, when
this initially came out, my first thought was, well, then
why did he play Monday night if they were already
eliminated going into that game. Now, the reason being would
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be he prepared the entire time to be the starter.
He'd really be putting case Keenom in a tough spot.
He would have been putting his entire team in a
tough spot because they were eliminated after the results of
the games on Sunday, So kind of made some sense
at that point that he would just go out and
play the Monday a football game and then elect to
get this surgery. And I do wonder if they even
had conversations before that game. But I'm with you, like,
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what's a week I mean, seriously, like, what's a week
in the difference of him coming back from a non
throwing shoulder posterior labor tear fixed to to what's going
on there. So I it doesn't make as much sense
to me unless this is what's at play, unless he
feels or is getting signals from the team that maybe
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he's not gonna be there next year. I mean, they
picked up his fifth year option. It's fully guaranteed, so
they're on the books for the eight team million or
so whatever the number is, eight teen point nine something
like that, which is, by the way, a very economical
amount for a starting quarterback in the NFL. If you believe,
you know, that's you know, that's what he's gonna be
next year for the Cleveland Browns. But I do wonder
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if he decided to say, we've got one game left,
but we're not going to the postseason, and I don't
know what's gonna happen right now with the team. So
I'd rather sit here and take care of myself as
opposed to putting myself back out there to get a
win for this team where I don't know that they're
not gonna deal me and they're not gonna send me
elsewhere and try to make a trader trying to figure
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out how to upgrade at this position or replace me.
So why shouldn't I look out for my best interest?
Maybe that's what's playing out right now. Uh, you definitely
have to protect yourself at this this point in time.
I'm me and I think that that logic makes perfectly
good sense. You you practice all week, you you finished out. Um.
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In terms of what this looks like for his future,
I think a lot is up in the air. They
grossly underachieved this season. No one would dispute that. Uh
how much of that falls on him internally? Uh, it
may be very different than external forces and how those
things are being discussed. But why why risk it? Right?
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Why why play another week when you could be getting
yourself healed up and getting yourself repaired for for your future.
I mean, I think that for what it's worth, it's
logical to say, if I haven't gotten or received or
redone my contract for a long term contract, and I
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do have one more year left on my contract, then
I should start preparing myself for next season. And if
that means going to be a part of this team
next year, then you know what, I want to be
as healthy as I can be going into the summer,
you know, the O T A s or the mini
camps depending on how all that stuff goes with with
COVID or whatever. But I think that he's going to
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want to be think about it this way, right, Guys,
if he plays well, if he were to play this
upcoming week and he plays well, does that boat better
in the long run than him coming and getting as
healthy as he can for the upcoming preparation for next
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season like the mini camps and different things like that.
You know, to me, if he's if he's still behind
health wise during during the mini camps, then that says
that that sets off a red flag to if the
guys that are making the decisions that you know, maybe
he's not going to be ready, Maybe he's not. Maybe
we're gonna have to go through an entire season again
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of Baker being her and being injured. So I think
that he's making a logical decision here to try to
get himself repaired and gets as healthy as he can.
I just think it makes sense. Just but it's just
a week, Like I don't I don't know. My thing is,
can he hurt it anymore? Like if this was one
thing to where it was his throwing shoulder and it
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was similar to a Drew Breese who got hurt regular
season finale in San Diego, and it was there was
questions about whether or not he could play again. You know,
I could understand that. But if it's a non throwing
shoulder he's been dealing with the majority of the year,
to me, he would earn a lot of whether you
want to say, credibility, respect, whatever word you want to use.
If you went out there acknowledging, hey, we're out, but
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I'm not leaving you guys behind. We're gonna go out there,
We're gonna do this together. And maybe I'm looking at
it from and you know, just sort of being a
little bit, but they already did that. He has already
done that. He has he could have probably went and
got that surgery long before now, right, But I get
what Jonas is saying. It's he's saying he's kind of
because he's competitive and he's doing it for his team
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and all that that. He's trying to stick it out
and and now I guess their postseason, since those aspirations
are done, it's like, well, now he's just gonna throw
in the talent it. He's basically saying, like, pull Matt Corral,
You're gonna play in what is a meaningless game in
the NFL. It's really only gonna hurt their draft order. Wherever. However,
this you know season ends and where they end up.
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I mean there's probably some Browns fans are like, hey,
we wouldn't mind losing this just so we end up
in a spot where a little bit closer. It's not
gonna be a successful season anyway. And we talked about
a little bit yesterday. The reality is like like a
lot of places do these like what postseason grades on
or you know, season reviews, when you look back, I
think it's the stupidest thing in the world, because in
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the NFL, everything's past fail. Like you either did what
you were hoping you were gonna do. You made it
to the playoffs you wanted to run, you won the
Super Bowl, you won the a f C, NFC, whatever
the case, maybe you won your division or you didn't.
And for Cleveland, it was a really big step act
from what they were a year ago. You know, they
were a playoff team. They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, Like,
they took a huge stride for this organization since they
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came back in n and this year they took almost
a step back. I mean maybe two steps back, depend
on how you look at it. But there was a
lot of you know, extenuating circumstances with COVID, with injuries,
you know, even with the coaching staff not being able
to be a part of it. So there's there's reasons
for that, and I understand, you know, every team deals
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with that, but they probably dealt with a little bit
worse this season. So like I kind of see the
whole thing and what's going on. I just think the
timing of this and Jonas had kind of pointed this out.
Is really interesting as to when he's decided now to say,
all right, enough enough, Like what is one more game
in trying to ride this thing out with your teammates,
with your guys. But if you feel like, hey, there's
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no point in it because we don't have any postseason
aspirations now, let case Keendom have a week to prepare
and give him a shot, so be it. I just
I would hope that you'd want to try to go
out on a better note than what we saw the
last two games. And I think, look, I I like
Baker Mayfield probably more than a lot of people. And
I do think he gets hammered by a lot of
people in the media, maybe too much so, because he's
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shown that he can be bothered by it and he'll
buy it back. Like I like him too. I think
he should be the longest term guy. But he does
bring a lot of this on this I totally agree.
But that being said, I mean, this was Baker Mayfield
post game and if you were to tell me after
these comments, what do you think he's going to do
for the regular season finale, I would just assume he
was going to play based on these comments following Monday's
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game at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean, it's not gonna always
be pretty or smooth, but I'm a fighter. Uh, anybody
ever questions so much I want to just turn on
this date. It was pretty, but I kept going, that's
who I am, and that's what I continue to be
um and so I've always been. So I'm just a
little surprised why he decided he didn't want to play again.
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I think that you could use the logic the totally
opposite direction, right. It doesn't it doesn't always have to
be cynical or and and and and the approach of it.
You you can look at it from the standpoint of
he again, he has wrote written it out with his guys.
They have written it out together, and wrote it out together,
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and and and for what it's worth, where they're at
right now, who knows what the internal conversations are, right,
Let's get you ready for for next season. You know,
if they were if they were in a position where
I mean, I guess now that doesn't really matter, But
I mean in years past, you you have guys that
they rest up on on the last week before the playoffs,
and they don't play until they get into the first round.
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If you're saying that this is and and for what
it's worth, I mean, let's let's look at it that
face value on this. If you're thinking that he's your
which we don't know of Cleveland's thinking this yet or not,
but if you're thinking this is your franchise quarterback, a
week does matter. It does matter to to to get
everything going, to get the process the road of recovery,
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uh and and being repaired. It does matter. And so
if you're looking at him and you're valuing him as
your franchise guy, then that's something that I would assume
internally everybody is aware of that. I would assume, you know, Miles,
Garrett and and the rest of these guys, Juice and
all those guys realize how much pain the dude is
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in and how much he's pushing to get through. I mean,
when when I did the game against Detroit, Cleveland versus Detroit,
and I did the interviews with him, you know the
way that those those players talked about Baker Mayfield. I mean,
Juice Landry said that he wouldn't he wouldn't, he would
wouldn't rather play for another quarterback other than Baker Mayfield,
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which is to me is high praise. You know, look,
I love that. It's a great sentiment and statement. He's
his quarterback. Now you put us asked with Tom Brady
or Aaron Rode. I mean, you know, I get I
get that too, but I mean the most beautiful in
the world, Ali Berry online too. Sorry, bab, I gotta
go name, but I would you signed here? But but again,
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for the thought of it. In the moment, it seemed
genuine and and if they caught up, hold on, did
you get caught up in that production meeting? Uh? I
felt a little bad for him, listening to the way
they sounded and in the way that they were trying
to make sense of things. I might have got a
little caught up into it. If they could have played
some soundtrack music underneath it, like it would have been
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like more of that, like soft, or it would have
been n y, it would have been some like book
of days, you know. Yeah, was there anybody you were
talking to your like, yeah, they're full of crap. I'm
a former player. I know this goes. They're just not
telling the truth. Coach Wood, Yeah, yeah, I said Coach Wood,
and he really wanted Glenn a Glenn wanted to really
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say some other things I could tell you he wanted to,
you know, but but just you know, you you mask
that way, we just got to get better. You know
that when when when you hair coach can't say anything
really good and then at a certain point they say,
you know, we just got to get better. That's code
where before we stank, these dudes stink. I got a
bunch of stank and they've given me this to You
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just have to find five minutes with the coach before
the production meeting, after the production meeting, or on the
field if you have a chance you're gonna practice or
walk through. That's when you get the real info. And then,
you know, as an analyst, especially talking on TV, you
have to decide like does it fit, does it make sense?
Should I even say this? Or how do I say this?
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Like that's where you start to develop relationships with them
where they can be a little bit more candid in
the production meetings because they'll hear if you like, out
them about something that you said. But they're not gonna
trust everyone in that production meeting room. So it's not
even about like the coach not trusting the analysts. It's
more about other people sitting in the room because they
know how TV works and they know a lot of
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the you know, producers, directors, other people involved. They'll talk
and if you see enough in those production production meeting
rooms and it gets out, you start to hear those
rumor mills. You know, it's not coming from the analyst.
It's usually coming from the other people who are involved
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at six am EA sting three am Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. In case
you might have missed this show. Over the past a
couple of months, we've been trying to tell you that
the armpit fart of the NFL is the Jacksonville Jaguars.
They can try and pin it on Urban Meyer and
we gotta get rid of herb He's the problem and
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they can have a of course, yeah, he was. He
was the fall guy. Was like Chris Carter at the
Rookie Symposium and then all of us, all of a sudden,
we approach Week eighteen in the NFL and uh. As
it turns, according to the Associated Press, there was a
report that came out Mark Long of the Associated Press
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who says that some Jaguars fans are planning to dress
up as clowns for this Sunday's finale against the Indianapolis Colts.
So we're gonna have an old fashioned clown out. Back
in the day, it was the brown paper bags over
the faces at New Orleans Saints game. They call him
the Aints Brady Gwinn. The Jacksonville Jaguars are taking it
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up a notch. We're gonna get clowns at whatever the
hell that stadium is with swimming pools in the top deck.
How about that. Apparently the clowns are also gonna have
the signature mustache that has donned by shot Con just
to represent that's actually who they are referring to as
a clown. So kind of interesting. I mean, look, this team,
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outside of one miracle run thanks to playoff Leonard four
Nette and unbelievable defense to the SC champion Ship game.
Outside of that one miracle season aberration, whatever you wanna
call it, they haven't been anything close to that, and
a lot of it has to do again with Shot Khan,
you know, overseeing all of this, and I think really
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falling victim to what a lot of owners fall victim to.
They make their money in some other industry and then
they buy an NFL franchise or a sports franchise and
a team, and they think that they can just you know,
have success because they've got a ton of money and
it and it always strikes me as odd because for
the most part, a lot of the lessons are ways
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that these owners made their money, if they even made it,
if they're not inheriting it right. It was the fundamentals
and things that like, they're not applying to the NFL
franchise and and that's where they kind of fall apart
and go wrong. So the reality is for Shot Khan,
you know, he's lucky he's not in a bigger market.
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If can you imagine if this team moved to London
the amount a flak he would take if they were
as bad as they have been since he's taken over
his owner. I mean, it would be it would be
a blood bath in that sports media market, considering like
the buttons you know, they push over there across the pond.
But it's it's tough to watch this, and it's tough
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even more just to listen to all the media that
again you wanted to make urban Meyer the scapegoat. You know,
once he leaves, you see just even how bad this
team is even without him. And I feel terrible for
Trevor Lawrence because at the end of the day, he
is one of the most draftable prospects we had ever
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seen in that number one overall position, and he has
thrusted into a bad organization that's ultimately going to eat
away of what he can truly be as a player
and as a town in the NFL. And it's a sad,
sad deal, and it happens all too often, and you
know what, it'll just be moving on. Here's another sad
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story of can't miss prospect that missed. It's it just
happens way too often. And that's that's just the reality
of what pro football, you know, pro sports in general,
you know it presents. I mean, think about this. They
were less than three minutes away, There was under three
minutes to go at Foxboro in the a f C
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title game. They had a lead to go to the
Super Bowl. That was less than four years ago. What
the hell happened and that that roster take you had
Jalen Ramsey and Studs his Brady point at Leonard four
Nette and there was a player that was missed by
Leonard Fournett in that game. But if you would have said, hey,
less than four years from now, Urban Meyer will have
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come and gone, Jalen Ramsey and all those superstars are gone.
Oh and by the way, in the regular season finale,
uh fans are gonna dress up like clowns with a
shot Khan mustache and show up to the game. People
have thought you were crazy. That's what a disaster this
team has been. And and just to see it play,
that's why I'm fast needed to see who they end
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up with as a coach, like like what like what
what is the direction they're gonna take here? And and
Trent Balky. The report is he saved, But I don't
know how you're not looking at this entire thing going.
That's that's the other part of the frustration, right, is
that they're keeping Balky as a part of it. I
think the fans are wise to his track record and
just how this whole thing is run and the fact
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that I mean, he survived the last regime. He was
the hold over from the last regime and and maybe
you know that's if you asked urban Meyer, one of
the mistakes he made was keeping Trent Balky in place
and not having someone that he could bring in that
he trusted that wasn't gonna kneecap him or you know,
talk behind his back to force what happened earlier this season. So,
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I mean, that's that's part of the frustration too, I
think for the fans is is leaving someone in place
that you know how all these leaks got out. You
know how all this stuff came out. It's not that
hard to figure out where the source was, where it
was coming from. And that's the hard thing about any
ororganization when you have that sort of dysfunction going on,
you have to just start over and wipe clean. And
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it's unfortunate for a lot of the people who are
a part of that organization they get caught up in it.
But that's the reality is you've got to wipe the
whole thing clean, build back up and give some of
these young talented players, Trevor Lawrence in particular, a guy
like Josh Allen, Labisca, Channault whoever you want to talk
about James Robinson. You know, you could throw on a
bunch of these young players. They've got talent there, but
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you've got to give them a shot and a chance.
And you're not with the way this organization is operating
operating right now. So good for the fan base there
in Jackson. I just wish there was more than you know,
forty people doing this. And I don't think it's gonna
be a huge showing. It's kind of like, remember they're
trying to get Tebow. They're trying to the Jaguars to
sign Tebow and way back when and they had like
ten people standing outside the stadium was a huge rally.
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But you know that was that was the kind of
drumming up support they really got for it. Well, it's
the older, the old trick in professional wrestling. They call
it papering the arena, where when you know you can't
draw a lot of people, you just got give out
a bunch of free tickets to make sure it looks
like it's more full than it actually is. I mean,
they ought to try that, just start giving out some
free tickets paper that stadium. It's all about the camera angles.
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I mean, you can make like a lot of people
when you get close ups, get kind of like bunched
in together and they're all yelling really in the camera,
and then you actually pan out and you're like, oh, finally,
let me ask you this. Because you live in Florida Jacksonville.
What's the humidity like this time of year? Uh? And
how's that clown makeup gonna feel if they're dressed up
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like they're at the circus with the show? Be perfect
outside this time of year. It is why you live
in Florida. In any port, it actually might be. If
I had to guess, I'd say it's like seventy two
up there for game day. It will be perfect weather
for it. But Jacksonville is much different than where you're at, Brady.
I mean, no, no no, no, no, but it ain't that
different this time of year. I mean, I'm the extended forecast,
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and I'll tell you right now, it'll be beautiful weather
up there for what Sunday? Perfect for a clown out? Man,
I'm into high on Sunday in Jacksonville is seventy eight
degree is the lowest sixty two that actually is perfect football.
I'm not lying to you like this is why you
live in Florida this time of year is for the
weather across the entire state. It is beautiful, it's nice,
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perfect for football weather. Or if you want to don
a clown costume and put a bunch of makeup on
a fake mustache, this will be the time of year
to really come out and do it. Week eighteen of
the NFL season. Now do you wear do you what
do you have on? What? Can? It is considered a
clown costume because you can't have just the pain and
the wig, like you've got to have a rubber nose.
You gotta have the Yeah, is that what they unitard?
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What do they call that? It's like onesie and sometimes
you gloves you had like the collar that that fluffs
out or or you have the jacket, you know, but
it's all got to be signing, you know. That's Uh.
Do you don't have any like props? Like do you
have to have? Yeah? The little horn? What on? Hold
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me the clown? Hold me? The clown had that at
that shock? I mean you can bring one of those.
Don't mess around? Yeah? Yeah, beat beat Ritchie. Um, Now
here's this is going to movie. Let's see if Brady
has heard any of the conversations that I've had with
the in laws while on the phone, Brady, what how
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do you say clown? In Spanish? You would say, there
it is, there's my guy right there. You don't know
how I know that. Basically, Jonas calls me a pioso
four times a week. It's just a fun word. I'll
pay attention. You say it to me, I'll punch you
on your face, but I would pay attention to you. Guys,
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aren't you more excited to watch that Jags game now?
Because I know there's like this uh, this you know
thing out there where it's like, well, you know, if
the Jags win that game and the Raiders and Chargers
end in a tie, they could just set it a
tie and both go to That's not happening, all right,
So let's not even have a fake conversation. Yeah, like,
come on, have to when to get in. I mean,
it's it's dumb. It is dumb. But it would be
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amazing though, if it did somehow happen and then you
you looked at the Chargers and Raiders they just looked
at each other and they're like, yeah, we're just gonna
kneel the whole time. That wonderful. Would it would be
amazing to see just to ensure they both couldn't. I
would be curious though, like what the seating would look
like in that case. I don't even know. I haven't
even well. I mean, it would make sense, It would
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make the most sense to have it play out that
way if they would have to play each other again
in the first round of the wild card round. But
they couldn't in that case because they both be wild cards,
so obviously they'd be they'd be positioned to play someone else,
you see. I I just I'm more excited to watch
the Jacks game now that I know people are gonna
dress up like that. So whatever, it is the hell
of a hype job for the Jaguars. Who knew it wasna?
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What's that? I mean? That should be part of our
over unders. I mean, I'm into it. Who knows? It
could be on Knox Walks as well too, which is
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fifteen years ago, flew into Tuscaloosa, Alabama. You made the comment,
what worked out pretty good? I worked out pretty much
pretty good. So I'll say that it's worked out pretty good.
And whether win or lose, which men? If he wins
another one, I mean, the gap gets so much bigger.
So the good, Nick Saban? Great for for college football? Uh,
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great coach, one of the best ever. So I'm going
with Nick, I've got the bad this week. My bad
goes to the bad takes that were floating around after
the college football playoff games. Brady and I talked about
this yesterday. The idea that just because we had a
couple of blowouts means that we shouldn't expand the playoffs
is one of the dumbest takes that I've heard in
a long time. It's like the n c A tournament.
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If the final four involved two blowouts, nobody's going, well,
we should scrap all the other games now, the opening
ground games or what people get excited about. Listen, uh,
some of these lower seeds may not have a chance,
but they might have a chance against each other. And
the idea that we're just gonna dismiss the entire playoff
expansion because of it doesn't make any sense. It's bad take.
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There's too much money involved. That's also a factor in
all this. So that is my bad for the week.
Brady Quinn has got the ugly this week. I've got
the ugly, and I could go a lot of different directions.
I mean, look, it was ugly the way and Sonyo
Brown left the New York excuse me, left the tap
bait ball. So they're playing in New York. Well, I
mean that's what we assume. Although he's still technically on
(28:05):
a roster right now, he's living pretty but this thing
could get ugly, especially considering some of the information coming
out about the fact that he's got an ankle that
needs surgery, at least according to one specific surgeon that's
speaking out on his behalf. So things could get ugly
there in Tampa. Things could get ugly in New York too.
I feel like we're getting to a point where Joe Judge, well,
(28:27):
he said, hey, if we go out there and we
lay an egg, I deserve to be booed. It could
get pretty ugly then for a Giant's team that I
kind of already packed it in. It seems like for
the season, maybe for Joe Judge as well. But really, finally,
I think a Jacksonville that's where things are gonna get ugly.
It's gonna be interesting to see how shod Khan handles
what is going to be a quote unquote clown show
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that's showing up this week for their season finale versus
the Indianapolis Colts, many fans of which donning clown costumes
T shirts which have his signature musta as a part
of that. So in Jacksonville, brilliant the NFL, it's gonna
get ugly for a lot of teams a week eight teams.
And now do you guys think that some of these
players on these bad teams have already planned vacations for
(29:12):
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right now, everybody, we roll out the red carpet in
your ears, and we welcome in the great Petros Papadics.
He was not with us last week. We missed him
dearly the old p on a M five seventy l
a Sports with Matt money Smith, Fox College Football analysts
and a show favorite Petros. How are you Happy New Year? Yeah?
(29:58):
What's going over? Happy New Year? Everything good? Happy New Year.
I looked up Mark Morrison because that reminded me of
that song and I didn't know this. He's a British
performer from Barbadian parents, born in West Germany. He did
have three big singles in the UK off that album
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in nineties six uh, other than Return of the Mac.
He had a tripping on that album and Bone and Grown.
It would all reach the UK Top ten, making him
the first artist in British pop history to have five
top ten hits from its something we can all relate
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to you about this. He's had a lot of legal issues. Uh.
Running around with a gun in England is bad news.
They're they're all in the much rather you carry a knife.
But yeah, go ahead of You're right. A lot of
staff deaths in the UK, Uh, no doubt about that.
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But here's he was in a fight where somebody died
and that usually that's because of a Usually that's because
of a knife. And he paid somebody while he was
doing community service a look alike to run around and
perform Return of the Mac and shared the profits and
he got in trouble for I didn't know about filly
(31:29):
situation sort of. It sounds like some of these coaches
to somebody looked like they'm going Petros, Hey, Petros. If
you could find a doppel gang or someone who looked
or even clone yourself, would you clone yourself or find
someone just like you to step in for you for
a few days a week to our radio, just like
(31:50):
me to find we're talking multiplicity here, we're talking if
you can clone yourself, okay, and just like make somebody
service your wife and all that that's in the movie.
I don't want that in the movie. I don't know
what you guys want. You know, you look up Mark
Morris and all of a sudden start, I don't know
(32:13):
I was capable of Paris or maybe play you in
a game, it says, but not not, you know, not
debate room. You guys have seen young Frankenstein. You know
you must have. He must have an enormous faun stocker.
That goes without saying. I don't know, I I kind of.
I'm just dealing with being myself, Brady. I mean, these
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are scenarios that aren't happening. I don't you want me
to clone myself. I think you're so great. We need
more than one of you. That's why I think. I
don't think a lot of people would disagree with you.
A lot of the Rams, the Rams wives have taken
up arms against me. If you've seen this, I don't know.
Matt Stafford's wife is really mad at me, really mad
(32:55):
at me. Went on a whole crazy podcast rant about
me about something I said on Fred's show, which I
don't even remember what I said. I don't know, and
she got mad that I didn't call him. Matthew because
I guess that's what they wanted. Well, I know some
people that moved to different neighborhoods and they kind of
(33:17):
wanted to change their name, you know, to sound more boogie.
I mean I called some Lions games and I called
him Matt. Then I feel like, did I not have
like my grandfather claused in well, when you're in Detroit,
it's okay to say Matt because he went. You know,
I remember a lady who moved to a nicer neighborhood
that lived next door to us when we were kids,
(33:37):
and her name was Debbie, and then she moved to
the other neighborhood and her name was then Deborah. Right,
So I understand trying to reinvent yourself when you come
to l A. He's not the first guy. But the
that wife got all mad at me and went on
and some kind of podcast rant, and then the wit
worst wife got after me on Twitter on Sunday night
(34:00):
that yeah, and said that I was stupid and I
don't know what I'm talking about, which is all true.
So so that and then a couple of years ago,
my old friend Johnny Hacker got mad at me, uh
and got after me on the Twitter, What the hell
did you say? I don't know these rams are really
(34:21):
you know, I think they are used to St. Louis
and everybody just like giving him a new room massage,
and they came out here to Los Angeles. It's a
little bit different. There's people that that don't really feel
like they need to compliment to keep their jobs. I mean,
who knew that the challenge with Fred Rogan was such
a hop at a controversy. It's always been that way.
(34:42):
I had a high school coach sue me for slander once,
as I said, as I said, they had popcorn muscles
or something, I sue you for slander. Well yeah, I
sent him a two word response. But is that a
real thing now? Like well, I mean, anybody can send
a letter threatening to sue any buddy for anything. Well yeah,
(35:02):
friends assume me a couple of times. Now. Your coworkers petroms,
yes we are rich eyes and has threatened to assume
something I said about his wife. She wasn't broadcasting, and
she kept bringing her dog to USC practice and it
bothered me. You bring your dog to practice where people
(35:25):
may not true. You want to know how to never
get back on the rich eyes and show. I said,
like one joke about Michigan to him. I've never been
asked to come back on since he's literally but our
industry is filled with self important people like that, you know.
I mean, if you think about it, these are people
that grew up practicing in the mirror saying things like
(35:48):
welcome bad. I've practiced in the mirror of pops Yeah,
getting swollen. But the other thing about rich Eyes Psycho
is you know what, it always always gives me a
little bit of a yeah. It always gives me a
little bit of a of pause when it says in
a guy's resume that he's a former comedian, you know,
(36:12):
like he's somehow no longer funny. I mean yeah. And
by the way, Pe, if you're gonna be at a
radio road for the Super Bowl this year, and I
hope you are, because I know how much you'll hate it,
I think I'm gonna be forced to do that, but
I'm gonna lobby so hard against it, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna make uh concessions and and really negotiate with
(36:36):
Don Martin. I hate There's nothing I hate more than
my colleagues in sports. Every everything you loathe about sports
media that you've just described is going to be there
at Radio Row. Oh yeah, I just I don't want
to see myself in St. Louis, You know what I mean?
Because what the guy that does what I do in St.
(36:57):
Louis like it. It shakes me to the core. He
wears a polo that says like the ticket, the Beast,
the fan or something on it. It's all bacon. Yeah,
it's all bacon necked. You know the color is because
he's washed in a thousand times because he wears it
(37:19):
to every event. Dockers and you know, they just they
they all like clamor to do the Troy Aikman interview,
and half the interview is he's promoting like Washington apples.
I like Washington apples at one point in my life.
We all like apples LaVar. But the promotion, now you've
done this, I'm sure like they give you something to
(37:41):
promote and you just go around Radio Row talking about
it right from show talking about the shot though, that's
what he's talking about. Yeah, it is a good shot.
It is a drink. What about you, Brady, what do
you go around promoting I know you've done I'll say
this the one of the last times I went to
radio row UM that was promoting I think when I
was working, I got to do shots with them at
(38:03):
Smith of His Tequila and I was like, they say
that bad of a job, right, Yeah, if you get
to take shots while you're walking, you know, I don't.
I don't disregard that. I mean, and I'll be honest.
I literally the most unprofessional moment in probably my life
was when because there was all all these setups right,
(38:24):
like it is kind of a crazy, crazy deal. At
least it pre COVID it used to be right and
there's all these people everywhere and these I think it
was like the I don't know, it wasn't Victorious Secrets,
but it's like the s I like swimsuit models. All
these these girls came by, um just gorgeous, like most
beautiful chicks on the planet, and I was just like wow.
(38:46):
And for like five minutes, I was like trying to
figure out why they're there, what they were doing, and
apparently they had a show, and so I didn't say
anything for about five minutes on radio sitting there, we
had a guest and I just completely was nex say
do I'm like, what was happening and trying to figure
out that situation. And I was just like, at some
point I snapped out of it. It It was like, oh yeah,
(39:07):
I'm actually working right now. But that's like Radio Row.
It's like it's a it's a spectacle, it's a circus.
It's everywhere you look, there's something it is. It is horrible.
You know what, the are some good parts, it's the no,
they're not. It's the equivalent of It's the equivalent of
a of a wedding that has a cash bar and
then they do a money dance, you know. Like that's
(39:30):
what radio Row is. And yeah, I hate everybody wants
to do his during COVID. I I didn't know he
was married. I just thought he did radio all day.
But no, I I despise the super Bowl and it's
(39:53):
coming to l A. And I'm afraid that I'm going
to have to be more involved than I normally am.
And I I am already trying to find angles to
get out of it. Maybe LaVar can be me. I
can say he had cloned myself. Yeah, yeah, you know
this whole COVID thing. Man, I just you know, I
might not be able to go. Yeah, yeah, I can
do that. Yeah, right, let's work this angle double mask.
(40:16):
Who's who's that guy? I don't know. I mean, you
gotta think about you, but you gotta think about It's
five thirty seven, We're almost done. Who's going to be
on radio row while we're there. Well, that's the thing. Everybody,
you know, like you guys will be very busy on
radio Row. That's the thing. My show not seven am, Matt, Yeah, no, no, no,
(40:38):
Because you think about it, it's it's it's eight thirty
seven am everywhere else. So all the shows, every morning
show in the country. Yea. My radio partner and I
we sit there at the Radio Row. And you know, basically,
if you want to go do your show at the
radio Row and get anybody, you have to go and
(40:58):
take the whole goddamn because by three o'clock everybody's gone.
It's six o'clock on the East coast. Petros did you
uh did you do a game with Matt money Smith?
Did I see that? On Sunday, Daniel Jeremiah got COVID again.
So I was on vacation in the desert, driving back
from the Boomers, listening to my son and wife argue
(41:21):
about backmarker racing and the go kart. She got really
mad when my son wouldn't let her through. I was surprised.
I didn't know my wife was like racer X. She
was really pissed, like she's trying to run him off
a cliff like speed racer where people just die. You know,
that's a funny In speed Racer, like ten people would
die per race and it'd just be like no one
(41:43):
cared and the only way everybody off the cliffs. But yeah,
Don Martin called me, said, mom, Am, I wanted to
wish it happened to year. That's so yeah. I guess
I didn't screw it up bad enough the first time
they asked me to do it, but I had never
(42:05):
been Why did you just sound just like them? Though
we do a lot of them, Give me a little more, Don,
At the end of the night, it's about the three
you working together. That's the match. It's a little early
for me to really I'm a grandmother. My uh. It
(42:28):
is so spot on, and they're probably there's probably five
or six people they get the joke in the tone.
But we take our we take our work for it.
That is exactly that is spot on radio executive Don
Martin our boss, a k A. Our boss. That's Rob,
don't you forget it? And I just got a new title,
(42:50):
so Don called me and he and uh, that was
nice to them. I had never been, uh two. And
it's easy to work with Matt obviously we've been doing
so in a game with a guy you work with
for four hours a day for fifteen years is a
little different than you know, having to go do a
game with I don't know, Jason Bennonette, Bennettetti or whenever
(43:12):
you know who I've never met. But I will say this,
I had never been to a regular season NFL game
before in my life, and I had only been to
two preseason games previously. So the thing that trips me
out about the NFL, like when you're watching the game
and the whole field is there, you know, like when
you're in the stadium, I should say, uh, man, there
(43:33):
is nowhere to go. There is nowhere to go in
an NFL game with the way the hash marks are placed,
it's just, uh, it's so different from college football with
the lack of space out there, and the level of
play is just excellent, you know, I mean, it's really uh,
it really is a great product, There's no doubt about it.
(43:55):
But I prefer the college game and the chaos and
the anger. Can I just ask you one quick question
before we let you go, because I would love your
perspective on everything that happened with A B. I mean,
it's obviously continuing to unfold, but I want what was
your general what was your initial reaction to what took place?
(44:18):
I was not surprised, but I played with a volatile
wide receiver in college. No, No, he wasn't. Yeah, yeah,
and uh he's he's my year. R J. Soward came
out in two thousand, right, I think, Yeah, we played
a year without him. I played three years with him. Yeah, me,
(44:40):
and I know r J sowerd Okay, go ahead, you
know and uh and and r J is a great guy,
and I liked him when we played together. But uh,
you know, those guys can be detrimental or destructive to
a team. We've seen it throughout the years. There's a
lot between a wide receiver, no matter how good they are,
and the football. There's the quarterback that's got to throw
(45:01):
it straight. There's the line's got to block it, right,
they gotta call the play. You've got to be in
the progression, you know, all those things that go into
these guys getting the ball, and it's become and they
don't pay their dues physically on a down end and
down out basis. I think you guys would agree with that,
(45:22):
right like no, not like people in the box. So
they have a tendency to be a little bit more
cocky than others because they haven't been humbled over and
over and over again. I don't know what's going on
with Antonio Brown. He's obviously uh maybe he has some issues.
Maybe he's just a difficult personality. I'm not sure, but
(45:44):
I wasn't I wasn't surprised. I hadn't seen anything like
that before. But for some reason, I wasn't surprised. What
surprises me is what's happened in the aftermath. I guess
they try to kick him off the team, but now
he's not out injury stuff out there, and yeah, so
now the union is going to be involved. If you
(46:04):
might skate again on this, union's always gotta get involved.
You know that works? Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean,
it's a major distraction to a football team, but in
two what isn't you know? I mean, if it happened
in our day, we talk about it every day for
the rest of our lives. Right if I don't want
(46:24):
to sit around here like Kirk Herbstreet and Desmond Howard
and sound like an idiot talking about how the way
things used to be. I mean, when we played, there
weren't billion dollar TV deals, Coaches didn't make eight million
dollars a year, players couldn't transfer without being penalized. I mean,
it's a different time in football, so I don't want
to sound like an old man yelling at a cloud.
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I'm pretty sure Antonio Brown's got some kind of mental issue, though,
because I do and I can recognize it in others.
Get him on Twitter at the old p Everybody got
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(01:06):
up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific here
on fs are we're approaching the final week of the
regular season in the NFL. Uh team's already acknowledging that
they are out, that they are finished, that they are done.
Uh yeah, it's just and and some players, in particular,
some quarterbacks who have acknowledged that they are done. U.
(01:28):
And one of those quarterbacks would be Baker Mayfield, who
is now electing to have surgery, obviously dealing with the
shoulder injury that he's been nursing throughout the course majority
of the season. But he is going to have the
surgery asap. He's going to be out this Sunday against Cincinnati.
And Uh, I gotta be honest with you, I just
don't get it. Uh there's one game left, they were
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eliminated on Monday night, and he's still played. Brady, I
can't make sense of why this would be the move
that he would need to opt out or or be
done with the regular season a game early, as opposed
to going out there with his guys. Uh So, when
this initially came out, my first thought was, well, then
why did he play Monday night if they were already
eliminated going into that game. Now, the reason being would
(02:12):
be he prepared the entire time to be the starter.
He'd really be putting case Keenom in a tough spot.
He would have been putting his entire team in a
tough spot because they were eliminated after the results of
the games on Sunday, So kind of made some sense
at that point that he would just go out and
play the Monday a football game and then elect to
get this surgery. And I do wonder if they even
had conversations before that game. But I'm with you, like,
(02:36):
what's a week I mean, seriously, like, what's a week
in the difference of him coming back from a non
throwing shoulder posterior labor tear fixed to to what's going
on there. So I it doesn't make as much sense
to me unless this is what's at play, unless he
feels or is getting signals from the team that maybe
(03:00):
he's not gonna be there next year. I mean, they
picked up his fifth year option. It's fully guaranteed, so
they're on the books for the eight team million or
so whatever the number is, eight teen point nine something
like that, which is, by the way, a very economical
amount for a starting quarterback in the NFL. If you believe,
you know, that's you know, that's what he's gonna be
next year for the Cleveland Browns. But I do wonder
(03:23):
if he decided to say, we've got one game left,
but we're not going to the postseason, and I don't
know what's gonna happen right now with the team. So
I'd rather sit here and take care of myself as
opposed to putting myself back out there to get a
win for this team where I don't know that they're
not gonna deal me and they're not gonna send me
elsewhere and try to make a trader trying to figure
(03:45):
out how to upgrade at this position or replace me.
So why shouldn't I look out for my best interest?
Maybe that's what's playing out right now. Uh, you definitely
have to protect yourself at this this point in time.
I'm me and I think that that logic makes perfectly
good sense. You you practice all week, you you finished out. Um.
(04:08):
In terms of what this looks like for his future,
I think a lot is up in the air. They
grossly underachieved this season. No one would dispute that. Uh
how much of that falls on him internally? Uh, it
may be very different than external forces and how those
things are being discussed. But why why risk it? Right?
(04:30):
Why why play another week when you could be getting
yourself healed up and getting yourself repaired for for your future.
I mean, I think that for what it's worth, it's
logical to say, if I haven't gotten or received or
redone my contract for a long term contract, and I
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do have one more year left on my contract, then
I should start preparing myself for next season. And if
that means going to be a part of this team
next year, then you know what, I want to be
as healthy as I can be going into the summer,
you know, the O T A s or the mini
camps depending on how all that stuff goes with with
COVID or whatever. But I think that he's going to
(05:15):
want to be think about it this way, right, Guys,
if he plays well, if he were to play this
upcoming week and he plays well, does that boat better
in the long run than him coming and getting as
healthy as he can for the upcoming preparation for next
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season like the mini camps and different things like that.
You know, to me, if he's if he's still behind
health wise during during the mini camps, then that says
that that sets off a red flag to if the
guys that are making the decisions that you know, maybe
he's not going to be ready, Maybe he's not. Maybe
we're gonna have to go through an entire season again
(05:58):
of Baker being her and being injured. So I think
that he's making a logical decision here to try to
get himself repaired and gets as healthy as he can.
I just think it makes sense. Just but it's just
a week, Like I don't I don't know. My thing is,
can he hurt it anymore? Like if this was one
thing to where it was his throwing shoulder and it
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was similar to a Drew Breese who got hurt regular
season finale in San Diego, and it was there was
questions about whether or not he could play again. You know,
I could understand that. But if it's a non throwing
shoulder he's been dealing with the majority of the year,
to me, he would earn a lot of whether you
want to say, credibility, respect, whatever word you want to use.
If you went out there acknowledging, hey, we're out, but
(06:41):
I'm not leaving you guys behind. We're gonna go out there,
We're gonna do this together. And maybe I'm looking at
it from and you know, just sort of being a
little bit, but they already did that. He has already
done that. He has he could have probably went and
got that surgery long before now, right, But I get
what Jonas is saying. It's he's saying he's kind of
because he's competitive and he's doing it for his team
(07:02):
and all that that. He's trying to stick it out
and and now I guess their postseason, since those aspirations
are done, it's like, well, now he's just gonna throw
in the talent it. He's basically saying, like, pull Matt Corral,
You're gonna play in what is a meaningless game in
the NFL. It's really only gonna hurt their draft order. Wherever. However,
this you know season ends and where they end up.
(07:24):
I mean there's probably some Browns fans are like, hey,
we wouldn't mind losing this just so we end up
in a spot where a little bit closer. It's not
gonna be a successful season anyway. And we talked about
a little bit yesterday. The reality is like like a
lot of places do these like what postseason grades on
or you know, season reviews, when you look back, I
think it's the stupidest thing in the world, because in
(07:45):
the NFL, everything's past fail. Like you either did what
you were hoping you were gonna do. You made it
to the playoffs you wanted to run, you won the
Super Bowl, you won the a f C, NFC, whatever
the case, maybe you won your division or you didn't.
And for Cleveland, it was a really big step act
from what they were a year ago. You know, they
were a playoff team. They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, Like,
they took a huge stride for this organization since they
(08:08):
came back in n and this year they took almost
a step back. I mean maybe two steps back, depend
on how you look at it. But there was a
lot of you know, extenuating circumstances with COVID, with injuries,
you know, even with the coaching staff not being able
to be a part of it. So there's there's reasons
for that, and I understand, you know, every team deals
(08:29):
with that, but they probably dealt with a little bit
worse this season. So like I kind of see the
whole thing and what's going on. I just think the
timing of this and Jonas had kind of pointed this out.
Is really interesting as to when he's decided now to say,
all right, enough enough, Like what is one more game
in trying to ride this thing out with your teammates,
with your guys. But if you feel like, hey, there's
(08:52):
no point in it because we don't have any postseason
aspirations now, let case Keendom have a week to prepare
and give him a shot, so be it. I just
I would hope that you'd want to try to go
out on a better note than what we saw the
last two games. And I think, look, I I like
Baker Mayfield probably more than a lot of people. And
I do think he gets hammered by a lot of
people in the media, maybe too much so, because he's
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shown that he can be bothered by it and he'll
buy it back. Like I like him too. I think
he should be the longest term guy. But he does
bring a lot of this on this I totally agree.
But that being said, I mean, this was Baker Mayfield
post game and if you were to tell me after
these comments, what do you think he's going to do
for the regular season finale, I would just assume he
was going to play based on these comments following Monday's
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game at Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean, it's not gonna always
be pretty or smooth, but I'm a fighter. Uh, anybody
ever questions so much I want to just turn on
this date. It was pretty, but I kept going, that's
who I am, and that's what I continue to be
um and so I've always been. So I'm just a
little surprised why he decided he didn't want to play again.
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I think that you could use the logic the totally
opposite direction, right. It doesn't it doesn't always have to
be cynical or and and and and the approach of it.
You you can look at it from the standpoint of
he again, he has wrote written it out with his guys.
They have written it out together, and wrote it out together,
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and and and for what it's worth, where they're at
right now, who knows what the internal conversations are, right,
Let's get you ready for for next season. You know,
if they were if they were in a position where
I mean, I guess now that doesn't really matter, But
I mean in years past, you you have guys that
they rest up on on the last week before the playoffs,
and they don't play until they get into the first round.
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If you're saying that this is and and for what
it's worth, I mean, let's let's look at it that
face value on this. If you're thinking that he's your
which we don't know of Cleveland's thinking this yet or not,
but if you're thinking this is your franchise quarterback, a
week does matter. It does matter to to to get
everything going, to get the process the road of recovery,
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uh and and being repaired. It does matter. And so
if you're looking at him and you're valuing him as
your franchise guy, then that's something that I would assume
internally everybody is aware of that. I would assume, you know, Miles,
Garrett and and the rest of these guys, Juice and
all those guys realize how much pain the dude is
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in and how much he's pushing to get through. I mean,
when when I did the game against Detroit, Cleveland versus Detroit,
and I did the interviews with him, you know the
way that those those players talked about Baker Mayfield. I mean,
Juice Landry said that he wouldn't he wouldn't, he would
wouldn't rather play for another quarterback other than Baker Mayfield,
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which is to me is high praise. You know, look,
I love that. It's a great sentiment and statement. He's
his quarterback. Now you put us asked with Tom Brady
or Aaron Rode. I mean, you know, I get I
get that too, but I mean the most beautiful in
the world, Ali Berry online too. Sorry, bab, I gotta
go name, but I would you signed here? But but again,
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for the thought of it. In the moment, it seemed
genuine and and if they caught up, hold on, did
you get caught up in that production meeting? Uh? I
felt a little bad for him, listening to the way
they sounded and in the way that they were trying
to make sense of things. I might have got a
little caught up into it. If they could have played
some soundtrack music underneath it, like it would have been
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like more of that, like soft, or it would have
been n y, it would have been some like book
of days, you know. Yeah, was there anybody you were
talking to your like, yeah, they're full of crap. I'm
a former player. I know this goes. They're just not
telling the truth. Coach Wood, Yeah, yeah, I said Coach Wood,
and he really wanted Glenn a Glenn wanted to really
(12:57):
say some other things I could tell you he wanted to,
you know, but but just you know, you you mask
that way, we just got to get better. You know
that when when when you hair coach can't say anything
really good and then at a certain point they say,
you know, we just got to get better. That's code
where before we stank, these dudes stink. I got a
bunch of stank and they've given me this to You
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just have to find five minutes with the coach before
the production meeting, after the production meeting, or on the
field if you have a chance you're gonna practice or
walk through. That's when you get the real info. And then,
you know, as an analyst, especially talking on TV, you
have to decide like does it fit, does it make sense?
Should I even say this? Or how do I say this?
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Like that's where you start to develop relationships with them
where they can be a little bit more candid in
the production meetings because they'll hear if you like, out
them about something that you said. But they're not gonna
trust everyone in that production meeting room. So it's not
even about like the coach not trusting the analysts. It's
more about other people sitting in the room because they
know how TV works and they know a lot of
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the you know, producers, directors, other people involved. They'll talk
and if you see enough in those production production meeting
rooms and it gets out, you start to hear those
rumor mills. You know, it's not coming from the analyst.
It's usually coming from the other people who are involved
around the production of that game. Be sure to catch
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at six am EA sting three am Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. In case
you might have missed this show. Over the past a
couple of months, we've been trying to tell you that
the armpit fart of the NFL is the Jacksonville Jaguars.
They can try and pin it on Urban Meyer and
we gotta get rid of herb He's the problem and
(14:47):
they can have a of course, yeah, he was. He
was the fall guy. Was like Chris Carter at the
Rookie Symposium and then all of us, all of a sudden,
we approach Week eighteen in the NFL and uh. As
it turns, according to the Associated Press, there was a
report that came out Mark Long of the Associated Press
(15:10):
who says that some Jaguars fans are planning to dress
up as clowns for this Sunday's finale against the Indianapolis Colts.
So we're gonna have an old fashioned clown out. Back
in the day, it was the brown paper bags over
the faces at New Orleans Saints game. They call him
the Aints Brady Gwinn. The Jacksonville Jaguars are taking it
(15:30):
up a notch. We're gonna get clowns at whatever the
hell that stadium is with swimming pools in the top deck.
How about that. Apparently the clowns are also gonna have
the signature mustache that has donned by shot Con just
to represent that's actually who they are referring to as
a clown. So kind of interesting. I mean, look, this team,
(15:51):
outside of one miracle run thanks to playoff Leonard four
Nette and unbelievable defense to the SC champion Ship game.
Outside of that one miracle season aberration, whatever you wanna
call it, they haven't been anything close to that, and
a lot of it has to do again with Shot Khan,
you know, overseeing all of this, and I think really
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falling victim to what a lot of owners fall victim to.
They make their money in some other industry and then
they buy an NFL franchise or a sports franchise and
a team, and they think that they can just you know,
have success because they've got a ton of money and
it and it always strikes me as odd because for
the most part, a lot of the lessons are ways
(16:36):
that these owners made their money, if they even made it,
if they're not inheriting it right. It was the fundamentals
and things that like, they're not applying to the NFL
franchise and and that's where they kind of fall apart
and go wrong. So the reality is for Shot Khan,
you know, he's lucky he's not in a bigger market.
(16:56):
If can you imagine if this team moved to London
the amount a flak he would take if they were
as bad as they have been since he's taken over
his owner. I mean, it would be it would be
a blood bath in that sports media market, considering like
the buttons you know, they push over there across the pond.
But it's it's tough to watch this, and it's tough
(17:18):
even more just to listen to all the media that
again you wanted to make urban Meyer the scapegoat. You know,
once he leaves, you see just even how bad this
team is even without him. And I feel terrible for
Trevor Lawrence because at the end of the day, he
is one of the most draftable prospects we had ever
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seen in that number one overall position, and he has
thrusted into a bad organization that's ultimately going to eat
away of what he can truly be as a player
and as a town in the NFL. And it's a sad,
sad deal, and it happens all too often, and you
know what, it'll just be moving on. Here's another sad
(17:59):
story of can't miss prospect that missed. It's it just
happens way too often. And that's that's just the reality
of what pro football, you know, pro sports in general,
you know it presents. I mean, think about this. They
were less than three minutes away, There was under three
minutes to go at Foxboro in the a f C
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title game. They had a lead to go to the
Super Bowl. That was less than four years ago. What
the hell happened and that that roster take you had
Jalen Ramsey and Studs his Brady point at Leonard four
Nette and there was a player that was missed by
Leonard Fournett in that game. But if you would have said, hey,
less than four years from now, Urban Meyer will have
(18:40):
come and gone, Jalen Ramsey and all those superstars are gone.
Oh and by the way, in the regular season finale,
uh fans are gonna dress up like clowns with a
shot Khan mustache and show up to the game. People
have thought you were crazy. That's what a disaster this
team has been. And and just to see it play,
that's why I'm fast needed to see who they end
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up with as a coach, like like what like what
what is the direction they're gonna take here? And and
Trent Balky. The report is he saved, But I don't
know how you're not looking at this entire thing going.
That's that's the other part of the frustration, right, is
that they're keeping Balky as a part of it. I
think the fans are wise to his track record and
just how this whole thing is run and the fact
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that I mean, he survived the last regime. He was
the hold over from the last regime and and maybe
you know that's if you asked urban Meyer, one of
the mistakes he made was keeping Trent Balky in place
and not having someone that he could bring in that
he trusted that wasn't gonna kneecap him or you know,
talk behind his back to force what happened earlier this season. So,
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I mean, that's that's part of the frustration too, I
think for the fans is is leaving someone in place
that you know how all these leaks got out. You
know how all this stuff came out. It's not that
hard to figure out where the source was, where it
was coming from. And that's the hard thing about any
ororganization when you have that sort of dysfunction going on,
you have to just start over and wipe clean. And
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it's unfortunate for a lot of the people who are
a part of that organization they get caught up in it.
But that's the reality is you've got to wipe the
whole thing clean, build back up and give some of
these young talented players, Trevor Lawrence in particular, a guy
like Josh Allen, Labisca, Channault whoever you want to talk
about James Robinson. You know, you could throw on a
bunch of these young players. They've got talent there, but
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you've got to give them a shot and a chance.
And you're not with the way this organization is operating
operating right now. So good for the fan base there
in Jackson. I just wish there was more than you know,
forty people doing this. And I don't think it's gonna
be a huge showing. It's kind of like, remember they're
trying to get Tebow. They're trying to the Jaguars to
sign Tebow and way back when and they had like
ten people standing outside the stadium was a huge rally.
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But you know that was that was the kind of
drumming up support they really got for it. Well, it's
the older, the old trick in professional wrestling. They call
it papering the arena, where when you know you can't
draw a lot of people, you just got give out
a bunch of free tickets to make sure it looks
like it's more full than it actually is. I mean,
they ought to try that, just start giving out some
free tickets paper that stadium. It's all about the camera angles.
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I mean, you can make like a lot of people
when you get close ups, get kind of like bunched
in together and they're all yelling really in the camera,
and then you actually pan out and you're like, oh, finally,
let me ask you this. Because you live in Florida Jacksonville.
What's the humidity like this time of year? Uh? And
how's that clown makeup gonna feel if they're dressed up
(21:33):
like they're at the circus with the show? Be perfect
outside this time of year. It is why you live
in Florida. In any port, it actually might be. If
I had to guess, I'd say it's like seventy two
up there for game day. It will be perfect weather
for it. But Jacksonville is much different than where you're at, Brady.
I mean, no, no no, no, no, but it ain't that
different this time of year. I mean, I'm the extended forecast,
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and I'll tell you right now, it'll be beautiful weather
up there for what Sunday? Perfect for a clown out? Man,
I'm into high on Sunday in Jacksonville is seventy eight
degree is the lowest sixty two that actually is perfect football.
I'm not lying to you like this is why you
live in Florida this time of year is for the
weather across the entire state. It is beautiful, it's nice,
(22:17):
perfect for football weather. Or if you want to don
a clown costume and put a bunch of makeup on
a fake mustache, this will be the time of year
to really come out and do it. Week eighteen of
the NFL season. Now do you wear do you what
do you have on? What? Can? It is considered a
clown costume because you can't have just the pain and
the wig, like you've got to have a rubber nose.
You gotta have the Yeah, is that what they unitard?
(22:41):
What do they call that? It's like onesie and sometimes
you gloves you had like the collar that that fluffs
out or or you have the jacket, you know, but
it's all got to be signing, you know. That's Uh.
Do you don't have any like props? Like do you
have to have? Yeah? The little horn? What on? Hold
(23:01):
me the clown? Hold me? The clown had that at
that shock? I mean you can bring one of those.
Don't mess around? Yeah? Yeah, beat beat Ritchie. Um, Now
here's this is going to movie. Let's see if Brady
has heard any of the conversations that I've had with
the in laws while on the phone, Brady, what how
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do you say clown? In Spanish? You would say, there
it is, there's my guy right there. You don't know
how I know that. Basically, Jonas calls me a pioso
four times a week. It's just a fun word. I'll
pay attention. You say it to me, I'll punch you
on your face, but I would pay attention to you. Guys,
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aren't you more excited to watch that Jags game now?
Because I know there's like this uh, this you know
thing out there where it's like, well, you know, if
the Jags win that game and the Raiders and Chargers
end in a tie, they could just set it a
tie and both go to That's not happening, all right,
So let's not even have a fake conversation. Yeah, like,
come on, have to when to get in. I mean,
it's it's dumb. It is dumb. But it would be
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amazing though, if it did somehow happen and then you
you looked at the Chargers and Raiders they just looked
at each other and they're like, yeah, we're just gonna
kneel the whole time. That wonderful. Would it would be
amazing to see just to ensure they both couldn't. I
would be curious though, like what the seating would look
like in that case. I don't even know. I haven't
even well. I mean, it would make sense, It would
(24:25):
make the most sense to have it play out that
way if they would have to play each other again
in the first round of the wild card round. But
they couldn't in that case because they both be wild cards,
so obviously they'd be they'd be positioned to play someone else,
you see. I I just I'm more excited to watch
the Jacks game now that I know people are gonna
dress up like that. So whatever, it is the hell
of a hype job for the Jaguars. Who knew it wasna?
(24:47):
What's that? I mean? That should be part of our
over unders. I mean, I'm into it. Who knows? It
could be on Knox Walks as well too, which is
on a torrid pace which, by the way, you can
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And for the good this week, LaVar Arrington, what do
we got? I'm going with We're we're almost there, five
days away from the national championship game, and we're talking
about all these coaches. So I'm going with the good.
Nick Saban, Uh, somewhere close to this this time, this day,
(26:36):
fifteen years ago, flew into Tuscaloosa, Alabama. You made the comment,
what worked out pretty good? I worked out pretty much
pretty good. So I'll say that it's worked out pretty good.
And whether win or lose, which men? If he wins
another one, I mean, the gap gets so much bigger.
So the good, Nick Saban? Great for for college football? Uh,
(27:01):
great coach, one of the best ever. So I'm going
with Nick, I've got the bad this week. My bad
goes to the bad takes that were floating around after
the college football playoff games. Brady and I talked about
this yesterday. The idea that just because we had a
couple of blowouts means that we shouldn't expand the playoffs
is one of the dumbest takes that I've heard in
a long time. It's like the n c A tournament.
(27:22):
If the final four involved two blowouts, nobody's going, well,
we should scrap all the other games now, the opening
ground games or what people get excited about. Listen, uh,
some of these lower seeds may not have a chance,
but they might have a chance against each other. And
the idea that we're just gonna dismiss the entire playoff
expansion because of it doesn't make any sense. It's bad take.
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There's too much money involved. That's also a factor in
all this. So that is my bad for the week.
Brady Quinn has got the ugly this week. I've got
the ugly, and I could go a lot of different directions.
I mean, look, it was ugly the way and Sonyo
Brown left the New York excuse me, left the tap
bait ball. So they're playing in New York. Well, I
mean that's what we assume. Although he's still technically on
(28:05):
a roster right now, he's living pretty but this thing
could get ugly, especially considering some of the information coming
out about the fact that he's got an ankle that
needs surgery, at least according to one specific surgeon that's
speaking out on his behalf. So things could get ugly
there in Tampa. Things could get ugly in New York too.
I feel like we're getting to a point where Joe Judge, well,
(28:27):
he said, hey, if we go out there and we
lay an egg, I deserve to be booed. It could
get pretty ugly then for a Giant's team that I
kind of already packed it in. It seems like for
the season, maybe for Joe Judge as well. But really, finally,
I think a Jacksonville that's where things are gonna get ugly.
It's gonna be interesting to see how shod Khan handles
what is going to be a quote unquote clown show
(28:49):
that's showing up this week for their season finale versus
the Indianapolis Colts, many fans of which donning clown costumes
T shirts which have his signature musta as a part
of that. So in Jacksonville, brilliant the NFL, it's gonna
get ugly for a lot of teams a week eight teams.
And now do you guys think that some of these
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(29:12):
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right now, everybody, we roll out the red carpet in
your ears, and we welcome in the great Petros Papadics.
He was not with us last week. We missed him
dearly the old p on a M five seventy l
a Sports with Matt money Smith, Fox College Football analysts
and a show favorite Petros. How are you Happy New Year? Yeah?
(29:58):
What's going over? Happy New Year? Everything good? Happy New Year.
I looked up Mark Morrison because that reminded me of
that song and I didn't know this. He's a British
performer from Barbadian parents, born in West Germany. He did
have three big singles in the UK off that album
(30:19):
in nineties six uh, other than Return of the Mac.
He had a tripping on that album and Bone and Grown.
It would all reach the UK Top ten, making him
the first artist in British pop history to have five
top ten hits from its something we can all relate
(30:41):
to you about this. He's had a lot of legal issues. Uh.
Running around with a gun in England is bad news.
They're they're all in the much rather you carry a knife.
But yeah, go ahead of You're right. A lot of
staff deaths in the UK, Uh, no doubt about that.
(31:04):
But here's he was in a fight where somebody died
and that usually that's because of a Usually that's because
of a knife. And he paid somebody while he was
doing community service a look alike to run around and
perform Return of the Mac and shared the profits and
he got in trouble for I didn't know about filly
(31:29):
situation sort of. It sounds like some of these coaches
to somebody looked like they'm going Petros, Hey, Petros. If
you could find a doppel gang or someone who looked
or even clone yourself, would you clone yourself or find
someone just like you to step in for you for
a few days a week to our radio, just like
(31:50):
me to find we're talking multiplicity here, we're talking if
you can clone yourself, okay, and just like make somebody
service your wife and all that that's in the movie.
I don't want that in the movie. I don't know
what you guys want. You know, you look up Mark
Morris and all of a sudden start, I don't know
(32:13):
I was capable of Paris or maybe play you in
a game, it says, but not not, you know, not
debate room. You guys have seen young Frankenstein. You know
you must have. He must have an enormous faun stocker.
That goes without saying. I don't know, I I kind of.
I'm just dealing with being myself, Brady. I mean, these
(32:34):
are scenarios that aren't happening. I don't you want me
to clone myself. I think you're so great. We need
more than one of you. That's why I think. I
don't think a lot of people would disagree with you.
A lot of the Rams, the Rams wives have taken
up arms against me. If you've seen this, I don't know.
Matt Stafford's wife is really mad at me, really mad
(32:55):
at me. Went on a whole crazy podcast rant about
me about something I said on Fred's show, which I
don't even remember what I said. I don't know, and
she got mad that I didn't call him. Matthew because
I guess that's what they wanted. Well, I know some
people that moved to different neighborhoods and they kind of
(33:17):
wanted to change their name, you know, to sound more boogie.
I mean I called some Lions games and I called
him Matt. Then I feel like, did I not have
like my grandfather claused in well, when you're in Detroit,
it's okay to say Matt because he went. You know,
I remember a lady who moved to a nicer neighborhood
that lived next door to us when we were kids,
(33:37):
and her name was Debbie, and then she moved to
the other neighborhood and her name was then Deborah. Right,
So I understand trying to reinvent yourself when you come
to l A. He's not the first guy. But the
that wife got all mad at me and went on
and some kind of podcast rant, and then the wit
worst wife got after me on Twitter on Sunday night
(34:00):
that yeah, and said that I was stupid and I
don't know what I'm talking about, which is all true.
So so that and then a couple of years ago,
my old friend Johnny Hacker got mad at me, uh
and got after me on the Twitter, What the hell
did you say? I don't know these rams are really
(34:21):
you know, I think they are used to St. Louis
and everybody just like giving him a new room massage,
and they came out here to Los Angeles. It's a
little bit different. There's people that that don't really feel
like they need to compliment to keep their jobs. I mean,
who knew that the challenge with Fred Rogan was such
a hop at a controversy. It's always been that way.
(34:42):
I had a high school coach sue me for slander once,
as I said, as I said, they had popcorn muscles
or something, I sue you for slander. Well yeah, I
sent him a two word response. But is that a
real thing now? Like well, I mean, anybody can send
a letter threatening to sue any buddy for anything. Well yeah,
(35:02):
friends assume me a couple of times. Now. Your coworkers petroms,
yes we are rich eyes and has threatened to assume
something I said about his wife. She wasn't broadcasting, and
she kept bringing her dog to USC practice and it
bothered me. You bring your dog to practice where people
(35:25):
may not true. You want to know how to never
get back on the rich eyes and show. I said,
like one joke about Michigan to him. I've never been
asked to come back on since he's literally but our
industry is filled with self important people like that, you know.
I mean, if you think about it, these are people
that grew up practicing in the mirror saying things like
(35:48):
welcome bad. I've practiced in the mirror of pops Yeah,
getting swollen. But the other thing about rich Eyes Psycho
is you know what, it always always gives me a
little bit of a yeah. It always gives me a
little bit of a of pause when it says in
a guy's resume that he's a former comedian, you know,
(36:12):
like he's somehow no longer funny. I mean yeah. And
by the way, Pe, if you're gonna be at a
radio road for the Super Bowl this year, and I
hope you are, because I know how much you'll hate it,
I think I'm gonna be forced to do that, but
I'm gonna lobby so hard against it, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna make uh concessions and and really negotiate with
(36:36):
Don Martin. I hate There's nothing I hate more than
my colleagues in sports. Every everything you loathe about sports
media that you've just described is going to be there
at Radio Row. Oh yeah, I just I don't want
to see myself in St. Louis, You know what I mean?
Because what the guy that does what I do in St.
(36:57):
Louis like it. It shakes me to the core. He
wears a polo that says like the ticket, the Beast,
the fan or something on it. It's all bacon. Yeah,
it's all bacon necked. You know the color is because
he's washed in a thousand times because he wears it
(37:19):
to every event. Dockers and you know, they just they
they all like clamor to do the Troy Aikman interview,
and half the interview is he's promoting like Washington apples.
I like Washington apples at one point in my life.
We all like apples LaVar. But the promotion, now you've
done this, I'm sure like they give you something to
(37:41):
promote and you just go around Radio Row talking about
it right from show talking about the shot though, that's
what he's talking about. Yeah, it is a good shot.
It is a drink. What about you, Brady, what do
you go around promoting I know you've done I'll say
this the one of the last times I went to
radio row UM that was promoting I think when I
was working, I got to do shots with them at
(38:03):
Smith of His Tequila and I was like, they say
that bad of a job, right, Yeah, if you get
to take shots while you're walking, you know, I don't.
I don't disregard that. I mean, and I'll be honest.
I literally the most unprofessional moment in probably my life
was when because there was all all these setups right,
(38:24):
like it is kind of a crazy, crazy deal. At
least it pre COVID it used to be right and
there's all these people everywhere and these I think it
was like the I don't know, it wasn't Victorious Secrets,
but it's like the s I like swimsuit models. All
these these girls came by, um just gorgeous, like most
beautiful chicks on the planet, and I was just like wow.
(38:46):
And for like five minutes, I was like trying to
figure out why they're there, what they were doing, and
apparently they had a show, and so I didn't say
anything for about five minutes on radio sitting there, we
had a guest and I just completely was nex say
do I'm like, what was happening and trying to figure
out that situation. And I was just like, at some
point I snapped out of it. It It was like, oh yeah,
(39:07):
I'm actually working right now. But that's like Radio Row.
It's like it's a it's a spectacle, it's a circus.
It's everywhere you look, there's something it is. It is horrible.
You know what, the are some good parts, it's the no,
they're not. It's the equivalent of It's the equivalent of
a of a wedding that has a cash bar and
then they do a money dance, you know. Like that's
(39:30):
what radio Row is. And yeah, I hate everybody wants
to do his during COVID. I I didn't know he
was married. I just thought he did radio all day.
But no, I I despise the super Bowl and it's
(39:53):
coming to l A. And I'm afraid that I'm going
to have to be more involved than I normally am.
And I I am already trying to find angles to
get out of it. Maybe LaVar can be me. I
can say he had cloned myself. Yeah, yeah, you know
this whole COVID thing. Man, I just you know, I
might not be able to go. Yeah, yeah, I can
do that. Yeah, right, let's work this angle double mask.
(40:16):
Who's who's that guy? I don't know. I mean, you
gotta think about you, but you gotta think about It's
five thirty seven, We're almost done. Who's going to be
on radio row while we're there. Well, that's the thing. Everybody,
you know, like you guys will be very busy on
radio Row. That's the thing. My show not seven am, Matt, Yeah, no, no, no,
(40:38):
Because you think about it, it's it's it's eight thirty
seven am everywhere else. So all the shows, every morning
show in the country. Yea. My radio partner and I
we sit there at the Radio Row. And you know, basically,
if you want to go do your show at the
radio Row and get anybody, you have to go and
(40:58):
take the whole goddamn because by three o'clock everybody's gone.
It's six o'clock on the East coast. Petros did you
uh did you do a game with Matt money Smith?
Did I see that? On Sunday, Daniel Jeremiah got COVID again.
So I was on vacation in the desert, driving back
from the Boomers, listening to my son and wife argue
(41:21):
about backmarker racing and the go kart. She got really
mad when my son wouldn't let her through. I was surprised.
I didn't know my wife was like racer X. She
was really pissed, like she's trying to run him off
a cliff like speed racer where people just die. You know,
that's a funny In speed Racer, like ten people would
die per race and it'd just be like no one
(41:43):
cared and the only way everybody off the cliffs. But yeah,
Don Martin called me, said, mom, Am, I wanted to
wish it happened to year. That's so yeah. I guess
I didn't screw it up bad enough the first time
they asked me to do it, but I had never
(42:05):
been Why did you just sound just like them? Though
we do a lot of them, Give me a little more, Don,
At the end of the night, it's about the three
you working together. That's the match. It's a little early
for me to really I'm a grandmother. My uh. It
(42:28):
is so spot on, and they're probably there's probably five
or six people they get the joke in the tone.
But we take our we take our work for it.
That is exactly that is spot on radio executive Don
Martin our boss, a k A. Our boss. That's Rob,
don't you forget it? And I just got a new title,
(42:50):
so Don called me and he and uh, that was
nice to them. I had never been, uh two. And
it's easy to work with Matt obviously we've been doing
so in a game with a guy you work with
for four hours a day for fifteen years is a
little different than you know, having to go do a
game with I don't know, Jason Bennonette, Bennettetti or whenever
(43:12):
you know who I've never met. But I will say this,
I had never been to a regular season NFL game
before in my life, and I had only been to
two preseason games previously. So the thing that trips me
out about the NFL, like when you're watching the game
and the whole field is there, you know, like when
you're in the stadium, I should say, uh, man, there
(43:33):
is nowhere to go. There is nowhere to go in
an NFL game with the way the hash marks are placed,
it's just, uh, it's so different from college football with
the lack of space out there, and the level of
play is just excellent, you know, I mean, it's really uh,
it really is a great product, There's no doubt about it.
(43:55):
But I prefer the college game and the chaos and
the anger. Can I just ask you one quick question
before we let you go, because I would love your
perspective on everything that happened with A B. I mean,
it's obviously continuing to unfold, but I want what was
your general what was your initial reaction to what took place?
(44:18):
I was not surprised, but I played with a volatile
wide receiver in college. No, No, he wasn't. Yeah, yeah,
and uh he's he's my year. R J. Soward came
out in two thousand, right, I think, Yeah, we played
a year without him. I played three years with him. Yeah, me,
(44:40):
and I know r J sowerd Okay, go ahead, you
know and uh and and r J is a great guy,
and I liked him when we played together. But uh,
you know, those guys can be detrimental or destructive to
a team. We've seen it throughout the years. There's a
lot between a wide receiver, no matter how good they are,
and the football. There's the quarterback that's got to throw
(45:01):
it straight. There's the line's got to block it, right,
they gotta call the play. You've got to be in
the progression, you know, all those things that go into
these guys getting the ball, and it's become and they
don't pay their dues physically on a down end and
down out basis. I think you guys would agree with that,
(45:22):
right like no, not like people in the box. So
they have a tendency to be a little bit more
cocky than others because they haven't been humbled over and
over and over again. I don't know what's going on
with Antonio Brown. He's obviously uh maybe he has some issues.
Maybe he's just a difficult personality. I'm not sure, but
(45:44):
I wasn't I wasn't surprised. I hadn't seen anything like
that before. But for some reason, I wasn't surprised. What
surprises me is what's happened in the aftermath. I guess
they try to kick him off the team, but now
he's not out injury stuff out there, and yeah, so
now the union is going to be involved. If you
(46:04):
might skate again on this, union's always gotta get involved.
You know that works? Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean,
it's a major distraction to a football team, but in
two what isn't you know? I mean, if it happened
in our day, we talk about it every day for
the rest of our lives. Right if I don't want
(46:24):
to sit around here like Kirk Herbstreet and Desmond Howard
and sound like an idiot talking about how the way
things used to be. I mean, when we played, there
weren't billion dollar TV deals, Coaches didn't make eight million
dollars a year, players couldn't transfer without being penalized. I mean,
it's a different time in football, so I don't want
to sound like an old man yelling at a cloud.
(46:46):
I'm pretty sure Antonio Brown's got some kind of mental issue, though,
because I do and I can recognize it in others.
Get him on Twitter at the old p Everybody got
it over the last ten to twelve minutes here on
far Sports Radio, Petro's Great Avenue Back, Happy New Year.
Let's do it again next week. Yeah, I'll still be here.
I hope I'm around
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