January 7, 2022 • 37 mins
on Friday's Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington recap the last 24 hours for Antonio Brown that included the Bucs cutting him and an OnlyFans model detailing his night before the walk-off. They question if his stats are enough to get him into the Hall of Fame despite the problem with his character. Plus, a look ahead to the AFC Playoff race in week 18.
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Antonio Brown situation is has taken more twists and turns
uh that I can recall in the last day. I mean,
let's just do a quick, little fun, more twisted night.
Let's let's do it. Just stay a quick little rundown
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of Antonio Brown over the last twenty four hours here,
all right, so let's go ahead. Let's let's recap what
we got here. So Antonio Brown later in the show
yesterday posted the text message exchange with Bruce Arians. Now
we will be hearing from Bruce Arians here shortly. So
there's that that went out. Then he posted the message
to Alex Guerrero, tom Brady's trainer, looking for his money back.
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Now in one of those messages, I don't know if
he intentionally posted his bank account information, but that all
have made the circles on the web. And then also
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers responded. They decided to outright cut
Antonio Brown. He took shots at Tom Brady and a
fun little uh like poster a flyer that he posted
on social media. He was really making the rounds. There
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was reports out from Adam Schefter that said Antonio Brown
wanted to have his incentives guaranteed that the Bucks refused,
and that led to some of the discourse and some
of the issues that he had with the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers and Bruce Arians and their general manager. On the
sideline and then to top it all off, the cherry
on the Sunday so to speak and only fans model
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known for licking a toilet seat to intentionally get COVID,
says that Antonio Brown snuck her into the Bucks team
hotel Saturday night, that two of them had a little
bit of the horizontal mambo, and then she decided to
post the social media afterwards that she has tested po
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doesn't it for COVID, informing the Bucks they should go
ahead and test the whole team, and that concludes twenty
four hours in the life of Antonio Brown, the former
NFL wide receiver. Tease me, baby Brady, sometimes we're gonna
be saying, we're gonna be saying former NFL wide receiver
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when we describe Antonio Brown moving forward that you know,
there's uh, there's always that saying that you know, talent
supersedes character and teams you know you're gonna be able
to move on from this dysfunction if you're in the
chase for a ring, not in this case, alright, like
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like this is not gonna be a case. I almost
want to make a bet on live here, like you
made the one time, even though you didn't pay up
your bet. I know you're talking about in regards to
Tony Romo. I mean I would be shocked, floored, might
drop dead of a heart attack if he signs with
another team, Like this has to be over yesterday. I
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feel like I tried to like hear his side, see
his side in this whole thing. I tried to be like, hey,
maybe there's this other side that things. This is like,
this is like kind of my Cleveland Brown's early days.
This is the kind of stuff that went on back then,
when you're going, Holy cow, this all happened the night
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before a game. And I do love the wild card
that is this only fans um. I don't I don't
know what to call her model coronavirus challenge girl. I
do love how she gets involved in this whole thing,
if not only for the coronavirus challenge and testing positive
and being concerned about his own well being. Is now
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there's a sex tape because they taped all of it,
and and then she's the one leaking out that he's
the one saying like, wait till you see what happens tomorrow.
I don't know if he meant that more, it's like, wait,
do you see me how I play tomorrow? Or if
this was something that was predetermined, maybe I think it's
all out there, Brady. Maybe he meant tomorrow morning before
he leaves. Let me get some sleep, right now, girlfriend,
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you got toilet toilet seats and wait till you see
what happens tomorrow. You know we wake up right. You know?
What you can't misinterpret is that this is the behavior
of a superstar. Like if you look at superstars that
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are chronicle and the things that they do and how
they do it. It's funny because and entertainment and in music,
that stuff is praised. The more outrageous you can be,
the more famous, the more popular you become. But that's
in a different industry. That's a different category. And and
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and let me let me, let me tie this together
for you because I used music industry. What does Antonio
Brown really thinks he is an artist? I think he's
an artist, right, So he's just released his rap song, this,
that and the other. Right, he believes he's an artist.
So when you look at the behavioral patterns that that
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he's exhibiting, he's exhibiting those of not what a football
player would be in essence, it's what a celebrity that
that's in the entertainment industry would be all this, all
that's going on right now, he's he is strengthening his
followership because that's how social media works these days. That's
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I've got an update for you. Oh come on, well,
I was justna say right now, how many Instagram followers?
Or would you say he has, Oh, he's in the
he's in the millions, have a million, six point one million?
There you good for him? Man, so and and here's
the thing. Or if you're if you're if you're able
to monetize what you're doing through the people that you
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build out into your your your personal community. Now think
about this. You want to know why Shorty girl was
there the seat liquor an idea? Why she was well,
I mean outside outside of that, outside of that, Roberto, Uh,
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she's there because she's going to put their information out
there where she gets the attention for what it is
that she's doing. So she's leveraging him for the celebrity
status as well. The same difference of the moving truck people.
The same difference. I won't say the baby Mama because
that's different, but anybody who has come out against Antonio Brown,
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the chef. They are all doing it for exposure because
he an easy target. He makes himself an easy target
for people to get followership, for them to get exposure.
And that's what's going on right now, and he subscribes
to it. That's the crazy thing about it, is that
he subscribes to that, that exposure and that that entertainment
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value of what's going on. The only problem is that
doesn't fit in every facet of football. Football is way
too structured. There's way too many things in place, protocols
that don't allow for you to even like us versus basketball,
we don't have the same luxuries that they have. So
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he chose the wrong sport. I don't know what other
sport he would have been able to be good at.
He's had a Hall of Fame caliber career, but more
context to like the celebrity entertainer, rapper whatever you wanna
call so TikTok, which is it's it's a newer platform.
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Right for those people who don't know, like I personally
don't really understand TikTok. I think you just make short
videos and people send him back and forth when they
post him, right, And I don't. I don't know if
he has an account and trying to look into it.
But again that's how little I am tech savvy. But
for if you just type in his name, Okay, think
about this, He's got a hundred and eighties six million
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views just typing in his name. There's one hashtag in
video in particular that almost has a hundred and seventy
million views. So just so because it's hard to wrap
your head around this, because I think most people they
think about movies, they can think about shows or Netflix
and streaming. We're venturing into a world where there's a
younger generation coming up that's entertained by brands or people
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and they just go on a phone, they go on
an iPad and they look at something like TikTok and
they look at these short videos, you know, either over
and over again or a variety of videos on a
certain person or a certain topic. And he is in
that category of a personality or celebrity if you want
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to call it that that like warrants a lot of views,
And like you're seeing the blending of sports and entertainers
to a degree, especially on social media platforms. Much like
Jake Paul. You think about He's literally come from an
influencer background into sport and merge the two and then
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has been able to parlay it into making money boxing
and who knows if it becomes something else with mm A.
I mean, he even he even made his statement the
other day that he wants to play safety in the NFL.
He thinks he's big enough, strong enough and wants to
you know, crackheads with people and thinks that he could
be good at that, which is a whole another topic.
But that's what this is like. For people who think
that Antonio Brown is just gonna go away, I'm telling
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you what I said, Like I would be entertained to
why someone like a Big Brother series, just so I know,
he's a Dancing with the Stars that's a structured, more
kind of proper format. This is different. Like this dude's
still gonna be in the limelight even though he's not
gonna be playing football anymore. Hell, could you imagine any
the startup leagues the XFL, USFL, if they were to
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get him on their roster, he could make a few
meal just off of that for a short and season.
I mean, he let's be on the guy's a disaster
and Also, I think you guys are a little bit disrespectful.
And I'm not trying to air you guys out because
you know you're you're my brothers, you know. I I
would last thing I want to do is air anybody
out here on the air. But her name is Aba Louise,
not toilet liquor. So I think it's a little bit insulted.
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I'm sorry. I didn't know. I didn't see it anywhere.
I just saw a few shots that looked like, um,
you know, there's some peaks of valleys, and then I
saw a looking of a toilet. I did my show prep,
and during my show prep, I watched that video and
I studied it very thoroughly to make sure that I
was not misrepresenting toilet liquor and and and that's all
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I could come up with. Yeah, I fell do it worrible.
I started seeing all kinds of other stuff. Yeah, that
was productive. Yeah, that's one of those incognito mode search
search engines you'd use. But I just I also think
you gotta go incognito mode if you want to look
up certain things. Yeah, I also say this, Um, you know,
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I feel like you know, Antonio Brown is a liar.
And here's here's why I think Antonio Brown is a liar.
And a lot of people are gonna say, what is it?
The stuff on the sideline was did he tell the
bucks he was injured? And like all of that, All
of that may be true, but I seem to recall
him tweeting out a hashtag no more white women. I mean,
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I mean, there's clear evidence here that that is not
the case if you believe women too. Though yes, it's
a New Year's actually technically right, Sorry, I got you
right back in the whole stair. I apologize year. Unbelievable man.
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And you know here, here's the thing though, you look
at his number Sunday, Yeah when he said it, so yeah,
back see he would pull out the text messages on
you and put him out there on Jonas, You're not
credible in the media because of what you just did.
That's that's what you do. At some point, he's gotta
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he's gonna I don't know when it's gonna happen, Probably
not for a long time. But do you think he's
going to look back at the end of his at
the end of everything and just say, why did I
screw that up? Like he's he's literally he's less than
eighty catches away from a thousand from his career. Let
me have this one. We just talked about the influencer
aspect of what what people are doing. He has become
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one of the most influential football players in the game.
Even out of the game, he has come one of
the most influential guys. This is what drives people these days.
Said that this is a reality for some guys, but
for guys like him, that is a reality is to
become as big of an influencer as you can possibly become.
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Why so that you can leverage it and monetize yourself.
Guys like like Ocho Sinko who didn't even really know
it that they were branding themselves in a way where
it would be sustainable post career. He's probably more successful
now in his post career than he was in his
career playing. These guys all running the same circles, so
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they understand that he's gonna come out with a podcast,
he's gonna come out with an album, he's gonna come
out with a TV show, he's gonna come out with
a Netflix series, he's gonna come out with a Amazon
Prime series. Whatever it may be, because that viewership that
Brady just brought up to you is monetize able by
these companies, and as long as they can monetize through
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these companies, a b's relevance is the fact that everybody
will be watching to see what is he going to
do next? And that is the element of surprise that
guys like Antonio Brown are leveraging these days. It's not
even about the game anymore, man brand, Dude, you gotta
get used to it, because that's that's how they're I mean,
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I remember early on like hearing people say that to
you and not really fully understanding it because I don't
know that we were in a place in society to
fully utilize that. But now with the way social media
has has changed things, I mean, you really are essentially
when you create an account, you were putting a public
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platform out there that just represents you. It's it's almost
like a resume, but it's more than that because it's
not just professional. It's social, right, it could be political,
it could be all these different things, and it's basically
broadcasting out to the entire world a piece or all
in this case of who you kind of are or
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at least who you want to portray yourself, and you
can profit off that, to LaVar's point, now more than
ever because of the streaming and all these different platforms
of people who are dying for content, and they're dying
for the ability to look at someone like Antonio Brown
who can look at them and say, I can take
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my six point one million Instagram followers and I can
get ten percent of them to watch this. And you
know how powerful that is to say, all right, ten percent,
right of six point one million, six thousand, that's a lot,
Like that's more than that's think about that's more than
some like Big twelve football games, not Oklahoma, but it
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likes to be real, like that's more than a live sport.
That's probably double a Kansas game. But and you think
about the rights fees that a network pays for to
be able to podcast a live event, which is king.
Live sports are king in this country, NFL in particular.
But think about the ability to do that. And so
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if you can do that as an individual, get to
LaVar's point, you're selling it like you could sell whatever
you want to. I mean, ten percent might be you know,
in some cases, if you've got a loyal following and
they can measure all that that might be a low number.
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Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Looking at his numbers, he's got
all the credentials to be a Hall of Famer. Like,
it's all there. Like he's got better numbers and some
guys that are in the Hall of Fame by far.
He's got a Super Bowl ring, he's got all pros,
he's got all the Pro Bowls. Everything's there, and he's
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literally going to toss it to the side to go
be an influencer. I mean, you can't be an influencer
in three years. It's for money. But yeah, I'll say
this for what it's worth. The Hall of Fame in
a lot of ways is is it creates the immortality
of what your career represented. But when you talk to
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I always talked to guys about being good dudes, because
the longevity of of your earning capacity is dictated by
the person that you are. While you're playing the game.
Can I just say one, two pros and a cup
of Joe Fox Sports Radio, Bam, all right, thanks, that's nice,
I d tag you know do all right? Uh so,
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so he's a professional. So imagine if if six hundred
thousand a million people just heard what what you just said,
Joan's that's monetize herbal and and we can do this
job until literally they cart us up out of here,
maybe on a gurney with a with a sheet over us,
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right Like, that's the reality of it. Our earning capacity
goes from what a football players is three and a
half on average of an earning capacity in that profession
before you have to change and settle up on what
that is and come to terms with the fact that
you're not going to play the game anymore and move
on with your life and and and that's something that
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you have to take into consideration. I don't like his approach,
but I will say this, pretty boy, Floyd Mayweather was
not in everybody's face. He was not a hot ticket
to purchase his his pay per view buys. But when
he became money Mayweather, everything changed. And that was that
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was deliberate by him. That was deliberate he had two
ways that he could go. He could continue being pretty
boy Floyd, and he admitted he's decided to turn into
the villain. Villains Hills are and in this society, and
as Brady so Well puts, this cesspool of of hatred
that goes on in and in the social media raums.
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That's all you're looking for. You know what you're looking for.
You're looking for t n A. You're looking for somebody
that that holds your attention outside of the t n
A And you want to sit there and and you
want to be able to be in your wonderous with
with your big big bowl of cereal and and judge
people and feel like this guy is is an amazing talent,
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but he's no better than me. That's what people want.
The common person wants to be able to relate to
somebody who's not common. And that's what a b is.
And that's why you have so many apologists for him,
because there's a whole bunch of people sitting at home, like,
you know what, I would have threw my shoulder pads
and my helmet off as well. My ankle was sore.
I'm not gonna deal with that. I'm gonna go running
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off of the field and I'm gonna wave my hand
all of the fans like you. I don't see many
people defending him, after all what came out over the pair.
Are still people justifying that it's his mental health. He well,
that's one thing, and I do think, Look, I'm not
gonna go into that room because I don't know him
like that, and I can't speak, and and no, none
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of these people do people. And they're not doctors, so
you're not clinically diagnotes and his dude for having mental
health issues. I think the interesting thing is he's he's
ticked off so many people though that like would try
to defend him, like all those people who want to
get crazy about Corona or COVID. It's like, well, there
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you go, Like they weren't even a part of this party.
And then now with like bringing in someone from the outside,
bringing protocols, the girl who started the coronavirus challenge, like
that's who he's with, and then all of a sudden
she tests positive. Afterwards, Now they're like, I should test
the whole team. It's like, okay, Now, imagine if they
can't play, Imagine if they have a pop of a
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whole bunch of COVID cases. Thank god they change the protocol.
But but I'm just saying, like that crew wasn't a
part of the Antonio Brown conversation. They are now, Like
now all those people who want to get all fired
up about that, they could be a part of it.
So I just it's it is interesting. But back to
the Hall of Fame case. I mean, he had a
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six year stretch between the seasons of two thousand thirteen
two thousand eighteen, I think he had a legitimate case
of being the best wide receiver in the game. And
he led the league in yards twice, he led in
touchdowns once, he led in receptions twice. He was what
you said, a four time All Prome. I mean, that's
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that's hard. It's hard to do. Like usually when you're
voting on a Hall of Fame and you're like, all right,
was he the best player at his position for a
period of time And you could literally statistically look at
his stats during his his prime in Pittsburgh and say yes,
from the age to thirty, he was one of the best,
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if not the best. I mean even at thirty he
led the league in touchdown receptions. You know, if you
look at twenty six years old, he's leading the league
of receptions and yards. That's significant. Never he's better than
Calvin Johnson, Like his numbers are better than Calvin Johnson
who just got in. But they do take character into consideration.
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And that's and that's to your point. He's not in
a good situation right now. But that's why that's what
stinks too for him, is because now how he'll live
in eternity forever and I don't know, maybe they'll change
how they view you know, the Hall of Fame or
voting and all that. But instead of living and shrined
forever in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, mccaton now
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he's you know, turning into the villain whatever you want
to call him. This the social media celebrity. It will
end up being more of that than it is about football,
which is kind of a crazy time in our lives
to be able to admit that, and just the idea
that at some point he's not going to look back
and say, damn, I did all of this for like
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a two or three year run on social media just
just to be an influencer. Like, to me, guys like
that are a dime a dozen like they really are.
Like you can find somebody who's got a lot of
Twitter followers or YouTube followers or snap face or whatever
you want to call it, but how many guys are
actually in the pro football there's always least. They're all
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he's got to do. It's just not be a disaster,
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barrel action in the NFL on a Saturday, even though
it's a football Friday's Brady pointed out, it is a
double NFL Saturday and it kicks off with the Chiefs
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at listen, you know it just Chiefs Broncos. You know,
a little Saturday action here, uh the Brady Quinn Bowl
at two teams Brady Quinn played for so uh, so
we got that here on a Saturday. We know that
Denver is gonna probably be making some changes head coach
and quarterback I'm assuming in the off season. Correct, That's
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how this is gonna go with Vic Fangio, who's going
to be the uh, the fall guy there in Denver
for the for the issues there Brady, you think, are
we're moving on? Yeah? I wish that wasn't the case.
I think defensively, you know, he's regarded as one of
the better defensive minds, and you look at how they've
played defensively over his tenure. I mean, they've had their
bad games, but for the most part, they've been pretty solid.
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It's been their offense that's struggled. They need to find
a quarterback. That's the bottom line. This is a talented roster.
So that and and an o c um that could
open some things up more I think are warranted. But again,
the powers that be you know that at b and
with everything that's been reported, it sounds like they're gonna
be looking for a new head coach as well. And
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so the the situation in the a f C for
Kansas City Tennessee is at the clown show literally at Jacksonville.
So if Tennessee wins, uh, they're going to clinch the
one seed in the a f C playoffs, which means
Derrick Henry great opportunity to buy more time with the
bye week to come back and be ready to go.
They've already's already been practicing with the team. Uh, Kansas
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City would then Uh, if they take care of business
and it's Denver, they're going to be locked into the
two seed. I thought it was Indian plan Jack's Uh, yeah,
that's who am I confusing for Tennessee is playing Houston. Okay,
Tennessee said Houston. They think they are ten points were
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though it was just the clown show. Becuse I'm crossing
the street. Here's the crazy thing about that game. It's
a huge spread. It was the fifteen and a half,
sixteen and six. Okay, here's the crazy thing about that.
India has not played well there. Do you know Jacksonville's
one against Indie in Jacksonville last year the year before that,
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So basically the last time Indianapolis one in Jacksonville was
two thousand and fourteen. It's a weird stat I think
about that. I mean and well, because last season that
was the season open I remember that with Jacksonville upset.
I'm Gardner Minshew outplayed Philip Rivers and then Jacksonville went
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on to lose every single game afterwards. The domino effects.
If Jacksonville beats Indie, it opens up that crazy scenario
for the Charges in Vegas where if they edited it's
high they both get in. It opens up the chance
for Baltimore if they beat Pittsburgh to get it or
vice versa, then those two, you know, they ate a
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little bit of stuff to happen. But again, it's crazy
how that one game could set off a domino effect
for the rest of the a f C wild card
teams plan it out for a playoff spot and so
when we see Tennessee, who's also a big favorite at
Houston ten point favorite, assuming they're gonna win, take care
of business, and Tennessee is going to be one, Houston
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beat the crap out of them picks. I I just
it feels like like we feel confident that Tennessee should
be able to get it done at Houston. So that
so even if Tennessee does get the one seed. I
Houston showed life though they did, but I I still
look at the a f C and I go, this
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is Kansas City's conference. Like, even though Cincinnati beat him
last week, I didn't come away from last week's game
thinking to myself, Man, I'd be really concerned if I
was Kansas City. I still think Kansas City is the
best team in the conference, regardless of Tennessee having the
one seed. I don't think the Chiefs are fearful to
have to go into Tennessee to try and get to
a super Bowl. I think Kansas City is is the
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most susceptible in this dominant run they've had. That's what
I'll say. I mean watching the Cincinnati game back, I
don't know what the defensive game plan was for Jamaar Chase.
But there are some times where you just running wide open,
I mean wide open, and that's maybe just a bad
matchup for them or their defense. But to LaVar's point,
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this is the most susceptible they've been. I would I mean,
I wouldn't put even like the Tennessee Titans are. That
seems that. I think it's really interesting if Derrick Henry,
which he's already practicing, if he could come back and
be like of what he was, which you know, I
like the statu we throw it a few weeks ago,
it was like he was like top five and rushing.
He plays October. We're talking about like the ending of
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the season. But if he could come back and be
at the close to full strength, if Julio Jones could
pitch in anything along with a J. Brown, that's a
dangerous team, man Like that Tennis Tennessee has been able
to continue to get better on defense and survive and
be the one seed they got one less game to
play a whole field throughout Like that's that's a kind
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of maybe a surprising team or a dangerous team to
keep an eye on. Two Uh, I don't trust any
of them, and that's why I think this is going
to be an amazing playoff scenario that that plays out
in unfolds because I don't trust any of them, not
not a one, Not Kansas City, not not Cincinnati, not Buffalo,
(30:50):
not Tennessee, not not I was really riding and pushing
Indianapolis as as the team to watch, and I still
think they are, but I don't trust them. There's just
not one team I said here and say, you know
what that they got It? Is it dem Or is
that Carson Once? You don't trust because it feels like
they're that's that's an issue. It could be a combination.
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It could be a combination because right last week I
was like, man, I was talking so good about them
and then they go and do that. I just, you know,
the bills. They look like they're showing up and turning
into playoff bills. But they may get into the playoffs
and act like a team that that has lost games
they shouldn't have lost. So I mean, and so as
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as as Kansas City, Kansas City did the same exact thing.
Buffalo is the second favorite to get to a Super
Bowl out of the a f C. And I don't
get it. I just I don't know what people have
seen with Buffalo and and Brady and I have been
ball washing Josh Allen and the Josh Allen experienced for
a couple of years. Ah well, not too good. I mean,
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but like last week, look, man, Atlanta was in game
like Atlanta, Atlanta was in that game at times, and
I'm watching them going, what the hell is that? I Like,
I have no I have no confidence in Buffalo that
that that's a team that's gonna make a run or
a team that's gonna be a threat. I I have
more confidence in Cincinnati than I do Buffalo being a
being an actual threat in the a f C. I
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think that the Charges get in there, another team to
keep an on, Like we know Herbert Special. We know
they can rush the passer and cover. I mean they
can't stop the run and they don't really run the
football necessarily well, but I mean that's another team you
could get on kind of a hot streak. Yeah, look,
any of these teams at this point, Like that's what's
gonna be fascinating about this year's playoffs is I think
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you're gonna find tighter spreads, better games, and maybe some
surprises and maybe it's not gonna be Kansas City Green Bay, Right, like,
looking at two of the teams that we typically pick
us some of the favorites, maybe will be a different
matchup this year. Yeah, I I just and so we
get to wait to see how all the the seating
and scenarios play out. But Chargers Raiders is the big one,
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and uh, you know, I know everybody on this show
is probably you know, because Eddie Garcia and his wife,
you know, take up theirs to the Chargers obviously this
games in Vegas that they won't be there, but you
know that's that's the only person on this shop as
interest on that game. Because there's no other Raider fan
on this show. There's no other So we're we're I
think we're all looking for the Chargers to go ahead
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and close this thing out on Sunday night. And then
they come in and how is the sporting out? Behind
the scenes, it's like Roberto and Eddie talking. Yeah, Roberto
looks real serious right now, like he like he wants beef.
He has beef in his eyes, and I mean like
like never mind, but Berto gave up on the Raiders
(33:39):
weeks ago. The terrible I Want Matt that was that
was Berto and now he's back. He said, you won't.
He won't go to the bar anymore to watch him
like you, you completely gave up the course. So there's
(34:00):
just here the crappy has Chargers. All right. Let me
ask you guys this, who's the more interesting team in
the playoffs? Raiders are Chargers because I think it's the
Chargers Charger ball washer, come Erto, listen. I'm just say, Roberto,
would you take Justin Herbert over Derek Carr? Yes, you
(34:21):
said you would take Matt Ryan. Don't you dare do
that on Derek Carr? Don't you do that? Yeah? I would.
But everybody watching the Chargers balls, What are the Chargers
ever done for? Everybody watched their balls every year? I
mean what do they do to the playoffs? Every years?
(34:48):
Every year? At least there was a lot of balls,
and it's too many balls. There's see. I would say
those about I would say this about the Chargers. I mean,
they had they had down faults. What do they win nothing? Yeah,
you're gonna disrespect sand Humphries likes out healthy. The Raiders
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haven't won a super Bowl in they put in the
Superbowl before the last time when the super Bowl was
O O three. That's on the Chargers when Eddie. Oh
come on, man, you you were were you even old
enough to watch them beat Joe Theisman in the Super Bowl? Who?
Who answer? Who was the last team to the Raiders?
Are the Chargers? You have the Raiders doing that Super Bowl? Yeah?
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But who was the last tea Togo? You were just
saying that the Raiders? Good? Yeah? Who did that? Chargeable?
I forgot? That? Is that when the lineman went to
Tijuana and decided not to come plays? Wow? Well listen,
I mean yeah, if you think, if you think of man,
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you know, is that the first like Antonio Brown's style move?
You think was that war after Eugene Robinson? Getting that
was after Eugene was a little bit before that was
with the Dirty Bird which Jamal and nine and something
like that a little bit earlier. This might be more
of a current event question, but like, how different is
like only fans from like the you know word you
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just used before? You know? Yeah, Burt, Oh, how different
is it? Oh? Big difference? I don't know. I think
the NFL needs to come up with a platform of
something like only fans. Yeah, well for guys like Antonio,
I mean what they and Eugene is a good dude,
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Eugene Robinson, you know, yeah, I think that would be
only for only their fans. And then now they have
the leeway to to be as as unruly as they
like and they don't get in trouble or fine for it.
Just keep it on this platform, behind this thing. You
have to worry about the NFL, you know, he's not.
I'm just saying for the ones in the future. There
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will be more, Yeah, there will be more, but I
mean we do have you know, it's good to know
we have some show beef going into Sunday nights. Did
you hear that? Yeah? That's real, man, Just isn't that.
I don't care and I don't boilers. I want my
wife to be happy, but it's not. The stealers like
to be miserable. And there's no reason for there's no
reason for me and Eddie to get into that type
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of discussion right now because we're not talking to stealers.
Disrespect the great Karen Garcia like that. How could you
wonderful one? We support her, yeah, a die hard fan,
but we want we want she doesn't you know, she
doesn't quit on her teammate very the week like, you know,
let's say you'd rather have Matt Ryan. I mean, yeah,
she's definitely not. It's unbelievable. All right, all right, there
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Antonio Brown situation is has taken more twists and turns
uh that I can recall in the last day. I mean,
let's just do a quick, little fun, more twisted night.
Let's let's do it. Just stay a quick little rundown
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of Antonio Brown over the last twenty four hours here,
all right, so let's go ahead. Let's let's recap what
we got here. So Antonio Brown later in the show
yesterday posted the text message exchange with Bruce Arians. Now
we will be hearing from Bruce Arians here shortly. So
there's that that went out. Then he posted the message
to Alex Guerrero, tom Brady's trainer, looking for his money back.
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Now in one of those messages, I don't know if
he intentionally posted his bank account information, but that all
have made the circles on the web. And then also
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers responded. They decided to outright cut
Antonio Brown. He took shots at Tom Brady and a
fun little uh like poster a flyer that he posted
on social media. He was really making the rounds. There
(02:15):
was reports out from Adam Schefter that said Antonio Brown
wanted to have his incentives guaranteed that the Bucks refused,
and that led to some of the discourse and some
of the issues that he had with the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers and Bruce Arians and their general manager. On the
sideline and then to top it all off, the cherry
on the Sunday so to speak and only fans model
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known for licking a toilet seat to intentionally get COVID,
says that Antonio Brown snuck her into the Bucks team
hotel Saturday night, that two of them had a little
bit of the horizontal mambo, and then she decided to
post the social media afterwards that she has tested po
(03:00):
doesn't it for COVID, informing the Bucks they should go
ahead and test the whole team, and that concludes twenty
four hours in the life of Antonio Brown, the former
NFL wide receiver. Tease me, baby Brady, sometimes we're gonna
be saying, we're gonna be saying former NFL wide receiver
(03:22):
when we describe Antonio Brown moving forward that you know,
there's uh, there's always that saying that you know, talent
supersedes character and teams you know you're gonna be able
to move on from this dysfunction if you're in the
chase for a ring, not in this case, alright, like
(03:43):
like this is not gonna be a case. I almost
want to make a bet on live here, like you
made the one time, even though you didn't pay up
your bet. I know you're talking about in regards to
Tony Romo. I mean I would be shocked, floored, might
drop dead of a heart attack if he signs with
another team, Like this has to be over yesterday. I
(04:05):
feel like I tried to like hear his side, see
his side in this whole thing. I tried to be like, hey,
maybe there's this other side that things. This is like,
this is like kind of my Cleveland Brown's early days.
This is the kind of stuff that went on back then,
when you're going, Holy cow, this all happened the night
(04:26):
before a game. And I do love the wild card
that is this only fans um. I don't I don't
know what to call her model coronavirus challenge girl. I
do love how she gets involved in this whole thing,
if not only for the coronavirus challenge and testing positive
and being concerned about his own well being. Is now
(04:48):
there's a sex tape because they taped all of it,
and and then she's the one leaking out that he's
the one saying like, wait till you see what happens tomorrow.
I don't know if he meant that more, it's like, wait,
do you see me how I play tomorrow? Or if
this was something that was predetermined, maybe I think it's
all out there, Brady. Maybe he meant tomorrow morning before
he leaves. Let me get some sleep, right now, girlfriend,
(05:15):
you got toilet toilet seats and wait till you see
what happens tomorrow. You know we wake up right. You know?
What you can't misinterpret is that this is the behavior
of a superstar. Like if you look at superstars that
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are chronicle and the things that they do and how
they do it. It's funny because and entertainment and in music,
that stuff is praised. The more outrageous you can be,
the more famous, the more popular you become. But that's
in a different industry. That's a different category. And and
(05:59):
and let me let me, let me tie this together
for you because I used music industry. What does Antonio
Brown really thinks he is an artist? I think he's
an artist, right, So he's just released his rap song, this,
that and the other. Right, he believes he's an artist.
So when you look at the behavioral patterns that that
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he's exhibiting, he's exhibiting those of not what a football
player would be in essence, it's what a celebrity that
that's in the entertainment industry would be all this, all
that's going on right now, he's he is strengthening his
followership because that's how social media works these days. That's
(06:45):
I've got an update for you. Oh come on, well,
I was justna say right now, how many Instagram followers?
Or would you say he has, Oh, he's in the
he's in the millions, have a million, six point one million?
There you good for him? Man, so and and here's
the thing. Or if you're if you're if you're able
to monetize what you're doing through the people that you
(07:09):
build out into your your your personal community. Now think
about this. You want to know why Shorty girl was
there the seat liquor an idea? Why she was well,
I mean outside outside of that, outside of that, Roberto, Uh,
(07:30):
she's there because she's going to put their information out
there where she gets the attention for what it is
that she's doing. So she's leveraging him for the celebrity
status as well. The same difference of the moving truck people.
The same difference. I won't say the baby Mama because
that's different, but anybody who has come out against Antonio Brown,
(07:55):
the chef. They are all doing it for exposure because
he an easy target. He makes himself an easy target
for people to get followership, for them to get exposure.
And that's what's going on right now, and he subscribes
to it. That's the crazy thing about it, is that
he subscribes to that, that exposure and that that entertainment
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value of what's going on. The only problem is that
doesn't fit in every facet of football. Football is way
too structured. There's way too many things in place, protocols
that don't allow for you to even like us versus basketball,
we don't have the same luxuries that they have. So
(08:43):
he chose the wrong sport. I don't know what other
sport he would have been able to be good at.
He's had a Hall of Fame caliber career, but more
context to like the celebrity entertainer, rapper whatever you wanna
call so TikTok, which is it's it's a newer platform.
(09:04):
Right for those people who don't know, like I personally
don't really understand TikTok. I think you just make short
videos and people send him back and forth when they
post him, right, And I don't. I don't know if
he has an account and trying to look into it.
But again that's how little I am tech savvy. But
for if you just type in his name, Okay, think
about this, He's got a hundred and eighties six million
(09:27):
views just typing in his name. There's one hashtag in
video in particular that almost has a hundred and seventy
million views. So just so because it's hard to wrap
your head around this, because I think most people they
think about movies, they can think about shows or Netflix
and streaming. We're venturing into a world where there's a
younger generation coming up that's entertained by brands or people
(09:52):
and they just go on a phone, they go on
an iPad and they look at something like TikTok and
they look at these short videos, you know, either over
and over again or a variety of videos on a
certain person or a certain topic. And he is in
that category of a personality or celebrity if you want
(10:12):
to call it that that like warrants a lot of views,
And like you're seeing the blending of sports and entertainers
to a degree, especially on social media platforms. Much like
Jake Paul. You think about He's literally come from an
influencer background into sport and merge the two and then
(10:34):
has been able to parlay it into making money boxing
and who knows if it becomes something else with mm A.
I mean, he even he even made his statement the
other day that he wants to play safety in the NFL.
He thinks he's big enough, strong enough and wants to
you know, crackheads with people and thinks that he could
be good at that, which is a whole another topic.
But that's what this is like. For people who think
that Antonio Brown is just gonna go away, I'm telling
(10:57):
you what I said, Like I would be entertained to
why someone like a Big Brother series, just so I know,
he's a Dancing with the Stars that's a structured, more
kind of proper format. This is different. Like this dude's
still gonna be in the limelight even though he's not
gonna be playing football anymore. Hell, could you imagine any
the startup leagues the XFL, USFL, if they were to
(11:18):
get him on their roster, he could make a few
meal just off of that for a short and season.
I mean, he let's be on the guy's a disaster
and Also, I think you guys are a little bit disrespectful.
And I'm not trying to air you guys out because
you know you're you're my brothers, you know. I I
would last thing I want to do is air anybody
out here on the air. But her name is Aba Louise,
not toilet liquor. So I think it's a little bit insulted.
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I'm sorry. I didn't know. I didn't see it anywhere.
I just saw a few shots that looked like, um,
you know, there's some peaks of valleys, and then I
saw a looking of a toilet. I did my show prep,
and during my show prep, I watched that video and
I studied it very thoroughly to make sure that I
was not misrepresenting toilet liquor and and and that's all
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I could come up with. Yeah, I fell do it worrible.
I started seeing all kinds of other stuff. Yeah, that
was productive. Yeah, that's one of those incognito mode search
search engines you'd use. But I just I also think
you gotta go incognito mode if you want to look
up certain things. Yeah, I also say this, Um, you know,
(12:23):
I feel like you know, Antonio Brown is a liar.
And here's here's why I think Antonio Brown is a liar.
And a lot of people are gonna say, what is it?
The stuff on the sideline was did he tell the
bucks he was injured? And like all of that, All
of that may be true, but I seem to recall
him tweeting out a hashtag no more white women. I mean,
(12:46):
I mean, there's clear evidence here that that is not
the case if you believe women too. Though yes, it's
a New Year's actually technically right, Sorry, I got you
right back in the whole stair. I apologize year. Unbelievable man.
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And you know here, here's the thing though, you look
at his number Sunday, Yeah when he said it, so yeah,
back see he would pull out the text messages on
you and put him out there on Jonas, You're not
credible in the media because of what you just did.
That's that's what you do. At some point, he's gotta
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he's gonna I don't know when it's gonna happen, Probably
not for a long time. But do you think he's
going to look back at the end of his at
the end of everything and just say, why did I
screw that up? Like he's he's literally he's less than
eighty catches away from a thousand from his career. Let
me have this one. We just talked about the influencer
aspect of what what people are doing. He has become
(13:53):
one of the most influential football players in the game.
Even out of the game, he has come one of
the most influential guys. This is what drives people these days.
Said that this is a reality for some guys, but
for guys like him, that is a reality is to
become as big of an influencer as you can possibly become.
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Why so that you can leverage it and monetize yourself.
Guys like like Ocho Sinko who didn't even really know
it that they were branding themselves in a way where
it would be sustainable post career. He's probably more successful
now in his post career than he was in his
career playing. These guys all running the same circles, so
(14:36):
they understand that he's gonna come out with a podcast,
he's gonna come out with an album, he's gonna come
out with a TV show, he's gonna come out with
a Netflix series, he's gonna come out with a Amazon
Prime series. Whatever it may be, because that viewership that
Brady just brought up to you is monetize able by
these companies, and as long as they can monetize through
(14:59):
these companies, a b's relevance is the fact that everybody
will be watching to see what is he going to
do next? And that is the element of surprise that
guys like Antonio Brown are leveraging these days. It's not
even about the game anymore, man brand, Dude, you gotta
get used to it, because that's that's how they're I mean,
(15:21):
I remember early on like hearing people say that to
you and not really fully understanding it because I don't
know that we were in a place in society to
fully utilize that. But now with the way social media
has has changed things, I mean, you really are essentially
when you create an account, you were putting a public
(15:42):
platform out there that just represents you. It's it's almost
like a resume, but it's more than that because it's
not just professional. It's social, right, it could be political,
it could be all these different things, and it's basically
broadcasting out to the entire world a piece or all
in this case of who you kind of are or
(16:05):
at least who you want to portray yourself, and you
can profit off that, to LaVar's point, now more than
ever because of the streaming and all these different platforms
of people who are dying for content, and they're dying
for the ability to look at someone like Antonio Brown
who can look at them and say, I can take
(16:25):
my six point one million Instagram followers and I can
get ten percent of them to watch this. And you
know how powerful that is to say, all right, ten percent,
right of six point one million, six thousand, that's a lot,
Like that's more than that's think about that's more than
some like Big twelve football games, not Oklahoma, but it
(16:48):
likes to be real, like that's more than a live sport.
That's probably double a Kansas game. But and you think
about the rights fees that a network pays for to
be able to podcast a live event, which is king.
Live sports are king in this country, NFL in particular.
But think about the ability to do that. And so
(17:09):
if you can do that as an individual, get to
LaVar's point, you're selling it like you could sell whatever
you want to. I mean, ten percent might be you know,
in some cases, if you've got a loyal following and
they can measure all that that might be a low number.
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Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Looking at his numbers, he's got
all the credentials to be a Hall of Famer. Like,
it's all there. Like he's got better numbers and some
guys that are in the Hall of Fame by far.
He's got a Super Bowl ring, he's got all pros,
he's got all the Pro Bowls. Everything's there, and he's
(17:52):
literally going to toss it to the side to go
be an influencer. I mean, you can't be an influencer
in three years. It's for money. But yeah, I'll say
this for what it's worth. The Hall of Fame in
a lot of ways is is it creates the immortality
of what your career represented. But when you talk to
(18:16):
I always talked to guys about being good dudes, because
the longevity of of your earning capacity is dictated by
the person that you are. While you're playing the game.
Can I just say one, two pros and a cup
of Joe Fox Sports Radio, Bam, all right, thanks, that's nice,
I d tag you know do all right? Uh so,
(18:39):
so he's a professional. So imagine if if six hundred
thousand a million people just heard what what you just said,
Joan's that's monetize herbal and and we can do this
job until literally they cart us up out of here,
maybe on a gurney with a with a sheet over us,
(19:00):
right Like, that's the reality of it. Our earning capacity
goes from what a football players is three and a
half on average of an earning capacity in that profession
before you have to change and settle up on what
that is and come to terms with the fact that
you're not going to play the game anymore and move
on with your life and and and that's something that
(19:21):
you have to take into consideration. I don't like his approach,
but I will say this, pretty boy, Floyd Mayweather was
not in everybody's face. He was not a hot ticket
to purchase his his pay per view buys. But when
he became money Mayweather, everything changed. And that was that
(19:43):
was deliberate by him. That was deliberate he had two
ways that he could go. He could continue being pretty
boy Floyd, and he admitted he's decided to turn into
the villain. Villains Hills are and in this society, and
as Brady so Well puts, this cesspool of of hatred
that goes on in and in the social media raums.
(20:06):
That's all you're looking for. You know what you're looking for.
You're looking for t n A. You're looking for somebody
that that holds your attention outside of the t n
A And you want to sit there and and you
want to be able to be in your wonderous with
with your big big bowl of cereal and and judge
people and feel like this guy is is an amazing talent,
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but he's no better than me. That's what people want.
The common person wants to be able to relate to
somebody who's not common. And that's what a b is.
And that's why you have so many apologists for him,
because there's a whole bunch of people sitting at home, like,
you know what, I would have threw my shoulder pads
and my helmet off as well. My ankle was sore.
I'm not gonna deal with that. I'm gonna go running
(20:51):
off of the field and I'm gonna wave my hand
all of the fans like you. I don't see many
people defending him, after all what came out over the pair.
Are still people justifying that it's his mental health. He well,
that's one thing, and I do think, Look, I'm not
gonna go into that room because I don't know him
like that, and I can't speak, and and no, none
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of these people do people. And they're not doctors, so
you're not clinically diagnotes and his dude for having mental
health issues. I think the interesting thing is he's he's
ticked off so many people though that like would try
to defend him, like all those people who want to
get crazy about Corona or COVID. It's like, well, there
(21:33):
you go, Like they weren't even a part of this party.
And then now with like bringing in someone from the outside,
bringing protocols, the girl who started the coronavirus challenge, like
that's who he's with, and then all of a sudden
she tests positive. Afterwards, Now they're like, I should test
the whole team. It's like, okay, Now, imagine if they
can't play, Imagine if they have a pop of a
(21:56):
whole bunch of COVID cases. Thank god they change the protocol.
But but I'm just saying, like that crew wasn't a
part of the Antonio Brown conversation. They are now, Like
now all those people who want to get all fired
up about that, they could be a part of it.
So I just it's it is interesting. But back to
the Hall of Fame case. I mean, he had a
(22:18):
six year stretch between the seasons of two thousand thirteen
two thousand eighteen, I think he had a legitimate case
of being the best wide receiver in the game. And
he led the league in yards twice, he led in
touchdowns once, he led in receptions twice. He was what
you said, a four time All Prome. I mean, that's
(22:40):
that's hard. It's hard to do. Like usually when you're
voting on a Hall of Fame and you're like, all right,
was he the best player at his position for a
period of time And you could literally statistically look at
his stats during his his prime in Pittsburgh and say yes,
from the age to thirty, he was one of the best,
(23:02):
if not the best. I mean even at thirty he
led the league in touchdown receptions. You know, if you
look at twenty six years old, he's leading the league
of receptions and yards. That's significant. Never he's better than
Calvin Johnson, Like his numbers are better than Calvin Johnson
who just got in. But they do take character into consideration.
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And that's and that's to your point. He's not in
a good situation right now. But that's why that's what
stinks too for him, is because now how he'll live
in eternity forever and I don't know, maybe they'll change
how they view you know, the Hall of Fame or
voting and all that. But instead of living and shrined
forever in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, mccaton now
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he's you know, turning into the villain whatever you want
to call him. This the social media celebrity. It will
end up being more of that than it is about football,
which is kind of a crazy time in our lives
to be able to admit that, and just the idea
that at some point he's not going to look back
and say, damn, I did all of this for like
(24:04):
a two or three year run on social media just
just to be an influencer. Like, to me, guys like
that are a dime a dozen like they really are.
Like you can find somebody who's got a lot of
Twitter followers or YouTube followers or snap face or whatever
you want to call it, but how many guys are
actually in the pro football there's always least. They're all
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barrel action in the NFL on a Saturday, even though
it's a football Friday's Brady pointed out, it is a
double NFL Saturday and it kicks off with the Chiefs
(25:32):
at listen, you know it just Chiefs Broncos. You know,
a little Saturday action here, uh the Brady Quinn Bowl
at two teams Brady Quinn played for so uh, so
we got that here on a Saturday. We know that
Denver is gonna probably be making some changes head coach
and quarterback I'm assuming in the off season. Correct, That's
(25:53):
how this is gonna go with Vic Fangio, who's going
to be the uh, the fall guy there in Denver
for the for the issues there Brady, you think, are
we're moving on? Yeah? I wish that wasn't the case.
I think defensively, you know, he's regarded as one of
the better defensive minds, and you look at how they've
played defensively over his tenure. I mean, they've had their
bad games, but for the most part, they've been pretty solid.
(26:14):
It's been their offense that's struggled. They need to find
a quarterback. That's the bottom line. This is a talented roster.
So that and and an o c um that could
open some things up more I think are warranted. But again,
the powers that be you know that at b and
with everything that's been reported, it sounds like they're gonna
be looking for a new head coach as well. And
(26:34):
so the the situation in the a f C for
Kansas City Tennessee is at the clown show literally at Jacksonville.
So if Tennessee wins, uh, they're going to clinch the
one seed in the a f C playoffs, which means
Derrick Henry great opportunity to buy more time with the
bye week to come back and be ready to go.
They've already's already been practicing with the team. Uh, Kansas
(26:56):
City would then Uh, if they take care of business
and it's Denver, they're going to be locked into the
two seed. I thought it was Indian plan Jack's Uh, yeah,
that's who am I confusing for Tennessee is playing Houston. Okay,
Tennessee said Houston. They think they are ten points were
(27:17):
though it was just the clown show. Becuse I'm crossing
the street. Here's the crazy thing about that game. It's
a huge spread. It was the fifteen and a half,
sixteen and six. Okay, here's the crazy thing about that.
India has not played well there. Do you know Jacksonville's
one against Indie in Jacksonville last year the year before that,
(27:41):
So basically the last time Indianapolis one in Jacksonville was
two thousand and fourteen. It's a weird stat I think
about that. I mean and well, because last season that
was the season open I remember that with Jacksonville upset.
I'm Gardner Minshew outplayed Philip Rivers and then Jacksonville went
(28:04):
on to lose every single game afterwards. The domino effects.
If Jacksonville beats Indie, it opens up that crazy scenario
for the Charges in Vegas where if they edited it's
high they both get in. It opens up the chance
for Baltimore if they beat Pittsburgh to get it or
vice versa, then those two, you know, they ate a
(28:24):
little bit of stuff to happen. But again, it's crazy
how that one game could set off a domino effect
for the rest of the a f C wild card
teams plan it out for a playoff spot and so
when we see Tennessee, who's also a big favorite at
Houston ten point favorite, assuming they're gonna win, take care
of business, and Tennessee is going to be one, Houston
(28:45):
beat the crap out of them picks. I I just
it feels like like we feel confident that Tennessee should
be able to get it done at Houston. So that
so even if Tennessee does get the one seed. I
Houston showed life though they did, but I I still
look at the a f C and I go, this
(29:06):
is Kansas City's conference. Like, even though Cincinnati beat him
last week, I didn't come away from last week's game
thinking to myself, Man, I'd be really concerned if I
was Kansas City. I still think Kansas City is the
best team in the conference, regardless of Tennessee having the
one seed. I don't think the Chiefs are fearful to
have to go into Tennessee to try and get to
a super Bowl. I think Kansas City is is the
(29:26):
most susceptible in this dominant run they've had. That's what
I'll say. I mean watching the Cincinnati game back, I
don't know what the defensive game plan was for Jamaar Chase.
But there are some times where you just running wide open,
I mean wide open, and that's maybe just a bad
matchup for them or their defense. But to LaVar's point,
(29:47):
this is the most susceptible they've been. I would I mean,
I wouldn't put even like the Tennessee Titans are. That
seems that. I think it's really interesting if Derrick Henry,
which he's already practicing, if he could come back and
be like of what he was, which you know, I
like the statu we throw it a few weeks ago,
it was like he was like top five and rushing.
He plays October. We're talking about like the ending of
(30:09):
the season. But if he could come back and be
at the close to full strength, if Julio Jones could
pitch in anything along with a J. Brown, that's a
dangerous team, man Like that Tennis Tennessee has been able
to continue to get better on defense and survive and
be the one seed they got one less game to
play a whole field throughout Like that's that's a kind
(30:29):
of maybe a surprising team or a dangerous team to
keep an eye on. Two Uh, I don't trust any
of them, and that's why I think this is going
to be an amazing playoff scenario that that plays out
in unfolds because I don't trust any of them, not
not a one, Not Kansas City, not not Cincinnati, not Buffalo,
(30:50):
not Tennessee, not not I was really riding and pushing
Indianapolis as as the team to watch, and I still
think they are, but I don't trust them. There's just
not one team I said here and say, you know
what that they got It? Is it dem Or is
that Carson Once? You don't trust because it feels like
they're that's that's an issue. It could be a combination.
(31:13):
It could be a combination because right last week I
was like, man, I was talking so good about them
and then they go and do that. I just, you know,
the bills. They look like they're showing up and turning
into playoff bills. But they may get into the playoffs
and act like a team that that has lost games
they shouldn't have lost. So I mean, and so as
(31:35):
as as Kansas City, Kansas City did the same exact thing.
Buffalo is the second favorite to get to a Super
Bowl out of the a f C. And I don't
get it. I just I don't know what people have
seen with Buffalo and and Brady and I have been
ball washing Josh Allen and the Josh Allen experienced for
a couple of years. Ah well, not too good. I mean,
(31:57):
but like last week, look, man, Atlanta was in game
like Atlanta, Atlanta was in that game at times, and
I'm watching them going, what the hell is that? I Like,
I have no I have no confidence in Buffalo that
that that's a team that's gonna make a run or
a team that's gonna be a threat. I I have
more confidence in Cincinnati than I do Buffalo being a
being an actual threat in the a f C. I
(32:17):
think that the Charges get in there, another team to
keep an on, Like we know Herbert Special. We know
they can rush the passer and cover. I mean they
can't stop the run and they don't really run the
football necessarily well, but I mean that's another team you
could get on kind of a hot streak. Yeah, look,
any of these teams at this point, Like that's what's
gonna be fascinating about this year's playoffs is I think
(32:37):
you're gonna find tighter spreads, better games, and maybe some
surprises and maybe it's not gonna be Kansas City Green Bay, Right, like,
looking at two of the teams that we typically pick
us some of the favorites, maybe will be a different
matchup this year. Yeah, I I just and so we
get to wait to see how all the the seating
and scenarios play out. But Chargers Raiders is the big one,
(32:57):
and uh, you know, I know everybody on this show
is probably you know, because Eddie Garcia and his wife,
you know, take up theirs to the Chargers obviously this
games in Vegas that they won't be there, but you
know that's that's the only person on this shop as
interest on that game. Because there's no other Raider fan
on this show. There's no other So we're we're I
think we're all looking for the Chargers to go ahead
(33:18):
and close this thing out on Sunday night. And then
they come in and how is the sporting out? Behind
the scenes, it's like Roberto and Eddie talking. Yeah, Roberto
looks real serious right now, like he like he wants beef.
He has beef in his eyes, and I mean like
like never mind, but Berto gave up on the Raiders
(33:39):
weeks ago. The terrible I Want Matt that was that
was Berto and now he's back. He said, you won't.
He won't go to the bar anymore to watch him
like you, you completely gave up the course. So there's
(34:00):
just here the crappy has Chargers. All right. Let me
ask you guys this, who's the more interesting team in
the playoffs? Raiders are Chargers because I think it's the
Chargers Charger ball washer, come Erto, listen. I'm just say, Roberto,
would you take Justin Herbert over Derek Carr? Yes, you
(34:21):
said you would take Matt Ryan. Don't you dare do
that on Derek Carr? Don't you do that? Yeah? I would.
But everybody watching the Chargers balls, What are the Chargers
ever done for? Everybody watched their balls every year? I
mean what do they do to the playoffs? Every years?
(34:48):
Every year? At least there was a lot of balls,
and it's too many balls. There's see. I would say
those about I would say this about the Chargers. I mean,
they had they had down faults. What do they win nothing? Yeah,
you're gonna disrespect sand Humphries likes out healthy. The Raiders
(35:10):
haven't won a super Bowl in they put in the
Superbowl before the last time when the super Bowl was
O O three. That's on the Chargers when Eddie. Oh
come on, man, you you were were you even old
enough to watch them beat Joe Theisman in the Super Bowl? Who?
Who answer? Who was the last team to the Raiders?
Are the Chargers? You have the Raiders doing that Super Bowl? Yeah?
(35:32):
But who was the last tea Togo? You were just
saying that the Raiders? Good? Yeah? Who did that? Chargeable?
I forgot? That? Is that when the lineman went to
Tijuana and decided not to come plays? Wow? Well listen,
I mean yeah, if you think, if you think of man,
(35:55):
you know, is that the first like Antonio Brown's style move?
You think was that war after Eugene Robinson? Getting that
was after Eugene was a little bit before that was
with the Dirty Bird which Jamal and nine and something
like that a little bit earlier. This might be more
of a current event question, but like, how different is
like only fans from like the you know word you
(36:18):
just used before? You know? Yeah, Burt, Oh, how different
is it? Oh? Big difference? I don't know. I think
the NFL needs to come up with a platform of
something like only fans. Yeah, well for guys like Antonio,
I mean what they and Eugene is a good dude,
(36:42):
Eugene Robinson, you know, yeah, I think that would be
only for only their fans. And then now they have
the leeway to to be as as unruly as they
like and they don't get in trouble or fine for it.
Just keep it on this platform, behind this thing. You
have to worry about the NFL, you know, he's not.
I'm just saying for the ones in the future. There
(37:02):
will be more, Yeah, there will be more, but I
mean we do have you know, it's good to know
we have some show beef going into Sunday nights. Did
you hear that? Yeah? That's real, man, Just isn't that.
I don't care and I don't boilers. I want my
wife to be happy, but it's not. The stealers like
to be miserable. And there's no reason for there's no
reason for me and Eddie to get into that type
(37:24):
of discussion right now because we're not talking to stealers.
Disrespect the great Karen Garcia like that. How could you
wonderful one? We support her, yeah, a die hard fan,
but we want we want she doesn't you know, she
doesn't quit on her teammate very the week like, you know,
let's say you'd rather have Matt Ryan. I mean, yeah,
she's definitely not. It's unbelievable. All right, all right, there
(37:46):
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