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January 14, 2022 40 mins

Brady Quinn tells Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington the real story behind the Broncos cheating scandal, following allegations from former Denver LB DJ Williams. Does JuJu Smith-Schuster's return give the Steelers a chance vs the Chiefs? New developments point towards Jim Harbaugh staying at Michigan and a Wildcard Weekend Preview with Over/Under's.

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(01:04):
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Making us a party your Friday. We appreciate you doing
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six am Pacific. The best thing of Lamar said last week, though,
is the was it hey Cincinnati that was on Monday.

(01:27):
It was the revelation that you know, Cincinnati couldn't really
be the team Cincinnati, although you did piss off Berno.
Now Berto is collination. Sorry, he's projecting the Raiders win
by three, which go with them so that they wouldn't
cover Go with the money lone. Go with the money
line there, Robert. Yeah, the other games I've been close,

(01:49):
so they went it's going to be a close game obviously.
I mean Deven has been good though. The Raiders one deep,
that's why they won. Well. The good thing about the
Bengals as they don't care about running. Yeah, it's it
does make someone off against them. So I just think
money line could be an opportunity for Berto to make
some coins. Yeah, I think I put a lot on
we I want to. I want to find out though,

(02:10):
because Berto knows how to throw a party better than
anybody on the show. I want to know what a
Raider playoff game. On a Saturday afternoon in Southern California
is gonna look like for Roberto Flores and family. How's
that going to look You're going to get made? Yeah,
two hour tailgate? Yeah, yeah, to watch the game with Roberto.

(02:39):
By the way, if you do bet the Raiders on
the money line plus two hundred, bet a hundred win
two hundred. So if they went out right in that game.
So there's that all right? Um, So listen. I mean
sometimes people do interviews, and sometimes while doing these interviews,
they don't necessarily have all the all the facts straight. Um.

(02:59):
One of those guys a former NFL linebacker d J. Williams,
played in the league quite some time, was a member
of the Denver Broncos. He was on the I Am
Athlete podcast talking about Josh McDaniels as his head coach
in Denver and how things went down, and he made
some remarks that are pretty damning. Um, except there's one

(03:22):
glaring air with some of these comments. Let's first listen
to the comments. Then we've got Brady Quinn who can
clear some things up. We play San Francisco, we end
up losing to San Francisco. We're supposed to be San Francisco.
Here's what happened Our film guy got caught because we
had to share a stadium, got caught filming your practice.
That's the Belle check sant again. That's wait wait wait

(03:46):
wait wait spy gate. Our film guy got caught filming
in practice. One week later, Josh is fired. Josh tried
to say the film guy who was his boy that
he grew up with. I had whatever. I believe. We
started six and old. We ended up after that junior
spy gate happens to junior gate. We lose six out

(04:09):
of eight games, and I brought you not once that
losing streak happened. We was we was, we was having breakon.
We was in in there because like damn man, I
knew he wasn't that good. Were cheating. So there he
is d J Williams talking about his time in Denver

(04:30):
and the cheating from Joshua Daniel's Brady Quinn. I hate
to do this. I love DJ No, no, no, He's
a great teammate, better dude. Uh incredibly savvy off the
field from a business perspective, and even in this instance,
there are things that are happened on that show that

(04:51):
are maybe more for the entertainment that necessarily the reality
or truth of the matter. This is an instant that
is just not factual in anyway. Okay, the Denver Broncos
started out six and oh in two thousand and nine,
which was josh McDaniels first year there. How do I
know this, Well, there was a potential chance that I I

(05:12):
was gonna be traded there before that season when I
was back with the Cleveland Browns. We played them in
Denver that year and year two they were damn good
football team. I'll say that they beat the crap out
of us, and it felt suffocating playing against that defense
that he was a part of. So I can assure
you after they beat us, and and with all the
rumors and things going on before that season, I kept

(05:34):
tabs on that because I was like curious to see
how Joshua do and I was curious to see how
good that team was. Because in the beginning of season
we got we lost to Minnesota, Adrian Peterson ran all
over us and Brett Farves debut as a Viking, and
then we then go on the road and lose to Denver,
and I'm like, we're either awful, which we were that season,
or maybe we just played a couple of really good

(05:55):
football teams, which we did at that point in time,
at least it seemed that way. So the brown goes
going to go six and oh they beat New England
in those funky old school throwback uniforms, and then they
tail off the rest that season two and eight. The
Devil Bronc has never played in San Francisco in two
thousand nine, so when he refers to like, hey, we

(06:16):
knew all this stuff that they were doing, you know,
he had all the answers. Yeah, that may have been
the case, but that was earlier in two thousand nine
when he first got there. The rest of that season,
things started to fall apart. You go to and eight.
I get traded to the team after the two thousand
and nine football season, so I'm there in and we
started off two and five. We have a trip to

(06:38):
San Francis or excuse me, to London, so playing a
game in London, and I can't remember if we were
favorite or not. My guests would be we were because
at the time they were starting Troy Smith, so he
was a backup who was starting obviously overseas in London,
and I would imagine we were favored in that game,

(06:59):
and indeed that part of the story is true. Steve Scarnekia,
he happened to get pop trying to film their walkthrough
or whatever happened. But Josh McDaniels wasn't even fired right
away after that. I mean, I've told this story with Jonas,
like after the game, we got some time before were
flying out, so everyone goes out. John Elway mayor may

(07:20):
not be known in London and he couldn't get into
a club that's neither here nor there. But I'm just
saying like he wasn't even fired until we had four
games left in the season, where Eric Studisville then took over.
So even that incident junior spy Gate or spy Gates,
whatever you want to call it, it didn't it didn't

(07:41):
lead necessarily to his direct firing. It took a few
weeks before it came out and and it became a
decision that the organization wanted to move on from Josh
at that point. But it was a two and five start,
really two and six after the San Francisco game, and
two and eight right so four and four team between
two thousand at that point, and then we subsequently started

(08:03):
to lose, you know more after that that ultimately led
to his firing. It wasn't that specific event, but this
is a microcosm of like our society is that that
went viral. It was fun to talk about and listen
to it. But I sat there and Washington go, that's
not even true, Like and no one's gonna fact check this.
TMZ dot com ran it. All these you know, publicized

(08:27):
websites and stuff run this, and it was fact check.
It was not hard to do. It wasn't Brandon Marshall
on the team inview. He left. He left at two
thousand nine. I believe he might have been on the
team that year and then he left after it. He
was confirmed and what DJ was saying during and like

(08:48):
he was there whatever whatever season it was, Well in
two thousand nine, I believe he was there. It was
where he was not. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I
don't know. I know d J. I don't know him
very well. Um, I don't know the situation because I
just didn't even pay attention to Denver like that. So

(09:10):
I didn't. I mean, I wouldn't think this isn't it's
just about Denver. This is it's more about like how
we go about reporting and talking about stuff. I'm just
I'm just I'm just addressing what he had to say.
I'm in terms of reporting, that's that's that's a whole
another thing. I'm just saying when I listened to DJ
give his account, I'm just this is all I'm saying.

(09:32):
I wouldn't have known that they they lost their last
six games out of eight or whatever, and only one too.
I just I don't know if he mixed up seasons.
I don't, you know, I don't know. I just the
thing I was curious about was him feeling as though
he was that much more prepared and he was that

(09:52):
much more ready to handle his business. I think there
was more of a sound bite where he said, Josh
McDaniels called a man they watched like fifty plays or
whatever the number of plays were of Tom Brady and
how he how he set his feet when he was
throwing the ball, how he set his feet when it
was going to be a run, and and he had

(10:12):
never been so prepared based off of the information that
Josh McDaniels was was giving him. So I would be curious,
as do do you think that that was true in
terms of the validity of getting the information and how
he was getting the information versus the year years were
mixed up or not. No, he knew this. He knew

(10:34):
that Tom Brady thin because he coached him. He was
there with them. You're self scout. You know what. One
of the best things about Bill Belichick is he knows
exactly what his own team's weaknesses and strengths are because
they're constantly self scouting. That's what they do at the
bye week. One of the reasons everyone you know seems
to think all of the bye week guys get rested,

(10:55):
guys get recuperating, all that. I mean, that's part of it,
because you don't have to go through a game that weekend.
But the truth of what's so beneficial, at least for
the coaching staff and really probably for the players in
this scheme moving forward is you self scout. You take
a long, hard look in the mirror of who you are,
and you figure out what you're good at, You figure

(11:16):
out what your weaknesses are, and you do everything you
can to avoid, you know, putting yourself in those positions
where you do something you don't want to have to do,
and you try to do and focus to do more
of the good that's what makes buy is important. And
but that's one of the things that I think Josh
McDaniels and any New England coach does extremely well. I mean,
I remember, you know, and we can talk about all
the assistance who have left, you know, from New England

(11:39):
and their success or lack thereof. But you know, one
of the things you can sometimes see is the improvement
in the second half of the season for a lot
of New England coaches, and a lot of it has
to do with like even Matt Patrician's first year, Eric
Manchini when I was with him his first year, like
we won our last five games were if you looked
at our first eight games where our rankings were, and
compared to our last eight games in two thousand nine

(12:00):
of the Browns completely different football team. And it's because
we kind of finally found out our identity and started
to playing to that. And so sometimes that happens, I think.
But that's what you're speaking to, I mean, the whole
staggered stance versus you know, a parallel feet and shotgun one.
There's some truth to that, you know, for any sort
of um, even if a running back isn't shotgun, right,

(12:23):
if he's even with the quarterback, there's probably less likelihood
that it's gonna be a run. And reason being is
he's in that position to go up and helping pass
protect or release. If he's behind the quarterback in any way,
even if it's a foot, he's probably it's probably a
run play or at least an rp O or something
off that because he wants to get more downhill, and

(12:43):
if he has pass protection needs, he doesn't want to
be an extra foot or a yard behind the quarterback.
He in shotgun. He wants to be you know, he
wants to be closer even with him. So there's all
sorts of tendencies like that. Josh just made him aware
of something that I'm sure he self scouted with Tom
Brady and was making the defense aware of it before
they played them. It's a two pros and a cup
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(13:50):
I was gonna say, come on sticks. I honestly thought
that was you. I thought I really did. When it
came in. It's like, what he's not saying, Hey, Lavartz,
It's no coincidence. The band is three eleven, right right,
come on? This is uh you know you gotta I
gotta pay him off a little bit here. Two and

(14:11):
where is the color of your energy? I stood up.
I was playing the bass guitar. There he her bertso laughing,
So I clearly know that that there was some shenanigans going.
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Shoe Fox Sports Radio.
A little behind the scenes. The reason why Roberto's laughing
it is because he just got some payback on lead

(14:31):
the laugh. That was two weeks in the making. Oh wow,
Like literally we've been making we got a it was
brewing for two weeks. There's no gas crisis in this studio.
I can assure you. It's a problem. It is a
worse than just I mean, uh, yeah, it's gonna be

(14:54):
a fun weekend at Berto's. Drop offs have leather jackets on.
What does that mean? It is all right, so we
are what does that mean? Coming up? Coming up? In

(15:16):
ten minutes from now, we're going to get into Uh,
if you were expecting a major move from one coach
in the world of football, we do have some bad news.
So we got some bad news because it appears that's
gonna go ahead and wrap up here pretty quick. So
we'll get into that ten minutes from now, let's get
into Uh. Look, I think, um, the playoffs are about
guys sacrificing for the team. You know, guys that are

(15:39):
out there. It's not about them. Uh, it's about the team. Uh,
there's no I in team. It's all about we, not me.
And I do think it's important to point out that, Yeah,
that's true, but I do think it's important to point
out that two guys that care nothing about themselves but
definitely about the team UM have a chance, uh potentially

(16:02):
playing this weekend in the NFL. Juju Smith, Schuster and
J J. Watt. I think that's important. Uh. These guys
are all about the team. It's not about them. I
just listen. I you know, Jujus, there's a there's a chance,
a possibility he's they've opened up the window, the twenty
one day window to to try and bring him back
because he's been out and injured for a long time.
Designated to return. Uh, and there's a chance here, Brady

(16:26):
that uh, that old TikTok Juju could be making an
appearance on Sunday Night Football. I think this is important
stuff here really well. I think he could add an
impact um to that offense. I mean you have to
worry about him. Deante Johnson, Chase Claypool, Nag Harris is
a is a threat out of the backfield, and Pat
Fryar youth. It's it's a lot of weapons. I mean,

(16:47):
in all honesty, like, I think that could be a
weak point for Casey. I think it has been all year.
It could be played to the advantage. The question comes
down to can Ben Roethlisberger deliver. I mean that that's
the reality of it is. The Steelers are in the
position now where if he can distribute the football, which

(17:07):
it seemed like he was struggling to do versus Baltimore
week eighteen. But if he can deliver, they can hang
in this game. They can hang, you know, hang around
a little bit. Maybe surprised a lot of people, and
and and maybe this is the most surprising thing. Do
you know He's gonna surpass Joe Montana and Brett Farve

(17:28):
in playoff passing yards in this game? Well, it's it's
crazy to me because I mean, think about until Tom
Brady came along, Montana was viewed as the greatest going
four oh in super Bowls and given just the success
that he had really has a forty night or even
though he had some successes as a chief as well,

(17:49):
But it's crazy to think that. You know, that's a
product of how the game has changed. But also, I
mean how successful the Steelers have been, and they've been
in the playoffs a lot. You know, it's been a
maybe a while they've had the Super Bowl success, but
they've at least been getting into the playoffs and being
a part of the conversation, I'll say this, looking at

(18:10):
looking at this this Pittsburgh team and looking at Ben
Roethlisberger and and what what he has represented. This could
be one of the biggest wins of his career if
they're able to win this game. And and because seemingly
he doesn't have the mobility that that he once had,

(18:32):
he he isn't the quarterback physically that he was when
he was having all that success that led him to
the point of being able to, you know, surpass the
guys on on that list of high accomplishment. But that's
what to me, the playoffs are made of. The magic
that you see take place in the playoffs. Is things

(18:55):
happening with great players that well, you might have not
inten to paid it what was going to happen. So
I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of eager to see
can Ben Roethlisberger knowing that this is this is it? This,
This in theory should be it. And I mean maybe

(19:15):
he goes somewhere else, I don't know, but in theory,
this is it. Can you move your body the way
that you did enough to be able to buy a
little bit of time like the old Ben did. Can
you shake off a would be defender enough like a
old Ben Roethlisberger used to do in order to give

(19:38):
your team more of an opportunity to win? Now, Juju
Schuster getting back in it does create It does create
matchup issues on the outside. If he's in game playing condition,
I mean he's been out forever. I don't know what
his game legs are like and how much I mean,
you know dancing is a little yeah, all right, well

(20:01):
there goes my point. What Frady made the comment, what
do you want from me? I don't want to. I
didn't hear what he said. It was inappropriate him. Yeah,
I'll just say this and then I'm done because the
Jonas ruined it. If if, if, if Juju's foots can
get him around, his feets can get him around on

(20:24):
the field, it can create spacing um for this team.
If they can create spacing and they can get somewhat
of a running attack out of Naj and they can
give a little relief and comfort to that that offensive line,
it could be a more interesting game than what people

(20:45):
may be expecting. I don't I don't see it playing
out that way. I would love for it to play
out that way, of course. Uh, but you know, if
we were to see it, I think it would be
great for football if we saw Ben show that he
could actually move around. Um one more time. Because it's
the playoffs, it's a one game season, So leave it

(21:06):
out there. Even if you pull a hamstring or you know,
strain a muscle of some sort trying to do it,
do it. Don't just sit in the pocket and get
hit and and take things. Um. And and this old
manner that that Ben Roethlisberger, the old man manner, like
get out there and move around like the old one.
Just for a game, just for a game. Look, I

(21:28):
want to see it too. I think this would be
a phenomenal story if the Steelers can pull this off
on the road. Uh, there's no chance. If Pittsburgh wins
this game. If Pittsburgh wins this game, I will lick
a toilet seat in an Antonio Brown jersey because we
have to be able to film you. That's the only

(21:49):
the only way. Okay say it right now on national
radio if we get to film you if the Steelers win.
If the Steelers win this game, I will wear an
Antonio Brown jersey and and lick a toilet seat. And
if you want to hold me accountable for it, you
can do so on Twitter at lead Lap. But if
you have to look at that at work, you gotta

(22:10):
look at the one at work, well, especially on on
a Monday. No, no, no, that that you know, the
cleaning crew may not be Hey, but here's the thing.

(22:36):
I pay off all my bets when I make bets,
you know, proclamations on the air, like the Tony Romo one.
I mean, which way to the way. If Tony Romo
gets ten million dollars a year, I'm getting a sex change. Okay,
that is a that's that is uh, you know false.
That was not me that said that they spliced up
some audio. Brady, can you know, can confirm that they
spliced up some audio. I did not actually say that

(22:57):
on the air. Actually, and you said that, which is
why I want to make sure this time we film
you paying off the bed. So many of the listeners
here at Fox Sports Radio were frustrated by the by
the fact that, um, your name is still Jonas and
not what you intended to change it. Well, um, you
know this what Janice, you know, Janice, was what you

(23:18):
said you were going to move a couple of letters,
and we're working in a whole new uh whole new future.
By the way, you remember when we were talking this
is quickly going to point this out before we go
to Edmund Garcia. I remember when we were talking about, um,
Jeff Bezos and uh you know flying that that that
thing into space. It looks like something else. Um. Remember

(23:38):
we were talking about the phallic rock and I think
we dubbed it the crank Shuttle. This just goes to
show you how how important the audiences to this program
because there is a Twitter account that has been made
called Crank Shuttle fs R. So somebody has made an

(23:59):
a crank shut Twitter account. Uh uh it is just brilliant.
So if you'd like to follow along gust to whatever
that Twitter account has planned or has in store at
crank Shuttle FSR. Where Jonas yea, I did not create that.
Why did you do this? I did not create creating

(24:20):
Twitter account. I'm not stopping. That is not true. That
is not true. All right, it is two pros and
a cup of Joe here store radio. Well, Eric didn't
Brady Quinn Jonas knocks coming up next. If you were
expecting a major move in the world of football. We
got a little bit of bad news for you. We'll

(24:41):
get into all that for you here, but for all
the latest from around the world of sports, ladies and gentlemen,
by Guy Edmund Garcia. First of all, Jonas, I can
guarantee you the cleaning staff is not coming in on
a paid company holiday. And uh, for those of you
that have never had the honor of seeing the restrooms

(25:02):
here at Fox Sports Radio after a weekend, Uh, you know,
just think of like an alley in Tijuana or Oh
it's bad. Yeah, it is the animals that work here
on on the weekends. Yeah, that's not good. That's not
good at all. So I can't wait for that. Jonas
is one of the animals that is in there. No,

(25:22):
that is no, that is not true. I do not
do what Roberto only have done over the last twenty
four hours. I can't even imagine the things that Berto
and Lee do in that place. Man, I think they're
doing it right now. And there's literally smoke billowing out
of the doors of the studio right now between those

(25:44):
two Guys's half out there. Oh yeah, it's been gassed.
And by the way, Lee's blaming it on steak. I
had a lot of steak last night. Come on, man,
I eat steak all the time. You know I'm not
gassing up the stew d l. Come on, that's get
to garbage. You know that'ss black angus last night. I

(26:08):
come on, it's not a kind of racist. I got
a little bit out of hand. Jesus. I thank you.
Can you guys let my guy do the update? Please
come on? To be fair, I did started off so okay,
wor sorry? I just figured I'll get you on track.
That's right. Put the car, put the car back on
the road. Okay, right, Let's let's check in on the
news from the NFL. Now eight head coaching vegans needs

(26:31):
to be filled in the NFL, as Houston Texans fired
David Culley after just one season. Texans were four and
thirteen in his loan season on the job five games.
In the NBA, Grizzlies have now one eleven in a row.
After beating the Timberwolves one sixteen to one oh eight,
it was the Bucks over the Warriors one attend to
Coopo triple double for Milwaukee thirty points, twelve rebounds, eleven assist.

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One night after beating the top team in the East,
the Bulls. The Nets return home and lose to the
Thunder pretty handily, one thirty to one oh nine. No
Kevin Durant given the night off, and Kyrie Rivering, of course,
couldn't play because the games in Brooklyn. The Nuggets beat
the troubley Is one forty to one oh eight, and
the Pelicans down the Clippers one eighty nine. College basketball
number three U s l A lost at home in
overtime the Oregon eight four to eighty one number thirteen

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Wisconsin me number sixteen Ohio State eight. DePaul was a
winner over twenty rank Seaton Hall. Two wins for number
two Gonzaga, number five, USC, number six Arizona and nineteenth
ranked Texas Tech. Coming up tonight, we've got the Bulls
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Coming up twelve minutes from now, We're gonna have another
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(27:57):
had into a busy wild card weekend here on Fox
Sports Radio. Um, So, the news out of college football.
You can just look at this as an isolated story,
or you can look at what the the tentacles are
to the story. Uh, Michigan has made a move. They
have hired Mike Elston Brady Quinn, the defensive line coach
from Notre Dame. I don't know anything about him, but

(28:21):
from what I've seen, he was you know, he turned
down an opportunity to go with Brian kelleyed l s
U because he wanted to stay in the Midwest. So
he is staying in the Midwest. He's going to Michigan,
which probably means blank and please fill in that blank
and disappoint a lot of people out there. Brady Quinn, Um, Yeah,
I'm not really sure what the blank or probably means.

(28:42):
I can tell you this. You know, he he wanted
to stay in that Midwest area. He talked a lot
about staying a Notre Dame. He did do a good
job of developing some of the defensive linemen that have
come across there and and recruiting and getting more talent
upfront on a national basis. But what was probably going
to happened was the running was on the wall that
he wasn't gonna be or remain the defensive coordinator. Uh

(29:06):
maybe the Fiesta Bowl and the way that worked out
versus Oklahoma State and that second half where um that
it continued to keep, you know, coming back and kind
of fell apart. Maybe that was part of it. But
I think he probably felt like there were greener pastures
and a better opportunity at Michigan for him and for
his family. But you know, you can't you can't discredit

(29:27):
the job he did, you know, during his time in
Neitter Dame, especially with that defensive line group. I do
think that means this though hardbu Stang and this whole
entire rumor that he was interested in NFL jobs, YadA, YadA, YadA,
it wasn't about that. It was about him getting back
money that he lost last year when he restructured his

(29:49):
contract before that season, and there's a lot of heat
and pressure on him to beat Ohio State to win
a Big Ten championship. He did it. And so now
like any other former player too, right, you have that
chip on your shoulder. He's looking back at the university
and said, I told you to be patient and give
me time, and how much better I've built this program

(30:11):
and no, and they didn't want to listen. They were frustrated.
They listened to all the outside noise. And so now
he's utilizing that leverage of saying you didn't appreciate me,
maybe take a pay cut, Well, how about you extend me?
And why you pay me back what I should be
making because I'm a damn good football coach. I think
that's more of what this signals bringing in Mice Mike Elston,
because he wouldn't make this move if there was a

(30:33):
stability at the head coaching position at U. M Who. Well,
I look at Michigan and I almost feel as though
it's a year to year proposition in the Big Ten
right now, other than for Ohio State, I really do.

(30:57):
I've looked at how Michigan has played closely. I've looked
at how Penn State has played super super ridiculously meticulously close. Uh.
I've looked at the way Northwestern has played. I've looked
at Iowa, It's saw on and so forth, Wisconsin. I've
looked at every team and even Indiana in the Big Ten.

(31:20):
And the one thing that I'm looking to see I believed.
I believe that hardball would come back. I just and
I sit it on this show. You you don't get
an opportunity to get your dream job every every you know,
every year, every day. Michigan was his dream job. I

(31:41):
mean he left the National Football League to take that job.
When I look at where Michigan is right now, I
thought that they had a tremendous season. I don't know
the correlation of what that means moving into the future.
I don't. I don't look at Hardball and and look
at this Michigan team say they've transitioned from what they

(32:03):
were to to now being a team that's going to
win in the Big Ten consistently based off of this year.
So it'll be interesting to see if he improves the
team well enough or has improved the team and the
you know, the school like like you said, Brady, well
enough where they can actually be consistent, because the only

(32:24):
team I've seen consistently win at at the level of
winning the Big Ten every year has been Ohio State.
I've seen everybody else kind of fall back into the
pack at times, have been ahead of the pack, have
been special at times, but no one has consistently, year

(32:44):
in and year out, been that type of team. So
to be interesting to see if harball Um transitions into
being that type of team. It's Two Pros and a
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(33:06):
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(33:51):
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LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks, what do you guys
know about the Cure? First ever concert I went to
was The Cure? But that it's great about a Cure concert.
You show up there and you go, hey, gothic guy
wearing eyeliner, and like two people turn around. Oh that's cool.

(34:15):
It was always like to say, when Jonas Scoo is
on these tangents, is uh, who cares? Thanks? Thanks, I
appreciate it wasn't this and dumb and dumber When they
were driving they had just got the Aspen feel like,
I feel like this is like in my mind, my
my mental rolling is that when he trades in their

(34:36):
shadow wagon scooter, what do you mean dumb and dumber?
Come on, man, I've never seen dumb and classic. Just
I haven't listened, man, I'm watching I'm watching film all day.
That was a feeble attempt to get back at Brady
for catching you. So I mean, good shot, but not

(34:56):
good and I'm used to it. If I if I
want to talk about something, we don't talk about it.
But let's hear about Notre Dame's backup hunter from four
years ago. Let's let's break down the table. Tell us
how a bunch of talking Oh man, you just want
sive k never mentioned them? Yeah, because you're so that's

(35:18):
where it's position. This not not racist, but yeah, dare
you guys. I'm just saying, man, to get it right
if you're going to say it's uh, two cups up
with Joe here Fox Boards Radio. All right, so coming
up top of next hour, we've got some important questions
we need to ask somebody in the NFL. We were

(35:40):
not happy with some of the comments they made yesterday
regarding one player on the team. So we'll do that
for you here, uh, top of next hour here on
FS are right now though, it's right down this time
to put your money where your mouth is, your life
and it's over under all right, And for that we

(36:01):
turn it over. I'm not even gonna pay attention to
what you said, Roberto. We're gonna turn it over to
lead to lap o L. I feel so bad when
he says it because it sounds like you have like
a legitimate study. It sounds like you, like meet one

(36:25):
of those people has a hard time talking. Am I
the only one that can't do it? You run that
energy up, like to try to speed it up to
get it just goes all the way bad. But my
tongue doesn't work that well. Do we always say so?
We literally we never give lee a chance to actually
get their segments lap. Finally, you guys wrapping up the season.

(36:52):
LaVar finish off in dominance four to one to one. Uh,
to finish off the season. He's got a forty point lead,
Oh my god, forty wins. Brady at thirty. Jonas had
twenty six to finish off the regular season wins. Yeah,
but we start, we started the playoffs. That was all preseason.
Ye make sure let's go let's go over under wild

(37:18):
card weekend. We started with the Raiders at the Bengals.
Derek Carr and Joe Burrow combined passing yards five thirty
and a half. Bro get that on his own. Give
me the over. Over over, I'm gonna take the over.
I like it. I like what you're doing there, ye man,

(37:39):
I mean yeah, hedge my bed on this. Alright, all over,
you guys, A cold game in Buffalo between the Patriots
and the Bills. Temperature at kickoff five degrees. What time
is the game? It's at eight fifteen eastern. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna take the under on that. Yeah, I'm gonna
go on just because I want the under. Actually think

(38:00):
it's gonna be warmer than that. I've talked to some
meteorologist friends up and but but you know, I don't
care about all that inside information. I'm gonna I'm gonna
always saying the actual temperature, what it feels like, actual temperature.
I'm gonna say over. All right, you guys, Eagles at
the Buccaneers, Tom Brady passing touchdowns two and a half

(38:21):
over over, gonna be a blowout. Yeah, I'm gonna take
I'm gonna take the under, all right, you guys. Niners
at the Cowboys, Deebo Samuel total yards rushing and receiving
one and a half over, I'm gonna take the under.

(38:41):
I'll go over. Awhell, I mean, if they're gonna be
able to hang in this game, he's got to have
a gonna say like he's really their main I mean
kid will obviously, but I mean, and by the way,
I don't know if Brady where did he go to
school at Divo Samuel do you happen to know? Oh?
I believe he he went to a school in Columbia,
South Katallaca. It's uh, it's it's the game Cocks. Yeah,

(39:02):
he's a fighting cocks. Who would want to do that bad?
What else? And what could be Big Ben's last game
in the NFL number of interceptions big Ben throws against

(39:25):
the Chiefs at a half over, give me the over.
He's due for two or three out a half. I'm
gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna say that over. I'm sorry, dang,
I'm gonna say the under. I want him to finish
off on a high note. Um, I think I think

(39:45):
they'll keep it close. I'm gonna say the under. This
is why Brady finished last during the regular season in
this segment because Judge, I just he just he didn't
think about this stuff ahead of time. And this is
why LaVar and I ran away with it. Wo Yeah sorry, yeah,
jonas well, I was talking about that one week. Okay, No,

(40:07):
I think it was every week every weally terrible people here,
all right, So that is another addition of over unders.
We actually got all of them in there. How about
I thought we had Arizona left, didn't we done? Now
that's the profit monster Monday. Yeah them on Monday. You
guys are tied in the profit monster. So it's a
big week. You're looking forward to it, can't can't wait.

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