February 4, 2022 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington celebrate Football Friday with Spring Football talk and the Jaguars hiring Doug Pederson. Brian Flores allegations come down to bruised ego and bad legal advice. Plus, Micah Parsons upsets Tyreek Hill in the Fastest Man Skill Competition.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox coming up on this
Football Friday. You may be thinking there's no real football
coming up this weekend. All you got is the Pro Bowl.
It's not gonna stop us from talking about the XFL
and the USFL and possibly the a F to open
up the show. Don't worry, it'll make some sense. We're
also going to talk about Brian Flores accusations, why members
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of certain organizations are coming out strong with their denials,
and did somebody make a mistake involving the Miami Dolphins
and the claims against that organization. We'll talk to Albert
Brier about that. We're also going to congratulate the Jacksonville
Jaguars and only took a month and a half or so,
but they finally found a head coach. Speaking of head coaches,
Jerry Jones apparently has two on his team. We've got
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the b Q News another edition of over Unders, Any
surprise in the Fastest Man Competition. All of it is
yours coming up next year. Two Pros and a cup
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your Friday morning. We appreciate you doing so. We'll take
you all the way up until nine am Eastern time,
six o'clock Pacific here on fs ARE. But listen, it
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was months ago when one man on this show, and
that man is Brady Quinn, dubbed every single Friday a
damn football and you got your sweet ask any games
can kiss? Come on? Yeah? Come on Friday? Is that al? Yeah? Uh?
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And and away we go. Uh. And then, by the way,
if you're wondering, are you guys gonna be doing that
after the next couple of weeks and there's no more football?
Absolutely every single Friday the Christmas. Let's not disrespect the XFL,
the USFL who will be starting to play games. They're
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coming up this spring. We will have football, all right.
We'll have some drafts, off season, free agency, a lot
of moving parts there. If you know what I mean.
Can I just say this about the XFL, the last
XFL that they rolled out, It was starting to work
and then Covid Brady, you were in Tampa right getting
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ready to call a game. No, Lie, LaVar, I'm showing
us know this because I was like I was, I
was literally on the field and I'm getting calls from Fox.
I'm hearing things obviously from the various reporters, and I'm
there talking to the Tampa Bay team watching the practice
which not to get off with a complete tangent. It
was pretty cool seeing that whole thing or orchestrated because
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you know, it wasn't so much about money. It was
about football. It was about you know, the coaches. They
were just trying to teach kids and they were trying to,
you know, get them another shot. It wasn't so much
about hey, how much about getting paid now. It was
like hopefully I can get in the future. But anyway,
I was sitting there, I like in my hotel, going
and I knew this was gonna happen. But I'm still
going through the motions with the coaches and players talking
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to him, and I'm like, Yeah, this is gonna get canceled.
It's all gonna get shut down and I don't know
if it'll ever open back up again. But the players
were hopeful, the players wanted to play. They won that opportunity,
but then COVID hit and that was that was a wrap.
That was the end of that. What like two or
three games in it was a few, it was six
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games that they got in more games than the other league,
the a F. I think the a got one more,
one more game and and then before they before they
shut down, but that was non COVID related. That was,
you know, I don't I don't get. I still don't understand,
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because there's like this niche where players out of high
school who don't really want to go to college but
they want to play professional football. There's kind of that
niche out there, and I don't know why the XFL
or the USFL hasn't tried to tap into that. I mean,
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we see it in basketball with the G League, not
the granted that's associated with the NBA, but eventually you'd
think that the NFL would see this. But I don't
think they want to go in direct competition with universities,
so I know it's a much more complicated conversation. But
I just I wonder if at one point one of
these startup leagues would say, hey, if you don't want
to go to you know, you're the normal college experience,
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which I think COVID taught us. I'm not sure there'll
ever be a normal college experience where you actually go
off to school and are always at ten in classes
in person. If that's the case, then why not have
this opportunity for kids to play football in one of
these leagues and then prepare themselves potentially for the draft. Combine,
and and you're going the NFL. It sounds like the
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JUCO Transfer portal pretty much, right, Well, do you guys
now just ask the question, because you guys played with
a lot of guys who didn't go to the NFL.
You were the you were the top tier first round
draft picks, but a lot of your teammates in college
didn't ever play football. Like a lot of those dudes
was top tier athletes. Bro, Yeah, I know, but but
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they couldn't hold it together. Homesick, great girls. So if
there were if you had teammates, if you had teammates
that never played football again, it's not maybe because they
didn't want to play, maybe there wasn't opportunities, So isn't
there to Brady's point, like a a big crop of
players that maybe don't want to go to Canada to
play the CFL. I mean the easy answers, yes, But
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if if you wanted to play, you would have did
what you needed do to stay on the team. That's
that's let me just get that out of the way.
If I mean, I don't know, man, what about the
guys that were on the team that just weren't quite
good enough to go to the NFL but still wanted
to play, weren't ready to go to the CFL. But
now you've got all these other options. I think this
is football they do local flag football. I mean, that's
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that's what it's been. We have guys who, like they
knew if they were to make it, they were going
to make in the NFL. They just said, I'm gonna
move on to the next step in my life. Some
of them something, I mean, well all of them, because
you have to. You have to whether that next phases
I'm gonna go sit on the couch back at home,
whether it's I'm gonna get my degree and and start
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down the different lane, whatever it is. You see that
that the craziness about this is that happens way more
than the ladder, right, that happens way more than watching
a guy transcend to you know, being an NFL player,
you see's leave all the time, like what happened to
such a saying oh he transferred, Oh he left? You
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hear about it all the time. Then when you're coming out,
you know, there's always that idea that there's hope for
your class, right, but if you think about it, how
many people that graduate with you from college leave what
you from college are going to stay on an active
role roster. There's not many. So that's every year. You're
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seeing that every single year. So now at least now
they've got opportunities. Now it's always seemed to be the idea.
And again my whole thing with this, you know, we
will go into these hires, this new hire, if you
have competition, If there's ever a league that actually catches
on and can can hold on to talent that's as
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good as the talent in the National Football League, if
there's ever coaches that are as talented as coaches in
the NFL that are holding on into these leagues, that's
where the competition comes into play, where you start to
have the idea and the conversations of these conversations that
have been persisting through the last few days the NFL
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has been around. And that's the and that is that
is ultimately what you just said. That is ultimately the
reason why there will always be the conversations that continue
to persist because there is there is no other entity
that could create the comparison or or competitive approach to
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what it is that you have to do well. There
is a an organization that is on par with an
Arena League team, CFL team, oh jeez, you know, an
a F teams a little credit and that that organization
is Jacksonville Jaguars, who, after over a month and a half,
have a head coach. The Jacksonville Jaguars are on the board.
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They've got a head coach in Jacksonville. Doug Peterson said, wait,
that was like almost Doug Peterson to go along with
the visor, will need a snorkel for those swimming pools
at the stadium there and whatever the hell it's called
these days. Because the Jacksonville Jaguars have hired Doug Peterson
as their head coach. After that, Bots job with Byron Leftwich.
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I'm also seeing that Doug Peterson wasn't thrilled with the
idea of working with Trent Balky, but nonetheless super Bowl
winning head coach now takes over in Jacksonville with the
idea of, hey, whatever we do, let's try and not
ruin Trevor Lawrence's career anymore than we may have already
done with whatever the hell that performance was that we
put on last year that we tried to blame on
Urban Meyer. So congratulations that Jacks are on the board.
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Brady your Jacksonville Jaguars, Brady Quinn. Congratulations. Never in my
life I do feel for Trevor Lawrence because this this
whole process was a circus. I mean, let's get to
the news before the actual news, the guy who they
really wanted, Byron Leftwich, pulled his name out, and it
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was because Trent Balky didn't want to get he would
to stand his position of power. He kneecapped Urban Meyer.
And now Doug Peterson sets himself up to have another
contentious relationship with a guy in the front office, kind
of similar to how he did with Howie Roseman. So
here we go again for Doug Peterson. But you know,
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you're hiring a guy that you're hoping could come in
and develop your quarterback and and get this team to
be a potential super Bowl team. He did that in Philly.
That's great. It's it's just it's hard to it's hard
really to look at this and have much optimism. Considering
you had a candidate who was very qualified former player.
There should have been the guy he wanted to bring
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in his own general manager that he trust, he knows
Adrian Wilson, who you know, I trained around, played against.
I mean, he's he was a hell of a player,
and he's done a tremendous job where he's at the
whole thing just I'm beside myself because you know, when
when we talk about bigger issues and the hiring process
in the NFL, here's an example of it. And this
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had nothing to do with an omer. This is someone
at the general manager level who's keeping a minority candidate
from getting hired because he doesn't want to get you know,
he doesn't want to get taken out. And I get
that because he's just trying to survive an inSpot. But
there's an example of that has nothing to do with
the ownership and as it happens to do with a
guy in a position of power who wants to stay
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in a position of power at that level. Now, the
interesting thing is if they bring in Rick Spielman, long
time general manager for the Minnesota Vikings, who's got a
wealth of knowledge, he'd be great for that organization. It's
almost like they're setting up. They're setting up the fire.
Tramp ball can move on from him. But they should
have taken a page basically out of you know, the
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playbook when you're looking at it's a little different than
the Giants, but obviously they try to keep a head
coach and plays higher general manager. They realized, oh, we
can't hire the guy we want because there's some candidates
who don't want to walk into this situation. And if
this is a similar light where you had a candidate
and Byron left with who you wanted but he didn't
want to walk into that situation with Trent Bulky. So
I just I feel for Trevor. I feel for these
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young players. This organization is an absolute circus. That's the
only way describing it. I think you gotta hold ownership
copable for this. I think you gotta hold them copable
because they could have said, look, we're gonna we're gonna
clean house and and we're gonna start with bulky and
we're going to build up from the bottom up. I mean,
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first first thing that you gotta do is you gotta
acknowledge that you have a problem before you can fix
the problem. And and if you allow the problem to
persist because of something that well you're you're not yet
ready to address, then you're you're copable for that. You know,
It's it's funny. Want of the running one of the
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running jokes that that that I saw was, Uh, people
were saying, they're probably another bad mistake, made a bad
decision made by Jacksonville before they finished their article. I'm
figuring in my mind they're probably another bad decision made
by Jacksonville before I finished my thought. Right, the idea
of this is is I don't think Doug Peterson is
a bad decision for your coach. I mean outside of
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Byron left which if we didn't know about Byron Leftwich
having the opportunity to have the job, people will probably
be sitting there saying that it makes sense. I mean,
this is a guy that came into a dysfunctional uh situation,
and in year two was able to take Nick Foles
and and and Carson Wentz to to get a Super
Bowl for a team that hadn't won a Super Bowl.
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So his pedigree is coaching pedigree makes sense. Him being
able to overcome what he was overcoming with the front
office and ownership in Philadelphia says that he may have
the chops to be able to come in and do
what it is that he was able to do in Philadelphia.
But then you fast forward to the end of his
time in Philadelphia, and if you remember how ugly that guy, uh,
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it kind of makes you feel like you no, you're
of course Doug Peterson has trepidation about going to Jacksonville
and stepping into that scenario. And if you feel as
though the guy that that people are saying, it's been
reported we do not want to work with him. I
do not want to work with him. If that continues
to be the conversation and you still allow him to
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be the one that dictates what's going to happen. As
you mentioned maybe in New York, if Gettleman is the
guy that's still dictating what's going to happen, there's a
strong possibility you are going to have the same outcomes
take place because it's the same influence coming from the
same person that's making these decisions. So it'll be interesting
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to see. Even if it is considered to be a
good hire, what are you gonna do if the same
situations continue to persist based on Bulky's presence and influence
still being on the organization. Blame urban Meyer. Come on,
that's what you do. I mean, I mean, he hasn't
been there a while, but that's the way this goes. Man,
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that's just trying to tell But I mean, one on
one one a slap fest for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It
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Oh yeah, Roberto's jacked up, man. Yeah, that's called the
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BA right there. That's the base needs, is Roberno. You're
seeing what who system in corn today? System of a
down and corn on the same bit. Enjoy brother, Thank you. Gee.
I wonder if anybody's gonna be smoking weed? Probably not
my god? No, yeah, that no chance. Right. You do know,
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you guys saw what I was doing last Friday. It's
going to be a repeat performance. It might be worse
of I forget what were you doing? We were blending up.
Jonas is Strawberry, that's right, that's right, She's yeah a
little What you said, Dachary, what was you know? I
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want to say it was Margarita, but you know, I
don't know. Because it went down. It went It went
bad so quickly that it didn't even matter what it
was label we were just drinking them a little tequila
with a splash of strawberry. We were getting it in bro. Yeah. Uh,
we were getting Friday's are a show in the Arrington household. Uh. Well,
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you know we are going to have another edition of
in case you missed it coming up later on this hour. Um,
and uh, you know there's a bit of a surprise.
Uh and in case you missed it, because somebody on
this show is going to be feeling really good about
a proclamation they made months ago on this show, so
they will get the opportunity to gloat here coming up
in about twenty minutes from now. Um, I'm just gonna
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say this, it feels as though maybe this whole thing
with Brian Flores isn't exactly going the way that Brian
Flores had intended it to go, meaning that we've now
got rebuttals from not only the Giants, but also John
Elway and the Broncos. We talked about Steven Ross's rebuttal
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to the accusations. Now, Brian Flores said that on an
NPR podcast that Bill Belichick influenced the Giants decision and
the hiring of Brian Dave all Um, but it was
the New York Giants who came out strongly not only
did they deny the assumption that that Brian Flores was
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sort of a sham interview and itinerary of the entire
day in which they got together, which is something similar
to what Denver did the day before. And then John
Elway came out, and he came out strong in denying
and had timelines of the entire meeting that they had
back in twenty nineteen. And I just get this funny
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suspicion that, outside of the hundred thousand dollar bribery that
we've talked about, that this may not go exactly the
way a lot of people thought initially when Brian Flores
came out with the accusations. I told you, I told
you guys, last night, I was talking to a buddy
who's an attorney and now he's he's more in the
baseball world as far as representing some athletes. But his
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exact words upon walking up and greeting one another word,
Hey man, if you follow this Brian Flores stuff, He's like,
if you can get ahold of until I'll give him
some better legal advice that he's getting right now. And
I don't again it goes back to what's become public
and looking at it, you're going, yeah, there was some
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bribery there, and are there issues with the NFL and
their hiring practices from minority coaches. No one's gonna deny that.
But the examples that you're trying to highlight and push forward,
it's like, dude, this, this, this isn't demonstrating that, so
there better be more behind that. Otherwise this is career suicide.
And that's why you're seeing teams come out vehemently, vehemently,
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really defending themselves, and you don't even mentioned Jimmy Hass them.
Jimmy Hasslm's comment about huge, I mean, he would he
say he's never been accountable for one thing. Yeah, he's
Jimmy has them basically said that I've taken responsibility for
our time here with Hugh Jackson, He's never done any
of that. It's like, yeah, this is not going well
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for anybody. I mean, I just I feel like, again,
if you want to make those accusations, there's there's got
to be further evidence or proof. And the whole hundred
thousand dollars for losing a game, that's that's bribery. It's
it's a completely different you know, it's a completely different
rule or law that you're talking about that was an issue,
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and so it doesn't really go with the messaging that
you initially sent out. And that's the hard part of seeing,
like as LaVar said all week, like what's the end game?
Where does this go? What's not gonna go anywhere? If
that's how you're putting this out. You know, I think
if if you had phrased it maybe a little different,
or had your messaging be a little different and talked
about some of the issues and some of the things
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that's happening behind the scenes, and then and making this
as part of it, then I think it sheds a
different light on it. But this this seems to be
like it's not going anywhere fast. They're gonna have a
hard time proving at least based on what we know now. Um,
first off, I'm tired of the conversation. I'm I'm tired
of dealing with the backlash I get for shoot from
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the hip. I'm tired of it this and this is
such a simple situation, the topic of hiring minority coaches
and minority gms and and minority minorities being hired for
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for situations is not a simple topic. It is clearly
an issue, is clearly a problem, But every single time
a minority has an issue does not necessarily make it
based upon the premise of what it is that that
situation is. And I think that if I'm being honest
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and and and all respect due to to what Brian
Flores has accomplished. If I'm being honest, this is a
man who had his ego bruised and and hurt by
how he felt things were handled and was looking to
employ more people to come to his support and his
backing to validate what he was feeling. That's more personal
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than it is calling an entire group of people and
their their ethnic racial orientation, calling that to your your defense.
I'm not going to be the one. I'll be the
first one. I'll be the first one if I feel
as though that's what it is, I'm going all in
on it. I'll be the first one to do it.
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But that ain't it right here. And if you're gonna
get upset because you're a minority, I'm a minority. I
know what it is to be black. I know what
it is to to deal with the pressures of what
it is to be a black man in America. I
get that I will always stand up and defend that.
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I will always be a part of defending that. But
I also shoot from from a level of if that
ain't it, that ain't it, That's just who I am.
Nobody's ever going to compromise that with me. I'm never
I'm never going to be I'm never going to be
cause over right. Ever, I'm always be right for right.
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Right for right means that if it's right, I'm in.
If it's if it's cause over right and it's not right,
but it's cause I'm not sorry, I'm not gonna do it.
This situation here is very cut and dry. He feels
as though he should have been treated differently. He wasn't
treated differently. Now you're trying to wrap all of these
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different issues to try to justify why you were treated
the way that you were treated, trying to get other people.
Let me ask you this, how many people have joined
the class action lawsuit? Let me joint. I don't believe anybody. Well,
I mean so, I mean he was still trying to
I think that I'm not sure if they wanted YEA,
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and you tried to join. If he tried to join
the class action lawsuit based off of the reasoning that
he gave, that's out the door already anyway. Yeah, he
You know, if you could just step away from the
Mike place, you should. You should have said that asked
me to throw these games. They asked me to throw
these games and pay me for it, and then they
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fired me without cause like that. That goes to what
Flora had. This point is not they kept rehiring me,
and then you might have not have known this, but
they awarded me an extension after forgetting my ass kicked,
Like listen, use my guy. I know you personally, so
you know. But but but again, right is right, and
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and I'm always gonna look at it from that that perspective.
I'm sitting there thinking, is it going to be the
legal teams that come after Floras and and make this
a blood bath? Or is it going to be I'm
gonna tell you like this, I'm gonna put you all
up on a little bit of game. If an owner
or a GM or an official comes out with a
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statement when it is a legal situation that's involved, they're
not wrong. I just put you up on a little
bit of game. Listen to while I just hit you with,
if an owner of ownership, if management, GM, president whatever
comes out and makes a statement as as as boldly
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and as as candid as these guys are coming out
and doing, they're not afraid of the legal ramifications that
are going to take place. If this was something real,
their representation, the the organization would have came out with
a statement, we're doing we're doing further investigations, We're doing X,
Y and Z. The lawyers would have came out, they
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would have had a statement prepared as to what it
is and where they're going with this. You would not
have heard them coming out and going ham on the scenario,
and that right there tells you all you need to know.
They are going like, I don't know how long this
is gonna last. I don't know how long. So now
it goes back to the original point, what is the
ultimate end? What is the ultimate gold here? I wouldn't
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go that far. I think what what's really unique about
this entire scenario is a coach who you know, had
had a winning record the past two seasons, even though
it's about the same as Adam Gays, didn't make the playoffs,
just throwing that out there, um, and it's still up.
It's still a finalist. Reportedly is still a finalist for
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an open head coaching vacancy decided to file this class
action lawsuit. I mean, I think it caught everyone off guard. This.
If you would have told me that you were gonna
have a coach who started off the season one and seven,
one what eight of his last nine games, whatever it was,
if you were gonna tell me that he was gonna
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then turn around and be firing a class action lawsuit
after the season while still up. I mean, one getting
fired that was the surprising part, but then two being
still up for head coaching jobs and following a class
action lawsuit, I would have been like, Yeah, that's the winner.
That's that's the that's the one that no one saw coming.
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And so I think it caught everyone off garden by surprise.
And even how he's continued to conduct himself where he
went right to the medium press, he went on a
media tour. So I don't necessarily know that there's not
more behind the scenes. I just don't know if we're
ever gonna get there, because I don't know that we'll
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get to a point where that evidence will display itself,
if if it's even there, right, I mean, he he
went on the offensive so fast the NFL had to respond.
They had to put out some of these harsh statements.
They had to provide evidence of Hey, you know, you
could say whatever you want, but you know, here, here's
the itineraries. This is how it went. We're having people
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put out statements. And I also think it was you know, look,
especially for John Elway, regardless of what people think about him,
if you're gonna take a shot at the guy and
said he was drunk coming, I mean, that's it's it's careless.
And and he's put himself now as a public position
where he keeps talking, he keeps talking, everyone inter being
interviewed that all this is gonna be used against him now.
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And and so I kind of go back to even
if there was a case for Brian Flores, the two
clown attorneys who are a part of are with him. God, man,
they've give him some bad, bad advice. And this is
I wonder what what prompted him to do this? Because man,
when you when you think you're when you feel as
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though something is supposed to be what it is, and
it is it. It doesn't turn out to be that.
You be surprise what action people take. Okay, so because
Bill Belichick confused Brian's in his phone, which that But
but that's that's the evidence they presented, you know. But
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I'm just I look at it and I go So
that prompted you to do all this and then to
go back in time and remember John Elway and the
Broncos staff being drunk even though you in a in
a press conference with the media, talked about how great
the interview was and then you complained about about all
the other situations in Miami and a hundred thousand dollars.
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Did he just keep all that in his back pocket
and go, Man, if I ever get offended or somebody
makes fun of me or I or I get I
get fired, that's where Corta gets thrown out because you've
already publicly made a statement. Are you to come back
from that? It's just weird. Here, here's what's interesting, Like
I'm I'm sitting here and paying attention to everything that's
going on with this modern day stuff, right, And when
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you think about going after something or somebody, an institution,
you gotta whistle blow, You gotta whistle blow like you
have to otherwise, like you can't say, oh I have
I have a person that that can can confirm that
that not. You better have, Like you said, Brady, you
better have some hard evidence as to what was taking place. Video,
(30:23):
you know, emails, as as John Gruten about that, uh
as as Dan Snyder about that. You better have hard evidence.
So if you're gonna, if you're gonna start out with you're, you're,
you're firing, you're you're firing your guns off. You're firing
your round off, and your round is to put Bill
Belichick out there on Front Street. In terms of this
(30:45):
is why this is going where it's gonna go, you
have better come with more than that, and and it
better be way more damning like it better be. Here's
the surveillance, right, I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about some
of the things that are have taken place and why
certain people don't have jobs anymore. Where is the surveillance?
(31:07):
Where Where are the written reports of the accounts given
by those people that you are saying our witnesses or
parties to what took place? Have all of those things
ready to go? Maybe he made John Oway take a
breathalyzer test while he was there, and he still got
the heaven. The problem is when John comes back and
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says to him, well, if you look to Shovel, it's
probably because we're interviewing and flying from Denver. And not
only does that kind of make Flora's accusation look awful,
it actually holds up to They were one of the
only crews who this year when they end up hiring
Nathaniel Hackett, they flew around privately everywhere. I mean a
lot of teams got a customer doing the zoom interviews.
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And that's another thing that was interesting about the timeline
of Flora's with the New York Giants was I believe
at that point when they were going through something conducting
some of these interviews, it was just zoom, like that's
what you're based on. So so there's that, but um,
you know, Denver was one of the only teams that
did that this year, where they flew around privately everywhere,
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they went to meet with the candidates in person, face
to face, and and so it's it's not even something
that's foreign or uncommon, it's something that was a normal
practice for them. And so yeah, it would make sense
that they might be a little bit tired if they
got you know, they stayed up late for an interview,
they're flying in earlier through the night, trying to sleep
on the plane, whatever it was, to make sure they
(32:31):
could find the right coach. I just it makes him
look even worse me and Brian Flores for making an
accusation where there's like, all right, what proof do you
have to back it up? Nothing? Nothing right now, and
it's really just an accusation and snitching. Yeah, you better
be the best snitch ever. If you all try to
employ the entire racial group that you are associated with
(32:53):
to back you up, you better snitch. If you're a
don't matter if you're if you're a liquor store our
owner in Denver, expect a call from the team Flora's
uh lawyers to that will hit you up to see
better or not. John Wayne there bought a bottle of
Jack Daniels before the internet mean, I mean, does snitching
matter if you're going against the men? I mean honestly
(33:15):
that maybe that's not snitching. You better be telling someone
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Can Brady do it? Brady? Can you roll your d's
into a lap? No, that's not a bad that's not
at all, Especially he was rolling d's in your mouth. Syn,
that's not a badcast would be rolling around here. Here
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we go, you guys, we have a new fastest man
in the NFL. The Pro Bowl Skills competition yesterday took
place between Tyreek Hill, Trefon Diggs, Nick Chubb, and Michael Parsons.
Who do you guys think won this race? Kill? Come on,
it's got Mica Parsons is fast as hell. It's gotta
be Tyree. He also looked about twice the size of
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Tyreek Hill, and that is correct. He beat out Nick
Chubb tryfon Diggs and Tyreek Hill came in last. He
was wearing what looked like a parachute and it was
a little slow start. But Michael, let's tried. Mica Parsons
is fast. Now here's the moves. Not faster than Tyreek Kill,
but but but here, but here's the move far go
(36:10):
and watch the video. I could care less. I could
care less. Mica Parsons might have beat him if he
really tried. Here's here's the best part. If you're Micah
Parsons's Tyreek Kill forty, you never race him again? Right,
Tyreek did it? Was it a four to something? Oh?
Well he's faster. Yeah, the fastest guy the league wasn't
(36:33):
four to nine at the combine. Jesus, Mica Parsons ran
a four three six. Yeah, yeah, that's faster than you
and me. Yeah, but listen, get that One's that he's
faster than Tyreek Hill. He was faster than him yesterday.
I don't think I could run. I don't think I
could watch the video. I could care less. I don't
(36:55):
think Mica Parsons baby runing the forty on Saturday Sticks
City is a play. I don't think I could run
you're gonna be in that race. A skip about the race.
J Feeley in the Yeah, I think they're going to race. Yeah. Look,
(37:17):
I if you're Micah Parsons, you never race him again, right,
want the real smoke, because I would't want to see
how much faster he is. If I'm as fast as Mica,
I want to see how much how much faster he is.
I've never been ran away from when I played, Like,
there's dudes that are super fast that I have tracked
down flagged on the football field. I would just want
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to see it because that's just how we're built. Stick city, man,
That's how we're built. I want to see it big time.
I want to feel it big time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
I want to see that. I want all that smoke. General, Mica, General, baby,
you guys. In college basketball, Arizona defeating l A seventy
six sixty six last night, but after the game, Arizona
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campus police arrested U. C. L. A. S. Mac Eaton
for spitting on fans as he exited come on him,
arrested him and cited him for the intent to injure, provoke,
or insult, but he was released back to the team.
I'm gonna confused because he's a U c. L A player.
I thought they'd be wearing masks. I don't understand. That's
kind of funny. I'm just saying that the court. Yeah,
(38:21):
like in an N ninety five, you know to leave
in the court, you know, because that's what I mean,
like a pulled the mask down. I mean our our
politicians wear him or was he holding his breath? I'm
just trying to he said he was holding his bath.
I just want to make sure Brady had that in
the news yesterday. She was holding his breath. Us all
no germs will enters. I don't know if you heard that.
(38:41):
If you just walk around holding your breath, you can't
according to the l A Man. Please, we do not
condone or or endorse you going around holding your breath.
And by the way, the only time we don't Yeah,
I just want to make sure everybody knew on the
show we didn't say holding. The only time it's appropriate
to hold your breath is when you in the studio
with Roberto or leave. They've had a night out. He
(39:03):
was in the hallway looking real suspects. It's like, oh yeah,
then I looked around the corner and saw his face.
I saw like that little curl in his lip and
his toe was off the ground. I was like, oh,
he's he's burn He saw a cockroach die and on
the floor, and you know what's going on here? Roberto
(39:24):
Room filling it up? What else we got, guys, Lots
of rumors in speculation what happens with Aaron Rodgers this offseason,
including this one where Aaron Rodgers has purchased land in
Nashville suburb, leading Mini to think that you might be
heading to the Titans. It was that's that's a great
landing spot for him, and obviously, um, the problem with
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that is the contractual stuff which Tannehill has got, like
was it thirty million guaranteed this year to the Tap
And then you got to figure out how Rogers would
fit into all that. I don't know, there might be
some gymnastics happening there to make that work. But I
can see that's a hell of a team. He was
rocking out in his discount double check commercial. You know
(40:09):
he's jamming and and plus uh, you know, I mean
Green Bay probably rather send him there than somewhere in
the NFC. So I wonder if cheese kurts are our barbecue.
There barbecue cheese. Let me find out where it comes from.
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and did somebody make a mistake involving the Miami Dolphins
and the claims against that organization. We'll talk to Albert
Brier about that. We're also going to congratulate the Jacksonville
Jaguars and only took a month and a half or so,
but they finally found a head coach. Speaking of head coaches,
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was months ago when one man on this show, and
that man is Brady Quinn, dubbed every single Friday a
damn football and you got your sweet ask any games
can kiss? Come on? Yeah? Come on Friday? Is that al? Yeah? Uh?
(01:56):
And and away we go. Uh. And then, by the way,
if you're wondering, are you guys gonna be doing that
after the next couple of weeks and there's no more football?
Absolutely every single Friday the Christmas. Let's not disrespect the XFL,
the USFL who will be starting to play games. They're
(02:17):
coming up this spring. We will have football, all right.
We'll have some drafts, off season, free agency, a lot
of moving parts there. If you know what I mean.
Can I just say this about the XFL, the last
XFL that they rolled out, It was starting to work
and then Covid Brady, you were in Tampa right getting
(02:38):
ready to call a game. No, Lie, LaVar, I'm showing
us know this because I was like I was, I
was literally on the field and I'm getting calls from Fox.
I'm hearing things obviously from the various reporters, and I'm
there talking to the Tampa Bay team watching the practice
which not to get off with a complete tangent. It
was pretty cool seeing that whole thing or orchestrated because
(03:02):
you know, it wasn't so much about money. It was
about football. It was about you know, the coaches. They
were just trying to teach kids and they were trying to,
you know, get them another shot. It wasn't so much
about hey, how much about getting paid now. It was
like hopefully I can get in the future. But anyway,
I was sitting there, I like in my hotel, going
and I knew this was gonna happen. But I'm still
going through the motions with the coaches and players talking
(03:24):
to him, and I'm like, Yeah, this is gonna get canceled.
It's all gonna get shut down and I don't know
if it'll ever open back up again. But the players
were hopeful, the players wanted to play. They won that opportunity,
but then COVID hit and that was that was a wrap.
That was the end of that. What like two or
three games in it was a few, it was six
(03:46):
games that they got in more games than the other league,
the a F. I think the a got one more,
one more game and and then before they before they
shut down, but that was non COVID related. That was,
you know, I don't I don't get. I still don't understand,
(04:09):
because there's like this niche where players out of high
school who don't really want to go to college but
they want to play professional football. There's kind of that
niche out there, and I don't know why the XFL
or the USFL hasn't tried to tap into that. I mean,
(04:30):
we see it in basketball with the G League, not
the granted that's associated with the NBA, but eventually you'd
think that the NFL would see this. But I don't
think they want to go in direct competition with universities,
so I know it's a much more complicated conversation. But
I just I wonder if at one point one of
these startup leagues would say, hey, if you don't want
to go to you know, you're the normal college experience,
(04:52):
which I think COVID taught us. I'm not sure there'll
ever be a normal college experience where you actually go
off to school and are always at ten in classes
in person. If that's the case, then why not have
this opportunity for kids to play football in one of
these leagues and then prepare themselves potentially for the draft. Combine,
and and you're going the NFL. It sounds like the
(05:14):
JUCO Transfer portal pretty much, right, Well, do you guys
now just ask the question, because you guys played with
a lot of guys who didn't go to the NFL.
You were the you were the top tier first round
draft picks, but a lot of your teammates in college
didn't ever play football. Like a lot of those dudes
was top tier athletes. Bro, Yeah, I know, but but
(05:34):
they couldn't hold it together. Homesick, great girls. So if
there were if you had teammates, if you had teammates
that never played football again, it's not maybe because they
didn't want to play, maybe there wasn't opportunities, So isn't
there to Brady's point, like a a big crop of
players that maybe don't want to go to Canada to
play the CFL. I mean the easy answers, yes, But
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if if you wanted to play, you would have did
what you needed do to stay on the team. That's
that's let me just get that out of the way.
If I mean, I don't know, man, what about the
guys that were on the team that just weren't quite
good enough to go to the NFL but still wanted
to play, weren't ready to go to the CFL. But
now you've got all these other options. I think this
is football they do local flag football. I mean, that's
(06:20):
that's what it's been. We have guys who, like they
knew if they were to make it, they were going
to make in the NFL. They just said, I'm gonna
move on to the next step in my life. Some
of them something, I mean, well all of them, because
you have to. You have to whether that next phases
I'm gonna go sit on the couch back at home,
whether it's I'm gonna get my degree and and start
(06:42):
down the different lane, whatever it is. You see that
that the craziness about this is that happens way more
than the ladder, right, that happens way more than watching
a guy transcend to you know, being an NFL player,
you see's leave all the time, like what happened to
such a saying oh he transferred, Oh he left? You
(07:05):
hear about it all the time. Then when you're coming out,
you know, there's always that idea that there's hope for
your class, right, but if you think about it, how
many people that graduate with you from college leave what
you from college are going to stay on an active
role roster. There's not many. So that's every year. You're
(07:26):
seeing that every single year. So now at least now
they've got opportunities. Now it's always seemed to be the idea.
And again my whole thing with this, you know, we
will go into these hires, this new hire, if you
have competition, If there's ever a league that actually catches
on and can can hold on to talent that's as
(07:50):
good as the talent in the National Football League, if
there's ever coaches that are as talented as coaches in
the NFL that are holding on into these leagues, that's
where the competition comes into play, where you start to
have the idea and the conversations of these conversations that
have been persisting through the last few days the NFL
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has been around. And that's the and that is that
is ultimately what you just said. That is ultimately the
reason why there will always be the conversations that continue
to persist because there is there is no other entity
that could create the comparison or or competitive approach to
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what it is that you have to do well. There
is a an organization that is on par with an
Arena League team, CFL team, oh jeez, you know, an
a F teams a little credit and that that organization
is Jacksonville Jaguars, who, after over a month and a half,
have a head coach. The Jacksonville Jaguars are on the board.
(08:56):
They've got a head coach in Jacksonville. Doug Peterson said, wait,
that was like almost Doug Peterson to go along with
the visor, will need a snorkel for those swimming pools
at the stadium there and whatever the hell it's called
these days. Because the Jacksonville Jaguars have hired Doug Peterson
as their head coach. After that, Bots job with Byron Leftwich.
(09:19):
I'm also seeing that Doug Peterson wasn't thrilled with the
idea of working with Trent Balky, but nonetheless super Bowl
winning head coach now takes over in Jacksonville with the
idea of, hey, whatever we do, let's try and not
ruin Trevor Lawrence's career anymore than we may have already
done with whatever the hell that performance was that we
put on last year that we tried to blame on
Urban Meyer. So congratulations that Jacks are on the board.
(09:42):
Brady your Jacksonville Jaguars, Brady Quinn. Congratulations. Never in my
life I do feel for Trevor Lawrence because this this
whole process was a circus. I mean, let's get to
the news before the actual news, the guy who they
really wanted, Byron Leftwich, pulled his name out, and it
(10:04):
was because Trent Balky didn't want to get he would
to stand his position of power. He kneecapped Urban Meyer.
And now Doug Peterson sets himself up to have another
contentious relationship with a guy in the front office, kind
of similar to how he did with Howie Roseman. So
here we go again for Doug Peterson. But you know,
(10:25):
you're hiring a guy that you're hoping could come in
and develop your quarterback and and get this team to
be a potential super Bowl team. He did that in Philly.
That's great. It's it's just it's hard to it's hard
really to look at this and have much optimism. Considering
you had a candidate who was very qualified former player.
There should have been the guy he wanted to bring
(10:47):
in his own general manager that he trust, he knows
Adrian Wilson, who you know, I trained around, played against.
I mean, he's he was a hell of a player,
and he's done a tremendous job where he's at the
whole thing just I'm beside myself because you know, when
when we talk about bigger issues and the hiring process
in the NFL, here's an example of it. And this
(11:07):
had nothing to do with an omer. This is someone
at the general manager level who's keeping a minority candidate
from getting hired because he doesn't want to get you know,
he doesn't want to get taken out. And I get
that because he's just trying to survive an inSpot. But
there's an example of that has nothing to do with
the ownership and as it happens to do with a
guy in a position of power who wants to stay
(11:28):
in a position of power at that level. Now, the
interesting thing is if they bring in Rick Spielman, long
time general manager for the Minnesota Vikings, who's got a
wealth of knowledge, he'd be great for that organization. It's
almost like they're setting up. They're setting up the fire.
Tramp ball can move on from him. But they should
have taken a page basically out of you know, the
(11:51):
playbook when you're looking at it's a little different than
the Giants, but obviously they try to keep a head
coach and plays higher general manager. They realized, oh, we
can't hire the guy we want because there's some candidates
who don't want to walk into this situation. And if
this is a similar light where you had a candidate
and Byron left with who you wanted but he didn't
want to walk into that situation with Trent Bulky. So
I just I feel for Trevor. I feel for these
(12:13):
young players. This organization is an absolute circus. That's the
only way describing it. I think you gotta hold ownership
copable for this. I think you gotta hold them copable
because they could have said, look, we're gonna we're gonna
clean house and and we're gonna start with bulky and
we're going to build up from the bottom up. I mean,
(12:35):
first first thing that you gotta do is you gotta
acknowledge that you have a problem before you can fix
the problem. And and if you allow the problem to
persist because of something that well you're you're not yet
ready to address, then you're you're copable for that. You know,
It's it's funny. Want of the running one of the
(12:55):
running jokes that that that I saw was, Uh, people
were saying, they're probably another bad mistake, made a bad
decision made by Jacksonville before they finished their article. I'm
figuring in my mind they're probably another bad decision made
by Jacksonville before I finished my thought. Right, the idea
of this is is I don't think Doug Peterson is
a bad decision for your coach. I mean outside of
(13:17):
Byron left which if we didn't know about Byron Leftwich
having the opportunity to have the job, people will probably
be sitting there saying that it makes sense. I mean,
this is a guy that came into a dysfunctional uh situation,
and in year two was able to take Nick Foles
and and and Carson Wentz to to get a Super
Bowl for a team that hadn't won a Super Bowl.
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So his pedigree is coaching pedigree makes sense. Him being
able to overcome what he was overcoming with the front
office and ownership in Philadelphia says that he may have
the chops to be able to come in and do
what it is that he was able to do in Philadelphia.
But then you fast forward to the end of his
time in Philadelphia, and if you remember how ugly that guy, uh,
(14:01):
it kind of makes you feel like you no, you're
of course Doug Peterson has trepidation about going to Jacksonville
and stepping into that scenario. And if you feel as
though the guy that that people are saying, it's been
reported we do not want to work with him. I
do not want to work with him. If that continues
to be the conversation and you still allow him to
(14:24):
be the one that dictates what's going to happen. As
you mentioned maybe in New York, if Gettleman is the
guy that's still dictating what's going to happen, there's a
strong possibility you are going to have the same outcomes
take place because it's the same influence coming from the
same person that's making these decisions. So it'll be interesting
(14:45):
to see. Even if it is considered to be a
good hire, what are you gonna do if the same
situations continue to persist based on Bulky's presence and influence
still being on the organization. Blame urban Meyer. Come on,
that's what you do. I mean, I mean, he hasn't
been there a while, but that's the way this goes. Man,
(15:09):
that's just trying to tell But I mean, one on
one one a slap fest for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It
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Oh yeah, Roberto's jacked up, man. Yeah, that's called the
(16:12):
BA right there. That's the base needs, is Roberno. You're
seeing what who system in corn today? System of a
down and corn on the same bit. Enjoy brother, Thank you. Gee.
I wonder if anybody's gonna be smoking weed? Probably not
my god? No, yeah, that no chance. Right. You do know,
(16:35):
you guys saw what I was doing last Friday. It's
going to be a repeat performance. It might be worse
of I forget what were you doing? We were blending up.
Jonas is Strawberry, that's right, that's right, She's yeah a
little What you said, Dachary, what was you know? I
(16:55):
want to say it was Margarita, but you know, I
don't know. Because it went down. It went It went
bad so quickly that it didn't even matter what it
was label we were just drinking them a little tequila
with a splash of strawberry. We were getting it in bro. Yeah. Uh,
we were getting Friday's are a show in the Arrington household. Uh. Well,
(17:21):
you know we are going to have another edition of
in case you missed it coming up later on this hour. Um,
and uh, you know there's a bit of a surprise.
Uh and in case you missed it, because somebody on
this show is going to be feeling really good about
a proclamation they made months ago on this show, so
they will get the opportunity to gloat here coming up
in about twenty minutes from now. Um, I'm just gonna
(17:44):
say this, it feels as though maybe this whole thing
with Brian Flores isn't exactly going the way that Brian
Flores had intended it to go, meaning that we've now
got rebuttals from not only the Giants, but also John
Elway and the Broncos. We talked about Steven Ross's rebuttal
(18:04):
to the accusations. Now, Brian Flores said that on an
NPR podcast that Bill Belichick influenced the Giants decision and
the hiring of Brian Dave all Um, but it was
the New York Giants who came out strongly not only
did they deny the assumption that that Brian Flores was
(18:25):
sort of a sham interview and itinerary of the entire
day in which they got together, which is something similar
to what Denver did the day before. And then John
Elway came out, and he came out strong in denying
and had timelines of the entire meeting that they had
back in twenty nineteen. And I just get this funny
(18:47):
suspicion that, outside of the hundred thousand dollar bribery that
we've talked about, that this may not go exactly the
way a lot of people thought initially when Brian Flores
came out with the accusations. I told you, I told
you guys, last night, I was talking to a buddy
who's an attorney and now he's he's more in the
baseball world as far as representing some athletes. But his
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exact words upon walking up and greeting one another word,
Hey man, if you follow this Brian Flores stuff, He's like,
if you can get ahold of until I'll give him
some better legal advice that he's getting right now. And
I don't again it goes back to what's become public
and looking at it, you're going, yeah, there was some
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bribery there, and are there issues with the NFL and
their hiring practices from minority coaches. No one's gonna deny that.
But the examples that you're trying to highlight and push forward,
it's like, dude, this, this, this isn't demonstrating that, so
there better be more behind that. Otherwise this is career suicide.
And that's why you're seeing teams come out vehemently, vehemently,
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really defending themselves, and you don't even mentioned Jimmy Hass them.
Jimmy Hasslm's comment about huge, I mean, he would he
say he's never been accountable for one thing. Yeah, he's
Jimmy has them basically said that I've taken responsibility for
our time here with Hugh Jackson, He's never done any
of that. It's like, yeah, this is not going well
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for anybody. I mean, I just I feel like, again,
if you want to make those accusations, there's there's got
to be further evidence or proof. And the whole hundred
thousand dollars for losing a game, that's that's bribery. It's
it's a completely different you know, it's a completely different
rule or law that you're talking about that was an issue,
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and so it doesn't really go with the messaging that
you initially sent out. And that's the hard part of seeing,
like as LaVar said all week, like what's the end game?
Where does this go? What's not gonna go anywhere? If
that's how you're putting this out. You know, I think
if if you had phrased it maybe a little different,
or had your messaging be a little different and talked
about some of the issues and some of the things
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that's happening behind the scenes, and then and making this
as part of it, then I think it sheds a
different light on it. But this this seems to be
like it's not going anywhere fast. They're gonna have a
hard time proving at least based on what we know now. Um,
first off, I'm tired of the conversation. I'm I'm tired
of dealing with the backlash I get for shoot from
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the hip. I'm tired of it this and this is
such a simple situation, the topic of hiring minority coaches
and minority gms and and minority minorities being hired for
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for situations is not a simple topic. It is clearly
an issue, is clearly a problem, But every single time
a minority has an issue does not necessarily make it
based upon the premise of what it is that that
situation is. And I think that if I'm being honest
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and and and all respect due to to what Brian
Flores has accomplished. If I'm being honest, this is a
man who had his ego bruised and and hurt by
how he felt things were handled and was looking to
employ more people to come to his support and his
backing to validate what he was feeling. That's more personal
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than it is calling an entire group of people and
their their ethnic racial orientation, calling that to your your defense.
I'm not going to be the one. I'll be the
first one. I'll be the first one if I feel
as though that's what it is, I'm going all in
on it. I'll be the first one to do it.
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But that ain't it right here. And if you're gonna
get upset because you're a minority, I'm a minority. I
know what it is to be black. I know what
it is to to deal with the pressures of what
it is to be a black man in America. I
get that I will always stand up and defend that.
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I will always be a part of defending that. But
I also shoot from from a level of if that
ain't it, that ain't it, That's just who I am.
Nobody's ever going to compromise that with me. I'm never
I'm never going to be I'm never going to be
cause over right. Ever, I'm always be right for right.
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Right for right means that if it's right, I'm in.
If it's if it's cause over right and it's not right,
but it's cause I'm not sorry, I'm not gonna do it.
This situation here is very cut and dry. He feels
as though he should have been treated differently. He wasn't
treated differently. Now you're trying to wrap all of these
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different issues to try to justify why you were treated
the way that you were treated, trying to get other people.
Let me ask you this, how many people have joined
the class action lawsuit? Let me joint. I don't believe anybody. Well,
I mean so, I mean he was still trying to
I think that I'm not sure if they wanted YEA,
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and you tried to join. If he tried to join
the class action lawsuit based off of the reasoning that
he gave, that's out the door already anyway. Yeah, he
You know, if you could just step away from the
Mike place, you should. You should have said that asked
me to throw these games. They asked me to throw
these games and pay me for it, and then they
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fired me without cause like that. That goes to what
Flora had. This point is not they kept rehiring me,
and then you might have not have known this, but
they awarded me an extension after forgetting my ass kicked,
Like listen, use my guy. I know you personally, so
you know. But but but again, right is right, and
(24:57):
and I'm always gonna look at it from that that perspective.
I'm sitting there thinking, is it going to be the
legal teams that come after Floras and and make this
a blood bath? Or is it going to be I'm
gonna tell you like this, I'm gonna put you all
up on a little bit of game. If an owner
or a GM or an official comes out with a
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statement when it is a legal situation that's involved, they're
not wrong. I just put you up on a little
bit of game. Listen to while I just hit you with,
if an owner of ownership, if management, GM, president whatever
comes out and makes a statement as as as boldly
(25:43):
and as as candid as these guys are coming out
and doing, they're not afraid of the legal ramifications that
are going to take place. If this was something real,
their representation, the the organization would have came out with
a statement, we're doing we're doing further investigations, We're doing X,
Y and Z. The lawyers would have came out, they
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would have had a statement prepared as to what it
is and where they're going with this. You would not
have heard them coming out and going ham on the scenario,
and that right there tells you all you need to know.
They are going like, I don't know how long this
is gonna last. I don't know how long. So now
it goes back to the original point, what is the
ultimate end? What is the ultimate gold here? I wouldn't
(26:29):
go that far. I think what what's really unique about
this entire scenario is a coach who you know, had
had a winning record the past two seasons, even though
it's about the same as Adam Gays, didn't make the playoffs,
just throwing that out there, um, and it's still up.
It's still a finalist. Reportedly is still a finalist for
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an open head coaching vacancy decided to file this class
action lawsuit. I mean, I think it caught everyone off guard. This.
If you would have told me that you were gonna
have a coach who started off the season one and seven,
one what eight of his last nine games, whatever it was,
if you were gonna tell me that he was gonna
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then turn around and be firing a class action lawsuit
after the season while still up. I mean, one getting
fired that was the surprising part, but then two being
still up for head coaching jobs and following a class
action lawsuit, I would have been like, Yeah, that's the winner.
That's that's the that's the one that no one saw coming.
(27:31):
And so I think it caught everyone off garden by surprise.
And even how he's continued to conduct himself where he
went right to the medium press, he went on a
media tour. So I don't necessarily know that there's not
more behind the scenes. I just don't know if we're
ever gonna get there, because I don't know that we'll
(27:53):
get to a point where that evidence will display itself,
if if it's even there, right, I mean, he he
went on the offensive so fast the NFL had to respond.
They had to put out some of these harsh statements.
They had to provide evidence of Hey, you know, you
could say whatever you want, but you know, here, here's
the itineraries. This is how it went. We're having people
(28:13):
put out statements. And I also think it was you know, look,
especially for John Elway, regardless of what people think about him,
if you're gonna take a shot at the guy and
said he was drunk coming, I mean, that's it's it's careless.
And and he's put himself now as a public position
where he keeps talking, he keeps talking, everyone inter being
interviewed that all this is gonna be used against him now.
(28:34):
And and so I kind of go back to even
if there was a case for Brian Flores, the two
clown attorneys who are a part of are with him. God, man,
they've give him some bad, bad advice. And this is
I wonder what what prompted him to do this? Because man,
when you when you think you're when you feel as
(28:54):
though something is supposed to be what it is, and
it is it. It doesn't turn out to be that.
You be surprise what action people take. Okay, so because
Bill Belichick confused Brian's in his phone, which that But
but that's that's the evidence they presented, you know. But
(29:16):
I'm just I look at it and I go So
that prompted you to do all this and then to
go back in time and remember John Elway and the
Broncos staff being drunk even though you in a in
a press conference with the media, talked about how great
the interview was and then you complained about about all
the other situations in Miami and a hundred thousand dollars.
(29:38):
Did he just keep all that in his back pocket
and go, Man, if I ever get offended or somebody
makes fun of me or I or I get I
get fired, that's where Corta gets thrown out because you've
already publicly made a statement. Are you to come back
from that? It's just weird. Here, here's what's interesting, Like
I'm I'm sitting here and paying attention to everything that's
going on with this modern day stuff, right, And when
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you think about going after something or somebody, an institution,
you gotta whistle blow, You gotta whistle blow like you
have to otherwise, like you can't say, oh I have
I have a person that that can can confirm that
that not. You better have, Like you said, Brady, you
better have some hard evidence as to what was taking place. Video,
(30:23):
you know, emails, as as John Gruten about that, uh
as as Dan Snyder about that. You better have hard evidence.
So if you're gonna, if you're gonna start out with you're, you're,
you're firing, you're you're firing your guns off. You're firing
your round off, and your round is to put Bill
Belichick out there on Front Street. In terms of this
(30:45):
is why this is going where it's gonna go, you
have better come with more than that, and and it
better be way more damning like it better be. Here's
the surveillance, right, I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about some
of the things that are have taken place and why
certain people don't have jobs anymore. Where is the surveillance?
(31:07):
Where Where are the written reports of the accounts given
by those people that you are saying our witnesses or
parties to what took place? Have all of those things
ready to go? Maybe he made John Oway take a
breathalyzer test while he was there, and he still got
the heaven. The problem is when John comes back and
(31:27):
says to him, well, if you look to Shovel, it's
probably because we're interviewing and flying from Denver. And not
only does that kind of make Flora's accusation look awful,
it actually holds up to They were one of the
only crews who this year when they end up hiring
Nathaniel Hackett, they flew around privately everywhere. I mean a
lot of teams got a customer doing the zoom interviews.
(31:48):
And that's another thing that was interesting about the timeline
of Flora's with the New York Giants was I believe
at that point when they were going through something conducting
some of these interviews, it was just zoom, like that's
what you're based on. So so there's that, but um,
you know, Denver was one of the only teams that
did that this year, where they flew around privately everywhere,
(32:10):
they went to meet with the candidates in person, face
to face, and and so it's it's not even something
that's foreign or uncommon, it's something that was a normal
practice for them. And so yeah, it would make sense
that they might be a little bit tired if they
got you know, they stayed up late for an interview,
they're flying in earlier through the night, trying to sleep
on the plane, whatever it was, to make sure they
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could find the right coach. I just it makes him
look even worse me and Brian Flores for making an
accusation where there's like, all right, what proof do you
have to back it up? Nothing? Nothing right now, and
it's really just an accusation and snitching. Yeah, you better
be the best snitch ever. If you all try to
employ the entire racial group that you are associated with
(32:53):
to back you up, you better snitch. If you're a
don't matter if you're if you're a liquor store our
owner in Denver, expect a call from the team Flora's
uh lawyers to that will hit you up to see
better or not. John Wayne there bought a bottle of
Jack Daniels before the internet mean, I mean, does snitching
matter if you're going against the men? I mean honestly
(33:15):
that maybe that's not snitching. You better be telling someone
said the shovel, Two pros and a cup of Joe
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(34:43):
here on fs are right now, though, it's time for
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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we turn it over to our executive producer Lee last Lap.
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Can Brady do it? Brady? Can you roll your d's
into a lap? No, that's not a bad that's not
at all, Especially he was rolling d's in your mouth. Syn,
that's not a badcast would be rolling around here. Here
(35:26):
we go, you guys, we have a new fastest man
in the NFL. The Pro Bowl Skills competition yesterday took
place between Tyreek Hill, Trefon Diggs, Nick Chubb, and Michael Parsons.
Who do you guys think won this race? Kill? Come on,
it's got Mica Parsons is fast as hell. It's gotta
be Tyree. He also looked about twice the size of
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Tyreek Hill, and that is correct. He beat out Nick
Chubb tryfon Diggs and Tyreek Hill came in last. He
was wearing what looked like a parachute and it was
a little slow start. But Michael, let's tried. Mica Parsons
is fast. Now here's the moves. Not faster than Tyreek Kill,
but but but here, but here's the move far go
(36:10):
and watch the video. I could care less. I could
care less. Mica Parsons might have beat him if he
really tried. Here's here's the best part. If you're Micah
Parsons's Tyreek Kill forty, you never race him again? Right,
Tyreek did it? Was it a four to something? Oh?
Well he's faster. Yeah, the fastest guy the league wasn't
(36:33):
four to nine at the combine. Jesus, Mica Parsons ran
a four three six. Yeah, yeah, that's faster than you
and me. Yeah, but listen, get that One's that he's
faster than Tyreek Hill. He was faster than him yesterday.
I don't think I could run. I don't think I
could watch the video. I could care less. I don't
(36:55):
think Mica Parsons baby runing the forty on Saturday Sticks
City is a play. I don't think I could run
you're gonna be in that race. A skip about the race.
J Feeley in the Yeah, I think they're going to race. Yeah. Look,
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I if you're Micah Parsons, you never race him again, right,
want the real smoke, because I would't want to see
how much faster he is. If I'm as fast as Mica,
I want to see how much how much faster he is.
I've never been ran away from when I played, Like,
there's dudes that are super fast that I have tracked
down flagged on the football field. I would just want
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to see it because that's just how we're built. Stick city, man,
That's how we're built. I want to see it big time.
I want to feel it big time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
I want to see that. I want all that smoke. General, Mica, General, baby,
you guys. In college basketball, Arizona defeating l A seventy
six sixty six last night, but after the game, Arizona
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campus police arrested U. C. L. A. S. Mac Eaton
for spitting on fans as he exited come on him,
arrested him and cited him for the intent to injure, provoke,
or insult, but he was released back to the team.
I'm gonna confused because he's a U c. L A player.
I thought they'd be wearing masks. I don't understand. That's
kind of funny. I'm just saying that the court. Yeah,
(38:21):
like in an N ninety five, you know to leave
in the court, you know, because that's what I mean,
like a pulled the mask down. I mean our our
politicians wear him or was he holding his breath? I'm
just trying to he said he was holding his bath.
I just want to make sure Brady had that in
the news yesterday. She was holding his breath. Us all
no germs will enters. I don't know if you heard that.
(38:41):
If you just walk around holding your breath, you can't
according to the l A Man. Please, we do not
condone or or endorse you going around holding your breath.
And by the way, the only time we don't Yeah,
I just want to make sure everybody knew on the
show we didn't say holding. The only time it's appropriate
to hold your breath is when you in the studio
with Roberto or leave. They've had a night out. He
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was in the hallway looking real suspects. It's like, oh yeah,
then I looked around the corner and saw his face.
I saw like that little curl in his lip and
his toe was off the ground. I was like, oh,
he's he's burn He saw a cockroach die and on
the floor, and you know what's going on here? Roberto
(39:24):
Room filling it up? What else we got, guys, Lots
of rumors in speculation what happens with Aaron Rodgers this offseason,
including this one where Aaron Rodgers has purchased land in
Nashville suburb, leading Mini to think that you might be
heading to the Titans. It was that's that's a great
landing spot for him, and obviously, um, the problem with
(39:47):
that is the contractual stuff which Tannehill has got, like
was it thirty million guaranteed this year to the Tap
And then you got to figure out how Rogers would
fit into all that. I don't know, there might be
some gymnastics happening there to make that work. But I
can see that's a hell of a team. He was
rocking out in his discount double check commercial. You know
(40:09):
he's jamming and and plus uh, you know, I mean
Green Bay probably rather send him there than somewhere in
the NFC. So I wonder if cheese kurts are our barbecue.
There barbecue cheese. Let me find out where it comes from.
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