March 1, 2022 • 34 mins
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington can't find anything wrong with the statement from Kyler Murray's agent, laying out a future plan for him and the Cardinals. FOX MLB Insider Jon Morosi has the latest updates as the Lockout Deadline arrives. Plus, Ja Morant goes off and the NFL Hall of Fame game announcement on ICYMI.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two rows in a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Sports Radio. I believe that we are nine
or ten shows in a row that we've had to
dump something. I mean, we have been on a roll.
What do we have to dump? Yesterday Verna, Roberto dumped himself.
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I don't know that he necessarily needed to, but Roberta
dumped Hi one more time. I didn't understand what he said.
He dumped himself. Okay, that's not what I meant. Yeah,
that's kind of funny. I'm glad Berto was there with
you because I'm like, wait, wait, that's because that's where
where Brady was. If you told me yesterday like, oh,
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I had dumped myself because you got the red button,
I would have been like, like, so what you do?
Where were you a want to happen? You know, I've
been thinking about like your your pants or something side
of the road. I am clearly learning that that is
a part of your humor, your humor train, like instead
of like the red button, dump like dumping as in
something else, like like squatty potty dumping. Lavarna a little
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bit more professional than that. I try to keep it
a little bit above board, you know what I mean.
Brady Brady likes to take it low, you know what
I mean, But I like it, like it creates balance.
Don't know why we can't just have a you know,
an adult sports stock radio show here. I don't know
why we want to go to the tour technically. I mean,
what Brady uses as humor is adult humor, you know.
And it's so airy. It's just such an airy deal.
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And then I find myself comparing it, like when I'm
at by myself, I'm like, which one do I fall under?
Here's the thing, though, depending on what was what happened
the night before, you can't be certain that that's a
drop or in real time, depending on what Lee and
Roberto have gotten into the night, that is true. I
just look at the door. The door is cracked right now,
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so there's clearly some real stuff there. Sometimes you can
even see the fumes, like the way that the windows
are tinted. You can sometimes see the fumes. It's not good. Yeah,
it's not good at um, but here is here's what
is good. Um Bold Bold strategies in the in the
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world of sports different approaches to certain things. UM and
Kyler Murray's agent, UM took a completely different approach yesterday
when it came to and this happened right after we
went off the air, when it came to letting it
be known that maybe they would like a contract extension
or maybe they would like to work something out long
term with the Arizona Cardinals. Has been kind of a
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weird past couple of weeks for Kyler and the Cardinals
and UM basically a three parter. Part one of his
statement on social media. Uh, he talked about Eric Burkhardt,
Kyla Murray's agent, talked about where the Cardinals were and
where they are now with him. Uh, he He's not wrong.
They were a bad organization and a bad franchise. They've
improved every year with Kyler Murray. Then in part two,
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he came up with a plan and a strategy to
get Kyler paid and to also make it makes sense
for the team and some other players on their roster.
And then part three basically put all the pressure on
the Cardinals to figure this thing out and then also
reiterate what they have in Kyler Murray. And so here
we are, Uh, they have laid it on the table
and just said this is what we're thinking. This is
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so everybody knows what's going on, and now we wait
to see what the cardinal's response. Is. Pretty unique strategy
here can I ask this question? Though? I found it
to be incredibly reasonable. And Eric Burkhard, who's Kyler Calamari's
Who's who's Kyla Murray's agent. He's he's been known for
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a while. He's a really good guy. And anyone who's
met would would would tell you that this looks to
me to be I don't want to say, like a
desperation play, but it feels that way because you'd think
behind the scenes you're maybe having some productive talk, so
there's been some momentum, and I don't think you let
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this stuff go public unless you can't even get a callback.
I mean it feels to me like maybe Steve Come.
I don't know if Michael Bidwall is involved in the process.
I would assume an owner is when you're talking about
an extension that's gonna be north of a hundred and
fifty million too, maybe two and a million. I saw
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in one figure the market value for a six year
deal for Calamari is two fifty eight million, which comes
out to roughly forty two million a year. So if
that's the sort of money you're talking about investing into
a player, of course the owner is gonna have to
be involved. Right, There's gonna be a significant portion in
a signing bonus, which they talked about in this And
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as much as that's like, well, of course he wants
a huge signing bonus, what agent, what player does it? Right?
The agents taken fees off of that. The player wants
the money in this pocket now. But the truth of
the matter is they want to be able to spread
a chunk of this contract over the course of you know,
excuse me, I spread a chunk of his uh signing
bonus over a course of his contract. So it creates
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more cap space. So Chandler Jones, who's a free agent
this year, you can sign him back. Zach Erchie is
a free agent, you can sign him back. A j
Green free agent, maybe sign him back. You know, there's
all those decisions you've got to make. James Conner free agent,
maybe you sign him back. Christian Kirk, like, they got
a lot of roster decisions to make, And I actually
think and maybe I'm just you know, trying to defend
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the player here. It's really reasonable, like what he's done
in his career, what they've done during his time since
he's gotten there, they're all reasonable requests. And this is
how the organization, in my opinion, should be looking at this.
They should be saying, let's extend him now so we
can rework all these other contracts and make sure we
bring some of these guys back and build on what
we've built so far. Like, am I seeing this wrong?
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I think they would be wise to try to create
stability in the midst of everything that that has been
taking place In terms of speculation for Arizona. I would
agree with that sentiment, and I don't think it's unreasonable
by my estimation. And another thing to think about is
when you're talking about the whole desperation deal, well, maybe
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that now justifies or clears up why Kyler Murray scrubbed
his his accounts, you know, and and didn't have the
picture showing or you know, kind of the the outward
support of of being an Arizona Cardinal. Maybe there was
something that, you know, maybe that lack of response, maybe
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the response that they did get that was maybe not
the response that they wanted. Um, maybe it turned Cayler
Murray off, and and maybe that might have been why
the results were the results with him in terms of
his personal social media handles. But I think if you're Arizona,
you're closer to being better than you're you are to
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being worse. And and I think we all would attribute
that to Kyler Murray being the quarterback of this team.
We've seen when he's healthy and he's motivated and he's
he's playing well, this team goes as he goes, and
and so to me, even though they've tail spend at
the end of the season, I mean, I'm much rather
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be on a team that takes nose dives than a
team that doesn't have the opportunity to get high enough
to dive in the first place. So, I mean, sometimes
it's just all about relativity in terms of how you're
you're looking at it from a vantage point of where
you're at. Where was the lie and anything that he
said in the statement, like I can't find one. Everything
he said was spot on, And so when I saw initially,
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when I saw they had come out, I just thought, well,
that's kind of strange, Like why why would he take
this approach? And then I read through it. I thought,
I can't find anything that he lied about there. There's nothing.
Everything there is factual. They were terrible when Kyler Murray
got there. They've improved every year, were in the playoffs
last season. Uh, he's still improving as a player, that
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is a fact. He listed all his credentials this early
in his career. And then it came up with a
strategy that seemingly looks like it would make sense. Obviously,
you know, who knows whether or not, you know, step
by step they follow along with that, I would doubt it,
but they at least put together a plan in place,
a solution. This is what we're thinking. This is where
we're at. We don't want to, you know, play this
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out and have rumors and reports. You know, Kyler did
the whole scrub as social media thing, probably a regrettable moment.
But the Cardinals also came back. The Cardinals came back
with something this report that came out where they you know,
threw him under the bus, and I was, oh, sources
are saying he's a terrible teammate, he's this, he's this
and this, and the Cardinals just said, Okay, here's what
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we actually are. We're a better organization now with Kyler
Murray at quarterback than what you were before. That's a fact.
Here's a plan that we have in place, and this
is where we stand with everything. I I just I
can't find the lion anything he said. So when I
saw people piling on and criticizing, and I thought, okay,
it's a different approach, But nothing he said was incorrect
in the entire statement that I found. You know what,
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the only problem is about like him and how much
leverage he has, because not just from what you're pointing
out with the fact that he won Offensive Rookie of
the Year, as you know, his first year, he goes
to two Pro Bowls after that, so you're looking at
going like he's done his part statistically, he's gotten better,
the team has gotten better every step of the way,
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like everything is building where you wanted to go. But
the other leverage point he has is baseball. But the
problem is, unfortunately we've we've got baseball and I don't
even know where that agreement's at at this point. But
imagine if they weren't in a lockout. Imagine if you
know both sides have come to an agreement now he's leveraging.
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I believe it's the Oakland Athletics who have his rights,
and he could even be saying, well, you guys don't
want me to, I'll just I'll go play baseball, Like
I'll literally go out there play some baseball. We'll see
how things go, and then we'll see if you want
to sign me to a bigger deal. Maybe I should
go back to doing that and go that route. So
it is fascinating that I think he's doing all we
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can at this moment. But if there was a deal
in place in baseball we weren't in a lockout, maybe
they'd be utilizing that angle as well. We haven't heard
that yet. I think one more point that should be
pointed out is rookie contracts. That's still somewhat relatively new
and and basically what a rookie contract is is set
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for two things. One because veterans don't want to feel
like they're getting outdone by someone who hasn't done anything
in the league yet. And two, it now becomes a
safer investment having these guys slotted in terms of where
they're at and coming into the draft. Owner when we
came into the draft, we were getting paid. If you
are a top top pick, number one pick, number two pick,
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you're getting paid right out of the gate. And and
whether for when, for laws, for good or for bad.
You got a blockbuster deal and didn't even play one
down in the league. So so now when you look
at rookie contracts, if somebody's going into their third fourth
year of their first deal and they're playing out the
level that Kyler Murray is playing at, it should already
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be common sense justified that you should be working on
their long term deal because they've outplayed what it is
that what was constituted and play to become the new
way of of paying rookies. He's outplayed a rookie contract.
That's why I mean the deals are too long. They're
there the first round contracts. That's why you see teams
trade back up in the back end of the first
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because they identify a player that they're like, hey, i'd
love to have that guy on a four year contract
with a fifth year option. And then if you think
about that even further, they can control a guy like
Kyler Murray for six seven years while while utilizing the
franchise tags that are in place of faeer option all
those things. That's an entire your career, that's double the
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I mean, it's it's nuts. The one thing I'll say,
and I don't you know, it's it's a philosophical thing.
But here's where the NFL NFL p A to me,
misunderstood the cause and effect of slatting the rookie draft
salary pool, like how this would work. What happened was
because when you had guys like, for example, Sam Bradford
was the last big contract first overall pick fifty million
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guaranteed I've never taken a snap in the NFL, and
people are like, well, that's not justified, that's not deserved.
But you know what happened to the middle class and
other quarterbacks who you know, they weren't necessarily the best
I want to say Matt Shop was signing around that
period of time. You know what happened with those guys.
They would use those contracts as leverage and they would
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go to the team and say, this guy is getting
paid this, and he hasn't done anything in the NFL yet,
so I should at least be making close to that
or or something in the ballpark of that. And and
so what it did was every single year. It allowed
the contracts at whatever position right, whether it was a
tackle or d n or or a quarterback, it kept
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inching up and inching up and inching up. And so
every time it was kept inching up, you had veteran
players who would come back and if they're at the
top of their position, they're trying to get more than that.
If they're if they're a veteran guy who's average, he's going, well,
look at what I've done, and this guy hasnt done anything.
You've got to give me at least half or two
thirds of what that guy is getting. So I actually
think in theory slotting the rookie draft salary pool it
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really did kill the middle class and the ability for
veteran players to go and look at other contracts of
guys who never did anything and use that as leverage.
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Radio app right now. John palmerosids us here on Fox
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio's MLB Insider, also with the
MLB network, and he knows hockey, he knows soccer. He
speaks fluid, UH fluent and UH Italian here on the show. Uh.
He was a big fan of the euro Cup run
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for the Italian team last summer. JP, what's happening? It's
been too long? How we doing, Helo, Jonas and LaVar.
It is always my pleasure to speak with you in
the morning. You guys always do an outstanding show, so
great do with you today and and let us hope,
let us hope that this is the day that brings
us baseball in Okay? What where do we stand on
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this potentially getting done? Because we were hearing about a
Monday deadline or else here we're gonna miss games. Now
there's uh They're supposed to meet at what eleven a
m Eastern time, So in a few hours from now,
Where do we stand on a potential season starting on
time with Major League Baseball? Well, certainly much more hopeful
than we were twenty four hours ago. And there were
some reports ear or yesterday that the tone of those
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meetings was not good, and there was a good amount
of pessimism in the game until about maybe three or
four PM, and then things began to change. There was
some momentum. Uh, they were talking deep into the night.
And I think the key thing now report from John Ayman,
who's on the ground there in in Jupiter, Florida, where
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the meetings are taking place. John's report was that this morning,
probably as we speak and maybe a little bit later
once people wake up all across the country, is that
the union was going to pull some members of their
leadership to see what their response is to the latest
MLB proposals. So the MLB has moved in the players
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direction significantly in the last twenty four hours in terms
of adding money to the pre arbitration bonus pool, adding
money to the competitive balance tax threshold. There have been
some pretty significant movements there. And now the question is,
wasn't enough or will the union come back and try
to get a little bit more out of the process
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before things certainly wrap up today And this is this
has to be the day. There has to be some
answers as to where things standards of this moment, and uh,
here we are in the month of March and it
certainly again the top line point is a deal is
not yet done, uh not at all. That there are
still plenty of differences to be bridge in the next
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few hours, we assume, but at least they're talking about
ways to bridge them as opposed to figure pointing and negativity.
This is a very fluid process, but it's one that
has moved substantially in the right direction over the last
twenty four hours. ZPN and negotiations. Situations that come to
the last moments, as as this one is coming to,
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pressure mounts and people have to to play the game
of chicken masterfully to try to get what they want.
They now they may have gotten what they've already wanted
by now, um in terms of the players, and they
might be fighting for more before they concede to what
what's taking place. But who who right now has more
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pressure on? Seemingly it would be the owners, But if
you really think about it, baseball is not America's pastime
like it once was, um and and now this is
kind of maybe could turn into a turbulent situation for
for players and an organizations. So who has more pressure
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on them to make sure that they get a deal done?
That's an excellent question. I I do think there's certainly
is pressure on each side. It's a different kind of pressure.
I think with MLB, You're exactly right. Uh, we are
at a moment here where you look around the sports
landscape in our country and and while playing, people have
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made parallels and mentioned and said, well and in there
was the work stoppage that had canceled the previous year's
World Series, and eventually fans came back and and many
fans did. But America and is different than America now
you look at just the baseball doesn't quite add the
same cultural currency candidly now than it did then in
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terms of how many people are talking about it every day. Um,
there are other things that that young Americans in particular
are are engaging with more often now, whether it's e sports,
video games, their phones, which didn't really exist in the
same numbers back in the mid nineties. So that there's
just a lot of relevancy that is at risk here.
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And I think if MLB does not begin this season
on time, the long term damage to the product would
be immense. And that that is where I do think
there has been some awareness in the last twenty four
hours where are the approach has changed a little because
this cannot simply be LaVar and Jonas question of how
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do I win the negotiation for dollars and cents in
the month of April. That's that's not a sufficient view
to take here. It is how do we maintain baseball's
place and hopefully grow it in different ways in the
American sports consciousness. And that is a harder thing to define.
And but by the way, there will eventually be an
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economic cost if if baseball loses that market share. If
you will, and we all reflect on you know how
often in the course of your program and others on
this network and during the course of the year, candidly
football and basketball are are discussed more often, and so
baseball has to find a way to get itself back
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in that discussion and and and and relevant in a
broad sense. And if they go away for at the time, guys,
I think the only word to use is the one
the commissioner said, which is disastrous. It would be a
disaster for the long term health of what has been
in the past America's national pastime. He is John Palm
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Rossi joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports
Radio's MLB Insider, also with the MLB Network, and get
him on Twitter at John Rossi, Jonas Knoxell, bar Arrington
with you here on FS are so JP when it
comes to this situation, UM fans look at this and
we hear the old adage, well, it's billionaires fighting with millionaires.
So it's hard to be sympathetic or hard to you know,
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pick one side or the other as far as why
this is happening. But for people out there that maybe
don't know the economic details of this whole thing like
you do, and don't know the back and forth maybe
like you do when it comes to this negotiation and
why we're at this point, who deserves more blame for
why this situation is where it's at. Is it the
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owners or is it the players union? I think there
is there's tam that goes both ways, Jonas, but I'll
say it's a little bit different kind of blame for
either one. I'll start by saying this. You mentioned the
the billionaires millionaires dynamic. I think a very good point
was made yesterday by Tom Berducci on MLB Network that
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approximately sixty one percent. While we talk a lot about
the what the average salary is and how that number
is so huge, Tom said sixty of Major League Baseball
players made less than a million dollars last year. Now.
So it's there are certainly plenty of millionaires Jonas to
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your point, but they're not all millionaires. And so one
of the most important numbers of all is that minimum
salary number, because right now it's around the five seventy
around dollars and and perhaps that number could grow into
the high sixes or maybe even the low sevens, depending
on how things go. And that's a huge deal. That
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number for a lot of people in this game, especially
if you have a brief career, matters a ton more
than if the Dodgers can spend to to ten or
two fifteen or two million dollars on the top end.
There are a lot of players, and this is the
player that I just can't I can't forget about now,
and I keep reflecting, circling back on the player who
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was just about to breakthrough and make the major leagues.
At the end of the season, well, we all know
what happens in minor league season is canceled only sixty games.
At the major league level, revenues fundamentally changed. Then last
year was sort of a stop and start kind of
a year. Uh, certainly at the minor league level it happened,
but not it wasn't normal, and we all know that
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this year we're hoping to be normal. And so now
we have this delay, So that player who was hoping
to get significant money in the major leagues in in
now two it's all in jeopardy. And so that that
player I keep thinking about where where that players just
hoping to have a career, and if they can make
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seven k, let's say times three years, even if they
never get to even if they never get to salary arbitration,
at least that that gets them or they're they're gross
number would be more than two million dollars for their career,
which is which is significant. But again we have to
remember that's that's maybe not enough money to retire on
for the rest of your life. So that there has
to be some some perspective on what the real economics
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are for the players making the minimum. And I really
hope that that these proposals reflect that an increase in
the minimum salary, while not the sextiest number in the world,
would make a huge difference in the lives of a
lot of people who play baseball for a living. All right,
j P, I'm I'm gonna switch over to dj um
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and and Jeter decides to step down, he removes himself
from it. He threw some shade at the Marlins as
he rolled out. Now, there have been conversations as to
the power struggled at took play, the shares and the
money and all these different things. Can you clear it
up for us? And and obviously this lockout has had
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an impact on what his decision was. Why now, Why
why does Derek Jeter step away and roll out now?
Because you would think that a star of his caliber,
maybe you wait until the lockout is over to walk away,
just to make sure of the things that we're discussing
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in terms of the health of the game. Why do
it now where it's like the darkest moments, so to speak.
That is a great question, and and it's a really
unique story. Yesterday, I certainly it was striking because as
you know, uh, the the negotiations now we're happening at
Roger Dean Stadium, which is where the Marlins train, so
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literally the epicenter of these negotiations, where the Union and
MLB officials are going back and for walking all over
the stadium, meeting with each other in different places. That is,
at one of the stadiums that is at the Spring
Stadium for the Miami Marlins and and their president CEO,
one of the most beloved people in the game for
the last century. UH resigns yesterday in the middle of
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all this, on deadline day. And a couple of things.
Number one, the timing, Yeah, it was it was surreal,
LaVar and Jonas, it was surreal. But I also think
that Derek a couple of things had become according to
many accounts here frustrated with perhaps his own relationship with
Bruce Sherman, who was the owner of the club or
the majority owner we could say, um. And then also
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just the lack of of spending that he saw, whether
it was from the Marlins or other clubs, and a
lack of reinvestment in trying to win. And this strikes
at the core of a lot of the issues right
now that are facing the game. UH that I should
have mentioned this earlier. To revenue sharing and and if
you are a smaller club like the Marlins are in
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terms of revenues, you get money from the larger clubs
and revenue sharing and there there's still has been a
little bit of an issue both on the part of
the larger market owners and even the players to make
sure that the people who are giving the revenue sharing
money are being good stewards of it. And I really
think that Derek was not fully satisfied with the efforts
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the Marlins were making to win, and so he he
walks away because obviously, as we all know Derek and
his competitiveness, what winning means for him. Uh, that's one
of the most sacred things that he does and in
his in his world, in his life is is compete
and compete to win, and it clearly is frustration to
well it over. And I do wonder if, in the
great retelling of this week, if years from now we
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have labor peace and uh do your questions earlier, if
we have a better tomorrow for the sport, do we
look back and say, maybe Derek's resignation was a wake
up called the both sides they had to make a
deal here, and that perhaps it's sort of sparked the process.
Maybe Derek resigned on that particular day, at that particular
time because he knew the ripple effect it would cause. Uh,
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It's very possible and perhaps one day and the retailing
of this, we'll find out exactly what Derek's motivations were
but it was a fascinating day, hard day for baseball
to lose Derek Jeter in this capacity. But I do
hope that he's back. Man. That is a great response. Man,
I mean so much, so much there. It's uh, it's
a crazy time in baseball, man, and JP, we appreciate
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every you know, you're you know, up at all hours
trying to monitor along and stay up with all this
stuff that's happening. It's been a little chaotic, but we
appreciate you popping on with us. Always a good chat.
Get him on Twitter at John Morrosie JP. Here the man.
Thanks funny, jonath LaVar, My pleasure, my friends, and I
appreciate the conversation. Can't wait for the next time and
the Jonas your kind words on the Italian team warned
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my heart on this stressful morning. So thank you for conversation.
I'm talking about That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I
was just gonna say that. There it is John palmerro
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Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it, and for that we turn it
over to our executive pro literally just lab Lap. That's right,
you guys, In case you missed it. Joan Brant put
on a freaking show last night. Two nights after setting
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a franchise record he sets, he breaks his own records,
putting up fifty two points, including this buzzer beater from
the Grizzly Radio Network Tackle Listen Adams baseball pass one
up two Moran catches, he over a bit air, He
caught it mid air. They quoting it up and in.
You have got to be kidding me. John Morant is
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at an absolutely another level. A baseball pass caught in
mid air, pre directed to the basket from twenty feet out.
Oh my godness, what are we witnessing? Greatness? It is
not even an applic well description. Insanity. Other world league
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take them off bag of up a quarter number twelve
on for John Grant. Okay, can I make a hot
take here on this play? This inbounds passed by Steven
Adams to John Morant, greater inbounds pass than Hill too
late during the n c A tournament years ago. Not
not from the magnitude of it, but the actual degree
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of difficulty. Steven Adams hitting John Morant in the corner
and him turning around and hitting it at the buzzer, unbelievable.
One of the great players you'll ever see. Second to
of the LaVar leave, John Morant might be the best
in game dunker we've seen. Now Vince Carter has still
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has it. Dominique Wilkins is definitely in the conversation. But
John Morant is making a really, really, really strong case
for being the most electrifying in game dunker. Plus he's
because he's smaller. It looks so much more emphatic, like
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just there's a there's a violence to it as well.
Likes explosive. Dominique Wilkins is my favorite dunker of aim
because it was explosive. That was the two foot dunk.
I love Dominique Wilkins Man, he was explosive. But but
Vince Carter, Vince sanity is just it's still like you
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still got to take a moment and stop and be
like man for what jam Moran is doing right now.
If you think about what Vince Carter was doing, Like
he was making like dunk where he Almos jumps over
Kevin Love and he misses the dunk. That's a dunk
that Vince Carter makes, you know what I mean. Like,
and he's taller, Yeah, it's taller. There was a conversation
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about Zion or John Morant when they came out in
the draft. That debate is getting a little bit further apart. Listen,
I love Zion Williamson, but it's starting to look more
and more like Greg Oden, Kevin Durant like that and
too yeah when they went yeah yeah yeah, it just
it feels like we're yeah yeah, it's it's just like
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you start doing comps to it's crazy. What else we
got you guys. The NFL has announced the Hall of
Fame Game this year at Canon. It will be between
the Jaguars and the Raiders, and it will be the
debut for both Doug Peterson for the Jags and Josh
McDaniels for the Raiders. Yeah. So that's the next NFL game, correct,
that's correct, that's gonna be August fourth. God, I can't
wait to gamble my as. No one but Berto will
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be watching that, Bernto, who's playing in that game? Who's
playing in that game? Berno, Yeah, I will be watching it.
You know. You know what could have made it more
interesting though? At two different teams? Well, sorry, you could
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have made it more interesting. Just do a one off
and have Gruden and urban Meyer come back and coach
these teams from I am now, I would watch that.
I would watch that. Bring back Gruden and urban Meyer
for one game each, just for the Hall of Fame,
filmed them in a nearby bar and see who see
who wins that war? Right that is? Listen, I'm gonna
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gamble my ass socker for that game. It's the next
NFL game we got. It's not until August. We've got
five months of non football. You're not get me excited
for that. Stay and different digs by then too, huh.
Probably not listen with the way we behave in this studio,
you think they're about this anywhere else? I don't know.
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After the performance you just put on during the break,
I will have to be much more aware from what
I hear. We literally like the only ones in this building,
like literally okay, walking in here and fire alarm is
going offurity guard is sleep yet, how mean anything goes
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Is the best of two rows in a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox Sports Radio. I believe that we are nine
or ten shows in a row that we've had to
dump something. I mean, we have been on a roll.
What do we have to dump? Yesterday Verna, Roberto dumped himself.
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I don't know that he necessarily needed to, but Roberta
dumped Hi one more time. I didn't understand what he said.
He dumped himself. Okay, that's not what I meant. Yeah,
that's kind of funny. I'm glad Berto was there with
you because I'm like, wait, wait, that's because that's where
where Brady was. If you told me yesterday like, oh,
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I had dumped myself because you got the red button,
I would have been like, like, so what you do?
Where were you a want to happen? You know, I've
been thinking about like your your pants or something side
of the road. I am clearly learning that that is
a part of your humor, your humor train, like instead
of like the red button, dump like dumping as in
something else, like like squatty potty dumping. Lavarna a little
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bit more professional than that. I try to keep it
a little bit above board, you know what I mean.
Brady Brady likes to take it low, you know what
I mean, But I like it, like it creates balance.
Don't know why we can't just have a you know,
an adult sports stock radio show here. I don't know
why we want to go to the tour technically. I mean,
what Brady uses as humor is adult humor, you know.
And it's so airy. It's just such an airy deal.
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And then I find myself comparing it, like when I'm
at by myself, I'm like, which one do I fall under?
Here's the thing, though, depending on what was what happened
the night before, you can't be certain that that's a
drop or in real time, depending on what Lee and
Roberto have gotten into the night, that is true. I
just look at the door. The door is cracked right now,
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so there's clearly some real stuff there. Sometimes you can
even see the fumes, like the way that the windows
are tinted. You can sometimes see the fumes. It's not good. Yeah,
it's not good at um, but here is here's what
is good. Um Bold Bold strategies in the in the
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world of sports different approaches to certain things. UM and
Kyler Murray's agent, UM took a completely different approach yesterday
when it came to and this happened right after we
went off the air, when it came to letting it
be known that maybe they would like a contract extension
or maybe they would like to work something out long
term with the Arizona Cardinals. Has been kind of a
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weird past couple of weeks for Kyler and the Cardinals
and UM basically a three parter. Part one of his
statement on social media. Uh, he talked about Eric Burkhardt,
Kyla Murray's agent, talked about where the Cardinals were and
where they are now with him. Uh, he He's not wrong.
They were a bad organization and a bad franchise. They've
improved every year with Kyler Murray. Then in part two,
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he came up with a plan and a strategy to
get Kyler paid and to also make it makes sense
for the team and some other players on their roster.
And then part three basically put all the pressure on
the Cardinals to figure this thing out and then also
reiterate what they have in Kyler Murray. And so here
we are, Uh, they have laid it on the table
and just said this is what we're thinking. This is
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so everybody knows what's going on, and now we wait
to see what the cardinal's response. Is. Pretty unique strategy
here can I ask this question? Though? I found it
to be incredibly reasonable. And Eric Burkhard, who's Kyler Calamari's
Who's who's Kyla Murray's agent. He's he's been known for
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a while. He's a really good guy. And anyone who's
met would would would tell you that this looks to
me to be I don't want to say, like a
desperation play, but it feels that way because you'd think
behind the scenes you're maybe having some productive talk, so
there's been some momentum, and I don't think you let
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this stuff go public unless you can't even get a callback.
I mean it feels to me like maybe Steve Come.
I don't know if Michael Bidwall is involved in the process.
I would assume an owner is when you're talking about
an extension that's gonna be north of a hundred and
fifty million too, maybe two and a million. I saw
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in one figure the market value for a six year
deal for Calamari is two fifty eight million, which comes
out to roughly forty two million a year. So if
that's the sort of money you're talking about investing into
a player, of course the owner is gonna have to
be involved. Right, There's gonna be a significant portion in
a signing bonus, which they talked about in this And
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as much as that's like, well, of course he wants
a huge signing bonus, what agent, what player does it? Right?
The agents taken fees off of that. The player wants
the money in this pocket now. But the truth of
the matter is they want to be able to spread
a chunk of this contract over the course of you know,
excuse me, I spread a chunk of his uh signing
bonus over a course of his contract. So it creates
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more cap space. So Chandler Jones, who's a free agent
this year, you can sign him back. Zach Erchie is
a free agent, you can sign him back. A j
Green free agent, maybe sign him back. You know, there's
all those decisions you've got to make. James Conner free agent,
maybe you sign him back. Christian Kirk, like, they got
a lot of roster decisions to make, And I actually
think and maybe I'm just you know, trying to defend
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the player here. It's really reasonable, like what he's done
in his career, what they've done during his time since
he's gotten there, they're all reasonable requests. And this is
how the organization, in my opinion, should be looking at this.
They should be saying, let's extend him now so we
can rework all these other contracts and make sure we
bring some of these guys back and build on what
we've built so far. Like, am I seeing this wrong?
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I think they would be wise to try to create
stability in the midst of everything that that has been
taking place In terms of speculation for Arizona. I would
agree with that sentiment, and I don't think it's unreasonable
by my estimation. And another thing to think about is
when you're talking about the whole desperation deal, well, maybe
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that now justifies or clears up why Kyler Murray scrubbed
his his accounts, you know, and and didn't have the
picture showing or you know, kind of the the outward
support of of being an Arizona Cardinal. Maybe there was
something that, you know, maybe that lack of response, maybe
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the response that they did get that was maybe not
the response that they wanted. Um, maybe it turned Cayler
Murray off, and and maybe that might have been why
the results were the results with him in terms of
his personal social media handles. But I think if you're Arizona,
you're closer to being better than you're you are to
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being worse. And and I think we all would attribute
that to Kyler Murray being the quarterback of this team.
We've seen when he's healthy and he's motivated and he's
he's playing well, this team goes as he goes, and
and so to me, even though they've tail spend at
the end of the season, I mean, I'm much rather
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be on a team that takes nose dives than a
team that doesn't have the opportunity to get high enough
to dive in the first place. So, I mean, sometimes
it's just all about relativity in terms of how you're
you're looking at it from a vantage point of where
you're at. Where was the lie and anything that he
said in the statement, like I can't find one. Everything
he said was spot on, And so when I saw initially,
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when I saw they had come out, I just thought, well,
that's kind of strange, Like why why would he take
this approach? And then I read through it. I thought,
I can't find anything that he lied about there. There's nothing.
Everything there is factual. They were terrible when Kyler Murray
got there. They've improved every year, were in the playoffs
last season. Uh, he's still improving as a player, that
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is a fact. He listed all his credentials this early
in his career. And then it came up with a
strategy that seemingly looks like it would make sense. Obviously,
you know, who knows whether or not, you know, step
by step they follow along with that, I would doubt it,
but they at least put together a plan in place,
a solution. This is what we're thinking. This is where
we're at. We don't want to, you know, play this
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out and have rumors and reports. You know, Kyler did
the whole scrub as social media thing, probably a regrettable moment.
But the Cardinals also came back. The Cardinals came back
with something this report that came out where they you know,
threw him under the bus, and I was, oh, sources
are saying he's a terrible teammate, he's this, he's this
and this, and the Cardinals just said, Okay, here's what
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we actually are. We're a better organization now with Kyler
Murray at quarterback than what you were before. That's a fact.
Here's a plan that we have in place, and this
is where we stand with everything. I I just I
can't find the lion anything he said. So when I
saw people piling on and criticizing, and I thought, okay,
it's a different approach, But nothing he said was incorrect
in the entire statement that I found. You know what,
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the only problem is about like him and how much
leverage he has, because not just from what you're pointing
out with the fact that he won Offensive Rookie of
the Year, as you know, his first year, he goes
to two Pro Bowls after that, so you're looking at
going like he's done his part statistically, he's gotten better,
the team has gotten better every step of the way,
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like everything is building where you wanted to go. But
the other leverage point he has is baseball. But the
problem is, unfortunately we've we've got baseball and I don't
even know where that agreement's at at this point. But
imagine if they weren't in a lockout. Imagine if you
know both sides have come to an agreement now he's leveraging.
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I believe it's the Oakland Athletics who have his rights,
and he could even be saying, well, you guys don't
want me to, I'll just I'll go play baseball, Like
I'll literally go out there play some baseball. We'll see
how things go, and then we'll see if you want
to sign me to a bigger deal. Maybe I should
go back to doing that and go that route. So
it is fascinating that I think he's doing all we
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can at this moment. But if there was a deal
in place in baseball we weren't in a lockout, maybe
they'd be utilizing that angle as well. We haven't heard
that yet. I think one more point that should be
pointed out is rookie contracts. That's still somewhat relatively new
and and basically what a rookie contract is is set
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for two things. One because veterans don't want to feel
like they're getting outdone by someone who hasn't done anything
in the league yet. And two, it now becomes a
safer investment having these guys slotted in terms of where
they're at and coming into the draft. Owner when we
came into the draft, we were getting paid. If you
are a top top pick, number one pick, number two pick,
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you're getting paid right out of the gate. And and
whether for when, for laws, for good or for bad.
You got a blockbuster deal and didn't even play one
down in the league. So so now when you look
at rookie contracts, if somebody's going into their third fourth
year of their first deal and they're playing out the
level that Kyler Murray is playing at, it should already
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be common sense justified that you should be working on
their long term deal because they've outplayed what it is
that what was constituted and play to become the new
way of of paying rookies. He's outplayed a rookie contract.
That's why I mean the deals are too long. They're
there the first round contracts. That's why you see teams
trade back up in the back end of the first
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because they identify a player that they're like, hey, i'd
love to have that guy on a four year contract
with a fifth year option. And then if you think
about that even further, they can control a guy like
Kyler Murray for six seven years while while utilizing the
franchise tags that are in place of faeer option all
those things. That's an entire your career, that's double the
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I mean, it's it's nuts. The one thing I'll say,
and I don't you know, it's it's a philosophical thing.
But here's where the NFL NFL p A to me,
misunderstood the cause and effect of slatting the rookie draft
salary pool, like how this would work. What happened was
because when you had guys like, for example, Sam Bradford
was the last big contract first overall pick fifty million
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guaranteed I've never taken a snap in the NFL, and
people are like, well, that's not justified, that's not deserved.
But you know what happened to the middle class and
other quarterbacks who you know, they weren't necessarily the best
I want to say Matt Shop was signing around that
period of time. You know what happened with those guys.
They would use those contracts as leverage and they would
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go to the team and say, this guy is getting
paid this, and he hasn't done anything in the NFL yet,
so I should at least be making close to that
or or something in the ballpark of that. And and
so what it did was every single year. It allowed
the contracts at whatever position right, whether it was a
tackle or d n or or a quarterback, it kept
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inching up and inching up and inching up. And so
every time it was kept inching up, you had veteran
players who would come back and if they're at the
top of their position, they're trying to get more than that.
If they're if they're a veteran guy who's average, he's going, well,
look at what I've done, and this guy hasnt done anything.
You've got to give me at least half or two
thirds of what that guy is getting. So I actually
think in theory slotting the rookie draft salary pool it
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really did kill the middle class and the ability for
veteran players to go and look at other contracts of
guys who never did anything and use that as leverage.
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Radio app right now. John palmerosids us here on Fox
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio's MLB Insider, also with the
MLB network, and he knows hockey, he knows soccer. He
speaks fluid, UH fluent and UH Italian here on the show. Uh.
He was a big fan of the euro Cup run
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for the Italian team last summer. JP, what's happening? It's
been too long? How we doing, Helo, Jonas and LaVar.
It is always my pleasure to speak with you in
the morning. You guys always do an outstanding show, so
great do with you today and and let us hope,
let us hope that this is the day that brings
us baseball in Okay? What where do we stand on
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this potentially getting done? Because we were hearing about a
Monday deadline or else here we're gonna miss games. Now
there's uh They're supposed to meet at what eleven a
m Eastern time, So in a few hours from now,
Where do we stand on a potential season starting on
time with Major League Baseball? Well, certainly much more hopeful
than we were twenty four hours ago. And there were
some reports ear or yesterday that the tone of those
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meetings was not good, and there was a good amount
of pessimism in the game until about maybe three or
four PM, and then things began to change. There was
some momentum. Uh, they were talking deep into the night.
And I think the key thing now report from John Ayman,
who's on the ground there in in Jupiter, Florida, where
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the meetings are taking place. John's report was that this morning,
probably as we speak and maybe a little bit later
once people wake up all across the country, is that
the union was going to pull some members of their
leadership to see what their response is to the latest
MLB proposals. So the MLB has moved in the players
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direction significantly in the last twenty four hours in terms
of adding money to the pre arbitration bonus pool, adding
money to the competitive balance tax threshold. There have been
some pretty significant movements there. And now the question is,
wasn't enough or will the union come back and try
to get a little bit more out of the process
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before things certainly wrap up today And this is this
has to be the day. There has to be some
answers as to where things standards of this moment, and uh,
here we are in the month of March and it
certainly again the top line point is a deal is
not yet done, uh not at all. That there are
still plenty of differences to be bridge in the next
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few hours, we assume, but at least they're talking about
ways to bridge them as opposed to figure pointing and negativity.
This is a very fluid process, but it's one that
has moved substantially in the right direction over the last
twenty four hours. ZPN and negotiations. Situations that come to
the last moments, as as this one is coming to,
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pressure mounts and people have to to play the game
of chicken masterfully to try to get what they want.
They now they may have gotten what they've already wanted
by now, um in terms of the players, and they
might be fighting for more before they concede to what
what's taking place. But who who right now has more
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pressure on? Seemingly it would be the owners, But if
you really think about it, baseball is not America's pastime
like it once was, um and and now this is
kind of maybe could turn into a turbulent situation for
for players and an organizations. So who has more pressure
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on them to make sure that they get a deal done?
That's an excellent question. I I do think there's certainly
is pressure on each side. It's a different kind of pressure.
I think with MLB, You're exactly right. Uh, we are
at a moment here where you look around the sports
landscape in our country and and while playing, people have
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made parallels and mentioned and said, well and in there
was the work stoppage that had canceled the previous year's
World Series, and eventually fans came back and and many
fans did. But America and is different than America now
you look at just the baseball doesn't quite add the
same cultural currency candidly now than it did then in
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terms of how many people are talking about it every day. Um,
there are other things that that young Americans in particular
are are engaging with more often now, whether it's e sports,
video games, their phones, which didn't really exist in the
same numbers back in the mid nineties. So that there's
just a lot of relevancy that is at risk here.
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And I think if MLB does not begin this season
on time, the long term damage to the product would
be immense. And that that is where I do think
there has been some awareness in the last twenty four
hours where are the approach has changed a little because
this cannot simply be LaVar and Jonas question of how
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do I win the negotiation for dollars and cents in
the month of April. That's that's not a sufficient view
to take here. It is how do we maintain baseball's
place and hopefully grow it in different ways in the
American sports consciousness. And that is a harder thing to define.
And but by the way, there will eventually be an
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economic cost if if baseball loses that market share. If
you will, and we all reflect on you know how
often in the course of your program and others on
this network and during the course of the year, candidly
football and basketball are are discussed more often, and so
baseball has to find a way to get itself back
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in that discussion and and and and relevant in a
broad sense. And if they go away for at the time, guys,
I think the only word to use is the one
the commissioner said, which is disastrous. It would be a
disaster for the long term health of what has been
in the past America's national pastime. He is John Palm
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Rossi joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports
Radio's MLB Insider, also with the MLB Network, and get
him on Twitter at John Rossi, Jonas Knoxell, bar Arrington
with you here on FS are so JP when it
comes to this situation, UM fans look at this and
we hear the old adage, well, it's billionaires fighting with millionaires.
So it's hard to be sympathetic or hard to you know,
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pick one side or the other as far as why
this is happening. But for people out there that maybe
don't know the economic details of this whole thing like
you do, and don't know the back and forth maybe
like you do when it comes to this negotiation and
why we're at this point, who deserves more blame for
why this situation is where it's at. Is it the
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owners or is it the players union? I think there
is there's tam that goes both ways, Jonas, but I'll
say it's a little bit different kind of blame for
either one. I'll start by saying this. You mentioned the
the billionaires millionaires dynamic. I think a very good point
was made yesterday by Tom Berducci on MLB Network that
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approximately sixty one percent. While we talk a lot about
the what the average salary is and how that number
is so huge, Tom said sixty of Major League Baseball
players made less than a million dollars last year. Now.
So it's there are certainly plenty of millionaires Jonas to
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your point, but they're not all millionaires. And so one
of the most important numbers of all is that minimum
salary number, because right now it's around the five seventy
around dollars and and perhaps that number could grow into
the high sixes or maybe even the low sevens, depending
on how things go. And that's a huge deal. That
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number for a lot of people in this game, especially
if you have a brief career, matters a ton more
than if the Dodgers can spend to to ten or
two fifteen or two million dollars on the top end.
There are a lot of players, and this is the
player that I just can't I can't forget about now,
and I keep reflecting, circling back on the player who
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was just about to breakthrough and make the major leagues.
At the end of the season, well, we all know
what happens in minor league season is canceled only sixty games.
At the major league level, revenues fundamentally changed. Then last
year was sort of a stop and start kind of
a year. Uh, certainly at the minor league level it happened,
but not it wasn't normal, and we all know that
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this year we're hoping to be normal. And so now
we have this delay, So that player who was hoping
to get significant money in the major leagues in in
now two it's all in jeopardy. And so that that
player I keep thinking about where where that players just
hoping to have a career, and if they can make
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seven k, let's say times three years, even if they
never get to even if they never get to salary arbitration,
at least that that gets them or they're they're gross
number would be more than two million dollars for their career,
which is which is significant. But again we have to
remember that's that's maybe not enough money to retire on
for the rest of your life. So that there has
to be some some perspective on what the real economics
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are for the players making the minimum. And I really
hope that that these proposals reflect that an increase in
the minimum salary, while not the sextiest number in the world,
would make a huge difference in the lives of a
lot of people who play baseball for a living. All right,
j P, I'm I'm gonna switch over to dj um
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and and Jeter decides to step down, he removes himself
from it. He threw some shade at the Marlins as
he rolled out. Now, there have been conversations as to
the power struggled at took play, the shares and the
money and all these different things. Can you clear it
up for us? And and obviously this lockout has had
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an impact on what his decision was. Why now, Why
why does Derek Jeter step away and roll out now?
Because you would think that a star of his caliber,
maybe you wait until the lockout is over to walk away,
just to make sure of the things that we're discussing
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in terms of the health of the game. Why do
it now where it's like the darkest moments, so to speak.
That is a great question, and and it's a really
unique story. Yesterday, I certainly it was striking because as
you know, uh, the the negotiations now we're happening at
Roger Dean Stadium, which is where the Marlins train, so
(24:53):
literally the epicenter of these negotiations, where the Union and
MLB officials are going back and for walking all over
the stadium, meeting with each other in different places. That is,
at one of the stadiums that is at the Spring
Stadium for the Miami Marlins and and their president CEO,
one of the most beloved people in the game for
the last century. UH resigns yesterday in the middle of
(25:17):
all this, on deadline day. And a couple of things.
Number one, the timing, Yeah, it was it was surreal,
LaVar and Jonas, it was surreal. But I also think
that Derek a couple of things had become according to
many accounts here frustrated with perhaps his own relationship with
Bruce Sherman, who was the owner of the club or
the majority owner we could say, um. And then also
(25:40):
just the lack of of spending that he saw, whether
it was from the Marlins or other clubs, and a
lack of reinvestment in trying to win. And this strikes
at the core of a lot of the issues right
now that are facing the game. UH that I should
have mentioned this earlier. To revenue sharing and and if
you are a smaller club like the Marlins are in
(26:03):
terms of revenues, you get money from the larger clubs
and revenue sharing and there there's still has been a
little bit of an issue both on the part of
the larger market owners and even the players to make
sure that the people who are giving the revenue sharing
money are being good stewards of it. And I really
think that Derek was not fully satisfied with the efforts
(26:25):
the Marlins were making to win, and so he he
walks away because obviously, as we all know Derek and
his competitiveness, what winning means for him. Uh, that's one
of the most sacred things that he does and in
his in his world, in his life is is compete
and compete to win, and it clearly is frustration to
well it over. And I do wonder if, in the
great retelling of this week, if years from now we
(26:47):
have labor peace and uh do your questions earlier, if
we have a better tomorrow for the sport, do we
look back and say, maybe Derek's resignation was a wake
up called the both sides they had to make a
deal here, and that perhaps it's sort of sparked the process.
Maybe Derek resigned on that particular day, at that particular
time because he knew the ripple effect it would cause. Uh,
(27:09):
It's very possible and perhaps one day and the retailing
of this, we'll find out exactly what Derek's motivations were
but it was a fascinating day, hard day for baseball
to lose Derek Jeter in this capacity. But I do
hope that he's back. Man. That is a great response. Man,
I mean so much, so much there. It's uh, it's
a crazy time in baseball, man, and JP, we appreciate
(27:32):
every you know, you're you know, up at all hours
trying to monitor along and stay up with all this
stuff that's happening. It's been a little chaotic, but we
appreciate you popping on with us. Always a good chat.
Get him on Twitter at John Morrosie JP. Here the man.
Thanks funny, jonath LaVar, My pleasure, my friends, and I
appreciate the conversation. Can't wait for the next time and
the Jonas your kind words on the Italian team warned
(27:55):
my heart on this stressful morning. So thank you for conversation.
I'm talking about That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I
was just gonna say that. There it is John palmerro
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Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it, and for that we turn it
over to our executive pro literally just lab Lap. That's right,
you guys, In case you missed it. Joan Brant put
on a freaking show last night. Two nights after setting
(29:23):
a franchise record he sets, he breaks his own records,
putting up fifty two points, including this buzzer beater from
the Grizzly Radio Network Tackle Listen Adams baseball pass one
up two Moran catches, he over a bit air, He
caught it mid air. They quoting it up and in.
You have got to be kidding me. John Morant is
(29:44):
at an absolutely another level. A baseball pass caught in
mid air, pre directed to the basket from twenty feet out.
Oh my godness, what are we witnessing? Greatness? It is
not even an applic well description. Insanity. Other world league
(30:04):
take them off bag of up a quarter number twelve
on for John Grant. Okay, can I make a hot
take here on this play? This inbounds passed by Steven
Adams to John Morant, greater inbounds pass than Hill too
late during the n c A tournament years ago. Not
not from the magnitude of it, but the actual degree
(30:24):
of difficulty. Steven Adams hitting John Morant in the corner
and him turning around and hitting it at the buzzer, unbelievable.
One of the great players you'll ever see. Second to
of the LaVar leave, John Morant might be the best
in game dunker we've seen. Now Vince Carter has still
(30:44):
has it. Dominique Wilkins is definitely in the conversation. But
John Morant is making a really, really, really strong case
for being the most electrifying in game dunker. Plus he's
because he's smaller. It looks so much more emphatic, like
(31:04):
just there's a there's a violence to it as well.
Likes explosive. Dominique Wilkins is my favorite dunker of aim
because it was explosive. That was the two foot dunk.
I love Dominique Wilkins Man, he was explosive. But but
Vince Carter, Vince sanity is just it's still like you
(31:25):
still got to take a moment and stop and be
like man for what jam Moran is doing right now.
If you think about what Vince Carter was doing, Like
he was making like dunk where he Almos jumps over
Kevin Love and he misses the dunk. That's a dunk
that Vince Carter makes, you know what I mean. Like,
and he's taller, Yeah, it's taller. There was a conversation
(31:46):
about Zion or John Morant when they came out in
the draft. That debate is getting a little bit further apart. Listen,
I love Zion Williamson, but it's starting to look more
and more like Greg Oden, Kevin Durant like that and
too yeah when they went yeah yeah yeah, it just
it feels like we're yeah yeah, it's it's just like
(32:10):
you start doing comps to it's crazy. What else we
got you guys. The NFL has announced the Hall of
Fame Game this year at Canon. It will be between
the Jaguars and the Raiders, and it will be the
debut for both Doug Peterson for the Jags and Josh
McDaniels for the Raiders. Yeah. So that's the next NFL game, correct,
that's correct, that's gonna be August fourth. God, I can't
wait to gamble my as. No one but Berto will
(32:34):
be watching that, Bernto, who's playing in that game? Who's
playing in that game? Berno, Yeah, I will be watching it.
You know. You know what could have made it more
interesting though? At two different teams? Well, sorry, you could
(32:56):
have made it more interesting. Just do a one off
and have Gruden and urban Meyer come back and coach
these teams from I am now, I would watch that.
I would watch that. Bring back Gruden and urban Meyer
for one game each, just for the Hall of Fame,
filmed them in a nearby bar and see who see
who wins that war? Right that is? Listen, I'm gonna
(33:19):
gamble my ass socker for that game. It's the next
NFL game we got. It's not until August. We've got
five months of non football. You're not get me excited
for that. Stay and different digs by then too, huh.
Probably not listen with the way we behave in this studio,
you think they're about this anywhere else? I don't know.
(33:39):
After the performance you just put on during the break,
I will have to be much more aware from what
I hear. We literally like the only ones in this building,
like literally okay, walking in here and fire alarm is
going offurity guard is sleep yet, how mean anything goes
(34:04):
at this spot. I ain't telling y'all to come mess
with us or anything like that, but I've just said
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