March 21, 2022 • 34 mins
On the Best of 2 Pros and A Cup of Joe, Brady, LaVar and Jonas discuss Deshaun Watson’s awkward transition out of Houston. Baker Mayfield’s dilemma and value are put under a microscope by the guys. Then, some BQ News!
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We're taking you all the way up until nine am
Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific, and we have got craziness
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in the n c A Tournament. We're gonna get to
But there was some craziness that went down on Friday
because apparently UH reports were indicating that the Cleveland Browns
were being told that they were no longer in the
Deshaun Watson sweep Steaks and then UH wilay million dollars
guaranteed a five year deal and the trade is done,
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and now Deshaun Watson is a a brand new quarterback
for the Cleveland Browns. How bad it? Huh? How about
it that the Deshaun Watson ride? Things changed quickly from
uh from our conversation Friday, Lapard Jonas and I were
just talking about the disappointment Browns fans butt's feel. It's
not only did they not get DeShawn Watson, they don't
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get Baker Mayfield because they made him upset. But now
we look at a scenario where they come back around
and they do get Watson. Mayfield is, you know, going
to be eventually moved on from I guess my question
is just what what changed in your mind? What changed
in your mind as to how the Browns got back
into the picture after initially being told they were out.
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They were one of the two teams along with Carolina.
What did the Browns do differently? Or maybe it's not
what the Browns did, Maybe it's what Baker Mayfield did. Maybe,
I mean, I I just think it came down to
the money. I mean, he you know, he said he
didn't want to play for for the Texans for reasons.
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I guess he wasn't included in the the search for
a new head coach when that took place, And and
I rubbed him the wrong way if I recall correctly.
And if that's the case, then I would say, you're
not going to You're not going to any of these
teams with the idea that you're going to the super
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Bowl immediately. But for some strange reason, the moment he
signed with Cleveland, people started thinking that Cleveland now is,
you know, should be in the hunt to go to
the super Bowl. I'm not I'm not certain that you
know that's what it is. I mean, they definitely have
made some good moves and free agency to improve their team,
to upgrade their team, and not the position most necessary
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to to win. But I just think it came down
the money. I mean, I think that they put uh
an amount of money on the table for for Watson,
that it was an offer you just couldn't say no to,
and and and that probably may have been you know,
Baker Mayfield could have played a large part in that
because you were going to basically lose him because he
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didn't want to play for them anymore. So that could
have been a situation where he sits out whatever it
may be. But yeah, I mean I think that all
things given were the reason why the Cleveland Browns jumped
into their bag of tricks and pulled out a whole
lot of uh um scratch for for you know, Deshaun Watson.
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I had to be real careful. I was using my
terminology there because we know what Deshaun Watson situation is.
You got to use different terminology in the right. But
you landed it, you know, you did land the man.
I didn't see the red button, let's see. So Mary
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Kay Cabot, who has been pretty spot on with this
whole thing, covering the story on the Baker Mayfield side
from Cleveland dot Com. But despite what Baker Mayfield has said,
uh she reported that Baker Mayfield was ready to sit
out the season, that he was not going to play
for them after this stuff was leaked out, that they
were meeting with Deshaun Watson and that that may have
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led to the Browns, you know, contacting Deshaun Watson again
and probably sweetening the pod like like that. That would
be the assumption. I'm just surprised because we've I mean,
Kirk Cousins is the only other quarterback that's gotten a
fully guaranteed contract, right, I mean is that I think
he's the only other guy, right? So, so are you
surprised that the guy who set the market from a
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guaranteed contract standpoint is the same guy who's been out
for over a year and is dealing with twenty two
different lawsuits, first criminally and now from the civil side.
Uh and all the other chaos that comes along with it.
I just didn't think DeShawn Watson was going to be
the guy in his situation that was going to set
the market. That's a surprise to me. Well, I think
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all over the league you're seeing quarterbacks look to capitalize
on resetting the market at that position. And we can
get into Matt Stafford, even Aaron Rodgers obviously, who came
to this agreement before the Watson trade and contract. But
what you're seeing now is basically everyone saying, you know,
I want to leap frog what Mahomes did. And Mahomes
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was somewhere in the ballpark of forty five mill per
year UM. A lot of them are jumping north of that.
Rogers now fifty million per year average annual salary. So
that was one of the goals. But the crazy thing
is the commitment that the Browns made to him two
million fully guaranteed, which is unheard of. It's the most
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amount of guaranteed money in a contract ever in the
National Football League, and it's the most by wide margin.
The last fully guaranteed deal that was even close to that,
all right, or I shouldn't say fully guaranteed, but the
last portion of a contract guaranteed that that extent was
the hundred fifty million dollars that we saw with Roger's contract,
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which is a short term deal, but still it's eighty
million dollars more than that. Like, take it to the bank.
If I want to walk into any big bank around
this country, I go, I'm gonna make two dred thirty
million dollars. Can I get a loan for fifty million? Yep,
Snap of the fingers, You've got it. It is guaranteed. Now,
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they might not for this reason, all those all that
money goes away if he slips up on some k
y or something. If all of it goes away the
second he has an issue off of this, I can't.
But if he slips up and those you know, he
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he falls onto the player of conduct policy, it would
avoid out those guarantees. So this is where as much
as it looks like on on the surface as a
huge guarantee and a big play by Cleveland. They're kind
of sitting back, like, well, the onus is really on
de Shawn if he wants to actually make the money
that's within this contract and for us to honor our
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end of the deal, he's got to honor his end
of the deal, and he's got to kick whatever habit
he's developed. That would equate to twenty two civil lawsuits,
twenty two separate people who are suing him for what
the hell is happening off the field. And so then
there's that end of it. But I do think Baker
Mayfield played a role, whereas maybe if Baker and that's
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that's not his personality. And by the way, I don't
know many quarterbacks that would like that it come to
you and say, hey, we're gonna look and look for
someone better than you, but don't just stay at home.
Keep everything good for us here at We're gonna come
back later on. But I don't know many p An
quarterbacks would be like, I'm okay with this. I'm not
gonna want to trade. I don't want to go elsewhere.
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First over, I'll pick of the draft, but let me
be let me be your doormat while you're trying to
figure out whether you can sign somebody else. Are you
gonna be home in time for dinner? Are you gonna
be home with time for dinner? Unbelievable. Let me ask
you guys a question, because I don't I really don't know.
So I'm I'm seeing if you guys do in terms
of with the civil lawsuits, because that's becoming a point
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of of conversation in terms of, you know, how to
move forward. I saw what Richie Richie Hornberger had to
say about it um in terms of, you know, the
gambling being a one year suspension and DeShawn Watson getting
you know, awarded a a largest contract in the history
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of the game. Just just hit me with this one.
Is there anything that the civil suits can do that
would force the NFL's hand on on suspending him or
disciplining him or is he cleared at this point in
terms of any culpability that would be kind of lobbed
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his way or justified in terms of you know, I
guess punishment. Yeah, you know what I mean, there can
still be a trial. I mean, this could still end
up being public knowledge when it's all said and done.
The difference between obviously, you know, criminal and civil is
you know, once the criminal charges are dropped and dropped,
that doesn't mean that they can't reservice or come back
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around or be trialed again or brought up again. But
it seems highly unlikely in a civil case. You know,
this could still go to trial now that the burden
of proved is much lower, which is why usually the
defendant or Deshaun Watson in this case, is going to
look to settle and then now, I mean, look, with
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this contract and everything else, the trades occur, and civil
lawsuits can take forever. I mean literally, they can drag
on on forever years and he might just end up
settling and then having them son an NDA just to
move past it. At this point, if you're just saw
Watson as much as he wants to clear his name
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and say, oh, I want to be able to speak
on it and speak my side of the story, Dude,
you got to a new team, you got your contract,
you got everything else. Why would you want to potentially
poke the bear and have something else come from all this?
I would just I would just be really surprised if
there's not a settlement soon, considering the new contract he
just got. Uh and some of that. Those money's he's
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definitely gonna need, given what that settlement may look like.
I mean some of the details on the sworn Affidavid's
from the from the accusers, I mean it is it's
I mean, you can't even you can't even retell them
on the air. It's really uncomfort It's it's bad and
so used to some of that. I just I've all
thought that the entire time, how much more of this
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is going to come out? Because those those are available,
you can find those online and look through them yourself.
It's it's perfect word, it's really uncomfortable. And then I
also just look at the situation and I go when
people are talking about the Cleveland Browns, because the Browns
are getting some heat, You've got people out there saying, well,
I won't root for the Browns. Ever, again, I can't
believe they made this decision. The Browns released a statement
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saying they did extensive research and and and too looking
at all this. Yet Tony Buzzby, the lawyer for the
defense for the accusers, said the Browns never contacted me,
and they probably should knowing what I know. So the
Browns are are getting some pushback from people from making
the move with the Shaun Watson's track record. Look, I
get it, all that stuff is uncomfortable. Welcome to the
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NFL and professional sports. There's a lot of guys with
a lot of stuff in their background, and yet teams
either still sign on for more years or still make moves.
It's it's just part of the deal. So we can
be upset about it, and people can try do comparisons,
and I love rich Orn Burger, and we can do
comparisons to a guy getting suspended for a year for gambling.
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You just you're gonna be here all day. It's it's
the way it works. Talent wins out. What did Jimmy
Johnson say. I had a guy fall asleep in a
meeting one time. I cut him immediately. But if it
was Troy Aikman, I'd wake him up and tell him,
you know, hey, man, we need you to pay attention.
It's so so I just we can. People can sit
here and get upset about it, but it's it's just
what it is. There's something in the civil suit information
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that could make it where the NFL has to do
something to discipline. Now, okay, if it goes to trial
and that public information comes to light, Yes, because that
public information becomes does that become factual or like, how
does that work? I guess that's going too deep into it.
I guess I'm because I'm just trying to understand it.
That's that's the reality of it. And we've talked about
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this all along. It doesn't matter whether it's it's factual
or not to the public. If the public perception is
they see something that was in a trial that they hear,
it doesn't matter if they feel like it's factual. If
it is factual, the public makes its own opinion off
whatever it feels like, making its opinion off whatever information
it gets. Right, That's how this works. And they're spin
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doctors who will spend it one way for the playiffs,
one way for the defendant. So that's the hard part
is you don't want any information getting out because once
that information gets out of the public, and if it's
if it's damaging towards DeShawn Watson. Yeah, there's a chance
that he gets suspended for this next year. That's one
of the reasons why his salary for this next year,
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if you saw it, is a million dollars because because
they know their biggest risk of him getting suspended. And
so if you make that a million dollars, guess how
much he hands up losing. Well, you do the math.
You know, if it used to be a lot of
easier with their sixteen games because you just say, you know,
eight games of sixteen, you can do the math on that.
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Now it's seventeen a little more difficult. But reality is this,
it's it's it's gonna be a little more a little
more easy to absorb that hit, knowing that it's only
gonna take away from a salary, not a signing bonus,
nothing else that he signed for. And Tony Buzzby the lawyer.
He he doesn't strike me as somebody who wants to
settle like he strikes me as somebody who wants to
continue moving forward with this. And uh now we get
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to wait to see, uh you know how it all
plays out. Here's the hard part is now you know
know how much money he's going to have, like the
Browns may have just up, yeah, man guaranteed and buzz okay,
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appreciate you doing so. We're gonna take you all the
way up until nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific
right here on fs ARE. Obviously n C a tournament
going on. We're having some fun looking at just some
of the awful picks that we've all made. We're also
discussing the Deshaun Watson situation. Well, I mean, look, some strong,
strong decisions on they didn't work out, but I made
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a strong decisions. But you had conviction. That's correct. That's yeah,
that's all that matters. Um. And then we've been talking
obviously about the Deshaun Watson trade, the big news for
for whatever reason, the NFL doesn't like this show or
doesn't like this time slot because they always want to
do big deals after we're off the air, those Rath bastards.
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I mean, come on, can we you guys, you guys
got enough stroke in the league. I mean, can you
make a couple of calls to him to drop some
news on our show. I wasn't that. I wasn't going
to bring this up, but I kind of blamed Jonas
because he always draws attention to it, which I think
makes the matter worse LaVar, But that that's just me again.
I don't mean to blame anyone to point the finger,
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but I will point. I just don't want to touch
any topics like this when it's referenced as you know,
a lot of stroke. You know, I just just stay
away from it, you know. Um, all right, well there's
uh yeah, there's a I mean, I have no I
have none of that with the NFL. You know, here's
the topic. Here's the great thing about the old the
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old topic tree and sports talk radio. You take a
topic and there are different branches off that topic. And
the branch that we are going to get into, get
onto now Baker Mayfield. That happens next with Baker Mayfield.
There's been reports that he wants the Indianapolis Colts to
be his next team. The Seattle Seahawks have reportedly made
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a run or have had conversations with Cleveland about Baker Mayfield.
You can bet on on Baker Mayfield's next team and
it is the Indianapolis culture or the favorite. Uh look,
I don't that's I've thought about that. What would be
that they could get that? I think it's difficult because
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the team is gonna have to want to absorb the
eighteen million dollars he's scheduled to make under his fifth
year option. So Cleveland's gonna want a draft pick in
return for Baker Mayfield because they're supplying a team what
most would say in the league as a potential franchise quarterback.
The problem is you've got to make a decision basically
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after this year, and that price tab tag is gonna
be really high, and it's gonna be high for a
number of reasons. One because he would be facing free agency.
So you have to use the franchise tag. And we've
talked about the implications of once you use it. Once,
the structure of any long term extension has to include
three years under the franchise tag because that's your recourse
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right if you want to keep that player. The only
thing you can do if they don't want to agree
to a long term deal is tag him, Tag him,
tag him, right, so it becomes an expensive venture, not
beyond just the eight team million're paying him this year.
It's the okay, well what do is if we think
this guy is the long term answer, Well, that's gonna
get pretty pricey for you. Then if you have to franchise,
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tag him depending on how he plays this year. So
that's that's one issue. The other issue is, I mean,
there's still some questions about what he is as a player.
It might be hard to find a team that's willing
to invest it sort of capital or take on that strategy.
If you don't feel like he's for sure the guy.
Then if the team who drafted him number one overall,
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who had him for four years doesn't believe he is,
is that gonna be telling you something. So there's a
chance that the Browns may just have to release him
and and he might They might have to eat some
of that eighteen million. I guess that. You know, they
could have a post June one designation I think in
this case, but I'm not I'm not even so sure
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they would be able to spread it over two years
because of how the fifth year option works. So the
bottom line is they may have to eat a portion
of what he's gonna be oh this year if they
can't find someone all right to get him some sort
of draft compensation in exchange. So it's kind of similar
to the brock Oswailer deal they took on brock Oswhitherers
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contract and exchange for a pick. The Browns wouldn't basically
have to do that. They would have to send someone
like a second third round pick and Baker Mayfield to
absorb that eighteen million dollars they're trying to take off
their books. Does that make sense? Let me ask you this,
if they if they have to be if they if
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they're in a position where they have to release them,
then he has to clear waivers, right and if that
means he has the clear waivers, then that changes the
entirety of this where it changes the entirety of this
conversation because now it's not even about if he goes
to one of these teams we're talking about. It's about
what team claims him awful waivers, correct, and then what
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if they claim them offul waivers? Then what do they have.
They subject to that cont so they would be subject
to the fifth year option. So they'd be the same
situation with this contract. The differences they would they would
get the first crack depending on who it ends up being. Um,
the draft with our centuries is the model they'd follow, Right,
So Jacksonville, we'll get the first crack. They'd say, no,
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we've got Trevor Lawrence. Then it then it goes to Detroit,
and Detroit might say, yeah, we're willing to kick the
tires on them, but they've got Jeered Goff. And I
don't know that that's an upgrade bringing Baker Mayfield over
Jared Goff, is it? I don't think so. I don't
think so. So so okay, So then once he clears waivers,
If he clears waivers, then now you just start a scratch.
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He has no leverage. It is just you gotta negotiate that.
Now does he have to he can negotiate a new
deal as a veteran. It doesn't come in as as
a rookie deal, even though it's the fifth year of
his rookie deal, correct, right, Okay, So, so likelihood is
that he would get released based on just what would
be that you don't know that it's the likelihood, because
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if you believe that he is is in a position
where he could potentially become a franchise quarterback for you,
if you're gonna invest in in a former number one
draft pick that lost his job to one of the
hottest players I mean when he was playing and potentially
still one of the hottest players in the National Football League,
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I mean, yeah, you you do take pause because they
allowed him to leave, but you did upgrade your position.
And and just because he's not as good as Deshaun
Watson doesn't mean he can't be good enough for for
your team and your organization. I mean, we learned that
all the time about some of that. I mean, Washington
just did this with with Carson Wentz and this is
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his third team. I mean, so to me, I mean
Baker Mayfield, if you feel like you're a team that
can benefit from Baker Mayfield, then you don't let him
get into a situation where you turn it into a
bidding war, right. I mean I would assume you just
go go after him and get it and get it done.
If you feel that way about him. If he goes
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to me, if he gets released. That says to me
that that people don't think very highly of him if
he gets released. That's what that says to me. But
that says me. And there's rumors that you know, there's
articles coming out with and this. I hate, I do
hate doing this because you know, it's what people report
on and there's unnamed sources you know, say this and that,
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and you know, Mike Florio goes off on Pro Football
Talk about, you know, a player of the antics based
on how the reports come out. But the outside opinion,
at least what everything is being reported is there's people
who feel like he's immature, there's people who feel like
he needs to be humbled, there's all these things. Maybe
that is him getting released and then signed to a
new deal. Even if that's the case, though, I still
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feel like there's value here, Like I would love to
see him end up in New Orleans if that's how
this whole thing is gonna play out, even whether New
Orleans or another place that's got some talent around him,
because I think he'll end up making some people regret it.
I do. I watched this kid enough in college, and
maybe I'm biased for that reason, but I think He's
got enough in his game that if he goes to
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an organization that's got some more stability. I just I
think he's gonna make some teams regret the decision of
passing on it if that plays out. What do you
think if a team like Indianapolis or New Orleans comes
to the Browns with with a draft, is it anything
anything second round or or greater? You do the deal?
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You don't You don't think, well, no, no no, it does
the deal. But I don't think they offer that because
in the position now where they everyone knows what they're
gonna do. And so some of it's about Baker Mayfield.
So it's about the fact that, you know, Cleveland kind
of put it all out there. You know, they really
uh you know, they put it all out there. They
kind of got risque, you know, to to kind of
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get to Shawn Watson. Like they made sure everyone knew
that they wanted day Shawn. You know what I'm saying,
Like they wanted they make sure that they everyone knew
they wanted day Shawn. And now now you've got them
in a situation where like Baker's just sitting out there,
he's just you know, bowling in the wind. Yeah, he's exposed.
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M hm. And so at this point, you know, what,
what what what else can they do other than cut him?
So you're only gonna offer maybe a fourth fifth round
pick after you just gave up three, Slappy, after you
just gave up three first round picks. Yeah, well they
look they're gonna try and want to get get a
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pick back. I'm sure after the way this whole thing, right, yeah,
I just Indianapolis is the favorite right now, these are odds.
According to a Fox bet, Indianapolis is the favorite. That
you mentioned New Orleans, they're the of the top four,
they're the biggest long shot. It goes to Indianapolis, Seattle, Carolina,
and New Orleans. Its basically all the teams that were,
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you know, poking around, uh you know, a couple of
them that were poking around at Deshaun Watson who didn't
end up getting Deshaun Watson. Now they would, you know,
possibly turn over to Baker Mayfield. I just Indianapolis would
be a lot of fun. Like Indianapolis to me, feels
like they've got the running game, They've got enough pieces
around him. New Orleans is the same thing. But it
just if you could get Baker Mayfield to Indianapolis on
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knowing every everybody looking at him right now in the
league is saying, you got ousted, there's problems there, You're
not mature enough, this, this, and this. I'm with Brady.
I think he's gonna have word of the day, a
red ass and something to prove next season. And I
would you really believe that they take on this fifth year,
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this fifth year paycheck and then Phil as though they
have to invest in him again or release him and
have another quarterback yet another another time compromising position. You
know why, I'll say yes, it is because that money
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we're talking about is kind of viewed as almost backup
money now, like a really good backup. What did case
Keenom get signed to come in and play? It was
it for Cleveland or for this stop before that? Oh jeez,
I forget. But if you go if you go through
some of these like veteran backup contracts where a guy's
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getting ten mill maybe a little more than that, like
Mariota got nine with the Raiders, eight or nine million
a year with the Raiding, I think about that. You're
basically getting an expensive back up, but he's gonna be
starting for you. Or a really economical starter for your team,
Like I think Seattle is one that could make a
lot of sense. They're not in the same conference, they
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need to do something at that position. But in Baker
Mayfield and Drew lock of the same team, that would
be a really interesting dynamic between those two. Um, I
just I look at that and I got up. It's
a perfect fit for John Schnyder's personality, a very different
from how Russell Wilson was. And I think that's maybe
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some of the concern for any team that's gonna trade
for him is you're getting him on this like red
ass one year deal and he's looking and he's looking
to make up for what Cleveland did to him. Like
that's the problem about it, is he's gonna look up
to get the contract that he wants that it's not
going to equate that Deshaun Watson's I don't know who's
gonna break that next. Let me ask you guys this,
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do you think had they not already made the move
and signed a quarterback, do you think Pittsburgh would have
kicked the tires on Baker Mayfield in the in the division.
I'm telling you, Baker Mayfield in Pittsburgh twice a year.
Come on, LaVar, that's why you take That's why you
take less in draft compensation instead of if you can
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you control where he goes as opposed to just releasing him.
Would you rather have Baker Mayfield rather than Mitched your business?
I'll take Mayfield? Yeah, I got I think I would
say to say, I think I would say the same.
I'd rather have Baker Mayfield than Mitch. So there you go, man,
that would be sorry, you know, that would be so
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much fun if Baker Mayfield in in Pittsburgh. I mean,
Eddie Garcia jumping for joy thinking of the the idea
of Baker Pittsburgh. Now, I don't know if they got that,
that that rich you know bottom Now, I don't know
that that red ass. I don't know that they would
retired Bubby Bristers. Hey, would they retired Bubby Bristers number
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six and give it to Baker Mayfield? Do you think
I think they could figure it out? Yeah? Flubs they
a pool flubs his number out of there. Okay, we
called him Flubby back in the day. Flubby Brister why
because he would mess up games for us. Man, I'm
just telling me, I'm giving I'm giving you the fan perspective.
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That's when I was what yeah with with the denver
Brook Bernie Kozar has gotta gotta ring is a back
and we're happy to see him go. Okay, right there,
it is the gold he got his ring. Let's go
to the news deeps what here's Brady Quick. Yeah, Old
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Santa Barbara, California. Where a Chick fil A county quote
unquote public nuisance? Yeah, that's right. Um, the city council
actually had to do a study because traffic has gotten
so bad. It's so backed up that basically this one lane,
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this one lane for the drive through that block driveway.
It's a drive in lane. Yeah, it blocks it for
up the ninety minutes on weekdays. That's how busy and
successful this Chicka fil A is. But they're now trying
to figure out a solution. But they're calling it a
public nuisance. Uh, people got to eat. I mean we
see that way, We see that way in and out
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a lot too. Though their lines are long, they're ethically
it's crazy to where you like, people are like, it's
no longer you can get through a drive through it
at in and out fast. It's no longer in and out.
It's you get they have to take your order at
the car like five or ten down the way, like
a Chick fil at is on that now too, and
they do it with two lanes and merge you in
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the one. So I mean there's there's a couple of
Chick fil a, uh and and out they're doing they're
they're they're doing real good. They're doing some real good business.
Might have to drop a dime on them. Let me
tell you something that, well, I don't like that, all right,
you want you want to fix the traffic issues and
Santa Barbara, why don't you fix the freeway to get
that figured out? I just I went to Santa Barbara
about a month ago, and it took way longer than
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it should have based on you know, the inability to
get the freeways fixed in time is kind of like
that too, Like there's always road construction, Like what is
there not? I don't know, I don't know. What a
tough tough world, you guys. Back across the country where
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a man was crushed at death by a bulldozer while
using the porta potty. Oh no, yeah, that is unfortunate
that they say he left family behind. Was he married
to the kids. There is no details about the individual
that was crushed. The only thing they could say is
he was working obviously, I guess as a spotter at
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this particular site. Um and again the person operating the bulldozer.
It was on landfill. They had no idea the porta
potty was there. And clearly this wasn't you know, man,
it wasn't meant to happen. It was an accident. However, well,
I was using the porter potty. Yeah, he had to
be inside and the rest of him cut it up.
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I mean, was unbelievable. If that's the eulogy that I
have to deliver. He was a good man and he
went out doing what he enjoyed doing like that. That
would be horrible. Didn't Elvis die in the toilet? I
already didn't die yet, So I don't know that's true
talking about that's true, same one I didn't I did.
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I'm not. First of all, he went Michevski earlier, just
played a toilet flushing alright, like that's that's the classiest
thing that's ever been done here. I just don't understand
how you don't see a porter potty from a bulldozer
I mean that one, just that one. Just I'm I'm
a little bit, you know, kind of missed the fat boy,
that one that kind of bumps me out actually like
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a little I don't know how that works. Now, how
do you not see the porter pot But look, we've
got a plenty of time right now, we have plenty
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open up a factory in this point. When's the last
time you guys used a porta potty? Uh, I'll say
this much. I mean for number one, I don't know,
but never number two. Yeah, never number two. I believe
it's gotta been a couple of years back it's gotta
been a few years. I remember it too, because it
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was just really just just just had to happen. What
do you mean, I just had to just I mean
it was either that or a soda bottle or like
a gameade bottle. Ah,
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in the n c A Tournament. We're gonna get to
But there was some craziness that went down on Friday
because apparently UH reports were indicating that the Cleveland Browns
were being told that they were no longer in the
Deshaun Watson sweep Steaks and then UH wilay million dollars
guaranteed a five year deal and the trade is done,
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and now Deshaun Watson is a a brand new quarterback
for the Cleveland Browns. How bad it? Huh? How about
it that the Deshaun Watson ride? Things changed quickly from
uh from our conversation Friday, Lapard Jonas and I were
just talking about the disappointment Browns fans butt's feel. It's
not only did they not get DeShawn Watson, they don't
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get Baker Mayfield because they made him upset. But now
we look at a scenario where they come back around
and they do get Watson. Mayfield is, you know, going
to be eventually moved on from I guess my question
is just what what changed in your mind? What changed
in your mind as to how the Browns got back
into the picture after initially being told they were out.
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They were one of the two teams along with Carolina.
What did the Browns do differently? Or maybe it's not
what the Browns did, Maybe it's what Baker Mayfield did. Maybe,
I mean, I I just think it came down to
the money. I mean, he you know, he said he
didn't want to play for for the Texans for reasons.
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I guess he wasn't included in the the search for
a new head coach when that took place, And and
I rubbed him the wrong way if I recall correctly.
And if that's the case, then I would say, you're
not going to You're not going to any of these
teams with the idea that you're going to the super
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Bowl immediately. But for some strange reason, the moment he
signed with Cleveland, people started thinking that Cleveland now is,
you know, should be in the hunt to go to
the super Bowl. I'm not I'm not certain that you
know that's what it is. I mean, they definitely have
made some good moves and free agency to improve their team,
to upgrade their team, and not the position most necessary
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to to win. But I just think it came down
the money. I mean, I think that they put uh
an amount of money on the table for for Watson,
that it was an offer you just couldn't say no to,
and and and that probably may have been you know,
Baker Mayfield could have played a large part in that
because you were going to basically lose him because he
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didn't want to play for them anymore. So that could
have been a situation where he sits out whatever it
may be. But yeah, I mean I think that all
things given were the reason why the Cleveland Browns jumped
into their bag of tricks and pulled out a whole
lot of uh um scratch for for you know, Deshaun Watson.
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I had to be real careful. I was using my
terminology there because we know what Deshaun Watson situation is.
You got to use different terminology in the right. But
you landed it, you know, you did land the man.
I didn't see the red button, let's see. So Mary
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Kay Cabot, who has been pretty spot on with this
whole thing, covering the story on the Baker Mayfield side
from Cleveland dot Com. But despite what Baker Mayfield has said,
uh she reported that Baker Mayfield was ready to sit
out the season, that he was not going to play
for them after this stuff was leaked out, that they
were meeting with Deshaun Watson and that that may have
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led to the Browns, you know, contacting Deshaun Watson again
and probably sweetening the pod like like that. That would
be the assumption. I'm just surprised because we've I mean,
Kirk Cousins is the only other quarterback that's gotten a
fully guaranteed contract, right, I mean is that I think
he's the only other guy, right? So, so are you
surprised that the guy who set the market from a
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guaranteed contract standpoint is the same guy who's been out
for over a year and is dealing with twenty two
different lawsuits, first criminally and now from the civil side.
Uh and all the other chaos that comes along with it.
I just didn't think DeShawn Watson was going to be
the guy in his situation that was going to set
the market. That's a surprise to me. Well, I think
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all over the league you're seeing quarterbacks look to capitalize
on resetting the market at that position. And we can
get into Matt Stafford, even Aaron Rodgers obviously, who came
to this agreement before the Watson trade and contract. But
what you're seeing now is basically everyone saying, you know,
I want to leap frog what Mahomes did. And Mahomes
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was somewhere in the ballpark of forty five mill per
year UM. A lot of them are jumping north of that.
Rogers now fifty million per year average annual salary. So
that was one of the goals. But the crazy thing
is the commitment that the Browns made to him two
million fully guaranteed, which is unheard of. It's the most
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amount of guaranteed money in a contract ever in the
National Football League, and it's the most by wide margin.
The last fully guaranteed deal that was even close to that,
all right, or I shouldn't say fully guaranteed, but the
last portion of a contract guaranteed that that extent was
the hundred fifty million dollars that we saw with Roger's contract,
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which is a short term deal, but still it's eighty
million dollars more than that. Like, take it to the bank.
If I want to walk into any big bank around
this country, I go, I'm gonna make two dred thirty
million dollars. Can I get a loan for fifty million? Yep,
Snap of the fingers, You've got it. It is guaranteed. Now,
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they might not for this reason, all those all that
money goes away if he slips up on some k
y or something. If all of it goes away the
second he has an issue off of this, I can't.
But if he slips up and those you know, he
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he falls onto the player of conduct policy, it would
avoid out those guarantees. So this is where as much
as it looks like on on the surface as a
huge guarantee and a big play by Cleveland. They're kind
of sitting back, like, well, the onus is really on
de Shawn if he wants to actually make the money
that's within this contract and for us to honor our
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end of the deal, he's got to honor his end
of the deal, and he's got to kick whatever habit
he's developed. That would equate to twenty two civil lawsuits,
twenty two separate people who are suing him for what
the hell is happening off the field. And so then
there's that end of it. But I do think Baker
Mayfield played a role, whereas maybe if Baker and that's
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that's not his personality. And by the way, I don't
know many quarterbacks that would like that it come to
you and say, hey, we're gonna look and look for
someone better than you, but don't just stay at home.
Keep everything good for us here at We're gonna come
back later on. But I don't know many p An
quarterbacks would be like, I'm okay with this. I'm not
gonna want to trade. I don't want to go elsewhere.
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First over, I'll pick of the draft, but let me
be let me be your doormat while you're trying to
figure out whether you can sign somebody else. Are you
gonna be home in time for dinner? Are you gonna
be home with time for dinner? Unbelievable. Let me ask
you guys a question, because I don't I really don't know.
So I'm I'm seeing if you guys do in terms
of with the civil lawsuits, because that's becoming a point
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of of conversation in terms of, you know, how to
move forward. I saw what Richie Richie Hornberger had to
say about it um in terms of, you know, the
gambling being a one year suspension and DeShawn Watson getting
you know, awarded a a largest contract in the history
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of the game. Just just hit me with this one.
Is there anything that the civil suits can do that
would force the NFL's hand on on suspending him or
disciplining him or is he cleared at this point in
terms of any culpability that would be kind of lobbed
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his way or justified in terms of you know, I
guess punishment. Yeah, you know what I mean, there can
still be a trial. I mean, this could still end
up being public knowledge when it's all said and done.
The difference between obviously, you know, criminal and civil is
you know, once the criminal charges are dropped and dropped,
that doesn't mean that they can't reservice or come back
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around or be trialed again or brought up again. But
it seems highly unlikely in a civil case. You know,
this could still go to trial now that the burden
of proved is much lower, which is why usually the
defendant or Deshaun Watson in this case, is going to
look to settle and then now, I mean, look, with
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this contract and everything else, the trades occur, and civil
lawsuits can take forever. I mean literally, they can drag
on on forever years and he might just end up
settling and then having them son an NDA just to
move past it. At this point, if you're just saw
Watson as much as he wants to clear his name
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and say, oh, I want to be able to speak
on it and speak my side of the story, Dude,
you got to a new team, you got your contract,
you got everything else. Why would you want to potentially
poke the bear and have something else come from all this?
I would just I would just be really surprised if
there's not a settlement soon, considering the new contract he
just got. Uh and some of that. Those money's he's
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definitely gonna need, given what that settlement may look like.
I mean some of the details on the sworn Affidavid's
from the from the accusers, I mean it is it's
I mean, you can't even you can't even retell them
on the air. It's really uncomfort It's it's bad and
so used to some of that. I just I've all
thought that the entire time, how much more of this
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is going to come out? Because those those are available,
you can find those online and look through them yourself.
It's it's perfect word, it's really uncomfortable. And then I
also just look at the situation and I go when
people are talking about the Cleveland Browns, because the Browns
are getting some heat, You've got people out there saying, well,
I won't root for the Browns. Ever, again, I can't
believe they made this decision. The Browns released a statement
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saying they did extensive research and and and too looking
at all this. Yet Tony Buzzby, the lawyer for the
defense for the accusers, said the Browns never contacted me,
and they probably should knowing what I know. So the
Browns are are getting some pushback from people from making
the move with the Shaun Watson's track record. Look, I
get it, all that stuff is uncomfortable. Welcome to the
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NFL and professional sports. There's a lot of guys with
a lot of stuff in their background, and yet teams
either still sign on for more years or still make moves.
It's it's just part of the deal. So we can
be upset about it, and people can try do comparisons,
and I love rich Orn Burger, and we can do
comparisons to a guy getting suspended for a year for gambling.
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You just you're gonna be here all day. It's it's
the way it works. Talent wins out. What did Jimmy
Johnson say. I had a guy fall asleep in a
meeting one time. I cut him immediately. But if it
was Troy Aikman, I'd wake him up and tell him,
you know, hey, man, we need you to pay attention.
It's so so I just we can. People can sit
here and get upset about it, but it's it's just
what it is. There's something in the civil suit information
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that could make it where the NFL has to do
something to discipline. Now, okay, if it goes to trial
and that public information comes to light, Yes, because that
public information becomes does that become factual or like, how
does that work? I guess that's going too deep into it.
I guess I'm because I'm just trying to understand it.
That's that's the reality of it. And we've talked about
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this all along. It doesn't matter whether it's it's factual
or not to the public. If the public perception is
they see something that was in a trial that they hear,
it doesn't matter if they feel like it's factual. If
it is factual, the public makes its own opinion off
whatever it feels like, making its opinion off whatever information
it gets. Right, That's how this works. And they're spin
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doctors who will spend it one way for the playiffs,
one way for the defendant. So that's the hard part
is you don't want any information getting out because once
that information gets out of the public, and if it's
if it's damaging towards DeShawn Watson. Yeah, there's a chance
that he gets suspended for this next year. That's one
of the reasons why his salary for this next year,
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if you saw it, is a million dollars because because
they know their biggest risk of him getting suspended. And
so if you make that a million dollars, guess how
much he hands up losing. Well, you do the math.
You know, if it used to be a lot of
easier with their sixteen games because you just say, you know,
eight games of sixteen, you can do the math on that.
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Now it's seventeen a little more difficult. But reality is this,
it's it's it's gonna be a little more a little
more easy to absorb that hit, knowing that it's only
gonna take away from a salary, not a signing bonus,
nothing else that he signed for. And Tony Buzzby the lawyer.
He he doesn't strike me as somebody who wants to
settle like he strikes me as somebody who wants to
continue moving forward with this. And uh now we get
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to wait to see, uh you know how it all
plays out. Here's the hard part is now you know
know how much money he's going to have, like the
Browns may have just up, yeah, man guaranteed and buzz okay,
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right here on fs ARE. Obviously n C a tournament
going on. We're having some fun looking at just some
of the awful picks that we've all made. We're also
discussing the Deshaun Watson situation. Well, I mean, look, some strong,
strong decisions on they didn't work out, but I made
(15:26):
a strong decisions. But you had conviction. That's correct. That's yeah,
that's all that matters. Um. And then we've been talking
obviously about the Deshaun Watson trade, the big news for
for whatever reason, the NFL doesn't like this show or
doesn't like this time slot because they always want to
do big deals after we're off the air, those Rath bastards.
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I mean, come on, can we you guys, you guys
got enough stroke in the league. I mean, can you
make a couple of calls to him to drop some
news on our show. I wasn't that. I wasn't going
to bring this up, but I kind of blamed Jonas
because he always draws attention to it, which I think
makes the matter worse LaVar, But that that's just me again.
I don't mean to blame anyone to point the finger,
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but I will point. I just don't want to touch
any topics like this when it's referenced as you know,
a lot of stroke. You know, I just just stay
away from it, you know. Um, all right, well there's
uh yeah, there's a I mean, I have no I
have none of that with the NFL. You know, here's
the topic. Here's the great thing about the old the
(16:33):
old topic tree and sports talk radio. You take a
topic and there are different branches off that topic. And
the branch that we are going to get into, get
onto now Baker Mayfield. That happens next with Baker Mayfield.
There's been reports that he wants the Indianapolis Colts to
be his next team. The Seattle Seahawks have reportedly made
(16:55):
a run or have had conversations with Cleveland about Baker Mayfield.
You can bet on on Baker Mayfield's next team and
it is the Indianapolis culture or the favorite. Uh look,
I don't that's I've thought about that. What would be
that they could get that? I think it's difficult because
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the team is gonna have to want to absorb the
eighteen million dollars he's scheduled to make under his fifth
year option. So Cleveland's gonna want a draft pick in
return for Baker Mayfield because they're supplying a team what
most would say in the league as a potential franchise quarterback.
The problem is you've got to make a decision basically
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after this year, and that price tab tag is gonna
be really high, and it's gonna be high for a
number of reasons. One because he would be facing free agency.
So you have to use the franchise tag. And we've
talked about the implications of once you use it. Once,
the structure of any long term extension has to include
three years under the franchise tag because that's your recourse
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right if you want to keep that player. The only
thing you can do if they don't want to agree
to a long term deal is tag him, Tag him,
tag him, right, so it becomes an expensive venture, not
beyond just the eight team million're paying him this year.
It's the okay, well what do is if we think
this guy is the long term answer, Well, that's gonna
get pretty pricey for you. Then if you have to franchise,
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tag him depending on how he plays this year. So
that's that's one issue. The other issue is, I mean,
there's still some questions about what he is as a player.
It might be hard to find a team that's willing
to invest it sort of capital or take on that strategy.
If you don't feel like he's for sure the guy.
Then if the team who drafted him number one overall,
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who had him for four years doesn't believe he is,
is that gonna be telling you something. So there's a
chance that the Browns may just have to release him
and and he might They might have to eat some
of that eighteen million. I guess that. You know, they
could have a post June one designation I think in
this case, but I'm not I'm not even so sure
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they would be able to spread it over two years
because of how the fifth year option works. So the
bottom line is they may have to eat a portion
of what he's gonna be oh this year if they
can't find someone all right to get him some sort
of draft compensation in exchange. So it's kind of similar
to the brock Oswailer deal they took on brock Oswhitherers
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contract and exchange for a pick. The Browns wouldn't basically
have to do that. They would have to send someone
like a second third round pick and Baker Mayfield to
absorb that eighteen million dollars they're trying to take off
their books. Does that make sense? Let me ask you this,
if they if they have to be if they if
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they're in a position where they have to release them,
then he has to clear waivers, right and if that
means he has the clear waivers, then that changes the
entirety of this where it changes the entirety of this
conversation because now it's not even about if he goes
to one of these teams we're talking about. It's about
what team claims him awful waivers, correct, and then what
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if they claim them offul waivers? Then what do they have.
They subject to that cont so they would be subject
to the fifth year option. So they'd be the same
situation with this contract. The differences they would they would
get the first crack depending on who it ends up being. Um,
the draft with our centuries is the model they'd follow, Right,
So Jacksonville, we'll get the first crack. They'd say, no,
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we've got Trevor Lawrence. Then it then it goes to Detroit,
and Detroit might say, yeah, we're willing to kick the
tires on them, but they've got Jeered Goff. And I
don't know that that's an upgrade bringing Baker Mayfield over
Jared Goff, is it? I don't think so. I don't
think so. So so okay, So then once he clears waivers,
If he clears waivers, then now you just start a scratch.
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He has no leverage. It is just you gotta negotiate that.
Now does he have to he can negotiate a new
deal as a veteran. It doesn't come in as as
a rookie deal, even though it's the fifth year of
his rookie deal, correct, right, Okay, So, so likelihood is
that he would get released based on just what would
be that you don't know that it's the likelihood, because
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if you believe that he is is in a position
where he could potentially become a franchise quarterback for you,
if you're gonna invest in in a former number one
draft pick that lost his job to one of the
hottest players I mean when he was playing and potentially
still one of the hottest players in the National Football League,
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I mean, yeah, you you do take pause because they
allowed him to leave, but you did upgrade your position.
And and just because he's not as good as Deshaun
Watson doesn't mean he can't be good enough for for
your team and your organization. I mean, we learned that
all the time about some of that. I mean, Washington
just did this with with Carson Wentz and this is
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his third team. I mean, so to me, I mean
Baker Mayfield, if you feel like you're a team that
can benefit from Baker Mayfield, then you don't let him
get into a situation where you turn it into a
bidding war, right. I mean I would assume you just
go go after him and get it and get it done.
If you feel that way about him. If he goes
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to me, if he gets released. That says to me
that that people don't think very highly of him if
he gets released. That's what that says to me. But
that says me. And there's rumors that you know, there's
articles coming out with and this. I hate, I do
hate doing this because you know, it's what people report
on and there's unnamed sources you know, say this and that,
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and you know, Mike Florio goes off on Pro Football
Talk about, you know, a player of the antics based
on how the reports come out. But the outside opinion,
at least what everything is being reported is there's people
who feel like he's immature, there's people who feel like
he needs to be humbled, there's all these things. Maybe
that is him getting released and then signed to a
new deal. Even if that's the case, though, I still
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feel like there's value here, Like I would love to
see him end up in New Orleans if that's how
this whole thing is gonna play out, even whether New
Orleans or another place that's got some talent around him,
because I think he'll end up making some people regret it.
I do. I watched this kid enough in college, and
maybe I'm biased for that reason, but I think He's
got enough in his game that if he goes to
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an organization that's got some more stability. I just I
think he's gonna make some teams regret the decision of
passing on it if that plays out. What do you
think if a team like Indianapolis or New Orleans comes
to the Browns with with a draft, is it anything
anything second round or or greater? You do the deal?
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You don't You don't think, well, no, no no, it does
the deal. But I don't think they offer that because
in the position now where they everyone knows what they're
gonna do. And so some of it's about Baker Mayfield.
So it's about the fact that, you know, Cleveland kind
of put it all out there. You know, they really
uh you know, they put it all out there. They
kind of got risque, you know, to to kind of
(24:11):
get to Shawn Watson. Like they made sure everyone knew
that they wanted day Shawn. You know what I'm saying,
Like they wanted they make sure that they everyone knew
they wanted day Shawn. And now now you've got them
in a situation where like Baker's just sitting out there,
he's just you know, bowling in the wind. Yeah, he's exposed.
(24:35):
M hm. And so at this point, you know, what,
what what what else can they do other than cut him?
So you're only gonna offer maybe a fourth fifth round
pick after you just gave up three, Slappy, after you
just gave up three first round picks. Yeah, well they
look they're gonna try and want to get get a
(24:56):
pick back. I'm sure after the way this whole thing, right, yeah,
I just Indianapolis is the favorite right now, these are odds.
According to a Fox bet, Indianapolis is the favorite. That
you mentioned New Orleans, they're the of the top four,
they're the biggest long shot. It goes to Indianapolis, Seattle, Carolina,
and New Orleans. Its basically all the teams that were,
(25:17):
you know, poking around, uh you know, a couple of
them that were poking around at Deshaun Watson who didn't
end up getting Deshaun Watson. Now they would, you know,
possibly turn over to Baker Mayfield. I just Indianapolis would
be a lot of fun. Like Indianapolis to me, feels
like they've got the running game, They've got enough pieces
around him. New Orleans is the same thing. But it
just if you could get Baker Mayfield to Indianapolis on
(25:39):
knowing every everybody looking at him right now in the
league is saying, you got ousted, there's problems there, You're
not mature enough, this, this, and this. I'm with Brady.
I think he's gonna have word of the day, a
red ass and something to prove next season. And I
would you really believe that they take on this fifth year,
(26:01):
this fifth year paycheck and then Phil as though they
have to invest in him again or release him and
have another quarterback yet another another time compromising position. You
know why, I'll say yes, it is because that money
(26:22):
we're talking about is kind of viewed as almost backup
money now, like a really good backup. What did case
Keenom get signed to come in and play? It was
it for Cleveland or for this stop before that? Oh jeez,
I forget. But if you go if you go through
some of these like veteran backup contracts where a guy's
(26:42):
getting ten mill maybe a little more than that, like
Mariota got nine with the Raiders, eight or nine million
a year with the Raiding, I think about that. You're
basically getting an expensive back up, but he's gonna be
starting for you. Or a really economical starter for your team,
Like I think Seattle is one that could make a
lot of sense. They're not in the same conference, they
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need to do something at that position. But in Baker
Mayfield and Drew lock of the same team, that would
be a really interesting dynamic between those two. Um, I
just I look at that and I got up. It's
a perfect fit for John Schnyder's personality, a very different
from how Russell Wilson was. And I think that's maybe
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some of the concern for any team that's gonna trade
for him is you're getting him on this like red
ass one year deal and he's looking and he's looking
to make up for what Cleveland did to him. Like
that's the problem about it, is he's gonna look up
to get the contract that he wants that it's not
going to equate that Deshaun Watson's I don't know who's
gonna break that next. Let me ask you guys this,
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do you think had they not already made the move
and signed a quarterback, do you think Pittsburgh would have
kicked the tires on Baker Mayfield in the in the division.
I'm telling you, Baker Mayfield in Pittsburgh twice a year.
Come on, LaVar, that's why you take That's why you
take less in draft compensation instead of if you can
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you control where he goes as opposed to just releasing him.
Would you rather have Baker Mayfield rather than Mitched your business?
I'll take Mayfield? Yeah, I got I think I would
say to say, I think I would say the same.
I'd rather have Baker Mayfield than Mitch. So there you go, man,
that would be sorry, you know, that would be so
(28:32):
much fun if Baker Mayfield in in Pittsburgh. I mean,
Eddie Garcia jumping for joy thinking of the the idea
of Baker Pittsburgh. Now, I don't know if they got that,
that that rich you know bottom Now, I don't know
that that red ass. I don't know that they would
retired Bubby Bristers. Hey, would they retired Bubby Bristers number
(28:54):
six and give it to Baker Mayfield? Do you think
I think they could figure it out? Yeah? Flubs they
a pool flubs his number out of there. Okay, we
called him Flubby back in the day. Flubby Brister why
because he would mess up games for us. Man, I'm
just telling me, I'm giving I'm giving you the fan perspective.
(29:15):
That's when I was what yeah with with the denver
Brook Bernie Kozar has gotta gotta ring is a back
and we're happy to see him go. Okay, right there,
it is the gold he got his ring. Let's go
to the news deeps what here's Brady Quick. Yeah, Old
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Santa Barbara, California. Where a Chick fil A county quote
unquote public nuisance? Yeah, that's right. Um, the city council
actually had to do a study because traffic has gotten
so bad. It's so backed up that basically this one lane,
(30:01):
this one lane for the drive through that block driveway.
It's a drive in lane. Yeah, it blocks it for
up the ninety minutes on weekdays. That's how busy and
successful this Chicka fil A is. But they're now trying
to figure out a solution. But they're calling it a
public nuisance. Uh, people got to eat. I mean we
see that way, We see that way in and out
(30:22):
a lot too. Though their lines are long, they're ethically
it's crazy to where you like, people are like, it's
no longer you can get through a drive through it
at in and out fast. It's no longer in and out.
It's you get they have to take your order at
the car like five or ten down the way, like
a Chick fil at is on that now too, and
they do it with two lanes and merge you in
(30:44):
the one. So I mean there's there's a couple of
Chick fil a, uh and and out they're doing they're
they're they're doing real good. They're doing some real good business.
Might have to drop a dime on them. Let me
tell you something that, well, I don't like that, all right,
you want you want to fix the traffic issues and
Santa Barbara, why don't you fix the freeway to get
that figured out? I just I went to Santa Barbara
about a month ago, and it took way longer than
(31:06):
it should have based on you know, the inability to
get the freeways fixed in time is kind of like
that too, Like there's always road construction, Like what is
there not? I don't know, I don't know. What a
tough tough world, you guys. Back across the country where
(31:27):
a man was crushed at death by a bulldozer while
using the porta potty. Oh no, yeah, that is unfortunate
that they say he left family behind. Was he married
to the kids. There is no details about the individual
that was crushed. The only thing they could say is
he was working obviously, I guess as a spotter at
(31:50):
this particular site. Um and again the person operating the bulldozer.
It was on landfill. They had no idea the porta
potty was there. And clearly this wasn't you know, man,
it wasn't meant to happen. It was an accident. However, well,
I was using the porter potty. Yeah, he had to
be inside and the rest of him cut it up.
(32:16):
I mean, was unbelievable. If that's the eulogy that I
have to deliver. He was a good man and he
went out doing what he enjoyed doing like that. That
would be horrible. Didn't Elvis die in the toilet? I
already didn't die yet, So I don't know that's true
talking about that's true, same one I didn't I did.
(32:42):
I'm not. First of all, he went Michevski earlier, just
played a toilet flushing alright, like that's that's the classiest
thing that's ever been done here. I just don't understand
how you don't see a porter potty from a bulldozer
I mean that one, just that one. Just I'm I'm
a little bit, you know, kind of missed the fat boy,
that one that kind of bumps me out actually like
(33:04):
a little I don't know how that works. Now, how
do you not see the porter pot But look, we've
got a plenty of time right now, we have plenty
of time. Yeah. Well, I'm just you know, it is
like any I mean, well, like look, I mean, if
you want to look good and you know, speaking of
being able to see things brighton, I'm glad you brought
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storm to show today a lot of really Yeah yeah,
(33:48):
open up a factory in this point. When's the last
time you guys used a porta potty? Uh, I'll say
this much. I mean for number one, I don't know,
but never number two. Yeah, never number two. I believe
it's gotta been a couple of years back it's gotta
been a few years. I remember it too, because it
(34:10):
was just really just just just had to happen. What
do you mean, I just had to just I mean
it was either that or a soda bottle or like
a gameade bottle. Ah,
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