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Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington wonder why fans are dancing on Coach K’s grave after Duke’s loss to North Carolina in the Final Four. The latest allegations against Dan Snyder might be the final nail in his coffin or he might be truly untouchable. Plus, a recap of WrestleMania and hot takes on Tiger Woods leading up to The Masters.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox. Coming up on this
Monday edition the end of an era in college basketball.
Coach k is finished or is he? We will discuss
whether or not Mike Sachevski will be making a return
for Duke or should he. We're also going to get
into a preview of tonight's matchup between Kansas and North
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Carolina Rock Chalk Jayhawker to the Tar Heels continue their
Cinderella run. We're gonna talk about a potential thief in
the NFL, a retirement of a future Hall of Famer,
a potential trade in the works in the NFC, and
is Colin Kaepernick officially back? Plus the FSR I R
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Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. How we feeling on a Monday,
on a a busy weekend in the world of sports
and beyond a No, Brady's got thoughts on WrestleMania. We're
gonna get too later on just a wild weekend, disrespect
one of the great events in sports and entertainment like that?
Come on, of course, you know is this weekend? I
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didn't man Vince McMahon. Yeah, he got him good, he
stunned him. Yeah, it was both nights. It was a
to night extravagant ENDZ. Yeah. Well listen, I mean it's
some events are so great they can't be contained in
one night. And uh and to this, uh, this expanded
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over uh into the West Sunday as well. Um, all right,
so there are there's a dream scenario, a dream, there's
a there's a a dream ending that I think a
lot of people were looking forward to. Uh, you know,
I mean you think about it in all your wildest imagination,
how you would like a perfect ending, and then there's
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a nightmare ending. And it's a type of nightmare. We're
not only do you wake up terrified, but you're also
in a puddle of your own urine when you when
you rise from your sleep. And uh, I feel like
Mike Sachowski might be letting in a puddle of his
own urine. Still based on how that ended on the weekend,
that's the such a weird way of describing it. It's
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the worst possible ending to his career. Horrible ending, no
doubt about it. But man, waking up in your own
I I disagree. A worse ending would have been getting
knocked out like Kentucky was earlier in the Brackett and
that that would have been the oh okay, you're going
out like that. I know it's bad because he lost
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to their you know, arch rival, and they did so
to end the regular season. Now it ends there their postseason,
if you will, to Dreams in the final for the
only time these two teams, he's met them in the
final four. Uh, that hurts. It's gotta be tough to
deal with that. I just don't understand the hate for
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coach Ka. I don't get it. Am I missing something? Like?
Have I been? Have I overlooked the amount of hate
that people have for Duke. I mean, he just seems
like a nice grandpa. Like he seems like a good
coach who gives good advice, and he could be stern
at times, but he's like a nice grandpa and people
are bearing the guy, like the people are so happy
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to see Duke lose. And the way it ends for
coach Cannibal, I don't get it. You guys coach for
what forty two years and they're trying to like really
bury him alive. I don't get it. But look, I'm
sure there's a sour taste this mouth, but it very
rarely ends well for anyone, even coach k who arguably
is one of the greatest basketball coaches you know of
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all time was the college level. You know, people hate
on greatness is what it is. And Sasowski has been
great for a long time. And I just gotta put
this out there to you, Brady. It's culturally the reason
why so many people have hated Duke and have hated
Mike Sewski because it represents like, if I'm being honest
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with you, the man represents the man like that elitest. Yeah. Yeah,
and and everyone through the years, at least just the
way I was kind of, you know, kind of Swede
growing up, which I mean I was okay with it
because of the people that I was cheering for. I
like the always like the other team better. And it
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if you ever noticed in history, it was always the
other team because it was always Dupe that they were
matching up with. And I just think that it is
just an underdog story. And I think yesterday for the
first time for me, I found myself chairing for for
Sasowsky like I'm not I'm not crazy familiar with all
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of the players on Duke. Uh. I thought they played
a well of a game. Um. I thought I thought
that they had every opportunity to win the game. And
I was like, you know what, because it's his last season,
I was just pulling for him to see him make
it to to the to the final four. Like I
think in your later days, I think you become more
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of a grandpa, like you said, more of a lovable figure.
I don't think he was always that lovable figure throughout history.
I think he was a super intense competitor, and I
just think that people people didn't like the fact that
he won the way that he did. Culturally speaking, I
would say from my angle, I think there's more hated
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coaches though in college basketball history. I mean, yeah, Bob Knight,
right right or wrong, I think it would stoke the
flames of the fire for many people, whether you were
a Bob Knight fan or not. Like he's just you know,
like I just say, what if you want? I mean,
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I know, you know this year when he lectured a
kid from Oregon this year, because I don't know if
he's talking trash or whatever he was saying, but I mean,
at this point in life, like that's what he is.
He's he's on his way out, and I think he's
still instilling lessons and things for all of him. But
I can see that because it seems like the thirty
for thirty they did on Christian anything around Duke, you
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do get this sense that you know, everyone kind of
looks at Duke as this elitist, this this small private
school in North Carolina that where they just feel like
they're better than you. And here's the hard part. It's like,
I don't know, man, it's a great education. You've gotta
be really smart to go there. It's pretty sweet. Like
I'm not saying they're they're they're better, but their test
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scores might be and they seem like they're a lot smarter.
Like there's there's there's something to like Duke the basketball
for everything is that Like I'm okay with that and
off like you would have viewed them as the villain,
so be it. But the reality is is he's not
a bad guy. Like people are just absolutely dancing on
his grave with the way this whole thing ended. If
you think about it, just super quick, my bad, Joe's
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but but if you think about it, it's okay to
get better test scores than me. You know, it's like
the reverse, right, It's like, oh, LaVar, you're such a
great football player. You tackle so great. You you can
intercept the ball. It's great when when I'm catching the
ball and you know I can run fast and tackle people.
It isn't great when I can you know, the ledger
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of the company or be the CEO of the company.
It's like, hold on, my kid looks up to you
because you're a good football player, not because you could
do the job that I do. So it's like the reverse, right,
It's like, hold on, man, Cherokee parks man, you look
like you're gonna balance my check, Like you're gonna do
my taxes for me. Wait, hold on, Christian Latener, you
look like you're going to represent me in the court
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of law. Like let's go like like Latener and Lightner,
like you know what I mean. Like, it's okay if
you guys look that way and make make get good
test scores and and and you're great in school. I
do great. It's a problem when you're beating Larry Johnson,
it's a it's a problem when you're beating Stacy Augment.
It's a it's a problem when you're beating because because
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they're showing you they can do it all. Like it's
that part of the issue that's correct. That's correct. I
like is envy, Like you wish you could be in
their shoes, Well, you don't wish you could be in
their shoes. You just wish that they weren't as good
as you at what you're good at. But that's kind
of like it's like this human nature. I don't want
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you to be as good as me if you don't
look like me. It's like, man, I see, I see
you know this guy over here, I see Larry Johnson,
and I know Larry Johnson can jump out at the gym.
I know I'm gonna have my hands full with Larry
Johnson's like, oh, that's two. That's goons going at It's
like Christian Lakenary and Larry Johnson like what it's like.
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So it's it shocks and it shocks your system. It's like,
how are these dudes this good? And why are they
always Bobby Hurley? Why is Bobby Hurley? Why is Wojanowski
Wold Wold Wold your house? Well, how are they doing it?
How are you doing it? I don't like you because
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I don't like you. That's why I can't make it
in the real world. Can you at least let us
have can you? Can we have we have basketball fleet?
Can we have it? Here was here was coach k
talking about this time at DUCA after the loss on Saturday.
I've been blessed to be in the arena. And when
you're in the arena, you're either gonna come out feeling
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great or are you gonna feel agony? But you always
will feel great about being in the arena. And I'm
sure that that's the thing when I'll look back that
I'll miss. I won't be in the arena anymore. But Dan,
I was in the arena for a long time and
these kids, you know, made my last time in the
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arena an amazing one. And it's a bummer. Now he
needs to come back for another year. You can't go
at yeah, you can't. You can't go out like that.
And I understand you don't get to pick oftentimes how
how you end things. But I feel like him looking
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at this going I'm gonna have to wear two losses
like that to North Carolina my final home game and
my final game period. Look, he can make it through
another season, you know, you know, give Shire some some
more responsibilities, you know, do like a half and half thing,
and then uh, and then have coach k come back
and to he loses next year in the round of
thirty two or in the sweet sixteen, as long as
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it's not not to North Carolina. I feel like that's
a better way to end things. There's a lot of
truth to what he said. I mean, there is something
about like that you miss when you're done playing sports.
It's just about being in it. I mean, as and
as much as and I feel like the gambling world
can relate to this. As much as you love winning,
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there also is that feeling of defeat where there's nothing
like the next morning waking up after defeat, whether you're
getting you got your ass kicked, and all the soreness
that you feel, you're going like, I need to like
work this out of my system. I gotta fix it.
I gotta do better. I gotta I gotta be better.
And and you it's that motivation for the next day,
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the next game, the next chance, an opportunity you have,
you know, or like that waking up the next day
after you win and and none of those bumps and
bruises hurt quite as bad. Like there's nothing like the
feeling of knowing that you've got the opportunity to compete,
to go in the arena, to do something that you love.
I think the hard thing for coach k is, you know,
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I mean when you're a coach, a lot of it's
out of your hands. I mean, think about the immense
amount of pressure that the young men who are playing
for coach k are under knowing that like that's how
he's gonna be remembering they in large part of everything
everything to do about it. I mean, they won the
regular season right for the a c C this year,
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but they didn't win the a CEC tournament. They ended
up losing, you know that the regular season finale to
u n C. They lose in the final four to
u n C. The hard party and all seriousness, you know,
as we joke about if he wanted to come back
for another year, is if he was to come back,
I mean, are they gonna get to another Final four?
There's no guarantee and and you know, I think it's
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not the worst way for it to play out, But
to sit there and say, like, oh, they're gonna come,
I mean, I don't know. Ben Cheryl is probably gonna
be a top two pick in the draft. I would
think I actually i'd take him over Chad Holme Grin.
I think he's the best player in the draft. And
so you're gonna lose him. You gonna lose a number
of players to the draft this year. I just I
don't know if he wants to start over again, even
though I believe they've got a really good recruiting class
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for next season. But I mean again, he's not going
to and they go through this whole you know, goodbye
tour again. You know, at seventies seven years old, Ben,
it was a good game. He coached it well, they
played well. They had a couple you know, in those
types of games, you have a couple of mishaps, you
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miss some free throws that could you know, put the
game in a different situation. You you make a couple
of different plays here or there, and it makes all
the difference. They were there. If they had gotten blown out,
if they had lost differently, then I would say that
was the worst loss. But in in some regard, in
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some type of way, it's almost fitting, in fashion of
someone as great as Mike Shoski has been as a
coach and what he has represented to sports, to not
go out to someone lesser than I mean you, I
hate to say it, but if if I'm gonna go out,
let me go out on on my shield. And I
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went out against one of the most historical franchises in
college sports, and and they're right down the road, and
and it's a rivalry, and and to me that almost
restores some of the mystique and the prestige of what
college sports truly represents. So I was kind of on
the I wanted him to win, but I was still
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kind of on the other side of it, like, if
I'm gonna go out, let me go out to the best.
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or in stores. Hey, sticks, Uh, what's up with your guy?
Dan Snyder? You an old Danny boy. Yeah, I'm just
I'm just wondered because it's a little little little little Danny.
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It is uh, there there is a why why is
this no so runny? Is there? Um? Now there is
no there is a there's a report from A J.
Perez of Front Office Sports that says, uh, Congress is
exploring whether Dan Snyder with held payments to the visiting
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team pool, which is uh, where a ticket snail? Do
you have to give ticket sales and revenue that you
bring in for games? It doesn't all just go into
your pocket. You gotta divvy it out. Um, And uh,
he's supposed to give it back to the visiting team
and all that, and um, and Dan Snyder apparently may
not have given uh, you know, his portion and his share.
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Is this Is this a moment to to pile on
or is it a moment for me to just just
have a moment, you know, like I don't like this
wouldn't be the first time he didn't pay somebody. What
are you getting at? I mean, there there you go,
Like there's the punch line. If LaVar is involved in
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this conversation. You want to know what the punch line is? Hey, hey, government,
hey government, go look at LaVar Arrington's contract and and
and look at when he redid his deal and restructured
his deal to help a team and literally less than
what thirteen hours time to help the team get under
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the cap, and there was a bonus missing, and and
it basically ruined my career like that, It basically derailed.
Everything that transpired after that moment was total chaos, turbulence,
you name it. It would not be the first time
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that something of the business manner that just needed to
be taken care of, because that's what it was, was
not handled by Dan Snyder. So this doesn't surprise me.
For all these years. It's funny, for all these years
people thought that I got cut from the Washington football team.
Back then, they thought I got cut. But what happened
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was there was a six million dollars like six point
five if I recall correctly, there was a six point
five million dollars bonus that was was not in the
contract and all they needed to do was go back
over it and put it in, and it would have
took my earning average back to where it was supposed
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to be. Without that average, it dramatically dropped my my
earning average from what it was to to something it was.
It was something crazy. I was. I was very cutible
at that point in time. Put it to you like that,
and it was just it. I realized in that moment,
because I had nothing to do with it. You know,
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contracts like your your agents like come to you. What
numbers are you thinking? Like? These numbers make sense to me.
I want to get to hear like, Okay, here's what
we're gonna do, here's how we're going to structure, and
here's that do okay great Um. I literally had to
get a a police I jumped in a police car
and they turned the lights on for me to get
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from Ashburn, Virginia, to to green Belt, green Belt, Maryland,
to the team hotel and time enough for meetings. That's
how long the negotiations and and going through it and
signing everything took place. There were there were missed pages
that weren't signed. There was there was just a couple
of things. There were some you know, clerical errors that
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were a part of the contract signing, and and was like,
you know, let them handle it, let them handle it,
and and then then then lo and behold fast forward.
You know, everything that happened and transpired after that, I
paid my way out. I gave two point five million
dollars back and bonus money to get out. I said,
I'd never worked for Dance Night or Another Day in
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my life because that's just not the type of person
that I would want to work for. I'll go into
a different profession. I'll leave football together before I work
another another day for for a person like that. And
it doesn't surprise me. And you hear Alex Smith, you know,
he outed them talking about the dysfunction of the organization.
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And you know, someone who was drafted as the number
one overall pick in with the San Francisco forty Niners,
he went through some of the difficulties with that organization.
But I don't know that anyone would confuse the two.
Is the forty Niners being a bad organization. They've had
the rough spots, uh with with Jed York as their
owner or operating as their owner. But you know, really,
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when you look at the history of the forty Niners,
they're one of the more storied franchises. He goes to
Kansas City, you know, he he makes them a legitimate
playoff team every single year he was there, and then
he goes to watching It's like, yeah, this place has
some issues. They've got some skeletons in the closet. Uh,
they don't. There's no wonder that it just so happens
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to coincide with when Dan Snyder took over the team,
they've struggled to have any consistent success. Here's the crazy
thing thing, though, because they've been to the playoffs like
what four or five times, I think since five times,
they've obviously have won the division. Granted that recently, which
that was at a crappy year. But still, you know,
if you look at the Washington Commandos whatever we're gonna
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call him football team whatever they were before that, as
as like bad, as as dysfunctional as they are, like
they've at least been to the playoffs, they've at least
won their division. There's some teams that have a really
hard time saying that over the past two decades. And
that's the crazy thing when we hear these offseason storylines.
Is as bad as it must be able to be
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a Washington Commandos fan, you still look at some of
these other organizations you're like, they've even had less success. Listen,
they've been serious. They've been better than the Giants the
last five six years, not even close. I mean the
Jags the Lions. Of course you want to throw in there,
I'm gonna ask you a serious question. Line, here's a
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serious question. So if it comes to be that he
is basically stealing um money from from other owners, just
ticket revenue that is supposed to be portioned out that
he you know, may not have done. Uh, there's a
thought that this could be it that that now he's
burnt the final bridge, which is the bridge to other
owners that have that have had his back throughout all
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this stuff. But but if this, if this isn't it
all right? And and they don't find enough there to
be able to take the team away. Honest question, what
is it gonna take for this guy to lose his
football team? I mean at this point, like why what
else is there? It sounds terrible to respond in this way,
but that's the whole point. That's how this thing is
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set up. You know, these men didn't set this whole
league up in order for it to be taken away
from him like the snap of a finger. It's gonna
take a knockdown, drag out fight, and they're gonna do
everything they can to hold onto one of the thirty
two most prize possessions in the world, let alone our country.
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So that's the reality of it is. As as much
as everyone in the outside looks at this and we're like, dude,
this guy needs to go, there's still a point where
all these owners, and as much as they want to
point fingers or be frustrated or even with this, Like
even as I look at this and I say, look,
there's three things that would always create fights in a
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locker room. Okay, uh, religion, women, and money. And in
the case of the Washington Commandos, they got their hitting
two of the three. And I don't know if there's
some religious issues going on there too, but I'm just
saying that's the reality is. We we know about all
of the stuff in regards to the cheerleaders and some
of the employees. Now it's getting the point where all
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right now he's holding back taking revenue from his partners.
The other owners, like these guys, eventure're gonna be like, yeah, dude,
you're on island, like like, save yourself. You're Tom hankson castaway.
Figure out figure out how you're getting off the island,
because we're not helping you anymore. But as much as
they want to say that, they might be turned around
going Oh, man, I got some skeletons in my clue.
You've done it too. Yeah, like like maybe I don't
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want to be so harsh, or maybe I don't want to,
you know, isolate Dan little Danny boy, because if I do,
he go, we could have a problem. And that's the
problem something man, that's the well I mean look at
it like this. It's not that he has something that
no one else has. Like, like Brady just said, there's
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probably the strong possibility that if if Dan goes down
for some of the things that are going to take
him down, he may start singing I'm gonna go down.
He has shown he's petty, I'm gonna go down, swinging
like I'm gonna take grooting out with me. I'm I'm
gonna take uh Alan out. Was the fall guy. Oh
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there's like, hey, look over here, look at look at
John Crude. Don't look at me. There certainly are more
within the organization that we're abruptly. When I say abruptly,
they were abruptly removed from that building. You know that, Uh,
you know that Jerry Jones has a lot of influence.
I wonder if it gets to the point where Dan
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Snyder feels like he's threatened and his team may go
by and by if he calls Jerry Jones and just says, hey, buddy,
you know that little situation you got going on with
that daughter. You don't want to claim that's twenty five
years old. There's more behind door number two. You want
to keep this up. He's got to have something on somebody.
I just don't get what what else could be checked
off the list because you mentioned it, Uh, you know, money, women, religion, race,
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three of the four, three of the four he has
checked off the list. I just I don't know at
what point, Roger Goodell, what do you mean race? As
far as a team name, well, there's that, Yeah, there's that.
He felt like because that was something that he inherited anyway,
right like it wasn't he was pretty was he was.
He was guns a blazing. I remember when I got
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the call a game out in Arizona, and I remember,
you know that was starting to become I think it
was in four team maybe team something like that, and
it was there was more pressure building on them to
change the name. I mean eight years ago almost, and uh,
I remember there was there was he was actually in
a box in Arizona right there on the road. He
was in a box with another like chief from a
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different tribe, and they were he was there on on
in like support of Dan Snyder. At least that's how
they wanted it to appear. And so we had showed
them on the broadcast and you could kind of see
them talking and it was like it was one of
those deals where it was already controversial back then, and
he was doing everything he could have positioned himself to
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not have to, you know, face the pushback for what
their team name was and what it should be. And
that was some of the things he'd set up. I mean,
he's been trying to manipulate this whole thing for a
long long time. It's crazy when you think about it.
I'll tell you what's crazy. Go look at all of
the companies that Dan Snyder has owned and look at
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where they're at currently. That's what's crazy. Go look like
from six Flags to to rid Zebra too, whatever it
is else that he's ever owned, like since since we've
known him, since he's become of relevance because he owns
he owns the Washington team. Look at all of the
ventures he's done and check out what they're doing. Well,
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I just Google searched red zebra instead of not twenty
one years of age. I can't click. Apparently, is this
like a club? Is this like an establishment? Can I
get your password? Zebra? Yeah? I think that was funny. Yeah,
it's kind of funny. I mean I thought yours was
much funnier than the truth. Do you know? By the
way I'm looking at it, there's like actual Is that
(28:39):
an actually? Now that's on a real zebra? And never mind?
All right, it is two pros and a cup of
joe here fix actually real real? Yeah, just look at
stuff up here. It's it's it's it's bizarre. What By
the way, what is the zebra? They just spray paint
a horse? Is that what it is? Say? They say,
because the zebra's nose is black, the rest of their
body is black, So they're actually black with white ripes.
(29:00):
Is from what I hear? I mean, Roberto, don't know
how true that is? Mean, Roberto, we're gonna let this
pass on a Monday. We're just gonna let this stuff lie.
Bear a brown bear, a grizzly bear. You know they
have they have black slacks. I don't know, this is
like a Santa Claus conversation that was like the who
you ask Santa Claus doesn't look the same, you know.
(29:23):
I thinks the same thing as the orchard with the zebra.
It's like, Oh, everyone's got their own interpretation, which is
the stripes and much harm. But I'm telling you that
I've never told you all. I got one of my
boy's house and I was like, oh, Santa looks different
over here. I didn't think about that before I was
I was like twelve years old. I was liken't. I
didn't really think about like how people have different perspective
(29:46):
on what Santa Claus. I was like, Santa could be different.
That's kind of a zebra. Two pros and a cup
of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio, the Riz Zebra
really is a strip club. I mean it sounded like it. Yeah,
it's a good good spot there. Yeah. And Mattawan New
Jersey Sports Bar and Lounge. Yeah it's yeah. I just
(30:12):
randomly popped up, do we lose LaVar for the rest
of the same Yeah, well have LaVar? I got off?
I got off. I got off. I would use it.
I would use different terminology. Oh I removed that buddy,
that might be the funniest fall into a horrible statement
(30:34):
that I've ever made in my entire existence. It happens
when you bring up a little Danny Boys a sudden
you start falling into different things. That's what's happening around.
I swiped and got the page down off of my phone. Yeah,
there we go. There it is. It is too Pros
(30:56):
and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Raining. I could
be so hard to try to. I removed myself from
a page. That's all right, listen, Uh there's uh, well,
we'll just leave it there, all right. Coming up next,
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our executive producer Lee. Do you guys, I doubt any
of you miss it, But in case you did miss it,
there was WrestleMania this weekend. I missed it. I definitely
missed it. Well, there were uh a few celebrity sightings.
We saw Johnny Knoxville, Pat McAfee, Logan, Paul, all of
(33:04):
whom won their matches. Yeah, how about that three? And oh, um, Brady,
you you should be proud. I'll say a lot of
people give Logan and Jake Paul crap and they think
they're annoying the great entertainer. Legitimate athletes like Logan Paul
is fantastic, like he unbelievable. Um, and so you know,
I just an Ohio guy. You know I thought you
(33:25):
should be yeah both Ohio. Yeah, yeah, Well it looked
as far as w w egos between Logan, Paul, Mike
the miss He's from Parma, Ohio. Another Ohio guys. We've
got some We've got some strong candidates of guys who
have ventured off into the world of entertainment. You know,
the miss came from what reality TV and TV and
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then segued into that he's made a career for himself.
And Logan Paul kind of started more from the social
media platform doing that. But both those guys. But again,
I have no idea what the hell happened on WrestleMania,
because I'm not a geek, and I think three Bruno
sam Martino used to jog around my uh my elementary
(34:07):
school when you were all in God every day and
we'd be like every single day. It was like the
first time, like there's Bruno sam Martino. There's Bruno sam Martino.
And you know what, I've been a wrestling fan ever since. Bro.
I can't whether it makes me a dork or nerd
or I don't know, but I've always enjoyed it. I
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did not watch it in its entirety, but I did
see um bits and pieces of it, and and you know,
and of course, you know, it was in Dallas, and
and you know, obviously I hadn't behind the scenes look
at everything that was going on on MICA's Instagram as well,
so it looked like it was very nice. By the way, Uh,
(34:50):
pretty insulting comments from Brady Quinn, a guy who was
seen on SmackDown on Fox wearing a Legion of Doom
shirt sitting in the front row with Matt Leinart. Real
talk from Brady Quinn there, Huh, bullying the wrestling world
like that. I'm just saying it's not for me. If
you want to watch you know, scripted cord d stuff, cool,
so be it. I mean, I'm just saying you're the
(35:12):
one that bets on this stuff. By the way, I
lost I lost one. I lost once this weekend betting
on WrestleMania. Alright, So so who's that you had to
lay a lot? Because you know, it's pretty obvious who
was going to win a lot of these. But you
know what, that's that's not the point. I you know,
I made a little bit of coin betting on Wrestlemans.
Did you actually make it? When it was all said that,
(35:32):
did you actually make a profit? Because you claim you
win bets, but the way you bet, the juice is
so high you're you're usually never gonna win enough, especially
if you lose one of those. I ended up winning
about I think I think it's like two dollars and change.
But you know it's not bad. But well, yeah, but
considering that that penny and this is this is public site, right,
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so you gotta pay taxes on those. Well listen, I
mean we're joking around obviously, you know we're doing this
for Yeah, listen that. I mean, look and trust me,
it'll all be gone too, and it'll all be gone
because you know, I'm a lot to thank you, just
like the final four? How many how many understood? I mean, listen,
(36:20):
I told you, I told you in a dome shooting
was gonna be off the chart, and uh, you know,
you know what wasn't a problem shooting? Oh my god,
By the way, I Kansas didn't miss the entire game,
the entire game. At what point the announcer was like,
oh my god, they're shooting the lights out the next
(36:42):
thing going off? Of course it is I The thing is,
I wasn't really I'm not only one who thinks that
way or or looks at it that way. But Jonas
convinced me Friday, he convinced me this was gonna be
the case. So I had my neighbor stopped over. I
was like, yeah, I don't know, you know, I talked
to him about it. I go. We talked about on radio.
(37:03):
I got you know, Dome. It could be tough shooting,
you know Kansas. You know the Villetas want to get
off to a you know, fast start trying to go
shot for shot with them. Maybe they try to slow
it down. That was not the case either. Thank god
he didn't lay their bed um what you guys. Tiger
Wood says he's going to be a game time decision
for the Masters. This week's bad controversy being spotted with
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foot Joy shoes on practice round this week. Nike responded
partly with a statement saying, as he continues his return,
we will work with with Tiger to meet his new needs.
By the way, his foot joy is that the Rex
Ryant company is that is that his shoe company? Just
pretty funny. Heyduce flash, they're they're a golf shoe company.
Let me tell you this. They're better. They're they're better
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shoes than Nike. I'm just saying they are. Oh my god,
Hey mc q is going hard. He is. I'm just
calling go bro. You would say, okay, all right? Like
not obviously, Rex Robin. When will we stop talking about Tiger?
(38:09):
We when is that traumatic comeback this leg. I don't
want him to lose anything, just us lose talking about him.
That's it. It's we talking about. Yes, what are we
talking about him for? He's gonna play in the Masters
(38:30):
after damn near dying. Oh my gosh, well let me
listen now. So basically, so, so here's what we sulted
about the prodcast. Why do we always talk? Why is
he still a headline? I don't. I just don't get
it because of that picture that surfaced of him years ago, LaVar,
(38:50):
is that one picture? What you're talking? Why don't you
always know about someone's k I do always know? I
thought everybody knew about that. There's a wong with you.
You always you always know. There's a crotch shot of
some dude. It's the weirdest thing. Guys, guys walking around
with a thermis on his bell buckle, and I gotta
like pay attention, like it's not there. Okay, fair enough,
we'll go survive when we don't have Tiger Woods headlines.
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took out the w W E and Nike and LaVar.
LaVar just kneecapped Tiger Woods. Literally, I mean, come on.
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on a a busy weekend in the world of sports
and beyond a No, Brady's got thoughts on WrestleMania. We're
gonna get too later on just a wild weekend, disrespect
one of the great events in sports and entertainment like that?
Come on, of course, you know is this weekend? I
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didn't man Vince McMahon. Yeah, he got him good, he
stunned him. Yeah, it was both nights. It was a
to night extravagant ENDZ. Yeah. Well listen, I mean it's
some events are so great they can't be contained in
one night. And uh and to this, uh, this expanded
(02:09):
over uh into the West Sunday as well. Um, all right,
so there are there's a dream scenario, a dream, there's
a there's a a dream ending that I think a
lot of people were looking forward to. Uh, you know,
I mean you think about it in all your wildest imagination,
how you would like a perfect ending, and then there's
(02:30):
a nightmare ending. And it's a type of nightmare. We're
not only do you wake up terrified, but you're also
in a puddle of your own urine when you when
you rise from your sleep. And uh, I feel like
Mike Sachowski might be letting in a puddle of his
own urine. Still based on how that ended on the weekend,
that's the such a weird way of describing it. It's
(02:51):
the worst possible ending to his career. Horrible ending, no
doubt about it. But man, waking up in your own
I I disagree. A worse ending would have been getting
knocked out like Kentucky was earlier in the Brackett and
that that would have been the oh okay, you're going
out like that. I know it's bad because he lost
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to their you know, arch rival, and they did so
to end the regular season. Now it ends there their postseason,
if you will, to Dreams in the final for the
only time these two teams, he's met them in the
final four. Uh, that hurts. It's gotta be tough to
deal with that. I just don't understand the hate for
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coach Ka. I don't get it. Am I missing something? Like?
Have I been? Have I overlooked the amount of hate
that people have for Duke. I mean, he just seems
like a nice grandpa. Like he seems like a good
coach who gives good advice, and he could be stern
at times, but he's like a nice grandpa and people
are bearing the guy, like the people are so happy
(03:57):
to see Duke lose. And the way it ends for
coach Cannibal, I don't get it. You guys coach for
what forty two years and they're trying to like really
bury him alive. I don't get it. But look, I'm
sure there's a sour taste this mouth, but it very
rarely ends well for anyone, even coach k who arguably
is one of the greatest basketball coaches you know of
(04:20):
all time was the college level. You know, people hate
on greatness is what it is. And Sasowski has been
great for a long time. And I just gotta put
this out there to you, Brady. It's culturally the reason
why so many people have hated Duke and have hated
Mike Sewski because it represents like, if I'm being honest
(04:44):
with you, the man represents the man like that elitest. Yeah. Yeah,
and and everyone through the years, at least just the
way I was kind of, you know, kind of Swede
growing up, which I mean I was okay with it
because of the people that I was cheering for. I
like the always like the other team better. And it
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if you ever noticed in history, it was always the
other team because it was always Dupe that they were
matching up with. And I just think that it is
just an underdog story. And I think yesterday for the
first time for me, I found myself chairing for for
Sasowsky like I'm not I'm not crazy familiar with all
(05:29):
of the players on Duke. Uh. I thought they played
a well of a game. Um. I thought I thought
that they had every opportunity to win the game. And
I was like, you know what, because it's his last season,
I was just pulling for him to see him make
it to to the to the final four. Like I
think in your later days, I think you become more
(05:51):
of a grandpa, like you said, more of a lovable figure.
I don't think he was always that lovable figure throughout history.
I think he was a super intense competitor, and I
just think that people people didn't like the fact that
he won the way that he did. Culturally speaking, I
would say from my angle, I think there's more hated
(06:12):
coaches though in college basketball history. I mean, yeah, Bob Knight,
right right or wrong, I think it would stoke the
flames of the fire for many people, whether you were
a Bob Knight fan or not. Like he's just you know,
like I just say, what if you want? I mean,
(06:34):
I know, you know this year when he lectured a
kid from Oregon this year, because I don't know if
he's talking trash or whatever he was saying, but I mean,
at this point in life, like that's what he is.
He's he's on his way out, and I think he's
still instilling lessons and things for all of him. But
I can see that because it seems like the thirty
for thirty they did on Christian anything around Duke, you
(06:56):
do get this sense that you know, everyone kind of
looks at Duke as this elitist, this this small private
school in North Carolina that where they just feel like
they're better than you. And here's the hard part. It's like,
I don't know, man, it's a great education. You've gotta
be really smart to go there. It's pretty sweet. Like
I'm not saying they're they're they're better, but their test
(07:17):
scores might be and they seem like they're a lot smarter.
Like there's there's there's something to like Duke the basketball
for everything is that Like I'm okay with that and
off like you would have viewed them as the villain,
so be it. But the reality is is he's not
a bad guy. Like people are just absolutely dancing on
his grave with the way this whole thing ended. If
you think about it, just super quick, my bad, Joe's
(07:38):
but but if you think about it, it's okay to
get better test scores than me. You know, it's like
the reverse, right, It's like, oh, LaVar, you're such a
great football player. You tackle so great. You you can
intercept the ball. It's great when when I'm catching the
ball and you know I can run fast and tackle people.
It isn't great when I can you know, the ledger
(08:02):
of the company or be the CEO of the company.
It's like, hold on, my kid looks up to you
because you're a good football player, not because you could
do the job that I do. So it's like the reverse, right,
It's like, hold on, man, Cherokee parks man, you look
like you're gonna balance my check, Like you're gonna do
my taxes for me. Wait, hold on, Christian Latener, you
look like you're going to represent me in the court
(08:23):
of law. Like let's go like like Latener and Lightner,
like you know what I mean. Like, it's okay if
you guys look that way and make make get good
test scores and and and you're great in school. I
do great. It's a problem when you're beating Larry Johnson,
it's a it's a problem when you're beating Stacy Augment.
It's a it's a problem when you're beating because because
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they're showing you they can do it all. Like it's
that part of the issue that's correct. That's correct. I
like is envy, Like you wish you could be in
their shoes, Well, you don't wish you could be in
their shoes. You just wish that they weren't as good
as you at what you're good at. But that's kind
of like it's like this human nature. I don't want
(09:06):
you to be as good as me if you don't
look like me. It's like, man, I see, I see
you know this guy over here, I see Larry Johnson,
and I know Larry Johnson can jump out at the gym.
I know I'm gonna have my hands full with Larry
Johnson's like, oh, that's two. That's goons going at It's
like Christian Lakenary and Larry Johnson like what it's like.
(09:26):
So it's it shocks and it shocks your system. It's like,
how are these dudes this good? And why are they
always Bobby Hurley? Why is Bobby Hurley? Why is Wojanowski
Wold Wold Wold your house? Well, how are they doing it?
How are you doing it? I don't like you because
(09:48):
I don't like you. That's why I can't make it
in the real world. Can you at least let us
have can you? Can we have we have basketball fleet?
Can we have it? Here was here was coach k
talking about this time at DUCA after the loss on Saturday.
I've been blessed to be in the arena. And when
you're in the arena, you're either gonna come out feeling
(10:11):
great or are you gonna feel agony? But you always
will feel great about being in the arena. And I'm
sure that that's the thing when I'll look back that
I'll miss. I won't be in the arena anymore. But Dan,
I was in the arena for a long time and
these kids, you know, made my last time in the
(10:32):
arena an amazing one. And it's a bummer. Now he
needs to come back for another year. You can't go
at yeah, you can't. You can't go out like that.
And I understand you don't get to pick oftentimes how
how you end things. But I feel like him looking
(10:53):
at this going I'm gonna have to wear two losses
like that to North Carolina my final home game and
my final game period. Look, he can make it through
another season, you know, you know, give Shire some some
more responsibilities, you know, do like a half and half thing,
and then uh, and then have coach k come back
and to he loses next year in the round of
thirty two or in the sweet sixteen, as long as
(11:15):
it's not not to North Carolina. I feel like that's
a better way to end things. There's a lot of
truth to what he said. I mean, there is something
about like that you miss when you're done playing sports.
It's just about being in it. I mean, as and
as much as and I feel like the gambling world
can relate to this. As much as you love winning,
(11:35):
there also is that feeling of defeat where there's nothing
like the next morning waking up after defeat, whether you're
getting you got your ass kicked, and all the soreness
that you feel, you're going like, I need to like
work this out of my system. I gotta fix it.
I gotta do better. I gotta I gotta be better.
And and you it's that motivation for the next day,
(11:55):
the next game, the next chance, an opportunity you have,
you know, or like that waking up the next day
after you win and and none of those bumps and
bruises hurt quite as bad. Like there's nothing like the
feeling of knowing that you've got the opportunity to compete,
to go in the arena, to do something that you love.
I think the hard thing for coach k is, you know,
(12:16):
I mean when you're a coach, a lot of it's
out of your hands. I mean, think about the immense
amount of pressure that the young men who are playing
for coach k are under knowing that like that's how
he's gonna be remembering they in large part of everything
everything to do about it. I mean, they won the
regular season right for the a c C this year,
(12:37):
but they didn't win the a CEC tournament. They ended
up losing, you know that the regular season finale to
u n C. They lose in the final four to
u n C. The hard party and all seriousness, you know,
as we joke about if he wanted to come back
for another year, is if he was to come back,
I mean, are they gonna get to another Final four?
There's no guarantee and and you know, I think it's
(13:00):
not the worst way for it to play out, But
to sit there and say, like, oh, they're gonna come,
I mean, I don't know. Ben Cheryl is probably gonna
be a top two pick in the draft. I would
think I actually i'd take him over Chad Holme Grin.
I think he's the best player in the draft. And
so you're gonna lose him. You gonna lose a number
of players to the draft this year. I just I
don't know if he wants to start over again, even
though I believe they've got a really good recruiting class
(13:21):
for next season. But I mean again, he's not going
to and they go through this whole you know, goodbye
tour again. You know, at seventies seven years old, Ben,
it was a good game. He coached it well, they
played well. They had a couple you know, in those
types of games, you have a couple of mishaps, you
(13:42):
miss some free throws that could you know, put the
game in a different situation. You you make a couple
of different plays here or there, and it makes all
the difference. They were there. If they had gotten blown out,
if they had lost differently, then I would say that
was the worst loss. But in in some regard, in
(14:04):
some type of way, it's almost fitting, in fashion of
someone as great as Mike Shoski has been as a
coach and what he has represented to sports, to not
go out to someone lesser than I mean you, I
hate to say it, but if if I'm gonna go out,
let me go out on on my shield. And I
(14:27):
went out against one of the most historical franchises in
college sports, and and they're right down the road, and
and it's a rivalry, and and to me that almost
restores some of the mystique and the prestige of what
college sports truly represents. So I was kind of on
the I wanted him to win, but I was still
(14:48):
kind of on the other side of it, like, if
I'm gonna go out, let me go out to the best.
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exploring whether Dan Snyder with held payments to the visiting
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team pool, which is uh, where a ticket snail? Do
you have to give ticket sales and revenue that you
bring in for games? It doesn't all just go into
your pocket. You gotta divvy it out. Um, And uh,
he's supposed to give it back to the visiting team
and all that, and um, and Dan Snyder apparently may
not have given uh, you know, his portion and his share.
(17:23):
Is this Is this a moment to to pile on
or is it a moment for me to just just
have a moment, you know, like I don't like this
wouldn't be the first time he didn't pay somebody. What
are you getting at? I mean, there there you go,
Like there's the punch line. If LaVar is involved in
(17:44):
this conversation. You want to know what the punch line is? Hey, hey, government,
hey government, go look at LaVar Arrington's contract and and
and look at when he redid his deal and restructured
his deal to help a team and literally less than
what thirteen hours time to help the team get under
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the cap, and there was a bonus missing, and and
it basically ruined my career like that, It basically derailed.
Everything that transpired after that moment was total chaos, turbulence,
you name it. It would not be the first time
(18:29):
that something of the business manner that just needed to
be taken care of, because that's what it was, was
not handled by Dan Snyder. So this doesn't surprise me.
For all these years. It's funny, for all these years
people thought that I got cut from the Washington football team.
Back then, they thought I got cut. But what happened
(18:51):
was there was a six million dollars like six point
five if I recall correctly, there was a six point
five million dollars bonus that was was not in the
contract and all they needed to do was go back
over it and put it in, and it would have
took my earning average back to where it was supposed
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to be. Without that average, it dramatically dropped my my
earning average from what it was to to something it was.
It was something crazy. I was. I was very cutible
at that point in time. Put it to you like that,
and it was just it. I realized in that moment,
because I had nothing to do with it. You know,
(19:34):
contracts like your your agents like come to you. What
numbers are you thinking? Like? These numbers make sense to me.
I want to get to hear like, Okay, here's what
we're gonna do, here's how we're going to structure, and
here's that do okay great Um. I literally had to
get a a police I jumped in a police car
and they turned the lights on for me to get
(19:56):
from Ashburn, Virginia, to to green Belt, green Belt, Maryland,
to the team hotel and time enough for meetings. That's
how long the negotiations and and going through it and
signing everything took place. There were there were missed pages
that weren't signed. There was there was just a couple
of things. There were some you know, clerical errors that
(20:18):
were a part of the contract signing, and and was like,
you know, let them handle it, let them handle it,
and and then then then lo and behold fast forward.
You know, everything that happened and transpired after that, I
paid my way out. I gave two point five million
dollars back and bonus money to get out. I said,
I'd never worked for Dance Night or Another Day in
(20:40):
my life because that's just not the type of person
that I would want to work for. I'll go into
a different profession. I'll leave football together before I work
another another day for for a person like that. And
it doesn't surprise me. And you hear Alex Smith, you know,
he outed them talking about the dysfunction of the organization.
(21:02):
And you know, someone who was drafted as the number
one overall pick in with the San Francisco forty Niners,
he went through some of the difficulties with that organization.
But I don't know that anyone would confuse the two.
Is the forty Niners being a bad organization. They've had
the rough spots, uh with with Jed York as their
owner or operating as their owner. But you know, really,
(21:24):
when you look at the history of the forty Niners,
they're one of the more storied franchises. He goes to
Kansas City, you know, he he makes them a legitimate
playoff team every single year he was there, and then
he goes to watching It's like, yeah, this place has
some issues. They've got some skeletons in the closet. Uh,
they don't. There's no wonder that it just so happens
(21:45):
to coincide with when Dan Snyder took over the team,
they've struggled to have any consistent success. Here's the crazy
thing thing, though, because they've been to the playoffs like
what four or five times, I think since five times,
they've obviously have won the division. Granted that recently, which
that was at a crappy year. But still, you know,
if you look at the Washington Commandos whatever we're gonna
(22:10):
call him football team whatever they were before that, as
as like bad, as as dysfunctional as they are, like
they've at least been to the playoffs, they've at least
won their division. There's some teams that have a really
hard time saying that over the past two decades. And
that's the crazy thing when we hear these offseason storylines.
Is as bad as it must be able to be
(22:32):
a Washington Commandos fan, you still look at some of
these other organizations you're like, they've even had less success. Listen,
they've been serious. They've been better than the Giants the
last five six years, not even close. I mean the
Jags the Lions. Of course you want to throw in there,
I'm gonna ask you a serious question. Line, here's a
(22:54):
serious question. So if it comes to be that he
is basically stealing um money from from other owners, just
ticket revenue that is supposed to be portioned out that
he you know, may not have done. Uh, there's a
thought that this could be it that that now he's
burnt the final bridge, which is the bridge to other
owners that have that have had his back throughout all
(23:14):
this stuff. But but if this, if this isn't it
all right? And and they don't find enough there to
be able to take the team away. Honest question, what
is it gonna take for this guy to lose his
football team? I mean at this point, like why what
else is there? It sounds terrible to respond in this way,
but that's the whole point. That's how this thing is
(23:37):
set up. You know, these men didn't set this whole
league up in order for it to be taken away
from him like the snap of a finger. It's gonna
take a knockdown, drag out fight, and they're gonna do
everything they can to hold onto one of the thirty
two most prize possessions in the world, let alone our country.
(23:57):
So that's the reality of it is. As as much
as everyone in the outside looks at this and we're like, dude,
this guy needs to go, there's still a point where
all these owners, and as much as they want to
point fingers or be frustrated or even with this, Like
even as I look at this and I say, look,
there's three things that would always create fights in a
(24:17):
locker room. Okay, uh, religion, women, and money. And in
the case of the Washington Commandos, they got their hitting
two of the three. And I don't know if there's
some religious issues going on there too, but I'm just
saying that's the reality is. We we know about all
of the stuff in regards to the cheerleaders and some
of the employees. Now it's getting the point where all
(24:40):
right now he's holding back taking revenue from his partners.
The other owners, like these guys, eventure're gonna be like, yeah, dude,
you're on island, like like, save yourself. You're Tom hankson castaway.
Figure out figure out how you're getting off the island,
because we're not helping you anymore. But as much as
they want to say that, they might be turned around
going Oh, man, I got some skeletons in my clue.
You've done it too. Yeah, like like maybe I don't
(25:01):
want to be so harsh, or maybe I don't want to,
you know, isolate Dan little Danny boy, because if I do,
he go, we could have a problem. And that's the
problem something man, that's the well I mean look at
it like this. It's not that he has something that
no one else has. Like, like Brady just said, there's
(25:21):
probably the strong possibility that if if Dan goes down
for some of the things that are going to take
him down, he may start singing I'm gonna go down.
He has shown he's petty, I'm gonna go down, swinging
like I'm gonna take grooting out with me. I'm I'm
gonna take uh Alan out. Was the fall guy. Oh
(25:44):
there's like, hey, look over here, look at look at
John Crude. Don't look at me. There certainly are more
within the organization that we're abruptly. When I say abruptly,
they were abruptly removed from that building. You know that, Uh,
you know that Jerry Jones has a lot of influence.
I wonder if it gets to the point where Dan
(26:04):
Snyder feels like he's threatened and his team may go
by and by if he calls Jerry Jones and just says, hey, buddy,
you know that little situation you got going on with
that daughter. You don't want to claim that's twenty five
years old. There's more behind door number two. You want
to keep this up. He's got to have something on somebody.
I just don't get what what else could be checked
off the list because you mentioned it, Uh, you know, money, women, religion, race,
(26:30):
three of the four, three of the four he has
checked off the list. I just I don't know at
what point, Roger Goodell, what do you mean race? As
far as a team name, well, there's that, Yeah, there's that.
He felt like because that was something that he inherited anyway,
right like it wasn't he was pretty was he was.
He was guns a blazing. I remember when I got
(26:53):
the call a game out in Arizona, and I remember,
you know that was starting to become I think it
was in four team maybe team something like that, and
it was there was more pressure building on them to
change the name. I mean eight years ago almost, and uh,
I remember there was there was he was actually in
a box in Arizona right there on the road. He
was in a box with another like chief from a
(27:15):
different tribe, and they were he was there on on
in like support of Dan Snyder. At least that's how
they wanted it to appear. And so we had showed
them on the broadcast and you could kind of see
them talking and it was like it was one of
those deals where it was already controversial back then, and
he was doing everything he could have positioned himself to
(27:36):
not have to, you know, face the pushback for what
their team name was and what it should be. And
that was some of the things he'd set up. I mean,
he's been trying to manipulate this whole thing for a
long long time. It's crazy when you think about it.
I'll tell you what's crazy. Go look at all of
the companies that Dan Snyder has owned and look at
(27:56):
where they're at currently. That's what's crazy. Go look like
from six Flags to to rid Zebra too, whatever it
is else that he's ever owned, like since since we've
known him, since he's become of relevance because he owns
he owns the Washington team. Look at all of the
ventures he's done and check out what they're doing. Well,
(28:18):
I just Google searched red zebra instead of not twenty
one years of age. I can't click. Apparently, is this
like a club? Is this like an establishment? Can I
get your password? Zebra? Yeah? I think that was funny. Yeah,
it's kind of funny. I mean I thought yours was
much funnier than the truth. Do you know? By the
way I'm looking at it, there's like actual Is that
(28:39):
an actually? Now that's on a real zebra? And never mind?
All right, it is two pros and a cup of
joe here fix actually real real? Yeah, just look at
stuff up here. It's it's it's it's bizarre. What By
the way, what is the zebra? They just spray paint
a horse? Is that what it is? Say? They say,
because the zebra's nose is black, the rest of their
body is black, So they're actually black with white ripes.
(29:00):
Is from what I hear? I mean, Roberto, don't know
how true that is? Mean, Roberto, we're gonna let this
pass on a Monday. We're just gonna let this stuff lie.
Bear a brown bear, a grizzly bear. You know they
have they have black slacks. I don't know, this is
like a Santa Claus conversation that was like the who
you ask Santa Claus doesn't look the same, you know.
(29:23):
I thinks the same thing as the orchard with the zebra.
It's like, Oh, everyone's got their own interpretation, which is
the stripes and much harm. But I'm telling you that
I've never told you all. I got one of my
boy's house and I was like, oh, Santa looks different
over here. I didn't think about that before I was
I was like twelve years old. I was liken't. I
didn't really think about like how people have different perspective
(29:46):
on what Santa Claus. I was like, Santa could be different.
That's kind of a zebra. Two pros and a cup
of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio, the Riz Zebra
really is a strip club. I mean it sounded like it. Yeah,
it's a good good spot there. Yeah. And Mattawan New
Jersey Sports Bar and Lounge. Yeah it's yeah. I just
(30:12):
randomly popped up, do we lose LaVar for the rest
of the same Yeah, well have LaVar? I got off?
I got off. I got off. I would use it.
I would use different terminology. Oh I removed that buddy,
that might be the funniest fall into a horrible statement
(30:34):
that I've ever made in my entire existence. It happens
when you bring up a little Danny Boys a sudden
you start falling into different things. That's what's happening around.
I swiped and got the page down off of my phone. Yeah,
there we go. There it is. It is too Pros
(30:56):
and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Raining. I could
be so hard to try to. I removed myself from
a page. That's all right, listen, Uh there's uh, well,
we'll just leave it there, all right. Coming up next,
we do have a potential feud happening in the world
of sports with one of the all time grades. It's
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missed it, And for that we turn it over to
our executive producer Lee. Do you guys, I doubt any
of you miss it, But in case you did miss it,
there was WrestleMania this weekend. I missed it. I definitely
missed it. Well, there were uh a few celebrity sightings.
We saw Johnny Knoxville, Pat McAfee, Logan, Paul, all of
(33:04):
whom won their matches. Yeah, how about that three? And oh, um, Brady,
you you should be proud. I'll say a lot of
people give Logan and Jake Paul crap and they think
they're annoying the great entertainer. Legitimate athletes like Logan Paul
is fantastic, like he unbelievable. Um, and so you know,
I just an Ohio guy. You know I thought you
(33:25):
should be yeah both Ohio. Yeah, yeah, Well it looked
as far as w w egos between Logan, Paul, Mike
the miss He's from Parma, Ohio. Another Ohio guys. We've
got some We've got some strong candidates of guys who
have ventured off into the world of entertainment. You know,
the miss came from what reality TV and TV and
(33:46):
then segued into that he's made a career for himself.
And Logan Paul kind of started more from the social
media platform doing that. But both those guys. But again,
I have no idea what the hell happened on WrestleMania,
because I'm not a geek, and I think three Bruno
sam Martino used to jog around my uh my elementary
(34:07):
school when you were all in God every day and
we'd be like every single day. It was like the
first time, like there's Bruno sam Martino. There's Bruno sam Martino.
And you know what, I've been a wrestling fan ever since. Bro.
I can't whether it makes me a dork or nerd
or I don't know, but I've always enjoyed it. I
(34:29):
did not watch it in its entirety, but I did
see um bits and pieces of it, and and you know,
and of course, you know, it was in Dallas, and
and you know, obviously I hadn't behind the scenes look
at everything that was going on on MICA's Instagram as well,
so it looked like it was very nice. By the way, Uh,
(34:50):
pretty insulting comments from Brady Quinn, a guy who was
seen on SmackDown on Fox wearing a Legion of Doom
shirt sitting in the front row with Matt Leinart. Real
talk from Brady Quinn there, Huh, bullying the wrestling world
like that. I'm just saying it's not for me. If
you want to watch you know, scripted cord d stuff, cool,
so be it. I mean, I'm just saying you're the
(35:12):
one that bets on this stuff. By the way, I
lost I lost one. I lost once this weekend betting
on WrestleMania. Alright, So so who's that you had to
lay a lot? Because you know, it's pretty obvious who
was going to win a lot of these. But you
know what, that's that's not the point. I you know,
I made a little bit of coin betting on Wrestlemans.
Did you actually make it? When it was all said that,
(35:32):
did you actually make a profit? Because you claim you
win bets, but the way you bet, the juice is
so high you're you're usually never gonna win enough, especially
if you lose one of those. I ended up winning
about I think I think it's like two dollars and change.
But you know it's not bad. But well, yeah, but
considering that that penny and this is this is public site, right,
(35:57):
so you gotta pay taxes on those. Well listen, I
mean we're joking around obviously, you know we're doing this
for Yeah, listen that. I mean, look and trust me,
it'll all be gone too, and it'll all be gone
because you know, I'm a lot to thank you, just
like the final four? How many how many understood? I mean, listen,
(36:20):
I told you, I told you in a dome shooting
was gonna be off the chart, and uh, you know,
you know what wasn't a problem shooting? Oh my god,
By the way, I Kansas didn't miss the entire game,
the entire game. At what point the announcer was like,
oh my god, they're shooting the lights out the next
(36:42):
thing going off? Of course it is I The thing is,
I wasn't really I'm not only one who thinks that
way or or looks at it that way. But Jonas
convinced me Friday, he convinced me this was gonna be
the case. So I had my neighbor stopped over. I
was like, yeah, I don't know, you know, I talked
to him about it. I go. We talked about on radio.
(37:03):
I got you know, Dome. It could be tough shooting,
you know Kansas. You know the Villetas want to get
off to a you know, fast start trying to go
shot for shot with them. Maybe they try to slow
it down. That was not the case either. Thank god
he didn't lay their bed um what you guys. Tiger
Wood says he's going to be a game time decision
for the Masters. This week's bad controversy being spotted with
(37:25):
foot Joy shoes on practice round this week. Nike responded
partly with a statement saying, as he continues his return,
we will work with with Tiger to meet his new needs.
By the way, his foot joy is that the Rex
Ryant company is that is that his shoe company? Just
pretty funny. Heyduce flash, they're they're a golf shoe company.
Let me tell you this. They're better. They're they're better
(37:45):
shoes than Nike. I'm just saying they are. Oh my god,
Hey mc q is going hard. He is. I'm just
calling go bro. You would say, okay, all right? Like
not obviously, Rex Robin. When will we stop talking about Tiger?
(38:09):
We when is that traumatic comeback this leg. I don't
want him to lose anything, just us lose talking about him.
That's it. It's we talking about. Yes, what are we
talking about him for? He's gonna play in the Masters
(38:30):
after damn near dying. Oh my gosh, well let me
listen now. So basically, so, so here's what we sulted
about the prodcast. Why do we always talk? Why is
he still a headline? I don't. I just don't get
it because of that picture that surfaced of him years ago, LaVar,
(38:50):
is that one picture? What you're talking? Why don't you
always know about someone's k I do always know? I
thought everybody knew about that. There's a wong with you.
You always you always know. There's a crotch shot of
some dude. It's the weirdest thing. Guys, guys walking around
with a thermis on his bell buckle, and I gotta
like pay attention, like it's not there. Okay, fair enough,
we'll go survive when we don't have Tiger Woods headlines.
(39:14):
That's all that's question. Basically, what we accomplished here Brady
took out the w W E and Nike and LaVar.
LaVar just kneecapped Tiger Woods. Literally, I mean, come on.
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