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Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington debate whether the National Championship was won by the better team in Kansas, or gagged away by North Carolina. Brady breaks down the multiple draft picks trade between the Saints and Eagles. Twitter experts diagnose concussions from the couch. Plus, bad beats, Frank Gore’s boxing career and Tiger Woods at The Masters.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks. Coming up on this
Tuesday edition, the National Championship is in the books. Was
it a gag job by North Carolina or did Kansas
just take the game away? We will discuss all aspects
of it. Plus we have a concussion issue apparently in
the world of sports, a lot of doctors on social media.
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You've got a quarterback in the NFL who wasn't exactly
thrilled by his team's flirtatious nous with Deshaun Watson. We're
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Rock Chalk Jayhawk, the Kansas Jayhawks get it done. How
about it, Eddie's largest comeback ever? It is probably some
people who turn that game off at halftime or like
it ain't happening. They're not coming back. And now you
did mention the first part of history. There's actually two
doses of history last night. All right, So largest comeback
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in the history of a championship game and biggest gag
job in the history of a championship game by the
North Carolina tar Heels. I mean, why is it a
gag job? Why can't it be a cat, Why can't
it be both. You can't sit there and say a
team came back after the team they had a gag
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job because they had to come back North Carolina. But
you're okay, you're saying that team came back. You're giving
them the benefit of saying they overcame. They are the ones,
They're the reason why they won that game. They came back.
If you're saying a team gagged it away, you're then saying, well,
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that seem really didn't come back. The other team just
played like trap in the second half. Listen, you can't
spill in North Carolina with that gag. That's actually one
one both can true. A team can come back from
a deficit, and a team can play there themselves out
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of the league or out of the leite, which to
me is a gag job. I thought, gag job, like
I don't tell you when I saw New England down
to Atlanta come back and win that or is that
a gag job by Atlantic? Because I would say this.
There's not one person I know that gives New England
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credit for coming back, and it says, says gag job
by Atlanta. Well now you do, I mean, well now
you can't say no one, I'll jump into that category.
Point Now ask you a week from now, probably a
different response. You might be right, but I might still
stand on the fact. Can't they gagged it away? Can
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we give a round of applause for someone? Though? Did
we get a round of applause? Um? Someone didn't know
if there if they're prognostication would ever come to life?
But Jonas stocks he finally finally talking about I mean,
it's took a while. It's talking a lot of games,
a lot of losses, talking about gag jobs and overcoming
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Jona finally hit over under. Studio audience in attended to you.
That's a round of applause. Look, you just keep going
back to the well, you keep going there. Eventually you're
going to hit it under and uh And it turned
out that way. Now the problem was I think what
was the over under had a condo overtime, not feeling
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too confident about about the ability of of course not
but uh, but listen to and Kansas tried to do
their best part by stepping out of bounds on an
inbounds play late in that game to give North Carolina.
And Carolina did the same exact thing while they were
gagging the game. I think you all just want to
say gag this morning. I mean, when they were shooting
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those three towards, then the the game layups, they were
the game away a great ablute. Absolutely couldn't breathe nothing,
nothing zed standing in the corner, you know, looking around.
It just it's just Bruce well, Bruce, Yeah, just there.
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There was a lot going on. It was a phenomenal
game though. It was fantastic a great final four. UH
and Kansas wins their fourth national title. And they were
the best team in the tournament if you just go
game by game performance wise, they were the best team
in the tournament. They were down fifteen and a a half.
It did not look good at all after they got
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off to a hot start and then UH and then
all of a sudden they got hot in the second half.
North Carolina didn't have enough going there. I know Doug
gott Leap throughout on Twitter that he thinks Duke the
fatigue from the Duke aim really got to North Carolina.
I don't know that I necessarily buy into that. That
just felt like big and bad to lead late. Manic
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hit that that put back and they were up by
a point and had to lead late. But unfortunately, you know, uh,
if you had you know, North Carolina plus four and
a half, you were the better team one. I mean,
come on, like we don't forget anything else, Like that's
why I feel like it was Kansas who won this
game and a comeback over U n C. You jumped
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off to a big, big lead at halftime, really in
the first half, Like that's the reality of it. North
Carolina was an overachieving team in this tournament. They were
gonna be the second what eight seed ever since Villanova
to win it. I mean, let's be real about it.
It was a great run. Um, I think you look
at the team and its entirety and just like the
heart and everything else that they showed, they're a fun
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team to watch. At the end of the day, though,
Kansas was the better team and the better team ended
up winning, And that's usually how it works when you're
playing basketball out more talent on one side than the other.
Like that was the reality, and and LaVar said it.
They had no answer for McCormick. They had no answer
for him whatsoever. By the way, Christian Pram, if you
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if you think about the ultimate Kansas Jayhawk, okay, dude
was born in Kansas. I think it won like three
state titles as the Kansas Gayorade State Player of the Year,
had almost twenty offers, end up going to Kansas, and
the dude ends up balling out now winning a national championship.
Like pretty cool story for a kid that I think
literally might might turn into a Jayhawk in his second life.
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But um, they were the better team, Like there's no
other way around it. Like that. That's that's why I
feel like, again not going back to that debate, but
it wasn't a gag job. It's it's like UNC had
to play the way they did in the first half
of the entirety of the game in order to win,
and law of averages played out and the better team one.
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You know, Hubert Davis seemingly about his his sentiments kind
of echoes what you're saying. But I still think it
was a gag job. And and and I just you know,
and I thought the floor gag job Baycot, Like I
thought that there were a lot of things that just
got weird, Like when not when the kid came in
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bounds to inbounds the ball and just steps in bounds
and had no one to pass the ball to. I said, Oh,
they're gonna lose. I said, that's the moment I knew.
I was like, you know what, and you look. You
could see Hubert Davis on the sideline. He kept taking
his glasses off and put them back on. At that moment.
I was like, you know what, he knows it too.
I was surprised he didn't call time out, like I
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was like, in my mind, I'm like, call time out.
That's one of those plays. You get them, you you
huddle them up, you tell them this is the biggest
game of your lives to date. Like let's let's calm down,
let's relax, let's chill out, and let's keep playing tour
hill basketball. Yes, Kansas comes in on paper as the
better team. Yes, you were going to have a difficult
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time with McCormick down low. A joh, he is that
is that? How you said? A John? He? Lets say
it's like the running back um. Anyway, you were going
to have problems with their guys. But you know what,
it was bench play Remy Remy Martin like came in
and gave him a spark um that was really maybe
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maybe the catalyst in some regards. I just thought that
Carolina got sloppy and and I think, you know, the
way I looked at it, in the way I felt
when I saw the way the league got away from him,
it's like they pulled up. It's like that that four
hundred meters or maybe even the eight hundred meters, right, yeah,
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maybe four hundred. They they go around, they got such
a good lead that they they actually took the time
to turn around and look, and then they turned around
and looking they saw all Kansas with that kick, and
when they saw their kick, they didn't have an answer
for the kick, and they lost the race in the end.
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To me, they should have just stayed on the pedal,
not not relaxed, and and and and felt as though
this was a game that was in control and out
of reach for Kansas, and they should have did what
got them there. You said, they had to come out
and play the way they did to be in the
game with Kansas. All they had to do was keep
doing that in the second half, and they did it.
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But it's hard to do that. How many teams have
jumped out to that sort of lead versus Kansas. How
many how many first halks as Kansas had this year
where they played that way to start off a game.
If you go back to the Final four game, they
beat the ever living crap out of Villanova from the
wire to wire. It was never even close besides zero
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zero from the beginning of the game. I mean, that's
that was I don't want to say that was their
path necessarily to the National Championship, but I think they
had one of the more smoother paths in comparison to
some of the other teams. And I don't know, maybe
Doug's right, maybe you un see. I was feeling that
a little bit from that battle with Duke and but
I don't know about the rest of them. But what
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was the when Baycott went down with the injury. Um,
I think Bill Raftery was trying to say that Kansas
didn't attack the missing player because Baycot was down at
the end, and he's like, well, you know, I think they're,
you know, good sportsmanship, trying to you know, give him
time to recover. And I'm thinking to myself, it was
that Bill self's plan he's probably he's probably looking at
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that as an opportunity, like, hey man, we got a
five on four, like, let's we're players, just expecting them
to call time out, and because there was an injured
player on the other end of the floor, it just
it seemed it seemed a little odd, And in that moment,
I find it hard to believe that they wanted to
show good sportsmanship and make sure he got up. At
that point, you're trying to him, let's go, let's go.
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I'm kind of with with Jonas though, like as a player,
you see a dude down, Like I get that everyone's
trying to be cutthroat, but I don't know some part
of me to be like expecting eventually the whistle to blow.
Hey let's get this guy out the floor before someone
gets hurt. Yeah, But like I just I think that's
more of the side of me where I'm like, do
you want to be able to then be the guy
who was like, oh, yeah, we took advantage of that
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guy down on the floor and that was the pivotal
moment of the game to win it. Maybe like like
like here's the problems I'm not that guy, Like I
don't want to be that guy that yeah, we definitely
not where you're gonna come back and go, well, yeah, dude,
the guy got hurt and you guys got a cheap
lay up because you were five on four. Like, like,
I don't want to be that guy. And that's why
I feel like, I don't know, maybe that thought entered
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their head send me being that guy so much we
tend to look like and I don't know if you
guys feel this way, but like I was watching the game,
and sometimes you're like questioning kids decisions or or what
they do and all that you kind of forget like
these kids are eighteen two years old, sometimes seventeen, yeah
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the days, but you forget that, like you forget how
young they are. Yeah, it's like and so so when
you see like a team, it's not they don't gag
it away, they just they're young. Like they're gonna make mistakes.
It's college sports, like why and the like you're not
It's it's not like it's their job out there with
the way they're playing and then they're gonna make those mistakes,
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Like there's still an element of inexperience. I just I
don't know, I think and I heard some some rumblings
after the game because I had sources there in New
Orleans who were looking into this, and they were saying
that part of the reason why they didn't take advantage
of when Baycott was down at the other end of
the floor or Kansas is because they knew that North
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Carolina was already gagging the game away, and so they
felt like there was it wasn't necessary. We don't have
to rush. His gag was worse than everyone's else because
he couldn't. You know, I believe it is too pros
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So we've we've been talking about how it's been a
wild offseason for the NFL, a lot of movement trades,
things like that, and um, there was another trade yesterday,
this one unlike any that I can recall seeing. Uh,
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And I figured, you know, with all the numbers we're
gonna throw aut people to try and break this down,
we need a little bit of a theme song to
go along with it. So so hit it live studio
band here. So here's how it works. It's the Saints
in the Eagles starring in this multiple draft pick trade.
Yesterday in the NFL, the Saints traded their first round
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pick number eighteen, their fourth and sixth round picks this year,
number one on one and number two thirty seven of
first next year, and a second in two thousand twenty
four to the Eagles in exchange for two first number
sixteen and number nineteen this year. And it's six number
one this year. And that concludes are multiple mid round,
mid first round draft pick and other round draft pick
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trades between the Saints and the Eagles. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, somebody explaining to me, what the Brady you
got it? I couldn't understand when I read it, and
I've I've seen it. I was like, I hope Brady
got it because I can't explain it. What's happening here? Um? Yeah.
So if you look at essentially what the Eagles did
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is they probably felt like with three first round picks,
it's not that they can't afford them. That is part
of that is part of the logic to it, right, Like,
you're gonna be coming up on three guys who you're
gonna have to figure out whether or not you need
to extend them all at the same time. Right, that
can be difficult. I think one of the thoughts too is,
you know, if if you're looking at this draft, they
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might be saying, hey, dude, we're stuck. You know, in
between ten and twenty, there's not really you know, three
guys we feel like you're gonna come in right away
and either A make the roster, make the impact we're
hoping they're going to make, So why not push it
a year from now? Um? And and but that way
we can kind of balance out our our draft and
our ability to go grab a couple of good players
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we feel really good about, or package those two together,
whether this year or next year, and be able to
then move up to take a player we really feel
good about. Like that's the reality of it with any
of these picks, is you want to be able to
find someone that's gonna be a starter your roster for
a decade, right, Like that's the hope you're able to
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find in all this. What I don't really understand is
why now. I mean, you have so much time before
the draft. Usually when you see these sorts of trades happened,
it's maybe the week of the day before. You know,
you kind of wait to search out to see if
if this is the best offer, and you push to
that draft deadline in order to do it. So my
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only thought to why this happened now is that maybe
either Philly is trying to work on something, or New
Orleans trying to work on something to create a package
to get something or someone else, or maybe maneuver even
higher up the draft board. Who knows, But you know,
I think this is um, it's an interesting move by
Philly and hopefully people understand this too. When you trade
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a future draft pick, um the team that's receiving that
doesn't look at that future draft pick today. So the
first rounder that Philly receives, they don't look at that
first rounder today as a first round pick. They view
it today as a second round pick, if that makes sense,
and second round picked if he was a third round pick.
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And it's because the immediacy of having that pick now
holds more weight or value to not only the team
that's using that pick, but also any other team that
needs that pick to go draft a player. Right, And
so that's the other thing about this is is when
you look at it and you're like, all right, you
know they gave up one of their first round picks
for a future first round pick. It's that kind of
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even swapped there. It's really not. If you talked to
a lot of front office executives, they will not view
it that way. They will say, now it's more like
a second round pick, and then that second round picks
more like a third round pick. So that's typically how
a lot of these teams behind closed doors view future
picks in these trades and draft compensation. If that makes sense.
It didn't to me, but I'll say this, okay, time
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value of money, all right, a dollar today is worth
more than a dollar tomorrow. Does that make sense to you?
Rather have tomorrow is worth more than a dollar today
because of it? No, because it loses out on the
opportunity to an interest, and obviously you lose out on inflation.
So very similar to that, you know, the immediacy of
having that now cash now is more valuable than having it.
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You know, that's that same amount which we're talking about
in the future. Thank you, Yeah, I get it. I
get that. Yeah. I'll just say this. I don't get
why you would give up two first rounders and only
got one out of the deal. That's that's to me,
fundamentally speaking where I live in, I guess the world
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of what my sensibility is and practicalities of of of
using it. I don't get it. I don't get why
you would give up one. Because you again, regardless of
of of that reasoning, that one is is a two,
two is a three. You still gave up to two ones.
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I mean, granted one is offset by the other, but
it's even a lower it's an even a lower draft pick,
right like the one Philly gave up with sixteen they
got eighteen. They got eighteen, which was higher than their nineteen,
which was part higher than their nineteen. They give up
the nineteen and there's and they have their original it
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was a fifteen or thirteen or so whatever the other
one was. Yeah, I just I don't know, and I
guess because I'm more well, I'm not a front office guy,
for one, but then for two, I just I just
think that you can never have too much talent. And
if you're gonna have to do redo a contract like
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by eighteen nineteen, that's not a that's not a tremendously
large contract. Maybe if it's a quarterback, it's it's a
decent size based off of whatever that slotting is for QB.
But I don't I don't know that those those numbers
are that high for that number of a pick. Why
not get somebody that can possibly either turn into trade value,
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turns into a possible franchise guy. Maybe someone who plays
a role that helps your team win more. This is
not a team that is good enough to be taught.
You know, well, we'll defer this one until this time,
and we'll make sure that we plan for this one
two years and three years from now, Philly. You're not
good enough to do that so I don't understand why
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they're not being aggressive, And maybe they are. I just
don't get it. Maybe it's outside of my realm of understanding,
But why are you not being more aggressive about trying
to get as much talent as you can? And if
that's leveraging those draft picks. I want something that shows
me I have the value I get, uh, Davonte Adams.
I get a player that can come in and and change,
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you know, a Tyreek kill. Why not put those those
picks on Tyreek Hill. Here's what I've seen that's been
speculated from the New Orleans standpoint why they would do
the deal to get up to sixteen. Now, it's because
they are. One of the things that was thrown out
there is well, maybe they felt like they needed to
jump the Chargers at seventeen so that way they could
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guarantee their guys gonna be there. Dude, we're talking about
the middle of the first round. We have no idea
who the hell is gonna be there, Like, like, this
isn't a top two situation where you know who's going
number one, So just trade up to two so you
can ice out whoever's picking it three. It's the middle
of the first round. We have no idea how this
whole does. Two Orleans have to justify anything like they won.
They won the trade that like to me, just at
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a glance, they they won that. That just to be clear,
I mean, the Eagles still have to first correct. They
only they only gave up one this year in order
to have an additional one next year and then move
up a little bit with their second one of the
first round this year and add in a fourth and
sixth round pick this year. So but they did lose
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a first round pick, right, did not? They got a
future one next year, So it's even Yeah, as as
far as on paper, the way it looks that they
swapped it just like I said before, where where it
didn't make as much sense as they're taking a future
first round pick that in the short term as of today,
right now, it's looked more like a second round pick.
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As far as the value scales you look at when
you're in the front office, that makes more sense. I
thought they gave up two first rounders and didn't get
to and return That's how I read they got. They
got the number eight, so they still have the number
fifteen pick and the number eighteen pick. In this year's
first round. Then they got New Orleans first round pick
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in and a second round pick in as well as
the fourth and sixth round pick this year from the Saints,
so they did get a good amount of of consideration.
I just think it plays in the first thing you said, LaVar,
I don't I don't know that you want, you know,
three guys in the first round that you're you're trying
to have hits on if you don't love all of them,
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and in the middle of the first round, you know,
I don't know, I don't know how many of those
guys are saying like, yeah, we absolutely love this draft class.
We love what's gonna be potentially be there, because to
Jonas's point, they don't know what's gonna be there. There's
there's there's no idea you can know how the rest
of the draft is going to go. And so maybe
they maybe they're thinking their heads, hey, let's go ahead
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and plan more for the future so we can have
more sustained maybe success either building around Jalen Hurts or
have in the draft capital in the future to trade
up to replace him. Like, I think that's more of
what this is about. From Philly standpoint this this roster
is is loaded to the point where it hurts, has
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another opportunity to prove whether or not he's the guy.
But guess what if he's not? Bryce Young c J. Stroud.
They all sitting there waiting, and I guarantee you, I
don't know which one it will be that will go
in this order. I guarantee you they're gonna go one
to the next year's draft. I guarantee that it's a
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to lose one million dollar. It's just a terrible way
to lose it. We will talk about that for you
here in another edition of incase you missed it here
on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, so here's the why
you guys can speak on this better than anybody. You've
both had concussions, correct playing in the NFL football. Alright.
I'm just I'm just saying, well, no, I'm just I
don't think it's that personal. What do you mean, well,
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because you haven't had a concussion, Well, I help you
out though, I'm well, and I appreciate that an experience.
I mean, I feel threatened. So this is please, somebody, please,
What do you mean you well, listen to radio. We
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could be whoever we want to be. How do you
know I'm not Jamaican? You know what I mean? Like
stopping very good. So here's why I asked the question.
Um Brady Mannik, who was Chris came in stunt double.
He was in the game last night for North Carolina
and he took an elbow to the face in the
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first half, and there are people that just automatically assumed
by the way he fell that he had a concussion.
And then North Carolina was getting a little bit of
heat on social media because it didn't appear like he
was put through the concussion protocol. But I'm a little
confused because he came back and he was hitting shot
and he played the whole rest of the game. And
I'm just trying to figure out why it is people
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think they can diagnose a concussion from their couch while
watching a professional sporting event. Well, why why do we
are watching a sporting event in general, collegiate or professional?
Why do we just assume we know what the hell
of concussion looks like? Levels? There's different levels of being
concussed you know, there they can be functional as as
someone who's been concussed. If it's a severe concussion, that's
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that's very different in nature in terms of the visual
of it, that you can see it like there's something
visually wrong with the person they're impaired. But in terms
of if if you get you know, dinged, as we've
we've called it, if you get your bell wrung or whatever,
(28:47):
you can actually clear up pretty quickly. And and so
it just depends. I mean, if he did, you know,
shake hisself loose a little bit, um, I know I
didn't see it. I didn't see any symptoms of it
in terms of just it being visibly noticeable. But I mean,
make no mistake about it. Until concussions became a thing
(29:11):
that that people were made aware of, it's commonplace to
get a concussion and keep going. It was commonplace. The
only way you didn't come back is if it was
too severe for you to be able to actually even
you know, like know who you are operate as as
a person. That's the only times I mean, I'll put
(29:33):
it this with my experience of concussions, and I kind
of had a varying degrees, right, And as I've told
you guys, I was so ignorant to seeing stars and
what that meant, Like, I never knew what that meant.
And I finally, after having a pretty severe concussion UM
about ten years ago, I end up going to Pittsburgh
talk to Dr Maron, who was the guy as a
(29:54):
neurologist who really you know him, and Mickey Collins. They
started the Impact Test. The Impact test is what most
athletes now take as their baseline tests to determine whether
or not they're concussed and whether or not they're they're
able to recover and ready to go back to play.
And I remember talking to him. I was like, gosh,
I felt so stupid because I never realized like I
(30:16):
was describing what what happened after I got hit and
he goes, oh, you saw stars. I was like it
was the first time someone had basically said to me like, yeah,
that's what that is. Man. So UM, to LaVar's point,
you could have varying degrees of it where you know,
you might be absolutely knocked out, and I think we
all have seen that and witness that. There might be
other times where it's glancing blows where it doesn't hit
(30:38):
you right away. UM, where the the onset of things
that come light sensitivity, You start to get a headache,
started gett nauseous. Those things come later on, um and
and and you really can't connect back to what it was.
I mean, I remember my sophomore year playing a game
where I played almost the entire thing up until the
drive we had to go ahead. Then they took me
out as our defense, you know, was able to get
(31:00):
off the field and seal the game. And I remember,
I don't remember anything the second half, you know. And
I remember waking up in the infirmary on campus and
people ask me questions the five things I was supposed
to remember all this stuff, and I was so disoriented.
Yet I had been awake the entire time. I just
had no recollection of it. So there's some crazy moments
with all that. It's it's just let me look at
(31:21):
the end of the day. It's Twitter. Because I'm not
sure if you know this. You have to have a
medical degree in order to be able to get a
Twitter handle and then give your opinion or advice about
medical injury injuries. Uh, it could be investing advice. I mean,
I'm not sure if you realize this, but Twitter seems
to be the place to go when you're an expert,
even though you have zero zero requirements as far as
(31:45):
what you actually need from an educational segree. It's great.
You can just kind of skip the line. You don't
have to go to medical school. You just skip the line,
a log into Twitter and away we go. Not get
that sentimental way. I'll tell you that one. That one
was good. You nailed it from start of Fennish Wire
to wire. Baby. If you you want to go talk
to people who have like in depth knowledge on things,
(32:07):
go to to Twitter, go to school. All right, now,
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in case you missed it. Kansas was the four point favorite,
and betters are furious that they were not able to
get that inbounds in because they were not able to cover.
And one Better put a cold one million dollars down
on the minus four. It sounds like a gag job
to me. Yeah, that's a bad who put a million dollars? Now? Yeah?
(34:18):
One better? Oh, one Better? That's his name? One Better, alright,
I mean, they don't accompany your name with everybody, mad.
I just figured if it made hit lines, they'd have
a person's name, you know, and maybe it's one Better. Um,
here's so first night, one last name better. So he
was expecting that that Kansas was gonna go go and
(34:41):
hit two free throws and he was going to cover
his I mean, at some at some point, don't you
want to hedge your bet? Don't you want to hedge
your bet, put a little bit of coin on the opposite.
Some people just feel good sometimes when they put that
type of I mean, don't you imagine you gotta feel
some type of good to put a million I don't
(35:01):
care how much money you have. I don't care if
you're an Elon Muskie. Right to put a million dollars
down on a single bet you're feeling some type of way. Yeah,
I'm with LaVar. I mean you're you're probably feeling some
sort of high where you think you I don't know,
But in this case, man, I just I don't know
(35:24):
what you wanted to describe it as. I mean, some
of us told you yesterday Kansas would win, but they
wouldn't cover you know, Hunter over unders. I mean, listen
to if he was a listener to this show, he
would have known that. I that I told you the under.
I don't think you want anything else, but thank you, man,
million dollar better. Um you guys, In case you missed yesterday,
(35:47):
we were talking about Frank Gore retiring. Um well, he's
actually gonna make his professional boxing debut on May fourteenth,
which just happens to be his thirty ninth birthday. But
they lost yeah, to a basketball player, and that was
an exhibition belt, but this will be an actual professional
debut went poorly, why not just turn professional? This is
(36:08):
a This is a terrible idea. I just this is
what I worry about with professional athletes, especially jumping into
this is I would imagine Frank Gore has suffered a
number of headaches, and that's not helping the situation there
in boxing. I mean, obviously the exhibition bout wasn't good,
(36:29):
and now you're gonna jump into the ring professionally. I
don't know who's advising him, who's you know, talking to
it in all this. I don't know what his personal
situation is, but you'd have to think that somewhat dire,
right if he needs to do professional boxing in order
to drive an income and he's played sixteen years in
the NFL. I hope that's not the case. I hope,
he hop I just hope he's just like a classic
(36:51):
workhorse man, like some dudes just gotta be doing stuff
like I'll be looking at and I'm sure some people
look at me the same way, like you do too
much for what you've done in life, and I'm like,
you know, I'm just not gonna put myself in that
type of I do too much. Like I get up,
I get up at one in the morning to do
a radio show at three am, you know what I mean.
(37:13):
Like that's doing too much. Like I could be sleeping,
but I'm not gonna get up to go train to
go box somebody after I played sixteen years of football
and played the way he did, you know, running between
the tackles, and said, I don't know, I wish him
all the all the best, wishing well. I mean, I
know he's really good dude, but man, I'm I'm praying
(37:33):
for his safety in this Man, how much do you
guys you want to take a guess as to how
much he made in his NFL career Frank or you
want to take I got the I'm gonna say he
made over thirty million. I'm gonna say around sixty or
seventy if if we're looking at it from I don't know,
(37:54):
maybe what the contracts tallied, uh, a little over sixty
three million dollars for Frank his NFL career. Well, he's
about thirty after taxes. So I mean, I look at
that and go, man, if you can just invest that
simply if you're taking care of it. You should not
(38:15):
need to do this. So maybe it's just more passion
for him. Yeah, I hope so, because you are your investment,
you are your stock. Every time you make a play,
that's your your share, your your own share. I feel
like there's been they're safer passions to have than a
professional boxing airplane, an archer archery. Yeah, you know paper airplanes,
(38:38):
like do something safe. That is a good that is
a good point. By the way, you're making Iowa Sam
uncomfortable of our every time you say the word gag
wants to dump it. Yeah, he just very uncomfortable with me.
If you if your mind is is somewhere along the
curve of the street, and then that's one thing. But
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I mean for me, I'm just talking about you know, sports,
the sports talks. I agree. I don't get it. I
don't know what what's going on here. There's legal terms
that use that for that that word as well. Yeah,
the gag order. Here you go, hello you guys. As
we get closer to the Masters, Tiger Woods practiced again
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Rock Chalk Jayhawk, the Kansas Jayhawks get it done. How
about it, Eddie's largest comeback ever? It is probably some
people who turn that game off at halftime or like
it ain't happening. They're not coming back. And now you
did mention the first part of history. There's actually two
doses of history last night. All right, So largest comeback
(02:04):
in the history of a championship game and biggest gag
job in the history of a championship game by the
North Carolina tar Heels. I mean, why is it a
gag job? Why can't it be a cat, Why can't
it be both. You can't sit there and say a
team came back after the team they had a gag
(02:25):
job because they had to come back North Carolina. But
you're okay, you're saying that team came back. You're giving
them the benefit of saying they overcame. They are the ones,
They're the reason why they won that game. They came back.
If you're saying a team gagged it away, you're then saying, well,
(02:47):
that seem really didn't come back. The other team just
played like trap in the second half. Listen, you can't
spill in North Carolina with that gag. That's actually one
one both can true. A team can come back from
a deficit, and a team can play there themselves out
(03:08):
of the league or out of the leite, which to
me is a gag job. I thought, gag job, like
I don't tell you when I saw New England down
to Atlanta come back and win that or is that
a gag job by Atlantic? Because I would say this.
There's not one person I know that gives New England
(03:29):
credit for coming back, and it says, says gag job
by Atlanta. Well now you do, I mean, well now
you can't say no one, I'll jump into that category.
Point Now ask you a week from now, probably a
different response. You might be right, but I might still
stand on the fact. Can't they gagged it away? Can
(03:52):
we give a round of applause for someone? Though? Did
we get a round of applause? Um? Someone didn't know
if there if they're prognostication would ever come to life?
But Jonas stocks he finally finally talking about I mean,
it's took a while. It's talking a lot of games,
a lot of losses, talking about gag jobs and overcoming
(04:15):
Jona finally hit over under. Studio audience in attended to you.
That's a round of applause. Look, you just keep going
back to the well, you keep going there. Eventually you're
going to hit it under and uh And it turned
out that way. Now the problem was I think what
was the over under had a condo overtime, not feeling
(04:36):
too confident about about the ability of of course not
but uh, but listen to and Kansas tried to do
their best part by stepping out of bounds on an
inbounds play late in that game to give North Carolina.
And Carolina did the same exact thing while they were
gagging the game. I think you all just want to
say gag this morning. I mean, when they were shooting
(04:58):
those three towards, then the the game layups, they were
the game away a great ablute. Absolutely couldn't breathe nothing,
nothing zed standing in the corner, you know, looking around.
It just it's just Bruce well, Bruce, Yeah, just there.
(05:27):
There was a lot going on. It was a phenomenal
game though. It was fantastic a great final four. UH
and Kansas wins their fourth national title. And they were
the best team in the tournament if you just go
game by game performance wise, they were the best team
in the tournament. They were down fifteen and a a half.
It did not look good at all after they got
(05:47):
off to a hot start and then UH and then
all of a sudden they got hot in the second half.
North Carolina didn't have enough going there. I know Doug
gott Leap throughout on Twitter that he thinks Duke the
fatigue from the Duke aim really got to North Carolina.
I don't know that I necessarily buy into that. That
just felt like big and bad to lead late. Manic
(06:08):
hit that that put back and they were up by
a point and had to lead late. But unfortunately, you know, uh,
if you had you know, North Carolina plus four and
a half, you were the better team one. I mean,
come on, like we don't forget anything else, Like that's
why I feel like it was Kansas who won this
game and a comeback over U n C. You jumped
(06:28):
off to a big, big lead at halftime, really in
the first half, Like that's the reality of it. North
Carolina was an overachieving team in this tournament. They were
gonna be the second what eight seed ever since Villanova
to win it. I mean, let's be real about it.
It was a great run. Um, I think you look
at the team and its entirety and just like the
heart and everything else that they showed, they're a fun
(06:50):
team to watch. At the end of the day, though,
Kansas was the better team and the better team ended
up winning, And that's usually how it works when you're
playing basketball out more talent on one side than the other.
Like that was the reality, and and LaVar said it.
They had no answer for McCormick. They had no answer
for him whatsoever. By the way, Christian Pram, if you
(07:11):
if you think about the ultimate Kansas Jayhawk, okay, dude
was born in Kansas. I think it won like three
state titles as the Kansas Gayorade State Player of the Year,
had almost twenty offers, end up going to Kansas, and
the dude ends up balling out now winning a national championship.
Like pretty cool story for a kid that I think
literally might might turn into a Jayhawk in his second life.
(07:35):
But um, they were the better team, Like there's no
other way around it. Like that. That's that's why I
feel like, again not going back to that debate, but
it wasn't a gag job. It's it's like UNC had
to play the way they did in the first half
of the entirety of the game in order to win,
and law of averages played out and the better team one.
(07:55):
You know, Hubert Davis seemingly about his his sentiments kind
of echoes what you're saying. But I still think it
was a gag job. And and and I just you know,
and I thought the floor gag job Baycot, Like I
thought that there were a lot of things that just
got weird, Like when not when the kid came in
(08:19):
bounds to inbounds the ball and just steps in bounds
and had no one to pass the ball to. I said, Oh,
they're gonna lose. I said, that's the moment I knew.
I was like, you know what, and you look. You
could see Hubert Davis on the sideline. He kept taking
his glasses off and put them back on. At that moment.
I was like, you know what, he knows it too.
I was surprised he didn't call time out, like I
(08:41):
was like, in my mind, I'm like, call time out.
That's one of those plays. You get them, you you
huddle them up, you tell them this is the biggest
game of your lives to date. Like let's let's calm down,
let's relax, let's chill out, and let's keep playing tour
hill basketball. Yes, Kansas comes in on paper as the
better team. Yes, you were going to have a difficult
(09:03):
time with McCormick down low. A joh, he is that
is that? How you said? A John? He? Lets say
it's like the running back um. Anyway, you were going
to have problems with their guys. But you know what,
it was bench play Remy Remy Martin like came in
and gave him a spark um that was really maybe
(09:27):
maybe the catalyst in some regards. I just thought that
Carolina got sloppy and and I think, you know, the
way I looked at it, in the way I felt
when I saw the way the league got away from him,
it's like they pulled up. It's like that that four
hundred meters or maybe even the eight hundred meters, right, yeah,
(09:48):
maybe four hundred. They they go around, they got such
a good lead that they they actually took the time
to turn around and look, and then they turned around
and looking they saw all Kansas with that kick, and
when they saw their kick, they didn't have an answer
for the kick, and they lost the race in the end.
(10:08):
To me, they should have just stayed on the pedal,
not not relaxed, and and and and felt as though
this was a game that was in control and out
of reach for Kansas, and they should have did what
got them there. You said, they had to come out
and play the way they did to be in the
game with Kansas. All they had to do was keep
doing that in the second half, and they did it.
(10:30):
But it's hard to do that. How many teams have
jumped out to that sort of lead versus Kansas. How
many how many first halks as Kansas had this year
where they played that way to start off a game.
If you go back to the Final four game, they
beat the ever living crap out of Villanova from the
wire to wire. It was never even close besides zero
(10:52):
zero from the beginning of the game. I mean, that's
that was I don't want to say that was their
path necessarily to the National Championship, but I think they
had one of the more smoother paths in comparison to
some of the other teams. And I don't know, maybe
Doug's right, maybe you un see. I was feeling that
a little bit from that battle with Duke and but
I don't know about the rest of them. But what
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was the when Baycott went down with the injury. Um,
I think Bill Raftery was trying to say that Kansas
didn't attack the missing player because Baycot was down at
the end, and he's like, well, you know, I think they're,
you know, good sportsmanship, trying to you know, give him
time to recover. And I'm thinking to myself, it was
that Bill self's plan he's probably he's probably looking at
(11:34):
that as an opportunity, like, hey man, we got a
five on four, like, let's we're players, just expecting them
to call time out, and because there was an injured
player on the other end of the floor, it just
it seemed it seemed a little odd, And in that moment,
I find it hard to believe that they wanted to
show good sportsmanship and make sure he got up. At
that point, you're trying to him, let's go, let's go.
(11:58):
I'm kind of with with Jonas though, like as a player,
you see a dude down, Like I get that everyone's
trying to be cutthroat, but I don't know some part
of me to be like expecting eventually the whistle to blow.
Hey let's get this guy out the floor before someone
gets hurt. Yeah, But like I just I think that's
more of the side of me where I'm like, do
you want to be able to then be the guy
who was like, oh, yeah, we took advantage of that
(12:19):
guy down on the floor and that was the pivotal
moment of the game to win it. Maybe like like
like here's the problems I'm not that guy, Like I
don't want to be that guy that yeah, we definitely
not where you're gonna come back and go, well, yeah, dude,
the guy got hurt and you guys got a cheap
lay up because you were five on four. Like, like,
I don't want to be that guy. And that's why
I feel like, I don't know, maybe that thought entered
(12:40):
their head send me being that guy so much we
tend to look like and I don't know if you
guys feel this way, but like I was watching the game,
and sometimes you're like questioning kids decisions or or what
they do and all that you kind of forget like
these kids are eighteen two years old, sometimes seventeen, yeah
(13:02):
the days, but you forget that, like you forget how
young they are. Yeah, it's like and so so when
you see like a team, it's not they don't gag
it away, they just they're young. Like they're gonna make mistakes.
It's college sports, like why and the like you're not
It's it's not like it's their job out there with
the way they're playing and then they're gonna make those mistakes,
(13:23):
Like there's still an element of inexperience. I just I
don't know, I think and I heard some some rumblings
after the game because I had sources there in New
Orleans who were looking into this, and they were saying
that part of the reason why they didn't take advantage
of when Baycott was down at the other end of
the floor or Kansas is because they knew that North
(13:45):
Carolina was already gagging the game away, and so they
felt like there was it wasn't necessary. We don't have
to rush. His gag was worse than everyone's else because
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How about that? How's effort? Tease? All right? I certainly
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this one unlike any that I can recall seeing. Uh,
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Yesterday in the NFL, the Saints traded their first round
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pick number eighteen, their fourth and sixth round picks this year,
number one on one and number two thirty seven of
first next year, and a second in two thousand twenty
four to the Eagles in exchange for two first number
sixteen and number nineteen this year. And it's six number
one this year. And that concludes are multiple mid round,
mid first round draft pick and other round draft pick
(17:08):
trades between the Saints and the Eagles. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, somebody explaining to me, what the Brady you
got it? I couldn't understand when I read it, and
I've I've seen it. I was like, I hope Brady
got it because I can't explain it. What's happening here? Um? Yeah.
So if you look at essentially what the Eagles did
(17:31):
is they probably felt like with three first round picks,
it's not that they can't afford them. That is part
of that is part of the logic to it, right, Like,
you're gonna be coming up on three guys who you're
gonna have to figure out whether or not you need
to extend them all at the same time. Right, that
can be difficult. I think one of the thoughts too is,
you know, if if you're looking at this draft, they
(17:54):
might be saying, hey, dude, we're stuck. You know, in
between ten and twenty, there's not really you know, three
guys we feel like you're gonna come in right away
and either A make the roster, make the impact we're
hoping they're going to make, So why not push it
a year from now? Um? And and but that way
we can kind of balance out our our draft and
our ability to go grab a couple of good players
(18:15):
we feel really good about, or package those two together,
whether this year or next year, and be able to
then move up to take a player we really feel
good about. Like that's the reality of it with any
of these picks, is you want to be able to
find someone that's gonna be a starter your roster for
a decade, right, Like that's the hope you're able to
(18:35):
find in all this. What I don't really understand is
why now. I mean, you have so much time before
the draft. Usually when you see these sorts of trades happened,
it's maybe the week of the day before. You know,
you kind of wait to search out to see if
if this is the best offer, and you push to
that draft deadline in order to do it. So my
(18:58):
only thought to why this happened now is that maybe
either Philly is trying to work on something, or New
Orleans trying to work on something to create a package
to get something or someone else, or maybe maneuver even
higher up the draft board. Who knows, But you know,
I think this is um, it's an interesting move by
Philly and hopefully people understand this too. When you trade
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a future draft pick, um the team that's receiving that
doesn't look at that future draft pick today. So the
first rounder that Philly receives, they don't look at that
first rounder today as a first round pick. They view
it today as a second round pick, if that makes sense,
and second round picked if he was a third round pick.
(19:45):
And it's because the immediacy of having that pick now
holds more weight or value to not only the team
that's using that pick, but also any other team that
needs that pick to go draft a player. Right, And
so that's the other thing about this is is when
you look at it and you're like, all right, you
know they gave up one of their first round picks
for a future first round pick. It's that kind of
(20:06):
even swapped there. It's really not. If you talked to
a lot of front office executives, they will not view
it that way. They will say, now it's more like
a second round pick, and then that second round picks
more like a third round pick. So that's typically how
a lot of these teams behind closed doors view future
picks in these trades and draft compensation. If that makes sense.
It didn't to me, but I'll say this, okay, time
(20:30):
value of money, all right, a dollar today is worth
more than a dollar tomorrow. Does that make sense to you?
Rather have tomorrow is worth more than a dollar today
because of it? No, because it loses out on the
opportunity to an interest, and obviously you lose out on inflation.
So very similar to that, you know, the immediacy of
having that now cash now is more valuable than having it.
(20:51):
You know, that's that same amount which we're talking about
in the future. Thank you, Yeah, I get it. I
get that. Yeah. I'll just say this. I don't get
why you would give up two first rounders and only
got one out of the deal. That's that's to me,
fundamentally speaking where I live in, I guess the world
(21:12):
of what my sensibility is and practicalities of of of
using it. I don't get it. I don't get why
you would give up one. Because you again, regardless of
of of that reasoning, that one is is a two,
two is a three. You still gave up to two ones.
(21:33):
I mean, granted one is offset by the other, but
it's even a lower it's an even a lower draft pick,
right like the one Philly gave up with sixteen they
got eighteen. They got eighteen, which was higher than their nineteen,
which was part higher than their nineteen. They give up
the nineteen and there's and they have their original it
(21:54):
was a fifteen or thirteen or so whatever the other
one was. Yeah, I just I don't know, and I
guess because I'm more well, I'm not a front office guy,
for one, but then for two, I just I just
think that you can never have too much talent. And
if you're gonna have to do redo a contract like
(22:14):
by eighteen nineteen, that's not a that's not a tremendously
large contract. Maybe if it's a quarterback, it's it's a
decent size based off of whatever that slotting is for QB.
But I don't I don't know that those those numbers
are that high for that number of a pick. Why
not get somebody that can possibly either turn into trade value,
(22:37):
turns into a possible franchise guy. Maybe someone who plays
a role that helps your team win more. This is
not a team that is good enough to be taught.
You know, well, we'll defer this one until this time,
and we'll make sure that we plan for this one
two years and three years from now, Philly. You're not
good enough to do that so I don't understand why
(23:00):
they're not being aggressive, And maybe they are. I just
don't get it. Maybe it's outside of my realm of understanding,
But why are you not being more aggressive about trying
to get as much talent as you can? And if
that's leveraging those draft picks. I want something that shows
me I have the value I get, uh, Davonte Adams.
I get a player that can come in and and change,
(23:23):
you know, a Tyreek kill. Why not put those those
picks on Tyreek Hill. Here's what I've seen that's been
speculated from the New Orleans standpoint why they would do
the deal to get up to sixteen. Now, it's because
they are. One of the things that was thrown out
there is well, maybe they felt like they needed to
jump the Chargers at seventeen so that way they could
(23:44):
guarantee their guys gonna be there. Dude, we're talking about
the middle of the first round. We have no idea
who the hell is gonna be there, Like, like, this
isn't a top two situation where you know who's going
number one, So just trade up to two so you
can ice out whoever's picking it three. It's the middle
of the first round. We have no idea how this
whole does. Two Orleans have to justify anything like they won.
They won the trade that like to me, just at
(24:06):
a glance, they they won that. That just to be clear,
I mean, the Eagles still have to first correct. They
only they only gave up one this year in order
to have an additional one next year and then move
up a little bit with their second one of the
first round this year and add in a fourth and
sixth round pick this year. So but they did lose
(24:30):
a first round pick, right, did not? They got a
future one next year, So it's even Yeah, as as
far as on paper, the way it looks that they
swapped it just like I said before, where where it
didn't make as much sense as they're taking a future
first round pick that in the short term as of today,
right now, it's looked more like a second round pick.
(24:50):
As far as the value scales you look at when
you're in the front office, that makes more sense. I
thought they gave up two first rounders and didn't get
to and return That's how I read they got. They
got the number eight, so they still have the number
fifteen pick and the number eighteen pick. In this year's
first round. Then they got New Orleans first round pick
(25:11):
in and a second round pick in as well as
the fourth and sixth round pick this year from the Saints,
so they did get a good amount of of consideration.
I just think it plays in the first thing you said, LaVar,
I don't I don't know that you want, you know,
three guys in the first round that you're you're trying
to have hits on if you don't love all of them,
(25:31):
and in the middle of the first round, you know,
I don't know, I don't know how many of those
guys are saying like, yeah, we absolutely love this draft class.
We love what's gonna be potentially be there, because to
Jonas's point, they don't know what's gonna be there. There's
there's there's no idea you can know how the rest
of the draft is going to go. And so maybe
they maybe they're thinking their heads, hey, let's go ahead
(25:51):
and plan more for the future so we can have
more sustained maybe success either building around Jalen Hurts or
have in the draft capital in the future to trade
up to replace him. Like, I think that's more of
what this is about. From Philly standpoint this this roster
is is loaded to the point where it hurts, has
(26:11):
another opportunity to prove whether or not he's the guy.
But guess what if he's not? Bryce Young c J. Stroud.
They all sitting there waiting, and I guarantee you, I
don't know which one it will be that will go
in this order. I guarantee you they're gonna go one
to the next year's draft. I guarantee that it's a
two pros and a cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports
Radio coming up twelve minutes from now. An awful way
(26:34):
to lose one million dollar. It's just a terrible way
to lose it. We will talk about that for you
here in another edition of incase you missed it here
on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, so here's the why
you guys can speak on this better than anybody. You've
both had concussions, correct playing in the NFL football. Alright.
I'm just I'm just saying, well, no, I'm just I
don't think it's that personal. What do you mean, well,
(26:56):
because you haven't had a concussion, Well, I help you
out though, I'm well, and I appreciate that an experience.
I mean, I feel threatened. So this is please, somebody, please,
What do you mean you well, listen to radio. We
(27:22):
could be whoever we want to be. How do you
know I'm not Jamaican? You know what I mean? Like
stopping very good. So here's why I asked the question.
Um Brady Mannik, who was Chris came in stunt double.
He was in the game last night for North Carolina
and he took an elbow to the face in the
(27:42):
first half, and there are people that just automatically assumed
by the way he fell that he had a concussion.
And then North Carolina was getting a little bit of
heat on social media because it didn't appear like he
was put through the concussion protocol. But I'm a little
confused because he came back and he was hitting shot
and he played the whole rest of the game. And
I'm just trying to figure out why it is people
(28:04):
think they can diagnose a concussion from their couch while
watching a professional sporting event. Well, why why do we
are watching a sporting event in general, collegiate or professional?
Why do we just assume we know what the hell
of concussion looks like? Levels? There's different levels of being
concussed you know, there they can be functional as as
someone who's been concussed. If it's a severe concussion, that's
(28:27):
that's very different in nature in terms of the visual
of it, that you can see it like there's something
visually wrong with the person they're impaired. But in terms
of if if you get you know, dinged, as we've
we've called it, if you get your bell wrung or whatever,
(28:47):
you can actually clear up pretty quickly. And and so
it just depends. I mean, if he did, you know,
shake hisself loose a little bit, um, I know I
didn't see it. I didn't see any symptoms of it
in terms of just it being visibly noticeable. But I mean,
make no mistake about it. Until concussions became a thing
(29:11):
that that people were made aware of, it's commonplace to
get a concussion and keep going. It was commonplace. The
only way you didn't come back is if it was
too severe for you to be able to actually even
you know, like know who you are operate as as
a person. That's the only times I mean, I'll put
(29:33):
it this with my experience of concussions, and I kind
of had a varying degrees, right, And as I've told
you guys, I was so ignorant to seeing stars and
what that meant, Like, I never knew what that meant.
And I finally, after having a pretty severe concussion UM
about ten years ago, I end up going to Pittsburgh
talk to Dr Maron, who was the guy as a
(29:54):
neurologist who really you know him, and Mickey Collins. They
started the Impact Test. The Impact test is what most
athletes now take as their baseline tests to determine whether
or not they're concussed and whether or not they're they're
able to recover and ready to go back to play.
And I remember talking to him. I was like, gosh,
I felt so stupid because I never realized like I
(30:16):
was describing what what happened after I got hit and
he goes, oh, you saw stars. I was like it
was the first time someone had basically said to me like, yeah,
that's what that is. Man. So UM, to LaVar's point,
you could have varying degrees of it where you know,
you might be absolutely knocked out, and I think we
all have seen that and witness that. There might be
other times where it's glancing blows where it doesn't hit
(30:38):
you right away. UM, where the the onset of things
that come light sensitivity, You start to get a headache,
started gett nauseous. Those things come later on, um and
and and you really can't connect back to what it was.
I mean, I remember my sophomore year playing a game
where I played almost the entire thing up until the
drive we had to go ahead. Then they took me
out as our defense, you know, was able to get
(31:00):
off the field and seal the game. And I remember,
I don't remember anything the second half, you know. And
I remember waking up in the infirmary on campus and
people ask me questions the five things I was supposed
to remember all this stuff, and I was so disoriented.
Yet I had been awake the entire time. I just
had no recollection of it. So there's some crazy moments
with all that. It's it's just let me look at
(31:21):
the end of the day. It's Twitter. Because I'm not
sure if you know this. You have to have a
medical degree in order to be able to get a
Twitter handle and then give your opinion or advice about
medical injury injuries. Uh, it could be investing advice. I mean,
I'm not sure if you realize this, but Twitter seems
to be the place to go when you're an expert,
even though you have zero zero requirements as far as
(31:45):
what you actually need from an educational segree. It's great.
You can just kind of skip the line. You don't
have to go to medical school. You just skip the line,
a log into Twitter and away we go. Not get
that sentimental way. I'll tell you that one. That one
was good. You nailed it from start of Fennish Wire
to wire. Baby. If you you want to go talk
to people who have like in depth knowledge on things,
(32:07):
go to to Twitter, go to school. All right, now,
go on right now? Oh man, it is Two Pros
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in case you missed it. Kansas was the four point favorite,
and betters are furious that they were not able to
get that inbounds in because they were not able to cover.
And one Better put a cold one million dollars down
on the minus four. It sounds like a gag job
to me. Yeah, that's a bad who put a million dollars? Now? Yeah?
(34:18):
One better? Oh, one Better? That's his name? One Better, alright,
I mean, they don't accompany your name with everybody, mad.
I just figured if it made hit lines, they'd have
a person's name, you know, and maybe it's one Better. Um,
here's so first night, one last name better. So he
was expecting that that Kansas was gonna go go and
(34:41):
hit two free throws and he was going to cover
his I mean, at some at some point, don't you
want to hedge your bet? Don't you want to hedge
your bet, put a little bit of coin on the opposite.
Some people just feel good sometimes when they put that
type of I mean, don't you imagine you gotta feel
some type of good to put a million I don't
(35:01):
care how much money you have. I don't care if
you're an Elon Muskie. Right to put a million dollars
down on a single bet you're feeling some type of way. Yeah,
I'm with LaVar. I mean you're you're probably feeling some
sort of high where you think you I don't know,
But in this case, man, I just I don't know
(35:24):
what you wanted to describe it as. I mean, some
of us told you yesterday Kansas would win, but they
wouldn't cover you know, Hunter over unders. I mean, listen
to if he was a listener to this show, he
would have known that. I that I told you the under.
I don't think you want anything else, but thank you, man,
million dollar better. Um you guys, In case you missed yesterday,
(35:47):
we were talking about Frank Gore retiring. Um well, he's
actually gonna make his professional boxing debut on May fourteenth,
which just happens to be his thirty ninth birthday. But
they lost yeah, to a basketball player, and that was
an exhibition belt, but this will be an actual professional
debut went poorly, why not just turn professional? This is
(36:08):
a This is a terrible idea. I just this is
what I worry about with professional athletes, especially jumping into
this is I would imagine Frank Gore has suffered a
number of headaches, and that's not helping the situation there
in boxing. I mean, obviously the exhibition bout wasn't good,
(36:29):
and now you're gonna jump into the ring professionally. I
don't know who's advising him, who's you know, talking to
it in all this. I don't know what his personal
situation is, but you'd have to think that somewhat dire,
right if he needs to do professional boxing in order
to drive an income and he's played sixteen years in
the NFL. I hope that's not the case. I hope,
he hop I just hope he's just like a classic
(36:51):
workhorse man, like some dudes just gotta be doing stuff
like I'll be looking at and I'm sure some people
look at me the same way, like you do too
much for what you've done in life, and I'm like,
you know, I'm just not gonna put myself in that
type of I do too much. Like I get up,
I get up at one in the morning to do
a radio show at three am, you know what I mean.
(37:13):
Like that's doing too much. Like I could be sleeping,
but I'm not gonna get up to go train to
go box somebody after I played sixteen years of football
and played the way he did, you know, running between
the tackles, and said, I don't know, I wish him
all the all the best, wishing well. I mean, I
know he's really good dude, but man, I'm I'm praying
(37:33):
for his safety in this Man, how much do you
guys you want to take a guess as to how
much he made in his NFL career Frank or you
want to take I got the I'm gonna say he
made over thirty million. I'm gonna say around sixty or
seventy if if we're looking at it from I don't know,
(37:54):
maybe what the contracts tallied, uh, a little over sixty
three million dollars for Frank his NFL career. Well, he's
about thirty after taxes. So I mean, I look at
that and go, man, if you can just invest that
simply if you're taking care of it. You should not
(38:15):
need to do this. So maybe it's just more passion
for him. Yeah, I hope so, because you are your investment,
you are your stock. Every time you make a play,
that's your your share, your your own share. I feel
like there's been they're safer passions to have than a
professional boxing airplane, an archer archery. Yeah, you know paper airplanes,
(38:38):
like do something safe. That is a good that is
a good point. By the way, you're making Iowa Sam
uncomfortable of our every time you say the word gag
wants to dump it. Yeah, he just very uncomfortable with me.
If you if your mind is is somewhere along the
curve of the street, and then that's one thing. But
(38:59):
I mean for me, I'm just talking about you know, sports,
the sports talks. I agree. I don't get it. I
don't know what what's going on here. There's legal terms
that use that for that that word as well. Yeah,
the gag order. Here you go, hello you guys. As
we get closer to the Masters, Tiger Woods practiced again
yesterday night with Fred cos and Justin Thomas. Make it
(39:21):
a Tiger's back, bam bam. He was out there told
Bam Bam Blavar Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, he
won't get that masters, he won't, he won't gag it.
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