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April 13, 2022 38 mins

Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington breakdown the glue protest that almost overshadowed the Timberwolves win over the Clippers in the play-in game. Shady business practices are alleged towards “Little Danny Snyder” and the Washington Commanders. MMQB Senior NFL Reporter Albert Breer has insight on those allegations and breaks down strategy for picking QB’s in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas knocks
on Fox four Radio, how the hell we feeling on
a Wednesday and warning boys, feeling like gluing myself to something?
Yeah thats hey, you know what I'll say this And

(00:26):
for those of you that are just waking up tuning in.
During last night's uh NBA game playing game between the
Timberwolves and the Clippers, a woman was protesting apparently Timberwolves owner.
I guess he's got a like a chicken farm or
something like that, and uh, she was upset that chickens

(00:46):
because there was a bird flew outbreak that that that
he had to murder a bunch of chickens and you
know like that. It's apparently she thought that the move
in order to create awareness during an NBA playing game
was to glue her self to the floor. Yeah. So,
I mean, this whole bird flu thing has been going
on for a while. It is actually a somewhat concerned

(01:08):
just because it impacts our food supply and uh, unfortunately
it sounds terrible to admit this, but look, when you've
got a bunch of bird flu that could, you know,
potentially cause other chickens and were not to be sick.
You gotta take care of it and whatever way possible,
and you don't want to risk human life for a
chicken life. I think I think we'd all admit that,

(01:28):
or maybe you wouldn't. I don't know. Some people wouldn't.
There's a lot of people who eat chicken, and there's
a lot of people that want to see those chicken
live and and would be okay with a person going
instead of that chicken. Now that's a problem. That is Yeah,

(01:49):
that's I mean, that's the way this works. I mean, now,
sure Peter was thrilled with this. And now Ali La
Force is a she's the reporter for t NT. She
was there at the game. She's a phenomenal job and
she had to actually give the report after it happened
during the game, and I thought she handled it as
well as she possibly could. It's worse than graffiti. I
was just pulled by security that she apparently had glue

(02:11):
and she glued herself to the floor and she refused
to lift her wrist up. And I don't need to laugh,
but this really happened. She glued her wrist to the
floor and they were trying to pull her off and
she was resisting. So there I wonder if her skin,
if any skin, stayed on the floor, and then will
there be an issue with that where will there be

(02:33):
any blowback from her supporters? See, I don't know if
she was able to keep it there long enough for
it to stay and what and what what type of
glue are we talking about here? Is it one of
those glue sticks from I don't really care about that.
You know what I feel bad for that those little
guys who got to come out and scrub the floor
when someone falls or its slick or something else. Guess
what happens now? Now those guys are trying to, you know,

(02:55):
scrub with their mom, make sure it's all safe and
clean for the players, and then their mom is gonna
get stuck on this stuff. There's gotta be some residue
or something from that. I mean, that's who I feel
bad for. You always see those guys going out there, hustling,
doing their job, doing what they're asked to do. That's
who I feel bad for. I feel bad for that
human being on each end of the court well as

(03:15):
the official adhesive expert here at Fox Sports Radio, I
can assure you there's a difference between like an Elmer's
glue and a crazy glue. So if it's just Elmer's glue,
gets an issue, So it just depends on which which
directions you wanted to But if it's super glue, then
those guys with those those tools, they don't have what
they need to get that off. You know, I would

(03:37):
assume that it would have to be something of the
crazy glue um level for her to do a successful
protest and them not to be able to remove her.
So that there's that how did they how did they
get that up? Have you guys ever used gorilla glue,
which is a phenomenal Ah said doing issue is if
you don't use it, you lose it because it's it's

(04:00):
like cajils, so you can't use it after a certain
period of time after you open it. So you've actually
got to like use it relatively fast. Yeah, it's it's
very effective and I feel like we've really done a
lot here as far as glue goes. So again we
are the adhesive actor well adhesive experts here at Fox
Sports Radio. Somebody's got to do it. It's a title
nobody wanted, and we gladly will take it. I'll say

(04:21):
this though, in this day and age where everybody's so
unoriginal with how they want to make a protest and
run onto the court or field and make a scene
in a spectacle, I don't recall anybody ever glue in
themselves to the floor. So at least there's an originality
aspect to it. And then I commended to for it.
You know, I thought it was brilliant. It went viral,
you know, we're talking about it this morning. And the
best part is all those chickens have now been brought

(04:43):
back to life that we're mission accomplished. I mean, murder animal.
I'm just asking, I'm I'm okay, what do you have
for dinner last night? That some yes, yes, chicken? And

(05:10):
this almost overshadowed like an unbelievable performance by Anthony Edwards,
and it was. And I will say this, Um, there's
gonna be a lot of jokes that were made, because
there were jokes that were made immediately after it happened.
And I'm not trying to piss off our friends listening. Uh,
And I would normally call the blow tours, but since
it's the Twin Cities, our friends on CA fan I'm

(05:32):
gonna call the yaller Horn of the Twin Cities. I
don't want to piss them off because they have been
made fun of because of the way the Timberwolves handled
the celebration after they won that game last night on
tables getting get excited. Patrick Beverley could go off. He
was there for four years. I know, but it's a
playing game. I didn't expect heres. Thank you got crying.

(05:53):
I got a shot. I mean Carl Anthony Towns did
not play with He did not any means, fouled out
in the fourth. And then you've got two other guys young.
You know, well Anthony Everwards is young, but you know
they played as a team. Like give him some credit.
Like there's something too that I love seeing that. I
love seeing emotions of sports, even as at the professional level,

(06:14):
because it shows you they cared. Man. It just I
don't know, do we consider that a playoff game? I
mean alright, because some people would say, well, it's not
really a playoff game. It's a play in game, and
the playoffs start after you make it to this point.
So you're playing off for something, are you not? Yeah?

(06:35):
I guess, but I just look at it and I
think it's or go home. You would have another opportunity
because the seven eight matchup, they will play the nine
ten matchup with the loser, and they would have an
opportunity to have another opportunity. But they're in there playing Memphis,
I believe, right. Yeah, So you don't think that it's
like a little bit at the top, you know, a
little bit like the tears, the crying, Like actually think

(06:59):
it's this is good for the NBA, like and creates
more intrigue, more people watching to see what exactly happens.
And um no, look, I love seeing emotions at sports
like these guys put a lot into this. And I
think when you're Patrick Beverley and you have the opportunity
to potentially knock out a team that used to play for,
I mean it's about it. Is he the best agitator

(07:20):
in the NBA? Like, if there's one person you don't
want to go to a bar with because it's gonna
end up in a fight, it's him, or it's him
Remarcus Smart, him Ormarcus Smart. I would say, are the
top two as far as guys that just irritate and
looks he's still friendly with with some guys on the
Clippers like him and Marcus Morris embraced after the game,

(07:41):
but like you would have thought they hated each other.
Like he's phenomenal and just his story, like knowing like
how how hard he had to work to even get
a shot in the league and to see where he's at.
And I mean it is infectious. Those guys were celebrating,
you know, pretty excitedly and jumping on the tables, as
Brady pointed out, some congratulations of the tim It's real, right,

(08:02):
like come on, it's you don't get many opportunities to
celebrate that. And and it's not like, you know, we
haven't seen teams to make a little bit of a run,
you know from the play games, Jonus, how many times
have you had an opportunity to be in a plane? Uh? Well,
I refused to like I had. I had plenty of
opportunities when I was a child, And I said, you
know what, I don't want to go that route. I
want to do radio. And it's not technically true. Yeah,

(08:25):
I mean we kind of had, you know, some plans
to get to this spot. See I'm not committed that
that is a very good point, by the way, months
worth of the plans. It definitely was uh, you know,
a lot of a lot of part time jobs on
the side to get to this point. Um. But look,
I'm not I'm not committed either way on on whether

(08:48):
or not I think it was a little bit over
the top. I just was curious, you know it did
it did seem it did seem a lot for you know,
just uh, an opportunity to go continue your playoff dreams
like it just felt like, you know, I felt like
a lot. You know. It reminded me that sort of emotion.
Reminded me the type of emotion that comes out of
you anytime you hear any song that you're disgusted by.

(09:10):
It was kind of similar, well do you want to
hear from Pat Beverley. He went to a social media
afterwards and wanted to just again celebrate more after the
playing win for the Timberwolves. Here he was again, they're
all friends. Look, they seem like it. Um now as

(09:36):
out here in Los Angeles, the l A Rams got
buried for their lack of a Super Bowl parade because
it looked like there were like fourteen people there. So
if this is a preview as to what a title
is gonna look like and a and a parade is
gonna look like in Minnesota. I'm all in. I am
all in if this is what we get as far
as a preview goes when that comes around. So again, congratulations, man,

(09:57):
not trying to poke fun. I'm just asking questions. It
did feel a bit over the top. How's l A
feeling right now? I mean, I know they still technically
have a chance, you know, I mean, but the good
news when it comes to the city of Los Angeles
is that, you know, the Dodger season has started off,
so they've gotten are underway. That is their their last

(10:19):
glimmer of hope when it comes to potentially winning another title.
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I Heart Radio LaVar Um. Look, man, uh, I'm not

(10:41):
trying to bring up old stuff, all right, but when
people think Washington Football team slash Commandos slash team's name,
who we can't say on the air else we might
get fired. Uh, they think about LaVar Arrington like they
think about sticks, they think about number two overall, they
think about three probe holes like they think about RFK Stadium,

(11:02):
they think about funny I never played in r Well listen,
but it's it's certainly not the first thing you think
about when you think about that team. But okay, well, um,
you may not be thinking about Daniel Snyder anymore because
apparently thinking about Dan Snyder when you hear that name, well,
you might not for very much longer because famous, you

(11:23):
get in you got to add that I N before
you you say famous. Yeah. The the US House Oversight
and Reform Committee said that they they basically have discovered
years of shady activity on the ticket front um and
the district shady well millions of dollars in security deposits, uh,

(11:44):
you know, being uh you know, kept away from people
that probably would like to have that money at some point.
And then also two different financial books were being kept.
There was one that was shown to the NFL showing
their shared revenue, but then there was another one and
by the way that it include under reported numbers so
they didn't have to report everything. And then there was
a second book that was shown to just Daniel Snyder. Uh.

(12:07):
So basically they were stealing and um, people are are
seeing this. Uh the reporting on it is pointing to well, uh,
this may be what we're looking at here. So dead
man Walking could be for Daniel Snyder, not literally but figuratively,
because we've been wondering what was it going to take
for uh, the final nail in the coffin of his

(12:30):
time as an NFL owner, And it looks like this
maybe at so you know what, you know, For for me,
I just want an apology. You know, all of these
things coming out. I literally was the first one that
spoke on what was going on, and I don't I

(12:52):
don't want to pad on the back. I don't. I don't,
you know, I don't need to think about if if
I could follow law suit against this, this guy, against this,
against the team. I love the city, love the fans,
always loved the team. I just didn't like the way
the owner did business. And I and I talked about it,

(13:15):
and you know what, there were so many things that
that happened, right, so many things that were said about me,
the way things were handled with the media, the way
the way Joe Gibbs handled things the way the way
Greg Williams handled things the way. I mean, everybody was
getting in on on just having this dismissive I'm upset

(13:38):
because I'm not playing. I'm I'm too dumb to learn
a playbook. There's all these things being said over a
contract situation that I didn't have anything to do with.
I just would like to have an apology, like I would.
I would love to have a an official public apology,

(14:00):
because you know what, It's strained my relationship with with
the city. It it in a lot of ways. It
derailed my career because I didn't want to play anymore.
It was so difficult dealing with those conditions. It just took.
It took the love. It sucked the love out of

(14:23):
you to want to go to work every day and
want to get better and want to get right. It
just it was. It was. It was a difficult, difficult task,
a difficult challenge. And I'm sure a lot of people
have shared those sentiments for a really, really long time.

(14:44):
You know, we were talking. I heard the promo on
you know with Doug Gottlie you talking about the class
action lawsuit and and the complaints that were taking place
and different things like that. You know, honestly speaking, the
class action lawsuit that should have been taking place should
have been Washington then known as the the that Team. Um,

(15:09):
it should have been employees of of that place, and
and and it's it's like, for the longest time, it's
everyone else. It's always something else, it's always everyone else,
and now it's starting. I don't I don't know why
it's Daniel Snyder. I don't, you know, because it's not
like I'm the only player that's ever complained about an

(15:31):
organization or complained about how they were treated or talked
about it. I don't want to say I was complaining.
I shed light on it, but it would be interesting
to know or try to figure out why is all
of this coming out on him? It, I mean, it
just seems to be piling up. It's a snowball effect,
and it just makes me wonder for all these years

(15:53):
that I've watched to take place like and I mean
it's taking place. I mean for me, I saw it
early on in the two early two thousand's, but it
was about like two thousand three, two thousand four where
it got really really interesting and you started really being
able to see it. I'm just wondering, why now is

(16:14):
it such an intensified approach or focus on Daniel Snyder.
I feel like there's something there. Yeah, I mean there's
obviously a lot there. Um. It just it feels like
the perfect storm um from all angles, from you know
whatever when it was your time and things that you

(16:35):
saw witnessed or RG three other players who've talked about it,
um you know now leading in from some things in
regards to the cheerleaders, whether it's the team name, it's
just always something. I think the most definitive sign should
have been where minority owners like wanted out. How many
minority owners of NFL franchises do you hear that? Like

(16:59):
literally one out or asked to being bought out. Are
trying to get out any way they can from the situation.
I don't know anyway, who was a minority owner of
the NFL franchise that's like trying to get out. Like
I remember there was a guy who was a minority
owner for the Rams. This is back when we're in St. Louis,

(17:20):
And I don't know what he got in or how
much he added it. I've never had the chance to
meet him, but I Remember he was always walking around.
He's so happy to be there, so so happy to
be a part of the team and have a steak.
I've and it couldn't have been much, I'll put it
that way. Um, he was a very down there. It
seemed like a nice guy. But people aren't running away

(17:46):
from having a steak, majority minority whatever it is. In
If in an NFL franchise and you had minority owners
who were behind the scenes running in the opposite direction,
that's just unheard of. It really is unheard of in
the NFL, let alone most professional sports. So I think

(18:07):
that was some of the tea leaves to like there
was a bigger issue here, and you know, those guys
weren't gonna try to be in the crossfire of of
little Danny Snyder. But you know, now now that everyone's
kind of surrounding him and and there's really nowhere for
him to go, this will be it, and this franchise
will most likely have to be sold. It seems extremely damning,

(18:31):
and it seems like there's too much at this point
for him to be able to overcome. I mean, just
get like skimming money, like just holding you know, like
two different you know, accounting books like it just like
the whole thing. There was somebody who described it said, like,
you listen to the details of how this whole operation
was run, it sounds like something off The Godfather, like
just so shady. So here's the hard part is when

(18:55):
you have to report. If you're a publicly traded company, right,
and you've got to report what you send into the
I r s and what you actually feed out the
two shareholders to the market could technically be two different
financial reports and statements and how you prepare them. So
keep that in mind in regards to like with public

(19:16):
and trading companies. Now, the NFL is not necessarily that
is a privately owned organization, but there is that with
in the business world as far as accounting standards. You know,
it's it's not exactly it's like it's one size fits
all for the type of books that you're keeping and
what you're submitting out there. And I don't know if
they're gonna have some sort of flimsy excuse like that

(19:38):
and find their way around this. It seems unlikely. But
that is an actual thing, you know. It's not like
you just have one accounting books and all right, this
is this is a ledger as we're keeping everything you
you do, report and file different depending on like who
you're talking about and who you're you're presenting it to.
So if he doesn't lose the team after this, that

(20:02):
then clearly what we've been speculating for months that he
must have something really heavy on the league. That's clearly
got to be the case because everyone's looking at this
going it's one thing to do all of these other
you know, have all these other you know, scandals or
investigations or whatever throughout the course of your time as
an owner. But then when you're stealing from your fellow

(20:24):
owners basically and and and from season ticket holders and
not being you know, truthful with what you know how
much you're making. Like if he still is the owner
the of the Commandos after all this, dude, he's got
to have something like there's got to be something more
here because everybody's looking at this as the death knel
for Dan Snyder in his time. But I will say this,
if he does have to sell the team, you know,

(20:45):
Jeff Bezos is going to be one of the first
to try and bid on this team because he's a
from the area. He's I think he's the owner of
the Washington Post up a not mistaken Bezos has got
the money. We all know that, which means a crank
shuttle to each game starring Jeff Bezos, which I think
is gonna be phenomenal. Crank Stadium. He's gonna turn the
Washington Monument into a crash. Great point, is LaVar? What

(21:11):
should they renamed stadium? Crank Stadium crank stadium dot com. Yes, so,
so there's that. So we will keep you posted on
as to whether not Little Danny Snyder is uh is
the owner. I've been told by eyewitnesses that back in

(21:32):
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We turned it over to Albert Brier, senior NFL reporter
for the mm QB. You can get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. Albert, how's everything. How's your Wednesday? Good? Good?
How you guys doing? We're good? Um? How is this
gonna be? Uh? Are we pretty much wrapping up the

(22:38):
Dan Snyder air in Washington? How's this going to play
out with the latest results that came out from the
House Oversight Committee UM in their report to the Federal
Trade Commission. Yeah, well it's not good. I mean, obviously
there's you know, specifics in there that we lacked before.
And um, you know the fact that he was positioning
ticket revenue for those who haven't heard it, positioning ticket

(23:01):
revenue that would normally be shared among the thirty two teams,
um as having come from a Notre Dame Navy game
and a Kenny Chesney concert. So now there's something concrete there, um,
you know, and I think, you know, like it's gonna
be interesting to see that the way the next few
months play out because I don't think the owners want
to be put in a position where they have to

(23:22):
vote someone out, because I don't think they want that
precedent set. Quite frankly, like I don't want I don't
think they want to have like a protocol there in
place where you know that the other thirty one teams
are taking one owner's team away. Um. I think what
they would prefer to do is that Daniel Snyder's somehow
step aside and sell the team the way that Jerry

(23:43):
Richardson did. UM. I think what we've learned over the
last two years is that's gonna take a lot to
get to the point where Snyder is gonna be forced
to do that. And so what I think you're going
to see over the next few months is a lot
of pressure put on Snyder, um, whether it's subtle or otherwise,
by the other teams and the league office to try
to force him to sell. Um. Again, I don't think

(24:04):
that they wanna, you know, be in the position where
they have to vote him out because you know, again,
like I don't think that other owners want to have
anybody digging through their trash or finding stuff on them
where they might be forced to sell their own teams. Um,
And you know, we'll see if that works. We'll see
if over the next few months Snyder comes to the

(24:24):
point where he feels compelled to sell the team. I
do think that we're gonna hear more and more over
the next couple of months. Though. That's gonna put Snyder
in a position where he might be forced to sell
the team. And I don't think that that's going to
be an unintentional thing. Albert, what does he have on
Roger Goodell or other owners? Like, how does he still
have this team? I'm serious, Like, there's no way this

(24:47):
guy should still be owning a team, given not even
just this, but even the past stuff that's come out.
How is this possible? But I'm telling you that's it, Brady,
Like they don't want to they don't want to be like,
they do not want to create a precedent for taking
each other's teams away. Um And again, like I think,

(25:08):
you know, like when you know you're looking at guys
of that sort of wealth, a lot of people have
dirt under their fingernails, you know, and and a lot
of people, I think, you know, could be put in
this sort of position. And so like I think they
would rather him again do what Jerry Richardson did, where
you know, Jerry Richardson a lot of people think he
was forced to sell the team. Like in that situation,

(25:30):
it was more like like okay, like like I've like
brought brought a lot of a lot of negative light
onto the league, and I'm going to step aside because
that's what's best for everybody. Dan Snyder was never gonna
do that, you know, Like when Dan Snyder went through
the name changed situation, obviously everything with the workplace environment, um.

(25:52):
You know. I think that there were a lot of
people who felt like, eventually it's going to get to
the point where it's gonna be untenable for Dan Snyder.
And we've seen that he's got a lot of tolerance
for um Shane brought onto him, you know, And so
like I I think part of it is, you know,
part of it here is certainly that um, you know,
the other owners do not want to vote one of

(26:15):
their own out um, and they want, you know, they
want Sighter to do this on his own, um. You know.
And I think part of it too, you know, like
you said, Brady, is that he probably he probably does
have stuff on the other guys, you know, and then
and I'm sure that like there is some level of
fear that if they kick him out of the club,
then all of a sudden, you know, a lot of

(26:36):
dirty laundry is gonna be air. Can I ask us
a stupid question? And anybody can chime in on it's
not just you, uh, but you know such thing as
a stupid question, LaVar, you're this one might be. I
don't know. But if all, like, let's just say, for
the sake of saying, the vast majority of the owners

(26:58):
have something on them that if you doug for it,
it would be an offense that would require selling the team.
If all of these teams were sold, I mean, how
does that work when when I mean they created, these families,
created the NFL, So how would that? How would that?

(27:21):
How does that work? At some point? Is it, I mean,
let's just say, for the sake of of discussion that
all these teams had to sell their teams. I mean,
is it just business as usual? Or I mean is
that considered like a hostile tech takeover? Or I'm trying
to understand if if Pandora's box opens, Dan has to

(27:42):
sell Boom the dominoes start following where other people got
to sell their teams based off of team is Is
it just now the franchises stand alone. They're not connected
to the families that created the league that is now
what it is today. I don't think we're ever get
to the point where there's gonna be this enormous domino
effect and you're gonna have twenty teams for sale. Um,

(28:05):
you know, but I think you know what we're seeing now,
And you know it's not just with Washington, you know,
we're you know, I think in Miami, like it's worth
you know, at least keeping an eye on what's happening
with Steven Ross there in the Flores case, and um,
you know, the potential, the potential out there that like
that that they may have been you know, inducing the
you know, the the like that the owner may have

(28:27):
been inducing the coach and the general manager, the tank.
You know, we've seen some of that stuff with the
Browns and Hugh Jackson too. Um. You know, like, I
don't think we're ever going to get to a point
where they're gonna be fifteen or twenty teams on the
market at once. But you know, I think what you're
seeing here is you know, certainly, I think that there's
more transparency I think desired from the public on the

(28:50):
way these guys operate, and the NFL has becomes so
big now that it is of interest to people in
the public how these workplaces operate, how these guys came
into their wealth, Um, you know. And I think in
a lot of cases, you know, we're when you when
you when you when you when you look inside and
you're starting to look at how the sausage is made,
maybe you don't like what you're looking at as much,

(29:11):
you know, and so um, you know, I think that's
sort of where we are. And that's you know, like
again like it's just you know, it's the way these
things come to light. You know, it happens in different ways,
you know. But over the last couple of years, I
do think that you know, we because you know, the
public desires that transparency into the way these teams are

(29:32):
run and the way that these workplaces operate, and the
way these guys came into their wealth. We're learning more
about it, and that's what's putting these guys in this position. Um.
But I think there will always be I think there
will always be buyers for the team, and I don't
know that it's going to necessarily affect the overall health
of the league. Um, you know, as I see it,

(29:53):
at least, um, you know, it's it's there are very
few businesses that you can buy into where you're guaranteed profit,
and buying an NFL team is one of those things
where at a baseline, you're the very least gonna make money,
and you could wind up making a ton of money.
And so I think for that reason, the week sort

(30:14):
of insulated from, you know, a situation where if five
or six teams were to go for sale at once,
that would really rock the overall stability of the of
the NFL. Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. Get him on Twitter
at Albert Brier. Albert, is there any draft storyline that

(30:35):
is most interesting to you as we approach the draft
in a couple of weeks. We've seen obviously trades that
have happened, things like that, But what is one to
watch for you that you're curious about. I mean, I
think the first thing is a quarterback, you know, and
I just think it's it's what's interesting to me about
this is we have so many examples in the past
of UM quarterback drafts that weren't great, where you had

(30:56):
teams reaching right like I think the eleven class pass
Camp Newton after Cam Newton was an example of that,
in teams reaching for Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbert and
Christian Ponder in two thousand and thirteen the Bills reaching
for EJ. Manuel Um. You know, I think history has
told us that if you if you look at the

(31:17):
history of it like that, if there's not a quarterback
there that's worth going in the first round, then teams
are going to manufacture one. And this seems to be
one of those years. The difference this year is that
we've i think, like teams looking up at the mountain,
it's a little bit more difficult now, Like so you
look up and at the next over the next ten years,

(31:38):
if you're in the a f C, like, what was
your competing is Joe Burrow, Justusin, Herbert, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson. And I think for that reason, we've seen
some teams acknowledge just being good at the position is
not good enough, and so That's why, like the Niners
move up of Garoppolo to get to Trey Lance, That's

(31:59):
why the Rams move up a Jared Goff to get
to Matthew Stafford. And like, that's why I think this
is gonna be such an interesting exercise in what we
saw in the E J Manual year and then the
Christian ponder blame Gabbert Jake Locker year, is you know,
our team is gonna look at Kenny Pickett and Malik
Willis and Matt Corrall and Desmond Ritter and Sam Howe

(32:21):
and say to themselves, if I draft this guy in
three or four years, am I just gonna be looking
at it and saying, I gotta I gotta flip this
guy out again, Like he might be okay, but he's
not good enough to compete with those other guys. So
I think that's the most interesting storyline. Is is this
the year that finally breaks that whole thing where if

(32:41):
there's not a quarterback that's worthy of a first round pick,
the league's gonna manufacture one and teams are going to
reach for one. Albert. It just it makes me wonder, though,
I Mean, at some point there's so many, so there's
only so many Tom Brady's, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen's.
It's not like you're getting that every single year or
even you know, once every five years. So I just

(33:05):
I'm not sure what the strategy is then. I mean, well,
team still wins no matter what we want to say.
As good as Patrick Mahomes is, it didn't win him
Super Bowl. They couldn't beat Cincinnati last year. Like, they
still need something around them. I'll give you something. I'll
give you a good example, though, Brady, Like, look at
how the Chiefs got to Patrick Mahomes. Okay, Like Andy
Reid got there in two thousand and thirteen and they

(33:27):
had the first overall pick and they drafted a left tackle,
Eric Fisher. They didn't draft a they didn't they didn't
They didn't reach for quarterback. That was that was EJ.
Manuel year, Right, what do they do? They went and
got Alex Smith and they went't got Alex Smith. And
what did Alex Smith do from Alex Smith? Bought them time?
Like they could build the team up right, they could

(33:48):
be competitive, they could make the playoffs, and they allowed
them to be patient, to wait for the right opportunity
and then eventually they found a guy they absolutely fell
in love with and Patrick Mahomes, and they went and
got right. And I actually think there are a couple
of teams that are employing that strategy right now with
new head coaches. I think that's what the Raiders are
doing with Josh McDaniels and Derek Carr. I think that's

(34:11):
what the Vikings are doing with Kevin O'Connell and Kirk Cousins.
Where I think, like like Kevin in Minnesota and Josh
and in Vegas are looking at these guys and saying,
I can compete with this guy, and this guy is
gonna give me the leeway to wait until there is
a great young player that I am in love with

(34:32):
and I can go get him. And in the meantime,
all these draft picks I have, I can use them
to build the team up. So whenever I bring a
young quarterback in here, I'm gonna have an ideal situation
for him, the same way Kansas City had an ideal
situation for Patrick Mahomes to walk into. And so I
actually think that that, to me, is a pretty smart
strategy where you're looking at it and you're saying a

(34:54):
Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr can at least make us
competitive right now and give us a chance to establish
something right now, and we can spend our draft picks
elsewhere and we can be competitive now, and we will
worry about the young quarterback equation when a great one,
when one that we absolutely love comes along, rather than

(35:14):
going all in on a kid that maybe we aren't
in love with, right And that's great in theory, but
let's be real. They love Patrick Mahomes. Nine other teams
passed on them. I mean, like, like, what you're portraying
at the part, well, yeah, but what you're portraying out
hold on Albert, Albert, what you're portraying out there is like,
it's a no brainer right now. C J. Stroud, Bryce Young,

(35:36):
and probably Tyler Van Dyke out of the University of Miami,
who's not well known but will be after this year.
Those will probably the first three quarterbacks taken the next
year's draft. And it's no surprise to anyone. So if
I'm like one of those teams you're talking about, Vegas, Minnesota,
You're not gonna be in a position to draft those
guys anywhere close. You have to give up everything to
get them. And even then those teams taking a quarterback

(35:57):
in the top five picks, they're they're not going to
give up that spot to give you that guy. So
here's here's my counter that the Chiefs didn't do it
in the second year. It was their fifth year, like
Andy Reid and John Dorsey like waited five years until
the right opportunity came along, you know. And I just

(36:18):
think like having a placeholder quarterback, which and that's not
in the front to car or cousins, but having a
placeholder where like, you know, you can be competitive with
the guy in the here and the now right Like,
I feel like that like at least gives you the
chance to look in like a four year or five
year window. I think the worst place you can be
in is like predetermining in a single draft that you're

(36:42):
gonna take a quarterback that year. I think that's the
worst position you can be in because that's where these
guys get manufactured. When you decide we are absolutely taking
one this year, no matter what. That's where mistakes get
get get get made. If you're able to kind of
look at it from like a three or four or
five year view and maybe you miss on it. Maybe
you you don't get a guy that you really like,

(37:02):
but you're giving yourself that time, Like you're giving yourself
three or four or five years to find that guy. Well,
then you've got a better chance of getting him right.
And I think that's what the Chiefs did. They bought
themselves five years to find Patrick Mahomes, get him in
the system, developed him, and he started like for the
first time. And Andy Reid's sixth year in Kansas City. Like,

(37:23):
I think that's what Minnesota and Vegas have the opportunity
to do here where like let's be competitive and let's
not overreach, and maybe the quarterbacks in maybe we get
one of them, or maybe it's in. But either way,
we're comfortable with what who we have right now and
eventually will find the right opportunity to get a young

(37:45):
quarterback that we really like. And you know what, Brady,
maybe that's not even in the draft. Maybe that's some
guy who's asking out of some place three years from now.
You know what I mean. You just I just think
giving yourself, giving yourself the sort of like runway to
find mind one. I think it's a huge thing. And again,
like I think the biggest mistake teams make is when

(38:06):
they go into a draft cycle predetermining we're taking a
quarterback this year, come hell or high water. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert always appreciated senior NFL
reporter at the mm QB. Let's do it again next week.
Have a happy Easter to you and yours, and now
we'll talk to sister Buddy. Hey, hey, Lvaro, do you
enjoy the Masters. Yeah? Your Easter, Albert, good stuff. Well,

(38:40):
we'll do it again next week Albert Breer again. Get
him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Fox Sports Radio has
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