April 30, 2022 • 38 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react to Hollywood Brown leaving Lamar Jackson angry and disappointed after his trade to the Arizona Cardinals. Could Trevor Bauer's suspension put more pressure on the NFL to lay the hammer down on Deshaun Watson? The guys discuss draft day perceptions and memories in this Legendary Moment with Super Bowl Champion TJ Ward. Plus, the guys tell you who took the biggest leap over draft weekend!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Another legendary moment coming up for you guys. Super Bowl chat.
T J. Ward will be that man. What a dope dude. Man,
I love hearing from him. The Ravens trade Hollywood Brown,
Lamar Jackson was not happy about that. We'll get bout
some reactions on that and a touchy situation in the topic.
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But nonetheless, this is up on game, so we'll do it.
Does Bower's two years suspension put pressure on the NFL
with the son Watson Man, I can't wait to deal
with that bombshell. All right, our two, it's coming at
you head to head, Riddell to Riddell right now. You
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want NFL experience, then this is the show for you.
This is it's up on game with Labarreritent, t J.
Hush Benzana and blacks at Co Burus. Did you hear that,
LaVar Arrington, t J. Houdgmanzana, Plexico Burrs. It's a show
with three of the best to ever do it on
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and off the field. And now here's Pro Bowlers LaVar Arrington,
t J. Houshman, Sanna and Super Bowl champion Plaxico Burus. Alright, alright, alright,
welcome in the hour or two of the show. You're
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eighty four Plexico Berth, LaVar Arrington, Fox Sports Radio. Listen
on Fox Sports Radio dot Com I Heart Radio Apport
series EG eighty three. A right, hey, listen, guys, As
you heard, we got a lot of league to get to. Uh,
we'll talk to this this Trevor Bower two years mitchet
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deal does just put any pressure on the NFL. I'm
curious to hear what you guys have to say about it.
I know I had my thoughts to my on that. Uh.
But first let's get to our guy, uh t J Ward. Now, now,
t J. You're you have another namesake of t J
Warre uh And and I know you know t J
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um And and plex. I don't know if you if
you know t J. But you know when you talk
to him, he's a very quiet, very very humble dude.
Just just you know, tintoes down, you know the type
of guy. And and what I really enjoyed about talking
with him is just how how open and how straightforward
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he he is about the things that he's passionate about
and what he believes in. And I just always find
myself thinking to myself, you know I have I had
moments of reminiscing, like it's like everybody talks about how
good you are for how long you are, and sometimes
you lose track of what the struggle was like. You know,
when I was growing up, you know, I was told
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my parents were told that I needed to put it
and be put in the special special education classes and
that you know, it wasn't very good at school, and
and I didn't have a good attention span, and you know,
and basically I acted out is what teachers were saying
about me, and and there wasn't a very large amount
of belief in me as I was growing up, and
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I always used to I don't know if I was
aware of it fellas or or if I wasn't that
this is how I was being spoken about. But then
one day my mom and my dad they basically told
me like, look, this is how people are talking about you,
and this is what they think of you. And I'm
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just telling you right now, we believe in you. We
believe in what you can accomplish, but you have to
believe in you, and you have to believe in what
you can accomplish. And and I think I started to
take those steps. Guys like I started to really believe
in what my effort was. I started to believe in
what my dedication to my books were, too, to just
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being what I needed to be as a person. And
it totally changed my whole It just changed my whole
approach and my whole outcomes to life. And it's funny
because I'm often called arrogant. People think I'm self absorbed.
People think I'm arrogant, and they used to bother MEWO.
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I love being I love being self centered. If you
want to call me arrogant, you could call me arrogant.
But what you gotta understand is the things that I've
gone through in my life and what I've experienced, I
had to believe in myself. I had to sink deep
into who I am to be able to accomplish the
things out I was accomplishing t J. T J were
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like he was. He reminded me of this, like I
wasn't always the all American. I wasn't always the the
guy that everybody looks at. And it's like, oh, this
guy he thinks he's that I had to go through
some things. Do you guys recall having any Maybe not
as extreme as as that where people are like trying
to put your special wat glasses, but y'all recall anything
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like in the beginning where something like you, you know,
you were experiencing or dealing with lad to you knowing
that you could be more, you had more value to
you than than what it was that maybe you even
thought you had. I think everybody at some point in time,
you you face that to where you realize you're more
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than what you believe you are. You deserve more than
what you're getting, and you go get it and you
make it happen. I think at some point we all
face that, and you may not realize that you're facing
that at that moment, but when you sit back and reflect,
like we do when we get a little older, and
you're like, ah, this is that forking rotor that this
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was something that I just knew, like I wasn't really
appreciating myself. I really wasn't demanding more of myself. Are
I really wasn't making people appreciate me more. Whatever it was,
we all have come to that point. You just don't
realize it at that time. Mm hmmm, yeah, man. And
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what builds was man playing and simple. You know, I was.
I was a skinny, scrawny kid when I was growing up.
But I love to play football, but the physicality of
my frame wouldn't allow me to you know, going in
and do some of the things that I needed to
do to be successful. I've been When I was fourteen
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years old, I had a situation where I was playing
junior high football and you know, we had like a
run play and I come from where I received it
to block the safety and safety just like completely runs
me over boom makes a tackle in the backfield. And
I actually had my coach come over to me. I
was laying on the ground and he was like, if
I was you, I would never step on the football
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field again. Man. And I remember him telling me that,
and it was it was one of those things when
he told me that. I was like, one day in
the future, I'm gonna make him, gonna make him eat
those words. And it's one of those things that always,
you know, stuck with me. You know. I was, I
was small. I was like a hundred and thirty five
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pounds when I was in junior high school. And then
I grew four inches in a year. I went from
six ft to six four from uh in the in
the in the eighth grade. And now the tables have
turned and I'm no longer this, you know, this scrawny,
skinny kid. And it's just one of those things that
always just stuck with me. Man. You know, he told
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me to do something to to never play football again,
to the game, and I love and I just I
just you know, it inspired me. Man m h Well,
speaking of inspired and and thinking about the guy that
you might have not thought it would be the guy
but ended up did just that the guy. Here's this
week's legendary moment with T. J. Ward. Game Game presents
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conversations with a Lea And now this is your legendary moment,
one that jumps out at me immediately because it was
the biggest hardship I had had it pretty much in
life up to that point. When I my senior year,
I busted my knee up um third game of the year,
and you know, I was my first year started my
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senior year, I was having I was having a prephenomenal season,
had like three picks and three games. You know, I'm
banking on scholarship this year, go need a knee with
a guy fourth game and season and early in the
game and fracture ma pa Tella. You know, so I
wouldn't say it's a divine moment, because you know, I
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I can't say that. I honestly thought I wasn't gonna
play again at that point. But it was more that
people thought that it was over for me, you know
what I'm saying, Like he ain't gonna get to college,
like it's pretty much over. Like so, and I remember
my dad telling people what we were gonna do, like
we're gonna do this, We're gonna walk in the Oregon,
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We're gonna earn a scholarship, We're gonna do this. And
I just remember, like not like wanting to let him
down like a boy telling people that. So that chain
I'm like, yo, he said, it's gonna happen. That's what
I'm gonna do. Me hurting my knee just drove me
all the way through college, even when my injuries and
then when I got to the league, I really I
didn't have no injuries. I like, I broke my thumb,
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you know, I broke my foot, was out eight games
but other than that, I just remember people saying like
Mr Warre crazy, like you know, like that's never gonna happen,
or just people doubting the whole plan. And then when
I made it, it was like, damn you was the
last one thought we were gonna make it out of
all the guys, like I had five dudes that was
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tough players in the country. I graduated. My four best
friends were like number one receiver in the country, number
one cornerback on the as closed top running banking, like
you know, top fifteen, top fifty players in the country,
and it was me, so you know, having them their
success absolutely drove me. But just a good the opportunity
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to show everybody where I'm front, like y'all gotta be
mixed up. Y'all got our family mixed up like y'all
not us. And it's a reason y'all not us. And
that's why I don't really care when people pass judgments
on what they think I am at how they think
I am really Like you got you got me, he said,
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messed up. I generally throw the FK. I throw the
f out there, right, you got me all the way
messed up, And you can say what you want to
say you ain't been in the trenches. If you've been
in the trenches with me, then we can talk. If
you ain't been in the trenches with me, you don't
know what we haven't been through. You don't know what
hearts just we had to endure. But yet you'll sit
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there and say your life has been easy or or
life success comes too easy for you, get everything you want,
your your spoil or whatever it is. You know what,
if you're one of those people, you need to take
a harder look at yourself and approach your life differently.
Because I tell you right now, t J had me
pumped up, man, Yeah, me pumped up because it made
me start thinking about man like, No, you can't relax
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and do what you can't. You can't casually get to
where we've gotten to in life and be what we
are by just just it's easy. You're gonna have to suffer,
you're gonna have to stop, You're gonna have to struggle.
So anyway, he got me going. Man, it took me
to a to a place where I just felt a
certain type of way. I appreciate t J. Ward coming on.
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He's got a lot of great stuff going on. He's
got an agency. UM. Wish him all the best, wish
him well and his endeavors. He's got the Ward Boys.
Make sure you check them out. The war Boy Project.
I believe it's called UM where they help out inner
city youth UM. And and Sanford I want to say
San Francis. I know it's up top UM and they
He's doing a lot, man, he's doing he does have
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a lot on his plate. Yeah, he is doing a
lot now. I mean I appreciate him for doing it
as well. There's a lot of guys out here that
really really doing what's right, and they're not getting the
exposure and they're not getting the opportunities and the voice
that they should deserve. Based upon that, those headlines going
to guys that are messing up. So to me, you know,
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we gotta hell up our heroes. Man t J W. Yeah,
I was listening to him. He was saying that he
had three or four of his friends number one of
the country, number two in the country, number one of
the country. And I looked at the high school. He
went okay, yeah, I said, okay, now I get it,
and then he walked on it. Organ he was a
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walk on. He didn't even get a scholarship out of
high school. He walked on and the starter his second year.
That's right, Yeah, he was all right, now you do
we put you out? We even we could get put
up on Game, Up on Game. Hey, listen, man, Hollywood Brown.
He's an Arizona cardinal. He's connecting with his old friend
out at Oklahoma. You know your boy Kyler Murray. But
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a quarterback in Baltimore is not happy. We're gonna touch
on that. We're gonna talk about that and later on
in the show. Does one disciplinary action from one professional
league have something to do with well, another professional league
and how they may handle things. We're gonna get to
all of those things and more. Alrighty, welcome back into
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people's you know, pretty cool, uh t J plex. Now,
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before we get to this, I'm gonna let I'm gonna
let Ryan set the set the stage on this. It
looked as though Baltimore was wheeling in dealing who right
in the draft? But then hollyroo It Brown gets away
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and and Ryan, what did we hear from from one
Lamar Jackson on his tweeter. Yeah, he took to Twitter
to express the fact he wasn't too happy. First he
retweeted somebody saying, what the bleeping bleep bro we treated
away Hollywood, And then he just tweeted himself WTF. And
then he retweeted the Ravens tweet announcing their pick Tyler Linderbaum,
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saying it's not about my new center. I roll emoji
stop that bs. And then he retweeted the Cardinals tweeting
out their picture introducing Hollywood Brown with a couple of emoji's,
expressing the fact that he was not pleased with the situation. Uh,
he's clearly not pleased with the situation. Is this the right?
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I mean, does it matter how guys handle situations anymore?
Keep in mind, he doesn't have his mom. His mom
is still his agents, so he doesn't have like an
industry agent. He doesn't have a fifth year. Uh. He
did not uh do an extension as well. I want
to say he hasn't done that that contract extension with
with the Ravens. Is this a good look or is
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this a bad look? Or is it much or nothing?
Is it just reactionary? Well, Lamar Jackson might not be
the next year himself, so every it doesn't matter. He's
going into his fifth field of his deal. He's gonna
be a free agent or whatever that case. Maybe, but
from his standpoint, he's a quarterback. And I think that
the the uh the trade of Hollywood Brown actually kind
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of hurts him because it puts him in the boxing.
So now he's gonna gonna have to defend himself with
what everybody is saying is that he's not a passing quarterback.
So now you're taking away his big threat, his big
playce threaten Hollywood Brown. So what is he gonna do? Uh,
what it's gonna be his his progression as a quarterback.
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I don't. I don't think it helps him at all.
But you he would think if the Baltimore Ravens playing
on having Lamar Jackson round for a long time and
him being the franchise quarterback of the organization, you would
think somebody would talk to him. But the fact that
they didn't it continues to send the message about what
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these NFL teams want to do and what's their priority.
They really don't care about Jackson as a quarterback and
to see him take the next steps to be being
an elite pastor, that's that's the only thing that's missing
from his game. Once he becomes that, he want to
become one of arguable I mean what, one of the
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top quarterbacks in the league, which he already is. But
for for them betray you to trade away his his
favorite weapon. I don't. I don't know what messages sends
to to Lamar Jackson, how he feels about it. Man, Mike,
Mike Tomlin has the best saying, uh that I've heard.
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I don't want hostages, I want volunteers. It ain't nothing
like that, Bro, I don't want to hostage. I want
to volunteer. Hollywood Brown didn't want to be there. He
let it be known. I want to be traded. The
system in the system in Baltimore. Who's the system in Baltimore,
lam Lamar Jackson is the system. Hollywood Brown didn't want
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to be in that system. So they partners, they homies.
Hollywood Brown didn't want to play with his partner and
his homie no more. He didn't want to be in
that system anymore. He wanted to go to huh Okay.
Then then why do you want out? I don't think
he wanted out. I don't think Yeah, I don't think
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he wanted up Plexico, he said in an interview. Or
knew I asked for a trade. He knew I asked
for a trade. I felt this offense didn't fit me. Well,
the system is Lamar, So you didn't want to play
with Lamar Lamar. And this is the thing, though, you
gotta be careful what you asked for, because you know,
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I did my research, Hollywood Brown. You know any targets
he had last year, A hundred and forty six, that's
over eight a game. He had a hundred and forty
six targets. I just ventured. He ain't gonna get close
to that in Arizon, So he's gonna be piste off.
Don't be piste off again. Okay, so he got a
hundred and forty seven targets from Lamar Jackson. But how
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accurate was these hundred and forty seven targets? Hey? He
had ninety one catches. He had ninety one catches. He
called ninety one. I never caught ninety rocks. That's what
I'm saying. He had ninety one catches. And so you
gotta look and then think about this. Lamar missed what
the last three games of the season, four and so,
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like you know, you, when you really look at it,
this systems right, dude, you're gonna be behind. You're not
getting those targets with DeAndre Hawkins, A. J. Green, Randell Moore,
zach Ertz. You're not getting those amount of targets and
so and Kelsey No, no, no, he went to zach Ertz.
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There's there's another one. No, no, no, no, it's those
those that I just named Drey Hawkins, J. Green, Rondel
More Young one right, yeah, and so yeah, you get
to play with your college quarterback well, they all be
there though. Do you think they're going to keep all
of them? They're bringing them in? Hey, uh d Hopp
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is under contract. They just one of them. They just
resigned AJ like two weeks ago. Ron deal mores and
it sets one year deal. Man. Listen, it's a one
year deal for a J. Green, right. I mean that
means they can still let him. But pretend they're not
letting a J. Go. I don't, I don't. I don't
think is going to be the starter. I think you
know they bringing Hollywood Brown over it to be the starter.
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I mean that's what you would think. Listen, man, I mean,
they gave up a first round pick, so for sure
they're gonna try to utilize him. Definitely the starter. You
gotta understand a hundred and forty six targets that's not
going to happen. You gotta be careful what you wish for.
You got your wish. He gonna regret this, and it's
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an indictment on him not wanting to play with Lamar.
They could twitter, he can say, oh that's not the case,
but Lamar is the system. How do you think making
him look make cool? Hollywell, la, it just makes it.
I mean, we all know what I mean, and the
context that TJ is putting it didn't make him look silly. Honestly,
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it makes him look sick. Yeah. Yeah, because when you
when you delve in twy, you guys correct me if
I'm wrong. And what I just said. Doesn't it seem
like I don't want to play with Lamar? But Lamar
is out here defending me that I got traded. Doesn't
Does that make sense? That doesn't make sense because you
don't leave Baltimore when you're a starter. You're getting all
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the targets if you're happy with what's going on. We
know football the Baltimore Ravens when they draft you just
just go to the history of the Ravens. When the
Baltimore Ravens draft you and you're remotely a solid player,
you are for sure getting a second contract because they
want to look like they're developing guys through the draft.
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The Baltimore Ravens for the most part, always signed their
guys a second contracts. Go look at the history, go
look at it. Their players that they draft get second
contracts with them very rarely, unless you just flat out
trash can do the Ravens not give you a second contract.
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Go look it up. You're trying to buy it. Though
you love you love Baltimore, you you really love the
Baltimore Ravens. Man, the organization, the Baltimore Ravens Organizations is fantastic,
straight out. I'm telling you. Being there, I was just like, damn, like,
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if you could play your whole career with the Ravens,
you do it. And he gonna realize that as soon
as he get into Arizona. Like, you know, you're don't
messed up, right, Yeah right, I'm telling you he wanted
to play in a different system than Lamar Jackson. Yes,
that's right, that's right. So so you're saying that, uh,
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you want to leave Baltimore, right, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
You know you're messed up, right, you know you know
you're messed up, right, Hollywood, Hollywood Brown actually leave him.
He believes him going to his own and leaving Baltimore,
that he's going to have better, better numbers. Yeah, he
does believe it. I don't think that's the case though.
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I don't think so. I don't think he's not playing
with DeAndre Hopkins, that that was columb Society for for
all y'all, y'all, two thousand babies out there that you
don't know, you that messed up? Right? You know, righty?
And speaking of knowing you that messed up, let's bring
up man eyes a glowing crowned in for an update.
You know, you know he didn messed up? Right? I
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have not yet, I don't play to anytime soon. But
even better than that, LaVar, guess what we have right now, fellas.
We have Hunter Beef in the NFL draft and it
involves Penn State. Get to that as we chronicle, and
continue to chronicle. The fourth round of the draft going
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on as we speak. We pick it up with the
fourth round, one hundred and twenty second overall pick, the
Las Vegas Raiders drafting Georgia running back Zamir White. There
you go. Then the Los Angeles Chargers, with the very
next pick, also took a running back that would be
Isaiah Spiller out of Texas A and M. And then
at one four overall, the Cleveland Browns drafted a place
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kicker Kane York out of LS You, followed by the
Miami Dolphins drafting Texas tech receiver Eric As who coma.
Then the Las Vegas Raiders back on the clock, selected
LSU defensive tackle Neil Farrell, the Patriots, drafting another running back,
Pierre Strong out of South Dakota State, Ravens selected Iowa
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State tight end Charlie Kohler, the Dallas Cowboys drafting Wisconsin
tight end Jake Ferguson. Then, with the one hundred and
overall pick, the Baltimore Ravens drafted a punch yard. We
are Jordan's stouts from where where's Jordan stopped from? Pig State? Man,
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I'd be I'd be so piste off, man, if I
was a player and you hear drafting punters man like
these dude, man, that that would really piss me off.
That would happen, That would really that would really you're
gonna punt the You're gonna if you plunt the ball
five or six times again, like really a punter. In
the fourth frame, they trapped what they need t J Man.
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I'm just saying, y'all, y'all don't feel my pain, because y'all, y'all,
y'all was off the borough board real early like a punter.
And if you're angry now, you're gonna get even more
angry coming up in just a few moments at one overall,
the Tennessee Titans drafting Michigan running back Kassan Haskins. Then
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the Green Bay Packers drafting Dubbs. Yeslo Ilo, Romeo Dubs. Yeah,
he will be to Steel. He gonna be. He gonna
be one of the packers best receivers. Remember I told
you that l a boy Romeo Dubs Culver City High School.
Remember I told you marking that down. We're gonna highlight
in the podcast. Remember I told you that podcast Romeo
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Dobbs is gonna be the steel for the Packers. Clippic.
Let's put it up on Twitter. That's podcast live forever
in social media, lives forever. Now at one thirty three overall,
here it is here it is another punter, the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers drafting Jake Camarda out of Georgia. What's notable
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is the guy who was thought to be the star
punter in the drafts. Of course, Matt Riza out of
San Diego State, has not been drafted yet, and two
punters of that position had already been draft often. At
one thirty four overall, in the fourth round, the forty
Niners drafted Texas San Antonio offensive guard Spencer Burford. Then
the Kansas City Chiefs drafted cornerback Joshua Williams out of
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Fayetteville State, and the Cincinnati Bengals at one thirty six overall,
drafting North Dakota State offensive guard Cordell Volson to play.
Two punchers have been drafted at a place. Kicker drafted
now in the fourth round. Fellows back to you appreciate
that he a LaVar real quick though, I said Culver
City High School. Romeo went, I believe in with the
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Jefferson High School. Jefferson, Okay, A nobody's gonna hold high school.
He could play, he can. Speaking of ball, um, Trevor
Bauer ain't gonna be bawling. Yeah, yeah, he will not
be balling. And and Ryan fill us in on the
details of this. Yeah, so basically last season, of course,
Trevor Bauer was put on administrative leave after a temporary
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restraining order was filed against him from an accuser accusing
him of sexual assault. He had not. He has not
played since then. And and then just the other day
the suspension came down, a two year suspension from Major
League Baseball, the longest suspension they've ever held uh handed
out for domestic violence or sexual assault. Now the important
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things to note here. In l A judge denied the
woman the original accuser, a permanent restraining order in August,
and the l A County District Attorney's office declined to
file criminal charges in February. But Major League Baseball has
the autonomy to suspend players without a criminal conviction, and
spoke to other women who had also said they had
been assaulted by Bauer. As revealed by The Washington Post yesterday,
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a third accuser has since come forward. And what other
thing to note here? Yes, two years and incredibly long suspension.
The longest previous suspension hundred sixty two games of full season.
Out of the fifteen suspensions handed out by Major League
Baseball for domestic violence, all of them have been negotiated
between the player and the league. Trevor Bauer is declining
to negotiate. That's why it is two years. And because
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he's appealing the suspension, he cannot get time served, so
his ninety nine days already from his administrative leave would
not be counted into the two years, so it would
roughly come out to four games in total. With that
being said, does this put more pressure on the NFL
to do something with Deshaun Watson, and and and the
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next the addition to that question would be, does the
NFL have a moral a moral obligation to do something
with Deshaun Watson? Because that's what this case, that's what
this story seems to be conjuring up in terms of
UH conversational circles. UH. To answer your question, no, Like
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I I don't understand how if you're not charged with
a crime, Like, how can you be suspended for something
and you're not charged for a crime. I I get
what baseball is doing. It's we're gonna he Number one,
he was on paid leave last year, so I don't
(30:10):
know how many games he pitched in, but it wasn't many.
And then this year, so in essence, that's literally like
a three year suspension because yeah, it's paid leave, but
he's still not able to play the game that he loves. Now,
if he's found guilty of this man, you throw the
book at his ass. And I say this because I'm
(30:30):
a father of three daughters, You throw the book at him.
But if you're not being charged with a crime, and
I've been reading up on this and her and her
friend or Texan one more time and we're both gonna
be driving Raine drovers and stuff like this. Like that
just kind of it rubs me the wrong way when
(30:51):
women that actually go through these things in it and
A what they're saying is true and I'm not saying
there's and I don't know the ins and outs of it,
but his case in Deshaun Watson's case is different, but
similar shouldn't have some similarities. I'm gonna say no, Deshaun
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Watson's not. It has not been charged with a crime.
And so it's hard for me because we've always talked.
But it doesn't mean just because it doesn't go to
trial t J doesn't mean that there wasn't wrong doing
that took place. And I think that that's what everybody
where the gray area of all of this, because you
there's a lot of elements of variables that happened. I mean,
(31:35):
just the burden of proofing the civil lawsuit is so different,
man like, and it is very different. And and and
this is the thing though, and we know this. When
you're a professional athlete, people try to take advantage of you.
We know this. So put yourself in the position to
be taking advantage of this way. I mean this, that's
(31:59):
not fair. The what alright, hold on happen for it?
Like if you're talking in the terms of Deshaun Watson
or even trap Baer here, you know, don't don't. I'm
not you just you can't be a check up a
woman up. Excuse somebody might take that the wrong way.
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You can't beat somebody up in those encounters and and
and just say, like, you know what I'm being taken
advantage of because I'm a pro athlete. You can't sit
there and and put out over twenty some women forty
and all or so that are saying some similar stories
like that's morally, that's wrong. That's that's wrong. As a person,
(32:44):
you just don't treat people that way. But LaVar, we
were all three of us were professional athletes. And when
it comes to dealing with the opposite sex, Um, you
know how I go. Oh, I know how it goes.
We all know how it goes. You know, we all
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know how it goes. I'm just saying, I'm just curious.
You gotta believe that this is gonna put a lot
of pressure on the NFL in terms of what they do.
I mean, you gotta it's gonna put I don't see that.
It's not pressure is DeShawn Latson is gonna get suspended
for sure. It's just a matter of how long have
many games that that's going to happen. And we we've
(33:30):
talked about this. We've talked about this, you know why,
because when it's one, two, three, four, you're like, oh,
maybe not. But when it's that many, it's like, it's
just way too many, broo. So where is the truth?
You don't know? It's a it's a it's a slippery
(33:52):
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Heading into the last parts of the draft, who do
you defice? Innitively, I think it's now taking the leads
(35:03):
step in terms of having the best draft. Are are
y'all up on it yet? Man? It's tough when your
teams are built really today you start to get your
special team player, guys that have a chip on the
shoulder that felt they should have been drafted higher, that
come in ready to go. I mean, but let's be honest,
(35:27):
when when you see these draft grades, it's really gonna
be off the first two rounds. And it still has
to be the Jets for me, because the dudes that
we've seen drafting in LaVar. We've seen Matt Corrall go
yesterday to the Panthers. Jack Jack just got drafted today
to the Patriots, and so guys that we know, we
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we see them. But it's hard to Oh, this team one,
we don't know because some of these coaches may be
terrible teachers and a good player just doesn't develop. And
so it's there are a lot of bad coaches. That
there are a lot of bad coaches. And I don't
(36:11):
believe there's a bus manages these coaches. Man, when the
kid can't play, oh, he sucks, He's just no, you suck. Yeah.
At the NFL level, I mean there's the how can
you you know it's a ton of bad coaches, man,
it's a ton. Yeah. But I have been in situations
and been on teams to where you know, guys come
(36:32):
into camp and you you know, they're not good football players.
I mean that has happened. So you just can't all
blame it on the car Yeah, I mean that's fair
that there have been. But but now that comes back
down to your scouting. If you're bringing in guys that
can't play. Plex have you ever seen a guy Have
you played with a guy or been on the team
where they drafted the guy in the first two rounds
(36:53):
and he was like he's terrible? Mm hmm, not right
off top right. That's what I'm saying is so those
guys are the guys that are called bus that's a
lack of development. That's not the player. I agree with that,
but agree with that, I'm just sad it is what
(37:16):
it is. Go ahead, plex Man. I think the best
the best teams that had the best draft for the Jets,
the Giants, and the Eagles. I just think those three teams, uh,
you know they really I think they got some special talent.
And I mean, do you count a J. Brown is
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a draft pick? Yes, I mean draft happened during the draft. Yeah,
look at what they've added. I mean, so you know,
you just hope that Jayala Hurts can get a little better.
But I think the Philadelphia Eagles and the Giants had
the best draft. I like what Baltimore did as well.
I do like the man. They might have got the
(37:59):
best dude in the draft, Tyed Tyler Bomb, Taylor Bomb,
Tiger Bomb, Lending Bomb. Yeah that's what I'm saying. You're
gonna eat all of that when he come out there
star playing for them, So I dude as a beast. Anyway,
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You've been put up on game man, that time went
by so fast. It just goes way too quickly. Man.
But you know what, y'all enjoy the rest of your day.
You enjoy beautiful sunny Florida. And for you, I'm a
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Another legendary moment coming up for you guys. Super Bowl chat.
T J. Ward will be that man. What a dope dude. Man,
I love hearing from him. The Ravens trade Hollywood Brown,
Lamar Jackson was not happy about that. We'll get bout
some reactions on that and a touchy situation in the topic.
(00:22):
But nonetheless, this is up on game, so we'll do it.
Does Bower's two years suspension put pressure on the NFL
with the son Watson Man, I can't wait to deal
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you heard, we got a lot of league to get to. Uh,
we'll talk to this this Trevor Bower two years mitchet
(01:52):
deal does just put any pressure on the NFL. I'm
curious to hear what you guys have to say about it.
I know I had my thoughts to my on that. Uh.
But first let's get to our guy, uh t J Ward. Now, now,
t J. You're you have another namesake of t J
Warre uh And and I know you know t J
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um And and plex. I don't know if you if
you know t J. But you know when you talk
to him, he's a very quiet, very very humble dude.
Just just you know, tintoes down, you know the type
of guy. And and what I really enjoyed about talking
with him is just how how open and how straightforward
(02:35):
he he is about the things that he's passionate about
and what he believes in. And I just always find
myself thinking to myself, you know I have I had
moments of reminiscing, like it's like everybody talks about how
good you are for how long you are, and sometimes
you lose track of what the struggle was like. You know,
when I was growing up, you know, I was told
(02:57):
my parents were told that I needed to put it
and be put in the special special education classes and
that you know, it wasn't very good at school, and
and I didn't have a good attention span, and you know,
and basically I acted out is what teachers were saying
about me, and and there wasn't a very large amount
of belief in me as I was growing up, and
(03:20):
I always used to I don't know if I was
aware of it fellas or or if I wasn't that
this is how I was being spoken about. But then
one day my mom and my dad they basically told
me like, look, this is how people are talking about you,
and this is what they think of you. And I'm
(03:40):
just telling you right now, we believe in you. We
believe in what you can accomplish, but you have to
believe in you, and you have to believe in what
you can accomplish. And and I think I started to
take those steps. Guys like I started to really believe
in what my effort was. I started to believe in
what my dedication to my books were, too, to just
(04:00):
being what I needed to be as a person. And
it totally changed my whole It just changed my whole
approach and my whole outcomes to life. And it's funny
because I'm often called arrogant. People think I'm self absorbed.
People think I'm arrogant, and they used to bother MEWO.
(04:22):
I love being I love being self centered. If you
want to call me arrogant, you could call me arrogant.
But what you gotta understand is the things that I've
gone through in my life and what I've experienced, I
had to believe in myself. I had to sink deep
into who I am to be able to accomplish the
things out I was accomplishing t J. T J were
(04:42):
like he was. He reminded me of this, like I
wasn't always the all American. I wasn't always the the
guy that everybody looks at. And it's like, oh, this
guy he thinks he's that I had to go through
some things. Do you guys recall having any Maybe not
as extreme as as that where people are like trying
to put your special wat glasses, but y'all recall anything
(05:02):
like in the beginning where something like you, you know,
you were experiencing or dealing with lad to you knowing
that you could be more, you had more value to
you than than what it was that maybe you even
thought you had. I think everybody at some point in time,
you you face that to where you realize you're more
(05:26):
than what you believe you are. You deserve more than
what you're getting, and you go get it and you
make it happen. I think at some point we all
face that, and you may not realize that you're facing
that at that moment, but when you sit back and reflect,
like we do when we get a little older, and
you're like, ah, this is that forking rotor that this
(05:49):
was something that I just knew, like I wasn't really
appreciating myself. I really wasn't demanding more of myself. Are
I really wasn't making people appreciate me more. Whatever it was,
we all have come to that point. You just don't
realize it at that time. Mm hmmm, yeah, man. And
(06:12):
what builds was man playing and simple. You know, I was.
I was a skinny, scrawny kid when I was growing up.
But I love to play football, but the physicality of
my frame wouldn't allow me to you know, going in
and do some of the things that I needed to
do to be successful. I've been When I was fourteen
(06:32):
years old, I had a situation where I was playing
junior high football and you know, we had like a
run play and I come from where I received it
to block the safety and safety just like completely runs
me over boom makes a tackle in the backfield. And
I actually had my coach come over to me. I
was laying on the ground and he was like, if
I was you, I would never step on the football
(06:53):
field again. Man. And I remember him telling me that,
and it was it was one of those things when
he told me that. I was like, one day in
the future, I'm gonna make him, gonna make him eat
those words. And it's one of those things that always,
you know, stuck with me. You know. I was, I
was small. I was like a hundred and thirty five
(07:14):
pounds when I was in junior high school. And then
I grew four inches in a year. I went from
six ft to six four from uh in the in
the in the eighth grade. And now the tables have
turned and I'm no longer this, you know, this scrawny,
skinny kid. And it's just one of those things that
always just stuck with me. Man. You know, he told
(07:38):
me to do something to to never play football again,
to the game, and I love and I just I
just you know, it inspired me. Man m h Well,
speaking of inspired and and thinking about the guy that
you might have not thought it would be the guy
but ended up did just that the guy. Here's this
week's legendary moment with T. J. Ward. Game Game presents
(08:05):
conversations with a Lea And now this is your legendary moment,
one that jumps out at me immediately because it was
the biggest hardship I had had it pretty much in
life up to that point. When I my senior year,
I busted my knee up um third game of the year,
and you know, I was my first year started my
(08:27):
senior year, I was having I was having a prephenomenal season,
had like three picks and three games. You know, I'm
banking on scholarship this year, go need a knee with
a guy fourth game and season and early in the
game and fracture ma pa Tella. You know, so I
wouldn't say it's a divine moment, because you know, I
(08:47):
I can't say that. I honestly thought I wasn't gonna
play again at that point. But it was more that
people thought that it was over for me, you know
what I'm saying, Like he ain't gonna get to college,
like it's pretty much over. Like so, and I remember
my dad telling people what we were gonna do, like
we're gonna do this, We're gonna walk in the Oregon,
(09:09):
We're gonna earn a scholarship, We're gonna do this. And
I just remember, like not like wanting to let him
down like a boy telling people that. So that chain
I'm like, yo, he said, it's gonna happen. That's what
I'm gonna do. Me hurting my knee just drove me
all the way through college, even when my injuries and
then when I got to the league, I really I
didn't have no injuries. I like, I broke my thumb,
(09:31):
you know, I broke my foot, was out eight games
but other than that, I just remember people saying like
Mr Warre crazy, like you know, like that's never gonna happen,
or just people doubting the whole plan. And then when
I made it, it was like, damn you was the
last one thought we were gonna make it out of
all the guys, like I had five dudes that was
(09:51):
tough players in the country. I graduated. My four best
friends were like number one receiver in the country, number
one cornerback on the as closed top running banking, like
you know, top fifteen, top fifty players in the country,
and it was me, so you know, having them their
success absolutely drove me. But just a good the opportunity
(10:14):
to show everybody where I'm front, like y'all gotta be
mixed up. Y'all got our family mixed up like y'all
not us. And it's a reason y'all not us. And
that's why I don't really care when people pass judgments
on what they think I am at how they think
I am really Like you got you got me, he said,
(10:37):
messed up. I generally throw the FK. I throw the
f out there, right, you got me all the way
messed up, And you can say what you want to
say you ain't been in the trenches. If you've been
in the trenches with me, then we can talk. If
you ain't been in the trenches with me, you don't
know what we haven't been through. You don't know what
hearts just we had to endure. But yet you'll sit
(10:58):
there and say your life has been easy or or
life success comes too easy for you, get everything you want,
your your spoil or whatever it is. You know what,
if you're one of those people, you need to take
a harder look at yourself and approach your life differently.
Because I tell you right now, t J had me
pumped up, man, Yeah, me pumped up because it made
me start thinking about man like, No, you can't relax
(11:19):
and do what you can't. You can't casually get to
where we've gotten to in life and be what we
are by just just it's easy. You're gonna have to suffer,
you're gonna have to stop, You're gonna have to struggle.
So anyway, he got me going. Man, it took me
to a to a place where I just felt a
certain type of way. I appreciate t J. Ward coming on.
(11:40):
He's got a lot of great stuff going on. He's
got an agency. UM. Wish him all the best, wish
him well and his endeavors. He's got the Ward Boys.
Make sure you check them out. The war Boy Project.
I believe it's called UM where they help out inner
city youth UM. And and Sanford I want to say
San Francis. I know it's up top UM and they
He's doing a lot, man, he's doing he does have
(12:03):
a lot on his plate. Yeah, he is doing a
lot now. I mean I appreciate him for doing it
as well. There's a lot of guys out here that
really really doing what's right, and they're not getting the
exposure and they're not getting the opportunities and the voice
that they should deserve. Based upon that, those headlines going
to guys that are messing up. So to me, you know,
(12:25):
we gotta hell up our heroes. Man t J W. Yeah,
I was listening to him. He was saying that he
had three or four of his friends number one of
the country, number two in the country, number one of
the country. And I looked at the high school. He
went okay, yeah, I said, okay, now I get it,
and then he walked on it. Organ he was a
(12:46):
walk on. He didn't even get a scholarship out of
high school. He walked on and the starter his second year.
That's right, Yeah, he was all right, now you do
we put you out? We even we could get put
up on Game, Up on Game. Hey, listen, man, Hollywood Brown.
He's an Arizona cardinal. He's connecting with his old friend
out at Oklahoma. You know your boy Kyler Murray. But
(13:09):
a quarterback in Baltimore is not happy. We're gonna touch
on that. We're gonna talk about that and later on
in the show. Does one disciplinary action from one professional
league have something to do with well, another professional league
and how they may handle things. We're gonna get to
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(13:31):
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people's you know, pretty cool, uh t J plex. Now,
(14:17):
before we get to this, I'm gonna let I'm gonna
let Ryan set the set the stage on this. It
looked as though Baltimore was wheeling in dealing who right
in the draft? But then hollyroo It Brown gets away
(14:38):
and and Ryan, what did we hear from from one
Lamar Jackson on his tweeter. Yeah, he took to Twitter
to express the fact he wasn't too happy. First he
retweeted somebody saying, what the bleeping bleep bro we treated
away Hollywood, And then he just tweeted himself WTF. And
then he retweeted the Ravens tweet announcing their pick Tyler Linderbaum,
(15:01):
saying it's not about my new center. I roll emoji
stop that bs. And then he retweeted the Cardinals tweeting
out their picture introducing Hollywood Brown with a couple of emoji's,
expressing the fact that he was not pleased with the situation. Uh,
he's clearly not pleased with the situation. Is this the right?
(15:23):
I mean, does it matter how guys handle situations anymore?
Keep in mind, he doesn't have his mom. His mom
is still his agents, so he doesn't have like an
industry agent. He doesn't have a fifth year. Uh. He
did not uh do an extension as well. I want
to say he hasn't done that that contract extension with
with the Ravens. Is this a good look or is
(15:45):
this a bad look? Or is it much or nothing?
Is it just reactionary? Well, Lamar Jackson might not be
the next year himself, so every it doesn't matter. He's
going into his fifth field of his deal. He's gonna
be a free agent or whatever that case. Maybe, but
from his standpoint, he's a quarterback. And I think that
the the uh the trade of Hollywood Brown actually kind
(16:09):
of hurts him because it puts him in the boxing.
So now he's gonna gonna have to defend himself with
what everybody is saying is that he's not a passing quarterback.
So now you're taking away his big threat, his big
playce threaten Hollywood Brown. So what is he gonna do? Uh,
what it's gonna be his his progression as a quarterback.
(16:31):
I don't. I don't think it helps him at all.
But you he would think if the Baltimore Ravens playing
on having Lamar Jackson round for a long time and
him being the franchise quarterback of the organization, you would
think somebody would talk to him. But the fact that
they didn't it continues to send the message about what
(16:51):
these NFL teams want to do and what's their priority.
They really don't care about Jackson as a quarterback and
to see him take the next steps to be being
an elite pastor, that's that's the only thing that's missing
from his game. Once he becomes that, he want to
become one of arguable I mean what, one of the
(17:13):
top quarterbacks in the league, which he already is. But
for for them betray you to trade away his his
favorite weapon. I don't. I don't know what messages sends
to to Lamar Jackson, how he feels about it. Man, Mike,
Mike Tomlin has the best saying, uh that I've heard.
(17:36):
I don't want hostages, I want volunteers. It ain't nothing
like that, Bro, I don't want to hostage. I want
to volunteer. Hollywood Brown didn't want to be there. He
let it be known. I want to be traded. The
system in the system in Baltimore. Who's the system in Baltimore,
lam Lamar Jackson is the system. Hollywood Brown didn't want
(18:01):
to be in that system. So they partners, they homies.
Hollywood Brown didn't want to play with his partner and
his homie no more. He didn't want to be in
that system anymore. He wanted to go to huh Okay.
Then then why do you want out? I don't think
he wanted out. I don't think Yeah, I don't think
(18:22):
he wanted up Plexico, he said in an interview. Or
knew I asked for a trade. He knew I asked
for a trade. I felt this offense didn't fit me. Well,
the system is Lamar, So you didn't want to play
with Lamar Lamar. And this is the thing, though, you
gotta be careful what you asked for, because you know,
(18:45):
I did my research, Hollywood Brown. You know any targets
he had last year, A hundred and forty six, that's
over eight a game. He had a hundred and forty
six targets. I just ventured. He ain't gonna get close
to that in Arizon, So he's gonna be piste off.
Don't be piste off again. Okay, so he got a
hundred and forty seven targets from Lamar Jackson. But how
(19:08):
accurate was these hundred and forty seven targets? Hey? He
had ninety one catches. He had ninety one catches. He
called ninety one. I never caught ninety rocks. That's what
I'm saying. He had ninety one catches. And so you
gotta look and then think about this. Lamar missed what
the last three games of the season, four and so,
(19:32):
like you know, you, when you really look at it,
this systems right, dude, you're gonna be behind. You're not
getting those targets with DeAndre Hawkins, A. J. Green, Randell Moore,
zach Ertz. You're not getting those amount of targets and
so and Kelsey No, no, no, he went to zach Ertz.
(19:55):
There's there's another one. No, no, no, no, it's those
those that I just named Drey Hawkins, J. Green, Rondel
More Young one right, yeah, and so yeah, you get
to play with your college quarterback well, they all be
there though. Do you think they're going to keep all
of them? They're bringing them in? Hey, uh d Hopp
(20:16):
is under contract. They just one of them. They just
resigned AJ like two weeks ago. Ron deal mores and
it sets one year deal. Man. Listen, it's a one
year deal for a J. Green, right. I mean that
means they can still let him. But pretend they're not
letting a J. Go. I don't, I don't. I don't
think is going to be the starter. I think you
know they bringing Hollywood Brown over it to be the starter.
(20:36):
I mean that's what you would think. Listen, man, I mean,
they gave up a first round pick, so for sure
they're gonna try to utilize him. Definitely the starter. You
gotta understand a hundred and forty six targets that's not
going to happen. You gotta be careful what you wish for.
You got your wish. He gonna regret this, and it's
(20:57):
an indictment on him not wanting to play with Lamar.
They could twitter, he can say, oh that's not the case,
but Lamar is the system. How do you think making
him look make cool? Hollywell, la, it just makes it.
I mean, we all know what I mean, and the
context that TJ is putting it didn't make him look silly. Honestly,
(21:19):
it makes him look sick. Yeah. Yeah, because when you
when you delve in twy, you guys correct me if
I'm wrong. And what I just said. Doesn't it seem
like I don't want to play with Lamar? But Lamar
is out here defending me that I got traded. Doesn't
Does that make sense? That doesn't make sense because you
don't leave Baltimore when you're a starter. You're getting all
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the targets if you're happy with what's going on. We
know football the Baltimore Ravens when they draft you just
just go to the history of the Ravens. When the
Baltimore Ravens draft you and you're remotely a solid player,
you are for sure getting a second contract because they
want to look like they're developing guys through the draft.
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The Baltimore Ravens for the most part, always signed their
guys a second contracts. Go look at the history, go
look at it. Their players that they draft get second
contracts with them very rarely, unless you just flat out
trash can do the Ravens not give you a second contract.
(22:25):
Go look it up. You're trying to buy it. Though
you love you love Baltimore, you you really love the
Baltimore Ravens. Man, the organization, the Baltimore Ravens Organizations is fantastic,
straight out. I'm telling you. Being there, I was just like, damn, like,
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if you could play your whole career with the Ravens,
you do it. And he gonna realize that as soon
as he get into Arizona. Like, you know, you're don't
messed up, right, Yeah right, I'm telling you he wanted
to play in a different system than Lamar Jackson. Yes,
that's right, that's right. So so you're saying that, uh,
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you want to leave Baltimore, right, Yeah, yeah, that's right.
You know you're messed up, right, you know you know
you're messed up, right, Hollywood, Hollywood Brown actually leave him.
He believes him going to his own and leaving Baltimore,
that he's going to have better, better numbers. Yeah, he
does believe it. I don't think that's the case though.
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I don't think so. I don't think he's not playing
with DeAndre Hopkins, that that was columb Society for for
all y'all, y'all, two thousand babies out there that you
don't know, you that messed up? Right? You know, righty?
And speaking of knowing you that messed up, let's bring
up man eyes a glowing crowned in for an update.
You know, you know he didn messed up? Right? I
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have not yet, I don't play to anytime soon. But
even better than that, LaVar, guess what we have right now, fellas.
We have Hunter Beef in the NFL draft and it
involves Penn State. Get to that as we chronicle, and
continue to chronicle. The fourth round of the draft going
(24:16):
on as we speak. We pick it up with the
fourth round, one hundred and twenty second overall pick, the
Las Vegas Raiders drafting Georgia running back Zamir White. There
you go. Then the Los Angeles Chargers, with the very
next pick, also took a running back that would be
Isaiah Spiller out of Texas A and M. And then
at one four overall, the Cleveland Browns drafted a place
(24:40):
kicker Kane York out of LS You, followed by the
Miami Dolphins drafting Texas tech receiver Eric As who coma.
Then the Las Vegas Raiders back on the clock, selected
LSU defensive tackle Neil Farrell, the Patriots, drafting another running back,
Pierre Strong out of South Dakota State, Ravens selected Iowa
(25:00):
State tight end Charlie Kohler, the Dallas Cowboys drafting Wisconsin
tight end Jake Ferguson. Then, with the one hundred and
overall pick, the Baltimore Ravens drafted a punch yard. We
are Jordan's stouts from where where's Jordan stopped from? Pig State? Man,
(25:21):
I'd be I'd be so piste off, man, if I
was a player and you hear drafting punters man like
these dude, man, that that would really piss me off.
That would happen, That would really that would really you're
gonna punt the You're gonna if you plunt the ball
five or six times again, like really a punter. In
the fourth frame, they trapped what they need t J Man.
(25:43):
I'm just saying, y'all, y'all don't feel my pain, because y'all, y'all,
y'all was off the borough board real early like a punter.
And if you're angry now, you're gonna get even more
angry coming up in just a few moments at one overall,
the Tennessee Titans drafting Michigan running back Kassan Haskins. Then
(26:04):
the Green Bay Packers drafting Dubbs. Yeslo Ilo, Romeo Dubs. Yeah,
he will be to Steel. He gonna be. He gonna
be one of the packers best receivers. Remember I told
you that l a boy Romeo Dubs Culver City High School.
Remember I told you marking that down. We're gonna highlight
in the podcast. Remember I told you that podcast Romeo
(26:26):
Dobbs is gonna be the steel for the Packers. Clippic.
Let's put it up on Twitter. That's podcast live forever
in social media, lives forever. Now at one thirty three overall,
here it is here it is another punter, the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers drafting Jake Camarda out of Georgia. What's notable
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is the guy who was thought to be the star
punter in the drafts. Of course, Matt Riza out of
San Diego State, has not been drafted yet, and two
punters of that position had already been draft often. At
one thirty four overall, in the fourth round, the forty
Niners drafted Texas San Antonio offensive guard Spencer Burford. Then
the Kansas City Chiefs drafted cornerback Joshua Williams out of
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Fayetteville State, and the Cincinnati Bengals at one thirty six overall,
drafting North Dakota State offensive guard Cordell Volson to play.
Two punchers have been drafted at a place. Kicker drafted
now in the fourth round. Fellows back to you appreciate
that he a LaVar real quick though, I said Culver
City High School. Romeo went, I believe in with the
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Jefferson High School. Jefferson, Okay, A nobody's gonna hold high school.
He could play, he can. Speaking of ball, um, Trevor
Bauer ain't gonna be bawling. Yeah, yeah, he will not
be balling. And and Ryan fill us in on the
details of this. Yeah, so basically last season, of course,
Trevor Bauer was put on administrative leave after a temporary
(27:56):
restraining order was filed against him from an accuser accusing
him of sexual assault. He had not. He has not
played since then. And and then just the other day
the suspension came down, a two year suspension from Major
League Baseball, the longest suspension they've ever held uh handed
out for domestic violence or sexual assault. Now the important
(28:16):
things to note here. In l A judge denied the
woman the original accuser, a permanent restraining order in August,
and the l A County District Attorney's office declined to
file criminal charges in February. But Major League Baseball has
the autonomy to suspend players without a criminal conviction, and
spoke to other women who had also said they had
been assaulted by Bauer. As revealed by The Washington Post yesterday,
(28:38):
a third accuser has since come forward. And what other
thing to note here? Yes, two years and incredibly long suspension.
The longest previous suspension hundred sixty two games of full season.
Out of the fifteen suspensions handed out by Major League
Baseball for domestic violence, all of them have been negotiated
between the player and the league. Trevor Bauer is declining
to negotiate. That's why it is two years. And because
(29:00):
he's appealing the suspension, he cannot get time served, so
his ninety nine days already from his administrative leave would
not be counted into the two years, so it would
roughly come out to four games in total. With that
being said, does this put more pressure on the NFL
to do something with Deshaun Watson, and and and the
(29:23):
next the addition to that question would be, does the
NFL have a moral a moral obligation to do something
with Deshaun Watson? Because that's what this case, that's what
this story seems to be conjuring up in terms of
UH conversational circles. UH. To answer your question, no, Like
(29:48):
I I don't understand how if you're not charged with
a crime, Like, how can you be suspended for something
and you're not charged for a crime. I I get
what baseball is doing. It's we're gonna he Number one,
he was on paid leave last year, so I don't
(30:10):
know how many games he pitched in, but it wasn't many.
And then this year, so in essence, that's literally like
a three year suspension because yeah, it's paid leave, but
he's still not able to play the game that he loves. Now,
if he's found guilty of this man, you throw the
book at his ass. And I say this because I'm
(30:30):
a father of three daughters, You throw the book at him.
But if you're not being charged with a crime, and
I've been reading up on this and her and her
friend or Texan one more time and we're both gonna
be driving Raine drovers and stuff like this. Like that
just kind of it rubs me the wrong way when
(30:51):
women that actually go through these things in it and
A what they're saying is true and I'm not saying
there's and I don't know the ins and outs of it,
but his case in Deshaun Watson's case is different, but
similar shouldn't have some similarities. I'm gonna say no, Deshaun
(31:13):
Watson's not. It has not been charged with a crime.
And so it's hard for me because we've always talked.
But it doesn't mean just because it doesn't go to
trial t J doesn't mean that there wasn't wrong doing
that took place. And I think that that's what everybody
where the gray area of all of this, because you
there's a lot of elements of variables that happened. I mean,
(31:35):
just the burden of proofing the civil lawsuit is so different,
man like, and it is very different. And and and
this is the thing though, and we know this. When
you're a professional athlete, people try to take advantage of you.
We know this. So put yourself in the position to
be taking advantage of this way. I mean this, that's
(31:59):
not fair. The what alright, hold on happen for it?
Like if you're talking in the terms of Deshaun Watson
or even trap Baer here, you know, don't don't. I'm
not you just you can't be a check up a
woman up. Excuse somebody might take that the wrong way.
(32:20):
You can't beat somebody up in those encounters and and
and just say, like, you know what I'm being taken
advantage of because I'm a pro athlete. You can't sit
there and and put out over twenty some women forty
and all or so that are saying some similar stories
like that's morally, that's wrong. That's that's wrong. As a person,
(32:44):
you just don't treat people that way. But LaVar, we
were all three of us were professional athletes. And when
it comes to dealing with the opposite sex, Um, you
know how I go. Oh, I know how it goes.
We all know how it goes. You know, we all
(33:07):
know how it goes. I'm just saying, I'm just curious.
You gotta believe that this is gonna put a lot
of pressure on the NFL in terms of what they do.
I mean, you gotta it's gonna put I don't see that.
It's not pressure is DeShawn Latson is gonna get suspended
for sure. It's just a matter of how long have
many games that that's going to happen. And we we've
(33:30):
talked about this. We've talked about this, you know why,
because when it's one, two, three, four, you're like, oh,
maybe not. But when it's that many, it's like, it's
just way too many, broo. So where is the truth?
You don't know? It's a it's a it's a slippery
(33:52):
slope for certain, and we'll continue to have the conversation. Hey,
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Heading into the last parts of the draft, who do
you defice? Innitively, I think it's now taking the leads
(35:03):
step in terms of having the best draft. Are are
y'all up on it yet? Man? It's tough when your
teams are built really today you start to get your
special team player, guys that have a chip on the
shoulder that felt they should have been drafted higher, that
come in ready to go. I mean, but let's be honest,
(35:27):
when when you see these draft grades, it's really gonna
be off the first two rounds. And it still has
to be the Jets for me, because the dudes that
we've seen drafting in LaVar. We've seen Matt Corrall go
yesterday to the Panthers. Jack Jack just got drafted today
to the Patriots, and so guys that we know, we
(35:51):
we see them. But it's hard to Oh, this team one,
we don't know because some of these coaches may be
terrible teachers and a good player just doesn't develop. And
so it's there are a lot of bad coaches. That
there are a lot of bad coaches. And I don't
(36:11):
believe there's a bus manages these coaches. Man, when the
kid can't play, oh, he sucks, He's just no, you suck. Yeah.
At the NFL level, I mean there's the how can
you you know it's a ton of bad coaches, man,
it's a ton. Yeah. But I have been in situations
and been on teams to where you know, guys come
(36:32):
into camp and you you know, they're not good football players.
I mean that has happened. So you just can't all
blame it on the car Yeah, I mean that's fair
that there have been. But but now that comes back
down to your scouting. If you're bringing in guys that
can't play. Plex have you ever seen a guy Have
you played with a guy or been on the team
where they drafted the guy in the first two rounds
(36:53):
and he was like he's terrible? Mm hmm, not right
off top right. That's what I'm saying is so those
guys are the guys that are called bus that's a
lack of development. That's not the player. I agree with that,
but agree with that, I'm just sad it is what
(37:16):
it is. Go ahead, plex Man. I think the best
the best teams that had the best draft for the Jets,
the Giants, and the Eagles. I just think those three teams, uh,
you know they really I think they got some special talent.
And I mean, do you count a J. Brown is
(37:36):
a draft pick? Yes, I mean draft happened during the draft. Yeah,
look at what they've added. I mean, so you know,
you just hope that Jayala Hurts can get a little better.
But I think the Philadelphia Eagles and the Giants had
the best draft. I like what Baltimore did as well.
I do like the man. They might have got the
(37:59):
best dude in the draft, Tyed Tyler Bomb, Taylor Bomb,
Tiger Bomb, Lending Bomb. Yeah that's what I'm saying. You're
gonna eat all of that when he come out there
star playing for them, So I dude as a beast. Anyway,
if you miss anything, make sure you check out the
podcast Man for me T J. Hushman's Out of Plexico Burds.
(38:20):
You've been put up on game man, that time went
by so fast. It just goes way too quickly. Man.
But you know what, y'all enjoy the rest of your day.
You enjoy beautiful sunny Florida. And for you, I'm a
hanging Vegas. Talk to y'all soon.
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