May 4, 2022 • 48 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to Dave Chappelle beating up his attacker at the Hollywood Bowl. They weigh in on how the transfer portal is affecting college football. The guys discuss whether or not Ryan Tannehill should be interested in mentoring Malik Willis. The Old P, Petros Papadakis helps breakdown the Dave Chappelle beat down and weighs into USC’s pursuit of Jordan Addison.
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Areas, Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox four Radio. So the things that go down while
while people are sleeping, huh, I mean apparently, Uh it
is a a wild time there. Somebody got got their
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arm been up there a little bit sticks huh uh. Yeah,
we were not aware of this until we came in.
That goes wrong. Yeah, apparently somebody tried to charge Dave
Chappelle on stage and uh, bad idea. And now he's
got looks like his elbow is running a post pattern
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in the wrong direction, and uh it is that is
very graphic. Is there any video of the actual fight anywhere?
Anybody got the actual fight of him running on stage
trying to tackle the comedian a second or second or two.
But that's about it. I have not seen this. So
it's a Chappelle who jacked up security guard. Well, from
what Birdo was saying, it was security. It don't look
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like Dave Chappelle would have been strong enough to to
rearrange see man's arms. Like funny you say that, because
I feel like at one point he was looking like
he either I don't know if you put on weight,
but he looked he looked like he had it was
working out. Yeah yeah, because he looked a little more
shacked up. But still he's an Ohio guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I respect that. I just don't think he would have
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been able to rearrange that man's arms like that, even
when he's got a little west Side barbell on him.
He has. He has a toured with Joe Rogan, so
maybe he learned some some JITs as they would call it,
some jiu jitsu that looked like three pound man works
that multiple multiple. I had to do that this past
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weekend on a buddy. You know, sometimes guys start talking
and they are like quarterback type thing, you know, and
they think they can test you. I literally almost broke
his wrist. What was what was moved? Hed you give him?
It was just a little grab, you know. Once you
give Once you give me a limb, I'll be able
to sever at any joint from this. I don't let me,
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don't let me, can't let me get a limb. You
gotta put that qu turbo on the end of it.
I've got a double dose, that's what it. So, Berto,
are you going to uh so you have sent this
over on Twitter at rad or underscore Rob twenty four
people can find out the juicy details of why listen
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to Will Smith said a bad precedent to where you
can just walk on stage and and you don't Will Smith, Yeah,
and so bad idea. And it looked like they got
a couple of headshots in as well too. He looked
pretty swollen up. I mean, well, either that or he
fell off a horse on a skyscraper. It did not
look good. So so there it is. That's uh interesting,
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I mean now that the things that happened while you're sleeping.
But you, guys, here's the sad part about what we're
opening up with here. You guys dominated college football, all right,
I'm gonna use the word dominate your successful college football players. Um,
you guys played at the highest of levels in big
time games, one awards, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And um, I
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don't know if you've noticed, but the sport is changing
rapidly and the latest change is something that we expected
was going to go down. And there's been a lot
of speculation. And we're gonna talk to Petris pop it
because an hour through I know he's gonna have a
ton on this. But the the latest development out of
college football is the bullet Nikoff winner top wide receiver
in the country, Jordan Addison out of pit He officially
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has entered the transfer portal. So the days of your
guys is yesteryear in which you commit to Notre Dame
or de Penn State and you're just gonna be there
and you're gonna write it out. You're you're gonna you're
gonna slap the sign as you walk onto the field.
You're gonna shout we are. Those days apparently are long
gone for some kids in college. Are Penn State UM signs?
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That's that's the Golden Dome. Yeah, that's what I said.
They we are though I know, play like a champion.
We slap you say we are and they just say
m D right like everyone who's everyone's got like a
version of that. I don't like that. Well, I know
you don't. We are who doesn't like to play like
a champion. It's Oklahoma. There's always a debate over who
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had it first. And I was like, well, there's not
a debate over this. Uh, clearly you guys need a
better business school because someone else trademarked it before you did.
You know what that's that indeed education, Because that's what
I try to explain to all of these different schools
that claim linebacker. You right, we own it, So you
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needed a better business school because you actually have to
pay us to use it. Like you may say you're
the better linebacker school, but understand, we own it. He
created it, We own it. But I digress. And and
speaking of that being a great segue, the reason why
I think this is a is a big story. Guys
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have always transferred. Guys have always wanted to leave the
schools that that they were at because things didn't work
out the way that they had thought. And and probably
for the same reasons. I wasn't starting this spring, or
you know, this guy's in front of me were the
same year. It doesn't seem like it's, you know, going
to be advantageous opportunity for me to stay here. Those
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things have always existed. I think what makes this crazy
is that this is one of your best He was
voted the best receiver in college football. He's an award winner.
You're not leaving Pitt for any other reason than the
fact that your talents have been recruited to go play
somewhere else. We're clear on this now sore where this
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led me to um conclusion wise, is this is now
becoming that that this is basically the end of amateurism
as we know it in college football at least. And
and here's what I believe is going to have to
happen because the transfer portal is being used so aggressively
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by not just one player, but entire teams are are
jumping into the transfer portal. Now players are being recruited
through the transfer portal. You're gonna have to now look
at You're gonna have to now look at the contracts
that you do for scholarships as contracts that you're going
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to have to do for the player. This is now
at some point going there's going to have to be
conversation as to are the schools able to do contractual
agreements with the players coming out of high school and
being in school. We get your we're giving you a
four year contract, We're giving you a three year contract,
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We're giving you a six year contract. You're gonna have
to start doing real contracts where you own the rights
of the player like a pro player. Otherwise, the transfer
portal is going to continue to ravage others like lesser schools.
You're not going to be able to compete with the
schools that are putting the financial resources into bringing in
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the types of players that are going to these other schools.
They're recruiting, their cannibalizing their owns like each other. Now
it's not it's not how competitive can you be to
get a high school player. Now it's I can cannibalize
other schools, other schools in our our our conference, other
schools in the n c a A. There's no off
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limits now based upon the ability to be able to
get to these players and basically pay them to come
to where you want them to go to. Yeah, it's
I just I can't stand it, man, I don't know.
Maybe maybe I'm just a traditionalist. I like the idea
of players being able to have an opportunity to capitalize
on their name, image, likely likeness, and and the fact
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that they can make a little bit of money and
make a little bit of scratch doing it since all
these programs off TV deals and everybody else seems to
be making money. But the idea that you don't need
to be held accountable to your commitment to something that
bothers me. It's it's it's not about the money. Like
as I've said before earlier this week when we talked
about this Monday, the money has always been there. It
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was just under the table, you know. Now n I
L has created an opportunity for players to leverage their name,
image and likeness off the field. That's great, and it
should be the case when and maybe we'll talk about today,
depending on how Jonas runs the show, maybe we'll talk
about the big ten rights and what they're gonna get paid.
But the reality is that was needed. The problem is
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as we've allowed to transfer portal to create this mess.
And and here's what. Here's where people will push back.
They'll say, well, if a coach can go somewhere else,
like they use that whole model. These players aren't coaches.
Those situations aren't fluid either. They're not as fluid as
the transfer portal. It's not like a coach can just say, hey,
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we had a great year, let me just put my
services out there. I'm gonna step away from the school
for a second, see what I can make else where,
come back and leverage. And they'll like, well, yeah, yeah,
you can. You know you leverage NFL opportunities or other
school opportunities to do that. All the time you're re uped.
Look at the past, you know a coaching cycle where
everyone got re up in these ten year deals. We're
not a ten year deals and they're locked into that
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and if they want to move on, fine, but there's
different language that stops them from doing that. So to
LaVar's point, I mean the agreements with players will again
we're gonna we're moving closer to a pay for play model,
like that's what we're moving closer towards where these players
become employees. But it's the transfer portal and the timing
of it. You know, when you allow any at any
point in time during the year this to be the case,
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and you know that granted May one was like a
deadline to you know, be able to put your name
in and that's what happened with Jordan Addison. It's just
it's it's disappointing because it's unrelatable. Not in the sense
of what these kids can make making money. It's the
fact that when you go to a school, of the
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people who are there are there because of that school
that there to get an education, that they're for academics
in some cases even though they're one percent and athletics,
but by and large everyone there is for the school.
And so when these players start doing this, you basically
become like a mercenary. And it's it's not really about
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the school at all. It's just where how can I
make the most money? You know, Where can I go?
Where can I go to to leverage what I've done
to make, you know, money in the short term money
right now and and and it's a it's a slippery
slope to get into because you kind of take away
from that long term vision, you know, where if it
doesn't work out. And for Jordan Aison, it will. You know,
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he's one of those unicorns that he's already won the
platinicof Award. He's coming back for another year, then he'll
be draft eligible and he'll move on to be a
first round pick. So like that's his path. There's few
players who were in the portal that are that. And
the problem with that is is is these kids start
jumping around and they get done with college and football
doesn't work out, and you go, what was that worth?
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You don't have you don't have any sort of network,
you don't have any brand anymore. You were so conscious
of trying to build your own N I L brand
and make money while school and all of that, that
you don't have anywhere else to go now, And how
are you gonna pay for college because a lot of
these guys don't end up finishing. Where are you gonna
go back and go to school? Where you gonna finish at?
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I mean, there's all those questions surrounding it, and I
just I think we've gotten away from a model that
probably had the best interest of the fans of mind
more so than the players. And they've try to change
it to help out the players and allow them to
make money off their name, hims and likeness. But it's
so swung so far the other way that I think
now we're allowing kids to potentially be in troubled down
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the road because we're making it about everything other than football,
everything other than you know, growing up to be a
young man if you will. If you're talking about football players,
um are the lessons you're taught and having that sort
of network and camaraderie with the people you're going to
school with. I mean, it's just it's taken away all
of it, and some people might be proponents of that.
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They might think that's that's a good thing for for
college football with the way it's going. I'm more of
a traditional assemble on the other side of it. But
until they change the rules of the transfer portal, it's
gonna keep allowing opportunities like this. Be sure to catch
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I don't
know if you guys knew this or not, Um, but
Ryan Tannehill has had kind of a difficult offseason. So
now he talked yesterday with the media about needing to
go to therapy over the playoff loss to the Bengals,
just his performance and how he got into a really
dark place. Um just really, you know, upset about that
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and open up to the media about it. Um. You know,
for those of us that had the Bengals plus three,
we were good with it. But um, then you've got
the leek willi Is situation, who was drafted by the
by the Tennessee Titans, not to be confused with earlier
in the week when I thought he was drafted by
the Falcons. But never mind all that, Ryan Tannehill talked
about the plus receiver town That is true. Yeah, so A. J.
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Brown is gone. Um and uh and so Ryan Tannehill
was talking with the media yesterday and the question was
asked about, you know, maybeing mentoring Malik Willis, rookie quarterback
in the league, third round draft pick, and he was yan.
Ryan Tannehill's response, that's part of being in a quarterback room,
in the same room. You know, we're we're competing against
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each other. We're uh, you know, watching the same tape,
We're we're doing the same drills. Um. I don't think
it's my job to mentor him, but um, you know,
if he learns learns from me along the way, then
then that's a great thing. So there it is just
a quality teammate through and through that, Ryan Tannehill, Um,
you know, I'm sure Marcus Mariotta took the same approach
with him in Tennessee and just didn't provide any assistance
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or anything like that to try and help him out there.
But Ryan Tannehill getting some pushback from a lot of
people about his unwillingness to want to help out a
rookie in the quarterback room, help develop. I mean, like,
I've been in quarterback rooms that have kind of been
touching go or where you gotta walk on eggshells because
the personalities in that room, and this is one of
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those that's not getting off to a great start. I
think you always have to remind guys who are in
his position, like, follow the money. You know they didn't.
They didn't spend a first round draft pick on Malik Willis.
That's not how he's viewed, where the writing is literally
on the wall. They spent a mid round pick on him,
and and because of that, I think it feels a
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little bit different now. You know, you draft a guy
and eventually you know he might come in and replace you.
But the truth of the matter is fall the money.
You know, they're not getting rid of Ryan Tannehill this year.
He makes way too much to be way too big
of a dead cap. And in fact, if I'm not mistaken,
he was one of the players who wanted a new
contract right he wanted to get another deal, restructures deal.
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So I think that's another thing that adds to the
conversation of how this offseason has been for him is
not only did they not come to the table and
renegotiate his contract, that did draft a new face to
that quarterback room and someone who may compete with them
at one point. But I think, you know, look, the
way things have gone for them in the playoffs has
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been the regular season. He's played well in the regular season,
but the way things have gone the playoffs have been
revealing and and kind similar almost to Alex Smith in
Kansas City, where you know, look, Ryan Tanner has played
well enough for them being the number one overall seed
last year, and he's played well enough of them to
win the division and go to the playoffs. And and
whether or not the division is tough or not, or
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it's an easy division, that's that's neither here nor there.
He's done it and he's been able to get them
to a certain point. I think now the question looms
for Mike Vrabel and John Robinson, their general manager, is
he gonna be able to be a guy to get
him over the hump, because there's probably a general consensus
that the answers no. And that's where we've gotten out
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to the NFL, where you know, you're looking for that
next guy who can get you over the hump and
win you was super Bowl, and I think with everything
that's gone on this offseason, they don't think he's that guy.
So that that's gonna be It's gonna be a tough
pill to swallow. And the only thing that you can
do to change that perception of people's minds going and
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do it, go out and win one. And he may
only have a year to do it. You know, who
knows what happens in the few sure too, I mean
them taking Malik Willis does not stop him from taking
in next year's draft a first round quarterback. It really doesn't.
So I can see how there's been a lot of difficulty,
you know, for him this offseason. But that's just the
reality of playing quarterback in the NFL. When you're paid
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a lot of money, there's a lot of expectations out
of you. I do think I find it interesting though,
that Kurt Warner felt they need to chime in. Well,
you know, I mean, it's of course, you know, for
whatever reason, you know, he wanted to chime in, and
well it's actually a tweet he offered up his services
and just said you know, any something along lines of
any young quarterbacks out there who need a mentor. He
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offered up his Kurt Warner. You know, maybe he'll invite
him to his next red carpet premiere. Well, and then
there's so similar as far as you know play style
to Malik Willis and Kurt Warner. Yeah, come on, I mean, well, like,
why wouldn't you so? Is there a sequel coming out
that I missed something? Is that? Why? Is he just
kind of underdog American undergog become the overdog at some point? Yeah,
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he wasn't always under you know, they became pretty uh
well known for what they were doing on the field.
Now is it, um? Now is the sequel to American Underdog?
Is it going to be the portion where um he
took Matt Leinart's job in Arizona? Or is it the
time when Eli Manning got benched and they put him
in with the giants? Like? Which? Which? Which one? Is
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that going to be? Can I offer a little perspective
on the whole, the whole? You know, I know your
bit is running running out right now, probably to continue
on with that bit, just serious conversation. Let me let
me offer this when a player makes it a point
to address it to that that specific detail of adding
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in there, I'm you know, I'm not here to be
his role model or his you know, his mentor or
anything like that. They're letting it be made known that
they do not wish to assist. And I think that
that's something that you have to ultimately, you have to
foul that away. If if you're the organization, if you're
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the coach, if you're the positions coach, you have to
foul all the information we're talking about it earlier, collecting
the data and all the things that are connected to
the speed and the performances and different things like that. Well,
you also got to pay attention to what your players
are saying and how they're feeling. And for him to
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say that he's letting you know that this is my
quarterback room, this is still my team until it's not
my team. So don't expect me to be that guy
that is going out of my way to make this
rookie feel comfortable and confident about eventually taking my job.
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And and so to me, when when you hear that
or when you when you see that statement come out
from a player, that that that is going to be
the relationship between the new, the new addition to to
the room, and and you still being there as as
the starter and as the leader. I think that you
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have to make sure that you guard your new asset
while while making sure that you guard your current asset.
If if that's what it is, and you feel as
though you can't get any further than what you have,
which it doesn't seemingly look as though, as you mentioned Q,
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that they can get that much further with Tannehill. And
that's probably why you know Malik willis Lands, I mean,
even though he as late as he did. That's that's
why they go after a Malik Willis you. You're not
You're not going to You're not going to aggressively, at
least by the looks of it here, you're not aggressively
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going away from from Ryan Tannehill. But you're also looking
at it as you're running out of time. So when
you see a statement like this, now you have to
be measuring and you have to be weighing what is
the development of Malik will Is going to be and
how do you prepare him to be as successful as
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you possibly can Knowing that you're not going to get
that that veteran guidance or assistance from from the person
that that is getting pretty much all the first hand
information as to how they're running their offense and how
they're running things on that side of the ball. You
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know me, you know, I'm just and now I don't
go ahead because I'm gonna take it in a different
direction probably, Okay, I was just say, I mean, the
reality is, the truth is it's not Ryan Tannehill's job.
He's not paid to you know, course is not. It's not.
So so what are he's saying is is true? It's
factual and and and all that I think we're you know,
just from being in that room and understanding when you're
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the starter, when you're the back, and all that you're
always competing. You should be always competing, and even though
you're paid like a guy that not isn't looking within
that room to compete with, right Ryan TANNEI was trying
to look at the Patrick Mahomes and the Josh Allen's
and the Justin Herbert's and the Joe Burrows and Lamar
Jackson's and everyone else who's in the a f C
that he's competing with to try to win that conference,
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and then go to a super Bowl. That's ultimately who
his competition is. But that being said, I mean, as
a quarterback, you're still competing every drill, every day with
the guys in that room. And it's kind of that
concept of his iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
And that's more of the philosophy that I think that
like I always tried to have with all of it.
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Like I always said to myself, if I'm in there
competing with a guy and he's just flat out better
than me, then he should play like that's just how
life is. Like I am comfortable and confident enough in
myself where if I can't beat this guy out, he's
better than me, Okay, go lead our team. Then go
be that guy, and I'll try to find an opportunity
somewhere else. And if I'm just not good enough, I'll
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figure out something else in my life where I can
be good enough. But there's there is an element to
when you're in there and you're competing where you should
want that guy to come out every single day and
push you. You shouldn't want that guy to come out
and make a throw that you're like, dang, Like Okay,
I gotta work on this, or I gotta try to
make my arms stronger. I gotta try to, you know,
work on my mobility, or work on some different arm angles,
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Like I need to work on some of that. I
need to work on my condition, I need to work
on my agility, maybe my moving into pocket, whatever it is,
Like you want to feel that challenge if you're Ryan Tannehill,
like this could create a spark for him. You know,
people talk about and try to correlate Jordan's love being
in Green Bay and two back to back seasons for
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, the reality is maybe that's a
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constant reminder to him every time he's in that quarterback
room of what the packers that did and then the
motivation behind it. You know, you could say it's it's not,
but when you've got a living, breathing person in that
room across us from you, yeah, it's gonna be a
reminder to you. So you can't help it but feel
a little bit more intense, a little bit more triggered
to one of say, I'm gonna go I'm proved to
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these guys within our own organization that I'm good enough
to be the guy. So he may not want to
mentor Malik Willis, but I'll put it this way, if
Malik Willis is going out there and challenging him every day,
you're gonna get the best out of Ryan Tanner, or
at least he's gonna be pushed to play and perform
at his best. I just the technicality bothers me. Just
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from this standpoint, it's not his job to mentor m
Absolutely not his job. We've heard other players say something
similar along the lines. But you know, it's also not
in mandatory for me to want to help an elderly
woman out of the store with their groceries. But I
want to do it, Like if I see it, I
want to do it. I want to be able to
offer up some sort of assistance, some sort of help,
Like you don't have to tip the weight at the
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at the restaurant. You don't have to, but you probably should.
I mean, it's it's it's the nice thing to do. Dude.
He's a young player in the league. If if you're
that good, you were given an opportunity to revitalize your
career in Tennessee, they they opened up to you and said, hey,
if you can beat out Marcus Mariota for the job.
The job is yours. The idea that he's not willing
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to play by these rules at this point in his career,
Like there's probably a little bit of an insecurity there,
and look there there's there was stories out of Miami
when that he made some comments to practice squad players
that that people in the media overheard in which uh
he was practice squad players were told, hey, you know, uh,
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go easy because they were kind of talking some trash
because they were picking him off in practice. And one
of the quotes he gave to them was enjoy your
practice squad paycheck. So like he does have this to
him to where he gets a little bit insecure. I'm
just saying all the point is, and I get what
you're saying, because you're right and what you're saying, he
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made it a point to include that as a quote,
so he wanted it to be made. No, that that's
how he feels about it, and there's nothing wrong with
him feeling that way. Again, like like it was stated,
it's not his job to help, you know, prepare his
his eventual seemingly replacement. The idea of it is is
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that you're building a camaraderie. It's it's a room where
you you have, you know, rapport with one another, you network.
You know, this guy may turn into a Hall of Fame, Yeah,
he may. He may turn into a Hall of Fame
caliber quarterback. And you can say you had a small
part to do with the development or you were in
the room with him at one point time on indeed, indeed, indeed,
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and so so the idea of it for me is,
you know, Trent Green, I think took credit for Kurt Warner.
You know, so I think I think you shouldn't come
after Curt. I think he I think he took Trent's job.
In fact, yeah, he try and hurt his knee. And yeah,
by the way, you know Brady's poor name was Mark right?
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That that one actually is true. We talked about that
in length. He's not He's not lying. That's name that
would be it. Yeah, it was that and one other
one Jonas made up that I was like, okay, yeah,
that could work. It was Wesley Pipes. He could have
he could have left the I'm not gonna be that
guy to him out of his quote. You know, he
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could have left that out because at the end of
the day, it's an unstated deal where you can choose. Right,
you had the right to choose. Ask him, we offered it.
You know you could choose. And even if they did
ask him, you can choose. You know, that's that's your choice.
Is your choice. You want to you want to take
him under your wing, You want to bring him over
for dinner, you know, he becomes the godfather to your
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kids and stuff like that, or uncle uncle Malik. You know,
you can choose that or but but what you don't
have to do is make it now a public thing.
Now you've put a spotlight on it where that's something
that they're going to foul away and they're going to
pay attention to. Now. I'm just surprised that no one's
used the button so far in this whole kind What
do you mean? What do you mean? What I means
(28:13):
caught up the button? So if he was if he
was just a young got that button mar Mark Boulger's way,
I don't know. If he were a yacht he looked
just like Tannehill. Yeah, I know, I mean the leak
it's Boulger. No, I you hit it, O man, I
(28:37):
was lost. Someone's going to use the barn you know,
that's just yeah, I mean there's a couple of different
reasons quarterback. But what is that, Berta, What is that
Mike Marts? Mike Mart's talking about Mark Boulger. Mark Boulger
is our quarterback. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I mean
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that sounds like the adult version of it. Oh man,
I'll never forget when he told me you don't want
to come here when he was in Detroit. Yeah, but
like all my ways trapped. That was one of my
first introductions to like, oh that's how this goes. Was like,
all right, well hang out here for a little bit
and then hope is is Mark is? Mike Mart's a
(29:25):
good guy. I've heard j Cutler talk about him. He's
super dumb. The Jay Cutler talked about him said, dude,
he's the best like he and and total sense of
humor and like if you overrule his calls, like Cutler
I think flipped him off at one time or did
something on the field, and Marx wasn't upset about it
at all. He's like, no, I get it, like whatever,
like it just I think it was the fact that
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they were running some seven step drop like when they
couldn't protect them. I don't even if there are seven
man protections at that point. I think it was in
lieu of that, like you want to get the ball
out quicker, well listen, I mean, you know, Olan Cruz
is the center. I don't know if you followed that
story recently, but apparently uh Ollen Creuz assaulted a co
worker earlier this week at a Chicago media company, and
(30:09):
then when the story broke on Twitter, Olan Cruz posted
the quote from Mike Tyson that said social media made
everybody a little bit too comfortable to run their mouth.
And uh so then we get to wait to see
how that plays out. Your favorite yeah, talked about it,
not even close them ol? Yeah? I mean so, I
(30:30):
I mean, it wasn't like a Prince situation where I
would have dated Prince. Jeez, I would have dated them.
Maybe I would have. Maybe I'd have had regrets later,
but you know I would have had to just you know,
we had you want to you want to go out
with me, Prince, but you want to go out with
(30:52):
me bar Yes? I mean, would you have taken less
money to go to the Vikings knowing that Prince was
a Vikings fan? Uh? I mean if if going to
his concerts and getting backstage passes was a part of
the deal. I mean I would have to entertain. I mean,
assuming you're dating, that would probably come with That would
be one of the perks. Well, I mean I didn't
know we were dating before that took place, but if
(31:14):
we were dating, of course, of course I would go
to me. I want to be closer to the person
they're dating. Of all the things we've talked about in
the history of us working together, I've never thought LaVar
I was gonna say that that I love the curveballs.
I would love to tell everyone that I'm joking. But
you know, I looked at him, all right, and you
(31:41):
know what the like there is something too that like
as I've been watching that we crashed serious whenever I
get a time about Adam Newman, the guy started we work,
and like it was like the same thing, like he
had trans he would get people to believe in him,
and the stories they tell on how eccentric he was,
but even just like the money he would spend and
how you're like you're looking at the balance sheets and
(32:02):
you're like, this isn't sustainable, this isn't gonna work. And
literally people kept investing in him because he was there
was something about his aura about him in the manifest thing.
Yeahs like Prince like like Prince Yeah, I mean with
his music and his dancing and his his high heeled boots.
You know how tall was he? Actually? Bro? He looked
(32:25):
like five six if that I mean he? I mean,
all right, google that. I don't know that you can
and I don't know that you could even get five
to there you go five to? He looked. Ain't gonna say.
You know, I've already incriminated myself and people are gonna
(32:48):
love me more today because of my candidness. You know.
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(33:52):
Petros what's happening? So? Hello, Hello and good morning everybody.
Good morning to you, sir. How's it going? How are
you feeling out? You know? I'm okay. I guess I
was at the Dodger Uh. Well, I didn't go to
the game. I always leave, but I was there for
my show yesterday with Matt at Dodger Stadium and that
(34:15):
was fun and exciting. We talked to Justin Turner and
some picture that kept swearing on the air wore out
our drop button. So that happened, I mean I did that.
What else is going on? Did you see? Uh? Dave
Chappelle was attacked on stage and I woke up this
(34:36):
morning to see that he was attacked and then he
got jumped and the attacker had a fake weapon with
a bayonet attached. Uh yeah, and uh so that's assault
with a deadly weapon because of the knife, and Busta
Rhymes got some kicks in on him who was back there,
(34:57):
and Jamie Fox stomped him out to and uh yeah,
and even Chappelle, I think kind a few kicks in
until they until they escorted him away. And you just
don't see that anymore. He's pretty swall. I mean he
was in uh he was in a Finding Forrester. You're
on the Dog and did you ever see Finding Forrester?
(35:24):
I did. I don't remember that. Busta Rhymes was the brother.
He was the brother of the other guy, the basketball
good player guy, and and Sean Connery was a famous
writer and f Murray Abraham plays the evil Professor, and
Sean Connery says, I do remember that, so yeah. Finding.
(35:50):
So it's just not often that you see, like not
since the Source Awards in the nineties that you see
just somebody gets stomped out by fifth Team twenty dudes
on stage. But last night there it was, and of course,
and then everybody started arguing on Twitter about it being
Will Smith's fault, and then everybody started saying, well, look
(36:13):
at all these other comedians that have been attacked long
before Will Smith ever slapped Chris Rock. And then somebody said,
this is really a slap in the face to the
trans community, literally because because Chappelle said, this is just
what they say on Twitter Lava. Chapelle said that joked
(36:35):
that it was a trans guy that attacked him because
that movie, the one of his arm took a transformation. Yeah,
you know, the old dislocated elbow, and uh, it makes
me think about my my own life and experience in
football watching people dislocate their elbows. And sometimes it's an
(36:56):
injury where it's just really scary and after the soreness
goes away in a week and a half or so,
you can play again even though it looks like so bad.
But you can also dislocate your elbow much like your
knee and wreck everything while you're doing it on the
in and out, like I think Danny Ammondola did that
(37:17):
a few years ago and he missed the rest of
the season. But when you see a dislocated elbow, it
doesn't mean that guy's arm is ruined forever. Just remember
that kids. Was that the season he was dat Olivia
Colpo Because I'm telling you, between him and then Christian
McCaffrey has not been healthy since he started dating her. Well,
I heard that she has some crazy grips and moves
(37:39):
that she uses. Uh, you using your momentum against you
a lot like seagal. Uh. There are those girls though,
that ondly date the slot receiver types. You know, there's
like a there's like a girl out there. I forget
her name, but she's run through like seven of the
different slot receivers, like little white guys in the slot.
(38:00):
Leave in the slot, Leave that alone? Uh what not?
Just saying all I know is they made that dude
look like a tarantula. He went from looking like a
human too, looking like, uh, like one of those dancers
in a racket, you know, an author pod or of
some sort and one of those what is that? What
is that the dancers where they break their contortionists that
(38:21):
they made him look like a contortionists. Yeah, they did.
And speaking of beating ass, Jordan addison UM's he's he's
beating ass or beaten cheeks out of Pittsburgh and seemingly
venturing out to the West Coast, these parts of town,
southern town, get back now now that now that USC
(38:44):
has firmly established free agency in college football, what what's uh?
What's your opinion on on what's taking place? Lincoln Riley.
You don't even know. You don't even know. You guys
don't even know how awesome USC is. You don't even
(39:05):
know how sweet it is over there right now. It's
not Happy Valley. It's Hollywood, collect the platforms and f tea.
It's not it's not South Bend. It's the land of
milk and honey, with manna falling from the heavens, homeless
people feeling punts and practice. Yes, that doesn't happen anymore,
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are we sure? Yeah? I mean that's the thing, guys.
All of this is supposed to erase the past. This
is the great reset. But in the history of college football,
and USC has it all. They have a leader who's
an offensive coach who I will say, actually is what
people say about Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian. He actually
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really is a really, really solid and fabulous offensive football mind.
The I mean Brady played for one of those guys,
and he's a punchline. Now, Charlie Weiss, So it doesn't
always work like people think. I think USC is gonna
be really good. I really do. But you have to
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field a team, and football teams have to know each
other and play together and be on the same page.
It's it's a lot like in some ways these weird
superstar teams. That's starting to make me think about with
the NBA and how those don't work necessarily. And the
thing about a place like USC, and it's very similar
(40:34):
to where you guys played, is everybody at USC is
a superstar. I don't care if you're playing for Paul
Hackett or Clay Helton. USC's recruiting never really fell off
that bad, except for one year under Clay Helton. There
was a small class too. Anyway, Yeah, and their problem
has been player development, clearly. Clearly, USC's problem has been
(40:56):
player development, not actually recruiting guys who people think are
gonna be good football players. So you have to start
developing players if you're USC and have that beat your
main dear program from when they are freshmen too, when
they are ready to leave. And if your USC and
(41:18):
you're doing what people think you're supposed to be doing,
they should be ready to leave in three years, So
that doesn't really jibe with the Addison stuff, right, He's
a player that somebody else developed. Uh Die, the running
back is a player that somebody else developed. And that's
(41:38):
one thing that concerns me. I think for all of
these teams that are trying to build super teams is
you've got to develop these people through your program because
they have to be broken down. Like everybody comes to
Notre Dame, Penn State, USC, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, you know,
any of these schools. Everybody comes to those schools as
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a super star from their hometown. They are a god
in their bubble, and it is a very humbling experience
when you get to college and you realize that these
are bigger, stronger, faster guys and you have to be
broken down and rebuilt up in the image of that
football team. Now, a lot of football teams have good
culture and they could absorb transfers, and we've sort of
(42:21):
seen this flourish in the last few years. But for
every story that works out, there's four or five that don't.
And I just think that, yeah, right, I mean, this
is what his this is his fifth transfer or something
like that. Seriously, you know, I mean so so for
these kind of things. I I, uh, I always try
(42:42):
to temper people's enthusiasm. Now, and it's fun for Colin
Calhern to put on his outfit and lead the parade.
He could stand up, he was so excited. I know
he sits down for most of his show. But some
would say when he talks about us, he he just
looks like one big donkey d But some I don't
(43:03):
say that. But uh, I would never did I ask
you this, Petros? But you know what I'm saying. You
guys understand what I'm saying. Just bringing in a bunch
of guys who somebody else has developed and saying yeah,
rolling the ball out and saying, hey, go run go
run a y stick. Uh well, let's see how that
works out. Hey, Petros, do you view college football and
(43:25):
having a problem, whether it's in I L transfer port
or anything right now? And and and if so, like,
is is there a fix in your mind with any
of this? I mean, I think without the transfer portal
part of that question, I think you could have been
asking me that question in the fifties. You know, don't
you that's having a problem. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
(43:45):
always had a problem. I mean, there's always something to
bitch about, complain about, and argue about when it comes
to college football, and whatever generation is arguing, it's always catastrophic.
I mean, it's always a catastrophe. It's going to end
because of blank, you know, because of the coaches moving,
(44:08):
because of the disparity in UH stipend checks between Kansas
State and the University of Southern California or city schools.
It's gonna end because of the BCS. It's gonna end
because we don't have a BCS. It's gonna end because
of the playoff. It's gonna end because the transfer portal,
because of the n i L, because of Pro Football,
(44:30):
because the USFL. I mean, there's always something threatening college football.
The games are too long, you know, it's always in peril,
and that is part of the appeal. UH. There's always
something to argue about and to be passionate about. And
so I think that it does sort of correct itself
(44:53):
in a very haphazard way, I guess, or clumsy way.
It always swings act and corrects itself and finds a
way to move. But I think the n i L
and the transfer portal and all of the things. The
seismic moving with the conference shifting, that was another one.
You know, college football is over as we know it
(45:15):
because the conferences are moving, and I remember the Southwest Conference.
You know a lot of people do. So there's always
been I mean, the only constant in college football has
been massive change. And I think what this is moving
us toward is whatever college football looks like without the
(45:36):
n C double as governance, because I think it's grown
way beyond that. There's billions of dollars involved everywhere. Now, Uh,
the live TV revenue is just it's just too much
and too popular and too many brands to go under
that very very antiquated umbrella. So I I do think,
(45:59):
you know, college a ball is moving towards like they
have with the College Football Playoff, which I don't necessarily
like because of the ESPN involvement in control. But you're
gonna be going for outside entities. You know, the trophy
to win college football is not an n C double
a trophy, and that might be the case, you know,
(46:19):
with a lot of these conferences and and how things change,
that's probably where we're moving. But I don't think we're
in peril as long as there's something to argue about.
We'll have it. Get him on Twitter at the Old
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(46:40):
single Wednesday morning, Petros. We appreciate a man. Uh, we'll
do it again next week. Sorry, philosophical like a pac
van there at the end. That's all right, we got
our shots. Yeah, come on, Petros, do your side, my side, nerds, cools. Man,
it's bs. It's hard enough just to be yourself, you know.
(47:04):
Was the Sean Connery quote again? Yeah you're oh, oh sorry.
Do you ever just look in the mirror and talk
like Sean Connery or try? It's it's very gratifying. You
can pull it off. Well, you know some of us can,
as we age, we all can, no dog, I mean, like,
(47:32):
what does Mike Bone think of that impression? You don't
even got Oh man, he will do it again next week? Man, alright, first,
just real, yeah it is he's the best. Congrats on
your receiver from my hometown is a bidding ward out though,
(47:55):
hey little hands pick it left. You know he this guy,
he probably seeks the other quarterbacks. Suck man SLOs is
the other quarterbacks. Yeah, he's all wrapped up with a
soccer girlfriend out there. That's right, that's right. I like
loving football. I love loving football. I love young love
between Slova's and the soccer player. It's beautiful, man, so good.
(48:18):
Right now, they're waking up in Pittsburgh looking at each
other and they're just kicking it, just having a great dat.
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Fox four Radio. So the things that go down while
while people are sleeping, huh, I mean apparently, Uh it
is a a wild time there. Somebody got got their
(00:23):
arm been up there a little bit sticks huh uh. Yeah,
we were not aware of this until we came in.
That goes wrong. Yeah, apparently somebody tried to charge Dave
Chappelle on stage and uh, bad idea. And now he's
got looks like his elbow is running a post pattern
(00:43):
in the wrong direction, and uh it is that is
very graphic. Is there any video of the actual fight anywhere?
Anybody got the actual fight of him running on stage
trying to tackle the comedian a second or second or two.
But that's about it. I have not seen this. So
it's a Chappelle who jacked up security guard. Well, from
what Birdo was saying, it was security. It don't look
(01:04):
like Dave Chappelle would have been strong enough to to
rearrange see man's arms. Like funny you say that, because
I feel like at one point he was looking like
he either I don't know if you put on weight,
but he looked he looked like he had it was
working out. Yeah yeah, because he looked a little more
shacked up. But still he's an Ohio guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I respect that. I just don't think he would have
(01:26):
been able to rearrange that man's arms like that, even
when he's got a little west Side barbell on him.
He has. He has a toured with Joe Rogan, so
maybe he learned some some JITs as they would call it,
some jiu jitsu that looked like three pound man works
that multiple multiple. I had to do that this past
(01:48):
weekend on a buddy. You know, sometimes guys start talking
and they are like quarterback type thing, you know, and
they think they can test you. I literally almost broke
his wrist. What was what was moved? Hed you give him?
It was just a little grab, you know. Once you
give Once you give me a limb, I'll be able
to sever at any joint from this. I don't let me,
(02:14):
don't let me, can't let me get a limb. You
gotta put that qu turbo on the end of it.
I've got a double dose, that's what it. So, Berto,
are you going to uh so you have sent this
over on Twitter at rad or underscore Rob twenty four
people can find out the juicy details of why listen
(02:35):
to Will Smith said a bad precedent to where you
can just walk on stage and and you don't Will Smith, Yeah,
and so bad idea. And it looked like they got
a couple of headshots in as well too. He looked
pretty swollen up. I mean, well, either that or he
fell off a horse on a skyscraper. It did not
look good. So so there it is. That's uh interesting,
(02:57):
I mean now that the things that happened while you're sleeping.
But you, guys, here's the sad part about what we're
opening up with here. You guys dominated college football, all right,
I'm gonna use the word dominate your successful college football players. Um,
you guys played at the highest of levels in big
time games, one awards, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And um, I
(03:21):
don't know if you've noticed, but the sport is changing
rapidly and the latest change is something that we expected
was going to go down. And there's been a lot
of speculation. And we're gonna talk to Petris pop it
because an hour through I know he's gonna have a
ton on this. But the the latest development out of
college football is the bullet Nikoff winner top wide receiver
in the country, Jordan Addison out of pit He officially
(03:45):
has entered the transfer portal. So the days of your
guys is yesteryear in which you commit to Notre Dame
or de Penn State and you're just gonna be there
and you're gonna write it out. You're you're gonna you're
gonna slap the sign as you walk onto the field.
You're gonna shout we are. Those days apparently are long
gone for some kids in college. Are Penn State UM signs?
(04:07):
That's that's the Golden Dome. Yeah, that's what I said.
They we are though I know, play like a champion.
We slap you say we are and they just say
m D right like everyone who's everyone's got like a
version of that. I don't like that. Well, I know
you don't. We are who doesn't like to play like
a champion. It's Oklahoma. There's always a debate over who
(04:29):
had it first. And I was like, well, there's not
a debate over this. Uh, clearly you guys need a
better business school because someone else trademarked it before you did.
You know what that's that indeed education, Because that's what
I try to explain to all of these different schools
that claim linebacker. You right, we own it, So you
(04:49):
needed a better business school because you actually have to
pay us to use it. Like you may say you're
the better linebacker school, but understand, we own it. He
created it, We own it. But I digress. And and
speaking of that being a great segue, the reason why
I think this is a is a big story. Guys
(05:10):
have always transferred. Guys have always wanted to leave the
schools that that they were at because things didn't work
out the way that they had thought. And and probably
for the same reasons. I wasn't starting this spring, or
you know, this guy's in front of me were the
same year. It doesn't seem like it's, you know, going
to be advantageous opportunity for me to stay here. Those
(05:33):
things have always existed. I think what makes this crazy
is that this is one of your best He was
voted the best receiver in college football. He's an award winner.
You're not leaving Pitt for any other reason than the
fact that your talents have been recruited to go play
somewhere else. We're clear on this now sore where this
(05:56):
led me to um conclusion wise, is this is now
becoming that that this is basically the end of amateurism
as we know it in college football at least. And
and here's what I believe is going to have to
happen because the transfer portal is being used so aggressively
(06:18):
by not just one player, but entire teams are are
jumping into the transfer portal. Now players are being recruited
through the transfer portal. You're gonna have to now look
at You're gonna have to now look at the contracts
that you do for scholarships as contracts that you're going
(06:39):
to have to do for the player. This is now
at some point going there's going to have to be
conversation as to are the schools able to do contractual
agreements with the players coming out of high school and
being in school. We get your we're giving you a
four year contract, We're giving you a three year contract,
(07:00):
We're giving you a six year contract. You're gonna have
to start doing real contracts where you own the rights
of the player like a pro player. Otherwise, the transfer
portal is going to continue to ravage others like lesser schools.
You're not going to be able to compete with the
schools that are putting the financial resources into bringing in
(07:25):
the types of players that are going to these other schools.
They're recruiting, their cannibalizing their owns like each other. Now
it's not it's not how competitive can you be to
get a high school player. Now it's I can cannibalize
other schools, other schools in our our our conference, other
schools in the n c a A. There's no off
(07:46):
limits now based upon the ability to be able to
get to these players and basically pay them to come
to where you want them to go to. Yeah, it's
I just I can't stand it, man, I don't know.
Maybe maybe I'm just a traditionalist. I like the idea
of players being able to have an opportunity to capitalize
on their name, image, likely likeness, and and the fact
(08:08):
that they can make a little bit of money and
make a little bit of scratch doing it since all
these programs off TV deals and everybody else seems to
be making money. But the idea that you don't need
to be held accountable to your commitment to something that
bothers me. It's it's it's not about the money. Like
as I've said before earlier this week when we talked
about this Monday, the money has always been there. It
(08:29):
was just under the table, you know. Now n I
L has created an opportunity for players to leverage their name,
image and likeness off the field. That's great, and it
should be the case when and maybe we'll talk about today,
depending on how Jonas runs the show, maybe we'll talk
about the big ten rights and what they're gonna get paid.
But the reality is that was needed. The problem is
(08:51):
as we've allowed to transfer portal to create this mess.
And and here's what. Here's where people will push back.
They'll say, well, if a coach can go somewhere else,
like they use that whole model. These players aren't coaches.
Those situations aren't fluid either. They're not as fluid as
the transfer portal. It's not like a coach can just say, hey,
(09:14):
we had a great year, let me just put my
services out there. I'm gonna step away from the school
for a second, see what I can make else where,
come back and leverage. And they'll like, well, yeah, yeah,
you can. You know you leverage NFL opportunities or other
school opportunities to do that. All the time you're re uped.
Look at the past, you know a coaching cycle where
everyone got re up in these ten year deals. We're
not a ten year deals and they're locked into that
(09:36):
and if they want to move on, fine, but there's
different language that stops them from doing that. So to
LaVar's point, I mean the agreements with players will again
we're gonna we're moving closer to a pay for play model,
like that's what we're moving closer towards where these players
become employees. But it's the transfer portal and the timing
of it. You know, when you allow any at any
point in time during the year this to be the case,
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and you know that granted May one was like a
deadline to you know, be able to put your name
in and that's what happened with Jordan Addison. It's just
it's it's disappointing because it's unrelatable. Not in the sense
of what these kids can make making money. It's the
fact that when you go to a school, of the
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people who are there are there because of that school
that there to get an education, that they're for academics
in some cases even though they're one percent and athletics,
but by and large everyone there is for the school.
And so when these players start doing this, you basically
become like a mercenary. And it's it's not really about
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the school at all. It's just where how can I
make the most money? You know, Where can I go?
Where can I go to to leverage what I've done
to make, you know, money in the short term money
right now and and and it's a it's a slippery
slope to get into because you kind of take away
from that long term vision, you know, where if it
doesn't work out. And for Jordan Aison, it will. You know,
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he's one of those unicorns that he's already won the
platinicof Award. He's coming back for another year, then he'll
be draft eligible and he'll move on to be a
first round pick. So like that's his path. There's few
players who were in the portal that are that. And
the problem with that is is is these kids start
jumping around and they get done with college and football
doesn't work out, and you go, what was that worth?
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You don't have you don't have any sort of network,
you don't have any brand anymore. You were so conscious
of trying to build your own N I L brand
and make money while school and all of that, that
you don't have anywhere else to go now, And how
are you gonna pay for college because a lot of
these guys don't end up finishing. Where are you gonna
go back and go to school? Where you gonna finish at?
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I mean, there's all those questions surrounding it, and I
just I think we've gotten away from a model that
probably had the best interest of the fans of mind
more so than the players. And they've try to change
it to help out the players and allow them to
make money off their name, hims and likeness. But it's
so swung so far the other way that I think
now we're allowing kids to potentially be in troubled down
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the road because we're making it about everything other than football,
everything other than you know, growing up to be a
young man if you will. If you're talking about football players,
um are the lessons you're taught and having that sort
of network and camaraderie with the people you're going to
school with. I mean, it's just it's taken away all
of it, and some people might be proponents of that.
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They might think that's that's a good thing for for
college football with the way it's going. I'm more of
a traditional assemble on the other side of it. But
until they change the rules of the transfer portal, it's
gonna keep allowing opportunities like this. Be sure to catch
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I don't
know if you guys knew this or not, Um, but
Ryan Tannehill has had kind of a difficult offseason. So
now he talked yesterday with the media about needing to
go to therapy over the playoff loss to the Bengals,
just his performance and how he got into a really
dark place. Um just really, you know, upset about that
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and open up to the media about it. Um. You know,
for those of us that had the Bengals plus three,
we were good with it. But um, then you've got
the leek willi Is situation, who was drafted by the
by the Tennessee Titans, not to be confused with earlier
in the week when I thought he was drafted by
the Falcons. But never mind all that, Ryan Tannehill talked
about the plus receiver town That is true. Yeah, so A. J.
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Brown is gone. Um and uh and so Ryan Tannehill
was talking with the media yesterday and the question was
asked about, you know, maybeing mentoring Malik Willis, rookie quarterback
in the league, third round draft pick, and he was yan.
Ryan Tannehill's response, that's part of being in a quarterback room,
in the same room. You know, we're we're competing against
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each other. We're uh, you know, watching the same tape,
We're we're doing the same drills. Um. I don't think
it's my job to mentor him, but um, you know,
if he learns learns from me along the way, then
then that's a great thing. So there it is just
a quality teammate through and through that, Ryan Tannehill, Um,
you know, I'm sure Marcus Mariotta took the same approach
with him in Tennessee and just didn't provide any assistance
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or anything like that to try and help him out there.
But Ryan Tannehill getting some pushback from a lot of
people about his unwillingness to want to help out a
rookie in the quarterback room, help develop. I mean, like,
I've been in quarterback rooms that have kind of been
touching go or where you gotta walk on eggshells because
the personalities in that room, and this is one of
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those that's not getting off to a great start. I
think you always have to remind guys who are in
his position, like, follow the money. You know they didn't.
They didn't spend a first round draft pick on Malik Willis.
That's not how he's viewed, where the writing is literally
on the wall. They spent a mid round pick on him,
and and because of that, I think it feels a
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little bit different now. You know, you draft a guy
and eventually you know he might come in and replace you.
But the truth of the matter is fall the money.
You know, they're not getting rid of Ryan Tannehill this year.
He makes way too much to be way too big
of a dead cap. And in fact, if I'm not mistaken,
he was one of the players who wanted a new
contract right he wanted to get another deal, restructures deal.
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So I think that's another thing that adds to the
conversation of how this offseason has been for him is
not only did they not come to the table and
renegotiate his contract, that did draft a new face to
that quarterback room and someone who may compete with them
at one point. But I think, you know, look, the
way things have gone for them in the playoffs has
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been the regular season. He's played well in the regular season,
but the way things have gone the playoffs have been
revealing and and kind similar almost to Alex Smith in
Kansas City, where you know, look, Ryan Tanner has played
well enough for them being the number one overall seed
last year, and he's played well enough of them to
win the division and go to the playoffs. And and
whether or not the division is tough or not, or
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it's an easy division, that's that's neither here nor there.
He's done it and he's been able to get them
to a certain point. I think now the question looms
for Mike Vrabel and John Robinson, their general manager, is
he gonna be able to be a guy to get
him over the hump, because there's probably a general consensus
that the answers no. And that's where we've gotten out
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to the NFL, where you know, you're looking for that
next guy who can get you over the hump and
win you was super Bowl, and I think with everything
that's gone on this offseason, they don't think he's that guy.
So that that's gonna be It's gonna be a tough
pill to swallow. And the only thing that you can
do to change that perception of people's minds going and
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do it, go out and win one. And he may
only have a year to do it. You know, who
knows what happens in the few sure too, I mean
them taking Malik Willis does not stop him from taking
in next year's draft a first round quarterback. It really doesn't.
So I can see how there's been a lot of difficulty,
you know, for him this offseason. But that's just the
reality of playing quarterback in the NFL. When you're paid
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a lot of money, there's a lot of expectations out
of you. I do think I find it interesting though,
that Kurt Warner felt they need to chime in. Well,
you know, I mean, it's of course, you know, for
whatever reason, you know, he wanted to chime in, and
well it's actually a tweet he offered up his services
and just said you know, any something along lines of
any young quarterbacks out there who need a mentor. He
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offered up his Kurt Warner. You know, maybe he'll invite
him to his next red carpet premiere. Well, and then
there's so similar as far as you know play style
to Malik Willis and Kurt Warner. Yeah, come on, I mean, well, like,
why wouldn't you so? Is there a sequel coming out
that I missed something? Is that? Why? Is he just
kind of underdog American undergog become the overdog at some point? Yeah,
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he wasn't always under you know, they became pretty uh
well known for what they were doing on the field.
Now is it, um? Now is the sequel to American Underdog?
Is it going to be the portion where um he
took Matt Leinart's job in Arizona? Or is it the
time when Eli Manning got benched and they put him
in with the giants? Like? Which? Which? Which one? Is
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that going to be? Can I offer a little perspective
on the whole, the whole? You know, I know your
bit is running running out right now, probably to continue
on with that bit, just serious conversation. Let me let
me offer this when a player makes it a point
to address it to that that specific detail of adding
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in there, I'm you know, I'm not here to be
his role model or his you know, his mentor or
anything like that. They're letting it be made known that
they do not wish to assist. And I think that
that's something that you have to ultimately, you have to
foul that away. If if you're the organization, if you're
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the coach, if you're the positions coach, you have to
foul all the information we're talking about it earlier, collecting
the data and all the things that are connected to
the speed and the performances and different things like that. Well,
you also got to pay attention to what your players
are saying and how they're feeling. And for him to
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say that he's letting you know that this is my
quarterback room, this is still my team until it's not
my team. So don't expect me to be that guy
that is going out of my way to make this
rookie feel comfortable and confident about eventually taking my job.
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And and so to me, when when you hear that
or when you when you see that statement come out
from a player, that that that is going to be
the relationship between the new, the new addition to to
the room, and and you still being there as as
the starter and as the leader. I think that you
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have to make sure that you guard your new asset
while while making sure that you guard your current asset.
If if that's what it is, and you feel as
though you can't get any further than what you have,
which it doesn't seemingly look as though, as you mentioned Q,
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that they can get that much further with Tannehill. And
that's probably why you know Malik willis Lands, I mean,
even though he as late as he did. That's that's
why they go after a Malik Willis you. You're not
You're not going to You're not going to aggressively, at
least by the looks of it here, you're not aggressively
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going away from from Ryan Tannehill. But you're also looking
at it as you're running out of time. So when
you see a statement like this, now you have to
be measuring and you have to be weighing what is
the development of Malik will Is going to be and
how do you prepare him to be as successful as
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you possibly can Knowing that you're not going to get
that that veteran guidance or assistance from from the person
that that is getting pretty much all the first hand
information as to how they're running their offense and how
they're running things on that side of the ball. You
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know me, you know, I'm just and now I don't
go ahead because I'm gonna take it in a different
direction probably, Okay, I was just say, I mean, the
reality is, the truth is it's not Ryan Tannehill's job.
He's not paid to you know, course is not. It's not.
So so what are he's saying is is true? It's
factual and and and all that I think we're you know,
just from being in that room and understanding when you're
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the starter, when you're the back, and all that you're
always competing. You should be always competing, and even though
you're paid like a guy that not isn't looking within
that room to compete with, right Ryan TANNEI was trying
to look at the Patrick Mahomes and the Josh Allen's
and the Justin Herbert's and the Joe Burrows and Lamar
Jackson's and everyone else who's in the a f C
that he's competing with to try to win that conference,
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and then go to a super Bowl. That's ultimately who
his competition is. But that being said, I mean, as
a quarterback, you're still competing every drill, every day with
the guys in that room. And it's kind of that
concept of his iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
And that's more of the philosophy that I think that
like I always tried to have with all of it.
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Like I always said to myself, if I'm in there
competing with a guy and he's just flat out better
than me, then he should play like that's just how
life is. Like I am comfortable and confident enough in
myself where if I can't beat this guy out, he's
better than me, Okay, go lead our team. Then go
be that guy, and I'll try to find an opportunity
somewhere else. And if I'm just not good enough, I'll
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figure out something else in my life where I can
be good enough. But there's there is an element to
when you're in there and you're competing where you should
want that guy to come out every single day and
push you. You shouldn't want that guy to come out
and make a throw that you're like, dang, Like Okay,
I gotta work on this, or I gotta try to
make my arms stronger. I gotta try to, you know,
work on my mobility, or work on some different arm angles,
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Like I need to work on some of that. I
need to work on my condition, I need to work
on my agility, maybe my moving into pocket, whatever it is,
Like you want to feel that challenge if you're Ryan Tannehill,
like this could create a spark for him. You know,
people talk about and try to correlate Jordan's love being
in Green Bay and two back to back seasons for
Aaron Rodgers. I mean, the reality is maybe that's a
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constant reminder to him every time he's in that quarterback
room of what the packers that did and then the
motivation behind it. You know, you could say it's it's not,
but when you've got a living, breathing person in that
room across us from you, yeah, it's gonna be a
reminder to you. So you can't help it but feel
a little bit more intense, a little bit more triggered
to one of say, I'm gonna go I'm proved to
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these guys within our own organization that I'm good enough
to be the guy. So he may not want to
mentor Malik Willis, but I'll put it this way, if
Malik Willis is going out there and challenging him every day,
you're gonna get the best out of Ryan Tanner, or
at least he's gonna be pushed to play and perform
at his best. I just the technicality bothers me. Just
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from this standpoint, it's not his job to mentor m
Absolutely not his job. We've heard other players say something
similar along the lines. But you know, it's also not
in mandatory for me to want to help an elderly
woman out of the store with their groceries. But I
want to do it, Like if I see it, I
want to do it. I want to be able to
offer up some sort of assistance, some sort of help,
Like you don't have to tip the weight at the
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at the restaurant. You don't have to, but you probably should.
I mean, it's it's it's the nice thing to do. Dude.
He's a young player in the league. If if you're
that good, you were given an opportunity to revitalize your
career in Tennessee, they they opened up to you and said, hey,
if you can beat out Marcus Mariota for the job.
The job is yours. The idea that he's not willing
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to play by these rules at this point in his career,
Like there's probably a little bit of an insecurity there,
and look there there's there was stories out of Miami
when that he made some comments to practice squad players
that that people in the media overheard in which uh
he was practice squad players were told, hey, you know, uh,
(25:34):
go easy because they were kind of talking some trash
because they were picking him off in practice. And one
of the quotes he gave to them was enjoy your
practice squad paycheck. So like he does have this to
him to where he gets a little bit insecure. I'm
just saying all the point is, and I get what
you're saying, because you're right and what you're saying, he
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made it a point to include that as a quote,
so he wanted it to be made. No, that that's
how he feels about it, and there's nothing wrong with
him feeling that way. Again, like like it was stated,
it's not his job to help, you know, prepare his
his eventual seemingly replacement. The idea of it is is
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that you're building a camaraderie. It's it's a room where
you you have, you know, rapport with one another, you network.
You know, this guy may turn into a Hall of Fame, Yeah,
he may. He may turn into a Hall of Fame
caliber quarterback. And you can say you had a small
part to do with the development or you were in
the room with him at one point time on indeed, indeed, indeed,
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and so so the idea of it for me is,
you know, Trent Green, I think took credit for Kurt Warner.
You know, so I think I think you shouldn't come
after Curt. I think he I think he took Trent's job.
In fact, yeah, he try and hurt his knee. And yeah,
by the way, you know Brady's poor name was Mark right?
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That that one actually is true. We talked about that
in length. He's not He's not lying. That's name that
would be it. Yeah, it was that and one other
one Jonas made up that I was like, okay, yeah,
that could work. It was Wesley Pipes. He could have
he could have left the I'm not gonna be that
guy to him out of his quote. You know, he
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could have left that out because at the end of
the day, it's an unstated deal where you can choose. Right,
you had the right to choose. Ask him, we offered it.
You know you could choose. And even if they did
ask him, you can choose. You know, that's that's your choice.
Is your choice. You want to you want to take
him under your wing, You want to bring him over
for dinner, you know, he becomes the godfather to your
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kids and stuff like that, or uncle uncle Malik. You know,
you can choose that or but but what you don't
have to do is make it now a public thing.
Now you've put a spotlight on it where that's something
that they're going to foul away and they're going to
pay attention to. Now. I'm just surprised that no one's
used the button so far in this whole kind What
do you mean? What do you mean? What I means
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caught up the button? So if he was if he
was just a young got that button mar Mark Boulger's way,
I don't know. If he were a yacht he looked
just like Tannehill. Yeah, I know, I mean the leak
it's Boulger. No, I you hit it, O man, I
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was lost. Someone's going to use the barn you know,
that's just yeah, I mean there's a couple of different
reasons quarterback. But what is that, Berta, What is that
Mike Marts? Mike Mart's talking about Mark Boulger. Mark Boulger
is our quarterback. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I mean
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that sounds like the adult version of it. Oh man,
I'll never forget when he told me you don't want
to come here when he was in Detroit. Yeah, but
like all my ways trapped. That was one of my
first introductions to like, oh that's how this goes. Was like,
all right, well hang out here for a little bit
and then hope is is Mark is? Mike Mart's a
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good guy. I've heard j Cutler talk about him. He's
super dumb. The Jay Cutler talked about him said, dude,
he's the best like he and and total sense of
humor and like if you overrule his calls, like Cutler
I think flipped him off at one time or did
something on the field, and Marx wasn't upset about it
at all. He's like, no, I get it, like whatever,
like it just I think it was the fact that
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they were running some seven step drop like when they
couldn't protect them. I don't even if there are seven
man protections at that point. I think it was in
lieu of that, like you want to get the ball
out quicker, well listen, I mean, you know, Olan Cruz
is the center. I don't know if you followed that
story recently, but apparently uh Ollen Creuz assaulted a co
worker earlier this week at a Chicago media company, and
(30:09):
then when the story broke on Twitter, Olan Cruz posted
the quote from Mike Tyson that said social media made
everybody a little bit too comfortable to run their mouth.
And uh so then we get to wait to see
how that plays out. Your favorite yeah, talked about it,
not even close them ol? Yeah? I mean so, I
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I mean, it wasn't like a Prince situation where I
would have dated Prince. Jeez, I would have dated them.
Maybe I would have. Maybe I'd have had regrets later,
but you know I would have had to just you know,
we had you want to you want to go out
with me, Prince, but you want to go out with
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me bar Yes? I mean, would you have taken less
money to go to the Vikings knowing that Prince was
a Vikings fan? Uh? I mean if if going to
his concerts and getting backstage passes was a part of
the deal. I mean I would have to entertain. I mean,
assuming you're dating, that would probably come with That would
be one of the perks. Well, I mean I didn't
know we were dating before that took place, but if
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we were dating, of course, of course I would go
to me. I want to be closer to the person
they're dating. Of all the things we've talked about in
the history of us working together, I've never thought LaVar
I was gonna say that that I love the curveballs.
I would love to tell everyone that I'm joking. But
you know, I looked at him, all right, and you
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know what the like there is something too that like
as I've been watching that we crashed serious whenever I
get a time about Adam Newman, the guy started we work,
and like it was like the same thing, like he
had trans he would get people to believe in him,
and the stories they tell on how eccentric he was,
but even just like the money he would spend and
how you're like you're looking at the balance sheets and
(32:02):
you're like, this isn't sustainable, this isn't gonna work. And
literally people kept investing in him because he was there
was something about his aura about him in the manifest thing.
Yeahs like Prince like like Prince Yeah, I mean with
his music and his dancing and his his high heeled boots.
You know how tall was he? Actually? Bro? He looked
(32:25):
like five six if that I mean he? I mean,
all right, google that. I don't know that you can
and I don't know that you could even get five
to there you go five to? He looked. Ain't gonna say.
You know, I've already incriminated myself and people are gonna
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love me more today because of my candidness. You know.
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Petros what's happening? So? Hello, Hello and good morning everybody.
Good morning to you, sir. How's it going? How are
you feeling out? You know? I'm okay. I guess I
was at the Dodger Uh. Well, I didn't go to
the game. I always leave, but I was there for
my show yesterday with Matt at Dodger Stadium and that
(34:15):
was fun and exciting. We talked to Justin Turner and
some picture that kept swearing on the air wore out
our drop button. So that happened, I mean I did that.
What else is going on? Did you see? Uh? Dave
Chappelle was attacked on stage and I woke up this
(34:36):
morning to see that he was attacked and then he
got jumped and the attacker had a fake weapon with
a bayonet attached. Uh yeah, and uh so that's assault
with a deadly weapon because of the knife, and Busta
Rhymes got some kicks in on him who was back there,
(34:57):
and Jamie Fox stomped him out to and uh yeah,
and even Chappelle, I think kind a few kicks in
until they until they escorted him away. And you just
don't see that anymore. He's pretty swall. I mean he
was in uh he was in a Finding Forrester. You're
on the Dog and did you ever see Finding Forrester?
(35:24):
I did. I don't remember that. Busta Rhymes was the brother.
He was the brother of the other guy, the basketball
good player guy, and and Sean Connery was a famous
writer and f Murray Abraham plays the evil Professor, and
Sean Connery says, I do remember that, so yeah. Finding.
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So it's just not often that you see, like not
since the Source Awards in the nineties that you see
just somebody gets stomped out by fifth Team twenty dudes
on stage. But last night there it was, and of course,
and then everybody started arguing on Twitter about it being
Will Smith's fault, and then everybody started saying, well, look
(36:13):
at all these other comedians that have been attacked long
before Will Smith ever slapped Chris Rock. And then somebody said,
this is really a slap in the face to the
trans community, literally because because Chappelle said, this is just
what they say on Twitter Lava. Chapelle said that joked
(36:35):
that it was a trans guy that attacked him because
that movie, the one of his arm took a transformation. Yeah,
you know, the old dislocated elbow, and uh, it makes
me think about my my own life and experience in
football watching people dislocate their elbows. And sometimes it's an
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injury where it's just really scary and after the soreness
goes away in a week and a half or so,
you can play again even though it looks like so bad.
But you can also dislocate your elbow much like your
knee and wreck everything while you're doing it on the
in and out, like I think Danny Ammondola did that
(37:17):
a few years ago and he missed the rest of
the season. But when you see a dislocated elbow, it
doesn't mean that guy's arm is ruined forever. Just remember
that kids. Was that the season he was dat Olivia
Colpo Because I'm telling you, between him and then Christian
McCaffrey has not been healthy since he started dating her. Well,
I heard that she has some crazy grips and moves
(37:39):
that she uses. Uh, you using your momentum against you
a lot like seagal. Uh. There are those girls though,
that ondly date the slot receiver types. You know, there's
like a there's like a girl out there. I forget
her name, but she's run through like seven of the
different slot receivers, like little white guys in the slot.
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Leave in the slot, Leave that alone? Uh what not?
Just saying all I know is they made that dude
look like a tarantula. He went from looking like a
human too, looking like, uh, like one of those dancers
in a racket, you know, an author pod or of
some sort and one of those what is that? What
is that the dancers where they break their contortionists that
(38:21):
they made him look like a contortionists. Yeah, they did.
And speaking of beating ass, Jordan addison UM's he's he's
beating ass or beaten cheeks out of Pittsburgh and seemingly
venturing out to the West Coast, these parts of town,
southern town, get back now now that now that USC
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has firmly established free agency in college football, what what's uh?
What's your opinion on on what's taking place? Lincoln Riley.
You don't even know. You don't even know. You guys
don't even know how awesome USC is. You don't even
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know how sweet it is over there right now. It's
not Happy Valley. It's Hollywood, collect the platforms and f tea.
It's not it's not South Bend. It's the land of
milk and honey, with manna falling from the heavens, homeless
people feeling punts and practice. Yes, that doesn't happen anymore,
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are we sure? Yeah? I mean that's the thing, guys.
All of this is supposed to erase the past. This
is the great reset. But in the history of college football,
and USC has it all. They have a leader who's
an offensive coach who I will say, actually is what
people say about Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian. He actually
(39:53):
really is a really, really solid and fabulous offensive football mind.
The I mean Brady played for one of those guys,
and he's a punchline. Now, Charlie Weiss, So it doesn't
always work like people think. I think USC is gonna
be really good. I really do. But you have to
(40:13):
field a team, and football teams have to know each
other and play together and be on the same page.
It's it's a lot like in some ways these weird
superstar teams. That's starting to make me think about with
the NBA and how those don't work necessarily. And the
thing about a place like USC, and it's very similar
(40:34):
to where you guys played, is everybody at USC is
a superstar. I don't care if you're playing for Paul
Hackett or Clay Helton. USC's recruiting never really fell off
that bad, except for one year under Clay Helton. There
was a small class too. Anyway, Yeah, and their problem
has been player development, clearly. Clearly, USC's problem has been
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player development, not actually recruiting guys who people think are
gonna be good football players. So you have to start
developing players if you're USC and have that beat your
main dear program from when they are freshmen too, when
they are ready to leave. And if your USC and
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you're doing what people think you're supposed to be doing,
they should be ready to leave in three years, So
that doesn't really jibe with the Addison stuff, right, He's
a player that somebody else developed. Uh Die, the running
back is a player that somebody else developed. And that's
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one thing that concerns me. I think for all of
these teams that are trying to build super teams is
you've got to develop these people through your program because
they have to be broken down. Like everybody comes to
Notre Dame, Penn State, USC, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, you know,
any of these schools. Everybody comes to those schools as
(41:59):
a super star from their hometown. They are a god
in their bubble, and it is a very humbling experience
when you get to college and you realize that these
are bigger, stronger, faster guys and you have to be
broken down and rebuilt up in the image of that
football team. Now, a lot of football teams have good
culture and they could absorb transfers, and we've sort of
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seen this flourish in the last few years. But for
every story that works out, there's four or five that don't.
And I just think that, yeah, right, I mean, this
is what his this is his fifth transfer or something
like that. Seriously, you know, I mean so so for
these kind of things. I I, uh, I always try
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to temper people's enthusiasm. Now, and it's fun for Colin
Calhern to put on his outfit and lead the parade.
He could stand up, he was so excited. I know
he sits down for most of his show. But some
would say when he talks about us, he he just
looks like one big donkey d But some I don't
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say that. But uh, I would never did I ask
you this, Petros? But you know what I'm saying. You
guys understand what I'm saying. Just bringing in a bunch
of guys who somebody else has developed and saying yeah,
rolling the ball out and saying, hey, go run go
run a y stick. Uh well, let's see how that
works out. Hey, Petros, do you view college football and
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having a problem, whether it's in I L transfer port
or anything right now? And and and if so, like,
is is there a fix in your mind with any
of this? I mean, I think without the transfer portal
part of that question, I think you could have been
asking me that question in the fifties. You know, don't
you that's having a problem. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
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always had a problem. I mean, there's always something to
bitch about, complain about, and argue about when it comes
to college football, and whatever generation is arguing, it's always catastrophic.
I mean, it's always a catastrophe. It's going to end
because of blank, you know, because of the coaches moving,
(44:08):
because of the disparity in UH stipend checks between Kansas
State and the University of Southern California or city schools.
It's gonna end because of the BCS. It's gonna end
because we don't have a BCS. It's gonna end because
of the playoff. It's gonna end because the transfer portal,
because of the n i L, because of Pro Football,
(44:30):
because the USFL. I mean, there's always something threatening college football.
The games are too long, you know, it's always in peril,
and that is part of the appeal. UH. There's always
something to argue about and to be passionate about. And
so I think that it does sort of correct itself
(44:53):
in a very haphazard way, I guess, or clumsy way.
It always swings act and corrects itself and finds a
way to move. But I think the n i L
and the transfer portal and all of the things. The
seismic moving with the conference shifting, that was another one.
You know, college football is over as we know it
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because the conferences are moving, and I remember the Southwest Conference.
You know a lot of people do. So there's always
been I mean, the only constant in college football has
been massive change. And I think what this is moving
us toward is whatever college football looks like without the
(45:36):
n C double as governance, because I think it's grown
way beyond that. There's billions of dollars involved everywhere. Now, Uh,
the live TV revenue is just it's just too much
and too popular and too many brands to go under
that very very antiquated umbrella. So I I do think,
(45:59):
you know, college a ball is moving towards like they
have with the College Football Playoff, which I don't necessarily
like because of the ESPN involvement in control. But you're
gonna be going for outside entities. You know, the trophy
to win college football is not an n C double
a trophy, and that might be the case, you know,
(46:19):
with a lot of these conferences and and how things change,
that's probably where we're moving. But I don't think we're
in peril as long as there's something to argue about.
We'll have it. Get him on Twitter at the Old
p Petro's Papa Egg is co host of The Petros
and Money Show on A and five seventy l, a
sports Fox college football analyst and our good buddy every
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single Wednesday morning, Petros. We appreciate a man. Uh, we'll
do it again next week. Sorry, philosophical like a pac
van there at the end. That's all right, we got
our shots. Yeah, come on, Petros, do your side, my side, nerds, cools. Man,
it's bs. It's hard enough just to be yourself, you know.
(47:04):
Was the Sean Connery quote again? Yeah you're oh, oh sorry.
Do you ever just look in the mirror and talk
like Sean Connery or try? It's it's very gratifying. You
can pull it off. Well, you know some of us can,
as we age, we all can, no dog, I mean, like,
(47:32):
what does Mike Bone think of that impression? You don't
even got Oh man, he will do it again next week? Man, alright, first,
just real, yeah it is he's the best. Congrats on
your receiver from my hometown is a bidding ward out though,
(47:55):
hey little hands pick it left. You know he this guy,
he probably seeks the other quarterbacks. Suck man SLOs is
the other quarterbacks. Yeah, he's all wrapped up with a
soccer girlfriend out there. That's right, that's right. I like
loving football. I love loving football. I love young love
between Slova's and the soccer player. It's beautiful, man, so good.
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Right now, they're waking up in Pittsburgh looking at each
other and they're just kicking it, just having a great dat.
Any brothers, you get it. They're just a big post
for a Willie stargel over there, Big Willie Willie Man.
Get him on Twitter at the old Pa. There he is,
Petros Papa kis every single Wednesday. Just a treat here
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